Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 11:40 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 Ok, y'all - no flames, no laughs, no jests.

 The day before yesterday I hosed my PRIMARY linux box - running RH
 7.3+. Because the partition table was mucked up beyond recognition, I
 lost my email, bookmarks, contacts, yadda yadda yadda...you name it,
 I lost it. Mind included.

 Resolution to the issue was at first trying to get RH 8.0 on NICELY -
 didn't work. Actually, the performance was so lousy, and setting up a
 SIMPLE BLOODY HCF MODEM was so complex, I gave up. It was sickening.
 Hours gone for nothing. Ok - so now I've installed MDK 9.1rc2 -
 installation of EVERYTHING (and some) was less than an hour. Even
 setup my / and other FS's as ReiserFS without a hitch. Changed to the
 NVidia driver (via source compilation) in no time at all. Had to dig
 for KPPP, though - cuz it wasn't installed by default and the MCC
 still don't play nicely for doing simple setups - but that's another
 story...even got my IP masquerading done rather quickly - few minutes
 - nice.

 I have to say that KDE 3.1 is a beaut. MDK 9.1 has quite a bit of
 polish, quite a bit of performance - quite a lot of getting used to
 because, remember, I was enslaved to the RH world - but no mo. Nada.
 Done. Finito.

 The only issues I have now are that I have to get Postfix (yech)
 working nicely as it ain't playing nicely - and I'm far from being a
 Postfix freak - so I'm wondering about blowing Postfix and putting
 Sendmail on...

 SO, if y'all got something to tell me - some bits of wisdom or
 advice, please PLEASE tell me - cuz I've already lost three days of
 productivity with this and well, I'm really tired now...(grin) BUT,
 I'm happy it's working like a champ (performance is still mind
 boggling for me...really - not a joke)

9.1? Why?
Postfix can be a problem in 9.2 because it installs a non-functional 
mailman. Solution is to configure mailman or just uninstall both and 
reinstall Postfix. I didn't have a problem with 9.1final though, 
although I might have just selected different install options.

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Re: [newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-24 Thread et
On Friday 23 April 2004 04:04 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 00:09, Tango Echo wrote:
  Stephen,
 
  I wish I could help you.  But just out of curiosity,
  have you researched any other packages such as
  OpenGroupware?  OpenGroupware doesn't seem to have as
  slick an interface as PHPGW but I believe it can be
  customized.  The reason I ask is because I will be
  looking to research and/or deploy a Linux based
  groupware package at one of my sites...
 
  Thanks,
 
  Tango

 Yeppers - have looked - hence the reason for wanting to dig into PHPGW;
 it's at least more developed OR SO IT SEEMS - now if I can just get the
 damn thing running...

I guess we could start at teh begining.. you are running Apache, aren't you? 
which version, since the setup is slighly different, and if apache 2, are you 
loading apache2-mod_php? 


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[newbie] PHP nuke problem

2004-04-24 Thread Nigel Wilkinson
Hi

I've installed the PHP nuke and mysql rpm's but when I try to access PHP 
nuke I just get a blank page. Any pointers would be appreciated.

I'm using mandrake 9.1

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 24 April 2004 12:48 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 17:31, Margot wrote:
  Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 16:27, Aron Smith wrote:
  then he would screem at them RTFM MF
  
  ...that's assuming he know what that means...ahem...(g)
  
  read the friendly manual My friend ?
  
   Dang - what'd you do - go to church this year or something?
 
  Aron's been taking etiquette lessons over on the OT list!!!

 I thought we weren't allowed to use Aron and etiquette in the same
 sentence, ay wot?
Right that's called taking my name in vain (or vein if you are a Vampire)

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:46:32 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  MS developers are a bunch of moronic crackheads, but hell, they make me
  money.
 
 I've dealt with this issue before - but in an easier manner:
 Sold the customer a RedHat server; used the standard imap/sendmail
 setup; copied particular folders to the imap server therefore deleting
 them from the .PST (this took DAYS - no joke); upon completion, reset
 the configuration for LookOut to just use the IMAP server; customer
 happy, worked faster than it did before. Customer decided to make use of
 another server (linux, of course) for file/print sharing. Now I only
 drop in once in a while to check the Windows2000/XP workstations - the
 server keep on serving...

Problem is, their mail is handled by a hosting provider. I tried to sell them on
an inhouse mailserver using IMAP, but they are 'concerned' about security and
reliability. These are the same people, of course, that when I first walked into
the place had the main fileserver's admin pass set to 'PASSWORD'.

This one client could keep me busy for years.

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Re: [newbie] Are there any AAC(.m4u) plugins for Linux?

2004-04-24 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 23 April 2004 07:33 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 Do you have a scsi or ata cdrom?  If ATA, what is the device ie /dev/hdc
 or /dev/hdd?
   

 I Think it's SCSI, but I'm not positive. The device is /dev/hdc.

If the device is /dev/hdc, it isa ATA.

Try 'hdparm /dev/hdc' and see if the output syas dma is on.
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[newbie] using different kernel, moving files over network

2004-04-24 Thread Todd Slater
I'm trying to make my own livecd but I've got some embarassing gaps in
my knowledge. I've never messed with my kernel, and Texstar recommends
not using the default 9.2 kernel. So, I downloaded and installed the tmb
kernel from contrib and installed via rpm -Uvh, edited lilo.conf to use
the new kernel as default, and ran lilo. This seems to work when
booting, we'll see if it transfers to the livecd as well. If I wanted to
completely replace the old kernel with the new, is that an easy task?

Finally, I'm building the livecd on a computer without a cd burner so I
have to somehow get the iso to another computer. I've got a network--a
dlink router--but I don't see any way to easily see the other
computer. I could use scp, but I'm sure there's got to be an easier way.
In my network and internet section of mcc (9.1) I've just got
drakconnect, drakproxy, and drakgw. Should I have another package for
this?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread frankieh
JoeHill wrote:

 Contorer wrote that end users stuck with Windows, despite the operating
system's shortcomings, based on the high costs of abandoning heavy investments
already made in APIs.
'The Windows API is so broad, so deep and so functional that most ISVs
(independent software vendors) would be crazy not to use it. And it is so deeply
embedded in the source code of many Windows apps that there is a huge switching
cost to using a different operating system, instead,' the e-mail reads.
'It is this switching cost that has given the customers the patience to stick
with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high TCO (total
cost of ownership), our lack of a sexy vision, at times, and many other
difficulties,' the e-mail said. 'Customers constantly evaluate other desktop
platforms, (but) it would be so much work to move over that they hope we just
improve Windows rather than force them to move.'
Link:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040422231316209


Thats not gonna be too much of a big deal shortly... there are several 
things in the industry now related to MicroSoft, that are going to help 
Linux quiet abit..

- Allot of apps will in the next few years need to be swapped to Win64, 
and will require substantial code changes anyway. (see below.)

- Microsoft themselves are going to break allot of their own backwards 
compatability, in fact they have already done so.
--- Win2003 already breaks some software from win2000/XP.
--- win XP service pack2 breaks more software.
--- Windows Longhorn will break huge reams of existing software... it is 
to innovative to be backwards compatable.

And you think that is the end??   Microsoft knows that in order to keep 
people upgrading, they know they can make it different, as long as they 
make it seem easier then reworking the programs to run on linux...

But how long is that arguement going to last???  after Longhorn, 
microsoft are going to have to change everything even more to justify to 
people how upgading to whatever new they come up with is worth it..

Eventually developers are going to get sick of rewriting their apps each 
time MS come up with something they think people just have to have 
eventually they will realise that this is just more microsoft FUD and 
that in the long run, writting apps for a totally open API is simply 
better, particularly if the alternative is re-writing their apps every 5 
years or so.



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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread frankieh
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

Ok, y'all - no flames, no laughs, no jests.

The day before yesterday I hosed my PRIMARY linux box - running RH 7.3+.
Because the partition table was mucked up beyond recognition, I lost my
email, bookmarks, contacts, yadda yadda yadda...you name it, I lost it.
Mind included.
I was a big redhat fan from 4.x to 6.2, then I changed to mandake and 
haven't looked back.


Resolution to the issue was at first trying to get RH 8.0 on NICELY -
didn't work. Actually, the performance was so lousy, and setting up a
SIMPLE BLOODY HCF MODEM was so complex, I gave up. It was sickening.
Hours gone for nothing. Ok - so now I've installed MDK 9.1rc2 -
installation of EVERYTHING (and some) was less than an hour. Even setup
my / and other FS's as ReiserFS without a hitch. Changed to the NVidia
driver (via source compilation) in no time at all. Had to dig for KPPP,
though - cuz it wasn't installed by default and the MCC still don't play
nicely for doing simple setups - but that's another story...even got my
IP masquerading done rather quickly - few minutes - nice.
I have to say that KDE 3.1 is a beaut. MDK 9.1 has quite a bit of
polish, quite a bit of performance - quite a lot of getting used to
because, remember, I was enslaved to the RH world - but no mo. Nada.
Done. Finito.
Even mdk7.2 was polished.. I still have  abox running 7.2, and its 
uptime is about a year now.

The only issues I have now are that I have to get Postfix (yech) working
nicely as it ain't playing nicely - and I'm far from being a Postfix
freak - so I'm wondering about blowing Postfix and putting Sendmail
on...
Postfix is faster, more secure, and the only skill you need to configure 
it is the ability to read.
In other words, no nasty M4 macros and no need to speak the gibberish 
that sendmail.cf uses.
(I used sendmail for ages on readhat and initially on mandrake as well.. 
so I got to know it reasonably well, but I never particularly liked it.)
Also, postfix content_filter rocks, it beats the hell our of sendmail's 
milter iterface...

Take the time to learn postfix, I guarantee that once you know its ins 
and outs, you will be a fan.

If you really do want to run sendmail instead of postfix, doesn't 
contrib have sendmail packages?

(I think your nuts for wanting to, but to each his own.)


SO, if y'all got something to tell me - some bits of wisdom or advice,
please PLEASE tell me - cuz I've already lost three days of productivity
with this and well, I'm really tired now...(grin) BUT, I'm happy it's
working like a champ (performance is still mind boggling for me...really
- not a joke)
Whats so hard about postfix? you actually prefer sendmail.cf to main.cf??
One is commented and in english, the other is gibberish... I know which 
one I prefer.

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[newbie] online update certain package only

2004-04-24 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Hi all,
Can I do an online upgrade for certain package only?
For example I want to update my bind9 into newer version. Can I do this?
Thanks.
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[newbie] Access Denied

2004-04-24 Thread Aron Smith
When transfering MP3 files from my jukebox (Bantem Interactive) to my computre 
for editing  the transfer goes ok but erasing files from the jukebox I get 
the message
Access Denied to Mnt/Removable?system/music/linein .mp3
I can erase the file using Root Midnight Commander so it seem to be a 
premissions thing .
How can I give my user account access to read and write these files?


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RE: [newbie] PHP nuke problem

2004-04-24 Thread Josh
Check the docs folder for installation instructions.  If I remember
correctly, you have to modify some config files to connect to your db, and
run a few scripts to create tables.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Wilkinson
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] PHP nuke problem

Hi

I've installed the PHP nuke and mysql rpm's but when I try to access PHP 
nuke I just get a blank page. Any pointers would be appreciated.

I'm using mandrake 9.1

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread Lanman
frankieh wrote:
Thats not gonna be too much of a big deal shortly... there are several 
things in the industry now related to MicroSoft, that are going to help 
Linux quiet abit..

- Allot of apps will in the next few years need to be swapped to Win64, 
and will require substantial code changes anyway. (see below.)

- Microsoft themselves are going to break allot of their own backwards 
compatability, in fact they have already done so.
--- Win2003 already breaks some software from win2000/XP.
--- win XP service pack2 breaks more software.
--- Windows Longhorn will break huge reams of existing software... it is 
to innovative to be backwards compatable.

And you think that is the end??   Microsoft knows that in order to keep 
people upgrading, they know they can make it different, as long as they 
make it seem easier then reworking the programs to run on linux...

But how long is that arguement going to last???  after Longhorn, 
microsoft are going to have to change everything even more to justify to 
people how upgading to whatever new they come up with is worth it..

Eventually developers are going to get sick of rewriting their apps each 
time MS come up with something they think people just have to have 
eventually they will realise that this is just more microsoft FUD and 
that in the long run, writting apps for a totally open API is simply 
better, particularly if the alternative is re-writing their apps every 5 
years or so.

FrankieH; Don't forget that Linux is gaining a lot of popularity and 
momentum. That alone, will push a lot of software companies to seriously 
consider coming out with re-worked versions of their apps, and many are 
already doing exactly that.

In many cases, well-estasblished apps written for Linux years ago have 
been improving by leaps and bounds, and as people start to migrate over 
to Linux, they'll start depending on those apps, instead of seeking 
commercial or proprietary ones.

One last thing here. One of Microsoft's long term goals is to migrate 
most of their apps to web-based systems which will be sold as 
subscription services - ie; Microsoft Office. That's one of their prime 
reasons for coming up with dotNet.

Part of Microsoft's game plan is to be able to sell those services 
across all platforms, since much of the web already is 
platform-agnostic. It's the easiest way to capture a higher marketshare.

So, don't be too surprised to see a lot of companies coming out with 
web-based applications in the near future. If companies can build apps 
which will work just as well on Linux and MacOS, as they do on Windows, 
compatibility will take a distinct move up the ladder.

Microsoft also knows that this is one way that they can continue to 
build crappy applications, without all those nasty crash events 
happening, simply by moving the app from the hard drive to the web.

It also means that they'll probably try to sell it's merits by promoting 
the stability factor of the web. Also, this also explains why the new 
Windows ( currently due out sometime this decade ! ) will have a newer 
version of Internet Explorer (something like version 8) which will be 
tuned to take advantage of the new web-based apps that Microsoft will be 
selling. Don't be surprised if they call LongHorn something like 
Internet Commander or something, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was 
the core of the OS. Certainly would explain why the tried to merge IE 5 
through 6 into the OS, and why Bill Gates was buying up cablevision 
companies in Europe a few years ago. Who else is gonna supply that much 
broadband to a user-base?

Just a few thoughts for your consideration.

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[newbie] AC 97 sound looping

2004-04-24 Thread Marc
Using ML 10.0 I have looping or rapidly repeating sound. I tried changing my 
append line in drake boot to  devfs=mount acpi=no resume=/dev/hdc5 
splash=silent but that did not help at all. Anyone have any ideas what I 
should try next?

TIA
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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread The Other
Software issues aside, what about Windows XP affecting laptop hard 
drives?

My boss had his second laptop hard drive failure this year.  When 
talking to the software/hardware support people of the company, he 
was told that the stock of replacement laptop hard drives was very 
low.  The reason:  Windows XP is spinning the drives to death!

This is a company that should have (conservative estimate) 15,000 to 
25,000 laptops in service, nationwide in the USA.

How long can a company afford to swap out bad laptop hard drives?  
Especially when using a 3rd party to make the switch.  It's 
overnight shipping of the drives, then the 3rd party installation, 
then another shipping back to the company storehouses for 
refurbishing or whatever is done with the bad drives.

The economics of the hardware failures caused by Windows XP, if 
uncorrected by Microsoft, will have to cause a company to switch 
operating systems.

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[newbie] Need package that contains db.h?

2004-04-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
I am trying to install spamassassin 2.63 and need the file db.h does 
anyone know what package contains it?
Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread Alex Brooks
Theres always qmail, thats got a VERY good reputation in some circles...

Alex

frankieh wrote:

Stephen Kuhn wrote:

Ok, y'all - no flames, no laughs, no jests.

The day before yesterday I hosed my PRIMARY linux box - running RH 7.3+.
Because the partition table was mucked up beyond recognition, I lost my
email, bookmarks, contacts, yadda yadda yadda...you name it, I lost it.
Mind included.


I was a big redhat fan from 4.x to 6.2, then I changed to mandake and 
haven't looked back.


Resolution to the issue was at first trying to get RH 8.0 on NICELY -
didn't work. Actually, the performance was so lousy, and setting up a
SIMPLE BLOODY HCF MODEM was so complex, I gave up. It was sickening.
Hours gone for nothing. Ok - so now I've installed MDK 9.1rc2 -
installation of EVERYTHING (and some) was less than an hour. Even setup
my / and other FS's as ReiserFS without a hitch. Changed to the NVidia
driver (via source compilation) in no time at all. Had to dig for KPPP,
though - cuz it wasn't installed by default and the MCC still don't play
nicely for doing simple setups - but that's another story...even got my
IP masquerading done rather quickly - few minutes - nice.
I have to say that KDE 3.1 is a beaut. MDK 9.1 has quite a bit of
polish, quite a bit of performance - quite a lot of getting used to
because, remember, I was enslaved to the RH world - but no mo. Nada.
Done. Finito.


Even mdk7.2 was polished.. I still have  abox running 7.2, and its 
uptime is about a year now.

The only issues I have now are that I have to get Postfix (yech) working
nicely as it ain't playing nicely - and I'm far from being a Postfix
freak - so I'm wondering about blowing Postfix and putting Sendmail
on...


Postfix is faster, more secure, and the only skill you need to 
configure it is the ability to read.
In other words, no nasty M4 macros and no need to speak the gibberish 
that sendmail.cf uses.
(I used sendmail for ages on readhat and initially on mandrake as 
well.. so I got to know it reasonably well, but I never particularly 
liked it.)
Also, postfix content_filter rocks, it beats the hell our of 
sendmail's milter iterface...

Take the time to learn postfix, I guarantee that once you know its ins 
and outs, you will be a fan.

If you really do want to run sendmail instead of postfix, doesn't 
contrib have sendmail packages?

(I think your nuts for wanting to, but to each his own.)


SO, if y'all got something to tell me - some bits of wisdom or advice,
please PLEASE tell me - cuz I've already lost three days of productivity
with this and well, I'm really tired now...(grin) BUT, I'm happy it's
working like a champ (performance is still mind boggling for me...really
- not a joke)


Whats so hard about postfix? you actually prefer sendmail.cf to main.cf??
One is commented and in english, the other is gibberish... I know 
which one I prefer.



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Re: [newbie] using different kernel, moving files over network

2004-04-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 14:26, Todd Slater wrote:
 I'm trying to make my own livecd but I've got some embarassing gaps in
 my knowledge. I've never messed with my kernel, and Texstar recommends
 not using the default 9.2 kernel. So, I downloaded and installed the tmb
 kernel from contrib and installed via rpm -Uvh, edited lilo.conf to use
 the new kernel as default, and ran lilo. This seems to work when
 booting, we'll see if it transfers to the livecd as well. If I wanted to
 completely replace the old kernel with the new, is that an easy task?

 Finally, I'm building the livecd on a computer without a cd burner so I
 have to somehow get the iso to another computer. I've got a network--a
 dlink router--but I don't see any way to easily see the other
 computer. I could use scp, but I'm sure there's got to be an easier way.
 In my network and internet section of mcc (9.1) I've just got
 drakconnect, drakproxy, and drakgw. Should I have another package for
 this?

 Thanks,
 Todd

If you use KDE then 'fish' is a really convenient way of transferring files 
around.
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html

(OK Joe we know what you think of KDE. In which case you can use gftp in much 
the same way by selecting ssh protocol)

Good luck with the livecd  I was going to try it myself, so I woill be 
interested to hear how you get on.

derek

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Re: [newbie] using different kernel, moving files over network

2004-04-24 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 04:56:42PM +0100, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 14:26, Todd Slater wrote:
  I'm trying to make my own livecd but I've got some embarassing gaps in
  my knowledge. I've never messed with my kernel, and Texstar recommends
  not using the default 9.2 kernel. So, I downloaded and installed the tmb
snip
  Finally, I'm building the livecd on a computer without a cd burner so I
  have to somehow get the iso to another computer. I've got a network--a
  dlink router--but I don't see any way to easily see the other
  computer. I could use scp, but I'm sure there's got to be an easier way.
  In my network and internet section of mcc (9.1) I've just got
  drakconnect, drakproxy, and drakgw. Should I have another package for
  this?
 
  Thanks,
  Todd
 
 If you use KDE then 'fish' is a really convenient way of transferring files 
 around.
 http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html
 
 (OK Joe we know what you think of KDE. In which case you can use gftp in much 
 the same way by selecting ssh protocol)
 
 Good luck with the livecd  I was going to try it myself, so I woill be 
 interested to hear how you get on.
 
 derek

Thanks, I got impatient so I just used scp and I was amazed at how
fast it was.

I burned my first livecd and it more or less worked. It wouldn't work
well on my old computer with only 64MB RAM, but worked fine on a laptop
with more RAM, except for the nVidia driver issue.

I think I've figured out the RAM issue (the documentation for mklivecd
is *really* sparse and I've been scouring the archives). The only
problem now is that 9.2 won't honor my boot settings (auto login a guest
user). I'm hitting the mdk archives now to see if I can find a solution
for that, unless anybody knows off the top of their head...

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread frankieh
Lanman wrote:
  FrankieH; Don't forget that Linux is gaining a lot of popularity and
momentum. That alone, will push a lot of software companies to seriously 
consider coming out with re-worked versions of their apps, and many are 
already doing exactly that.
Yes, I think the fact that Macromedia are looking into it is a big win.
They won't be the last.
In many cases, well-estasblished apps written for Linux years ago have 
been improving by leaps and bounds, and as people start to migrate over 
to Linux, they'll start depending on those apps, instead of seeking 
commercial or proprietary ones.
no arguements there.

One last thing here. One of Microsoft's long term goals is to migrate 
most of their apps to web-based systems which will be sold as 
subscription services - ie; Microsoft Office. That's one of their prime 
reasons for coming up with dotNet.
I totally disagree with this.. it may have once been the goal, before 
linux got where it is now.
but it aint the goal anymore..   .net and C# were created to stop Java 
becoming the defacto enterprise development platform,
something that would have taken it out of M$'s hands once they found out 
they couldn't make their own version of Java without having to pay their 
profits to Sun..

They can't afford to make Office a by the web subscription service 
that will run on any platfrom.. because that will totally remove the 
need for windows, and windows is still a huge M$ cash cow.

The Mono project is just M$ paying lip service to the open operability 
thing, if you think it will be allowed to ever  run Office on linux 
machines (without a court case saying it has to.) then you need your 
head read.
Mono, as with most everything Microsoft has give away, will not contain 
ALL the api's that microsoft will be using..  you can count on that. 
just the same way that office now uses windows API's that M$ have not 
given to the rest of the community.

When windows is no longer a cashcow for M$, and they can't do anything 
about it, THEN you might see them open up to office on other platforms. 
 before then, I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you.

(for example, try running windows update using mozilla.)


Part of Microsoft's game plan is to be able to sell those services 
across all platforms, since much of the web already is 
platform-agnostic. It's the easiest way to capture a higher marketshare.

They already have 90+% of the office software market, and they have a 
big windows monopoly as well, they are not going to sacrifice one for 
the other until they have no other choice.

So, don't be too surprised to see a lot of companies coming out with 
web-based applications in the near future. If companies can build apps 
which will work just as well on Linux and MacOS, as they do on Windows, 
compatibility will take a distinct move up the ladder.
Oh yes, I don't doubt that for a minute, but do you think microsoft are 
just going to give up the single biggest reason they have why people 
should run windows (the ability to run office integrated into all sorts 
of other software packages)?? thats not going to happen.

When windows is irrelivant, and it starts costing office sales, then 
they will consider it, but not till them.

Microsoft also knows that this is one way that they can continue to 
build crappy applications, without all those nasty crash events 
happening, simply by moving the app from the hard drive to the web.

Do we really want MS writing office code that makes Linux crash so they 
can claim that windows is more stable???
it wouldn't be the first time.  .NET code will still have security 
vunerabilities, and it will still be able to take down the underlying OS.
(Just as Java can.) so do we want Office running on Mono on linux so 
that M$ can mess with linux's reputation even more???


It also means that they'll probably try to sell it's merits by promoting 
the stability factor of the web. Also, this also explains why the new 
Windows ( currently due out sometime this decade ! ) will have a newer 
version of Internet Explorer (something like version 8) which will be 
tuned to take advantage of the new web-based apps that Microsoft will be 
selling. Don't be surprised if they call LongHorn something like 
Internet Commander or something, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was 
the core of the OS. Certainly would explain why the tried to merge IE 5 
through 6 into the OS, and why Bill Gates was buying up cablevision 
companies in Europe a few years ago. Who else is gonna supply that much 
broadband to a user-base?

Well who knows, but as I said above, they will not open anything up till 
they don't need windows anymore.
Thats not going to happen anytime soon.

As for Longhorn, it will be much less of an upgrade then they initially 
touted it as...
They can't go ALL OUT for net applicatons because they have been stung 
before by the lack of widespread broadband..
They won't make that mistake again.. Longhorn will have to work both 
ways, because 

Re: [newbie] Need package that contains db.h?

2004-04-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 17:06, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 I am trying to install spamassassin 2.63 and need the file db.h does
 anyone know what package contains it?
 Regards;
 Hoyt

Open a terminal type :-

urpmf db.h

and you get a list of all packages containing that string.

But really the easy way of getting Spamassassin 2.63 is installing Charles 
Edwards' RPM packages.
http://www.eslrahc.com/

(Mandrake 10.0 has an RPM for 2.63 on the CD)

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[newbie] Error installing cssed

2004-04-24 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi all,

I'm trying to install cssed-0.2.0 on my mdk 9.1 machine. When I run
./configure I get the following error:

configure: error: libgtk2.0-dev not found please install libgtk2.0-dev

I do have libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.2.1-2mdk installed, but I doesn't seem to
be the same. I can't seen to find libgtk2.0-dev either. Can anybody tell
me where I can find it? Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Need package that contains db.h?

2004-04-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 24 April 2004 01:15 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 17:06, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  I am trying to install spamassassin 2.63 and need the file db.h
  does anyone know what package contains it?
  Regards;
  Hoyt

 Open a terminal type :-

 urpmf db.h

 and you get a list of all packages containing that string.

 But really the easy way of getting Spamassassin 2.63 is installing
 Charles Edwards' RPM packages.
 http://www.eslrahc.com/

 (Mandrake 10.0 has an RPM for 2.63 on the CD)

 derek
Thanks very much it will be a lot easier to use an rpm.
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[newbie] 10 official.....

2004-04-24 Thread JRH


I see from the mandrake site, that 10 Official is available for 
download

Although I cant see any ISO Images available.. are there images yet? or is 
it too new?

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[newbie] Seti on Mandrake 10

2004-04-24 Thread Sentinel SME
Hi Folks

I'm looking for something that will do Seti on my Mandrake 10 installation. 

I've not had problems with the Windows one and as far as I can see the Linux ones are 
all command line installed?

The installation of Mandrake is only a week old and I'm just getting around it, just, 
and thus am very much a newbie :)

Thanks in advance

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Re: [newbie] 10 official.....

2004-04-24 Thread Marc
On Saturday 24 April 2004 02:10 pm, JRH wrote:
 I see from the mandrake site, that 10 Official is available for
 download

 Although I cant see any ISO Images available.. are there images yet? or
 is it too new?

 JRH

  There are no images available yet as far as I know. I had to use 
bittorrent . It installed in 9.2 without any of the dependancy problems that 
I had with older versions of bittorrent and worked without any problems at 
all, only took about 4 hours per CD.

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Re: [newbie] online update certain package only

2004-04-24 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 24 April 2004 09:15 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 Hi all,
 Can I do an online upgrade for certain package only?
 For example I want to update my bind9 into newer version. Can I do this?
 Thanks.
Should be able to if there is an update on the servers:
from a command line do; urpmi bind9 and hit enter. It should update  the 
package, assuming you have  a update source set  that has that rpm.
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Re: [newbie] Seti on Mandrake 10

2004-04-24 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 24 April 2004 02:17 pm, Sentinel SME wrote:
 Hi Folks

 I'm looking for something that will do Seti on my Mandrake 10
 installation.

 I've not had problems with the Windows one and as far as I can see the
 Linux ones are all command line installed?

 The installation of Mandrake is only a week old and I'm just getting around
 it, just, and thus am very much a newbie :)

 Thanks in advance

 Ltwt
For a front end use Ksetiwatch and for the program download from the 
Setiathome site the i686-pc-linux-gnu tar file. Open a console and at the 
prompt type:  
1.tar -xvf setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar hit enter and it will 
untar the package. 
2.   Then from the command prompt type:   cd setiathome* and hit enter. It 
will change to that directory.
3.   At the prompt type: ./setiathome and it will start the download of your 
first set. 
If you did this without being root it will set the program in 
your /home/Documents or some place similar and you can then invoke ksetiwatch 
and set it at that folder for the executable of the setiathome prog.  I am 
not really to good with these explanations so come back if you have any 
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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread Lanman
Frankie; Heads Up!

frankieh wrote:
Lanman wrote:
  FrankieH; Don't forget that Linux is gaining a lot of popularity and
momentum. That alone, will push a lot of software companies to 
seriously consider coming out with re-worked versions of their apps, 
and many are already doing exactly that.


Yes, I think the fact that Macromedia are looking into it is a big win.
They won't be the last.
In many cases, well-estasblished apps written for Linux years ago have 
been improving by leaps and bounds, and as people start to migrate 
over to Linux, they'll start depending on those apps, instead of 
seeking commercial or proprietary ones.


no arguements there.

One last thing here. One of Microsoft's long term goals is to migrate 
most of their apps to web-based systems which will be sold as 
subscription services - ie; Microsoft Office. That's one of their 
prime reasons for coming up with dotNet.


I totally disagree with this.. it may have once been the goal, before 
linux got where it is now.
but it aint the goal anymore..   .net and C# were created to stop Java 
becoming the defacto enterprise development platform,
something that would have taken it out of M$'s hands once they found out 
they couldn't make their own version of Java without having to pay their 
profits to Sun..

They can't afford to make Office a by the web subscription service 
that will run on any platfrom.. because that will totally remove the 
need for windows, and windows is still a huge M$ cash cow.

Not necessarily. Microsoft now needs to put some effort into protecting 
their cash cows, and Windows isn't one anymore. Notice that they either 
spout a lot of releases or they take a long time to release a newer 
version. That's because they either view a relase as a Hit or a Miss

Now it's their server versions and licenses, as well as Office that have 
become the cash cows, except that the server versions are taking a 
serious hit from Linux and so are their license sales. In order to get 
past the poor history that Windows has had, they'll be starting to move 
to a Light Windows install, with a large block of apps only available 
via the web.

Much like you pointed out below with Mozilla, you'll still need their 
browser to access the applications, or a plugin for other browsers, much 
the same way that Microsoft made Office, Outlook Express and Internet 
Explorer versions for iMac's.

If that is correct, expect everyone to start paying for it one way or 
another, assuming that they want those features and applications. many 
consumers ( hell Most of them ) won;t have a choice but to continue on 
with whatever M$ spews out of their Willy Wonka factories! Besides, as 
in the past, many of the big PC producers wull Bundle this stuff into 
their systems - no matter which OS it runs. By manipulating that 
cross-platform type of architecture, Microsoft can go a long way towards 
getting rid of a bunch of anti-trust lawsuits, and by selling or 
licensing the technology out to it's competitors and partner companies.

They're after a 100% market share, and they also want to cash in on 
Linux, MacOS, and anything else that gets popular.

The Mono project is just M$ paying lip service to the open operability 
thing, if you think it will be allowed to ever  run Office on linux 
machines (without a court case saying it has to.) then you need your 
head read.
Allowed ?? Who needs to allow it? Microsoft needs permission? C'Mon!

Mono, as with most everything Microsoft has give away, will not contain 
ALL the api's that microsoft will be using..  you can count on that. 
just the same way that office now uses windows API's that M$ have not 
given to the rest of the community.
It won't be a question of API's anymore, except for a fairly short list 
of companies that have good resons not to. For those, you'll still 
install them in the normal manner. For the rest, it'll be a question of 
plugins and codecs designed to control the apps, but they will be 
managed, tracked, administered and monitored on the backend (ie; 
web-servers, database servers, etc.), so they'll only have to comply 
with browser interfaces. That makes it easier to maintain, develop and 
upgrade.

Oh, BTW, My head is fine thanks. I don't need any! g

When windows is no longer a cashcow for M$, and they can't do anything 
about it, THEN you might see them open up to office on other platforms. 
 before then, I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you.
Uh, Frankie? Windows is NOT a cash cow, now! That's why there's a lot of 
talk about giving it away, to maintain the user's dependancy on 
Microsoft. Hell, I can buy it legally for  less than $100.00 Canadian 
through my wholesalers, and Dell, HP, etc., ( for example ) pay less 
than $50.00 US for it. It won't take a lot of pressure from consumers 
switching to Linux to force that price even lower! Free is only a few 
years away, after Microsoft rapes everyone for a few versions of 
LongHorn that is.

(for example, try running windows 

Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 21:47, Richard Urwin wrote:

 9.1? Why?
 Postfix can be a problem in 9.2 because it installs a non-functional 
 mailman. Solution is to configure mailman or just uninstall both and 
 reinstall Postfix. I didn't have a problem with 9.1final though, 
 although I might have just selected different install options.

Richard, that's one of my first ever posts to the group - some several
years ago now.

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Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.

2004-04-24 Thread robin
Lanman wrote:
frankieh wrote:

Thats not gonna be too much of a big deal shortly... there are several 
things in the industry now related to MicroSoft, that are going to 
help Linux quiet abit..

- Allot of apps will in the next few years need to be swapped to 
Win64, and will require substantial code changes anyway. (see below.)

- Microsoft themselves are going to break allot of their own backwards 
compatability, in fact they have already done so.
--- Win2003 already breaks some software from win2000/XP.
--- win XP service pack2 breaks more software.
--- Windows Longhorn will break huge reams of existing software... it 
is to innovative to be backwards compatable.

And you think that is the end??   Microsoft knows that in order to 
keep people upgrading, they know they can make it different, as long 
as they make it seem easier then reworking the programs to run on 
linux...

But how long is that arguement going to last???  after Longhorn, 
microsoft are going to have to change everything even more to justify 
to people how upgading to whatever new they come up with is worth it..

Eventually developers are going to get sick of rewriting their apps 
each time MS come up with something they think people just have to 
have eventually they will realise that this is just more microsoft 
FUD and that in the long run, writting apps for a totally open API is 
simply better, particularly if the alternative is re-writing their 
apps every 5 years or so.

FrankieH; Don't forget that Linux is gaining a lot of popularity and 
momentum. That alone, will push a lot of software companies to seriously 
consider coming out with re-worked versions of their apps, and many are 
already doing exactly that.

In many cases, well-estasblished apps written for Linux years ago have 
been improving by leaps and bounds, and as people start to migrate over 
to Linux, they'll start depending on those apps, instead of seeking 
commercial or proprietary ones.

One last thing here. One of Microsoft's long term goals is to migrate 
most of their apps to web-based systems which will be sold as 
subscription services - ie; Microsoft Office. That's one of their prime 
reasons for coming up with dotNet.

Part of Microsoft's game plan is to be able to sell those services 
across all platforms, since much of the web already is 
platform-agnostic. It's the easiest way to capture a higher marketshare.

So, don't be too surprised to see a lot of companies coming out with 
web-based applications in the near future. If companies can build apps 
which will work just as well on Linux and MacOS, as they do on Windows, 
compatibility will take a distinct move up the ladder.

Microsoft also knows that this is one way that they can continue to 
build crappy applications, without all those nasty crash events 
happening, simply by moving the app from the hard drive to the web.

It also means that they'll probably try to sell it's merits by promoting 
the stability factor of the web.
ROTFL.

Also, this also explains why the new 
Windows ( currently due out sometime this decade ! ) will have a newer 
version of Internet Explorer (something like version 8) which will be 
tuned to take advantage of the new web-based apps that Microsoft will be 
selling. Don't be surprised if they call LongHorn something like 
Internet Commander or something, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was 
the core of the OS. Certainly would explain why the tried to merge IE 5 
through 6 into the OS, and why Bill Gates was buying up cablevision 
companies in Europe a few years ago. Who else is gonna supply that much 
broadband to a user-base?
This could be very amusing. Anyone remember Win98's active desktop? 
You make your whole dektop environment dependent on the thing that is 
most likely to crash. Even Windows users didn't buy that for long.

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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 11:49 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 21:47, Richard Urwin wrote:
  9.1? Why?
  Postfix can be a problem in 9.2 because it installs a
  non-functional mailman. Solution is to configure mailman or just
  uninstall both and reinstall Postfix. I didn't have a problem with
  9.1final though, although I might have just selected different
  install options.

 Richard, that's one of my first ever posts to the group - some
 several years ago now.

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Re: [newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 22:12, et wrote:

 I guess we could start at teh begining.. you are running Apache, aren't you? 
 which version, since the setup is slighly different, and if apache 2, are you 
 loading apache2-mod_php? 

Apache2, and yes, the mods are loading for php. Here's the error I get
when I try to browse to the http://localhost/phpgroupware/setup

Parse error: parse error, unexpected '{' in
/var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php on line 37

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by
(output started at /var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php:37) in
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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 00:10, frankieh wrote:

 I was a big redhat fan from 4.x to 6.2, then I changed to mandake and 
 haven't looked back.

1.) This is an ancient ancient post
2.) I started with Slackware 1, then RH Haloween
3.) This is an ancient post
4.) I wouldn't touch any RH below 9 at this point, and am still running
MDK 9.1 considering doing a total blow-out to 10CE...
5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah!

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Re: [newbie] Access Denied

2004-04-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 00:22, Aron Smith wrote:
 When transfering MP3 files from my jukebox (Bantem Interactive) to my computre 
 for editing  the transfer goes ok but erasing files from the jukebox I get 
 the message
 Access Denied to Mnt/Removable?system/music/linein .mp3
 I can erase the file using Root Midnight Commander so it seem to be a 
 premissions thing .
 How can I give my user account access to read and write these files?

What's in your /etc/fstab mate?

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Re: [newbie] Access Denied

2004-04-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 24 April 2004 04:17 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 00:22, Aron Smith wrote:
  When transfering MP3 files from my jukebox (Bantem Interactive) to my
  computre for editing  the transfer goes ok but erasing files from the
  jukebox I get the message
  Access Denied to Mnt/Removable?system/music/linein .mp3
  I can erase the file using Root Midnight Commander so it seem to be a
  premissions thing .
  How can I give my user account access to read and write these files?

 What's in your /etc/fstab mate?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$ cat fstab
/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0022,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 
0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]$
so?

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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 09:07, Richard Urwin wrote:

 Wow. Something is FUBAR. But this once I don't think it's the list 
 server...
 
 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20])
 by smtp1.mandrax.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F131017346D
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 06:59:48 +0200 
 (CEST)
 Received: (qmail 1421 invoked by uid 65534); 24 Apr 2004 10:41:37 -
 Received: from wolax11-037.dialup.optusnet.com.au (EHLO 
 wolax11-037.dialup.optusnet.com.au) (211.29.207.37)
   by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 24 Apr 2004 12:41:37 +0200

Yes - very very strange - and I've checked through my sent items to make
sure *I* didn't FUBAR or fsck something - and BTW, for whatever reason,
I don't see any of my girlfriends posts - y'all seem to have seen them,
but not me (er, that could be a good thing I reckon) (g)

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Re: [newbie] Access Denied

2004-04-24 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 09:26, Aron Smith wrote:

 so?

Er, I don't see a /mnt/removable in there anywhere - are you part of the
wheel group?
Are you a sudoer?

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Re: [newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-24 Thread Todd Slater
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 09:06:25AM +1000, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 22:12, et wrote:
 
  I guess we could start at teh begining.. you are running Apache, aren't you? 
  which version, since the setup is slighly different, and if apache 2, are you 
  loading apache2-mod_php? 
 
 Apache2, and yes, the mods are loading for php. Here's the error I get
 when I try to browse to the http://localhost/phpgroupware/setup
 
 Parse error: parse error, unexpected '{' in
 /var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php on line 37
 
 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by
 (output started at /var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php:37) in
 /var/www/html/phpgroupware/setup/index.php on line 62

Might check to see if there are known problems running it with apache2.
I had all kinds of problems trying to run another apache module with
apache2 (didn't like mod_perl and other stuff), and forget web_dav on
it. Since it just takes a sec to run Apache 1.3, it could be worth the
effort--at least to confirm or deny it.

Todd



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Re: [newbie] PHPGroupware

2004-04-24 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 19:06, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 22:12, et wrote:
 
  I guess we could start at teh begining.. you are running Apache, aren't you? 
  which version, since the setup is slighly different, and if apache 2, are you 
  loading apache2-mod_php? 
 
 Apache2, and yes, the mods are loading for php. Here's the error I get
 when I try to browse to the http://localhost/phpgroupware/setup
 
 Parse error: parse error, unexpected '{' in
 /var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php on line 37
This is a source code error. It seems to be a common problem for
phpgroupware users.

Take a look at:
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=header.inc.phpsubmit=Search%21idxname=phpgroupware-usersmax=20result=normalsort=score

 
 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by
 (output started at /var/www/html/phpgroupware/header.inc.php:37) in
 /var/www/html/phpgroupware/setup/index.php on line 62
This warning is a consequence of the previous error. Nothing to worry
about.

Adolfo



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Re: [newbie] Seti on Mandrake 10

2004-04-24 Thread Sentinel SME
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:00:19 -0500
Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Thank you Dennis.

Have now done this and it is working fine here :)

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Access Denied

2004-04-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 24 April 2004 04:55 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 09:26, Aron Smith wrote:
  so?

 Er, I don't see a /mnt/removable in there anywhere - are you part of the
 wheel group?
 Are you a sudoer?
Wheel sudo?

 stephen kuhn - owner
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 The documents of the Imperial Constitution have been established for
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 identical; the variations stem from subtleties of interpretation and
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Re: [newbie] Access Denied

2004-04-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 24 April 2004 04:55 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 09:26, Aron Smith wrote:
  so?

 Er, I don't see a /mnt/removable in there anywhere - are you part of the
 wheel group?
 Are you a sudoer?
try this the drive wasn,t mounted
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab
/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0022,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 
0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
none /mnt/removable supermount 
dev=/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0022,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850
 
0 0
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 The documents of the Imperial Constitution have been established for
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 identical; the variations stem from subtleties of interpretation and
 from microscopic loopholes that become large enough to drive a
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Re: [newbie] online update certain package only

2004-04-24 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Sunday 25 April 2004 02:47 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 24 April 2004 09:15 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
  Hi all,
  Can I do an online upgrade for certain package only?
  For example I want to update my bind9 into newer version. Can I do this?
  Thanks.

 Should be able to if there is an update on the servers:
 from a command line do; urpmi bind9 and hit enter. It should update  the
 package, assuming you have  a update source set  that has that rpm.

Thanks Dennis, so the first thing I must do is to setup an update media using 
the syntax from easy urpmi? 
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Re: [newbie] online update certain package only

2004-04-24 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 24 April 2004 07:46 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 On Sunday 25 April 2004 02:47 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Saturday 24 April 2004 09:15 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
   Hi all,
   Can I do an online upgrade for certain package only?
   For example I want to update my bind9 into newer version. Can I do
   this? Thanks.
 
  Should be able to if there is an update on the servers:
  from a command line do; urpmi bind9 and hit enter. It should update  the
  package, assuming you have  a update source set  that has that rpm.

 Thanks Dennis, so the first thing I must do is to setup an update media
 using the syntax from easy urpmi?
right, easiest way is to go to easy urpmi  at :   
-- http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php   and follow the instructions to get 
mirrors for the version of ML OS you are using..  get  Main and Contribs and 
updates for sure and plf for some of the fun stuff. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Seti on Mandrake 10

2004-04-24 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 24 April 2004 07:12 pm, Sentinel SME wrote:
 On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:00:19 -0500

 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --
  Dennis M. Linux user #180842

 Thank you Dennis.

 Have now done this and it is working fine here :)

 Cheers

 Ltwt
Great, always nice to meet another searcher. : )
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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2004-04-24 Thread John Wilson
On April 24, 2004 04:11 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah!

Ahhh, if I didn't know you were orginally from Detroit I'd have figured it out 
with this.  Just like the auto industry in the 70s hanging on like grim death 
to something that isn't as good as the newer stuff. :-)

Either that or you're looking for Old Fossil of The Week Award. 

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Another Xfce convert!

2004-04-24 Thread Marv Boyes
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 12:09, Marv Boyes wrote:
 

My only gripe is that I can't figure out how to make a particular window 
always on top-- it's the one feature of KDE I really miss. Xfce's 
panel will do it; does anybody know if there's a way to make a window do 
it, as well?
   

RIGHT-CLICK on the title bar, choose STICK

 

Naw, all that does is slap the window up across all of my workspaces. 
What I meant was, is there any way to have one particular window always 
on top, no matter which window I'm working in? For example: under KDE, I 
could have, say, a terminal window open and set it to Always on top, 
then type something in another window while reading output from the 
terminal window, which would never be covered by another window (think 
Xfce's panel layer set to Top).

It's not a deal-breaker as far as Xfce4 is concerned, but it was one 
workspace management feature of KDE that I really liked.

Thanks,
Marv
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Re: [newbie] online update certain package only

2004-04-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 24 April 2004 09:28 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
-On Saturday 24 April 2004 07:46 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
- On Sunday 25 April 2004 02:47 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
-  On Saturday 24 April 2004 09:15 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
-   Hi all,
-   Can I do an online upgrade for certain package only?
-   For example I want to update my bind9 into newer version. Can I do
-   this? Thanks.
- 
-  Should be able to if there is an update on the servers:
-  from a command line do; urpmi bind9 and hit enter. It should update 
 the -  package, assuming you have  a update source set  that has that
 rpm. -
- Thanks Dennis, so the first thing I must do is to setup an update media
- using the syntax from easy urpmi?
-right, easiest way is to go to easy urpmi  at :
--- http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php   and follow the instructions to
 get -mirrors for the version of ML OS you are using..  get  Main and
 Contribs and -updates for sure and plf for some of the fun stuff. HTH
-Dennis M. Linux user #180842

I have to comment here - most of the time, what Dennis is saying works just 
great. *Most* of the time. Some packages just don't seem to cut and run like 
this though.

Example- Mplayer. I've got PLF setup as a source, as well as eslrahc and the 
club internet places. So I tried a simple urpmi mplayer when I thought a 
newer versions was out.

A list of files that needed to be removed and updated was given - a very long 
list of files. Including some apps that just seemed to have nothing to do 
with Mplayer.

To make a long story short, Mplayer never worked right after that. I ended up 
removing (manually) everything Mplayer related and re-installing them (and 
Mplayer).

Don't get me wrong folks - I think urpmi rocks! and rules! but sometimes...its 
not all peaches 'n cream... :-)

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