Texstar Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-12-01 Thread Anguo
On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 Texstar is going to be putting out a LiveCD based on
 mandrake 9.2 soon called PCLinuxOS.

I thought Texstar retired from packaging stuff for this 
release??

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread Melissa Reese
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Hi Charlie,

On Sunday, November 30, 2003, at 9:31:06 PM PST, you wrote:

Joe:

 I use Sylpheed. I send mail. I receive mail. I have an address
 book. It does some cool stuff like we mentioned before, like
 auto-snipping, auto-formatting, etc. What am I missing here?

Charlie:

 Nothing in fact. Just another persons opinion, and one who views the
 world through different filters.

I quite agree, and have never expressed anything but my own opinions
based upon my own experiences (and world view filters, of course :-)).

 I have a friend who is a dedicated windows user who says that the
 bat is not for him doesn't do anything more than what he likes,
 which happens to be outlook and outlook excuse.

Indeed...for many, O/OE is all they want or need. Obviously, you for
your own reasons, and me for mine, have decided that O/OE are not for
us. Nothing inherently wrong with any of our choices, and I've never
tried to infer anything of the sort.

 Never having used the bat, and at the risk of being shown what is so
 mind blowing about it, I would imagine hyperbole has been applied
 where it would better apply to Mandrake Linux, KDE, Ayers Rock or
 the Canadian Rockies and other wonders of the world.

You're free to imagine all the hyperbole you wish to, but until you
actually have experience with whatever someone else is expressing an
opinion about, imagining is all you really have, no? Whatever might
blow your mind - or not - is based entirely upon the filters you, and
you alone, see the world through...even if it's based on incomplete
information. How you gather your information upon which to base your
opinions is, again, entirely up to you.

I base my opinions about email clients or any other type of software
on my own personal experiences...nothing more, nothing less. Before I
had any experience with Linux and its email clients, I had no opinions
whatsoever about them, because I had no actual experience upon which
to form a comparative opinion. Now I do, and so I express my opinions.
Joe asked a sincere question or two, and I did my best to give him a
sincere answer.

I realize this is a list about Mandrake/Linux, and all things
associated, but isn't it also about each of us trying to make our
computers *work for us*, whatever that means? I only have loyalty to
any bit of software if *I* feel it deserves my loyalty. If/when I ever
come across an email client that *I* feel is more useful to *me* than
The Bat!, I'll adjust my loyalties in a nanosecond, without any
regrets.  That hasn't happened yet.  :-)

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Re: [newbie] bins

2003-12-01 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:16:44 +1300


bins is a gallery program.  Very nicely makes an html with 3 choices
of size on each pic.  Best I've found for an album on the site,
although I'm looking at gallery since I can't seem to get bins
working with 9.2.

Lee


 bins? What do you mean there? Binaries? Im lost.
 
 Lee Wiggers wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried to use bins on 9.2?
 
 Maybe someone can tell me what the heck this means:
 
 /usr/bin/perl: relocation error:
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Imag
 e/M agick/Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick
 
 
 TIA
 
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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread John Richard Smith
Melissa Reese wrote:

When you mention the computer allowing us more time to enjoy our
passions and pastimes, I have to wonder instead how spending time in
front of computers has *become* many people's passion/pastime, and has
in fact *replaced* the time formerly spent pursuing more active
passions and pastimes in the real world as opposed to the virtual
world (yes, there is reality in cyber-space, but it's of a different
sort).
Sure can agree with that . I have a passion for Angling and spend a 
fair
amount of my, not really spare, time in persuit of it, but I don't
really feel offering some of my valuable time helping myself and 
others
to install and run what  in essence is open source software too much
hardship. It works because people do offer their valuable time, 
free of
charge, to one and all. Is offering one's valuable time too much of a
price to pay. Well, it depends on the personal circumstances of 
each and
every one of us . You must make your decision, as I make mine, and yes
sometimes I do feel as though I spend too much of my time in front 
of a
computer screen, but the solution is simple, go do something else if
that is what you want, because it's your choice, as it is mine.

John

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Re: [newbie] bins

2003-12-01 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:05:27 -0500
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:16:44 +1300
 
 
 bins is a gallery program.  Very nicely makes an html with 3
 choices of size on each pic.  Best I've found for an album on the
 site, although I'm looking at gallery since I can't seem to get
 bins working with 9.2.
 
 Lee
 
 
  bins? What do you mean there? Binaries? Im lost.
  
  Lee Wiggers wrote:
  
  Has anyone tried to use bins on 9.2?
  
  Maybe someone can tell me what the heck this means:
  
  /usr/bin/perl: relocation error:
  /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Im
  ag e/M agick/Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick
  
  
  TIA
  
  Lee
  

  
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stimulate the brain cells.

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread et
taken to the OT list, since I think this is not going to help bring more folks 
to Mandrake-linux, overall 
maybe you would join this thread over there?
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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:14:05 -0800
Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An answer to a question like yours would usually have to start with
 let me count the ways..., or where do I begin?, but then I would
 have to consider just how deeply I care to explain things in order to
 let someone who has never looked at the program understand what's
 really possible. In most cases, after trying to figure out how to
 answer a question like yours, which seems so simple on the surface,
 I'm left wishing I could just say why not try it yourself?.

That's where it ends. To try it, I'd need to use Windows, and to use Windows,
I'd need to throw my principles out the, uh, window :-D

The thing is, Windows may work fine for you, I'm bettin' you keep yerself
relatively virus-free and maybe it's even stable. Problem is, for me anyway, I'd
be using a product made by people who are a bunch of criminal thugs who want
nothing less than to put the free Internet under their thumb and have said as
much.

Just me, but one app would never *ever* lead me back to using Windows; it would
have to mean my family's livelihood or something before I would even touch it.

While I understand (somewhat better now) and respect your loyalty to The Bat!, I
would seriously suggest doing some reading on exactly what it is you are using,
ie. Windows, and the people that run that show.

Stragely enough, there's links to said reading on my site... ;-)

The best is this, though, which I haven't linked to yet:

http://www.opensource.org/halloween/

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Re: Texstar Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-12-01 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 01 December 2003 02:36 am, Anguo wrote:
 On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
  Texstar is going to be putting out a LiveCD based on
  mandrake 9.2 soon called PCLinuxOS.

 I thought Texstar retired from packaging stuff for this
 release??

He is not making packages for 9.2 that are distributed as enhancements to 9.2.  
He is instead putting his efforts into making a LiveCD like Knoppix that is 
based on Mandrake 9.2.  He should be releasing his preview4 today as a matter 
of fact.

Watch here for more info
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modloadname=Forumsfile=viewforumforum=53
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 wireless usb

2003-12-01 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 4:45 am, Teilhard Knight wrote:
SNIP

 Thanks a lot, Derek. It seems everything is set now. I still do not get
 into Internet, though. First, as you said, iwconfig gives:
 
 wlan0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:2WIRE193 Nickname:castillo.nuthouse.nut
 Mode:Managed Channel:6 Access Point: 00:0D:72:17:AA:E9

 Bit Rate=11Mb/s

 RTS thr=1536 B Fragment thr=1536 B

 Encryption key:9442-9454-75 Security mode:open

 Power Management:off

 Link Quality:0 Signal level:100 Noise level:0

 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0

 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0


The fact that we can see the MAC address of your Wireless Access point tells 
us that the wireless link is working.
However Link Quality :0 usually means that the encryption key is wrong.
It could be your key is actually an ASCII string even though it looks like a 
number. Try with 
WIRELESS_ENC_KEY=s:9442945475

If that does not help you can confirm if the problem is with the encryption 
key by disabling encryption in the router and Linux client.

You can test if the link is working with ping
ping 172.16.1.34
will test your local interface

ping 172.16.0.1
will test the wireless link to your router

 

 I wrote the two lines you mention in blacklist.

 I guess the problem is in my ifcfg-wlan0 file. I worte it as:

 %%

 DEVICE=wlan0

 BOOTPROTO=static

 IPADDR=172.16.1.34

 NETMASK=255.255.0.0

 NETWORK=172.16.0.1

this should be
NETWORK=172.16.0.0


 ONBOOT=yes

 KEY=94:42:94:54:75
It should really be
WIRELESS_ENC_KEY= 94:42:94:54:75
but from the output above it is clear it has accepted what you put.


 WIRELESS_RATE=11M

 WIRELESS_MODE=managed

 WIRELESS_ESSID=2WIRE193

 %%

 Note that the line giving the value of  BROADCAST is absent, I simply could
 not figure out what to put there.
BROADCAST= 172.16.0.255


 Only thing to mention is that my wireless modem is a router too. I then
 wrote everything as if the adaptor saw an static configuration. Although
 the external IP may vary (dynamic account), the internal IP's are always
 the same.

 For NETWORK, I wrote the router address, and also for NETMASK, the router
 NETMASK, the IPADDR is the internal one. For the WIRELESS_MODE, I would
 have written: infrastructure, but in your web example you select
 managed, so, perhaps it is not what I am thinking.
The driver understands two modes 'Managed' for use with a wireless access 
point, and 'Ad-hoc'  for peer to peer networking without an access point.



 Thanks so much for helping me with this.

 Teilhard.

no problem

derek

BTW: If you also have an Ethernet on this computer, then you need to tell it 
which interface to use for internet access. To do that edit 
/etc/sysconfig/network and insert the line
GATEWAYDEV=wlan0
and it might also help if you declare your router to be a gateway
GATEWAY=172.16.0.1
(assuming that is the address of your router)

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2

2003-12-01 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 4:45 am, Teilhard Knight wrote:
snip
 iwconfig gives:
 
 wlan0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:2WIRE193 Nickname:castillo.nuthouse.nut
 Mode:Managed Channel:6 Access Point: 00:0D:72:17:AA:E9


 DEVICE=wlan0

 IPADDR=172.16.1.34

 NETWORK=172.16.0.1


 For NETWORK, I wrote the router address, and also for NETMASK, the router
 NETMASK, the IPADDR is the internal one. For the WIRELESS_MODE, I would
 have written: infrastructure, but in your web example you select
 managed, so, perhaps it is not what I am thinking.

 Thanks so much for helping me with this.

 Teilhard.

Hold on. I just realised something.
You are using Class B addressing in this network.
In that case the broadcast address I gave you is wrong. It should be
BROADCAST=172.16.255.255

derek


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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:42:57 +
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The easy way to install it is to add my site as a source and then urpmi
 xfce4.

I think you posted this before, but I can't find it now, what would be the path
for urpmi.addmedia, ie. the complete command?

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Re: [newbie] bins

2003-12-01 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:25:52 -0500
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe someone can tell me what the heck this means:
 
 /usr/bin/perl: relocation error:
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Image/M
 agick/Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick


Simply it means that it does not work with the version of ImageMagick with which it 
was built.

I have a fix for you, though.

Dl and install the following rpms using these links

http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/ImageMagick-5.5.7.13-1.1plf.cae.i586.rpm
http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/ibMagick5.5.7-5.5.7.13-1.1plf.cae.i586.rpm
http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/perl-Magick-5.5.7.13-1.1plf.cae.i586.rpm

As you note I always build IM as plf so you may have some missing depends which you 
will need to install as I have not decided, as yet, whether to add them to my hdlist 
for urpmi.

If you use mozplugger you will also need to install
http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozplugger-1.3.0-8mdk.i586.rpm


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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:47:33 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think you posted this before, but I can't find it now, what would be the path
 for urpmi.addmedia, ie. the complete command?

 urpmi.addmedia eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/ with hdlist.cz

or you can use synthesis.hdlist

and...duh the command and path is given on the site (-;


AND this can also serve as an Announcement.

I have, this morning uploaded all mdk and plf rpms for

 *** gstreamer/gstreamer-plugins-0.6.4

 *** mplayer-1.0.0.pre2

 *** xine-lib-1-0.rc2

At the moment the rpms are available if using urpmi as I have not yet taken the time 
to add include them in the index.html for the /9.2 page.



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[newbie] I think I was booted from list.

2003-12-01 Thread rmoore51
Hi. I think I got booted from list. I went away and mailbox got backed 
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Re: Texstar Re: [newbie] OT: need advice on notebook

2003-12-01 Thread Anguo
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 7:41 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:

  I thought Texstar retired from packaging stuff for this
  release??

 He is not making packages for 9.2 that are distributed as
 enhancements to 9.2. He is instead putting his efforts
 into making a LiveCD like Knoppix that is based on
 Mandrake 9.2.  He should be releasing his preview4 today
 as a matter of fact.

 Watch here for more info
 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modloadname
=Forumsfile=viewforumforum=53

Cool. :-)

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Re:[OT] Dr Who

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 30 November 2003 11:18 am, Dennis Myers wrote:

DM  Faulty Towers and Benny Hill were absolutely great, Dr. Who is a
 classic.  US DM  used to have a few really good programs but anymore all I
 watch is Discovery DM  and Animal Planet. : )

Benny Hill - man, that brings back (good!) memories...

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When she isn't upright, she's Grand...  :-)

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Re: [newbie] reboots and fscking or reiserfscking

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 30 November 2003 10:29 am, Terence J. Golightly wrote:
TJ  List,
TJ
TJ  Recently, I've been forced to repeatedly reboot my machine using the
TJ  ALTSysRq r,s,e,i,u,b sequence (opera is locking up but thats another
TJ  post).  When linux is loading, I am duly prompted to type in a capital Y
TJ  to tell linux to verify my file systems on disk.  I get the a simple
TJ  message that it tested the root file system and moves on. I am using the
TJ  reiser file system on all my partitions.

Terry, there was a thread on this before, and somehow I'm thinking that if 
there is a problem, a filecheck is -automatically- done, and bypassed if you 
press y.

Somebody else needs to step in here and verify that though - I can't remember 
all the sordid details.

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Re: [newbie] Re:[OT] Dr Who

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 30 November 2003 11:36 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

H.  Egad, I still think this initials thing looks daft, Darky:(

Hmm, I'll have to think it over then...

H.  Anywhere one would be able to find that in archives or DVD somewhere?
H.
H.  Good luck,
H.  HarM

Dunno. I've got the first 6 episodes on VHS tape from Columbia House, I 
think...

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:27:12 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and...duh the command and path is given on the site (-;

/lowers head in shame

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Re: [newbie] I think I was booted from list.

2003-12-01 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 01 December 2003 09:03 am, rmoore51 wrote:
 Hi. I think I got booted from list. I went away and mailbox got backed
 up and bounced email. I want back on list. I NEED this list.

Russ:
There was some sort of a messup about two weeks ago that resulted in a lot of 
members being dropped. If you haven't already done it, send an email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject subscribe newbie, and all should 
be well again.
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Re: [newbie] Multi-Boot Set-up (for the nth time probably)

2003-12-01 Thread Johan
On Monday 01 December 2003 01:06, Russ wrote:
 Hi All  Johan,

 I specifically mentioned you Johan because I see in another email
 that you are doing what I think I want to.

snip

 I have XP home edition on an 80gig HD right now.

 This is what I want to do:

 I am going to get another HD (160 or 120)

 I want to run XP, Win98, MDK9.2, SUSE, Debian, RH/Fedora, and I would
 like to try BSD too (don't know anything about this one so I might
 nix it). I have never used anything but Mandrake so I wanted to
 branch out and play

snip

 Thanks
 Russ

Ok you may ask 10 different people and get 10 different answers.
All of them will work because they probably use it.
**
wWth discs as large as that why share partitions.
I have seen traffic on some list people sharing /boot between 
distro's..wel not being a expert I still like my coffee in one cup and 
my tea in another...the choice is yours.
My suggestions
Confine every distro in its own area.
You want to play with other distro's this will make it safer.
Sizes with your large discs...I have no clue...in my case the /boot is 
larger than home. I just work outqty of distro's on available space.
See how much I pack in 40G...remember this is not production 
systems...just playing around.
Only partition to share is *swap*
I am used to 40gigs...here is my drive 1
Disk /dev/hde: 40.0 GB, 40027029504 bytes
   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hde1   * 1  1020   8193118+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hde2  1021  4866  30892995f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hde5  1021  1833   6530391   83  Linux
/dev/hde6  1834  2244   3301326   83  Linux
/dev/hde7  2245  2856   4915858+  83  Linux
/dev/hde8  2857  3468   4915858+  83  Linux
/dev/hde9  3469  4080   4915858+  83  Linux
/dev/hde10 4081  4782   5638783+  83  Linux
/dev/hde11 4783  4866674698+  82  Linux swap
hde1   =  win 98
hde5/6 = Redhat 9.0   =  /  /home
hde7/8 = Suse 9.0   = /  /home
hde9/10  = Mandrake 9.2   =  /  /home
hde11   =   swap for all distro's.

Here is my second drive...
Disk /dev/hdg: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdg1   * 1  1275  102414067  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdg2  1276  4998  29904997+   f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdg5  1276  2550  10241406b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdg6  2551  3825  10241406b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdg7  3826  4424   4811436b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdg8  4425  4998   4610623+  83  Linux
hdg1 =  XP
hdg5/6/7   =  vfat no os's just store space between systems.
hdg8  =  linux ext3  =  use for backup with rsync

I do not know how important Xp is for you but I would make it drive 2 
and do all the experimenting on drive 1 that will keep your XP mbr  
the rest safe (should murphy's law strike you can just plug out drive 1 
and xp will go)  untill you are confident to mix it with linux.

Ok to keep this within limits I will take a rest here.
Feel free to ask again
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[newbie] Lost my KDE config tool

2003-12-01 Thread Alexandre Aractingi
Hi all,
I asked my question on the KDE ml, but it seems more like a mdk-related problem...
I use mdk 9.2 with KDE 3.1, and somehow I lost the config tool. If I right-click on 
the desktop and select configure, nothing happens. When I launch Konqueror and go to 
tools- configure, nothing happens. Ditto if I right-click on the task-bar and select 
configure...
Besides, if I double-click on a desktop shortcut, it doesn't get opened with Konqueror 
anymore, it just pops up a Cervisia error complaining that the file is not a CVS file 
:-(
Same thing happens if I log-in as a different user... Did I totally mess up my KDE 
config?
Thanks for any hint,
Alex

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Re: [newbie] Re:[OT] Dr Who

2003-12-01 Thread aron
On Monday 01 December 2003 06:14 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Sunday 30 November 2003 11:18 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 DM  Faulty Towers and Benny Hill were absolutely great, Dr. Who is a
  classic.  US DM  used to have a few really good programs but anymore all
  I watch is Discovery DM  and Animal Planet. : )

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[newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter

This doesn't seem right to me...

On my 9.1 system, 
urpmi --auto-select -a returns:

One of the following packages is needed:
 1- NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk.i586
 2- NVIDIA_kernel-enterprise-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk.i586
 3- NVIDIA_kernel-smp-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk.i586
 4- NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496.i586
What is your choice? (1-4)

I've been running the default kernel from the beginning and all hardware
is the same as when I originally installed.
What would cause any of these packages to be needed? 
My video card is ATI

Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] Boot loader doesn't work

2003-12-01 Thread Ernesto Maldonado
There's no error messages. Just I restart iMac and it
loads MacOS 9, not Linux or Linux Loader.

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[newbie] Problem with SCSI Controller

2003-12-01 Thread Yvan
Hello group,

my PC has a SCSI-Controller Tekram DC390/AM53C974 V2.0f 2000-12-20.

I use the controller only when booting Windows, I don't use it with
Mandrake. But Mandrake doesn't boot because of this controller.

During booting I always got the following message:

...
scsi: aborting command due to timeout : pid , scsi 1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
inquiry 00 00 00 ff 00
SCSI host 1 abort (pid 7) timeout resetting
...

this messages repeats all over again and Mandrake refuses to go further in
the boot process.

It's even more disturbing as I don't use this controller under Mandrake, but
I can't remove it because I need it for windows.

I am able to boot with an older kernel.

Is there any way I can tell Mandrake just to don't care about this
SCSI-controller?

Any help appreciated

Thank you
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Re: [newbie] Re:[OT] Dr Who

2003-12-01 Thread idea.list2
I'm not really a Dr.Who fan, however, I feel I must impart
this to you genuine fans - 'Tardis' is 'Sid Rat'; spelt
backwards.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:40:20 -0600
C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been running the default kernel from the beginning and all hardware
 is the same as when I originally installed.
 What would cause any of these packages to be needed? 

IIRC, running urpmi --auto-select will return *all* packages which are newer
than the ones currently installed, comparing what's available to everything on
your system.

If you only want packages which are updates, then, of course:

urpmi --update --auto-select

Otherwise you will upgrade every package on your system.

It's kinda like apt-get --dist-upgrade on Debian.

Check man urpmi for command line switches to exclude certain media/packages from
the auto-select.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 01 December 2003 11:40 am, C. Tresenriter wrote:
 This doesn't seem right to me...

 On my 9.1 system,
 urpmi --auto-select -a returns:

 One of the following packages is needed:
  1- NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk.i586
  2- NVIDIA_kernel-enterprise-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk.i586
  3- NVIDIA_kernel-smp-2.4.21.0.13mdk-4321-3mdk.i586
  4- NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496.i586
 What is your choice? (1-4)

 I've been running the default kernel from the beginning and all hardware
 is the same as when I originally installed.
 What would cause any of these packages to be needed?
 My video card is ATI

Because one of the packages that you are trying to install was built with an 
NVIDIA kernel, even though you don't have an NVIDIA card.  You need to check 
your sources to see where you are pulling files from, a lot of the Texstar 
packages require NVIDIA kernel, IIRC.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:51:59 -0500
J wrote:

|On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:40:20 -0600
|C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| I've been running the default kernel from the beginning and all
|hardware is the same as when I originally installed.
| What would cause any of these packages to be needed? 
|
|IIRC, running urpmi --auto-select will return *all* packages which are
|newer than the ones currently installed, comparing what's available to
|everything on your system.
|
|If you only want packages which are updates, then, of course:
|
|urpmi --update --auto-select
|
|Otherwise you will upgrade every package on your system.
|
|It's kinda like apt-get --dist-upgrade on Debian.
|
|Check man urpmi for command line switches to exclude certain
|media/packages from the auto-select.



Thanks for the clarification
Can't see any *need* for a different kernel, especially anything
nvidia. I haven't used the --update option in the past but urpmi never 
wanted to install a different kernel.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:23 -0500
BP wrote:

|Because one of the packages that you are trying to install was built
|with an NVIDIA kernel, even though you don't have an NVIDIA card.  You
|need to check your sources to see where you are pulling files from, a
|lot of the Texstar packages require NVIDIA kernel, IIRC.


Texstar *is* one of my sources. So one of those is a package I *should*
install? How do I decide which one - does it matter, or since texstar is
one of my sources, should I choose his package? (2.4.21.0.25.2tex)
My kernel is 2.4.21-0.13mdk - should the package number match the kernel
version? I'm not using either enterprise or smp kernels - the other two
choices.

Other than that I have main,contrib, plf and updates along with the
CDs and a local directory for downloaded RPMs

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 01 December 2003 01:25 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:23 -0500

 BP wrote:
 |Because one of the packages that you are trying to install was built
 |with an NVIDIA kernel, even though you don't have an NVIDIA card.  You
 |need to check your sources to see where you are pulling files from, a
 |lot of the Texstar packages require NVIDIA kernel, IIRC.

 Texstar *is* one of my sources. So one of those is a package I *should*
 install? How do I decide which one - does it matter, or since texstar is
 one of my sources, should I choose his package? (2.4.21.0.25.2tex)
 My kernel is 2.4.21-0.13mdk - should the package number match the kernel
 version? I'm not using either enterprise or smp kernels - the other two
 choices.

 Other than that I have main,contrib, plf and updates along with the
 CDs and a local directory for downloaded RPMs

That is really a phantom dependency created when someone built an RPM with the 
didn't strip them properly.  If you don't have an nvidia card, you can safely 
ignore this dependency and install the packages anyway.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 errormkbootdisk failed

2003-12-01 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 01 December 2003 01:23 pm, Harvey Holcomb wrote:
 My computer has dual Pentium II's 300Mh with 228Meg of
 RAM
 I have 3 disk drives :
  hda WDC 1G  (Win98)
  hdc Maxtor 40G  (hdc3 Mdk 9.1 - hdc5 Debian)
  hdd Maxtor 20G  (hdd2 Mdk 9.1)

 I am running Max Blast 3 because of Bios limitations.
 This may be a factor since this seems to take over the
 mbr and does not live happily with LILO as an earlier
 version did.

Well, since you are not using Windows on one of the larger disks, you should 
be able to skip Maxblast and just let Linux manage the disk.  Even if the 
BIOS doesn't see the whole disk, Linux should see it properly and allow you 
to install.  You may need to make sure LILO is installed below the BIOS 
limitation, and you may have better luck with Grub as the bootloader in this 
instance.

 I attempted to install Mdk 9.2 on hdc3. When I
 attempted to make a boot disk (which is the way I
 reach Mkd 9.1 and Debian) I got an error message An
 error occured mkbootdisk failed.

I think you just want a floppy with the lilo bootsector installed on it and 
not the full blown bootdisk with kernel and all.
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Re: [newbie] Problem with SCSI Controller

2003-12-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 3:33 pm, Yvan wrote:
 Hello group,

 my PC has a SCSI-Controller Tekram DC390/AM53C974 V2.0f
 2000-12-20.

 I use the controller only when booting Windows, I don't use it with
 Mandrake. But Mandrake doesn't boot because of this controller.

Certainly 9.1 has no problem with the DC390 - I have it.

 During booting I always got the following message:

 ...
 scsi: aborting command due to timeout : pid , scsi 1, channel 0, id
 0, lun 0 inquiry 00 00 00 ff 00
 SCSI host 1 abort (pid 7) timeout resetting
 ...

Could be wrong, but it seems to me that it's not the controller that's 
the problem, but the unit you have connected to it.  Try powering 
down that unit if you can.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 01 December 2003 01:25 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:23 -0500

 BP wrote:
 |Because one of the packages that you are trying to install was built
 |with an NVIDIA kernel, even though you don't have an NVIDIA card.  You
 |need to check your sources to see where you are pulling files from, a
 |lot of the Texstar packages require NVIDIA kernel, IIRC.

 Texstar *is* one of my sources. So one of those is a package I *should*
 install? How do I decide which one - does it matter, or since texstar is
 one of my sources, should I choose his package? (2.4.21.0.25.2tex)
 My kernel is 2.4.21-0.13mdk - should the package number match the kernel
 version? I'm not using either enterprise or smp kernels - the other two
 choices.

Well, the choice is up to you but the standard Mandrake 9.1 kernel is up to 
2.4.21-0.25mdk, IIRC so that would match with that package.  If you have not 
upgraded to this version yet, you may be missing some security updates that 
have been added to the kernel since 9.1 was rolled out.

The NVIDIA kernel is just the standard Mandrake kernel with Nvidia drivers 
added to it, so you should be able to run that version without any problems, 
you will not load the Nvidia module unless your modules.conf file tells the 
computer to load it and it won't if you have not installed the Nvidia 
drivers.

If you don't install that version, you will get several errors when trying to 
install some of Texstar's RPM's which means that you need to either force 
them or install that version of the kernel.

 Other than that I have main,contrib, plf and updates along with the
 CDs and a local directory for downloaded RPMs

I would exercise some caution about doing a blanket update with all of those 
sources selected, especially with plf, Textar and contrib.  There are 
probably a lot of packages that will conflict with one another, I am pretty 
sure that I have encountered conflicts between plf and some Texstar packages 
before as far as dependencies go.  I would be especially wary of contrib 
since you can't be sure how they were compiled or what version or dependents 
they have.

You may want to pick a smaller set of sources before doing the update or do it 
manually so that you can deal with issues as they arise.

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Re: [newbie] Problems getting mail from this list

2003-12-01 Thread John Richard Smith
Robert Golovniov wrote:

Hello Mandrake group,

 I  haven't  got  a single message from this list for about a week or
 so. Is something wrong on my side?
 

 

We have all had to resubscribe

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[newbie] Update won't Update-Again

2003-12-01 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hi all and thanks for all the help. 

However I'm still unable to update my installation of 9.2. Clicking on
the Mandrake Update Icon in software management still tells me:

You already have at least one update medium configured, but all
of them are currently disabled. You should run the Software
Media Manager to enable at least one (check it in the
enabled?column)

Then restart Mandrake Update.

When I checked the Software Media Manager, as before, all the update
media are checked enabled with the exception of update_source. If I
click on this and select update, then update_source once again I get the
following rpmdrake error message

Unable to update medium; it will be automatically disabled

Errors:
urpmi database locked
urpmi database locked
retrieve source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist filefound for medium update_source
problem reading synthesis file of medium update_source

I returned once again to the easy URPMI site and once again selected
alternative mirrors. This time I got the following


#  urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/mandrake/9.2
with hdlist.cz
unable to access hdlist file of update_source, medium ignored
added medium plf
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD1 (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD2 (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD (cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD (cdrom4).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD (cdrom7).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Sources CD1 (cdrom8).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]

Following this I attempted the update once again with the same results
listed above.

What am I doing wrong?? Can I simply continue to copy stuff from the
Easy URPMI site into a root terminal with impunity? I assume it must
have some effect on something.

I am truly at a complete loss.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:19:44 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The NVIDIA kernel is just the standard Mandrake kernel with Nvidia drivers 
 added to it, so you should be able to run that version without any problems, 
 you will not load the Nvidia module unless your modules.conf file tells the 
 computer to load it and it won't if you have not installed the Nvidia 
 drivers.

Once again, that is not a kernel. If you look at the size, it is 648K, the
kernel is over 20MB.

It is a driver module with the kernel version attached so you know which kernel
it goes with.

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 01 December 2003 12:20, JoeHill wrote:
 While I understand (somewhat better now) and respect your loyalty to The
 Bat!, I would seriously suggest doing some reading on exactly what it is
 you are using, ie. Windows, and the people that run that show.

You know, the mailer Calypso pulled me back to windows on some of my laptops 
on ocasions, until I found out it ran perfectly on wine.
Heheh, never touched it since I've gotten used to kmail on KDE3.x;)

Maybe the Bat'll run on wine too.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] bins

2003-12-01 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:11:33 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:25:52 -0500
 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maybe someone can tell me what the heck this means:
  
  /usr/bin/perl: relocation error:
  /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Ima
  ge/M agick/Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick
 
 
 Simply it means that it does not work with the version of
 ImageMagick with which it was built.
 
 I have a fix for you, though.
 
 Dl and install the following rpms using these links
 
 http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/ImageMagick-5.5.7.13-1.1plf.cae.i586.rpm
 http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/ibMagick5.5.7-5.5.7.13-1.1plf.cae.i586.rpm
 http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/perl-Magick-5.5.7.13-1.1plf.cae.i586.rpm
 
 As you note I always build IM as plf so you may have some missing
 depends which you will need to install as I have not decided, as
 yet, whether to add them to my hdlist for urpmi.
 
 If you use mozplugger you will also need to install
 http://www.eslrahc.com/9.2/mozplugger-1.3.0-8mdk.i586.rpm
 
 
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Thanks Charles,

I bumbled around after I got my head out of ..and figured it
out.  Could have been a first.

Appreciate your response.

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:23 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe the Bat'll run on wine too.

...or Crossover from Codeweavers.

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[newbie] God help us all...

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill

We'd like to have one of our operating systems in every car on Earth, said
Dick Brass, vice-president of Microsoft's automotive business unit. It's a
lofty goal.

'Dick Brass'?! Nice name...

http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,61412,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7

I'm writing a letter to Subaru *right now*!

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Re: [newbie] Update won't Update-Again

2003-12-01 Thread Jerry Barton
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:58:36 -0500
Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all and thanks for all the help. 
 
 However I'm still unable to update my installation of 9.2. Clicking on
 the Mandrake Update Icon in software management still tells me:

Open the Mandrake Control Center.  Go to Software Management.  Choose
Software Media Manager.
When this opens, highlight update_source and choose Remove then close
out of that.  Go to Mandrake Update.  It will tell you that it needs to
get a list of mirrors.  Click ok.  It'll bring up a list of valid
mirrors for you to choose.  This has always been my fallback when easy
urpmi update sources didn't work.  Let us know if that worked.

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[newbie] Route doesn't keep information...?

2003-12-01 Thread Eric Geater 11/26/03
Title: Route doesn't keep information...?






So I have restarted my Mandrake 9.2 box a couple of times, and have discovered that I have to manually reenter items lost in the route item. Is there a file that can keep this information, so I'm not forced to reenter these route statements every time I reboot?

Thanks!


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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 8:40 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:23 +0100

 H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Maybe the Bat'll run on wine too.

 ...or Crossover from Codeweavers.

If it's half as good as Melissa and Rikona say it is, it really should 
be ported.  It sounds as though it's a Kylix job, but since it is not 
open source - I think - we'll just have to wait for it.

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Re: [newbie] Update won't Update-Again

2003-12-01 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 01 Dec 2003 7:58 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi all and thanks for all the help.

 However I'm still unable to update my installation of 9.2. Clicking on
 the Mandrake Update Icon in software management still tells me:

 You already have at least one update medium configured, but all
 of them are currently disabled. You should run the Software
 Media Manager to enable at least one (check it in the
 enabled?column)

 Then restart Mandrake Update.

 When I checked the Software Media Manager, as before, all the update
 media are checked enabled with the exception of update_source. If I
 click on this and select update, then update_source once again I get the
 following rpmdrake error message

 Unable to update medium; it will be automatically disabled

 Errors:
 urpmi database locked
 urpmi database locked
 retrieve source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
 no hdlist filefound for medium update_source
 problem reading synthesis file of medium update_source

 I returned once again to the easy URPMI site and once again selected
 alternative mirrors. This time I got the following


 #  urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/mandrake/9.2
 with hdlist.cz

 What am I doing wrong?? Can I simply continue to copy stuff from the
 Easy URPMI site into a root terminal with impunity? I assume it must
 have some effect on something.

 I am truly at a complete loss.

 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That source is not an update source. It is a plf source. That is why it is 
called 'plf' (Penguin Liberation Front)

If you want an update source then use this one :-

urpmi.addmedia --update updates 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ with 
../base/hdlist.cz

(That command is all on one line)
Do not worry about it being a long way from you. It is a really fast mirror.

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Re: [newbie] Problems getting mail from this list

2003-12-01 Thread aron
On Monday 01 December 2003 10:31 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Robert Golovniov wrote:
 Hello Mandrake group,
 
   I  haven't  got  a single message from this list for about a week or
   so. Is something wrong on my side?

 We have all had to resubscribe

 John
Deodorant failure ? ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Problems getting mail from this list

2003-12-01 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:03 pm, many eyes noted that Robert Golovniov wrote:
 Hello Mandrake group,

   I  haven't  got  a single message from this list for about a week or
   so. Is something wrong on my side?

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[newbie] Dumb question

2003-12-01 Thread Teilhard Knight
How do you start/stop a network connection (Internet mainly) from a command
line?

Teilhard.


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Re: [newbie] Dumb question

2003-12-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 00:34, Teilhard Knight wrote:
 How do you start/stop a network connection (Internet mainly) from a command
 line?

 Teilhard.

As su/root:
ifconfig eth0 down  #depending on the ethernet card of course

or

service network stop to shut everything down.
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Re: [newbie] Dumb question

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 01 December 2003 06:34 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote:
TK  How do you start/stop a network connection (Internet mainly) from a
 command line?
TK
TK  Teilhard.

I'll tell you what they always tell me on this list; the only dumb question is 
the one not asked... :-)

Anyways, you can (as root/su) issue a:

ifdown eth0 (or whatever your card is)

or

service network stop

and (in case you need it) reversing does the opposite:

service network start (or restart)

ifup etho

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Re: [newbie] Update won't Update-Again

2003-12-01 Thread Langsley T Russell
OK, I think I followed your directions, Derek. The following is what was
downloaded.

urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/mandrake/9.2
with hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia --update updates
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ with 
../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia main
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with 
../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz

After doing the download I again tried to run the update in software
manager. Initially it said downloading urpmi... Then  I got the
following error message.

Fatal error
A fatal error occurred: urpmi database locked.

I'm assuming that if the urpmi database weren't, or hadn't, locked, I
would have been successful this time. 
How do I unlock urpmi database? Or is that even what I really need to
do?

Again thanks for all the help!

LTR  }}:{(
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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:19:44 -0500
BP wrote:
 
| Well, the choice is up to you but the standard Mandrake 9.1 kernel is
| up to 2.4.21-0.25mdk, IIRC so that would match with that package.  If
| you have not upgraded to this version yet, you may be missing some
| security updates that have been added to the kernel since 9.1 was
| rolled out.
| 
| If you don't install that version, you will get several errors when
| trying to install some of Texstar's RPM's which means that you need to
| either force them or install that version of the kernel.

Would 'urpmi kernel-2.3.21-0.25mdk' be a mistake?
If so, what would be the proper way to do it?
If I understand, what I want is to have a new kernel added as a choice
when LILO runs as opposed to replacing what's there now, yes?


| 
|  Other than that I have main,contrib, plf and updates along with the
|  CDs and a local directory for downloaded RPMs
 
| You may want to pick a smaller set of sources before doing the update
| or do it manually so that you can deal with issues as they arise.


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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:55:28 -0500
J wrote:

| On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:19:44 -0500
| Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| Once again, that is not a kernel. If you look at the size, it is 648K,
| the kernel is over 20MB.
| 
| It is a driver module with the kernel version attached so you know
| which kernel it goes with.

Got it... so I should go with the tex package *if* I install the proper
kernel first.

| 
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Re: [newbie] Update won't Update-Again

2003-12-01 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 02 Dec 2003 12:12 am, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 OK, I think I followed your directions, Derek. The following is what was
 downloaded.

 urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/mandrake/9.2
 with hdlist.cz
 urpmi.addmedia --update updates

 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/
 with ../base/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia main

 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPM
S with ../base/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia contrib

 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with
 ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz

 After doing the download I again tried to run the update in software
 manager. Initially it said downloading urpmi... Then  I got the
 following error message.

 Fatal error
 A fatal error occurred: urpmi database locked.

 I'm assuming that if the urpmi database weren't, or hadn't, locked, I
 would have been successful this time.
 How do I unlock urpmi database? Or is that even what I really need to
 do?

 Again thanks for all the help!

 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That source for plf seems bad It does not respond if you put the ftp address 
in a browser.
Remove your entry for plf with 
urpmi.removemedia plf
and try this one

urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/9.2 with 
hdlist.cz


The lock file is the hidden file /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK

You can just delete it.

You might also find it more informative if you do your updates from the 
command line instead of the GUI

urpmi.update updates  urpmi --update --auto-select

will do the trick.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:50:04 -0600
C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Got it... so I should go with the tex package *if* I install the proper
   kernel first.

Well, it's just the Nvidia driver, so you won't be using it anyway, but to be on
the safe side, ya I guess you would want to install the package that matches
your kernel version.

The only way you would ever *use* the Nvidia driver is if you specifically told
X to load it in your XF86Config, AFAIK.

I wonder if it's somehow linked with an updated version of XScreensaver or
something, as a dependency. Like Bryan said, that probably shouldn't be, looks
like someone made a bad move in building some package and built it against the
Nvidia drivers.

I would still investigate some way of skipping it altogether, since any apps you
are going to be running that require GL rendering are just going to use your ATI
driver, no?

Maybe just try this instead:

urpmi --media main --auto-select

then

urpmi --update --auto-select

*then*

urpmi --media contrib --auto-select

and see if this Nvidia thing still comes up.

Updating from main and update sources will give you all the big stuff anyway,
like all the newest KDE and Gnome packages, updated kernel (which there was
an advisory about today, BTW, for 9.1) etc.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 01 December 2003 07:18 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:

   Would 'urpmi kernel-2.3.21-0.25mdk' be a mistake?
   If so, what would be the proper way to do it?

Well, you could instead choose NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496.i586 which 
will give you the latest Mandrake Kernel along with the Nvidia module which 
will not load for you.  That way, no more issues about dependencies from the 
Texstar packages.

BTW, I am running Texstar's kernel without any problems.  I did not need it, I 
had already installed the NVIDIA 4496 drivers myself and compiled them for my 
own stock Mandrake kernel but it was the simplest way to avoid the dependency 
messages from Texstar's RPM's.

   If I understand, what I want is to have a new kernel added as a choice
   when LILO runs as opposed to replacing what's there now, yes?

Correct.  You will have to edit to make it the default choice, I think but you 
will simply have a new option.  Later, after you are comfortable with your 
choice, you may want to remove the -13.mdk kernel since you will probably not 
need it.

Keep in mind that if you have compiled any modules for your kernel, you will 
need to recompile those against the -25mdk kernel.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 01 December 2003 02:55 pm, JoeHill wrote:

 Once again, that is not a kernel. If you look at the size, it is 648K, the
 kernel is over 20MB.

 It is a driver module with the kernel version attached so you know which
 kernel it goes with.

Well, to tell you the truth, I never really looked at the filesize or file 
list, I had already installed and compiled the 4496 Nvidia driver for the 
stock -0.25mdk kernel and figured that installing Texstar's RPM couldn't do 
any worse than installing the plain driver.  It did prevent the dependency 
issues with his KDE packages, however.

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Re: [newbie] God help us all...

2003-12-01 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 01 December 2003 12:55 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 We'd like to have one of our operating systems in every car on Earth,
 said Dick Brass, vice-president of Microsoft's automotive business unit.
 It's a lofty goal.

 'Dick Brass'?! Nice name...

 http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,61412,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7

 I'm writing a letter to Subaru *right now*!

Please, spare us! Just what I need, a wireless hacker taking control of my car 
at 75 mph. Or a BSD at 90!

Microsoft should be banned from trying to operate outside the PC market.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 01 December 2003 08:08 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:50:04 -0600

 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Got it... so I should go with the tex package *if* I install the proper
  kernel first.

 Well, it's just the Nvidia driver, so you won't be using it anyway, but to
 be on the safe side, ya I guess you would want to install the package that
 matches your kernel version.

 The only way you would ever *use* the Nvidia driver is if you specifically
 told X to load it in your XF86Config, AFAIK.

Well, you also need to add a line to modules.conf.  Usually that is added 
automatically by the installer program, but otherwise it has to be added 
manually.  I am not certain if Texstar's RPM adds that line itself or not, my 
own file was not changed when I installed his RPM but I had already run the 
installer bin so it was there already.

 I wonder if it's somehow linked with an updated version of XScreensaver or
 something, as a dependency. Like Bryan said, that probably shouldn't be,
 looks like someone made a bad move in building some package and built it
 against the Nvidia drivers.

I am almost positive that the dependency is linked to the KDE packages on 
Texstar's site.  You can either force it, ignore deps or install the module 
even if you won't use it.  I don't think that you need to install the -025mdk 
kernel separately, it will come down as a dependency for the Texstar RPM that 
contains the Nvidia module.

When I ran the upgrade to KDE 3.14 from Texstar, I got some weird behavior 
linked to some of the Gnome RPM's, it ended up uninstalling X client and X 
server due to conflicts and I had to reinstall them afterward.  Nothing 
major, just weird.  Might be me however, I was just running a blanket upgrade 
for all packages on Texstar's repository.


 I would still investigate some way of skipping it altogether, since any
 apps you are going to be running that require GL rendering are just going
 to use your ATI driver, no?

Well, he could install it with the upgrade and then simply remove it, although 
I think that he would get the same dependency messages when trying to 
uninstall.


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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:08:58 -0500
J wrote:

 
| I would still investigate some way of skipping it altogether, since
| any apps you are going to be running that require GL rendering are
| just going to use your ATI driver, no?


Makes sense to me.


| 
| Maybe just try this instead:
| 
| urpmi --media main --auto-select
[.]

Hmmm... running the media separately presented no NVIDIA packages at
all, or any other packages for that matter!? ... not even the updated
kernel. Everything already installed... for each.

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:40 -0500
BP wrote:

Well, you could instead choose NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496.i586
which will give you the latest Mandrake Kernel along with the Nvidia
module which will not load for you.  That way, no more issues about
dependencies from the Texstar packages.

That's the one I meant. I'll give it a go.



| Keep in mind that if you have compiled any modules for your kernel,
| you will need to recompile those against the -25mdk kernel.


Ahh... I did compile a couple . I wonder what they
were. :-P  Guess I'll find out sooner or later, eh?

Thanks for the tips

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Re: [newbie] 9.2-xawtv nosound.

2003-12-01 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 8:14 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
 On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:59:23 +

 L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  xawtv works for me ok in 9.1 in the same machine. but in 9.2 I don't
  get any sound. Whether it has something to do with alsa sound which is
  default in 9.2. if so how to solve it.
  Or it has anything to do with arts. If so how to solve it.

 My first thought is to open aumix and check
 the Line and/or Line1 volume levels.
 If this doesn't work, could you give us some information on the type of
 tv card, sound card, desktop you're using, etc?
Mine is pixelview play TV Pak tuner card in a system of Athlon 2400+ on A7N8X 
deluxe MB with 256 MB ram,Asus V9180SE Graphics card with inbuilt nvidia 
sound ac97 compatible.
I have both mandrake 91. and 9.2. Xawtv works OK both with OSS. I tried with 
alsa which was default in 9.2. I checked aumix, kmix and alsa mixer. But 
Xawtv didn't give sound. Now with OSS drivers selected kde control 
center|sound, it works. What is to be done with alsa to work

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[newbie] OT texstars pclinuxos live cd

2003-12-01 Thread racerpup2
I downloaded and checked out Texstars live cd..it is based on mandrake
and I was really impressed.. would love to have installed it on Hard
drive so I could really see what it can do.

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-12-01 Thread sheridan
At 19:46 30/11/03 -0800, Melissa Reese wrote:
When desktop computers were first coming into wider usage, most people
were saying what a great savings of paper and time these machines
represented for our lives, but as we now know, the use of paper
products has multiplied severalfold, and we spend much more of our
lives sitting in front of computers in place of doing other things.
   There are certain reasons for that though (the paper issue) - I know 
that I don't use as much paper as I used to, but then I don't have this 
curious obsession that some people do with printing. An example of this was 
at the most recent office I worked in when, instead of forwarding an email 
to me someone printed out the email and handed it to me (in a tiny, barely 
readable font, to boot). When business gets used to burning CDs (or DVDs) 
as backups, instead of making endless printout and photocopies then the 
paperless office might finally arrive...

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Re: [newbie] auto-select wants to install an nvidia kernel

2003-12-01 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:40 -0500
BP wrote:

| On Monday 01 December 2003 07:18 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
| 
|  Would 'urpmi kernel-2.3.21-0.25mdk' be a mistake?
|  If so, what would be the proper way to do it?
| 
| Well, you could instead choose
| NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496.i586 which will give you the
| latest Mandrake Kernel along with the Nvidia module which will not
| load for you.  That way, no more issues about dependencies from the
| Texstar packages.
| 

Oops!
#urpmi NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496.i586

Preparing...### ##
1:NVIDIA_kernel ##
modprobe: Can't locate module nvidia

Failed to install nvidia.o

error: execution of %post scriptlet from
NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.21.0.25.2tex-4496 failed, exit status 1




urpmq kernel returns a number of choices, 2.4.21.0.13mdk along with smp,
enterprise and secure versions... plus 2.4.21.0.25mdk with the same
alternatives besides the minor # 18 secure version.
Where can I read up on smp and secure versions?
The kernel link at twiki didn't seem to have the info.

I'm guessing the naming conventions are Mdk specific?

I understand enterprise would be used for 1G + RAM
beyond that I'm in the dark.

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[newbie] needed paid support

2003-12-01 Thread Anguo

Hello,

Despite my best efforts at doing some research and asking 
questions, I still failed to setup a few important things 
on my computer. 
I am getting short of time too.

I have therefore purchased some support units and created a 
few incidents at mandrake expert. 

I need some expert support on the two following items:

73630 winmodem setup
73674 networking two mandrake computers

Later on, I will also need a real expert on file system to 
recover a badly corrupted FS. 

I know many of you, great girls and guys, are happy to 
provide support for free but I currently prefer the 
mandrake expert format, where I can have all my incidents 
stored in one place and the access to experts dedicated to 
see me through one problem. 

Even though I am not as wealthy as Bill Gates or Linus 
Torvald, I still have more money than time, so if some of 
you believe that the standard price for one incident is not 
a fair retribution for your help on one topic, let me know 
*beforehand* how much you'd think is fair and we can 
arrange a payment through paypal or something else. That's 
especially true for FS problem: the solution may be a long 
pain-staking process that can span many hours over many 
weeks.

Write to me if you're really knowledgeable or better: pick 
up the aforementionned mandrake expert incidents.

thanks,

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-12-01 Thread Eric Huff
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:14 +
bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 either no-ones posting, the lists are down, or i've been unsubbed
 if this shows on either list can some kind soul mail me direct to
 let me know

I resubbed you on newbie.  You'll need to do it on expert.

See http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NeWs for what happened.

Also, you can't cross post:  the sympa server can't handle it.  You
need to post 2 messages...

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-12-01 Thread bascule
thanks eric,
i resubbed on expert,
thanks to those who replied direct as well

bascule

On Tuesday 02 Dec 2003 3:38 am, Eric Huff wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:14 +

 bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  either no-ones posting, the lists are down, or i've been unsubbed
  if this shows on either list can some kind soul mail me direct to
  let me know

 I resubbed you on newbie.  You'll need to do it on expert.

 See http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NeWs for what happened.

 Also, you can't cross post:  the sympa server can't handle it.  You
 need to post 2 messages...

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Re: [newbie] God help us all...

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 01 December 2003 08:23 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:

RB  Microsoft should be banned from trying to operate outside the PC market.

Hells Bells, they should be banned from *any* market... :-)

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[newbie] Tribes 2 - no sound under 9.2?

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Anyone got Tribes 2 working with sound under v9.2? Don't have any here with my 
Soyo Dragon Plus MBs' onboard sound.

Other sound software works great - XMMS, system sounds, etc, etc,...

Thanks!

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[newbie] Are you ready for a MOVE?

2003-12-01 Thread Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner
[from Mandrake-Linux Dot Com]

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mandrakemove/

~~
The MandrakeMove Download Edition is a new product based on Mandrake Linux 9.2 
which provides a complete personal desktop operating system on a bootable CD. 
With MandrakeMove, bring your Mandrake Linux system everywhere: demo it, use 
it to connect to the Internet, listen to MP3s, watch DivX movies -- the 
possibilities are endless! In addition, the MandrakeMove Boxed Edition 
provides the ability to save configuration and personal data to a USB key.

There's no need to install a system before using it: MandrakeMove runs on the 
fly directly from a CD on any supported PC. 
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Re: [newbie] Are you ready for a MOVE?

2003-12-01 Thread Brandon Bertelsen
Wow, is all I can say... I'm trying it tonight

-- Original Message --
From: Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:43:53 +0100

[from Mandrake-Linux Dot Com]

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mandrakemove/

~~
The MandrakeMove Download Edition is a new product based on Mandrake Linux 9.2 
which provides a complete personal desktop operating system on a bootable CD. 
With MandrakeMove, bring your Mandrake Linux system everywhere: demo it, use 
it to connect to the Internet, listen to MP3s, watch DivX movies -- the 
possibilities are endless! In addition, the MandrakeMove Boxed Edition 
provides the ability to save configuration and personal data to a USB key.

There's no need to install a system before using it: MandrakeMove runs on the 
fly directly from a CD on any supported PC. 
~~

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[newbie] Named question...

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
When I shutdown under v9.2, I get a failed message when it comes to named. 
It actually gives 3 failed messages at different times. The shutdown 
continues okay, but I've not had these messages under any other version.

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] needed paid support

2003-12-01 Thread aronsmith
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 19:25, Anguo wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Despite my best efforts at doing some research and asking 
 questions, I still failed to setup a few important things 
 on my computer. 
 I am getting short of time too.
 
 I have therefore purchased some support units and created a 
 few incidents at mandrake expert. 
 
 I need some expert support on the two following items:
 
 73630 winmodem setup
 73674 networking two mandrake computers
 
 Later on, I will also need a real expert on file system to 
 recover a badly corrupted FS. 
 
 I know many of you, great girls and guys, are happy to 
 provide support for free but I currently prefer the 
 mandrake expert format, where I can have all my incidents 
 stored in one place and the access to experts dedicated to 
 see me through one problem. 
 
 Even though I am not as wealthy as Bill Gates or Linus 
 Torvald, I still have more money than time, so if some of 
 you believe that the standard price for one incident is not 
 a fair retribution for your help on one topic, let me know 
 *beforehand* how much you'd think is fair and we can 
 arrange a payment through paypal or something else. That's 
 especially true for FS problem: the solution may be a long 
 pain-staking process that can span many hours over many 
 weeks.
 
 Write to me if you're really knowledgeable or better: pick 
 up the aforementionned mandrake expert incidents.
 
 thanks,
 
 Anguo
payment = we get to pick on you
 
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Tribes 2 - no sound under 9.2?

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 01 December 2003 11:24 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
RJ  Anyone got Tribes 2 working with sound under v9.2? Don't have any here
 with my RJ  Soyo Dragon Plus MBs' onboard sound.
RJ
RJ  Other sound software works great - XMMS, system sounds, etc, etc,...
RJ
RJ  Thanks!
RJ

Bad form, but I just realized its not just a Tribes 2 problem. None of these 
games have sound either:

Heretic2
Rune
Quake2
Unreal Tournament
Descent 3

WineX games seem to work and have sound. I've not checked all my titles 
though, ditto with native games.

This appears to be a large problem - anyone have any ideas/same experience?

Thanks again.

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[newbie] Zip drive oddity

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall

I've got the usual Iomega Zip drive at /dev/hdc (master, 2nd channel) on my
Soyo Dragon Plus MB. I've used it under v9.0 and 9.1 with no problems. I'm
able to use it just fine now, cp'ing/rm'ing files no problems. I am getting
an odd message in dmesg that I've never gotten before (this is under 9.2):

Partition check:
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2  p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 
 hdc:6end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1
spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
 unable to read partition table
ide: late registration of driver.

I tried booting with 2 different (and known good) zip carts in, as well as
with no cart in at all. Same message. I switched IDE cables, just in case.
Still the same message.

AFAICT - there is no harm done, after all...I am able to use the drive. Its
just annonying. Is this one of those semi-harmless, non-fatal messages that I
can safely ignore?

Thanks!

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[newbie] Re-scribed / calendars

2003-12-01 Thread Miark
I haven't been around very much these last couple of weeks,
so I just realized that I had (somehow) become unsubed from
the Newbie list. Odd.

Anyway, I can't seem to find any calendar sharing program 
for a Linux-only network. Evolution and Korganizer don't
share, and Mozilla's calendar doesn't seem ready yet.
Suggestions?

Miark

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[newbie] DRI/DRM problems with Radeon SDR PCI

2003-12-01 Thread Joe
I want to use DRI with ATI.2

Installed: Name: drm-kernel
Version: 1.100.0.10-6mdk which was supposed to provide:
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/char/atidrm/radeon.o.gz
And: Name: ati.2
Version: 4.3.20030708-1mdk
my problem: the drm-kernel rpm did not create a .../char/atidrm/radeon.o.gz

and the stock radeon module doesn't load (modprobe radeon gives lots of 
unresolved symbol errors)

checking the XFree86.0.log shows:
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[drm] failed to load kernel module radeon
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.
Suggestions for getting direct rendering working?

TIA. Joe



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Re: [newbie] needed paid support

2003-12-01 Thread Anguo
On Tuesday 02 Dec 2003 12:52 pm, aronsmith wrote:
  Write to me if you're really knowledgeable or better:
  pick up the aforementionned mandrake expert incidents.
 
  thanks,
 
  Anguo

 payment = we get to pick on you

Sorry?
My English is good, but I must admit that I am not sure I 
understand what you mean. Is this a pun or do you mean 
something specific?

Blessings,



Anguo

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[newbie] Keyboard error under v9.2?

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Okay, whenever I quit out of KDE (root or normal user) I get a screen full of

warning   unresolved field

xkbcomp errors are not fatal to the Xserver

stuff. Is this something I need to be concerned about/fix or should it be 
ignored.

I've not seen this before.

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Re: [newbie] Are you ready for a MOVE?

2003-12-01 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Monday 01 December 2003 9:43 pm, Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner wrote:
 [from Mandrake-Linux Dot Com]

 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mandrakemove/

 ~~
 The MandrakeMove Download Edition is a new product based on Mandrake Linux
 9.2 which provides a complete personal desktop operating system on a
 bootable CD. With MandrakeMove, bring your Mandrake Linux system
 everywhere: demo it, use it to connect to the Internet, listen to MP3s,
 watch DivX movies -- the possibilities are endless! In addition, the
 MandrakeMove Boxed Edition provides the ability to save configuration and
 personal data to a USB key.

 There's no need to install a system before using it: MandrakeMove runs on
 the fly directly from a CD on any supported PC.
 ~~

 Regards,

 Thorsten

It wouldn't boot for me on this old clunker. Kernel panic just after loading 
step 3 on four attempts. The error message was something about 
/dev/something or other already loaded.

I'll stick with Tex's pclinuxos and/or Knoppix for livecd distributions for 
now. Or take a swing at making my own from my own install, if I ever find the 
time.

Regards;
Charlie
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Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk
23:22:36 up 7:13, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.21, 0.45
Convention is the ruler of all.
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[newbie] No sound...

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Okay, I'm not sure what happened but now I've lost all sound under v9.2. :-(

XMMS doesn't work. MPlayer doesn't work, KDE sounds are gone.

Right after KDE started I got a no i/o error as well as a no /dev/dsp 
error.

Looking for /dev/dsp shows its there, linked to dsp0.

This is on a Soyo Dragon Plus MB with onboard sound. The sound modules are 
loaded. I can do a service sound restart and it says the mixer settings are 
loaded [OK]. Trying to run Aumix, Kmix, or Alsamixer gives a crash.

Anyone have any ideas what is happening with sound here? :-(

Thanks.

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[newbie] Zip drive oddity

2003-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
I've got the usual Iomega Zip drive at /dev/hdc (master, 2nd channel) on my 
Soyo Dragon Plus MB. I've used it under v9.0 and 9.1 with no problems. I'm 
able to use it just fine now, cp'ing/rm'ing files no problems. I am getting 
an odd message in dmesg that I've never gotten before (this is under 9.2):

Partition check:
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2  p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 
 hdc:6end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1
spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed.
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4
end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6
 unable to read partition table
ide: late registration of driver.

I tried booting with 2 different (and known good) zip carts in, as well as 
with no cart in at all. Same message. I switched IDE cables, just in case. 
Still the same message.

AFAICT - there is no harm done, after all...I am able to use the drive. Its 
just annonying. Is this one of those semi-harmless, non-fatal messages that I 
can safely ignore?

Thanks!

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