[newbie-it] pop3
Ciao a tutti, ho ancora bisogno del vostro aiuto: sul mio serverino di casa ho provato a configurare postfix seguendo gli howto che ci sono allegati alla distro e in rete e sono riuscito a far funzionare l'smtp e a mandare messaggi di posta, tramite i client win2000 collegati, con gli indirizzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nome.cognome sono alias di utenti presenti nella linuxbox) e fin qui tutto ok! Quello che nn riesco a capire e' come si fa a configurare il server pop che, se cerco di mandare un mesg all'indirizzo di cui sopra, mi risponde che l'utente nome.cognome nn e' presente (anche [EMAIL PROTECTED] risponde utente nn presente) e se invece cerco di scaricare la posta invece di dirmi che nn ci sono nuovi messaggi mi disconnette... tutto cio' sia dai clients che da dentro la linuxbox. :) Dove posso trovare informazioni utili? Quali howto devo cercare?
Re: [newbie-it] pop3
Paolo Tomiato wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho ancora bisogno del vostro aiuto: sul mio serverino di casa ho provato a configurare postfix seguendo gli howto che ci sono allegati alla distro e in rete e sono riuscito a far funzionare l'smtp e a mandare messaggi di posta, tramite i client win2000 collegati, con gli indirizzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nome.cognome sono alias di utenti presenti nella linuxbox) e fin qui tutto ok! Quello che nn riesco a capire e' come si fa a configurare il server pop che, se cerco di mandare un mesg all'indirizzo di cui sopra, mi risponde che l'utente nome.cognome nn e' presente (anche [EMAIL PROTECTED] risponde utente nn presente) e se invece cerco di scaricare la posta invece di dirmi che nn ci sono nuovi messaggi mi disconnette... tutto cio' sia dai clients che da dentro la linuxbox. :) Dove posso trovare informazioni utili? Quali howto devo cercare? in rmpmdrake controlla se hai installato imap ? nn sono sicurissimo ( parole chiave su file : pop imap ) e lo installi poi con webmin vai su networking / extended internet services /ed attivi il pop3.. ogni user della rete avrà la sua casella pop . cia francesco
[newbie-it] compilare il kernel
Ave lista, tra una fetta di panettone e un boccone di peperonata ho intenzione di compilare un nuovo kernel per i miei pinguini, in modo che per l'anno nuovo si trovino meglio e facciano quello che vogliano. Considerando che non ho mai neanche tentato di far partire un make xconfig, le mie perplessita sono diverse. Che tipo di kernel fare ? che vantaggi/svantaggi ci sono tra i due tipi? Nel caso lo creassi modulare che moduli ci devo mettere? ho paura di non comprendere moduli che per me non significano nulla ,ma che per la macchina sono indispensabili..si puo correre un rischio di questo genere? Per creare un Kernel che abbia dei sinceri vantaggi si deve conoscere molto bene il proprio hardware o non è necessario? Non ho alcuna necessita di un kernel nuovo,lo faccio solo per sport :) quello che vorrei (e dico vorrei xke non ho idea se sia possibile!) è compilare un kernel per aumentare le prestazioni delle aplicazioni , inserirgli la scheda audio che una isapci , e fargli fare da firewall...quindi escludere i moduli per me inutili.ma la cosa che vi stupira è che non so quali siano :)) Il pc lo uso principalmente per la musica , poi per la posta , per navigare nel web , alcune volte per chattare con IRC,raramente per manipolazioni JPG. Che mi consigliate di fare? Sto gia studiando i vari howto-kernel (rigorosamente in italiano) sparsi per il web. Ciao , Tom
[newbie-it] Screensaver
Qualcuno sa dirmi come faccio ad istallare qualche screensaver in Mdk9.0 che non sia uno dei tre che mi ha fornito l'istallazione di base? Magari c'è qualche pacchetto nella cartella contrib? Grazie, Tommaso
Re: [newbie-it] Screensaver
Alle 16:08, venerdì 27 dicembre 2002, Tommaso ha scritto: Qualcuno sa dirmi come faccio ad istallare qualche screensaver in Mdk9.0 che non sia uno dei tre che mi ha fornito l'istallazione di base? Magari c'è qualche pacchetto nella cartella contrib? Grazie, Tommaso Ciao Tommaso, devi installare un pacchetto aggiuntivo: mi pare si chiami kde-artworks, o qualcosa del genere... cerca kde nel Software Installer, e troverai da solo il pacchetto giusto. Aggiunge gli screensaver, qualche sfondo ed una manciata di icone. Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie-it] compilare il kernel
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, tom wrote: Che tipo di kernel fare ? che vantaggi/svantaggi ci sono tra i due tipi? Intanto bisogna senz'altro escludere i due estremi (esclusivamente monolitico e esclusivamente modulare), perche' in un caso carica moduli di dispositivi inesistenti (confondendo il sistema o creando potenzialmente degli scompensi) e nell'altro non carica all'avvio moduli indispensabili (bloccandosi magari all'inizio). Come sempre la soluzione migliore IMHO e' quella di mezzo :) Di solito, per tradizione, si sceglie un modello modulare, perche' permette di conservare memoria RAM, non caricando o rimuovendo i moduli che non sono (piu') necessari. Pero' ribadisco quanto gia' detto in altra sede: se un certo numero di moduli viene caricato sempre e resta in memoria per la maggior parte del tempo, per questi il modello modulare non offre praticamente alcun vantaggio e tanto vale metterli come incorporati. Mettendo come incorporato un modulo che ti serverebbe lasciare come modulo ha lo svantaggio di non permetterti di rimuoverlo quando non fosse piu' necessario (perche' essendo, appunto, incorporato, verrebbe ovviamente sempre caricato all'avvio) In aggiunta un modulo che deve essere caricato subito, perche' indispensabile all'avvio (es. quello del filesystem di root), e' meglio IMHO che sia incorporato. D'altro canto i moduli che non servono al tuo sistema possono essere eliminati (= non compilati), risparmiando spazio su disco. Inoltre bisogna tener presente che non tutte le voci corrispondono ad un modulo, alcune influenzano le voci circostanti (inibendole o abilitandole), altri inseriscono delle impostazioni che non si riverberano su un particolare modulo. Per creare un Kernel che abbia dei sinceri vantaggi si deve conoscere molto bene il proprio hardware o non è necessario? Be' senz'altro e' utile; il kernel di serie nelle distribuzioni correnti e' concepito per essere utilizzato in ambienti operativi piuttosto eterogenei (ed infatti nella maggior parte dei casi non e' necessario ricompilare alcunche' per usufruirne) e quindi non puo' giocoforza essere ottimizzato per un particolare sistema. Cmq gia' guardando (con lsmod) i moduli caricati e utilizzati puoi avere un'idea, cosi' come saprai certamente gia' se hai bisogno del supporto di PCMCIA (per notebook), di schede isdn interne, di periferiche scsi emulate o naturali, che CPU hai, ecc.. Purtroppo diverse voci non sono adeguatamente documentate (o non lo sono affatto), pero' gia' la documentazione presente in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ puo' essere utile. Non ho alcuna necessita di un kernel nuovo,lo faccio solo per sport :) quello che vorrei (e dico vorrei xke non ho idea se sia possibile!) è compilare un kernel per aumentare le prestazioni delle aplicazioni , Sul fronte delle prestazioni, gia' qualcosa si puo' ottenere p.es. mettendo nella voce apposita la CPU utilizzata (al posto di quella predefinita); e' anche vero che AFAIK se le applicazioni sono compilate per i386, ottimizzare solo il kernel e non queste applicazioni offre vantaggi limitati .. inserirgli la scheda audio che una isapci l'audio invece credo che sia meglio lasciarlo come modulare, anche in previsione dell'eventuale utilizzo di driver alternativi (ALSA) a quelli del kernel (OSS) e fargli fare da firewall... anche qui direi che puoi lasciarli come moduli quindi escludere i moduli per me inutili.ma la cosa che vi stupira è che non so quali siano :)) In fondo credo che bastino due accorgimenti e, anche se per ipotesi dovessi sbagliare qualcosa, gli effetti non dovrebbero essere poi cosi' dirompenti: 1) modificare il numero di versione, attribuendo a EXTRAVERSION quello che (ti pare nel file /usr/src/_versione_/Makefile): cio' evita che i moduli in /lib/modules/_versione_/ siano sovrascritti arbitrariamente con qualcosa che non e' perfettamente funzionante. 2) creare un voce apposita nel file /etc/lilo.conf per identificare quel kernel compilato di prova e poter sempre riavviare con quello funzionante, nel caso in cui le cose non dovessero andare come previsto. Se una volta riavviato non parte o ha un comportamento bizzarro, non fai altro che riavviare con il kernel precedente e tutto si sistema. Una volta fatto questo non ti resta che riprovare .. a te la palla ;) P.S. visto che sei avanti di un giorno, tra qualche ora potresti dirmi com'e' andato a finire il SuperEnalotto, che almeno metto i numeri giusti? ;) :PP -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** k 2.4.20-acpi+preempt+lowlat+pktwrt LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583 Spammer Burning: le radici dell'odio
[newbie-it] floppy e cdrom
scusate, conosco proprio poco del caro linux... ho mandrake 9.0 durante la fase di boot cerca di montare il floppy ed il cdrom ... poi segnala il tentativo come fallito ... non ho problemi una volta che accedo all'interfaccia ... il floppy lo riconosce ed anche i cdrom ... perché cerca il mount all'avvio? cosa dovrei controllare per escluedere ciò? grazie Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] floppy e cdrom
Alle 17:37, venerdì 27 dicembre 2002, andrea ha scritto: scusate, conosco proprio poco del caro linux... ho mandrake 9.0 durante la fase di boot cerca di montare il floppy ed il cdrom ... poi segnala il tentativo come fallito ... non ho problemi una volta che accedo all'interfaccia ... il floppy lo riconosce ed anche i cdrom ... perché cerca il mount all'avvio? cosa dovrei controllare per escluedere ciò? grazie Andrea Devi inserire noauto tra le opzioni nelle righe di CDROM e floppy del file /etc/fstab... per fare una cosa più semplice, credo tu possa eseguire queste modifiche anche tramite il Mandrake Control Center. Ciao... Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
[Fwd: Re: [newbie-it] supermount ...]
Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie-it] supermount ... Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:10:19 +0100 From: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fabio wrote: posso chiedervi perchè odiate così tanto il supermount? io mi ci trovo una favola... francesco Perchè anche nelle versioni precedenti il supermount ha data parecchie rogne. Sarebbe o il caso di inserirlo quando 'maturo' (stabile e senza bizze) oppure sopprimerlo, visto che il mount funziona benissimo. Bye. si ma esattamente che problemi vi da? grazie francesco
Re: [newbie-it] compilazione del kernel
Luken Shiro ha scritto: Hai ragione... è che l'output è chilometrico, impensabile leggerlo tutto. Può aver senso leggerne dei pezzetti? Ehm, direi di no, ma piu' o meno qualche riga prima dell'errore si' Ho seguito tutte le tue altre indicazioni, molto precise; rimane l'errore in fase di compilazione dei moduli; trascrivo una parte dell'uscita di make modules, da dove cominciano le segnalazioni di errore, che poi proseguono (sic!) per decine di righe: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/prefetch.h:13, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/list.h:6, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:12, from logibusmouse.c:39: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:51: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:51: field `loops_per_jiffy_R_ver_str' declared as a function /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: parse error before `0657d037' Mi è venuto un leggero sospetto... come faccio ad essere sicuro che ci siano tutti i sorgenti necessari? Ciao e grazie Giorgio
Re: [newbie-it] compilazione del kernel
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Giorgio Griffon wrote: rimane l'errore in fase di compilazione dei moduli; trascrivo una parte dell'uscita di make modules, da dove cominciano le segnalazioni di errore, che poi proseguono (sic!) per decine di righe: Urgh, probabilmente si tratta di qualche modulo che hai abilitato e che, nel tuo caso non e' adatto all'hardware presente, per esempio il mouse usb logitech (o almeno suppongo che sia quello ;)) Mi è venuto un leggero sospetto... come faccio ad essere sicuro che ci siano tutti i sorgenti necessari? I due pacchetti che servono sono kernel-source e kernel-headers; se li hai installati entrambi, il problema non e' li'. -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** k 2.4.20-acpi+preempt+lowlat+pktwrt LU #210970 LM #98222 SU #12583 Spammer Burning: le radici dell'odio
Re: [newbie-it] compilare il kernel
Alle 16:24, venerdì 27 dicembre 2002, LukenShiro ha scritto: On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, tom wrote: [cut] P.S. visto che sei avanti di un giorno, tra qualche ora potresti dirmi com'e' andato a finire il SuperEnalotto, che almeno metto i numeri giusti? 8 - 12 - 64 - 68 - 77 - 81 --- 15 ok? facciamo a meta dopo? il n di conto a cui inviare l'asegno è: uygd78682dsbl8 grazie..non mi ero accorto della cosaqui nella slack ho un data(ora giusta) e nella MDK un altra(ora forse sbagliata) p.s. grazie della risposta..sta notte tento di far inchiodare tutto!
Re: [newbie-it] pop3
Io ho fatto tutto quello che mi hai detto ed ora il demone ipop3 e' attivo ma nn e' cambiato niente e ottengo sempre questo msg: Il server ha interrotto la connessione in modo inatteso. Ciò potrebbe essere dovuto a problemi relativi al server o alla rete oppure a un lungo periodo di inattività. Account: 'Pinco', Server: 'pop3.miodominio.com', Protocollo: POP3, Porta: 110, Protezione (SSL): No, Numero di errore: 0x800CCC0F in /var/spool/mail nn ci sono directory riferite ai vari user. cosa faccio? - Original Message - From: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] pop3 Paolo Tomiato wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho ancora bisogno del vostro aiuto: sul mio serverino di casa ho provato a configurare postfix seguendo gli howto che ci sono allegati alla distro e in rete e sono riuscito a far funzionare l'smtp e a mandare messaggi di posta, tramite i client win2000 collegati, con gli indirizzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nome.cognome sono alias di utenti presenti nella linuxbox) e fin qui tutto ok! Quello che nn riesco a capire e' come si fa a configurare il server pop che, se cerco di mandare un mesg all'indirizzo di cui sopra, mi risponde che l'utente nome.cognome nn e' presente (anche [EMAIL PROTECTED] risponde utente nn presente) e se invece cerco di scaricare la posta invece di dirmi che nn ci sono nuovi messaggi mi disconnette... tutto cio' sia dai clients che da dentro la linuxbox. :) Dove posso trovare informazioni utili? Quali howto devo cercare? in rmpmdrake controlla se hai installato imap ? nn sono sicurissimo ( parole chiave su file : pop imap ) e lo installi poi con webmin vai su networking / extended internet services /ed attivi il pop3.. ogni user della rete avrà la sua casella pop . cia francesco
[newbie-it] CD 8cm
Leggendo all'interno della confezione di un cd Magnx 8 cm, si viene avvertiti che alcuni masterizzatori non sono in grado di bruciare tali supporti, anche se il cassettino li alloggia... a parte che potevano scriverlo sulla parte esterna della connfezione :-), presumo sia proprio questo il caso del mio Philips PCRW804; qualcuno può confermare o smentire? E comunque: qualche consiglio su un masterizzatore recente che sicuramente non dia problemi sotto Linux e supporti i cd 8cm? Grazie. Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] pop3
Paolo Tomiato wrote: Io ho fatto tutto quello che mi hai detto ed ora il demone ipop3 e' attivo ma nn e' cambiato niente e ottengo sempre questo msg: Il server ha interrotto la connessione in modo inatteso. Ciò potrebbe essere dovuto a problemi relativi al server o alla rete oppure a un lungo periodo di inattività. Account: 'Pinco', Server: 'pop3.miodominio.com', Protocollo: POP3, Porta: 110, Protezione (SSL): No, Numero di errore: 0x800CCC0F in /var/spool/mail nn ci sono directory riferite ai vari user. cosa faccio? - Original Message - From: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] pop3 Paolo Tomiato wrote: Ciao a tutti, ho ancora bisogno del vostro aiuto: sul mio serverino di casa ho provato a configurare postfix seguendo gli howto che ci sono allegati alla distro e in rete e sono riuscito a far funzionare l'smtp e a mandare messaggi di posta, tramite i client win2000 collegati, con gli indirizzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nome.cognome sono alias di utenti presenti nella linuxbox) e fin qui tutto ok! Quello che nn riesco a capire e' come si fa a configurare il server pop che, se cerco di mandare un mesg all'indirizzo di cui sopra, mi risponde che l'utente nome.cognome nn e' presente (anche [EMAIL PROTECTED] risponde utente nn presente) e se invece cerco di scaricare la posta invece di dirmi che nn ci sono nuovi messaggi mi disconnette... tutto cio' sia dai clients che da dentro la linuxbox. :) Dove posso trovare informazioni utili? Quali howto devo cercare? in rmpmdrake controlla se hai installato imap ? nn sono sicurissimo ( parole chiave su file : pop imap ) e lo installi poi con webmin vai su networking / extended internet services /ed attivi il pop3.. ogni user della rete avrà la sua casella pop . cia francesco scusa ma io mi sono basato sul fatto che smtp funzionava per cui davo per settato postfix o sendmail le email che mandi dove vanno? francesco
Re: [newbie-it] Screensaver
On Friday 27 December 2002 4:08 pm, Tommaso wrote about [newbie-it] Screensaver: Qualcuno sa dirmi come faccio ad istallare qualche screensaver in Mdk9.0 che non sia uno dei tre che mi ha fornito l'istallazione di base? Magari c'è qualche pacchetto nella cartella contrib? Grazie, io uso il keuphoria, che e' davvero magnifico (anche il ksetisaver in relata'). Lo trovi insieme ad altri a www.kde-look.org (kde) bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://web.genie.it/utenti/f/freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
[newbie] before I quit
Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months. I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve. I am writing one last time before I install RedHat. I have three cdroms on my computer one is a dvd ide drive hitachi the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one. The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get errors (which I don't remember) the drives are not mountable etc. here is my fstab, /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 --- The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP. Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter. - If anyone can help me it would be most appreciated. I have down loaded redhat 8 and thought I would give mandrake one more chance before I install it (I like the interface etc of the distribution) -- Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] before I quit
I have run Mandrake since 8.2. I also run Cooker. I can't answer your questions but I can assure you that RedHat will not solve your problems (in and of itself). RH8 has been so dumbed down (according to all reports) that it is all but unusable to power users. There are other reasons to stick with ML that I won't go into as well. Remember, ALL distro's fail in some respects...it's the nature of the fast maturing pace of OSS in general. I suggest you fire up a copy of Knoppix and if all works then start copying out some config files (I had to do this on a laptop of mine). Knoppix uses Kudzu (similar to RH's version but with Klauses mods.), so this is a way to test without going whole hog. I suggest sticking with ML, we may not be able to help right now but someone on the list, in a local LUG or a local Linux geek should be able to help you. Yes, OSS is sometimes a challenge...but one with very significant rewards for perseverence. My .0002c worth, Jason Greenwood Aaron wrote: Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months. I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve. I am writing one last time before I install RedHat. I have three cdroms on my computer one is a dvd ide drive hitachi the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one. The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get errors (which I don't remember) the drives are not mountable etc. here is my fstab, /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 --- The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP. Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter. - If anyone can help me it would be most appreciated. I have down loaded redhat 8 and thought I would give mandrake one more chance before I install it (I like the interface etc of the distribution) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO
On Thursday 26 Dec 2002 9:51 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: No, I have never heard of iscan, does it come from the epsom website ? John Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: Did you try iscan from epson? It uses all the scanner capabilities, lot better for most epson scanners than xsane El Jueves, 26 de Diciembre de 2002 13:46, John Richard Smith escribió: Santa was very generaous. An EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO I never found anything in linux work initially so easy. I just plugged it in the usb2 port powered it up went to MCC - hardwarte scanner- leftmouse clicked , it asked for cd1 , I gave it it, it said thank you, I smiled inwardly, It even gave me a kstartmenu entry, and away it went. So far I've had a go at grey scale and colour in normal scan docment mode(as against photo/transparency) and it worked. I have yet to make the fine adjustments but all looks very encouraging. I also notice the Steppa motor is 24v, as against most of the cheapie scanners being 12v I hope that makes for greater reliability. I'm always cautious to praise too loudly, somehow it seems like tempting fate, but all the thanks goes to those sane project people for their sterling efforts, and, I for one, am profoundly greatful. I just thought I would share this with you.It is always heartening when something works withou a lot of fuss and bother in linux. John John - iscan was necessary to run my Perfection 1650 under 8.2 - from Epson's website - but I think I'm right to say that iscan is the driver included on the 9.0 distro, so you don't need to do anything more. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first message
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:59 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: Hello ! Needless to say, I am new to Mandake Linux and have just installed it (LM 9). I am trying to set things up so I can have everything working fine. I'd like to ask you how I can get the shockwave plugin to work in Mozilla. Mozilla.org's website have links and instructions for all the main plugins. I have also tried to play .kar files in Kmid but no sound comes out. My sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. SBLive is well supported, and runs with the emu10k1 driver. You will probably find, however, that Mandrake Control Centre's (MCC's) Hardware List will say that it has no information about your soundcard. Don't worry about that, it doesn't stop it working fine. What have you tried, apart from Kmix? Have you tried playing an .mp3 file, or a cd? Are you getting system sounds? Any info you can give us will help us to point to the next step Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX
How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing a Conceptronic 56K Modem on Linux Mandrake 9.0
Hi, I have recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on my Athlon XP Based system but I am having problems installing my Hardware Conceptronic 56K Modem (which I have have verified that should work with Linux). Formerly I had a software modem (at the time of installing mandrake 9.0). When I went through the FAQs I came across a utility called setserial which I also discovered was not installed with Mandrake when I first installed it. Is there a way to get Mandrake 9.0 to recognise the presence of my modem so that I can get to surfing the net with Mandrake? I am a total newbie to these kind of problems so I would appreciate any information that might facilitate the installation process. Best Regards, Colin McElhatton AIMIS email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] before I quit
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 11:46 am, Aaron wrote: Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months. I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve. I am writing one last time before I install RedHat. I have three cdroms on my computer one is a dvd ide drive hitachi the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one. Do you mean that you can't even read from the others? My Hitachi dvd drive is the one I installed from, therefore the one that all updates are taken from. This may be the case with you, but you should be able to read from the others. The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get errors (which I don't remember) the drives are not mountable etc. Which method do you use to try to mount them? What happens? here is my fstab, /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto If this one is the burner, it needs the ro changing to rw codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 This is my equivalent line: none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 Of course, supermount doesn't work in every setup, so using auto instead should work fine. Keep it simple, at least until you have a working system, then make changes one at a time. /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 --- The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP. Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter. The driver installed by default isn't always the best one. Go to Mandrake Control Centre, remove the printer, then re-install it. Take care to use the Advanced (or is it Expert?) button, which lists the models in detail. This should ensure that you get the best driver. It's very difficult to change the driver on an existing printer setup. Much easier and quicker to start again. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first message
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:30:10 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] first message On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:59 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: Hello ! Needless to say, I am new to Mandake Linux and have just installed it (LM 9). I am trying to set things up so I can have everything working fine. I'd like to ask you how I can get the shockwave plugin to work in Mozilla. Mozilla.org's website have links and instructions for all the main plugins. I have also tried to play .kar files in Kmid but no sound comes out. My sound card is a Sound Blaster Live. SBLive is well supported, and runs with the emu10k1 driver. You will probably find, however, that Mandrake Control Centre's (MCC's) Hardware List will say that it has no information about your soundcard. Don't worry about that, it doesn't stop it working fine. What have you tried, apart from Kmix? Have you tried playing an .mp3 file, or a cd? Are you getting system sounds? Any info you can give us will help us to point to the next step Anne *** Just curious, is your computer a Dell Dimension? The SBLive 5.1 that Dell installs in the Dim is not standard, and is an apparent no-go w/linux. This link has info (scroll to bottom): ftp://opensource.creative.com/pub/doc/live_faq.html Some Dell owners are trying to get replacement cards from Dell. If your comp isn't a Dell Dim, disregard. All the best to you. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing a Conceptronic 56K Modem on Linux Mandrake9.0
Hi Colin, Hardware modem detection in ML is patchy at best. You need to run Linuxconf. Look in the application menu under: ConfigurationOtherLinuxConf Once up and running, click on: PeripheralsModemand then click on the detect button in the dialog box. Unless you have some weird modem, it should easily be detected and then save the changes when LinuxConf asks you to. Then run KPPP in the start menu at: NetworkingRemote AccessKPPP When KPPP starts, click setupmodem and then query your modem to make sure it is set up properly. Set up your dialup properties in KPPP and then hit connect and you should be good as gold. Regards, Jason Greenwood Colin McElhatton wrote: Hi, I have recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on my Athlon XP Based system but I am having problems installing my Hardware Conceptronic 56K Modem (which I have have verified that should work with Linux). Formerly I had a software modem (at the time of installing mandrake 9.0). When I went through the FAQs I came across a utility called setserial which I also discovered was not installed with Mandrake when I first installed it. Is there a way to get Mandrake 9.0 to recognise the presence of my modem so that I can get to surfing the net with Mandrake? I am a total newbie to these kind of problems so I would appreciate any information that might facilitate the installation process. Best Regards, Colin McElhatton AIMIS email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] before I quit
I suggest you disable supermount alltogether then use Kwikdisk to mount the drives one at a time to test them KMenuConfigurationHardwareKwikdisk Just a thought Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 11:46 am, Aaron wrote: Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months. I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve. I am writing one last time before I install RedHat. I have three cdroms on my computer one is a dvd ide drive hitachi the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one. Do you mean that you can't even read from the others? My Hitachi dvd drive is the one I installed from, therefore the one that all updates are taken from. This may be the case with you, but you should be able to read from the others. The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get errors (which I don't remember) the drives are not mountable etc. Which method do you use to try to mount them? What happens? here is my fstab, /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto If this one is the burner, it needs the ro changing to rw codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 This is my equivalent line: none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 Of course, supermount doesn't work in every setup, so using auto instead should work fine. Keep it simple, at least until you have a working system, then make changes one at a time. /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 --- The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP. Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter. The driver installed by default isn't always the best one. Go to Mandrake Control Centre, remove the printer, then re-install it. Take care to use the Advanced (or is it Expert?) button, which lists the models in detail. This should ensure that you get the best driver. It's very difficult to change the driver on an existing printer setup. Much easier and quicker to start again. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting
Steve Spears wrote: Grettings: Was wondering if anyone had a good site that explains dual booting Mandrake 9.0 and 8.2. I have 9.0 installed and want to dual boot 8.2 that is on a different drive. Basics: 9.0 on one drive, want to add another drive to same machine and load 8.2 on the new drive. Any links or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve There is nothing particularly mysterious about dual linux booting. There are two ways, but the simplist way is to create a /boot partition, then drakX the mandrake installer knows what to do all by itself. Care has to be taken that when you come to install lilo in the second install that the stanzas are correct for each OS partition .This is accomplished by selecting the appropriate entry from the drop down menu for each aspect of the lilo stanza.Take your time here and get the choices right.Basically the lilo installer is reading what it can find in the abovementioned /boot partition, and these will include kernels, initrd.image files. As far as layout of your linux partitions is concerned it does not matter which drive you install them on. Swap partitions are best sited near the middle of whichever drive you choose, though not essential. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 26 Dec 2002 9:51 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: No, I have never heard of iscan, does it come from the epsom website ? John Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: Did you try iscan from epson? It uses all the scanner capabilities, lot better for most epson scanners than xsane El Jueves, 26 de Diciembre de 2002 13:46, John Richard Smith escribió: Santa was very generaous. An EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO I never found anything in linux work initially so easy. I just plugged it in the usb2 port powered it up went to MCC - hardwarte scanner- leftmouse clicked , it asked for cd1 , I gave it it, it said thank you, I smiled inwardly, It even gave me a kstartmenu entry, and away it went. So far I've had a go at grey scale and colour in normal scan docment mode(as against photo/transparency) and it worked. I have yet to make the fine adjustments but all looks very encouraging. I also notice the Steppa motor is 24v, as against most of the cheapie scanners being 12v I hope that makes for greater reliability. I'm always cautious to praise too loudly, somehow it seems like tempting fate, but all the thanks goes to those sane project people for their sterling efforts, and, I for one, am profoundly greatful. I just thought I would share this with you.It is always heartening when something works withou a lot of fuss and bother in linux. John John - iscan was necessary to run my Perfection 1650 under 8.2 - from Epson's website - but I think I'm right to say that iscan is the driver included on the 9.0 distro, so you don't need to do anything more. Anne That explains it, I thought the sane windows had changed a bit since I last installed scanner software. -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sorry to the list.....
for the large email with attachments...I didn't even check to see how big the bloody flash plugin was. =( Was trying to make it easy for the user to get the plugins...anyway, they are at: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/alternates/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] before I quit
Hi , have you tried to run the cd drives in other boxes to insure they work? also have you changed the IDE cable first? I ask because I went through a similar situation. it turned out to be the slave connection on a UDMA cable. the master was fine but the slave was bad though it was a new cable. after several hours of fighting it, I changed the cable and I put in a cd drive I thought was dead, but now works fine. it was the cable. this was a hard one to figure out because the drives would show up in the bios, but would not work in the os. also I have had other cd drives that were not perfect that Linux ( RH or MDK whatever ) would not play with because they were not perfect. I am loyal to MDK , primarily because it's Linux, and I like the interface, your flavor may vary ;-) Mike Aaron wrote: Hi I have been running mandrake 9.0 for the last few months. I have a number of hardware issues which I can't seem to resolve. I am writing one last time before I install RedHat. I have three cdroms on my computer one is a dvd ide drive hitachi the second is and ide plextor burner 40/12/40a and the third is a true scsi plextor 40max The only one I can use as a cd drive is the dvd one. The writer worked from eroster and webadmin until last week when I get errors (which I don't remember) the drives are not mountable etc. here is my fstab, /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom2 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom3 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /snd ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 --- The second problem is my printer I have a usb deskjet 3420 of HP. Mandrake finds it and installs all the necessary drivers etc. but it doesnt print a test page or any other page for that matter. - If anyone can help me it would be most appreciated. I have down loaded redhat 8 and thought I would give mandrake one more chance before I install it (I like the interface etc of the distribution) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA ° Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955 ° If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO
Anne Wilson wrote: John - iscan was necessary to run my Perfection 1650 under 8.2 - from Epson's website - but I think I'm right to say that iscan is the driver included on the 9.0 distro, so you don't need to do anything more. Anne That explains it, I thought the sane windows had changed a bit since I last installed scanner software. LATER, I think not , it looks quite different now I've got it on, and the layout is different. It works quite well. Nice to know there is a second choice. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] system monitoring advice needed
Hi, The other day my computer began not loading some programs (OpenOffice 1.0.1), looking for non-existing CD/DVDs in my drive, and acting sluggish. After a while, my system froze. I could not open a console any more, I could not even kill X. I had to reboot. After going over the logs for over 30 min. I got a suspicion that the culprit was a bug in the functionning of my supermout as the kernel was looking for a disk which was not there. Anyway, I am thinking that I wish I had taken a closer look at what was going on wrong in my system before everything froze. Here is my question: Which file should I monitor (with xconsole for example) if I get suspicious about my system? To consult logs live is time-consuming (besides - do I want to open a root session, even in a non-X console, while having problems?), and looking at them after the event does not always give an answer. Alternatively, is there some monitoring tool which I could run in the background which would warn me of upcoming trouble? Thanks for any help, Andrei __ Linux-Mandrake 9 (Dolphin) Mandrake Club Silver Member Registered Linux user: 226850 Registered Linux computer: 183163 _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote: How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture? Anne Anne, I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366 IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment) -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Automated Backup
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:19:59AM +0200, Robin Turner wrote: Rob Lindsay wrote: My home system is a PIII 733 with two 20GB Internal IDE hard drives. The office system is a G4 400 with internal and external 20GB drives. Also have a PI 200MMX networked with the PIII [Don't like getting rid of a perfectly good machine]. I use M$ Backup for the W2K system and Retrospect for the Mac. Retrospect is infinitely more user-friendly than M$ Backup. It all depends on what you want to back up, how and where. tar is fine if you just want to backup the files on your Linux box. smbtar is useful if you have networked Windows boxes to back up. In the office I use a simple script which uses smbtar to back up all the Windows My Documents to the Linux box, then tars /home to one of the Windows boxes (as is obvious here, we have no hard storage media). Put this into a cron job, and everything is backed up every day. It's a bit of work getting your scipt to work right, but then you just sit back. Sir Robin I used Linux tar to back up my entire Windows partition during a lengthy reinstallation of Windows ME after a disastrous virus attack -- my Linux partition was untouched. Reinstalling the Windows box took a while. There were several phases - get WIndows working, get the printer drivers working, install the scanner software. Ths installation kept crashing. If I hadn't had Linux to provide frequent backups of the partially installed systems, so I coult wipe c: and restore, I might never have gotten Windows installed and properly configured. Maybe there are system configuratins for which this doesn't work, but it worked for me! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] When is root not root?
Although I practically never log in as root, there are many things that require root priveleges, so opening File Manager (Super User Mode) or a root console is a common task. Why is this not as dangerous? Should we be closing those sessions as soon as possible? What safeguards are there? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Dual Booting
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:43:48AM +, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:09:00 CST Steve Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grettings: Was wondering if anyone had a good site that explains dual booting Mandrake 9.0 and 8.2. I have 9.0 installed and want to dual boot 8.2 that is on a different drive. Basics: 9.0 on one drive, want to add another drive to same machine and load 8.2 on the new drive. Any links or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve Steve, here's the short version : it's piece of cake. Just install Mandrake 8.2 upon your new drive. For what I know, the installation program will automatically detect the presence of another OS and - along the way - offer you the choice to boot one or the other as default. In your case - having two discs - it's not even necessary to re-partition anything. Eventually you can use the Mandrake Control Center (as root) to adjust things later on. Most problems with dual-booting stems from another scenario : installing a real OS alongside a bogus one. Enjoy ! - But why on earth do you want two real OS's ? HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark -- Some PC's (people tell me only older ones) will only boot from the master or slave hard disks on the *first* IDE chain. If this applies to your machine, make sure both your drives are on the first chain. If so, /boot, /sbin and /etc (I think) must be in a patition on a bootable drive. Other things like /usr can, I believe, be anywhere. ANybody know about /dev? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user #214073 at http://counter.li.org This is a 100 % Microsoft-free computer. == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote: How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture? Anne Anne, I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366 IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment) Thanks, Poogle. I'll try for it in a day or two. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Routing has Died
On Thursday 26 December 2002 10:07 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: route add default gw your.isp.dynamic.ip ppp0 So did the command work or no? :) Still waiting to hear about the result. --LX You must have missed my earlier post on this thread. While tinkering with my LILO boot loader, I managed to break it. Couldn't get the rescue CD to recognize the reiserfs area of my hard drive where I had installed 9.0. So, I opted to simply reinstall. With a fresh install, I was back up with full routing capability again. I hadn't set up shorewall or downloaded any updates at this point. A post on the kde-linux board mentioned problems with the shorewall firewall in 9.0. Based on that input, I opted to install Bastille which I had used in 8.2. So, firewall is up, and its off to the updates. I've filed your info so I have it to refer to if my previous problems comes back. Again, thank you for the help. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking questions
Thanks, I'll give it a try! "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 December 2002 10:44 am, you wrote: Hi. I just installed Mandrake 9. Everything seems to be working except The only way to get the dial up connection to work is to first disable the network card. This is a plain Internet dial up to SBC, using a Creative 56k ModemBlaster. I assume it is possible to have both working at the same time since you even do it with Windows! Second, I want to be able to able to browse my Windows 2000 network from the Linux box. Is Samba the way to do this? I have looked at the instructions and it seems quite confusing. Is there any easier way? I just want to be able to retrieve video, mp3s and docs. Thanks!Hi Anthony. I have a Modemblaster as well, with a NIC...works fine here under Mandrake 8.2, but I did have to make some modifications.As root/su I had to go into /etc/sysconfig and edit "network"Mine looks like this:NETWORKING=yesFORWARD_IPV4=trueHOSTNAME=darkforce.comDOMAINNAME=comGATEWAY=GATEWAYDEV=ppp0This was what my old /etc/sysconfig/network file looked like:NETWORKING=yesFORWARD_IPV4=falseHOSTNAME=darkforce.comDOMAINNAME=comI can't remember if I had to do a:service network restartor not.Hope this helps!-- /\Dark Lord\/Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comanthony scottDo you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
Re: [newbie] EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 12:40 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: John - iscan was necessary to run my Perfection 1650 under 8.2 - from Epson's website - but I think I'm right to say that iscan is the driver included on the 9.0 distro, so you don't need to do anything more. Anne That explains it, I thought the sane windows had changed a bit since I last installed scanner software. LATER, I think not , it looks quite different now I've got it on, and the layout is different. It works quite well. Nice to know there is a second choice. John So does it look a s though the distro driver is a cut down version? Is it worth installing direct from the website? What are the improvements? Anne I've had it on all of an hour or so , Functionally , it's similar, but not the same, I would recommend it, so far, worth having a second string to your bow, you never know if one Mandrake issue may have a broken xsane. Yes take a look at it . I downloaded all the versions including the tar ball version but elected to install the rpm version, it went on like a piece of cake. I had to make a kstart menu entry for /usr/bin/iscan. Having said all this I like xsane. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote: How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture? Anne Anne, I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366 IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment) Thanks, Poogle. I'll try for it in a day or two. Anne Anne, FWIW, I installed it on PC that crashed several times daily just to prove that Linux is more stable than the user's existing operating system, the result it continues to crash daily !!! But recovery is a merely matter of rebooting. Although I haven't had the opportunity to find out why, I suspect that the solution would be new MB, Processor, Ram, Case, PSU. :-) -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Browser
On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 19:43, John McQuillen wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 10:37, Rich wrote: I recently upgraded from Mandrake 8.2 to version 9.0 and everything went smoothly. My problem is that Evolution 1.2.1 doesn't load a browser when a link is clicked. The problem may be that I can't find anyplace in Mandrake to assign a default browser. Is it possible that I missed it, or has it been removed as an option? You need to change the default browser in GNOME. gnome-control-center Go to 'Advanced' - 'Preferred Applications' then select 'Custom Web Browser' and enter the command line for your preferred browser. Mine is currently 'mozilla %s'. It was originally mozilla %s%, I've also tried Galeon and Netscape with no success. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOOO!!! My mail attachments! What is base64?
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:55:02 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 27 December 2002 10:29 am, you wrote: Base64 seems to be a fairly widespread method of encoding binary data (such as images) in the form of ASCII text for inclusion in a message or transmission over media which do not support binary transfers. In the old days when floppies were used a lot to transfer files such encoding schemes made it easier to break up very large files and stitch them together again after transfer. The UNIX utilities uudecode and uuencode were employed to handle these data files but to decode some manipulation of the files was required. My notes recommend inserting the line: begin-base64 644 filename before the encoded text and immediately after it. I know that has worked in the past but when I tried begin-base64 644 oig.jpg in your mail message, ran uudecode oig, and invoked qiv on oig.jpg, a corrupt JPEG was reported, missing header byte or something. The uudecode command should work. The man page for uudecode claims that the utility can distinguish between the two main encoding schemes automatically - not in my experience. Hi. I'm running v8.2 of Mandrake and I installed a program (found during a search for uudecode in the RPM/software manager) called uudeview. It runs from the shell, uudeview and uuenview. I save base64 files to my /home directory, then run this app on them. It works. I wish somebody could tell me how to pass this along to Kmail so it uses it automatically on these files. :-) Hope this helps (at least as a temp. fix) :-) If you get a lot of these attachments, Sylpheed has the capability to add actions. See http://melvin.hadasht.free.fr/home/sylpheed/actions/. Just one more reason I prefer Sylpheed :) Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] EPSOM PERFECTION 2400 PHOTO
I've been using both all afternoon on colour transparencies and quite honestly both do it quite well so far. Not only that but using gimp I have managed in some cases to resore quite a large amount of the mising colour for my old transparencies, where the years have faded the red and the yellow. John Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: For my Epson 2450 photo xsane couldn't digitalize the slides (they appears dirty) but iscan does it very well. El Viernes, 27 de Diciembre de 2002 15:36, John Richard Smith escribió: Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 12:40 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: John - iscan was necessary to run my Perfection 1650 under 8.2 - from Epson's website - but I think I'm right to say that iscan is the driver included on the 9.0 distro, so you don't need to do anything more. Anne That explains it, I thought the sane windows had changed a bit since I last installed scanner software. LATER, I think not , it looks quite different now I've got it on, and the layout is different. It works quite well. Nice to know there is a second choice. John So does it look a s though the distro driver is a cut down version? Is it worth installing direct from the website? What are the improvements? Anne I've had it on all of an hour or so , Functionally , it's similar, but not the same, I would recommend it, so far, worth having a second string to your bow, you never know if one Mandrake issue may have a broken xsane. Yes take a look at it . I downloaded all the versions including the tar ball version but elected to install the rpm version, it went on like a piece of cake. I had to make a kstart menu entry for /usr/bin/iscan. Having said all this I like xsane. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/
On Friday 27 December 2002 09:04 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I think I have come to the conclusion that supermount is a great mystery to me. Perhaps the name should be changed to maybemount? It seems to work at times, but then other times it doesn't. This is not a satisfying relationship. I am also not having great success using MCC to try to disable supermount. I selected the user mode instead of noauto (should I have chosen noauto?). After confirming my choice of options, I exited MCC. Then I discovered that supermount is still enabled. :-/ I will try the supermount -i disable command. Can anyone tell me the procedure to create icons for my cdrom and floppy so I can mount/unmount them easier? I did this on 8.2 I think, but can't remember how. Someone suggested using KwikDisk as an alternative, so I will check that out too. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** Angus, for making icons on the desktop, just place the mouse arrow over an empty place on the screen and right click. A box pops up and you can select create new and then choose what you want to do, like CD/DVD Rom Device. Then click on the Device tabdown arrow to the left of the fill in the blank area and select from the drop down list which device you want to iconize. If you click on the icon on the left side that looks like a cd disc you can navigate through the set of icons in your system to get a cd burner icon or leave it as is. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] before I quit
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:53 pm, Joe Braddock wrote: I don't have an answer for yo but I have some questions. I noticed that you don't have supermount loaded (at least you are not using it in your fstab file). Did you actually do the supermount disable or did you just manually edit your fstab file? When you quit using supermount, was that at the same time the other burners quit working? Are you running devfs? It should be running by default, but you might have turned it off after installing. If devfs is running, then instead of having /dev/hdc for your ide burner, you would have /dev/sdx (where x is some letter like a, b or c). This is because Linux uses the ide-scsi emulation module to make ide burners look like scsi burners. It's usually scd0, or scd1. However, it's not essential to have all cd drives scsi-emulated - just the burner Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 3:04 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I think I have come to the conclusion that supermount is a great mystery to me. Perhaps the name should be changed to maybemount? It seems to work at times, but then other times it doesn't. This is not a satisfying relationship. I am also not having great success using MCC to try to disable supermount. I selected the user mode instead of noauto (should I have chosen noauto?). After confirming my choice of options, I exited MCC. Then I discovered that supermount is still enabled. :-/ You were right to select 'user'. The problem with MCC seems to be that it is all to easy to back out of a change without saving it. I suspect that's what caused your problem, since changing it is only a matter of unselecting its button. Still, if you've got your icons up, you have a functional system now. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using a Cyrix cpu with MMX
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 2:33 pm, Poogle wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 1:32 pm, Poogle wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 H:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote: How likely is it that I could get 9.0 or 8.2 to install with this cpu? Has anyone got a working system with this architecture? Anne Anne, I installed it on a Cyrix box without problems (something like a 366 IIRC but I don't have access to it to check at the moment) Thanks, Poogle. I'll try for it in a day or two. Anne Anne, FWIW, I installed it on PC that crashed several times daily just to prove that Linux is more stable than the user's existing operating system, the result it continues to crash daily !!! But recovery is a merely matter of rebooting. Although I haven't had the opportunity to find out why, I suspect that the solution would be new MB, Processor, Ram, Case, PSU. :-) LOL I have a perfectly good system here, so this is to be a learning situation only. An introduction, for son-in-law and grandson, on the strict understanding that they will be able to explore all they like, but they won't like the speed. :) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When is root not root?
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 3:16 pm, David Williams wrote: On Friday 27 December 2002 08:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Although I practically never log in as root, there are many things that require root priveleges, so opening File Manager (Super User Mode) or a root console is a common task. Why is this not as dangerous? Should we be closing those sessions as soon as possible? What safeguards are there? Anne To add to that question (and mostly for my clarification), -- Is opening a console as superuser and installing something the same as logging out as a user and logging in as root.? David My question, precisely, and better worded. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable
Help! Everything works fine with ML 9.0 but I cannot open Mandrake Control Center! Had this problem before and went back to ML 8.2., OS on which everything works except sound. After a few months got the itches, I downloaded the three ISO-images ML 9.0. again, installed everything again, and when I tried to open Mandrake Control Center, nothing happens. Anyone had this problem and found a solution? Thanx _ Ontvang je Hotmail Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon met Hotmail SMS http://www.msn.nl/jumppage/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:53:40 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ On Friday 27 Dec 2002 3:04 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I think I have come to the conclusion that supermount is a great mystery to me. Perhaps the name should be changed to maybemount? It seems to work at times, but then other times it doesn't. This is not a satisfying relationship. I am also not having great success using MCC to try to disable supermount. I selected the user mode instead of noauto (should I have chosen noauto?). After confirming my choice of options, I exited MCC. Then I discovered that supermount is still enabled. :-/ You were right to select 'user'. The problem with MCC seems to be that it is all to easy to back out of a change without saving it. I suspect that's what caused your problem, since changing it is only a matter of unselecting its button. Still, if you've got your icons up, you have a functional system now. Anne * Thanks Anne, I did tell MCC to save the changes to /etc/fstab, but it didn't do that for me. After the changes were made through CL, I took a peek in MCC to see what it says now. To my surprise, both user and noauto are now enabled, with supermount being disabled. Does this make any sense? I had great results using MCC when I first installed 9.0, but, for some reason it has been misbehaving of late. I am a little more comfortable using CL for doing things now though. MCC is very convenient when it works. I am getting wary of it now. I have set up KwikDisk to mount/unmount cdrom and floppy. It is pretty slick. You can set it to automatically open file manager on mount. I don't think I need any desktop icons with this setup. Keeps the desktop cleaner. :-) Thanks so much for your reply. All the best. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ (Dennis)
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:46:44 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ On Friday 27 December 2002 09:04 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I think I have come to the conclusion that supermount is a great mystery to me. Perhaps the name should be changed to maybemount? It seems to work at times, but then other times it doesn't. This is not a satisfying relationship. I am also not having great success using MCC to try to disable supermount. I selected the user mode instead of noauto (should I have chosen noauto?). After confirming my choice of options, I exited MCC. Then I discovered that supermount is still enabled. :-/ I will try the supermount -i disable command. Can anyone tell me the procedure to create icons for my cdrom and floppy so I can mount/unmount them easier? I did this on 8.2 I think, but can't remember how. Someone suggested using KwikDisk as an alternative, so I will check that out too. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** Angus, for making icons on the desktop, just place the mouse arrow over an empty place on the screen and right click. A box pops up and you can select create new and then choose what you want to do, like CD/DVD Rom Device. Then click on the Device tabdown arrow to the left of the fill in the blank area and select from the drop down list which device you want to iconize. If you click on the icon on the left side that looks like a cd disc you can navigate through the set of icons in your system to get a cd burner icon or leave it as is. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 * Thanks Dennis for your reply. I thought there was some special precedure to create the icons that would allow me to mount/unmount. Sorry if I didn't communicate very clearly what I was trying to do. I barely know what I'm doing oftentimes, so there's static on my end. ;-) I do know how to create icons, but thanks for the clear explanation. I am using KwikDisk to do my mount/unmount of cdrom and floppy, seems pretty slick so far. All the best. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable
Op vrijdag 27 december 2002 18:04, schreef ivette brusselmans: Everything works fine with ML 9.0 but I cannot open Mandrake Control Center! Had this problem before and went back to ML 8.2., I think that is a bug, because you do not install the English version, right? The bug can be fixed with an update of the software via Configuration - Update Packets. If this not work and the clever ones here don't show up with an solution, then I must dig in a few notes here to solve (maybe!) your problem. -- Adrien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable
On Friday 27 December 2002 12:04 pm, you wrote: Help! Everything works fine with ML 9.0 but I cannot open Mandrake Control Center! Had this problem before and went back to ML 8.2., OS on which everything works except sound. After a few months got the itches, I downloaded the three ISO-images ML 9.0. again, installed everything again, and when I tried to open Mandrake Control Center, nothing happens. Anyone had this problem and found a solution? Thanx I had the same thing happen where I couldnt open Mandrake control center from the menu anymore.I could still run mcc from the command line as root.I havnt had this problem since i stopped trying to install kernels and stuff from the cooker. Mike ~ Mandrake 8.2 Kernel-2.4.18-8.1mdk Linux user #298896 Fri Dec 27 12:56:50 EST 2002 12:56pm up 2 days, 16:22, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.02 Homepage: http://micronuke.tripod.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Knetload Kcpuload on LM9.0?
I seem to be missing Knetload Kcpuload from my LM9.0 disks. Did Mandrake leave these off their distro this time? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable
I did indeed install the dutch version. I'll try the update and if that doesn't work install the english version. I'll let you know about the results. Thanks for the info From: Adrien Verlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mandrake list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:48:09 +0100 Op vrijdag 27 december 2002 18:04, schreef ivette brusselmans: Everything works fine with ML 9.0 but I cannot open Mandrake Control Center! Had this problem before and went back to ML 8.2., I think that is a bug, because you do not install the English version, right? The bug can be fixed with an update of the software via Configuration - Update Packets. If this not work and the clever ones here don't show up with an solution, then I must dig in a few notes here to solve (maybe!) your problem. -- Adrien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Ontvang je Hotmail Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon met Hotmail SMS http://www.msn.nl/jumppage/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable
YES YES YES!!! I changed the language, took english and the Mandreake Control center showed up without problems!!! GRAZIE MILLE From: Adrien Verlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mandrake list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML90 mandrake control center unreachable Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:48:09 +0100 Op vrijdag 27 december 2002 18:04, schreef ivette brusselmans: Everything works fine with ML 9.0 but I cannot open Mandrake Control Center! Had this problem before and went back to ML 8.2., I think that is a bug, because you do not install the English version, right? The bug can be fixed with an update of the software via Configuration - Update Packets. If this not work and the clever ones here don't show up with an solution, then I must dig in a few notes here to solve (maybe!) your problem. -- Adrien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Ontvang je Hotmail Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon met Hotmail SMS http://www.msn.nl/jumppage/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 5:25 pm, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:53:40 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ On Friday 27 Dec 2002 3:04 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I think I have come to the conclusion that supermount is a great mystery to me. Perhaps the name should be changed to maybemount? It seems to work at times, but then other times it doesn't. This is not a satisfying relationship. I am also not having great success using MCC to try to disable supermount. I selected the user mode instead of noauto (should I have chosen noauto?). After confirming my choice of options, I exited MCC. Then I discovered that supermount is still enabled. :-/ You were right to select 'user'. The problem with MCC seems to be that it is all to easy to back out of a change without saving it. I suspect that's what caused your problem, since changing it is only a matter of unselecting its button. Still, if you've got your icons up, you have a functional system now. Anne * Thanks Anne, I did tell MCC to save the changes to /etc/fstab, but it didn't do that for me. After the changes were made through CL, I took a peek in MCC to see what it says now. To my surprise, both user and noauto are now enabled, with supermount being disabled. Does this make any sense? I think it suffers from indigestion at times :) It does occasionally seem to have trouble swallowing your commands. I had great results using MCC when I first installed 9.0, but, for some reason it has been misbehaving of late. I am a little more comfortable using CL for doing things now though. MCC is very convenient when it works. I am getting wary of it now. I have set up KwikDisk to mount/unmount cdrom and floppy. It is pretty slick. You can set it to automatically open file manager on mount. I don't think I need any desktop icons with this setup. Keeps the desktop cleaner. :-) Glad it's working for you. Keep batting on. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When is root not root?
Hello. I am no security expert, read the following with that in mind. On Fri 2002-12-27 at 16:56:32 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 3:16 pm, David Williams wrote: On Friday 27 December 2002 08:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Although I practically never log in as root, there are many things that require root priveleges, so opening File Manager (Super User Mode) or a root console is a common task. Why is this not as dangerous? I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. If your question is why it is safer to run the application in question that way: it isn't. The point is to run *only* that application as root, which is safer than running everything as root. Although it is not a big safety win, why would you expose yourself unnecessarily? Should we be closing those sessions as soon as possible? Yes. But not because it is unsafe per se to have this session running, but only to be sure to not forget to close it. Leaving your computer alone with an open root session is not a good idea. What safeguards are there? sudo is a nice way to make root access safer and its use is quite standard in Linux production environments. It allows to execute a single command as root like this: sudo -H urpmi mozilla and gives up the root privilege afterwards, at once. It uses a config file (/etc/suduers) to determine who may execute which commands as root (yes, that means you may allow your roommate to only restart the webserver). It requires to authenticate with your (user) password (can be overridden), but only if you did not use it for some minutes (can be overridden, too). The advantage is that you don't have to remember to close anything in order to lose root privileges after you are done with the task. For home use, setting up sudo and getting used to it is probably not worthwhile. OTOH, once you know sudo, it is a matter of less than a minute to have a basic setup running. To add to that question (and mostly for my clarification), -- Is opening a console as superuser and installing something the same as logging out as a user and logging in as root.? Basically, yes. At least, if you login as root on the text console. If you have a graphic login, you will end up running everything as root, including KDE/GNOME, the file managers, the panels. Everything. And most of these applications where not designed with safe-as-root in mind. Although, in realitity, there is not much that will go wrong this way, you should restrict such a session to the task at hand. And not read mail, surf the web and so on. But, for a comparison, doing so is still safer than downloading a program from untrusted sources (yes, that means almost any website) and using root (either way) to install it. The risk of being harmed by a malicious program is much higher than something going wrong with your root session. There are two things to keep in mind: Security comes in layers. You do not want to have a single point of failure. Therefore you try to minimize your exposure in every layer. That's why you want to keep your actions as root to the necessary only: Not because it has any immediate risk, but because it lowers the possibility that another hole can be escalated this way. Therefore you stop unused services. Therefore you do not want to run more applications as root as needed. Second, there is no perfect security and how much you invest in security depends on how paranoid you are and what you have to lose. And, of course, how inconvenient the security measure would be. You don't keep your watch in a safe, except perhaps, if it is a Rolex. ;) OTOH, you lock your doors when you go out, and you do not have valuable jewelry lying around openly, do you? HTH, Benjamin. PS: Ah, and because it cannot be said often enough: Most important is that you keep your computer up-to-date with security fixes, of course. Especially for programs that handle untrusted input (any internet-related program, compilers, ...) msg112933/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] When is root not root?
On Friday 27 Dec 2002 6:47 pm, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hello. I am no security expert, read the following with that in mind. On Fri 2002-12-27 at 16:56:32 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 3:16 pm, David Williams wrote: On Friday 27 December 2002 08:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Although I practically never log in as root, there are many things that require root priveleges, so opening File Manager (Super User Mode) or a root console is a common task. Why is this not as dangerous? I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. If your question is why it is safer to run the application in question that way: it isn't. The point is to run *only* that application as root, which is safer than running everything as root. Although it is not a big safety win, why would you expose yourself unnecessarily? Should we be closing those sessions as soon as possible? Yes. But not because it is unsafe per se to have this session running, but only to be sure to not forget to close it. Leaving your computer alone with an open root session is not a good idea. What safeguards are there? sudo is a nice way to make root access safer and its use is quite standard in Linux production environments. It allows to execute a single command as root like this: sudo -H urpmi mozilla and gives up the root privilege afterwards, at once. It uses a config file (/etc/suduers) to determine who may execute which commands as root (yes, that means you may allow your roommate to only restart the webserver). It requires to authenticate with your (user) password (can be overridden), but only if you did not use it for some minutes (can be overridden, too). The advantage is that you don't have to remember to close anything in order to lose root privileges after you are done with the task. For home use, setting up sudo and getting used to it is probably not worthwhile. OTOH, once you know sudo, it is a matter of less than a minute to have a basic setup running. To add to that question (and mostly for my clarification), -- Is opening a console as superuser and installing something the same as logging out as a user and logging in as root.? Basically, yes. At least, if you login as root on the text console. If you have a graphic login, you will end up running everything as root, including KDE/GNOME, the file managers, the panels. Everything. And most of these applications where not designed with safe-as-root in mind. Although, in realitity, there is not much that will go wrong this way, you should restrict such a session to the task at hand. And not read mail, surf the web and so on. But, for a comparison, doing so is still safer than downloading a program from untrusted sources (yes, that means almost any website) and using root (either way) to install it. The risk of being harmed by a malicious program is much higher than something going wrong with your root session. There are two things to keep in mind: Security comes in layers. You do not want to have a single point of failure. Therefore you try to minimize your exposure in every layer. That's why you want to keep your actions as root to the necessary only: Not because it has any immediate risk, but because it lowers the possibility that another hole can be escalated this way. Therefore you stop unused services. Therefore you do not want to run more applications as root as needed. Second, there is no perfect security and how much you invest in security depends on how paranoid you are and what you have to lose. And, of course, how inconvenient the security measure would be. You don't keep your watch in a safe, except perhaps, if it is a Rolex. ;) OTOH, you lock your doors when you go out, and you do not have valuable jewelry lying around openly, do you? HTH, Benjamin. PS: Ah, and because it cannot be said often enough: Most important is that you keep your computer up-to-date with security fixes, of course. Especially for programs that handle untrusted input (any internet-related program, compilers, ...) Thank you Benjamin for a most thorough reply. sudo looks interesting - though I presume it is CL only? By and large it is much as I thought it would be - and it's just a matter of being cautious. Still, thanks again. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake update
On December 26, 2002 05:58 pm, Seth Williamson wrote: snip I was unable to reply immediately when I got this advice, but God bless you, because it did the trick. It would seem to be a fairly significant bug that they should have issued a patch for. However, your advice worked, and has saved me a lot of grief. Thanks very much. Seth Williamson Floyd, VA USA As long as it's working in an acceptable manner Seth who cares how long it took. :-) You are welcome. Super-mount has worked well occasionally in the past; not at all after the next update/bug-fix quite often, and for me on this old clunker anyway, flawlessly exactly once. Counting from version 7.1 of Mandrake. It may not seem to be a priority for developers but you are probably correct that it would reduce the anxiety level for new users should it always (gasp!) work. It's difficult; however, to try to convince any developer (whether the ones on the payroll, or the fine volunteers that work in their free time 'cause they love it) to chase bugs out of something that bores them to tears. Especially something a developer wouldn't likely be using anyway. I want to thank you for letting the list know that your problem has been worked around though. Too many people never let the rest of us know whether the advice given was of any use. Your doing so is a welcome change. [OT rant] Enjoy Mandrake while you can. If the doom'n' gloomers on the mailing lists, and the chilling statements in e-mails from Mandrake-Linux, have any factual basis we'll all be looking for a new distribution soon unless we help save the company. Become Club members, buy shares, or donate, in other words. In the interest of 'helping the cause,' I've bought retail box sets for every (at least) second release since 7.1. At times more than one set per release when a friend 'borrowed' but didn't return it. That wasn't possible for 9.0 (out of sequence for me) since the damned box sets weren't in stores in anything resembling a reasonable time frame here in western Canada. As soon as it's made easy and I don't have to pay double the posted price in a lump sum I'll jump right into the Club. Canadian Monopoly Money isn't the worst currency, but it sure as hell ain't US dollars. Adding the option to pay at $10 or $15 per month would make helping a real attainable probability for a lot of low income people, but there's no provision for that. Nor does it seem there's any interest at Mandrakesoft for making it so. Is Mandrake at all interested in my (and probably many others) ongoing $15 CDN per month? It would seem not. [\OT rant] Sorry about the above OT. Amazing what spews out of me when my buttons are pushed. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Marxist Law of Distribution of Wealth: Shortages will be divided equally among the peasants. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Informal poll
On Friday 27 December 2002 07:58 am, you wrote: On Friday 27 December 2002 02:14 am, you wrote: Anyway, I'm sure 9.0 also installs the AIC 7xxx driver by default, so have you tried installing the AIC 7xxx_old driver for your card? No - next thing to do on my list. I always use expert install mode, but I don't remember anything about changing the driver - where do I do that at? O.K., this is the step-by-step that I used (I know it actually works sometimes, because users have done this successfully). 1. Boot with the install disk and hit F1 at the splash screen 2. type:expert 3. Skip the modules screen and select:AIC7xxx_old for your scsi driver. Good Luck--I hope it works for you! e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ (Dennis)
On Friday 27 December 2002 11:38 am, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:46:44 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ On Friday 27 December 2002 09:04 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I think I have come to the conclusion that supermount is a great mystery to me. Perhaps the name should be changed to maybemount? It seems to work at times, but then other times it doesn't. This is not a satisfying relationship. I am also not having great success using MCC to try to disable supermount. I selected the user mode instead of noauto (should I have chosen noauto?). After confirming my choice of options, I exited MCC. Then I discovered that supermount is still enabled. :-/ I will try the supermount -i disable command. Can anyone tell me the procedure to create icons for my cdrom and floppy so I can mount/unmount them easier? I did this on 8.2 I think, but can't remember how. Someone suggested using KwikDisk as an alternative, so I will check that out too. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** Angus, for making icons on the desktop, just place the mouse arrow over an empty place on the screen and right click. A box pops up and you can select create new and then choose what you want to do, like CD/DVD Rom Device. Then click on the Device tabdown arrow to the left of the fill in the blank area and select from the drop down list which device you want to iconize. If you click on the icon on the left side that looks like a cd disc you can navigate through the set of icons in your system to get a cd burner icon or leave it as is. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 * Thanks Dennis for your reply. I thought there was some special precedure to create the icons that would allow me to mount/unmount. Sorry if I didn't communicate very clearly what I was trying to do. I barely know what I'm doing oftentimes, so there's static on my end. ;-) I do know how to create icons, but thanks for the clear explanation. I am using KwikDisk to do my mount/unmount of cdrom and floppy, seems pretty slick so far. All the best. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** That's ok cause I forgot to mention that once the icon is recreated this way you can right click on it and choose mount or unmount as the case may be. If supermount is disabled this is a quick two click way to bring it online. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Knetload Kcpuload on LM9.0?
On Friday 27 December 2002 12:02 pm, Sevatio wrote: I seem to be missing Knetload Kcpuload from my LM9.0 disks. Did Mandrake leave these off their distro this time? I'm not sure but think what you are looking for is lumped into ApplicationsmonitoringKDEsystem Guard from the KDE start panel. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
How strange, last night I did the same thing with an old pc. The pc is a very old Pentium 100 or 200 w/ 48meg of ram and a 6 gig disk. I didn't know about the 64meg requirement, but xfree86 (ver 4) and KDE came up and loaded fine with 48. It wasn't a speed demon, but it worked well. This was with the regular 3 CD set and regular (not text) install. It only used the 1st cd for me too, but I disabled supermount, and added the 2 other cds to the source list and it worked well. I didn't see this as anything more than a very minor annoyance. Incidently, the cd-rom drive is an old 4 speed, so since then I've changed the urpmi sources to one of the ftp mirrors. But I've loaded stuff from the 2nd and 3rd cd without issue. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] File types
What is the practicle difference between RAW and ACII files John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File types
John Richard Smith wrote: What is the practicle difference between RAW and ACII files Are you talking about text files? AFAIK, raw text means ASCII. Sir Robin -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File types
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:01:04 +0200 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about text files? AFAIK, raw text means ASCII I was wondering myself since RAW is an audio format. RAW -- PCM Signed Raw Type: wave Charles I wouldn't be so paranoid if you weren't all out to get me!! -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.20-2mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File types
RAW can be many things, including a pnm file (try save a file in gimp)... raw can also be a disk-image, and it also used on my Canon G2 digital camera... and other things. I don't think there is a simple answer to your question John ;-) Greetings Ralph -- http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them. -- George H. W. Bush Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing a Conceptronic 56K Modem on Linux Mandrake 9.0
Thanks Jason. I was going to post that same question but you answered it before i ask :) My modem is working fine now. Does anyone knows a good fax program with a nice interface thats runs on KDE? I installed Hylafax but it is only available at the command line. I suppose that i need a frontend for it. Thanks, Filipe Linux user #298018 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Informal poll
El Vie 27 Dic 2002 11:37, escribió: I'm just wondering, if I could see a show of hands so to speak - how many SCSI users have actually gotten their setups to work with Mandrake 9.0 (download edition). I have an Adaptec 2930 PCI card with: Toshiba DVD, Plextor CDRW, and an Astra Umax scanner. I have two Adaptec PCI SCSI cards. One 2940 with HD, and one (cheap) 2902 with a cd burner. Both works great since MDK 7.2, and always right out of the box. Since MDK 9.0, I can't choose the 'expert' install, but standard install do the job very well. Pilagá Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Print Server
Hi all. I'm wondering if there is anyone here who has had experience with the Hawking Mini Print Server. This is a small device that attaches to the back of my printer and allows me to access the printer from any machine on the network. Works extremely well in Windows but I have no idea how to configure it under Linux ( Mandrake 9.0 and Redhat 8.0 ). It uses the IPX protocol and the port is named LPT:PS9CB0-1. -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake Linux v9.0 Registered Linux User #175132 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] first message
On Friday 27 December 2002 08:30, Anne Wilson wrote: Mozilla.org's website have links and instructions for all the main plugins. Hi Anne Wilson I have already downloaded. I'll give it a try. What have you tried, apart from Kmix? Have you tried playing an .mp3 file, or a cd? Are you getting system sounds? Any info you can give us will help us to point to the next step Cd's, mp3's and system sounds are playing. The thing is that when I try to open a .kar file [ a kar file is a midi file with lyrics] Kmid doesn't output any sound. It's possible to see it is working because I can see when the text scrolls down, which presumably means that it is really playing. Other midi files are working fine in Kmidi. I have also had a bit of a headache trying to mount and unmount the cdrom. Sometimes automount works but other times it simply and unexplicably says I have not the access rights to the device. So, I tried #mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom But I don't know how exactly that device is called in Mandrake Linux. Thank you very much. JM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printing to PDF from OO
On Thursday 26 Dec 2002 12:42 pm, Rob Lindsay wrote: Have followed advice from many helpful people [thank you] and have most of the applications I am likely to use printing to PDF [I don't have a printer connected to this 'puter]. These files open with PS PDF Viewer and also with Acrobat 4.0 on Win4Lin. Would dearly like to be able to print to PDF from OpenOffice, and when I go to the printer within it I am channelled towards a generic printer under which I can select to print to file as PS or PDF. When I select PDF, the files open in PS and PDF Viewer, but don't open on W4L/Acrobat. Acrobat comes back with a dialogue which says There was an error opening this document - File does not begin with '%PDF-' I would like PDF files which I generate with OO to open on Mac and Win machines at work. Could someone suggest where I'm going wrong, please? Rob There is a section on my home page which may help you derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount :-/ (Dennis)
* Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Dennis for your reply. I thought there was some special precedure to create the icons that would allow me to mount/unmount. Sorry if I didn't communicate very clearly what I was trying to do. I barely know what I'm doing oftentimes, so there's static on my end. ;-) I do know how to create icons, but thanks for the clear explanation. I am using KwikDisk to do my mount/unmount of cdrom and floppy, seems pretty slick so far. All the best. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** That's ok cause I forgot to mention that once the icon is recreated this way you can right click on it and choose mount or unmount as the case may be. If supermount is disabled this is a quick two click way to bring it online. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 ** Thanks Dennis, I created the icons, and now I have another option for mount/unmount of cdrom/floppy. I should able to mount/unmount at will now. This is the real supermount. :-) --Angus We are all One, One Energy, from One Light. Let us band together as Humans, with love for all humanity, living each day in harmony with Mother Earth, our Sacred Garden. -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Possible scalper worm
Below is output from chkrootkit on my workstation. Notice the third line. I have looked for the files that this infection is supposed to put in /tmp and found nothing. The next variant slapper as you see is not detected. I have updated openssl and do not run Apache on this machine, so the point of this is what to check further and why would chkrootkit see this at all. Anyone have a similar readout? Any suggestions are appreciated. TIA snipped the readout above this cause all was nothing found Checking `rexedcs'... not found Checking `sniffer'... Checking `wted'... nothing deleted Checking `scalper'... Warning: Possible Scalper Worm installed Checking `slapper'... not infected Checking `z2'... nothing deleted -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] dave vs pcmaclan
Greetings, I saw a post previously about Dave for connecting Macs and PC's. As I recall the poster was a Mac person. That being the case I would recommend PCMacLan rather than Dave. I connected my Dad's iMac to his Pentium II last year using Dave and found that it refused to relinquish control of file sharing permissions. While this may be acceptable for a PC network that has the occasional (tolerated) Macintosh it was just terrible when we wanted to share other folders or files between the iMac and his Performa. Installing PCMacLan made the Pentium II the 'adulterated' machine and left his iMac alone which was much more acceptable to him. I also seem to recall that you are going to take a laptop to a number of locations so installing PCMacLan in all of the locations may not be possible. FWIW Rich - Richard L. Babcock, Owner Tower Training At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You! www.towertraining.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:58:38PM -0800, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: How strange, last night I did the same thing with an old pc. The pc is a very old Pentium 100 or 200 w/ 48meg of ram and a 6 gig disk. I didn't know about the 64meg requirement, but xfree86 (ver 4) and KDE came up and loaded fine with 48. It wasn't a speed demon, but it worked well. This was with the regular 3 CD set and regular (not text) install. It only used the 1st cd for me too, but I disabled supermount, and added the 2 other cds to the source list and it worked well. I didn't see this as anything more than a very minor annoyance. Incidently, the cd-rom drive is an old 4 speed, so since then I've changed the urpmi sources to one of the ftp mirrors. But I've loaded stuff from the 2nd and 3rd cd without issue. That sounds like what I need. Just how do you disable supermount and add other cds to the source list. Is this something you do before installation? Or during? Or after? With a previous version onf Mandrake (I forget which) is asked me during install which CD's I had. With 9.0 it never asks. I hope there is another way to add to the source list than to answer this question! Or if I try a hard-disk install and start by putting the contents of the all the CD's on hard disk, do I put each in a separate directory? Or should I merge them all into one directory? by, say tarring each CD into a tarfile and then untarring them all into the same directory? That way there would be no separate CD to think of mounting. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When is root not root?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:56:40PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: Although I practically never log in as root, there are many things that require root priveleges, so opening File Manager (Super User Mode) or a root console is a common task. Why is this not as dangerous? Should we be closing those sessions as soon as possible? What safeguards are there? Anne I have been told: An X server (i.e., the process that drives your screen when you are using X) can be instructed by a program (the X client) to paste stuff into any window on the screen (assuming no security measure has been taken to prevent this. Doe anyone know of such?) It that window contains, say, an xterm operating with root permission, then the X client somewhere can search the server (i.e., your screen) for root xterms, and quickly paste in commands to be run as root. Result? a security problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Off topic IPCOP 1.2.0 is up
In case anyone is interested and uses ipcop as a standalone firewall the new stable full version is up and you can find it at http://ipcop.hopto.org/ It uses smoothwall but has a useable gui to configure your set up. I have yet to figure out how to change the thing to deny packets though. HTH --- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When is root not root?
On Fri 2002-12-27 at 19:03:04 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 27 Dec 2002 6:47 pm, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: [...] sudo is a nice way to make root access safer and its use is quite standard in Linux production environments. It allows to execute a single command as root like this: sudo -H urpmi mozilla [...] Thank you Benjamin for a most thorough reply. You are welcome. sudo looks interesting - though I presume it is CL only? Correct. Sorry that I did not mention this explicitly. I thought your mail was mainly about console use, but only on re-read I realized that it wasn't. Bye, Benjamin. msg112955/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature