[newbie-it] Masterizzatore montato in sola lettura !?!?!

2003-08-02 Thread kua79
Ma perchè non riesco più a montare il masterizzatore in scrittura ?!?!?
Eppure guardate qui sotto... /dev/scd0 creato dall'utente kua ha i 
permessi rwx !!
Ovviamente non riesco a masterizzare. G!!!

12:37 kua % mount 
/mnt/CDRW  
 ~
mount:  dispositivo di blocchi/dev/cdrom1 è protetto da scrittura, 
montaggio in sola lettura in corso
12:37 kua % ll 
/dev/cdrom1
~
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 17 mag 12:10 /dev/cdrom1 - 
/dev/scd0
12:37 kua % ll 
/dev/scd0
 ~
brwx--1 kua  disk  11,   0 30 gen  2003 /dev/scd0
12:37 kua %




[newbie] RE: Kodak

2003-08-02 Thread Maureen L. Thomas
Dennis,
   No I'm afraid not.  I tried all the ideas that were given to me and 
it just won't read the d. card.  Anyway I crossposted to another 
list I'm on (by mistake) and was given another way to try it out.  If it 
works I will gladly post here how I finally got it to work.  I think 
there's a problem between the chair and the keyboard :), I have a hard 
time seeing the straight logic of Linux vs the old micrsucks days.  It 
really is a bad habit and hard to break.  I'll keep everyone posted.  
Thanks , Maureen


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Re: [newbie] How do I start the GUI from a command line?

2003-08-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 08:30, Jerry Barton wrote:

  startx
  
 If you'd like a easy choice of GUI from the command line without using a graphical 
 display manager you might want to use Xtart.
 I don't remember if it installs by default (I _THINK_ it does).  If it's not then 
 log in as root and
 
 urpmi Xtart
 
 Personally, I don't use kdm, mdkdm, gdm, xdm etc... It just seems to add an extra 
 step that takes more time IMHO.
 The last time I used one I would login from the command line, startx, then log in 
 again on the display manager, choose a GUI and hit ok.
 Maybe it's not like that anymore?  I know if i do startx now it just goes straight 
 to KDE but I figure that's because I don't use a graphical display manager.  But... 
 (and it's getting quite cliche to say this...) that's the great thing about 
 GNU/Linux... choice.  :-) 
 HTH
 
 Jerry

It's really too bad that Xtart isn't installed by default for the
Mandrake distro; having heaps choices for wm's/desktops is a great
experience for noobs'n'boobs - shows more of the advantages to
GNU/linux over the other OS's available for the PC market...

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Re: [newbie] xcdroast reboots my computer

2003-08-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Linus Drouhard wrote:

Yes, I uninstalled (several times) and reinstalled.  I reformatted the / and /usr partitions on my harddrive and reloading Mandrake and reinstalled xcdroast.  The only thing I didn't erase was my home directory.  I couldn't find anything in it that related to xcdroast.

You should have a .xcdroast folder in your home directory. Note it's a 
hidden folder.
To unhide left mouse click ,  view  - show hidden files
if you remove it, the next time you boot it will remake it , I think ?
so just move it to another place for now.


I suspect that I've installed some other package that is interfering with xcdroast, but I have no idea what it could be.  xcdroast worked for me in the distant past (I don't recall my exact configuration).  

Linus

 

Are you in M.9.0 or M9.1 , both worked fine for me in xcdroast.
But then I seldome use eroast, though I often use cdrecord.
If another writer programme is interfering , maybe,  consider removing 
them,you can always reinstall.

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Re: [newbie] saving live-stream

2003-08-02 Thread linux
m'kay! :) 
u've to go to the settings panel, input-plugins. there select mpeg layer 1-3, 
condigure. then jupm to streaming, check the checkbox save stream to harddisk, 
and thats the way the cookie crumbels :D works well! :) 
 
 
Quoting Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
 hi toghether  
 is it possible to save a live stream in xmms? or any other application?  
   
 -  
 this is in swiss-german and only for swiss-people(if there are any in 
here): 
  
   
 i wönsche euch allne e schöne 1. auguscht und tüend nöd zwild höt abig! :)  
   
 remo 
  
  
 Have you looked at the Preferences of XMMS? 
  
 Try looking under Option = Preferences = Audio I/O Plugins and look at  
 the configuration of the plugin that corresponds to the typt of stream  
 you're wanting to record.  I think you can set it to record to your hard  
 drive.  I don't know how well it works, or if it works at all.  I  
 haven't tried it yet. 
  
 Let us know how it goes. :-) 
  
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[newbie] Evolution archiving

2003-08-02 Thread Brian Parish
Just installed 1.4.4  Very nice - even synch with the Palm V works!  I
still can't find a way however, of archiving or deleting old calendar
entries.  So currently I have well over 2000 appointment records being
synchronized with the Palm V, taking many minutes.

Am I missing something?  This a basic requirement, so maybe I am.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] changing monitor

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 02 Aug 2003 2:21 am, crak600 wrote:
 On Friday 01 August 2003 04:19 am, Paul wrote:
  If you've got a display you can use harddrake.

 glad this was brought up.  i've got some questions.

 what if you don't have a display?  situationwas having a power
 supply problem with my PC.  i moved the PC from under the desk to my
 kitchen table, easier to work there.  instead of lugging my 19
 moniter to it, i grabbed my spare 14 moniter and plugged that in. 
 everything went fine, until i got to where i had to log in to mdk,
 then i got a blue box on my moniter screen that said OUT OF SCAN
 RANGE.  i hit ALT CTRL Backspace a few times, then got to a command
 line, from there i logged in as a user and just typed in halt to
 shut down the system.  by then i was done my power supply testing, so
 i was able to put the comp back together and go back to my 19
 moniter.  but the problem (what i suspect it was) is that i have the
 moniter resolution set a LOT higher than my 14 montier can handle,
 so when i was trying to use it for a test moniter, it couldn't handle
 the 1200x1600 resolution.  so in a case like this, what choices do i
 have to get my 14 moniter to work if i'm unable to knock down the
 resolution in the control center before swapping moniters?

 my 14 moniter was origonally used when i installed mdk 9.1, and then
 i upgraded to the 19 i have now.  i'm still using the same video
 card as well.

 Thanks!

 Mike

Most of the time you can use Ctrl-Alt-KeypadMinus and 
Ctrl-Alt-KeypadPlus to change resolution on the fly. Try it now, it's 
fun and it wont screw the system up. If one of them works you can use 
that to run XFDrake, or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and remove the 
offending resolutions, or just move them elsewhere in the list.

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[newbie] Evo question (was Evolution archiving)

2003-08-02 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 10:42, Brian Parish wrote:

Hi Brian,
Did you have to jump through hoops to get 1.4.4. installed? I mean, were
there bunches of dependencies to fullfil?
I'd appreciate the info!
Paul

 Just installed 1.4.4  Very nice - even synch with the Palm V works!  I
 still can't find a way however, of archiving or deleting old calendar
 entries.  So currently I have well over 2000 appointment records being
 synchronized with the Palm V, taking many minutes.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla and my bank

2003-08-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 01 Aug 2003 11:03 pm, Margot wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:

 My bank was a savings account at Tesco (which is a supermarket,
 for non-uk readers who may not have heard of it!). David said his
 new account was a business account, so is probably with a proper
 bank - but they might be equally unenlightened when it comes to
 linux compatibility.

I just thought that it might help if we could tell whether other 
people had access to the bank account that was causing problems.  
Thanks for the info - it might help someone else.

 I did send an email to Tesco pointing out that it was a bit odd,
 from a marketing point of view, that they were restricting
 themselves to a shrinking market of Windows users, and also
 mentioning security concerns - no reply yet!

Typical

 Gall bladder having been removed, I am feeling slightly better, and
 almost able to resume my linux self-education!

Ouch!! I remember it well

Anne


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Re: [newbie] exotic letters problem (å3D3D3D3D, =3D?utf-8?qC3=3DA4?=

2003-08-02 Thread fifner the dragon
 Firstly : did it solve your problem ? 
  
 Secondly : Your userinterface is independent of systems settings,  
 for example, if you you have the relevant locales installed,  
 from KDE's Control Center just change to whatever language you  
 want.  
  
 HTH 
  
 Kaj Haulrich. 
 
No, it didn't solve the problem. So now I'm hoping for another suggestion. 
 
Thanks, 
 
Fifner 
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Re: [newbie] Kmail send fails

2003-08-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 02 Aug 2003 2:57 am, David E Fox wrote:
  Here is an oddity in kmail. If I forget and do not login and get
  messages, I can not send a message that I have formulated while
  not logged on. And it

 Dennis - I have too seen this happen a couple of times with kmail.
 Usually it happens when I upgrade, or (maybe) if I alter my postfix
 configuration. I don't alter the postfix config, but I had to
 reinstall and make sure the working config was restored recently.
 Once it worked, it baffled me that a message couldn't be sent, and
 got stored in the outbox. But, when I restarted kmail, and clicked
 on send queued, it was able to send it.

 I don't think the ISP is involved - at least here because my mail
 server is next to my left foot. :)  IOW I have mail to/from here
 using my dsl name.

I think tit's a kde bug, but perhaps one that affects different 
systems in different ways.  I my case I occasionally get messages 
stuck in the outbox, but they almost always go if I 'send queued 
messages'.  Just occasionally I have to close kmail and restart it.

I normally leave kmail open and polling for messages all night, and 
some mornings I find that it is better to re-start it - presumably so 
that it can do housekeeping.  HTH

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[newbie] Mozilla profile in use

2003-08-02 Thread fifner the dragon
Hi, 
 
When I try to start Mozilla it sais Mozilla cannot use the profile default 
because it is in use. Please choose another profile or create a new one. 
 
I'm the only one using this computer and it's the same when I restart the 
computer. 
 
How can it be in use?  
 
Thanks in advance, 
 
Fifner 
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Re: [newbie] Evo question (was Evolution archiving)

2003-08-02 Thread Brian Parish
No.  There are released Mandrake specific rpms at:

ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-evolution/mandrake-91-i586

I just D/Led the latest version of each non-development rpm and
installed them all.  Had to remove some of the old rpms that it objected
to as I had previously tried the cooker version (which didn't work).

Enjoy!

Brian

On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 19:56, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 10:42, Brian Parish wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 Did you have to jump through hoops to get 1.4.4. installed? I mean, were
 there bunches of dependencies to fullfil?
 I'd appreciate the info!
 Paul
 
  Just installed 1.4.4  Very nice - even synch with the Palm V works!  I
  still can't find a way however, of archiving or deleting old calendar
  entries.  So currently I have well over 2000 appointment records being
  synchronized with the Palm V, taking many minutes.


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[newbie] Kooka

2003-08-02 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi all,

I recently did a complete uninstall of SANE and all that comes along
with it due to the dependencies (which is quite a lot) in order to get
my new scanner connected.

After installing SANE again I got the scanner running fortunately, but
it seems that Kooka is no longer with me. It's not in the menu anymore,
i can't start it from the command line and when i search on the name
kooka in Mandrake Control Center it doesn't show up in either install
new software or remove software.

Can i install package kooka-3.0.5-1.i386.rpm from RpmFind.net or is
there a mdk specific package that i missed?

Btw, Xsane runs, but I'm not too fond about it, so that's why i want to
give Kooka a try.

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RE: [newbie] How do I start the GUI from a command line?

2003-08-02 Thread Frankie
I agree, but i don't think its been worked on since Civileme
took a powder from mandrake..

it could (and should) be prettied up and made the default..
would be of benefit to mandrake to do so.

I might look into that, depends on what language its written
in..


rgds

Franki

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To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I start the GUI from a command
line?


On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 08:30, Jerry Barton wrote:

  startx
 
 If you'd like a easy choice of GUI from the command line
without using a graphical display manager you might want to
use Xtart.
 I don't remember if it installs by default (I _THINK_ it
does).  If it's not then log in as root and

 urpmi Xtart

 Personally, I don't use kdm, mdkdm, gdm, xdm etc... It
just seems to add an extra step that takes more time IMHO.
 The last time I used one I would login from the command
line, startx, then log in again on the display manager,
choose a GUI and hit ok.
 Maybe it's not like that anymore?  I know if i do startx
now it just goes straight to KDE but I figure that's because
I don't use a graphical display manager.  But... (and it's
getting quite cliche to say this...) that's the great thing
about GNU/Linux... choice.  :-)
 HTH

 Jerry

It's really too bad that Xtart isn't installed by default
for the
Mandrake distro; having heaps choices for wm's/desktops is a
great
experience for noobs'n'boobs - shows more of the
advantages to
GNU/linux over the other OS's available for the PC market...

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Note that LET *could* have been defined by:

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,LET)))
`(LET ((LET ',LET))
,LET))

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3.50 depending on whether you believe our friendly marketing
representatives.
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Re: [newbie] Mozilla profile in use

2003-08-02 Thread Björn Olsson
On  Sat, 02 Aug 2003 fifner the dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, 
  
 When I try to start Mozilla it sais Mozilla cannot use the profile
 default because it is in use. Please choose another profile or
 create a new one. 
  
 I'm the only one using this computer and it's the same when I restart
 the computer. 
  
 How can it be in use?  
  
 Thanks in advance, 
  
 Fifner 

I had the same problem some time ago. It was due to a lockfile in one of
the directories under ~/.mozilla/default/. Get rid of that file, and
Mozilla should start all right.

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Re: [newbie] VMware and Samba Passwords -possibly a bit OT

2003-08-02 Thread Graham Watkins
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 19:21, Graham Watkins wrote:

Hi Y'all,

Having a bit of trouble with file sharing on the windows 98 guest on 
VMware.  Although the passwords for windows login and Samba are the 

snipped
I prefer to NOT use the VMWare Samba - so that the guest is actually
part of the real network. Making sure that Samba is setup correctly is
another issue; the settings in Samba can be very cryptic, so the actual
share you want to access has to be setup properly in order to have
workgroup access.
You might want to use SWAT via Webmin to setup your Samba server and
help to synchronise the users/passwords - much better than doing it from
the term...and more intuitive if you care to use that phrase...
Managed to get it working - I needed to create an object in the Windows 
registry that recognised unencripted passwords.  All done now.

I don't reckon I'll mess with the regular Samba at this time. Maybe if I 
ever have to network a second box I'll have a go.

Cheers.

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RE: [newbie] NT Domain help.... (SOLVED!!)

2003-08-02 Thread Lanman
Stephen? Does the Mac list ever have a lot of traffic?? g

Lanman

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 Well Stephen,...Looks like we've outlived our usefulness to Frankie!
Time to move on to another list! Grin! Grin!
 
 Lanman

Yeah - well, the Macintosh list ain't got alot of traffic(g)

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Re: [newbie] Evo question (was Evolution archiving)

2003-08-02 Thread Technoslick
On Saturday 02 August 2003 05:56 am, Paul graced me with:
 On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 10:42, Brian Parish wrote:

 Hi Brian,
 Did you have to jump through hoops to get 1.4.4. installed? I mean,
 were there bunches of dependencies to fullfil?
 I'd appreciate the info!
 Paul

When I installed it on my laptop a several weeks ago, I used Ximian's 
Red Carpet. I found out the first time I tried to upgrade to a newer 
version of Evolution that this was the best, cleanest way to go. In 
my judgement, Red Carpet is much nicer and easier to work with than 
Mandrake's own Package Manager GUI. 

I did have one problem that made me decide to not use 1.4.4. The 
printer font was some weird contorted mess that I couldn't find any 
way to change. Have you tried to print an email as yet? I went all 
over the Web, Ximian's site, tried a few suggestions, looked around 
in the configs. I must have been answer-dumb because I just couldn't 
find any way to get rid of that stupid, useless font.

Outside of the font issue, I like 1.4.4. I didn't have that many 
records in my Handspring and had to dump MDK on my laptop for several 
reasonsergo, not enough time with it to experience your problem.

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Re: [newbie] xcdroast reboots my computer

2003-08-02 Thread Pilagá

Linus Drouhard escribió:
 Yes, I uninstalled (several times) and reinstalled.  I reformatted the /
  and /usr partitions on my harddrive and reloading Mandrake and
  reinstalled xcdroast.  The only thing I didn't erase was my home
  directory.  I couldn't find anything in it that related to xcdroast.
 Linus

First: Try the last release (alpha14) www.xcdroast.org, and also:

/26. Write performance is bad or my system freezes!/
If your system is put into high stress while you write a CD you might
get buffer underruns or in the worst case the system locks up
completely. Almost always these problems hint towards an incorrectly
configured system.
First check the transferrate of your harddrive - on linux there is a
tool called hdparm which does a nice job here.
/sbin/hdparm -t /dev/hda
This will measure the raw read throughput of your drive - you should see
values like 20-30MB/s for modern drives. If you are way below that value
you cannot write CDs in high-speed. Check if DMA transfer is enabled for
that drive. (See man hdparm for details).
Next thing is to check if you have other programs which also access the
CD-ROM/CD-Writer. Desktop-Systems often have KDE or Gnome running which
try to automount each inserted CD. This often kills cdrecord. Turn off
all this automatic CD handling in the Setup of KDE/Gnome. There are also
CD-Player applets in KDE and Gnome which should be disabled.
Now we check the writer device itself. Use hdparm again to see if DMA is
enabled. For some systems DMA should be on, on others it should be
disabled. You have to try for yourself which configuration gives you the
best results.
/sbin/hdparm -d 0 -u 0 -k 1 /dev/hdc
This command disables DMA transfers /dev/hdc (possibly your CD-Writer).
Some reports told me that this often fixed problems.
If you still have problems you can try to set the Set SCSI IMMED flag
option within the X-CD-Roast write dialog. On systems where harddrive
and writer are on the same IDE bus this can improve the behaviour.

/usr/share/doc/xcdroast-0.98alpha14/FAQ
/usr/share/doc/xcdroast-0.98alpha14/Readme atapi

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla and my bank

2003-08-02 Thread Margot
David wrote:
On Friday 01 August 2003 05:32 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
--snip
Have you looked at the thread Can't access my bank account,
started 9/3/03? I had a similar problem to yours, and after trying
several tweaks we came to the conclusion that it just wasn't
possible to access my particular account without Windows - the bank
software was using Active X controls, so had to be run through
Internet Explorer. I just don't want you spending loads of time
trying to do something that just isn't possible when you could be
doing something useful instead.
If you haven't seen the thread, let me know - to save you trawling
through archives, I could forward the messages to you.
Margot

--snip

Anne


Good point Margot. I have not seen the thread. I assumed (grin) my problem  
had something to do with Explorer. I tried the site that Richard sent and it 
worked just fine. The Bank is BBT here in the states. Is there some way that 
I could look at the source page that would indicate ActiveX.
No idea I'm afraid - Tesco's website had a helpful page explaining that 
you had to use Windows and IE for security reasons! I can only suggest 
that you look to see if your bank has anything similar, and if they 
don't maybe you could phone them and try to persuade them to put you 
through to someone in their IT department - because the average person 
in customer services probably won't have a clue what your talking about.

 I was very well
versed in Windows when the Paladium stuff struck a raw nerve and I bolted to 
Mandrake Linux. Needless to say, I know just enough about Linux to be 
dangerous. 
David

I don't know enough yet to be brave enough to start anything that might 
be dangerous - I just sit here, chanting the mantra don't log in as 
root...don't log in as root!

Margot


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Re: [newbie] Evo question (was Evolution archiving)

2003-08-02 Thread Paul
Hi T,

I got 1.4.4. working already, with the RPM's from the site that Brian
pointed out. No problem at all.

 way to change. Have you tried to print an email as yet? I went all 

I very rarely print e-mails. I gave it a try, since you mentioned it. It
does print with a very weird font. Even worse: when printing to a PDF
file, the same weird font is used.

Not a big deal for me, but I can see where the shoe hurts.
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Re: [newbie] Problen with Audigy 2

2003-08-02 Thread El Rengo

- Original Message - 
From: C Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problen with Audigy 2


At 03:05 PM 8/1/03 -0300, you wrote:
Hi, first, sorry for my english, is not soo good.
That it´s my firs week with Linux, and more i don´t
know.
The Linux Mandrake 9.1, have detect my sound card
(Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2), in the control
center of linux mandrake apear emu10k2, thats if i
don't mistake it's the procesator of my soundcard.
but i dont have sound.
i visited various web page for a one solution
www.opensource.creative.com, this page don't have
maintain, beose the last file it's of jenuary of 2002.
www.opensound.com, this page have a driver but only
works the frontal spaker (i've a 5.1 analigic
speakers, i would like, if possible use all the spaker
system)and is pay.
www.alsa-project.org, this page have a driver but dont
suport this sound card.
and more.
A freiend tellme of the alsa-mixer, for togle the
mute, but this mixer i don have installed.
if any of you cant tell me any solution i will most
gratefully.
thanks for all
i'm waiting a answer.
thanks
Gustavo


The default for Mandrake seems to have the mixers set to zero
Open aumix - in multimediasound and you will probably see the volume at
zero.
I believe it is installed by default.

I know of no program for rear speaker support but OSS is working on it.

Hope that helps
Curt

i probe but don't work becos its yet unmute the mixer.
any other solution??? please
thanks
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Re: [newbie] Evo question (was Evolution archiving)

2003-08-02 Thread Technoslick
On Saturday 02 August 2003 08:34 am, Paul graced me with:
 Hi T,

 I got 1.4.4. working already, with the RPM's from the site that
 Brian pointed out. No problem at all.

Good for you! If you can get all the RPM's needed to satisfy 
dependencies, all's fine.  :0)


  way to change. Have you tried to print an email as yet? I went
  all

 I very rarely print e-mails. I gave it a try, since you mentioned
 it. It does print with a very weird font. Even worse: when printing
 to a PDF file, the same weird font is used.

Wellat least I know it isn't me, or something specific to my 
layout. I have a RH 9 workstation running the default-installed 
1.2.x. I think I'll install 1.4.4 on it and see if I get the same 
ugly printer font. Maybe someone will jump in here and give us some 
clues as to how to get rid of this font. hint, hint??

I can imagine that printing as a PDF has to be butt-ugly, too. 
):0p


 Not a big deal for me, but I can see where the shoe hurts.

Dr. Smith used to say on the old TV show, Lost In Space'

Oh, the pain...the pain...

T :0)

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Re: [newbie] exotic letters =?utf-8?q?problem

2003-08-02 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 02 August 2003 10:11 am, fifner the dragon wrote:
  Firstly : did it solve your problem ?
 
  Secondly : Your userinterface is independent of systems
  settings, for example, if you you have the relevant locales
  installed, from KDE's Control Center just change to whatever
  language you want.
 
  HTH
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 No, it didn't solve the problem. So now I'm hoping for another
 suggestion.

 Thanks,

 Fifner

Sorry to hear that, Fifner. Then someone wiser than me (most on 
this list are) will probably step in.

BTW : is it only gFTP that causes trouble ? What about text 
editors, word processors, browsers etc. ?  Judging from the 
subject line on this thread it's likely to be a UTF problem ?
What happens when you change your encodings in mailers, browsers 
etc. ?

Kaj Haulrich.
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[newbie] MIDI: GM, GS, and XG

2003-08-02 Thread The Other
08/02/03

Hello John,

I haven't checked lately, but one of the best MIDI books around is:

The MIDI Files
by Rob Young, published by Prentice Hall Europe, 1996
ISBN 0-13-262403-6 (pbk)
$29.95US in January 1998 when I bought mine.
For a single reference on MIDI, this book will be *extremely* hard to 
beat.  It goes from novice to expert in an easy to read format, has 
programming exercises, and a diskette with the exercises so you listen 
to the proper results.



Some preliminary information:

GM= General MIDI, the original standard from 1991

GS= Roland's entry (named from their GS chip) also appeared in 1991. 
It is compatible with GM and offers extras.

XG= Yamaha's entry appeared in late 1994.  Compatible with GM and 
offers extras.

Most computer sound cards are going to use GM.  Keyboard synthesizers 
and other outboard gear will use GM and whatever else their 
manufacturer decided to add.

I use a SB Live! Value card (GM and soundfonts) and Roland rack 
mounted modules: in particular the GS64 (1000+ sounds and GM 
compatible) and the OC1--an Orchestra module specializing in, what 
else, Orchestra instruments :)

I don't have Yamaha gear, but my version of Cakewalk Pro Audio 8.4 has 
support for 29 Yamaha synths and XG.  Tell me exactly which Yamaha 
keyboard/synth your daughter is using and I'll look into it.



Now for the files you sent me.
I took a look at Song001.mid only.
This appears to be a professionally crafted midi file.  It's using 
MIDI controller effects that would take an expert to program.  If your 
daughter made this file, then you can ask *her* how to get it work 
with Rosegarden.  :)

The problem is not in the Instrument Patch list.  GS and XG both use 
GM instrument patches as a basis in their default bank.  I hadn't read 
the Yamaha XG section in The MIDI Files book before because I don't 
use XG.  Sorry for the bad pointer before about XG instrument patches.

---
The first glaring problem is in Channel 9.  The GM standard (also 
followed by GS) is that Channel 10 is the Drum Channel.  XG allows 
Channel 10 and 2 other channels to be used for Drums.  Song001.mid is 
using Channel 9 for a Drum Channel.  This immediately got you hearing 
a Clean Guitar when run through Rosegarden (which uses GM only, I 
believe.)  The quick fix is to redirect this track from Channel 9 to 
Channel 10.  Then you will have two tracks playing through Channel 10. 
  That's okay with MIDI.

There was a second problem with Channel 9 and Channel 10.  They were 
set to use patch number 27.  This is not a defined patch in XG Drum Sets.

Here's how XG define the drums set patches:
 0- none
 1- Standard Kit 1
 2- Standard Kit 2
 9- Room Kit
17- Rock Kit
25- Electro Kit
26- Analog Kit
33- Jazz Kit
41- Brush Kit
49- Classic Kit
With GM, there is only one defined drum kit called Standard Kit.  It 
will either be at patch 0 or at patch 1, depending how Rosegarden 
labels the patches.

So to fix your drum problem, reset the track that was using Channel 9 
to Channel 10, and reset the patch number to 0 or 1 (whichever setting 
allows you to hear the standard drum kit) for Channel 9 and Channel 10.
--

The second major problem is with other Channels using nonstandard GM 
instrument banks (and using nonstandard XG banks as well.)  This is 
probably because this song was composed *specifically* for your 
instrument.  That's why I've asked you to tell me exactly which Yamaha 
you have.  It will help me to load the correct Instrument Bank so I 
can see which instrument is supposed to be playing on that Channel.

Most of the Channels were using Bank 0, which should be fine and 
should be defaulting to the standard GM instrument bank.

Channel 1 was using Bank 116.  Not an XG standard bank.  The quick fix 
is to change it to Bank 0.  This will use a Lead 2 Sawtooth instrument.

Don't worry about Channel 2.  It's used to send MIDI control 
information and is not 'played'.  Leave it alone.

Channel 11 was using Bank 113.  Also not an XG standard bank.  Change 
it to Bank 0.  This will use the SynthBass1 instrument.

Channel 15 was using Bank 112.  Same problem as with the other two 
channels.  Change it to Bank 0 for now.  This will use the Piano2 
instrument.
---

That should get you going for now.  I've never gotten Rosegarden up 
and running, so I can't tell you how to make these changes to Song001.mid.

And worse yet, my Windows NT partition got a virus while I was using 
it for email when trying to work out my Mandrake install problems. 
I'll probably be doing another low level format and reinstalling the 
rest of this weekend after I got off work tonight.  So you probably 
won't be hearing from me for a few days.

But hopefully someone else can assist you with Rosegarden to make 
these changes.

All the Best, John
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Re: [newbie] Evo question (was Evolution archiving)

2003-08-02 Thread christian
Hi Paul,

I've just upgraded ximian evolution to 1.4.4 through ximian red-carpet,
wich manages all the dependences stuff (two or three packages were
downloade and updated) automatically. Try it, it works great.  

http://www.ximian.org/products/redcarpet/download.html

Then, choose  Linux mandrake 9.1 for x386 in the list and go.

You can also use red-carpet to upgrade mandrake instead urpmi. 


El sáb, 02-08-2003 a las 11:56, Paul escribió:
 On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 10:42, Brian Parish wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 Did you have to jump through hoops to get 1.4.4. installed? I mean, were
 there bunches of dependencies to fullfil?
 I'd appreciate the info!
 Paul
 
  Just installed 1.4.4  Very nice - even synch with the Palm V works!  I
  still can't find a way however, of archiving or deleting old calendar
  entries.  So currently I have well over 2000 appointment records being
  synchronized with the Palm V, taking many minutes.

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[newbie] apache setup and archives

2003-08-02 Thread Bill Winegarden
Hi Everyone,
I am trying to set up a simple apache (2.0) webserver so I would normally try 
to search the archives. I continue to get error messages whenever I try to 
access them.
As an alternative, does anyone have a good newbie site for the steps 
involved?
Also, on my 9.1 installation with default security settings, is the standard 
port open or closed? How can I tell.

As you can see, I'm pretty new to webserving so all assistance is appreciated.

Best regards from burning BC

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Re: [newbie] apache setup and archives

2003-08-02 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 08:05:57 +
Bill Winegarden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
   I am trying to set up a simple apache (2.0) webserver so I would
   normally try 
 to search the archives. I continue to get error messages whenever I
 try to access them.

For most mailing list archives, I use http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/. Use
your browser's find function to locate mandrake-newbie.


   As an alternative, does anyone have a good newbie site for the
   steps 
 involved?

Not much to do, it should work out of the box. Verify that httpd is
running (you can do that through mcc  system  services--you can also
start it from there if it's not running). To start it from a terminal,
as root do service httpd start. Note that if you make any
configuration changes to /etc/httpd/conf/*.conf, you'll have to restart
httpd.

   Also, on my 9.1 installation with default security settings, is
   the standard 
 port open or closed? How can I tell.

You can go to mcc  security  firewall and check that you want to allow
Web Server.


 As you can see, I'm pretty new to webserving so all assistance is
 appreciated.
 
 Best regards from burning BC
 
 Bill W.

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[newbie] Mozilla firebird 0.7

2003-08-02 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Anybody here tried to get this to work? If so was it an RPM or a tar
install?

The wife has it on her SuSe 8.2 install and I'm jealous!

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Re: [newbie] exotic letters =?utf-8?q?problem

2003-08-02 Thread fifner the dragon

 Sorry to hear that, Fifner. Then someone wiser than me (most on 
 this list are) will probably step in.
 
 BTW : is it only gFTP that causes trouble ? What about text 
 editors, word processors, browsers etc. ?  Judging from the 
 subject line on this thread it's likely to be a UTF problem ?
 What happens when you change your encodings in mailers, browsers 
 etc. ?
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

The problems this far are sending it over ftp and compressing it. 

When I right click a folder in konqueror and choose to zip it there is a problem with 
the non enlish characters. They are replaced by other wierd characters. I don't know 
what program is used. When I tar a folder there is no problem. Text editors, word 
processors, browsers etc are no problem...

Thank you all,

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla firebird 0.7

2003-08-02 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 20:03, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 Anybody here tried to get this to work? If so was it an RPM or a tar
 install?
 
 The wife has it on her SuSe 8.2 install and I'm jealous!

Just downloaded/installed via urpmi from texstar.

Looks good.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla firebird 0.7

2003-08-02 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Paul wrote:

On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 20:03, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 

Anybody here tried to get this to work? If so was it an RPM or a tar
install?
The wife has it on her SuSe 8.2 install and I'm jealous!
   

Just downloaded/installed via urpmi from texstar.

Looks good.

Paul M.

0.7?  I don't think that's even out yet.  I think 0.6.1 is the latest 
release.

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Re: [newbie] Kooka

2003-08-02 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Marco Verheul wrote:

Hi all,

I recently did a complete uninstall of SANE and all that comes along
with it due to the dependencies (which is quite a lot) in order to get
my new scanner connected.
After installing SANE again I got the scanner running fortunately, but
it seems that Kooka is no longer with me. It's not in the menu anymore,
i can't start it from the command line and when i search on the name
kooka in Mandrake Control Center it doesn't show up in either install
new software or remove software.
Can i install package kooka-3.0.5-1.i386.rpm from RpmFind.net or is
there a mdk specific package that i missed?
Btw, Xsane runs, but I'm not too fond about it, so that's why i want to
give Kooka a try.
Marco

Kooka is part of kdegraphics.  When you uninstalled everything it may 
have been one of the packages that got the ax.  Re-install it and see 
what happens.

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Re: [newbie] saving live-stream

2003-08-02 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

m'kay! :) 
u've to go to the settings panel, input-plugins. there select mpeg layer 1-3, 
condigure. then jupm to streaming, check the checkbox save stream to harddisk, 
and thats the way the cookie crumbels :D works well! :) 

Great!



Quoting Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

   

hi toghether  
is it possible to save a live stream in xmms? or any other application?  

-  
this is in swiss-german and only for swiss-people(if there are any in 
 

here): 
 

   

i wönsche euch allne e schöne 1. auguscht und tüend nöd zwild höt abig! :)  

remo 

 

Have you looked at the Preferences of XMMS? 

Try looking under Option = Preferences = Audio I/O Plugins and look at  
the configuration of the plugin that corresponds to the typt of stream  
you're wanting to record.  I think you can set it to record to your hard  
drive.  I don't know how well it works, or if it works at all.  I  
haven't tried it yet. 

Let us know how it goes. :-) 

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[newbie] import messages from OE6 into Kmail

2003-08-02 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Hello all,
I've been trying to import messages from OE6 into Kmail without success.
The process just stopped after some times.
Has anyone got any idea how to import it?
I use the ToolImport menu from Kmail.
Thanks.
Fajar.

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Re: [newbie] KDE Weirdness, logout button without the dragon

2003-08-02 Thread Heather/Femme
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 14:03, Robin Turner wrote:
 Heather/Femme wrote:
  Other small problem... I like that little dragon that pops up  gives me
  options on how i want to logout when I hit the Logout button on the
  kicker.  It seems to not be there anymore...yet was there when I first
  loaded 9.0/.1.  Where is he  how do I get him back permanently?
 
 Looks like a mismatch between MCC and KDE settings. Do you have 
 automatic login?  If so, disable it in MCC, then enable it in KDE.
 
 Sir Robin
Dunno how you figured this out but ty. That worked :)

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[newbie] Using other CDs

2003-08-02 Thread Carter Harris
I purchased the PowerPack Edition from MandrakeStore for 9.1.  I
installed a bare bones system thinking I would add only the things I
needed later.  I added apache and mysql using the control center/add
packages and they both are working fine.  Now I want to add Webmin but
it does not show up in the package list.

I found it on CD2 and I know I can copy it and install it using urpmi
but I being stubborn and I want to do it my way (guess that's why I'm
using linux).  How do I go about adding contents of other CDs to the
contents of RPMDrake so the packages show up on the list of available
packages?

I have googled and checked out the 9.1 documentation and if it's there
I've missed it.

Your help is appreciated.

Carter



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Re: [newbie] Using other CDs

2003-08-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 02 Aug 2003 7:14 pm, Carter Harris wrote:
 I purchased the PowerPack Edition from MandrakeStore for 9.1.  I
 installed a bare bones system thinking I would add only the things
 I needed later.  I added apache and mysql using the control
 center/add packages and they both are working fine.  Now I want to
 add Webmin but it does not show up in the package list.

 I found it on CD2 and I know I can copy it and install it using
 urpmi but I being stubborn and I want to do it my way (guess that's
 why I'm using linux).  How do I go about adding contents of other
 CDs to the contents of RPMDrake so the packages show up on the list
 of available packages?

 I have googled and checked out the 9.1 documentation and if it's
 there I've missed it.

urpmi.addmedia --distrib file://mnt/cdrom/

with CD1 in the drive it should do what you want. 

BTW - you 'hijacked' a thread, which is a real PITA for those using 
threaded mail readers.  If you reply to a post, changing the subject 
line, it doesn't break the train of associations, so it is in the 
middle of a totally unrelated thread.  Please always start a new 
thread for a new subject.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Mozilla firebird 0.7

2003-08-02 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
 
 Just downloaded/installed via urpmi from texstar.
 

U got a URL for that because all my googling only produces 6.1...


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Re: [newbie] Using other CDs

2003-08-02 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 02 August 2003 01:14 pm, Carter Harris wrote:
 I purchased the PowerPack Edition from MandrakeStore for 9.1.  I
 installed a bare bones system thinking I would add only the things I
 needed later.  I added apache and mysql using the control center/add
 packages and they both are working fine.  Now I want to add Webmin but
 it does not show up in the package list.

 I found it on CD2 and I know I can copy it and install it using urpmi
 but I being stubborn and I want to do it my way (guess that's why I'm
 using linux).  How do I go about adding contents of other CDs to the
 contents of RPMDrake so the packages show up on the list of available
 packages?

 I have googled and checked out the 9.1 documentation and if it's there
 I've missed it.

 Your help is appreciated.

 Carter
Carter, if it does not show up on the add packages list in MCC then it 
probably is already installed. Take a look in MCC at software management 
remove packages and in the search box type webmin.  If webmin package shows 
up you have it installed. Easier yet is type in a terminal slocate webmin. 
You may have to do that as su if you have not added that to your users' 
groups.  If you have it you can access it by opening a webbrowser and typing 
in https://localhost:1/ then give root and root password and it will log 
you in.
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RE: [newbie] Using other CDs

2003-08-02 Thread Carter Harris
Thanks Anne ... Sorry about the screwed up thread.

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Using other CDs


On Saturday 02 Aug 2003 7:14 pm, Carter Harris wrote:
 I purchased the PowerPack Edition from MandrakeStore for 9.1.  I 
 installed a bare bones system thinking I would add only the things I 
 needed later.  I added apache and mysql using the control center/add 
 packages and they both are working fine.  Now I want to add Webmin but

 it does not show up in the package list.

 I found it on CD2 and I know I can copy it and install it using urpmi 
 but I being stubborn and I want to do it my way (guess that's why I'm 
 using linux).  How do I go about adding contents of other CDs to the 
 contents of RPMDrake so the packages show up on the list of available 
 packages?

 I have googled and checked out the 9.1 documentation and if it's there

 I've missed it.

urpmi.addmedia --distrib file://mnt/cdrom/

with CD1 in the drive it should do what you want. 

BTW - you 'hijacked' a thread, which is a real PITA for those using 
threaded mail readers.  If you reply to a post, changing the subject 
line, it doesn't break the train of associations, so it is in the 
middle of a totally unrelated thread.  Please always start a new 
thread for a new subject.

Anne





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Re: [newbie] SSH Session tasks dying

2003-08-02 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:58:39PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
 In Mandrake I'm having trouble running tasks remotely.  I connect using SSH
 and I start a background task normally, with the  on the end and as long as
 I don't log off its fine.  If I log off, everything I started dies.  This
 does not happen in other flavors of linux and its driving me to madness!
 Madness I say.
 
 Thanks
 Jeff

When you exit a shell, don't the child processes die too?

Todd

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RE: [newbie] SSH Session tasks dying

2003-08-02 Thread Jeff
I'm trying to start a server and log off and leave it running on the server,
if there is a different way I can do it and leave the processes running
without being local to the box I'd like to know. 

Thanks
Jeff

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On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:58:39PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
 In Mandrake I'm having trouble running tasks remotely.  I connect using
SSH
 and I start a background task normally, with the  on the end and as long
as
 I don't log off its fine.  If I log off, everything I started dies.  This
 does not happen in other flavors of linux and its driving me to madness!
 Madness I say.
 
 Thanks
 Jeff

When you exit a shell, don't the child processes die too?

Todd

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Zinn-Chomsky 2004




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Re: [newbie] import messages from OE6 into Kmail

2003-08-02 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 02 August 2003 11:08 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 Hello all,
 I've been trying to import messages from OE6 into Kmail without success.
 The process just stopped after some times.
 Has anyone got any idea how to import it?
 I use the ToolImport menu from Kmail.

I would attempt to either export the OE6 mail into another format. If O

Failing that, I would try to import it into either an adware copy of Eudora or 
Netscape, or Mozilla. All of these will save mail into the proper standard 
for email.

Then I would just import the email into Kmail. You may do well with just 
placing the directories into Kmail, but oddities may occur.

One other way to do it is to sync your palm with Windows, then Sync it with 
KDE. Watch out with this one, as KPilot is still quite buggy for Mandrake 
users. 

Rob

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Re: [newbie] SSH Session tasks dying

2003-08-02 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 02 August 2003 09:58 pm, Jeff wrote:
 In Mandrake I'm having trouble running tasks remotely.  I connect using SSH
 and I start a background task normally, with the  on the end and as long
 as I don't log off its fine.  If I log off, everything I started dies. 
 This does not happen in other flavors of linux and its driving me to
 madness! Madness I say.

Have you tried running the tasks in background by using taskname ? 

But it sure is weird that they are dying off.

Rob

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