Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread Graham Watkins
JRH wrote:
Hi all,
Bit of a good one this!
I have 2 HDD's in my machine, and I want to boot from both Drives.
My main drive (/dev/hdc) is where LiLo is installed.
On my main drive, I have: hdc1: Windows 98SE, hdc5: /root, hdc7: /usr, hdc8: 
/home.

The second drive, contains Windows ME (dont ask!!), and DiskDrake sees it as 
/dev/hda, and LiLo sees it as hda1.

In theory, all looks like it should work. But it dont!
When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure message 
(something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please replace and hit any 
key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)

Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is intact etc.
Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
JRH


Dunno much about ME but it's probably the case, as with 98, that in 
order to boot, it needs to be installed on the first sector of the 
Master HD. This would explain why it boots up when you swap the drives. 
(Interesting experiment: - swap the drives then try to boot 98SE. If it 
fails then I'm probably right about this.)

Never heard of a way round this although there are smarter people than 
me on this list so you never know.

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Re: [newbie] A little OT - iRiver iHP-140

2004-08-31 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 10:21:11PM -0700, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Monday 30 August 2004 3:56 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
  Has anyone tried one of these hard drive players with Mandrake?  The ogg
  support and capacity makes it look good, but I wouldn't want to have to
  boot doze to load it!
 
 One of the things about ogg players is that there aren't any car players that 
 will play them. Sort of hacks me off, but I reripped my 20Gb to mp3s to 
 satisfy my need last fall.
 
 I have tried my brothers ipod FM sending unit, and it stunk in my car. Sliding 
 all over the place and reception was lousy.
 
 Mp3s in my car are my #1 need, so ogg support, while I would prefer to use 
 oggs, is not that important.
 
 Rob

I use the iMP-350 in the car. It's cd-based, which kind of sucks, and
oggs have to be of a certain bitrate, but for somebody who refuses to
play mp3's it's about the cheapest option. (got mine for $50)

Todd

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Re: [newbie] mouse kboard dont work

2004-08-31 Thread ostap110



- Original message -
From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:19:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [newbie] mouse  kboard dont work

On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi i have an old keyboard gateway2000 (the one that has 12 'f' buttons
 onn the far left), and a relatively new simple laser logitech mouse.
 It's USB, but I use the P/S 2 adapter that it came with. Whenever I boot
 mandrake, the keyboard stops working. I tried fixing that by, going
 thourgh the Install, and disabling all the services. Then it works, but
 when i try to start the x window, neither keyboard nor mouse works.

 Mandrake is really nice, and i just wanna have a working system with
 printing (btw mandrake is great at setting up printers) and Icewm. I
 really would appreciate if you could help me.
 Regards
 N.

Is the problem apparent only in X-windows?

Does your keyboard have a PS/2 adapter or does it have one of the
old-style 
din connectors?

/g




- Original message -
From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:19:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [newbie] mouse  kboard dont work

On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi i have an old keyboard gateway2000 (the one that has 12 'f' buttons
 onn the far left), and a relatively new simple laser logitech mouse.
 It's USB, but I use the P/S 2 adapter that it came with. Whenever I boot
 mandrake, the keyboard stops working. I tried fixing that by, going
 thourgh the Install, and disabling all the services. Then it works, but
 when i try to start the x window, neither keyboard nor mouse works.

 Mandrake is really nice, and i just wanna have a working system with
 printing (btw mandrake is great at setting up printers) and Icewm. I
 really would appreciate if you could help me.
 Regards
 N.

Is the problem apparent only in X-windows?

Does your keyboard have a PS/2 adapter or does it have one of the
old-style 
din connectors?

/g


The keyboard first didn't work when I booted into console. I went bak
and turned all the services off. It worked. But when I startup X, the
mouse(functioned just fine when testing during the installation), and
the keyboard stop working.

Yes it's a PS/2 keyboard. The Mouse is USB, put there's a PS/2 converter
on it. PS/2 is the around-8-pin round thing I hope:)
 

O.





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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread Asa Rossoff
Vincent Voois wrote:
Asa Rossoff wrote:
When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure 
message (something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please 
replace and hit any key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)

Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is 
intact etc.

Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
JRH
Windows expects to boot from the first drive in the system (which it 
will always call C:).  I believe there are ways to trick it into 
booting from other drives.  I haven't tried it.  Smart Boot Manager 
can do this by (I think) having the bios report the drives in a 
swapped fashion. SBM is at http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/
Right as well as wrong.
First of all, the Bios always searches the first IDE drive for the 
boot-sector and simple executes it and whatever bootmanager is on there, 
it will do the rest.
Unless there is an option in the Bios to change bootpriority for IDE 
drives, you won't be able to change this fact.
I understand that.  Smart Boot Manager can be installed to the boot 
sector of the real first drive, and when you select a Windows/Dos 
partition on the Second drive, it can be configurered to make Win/Dos 
think that the second drive is 1st, and the first drive is 2nd.

SBM is not a kernel loader, so you still need a kernel loader for linux 
(I think it has to be installed on a supersector or something like that 
if you have SBM on track 0... there are instructions with SBM.  It could 
also go on the boot sector of the second hardddrive.)

Second, Windows boots from the first boot-device, but it can be 
configured to have it's OS on another drive by altering the MSDOS.INI 
and in case of WinNT 4.x, 5.x you can alter the BOOT.INI to set the 
drive and startup-path where the os is stored.
If your bootmanager on the primary IDE drive allows you to boot from the 
second drive, you can install all of the Windows data on there but in 
the win9x/ME cases you for sure have to modify the system settings to 
make it boot properly.
I didn't realize Win98 and Me had a similar boot config file to NT/XP. 
It looks like it's actually msdos.sys on Win98 at least, rather than 
msdos.ini.

Since he is running both 98 and Me, on seperate drives and partitions, 
and using Lilo to select them (currently), in theory he could just edit 
the msdos.ini (or msdos.sys) file on his WinMe partition (second drive) 
to indicate that the OS is on drive D: -- it might work.  BUT, he would 
have to reinstall WinMe while the drive is recognized as D: (if the 
WinMe installer allows it) or do some major registry, shortcut and 
config file hacking.

IMHO:Ditch WinME, it's really not worth the trouble, either install 
'98SE or XP, but Win'98 is currently less vulnerable to virusses these 
days as most viruses dedicates themselves to NT5.x exploites 
(XP/2000/2003).
Asa

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[newbie] Microsoft security chief admits to using the Firefox browser.

2004-08-31 Thread frankieh
http://htmlfixit.com/index.php?p=139
This is something funny I came across while doing my daily news search 
for anything web tech related.
I'll bet his bosses are not happy about this little fupar.. regardless 
for his reasons for using it.

I hope my site stays up, I posted the same story in groklaw (and the mdk 
OT list) and I'm currently getting a ton of traffic from them as well. 
It sure does feel good to get the word out though.:-)


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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread András Keszei
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 12:14, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 JRH wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  Bit of a good one this!
  
  I have 2 HDD's in my machine, and I want to boot from both Drives.
  
  My main drive (/dev/hdc) is where LiLo is installed.
  
  On my main drive, I have: hdc1: Windows 98SE, hdc5: /root, hdc7: /usr, hdc8: 
  /home.
  
  The second drive, contains Windows ME (dont ask!!), and DiskDrake sees it as 
  /dev/hda, and LiLo sees it as hda1.
  
  In theory, all looks like it should work. But it dont!
  
  When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure message 
  (something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please replace and hit any 
  key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)
  
  Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is intact etc.
  
  Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
  
  JRH


Now I do my dual OS - dual HDD soulution with W2k, and it works like a
charm: Lilo and linux on HDD1, w2k mbr  OS on HDD2. Lilo can boot
either OS, and both drives can boot without the other drive's mbr.  But
back in the days of W98, I had w98 mbr  OS on HDD1, and lilo  lin on 
HDD2, and I had a boot floppy to boot the system with.
I know.
Boot floppy?
In the 21st century?
This way though, if I took one HDD home with me (I did that a lot), I
could boot up from the other one without any hassle.  I never really
used the floppy drive for anything else, so at least it wasn't
redundant. 
cheers
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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread SnapafunFrank
Asa Rossoff wrote:
Vincent Voois wrote:
Asa Rossoff wrote:
When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure 
message (something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please 
replace and hit any key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)

Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is 
intact etc.

Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
JRH

Windows expects to boot from the first drive in the system (which it 
will always call C:).  I believe there are ways to trick it into 
booting from other drives.  I haven't tried it.  Smart Boot Manager 
can do this by (I think) having the bios report the drives in a 
swapped fashion. SBM is at http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/

Right as well as wrong.
First of all, the Bios always searches the first IDE drive for the 
boot-sector and simple executes it and whatever bootmanager is on 
there, it will do the rest.
Unless there is an option in the Bios to change bootpriority for IDE 
drives, you won't be able to change this fact.

I understand that.  Smart Boot Manager can be installed to the boot 
sector of the real first drive, and when you select a Windows/Dos 
partition on the Second drive, it can be configurered to make Win/Dos 
think that the second drive is 1st, and the first drive is 2nd.

SBM is not a kernel loader, so you still need a kernel loader for 
linux (I think it has to be installed on a supersector or something 
like that if you have SBM on track 0... there are instructions with 
SBM.  It could also go on the boot sector of the second hardddrive.)

Second, Windows boots from the first boot-device, but it can be 
configured to have it's OS on another drive by altering the MSDOS.INI 
and in case of WinNT 4.x, 5.x you can alter the BOOT.INI to set the 
drive and startup-path where the os is stored.
If your bootmanager on the primary IDE drive allows you to boot from 
the second drive, you can install all of the Windows data on there 
but in the win9x/ME cases you for sure have to modify the system 
settings to make it boot properly.

I didn't realize Win98 and Me had a similar boot config file to NT/XP. 
It looks like it's actually msdos.sys on Win98 at least, rather than 
msdos.ini.

Since he is running both 98 and Me, on seperate drives and partitions, 
and using Lilo to select them (currently), in theory he could just 
edit the msdos.ini (or msdos.sys) file on his WinMe partition (second 
drive) to indicate that the OS is on drive D: -- it might work.  BUT, 
he would have to reinstall WinMe while the drive is recognized as D: 
(if the WinMe installer allows it) or do some major registry, shortcut 
and config file hacking.

IMHO:Ditch WinME, it's really not worth the trouble, either install 
'98SE or XP, but Win'98 is currently less vulnerable to virusses 
these days as most viruses dedicates themselves to NT5.x exploites 
(XP/2000/2003).

Asa
Unless you have actually tried for yourself, please layoff saying things 
as if they were fact. As to  windows, WinMe ain't so bad once you bash 
it's face in a bit AND it will run off another HDD without reconfiguring 
anything AND from a install from Mandrake to boot. Don't believe me: 
read the following and weep:

# File generated by DrakX/drakboot
# WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this file
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
default=windows
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=200
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz263
   label=linux263
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd263.img
   append=noapic devfs=mount acpi=ht splash=silent
   vga=788
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz263
   label=linuz263NNet
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd263.img
   append=noapic devfs=mount acpi=ht splash=silent nonetworking=yes
   vga=788
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz263
   label=linux-nonfb263
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd263.img
   append=noapic devfs=mount acpi=ht splash=silent
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz267
   label=linux267
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd267.img
   append=noapic devfs=mount acpi=ht splash=silent
   vga=788
 read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz263
   label=failsafe263
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd263.img
   append=failsafe noapic acpi=ht devfs=nomount
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz267
   label=failsafe267
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd267.img
   append=failsafe noapic acpi=ht devfs=nomount
   read-only
other=/dev/hdb1  
   label=windows
   table=/dev/hdb
   map-drive=0x80
  to=0x81
   map-drive=0x81
  to=0x80
image=/boot/vmlinuz267
   label=linux-nonfb267
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd267.img
   append=noapic devfs=mount acpi=ht splash=silent
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz2422
   label=2422-21
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd2422.img
   append=noapic devfs=mount acpi=ht splash=silent
   read-only

image=/boot/memtest-1.11.bin
   label=memtest-1.11
None of the original was configured br myself, I only added the extra 
kernel stuff 

Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-31 Thread et
On Friday 27 August 2004 07:42, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 Microsoft is their own worst enemy.
Linus Torvalds said the best thing he has goiing for him is that he is not 
Bill Gates...
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[newbie] http://localhost:631/admin

2004-08-31 Thread SnapafunFrank
Err.. I don't recall having ever been here before so was somewhat 
confused when ask for a user name and password for Cups. Anyone know 
where I ought to be looking for this albeit as su?

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Re: [newbie] http://localhost:631/admin

2004-08-31 Thread Thereidos
W licie z wto, 31-08-2004, godz. 11:52, SnapafunFrank pisze: 
 Err.. I don't recall having ever been here before so was somewhat 
 confused when ask for a user name and password for Cups. Anyone know 
 where I ought to be looking for this albeit as su?

It's your root login and password.
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Re: [newbie] http://localhost:631/admin

2004-08-31 Thread SnapafunFrank
Thereidos wrote:
W licie z wto, 31-08-2004, godz. 11:52, SnapafunFrank pisze: 
 

Err.. I don't recall having ever been here before so was somewhat 
confused when ask for a user name and password for Cups. Anyone know 
where I ought to be looking for this albeit as su?
   

It's your root login and password.
 

Tried that thinking the same thing but no go!
HA!!! I didn't think to use 'root' as the login user name... that 
worked. Thanks

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Re: [newbie] KDE - KPPP

2004-08-31 Thread SnapafunFrank
David wrote:
I've just recently upgraded to MDK 10 Official and have upgraded all my kde
files.
Since installing 'kdenetwork-kppp-3.2-17.1.100mdk.i586.rpm' I've experience
problems with the dialler. After installing the /etc/ppp/options were changed,
(cann't remember exactly how it went in the 3rd line but it was something like
this:
lock
noauth
n***default
[where * = a letter])
and now does not want to always connect.
If I use 'wvdial' to connect and then disconnect and try 'kppp' I can then get a
connection with it sometimes.
Has anyone else experienced problems with this upgrade and if so how did you
overcome them if you have.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK_Updates]$ cat /etc/ppp/options
lock
debug
noauth
defaultroute
lcp-max-configure 45
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
idle 600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK_Updates]$ 
These settings were given by a linux knowledgeble helpdesk person from my isp.

^
David Taylor
Taranaki, New Zealand
http://windwand.co.nz
proudly using a 100% Linux, Mandrake OS, computer
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The .100 in the version number suggests to me that you are using 
thacs.rpm. Is this true? If so then you may have to consider updating 
all of kde from thacs site or uninstalling that rpm and issuing:

# urpmi --excludemedia thacs.rpm kdenetwork
I like thacs rpms but have struck a few incompatable probs when using 
only some of the kde rpms, [ Lost kdeinit when I updated kdebase and not 
kdelibs for example.]

Sometimes the odd rebuilt rpm from any site doesn't quite make it as 
backwards compatable so go the whole hog or try things out installing to 
a different location and starting it manually until you are satisfied it 
works.

Be warned, I am extremely newbie in these matters so if you find out 
different to the above please post so that I might learn more.

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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 14:26, JRH wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Bit of a good one this!
 
 I have 2 HDD's in my machine, and I want to boot from both Drives.
 
 My main drive (/dev/hdc) is where LiLo is installed.
 
 On my main drive, I have: hdc1: Windows 98SE, hdc5: /root, hdc7: /usr, hdc8: 
 /home.
 
 The second drive, contains Windows ME (dont ask!!), and DiskDrake sees it as 
 /dev/hda, and LiLo sees it as hda1.
 
 In theory, all looks like it should work. But it dont!
 
 When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure message 
 (something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please replace and hit any 
 key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)
 
 Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is intact etc.
 
 Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
 
 JRH

First some basics:

There is a current mythology running around these days that Winblows (be
it me or xp or 98 or whatever) must have a partition at the beginning of
the drive.  This is patently false and I want to debunk this old wives
tale right now, I'm tired of seeing it.

Second, the prime real estate for any drive is at the beginning of the
drive, not the end.  If a Linux installation is put at the end then you
are most likely depriving your MDK of some prime real estate.

Third, most bioses these days allow you to choose which drive you boot
from.  The installation trick with me, XP, or whatever is to boot your
MDK installation disk #1 into it's install routine, and get the
installation program to the point where you see the partition layouts at
the install screen.  I know about the rescue disk option but I've done
extensive work both ways, and it turns out that for low level
maintenance, an install boot is handier than a rescue disk boot.  An MDK
install boot to the partitioning step makes a better rescue disk than
the rescue disk.

Once you see that screen, you do ctrl-alt-f2 and that puts you in a
console screen, with all filesystem modules loaded that you need for
that box.  After you do that, use fdisk to set up all your partitons,
including the Windows one.  What I do is allocate an extended partition
first, the size I want the linux install to be.  It would look like
this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] elx]# fdisk -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 160.2 GB, 160226334720 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19478 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   * 1  4462  35840983+  85  Linux extended
/dev/sda5 1 6 48132   83  Linux
/dev/sda6 793698796   83  Linux
/dev/sda794   160538146   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda8   161   307   1180746   83  Linux
/dev/sda9   308   902   4779306   83  Linux
/dev/sda10  903  4462  28595668+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2   *  4463  7961  28113718+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3  7962 19478  92510302+   c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

sda5 = boot
sda6 = root
sda7 = swap
sda8 = tmp
sda9 = usr
sda10 = var

Boot-root are special cases, don't take up much room, and therefore
have a minimal impact on the prime real estate at the drive spindle; and
boot speed is my main reason for putting them there, besides there being
an old under-the-1024 cylinder OS boot rule that I still subconsiously
respect for some reason.  Swap is first in line to take advantage of
spindle real estate; followed by /tmp. You definitely want swap to have
the best seat in the house, with /tmp following a close second. 
Generally you want to put partitions that have the shortest file
lifetimes closer to the spindle and partitions that have files with the
longest file lifetimes out towards the edge of the platter.  /usr has
long file lifetimes and thus as you see above is an exception to the
latter speed rule, but I put it where it is for reasons of program load
speed.  There's always an exception to the rule. ;)

Note that I have given NTFS and Win98 primary partitions and I have put
Linux inside a type 85.  The reason for that is that Winblows is less
likely to screw with the tables of a non-dos partition that it does not
understand, and a type 85 has historically fallen within that category. 
Note also that I have put these partitions at the end of the drive; that
is because they simply have the lowest priority. ;)

Note also that there is no primary partition for Linux.  This is simply
because of symmetry and also because of the fact that Linux doesn't need
one.  MDK can operate completely within an extended partition shell with
no problem and it is preferable to do it this way for many reasons. 
Retain your primary partition entries (which are very limited in number)
for dumber stupider OS's like XP, ME, or 98se.

Now the trick.  After partitioning layout is done you start your
winblows installation; do not install MDK.  You tell your bios to boot
from the winblows drive after you have done all your partitioning setup
with 

Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 30 August 2004 11:14 pm, Asa Rossoff wrote:

 Windows expects to boot from the first drive in the system (which it
 will always call C:).  I believe there are ways to trick it into booting
 from other drives.  I haven't tried it.  Smart Boot Manager can do this
 by (I think) having the bios report the drives in a swapped fashion.
 SBM is at http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/

Not totally correct.  Windows NT, 2000, XP can all boot from drives other than 
C: or the first drive in the system.  16 bit versions or versions that 
contain 16 bit legacy code, such as 95, 98, ME, etc. will only boot from the 
C: drive.

Now, the BIOS will expect to find a boot loader on the hard drive that you 
tell it is the primary boot device, but that can be any drive in the system, 
not necessarily the first one.

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[newbie] [help]Mandrake 10 installation

2004-08-31 Thread Kassem Nasser

Hi guys
I installed Man10 but I was faced with a lot of packages installing errors
during installation like 'error in installing packege appache2', but I
continued installing it.
when everything is finished and I rebooted the system ,when it arrived to the
user menu there was about ten users that I did not ask for them like 'appache,
xfc,administrator,kassem,..'and when I clicked on my account and filled the
password the screen blinks and goes back to the users menu.
Anybody know what is wrong.
Best regards,

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 00:04, Vincent Voois wrote:
 Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  any different.  This is also true of UNIX and other OS's
  such as IBM can you imagine IBM loseing business to linux.

 IBM always had a good arrogant head up, this is why they had
 to fire over 40.000 people back 1 and a half decade ago. They
 have the potential to do it again on this market. They already
 loose in Asia and Africa as Microsoft really get's whooped-ass
 over there due to the fact people rather using Linux in those
 regions.
That just proves that their people are smarter than ours.
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[newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread M.Schild
My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to 
save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she 
could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about 
that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch 
screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win 
XPbut would prefer Linux if it works
Anyone has any solution?
thanks
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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread Vincent Voois

SnapafunFrank wrote:
Unless you have actually tried for yourself, please layoff saying things 
as if they were fact. As to  windows, WinMe ain't so bad once you bash 
For the fact that i couldn't run half the shit in WinME due to whatever MS invention was in there makes ME a pretty invaluable 
Win9X environment. (I still had a lot of DOS applications i wanted to run which ME didn't allow anymore and so were many 
companies having office tools based upon DOS that did not worked (properly) in ME)
ME supposed to be the stepping stone to NTFS system but it was lacking tools that were very usefull in Win9X and had things that 
 crapped up various software packages. I couldn't even get Adobe Premiere to run in it, neither could i get bug-free hardware 
drivers for my pinnacle card for ME (as it did not support a load of other new hardware either which was released after Windows ME)

It's a fact that some people like WinME but it's also a fact that WinME was a marketfailure and not only for the reasons i just 
mentioned.
If it works:Congratulations and have fun, but if considering for a new install: VOID it.
For one thing it was good for was the silent hint that DOS software-support were about to become a thing of the past.

it's face in a bit AND it will run off another HDD without reconfiguring 
anything AND from a install from Mandrake to boot. Don't believe me: 
read the following and weep:
If you have only a non-FAT or non-NTFS platform on your primary harddrive, your 
second harddrive will always become C:\.
But if you have a Windows system on your primary partitions which shares the same FS as the one on your second harddrive...
Generally the msdos.sys holds a line which points to the systemdir. This has never been different, neither in current NT's 
boot.ini, it's required that the windows system knows where it's systemfolder is, Unless you have no other existing windows 
environments on your primary harddrive, you will have to configure that and that was my point.




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Re: [newbie] [help]Mandrake 10 installation

2004-08-31 Thread Thereidos
W licie z wto, 31-08-2004, godz. 13:36, Kassem Nasser pisze: 
 Hi guys
 I installed Man10 but I was faced with a lot of packages installing errors
 during installation like 'error in installing packege appache2', but I
 continued installing it.
 when everything is finished and I rebooted the system ,when it arrived to the
 user menu there was about ten users that I did not ask for them like 'appache,
 xfc,administrator,kassem,..'and when I clicked on my account and filled the
 password the screen blinks and goes back to the users menu.
 Anybody know what is wrong.
 Best regards,

Maybe your desktop's packages haven't been installed properly. Try other
environment. If it is completely fresh install try to reinstall mdk (and
format any linux partitions).

If it won't help you might have some problems with the cd you've
installed from (most probable). When reinstalling pay attention on which
cd are those corrupted packages and try to re-download those disks.

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Re: [newbie] [help]Mandrake 10 installation

2004-08-31 Thread Kassem Nasser
Thank you Thereidos
but what did you meant about the enviroment,
and what about the 'users menu' problem where I have users like apache,xfs,and
others that I did not create them.

Best regards,

Quoting Thereidos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 W li¶cie z wto, 31-08-2004, godz. 13:36, Kassem Nasser pisze:
  Hi guys
  I installed Man10 but I was faced with a lot of packages installing errors
  during installation like 'error in installing packege appache2', but I
  continued installing it.
  when everything is finished and I rebooted the system ,when it arrived to
 the
  user menu there was about ten users that I did not ask for them like
 'appache,
  xfc,administrator,kassem,..'and when I clicked on my account and filled
 the
  password the screen blinks and goes back to the users menu.
  Anybody know what is wrong.
  Best regards,

 Maybe your desktop's packages haven't been installed properly. Try other
 environment. If it is completely fresh install try to reinstall mdk (and
 format any linux partitions).

 If it won't help you might have some problems with the cd you've
 installed from (most probable). When reinstalling pay attention on which
 cd are those corrupted packages and try to re-download those disks.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread charlie
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote:
 My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to
 save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she
 could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about
 that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch
 screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win
 XPbut would prefer Linux if it works
 Anyone has any solution?
 thanks
 Maryse

The touch pad works in my Acer but with the 2.4 kernel, it never gets past the 
mouse configuration with the 2.6 kernel. No matter what I have tried, and 
commands are passed to the kernel, it won't get past that point.

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[newbie] OT? win2k clients are printing via Samba/CUPS-Printer but ...

2004-08-31 Thread Harald T ZIPKO
... if the printers are just highlighted in the win2k printer-window, 
there's a message similar like

'Access denied, No connection to Printer'

But printing _is_ possible ;-) (Printers are defined via samba as guest 
OK...)
It's not very important but I would like to know why win2k is 
complaining about a denied access to the linuxed network printer access 
although printing is possible
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Re: [newbie] [help]Mandrake 10 installation

2004-08-31 Thread Thereidos
W licie z wto, 31-08-2004, godz. 14:38, Kassem Nasser pisze: 
 Thank you Thereidos
 but what did you meant about the enviroment,
 and what about the 'users menu' problem where I have users like apache,xfs,and
 others that I did not create them.

Saying enviroment I mean desktop enviroment (KDE, Gnome, XFCE, IceWM
etc.).

As for the users this is somehow related to the errors you had but I
haven't got a clue how. Do not worry about it now, you can remove them
later.
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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-31 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 04:29, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 Vincent Voois wrote:
  Asa Rossoff wrote:


snip


 
  Second, Windows boots from the first boot-device, but it can be 
  configured to have it's OS on another drive by altering the MSDOS.INI 
  and in case of WinNT 4.x, 5.x you can alter the BOOT.INI to set the 
  drive and startup-path where the os is stored.
  If your bootmanager on the primary IDE drive allows you to boot from the 
  second drive, you can install all of the Windows data on there but in 
  the win9x/ME cases you for sure have to modify the system settings to 
  make it boot properly.
 
 I didn't realize Win98 and Me had a similar boot config file to NT/XP. 
 It looks like it's actually msdos.sys on Win98 at least, rather than 
 msdos.ini.
 
 Since he is running both 98 and Me, on seperate drives and partitions, 
 and using Lilo to select them (currently), in theory he could just edit 
 the msdos.ini (or msdos.sys) file on his WinMe partition (second drive) 
 to indicate that the OS is on drive D: -- it might work.  BUT, he would 
 have to reinstall WinMe while the drive is recognized as D: (if the 
 WinMe installer allows it) or do some major registry, shortcut and 
 config file hacking.
 
  IMHO:Ditch WinME, it's really not worth the trouble, either install 
  '98SE or XP, but Win'98 is currently less vulnerable to virusses these 
  days as most viruses dedicates themselves to NT5.x exploites 
  (XP/2000/2003).
 
 Asa


I'm not at all sure you guys have a good understanding of what msdos.sys
does.  Msdos.sys doesn't have jack to do with the boot process; that is
set at windows installation time.  The only thing that msdos.sys does is
set the path for windows; it merely tells windows where to look for it's
binaries (dll exe etc).  The true motherload of drive relevant
information resides in the registry.  Msdos.sys merely sets environment
variables; that's all.

Another thing to realize is that at it's core, msdos.sys is truly a dos
artifact and NOT a windows artifact.  Dos loads first and then winblows
gets loaded by the dos environment, depending on what dos tells it to do
by virtue of the parameters in msdos.sys.

Also, msdos.sys was not always a text file.  In Dos version 6.22 it was
binary and was actually part of three components of the operating
system.  (I include the command interpreter in that number.) 
Subsequently in dos 7.00 it was kept for some wierd compatibility
reasons, but changed to a parameter text file.  Dos 7.10 kept that
convention.

Barring reinstallation it is very problematic to mess around with the
msdos.sys file path line.  You still have a bazillion inf and registry
entries to deal with if there is a drive change.  Much better to
reinstall.

Having said that there's alot of stuff you can do with msdos.sys.  For
instance:

--

[Paths]
WinDir=C:\USR\98R2
WinBootDir=C:\USR\98R2
HostWinBootDrv=C

[Options]
AutoScan=0
BootDelay=0
BootWarn=0
BootGUI=0
BootKeys=1
BootMenu=1
BootMenuDelay=2
BootMulti=1
DoubleBuffer=0
DblSpace=1
DrvSpace=0
LoadTop=0
Logo=0
;
;The following lines are required for compatibility with other programs.
;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be 1024 bytes).
;xa
;xb
;xc
;xd
;xe
;xf
;xg
;xh
;xi
;xj
;xk
;xl
;xm
;xn
;xo
;xp
;xq
;xr
;xs
DisableLog=0
WinVer=4.10.

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Why the funky nonstandard path?  Once upon an age ago I was
experimenting with wine and 98se under Linux.  But in any case, as some
examples, looking above you can see where you can keep the logo from
being displayed or you can have the system boot you directly into dos
and then 

Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread M.Schild
charlie wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote:
 

My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop asked a professional to
save what she could. I did slip the professional my Mandrake CDs so she
could try to install 10. She had problems with the modem ( we knew about
that, easily solved), the sound and , much more annoying, the touch
screen ( or whatever it is called). Now she is back on a limping Win
XPbut would prefer Linux if it works
Anyone has any solution?
thanks
Maryse
   

The touch pad works in my Acer but with the 2.4 kernel, it never gets past the 
mouse configuration with the 2.6 kernel. No matter what I have tried, and 
commands are passed to the kernel, it won't get past that point.

Charlie.
 

 

In this case, it wold be easier if I installed 9.1
Maryse

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Re: [newbie] [help]Mandrake 10 installation

2004-08-31 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Aug 31, 2004, at 6:36, Kassem Nasser wrote:
Hi guys
I installed Man10 but I was faced with a lot of packages installing 
errors
during installation like 'error in installing packege appache2', but I
continued installing it.
when everything is finished and I rebooted the system ,when it arrived 
to the
user menu there was about ten users that I did not ask for them like 
'appache,
xfc,administrator,kassem,..'and when I clicked on my account and 
filled the
password the screen blinks and goes back to the users menu.
Anybody know what is wrong.
I faced a similar nightmare install few weeks ago and eventually I 
found that the problem was defective memory.  Try to boot from the 
first CD and instead of starting the install, run memtest and let it 
test your memory at least for one full cycle.

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[newbie] File System Problem

2004-08-31 Thread David Johnson
Hi all,

We had a power failure the other day and now my ML10.0 system barfs out messages every 
so often to the main screen (presumably when it does an FS check) that look like the 
following:

INFO   :   [2004-08-31T06:33:15-0700] msg=,Check failed., path=/etc/ioctl.save

I presume that this is due to file system errors caused by the power failure and the 
system not shutting down properly, but how can I fix the problem?  I have tried 
running fsck and forcing it, but I'm still getting the problem.

Can anyone offer a different solution?

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Re: [newbie] File System Problem

2004-08-31 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 11:01, David Johnson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 We had a power failure the other day and now my ML10.0 system barfs out messages 
 every so often to the main screen (presumably when it does an FS check) that look 
 like the following:
 
 INFO :   [2004-08-31T06:33:15-0700] msg=,Check failed., path=/etc/ioctl.save
 
 I presume that this is due to file system errors caused by the power failure and the 
 system not shutting down properly, but how can I fix the problem?  I have tried 
 running fsck and forcing it, but I'm still getting the problem.
 
 Can anyone offer a different solution?
 
 TIA


You havent told us wether you are running a journaling file system or
for that matter even what kind of file system you have.

The first thing I would do were I you would be to get your data backed
up to another drive.  I'd do this before attempting any more fixes.


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Re: [newbie] xsessionerrors file growing

2004-08-31 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday 30 August 2004 06:03 pm, warren wrote:
 hi all,

 while trying to work out why i couldn´t burn dvds i happened to
 check the .xsessionerrors file which wouldn´t open.

 Eventually i opened it with tail -f and it spewed forth:

 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
 ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)

 and proceeded to do so at the rate of 3 or 4 lines a second. I
 have just recently installed MDK 10 on a new HDD.

 Every day as soon as i turn my machine on the file starts to
 grow, and although it only grows by MB or so an hour this cant
 been good for things.

 Any ideas?

I've only seen that problem in cooker 10.1.  And cooker by 
nature of being updated several times daily, the problem was 
eventually fixed.  In the meantime, as root, 
'rm -f .xsession-errors', log out of KDE and then back in. A new, 
small .xsession-errors will be recreated. As root make it read 
only.  Not a fix, but it will prevent the file from filling up 
your partition.
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[newbie] KDE: problem with sorting icons on the desktop

2004-08-31 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All
Every time I start a new session, the icons on my desktop do not keep 
the same sorting; they appear quite unsorted, indeed, although correctly 
horizontally aligned. I have looked, in the menus, for an option to 
control that, but I have found nothing. I am using KDE 3.2 and Mandrake 
10. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
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[newbie] FTP Download issues...

2004-08-31 Thread Travis Crook
Hi all,
I experience some strange behavior when I try to download files, etc.
from an ftp site.  For example, when I click the following (to download
UltraEdit) it times out. 

http://www.ultraedit.com/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=1

When I click the same link on a Windows box on the same intranet I can
download it no problem. 

I am behind a firewall but so is the Windows box.  I'm guessing it has
something to do with my Linux box but I don't know what!

Any ideas on why this is? 

tia

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Re: [newbie] FTP Download issues...

2004-08-31 Thread PM
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 22:10, Travis Crook wrote:
 Hi all,
   I experience some strange behavior when I try to download files, etc.
 from an ftp site.  For example, when I click the following (to download
 UltraEdit) it times out. 
 
 http://www.ultraedit.com/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=1
 
 When I click the same link on a Windows box on the same intranet I can
 download it no problem. 
 
 I am behind a firewall but so is the Windows box.  I'm guessing it has
 something to do with my Linux box but I don't know what!
 
 Any ideas on why this is? 
 
 tia

At a guess, you're using Internet Explorer on the Windows box, and it's
a non-standard site, e.g uses the crap MS called javascript .

if this is true you can do several things:

1. set up your browser to masquerade as IE, (Opera is probably the
easiest),
2. download using windows,

and the MOST IMPORTANT

3. contact the owner of the site and complain about their web page not
using standard HTML coding, thereby reducing their consumer base.


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[newbie] Firewire external enclosure with HD : message log at boot

2004-08-31 Thread centaure domain
Hi,

i've got a Mandrake 9.2 on a Shuttle X with 2 firewire port 1394

I've visited the linux1394 website  read the FAQ.
Nothing happened with modprob -r sbp2 and the rescan scsi bus script.

But when i see on the boot message log, here is what i can read :

  
Aug 28 20:24:26 localhost kernel: ohci1394: $Rev$ Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 28 20:24:26 localhost kernel: ohci1394_0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[19]  
MMIO=[e8001000-e80017ff]  Max Packet=[204
8]
Aug 28 20:24:26 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node 0-01:1023 has non-standard ROM format 
(0 quads), cannot parse
Aug 28 20:24:26 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023 has non-standard ROM format 
(0 quads), cannot parse


Anyone could tell me what is the problem;
Can i solve it ?


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[newbie] Upgrading

2004-08-31 Thread Wally Brown









Does anyone know how I can upgrade my site to
version 4.5.1 from 4.5 without having to redo all my pages?






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Re: [newbie] Upgrading

2004-08-31 Thread et
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 17:02, Wally Brown wrote:
 version 4.5.1 from 4.5
of what program?

please don't send html-mail to this list 
(you wannna see what it looks like???)
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Re: [newbie] [help]Mandrake 10 installation

2004-08-31 Thread et
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 10:15, Avi Schwartz wrote:
 On Aug 31, 2004, at 6:36, Kassem Nasser wrote:
  Hi guys
  I installed Man10 but I was faced with a lot of packages installing
  errors
  during installation like 'error in installing packege appache2', but I
  continued installing it.
  when everything is finished and I rebooted the system ,when it arrived
  to the
  user menu there was about ten users that I did not ask for them like
  'appache,
  xfc,administrator,kassem,..'and when I clicked on my account and
  filled the
  password the screen blinks and goes back to the users menu.
  Anybody know what is wrong.

 I faced a similar nightmare install few weeks ago and eventually I
 found that the problem was defective memory.  Try to boot from the
 first CD and instead of starting the install, run memtest and let it
 test your memory at least for one full cycle.

 Avi

are you typing the password with the num locks on or off?? have you tried it 
the other way? the settings for your display manager are what is showing 
every user. when you are at the password prompt, in X (so you are seeing 
those names)  try to do a ctrl+alt+f3 (or f1 thru f6) and try to login there.
if you give up trying to log in, get back and we will start your computer with 
single user mode (linux1 after hitting escape when the lilo prompt is up.


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Re: [newbie] Upgrading

2004-08-31 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:02:02 -0600
Wally Brown disseminated the following:

 Does anyone know how I can upgrade my site to version 4.5.1 from 4.5 without
 having to redo all my pages? 

Ok, you gotta be kiddin' me. Not only *HTML* but a *cutesy coloured
background*??!!

What's next, freakin' animated gifs of dancing babies?

sigh

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Re: [newbie] CUPS

2004-08-31 Thread Steve
Thank you,
It is now working.
Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] CUPS


On Monday 30 August 2004 4:15 pm, Steve wrote:
After I intsall CUPS from the RPMs and then go to Configure your
hardwarePrinters, it tries to load CUPS again, opens the packages to
install it (even though I have already installed it) and then fails with
the message CUPS cannot be installed. It does this every time.
You installed it using rpm, no? Under mandrake one needs to use urpmi, as 
its
urpmi that is having the problem.

I am not sure how to correct this problem, if there is one.
Now, let the configure your hardware stuff alone, Use the Cups software to
configure it all. Point your browser at http://localhost:631/ and fire 
away.
The CUPS web interface should come right up.

If you have problems with that, and its a pretty simple interface, then 
you
can click the on-line help link to get help from the cups website.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:32:26 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following:

  No not specifically, if you don't have any money to spend on software,
  you use free software.
  In a way smarter:it's smarter than downloading illegal versions of
  Microsoft ware. But Asians and Africans still have some good 
  pot of politeness in comparance to the average western arrogant PC
  user.
 
 So let me see if I got this straight.  You are saying that entire
 majority of PC users in the western world are arrogant?

Terrible, just terrible, to generalize like that, yes. He should have specified
*Americans* ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread charlie
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:30 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote:
  I couldn't get the win modem to work because 9.2 didn't supply
  a kernel source and I am in very slow dial up. That is the problem with
  that lappy, no serial port. But someone posted something about a modem
  card that might be the way to go. But haven't investigated it as yet.
  Price is about $AU135.oo.
 
  HTH
 
  Charlie

 arrh!  if australian dollars are anywhere close in value to
 american dollars, then that price is awful!!!  check this out:

 http://www.meritline.com/zfm5600-v-92-56kb-fax-modem-pcmcia-pc-card.html

 and note at the bottom of the page thay have an aussie flag icon marked:

 'Australia customers, click here.'  i've used this brand/model pcmcia
 hardware modem with my toshiba laptop for several years now.

Thanks Alan,

I don't know anything about these cards, but read something about them on this 
or the expert list some time back.

I looked at the above website and then moved to the one in OZ, but copying the 
exact name in had no results there, and also typing in pcmcia modem card had 
no result. So maybe there is something about the card that is not accepted in 
Oz. I have only ever found one, that being the one which I posted the price 
on.

I don't think they are much used in this country. But when I bought the lappy 
I didn't check, but just assumed [ which as it turned out, made an ass of 
me ] a serial port. We are about to move to solar power, and the lappy will 
drag less power.

The $Au is valued at about half the US dollar.

I will keep looking, there is no option but dial up in the bush here.

Thanks again.

Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] Upgrading

2004-08-31 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:13:54 -0400
JoeHill wrote:

 Thank you, come again!


They've put you back on the meds, haven't they?



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread Alan Shoemaker
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 04:37 pm, charlie wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:30 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote:
   I couldn't get the win modem to work because 9.2 didn't supply
   a kernel source and I am in very slow dial up. That is the problem with
   that lappy, no serial port. But someone posted something about a modem
   card that might be the way to go. But haven't investigated it as yet.
   Price is about $AU135.oo.
  
   HTH
  
   Charlie
 
  arrh!  if australian dollars are anywhere close in value to
  american dollars, then that price is awful!!!  check this out:
 
  http://www.meritline.com/zfm5600-v-92-56kb-fax-modem-pcmcia-pc-card.html
 
  and note at the bottom of the page thay have an aussie flag icon marked:
 
  'Australia customers, click here.'  i've used this brand/model pcmcia
  hardware modem with my toshiba laptop for several years now.

 Thanks Alan,

 I don't know anything about these cards, but read something about them on
 this or the expert list some time back.

 I looked at the above website and then moved to the one in OZ, but copying
 the exact name in had no results there, and also typing in pcmcia modem
 card had no result. So maybe there is something about the card that is not
 accepted in Oz. I have only ever found one, that being the one which I
 posted the price on.

that's certainly a bummer.  use froogle:

http://froogle.google.com/

and type in the search window:

australia pcmcia 56k modem

then in the list that results (i got over 800 hits), look for 56k pcmcia 
modems that are priced better than $130.  the before purchase, verify with 
the seller that it is, in fact, a hardware modem, and not a winmodem, 
softmodem, hfc modem etc.  good luck and be careful, caveat emptor!


 I don't think they are much used in this country. But when I bought the
 lappy I didn't check, but just assumed [ which as it turned out, made an
 ass of me ] a serial port. We are about to move to solar power, and the
 lappy will drag less power.

 The $Au is valued at about half the US dollar.

 I will keep looking, there is no option but dial up in the bush here.

 Thanks again.

 Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 07:24:34PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:32:26 -0400
 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following:
 
   No not specifically, if you don't have any money to spend on software,
   you use free software.
   In a way smarter:it's smarter than downloading illegal versions of
   Microsoft ware. But Asians and Africans still have some good 
   pot of politeness in comparance to the average western arrogant PC
   user.
  
  So let me see if I got this straight.  You are saying that entire
  majority of PC users in the western world are arrogant?
 
 Terrible, just terrible, to generalize like that, yes. He should have specified
 *Americans* ;-)

My wife is quick to point out that she is American, even though she is
not a US citizen ;)

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Re: [newbie] Upgrading

2004-08-31 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:50:14 -0400
Charles A Edwards disseminated the following:

 They've put you back on the meds, haven't they?

You betcha, massive doses of Thorazine.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-31 Thread et
On Friday 27 August 2004 13:52, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 Kmail unstable?
 Outlook and Outlook Express are unstable; Kmail is just, er, quirky.
that would be... 'random enhancements'
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Re: [newbie] dvdshrink and wine

2004-08-31 Thread evolt
Vincent Voois wrote:
What kind of troubles do you have with DVDShrink?
I usually use DVDDecrypter if DVDShrink does not succeed, when i got the 
decrypted vob files on HD i then use DVDshrink to reauthor or compress 
elements of the DVD.
This is a good test to see if it operates properly at all.

And burning with DVDshrink does not work in Windows itself properly 
either if there is any other burn application installed like Nero. (It's 
Nero's DVDr driver that is getting in DVDShrink's way, this may count 
for other installed burn apps as well)

If I run it by clicking on the .exe (in KDE) I am asked to agree to the 
licence, I do, then the main window for dvdshrink appears, along with a 
little exception raised window (empty of any info which might help me 
solve the problem). If I run it from the command line I get this error 
message:
 Warning: the specified System directory LC:\\windows\\system is not 
accessible.
Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory 
'/home/evolt/Desktop', starting in the Windows directory.
wine: cannot open (null)

I do have winxp installed, and wine had previously been set up to use 
it. I looked for the wine.cfg in /etc/wine but none seems to have been 
installed this time (I removed them after uninstalling wine and tried 
re-installing it)

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Joe.
evolt wrote:
Having some troubles running dvdshrink under wine. Installed the 
latest wine rpm because I read changes had been made to make dvdshrink 
work better. Anyone have success running dvdshrink with wine and mdk 10?

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[newbie] System locks up every 10days

2004-08-31 Thread Chris
This an odd question and there may not be a valid answer, but here goes.  
About every 10days the system locks up for seemingly unrelated reasons.  
For instance, last time it happened it locked up while one of the 
X-Screensavers was running.  I noted which one was on the screen at the 
time and disabled it.  I've since only enabled two of the screensavers, 
Nose Guy and Phosper.  Last night I installed FSV just to see how it 
looked, install went fine and it ran great, tonight I brought it up, went 
to open a directory and the system locked up tighter than a drum, uptime 
was at about 10days, 20+ hrs.  Last time the lockup came at about the same 
amount of uptime.  This is with MDK 9.0.  Althought I've gone 30+ days 
previously before I had to hit the reset due to a lockup and if I remember 
that was due to a game that the system just didn't like.  Any ideas on what 
could be the problem?

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Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days

2004-08-31 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:25 pm, Chris wrote:
 This an odd question and there may not be a valid answer, but here goes.
 About every 10days the system locks up for seemingly unrelated reasons.
 For instance, last time it happened it locked up while one of the
 X-Screensavers was running.  I noted which one was on the screen at the
 time and disabled it.  I've since only enabled two of the screensavers,
 Nose Guy and Phosper.  Last night I installed FSV just to see how it
 looked, install went fine and it ran great, tonight I brought it up, went
 to open a directory and the system locked up tighter than a drum, uptime
 was at about 10days, 20+ hrs.  Last time the lockup came at about the same
 amount of uptime.  This is with MDK 9.0.  Althought I've gone 30+ days
 previously before I had to hit the reset due to a lockup and if I remember
 that was due to a game that the system just didn't like.  Any ideas on what
 could be the problem?
have you checked the syslogs? Kinda sounds like something is being saved to 
say /tmp until there is no room and /tmp is only cleared on reboot. Just a 
wild guess.
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Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days

2004-08-31 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 09:30 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:25 pm, Chris wrote:
  This an odd question and there may not be a valid answer, but here
  goes. About every 10days the system locks up for seemingly unrelated
  reasons. For instance, last time it happened it locked up while one of

 have you checked the syslogs? Kinda sounds like something is being saved
 to say /tmp until there is no room and /tmp is only cleared on reboot.
 Just a wild guess.

Dennis, in the /root/tmp are 192 hidden files called .drakx-stdout.(a number 
here, ie..11153.  The contents of these files are:

alsa0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
dm  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:on6:off
kheader 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:off   5:on6:off
keytable0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
netfs   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
network 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
partmon 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
random  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
rawdevices  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
sound   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
saslauthd   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
syslog  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
crond   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
xfs 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
portmap 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
xinetd  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
httpd   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
apmd0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
cups0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
linuxconf   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
iptables0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
atd 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
devfsd  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
gpm 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
postgresql  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
numlock 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
rwhod   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
routed  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
postfix 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
mysql   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
named   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
ipvsadm 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
upsmon  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
prelude 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
yppasswdd   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
webmin  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
internet0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:off   5:on6:off
ypserv  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
ypxfrd  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
oki4daemon  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
ntpd0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
firestarter 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
mtink   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
sensors 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
spamassassin0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
sendmail0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
xinetd based services:
chargen-udp:off
chargen:off
daytime-udp:off
daytime:off
echo-udp:   off
echo:   off
services:   off
servers:off
time-udp:   off
time:   off
cups-lpd:   off
xadmin: off
fam:on
linuxconf-web:  off
rsync:  off
cvs:off
I'd hazard a guess and say the above is not the 'tmp' you're referring to, 
however, now that I've mentioned these files, what are these and can they 
be deleted?

My actual /tmp is 125.5mb with 124mb free.  I assume that this was the /tmp 
you were referring to?  I'll keep an eye on /tmp over the next few days and 
see if it grows.

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Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days

2004-08-31 Thread Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 09:54 pm, Chris wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 August 2004 09:30 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:25 pm, Chris wrote:
   This an odd question and there may not be a valid answer, but here
   goes. About every 10days the system locks up for seemingly unrelated
   reasons. For instance, last time it happened it locked up while one of
 
  have you checked the syslogs? Kinda sounds like something is being saved
  to say /tmp until there is no room and /tmp is only cleared on reboot.
  Just a wild guess.

 Dennis, in the /root/tmp are 192 hidden files called .drakx-stdout.(a
 number here, ie..11153.  The contents of these files are:

 alsa  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 dm0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:on6:off
 kheader   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:off   5:on6:off
 keytable  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 netfs 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 network   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 partmon   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 random0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 rawdevices0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 sound 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 saslauthd 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 syslog0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 crond 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 xfs   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 portmap   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 xinetd0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 httpd 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 apmd  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 cups  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 linuxconf 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 iptables  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 atd   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 devfsd0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 gpm   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 postgresql0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 numlock   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 rwhod 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 routed0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 postfix   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 mysql 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 named 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 ipvsadm   0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:on5:on6:off
 upsmon0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 prelude   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 yppasswdd 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 webmin0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 internet  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:off   5:on6:off
 ypserv0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 ypxfrd0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 oki4daemon0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 ntpd  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 firestarter   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 mtink 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
 sensors   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 spamassassin  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 sendmail  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 xinetd based services:
   chargen-udp:off
   chargen:off
   daytime-udp:off
   daytime:off
   echo-udp:   off
   echo:   off
   services:   off
   servers:off
   time-udp:   off
   time:   off
   cups-lpd:   off
   xadmin: off
   fam:on
   linuxconf-web:  off
   rsync:  off
   cvs:off
 I'd hazard a guess and say the above is not the 'tmp' you're referring to,
 however, now that I've mentioned these files, what are these and can they
 be deleted?

 My actual /tmp is 125.5mb with 124mb free.  I assume that this was the /tmp
 you were referring to?  I'll keep an eye on /tmp over the next few days and
 see if it grows.
The above are the current xinit 

Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days

2004-08-31 Thread jon fuller
I can't even seem to load the program from the disks I bought is there any driver issues with my hardware? It haults and asks me to reboot when I'm loading the packages. Specifically when it gets to Fonts.

mandrake 10 64 version

athlon 64 3000
asus K8V
2 raptors 70 gigs apiece
9600XT
sony CDRWDennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 09:54 pm, Chris wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 09:30 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:  On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:25 pm, Chris wrote:   This an odd question and there may not be a valid answer, but here   goes. About every 10days the system locks up for seemingly unrelated   reasons. For instance, last time it happened it locked up while one of   have you checked the syslogs? Kinda sounds like something is being saved  to say /tmp until there is no room and /tmp is only cleared on reboot.  Just a wild guess. Dennis, in the /root/tmp are 192 hidden files called .drakx-stdout.(a number here, ie..11153. The contents of these files are: alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off dm 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off
 4:off 5:on 6:off kheader 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off keytable 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off netfs 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off network 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off partmon 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off random 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off rawdevices 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off sound 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off saslauthd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off syslog 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off crond 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off xfs 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off portmap 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off httpd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off apmd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off cups 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off linuxconf 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off
 iptables 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off atd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off devfsd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off gpm 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off postgresql 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off numlock 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off rwhod 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off routed 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off postfix 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off mysql 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off named 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off ipvsadm 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off upsmon 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off prelude 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off yppasswdd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off webmin 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off internet 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off ypserv 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off ypxfrd 0:off
 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off oki4daemon 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off ntpd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off firestarter 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off mtink 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off sensors 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off spamassassin 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off sendmail 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off xinetd based services: chargen-udp: off chargen: off daytime-udp: off daytime: off echo-udp: off echo: off services: off servers: off time-udp: off time: off cups-lpd: off xadmin: off fam: on linuxconf-web: off rsync: off cvs: off I'd hazard a guess and say the above is not the 'tmp' you're referring to, however, now that I've mentioned these files, what are these and can they be deleted? My
 actual /tmp is 125.5mb with 124mb free. I assume that this was the /tmp you were referring to? I'll keep an eye on /tmp over the next few days and see if it grows.The above are the current xinit settings that your system is running. As 1-off is init 1 and alsa is off and so forth. Bad explanation, maybe someone can jump in here and explain better. And /tmp was what I had in mind but other tmp files could be causing a problem, like /home/your usr/.tmp could be acting up. Not real sure but a memory leak might end up tying up all of your ram also. Anyone else have a thought? Slap me if I'm leading down the garden path. : )-- Dennis M. linux user #180842Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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RE: [newbie] FTP Download issues...

2004-08-31 Thread Bill Shirley
Got a firewall on this box?

What does 'iptables -L -n -v' say?

Bill


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Travis Crook
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:08 PM
 To: Mandrake List
 Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP Download issues...
 
 
 On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 15:32, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 August 2004 22:22, Travis Crook wrote:
   On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:31, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 20:10, Travis Crook wrote:
 Hi all,
   
snip
   
 Any ideas on why this is?

 tia
   
That link works for me using konqueror, opera, and mozilla-firefox  so it
clearly has nothing to do wih Linux itself, but something about your
environment. No idea what though :-(
  
   Thanks for checking and verifying that it wasn't a Linux issue!  I will
   have to keep digging!
  
   Thanks!
  
derek
  
  Do you have a proxy server in your network?
  You may need to route your traffic through a proxy.
  
 
 No proxy server here.  
 
  derek
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 www.VisionsBeyond.com
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread Erylon Hines
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote:
| On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:50 pm, M.Schild wrote:
|  charlie wrote:
|  On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote:
|  My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop as
| I cannot recall for certain, but 9.2 worked everything rather well too.
| HTH
|
| Charlie
Ditto, here.  9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need to 
download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the 
update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory).  If you have a Lucent chipped 
winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too.  Truthfully, I don't see 
much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side in 
my office.

e



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Easy one Silver again

2004-08-31 Thread M.Schild
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 07:02 am, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:01 pm, charlie wrote:
 | On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:50 pm, M.Schild wrote:
 |  charlie wrote:
 |  On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:32 pm, M.Schild wrote:
 |  My friend with the Win XP problem on her laptop as
 |
 | I cannot recall for certain, but 9.2 worked everything rather well too.
 | HTH
 |
 | Charlie

 Ditto, here.  9.1 worked well and 9.2 is problem free (except for the need
 to download the kernel-source, which is 40+ megs and the need to get the
 update-db bugfixes--absolutely mandatory).  If you have a Lucent chipped
 winmodem that will work with the 2.4 kernel, too.  Truthfully, I don't see
 much difference between 9.1 and 9.2, and I have both systems side-by-side
 in my office.


If my friend is willing to try 9.1, where do I find the kernel-source and the 
updates?
Maryse


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Re: [newbie] Postcard

2004-08-31 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 2:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Best wishes,

  your friend.

Ok, so, fess up, who clicked the .pif?

Time for the truth to be told, and time to run Mdk full time, the easy way is 
to login in a root. go to your windows partition and fire off, rm -Rf *.

That is a great virus prevention method, for the time being.

Rob
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Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days

2004-08-31 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 21:25, Chris wrote:
 This an odd question and there may not be a valid answer, but here goes.  
 About every 10days the system locks up for seemingly unrelated reasons.  
 For instance, last time it happened it locked up while one of the 
 X-Screensavers was running.  I noted which one was on the screen at the 
 time and disabled it.  I've since only enabled two of the screensavers, 
 Nose Guy and Phosper.  Last night I installed FSV just to see how it 
 looked, install went fine and it ran great, tonight I brought it up, went 
 to open a directory and the system locked up tighter than a drum, uptime 
 was at about 10days, 20+ hrs.  Last time the lockup came at about the same 
 amount of uptime.  This is with MDK 9.0.  Althought I've gone 30+ days 
 previously before I had to hit the reset due to a lockup and if I remember 
 that was due to a game that the system just didn't like.  Any ideas on what 
 could be the problem?

Install lm-sensors and start monitoring your motherboard and cpu
temperatures to eliminate that as a possibility.  Sometimes a system fan
will get clogged with dust and the cpu temp will climb to borderline
levels; this is especially true with AMD cpus, which are notorious for
maintaining deceptively respectable behavior right up until they flake
out.

I have also seen AMD's that are overclocked pass Prime95 tests
perfectly, but still lock up after a few days.  This probably isn't your
case but high case or cpu temperatures can cause the same thing to
happen.

I would say that you could have a program running that has a memory
leak, but it sounds like you've reinstalled and had the same symptoms
across multiple installs.  This would pretty much eliminate the memory
leak possibility.

If you want to try to narrow it down to hardware a little better, what
you can do is run the box at runlevel 3 for 11+ days and see if it locks
up without a gui running.  That would give is a little more information.

It also wouldn't hurt for you to download the sysrescuecd and run some
hardware checks and a test of the memory:

http://www.sysresccd.org/download.en.php

Regardless of how you feel about your hardware or your confidence level
you should still follow troubleshooting procedure and eliminate memory
and cpu as possibilities.

LX



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