Re: [newbie] External Drive

2004-08-29 Thread Johan Sch
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:17:01 -0500
Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just tried to use a USB external drive  in ML 10.0 My hopes were that ML 
 would detect it and add a icon to my desktop like my card reader did. I was 
 wrong, it was not that simple. Anyone have any ideas about how to get a 
 External HDD workinh in ML 10.0?
 
 TIA
 Marc
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Have you tried fdisk -l  .  will show all found drives.
mine loop like this..

fdisk -l
 snip.

Disk /dev/sda: 10.2 GB, 10242892800 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19846 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   1 500  251968+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2   * 501   19846 9750384   83  Linux

If so just create mount points in /mnt and enter in fstab.
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Re: [newbie] permission changes

2004-08-29 Thread Johan Sch
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:49:17 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:32, john wrote:
  Hello
  After reinstalling md10, several folders now show locked. Security
  settings are standard and I 'm not sure what happened to change these
  folders. Any advice on how to change them to normal settings would be
  appreciated.
 
  Thanks
  John
 
 When you add users to your system each user is allocated a User ID starting 
 from 501 upwards. (and a Group ID number the 'GID')
 It is the UID number in the header of each file which determines the 'owner' 
 
 If you have added your users in a different order to your last install, and 
 did not reformat the /home partition, then the preexisting files will have 
 the old UID/GID numbers.
 
 When reinstalling it is important to enter your users in the same sequence to 
 ensure they have the same UID/GID numbers as the previous install.
 
 To resolve it, as root change the owner of the /home folders.  It is easy 
 enough in KDE hit Alt+F2 then type 'kdesu konqueror' in the box to get a root 
 copy of konqueror, then right click on the home folders and select properties 
 to change the ownerships.
 
 
 
 derek
 
*
Another quick one . in console as su in the user directory for example.

chown -R username:username *

All files and dirs will be changed in a flash.


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Re: [newbie] mp3

2004-08-29 Thread András Keszei
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 06:08, David Wallis wrote:
 Hi
 Is it possible with Mandrake 10 and KDE to run a Creative Model PA-20 
 digital MP3Player
 Cheers
 David

Hi David,
Have one of them things and you won't be able to breathe life into it
under linux.  It has a proprietary file system, and won't even work in
windows without its own software.  Sometimes not even with that...
Actually it shares with my scanner and the program BioEdit in being the
reason I still have MSW on my machine.  I've even tried using it with an
mmc card that I wrote the music onto from linux, but the player won't
accept any filesystem other than its own.
Sorry to be the one to break this to you, although if you do find a
solution, let us know.
cheers
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Re: [newbie] Problem with MandrakeUpdate

2004-08-29 Thread John Wilson
On August 28, 2004 12:43 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 I removed all the media and, afterwards, I added all of them.
 Surprisingly, now, whenever I run MandrakeUpdate, all hdlists are
 updated at startup, which is not very convenient, specially if they are
 already updated. Any ideas to solve this?

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

MandrakeUpdate does this by default to make sure, I guess, it can pull down 
any needed dependancies too.  I'm not aware of any work around and it's never 
bothered me all that much. :)

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] webmin upgrade resets https-access??

2004-08-29 Thread Harald T ZIPKO
  After upgrading webmin to the actual version via webmin.com the hosts 
  are not accessible via https anymore??
  Not very safe, I guess... ;-)

 Having lived in Webmin for the past four years, I have never seen that
 with the exception of compiling from source; have you restarted the

I just used the built-in upgrade tool (downloading newest version from 
webmin.com...)

 webmin service? Have you rebooted?

Of course I did a restart of the service. Fact is that sometimes after 
an upgrade webmin gives the following message:

Webmin install complete. You can now login to https://localhost:1/ 
as root with your root password. warning: /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem 
saved as /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem.rpmsave

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Re: [newbie] host name changes (sometimes...?)

2004-08-29 Thread Harald T ZIPKO
  I am still not happy with my mdk-boxes for they sometimes chnange their
  hostnames provided during install process to something like '172' or
  similar (=eg that's just the beginning of the internal LAN adresses
  when the nic gets network information via dhcp).
 
  No matter how I change /etc/hosts, the host names _do_ change due to
  whatever reason - I can't figure this out...
 
 Look in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0  (or whatever)
 remove the line
 NEEDHOSTNAME

There's no entry like this :-(, strange...

 When you defined the interface there was a check box asking if you 
 wanted to get the hostname from the DHCP server.

I am using _static_ network settings - so the box should not get it's 
hostname from a dhcp server?
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Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
Greg Meyer wrote:
I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script
rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied.
Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas?
That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake switched the 
default de vice manager from devfs to udev.  You are a bad boy running cooker 
stuff and posting to the newbie list.  Seriously though, are you running 
cooker or a 10.1 beta.  if yes, you might want to check the cooker mailing 
list archives because I believe this was explained over there.
Greg,
I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a 
newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or 
not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download 
from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I 
have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker 
mailing list.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
Stephen Kühn wrote:
Look, you say your rarely use it; what DO you use it for? Best bet would
be to defrag it, then use either diskdrake or Partition Magic to resize
it; else you could whack another drive in there and balance out your
stuff...
Unfortunately, I have to use MS Windows for establishing a VPN 
connection from home to my work, where the servers are all Microsoft. I 
have not manage yet to use Linux for VPN connections, although I have 
tried hard.
VMWare?
I have heard that VMWare is expensive and does not operate well on slow 
machines; mine is a 4 years old computer with 256MB of ram and a Pentium 
III 600MHz.
Ah...hmm...and you've researched ALL the vpn clients for GNU/linux and
found none that work?
I do not know if I have researched all the VPN clients, but I have 
researched the following: freswan and pptp (pptp client).

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Poogle
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 13:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:50, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

 snip

  That is one good reason there are others.  Have you considered
  Win4linux or Crossover Office?

 /snip

 Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other
 applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a
 very special beast.

 Never mind Hoyt, Lyvim, John and all you nice people. My daughters
 Windows box stays off the net, she uses Linux for networking,
 there's peace in my home, in my mind and - hopefully on this fine
 list too.

 Have a good week-end, all.

 Kaj Haulrich.

Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive.  I got version 5 running 
using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran as having got it to 
run my curiosity moved on to other things. You can d/l a trial version of 
Crossover Office and give it a go
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Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP

2004-08-29 Thread Thereidos
W licie z sob, 28-08-2004, godz. 20:17, Steve pisze: 
snip
 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [newbie] rekall

2004-08-29 Thread jose usoz
  It seems the libxbsql is not present. Do you know the RPM for this
  file?
 
 
 The specific missing depend, devel(libxbsql), is provided by
 libxbsql0-devel-0.11-3mdk.i586.rpm.
 You will also need libxbsql0-0.11-3mdk.i586.rpm.
 
 Since you were using urpmi both should have been pulled-in if you
 have Contrib mirror set-up as 1 of your source locations for urpmi.

Thanks Charles, problem solved. You have a very useful site.

Saludos,
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Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-29 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote:
   I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a
   while.
  
   I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for
   the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me.
If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how
   did the first linux system get built?
  
   In other words, how can I create something that needs itself
   to be created?
  
   --
   /g
 
  On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to dig
  for links to the history but for some reason that answer is
  stuck in my feable and fallible old brain.
 
  C.

  That's my recollection too Charlie.  IIRC, Linus as much as
 said so, and asked the minix author if it was Ok for him to
 modify and distribute as OSS.  Fortunately the answer was yes.

Careful, that's SCO territory. There is no Minix code in Linux and never 
was, so Linux needed no such permission, any more than you needed 
Linus' permission to write your email.

It was, however, done that way. Read Just For Fun by Torvalds and 
Diamond for more information.

Some time ago I did the first step of this process. I built a 32000 
computer from scratch and hand assembled a simple operating system for 
it. (It didn't do much, just displayed a banner and had a couple of 
very simple commands.) That's as far as it went at the time.

To go much further without driving myself crazy would have required an 
assembler to be written, probably on my BBC Micro in BASIC. The output 
from the assembler would be written to ROM, and after a fair amount of 
work there would be a BIOS available that will accept commands from a 
serial port and read and write disk sectors.

Then things step up a gear. Instead of programming a ROM, the stuff you 
write gets sent to the BIOS and written to a disk, so the first thing 
you then write is a file system, then a shell, then an editor and 
finally an assembler.

Now you can discard the other computer and use the simple operating 
system that you have to extend itself.

It is possible to do all that work by hand, but it ties your brain in 
knots, and it hasn't been done that way since the fifties.

Linus had it a bit easier, since he was working on a singe machine, he 
had the BIOS and the C compiler already, and the shell was available.  
But he had to implement a fair proportion of the POSIX system calls 
before they would run under his new OS.

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Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-29 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script
rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied.
Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas?

That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake 
switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev.  You are a 
bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list.  
Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta.  if yes, you 
might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe 
this was explained over there.

Greg,
I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a 
newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or 
not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download 
from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I 
have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker 
mailing list.

Regards,
Paul
Paul,
It is really not a good idea to try to mix packages from cooker with 
 packages from official - cooker packages are by their very nature 
'unstable' and, although they may be the 'latest' version they are 
not necessarily compatible with 10 official - as you have found :-(

I suggest you go into Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management 
- Media Manager and delete all your sources except the CDs, then go 
here:

http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi
Select 10 official in Section 1
Select all possible sources in Section 2, and mark the box at the 
bottom to use the compressed index

Open a root terminal and use copy/paste to transfer the easyurpmi 
output to the terminal, one medium at a time

You will then have the correct sources set up for your system, and 
you can then use either urpmi (from a terminal) or Mandrake Control 
Centre - Software Management - Updates section to get the right updates.

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Re: [newbie] Problem with MandrakeUpdate

2004-08-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 29 August 2004 08:45, John Wilson wrote:
 On August 28, 2004 12:43 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
  Dear All
 
  I removed all the media and, afterwards, I added all of them.
  Surprisingly, now, whenever I run MandrakeUpdate, all hdlists are
  updated at startup, which is not very convenient, specially if they are
  already updated. Any ideas to solve this?
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Paul

 MandrakeUpdate does this by default to make sure, I guess, it can pull down
 any needed dependancies too.  I'm not aware of any work around and it's
 never bothered me all that much. :)

 ttfn

 John

As I understand it recent versions of rpmdrake checks the checksum of the 
hdlist.cz files on the remote server  and only fetches them if they have 
changed. Presumably if there is a new update available you want to know about 
it.

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Re: [newbie] host name changes (sometimes...?)

2004-08-29 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 29 August 2004 09:23, Harald T ZIPKO wrote:
   I am still not happy with my mdk-boxes for they sometimes chnange their
   hostnames provided during install process to something like '172' or
   similar (=eg that's just the beginning of the internal LAN adresses
   when the nic gets network information via dhcp).
 
   No matter how I change /etc/hosts, the host names _do_ change due to
   whatever reason - I can't figure this out...
 
  Look in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0  (or whatever)
  remove the line
  NEEDHOSTNAME

 There's no entry like this :-(, strange...

  When you defined the interface there was a check box asking if you
  wanted to get the hostname from the DHCP server.

 I am using _static_ network settings - so the box should not get it's
 hostname from a dhcp server?
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/etc/hosts defines names by which computers in the network may be identified.
Putting an entry in /etc/hosts does not set the hostname.

What do you have in /etc/sysconfig/network ? That is where the hostname is 
defined.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:13, Poogle wrote:

snip
 Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive.  I got version
 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran
 as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to other things.
 You can d/l a trial version of Crossover Office and give it a go
/snip

Thanks Poogle.  I'll give it a try. Would indeed solve gazillions of 
problems. During the few days I was on line with her WindowsXP I 
really felt like an intruder and terrorist to the entire Internet. 
Even now, with her Windows box totally stand-alone, I feel 
uncomfortable having this virus-magnet/dispenser in our home.

Paranoid ? - Maybe.

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Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-29 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 29 August 2004 03:50, Paul Smith wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
 I have done some updates on my computer and now, at
  start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several
  tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during
  booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas?
 
  That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when
  Mandrake switched the default de vice manager from devfs to
  udev.  You are a bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to
  the newbie list.  Seriously though, are you running cooker
  or a 10.1 beta.  if yes, you might want to check the cooker
  mailing list archives because I believe this was explained
  over there.

 Greg,

 I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I
 am really a newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running
 a cooker version or not. I have indeed done some updates from
 cooker, likewise I download from there the latest version of
 the software I use. All updates that I have done were
 suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker
 mailing list.

 Regards,

 Paul
You  as a newbie don't know   what cooker is, it is the bleeding 
edge of Mandrake.  The cooker distribution is beyond testing it 
could be thought of as expermental, if you dont know linux well 
you shouldnt be there I cant help you any with cooker and 10.0 
doesnt work with cooker.  Reinstall 10.0 and stay away from 
cooker until you are able to use it on your own.
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[newbie] Easy to search archives?

2004-08-29 Thread linuxnbe
Hi all

Is there anywhere I can get an easy to search archive of this and the
expert mailing list - ie a single list of all newbie (or expert) emails. I'm
sure some of the questions I have have been asked before but to look through
he Mandrake list split into each month takes forever and also doesn't
include the first half of this year (I joined in August).

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] webmin upgrade resets https-access??

2004-08-29 Thread flesh.99
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:05:12 +0200, Harald T ZIPKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   After upgrading webmin to the actual version via webmin.com the hosts
   are not accessible via https anymore??
   Not very safe, I guess... ;-)
 
  Having lived in Webmin for the past four years, I have never seen that
  with the exception of compiling from source; have you restarted the
 
 I just used the built-in upgrade tool (downloading newest version from
 webmin.com...)
 
  webmin service? Have you rebooted?
 
 Of course I did a restart of the service. Fact is that sometimes after
 an upgrade webmin gives the following message:
 
 Webmin install complete. You can now login to https://localhost:1/
 as root with your root password. warning: /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem
 saved as /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem.rpmsave
 

This means simply that you kept your orginal file. You may want to try
$ mv miniserv.pem miniserv.pem.bak
$ mv miniserv.perm.rpmsave miniserv.pem
and then restart the service.

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No having used webmin in quite some time, the problem could be in the
SSL module inside of webmin, or the perl module providing SSL. Make
sure that SSL is enabled in your new version (I know you probablky
have done this), if it is disable it and re-enable it, paying close
attention to any error messages. If this does not work try upgrading
the perl module. If all else fails then compile from source. RPM is
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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 29 August 2004 06:30, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:13, Poogle wrote:

 snip

  Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive.  I got
  version 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how
  well it ran as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to
  other things. You can d/l a trial version of Crossover
  Office and give it a go

 /snip

 Thanks Poogle.  I'll give it a try. Would indeed solve
 gazillions of problems. During the few days I was on line with
 her WindowsXP I really felt like an intruder and terrorist to
 the entire Internet. Even now, with her Windows box totally
 stand-alone, I feel uncomfortable having this
 virus-magnet/dispenser in our home.

 Paranoid ? - Maybe.

 Kaj Haulrich.
Would you consider it paranoid to run if a 6'6 250lb person told 
you that he was going to knock you out of the park and he was 
holding a baseball bat?
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Re: [newbie] Easy to search archives?

2004-08-29 Thread Chris
On Sunday 29 August 2004 07:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 Is there anywhere I can get an easy to search archive of this and the
 expert mailing list - ie a single list of all newbie (or expert) emails.
 I'm sure some of the questions I have have been asked before but to look
 through he Mandrake list split into each month takes forever and also
 doesn't include the first half of this year (I joined in August).

 Thanks

 Robert

Robert here is the link that I use for the newbie list:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1b=200312w=2

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertr=1w=2

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[newbie] Reinstall problems

2004-08-29 Thread john
Thanks for the help on permissions earlier. There are a couple more 
issues. I have to start firefox and thunderbird from root on reinstall 
of md10. Previously I started from root and they were ok on the 2nd 
start, but not this time.  Also Thunderbird is not picking up on the 
settings in the home folder. Imported profiles on firefox and every 
thing was ok. Any help would be appreciated.
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[newbie] Reinstall problems

2004-08-29 Thread john
Thanks for the help on permissions earlier. There are a couple more
issues. I have to start firefox and thunderbird from root on reinstall
of md10. Previously I started from root and they were ok on the 2nd
start, but not this time.  Also Thunderbird is not picking up on the
settings in the home folder. Imported profiles on firefox and every
thing was ok. Any help would be appreciated.
john
It seems that there are more apps. that have to start from root. Is 
there a way to reset permissions as a group? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
John

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Re: [newbie] Easy to search archives?

2004-08-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 29 August 2004 14:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 Is there anywhere I can get an easy to search archive of this
 and the expert mailing list - ie a single list of all newbie (or
 expert) emails. I'm sure some of the questions I have have been
 asked before but to look through he Mandrake list split into each
 month takes forever and also doesn't include the first half of
 this year (I joined in August).

 Thanks

 Robert

This list archive (newbie) :
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie%40linux-mandrake.com/

and this archive (expert) :
http://www.mail-archive.com/expert%40linux-mandrake.com/

both have an excellent search option.

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Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 29 August 2004 05:28 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote:
I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going
for a while.
   
I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just
for the learning experience, and something has just
dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a
host system, how did the first linux system get built?
   
In other words, how can I create something that needs
itself to be created?
   
--
/g
  
   On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to
   dig for links to the history but for some reason that
   answer is stuck in my feable and fallible old brain.
  
   C.
 
   That's my recollection too Charlie.  IIRC, Linus as much
  as said so, and asked the minix author if it was Ok for him
  to modify and distribute as OSS.  Fortunately the answer was
  yes.

 Careful, that's SCO territory. There is no Minix code in Linux
 and never was, so Linux needed no such permission, any more
 than you needed Linus' permission to write your email.

Andy Tanenbaum, 20 May 2004
   [speaking of Ken Brown]

I told him that MINIX had clearly had a huge influence on 
Linux in many ways, from the layout of the file system to the 
names in the source tree, but I didn't think Linus had used any 
of my code. 

Linus also used MINIX as his development platform initially, 
but there was nothing wrong with that. He asked if I objected to 
that and I said no, I didn't, people were free to use it as they 
wished for noncommercial purposes.

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/

 Link is mainly about SCO and Ken Brown.  But you're right to 
admonish me Richard for my sloppy memory and wording ;)

   Use of MINIX (ie, 'influence', 'layout') as Linus' '[initial] 
development platform' doesn't equal my term of modify and 
distribute as OSS.   Mea culpa   
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Re: [newbie] Easy to search archives?

2004-08-29 Thread linuxnbe
Thanks Kaj and Chris those are both what I was looking for and are in fact
great resources outside these two mailing list.

Robert





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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Vincent Voois

John Richard Smith wrote:
Heck,
Things have sunk low. HP doesn't even give you their own backup disks as 
an emergency recovery any more.

I mean, not unnaturally the average user , ain't gonna think of creating 
their own image backups, the moment they first  plug the PC in and boot 
up. So these people are totally stuffed, and totally reliant upon HP's 
generaosityif they still have them.Plus the backup is 
presumeably to HD where it can also get infected/corrupted.

All I can say is that HP used to give you their own backup/recovery dics.
That means your daughter did you a serice is getting your computer 
virused up early on in the computers life , because you were then quick 
enough to ask for the missing discs before they don't have them any more.

I'm glad I don't buy there proprietary PC's any more.
John
The nice thing about such PC's is (and it doesn't matter which one) you can always download the propriety hardware drivers from 
the site.
And the nice thing about Microsoft Software is:There's always a good corporate edition floating around on the P2P networks.
You don't need recovery discs, just an ISO image of the corporate or professional edition (XP Home OEM is a mayor bummer)
Reinstall the os and virusscanner if possible, enable firewall, download patches and update virusscanner and ur done.



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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-29 Thread Vincent Voois

Hoyt Bailey wrote:

Would you consider it paranoid to run if a 6'6 250lb person told 
you that he was going to knock you out of the park and he was 
holding a baseball bat?
HEhehehehehehe.
U just pull his cap across his face, kick his nutts on the floor and break his baseballbat on his own knees.
I don't run, i swiftly act upon request. Because i know this person doesn't run very fast, doesn't swing very fast (though he 
has ultimo power, avoiding is easy)
Seek for the weak spots and figure a way around it, then deal with it.




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[newbie] dvd autoplay non totem

2004-08-29 Thread Todd Slater
Is there a way to have dvd's autoplay without using totem? I tried to
get mplayer to be the default by going to config  kde 
somethingorother  file associations, mp* and moved mplayer up above
totem. When I insert a dvd now it doesn't autoplay.

Yes, this is kde on mdk10.0, for a friend.

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-29 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:35:37 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

 Paul Smith wrote:
  Greg Meyer wrote:
  
  I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script
  rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied.
  Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas?
 
 
  That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake 
  switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev.  You are a 
  bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list.  
  Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta.  if yes, you 
  might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe 
  this was explained over there.
  
  
  Greg,
  
  I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a 
  newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or 
  not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download 
  from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I 
  have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker 
  mailing list.
  
  Regards,
  
  Paul
  
 
 Paul,
 
 It is really not a good idea to try to mix packages from cooker with 
   packages from official - cooker packages are by their very nature 
 'unstable' and, although they may be the 'latest' version they are 
 not necessarily compatible with 10 official - as you have found :-(
 
 I suggest you go into Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management 
 - Media Manager and delete all your sources except the CDs, then go 
 here:
 
 http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi
 
 Select 10 official in Section 1
 
 Select all possible sources in Section 2, and mark the box at the 
 bottom to use the compressed index
 
 Open a root terminal and use copy/paste to transfer the easyurpmi 
 output to the terminal, one medium at a time
 
 You will then have the correct sources set up for your system, and 
 you can then use either urpmi (from a terminal) or Mandrake Control 
 Centre - Software Management - Updates section to get the right updates.
 
 Margot
 **
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empathetic newbie on this list.

Yes, I am smitten. ;-)

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[newbie] FS Problem?

2004-08-29 Thread David Johnson








I had a power problem at the house the other day and now, at
boot up my ML10.0 machine comes up with tons of errors and every so often while
the machine is running I see messages such as MARK : [2004-08-29T10:54:12-0700]
msg=-- TIMESTAMP
--



I have a feeling this is an indication of a file system
problem, but Im not sure. Im
also not sure how to fix it if it is. Can
someone please advise?



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla misbehaving

2004-08-29 Thread Len Lawrence
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:53:03 -0500
Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 28 August 2004 09:37, Len Lawrence wrote:
  I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked
  my laptop at last (10 months since receipt).  The same version
  of mozilla (1.4) runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2
  and on the Sony VAIO laptop with Mandrake Download Edition
  9.2.  There is a problem with saving pages or images on the
  laptop from mozilla.  Right click and choose Save As and
  nothing happens, no popup and no download manager. Does
  anybody know if there is a way to enable saving in the
  browser? When I had this problem on the desktop I took it to
  the expert list but nobody there could explain it.  They said
  they had never seen or heard of such behaviour.  Using GNOME
  on both machines.
 
  Cheers
 One of the I dont know crowd I am running 1.6 and firefox 0.8 no 
 problem with saving anything.
Mine is mozilla 1.4 and it works most of the time on the desktop machine.  
In the past, whenever the corruption, or whatever it is, occurred, the only 
way to clear the fault was to uninstall and reinstall mozilla, which seemed 
a pretty brain dead solution but I could not find any other way to repair it.
No clues from /var/log/messages or .xsession-errors.

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[newbie] GPS and Linux

2004-08-29 Thread Aron Smith
I just bought a new toy  a Magellan  Sport Trak Gps unit has anyone used these 
with 'nix to DL the maps?


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[newbie] Configure Firewire External Enclosure with HD Maxtor 200 Go inside

2004-08-29 Thread centaure domain
Hi all,

Anyone knows where i can find an How-to or any tutorial explaining how to configure a 
Firewire  External Enclosure (with a Maxtor 200 Go HD inside) with my  
Mandrake 9.2 ?

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla misbehaving

2004-08-29 Thread Len Lawrence
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 05:09:33 +1000
Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 00:37, Len Lawrence wrote:
  I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked my laptop
  at last (10 months since receipt).  The same version of mozilla (1.4)
  runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2 and on the Sony VAIO
  laptop with Mandrake Download Edition 9.2.  There is a problem with
  saving pages or images on the laptop from mozilla.  Right click and
  choose Save As and nothing happens, no popup and no download manager.
  Does anybody know if there is a way to enable saving in the browser?
  When I had this problem on the desktop I took it to the expert list
  but nobody there could explain it.  They said they had never seen or
  heard of such behaviour.  Using GNOME on both machines.
  
  Cheers
 
 I'd advise to blow out the ~/.mozilla directory or rename it and try
 again; else, just upgrade to Firefox (faster, better, more features)

Right Stephen, tried blowing out .mozilla.  No dice.  I had to revert to
the tried and tested solution of reinstalling mozilla.  It is working for 
now.  Upgrades I shall leave until I progress to 10/10.1.  More features
probably not needed - all I do is browse, download and save, but if Firefox is 
guaranteed not to break down in this way it would be worth getting I guess.
Does it support the mailto protocol?  1.4 doesn't.

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Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition

2004-08-29 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:47, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All
 
 I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command 
 df -h produces the following:
 
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
4,5G  1,7G  2,6G  40% /
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
7,8G  5,9G  2,0G  76% /mnt/windows
 
 Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Paul

Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to
mention that mate...

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Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition

2004-08-29 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 29 August 2004 17:47, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the
 command df -h produces the following:

 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
4,5G  1,7G  2,6G  40% /
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
7,8G  5,9G  2,0G  76% /mnt/windows

 Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G?

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul
Windows is shown as 7.8 GB there is some overhead for the various 
files that keep track of the kernel  the stuff you put in it. 
It is not supprising that there is a difference I cannot tell if 
it is too much. But it does seem high.
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Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition

2004-08-29 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 29 August 2004 18:14, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:47, Paul Smith wrote:
  Dear All
 
  I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However,
  the command df -h produces the following:
 
  FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
 4,5G  1,7G  2,6G  40% /
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
 7,8G  5,9G  2,0G  76% /mnt/windows
 
  Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G?
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Paul

 Also, there may be a partition that isn't being
 mounted...forgot to mention that mate...

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 MOCK APPLE PIE (No Apples Needed) Pastry to two crust 9-inch
 pie 36 RITZ Crackers 2 cups water 2 cups sugar 2 teaspoons
 cream of tartar 2 tablespoons lemon juice Grated rind of one
 lemon Butter or margarine Cinnamon Roll out bottom crust of
 pastry and fit into 9-inch pie plate. Break RITZ Crackers
 coarsely into pastry-lined plate. Combine water, sugar and
 cream of tartar in saucepan, boil gently for 15 minutes. Add
 lemon juice and rind. Cool. Pour this syrup over Crackers, dot
 generously with butter or margarine and sprinkle with
 cinnamon. Cover with top crust. Trim and flute edges together.
 Cut slits in top crust to let steam escape. Bake in a hot oven
 (425 F) 30 to 35 minutes, until crust is crisp and golden.
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There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + 
swap.  How big is the drive?
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Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 30 August 2004 00:35, Richard Urwin wrote:
 Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al
 debacle fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase.

 (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has
 accused Linus of copying MINIX when creating Linux. That would be
 an unlicensed use of MINIX and if it were true would call into
 question the legality of Linux.)

Linus wrote wrote the first version of his code on Minix, yes. Does 
that mean, that if someone writes a love-letter using Microsoft 
Word that Bill and Steve have a date ?

Does Remington own James Joyce's Ulysses because it was typed on a 
Remington typewriter ?

Does Gutenberg own the Bible ?

Does the goose own the works of Shakespeare because it was written 
with a feather ?

And so on.

Professor Tanenbaum - who wrote Minix - explicitely declared, that 
there is NO Minix-code in Linux. Period.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] sylpheed-claws gtk2 cvs

2004-08-29 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:13:12 -0500
John Drouhard wrote:

 The *only* thing wrong with it at this point is that it doesn't
 compile with pgpmime or gnupg correctly.


You need to use libgpgme03_6-devel


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Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
Stephen Kühn wrote:
I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command 
df -h produces the following:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
  4,5G  1,7G  2,6G  40% /
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
  7,8G  5,9G  2,0G  76% /mnt/windows
Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G?
Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to
mention that mate...
Good guess, Stephen.
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Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
Hoyt Bailey wrote:
I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However,
the command df -h produces the following:
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
  4,5G  1,7G  2,6G  40% /
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
  7,8G  5,9G  2,0G  76% /mnt/windows
Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G?
Also, there may be a partition that isn't being
mounted...forgot to mention that mate...
There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + 
swap.  How big is the drive?
Hoyt,
As Stephen correctly guessed, what was missing was not mounted.
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[newbie] Multiple ML-10 woes!

2004-08-29 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hi all.

Today I installed the download version of MDK-10  I had been running 9.2
with no problems but thought I'd try the upgrade to get later versions
of everything. Boy was that a mistake!! 

Everything is dramatically slower from boot up to surfing the web. 

KMail crashes every time I click on reply to or try to open a new
message window.

Mozilla which had been working fine now has no spell checker so I can't
use it for email either. The Mozilla site says if using Mandrake to just
run urpmi mozilla-spellchecker when I do I get the following.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]# urpmi mozilla-spellchecker
unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5) into account as no
list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5)] exists
unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6) into account as no
list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6)] exists
unable to take medium Contrib CD (cdrom7) into account as no list file
[/var/lib/urpmi/list.Contrib CD (cdrom7)] exists
unable to take medium Installation CD1 (cdrom1) into account as no
list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD1 (cdrom1)] exists
unable to take medium Installation CD2 (cdrom2) into account as no
list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD2 (cdrom2)] exists
unable to take medium International CD (cdrom3) into account as no
list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom3)] exists
unable to take medium International CD (cdrom4) into account as no
list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom4)] exists
unable to take medium main into account as no list file
[/var/lib/urpmi/list.main] exists
unable to take medium Sources CD1 (cdrom8) into account as no list
file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Sources CD1 (cdrom8)] exists
no package named mozilla-spellchecker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]#

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Oh yes because I'm on a
dial up connection I couldn't possibly do the download so I bought the
CDs on line from a place called Budget Linux and did the install from
those. 

TIA

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[newbie] Star Wars Battlefront port possibility? Hmm...!

2004-08-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Star Wars: Battlefront Port? - posted by Crusader - Sunday Aug 29 08:03:42 
2004
linuX-gamers.net pointed out this interview that StarWars-BATTLEFRONT.de 
conducted with Pandemic Studios concerning their upcoming 
multiplayer-oriented multi-platform shooter Star Wars: Battlefront. The 
question of Linux support came up, and surprisingly (as LucasArts has never 
shown any inclination towards wanting to support Linux clients for their 
products, despite ILM using it as a workstation platform) Pandemic responded 
with this:

Will you be able to play SWBF on 'exotic' platforms like the Linux-kernel 
or Mac OS? Will you release a dedicated-server-software?

We have been delving into the realm of exotic platforms, actually. Right 
now, we are definitely supporting all major and current releases of MS 
Windows (i.e. '98, Me, 2000, and XP). We have also spent some time tinkering 
with Linux support, as well. We definitely do not want to do anything 
half-hearted, though, so if we run out of time, we will look into patches, 
but I can guarantee that if we do ship with it, it will run equally well on 
any OS we support. Battlefront will actually have a good amount of server 
options for everybody to use. Specifically for the PC, every retail version 
will have the ability to handle Hosting and Dedicated Hosting. For the 
Dedicated Server crowd, you may want to know that we are planning to have 
multiple server per CPU support, as well. That means that, depending on your 
system's power, you may be able to run two or three separate servers without 
any of them taking major performance hits. Also, for those who like to 
support their console-playing brethren, we are planning to release a 
standalone Dedicated Server for PS2 games only that will be a free download.

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[newbie] Re: mp3

2004-08-29 Thread András Keszei
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 05:37, David Wallis wrote:
 Morning Andras
 Many thanks your reply.
 I am in the same boat
 Win to run a couple of bits of hardware
 BTW is there a pocket sized mp3 player that *is* Linux computable
 Cheers
 David
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Hi David,
I'm replying in the list as you sent the reply only to me, probably by
mistke. 
I've been checking out other mp3 players for some time now (and scanners
and tweaks on wine) to reduce my reasons for having win on my box.  Any
thumbdrive style mp3 player that works as a USB mass storage device
should be OK with linux. Muzio, iops, iriver, are just a few I found
that will work AND have ogg support. This is a must feature for an OSS
geek :-)  I think iriver have the friendliest attitude towards linux,
but their prices have made me wait with getting one.
Next time make sure your posts remain in the list, who knows, someone
might actually be interested ;-)
cheers
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Re: [newbie] Multiple ML-10 woes!

2004-08-29 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 12:41, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Today I installed the download version of MDK-10  I had been running 9.2
 with no problems but thought I'd try the upgrade to get later versions
 of everything. Boy was that a mistake!! 
 
 Everything is dramatically slower from boot up to surfing the web. 
 
 KMail crashes every time I click on reply to or try to open a new
 message window.
 
 Mozilla which had been working fine now has no spell checker so I can't
 use it for email either. The Mozilla site says if using Mandrake to just
 run urpmi mozilla-spellchecker when I do I get the following.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]# urpmi mozilla-spellchecker
 unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5) into account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5)] exists
 unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6) into account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6)] exists
 unable to take medium Contrib CD (cdrom7) into account as no list file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Contrib CD (cdrom7)] exists
 unable to take medium Installation CD1 (cdrom1) into account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD1 (cdrom1)] exists
 unable to take medium Installation CD2 (cdrom2) into account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD2 (cdrom2)] exists
 unable to take medium International CD (cdrom3) into account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom3)] exists
 unable to take medium International CD (cdrom4) into account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom4)] exists
 unable to take medium main into account as no list file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/list.main] exists
 unable to take medium Sources CD1 (cdrom8) into account as no list
 file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Sources CD1 (cdrom8)] exists
 no package named mozilla-spellchecker
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]#
 
 Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Oh yes because I'm on a
 dial up connection I couldn't possibly do the download so I bought the
 CDs on line from a place called Budget Linux and did the install from
 those. 
 
 TIA

As Tina and I have found out, going the upgrade path doesn't quite cut
the mustard. We did an upgrade on her machine, and a fresh installation
on my machine; big difference.

She now has no sound, frequent lockups and crashes, mcc doesn't work
properly, urpmi doesn't work properly; but hey, it was just for a test
and she's going to do a fresh installation after she backs up her junk.

My machine, however, is running fine and dandy. Performance was tweaked
a bit from the beginning, so I have all the right drivers, all the
right, well, whatever, and very few issues. (Although, MailScanner and
SpamAssassin kill my performance sometimes, but hey, this is a server
AND a workstation, ya?)

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[newbie] test

2004-08-29 Thread mike
test


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Re: [newbie] i2c pooblems w/lm_sensors.

2004-08-29 Thread mike


Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 On Friday 27 August 2004 08:58, Thereidos wrote:
 
W licie z pi, 27-08-2004, godz. 14:44, Hoyt Bailey pisze:

On Friday 27 August 2004 00:27, Rob Blomquist wrote:
snip

BTW, I believe that the path  /mkdev/mkdev.sh is meant to be
within the source code folder, so that a program that usually
runs during make or make-install is run.

I finally found /mkdev.sh burried in lm_sensors-2.8.5
directory. /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh
 Running the mkdev.sh allows sensors-detect to run but in the end I
could not get the temp's, fans into gkrellm. The following seems to
be the problem:
1. For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and done
'modprobe i2c_sensor'!
2. For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'!
Line 1 seems important but I dont know what it means.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ locate sysfs
/home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/doc/developers/sysfs-interface
There are a lot of sysfs entries but apparantly there is one
missing.

This is what I've got about mounting sysfs :

Add as root this line to /etc/fstab

sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
 
 done
 
than just write

mount /sys
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# mount /sys
 mount: sysfs already mounted or /sys busy
 mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys
 No sys in /etc/fstab except the line above?
 
If it complains that directory does not exists just create it
(mkdir /sys)
and repeat :)

Let me know if it helped...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# cat /etc/fstab
 /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
 /dev/hda12 /backup ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
 none /mnt/floppy supermount 
 dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 
 0 0
 /dev/hda10 /music ext3 defaults 1 2
 none /proc proc defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda8 /tmp ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/hda9 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/hda11 /var ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
 umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# cat /etc/mtab
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 / ext3 rw 0 0
 none /proc proc rw 0 0
 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
 none /dev devfs rw 0 0
 none /sys sysfs rw 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 /backup ext3 rw 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 /home ext3 rw 0 0
 none /mnt/floppy supermount 
 rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 
 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 /music ext3 rw 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 /tmp ext3 rw 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 /usr ext3 rw 0 0
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 /var ext3 rw 0 0
 automount(pid4018) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=4018,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 
 0
 automount(pid4016) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=4016,minproto=2,maxproto=4 
 0 0
 Well thats what happened?
 
 
This is a guess but, maybe try, as root ldconfig

Also you mentioned you got sensors-detect to run but, nothing on
gkrellem. Do you get an output from the sensors command?

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[newbie] USB cardreader problems

2004-08-29 Thread John Rye

This message is crossposted.

Opsys: Mandrake 10.0 Official

Here's the situation: We have a Kodak DC3200 digital camera which ises a
conventional compactflash module for storage. Because we cannot connect
the camera directly to computer, there seems to be now way of reading from
the camera.

Solution was to obtain a 6-in-1 USB cardreader. (DSE XH6747)

This is where to problem occurs. The USB 'hotpluging' does work as shown
by the contents of /etc/fstab below (watch for wrapping), however we
cannot see the contents of the 32mb flash module (which we know to be good
and to contain a bunch of pictures) when selecting the icon on the desktop
as user nor as root.

Of course the usual big but is inserted here - It works ok in WinXP :-(

My computer  shows the device as 4 separate drives I, J, K and L and
the data on the card can be read and copied from drive I(eye) in the
/dcim directory.

I seem to recall there was discussion on this issue some time ago but
haven't been able to locate any references.


===
 /etc/fstab before reader insertion

/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/hdc
/mnt/cdrom2 auto
umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/fd0
/mnt/floppy auto
iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,sync,user,unhide,n
odev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0

==
 /etc/fstab after insertion

/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/hdc
/mnt/cdrom2 auto
umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/fd0
/mnt/floppy auto
iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,sync,user,unhide,n
odev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
none /mnt/removable supermount
dev=/dev/scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocha
rset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850 0 0

==

John (nz)



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