Re: [newbie] Nvidia GF4 MX 440 wont work generic drivers in Mandrake

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:53, Thomas Wilkowski wrote:

 1. Do I need an NVIDIA-kernel to get the generic
 drivers to work with this card?
 2. Without a graphical interface how can I download
 and install the official nvidia drivers if that is
 what it is going to take?
 3. Could the move have loused up the system in such a
 way that I would have to reinstall? I really doubt
 this, I mean its not like its a windoze partition.

1.) If you just change drives over - um, I think you're going to have
issues with the new hardware; you going to have to boot into console
mode and run XFdrake to reset the monitor settings and the video card
settings...

2.) The official NVidia drivers ARE part of the MDK 10.0 OE
installation.

3.) See number one.

ONE of the things you can do is let the machine get all the way to the
black screen - then hit CTRL-ALT-F2 - this SHOULD bring you to a
console login...login as the root user, run XFdrake, and get all the
settings right...

YET another reason why I prefer a console login to a graphical login -
easier to troubleshoot, easier to fix X problems, and not as much system
resource overload by just having GDM (or similar) running in the
background...

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Re: [newbie] A little guidence

2004-07-30 Thread KLG
Hello Shawn,
I have been using MDK 10 for a month or so now. So far I have been unable to
find documentation on MDK 10.  Closest we can find is documentaion of 9.2
which is found at:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3
I think most of these manuals can be used with MDK 10 also. Because core
concept and command line utilities are same. I am also learning Linux with
the help of these fine people List. They have been source or great knowledge
and encouragement. If you find any docs about MDK 10, please do mention in
list.
Regards
Kanwar Lal

- Original Message - 
From: Shawn Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: [newbie] A little guidence


 Good afternoon all

 I am new to the Linux Community and have recently been seeking out some
 good resources (books, sites) which will give me a clearer idea of the
 functionality of Mandrake Linux 10.0.

 If anyone would happen to know any good sites which contain
 documentation regarding line based commands of write ups of the GUI
 components of Mandrake 10.0 i would be most appreciative.

 Thank you in advance,
 Shawn Miller (newbie)








 
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Frank
The clean install without formating the /home partition will leave your 
past work retrievable, I had no problems doing this. [ This assumes you 
have a separate /home partition. - Great having it for things like this.]

As to  'QingHua' comment about it being better than 9.1 - Not here it 
ain't. The problems I have remind me alot of my windows days. At least 
MDK10 appears to recover better and lilo has not acted up once - pluses 
for carrying on with it. Trouble is it takes a reboot to recover. Now 
that is too much like windows.

Regards
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Q.H.Wang wrote:
Hi people,
I have done an update from 9.1 to 10.0. Basically it's sucessful. Almost all
the applications I installed with 9.1 are untouched in this update, though
some of them need to start from scratch (run as the first time). There is an
exception. Matlab can not start Java Virtual Machine, thus the command
window disappears. Maybe I need to install it again, or maybe I can fix it
by just installing Java package. Does anyone have similar experience? TIA.
By the way, MDK 10.0 is much better than 9.1. Cheers!
Bests,
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Q.H. Wang
As for me, so far so good with 10.0.

Now that is too much like windows.

It's more like Windows than 9.1 but not too much from my point of view.





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[newbie] Current scanners - Done!

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
Marco Verheul wrote:
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 22:05, Lanman wrote:
Dear List; I'm looking to buy a new flatbed scanner which will work 
seamlessly with Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0. If anyone on the list has 
recently purchased a new scanner and had an easy time setting it up, 
could you please let me know? I'm also hoping that this scanner can be 
shared by the host PC to 2 or 3 other PC's on the network, but this 
isn't critical.

Thanks In Advance,..
Lanman

I have an Epson Perfection 1260. Runs on 9.1 and 10.0.
Cheers, Marco
Thanks Marco and everyone else who sent me suggestions for a scanner. 
The Canon CanoScan LiDE30 was won the door prize and will be picked up 
later this morning.

I'll let you know how well it goes.
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Re: [newbie] How does one print man pages.

2004-07-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 29 July 2004 19:55, Chris wrote:
 On Thursday 29 July 2004 05:28 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 03:56, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
   There has to be a better way to print man pages than to use
   copy/paste. Please give me a clue?
 
  Here's a quick way to create a nice poscript printable man page:
 
  man nameofcommand | col -b  nameofcommand.ps
 
  ..then simply print out the ps file, or import it into like OO or
  whatever...

 Or you can make it a pdf file:

 ps2pdf filename.ps
Hadnt thought of that but might prove useful.
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Re: [newbie] Finally - an ad we can enjoy.

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
Steve Jeppesen wrote:
less than a week later, and it's been taken offline already...least that
address is no good anymore :(
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:10:30 +0200
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Friends, although it is Linspire, it´s still Linux :
http://www.linspire.com/RunLinspireFlash.php
Turn your sound volume up and have a good laugh.
Kaj Haulrich.

Microsoft and a record company or two probably threatened them with a 
lawsuit over it. I doubt Microsoft would have given them the right to 
use the WindowsXP logo or graphics, and I'm not sure that some of the 
record labels would have been too happy about the use of the original 
Doors music score either.

Good thing that half the planet downloaded it to their own systems first!
Now all we have to do is to watch the Internet news sites for Microsoft 
launching a lawsuit against Lindows. I'm sure they'll try to put an 
interesting spin on it regarding Linux as a whole being a cancer or 
virus or filled with hackers code!

And they call us paranoid?
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Re: [newbie] libstdc++.so.6

2004-07-30 Thread Q.H. Wang

 /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.4.0/libstdc++.so
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.0

It's a bit strange. After my update to 10.0, my GCC is 3.3.2 thus I only have
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.5

Is this a side effect of just update, not clean installation?

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Re: [newbie] Re: ADSL connection configuration not saved.

2004-07-30 Thread Anguo
On Friday 30 July 2004 02:06 am, Bjrn Lundin wrote:
 I had it before, with a beta mdk 10. I resolved it by
 launching the wizard, and then check the commandline it
 used, with (I think) ps -ef | grep perl


 then I ran it manually as root from Konsole, and found
 out it didn't find some config file. I just did a touch
 on that file (into it's correct location) and ran the
 wizard again. It was happy after that.

Hello Bjrn,

Thank you for your reply.

I am still investigating what you told me. I'll see what 
happens next time I reboot. For now, I have:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] augustin]# drakconnect
error reading information on service tmdns: 
No such file or directory
error reading information on service zcip: 
No such file or directory
Shutting down interface eth0:[  OK  ]
Shutting down interface eth1:[  OK  ]
Shutting down loopback interface:[  OK  ]
Setting network parameters:  [  OK  ]
Bringing up loopback interface:  [  OK  ]

but:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] services]# locate tmdns
/usr/postinstall-rpm/tmdns-0.1-12mdk.i586.rpm
/etc/netprofile/profiles/default/services/tmdns

and:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] services]# locate zcip
/usr/share/doc/zcip-4
/usr/share/doc/zcip-4/TODO
/usr/share/doc/zcip-4/README
/usr/share/doc/zcip-4/Copyright
/usr/share/doc/zcip-4/draft-ietf-zeroconf-ipv4-linklocal-07.txt
/usr/share/doc/zcip-4/Changelog
/usr/share/man/man8/zcip.8.bz2
/sbin/zcip
/var/lib/zcip

I also checked all the files mentionned below. I'll see if 
anything is missing next time I reboot:


18:32:36 drakconnect[4896]: ### Program is starting ### 
18:32:57 drakconnect[4935]: ### Program is starting ### 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: created directory /etc/ppp (and 
parents if necessary) 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: created file /etc/ppp/options 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: created file /etc/ppp/peers/adsl 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: modified 
file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: changed mode 
of /etc/ppp/pap-secrets to 600 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: modified 
file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: changed mode 
of /etc/ppp/chap-secrets to 600 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: modified 
file /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf 
18:33:17 drakconnect[4935]: created 
file /etc/sysconfig/drakconnect 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: launched 
command: /sbin/chkconfig --add internet 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: modified 
file /etc/sysconfig/network 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: removed 
files/directories /etc/resolv.conf 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: modified 
file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: written eth1 interface 
configuration in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: modified 
file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: written eth0 interface 
configuration in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: writing host information 
to /etc/hosts 
18:33:18 drakconnect[4935]: created file /etc/hosts 

thanks,


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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 30 July 2004 04:07, Frank wrote:
 The clean install without formating the /home partition will leave
 your past work retrievable, I had no problems doing this. [ This
 assumes you have a separate /home partition. - Great having it for
 things like this.]

 As to  'QingHua' comment about it being better than 9.1 - Not here it
 ain't. The problems I have remind me alot of my windows days. At
 least MDK10 appears to recover better and lilo has not acted up once
 - pluses for carrying on with it. Trouble is it takes a reboot to
 recover. Now that is too much like windows.

 Regards

 Frank

 Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve.
 Registered Linux User # 324213

 Q.H.Wang wrote:
 Hi people,
 
 I have done an update from 9.1 to 10.0. Basically it's sucessful.
  Almost all the applications I installed with 9.1 are untouched in
  this update, though some of them need to start from scratch (run as
  the first time). There is an exception. Matlab can not start Java
  Virtual Machine, thus the command window disappears. Maybe I need
  to install it again, or maybe I can fix it by just installing Java
  package. Does anyone have similar experience? TIA.
 
 By the way, MDK 10.0 is much better than 9.1. Cheers!
 
 Bests,
 
 QingHua
A lot of the problems are probably coming from not doing a clean 
install.  Backup /home to a cd and format /home and everything else for 
a clean install.
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[newbie] Image comparison.

2004-07-30 Thread Sujit Apte
Folks,
This question is not directly related to Linux but some other stuff.
I am in search of utility which will enable me to find difference 
between 2 images.
It will compare images pixel by pixel and notify the difference. User 
may give tolerance for comparison.
The images types can be JEPG,TIFF etc.

Does any body know about such utility ? Please let me know.
Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Q.H.Wang
My plan was to firstly update, and see what would happen. So far it sounds
good. If there are any problems I have to have clean installation. Thanks
anyway.

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 21:15, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

 A lot of the problems are probably coming from not doing a clean 
 install.  Backup /home to a cd and format /home and everything else for 
 a clean install.

I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and will
test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I like to
make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...

EITHER WHICH, though, Tina and I have tested things here and a clean
installation is by FAR the best way to go - and, as we found out, in
doing her upgrade from 9.2 to 10.0 OE, she was offered far less option
than was I - and my CLEAN installation caused no dramas with any of the
packages, none of the CD's or what-have-you; although, I did have the
Berillian Borks with my keyboard - and getting the dang cursor_themes to
work properly...but hey, just cuz I'm picky...

With that said, I'm actually poising myself for another clean
installation; being that I have a bit of time on my hands - so as to
back everything up to another server - and COMPLETELY wipe out all my
stuff - which is going to be a long project considering the file library
I keep along with the MP3 and Movie library (let alone the personal
stuff and pr0n, ya know)

Back to the trenches...

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Re: [newbie] Image comparison.

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 21:22, Sujit Apte wrote:
 Folks,
 
 This question is not directly related to Linux but some other stuff.
 
 I am in search of utility which will enable me to find difference 
 between 2 images.
 It will compare images pixel by pixel and notify the difference. User 
 may give tolerance for comparison.
 The images types can be JEPG,TIFF etc.
 
 Does any body know about such utility ? Please let me know.
 
 Thanks,
 
 ~Sujit..

There have been a few utils like that on:

http://www.icewalk.com

and, of course,

http://freshmeat.net

I do believe, however, that the main gist of the development was for
motion detection...

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Q.H.Wang
 I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
 that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and will
 test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I like to
 make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...



I don't like your tone and attitude very much! Linux is a FREE world. People
can do what they want to do as their wishes.  I just want to post my
experience here that might be a bit useful. If you think it's nothing you
just simply skip it like most people do! You are not suppose to be the BIG
BROTHER who everybody must follows.



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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 22:51, Q.H.Wang wrote:
  I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
  that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and will
  test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I like to
  make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...
 
 
 
 I don't like your tone and attitude very much! Linux is a FREE world. People
 can do what they want to do as their wishes.  I just want to post my
 experience here that might be a bit useful. If you think it's nothing you
 just simply skip it like most people do! You are not suppose to be the BIG
 BROTHER who everybody must follows.

SARCASM, mate - chill out, take it easy - just being sarcastic. I didn't
mean to wee on your weetbix, my friend...

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 30 July 2004 08:51 am, Q.H.Wang wrote:
  I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
  that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and will
  test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I like to
  make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...

 I don't like your tone and attitude very much! Linux is a FREE world.
 People can do what they want to do as their wishes.  I just want to post my
 experience here that might be a bit useful. If you think it's nothing you
 just simply skip it like most people do! You are not suppose to be the BIG
 BROTHER who everybody must follows.

I don't think Stephen was aiming any comment at you, but was instead 
expressing general frustration at the upgrade process.  I think he meant 
that despite all of us that keep testing and trying it, the experience is not 
as good as a clean install.  He always finds it is much more work.

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[newbie] cgi-bin for virtual host

2004-07-30 Thread EE
I have the following vhost. How can I setup the cgi-bin for it?

VirtualHost127.0.0.1 
 ServerName www.xyz.com
DocumentRoot /var/www/html/xyz/htdocs
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Q.H.Wang
Sorry for my words, man. I confess I somehow misunderstood it.

I had a clean install on another PC but this time I got no luck. During the
course I was not able to confgiure the graphic card correctly (in MDK 9.1 I
remember it's Radeon 9000, but I could not find it in MDK 10.0) thus could
not install XFree 4.3. I will sort it out.

Bests,

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Re: [newbie] A little guidence

2004-07-30 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Hash: SHA1

On July 30, 2004 01:25:01, KLG wrote:
 Hello Shawn,
 I have been using MDK 10 for a month or so now. So far I have been unable
 to find documentation on MDK 10.  Closest we can find is documentaion of
 9.2 which is found at:
 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3
 I think most of these manuals can be used with MDK 10 also. Because core
 concept and command line utilities are same. I am also learning Linux with
 the help of these fine people List. They have been source or great
 knowledge and encouragement. If you find any docs about MDK 10, please do
 mention in list.
 Regards
 Kanwar Lal

If you can't find the documentation you either haven't been looking very hard 
or you looked in the wrong places. The Mandrake Documentation comes on the 
install disks. For 10.0 there was an update. Fetch that here:

ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/mandrake-doc-common-10.0-5.1.100mdk.noarch.rpm

You'll also need to fetch the language specific package for the language you 
use the distribution in. You should be able to find that opening a terminal, 
typing 
su 
then strike the Enter key to become super user and providing the root password 
when prompted, then type

mandrake-doc 

and strike the Enter key.

Have fun! KLG, please lose the Reply To: in your mail client for list posts? 
Thanks.

Regards;
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[newbie] Webmin

2004-07-30 Thread Eric Jackson

Hi,
I've just gotten back online after my always on broadband conection  
stoped working because of some problem outside my house.

I was looking at Webmin but I don't see any docs. Anyone know where the  
docs are? Or does anyone know of a good article on using Webmin? I don't  
know what to do first.

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[newbie] Keyboard hangs

2004-07-30 Thread Andre Tapxure Gabriel
Hi there!
If you can help me...
I Installed Mandrake 10 on my laptop (Compaq Presario X1010UX, PentiumM
1.3GHz, 512MB, 60GB, DVD e CDR-W) and my keyboard don't stop hanging...
Describing the problem
From time to time my keyboard stops to respond correctly, and when this
happens, the keys repeats like crazy... for example: If the keyboard hangs
when I type cd /etc eh stops responding and randomly it's repeat the keys I
typed
dd
 //eetttc
 So I MUST type (1000 times) CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart KDE...
SOme idea?!
Looks like this happens after a Idle time.


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Re: [newbie] a program to email upon website changes?

2004-07-30 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:41:52PM -0400, g2 wrote:
 folks,
 
 does anyone know of a program, hopefully, appropriate for a linux/mandrake 
 newbie, that will send an email with the text content of a website I specify.
 I know there are various web based services that do this, however none that I 
 have found meet my needs.  Specifically, the site that i need to track is a 
 simple text page, which some of the web services can't seem to deal with, and 
 I want to check it for changes often, like every 15 minutes, many only offer 
 hourly or even daily checking.
 Any thoughts?

I can't help with an program that will email you, but did you know that
Mozilla/Firefox has a feature that will notify you if a bookmarked site you
specify is updated? Go to Manage Bookmarks, click the bookmark you're
interested in, click Properties, and check out Schedule and Nofify.

Also, it should be easy to write a bash script to do what you
want--retrieve the page with wget, compare it to the last version by
running diff or something, if there's no change do nothing, if there is
email yourself an alert.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Erylon Hines
|On Friday 30 July 2004 05:23 am, Stephen Kühn wrote:
| On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 21:15, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
|  A lot of the problems are probably coming from not doing a clean
|  install.  Backup /home to a cd and format /home and everything else for
|  a clean install.
|
| I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
| that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and will
| test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I like to
| make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...

As you'all know, I have always felt that Mandrake is a cutting edge distro.  
When a new release comes out, I will only install it on an experimental box, 
and then only if I really have the time to mess with it and find if I can get 
it working to my satisfaction.  If anyone is interested, I still haven't 
installed any flavor of 10 because I don't have the time to deal with the new 
set of problems that seems to be cropping up (and 9.2 works perfectly for me, 
across numerous installs).  Whether the problems are kernel-related with 2.6, 
or Mandrake-tools related, or a combination of the two, I don't know.  10 
works perfectly for a lot of people, and is a major PITA for others.  If you 
like living on the bleeding edge--go for it.  If you only have one box, my 
own opinion is that you should install 9.2, unless you have a piece of 
hardware that will absolutely, positively not work with 9.2.  Or, install 
SuSe, which tends to be a generation behind Mandrake, although you can still 
have issues that are kernel related (and SuSe tools and layout sucks, 
compared to Mandrake's).

Just my worthless opinion

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Re: [newbie] Webmin

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
Eric Jackson wrote:

Hi,
I've just gotten back online after my always on broadband conection  
stoped working because of some problem outside my house.

I was looking at Webmin but I don't see any docs. Anyone know where the  
docs are? Or does anyone know of a good article on using Webmin? I 
don't  know what to do first.

Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Eric; See if this helps.
http://www.webmin.com/index2.html
Lanman

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[newbie] automount smb shares

2004-07-30 Thread Lee Wiggers
Okay, I'm one simple step from success.

All 7 boxes, mdk9.2,10.0, and win2k are all sharing files as smb
shares.  One box is set to force and win elections, but if it is
down I don't lose the rest.

Can I automount all shares at boot, or when smb service starts?

Lee


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Re: [newbie] automount smb shares

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
Lee Wiggers wrote:
Okay, I'm one simple step from success.
All 7 boxes, mdk9.2,10.0, and win2k are all sharing files as smb
shares.  One box is set to force and win elections, but if it is
down I don't lose the rest.
Can I automount all shares at boot, or when smb service starts?
Lee

Lee; You should be able to use LinNeiborhood to set up your mount points 
per system, and somewhere in it's title bar menu is a little utility 
called Create Mountscript which will take the mounted shares and put 
them in a desktop shortcut that you can click on as needed.

That way, you can mount the shares if they're needed, and they'll stay 
mounted until you log off. You might need to switch to root so that you 
can change the permissions of the mountscript icon on your users' 
desktop one time, but that's about it.

HTH
Lanman

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Re: [newbie] automount smb shares

2004-07-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Lee Wiggers wrote:
Okay, I'm one simple step from success.
All 7 boxes, mdk9.2,10.0, and win2k are all sharing files as smb
shares.  One box is set to force and win elections, but if it is
down I don't lose the rest.
Can I automount all shares at boot, or when smb service starts?
Lee
I am not sure exactly what you are asking here.  If you want a machine 
to mount remote Samba shares when it boots, that is not problem.  You do 
not need the smb service running on a machine to mount remote shates. 
If there is an entry in /etc/fstab for the share, the system will try to 
mount it.  (Unless the mount is marked noauto.)  The bad part if that if 
the server is down, you will get a delay while booting, while mount 
times out.  You get the same delay with NFS mounted shares.

If what you are after is to have the remote machines mount the shares 
when the server boots, and starts Samba, then it is not so easy.  You 
could probably create a script that watches the Samba log files, and 
waits for the server to win the election, and then mounts the shares. 
But this will only work on machines running nmbd.  There may be a better 
way, but I have never had to do it...

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:51:30 +0100
Q.H.Wang disseminated the following:

 I don't like your tone and attitude very much!

And this is a concern of ours because...

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[newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
To: Our Gang;
Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package list of 
all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system, I've added, 
updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like to create a 
repository of the packages that are currently installed.

That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to recover 
from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package list from my 
original install, but I'm looking for an updated list.

Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas? 
suggestions?

TIA
Lanman

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[newbie] Kmail problem

2004-07-30 Thread Alan Dunford

I need a little help, please, in setting up Kmail again.  A 
couple of days ago I added a Smart Media card reader to one of 
my USB ports and (I assume a bug in the driver) as a result the 
machine would not then boot.  Later the USB driver was updated 
and I noted that a bug had in fact been corrected.

The start up problem was then sorted using Mandake 10's CDs to 
upgrade the OS and then all was well except that previously I 
had been able to fire up a URL within Kmail and now cannot do 
so.  I don't remember having to do anything previously to create 
a link here (I think to Konqueror) and cannot find anything to 
help in the help files.

I imagine the problem is very simple and basic but it is also 
proving frustrating and annoying.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Alan

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[newbie] Switching from SuSE to Mandrake.

2004-07-30 Thread Larry Johnson KISE
Hi all

I've used SuSE for over five years, mostly in servers, and have been
experimenting with getting a workable desktop adjunct or replacement for
Windows.  Each successive SuSE distribution had come closer for my needs
with the exception of SuSE 9.0. which had major problems (e.g. taking over 9
minutes to boot).

I had lots of great help from the SuSE users on the mailing list but no help
from SuSE.  In the end it was an apparently buggy USB/hotplug boot processes
with no alternative except SuSE 9.1 - and it was having problems too.  My
motherboard has 4 USB 1.1 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports - probably the hardware
stimulus for the boot problems).

So I downloaded Slackware, Debian and Mandrake - and Mandrake 10.0 was a
breath of fresh air.  Here are the high points…

- Boot time:  9 minutes *to* 90 seconds.

- Scanner: doesn't work except as superuser *to* works fine with normal user
after installation with no additional configuration.

- DualHead display: Requires trial and error with YAST *to* works after
installation with no additional configuration.

- Installation options: None available (to avoid problematic boot processes)
*to* available (e.g. disable hotplug).

- Vendor support: Promised, needed and non-existent *to* not needed.

- USB: problematic *to* no problems.

- KDE: Works OK *to* improved screen presentation e.g. more suitable
configuration from install.

- Speed: Slower than Win2K *to* Faster than Win2K and much faster than SuSE
9.0

- Kernel: 2.4… optimized for AMD *to* 2.6… not optimized.

- Ease of installation: Very long with moderate difficulty *to* fast and
easy.

- Graphic installation: Pretty but sometimes confusing *to* simple and
straightforward.

- Printer: Worked after additional configuration *to* worked after
installation with no additional configuration.

- GRUB: Restore MBR fails *to* Restore MBR works.

- VGA boot screen: flips back and forth from graphic to text, text hard to
read *to* easy to read (except it goes so fast) text mode.

- User group support: Great *to* too soon to tell but looks good.

I don't want to start a big X vs. Y thread here, I'm sure there are many
features of SuSE that are better than Mandrake, but here I'm focusing on the
problems I had with SuSE that basically made it unusable for me as a
desktop.

Look forward to working with the Mandrake community…

Larry Johnson, KeepItSimpleEngineering,Inc.



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Re: [newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote:
 To: Our Gang;

 Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package list of
 all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system, I've added,
 updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like to create a
 repository of the packages that are currently installed.

 That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to recover
 from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package list from my
 original install, but I'm looking for an updated list.

 Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas?
 suggestions?


 TIA

 Lanman

/var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want.

It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and diffing. 
GRIN

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Re: [newbie] automount smb shares

2004-07-30 Thread LtCdData


On Friday 30 Jul 2004 H:02, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 Okay, I'm one simple step from success.

 All 7 boxes, mdk9.2,10.0, and win2k are all sharing files as smb
 shares.  One box is set to force and win elections, but if it is
 down I don't lose the rest.

 Can I automount all shares at boot, or when smb service starts?

 Lee

yes 

eg one of the lines i added  to my /etc/fstab file for a share to  my linux2 
box reads
 //linux2/movies /var/ftp/pub/movies smbfs username=% 0 0
i use for extending my ftp server harddrive space to linux2 mounts at  boot 


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Re: [newbie] Switching from SuSE to Mandrake.

2004-07-30 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On July 30, 2004 13:13:01, Larry Johnson KISE wrote:

broadaxed
 Hi all

Howdy and Welcome Home!

Now please drop the Reply To: mail client setting and we'll be fine. Or 
don't post with Outhouse errr sorry! Outlook. grin

You may find the Community Encyclopedia useful when searching for Mandrake 
specific answers:

http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

Enjoy!

Charlie

P.S.: If you think 10.0 is good wait 'til you see what they're doing to 10.1.
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[newbie] mplayer xvideo adapters

2004-07-30 Thread deedee emrys
I'm trying to get mplayer to work on a 9.1 Mandrake system. After going 
through the logs and correcting a bunch of problems, I am unable to receive video 
output and get the following error message from mplayer:

Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (:0.0 = local 
display)

I ran 'xvinfo' as suggested in the logs and got the following:

X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
 no adaptors present

The video card is SiS650/651/740 GUI 2D/3D Accelerator. Mandrake 
indicates the kernel module is unknown and media class is 
display_vga.

mplayer -vo help produced a list of 22 available drivers, including 
xv, x11, ggi, and so forth. 

The other remaining error concerns fonts:

font: can't open file: $HOME/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc

My system doesn't have the file /font/font.desc -- I did a search and 
it doesn't appear to exist.

I installed mplayer from a Mandrake 9.1 binary, 
mplayer-0.90-0.rc4.5.91mdk.i586.rpm.

Any ideas on how I can get video output from mplayer?

Thanks,
deedee

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Re: [newbie] Kmail problem

2004-07-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 30 July 2004 02:50 pm, Alan Dunford wrote:
-
-I need a little help, please, in setting up Kmail again.  A
-couple of days ago I added a Smart Media card reader to one of
-my USB ports and (I assume a bug in the driver) as a result the
-machine would not then boot.  Later the USB driver was updated
-and I noted that a bug had in fact been corrected.
-
-The start up problem was then sorted using Mandake 10's CDs to
-upgrade the OS and then all was well except that previously I
-had been able to fire up a URL within Kmail and now cannot do
-so.  I don't remember having to do anything previously to create
-a link here (I think to Konqueror) and cannot find anything to
-help in the help files.
-
-I imagine the problem is very simple and basic but it is also
-proving frustrating and annoying.
-
-Any help would be much appreciated.
-
-Thanks
-
-Alan

Alan, I know in the KDE control center there is a place where you can set all 
your file associations, but what has always worked for me is to:

1. Open /home/youruser
2. Right click, pick create new HTML file (name it anything you want)
3. Right click on this file, pick Edit file type
4. Pick whatever browser you want to open it with, and move it to the top of 
the list. Its now the default

Now, when you open a (html) URL in Kmail, it will use the default browser.

HTHs!

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RE: [newbie] Switching from SuSE to Mandrake.

2004-07-30 Thread Larry Johnson KISE

Hi Walt…

My problems were related (apparently) to the SuSE boot process and the fact that
my mother board has 4 USB 1.1 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports.  When I disabled the 4
USB 1.1 ports, the boot time would drop to 4 minutes.

The scanner would work for a user if you unplugged USB and then re-plugged it -
the scanner has no power button and, alas, the USB connection is on the back.

SuSE 9.0 could configure DualHead but the process was undocumented and following
normal protocols would fail the configuration.  It helped to have configured it
for SuSE 8.2 after upgrading xf86 (8.e did not support multiple monitors).

The hotplug problems were discussed in mail lists at hotplug projects at
sourceforge by SuSE developers at the time 9.0 was released.

After the long boot, SuSE 9.0 was ok except that it was very slow and (according
to xload) really demanded a lot from the os/cpu.  I don't know why.  Mandrake
10.0 is very much faster on my AMD workstation.

No one on the SuSE list complained about long boots.  Perhaps because during the
install SuSE would become unresponsive for long periods and they gave up at that
point.  After several attempts to install, I just let it run and the
installation succeeded.

Strangely enough, I upgraded from 8.2 to 9.0 originally and begin to get many
warning about configuration files being wrong, and also an extended boot time
(about three minutes, up from 1-2 minutes with 8.2).

Later, when GRUB started being unresponsive for a long time during boot, I
decided to go with a clean install to fix those annoyances, and that's when
all the problems began.

Larry Johnson, KeepItSimpleEngineering,Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: WaltFrampus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:38
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Switching from SuSE to Mandrake.


 On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:13, Larry Johnson KISE wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I've used SuSE for over five years, mostly in servers, and have been
  experimenting with getting a workable desktop adjunct or replacement for
  Windows.  Each successive SuSE distribution had come closer for my needs
  with the exception of SuSE 9.0. which had major problems (e.g. taking over 9
  minutes to boot).
 
  It's funny, I had problems with mandrake 10.0 and no problems with Suse
 9.1 on my desktop. I still use Mandrake 10 on my laptop with no
 problems. I have been using Mandrake for 5 years now and am loyal to
 them and will still use their distro.

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Re: [newbie] mplayer xvideo adapters

2004-07-30 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On July 30, 2004 14:15:02, deedee emrys wrote:
 I'm trying to get mplayer to work on a 9.1 Mandrake system. After going
 through the logs and correcting a bunch of problems, I am unable to receive
 video output and get the following error message from mplayer:

 Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
 vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (:0.0 = local
 display)

Not with that graphics adapter you won't! Reduce the resolution and the 
depth if you actually want anything usable.

 I ran 'xvinfo' as suggested in the logs and got the following:

 X-Video Extension version 2.2
 screen #0
  no adaptors present

 The video card is SiS650/651/740 GUI 2D/3D Accelerator. Mandrake
 indicates the kernel module is unknown and media class is
 display_vga.

What kernel? Have you upgraded? I'd at least install the multi-media kernel 
that was available in contribs, but there should have been at least one 
update kernel available as well.

I also vaguely recall from customer's budget boxes with that chipset that 
the SiS chipset wasn't fully supported until at least 9.2 or 10.0. I could be 
wrong though since I have a list of customer systems and routinely back them 
up and do a frsh install of the latest release of Mandrake.

 mplayer -vo help produced a list of 22 available drivers, including
 xv, x11, ggi, and so forth.

 The other remaining error concerns fonts:

 font: can't open file: $HOME/.mplayer/font/font.desc
 font: can't open file: /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc

 My system doesn't have the file /font/font.desc -- I did a search and
 it doesn't appear to exist.

There's a newer mplayer for 9.1 from PLF. See below.

 I installed mplayer from a Mandrake 9.1 binary,
 mplayer-0.90-0.rc4.5.91mdk.i586.rpm.

That's the correct package for 9.1 Official. It's from the updates 
directory. But there's a newer one from PLF.

 Any ideas on how I can get video output from mplayer?

 Thanks,
 deedee

Try adding a plf source so you can install all of the questionable audio and 
video codecs. In a terminal as super user paste this:

urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/10.0 with 
hdlist.cz

and strike the Enter key. Then do

urpmi mplayer [Enter]

Or even:

urpmi --auto-select [Enter]

to do it all at once but be careful with that one! There are no guarantess and 
I don't know what other sources you have defined for packages.

Let the list know if any of it helps? Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 30 July 2004 14:30, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote:
  To: Our Gang;
 
  Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package
  list of all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system,
  I've added, updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like
  to create a repository of the packages that are currently
  installed.
 
  That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to
  recover from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package
  list from my original install, but I'm looking for an updated list.
 
  Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas?
  suggestions?
 
 
  TIA
 
  Lanman

 /var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want.

 It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and
 diffing. GRIN

 Charlie
Perhaps you mean '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms'?
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 23:15, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Friday 30 July 2004 08:51 am, Q.H.Wang wrote:
   I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
   that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and will
   test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I like to
   make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...
 
  I don't like your tone and attitude very much! Linux is a FREE world.
  People can do what they want to do as their wishes.  I just want to post my
  experience here that might be a bit useful. If you think it's nothing you
  just simply skip it like most people do! You are not suppose to be the BIG
  BROTHER who everybody must follows.
 
 I don't think Stephen was aiming any comment at you, but was instead 
 expressing general frustration at the upgrade process.  I think he meant 
 that despite all of us that keep testing and trying it, the experience is not 
 as good as a clean install.  He always finds it is much more work.
 
 At least that's how I read it.

Yeah - what he said.

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Re: [newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
Hoyt Bailey wrote:
On Friday 30 July 2004 14:30, Charlie Mahan wrote:
On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote:
To: Our Gang;
Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package
list of all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system,
I've added, updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like
to create a repository of the packages that are currently
installed.
That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to
recover from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package
list from my original install, but I'm looking for an updated list.
Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas?
suggestions?
TIA
Lanman
/var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want.
It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and
diffing. GRIN
Charlie
Perhaps you mean '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms'?
Hoyt; Thanks for the suggestion, but '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms' is where 
rpms are temporarily stored until urpmi is ready to install all rpms 
that have been selected by the user. Once all the rpms required are 
download to this folder, urpmi then installs from that location.

What I'm actually looking for is a detailed list of the rpms which would 
be currently installed on a system, not every package or rpms that was 
ever installed on a system.

Charlie suggested that I try /var/log/rpmpkgs , but that doesn't seem to 
be accurate since I see rpms in that list that were recently removed 
from the system.

I'm hoping that I can build a list of the exact rpms which are currently 
installed and use it as a guide for creating an archive of those exact 
rpms. Once those rpms are archived, I can then burn a CD or DVD of those 
rpms and take them to friends and clients and do a very fast update to 
any of them, assuming that they're already running Mandrake 10.0.

urpmi *rpm would do the trick once the CD or DVD had been mounted, and 
I could work on another system while that was going on. Since I have 
rpms from Charles, PLF, Contribs, etc., I'd like to have the current 
ones rapidly available for install on new systems as well.

Isn't there supposed to be an rpms database on my system? How does urpmi 
keep track of what's installed? Hmmm, back to the drawing board!

Lanman

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Re: [newbie] Webmin

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 01:23, Eric Jackson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've just gotten back online after my always on broadband conection  
 stoped working because of some problem outside my house.
 
 I was looking at Webmin but I don't see any docs. Anyone know where the  
 docs are? Or does anyone know of a good article on using Webmin? I don't  
 know what to do first.
 
 Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In all reality, I've always went directly to the webmin site for
anything I didn't understand or wasn't able to click on within webmin
itself...

What kinda info are you after?

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 04:44, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:51:30 +0100
 Q.H.Wang disseminated the following:
 
  I don't like your tone and attitude very much!
 
 And this is a concern of ours because...

It better well bloody be a concern of YOURS, Mr. List Nazi - else I'll
walk my butt across the Southern Pacific, the the coast of Mejico,
across that bland barren mid-west US, cross that border, and slap you
with a trout!

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kühn wrote:
It better well bloody be a concern of YOURS, Mr. List Nazi - else I'll
walk my butt across the Southern Pacific, the the coast of Mejico,
across that bland barren mid-west US, cross that border, and slap you
with a trout!
I hate it when that happens! Still, it would be nice to get Stephen up 
here for a visit! We could go to all the Microsoft users groups meetings 
(a.k.a. Emotional support groups),and laugh our asses off, while firing 
up our Mandrake-Powered laptops!

Just a thought Stephen, but it would be a lot of fun, eh?
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Re: [newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On July 30, 2004 15:57:03, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 On Friday 30 July 2004 14:30, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote:
   To: Our Gang;
  
   Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package
   list of all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system,
   I've added, updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like
   to create a repository of the packages that are currently
   installed.
  
   That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to
   recover from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a package
   list from my original install, but I'm looking for an updated list.
  
   Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas?
   suggestions?
  
  
   TIA
  
   Lanman
 
  /var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want.
 
  It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and
  diffing. GRIN
 
  Charlie

 Perhaps you mean '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms'?

Or perhaps not Hoyt. That's where the packages go before they're installed but 
unless you use a no-clean or keep flag that directory gets emptied after all 
transactions are finished.

The file that I posted about is where everything that has been installed is 
listed.

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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 30 July 2004 06:24 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 23:15, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Friday 30 July 2004 08:51 am, Q.H.Wang wrote:
I just don't know how many more times I've got to see it - and those
that have upgaded before, even...tested it time and time again, and
will test it the next time as well - but still - it's only because I
like to make extra work for myself and see all the nasties...
  
   I don't like your tone and attitude very much! Linux is a FREE world.
   People can do what they want to do as their wishes.  I just want to
   post my experience here that might be a bit useful. If you think it's
   nothing you just simply skip it like most people do! You are not
   suppose to be the BIG BROTHER who everybody must follows.
 
  I don't think Stephen was aiming any comment at you, but was instead
  expressing general frustration at the upgrade process.  I think he
  meant that despite all of us that keep testing and trying it, the
  experience is not as good as a clean install.  He always finds it is much
  more work.
 
  At least that's how I read it.

 Yeah - what he said.

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Re: [newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On July 30, 2004 16:24:04, Lanman wrote:

 Hoyt; Thanks for the suggestion, but '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms' is where
 rpms are temporarily stored until urpmi is ready to install all rpms
 that have been selected by the user. Once all the rpms required are
 download to this folder, urpmi then installs from that location.

 What I'm actually looking for is a detailed list of the rpms which would
 be currently installed on a system, not every package or rpms that was
 ever installed on a system.

 Charlie suggested that I try /var/log/rpmpkgs , but that doesn't seem to
 be accurate since I see rpms in that list that were recently removed
 from the system.

 I'm hoping that I can build a list of the exact rpms which are currently
 installed and use it as a guide for creating an archive of those exact
 rpms. Once those rpms are archived, I can then burn a CD or DVD of those
 rpms and take them to friends and clients and do a very fast update to
 any of them, assuming that they're already running Mandrake 10.0.

 urpmi *rpm would do the trick once the CD or DVD had been mounted, and
 I could work on another system while that was going on. Since I have
 rpms from Charles, PLF, Contribs, etc., I'd like to have the current
 ones rapidly available for install on new systems as well.

 Isn't there supposed to be an rpms database on my system? How does urpmi
 keep track of what's installed? Hmmm, back to the drawing board!

 Lanman

That file holds the changes made to the rpm database by updating, adding, and 
removing packages. I thought that's what you were after, sorry. The only 
other file I can think of that might hold relevant data would be the 
urpmi.log, but once again I think that one holds information all the way back 
to first install.

In the /root directory there's a drakx sub directory that holds an image file 
used for replaying the install. Is that the one you mean?

I'll shut up now.

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Force it!!!
If it breaks, well, it wasn't working anyway...
No, don't force it, get a bigger hammer.
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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 09:01, Lanman wrote:
 Stephen Kühn wrote:
 
  It better well bloody be a concern of YOURS, Mr. List Nazi - else I'll
  walk my butt across the Southern Pacific, the the coast of Mejico,
  across that bland barren mid-west US, cross that border, and slap you
  with a trout!
 
 I hate it when that happens! Still, it would be nice to get Stephen up 
 here for a visit! We could go to all the Microsoft users groups meetings 
 (a.k.a. Emotional support groups),and laugh our asses off, while firing 
 up our Mandrake-Powered laptops!
 
 Just a thought Stephen, but it would be a lot of fun, eh?
 
 Lanman

...but I'd end up in jail after bashing M$ junkies senseless with their
XP tablets and CE pda's...and prolly end up with a few public
drunkness tickets to boot...

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[newbie] What commands a package provides

2004-07-30 Thread JoeHill

I'm trying to figure out what the gnome-applets package provides, but 'man rpm'
is not getting me anywhere.

I tried rpm --provides gnome-applets, no go. What am I missing here (besides a
clue)?

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Re: [newbie] cgi-bin for virtual host

2004-07-30 Thread flesh.99
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:15:04 +0300, EE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have the following vhost. How can I setup the cgi-bin for it?
 
 VirtualHost127.0.0.1   
ServerName www.xyz.com
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html/xyz/htdocs
 /VirtualHost
 
 
 
 

That depends, do you want the cgi-bin to be seperate from the paths on
the web? To only execute scripts? To be off of the main html dir? To
be able to be a normal dir that also executes scripts? Or to have
scripts be executable from anywhere in the path?

Just a little more info and I can give you the lines you need :)

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Re: [newbie] Package list help.

2004-07-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 30 July 2004 17:24, Lanman wrote:
 Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  On Friday 30 July 2004 14:30, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 On July 30, 2004 12:44:12, Lanman wrote:
 To: Our Gang;
 
 Is there a command that will provide me with a detailed package
 list of all installed rpms? Since doing the install on my system,
 I've added, updated and removed quite a few of them, and I'd like
 to create a repository of the packages that are currently
 installed.
 
 That way, I can re-install them from a local source if I have to
 recover from a cooker install of 10.1. I know that I have a
  package list from my original install, but I'm looking for an
  updated list.
 
 Is it possible to extract the list from the RPM database? ideas?
 suggestions?
 
 
 TIA
 
 Lanman
 
 /var/log/rpmpkgs should show you what you want.
 
 It's plain text so it may just be easier than all the grepping and
 diffing. GRIN
 
 Charlie
 
  Perhaps you mean '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms'?

 Hoyt; Thanks for the suggestion, but '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms' is where
 rpms are temporarily stored until urpmi is ready to install all rpms
 that have been selected by the user. Once all the rpms required are
 download to this folder, urpmi then installs from that location.

 What I'm actually looking for is a detailed list of the rpms which
 would be currently installed on a system, not every package or rpms
 that was ever installed on a system.

 Charlie suggested that I try /var/log/rpmpkgs , but that doesn't seem
 to be accurate since I see rpms in that list that were recently
 removed from the system.

 I'm hoping that I can build a list of the exact rpms which are
 currently installed and use it as a guide for creating an archive of
 those exact rpms. Once those rpms are archived, I can then burn a CD
 or DVD of those rpms and take them to friends and clients and do a
 very fast update to any of them, assuming that they're already
 running Mandrake 10.0.

 urpmi *rpm would do the trick once the CD or DVD had been mounted,
 and I could work on another system while that was going on. Since I
 have rpms from Charles, PLF, Contribs, etc., I'd like to have the
 current ones rapidly available for install on new systems as well.

 Isn't there supposed to be an rpms database on my system? How does
 urpmi keep track of what's installed? Hmmm, back to the drawing
 board!

 Lanman
The reason I made the suggestion was because I couldnt find rpmpkgs.  I 
just looked again and found 2 of them.  Sorry if I caused any 
difficulty.
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Re: [newbie] What commands a package provides

2004-07-30 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:21:57 -0400
JoeHill wrote:

 What am I missing here (besides a
 clue)?


   -q as in rpm -q --provides




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Re: [newbie] Update from 9.1 to 10.0 done!

2004-07-30 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 08:37:07 +1000
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

   I don't like your tone and attitude very much!
  
  And this is a concern of ours because...
 
 It better well bloody be a concern of YOURS, Mr. List Nazi - else I'll
 walk my butt across the Southern Pacific, the the coast of Mejico,
 across that bland barren mid-west US, cross that border, and slap you
 with a trout!

Okay, but it's a long lineup, in fact you'd be better off heading *west* ;-)

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