Re: [newbie] More about file permissions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By clicking onto a file's icon with the mouse's right button and entering 'Properties', it is possible to change at pleasure and in detail all the possible options about permissions: wether the owner, group and others can read, read and write or neither that file or directory. Careful, Romeo. You should only be able to do that for files you own. Any others should need the root password. If they don't you have a very insecure box. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxVH8kFAvMr/nNX8RAvURAKCEbfmz1V4tqJWVzd0DcZ99e+vYOQCfWiH2 uxVl6HLwVqDEyi56Nlh+5mw= =4aKr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 00:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it every post I get, from this list only, is a multipart mime mess. Including my own when they bounce back. All My options are set against the fancy stuff because it so easily can contain a virus. Because Mandrakesoft add the footer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Maybe there is no other convenient way of adding this, but it is a small price to pay for their hosting of our mailing lists. Could you not filter your list traffic first before filtering for the attachments? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxVJ4kFAvMr/nNX8RAuFVAJ9c1uSNbHKPC3bTBfSy7YN8sWnomACbBxZI hmzurHp+x2MSatg9d+25xjI= =G+KM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Tying down to one only email client
Todd Slater wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 02:11:49PM +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote: Hi The following appears to be off topic a little, but with no response from the mozilla forum and it being mandrake I'm trying to get my company to run with, I'm hoping some kind soul here might take some time out to assist. The following is a direct copy of my posting on the other site: I am at present trying to get Mozilla tied down in WinXP to such a state that regardless of which user opens Mozilla1.7.3 - all email is downloaded to one only folder on the computer. At present a user needs to login into their account with a password and has installed into their settings the ability to run Mozilla. This part is OK by me. To access the companies email they need to further enter another password to access the online account and this applies to sending email also. Again this is OK by me as it requires passwords to get there. However, this now means that email being downloaded and sent is stored within the different user's accounts and this is not OK by company policy. The ideal is to have all the email remain together. As this old salt doesn't play with WinXP usually, I have no idea how to achieve the above ideal situation. Anyone care to take me through the mechanics of getting this to work? Further, I would like to know , for future reference, how to do this within a Linux environment also as the staff here is being kind to my suggestions of at least looking at Linux. Any helpful suggestions will be greatly appreciated. First off, are you using IMAP? I second Stephen's recommendation to use it as your users can use any old IMAP-capable reader. Now as to not having to have a user profile on each machine, you can set it up by specifying a network location for your profile, but you have to set it up the first time you start Thunderbird on a new computer on the network. I believe roaming profiles is in the works for Mozilla, so maybe shortly you'll be able to do it conveniently. You might find some help in the mozillazine forums... (don't know if the mozilla forum you refer to is Usenet or online) Todd Thanks for your input Todd and Stephen but before I go off learning things IMAP maybe I ought to ensure that I have requested the correct info in the first place. Please understand that this exercise involves a stand alone computer, the only one connected to the Internet, set this way to ensure no online corruption of the companies LAN system. Down the track I intent to VPN with my home computer running Mandrake10 for dwgs I do at home using this same stand alone company computer. Hence my insistence that my boss keep abreast of things I actually do with this computer he has entrusted me with. [ I got it brand new for $700NZ and he could only manage $2300NZ with his contacts, so I get to be blamed if anything goes wrong. Such is the life of senior employees these days.] It is at present defaulted to WinXP with Mandrake installed on a second partition ready to rock and roll once I have suitably impressed the boss enough. Well, lets be fair, ' once the linux community ' has impressed the boss enough! If what I am trying to achieve is not available with Mozilla/WinXP or Mandrake at present then maybe another way is to: 1) Ensure all user accounts have the ability to download email - turned off - within preferences. 2) Somehow lock this so that it cannot be changed. ( When it becomes Mandrake's turn to do this then I think I can do this somehow with altering the permissions upon the relevant file within user profiles. Hope so, this is still new to me but I believe achievable.) Anyway, I'm off to see about IMAP regardless. If anyone can assist further I'd be greatly appreciative. TIA -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Output of 'ls -l ...'
On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 9:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I do ,e.g., $ ls -l / , I get: total 52 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 18 13:44 bin/ what about the numbers that appears in the second and in the fifth column? What's their meaning? As care free said, the second is the number of links, the fifth is the size. For normal files the number of links is 1, unless you have a hard link (ln without the -s) to that file. For directories there are hard links created for you: the access point of the directory: mnt in / the .. directory within each subdirectory: .. in /mnt/crdom the . directory in the directory itself: . in /mnt So for directories that have no further hard links and are not active mount points, the second field should be two more than the number of directories it contains. The fifth field is the file size; directories are just files and they have a size like any other file. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] How to make changes to the current security level?
Hi. I set a security level 4, with # msec 4 . After that, a normal user can't reboot the system any more with '$ reboot', and I wanted to restore this possibility. In 'man msec' it is said: If you want to make changes to the current level, use [...] /etc/security/msec/level.local to override the rules (see mseclib(3) for details [...]). Then I edited the file /etc/security/msec/level.local (that was empty) and added the line: allow_reboot yes , using the same syntax as /usr/share/msec/level.4, but it didn't work; I also tried to modify the file /usr/share/msec/level.4 itself putting yes instead of no after allow_reboot, but nothing. Any thought? Thanks, Rodolfo Regala e regalati Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis, navighi veloce e scarichi a 1.2 Mega. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Editing default applications
I downloaded BitTornado which required me to delete BitTorrent. After not being able to get BitTornado going I unistalled it and reinstalled the official BitTorrent client. But now, when I click on the *.torrent seed to download, I am still presented with BitTornado as my default application. Even worse, when I paste in the btdownload.py into the other application choice - nothing happens. How do I dump BitTornado as the default application and get BitTorrent back as my default application to download *.torrent files? Thanks in Advance, -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE, mdk10.0, www.eslrahc.com
For as much as I love Charles Edwards RPM archive, I still have preferred to use the graphical installers for XFCE that are available here: http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=42 I always found compiling against GTK on Mandrake is a pain in the ass, it feels like I have always everything installed, but it is never found as it is supposed to beotherwise I do agree with you, compiling is always good I tried urpmi xfce, said no packages containing xfce existed. Of course I would prefer to use urpmi since I consider myself complete ignorant to the world of handlig packages myself. In the website http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=42 stephen k. gave me there are to types, with or without gtk. The install guide with gtk didn't help me much. No folder containing gtk refered to in the guide were to find on my mdk10.0 system. What advances does xfce with gtk give me? Regards Vegard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MySQL WOn't Start
Dears, I can't run MySql it says ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) Can you help Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] attachments
If that's the case I won't worry about it. It sounds logical. I was deleting all the messes for safety. On 19 Dec 2004 at 10:05, Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 00:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it every post I get, from this list only, is a multipart mime mess. Including my own when they bounce back. All My options are set against the fancy stuff because it so easily can contain a virus. Because Mandrakesoft add the footer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Maybe there is no other convenient way of adding this, but it is a small price to pay for their hosting of our mailing lists. Could you not filter your list traffic first before filtering for the attachments? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxVJ4kFAvMr/nNX8RAuFVAJ9c1uSNbHKPC3bTBfSy7YN8sWnomACbBxZI hmzurHp+x2MSatg9d+25xjI= =G+KM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MySQL WOn't Start
Op Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:30:21 +0300 schreef EE: Dears, I can't run MySql it says ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) Does the file /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock exist? If not, then probably the MySQL daemon is not running. Paul -- The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience. -Harper Lee http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.php Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Editing default applications
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 12:51, Kenneth wrote: I downloaded BitTornado which required me to delete BitTorrent. After not being able to get BitTornado going I unistalled it and reinstalled the official BitTorrent client. But now, when I click on the *.torrent seed to download, I am still presented with BitTornado as my default application. Even worse, when I paste in the btdownload.py into the other application choice - nothing happens. How do I dump BitTornado as the default application and get BitTorrent back as my default application to download *.torrent files? Thanks in Advance, Check kcontrol Components File Associations. Make sure that BitTorrent is at the top of the list of possible apps. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxX+jkFAvMr/nNX8RAhAxAJ94BMSo2NTVnPFBXeilaDMRSbxwTgCeKXBa ehn1cHCLUfy3S5nVJcAorFs= =Fuy0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Where to find alternatives *Boot Themes* for Mdk10.1?
And not *splash themes* (I have plenty) ;-) Please kindly advice. Thanks so much for your time. -- Regards, Edward WIJAYA Singapore Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CPAN and Webmin
On Saturday 18 December 2004 10:31 pm, Chris wrote: Has anyone experienced any problems with CPAN via Webmin. I can install modules just fine, if I know the module name, however trying to update my module list nets nothing. In reply to my own message, I found the problem. I had forgot I'd turned off javascript in Mozilla, once turned back on for cookies the module list was updated just fine. -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 8:29am up 20 days, 17:47, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.29, 0.18 One learns to itch where one can scratch. -- Ernest Bramah Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where to find alternatives *Boot Themes* for Mdk10.1?
Edward Wijaya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: And not *splash themes* (I have plenty) ;-) Please kindly advice. Thanks so much for your time. -- Regards, Edward WIJAYA Singapore Edward, please don't hijack threads, this one alone has been hijacked 3 times and twice by you. Please take a look at the wiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette for the reasons why. As to your question, what do you mean by Boot Themes ? If you don't mean splash themes ? do you mean supplied by a rpm from urpmi ? # urpmq --list |grep -i themes bootsplash-themes cursor_themes drakconf-themes drakconf-themes ethemes gdm-themes gkrellm-themes gnome-themes gnome-themes-extras gtk-themes matchbox-themes-extra mythtv-themes phpwiki1.3-themes sawfish-themes waimea-themes wmaker-themes xfce-themes xfwm-themes or even # urpmq --list |grep -i boot bootloader-utils bootloader-utils bootparamd bootsplash bootsplash-plf bootsplash-themes bootsplashchooser etherboot kernel-BOOT-2.4.27.0.pre2.1mdk kernel-BOOT-2.6.8.1.12mdk mkbootdisk pxe-bootstraps Have you tried Google for info ? Sorry if I misunderstood what you are requesting. -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] The effect of 'chgrp' is not pemanent?
Hi. I've noticed that, strangely, the effect of the command 'chgrp' is not permanent: I did # chgrp rodolfo /* and then # ls -l / and got the following output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# ls -l / total 52 drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:05 bin/ drwxr-x--x 3 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 boot/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root rodolfo 3800 Dec 19 15:19 dev/ drwxr-x--x 71 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 etc/ drwxr-x--x 4 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 18:53 home/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:31 initrd/ drwxr-x--x 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:13 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 7 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 11:48 mnt/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Jan 5 2004 opt/ dr-xr-xr-x 78 root rodolfo0 Dec 19 15:19 proc/ drwx-- 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:08 root/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 sbin/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root rodolfo0 Dec 19 15:19 sys/ drwxrwx-wt 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:20 tmp/ drwxr-x--x 12 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:07 usr/ drwxr-x--x 17 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 var/ ; then I rebooted the system, did '# ls -l /' again and this time the output was changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# ls -l / total 52 drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:05 bin/ drwxr-x--x 3 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 boot/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root3800 Dec 19 15:19 dev/ drwxr-x--x 71 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 etc/ drwxr-x--x 4 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 18:53 home/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:31 initrd/ drwxr-x--x 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:13 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 7 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 11:48 mnt/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Jan 5 2004 opt/ dr-xr-xr-x 79 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 proc/ drwx-- 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:08 root/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 sbin/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 sys/ drwxrwx-wt 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:20 tmp/ drwxr-x--x 12 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:07 usr/ drwxr-x--x 17 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 var/ , and even other changes occured later. How come? And how to make chgrp's effect not change until I want to? Thanks, Rodolfo Regala e regalati Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis, navighi veloce e scarichi a 1.2 Mega. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The effect of 'chgrp' is not pemanent?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:39:15PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've noticed that, strangely, the effect of the command 'chgrp' is not permanent: I did # chgrp rodolfo /* and then # ls -l / and got the following output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# ls -l / total 52 drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:05 bin/ drwxr-x--x 3 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 boot/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root rodolfo 3800 Dec 19 15:19 dev/ drwxr-x--x 71 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 etc/ drwxr-x--x 4 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 18:53 home/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:31 initrd/ drwxr-x--x 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:13 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 7 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 11:48 mnt/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Jan 5 2004 opt/ dr-xr-xr-x 78 root rodolfo0 Dec 19 15:19 proc/ drwx-- 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:08 root/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 sbin/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root rodolfo0 Dec 19 15:19 sys/ drwxrwx-wt 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:20 tmp/ drwxr-x--x 12 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:07 usr/ drwxr-x--x 17 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 var/ ; then I rebooted the system, did '# ls -l /' again and this time the output was changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# ls -l / total 52 drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:05 bin/ drwxr-x--x 3 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 boot/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root3800 Dec 19 15:19 dev/ drwxr-x--x 71 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 etc/ drwxr-x--x 4 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 18:53 home/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:31 initrd/ drwxr-x--x 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:13 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 7 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 11:48 mnt/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Jan 5 2004 opt/ dr-xr-xr-x 79 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 proc/ drwx-- 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:08 root/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 sbin/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 sys/ drwxrwx-wt 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:20 tmp/ drwxr-x--x 12 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:07 usr/ drwxr-x--x 17 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 var/ , and even other changes occured later. How come? And how to make chgrp's effect not change until I want to? My guess is msec is changing the permissions back for you. I don't know if /dev, /proc, and /sys need to be group owned by root, but I really question the need to have your entire system group owned by a simple user. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Better to su when you need to, or learn how to set up sudo. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Virus laden e-mail
Inhabitant of Zion wrote: So zap them before they even hit your machine: Just found out how to set my server to return to sender all mails to unknown users. Not ideal but at least I am getting a bit of peace and quite again! :-) I'm not sure if you want to do that. If it's anything like the stuff that was hitting my inbox a while back, the sender isn't really the virus, but it's using a designated unsecure SMTP server to masquerade as a specific sender, even though that sender doesn't have the virus. I don't know anything about this particular worm, but I know my inbox has been cluttered by similar stuff before. Oddly enough, I started getting it after I posted my email address(es) in a MSDN forum the address(es) I didn't post have never gotten it. Suspicous. Anywho, that's my two cents, SigmaChi -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] dvd problems
Greetings, I seem to be having difficulty in getting my dvdrom to work. I can't get mplayer, kaffeine, or kdenlive to show me any video. Mplayer locks up and has to be killed, kaffeine doesn't have the required plugin. Could someone help me? I can't get tuxracer to work either, so there may be a connection. Mplayer caused my .xsession-errors file to grow to in excess of 175MB's! It was so large in fact that I was unable to open it. :-( I am using 10.1 with stock kernel and have installed all updates. My comp is a Dell Inspiron 1150 with 2.8Ghz P4, 512MB ram. My CD/DVD is a Sony CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX830E. TIA for any feedback. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] upgrade 9.2 to 10.1 using urpmi
Fajar Priyanto wrote: I guess I'd better ask for help here too. On Thursday 16 December 2004 09:12 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Thursday 16 December 2004 08:08 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi folks, Can I upgrade my mdk9.2 to 10.1 using urpmi? The reason is because I haven't got the time to do a clean install of it. Can I do it? I mean, at least to upgrade certain part of the package, for example: apache and it's modules to the latest package available. Or, can I just download the rpm from 10.1 and use rpm -Uvh on the 9.2? Thanks. Ugh, I found it in the archive. Ok, then my question is: should I update all the sources to 10.1 or via 10.0 first? Ok, I chose to go to 10.1 I urpmi urpmi, then: The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded: ImageMagick-5.5.7.13-3plf.i586 (due to missing ghostscript, due to missing libwmflite-0.2.so.7, due to missing libMagick-5.5.7.so.0, due to unsatisfied libMagick5.5.7 == 5.5.7.13-3plf) XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.3-23mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied XFree86 == 4.3) XFree86-server-4.3-23mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied XFree86 == 4.3-23mdk) XFree86-xfs-4.3-23mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied XFree86-libs == 4.3-23mdk) chkfontpath-1.9.10-1mdk.i586 (due to missing XFree86-xfs) fonts-ttf-decoratives-1.3-12mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied chkfontpath = 1.4.1) fonts-ttf-vera-1.10-2mdk.noarch (due to missing chkfontpath[*]) fonts-ttf-west_european-1.3-12mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied chkfontpath = 1.4.1) ghostscript-7.07-0.12.1.92mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied urw-fonts = 1.1) libMagick5.5.7-5.5.7.13-3plf.i586 (due to missing libwmflite-0.2.so.7) libwmf-0.2.8-4mdk.i586 (due to missing libwmf-0.2.so.7, due to missing libwmflite-0.2.so.7) libwmf0.2_7-0.2.8-4mdk.i586 (due to missing urw-fonts, due to unsatisfied libwmf == 0.2.8-4mdk) php-imagick-4.3.3_0.9.7-3mdk.i586 (due to missing libwmflite-0.2.so.7, due to missing ImageMagick, due to missing libMagick-5.5.7.so.0) postgresql-python-7.3.4-2mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied postgresql == 7.3.4-2mdk) urw-fonts-2.0-10mdk.noarch (due to missing chkfontpath[*]) (y/N) y I said Y, and then: To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (187 MB): MySQL-bench-4.0.20-3.1.101mdk.i586 MySQL-client-4.0.20-3.1.101mdk.i586 bootloader-utils-1.9-1.1.101mdk.i586 bootsplash-2.1.13-1mdk.i586 dmidecode-2.4-1mdk.i586 drakconf-10.1-2mdk.i586 drakfirsttime-1.1-15mdk.noarch drakxtools-10.1-27.1.101mdk.i586 drakxtools-backend-10.1-27.1.101mdk.i586 drakxtools-newt-10.1-27.1.101mdk.i586 glibc-2.3.3-21mdk.i586 glibc-devel-2.3.3-21mdk.i586 glibc-static-devel-2.3.3-21mdk.i586 gtk+2.0-2.4.9-9mdk.i586 gtkdialogs-2.1-1mdk.i586 gurpmi-4.5-28mdk.noarch harddrake-10.1-27.1.101mdk.i586 harddrake-ui-10.1-27.1.101mdk.i586 hwdb-clients-0.16-1mdk.noarch ldconfig-2.3.3-21mdk.i586 ldetect-lst-0.1.23-1.1.101mdk.i586 libbeecrypt6-3.1.0-3mdk.i586 libcurl3-7.12.1-1mdk.i586 libecpg3-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0-2.4.9-9mdk.i586 libglib2.0_0-2.4.6-1mdk.i586 libgphoto-hotplug-2.1.4-3mdk.i586 libgphoto2-2.1.4-3mdk.i586 libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.4.9-9mdk.i586 libgtk+2.0_0-2.4.9-9mdk.i586 libidn11-0.5.4-1mdk.i586 libieee1284_3-0.2.8-1mdk.i586 libmysql12-4.0.20-3.1.101mdk.i586 libpango1.0_0-1.4.1-1mdk.i586 libpango1.0_0-modules-1.4.1-1mdk.i586 libpgtcl2-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 libpq3-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 libsane1-1.0.14-3mdk.i586 libstdc++6-3.4.1-4mdk.i586 libtiff3-3.6.1-4.1.101mdk.i586 libusb0.1_4-0.1.8-2mdk.i586 libvte4-0.11.11-3mdk.i586 libxorg-x11-6.7.0-4.2.101mdk.i586 locales-2.3.3-8mdk.i586 locales-en-2.3.3-8mdk.i586 mandrake-doc-common-10.1-1mdk.noarch mkinitrd-4.1.12-1mdk.i586 mod_perl-common-1.3.31_1.29-3mdk.i586 pango-1.4.1-1mdk.i586 perl-5.8.5-3.1.101mdk.i586 perl-Glib-1.054-1mdk.i586 perl-Gnome2-Vte-0.04-1mdk.i586 perl-Gtk2-1.054-1mdk.i586 perl-Gtk2-TrayIcon-0.04-1mdk.i586 perl-Libconf-0.33-2mdk.noarch perl-MDK-Common-1.1.18-1mdk.i586 perl-MIME-Lite-3.01-5mdk.noarch perl-MailTools-1.62-1mdk.noarch perl-Net-Jabber-1.30-1mdk.noarch perl-SOAP-Lite-0.60-0.a.2mdk.noarch perl-Term-ReadKey-2.21-4mdk.i586 perl-URPM-1.03-1mdk.i586 perl-XML-Stream-1.21-2mdk.noarch perl-base-5.8.5-3.1.101mdk.i586 perl-devel-5.8.5-3.1.101mdk.i586 perl-doc-5.8.5-3.1.101mdk.i586 perl-libwww-perl-5.800-1mdk.noarch popt-1.8.2-15mdk.i586 postgresql-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-contrib-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-devel-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-jdbc-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-pl-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-server-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-tcl-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 postgresql-test-7.4.5-4mdk.i586 rfbdrake-1.0-7mdk.noarch rpm-4.2.2-15mdk.i586 rpm-build-4.2.2-15mdk.i586 rpmdrake-2.1.5-13mdk.i586 sane-backends-1.0.14-3mdk.i586 sash-3.7-3mdk.i586 urpmi-4.5-28mdk.noarch userdrake-1.1-3mdk.i586 vte-0.11.11-3mdk.i586 xinitrc-2.4.11-1mdk.noarch xorg-x11-6.7.0-4.2.101mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) n Is this the correct thing to do? Is it safe if I answer yes? Thanks
Re: [newbie] Where to find alternatives *Boot Themes* for Mdk10.1?
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:37:30 -0500, RickSisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward, please don't hijack threads, this one alone has been hijacked 3 times and twice by you. Truly apologize, Rick. It was careless of me. However, I didn't mean it. Thanks for reminding me. Please take a look at the wiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette for the reasons why. Now looking at the link you gave me Rick. As to your question, what do you mean by Boot Themes ? If you don't mean splash themes ? do you mean supplied by a rpm from urpmi ? That was what I was looking for Rick. Thanks so much. -- Edward WIJAYA Singapore Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The effect of 'chgrp' is not pemanent?
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 2:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've noticed that, strangely, the effect of the command 'chgrp' is not permanent: I did # chgrp rodolfo /* Since this is the newbie list, Do not do this. If it was the expert list I'd say Are you sure you know what you're doing? To me this is highly dangerous from the point of view of system security and stability. and then # ls -l / ; then I rebooted the system, did '# ls -l /' again and this time the output was changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# ls -l / total 52 drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:05 bin/ drwxr-x--x 3 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 boot/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root3800 Dec 19 15:19 dev/ drwxr-x--x 71 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:19 etc/ drwxr-x--x 4 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 18:53 home/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:31 initrd/ drwxr-x--x 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:13 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 7 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 18 11:48 mnt/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Jan 5 2004 opt/ dr-xr-xr-x 79 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 proc/ drwx-- 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:08 root/ drwxr-x--x 2 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 sbin/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Dec 19 15:19 sys/ drwxrwx-wt 11 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 19 15:20 tmp/ drwxr-x--x 12 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 16:07 usr/ drwxr-x--x 17 root rodolfo 4096 Dec 17 15:59 var/ /dev and /proc are mounted filesystems, created at boot time. I don't have /sys on my system, but I expect it is also. , and even other changes occured later. How come? That will be msec, trying to keep your system secure. And how to make chgrp's effect not change until I want to? You could disable msec. You could even find how /dev, /proc and /sys are mounted and change that. But please don't. What are you trying to achieve? There has to be a better way. By the looks of the directory permissions you have selected a high security level. Most of mine are drwxr-xr-x. If that's your problem then it would be safer to reduce the security level or just work within it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where to find alternatives *Boot Themes* for Mdk10.1?
Edward Wijaya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:37:30 -0500, RickSisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward, please don't hijack threads, this one alone has been hijacked 3 times and twice by you. Truly apologize, Rick. It was careless of me. However, I didn't mean it. Thanks for reminding me. Your very welcome, I hope it didnt sound angry, and Thanks for understanding ;) As to your question, what do you mean by Boot Themes ? If you don't mean splash themes ? do you mean supplied by a rpm from urpmi ? That was what I was looking for Rick. Thanks so much. Happy to help Best Regards, -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
Thanks Todd, thanks Richard: Todd wrote: I really question the need to have your entire system group owned by a simple user. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Better to su when you need to, or learn how to set up sudo. Richard wrote: Are you sure you know what you're doing? To me this is highly dangerous from the point of view of system security and stability. What are you trying to achieve? There has to be a better way. Todd, Richard: if I only allow the group 'rodolfo' to read those directories and not to modify them in any way, then I don't see the danger. Anyhow, if the system tries so hard to oppose to what I'm doing it's quite clear that I'm trying to achieve what I want the wrong way. What I wish to do though is quite simple. 'rodolfo' is a normal user, but Rodolfo (me) is also the superuser, whereas say, 'alberto' is only a normal user. Then I wish to adopt for alberto a security level 4, i.e. alberto should not be able to see the '/' nor the '/home' directory (although he should be able to see and use the /mnt directory) and for rodolfo a level security 2, i.e. he should be able to see (but not to modify) the '/' dir and its subdirs. Now, the command 'chmod' as far as I know cannot diversify different permissions to different users: if I do, e.g., 'chmod -r /', this will prevent *all* users (not only alberto) to read the '/' directory. Even if I do 'chmod u-r /' or 'chmod g-r /' or 'chmod o-r /' the problem remains unless I don't first change the ownership of the dirs whose readability I want to attribute to rodolfo and not to alberto. That's why I did, under a security level 2: # chgrp rodolfo / # chgrp rodolfo /* # chmod o-r / # chmod o-r /* # chmod o+rwx /mnt # chmod g+rwx /mnt ; but, as we saw, the first two operations were not permanent. Maybe you could suggest a better way to achieve this purpose? Sorry if I was a little confusing, but the matter is not immediate to explain. Thanks, Rodolfo Regala e regalati Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis, navighi veloce e scarichi a 1.2 Mega. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
...Maybe a simple solution would be to add rodolfo to group 'root' in addition to group 'rodolfo'? I'm looking for the proper linux command to do so. Rodolfo Regala e regalati Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis, navighi veloce e scarichi a 1.2 Mega. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] xdesktopwaves 1.3
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 07:11, Len Lawrence wrote: libxfree86-devel Hi Len, Thanks for the suggestion. I d/l'd the libxfree86-devel from rpmfind.net and tried to install it with rpm -Uvh ... the following dependencies arose. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bill]# rpm -Uvh libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: XFree86-libs = 4.3-32.3.100mdk is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk fontconfig-devel = 2.1-4mdk is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk devel(libexpat) is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk devel(libfontconfig) is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk devel(libfreetype) is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk devel(libXpm) is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk devel(libz) is needed by libxfree86-devel-4.3-32.3.100mdk It seems the whole XFree86 system is required. Question: if I install these xfree86 files what are the chances it will break my Xorg installation? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] win- linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent two hours looking thru umpteen pages to find a torent site to dld the live cd for knoppix so I might see a demo or something to try learning about linux. I live in NY state so a site nearby would be nice if anyone knows of one. On 16 Dec 2004 at 18:43, Anders Lind wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:25:18 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any free program available to sample linux on a winxp system. I thought winaxe might but it is for networked systems. Is Knoppix what you are looking forit is Linux on a CD... /anders Nearby isn't nessesarily always the best choice for a mirror. If bandwidth is a problem with the mirrors (As it usually is in my experience), choose a mirror located where it's the middle of the night ;-). For examply, if I'm downloading at 5 o'clock CT, I might choose a mirror located in France, where it's midnight. Cheerio, ES -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Why companies insist on treating their customers as stupid idiots (Starband is aweful about this too annoying people, wish I could get DSL here) who couldn't care less about things like port forwarding is beyond me, but if you find a howto as to configure your router it should be intuitive enough. What type of router do you have? Each one is different, but often they have a http-based configuration applet built in, so you simple go to http://[routerLocalIP]; and it's all right there. From that point there should be stuff on google that'll tell you how to forward ports. -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 4:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Maybe a simple solution would be to add rodolfo to group 'root' in addition to group 'rodolfo'? I'm looking for the proper linux command to do so. Not root. Group wheel is a close match, but not quite what you're looking for. Not having used it myself, I don't know how close. chroot may also be worth looking at, but I think it's too restrictive. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Change Pass in PostGreSQL
Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2004 01:12 pm, Eric Scott wrote: Heya; Webmin isn't changing my password on PostGreSQL accounts when I tell it to... hit the save button... the works. It's just not being chipper. Any help? I don't necessarily need Webmin how would I change a user's password in PostGreSQL manually on my Mandrake 9.2 Server? Thanx, ES Hi Eric, 1. edit /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf change/remark the connection authentification method, and add this line: local all all trust -- it won't ask you any password anymore 2. restart postgresql: service postgresql restart 3. su postgres 4. psql -U postgres -d template1 5. alter user nameofuser with password 'thepassword'; 6. \q -- to quit 7. exit 8. restore the pg_hba.conf back to the original setting. 9. restart posgresql 10. you're clear to go :) Okay, sounded easy enough. I got around disabling the postgres account password by su-ing to Root then su-ing to postgres... and started up psql, which I'd never used before. It seems pretty simple... did ALTER USER [username] PASSWORD '[password]', but now what? Just quiting there apparently didn't apply the command I'd just run. The command-line prompt changed from ...=# to ...-# though, whatever that means. :-P Thanx in advance, SigmaChi -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mail server setup 9.2?
Okay, I tried this a while back with no success. Basically, I need a basic, step-by-step explanation of how to set up a sendmail server and courier-pop server on Mandrake 9.2, and how to add oodles of pop3 clients. I'm setting this up for a medium-large buisness, as they've had no success with their own Windows-based mail servers in front of their firewall ;-). Sendmail and Courier-IMAP-pop are installed and running. Thanx in advance, SigmaChi -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Editing default applications
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 12:51, Kenneth wrote: snip How do I dump BitTornado as the default application and get BitTorrent back as my default application to download *.torrent files? Thanks in Advance, Check kcontrol Components File Associations. Make sure that BitTorrent is at the top of the list of possible apps. Anne - -- Thanks.. I am beginning to think that its a FireFox problem. KcontrolComponentsFile Associations did not even have BitTorrent listed. BitTorrent GUI was the only listing there. None-the-less, I deleted that and reinstalled BitTorrent GUI. I also uninstalled FireFox and then re-installed FireFox via rpm. I think I must need to somehow manually edit a FireFox property file somewhere. Any other suggestions? Your assistance is appreciated. -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Editing default applications
Kenneth wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 12:51, Kenneth wrote: snip How do I dump BitTornado as the default application and get BitTorrent back as my default application to download *.torrent files? Thanks in Advance, Check kcontrol Components File Associations. Make sure that BitTorrent is at the top of the list of possible apps. Anne - -- Thanks.. I am beginning to think that its a FireFox problem. KcontrolComponentsFile Associations did not even have BitTorrent listed. BitTornado, I meant to say. BitTorrent GUI was the only listing there. None-the-less, I deleted that and reinstalled BitTorrent GUI. I also uninstalled FireFox and then re-installed FireFox via rpm. I think I must need to somehow manually edit a FireFox property file somewhere. Any other suggestions? Your assistance is appreciated. -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
On Sunday 19 December 2004 16:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : if I only allow the group 'rodolfo' to read those directories and not to modify them in any way, then I don't see the danger. Anyhow, if the system tries so hard to oppose to what I'm doing it's quite clear that I'm trying to achieve what I want the wrong way. What I wish to do though is quite simple. 'rodolfo' is a normal user, but Rodolfo (me) is also the superuser, whereas say, 'alberto' is only a normal user. Then I wish to adopt for alberto a security level 4, i.e. alberto should not be able to see the '/' nor the '/home' directory (although he should be able to see and use the /mnt directory) and for rodolfo a level security 2, i.e. he should be able to see (but not to modify) the '/' dir and its subdirs. Now, the command 'chmod' as far as I know cannot diversify different permissions to different users: if I do, e.g., 'chmod -r /', this will prevent *all* users (not only alberto) to read the '/' directory. Even if I do 'chmod u-r /' or 'chmod g-r /' or 'chmod o-r /' the problem remains unless I don't first change the ownership of the dirs whose readability I want to attribute to rodolfo and not to alberto. You are doing contradictory things. On the one hand you are increasing security by choosing security level 4. On the other hand you are completely ruining security by trying to give a user access to root files. Do you want this computer to be secure or not? You (Rodolfo) may be the administrator, but you should still not give user rodolfo special access.If user rodolfo has access to the root file system, then any application you run as rodolfo such as a browser may have a security flaw attacked, and then your entire system is compromised. If you want to do admin then you can become root user temporarily with 'su'. If you want user rodolfo to have special powers then you can grant them with 'sudoers' See 'man sudoers' for details. As for limiting what user 'alberto' is allowed to see, one way to achieve that is remove read permissions for public users to those directories. You can create custom rules in drakperm to do that. (Do not remove 'execute' permission or else alberto cannot use the apps in those directories) It is important to use drakperm and not just change the permissions yourself because the Mandrake Security system 'msec' will check the directories match the correct permissions and will change them back again. If you do not like what msec is doing you can always turn it off, its not compulsory to have good security. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MySQL WOn't Start
On Saturday 18 December 2004 20:30, EE wrote: Dears, I can't run MySql it says ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) Can you help What do you see in the syslog when you restart the mysql service? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dvd problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 15:01, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I seem to be having difficulty in getting my dvdrom to work. I can't get mplayer, kaffeine, or kdenlive to show me any video. Mplayer locks up and has to be killed, kaffeine doesn't have the required plugin. Could someone help me? I can't get tuxracer to work either, so there may be a connection. Mplayer caused my .xsession-errors file to grow to in excess of 175MB's! It was so large in fact that I was unable to open it. :-( I am using 10.1 with stock kernel and have installed all updates. My comp is a Dell Inspiron 1150 with 2.8Ghz P4, 512MB ram. My CD/DVD is a Sony CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX830E. Please also give details of your graphics card and maybe your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86-4.conf if you are not using 10.1) Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxfX6kFAvMr/nNX8RAhOqAKCHy4kWBNkgbZVU3kFhDDrUQo9H9ACcCade 55uPslhfNGIZVcn/KVVs++A= =AUD3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
Thanks, Derek. You say: [...] you are completely ruining security by trying to give a user access to root files. [...] So you mean that security level 2, which gives a user access to *read* all the files of the '/' dir and its subdirs except for the /root dir, completely ruins security? Why then is it the standard security level, the one suggested by default during the system's installation? You (Rodolfo) may be the administrator, but you should still not give user rodolfo special access. In fact I don't want to give user rodolfo any special access, I just want for him a security level 2, that's what I exactly wrote in my message. As for limiting what user 'alberto' is allowed to see, one way to achieve that is remove read permissions for public users to those directories. You can create custom rules in drakperm to do that. [...] Wouldn't this way the limitations work also for rodolfo, for whom instead I wish a 'freedom level' n.2? Cheers, Rodolfo Regala e regalati Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis, navighi veloce e scarichi a 1.2 Mega. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Burning problem
when trying to burn ISOs to disk using K3b the disk always fails the md5 sum I have set the burning speed as low as it will go 8x but I still get the problem. I need a good copy of Mdk 10.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
On Sunday 19 December 2004 21:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Derek. You say: [...] you are completely ruining security by trying to give a user access to root files. [...] So you mean that security level 2, which gives a user access to *read* all the files of the '/' dir and its subdirs except for the /root dir, completely ruins security? Why then is it the standard security level, the one suggested by default during the system's installation? You (Rodolfo) may be the administrator, but you should still not give user rodolfo special access. In fact I don't want to give user rodolfo any special access, I just want for him a security level 2, that's what I exactly wrote in my message. As for limiting what user 'alberto' is allowed to see, one way to achieve that is remove read permissions for public users to those directories. You can create custom rules in drakperm to do that. [...] Wouldn't this way the limitations work also for rodolfo, for whom instead I wish a 'freedom level' n.2? Cheers, Rodolfo From your sequence of posts I was under the impression that you were trying to give rodolfo group ownership of '/' with read and write permission. That would make rodolfo equivalent to root. Removing read permission from directories would indeed limit user rodolfo as well as user alberto, but that is where sudoers can help you. sudoers would give rodolfo permission to perform certain commands as if he were root user. Of course the more privileges you give rodolfo the greater the risk if user rodolfo is compromised. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Checking /usr/lib/rpm/macros
Dear All Could someone here running 10.1 Offical please send me a copy of the file /usr/lib/rpm/macros just to confirm that I did not change mine? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of
Removing read permission from directories would indeed limit user rodolfo as well as user alberto, but that is where sudoers can help you. sudoers would give rodolfo permission to perform certain commands as if he were root user. Yes, the problem with sudoers is that (as far as I know) one can only use them from command line, not in graphical mode (is that right?). But it's comfortable to navigate through files and directories with Konqueror. That's why I didn't consider this solution. Rodolfo Regala e regalati Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis, navighi veloce e scarichi a 1.2 Mega. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Checking /usr/lib/rpm/macros
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:08:06 +, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone here running 10.1 Offical please send me a copy of the file /usr/lib/rpm/macros just to confirm that I did not change mine? Got it. Thanks a lot! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of
On Sunday 19 December 2004 23:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Removing read permission from directories would indeed limit user rodolfo as well as user alberto, but that is where sudoers can help you. sudoers would give rodolfo permission to perform certain commands as if he were root user. Yes, the problem with sudoers is that (as far as I know) one can only use them from command line, not in graphical mode (is that right?). But it's comfortable to navigate through files and directories with Konqueror. That's why I didn't consider this solution. Rodolfo Well I just tried it out by using 'visudo' and adding the line derek ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/konqueror and it worked. I could run 'sudo /usr/bin/konqueror' and it opens up with root privilege. But when I add derek ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/kfmclient openProfile filemanagement then 'sudo /usr/bin/kfmclient openProfile filemanagement' opened with normal user privilege. So it looks like sudoers is able to provide the privilege you want for graphical applications, but it will take a bit of experimentation to get it exactly right. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of 'chgrp' is not permanent?
Basically, Rodolfo, you cannot do what you want. In reality Linux has
exactly one root account with multiple doors into the account, each
with slightly different characteristics and names for login. But they
are all the same account, account 0. So you can create all the root
accounts you want with all the names you want but they are still root.
Linux is not Windows. Nor can it easily be bent to act like Windows in
this regard. You MIGHT be able to pervert SELinux to achieve the effect
you want, since it is access list based. However, your level of
ignorance in this regard betrays itself in your asking how to do this.
It is basically bloody stupid to attempt to run the machine as a user
with too many privileges. The really easy ability to run programs as
root or log a terminal session in as root for performing rootish
tasks makes living as a root account rather silly. It also means
you must run chkrootkit several times a day to keep your system
clean. You also must run urpmi several times a day to stay absolutely
up to date on security patches. Or else keep it as a hobby machine with
absolutely nothing personal or critical on it. In spite of the touching
comments here about Linux being virus free it is not compromise free.
It just has a longer lifetime when the typical configuration is exposed
to the Internet, days rather than minutes. Within a year it would not
really be your machine anymore even though you'd be paying the electric
bill to keep it running for its owner.
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Todd, thanks Richard:
Todd wrote:
I really
question the need to have your entire system group owned by a simple
user. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Better to su when you
need to, or learn how to set up sudo.
Richard wrote:
Are you sure you know what you're
doing?
To me this is highly dangerous from the point of view of system security
and stability.
What are you trying to achieve? There has to be a better way.
Todd, Richard:
if I only allow the group 'rodolfo' to read those directories
and not to modify them in any way, then I don't see the danger.
Anyhow, if the system tries so hard to oppose to what I'm doing
it's quite clear that I'm trying to achieve what I want the wrong way.
What I wish to do though is quite simple.
'rodolfo' is a normal user, but Rodolfo (me) is also the superuser,
whereas say, 'alberto' is only a normal user.
Then I wish to adopt for alberto a security level 4, i.e. alberto
should not be able to see the '/' nor the '/home' directory
(although he should be able to see and use the /mnt directory)
and for rodolfo a level security 2, i.e. he should be able to see
(but not to modify) the '/' dir and its subdirs.
Now, the command 'chmod' as far as I know cannot diversify different
permissions to different users: if I do, e.g., 'chmod -r /',
this will prevent *all* users (not only alberto) to read the '/' directory.
Even if I do 'chmod u-r /' or 'chmod g-r /' or 'chmod o-r /'
the problem remains unless I don't first change the ownership
of the dirs whose readability I want to attribute to rodolfo and not to
alberto.
That's why I did, under a security level 2:
# chgrp rodolfo /
# chgrp rodolfo /*
# chmod o-r /
# chmod o-r /*
# chmod o+rwx /mnt
# chmod g+rwx /mnt
; but, as we saw, the first two operations were not permanent.
Maybe you could suggest a better way to achieve this purpose?
Sorry if I was a little confusing, but the matter is not immediate to
explain.
Thanks,
Rodolfo
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1.2 Mega.
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Re: [newbie] dvd problems
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dvd problems Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:43:22 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 15:01, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I seem to be having difficulty in getting my dvdrom to work. I can't get mplayer, kaffeine, or kdenlive to show me any video. Mplayer locks up and has to be killed, kaffeine doesn't have the required plugin. Could someone help me? I can't get tuxracer to work either, so there may be a connection. Mplayer caused my .xsession-errors file to grow to in excess of 175MB's! It was so large in fact that I was unable to open it. :-( I am using 10.1 with stock kernel and have installed all updates. My comp is a Dell Inspiron 1150 with 2.8Ghz P4, 512MB ram. My CD/DVD is a Sony CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX830E. Please also give details of your graphics card and maybe your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86-4.conf if you are not using 10.1) Anne ** Anne, thank you for your reply. My graphics are by way of Intel integrated direct AGP (85x Chipset Graphics Controller). I will attach my /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your perusal. Thanks once again. :-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze xorg.conf Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dvd problems
On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 23:50 -0300, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] dvd problems Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:43:22 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 Dec 2004 15:01, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I seem to be having difficulty in getting my dvdrom to work. I can't get mplayer, kaffeine, or kdenlive to show me any video. Mplayer locks up and has to be killed, kaffeine doesn't have the required plugin. Could someone help me? I can't get tuxracer to work either, so there may be a connection. Mplayer caused my .xsession-errors file to grow to in excess of 175MB's! It was so large in fact that I was unable to open it. :-( I am using 10.1 with stock kernel and have installed all updates. My comp is a Dell Inspiron 1150 with 2.8Ghz P4, 512MB ram. My CD/DVD is a Sony CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX830E. Please also give details of your graphics card and maybe your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86-4.conf if you are not using 10.1) Anne ** Anne, thank you for your reply. My graphics are by way of Intel integrated direct AGP (85x Chipset Graphics Controller). I will attach my /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your perusal. Thanks once again. :-) --Angus Stupid question: you installed libdvdcss, didn't you ? -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/imaginis usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 02:16:45 up 5:15, 1 user, load average: 0.51, 0.40, 0.46 ** Somos o que repetidamente fazemos. A excelência, portanto, não é um feito, mas um hábito. Aristóteles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hardware Questions
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:30:15 -0800 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: specific information about if I might encounter any trouble trying to use any of the following with Mandrake? Asus p4s533 motherboard p4 1.6 GHz processor geforce ti4200 agp video card Doubtful you would have problems. That's mostly current stuff. My advise would be to first try a live cd distro on it just for testing purposes, such as knoppix or mepis. Then if it boots fine and detects the hardware you could just go ahead and install mandrake on it. Then you'd still end up with a good and useful other distro to try for testing, or for other uses. Amy -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Charlers edwards
anybody got charles's site for rpms? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Charlers edwards
On Monday 20 December 2004 06:48, Aron Smith wrote: anybody got charles's site for rpms? it is on the twiki under using non mdrake rpms: http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ -- the riddle which man must solve, he can only solve in being, in being what he is and not something else http://auskadi.tk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of
On Sunday 19 December 2004 03:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Removing read permission from directories would indeed limit user rodolfo | as well as user alberto, but that is where sudoers can help you. sudoers | would give rodolfo permission to perform certain commands as if he were | root user. | | Yes, | | the problem with sudoers is that (as far as I know) | one can only use them from command line, not in graphical mode | (is that right?). | But it's comfortable to navigate through files and directories | with Konqueror. That's why I didn't consider this solution. | | Rodolfo | | No, in a terminal type: kdesu konqueror A pop up password logon box will appear, and after you type the root password it will open konqueror as root. Back in the old days, before 9.1, there was a shortcut in the start menu for accomplishing this, but it was removed for security purposes. Since then, I make my own shortcut for this action. I sometimes want to drag and drop files as root, because I am constantly making typos when I try to move or copy from the command line. Me Bad e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Re: The effect of
Another option is to run midnight commander (mc) from the terminal, after su ing. Not as pretty as Konqueror though Hth hugh -Original Message- From: Erylon Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 December 2004 4:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of On Sunday 19 December 2004 03:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Removing read permission from directories would indeed limit user | rodolfo as well as user alberto, but that is where sudoers can help | you. sudoers would give rodolfo permission to perform certain | commands as if he were root user. | | Yes, | | the problem with sudoers is that (as far as I know) | one can only use them from command line, not in graphical mode (is | that right?). But it's comfortable to navigate through files and | directories with Konqueror. That's why I didn't consider this | solution. | | Rodolfo | | No, in a terminal type: kdesu konqueror A pop up password logon box will appear, and after you type the root password it will open konqueror as root. Back in the old days, before 9.1, there was a shortcut in the start menu for accomplishing this, but it was removed for security purposes. Since then, I make my own shortcut for this action. I sometimes want to drag and drop files as root, because I am constantly making typos when I try to move or copy from the command line. Me Bad e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of
On Sunday 19 December 2004 09:40 pm, Hugh Dixon wrote: | Another option is to run midnight commander (mc) from the terminal, | after su ing. | Not as pretty as Konqueror though | | Hth | | hugh | | That will work--and mc looks like the old Norton Commander from DOS days. It will require you to urpmi mc though, because I don't think mc is installed by default (I have it but I think I had to install it). e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of
and using mc is a milestone on the way to geekdom :-) On Monday 20 December 2004 06:49, Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 19 December 2004 09:40 pm, Hugh Dixon wrote: | Another option is to run midnight commander (mc) from the terminal, | after su ing. | Not as pretty as Konqueror though | | Hth | | hugh That will work--and mc looks like the old Norton Commander from DOS days. It will require you to urpmi mc though, because I don't think mc is installed by default (I have it but I think I had to install it). e -- the riddle which man must solve, he can only solve in being, in being what he is and not something else http://auskadi.tk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Re: The effect of
I doubt I elected to install it - but maybe. To me it is two steps back from geekdom than using the CLI !! hugh -Original Message- From: Erylon Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 December 2004 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of On Sunday 19 December 2004 09:40 pm, Hugh Dixon wrote: | Another option is to run midnight commander (mc) from the terminal, | after su ing. Not as pretty as Konqueror though | | Hth | | hugh | | That will work--and mc looks like the old Norton Commander from DOS days. It will require you to urpmi mc though, because I don't think mc is installed by default (I have it but I think I had to install it). e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] looking for LPI (and Linux+) cert's. need asssistance finding right books.
I'm primarily focused on getting my LPI certification then my Linux+ cert. I would like to hear people who actually have these certifications about recent books that would ensure i have the proper training material along with hard study to pass the exams. There was a one e-learning site i mentioend some time ago that had a 800 page book and 30 days of linux support for $320 paypal. I am not sure this is the way to go for me. i do have the essentials mostly covered just start needed to learn the things i either dont know about or have always wanted to try (apache, bind, postfix) and i realize this isn't specific to mdk but recommended by them though mdk is my distro of choice. i'm going to have to get my hands dirty. i'm having a computer tower assembled for this purpose so i can network it what with what has been my primary computer. it will have plenty of resources to handle any task. what i need though are books ! I am begging the community to come up with a book list for me that will help me get my LPI. someone earlier suggested the LPI Linux cert,. in a nutshell for $70 or so but i have read that it is probably not sufficient to pass and now that it is christmas its impossible to get a 2003 copy. again i did mention Linux+ as well but i feel LPI is what i want to tackle first so if we could please start from there. i know its asking alot for a book listing but someone was weary of the $300 deal and it does seem silly to package a briefcase with it for the nice little 800 page book. if you wish to communicate with me further on a one one one basis please add specialplan93 to your yahoo or simply reply to this post. i'm desperate. i'm disabled. i want to work at home and avoid 3-dimensional people as much as reasonably possible. believe it or not my disability is mental but i have the determination to do this. thank you ! Arthur Rosene III Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: The effect of
On Sunday 19 December 2004 09:58 pm, Hugh Dixon wrote: | I doubt I elected to install it - but maybe. To me it is two steps back | from geekdom than using the CLI !! | hugh | | You obviously type better than mi e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Charlers edwards
On Sunday 19 December 2004 09:31 pm, Martin wrote: On Monday 20 December 2004 06:48, Aron Smith wrote: anybody got charles's site for rpms? it is on the twiki under using non mdrake rpms: http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning problem
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:52:17 -0800 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when trying to burn ISOs to disk using K3b the disk always fails the md5 sum I have set the burning speed as low as it will go 8x but I still get the problem. I need a good copy of Mdk 10.1 Check here to see if you did get a good burn: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BurningCDsFromISOs eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
