Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tuesday 14 Sep 2004 4:34 am, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:05:41 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: Joe: Kinda makes you want to go out and buy a copy of Suse, doesn't it? Resist the urge. Tried SUSE didn't work near as good as mandrake Shite, it doesn't even come with DeCSS, so you can't play/rip DVD's. What a bunch of wankers. If I *was* going to switch it would definitely be to Debian or to a Debian-based distro like Libranet or Xandros, those that, like Mandrake, aim at pleasing the user, not some draconian and corrupt legislators who came up with the DMCA. Probably something to do with where your head office is based. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:05:41 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: Joe: Kinda makes you want to go out and buy a copy of Suse, doesn't it? Resist the urge. Tried SUSE didn't work near as good as mandrake Shite, it doesn't even come with DeCSS, so you can't play/rip DVD's. What a bunch of wankers. If I *was* going to switch it would definitely be to Debian or to a Debian-based distro like Libranet or Xandros, those that, like Mandrake, aim at pleasing the user, not some draconian and corrupt legislators who came up with the DMCA. I think in some ways Debian has it all over Mandrake (and SUSE and REDHAT).. As an example, I can load Debian Woody on a machine, (woody is a couple of years old) And then use sources like backports.org to load the newest packages I need on that old linux. The result is an extremely stable platform that works exactly as you need it to, without having to upgrade the machine at least every year, or compiling stuff from scratch each time a new version comes out. Mandrake can't do that, because they make their money off selling memberships and the distro itself, so they need to create regular releases. Its sad, because I love the mandrake layout, but I've slowly been changing all the servers I am in charge of over to Debian from mandrake. -- rgds Franki http://htmlfixit.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 22:05, aron Smith wrote: On Monday 13 September 2004 04:18 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 13 September 2004 04:14 pm, JoeHill wrote: The next time someone tries to come at you with the old 'well, Microsoft has helped the economy by creating jobs and expanding IT' crap, you can throw a number back in their face: $60 Billion. That's how much MS has sucked out of the IT industry, sitting on it's hoard like a Great Worm: http://tinyurl.com/5ford Best part: A Microsoft representative was not immediately available for comment. Joe: Kinda makes you want to go out and buy a copy of Suse, doesn't it? Resist the urge. Tried SUSE didn't work near as good as mandrake Not surprising. And exactly what I would expect. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 21:21, Chris wrote: Found this little app in my Freshmeat daily newsletter. Seems to check much more than chkrootkit. That being the case, you or someone else should go to Mandrakeclub and propose this program as an rpm for packaging by the contributors in the rpm voting section. As far as I know, chkrootkit has no competition except for this applet. If this applet is better maybe it could replace chkrootkit. License: GNU General Public License (GPL) URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/rkhunter/ LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 23:34, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:05:41 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: Joe: Kinda makes you want to go out and buy a copy of Suse, doesn't it? Resist the urge. Tried SUSE didn't work near as good as mandrake Shite, it doesn't even come with DeCSS, so you can't play/rip DVD's. What a bunch of wankers. If I *was* going to switch it would definitely be to Debian or to a Debian-based distro like Libranet or Xandros, those that, like Mandrake, aim at pleasing the user, not some draconian and corrupt legislators who came up with the DMCA. I havent' really seen any huge advantage in Debian except in gathering together a group of self interested narcissistic users that think they're better than everyone else. That's when compared to Mandrake. My personal take on Linux is that you handle the installation problems first, make them as foolproof as possible, handle as much hardware as possible, then add the user gui interfaces for the less technically capable, and then after all that is said and done, the user still has the opportunity to become a more technical user if they like. The CLI and other deeper features of Linux will always be there for technical users who want to delve into deeper layers of sophistication. This propaganda that there are more technical versions of linux out there is a bunch of tripe. There are not any more technical versions available, only versions that are harder to use and require more expertise. The technical aspects of all Linux versions are essentially the same; it is only the ease of installation and hardware detection that is better or worse. I tend to think that other distros advertise themselves as technical just for the reason that they don't allocate the developer resources to the installation and hardware configuration challenges to the degree that Mandrake does. Mandrake just adds a layer, and it doesn't remove any layers. It's an elitist cop out. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
Mandrake can't do that, because they make their money off selling memberships and the distro itself, so they need to create regular releases. How does Debian make their money? maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:39:25 +0200 M.Schild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does Debian make their money? maryse Debian is not a company and they don't have the goal to make money. Take a look at http://www.debian.org and their social contract. /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 09:35, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:52:26 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: You can argue with Lyvim's point of view, but only if you like being wrong. So, are you taking over Lyvim's arrogant side now? G I don't think anyone is arguing with his point of view anyhow, *he's* arguing against a point *that no one made*, at least in this thread. It's called an observation. By definition that cannot be called an argument; and as I already pointed out my response should have been taken as adjunct and not comparative. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux connecting to a ms sql server
Hey en php.net encontre info que te sera de gran ayuda... http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mssql.php El mar, 14-09-2004 a las 02:24, Avi Schwartz escribi: Jeb Barger wrote: Ok, I was working on this most of the day today, and there has got to be a better way. I am converting a webapp to Mandrake 10 using php, however, it still needs to connect to the microsoft sql server. Is there an easy way to do this? Articles I have read, suggest using a piece that converts the odbc connection to xml, and using php to connect that way. I am new to linux, and I know there has to be a better way. Any suggestions? It all depends whether MDK built PHP with freetds. If it was, when you should be able to access SQL Server directly from PHP like any other database. If not, then you will have to compile PHP yourself. Check http://www.freetds.org/ for more information. BTW, you have set reply-to in your mailer which screws up replies to the list. Please remove it from you kmail settings. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
How does Debian make their money? maryse They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... Fine with me...as long as they stay in Canada ;-) Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:52:26 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: You can argue with Lyvim's point of view, but only if you like being wrong. So, are you taking over Lyvim's arrogant side now? G I don't think anyone is arguing with his point of view anyhow, *he's* arguing against a point *that no one made*, at least in this thread. What it is with you Joe? Are you determined to piss somebody off today? Did you wake up and decide that this was a good day to annoy and insult someone again? Don't disguise your insult by making it sound like you're kidding. The G notation will only allow you to get away with things to a certain extent. I was simply agreeing with Lyvim, who's opinions I happen to respect. Virtually everything he says is right on target IMNSHO. And I wasn't replying to you in particular but was replying to the whole list. Why would you feel that you need to reply to my one comment and insult Lyvim at the same time, while assuming that Lyvim or I were arguing any points at all with anyone at all? He was merely offering his point of view. I was agreeing with him and with the fact that it would be difficult to refute his opinion. That's it. Move on. Get over it. You know, for an old fart you can be pretty grumpy sometimes. You're always trying to pick a fight with someone, and you seem to think it's appreciated. It's like having a house guest that tries to take over the household, only you try to do it with your opinions and when that fails you insult people. Here's a news flash for ya Joe. It's doesn't make you a better person when you put others down, it makes you less than them, BECAUSE you put them down. Perhaps you should forward a list to us outlining what things you'd like to defend, comment or argue about and we'll just avoid those items from now on, OK? It'll make life a lot simpler for all of us. Or maybe we can just start a new Joe mailing list instead of an Off-Topic list. Then anyone who wants to hear your insults and condescending assumptions would be able to go there to get their daily dose of Joe. While I'm at it, give us a break on the List Nazi stuff, OK? Netiquette is intended to be a guideline and most people will comply or will be told by others about what they should or shouldn't do on the list. More often than not, you seem to come across as rude or obnoxious about it, and that will send people off to other lists or distros. More and more, we're seeing newbies show up who have never even been on a list before, and aren't even aware that there are considerations to make when dealing with this list, but a suggestion to help them set up their emails client is always better than a link and a terse message. Work on those People Skills will ya? Give it a rest, Dude. Jeez! Who pissed in your Corn Flakes this morning? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 10:30, Lanman wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 09:03, Lanman wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor Wait a sec! We've been getting hosed on our doughnuts and bacon? When did this happen? Why didn't someone send me a memo on this? GRRR! This is much more disastrous than anything else that Stephen has ever said before! lmao Where are these Debian people? I say that all Canadians should rise up in revolt and fight back! At least they didn't try to steal our toques! Then we'd have to get really pissed! Memo to all Canadians - Let's meet at Tim Horton's to plan a strategy. I'm buying! LOL! Can an American come to act as sternographer? :) LX You're always welcome here Lyvim. I'll even supply the pen and paper. Thanks my friend. :) LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 04:09, frankieh wrote: I think in some ways Debian has it all over Mandrake (and SUSE and REDHAT).. As an example, I can load Debian Woody on a machine, (woody is a couple of years old) And then use sources like backports.org to load the newest packages I need on that old linux. The result is an extremely stable platform that works exactly as you need it to, without having to upgrade the machine at least every year, or compiling stuff from scratch each time a new version comes out. Mandrake can't do that, because they make their money off selling memberships and the distro itself, so they need to create regular releases. Its sad, because I love the mandrake layout, but I've slowly been changing all the servers I am in charge of over to Debian from mandrake. That's the first good reason I've heard to use Debian. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 05:09 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 21:56, Anders Lind wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:39:25 +0200 M.Schild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does Debian make their money? maryse Debian is not a company and they don't have the goal to make money. Take a look at http://www.debian.org and their social contract. /Anders So they're socialists; communists. Ok...I get the picture after all these years now... No think of them as an advocacy group -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Daddy, Daddy, make Santa Claus go away! I can't, son; he's grown too powerful. HO HO HO! -- Duck's Breath Mystery Theatre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 04:49 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 21:39, M.Schild wrote: Mandrake can't do that, because they make their money off selling memberships and the distro itself, so they need to create regular releases. How does Debian make their money? maryse They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... Where can I sign up :-D -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Men who cherish for women the highest respect are seldom popular with them. -- Joseph Addison Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:09:02 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So they're socialists; communists. Ok...I get the picture after all these years now... Not really, freedom has nothing to do with socialism...anyway...I would choose Mandrake for its simplicity anyway...but then FreeBSD has my complete vote over all /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:56:46 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: whack a whole bunch of typical Lanman bullshit ...aand once again: *plonk* Oh well, it was nice while it lasted, but bozos are bozos I guess. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 13:15:13 up 41 days, 13:01, 4 users, load average: 0.17, 0.11, 0.03 +++ Wars such as those which have occurred in Iraq only allow hatred, violence and terror to proliferate. -- Spain's prime minister-elect, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Trouble installing 10.1
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 14:11:24 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: down loaded 10.1 RC2 but caint get it to install I get the message Kernal panic No INIT found Hmm. Mayba a corrupt burn? Check out the cooker list. I'm behind on my email reading of late, but managed to get RC1 up and running a few weeks ago - and over the weekend I bittorented RC2 and the md5sums match and etc. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:45:39 +0200 Vincent Voois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Packard Bell AKA Packard Hell, there is not any harder pain in the ass you can mention than Packard Bell. It's even harder to install Linux on it. Long time ago, I had one of those things. 386sx it was, purchased from Montgomery Wards. I did manage to install linux but that was the early days and I didn't have much in the way of modern hardware -- I needed to get a real monitor and a better video card to run X at anywhere near acceptable levels. It otherwise worked fine even in 4 megs of RAM - this was back in the SLS days :). Of course, even with text terminals and 4 megs of ram (later upgraded to 8 megs -- woohoo) it just kicked a$$ and ran rings around Windows (3.1) and Desqview. For instance, I couldn't run my HST modem at high speed in 3.1 but could in Linux :). On the downside, there were some bad design issues with the thing (f.e., uarts soldered on the motherboard) and early on developed a problem with the floppies. Since it was still under warranty, I opted for factory service, which turned out to be a three month wait. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On September 14, 2004 07:03, Lanman wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor Wait a sec! We've been getting hosed on our doughnuts and bacon? When did this happen? Why didn't someone send me a memo on this? GRRR! This is much more disastrous than anything else that Stephen has ever said before! Where are these Debian people? I say that all Canadians should rise up in revolt and fight back! At least they didn't try to steal our toques! Then we'd have to get really pissed! Memo to all Canadians - Let's meet at Tim Horton's to plan a strategy. I'm buying! LOL! Yeah, we need our doughnuts and bacon. It gets cold up here, and a good layer of blubber helps keep us warm! -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Casio QV3500 digital camera
Seems as though it might have been supermount after all, after mounting it manually by typing mount -t auto /dev/sda /mnt/removable it works at normal speed now. David David Trethewey wrote: Supermount didn't make any difference, but an extract from syslog shows there to be errors. Sep 12 12:40:13 albert kernel: SCSI error : 0 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Sep 12 12:40:13 albert kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 615 Sep 12 12:40:13 albert kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 583 Sep 12 12:40:13 albert kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 Sep 12 12:41:11 albert kernel: SCSI error : 0 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Sep 12 12:41:11 albert kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 615 Sep 12 12:41:11 albert kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 583 Sep 12 12:41:11 albert kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 Sep 12 12:42:00 albert kernel: SCSI error : 0 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Sep 12 12:42:00 albert kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 615 Sep 12 12:42:00 albert kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 583 Sep 12 12:42:00 albert kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 Sep 12 12:42:58 albert kernel: SCSI error : 0 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Sep 12 12:42:58 albert kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 615 Sep 12 12:42:58 albert kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 583 Sep 12 12:42:58 albert kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 Sep 12 12:43:39 albert gconfd (root-3376): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Sep 12 12:43:40 albert gconfd (root-3376): Exiting Sep 12 12:43:46 albert kernel: SCSI error : 0 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Sep 12 12:43:46 albert kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 615 Sep 12 12:43:46 albert kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 583 Sep 12 12:43:46 albert kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 Sep 12 12:44:44 albert kernel: SCSI error : 0 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Sep 12 12:44:44 albert kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 615 Sep 12 12:44:44 albert kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 583 Sep 12 12:44:44 albert kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 Len Lawrence wrote: On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:32:38 +0100 David Trethewey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Voois wrote: David Trethewey wrote: I have a Casio Qv-3500 digital camera. Using Mandrake Linux 10.0, I have tried to download photos from it (by copying the files using the command line). It recognises it as a removable drive. It will copy the files, but very very slowly. Anyone had a similar problem? A little add-on info to get David better on tracks: Casio Qv 3500 copies the file through a serial com-port connection probably right? (I had one myself in the past) In the back of my head i recall a tty default speed-setting upon your comports are being automaticly set to 9600 baud or some sort it had had to be changed somewhere in a config file... It can operate using serial ports, but I was using usb at this time. David This sounds familiar. My Fuji Finepix acted the same way recently under 9.2, not when first installed, but later after other USB mass storage devices had been mounted and unmounted, pen drives and the like. They also ran slowly and the desktop suffered from a plethora of problems which appeared to be totally unrelated. Some odd messages appeared in some of the system logs (don't remember which) indicating that there was trouble with supermount. Ah ha I said, let's disable that. Disabled supermount and ALL those problems vanished, and I had been at the point of reinstalling the whole shebang. That may not be your problem, but it would be worth looking at if you use supermount. I hope you find a solution. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Your random fortune: The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is the most likely to be correct. -- William of Occam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote: ... urpmi rkhunter I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter gives me no package named rkhunter. I tried a search for rk and one for hunt too, in case the spelling was slightly off, but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Nvidia drivers
I think I have messed up my configuration somehow. I have a Nvidia Geforce2 integrated soundcard, using nvaudio drivers. I have no sound now, and KDE crashes on startup. I'm not really sure why it stopped working. -- Your random fortune: Torque is cheap. # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section Files # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection Section ServerFlags #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching) EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver Keyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout gb Option XkbOptions EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 VendorName Generic ModelName 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz HorizSync 31.5-64.3 VertRefresh 50-70 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName NVidia BoardName NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS Option IgnoreEDID 1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device device1 Monitor monitor1 DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 15 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer Screen screen1 EndSection alias autofs autofs4 probeall usb-interface usb-ohci alias eth0 forcedeth alias sound-slot-0 nvaudio # alias eth1 nvnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On September 14, 2004 07:03, Lanman wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor Wait a sec! We've been getting hosed on our doughnuts and bacon? When did this happen? Why didn't someone send me a memo on this? GRRR! This is much more disastrous than anything else that Stephen has ever said before! Where are these Debian people? I say that all Canadians should rise up in revolt and fight back! At least they didn't try to steal our toques! Then we'd have to get really pissed! Memo to all Canadians - Let's meet at Tim Horton's to plan a strategy. I'm buying! LOL! Yeah, we need our doughnuts and bacon. It gets cold up here, and a good layer of blubber helps keep us warm! Hey Ron! Where you at? I see that you're on Shaw Cable, but which part of the country? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Ya don't know ehat you got til its gone
I had ML 9.0 running dual boot with XP on a Mach speed mobo P4 2.5 ghz cpu and a 90 GB IBM hitachi HDD. All was well and good. I just went to wipe out the whole ML installation installation and replace it with ML 10.0.2 and it hangs on formatting HDE7. I tried a ML 10.0 CD and it uung at the same point again I next tried the same thing with ML 9.0 and all went well. Anyone have any idea what the problem could be. TIA Marc -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer using Mandrake Linux 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ya don't know ehat you got til its gone
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:23, Marc wrote: I had ML 9.0 running dual boot with XP on a Mach speed mobo P4 2.5 ghz cpu and a 90 GB IBM hitachi HDD. All was well and good. I just went to wipe out the whole ML installation installation and replace it with ML 10.0.2 and it hangs on formatting HDE7. I tried a ML 10.0 CD and it uung at the same point again I next tried the same thing with ML 9.0 and all went well. Anyone have any idea what the problem could be. TIA Marc List your hardware, be descriptive, and put all that plus your problem in a bugzilla report. I don't know if you are running MDK10 or the newer rawer 10.1 community, but if you are trying to load MDK10 I wouldn't bother. Your time would be better served loading 10.1 community and submitting bug reports on installation problems BEFORE the release goes official. From what I understand, RC2 and RC3 steps have been skipped, and the RC1 release has been labeled the community release, which is the last release before official. So you don't have alot of time; none of us do really, to whip this last release into shape for our hardware. The place to enter bugs is here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/enter_bug.cgi The link for stable versions is there also. Like I said tho I wouldn't waste any time with MDK10, you have alot more leverage right now with MDK Community. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:47 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. It might still. I don't think it's going to require a lot of extras, somehow. I mean it's not one of those shoot-em-up games that requires esoteric hardware. It might work in vmware too. But as there is no OSS or TI didn't (yet) port Derive, isn't there something that does run on Linux that is comparable? mupad, macsyma, and the like spring to mind. I'm not qualified (no maths degree) enough to really judge the capabilities and what Derive will do that OSS replacements wouldn't, however. (mupad I think is still OSS or free for personal use; macsyma is in contrib last time I looked. The command line version is lisp-based and clunky as hell, but the X11 version is a little more polished.) Kaj Haulrich. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mozilla firefox start new speadFirefox initiative.
http://htmlfixit.com/index.php?p=164 Very cool, the word is getting out there, even to windoze newbies. -- rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:40, David E. Fox wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:47 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win4Linux runs Win98 only, not XP. Crossover doesn't list other applications then the most common, such as Office. Derive is a very special beast. It might still. I don't think it's going to require a lot of extras, somehow. I mean it's not one of those shoot-em-up games that requires esoteric hardware. It might work in vmware too. But as there is no OSS or TI didn't (yet) port Derive, isn't there something that does run on Linux that is comparable? mupad, macsyma, and the like spring to mind. I'm not qualified (no maths degree) enough to really judge the capabilities and what Derive will do that OSS replacements wouldn't, however. (mupad I think is still OSS or free for personal use; macsyma is in contrib last time I looked. The command line version is lisp-based and clunky as hell, but the X11 version is a little more polished.) Kaj Haulrich. I think his daughter is required to have Derive. :( LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia drivers
On Tuesday 14 Sep 2004 22:06, David Trethewey wrote: I think I have messed up my configuration somehow. I have a Nvidia Geforce2 integrated soundcard, using nvaudio drivers. I have no sound now, and KDE crashes on startup. I'm not really sure why it stopped working. If your kdm login manager works and you see the Nvidia splash screen when X starts then there is nothing wrong with your graphics drivers. Try deleting your ~/.kde folder to solve your KDE problem (you will lose all your KDE configuration) If that does not fix it delete any file in your home starting with .ICE authority or .DCOPserver (new ones will be created on next login) As for your sound. In the 2.6 kernel the driver file is modprobe.conf not modules.conf which is the file for the 2.4 kernel. You might like to refer to the suggested configuration for your sound card at www.alsa-project.org derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mozilla fixed fonts problem
I use Mozilla mail heavily. (Mozilla 1.3) I normally use Inbox opened fully so that I can scan the incoming files quickly. A couple days ago, that screen seemed to have reduced the type font size so that it is now difficult to read. As a check, I counted the number of lines shown, and found that it is now 32 lines rather than the 31 it has had previously. I have tried every thing I can think of to change this, but no success. Any suggestion will be much appreciated. My eyes are hurting. Bob -- -- Bob Read // Registered Linux user #287118 http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 12:35 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote: ... urpmi rkhunter I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter gives me no package named rkhunter. I tried a search for rk and one for hunt too, in case the spelling was slightly off, but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up. Mea culpa. Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it would be available for all Mandrake versions. I didn't check. Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm It should work on any Mandrake version. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 08:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Mea culpa. Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it would be available for all Mandrake versions. I didn't check. Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/med ia/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm It should work on any Mandrake version. Or you could go here: ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/rpms/rkhunter-1.1.8-1.noarch.rpm which is 1.1.8. I am running 10.0 CE but updated from Community so it should be just a little behind cooker. As long as you are interested, you might want to get the latest version. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On August 9th, 2004, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took a major step toward mandating the creation and implementation of new Internet Protocol standards to make all Internet communications less safe and less secure. What is even worse, the FCC's ruling will force ISP's and others to pay what may amount to billions of dollars to ensure that IP traffic remains insecure. Link: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/261 The police state cometh... Damned Socialists. Oh, wait... ;-) -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 20:41:06 up 41 days, 20:27, 7 users, load average: 1.79, 1.15, 0.84 +++ Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. -- Amschel Mayer Rothschild, banker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 07:34 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 14 September 2004 08:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Mea culpa. Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it would be available for all Mandrake versions. I didn't check. Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586 /med ia/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm It should work on any Mandrake version. Or you could go here: ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/rpms/rkhunter-1.1.8-1.noarch.rpm which is 1.1.8. I am running 10.0 CE but updated from Community so it should be just a little behind cooker. As long as you are interested, you might want to get the latest version. The source is super easy to install, it has its own install script, takes about two minutes to run through the complete installation. By the way, I was going to start another thread but since we're on the subject of root killer, it reports that I'm in promiscuous mode, what the hell is that and how do I get out of it? I've googled and googled/linux and I've never really found a good answer. I'm not running any servers, that I'm aware of. Thanks for any help -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 7:42pm up 7 days, 21 min, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.14, 0.07 Brahma said: Well, after hearing ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser. But an intelligent man needs only two thousand five hundred. -- The Mahabharata Live - From Virgin Radio UK The Eagles - One of these nights Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ya don't know ehat you got til its gone
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 06:36 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:23, Marc wrote: I had ML 9.0 running dual boot with XP on a Mach speed mobo P4 2.5 ghz cpu and a 90 GB IBM hitachi HDD. All was well and good. I just went to wipe out the whole ML installation installation and replace it with ML 10.0.2 and it hangs on formatting HDE7. I tried a ML 10.0 CD and it uung at the same point again I next tried the same thing with ML 9.0 and all went well. Anyone have any idea what the problem could be. Try with one of the alternate installaiton kernels. Maybe the install kernel is having trouble with your chipset IDE controller and needs something more vanilla and safer. Hit F1 at the splash and specify one of the alternate kernels, I think they are listed. TIA Marc List your hardware, be descriptive, and put all that plus your problem in a bugzilla report. I don't know if you are running MDK10 or the newer rawer 10.1 community, but if you are trying to load MDK10 I wouldn't bother. Your time would be better served loading 10.1 community and submitting bug reports on installation problems BEFORE the release goes official. From what I understand, RC2 and RC3 steps have been skipped, and the RC1 release has been labeled the community release, which is the last release before official. So you don't have alot of time; none of us do really, to whip this last release into shape for our hardware. The place to enter bugs is here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/enter_bug.cgi The link for stable versions is there also. Like I said tho I wouldn't waste any time with MDK10, you have alot more leverage right now with MDK Community. LX -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 13:17, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 10:56, Lanman wrote: JoeHill wrote: So, are you taking over Lyvim's arrogant side now? G I don't think anyone is arguing with his point of view anyhow, *he's* arguing against a point *that no one made*, at least in this thread. What it is with you Joe? Are you determined to piss somebody off today? Did you wake up and decide that this was a good day to annoy and insult someone again? Don't disguise your insult by making it sound like you're kidding. The G notation will only allow you to get away with things to a certain extent. I was simply agreeing with Lyvim, who's opinions I happen to respect. Virtually everything he says is right on target IMNSHO. And I wasn't replying to you in particular but was replying to the whole list. Why would you feel that you need to reply to my one comment and insult Lyvim at the same time, while assuming that Lyvim or I were arguing any points at all with anyone at all? He was merely offering his point of view. I was agreeing with him and with the fact that it would be difficult to refute his opinion. That's it. Move on. Get over it. You know, for an old fart you can be pretty grumpy sometimes. You're always trying to pick a fight with someone, and you seem to think it's appreciated. It's like having a house guest that tries to take over the household, only you try to do it with your opinions and when that fails you insult people. Here's a news flash for ya Joe. It's doesn't make you a better person when you put others down, it makes you less than them, BECAUSE you put them down. Perhaps you should forward a list to us outlining what things you'd like to defend, comment or argue about and we'll just avoid those items from now on, OK? It'll make life a lot simpler for all of us. Or maybe we can just start a new Joe mailing list instead of an Off-Topic list. Then anyone who wants to hear your insults and condescending assumptions would be able to go there to get their daily dose of Joe. While I'm at it, give us a break on the List Nazi stuff, OK? Netiquette is intended to be a guideline and most people will comply or will be told by others about what they should or shouldn't do on the list. More often than not, you seem to come across as rude or obnoxious about it, and that will send people off to other lists or distros. More and more, we're seeing newbies show up who have never even been on a list before, and aren't even aware that there are considerations to make when dealing with this list, but a suggestion to help them set up their emails client is always better than a link and a terse message. Work on those People Skills will ya? Give it a rest, Dude. Jeez! Who pissed in your Corn Flakes this morning? On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:56:46 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: whack a whole bunch of typical Lanman bullshit ...aand once again: *plonk* Oh well, it was nice while it lasted, but bozos are bozos I guess. Only *you* had the power to crystallize the irony in that statement to the hardness of tungsten steel. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ya don't know ehat you got til its gone
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 21:50, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 14 September 2004 06:36 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:23, Marc wrote: I had ML 9.0 running dual boot with XP on a Mach speed mobo P4 2.5 ghz cpu and a 90 GB IBM hitachi HDD. All was well and good. I just went to wipe out the whole ML installation installation and replace it with ML 10.0.2 and it hangs on formatting HDE7. I tried a ML 10.0 CD and it uung at the same point again I next tried the same thing with ML 9.0 and all went well. Anyone have any idea what the problem could be. Try with one of the alternate installaiton kernels. Maybe the install kernel is having trouble with your chipset IDE controller and needs something more vanilla and safer. Hit F1 at the splash and specify one of the alternate kernels, I think they are listed. Which won't solve the underlying problem mdk10 has with his hardware and also won't get his hardware registered and working with the newer versions of MDK. TIA Marc List your hardware, be descriptive, and put all that plus your problem in a bugzilla report. I don't know if you are running MDK10 or the newer rawer 10.1 community, but if you are trying to load MDK10 I wouldn't bother. Your time would be better served loading 10.1 community and submitting bug reports on installation problems BEFORE the release goes official. From what I understand, RC2 and RC3 steps have been skipped, and the RC1 release has been labeled the community release, which is the last release before official. So you don't have alot of time; none of us do really, to whip this last release into shape for our hardware. The place to enter bugs is here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/enter_bug.cgi The link for stable versions is there also. Like I said tho I wouldn't waste any time with MDK10, you have alot more leverage right now with MDK Community. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 13:17, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 10:56, Lanman wrote: JoeHill wrote: So, are you taking over Lyvim's arrogant side now? G I don't think anyone is arguing with his point of view anyhow, *he's* arguing against a point *that no one made*, at least in this thread. What it is with you Joe? Are you determined to piss somebody off today? Did you wake up and decide that this was a good day to annoy and insult someone again? Don't disguise your insult by making it sound like you're kidding. The "G" notation will only allow you to get away with things to a certain extent. I was simply agreeing with Lyvim, who's opinions I happen to respect. Virtually everything he says is right on target IMNSHO. And I wasn't replying to you in particular but was replying to the whole list. Why would you feel that you need to reply to my one comment and insult Lyvim at the same time, while assuming that Lyvim or I were arguing any points at all with anyone at all? He was merely offering his point of view. I was agreeing with him and with the fact that it would be difficult to refute his opinion. That's it. Move on. Get over it. You know, for an old fart you can be pretty grumpy sometimes. You're always trying to pick a fight with someone, and you seem to think it's appreciated. It's like having a house guest that tries to take over the household, only you try to do it with your opinions and when that fails you insult people. Here's a news flash for ya Joe. It's doesn't make you a better person when you put others down, it makes you less than them, BECAUSE you put them down. Perhaps you should forward a list to us outlining what things you'd like to defend, comment or argue about and we'll just avoid those items from now on, OK? It'll make life a lot simpler for all of us. Or maybe we can just start a new "Joe" mailing list instead of an "Off-Topic" list. Then anyone who wants to hear your insults and condescending assumptions would be able to go there to get their daily dose of "Joe". While I'm at it, give us a break on the List Nazi stuff, OK? Netiquette is intended to be a guideline and most people will comply or will be told by others about what they should or shouldn't do on the list. More often than not, you seem to come across as rude or obnoxious about it, and that will send people off to other lists or distros. More and more, we're seeing newbies show up who have never even been on a list before, and aren't even aware that there are considerations to make when dealing with this list, but a suggestion to help them set up their emails client is always better than a link and a terse message. Work on those "People Skills" will ya? Give it a rest, Dude. Jeez! Who pissed in your Corn Flakes this morning? On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:56:46 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: whack a whole bunch of typical Lanman bullshit ...aand once again: *plonk* Oh well, it was nice while it lasted, but bozos are bozos I guess. Only *you* had the power to crystallize the irony in that statement to the hardness of tungsten steel. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Too Much Reading between The Lines With One Another's Thoughts, Motives, Actions is Bad For Your Health. You guys should all stick to Linux Discussions. I would enjoy that more, and learn something more worthwhile.
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Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 05:45 pm, JoeHill wrote: On August 9th, 2004, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took a major step toward mandating the creation and implementation of new Internet Protocol standards to make all Internet communications less safe and less secure. What is even worse, the FCC's ruling will force ISP's and others to pay what may amount to billions of dollars to ensure that IP traffic remains insecure. Link: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/261 The police state cometh... Damned Socialists. Oh, wait... ;-) No ...Power is the guiding word guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 00:04, aron Smith wrote: No ...Power is the guiding word guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail Charles Edwards' gpg Standard Operating Procedure is looking better and better all the time. If they do manage to usurp the public will on this and institute those measures, which are completely unecessary in my opinion, I wouldn't have a problem encrypting everything, including list mail, just on principle alone. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail That's the problem: What this means is that IP protocols may have to be adjusted, and the future of encryption may also be in doubt. If I'm reading this correctly, adding this extra bit of overhead to TCP/IP will enable both legitimate authorities (due process and all that), *and* the not-so-legitimate the ability to get past things like encryption. I guess the old adage still holds true: if there's something you don't want intercepted, don't send it. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 00:09:36 up 41 days, 23:55, 6 users, load average: 0.64, 0.36, 0.23 +++ It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth... -- Morpheus, in The Matrix, describing Fox News Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 03:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On September 14, 2004 07:03, Lanman wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor Wait a sec! We've been getting hosed on our doughnuts and bacon? When did this happen? Why didn't someone send me a memo on this? GRRR! This is much more disastrous than anything else that Stephen has ever said before! Where are these Debian people? I say that all Canadians should rise up in revolt and fight back! At least they didn't try to steal our toques! Then we'd have to get really pissed! Memo to all Canadians - Let's meet at Tim Horton's to plan a strategy. I'm buying! LOL! Yeah, we need our doughnuts and bacon. It gets cold up here, and a good layer of blubber helps keep us warm! Was that a Freudian slip indicative of your obesity? -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. What kind of love is that? Not to be loved; never to have shown love. -- Commissioner Nancy Hedford, Metamorphosis, stardate 3219.8 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Epson CX3100 multi-function printer, scanner, copier drivers available ?
Does anyone have the Epson CX3100 multi-function printer installed on Mandrake Linux 10.0 ? -- John Zoetebier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 00:16, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail That's the problem: What this means is that IP protocols may have to be adjusted, and the future of encryption may also be in doubt. If I'm reading this correctly, adding this extra bit of overhead to TCP/IP will enable both legitimate authorities (due process and all that), *and* the not-so-legitimate the ability to get past things like encryption. No, if the mail is encrypted before it is sent, then the tcp/ip stack is transmitting encrypted data. Interception modality is then irrelevant. I believe the real goal here is not to intercept data necessarily, but rather to be able to more efficiently target sources. If they are having trouble finding spammers, then they are certainly having trouble with more pertinent things. That still is no reason to put such a system in place. Especially if the law is being bastardized in order to do it. The whole thing stinks. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 09:16 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail That's the problem: What this means is that IP protocols may have to be adjusted, and the future of encryption may also be in doubt. If I'm reading this correctly, adding this extra bit of overhead to TCP/IP will enable both legitimate authorities (due process and all that), *and* the not-so-legitimate the ability to get past things like encryption. I guess the old adage still holds true: if there's something you don't want intercepted, don't send it. With a good encryption algorithm they would have more trouble cracking it than it would be worth to them ..let's face it what we do is not that intresting to anybody. Nuke Bomb Anthrax Biological warfare (that ought to get Carnivore's attention Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 10:10, David T Battler wrote: Too Much Reading between The Lines With One Another's Thoughts, Motives, Actions is Bad For Your Health. You guys should all stick to Linux Discussions. I would enjoy that more, and learn something more worthwhile. Point taken. Now please don't send in html. Second of all your computer's date is off. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 10:45, JoeHill wrote: On August 9th, 2004, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took a major step toward mandating the creation and implementation of new Internet Protocol standards to make all Internet communications less safe and less secure. What is even worse, the FCC's ruling will force ISP's and others to pay what may amount to billions of dollars to ensure that IP traffic remains insecure. Link: http://securityfocus.com/columnists/261 The police state cometh... Damned Socialists. Oh, wait... ;-) ...and Homeland Security will try to hide it from the voters and the public media - so JoePublic won't know it's coming. Now, NOW is a time to tell your American compatriots about the reality of it all. -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. I call them as I see them. If I can't see them, I make them up. -- Biff Barf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
