Re: [newbie] External Drive
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:17:01 -0500 Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried to use a USB external drive in ML 10.0 My hopes were that ML would detect it and add a icon to my desktop like my card reader did. I was wrong, it was not that simple. Anyone have any ideas about how to get a External HDD workinh in ML 10.0? TIA Marc -- ** Have you tried fdisk -l . will show all found drives. mine loop like this.. fdisk -l snip. Disk /dev/sda: 10.2 GB, 10242892800 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19846 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 500 251968+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 * 501 19846 9750384 83 Linux If so just create mount points in /mnt and enter in fstab. -- Johan Sch Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] permission changes
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:49:17 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:32, john wrote: Hello After reinstalling md10, several folders now show locked. Security settings are standard and I 'm not sure what happened to change these folders. Any advice on how to change them to normal settings would be appreciated. Thanks John When you add users to your system each user is allocated a User ID starting from 501 upwards. (and a Group ID number the 'GID') It is the UID number in the header of each file which determines the 'owner' If you have added your users in a different order to your last install, and did not reformat the /home partition, then the preexisting files will have the old UID/GID numbers. When reinstalling it is important to enter your users in the same sequence to ensure they have the same UID/GID numbers as the previous install. To resolve it, as root change the owner of the /home folders. It is easy enough in KDE hit Alt+F2 then type 'kdesu konqueror' in the box to get a root copy of konqueror, then right click on the home folders and select properties to change the ownerships. derek * Another quick one . in console as su in the user directory for example. chown -R username:username * All files and dirs will be changed in a flash. -- Johan Sch Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 06:08, David Wallis wrote: Hi Is it possible with Mandrake 10 and KDE to run a Creative Model PA-20 digital MP3Player Cheers David Hi David, Have one of them things and you won't be able to breathe life into it under linux. It has a proprietary file system, and won't even work in windows without its own software. Sometimes not even with that... Actually it shares with my scanner and the program BioEdit in being the reason I still have MSW on my machine. I've even tried using it with an mmc card that I wrote the music onto from linux, but the player won't accept any filesystem other than its own. Sorry to be the one to break this to you, although if you do find a solution, let us know. cheers Andras -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official OpenOffice.org 1.1 AMD 1.3GHz Duron, 512MB RAM, Asus K7T, Abit Siluro 64MB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with MandrakeUpdate
On August 28, 2004 12:43 pm, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I removed all the media and, afterwards, I added all of them. Surprisingly, now, whenever I run MandrakeUpdate, all hdlists are updated at startup, which is not very convenient, specially if they are already updated. Any ideas to solve this? Thanks in advance, Paul MandrakeUpdate does this by default to make sure, I guess, it can pull down any needed dependancies too. I'm not aware of any work around and it's never bothered me all that much. :) ttfn John -- *** Composed on a 100% Microsoft Free Computer Guaranteed Virus Free Mandrake Linux 10.0 OE Registered Linux User 362316 *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] webmin upgrade resets https-access??
After upgrading webmin to the actual version via webmin.com the hosts are not accessible via https anymore?? Not very safe, I guess... ;-) Having lived in Webmin for the past four years, I have never seen that with the exception of compiling from source; have you restarted the I just used the built-in upgrade tool (downloading newest version from webmin.com...) webmin service? Have you rebooted? Of course I did a restart of the service. Fact is that sometimes after an upgrade webmin gives the following message: Webmin install complete. You can now login to https://localhost:1/ as root with your root password. warning: /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem saved as /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem.rpmsave -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO V_/_ please no html - mails -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] host name changes (sometimes...?)
I am still not happy with my mdk-boxes for they sometimes chnange their hostnames provided during install process to something like '172' or similar (=eg that's just the beginning of the internal LAN adresses when the nic gets network information via dhcp). No matter how I change /etc/hosts, the host names _do_ change due to whatever reason - I can't figure this out... Look in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or whatever) remove the line NEEDHOSTNAME There's no entry like this :-(, strange... When you defined the interface there was a check box asking if you wanted to get the hostname from the DHCP server. I am using _static_ network settings - so the box should not get it's hostname from a dhcp server? -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO V_/_ please no html - mails -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty
Greg Meyer wrote: I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev. You are a bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list. Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta. if yes, you might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe this was explained over there. Greg, I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker mailing list. Regards, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Enlarging Mandrake's partition
Stephen Kühn wrote: Look, you say your rarely use it; what DO you use it for? Best bet would be to defrag it, then use either diskdrake or Partition Magic to resize it; else you could whack another drive in there and balance out your stuff... Unfortunately, I have to use MS Windows for establishing a VPN connection from home to my work, where the servers are all Microsoft. I have not manage yet to use Linux for VPN connections, although I have tried hard. VMWare? I have heard that VMWare is expensive and does not operate well on slow machines; mine is a 4 years old computer with 256MB of ram and a Pentium III 600MHz. Ah...hmm...and you've researched ALL the vpn clients for GNU/linux and found none that work? I do not know if I have researched all the VPN clients, but I have researched the following: freswan and pptp (pptp client). Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 13:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:50, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip That is one good reason there are others. Have you considered Win4linux or Crossover Office? /snip Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. Never mind Hoyt, Lyvim, John and all you nice people. My daughters Windows box stays off the net, she uses Linux for networking, there's peace in my home, in my mind and - hopefully on this fine list too. Have a good week-end, all. Kaj Haulrich. Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive. I got version 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to other things. You can d/l a trial version of Crossover Office and give it a go -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP
W licie z sob, 28-08-2004, godz. 20:17, Steve pisze: snip Thanks, Steve Please read etiquette and don't post in HTML. -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] rekall
It seems the libxbsql is not present. Do you know the RPM for this file? The specific missing depend, devel(libxbsql), is provided by libxbsql0-devel-0.11-3mdk.i586.rpm. You will also need libxbsql0-0.11-3mdk.i586.rpm. Since you were using urpmi both should have been pulled-in if you have Contrib mirror set-up as 1 of your source locations for urpmi. Thanks Charles, problem solved. You have a very useful site. Saludos, jose. -- Jose Usoz / Cromosfera http://www.cromosfera.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how did the first linux system get built? In other words, how can I create something that needs itself to be created? -- /g On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to dig for links to the history but for some reason that answer is stuck in my feable and fallible old brain. C. That's my recollection too Charlie. IIRC, Linus as much as said so, and asked the minix author if it was Ok for him to modify and distribute as OSS. Fortunately the answer was yes. Careful, that's SCO territory. There is no Minix code in Linux and never was, so Linux needed no such permission, any more than you needed Linus' permission to write your email. It was, however, done that way. Read Just For Fun by Torvalds and Diamond for more information. Some time ago I did the first step of this process. I built a 32000 computer from scratch and hand assembled a simple operating system for it. (It didn't do much, just displayed a banner and had a couple of very simple commands.) That's as far as it went at the time. To go much further without driving myself crazy would have required an assembler to be written, probably on my BBC Micro in BASIC. The output from the assembler would be written to ROM, and after a fair amount of work there would be a BIOS available that will accept commands from a serial port and read and write disk sectors. Then things step up a gear. Instead of programming a ROM, the stuff you write gets sent to the BIOS and written to a disk, so the first thing you then write is a file system, then a shell, then an editor and finally an assembler. Now you can discard the other computer and use the simple operating system that you have to extend itself. It is possible to do all that work by hand, but it ties your brain in knots, and it hasn't been done that way since the fifties. Linus had it a bit easier, since he was working on a singe machine, he had the BIOS and the C compiler already, and the shell was available. But he had to implement a fair proportion of the POSIX system calls before they would run under his new OS. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty
Paul Smith wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev. You are a bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list. Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta. if yes, you might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe this was explained over there. Greg, I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker mailing list. Regards, Paul Paul, It is really not a good idea to try to mix packages from cooker with packages from official - cooker packages are by their very nature 'unstable' and, although they may be the 'latest' version they are not necessarily compatible with 10 official - as you have found :-( I suggest you go into Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management - Media Manager and delete all your sources except the CDs, then go here: http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi Select 10 official in Section 1 Select all possible sources in Section 2, and mark the box at the bottom to use the compressed index Open a root terminal and use copy/paste to transfer the easyurpmi output to the terminal, one medium at a time You will then have the correct sources set up for your system, and you can then use either urpmi (from a terminal) or Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management - Updates section to get the right updates. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with MandrakeUpdate
On Sunday 29 August 2004 08:45, John Wilson wrote: On August 28, 2004 12:43 pm, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I removed all the media and, afterwards, I added all of them. Surprisingly, now, whenever I run MandrakeUpdate, all hdlists are updated at startup, which is not very convenient, specially if they are already updated. Any ideas to solve this? Thanks in advance, Paul MandrakeUpdate does this by default to make sure, I guess, it can pull down any needed dependancies too. I'm not aware of any work around and it's never bothered me all that much. :) ttfn John As I understand it recent versions of rpmdrake checks the checksum of the hdlist.cz files on the remote server and only fetches them if they have changed. Presumably if there is a new update available you want to know about it. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] host name changes (sometimes...?)
On Sunday 29 August 2004 09:23, Harald T ZIPKO wrote: I am still not happy with my mdk-boxes for they sometimes chnange their hostnames provided during install process to something like '172' or similar (=eg that's just the beginning of the internal LAN adresses when the nic gets network information via dhcp). No matter how I change /etc/hosts, the host names _do_ change due to whatever reason - I can't figure this out... Look in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or whatever) remove the line NEEDHOSTNAME There's no entry like this :-(, strange... When you defined the interface there was a check box asking if you wanted to get the hostname from the DHCP server. I am using _static_ network settings - so the box should not get it's hostname from a dhcp server? -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO /etc/hosts defines names by which computers in the network may be identified. Putting an entry in /etc/hosts does not set the hostname. What do you have in /etc/sysconfig/network ? That is where the hostname is defined. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:13, Poogle wrote: snip Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive. I got version 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to other things. You can d/l a trial version of Crossover Office and give it a go /snip Thanks Poogle. I'll give it a try. Would indeed solve gazillions of problems. During the few days I was on line with her WindowsXP I really felt like an intruder and terrorist to the entire Internet. Even now, with her Windows box totally stand-alone, I feel uncomfortable having this virus-magnet/dispenser in our home. Paranoid ? - Maybe. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.0) - kernel 2.6.7* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty
On Sunday 29 August 2004 03:50, Paul Smith wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev. You are a bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list. Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta. if yes, you might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe this was explained over there. Greg, I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker mailing list. Regards, Paul You as a newbie don't know what cooker is, it is the bleeding edge of Mandrake. The cooker distribution is beyond testing it could be thought of as expermental, if you dont know linux well you shouldnt be there I cant help you any with cooker and 10.0 doesnt work with cooker. Reinstall 10.0 and stay away from cooker until you are able to use it on your own. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Easy to search archives?
Hi all Is there anywhere I can get an easy to search archive of this and the expert mailing list - ie a single list of all newbie (or expert) emails. I'm sure some of the questions I have have been asked before but to look through he Mandrake list split into each month takes forever and also doesn't include the first half of this year (I joined in August). Thanks Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] webmin upgrade resets https-access??
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:05:12 +0200, Harald T ZIPKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading webmin to the actual version via webmin.com the hosts are not accessible via https anymore?? Not very safe, I guess... ;-) Having lived in Webmin for the past four years, I have never seen that with the exception of compiling from source; have you restarted the I just used the built-in upgrade tool (downloading newest version from webmin.com...) webmin service? Have you rebooted? Of course I did a restart of the service. Fact is that sometimes after an upgrade webmin gives the following message: Webmin install complete. You can now login to https://localhost:1/ as root with your root password. warning: /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem saved as /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem.rpmsave This means simply that you kept your orginal file. You may want to try $ mv miniserv.pem miniserv.pem.bak $ mv miniserv.perm.rpmsave miniserv.pem and then restart the service. -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO V_/_ please no html - mails -- No having used webmin in quite some time, the problem could be in the SSL module inside of webmin, or the perl module providing SSL. Make sure that SSL is enabled in your new version (I know you probablky have done this), if it is disable it and re-enable it, paying close attention to any error messages. If this does not work try upgrading the perl module. If all else fails then compile from source. RPM is just simply not the best way to install some things. -- This is me with the words on the tip of my tongue and my eye through the scope down the barrel of a gun, remind me not to ever act this way again - Taking Back Sunday -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBqeVfHXjcMfoResRAkEAAKCJYsCJa72nJMEk8tS5IC75SOyIbgCfaH5N gXAle9QDujbcMcHVOEiS6UY= =oaCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Sunday 29 August 2004 06:30, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:13, Poogle wrote: snip Out of curiosity some time ago I looked at Derive. I got version 5 running using Crossover Office. I don't recall how well it ran as having got it to run my curiosity moved on to other things. You can d/l a trial version of Crossover Office and give it a go /snip Thanks Poogle. I'll give it a try. Would indeed solve gazillions of problems. During the few days I was on line with her WindowsXP I really felt like an intruder and terrorist to the entire Internet. Even now, with her Windows box totally stand-alone, I feel uncomfortable having this virus-magnet/dispenser in our home. Paranoid ? - Maybe. Kaj Haulrich. Would you consider it paranoid to run if a 6'6 250lb person told you that he was going to knock you out of the park and he was holding a baseball bat? -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Easy to search archives?
On Sunday 29 August 2004 07:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Is there anywhere I can get an easy to search archive of this and the expert mailing list - ie a single list of all newbie (or expert) emails. I'm sure some of the questions I have have been asked before but to look through he Mandrake list split into each month takes forever and also doesn't include the first half of this year (I joined in August). Thanks Robert Robert here is the link that I use for the newbie list: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1b=200312w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertr=1w=2 -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 9:18am up 8 days, 10:53, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.33, 0.25 The eleventh commandment was `Thou Shalt Compute' or `Thou Shalt Not Compute' -- I forget which. -- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Reinstall problems
Thanks for the help on permissions earlier. There are a couple more issues. I have to start firefox and thunderbird from root on reinstall of md10. Previously I started from root and they were ok on the 2nd start, but not this time. Also Thunderbird is not picking up on the settings in the home folder. Imported profiles on firefox and every thing was ok. Any help would be appreciated. john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Reinstall problems
Thanks for the help on permissions earlier. There are a couple more issues. I have to start firefox and thunderbird from root on reinstall of md10. Previously I started from root and they were ok on the 2nd start, but not this time. Also Thunderbird is not picking up on the settings in the home folder. Imported profiles on firefox and every thing was ok. Any help would be appreciated. john It seems that there are more apps. that have to start from root. Is there a way to reset permissions as a group? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Easy to search archives?
On Sunday 29 August 2004 14:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Is there anywhere I can get an easy to search archive of this and the expert mailing list - ie a single list of all newbie (or expert) emails. I'm sure some of the questions I have have been asked before but to look through he Mandrake list split into each month takes forever and also doesn't include the first half of this year (I joined in August). Thanks Robert This list archive (newbie) : http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie%40linux-mandrake.com/ and this archive (expert) : http://www.mail-archive.com/expert%40linux-mandrake.com/ both have an excellent search option. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.0) - kernel 2.6.7* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Sunday 29 August 2004 05:28 am, Richard Urwin wrote: On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how did the first linux system get built? In other words, how can I create something that needs itself to be created? -- /g On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to dig for links to the history but for some reason that answer is stuck in my feable and fallible old brain. C. That's my recollection too Charlie. IIRC, Linus as much as said so, and asked the minix author if it was Ok for him to modify and distribute as OSS. Fortunately the answer was yes. Careful, that's SCO territory. There is no Minix code in Linux and never was, so Linux needed no such permission, any more than you needed Linus' permission to write your email. Andy Tanenbaum, 20 May 2004 [speaking of Ken Brown] I told him that MINIX had clearly had a huge influence on Linux in many ways, from the layout of the file system to the names in the source tree, but I didn't think Linus had used any of my code. Linus also used MINIX as his development platform initially, but there was nothing wrong with that. He asked if I objected to that and I said no, I didn't, people were free to use it as they wished for noncommercial purposes. http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/ Link is mainly about SCO and Ken Brown. But you're right to admonish me Richard for my sloppy memory and wording ;) Use of MINIX (ie, 'influence', 'layout') as Linus' '[initial] development platform' doesn't equal my term of modify and distribute as OSS. Mea culpa -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Easy to search archives?
Thanks Kaj and Chris those are both what I was looking for and are in fact great resources outside these two mailing list. Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
John Richard Smith wrote: Heck, Things have sunk low. HP doesn't even give you their own backup disks as an emergency recovery any more. I mean, not unnaturally the average user , ain't gonna think of creating their own image backups, the moment they first plug the PC in and boot up. So these people are totally stuffed, and totally reliant upon HP's generaosityif they still have them.Plus the backup is presumeably to HD where it can also get infected/corrupted. All I can say is that HP used to give you their own backup/recovery dics. That means your daughter did you a serice is getting your computer virused up early on in the computers life , because you were then quick enough to ask for the missing discs before they don't have them any more. I'm glad I don't buy there proprietary PC's any more. John The nice thing about such PC's is (and it doesn't matter which one) you can always download the propriety hardware drivers from the site. And the nice thing about Microsoft Software is:There's always a good corporate edition floating around on the P2P networks. You don't need recovery discs, just an ISO image of the corporate or professional edition (XP Home OEM is a mayor bummer) Reinstall the os and virusscanner if possible, enable firewall, download patches and update virusscanner and ur done. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
Hoyt Bailey wrote: Would you consider it paranoid to run if a 6'6 250lb person told you that he was going to knock you out of the park and he was holding a baseball bat? HEhehehehehehe. U just pull his cap across his face, kick his nutts on the floor and break his baseballbat on his own knees. I don't run, i swiftly act upon request. Because i know this person doesn't run very fast, doesn't swing very fast (though he has ultimo power, avoiding is easy) Seek for the weak spots and figure a way around it, then deal with it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] dvd autoplay non totem
Is there a way to have dvd's autoplay without using totem? I tried to get mplayer to be the default by going to config kde somethingorother file associations, mp* and moved mplayer up above totem. When I insert a dvd now it doesn't autoplay. Yes, this is kde on mdk10.0, for a friend. Thanks, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty
- Original Message - From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:35:37 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty Paul Smith wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev. You are a bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list. Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta. if yes, you might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe this was explained over there. Greg, I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker mailing list. Regards, Paul Paul, It is really not a good idea to try to mix packages from cooker with packages from official - cooker packages are by their very nature 'unstable' and, although they may be the 'latest' version they are not necessarily compatible with 10 official - as you have found :-( I suggest you go into Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management - Media Manager and delete all your sources except the CDs, then go here: http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi Select 10 official in Section 1 Select all possible sources in Section 2, and mark the box at the bottom to use the compressed index Open a root terminal and use copy/paste to transfer the easyurpmi output to the terminal, one medium at a time You will then have the correct sources set up for your system, and you can then use either urpmi (from a terminal) or Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management - Updates section to get the right updates. Margot ** I hereby appoint Margot as the most charming and empathetic newbie on this list. Yes, I am smitten. ;-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 10.0~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] FS Problem?
I had a power problem at the house the other day and now, at boot up my ML10.0 machine comes up with tons of errors and every so often while the machine is running I see messages such as MARK : [2004-08-29T10:54:12-0700] msg=-- TIMESTAMP -- I have a feeling this is an indication of a file system problem, but Im not sure. Im also not sure how to fix it if it is. Can someone please advise? Thanks --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004
Re: [newbie] Mozilla misbehaving
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:53:03 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 09:37, Len Lawrence wrote: I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked my laptop at last (10 months since receipt). The same version of mozilla (1.4) runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2 and on the Sony VAIO laptop with Mandrake Download Edition 9.2. There is a problem with saving pages or images on the laptop from mozilla. Right click and choose Save As and nothing happens, no popup and no download manager. Does anybody know if there is a way to enable saving in the browser? When I had this problem on the desktop I took it to the expert list but nobody there could explain it. They said they had never seen or heard of such behaviour. Using GNOME on both machines. Cheers One of the I dont know crowd I am running 1.6 and firefox 0.8 no problem with saving anything. Mine is mozilla 1.4 and it works most of the time on the desktop machine. In the past, whenever the corruption, or whatever it is, occurred, the only way to clear the fault was to uninstall and reinstall mozilla, which seemed a pretty brain dead solution but I could not find any other way to repair it. No clues from /var/log/messages or .xsession-errors. -- Len Lawrence -- Xerox never comes up with anything original. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] GPS and Linux
I just bought a new toy a Magellan Sport Trak Gps unit has anyone used these with 'nix to DL the maps? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Configure Firewire External Enclosure with HD Maxtor 200 Go inside
Hi all, Anyone knows where i can find an How-to or any tutorial explaining how to configure a Firewire External Enclosure (with a Maxtor 200 Go HD inside) with my Mandrake 9.2 ? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla misbehaving
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 05:09:33 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 00:37, Len Lawrence wrote: I have just hit an old problem with mozilla, having networked my laptop at last (10 months since receipt). The same version of mozilla (1.4) runs on my desktop with Mandrake Prosuite 9.2 and on the Sony VAIO laptop with Mandrake Download Edition 9.2. There is a problem with saving pages or images on the laptop from mozilla. Right click and choose Save As and nothing happens, no popup and no download manager. Does anybody know if there is a way to enable saving in the browser? When I had this problem on the desktop I took it to the expert list but nobody there could explain it. They said they had never seen or heard of such behaviour. Using GNOME on both machines. Cheers I'd advise to blow out the ~/.mozilla directory or rename it and try again; else, just upgrade to Firefox (faster, better, more features) Right Stephen, tried blowing out .mozilla. No dice. I had to revert to the tried and tested solution of reinstalling mozilla. It is working for now. Upgrades I shall leave until I progress to 10/10.1. More features probably not needed - all I do is browse, download and save, but if Firefox is guaranteed not to break down in this way it would be worth getting I guess. Does it support the mailto protocol? 1.4 doesn't. -- Len Lawrence -- Xerox never comes up with anything original. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:47, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Thanks in advance, Paul Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. MOCK APPLE PIE (No Apples Needed) Pastry to two crust 9-inch pie 36 RITZ Crackers 2 cups water 2 cups sugar 2 teaspoons cream of tartar 2 tablespoons lemon juice Grated rind of one lemon Butter or margarine Cinnamon Roll out bottom crust of pastry and fit into 9-inch pie plate. Break RITZ Crackers coarsely into pastry-lined plate. Combine water, sugar and cream of tartar in saucepan, boil gently for 15 minutes. Add lemon juice and rind. Cool. Pour this syrup over Crackers, dot generously with butter or margarine and sprinkle with cinnamon. Cover with top crust. Trim and flute edges together. Cut slits in top crust to let steam escape. Bake in a hot oven (425 F) 30 to 35 minutes, until crust is crisp and golden. Serve warm. Cut into 6 to 8 slices. -- Found lurking on a Ritz Crackers box Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Sunday 29 August 2004 17:47, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Thanks in advance, Paul Windows is shown as 7.8 GB there is some overhead for the various files that keep track of the kernel the stuff you put in it. It is not supprising that there is a difference I cannot tell if it is too much. But it does seem high. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
On Sunday 29 August 2004 18:14, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:47, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Thanks in advance, Paul Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. MOCK APPLE PIE (No Apples Needed) Pastry to two crust 9-inch pie 36 RITZ Crackers 2 cups water 2 cups sugar 2 teaspoons cream of tartar 2 tablespoons lemon juice Grated rind of one lemon Butter or margarine Cinnamon Roll out bottom crust of pastry and fit into 9-inch pie plate. Break RITZ Crackers coarsely into pastry-lined plate. Combine water, sugar and cream of tartar in saucepan, boil gently for 15 minutes. Add lemon juice and rind. Cool. Pour this syrup over Crackers, dot generously with butter or margarine and sprinkle with cinnamon. Cover with top crust. Trim and flute edges together. Cut slits in top crust to let steam escape. Bake in a hot oven (425 F) 30 to 35 minutes, until crust is crisp and golden. Serve warm. Cut into 6 to 8 slices. -- Found lurking on a Ritz Crackers box There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + swap. How big is the drive? -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Monday 30 August 2004 00:35, Richard Urwin wrote: Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al debacle fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase. (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has accused Linus of copying MINIX when creating Linux. That would be an unlicensed use of MINIX and if it were true would call into question the legality of Linux.) Linus wrote wrote the first version of his code on Minix, yes. Does that mean, that if someone writes a love-letter using Microsoft Word that Bill and Steve have a date ? Does Remington own James Joyce's Ulysses because it was typed on a Remington typewriter ? Does Gutenberg own the Bible ? Does the goose own the works of Shakespeare because it was written with a feather ? And so on. Professor Tanenbaum - who wrote Minix - explicitely declared, that there is NO Minix-code in Linux. Period. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.0) - kernel 2.6.7* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] sylpheed-claws gtk2 cvs
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:13:12 -0500 John Drouhard wrote: The *only* thing wrong with it at this point is that it doesn't compile with pgpmime or gnupg correctly. You need to use libgpgme03_6-devel Charles -- Small is beautiful. -- Schumacher's Dictum - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.8.1-4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp1HTjUrcUTd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
Stephen Kühn wrote: I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... Good guess, Stephen. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition
Hoyt Bailey wrote: I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However, the command df -h produces the following: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 4,5G 1,7G 2,6G 40% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7,8G 5,9G 2,0G 76% /mnt/windows Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G? Also, there may be a partition that isn't being mounted...forgot to mention that mate... There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + swap. How big is the drive? Hoyt, As Stephen correctly guessed, what was missing was not mounted. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Multiple ML-10 woes!
Hi all. Today I installed the download version of MDK-10 I had been running 9.2 with no problems but thought I'd try the upgrade to get later versions of everything. Boy was that a mistake!! Everything is dramatically slower from boot up to surfing the web. KMail crashes every time I click on reply to or try to open a new message window. Mozilla which had been working fine now has no spell checker so I can't use it for email either. The Mozilla site says if using Mandrake to just run urpmi mozilla-spellchecker when I do I get the following. [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]# urpmi mozilla-spellchecker unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5)] exists unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6)] exists unable to take medium Contrib CD (cdrom7) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Contrib CD (cdrom7)] exists unable to take medium Installation CD1 (cdrom1) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD1 (cdrom1)] exists unable to take medium Installation CD2 (cdrom2) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD2 (cdrom2)] exists unable to take medium International CD (cdrom3) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom3)] exists unable to take medium International CD (cdrom4) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom4)] exists unable to take medium main into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.main] exists unable to take medium Sources CD1 (cdrom8) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Sources CD1 (cdrom8)] exists no package named mozilla-spellchecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]# Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Oh yes because I'm on a dial up connection I couldn't possibly do the download so I bought the CDs on line from a place called Budget Linux and did the install from those. TIA LTR }}:{( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Star Wars Battlefront port possibility? Hmm...!
Star Wars: Battlefront Port? - posted by Crusader - Sunday Aug 29 08:03:42 2004 linuX-gamers.net pointed out this interview that StarWars-BATTLEFRONT.de conducted with Pandemic Studios concerning their upcoming multiplayer-oriented multi-platform shooter Star Wars: Battlefront. The question of Linux support came up, and surprisingly (as LucasArts has never shown any inclination towards wanting to support Linux clients for their products, despite ILM using it as a workstation platform) Pandemic responded with this: Will you be able to play SWBF on 'exotic' platforms like the Linux-kernel or Mac OS? Will you release a dedicated-server-software? We have been delving into the realm of exotic platforms, actually. Right now, we are definitely supporting all major and current releases of MS Windows (i.e. '98, Me, 2000, and XP). We have also spent some time tinkering with Linux support, as well. We definitely do not want to do anything half-hearted, though, so if we run out of time, we will look into patches, but I can guarantee that if we do ship with it, it will run equally well on any OS we support. Battlefront will actually have a good amount of server options for everybody to use. Specifically for the PC, every retail version will have the ability to handle Hosting and Dedicated Hosting. For the Dedicated Server crowd, you may want to know that we are planning to have multiple server per CPU support, as well. That means that, depending on your system's power, you may be able to run two or three separate servers without any of them taking major performance hits. Also, for those who like to support their console-playing brethren, we are planning to release a standalone Dedicated Server for PS2 games only that will be a free download. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: mp3
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 05:37, David Wallis wrote: Morning Andras Many thanks your reply. I am in the same boat Win to run a couple of bits of hardware BTW is there a pocket sized mp3 player that *is* Linux computable Cheers David --- [E-mail scanned by doggy.com.au for viruses with Declude AntiVirus] Hi David, I'm replying in the list as you sent the reply only to me, probably by mistke. I've been checking out other mp3 players for some time now (and scanners and tweaks on wine) to reduce my reasons for having win on my box. Any thumbdrive style mp3 player that works as a USB mass storage device should be OK with linux. Muzio, iops, iriver, are just a few I found that will work AND have ogg support. This is a must feature for an OSS geek :-) I think iriver have the friendliest attitude towards linux, but their prices have made me wait with getting one. Next time make sure your posts remain in the list, who knows, someone might actually be interested ;-) cheers Andras -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official OpenOffice.org 1.1 Evolution 1.4.6 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Multiple ML-10 woes!
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 12:41, Langsley T Russell wrote: Hi all. Today I installed the download version of MDK-10 I had been running 9.2 with no problems but thought I'd try the upgrade to get later versions of everything. Boy was that a mistake!! Everything is dramatically slower from boot up to surfing the web. KMail crashes every time I click on reply to or try to open a new message window. Mozilla which had been working fine now has no spell checker so I can't use it for email either. The Mozilla site says if using Mandrake to just run urpmi mozilla-spellchecker when I do I get the following. [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]# urpmi mozilla-spellchecker unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom5)] exists unable to take medium Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Commercial Apps CD (cdrom6)] exists unable to take medium Contrib CD (cdrom7) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Contrib CD (cdrom7)] exists unable to take medium Installation CD1 (cdrom1) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD1 (cdrom1)] exists unable to take medium Installation CD2 (cdrom2) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Installation CD2 (cdrom2)] exists unable to take medium International CD (cdrom3) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom3)] exists unable to take medium International CD (cdrom4) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.International CD (cdrom4)] exists unable to take medium main into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.main] exists unable to take medium Sources CD1 (cdrom8) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Sources CD1 (cdrom8)] exists no package named mozilla-spellchecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]# Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Oh yes because I'm on a dial up connection I couldn't possibly do the download so I bought the CDs on line from a place called Budget Linux and did the install from those. TIA As Tina and I have found out, going the upgrade path doesn't quite cut the mustard. We did an upgrade on her machine, and a fresh installation on my machine; big difference. She now has no sound, frequent lockups and crashes, mcc doesn't work properly, urpmi doesn't work properly; but hey, it was just for a test and she's going to do a fresh installation after she backs up her junk. My machine, however, is running fine and dandy. Performance was tweaked a bit from the beginning, so I have all the right drivers, all the right, well, whatever, and very few issues. (Although, MailScanner and SpamAssassin kill my performance sometimes, but hey, this is a server AND a workstation, ya?) -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. No self-respecting fish would want to be wrapped in that kind of paper. -- Mike Royko on the Chicago Sun-Times after it was taken over by Rupert Murdoch Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] test
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Re: [newbie] i2c pooblems w/lm_sensors.
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Friday 27 August 2004 08:58, Thereidos wrote: W licie z pi, 27-08-2004, godz. 14:44, Hoyt Bailey pisze: On Friday 27 August 2004 00:27, Rob Blomquist wrote: snip BTW, I believe that the path /mkdev/mkdev.sh is meant to be within the source code folder, so that a program that usually runs during make or make-install is run. I finally found /mkdev.sh burried in lm_sensors-2.8.5 directory. /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh Running the mkdev.sh allows sensors-detect to run but in the end I could not get the temp's, fans into gkrellm. The following seems to be the problem: 1. For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and done 'modprobe i2c_sensor'! 2. For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'! Line 1 seems important but I dont know what it means. [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ locate sysfs /home/hoyt/Programs/lm_sensors-2.8.5/doc/developers/sysfs-interface There are a lot of sysfs entries but apparantly there is one missing. This is what I've got about mounting sysfs : Add as root this line to /etc/fstab sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 done than just write mount /sys [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# mount /sys mount: sysfs already mounted or /sys busy mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys No sys in /etc/fstab except the line above? If it complains that directory does not exists just create it (mkdir /sys) and repeat :) Let me know if it helped... [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# cat /etc/fstab /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda12 /backup ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda10 /music ext3 defaults 1 2 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /tmp ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# cat /etc/mtab /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 / ext3 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 none /dev devfs rw 0 0 none /sys sysfs rw 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 /backup ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 /home ext3 rw 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 /music ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 /tmp ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 /usr ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 /var ext3 rw 0 0 automount(pid4018) /net autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=4018,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 automount(pid4016) /misc autofs rw,fd=5,pgrp=4016,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 Well thats what happened? This is a guess but, maybe try, as root ldconfig Also you mentioned you got sensors-detect to run but, nothing on gkrellem. Do you get an output from the sensors command? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] USB cardreader problems
This message is crossposted. Opsys: Mandrake 10.0 Official Here's the situation: We have a Kodak DC3200 digital camera which ises a conventional compactflash module for storage. Because we cannot connect the camera directly to computer, there seems to be now way of reading from the camera. Solution was to obtain a 6-in-1 USB cardreader. (DSE XH6747) This is where to problem occurs. The USB 'hotpluging' does work as shown by the contents of /etc/fstab below (watch for wrapping), however we cannot see the contents of the 32mb flash module (which we know to be good and to contain a bunch of pictures) when selecting the icon on the desktop as user nor as root. Of course the usual big but is inserted here - It works ok in WinXP :-( My computer shows the device as 4 separate drives I, J, K and L and the data on the card can be read and copied from drive I(eye) in the /dcim directory. I seem to recall there was discussion on this issue some time ago but haven't been able to locate any references. === /etc/fstab before reader insertion /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom2 auto umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,sync,user,unhide,n odev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 == /etc/fstab after insertion /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom2 auto umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,ro,exec 0 0/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,sync,user,unhide,n odev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 none /mnt/removable supermount dev=/dev/scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocha rset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850 0 0 == John (nz) .mimetmp Description: PGP signature pgpef6hAiF7MF.pgp Description: PGP signature