[newbie] How do I configure X for a Creative Labs Savage4 3D Blaster
I'm not having much luck with 4.0.2 or 3.3.6. I have an SVGA 1024 x 768 70 mhz monitor. I am using the latest cooker version and can't make it past the test screen. I'm posting this here in hopes someone else has the card working and can tell me how its configured, or perhaps someone can tell me how to look at its configuration under my 7.2 boot. Thanks BobC
Re: [newbie] 2nd Ethernet Card Problem
Not to pretend I'm the world's authority, but if I was to hazard a guess, you don't have the card you think you have on eth0. I'd suggest figuring out exactly what cards you have, on what irq's and i/o addresses, and what driver's they should be using. Once known, you could do insmod to get the other card going. You can run dmesg | more or use ifconfig to find out what it thinks, now. Have you got plug play on in the bios? Maybe it changed things if you do. I'd also suggest, that if you want any useful help here, that if you included the above info, it would be a lot easier for a knowledgeable person to help. BobC --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, OK...here is my dilema...I have a system with 2 ethernet cards in it and the 1st card has a public IP 24.x.x.x and a sub-interface as well 192.168.x.x What I want to do is set up the second card to be the 192.168 interface but everytime I go to try and set it up, it doesn't work. When I plug in the ethernet I have link but when I show the interfaces it never shows up...it shows eth0, eth0:192 and lo (loopback). Here is my question, how can I set my system up to recognize the second card. By the way it's a D-Link card. In /etc/sysconfig/hwconf it only shows the one ethernet card any thoughts here would be good since I really can't lock down my box properly if I have my private ip address on a public interface! :-) Thanks in advance, Brian Garel ICQ# 1598357 Do you know MailStudio @MESSAGE? Powered by 3R Soft, Inc. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] performance issues
Sandra, Its not the Linux thats slow, its the Netscape, IMHO. I have a P200 with 64mb running 7.1, and its painful, but mostly just Netscape is painful slow... Try Konqueror, its lots quicker. Not as fully featured, but personally, I think the needed ones are there. I try to use it when I can, and only resort to Netscape if I must. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sandra Sherrill Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] performance issues I am new to linux. i have mandrake 7.2. it runs slowlike a p166 in win98!!! I have a p2 333 with 256mb ram (mem is reported correctly in mandrake) I have a 243mb swap partition that seems never got get used by the system. using kde 2. what could be wrong. i click on etscape and it takes about 10 seconds to load. Isn't this supporsed to be a fast OS? how do i get linux to be fast like my win98? Thanks, Sandy
[newbie] What is best Xfree upgrade option for 3D Blaster Savage4?
I have 7.2 running on it, with XFree 3.3.6 in some places and 4.0.1 in others (as it came with 7.2 cd). I found an upgrade on Creative Labs site, but it doesn't say what version its for in the README or anywhere else I could find.. I also found XFree 4.0.2, but its not available as an RPM, so I'd be on my own as far as getting it working. I heard that 4.0.2 supports the 3D Blaster Savage4. What is my best bet? Anyone else have the card, or has upgraded to 4.0.2, already? How was it? Any tricky things? Thanks, BobC
[newbie] Looking for 2 computer TCP/IP open source arcade type games
I have a son that wants to learn to code. Nothing like taking things that work, dissecting them, and tweaking them a bit as a fun learning tool. Any suggestions? Java games, maybe? I'll be playing, too (code and game wise). Thanks for any suggestions, BobC
RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Yes, I like it your way. The main idea was to make it easy to get a GOOD install from the get go with the capabilities needed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 4:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; civileme Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux This has just given me an idea. Instead of just having some preset installation configurations like "Workstation", "Development and "Server", we could have get of checkboxes, with each option representing a function (i.e. not a programme). That way, we can mix and match functions (i.e. be able to select multiple checkboxes). For example, someone could choose to have their machine set up as both a server and a general-purpose home machine, and then Drakx would install the preset programmes for both. Of course, the user must have the option of being able to fine-tune the programmes to be installed. We could even have subgroups, where the user can choose to install certain functions of a main group. For example, a user could choose the Workstation install, but not install multimedia players (e.g. MP3 and video players along with their associated libraries). This could be useful for office environments that need small and clean installations on each machine (it also can be used by employers to stop workers from watching movies or playing games during office hours :-) ). On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:59, Bob Currey wrote: I think "dumbing down" the automatic install is needed if it will ever be for the masses. I think added selectivity in the "custom" install based on purpose would be best for the techies that like to play to get at least the right packages for starters. Like my situation is a "Home Server/Desktop". The server option removes the GUI entirely. The other options remove the server capability. The end result was a month of how-tos and attempts needed to get things running. Yes, I learned a lot, but most people would have given up long before. It just needs to be a bit more flexible without getting scary. Those who want to see scary can click "expert". I would have tried "yes" for shadow passwords, but figured they were trying to impress on me how little II really knew, and figured my likelihood of sucess at approx. nil, given that. I remember seeing a contest where C programmers took pride in making their programs unreadable a few years back. I'm not a glutton for punishment. BobC
[newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
It started yesterday, after there was a power failure. Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms Barracuda drives. The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb. No, it can't be slow!!! Without running X its horribly slow. With X, its unbelievably slow. Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!! startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up. The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later. The drives are barely being hit. The NIC isn't flashing. There are no error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a station on my internal home LAN). It seems like pine runs at normal speed (comparatively) once its up. pico seems to come up fine by itself. Am I at another reload? Any suggestions how to diagnose? I shut it down, powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests on the drives, checked the BIOS setup. Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs fine. Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason... Help! BobC
RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
What's the best way to reload it? Fdisk and remove the partition? Is there a less painful way? I tried the other solutions. CPU usage is almost nil... Thanks, BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:27, you wrote: It started yesterday, after there was a power failure. Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms Barracuda drives. The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb. No, it can't be slow!!! Without running X its horribly slow. With X, its unbelievably slow. Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!! startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up. The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later. The drives are barely being hit. The NIC isn't flashing. There are no error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a station on my internal home LAN). It seems like pine runs at normal speed (comparatively) once its up. pico seems to come up fine by itself. Am I at another reload? Any suggestions how to diagnose? I shut it down, powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests on the drives, checked the BIOS setup. Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs fine. Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason... Help! BobC Well, you might want to try top or ktop to see the process that is hogging the cpu, but most likely it will be less trouble to reload the system (as in reinstall). Something got clobbered (we hope it isn't hardware) which other processes are waiting for completion of. Civileme
RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
As I'm reading this, the install's host name prompt screen sits in front of me. Because of my setup, I am always lost in the how-tos as far as host name is concerned. At the moment, I'm loading a new server. For the time being, it will have eth0 connected to my home net, getting an IP address via the DHCP server on my other Linux box which is currently the server. The 2nd NIC at eth1 is not connected at present, and won't be used till I replace the old server with this new one, and then eth1 will run a DHCP server for the home LAN. The fact that I don't have a Domain has caused me tremendous grief, in that setting up Apache, Samba, a DNS server, the FTP server, the Proxy server, etc, all expect one, when you read the how-tos. For someone not a Linux guru, it makes the stuff incomprehensible, as nothing fits. For that reason, I ended up giving up at least for the time being on installing them on my server (both the old one and new one), but would be very grateful if someone could explain what I'm supposed to fill in when they want you to put in your domain name in these setups. I spent many hours reading and never understood how to set them up as a result. I imagine anyone else with a home LAN that doesn't have a domain name (and this would be normal, I'd expect) would be having the same trouble. Any clues would be appreciated The reload is almost completed (at the cost of an afternoon), and I'm guessing from what you say, I'll have the same problem again. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose M. Sanchez Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow Sounds like a resolver issue. Most applications, including X need to be able to resolv hostnames to IP addresses. This even if it's only locally. If X cannot determine a local IP then X will not come up right away. Rather the applications will hang up until they time out, then things will run until you hit the next application. I'll also bet that you get a similiar pause during the boot when the mail daemons are initialized. Check your settings, something is wrong. Your system doesn't know it's own name! -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow It started yesterday, after there was a power failure. Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms Barracuda drives. The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb. No, it can't be slow!!! Without running X its horribly slow. With X, its unbelievably slow. Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!! startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up. The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later. The drives are barely being hit. The NIC isn't flashing. There are no error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a station on my internal home LAN). It seems like pine runs at normal speed (comparatively) once its up. pico seems to come up fine by itself. Am I at another reload? Any suggestions how to diagnose? I shut it down, powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests on the drives, checked the BIOS setup. Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs fine. Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason... Help! BobC
RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt
Your link is hosed http://www.maximumlinux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html I read enough of it to see that its for Red Hat, not Mandrake, uses a custom install, doesn't use LILO, and uses BeOS bootman to boot. If I attempted it, I'd fail, I think... BobC just a newbie with Linux, but older and wiser, otherwise :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of L. H. LOO Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt At 20-01-2001 +0800, you wrote: Can Linux Mandrake dual-boot with Windows 2000? And how to do so?( i have heared that linux's bootloader cannot boot Winows nt) FYI http://www.maximum.inux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html
RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt
Yup, I did read that, and a bunch more... http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html The how to, although having plenty of good info, does not address win/2000 or nt at all since the author had neither. I talked to ops in linux-mandrake on irc and there are differences in the nt boot as compared to win/2000. I don't recall the details. I don't think its anything for 98% of the newbie type people I know to mess with. Hopefully, the other 2% are wise enough to be doing it on a spare disk drive. I made the mistake of trying to multiboot using space I had left free once a few years ago and lost it all (my live partition, with all my apps and code and financial stuff) in a goofed partitioning program or via my error, I'll never know. I gotta say, though, Linux newbies in particular, seem to rarely be real newbie types like the one I deal with all day, everyday. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Meph Istopheles Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt At 20-01-2001 +0800, you wrote: Can Linux Mandrake dual-boot with Windows 2000? And how to do so?( i have heared that linux's bootloader cannot boot Winows nt) FYI http://www.maximum.inux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html With or without that link, while you really ought to read the multi-boot howto's at http://www.linuxdoc.org, it's not difficult. The safest thing when setting up a dual- or multi-boot box with any form of M$ (though I don't know if anyone's had the same trouble with SCO) is to be sure the M$ product is installed first. The howtos will tell you how to do so otherwise, but it is recommended M$ go first. From experience with dual-booting RedHat 6.0 W9x, WNT4.0 or W2k, as well as dual-booting LM7.2 W2k, when you install the Linux, it should (, in most cases, will) find that you have another OS installed will allow you to either delete that partition or to use other, unused space. After partitioning the unused space installing, you'll get to the boot set-up. Here you'll tell the system what boot loader to use. The first time you boot, you'll likely not have access to your M$ partition. So, once booted logged into your LM as root, you'll have to do a couple of things. If you'd chosen to use the Grub (default) boot loader, you'll open DrakConf, go to the boot tools icon set that up with your M$ partition. You can call it anything you'd like, but will find it helpful later if you keep it something simple, like win. After that, in a terminal or graphical editor, open /etc/fstab enter a line like this: /dev/hda1 /winvfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0 The /dev/hdaX is whatever drive (in this case, after installing W2k first, likely hda1), the /win is the name you've given your W2k partition, the rest is easy access technicalities you can alter by reading the howto's to make more to your liking. After that, as root at the prompt, type: # mkdir /win or whatever you've decided to call your W2k partition in /etc/fstab, reboot. Of course, you don't actually ~have~ to reboot, you can simply enter: # mount /win you're set, but rebooting will let you see all the pretty icons in Grub or the lovely green or red indicators in lilo:-). Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
I think "dumbing down" the automatic install is needed if it will ever be for the masses. I think added selectivity in the "custom" install based on purpose would be best for the techies that like to play to get at least the right packages for starters. Like my situation is a "Home Server/Desktop". The server option removes the GUI entirely. The other options remove the server capability. The end result was a month of how-tos and attempts needed to get things running. Yes, I learned a lot, but most people would have given up long before. It just needs to be a bit more flexible without getting scary. Those who want to see scary can click "expert". I would have tried "yes" for shadow passwords, but figured they were trying to impress on me how little II really knew, and figured my likelihood of sucess at approx. nil, given that. I remember seeing a contest where C programmers took pride in making their programs unreadable a few years back. I'm not a glutton for punishment. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:25 AM To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux All of the above and anything else that folks can think of to do with Linux. For me there is no other OS worth my time or energy. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: If everything "has a purpose" then what exactly *is* Linux's purpose? Is it to run desktop workstations? Servers? Supercomputers? PDAs? Web pads? Wristwatches? Linux has been proven to run well on all these devices, and it is continuing to push both downwards (towards embedded devices, etc.) and upwards (towards high-end servers, etc.), while consolidating its position in the middle (desktop computers, etc.). While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a "dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people, especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what you need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work at the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all these scenarios. See my point? On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:35, Adrian Smith wrote: this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here. =) i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying than I am. probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't. but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about converting windoze users? should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick shifts so that everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck? a honda accord has a purpose. a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a purpose. they are not the same purpose. a hunting rifle has a purpose. a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose. they are not the same purpose. windows has a purpose. linux has a purpose. they are not the same purpose. use the right tool for the right job. if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using windows? i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't understand this. no product can be everything to everybody. no product. name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person on the planet. i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing. i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now. =) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 OK y'all !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ; Actually I thought it was a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the perception of. The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb. A current 'du -ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and
RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt
I think I'll be saving this msg for another day... Thanks for the info... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of eryl Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt Bob Currey wrote: Yup, I did read that, and a bunch more... http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html The how to, although having plenty of good info, does not address win/2000 or nt at all since the author had neither. Meph has his way, I have mine. My preference is to use the NT/Win2000 bootloader to control the boot-up process. Load Win2000(or NT4.0) first, preferrably on the 1st partition. If you're using 2 drives, put it on the primary drive (the Windows boot sector needs to be on the drive that the bios looks at first). Second, install linux and be absolutely certain that you create a boot disk! Choose lilo as the bootloader and DO NOT install it to the mbr, but install it to the first linux partition, mine is hda6 (or to the linux drive if you are using 2 harddisks). When this is done the lilo.conf boot line (boot=) should point to the linux partition, NOT the Win2000 partition. Now, we need to get the linux boot sector to Windows 2000. Boot with the linux floppy and then remove the floppy, put in a blank diskette and mount the drive (it will probably already be mounted, but if not use the following command) mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy Copy the LILO boot sector to the floppy with the command: dd if=/dev/hda6 bs=512 count=1 of=mnt/floppy/linux.bin Substitute the hda6 for whatever your first linux partition is (you know, the one that you installed LILO to). Reboot into Windows2000 and copy the linux.bin file from the floppy to your root drive (C:\). Next, use Notepad to open the boot.ini file and add the line:C:\linux.bin="Mandrake Linux"to the end of the file (write the boot.ini file if you have to, unaccountably, some NT4.0 boot.ini's are blank. This is what my boot.ini looks like: [boot loader] timeout=0 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 /fa c:\linux.bin="Mandrake Linux" Save and exit. Open an MSDOS window and at the prompt: C:attrib -s -r boot.ini Reboot with no floppy in the drive and you should see an option for Linux Mandrake. You may need to open My Computer, choose Properties, then Advanced and in the startup and recovery section check the box to display all operating systems, and then set the number of seconds to display the screen before booting the default OS. You can make Linux the default if you wish.
Re: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
By the way, I noticed Netgear put a new Linux driver package for the FA311 on their site on 1/5/01, but all the files in it are dated from August. I didn't try it, since neither card of mine is in either of my Linux machines, but the FA312 uses the same software as the FA311, I believe. They also refer to the www.skyld.com (I think) site on the page with the FA311 driver, so you might want to check out the FA311 driver updates page. I ended up buying SMC cards to solve my problem, so good luck, BobC --- Bryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I've got 2 NICs in my box, a 3COM507 (3c507.o) and a new Netgear fa312. When I attempt to compile the drivers that came with the card (as well as the latest versions downloaded from the netgear website), I get a HOST (like 200 lines+) of compile errors and, obviously, no .o file. When I just copy the .o file on the disk into /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ and reboot depmod reports "unresolved symbols in fa312.o" and no 2nd NIC Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Believe it or not, I don't have reliable access to NNTP, so if anyone is kind enough to respond, can you be sure to CC me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or this address). Thanks very much! Bryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] Modems
Be careful, here, and don't buy a modem that is supposedly Linux compatible, thinking it will work for voice under Linux as well as data. I have 3 that were "green" on the list that didn't work. Needless to say, I wasted much time, money and effort. There is a separate list (much shorter) for ones that work in voice applications. Since I'm using MS Crap Outhouselook, I can't see where you are sending from, but if in the US, the Zytel modems gennerally work for voice, I believe as well as data and fax. I wish I has known that in the beginning. I found that somewhere off the mgetty page or list. Sorry, I didn't save the link, as it was a couple reloads ago. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of GrUnTiE GoOdInE Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modems Just wondering if anyone can point me two a web page that lists Linux Compatable modems?? Thanks _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: [newbie] VPN Client software
Maybe nobody else here has been able to both figure out the how to's and get it to work? That wouldn't be too surprising on a Newbie list. FWIW, I have successfully setup VPN on NT Servers, and clients on Win/95, Win/98 (1 machine unsuccessful, even reloaded - I refuse to pay M$ $245 to help, screw that machine), and Win/2000. With Linux, I tried to read the VPN how to and mini how to a week ago, figuring to use it to connect to a site I was having problems connecting to with a Win/98 machine, and after a few hours of reading, decided I didn't have the time to get Linux VPN capability as complex as it looked. Maybe its just that the M$ stuff is simplistic or something, options wise, but it was nowhere near as daunting to figure out how to set it up. If anyone actually gets a Linux VPN client to connect and work on an NT Server, please post what software versions are running and what options are set to on the server and client so as to provide a trail of crumbs for those of us unable to sort it all out and make sense of it. It makes me feel better that it wasn't just me. Sorry I had no solution to offer... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:53 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] VPN Client software I've been beating my head against this one for a while. No one here has responded to my VPN questions. My problem is that I have to connect to a VPN server running W2K. Consequently, it's my impression that I have to do PPTP because that's how MS VPN server operates. Check out: www.freeswan.org http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/software/pptp.html and of course the VPN HOW-TOs If you can, let me know if you get this working... -Original Message- From: Wignall, Mark T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] VPN Client software Greets Penguin-Pals! Looking for something similar to NT2000's built in feature to VPN to our corporate network. Commercia/Share/Freeware are all fine. I'm NOT looking to do ssh/PPTP if I don't have to. I also, don't want to run linux masquerading if I don't have to as both my machines at home NT and Linux, each have their own static IP's, so don't see the need. Can any of you guru's out there help me out? TIA, __ Mark T. Wignall MES Database Administrator Xerox Corporation Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (503) 685-3071 (Office) (503) 703-9383 (Cell) (503) 599-6213 (Pager)
[newbie] Konqueror javascript works under KDE 2.1 w/7.2 Mandrake
So now I can use it for a web browser :) There were a few glitches in the install, but it all worked. Many thanks to Brian Masney who wrote gFTP that made it easy to get all the files, even recovering from a bunch of disconnects :) Here are the instructions I found on the web at Deja News. I fixed them up a bit. Subject: Re: Still trying to get kde 2.1 beta to go Date: 01/03/2001 Author: sgt_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] i saw some instructions for kde 2.0.1 that seem to work for kde 2.1. i created a directory for the rpms and download all them to it. i logout, then click shutdown - console mode - ok. hit enter once and login as a normal user then... su(use root password) cd to the directory where the rpm's are rpm -F --force --nodeps *.rpm rpm --rebuilddb update-menus -v wait for it to finish... shutdown -r now everything works fine for me then __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
I have both an FA311 and FA312. They are both toast, as far as Linux is concerned, IMHO. On the Netgear support site, they have a link to a guy that created some drivers, and I tried to follow the instructions, there, but to no avail. I emailed the Netgear tech support with a request for help or instructions in November, but they never responded. Isn't it sad that they say "Linux" on the box? At every computer store I go to, if they try to sell me any Netgear stuff (like last week at CDW), I tell the this saga. Nothing like advertising via word of mouth for effectiveness. Guess who builds networks for a living and won't be buying any more Netgear crap? BTW, trade for an FA310 if you can, as that will just work with a Tulip driver. good luck, BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryan Cross Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC! Hi folks, I've got 2 NICs in my box, a 3COM507 (3c507.o) and a new Netgear fa312. When I attempt to compile the drivers that came with the card (as well as the latest versions downloaded from the netgear website), I get a HOST (like 200 lines+) of compile errors and, obviously, no .o file. When I just copy the .o file on the disk into /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ and reboot depmod reports "unresolved symbols in fa312.o" and no 2nd NIC Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Believe it or not, I don't have reliable access to NNTP, so if anyone is kind enough to respond, can you be sure to CC me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or this address). Thanks very much! Bryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
Ummm, I'm no pro at Linux, but if it works manually, why not add it to one of the system startup scripts, so it runs automatically when you boot? I noticed with mediaone that I had to do it a couple times, sometimes to get a lease. I haven't had trouble with it lately. No clue why or why not, other than that I haven't rebooted the server lately. My current server is on 7.1, too, so perhaps thats part of the reason, but I sure wouldn't reccomend going back to 7.1 like I did to get it to work. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Lambert Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC! ever since I upgraded to mandrake 7.2 my network connection fails at bootup. more specifically dhcp cant resolve the host name and eth0 fails. that is until I manually run dhcpcd -h hostnamefrom a prompt. I've tried every combination of host+domain name for the network settings. So basically how can I get dhcp to work properly on boot, anyone have a similar problem? Using @home network if that helps any. josh lambert _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
[newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo?
The machine is running Mandrake 7.2. Is there a way to fix it? I already enabled it globally and searched this list and expert list archives to see if anyone had found a solution, but didn't find any. I do like konqueror better than Netscape, but need to be able to access sites that use stuff like this. Is there really a good reason they have to code stuff so it breaks everything? So far, the only browser I've found that works on Yahoo is Netscape, and its just too slow for normal use. BobC
RE: [newbie] Will U.S. Robotics 56K PCI Performance Pro Modem work with Linux?
The external version wont work with vgetty when i tried it. The sportster modems work fine from what i heard. I wouldn't chance it unless i found someone with it doing exactly what you want to do. I paid $139 for mine and its useless for voice. A $39 Actiontec did work. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Will U.S. Robotics 56K PCI Performance Pro Modem work with Linux? Egghead has the U.S. Robotics 56K PCI Performance Pro Modem on sale. It appears from the description that it is not a winmodem. Can anyone tell me if it will work with Mandrake 7.2?
RE: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo?
The link to "check all" and "delete" in Yahoo email, neither work. You can check off individual emails, but the "Delete Checked" doesn't work at all, even if marked manually. The code appears to be javascript and works under IE 5 and Netscape 4.73. The check all button appears to show "javascript.SetChecked(1)" and does nothing that I can see under konqueror. The "javascript.SetChecked(1)" doesn't appear if you try to search for it in the code, and the code that appears to be running appears to be commented out. But I've heard they use comments to run code that is otherwise invalid on the web, before. Not a good practice, IMHO, as it leads to spaghetti code. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo? The machine is running Mandrake 7.2. Is there a way to fix it? I already enabled it globally and searched this list and expert list archives to see if anyone had found a solution, but didn't find any. I do like konqueror better than Netscape, but need to be able to access sites that use stuff like this. Is there really a good reason they have to code stuff so it breaks everything? So far, the only browser I've found that works on Yahoo is Netscape, and its just too slow for normal use. Bob I can access Yahoo and use all links there-in with konqueror. What is the problem you are having? Are you having a problem with java script or with java? Java script support is built into the browser, where as you must support java by having a jre or jdk package installed on your system which your browser can draw from. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
RE: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo?
Well, I didn't have that "quite" right... I found the code itself. I don't profess to being a great web programmer, and I can't see real well the code, especially since I don't know what its supposed to be. Anyway, in the frame source, there is: a href="javascript:SetChecked(1)"Checknbsp;All/m It appears not to work... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo? The machine is running Mandrake 7.2. Is there a way to fix it? I already enabled it globally and searched this list and expert list archives to see if anyone had found a solution, but didn't find any. I do like konqueror better than Netscape, but need to be able to access sites that use stuff like this. Is there really a good reason they have to code stuff so it breaks everything? So far, the only browser I've found that works on Yahoo is Netscape, and its just too slow for normal use. Bob I can access Yahoo and use all links there-in with konqueror. What is the problem you are having? Are you having a problem with java script or with java? Java script support is built into the browser, where as you must support java by having a jre or jdk package installed on your system which your browser can draw from. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
RE: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo?
I forgot to say, that I'm running the 1.9.8 (using KDE 2.0) version of Konqueror. I read on the expert list that installing java would not help, so I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong or am missing that you have, that makes yours work... Thanks for responding... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Has anyone got Konqueror working for javascript sites like Yahoo? The machine is running Mandrake 7.2. Is there a way to fix it? I already enabled it globally and searched this list and expert list archives to see if anyone had found a solution, but didn't find any. I do like konqueror better than Netscape, but need to be able to access sites that use stuff like this. Is there really a good reason they have to code stuff so it breaks everything? So far, the only browser I've found that works on Yahoo is Netscape, and its just too slow for normal use. Bob I can access Yahoo and use all links there-in with konqueror. What is the problem you are having? Are you having a problem with java script or with java? Java script support is built into the browser, where as you must support java by having a jre or jdk package installed on your system which your browser can draw from. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
[newbie] Dual PIII 600 7.2 install went well
Sometimes things just work. 7.2 Mandrake went on easier (much) than Win/98. Quite a pleasant surprise. I haven't tried the modems, yet, but all the basic stuff went in without a hitch, excepting my 640 x 480 Zenith Flatscreen, which the install code didn't like in combo with my 3D Blaster Savage4 card. I substituted a 1024 x 768 Optiquest 17" while the install was still running and it worked. System config: Gigabyte 6BXDS Dual Pentium MB (with IDE and Dual Adaptec 3895 UW SCSI Channels) 2 - Intel PIII 600's 512 mb SDRAM 2 - Seagate 18xl 5.4 ms UW SCSI 9.1 gb drives (one on each channel) 1 - IBM SCSI CD Boot 1 - Ricoh IDE CDRW MP7040A (not tested, yet) 1 - Motorola ModemSurfr 33.6k Internal Voice Modem 1 - US Robotics 56k Ext Voice Modem Pro (probably won't work), have Actiontec 56k Voice to swap 2 - SMC 10/100 Fast PCI Ethernet cards (from CDW for under $20 ea) 1 - Creative Ensoniq PCI Sound board (not tested) The 2nd Barracuda didn't get partitioned by the install, automatically, but I'm sure thats not major... BobC
RE: [newbie] Problems with adaptec 78xx.... again
I'll let you know if my Dual PIII-600 with Dual UW Adaptec 78xx Onboard controllers has any problem. I plan to load Mandrake 7.2 on it this weekend. I will be Dual Booting with 98, NT4, or Win/2000, to be used for hardware resource info and problem isolation (ie: if hw prob, nether os will work, if sw, 1 might). I'm having problems deciding what to dual boot with, still... The current 7.1 Mandrake box is a single processor and dual boots with Win/95. In some cases Win/95 isn't capable of helping me diagnose problems. I do have to say that once installed and running, with exception of a few bad programs like Netscape and Yahoo messenger, that the Linux box has run fairly well. Getting it installed wasn't easy, but that was mostly problems with the hardware permutations and voice messaging, not the os itself. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erylon Hines Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems with adaptec 78xx again Jorge RamÃrez Llaca wrote: I've sent this one before, but since nobody answered me, here it goes again: I'm trying to install Mandrake 7.2 (to get rid of NT workstation 4.0) but the installer hangs while trying to install the drivers for the SCSI controller. My computer has an ATrend ATC-6260 motherboard with an integrated adaptec 78xx ultra-wide SCSI controller, dual pentium II/400, 2 ethernet cards (one for the cable modem and one for the internal network), a sound card based on Yamaha 724 chipset, and a creative 3d blaster savage 4, 3 x 20 GB IDE HDs, IDE HP CD-RW, SCSI ZIP 100 and 2x 4.5 UW-SCSI HDs The installer detects my SCSI controller but freezes after displaying the message that it's installing the drivers for it. NT doesn't have trouble with those HDs Any opinions? My boxes don't have any problem with that controller, but I only have a CD drive on the ide in one of them, the other is all scsi (that one dual boots NT, by the way). Try pulling the plugs on some stuff to see if the problem goes away (I'd start with the Zip). Linux is much more finicky about borderline hardware than Windows, and it sounds like it might be a hardware problem to me. My scsi cards are not integrated, however, and I've never used dual procs, so I couldn't say if that could be a source of the failure. Not much help, I know.
RE: [newbie] Recruitment Notice
Dear Civileme, I would like to try it too. After I get my new machine running this weekend, I will have the old 7.1 machine available to play with. My linux experience is limited, but I've been programming since the 70's on many platforms and basically live and breathe computers a byte at a time. I have a pretty fast connect, and hopefully my cd burner will work. I bought the deluxe ver of the 7.1 distro, but ended up downloading the 7.2 a week later when it came out. My email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, BobC
RE: [newbie] Installing programs need some help....
Tim, It really depends on the program and your system. I don't have aim, but yahoo's install didn't put anything anywhere, except the executable, which crashes with a core dump when conecting. You didn't say which GUI menu system you are using, so it would be difficult to try to tell you how to get it on the menu. If you are using KDE, it would be easiest to install KDE applications, as generally, they add themselves to the menus (except kexpress). You can add things manually, but they dissapear when you add other things it seems. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Parker Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 5:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Installing programs need some help I just setup Internet Connection sharing on my Win2k machine and started working more with my LM 7.0 box and the internet. I installed an instant messenger clone as something to mess with. Upon installing it (no errors) I can't seem to find it on any menu??? I searched and found a file called aim that i then clicked on and it ran, that can't be right, can it?? tim
RE: [newbie]
LOL, if we could take you off this list, I'm sure all of the Thousands of people you just sent this message to would be happy to. But alas, we are but "newbies" like you, and cannot remove you from the list Only you can do this, just find your way out the same way you got in. Merry Christmas, BobC -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jan cowanSent: Monday, December 25, 2000 10:49 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Take me off this list
RE: [newbie] Installation with older Bios
Check the bios to see if it can use a different method of seeing the HD, such as LBA or Large or Normal, and try all the options. Another possibility is to upgrade the bios. It may be a flash bios that can be upgraded by running a program, or maybe needs a replacement bios chip. BobC -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald MunsonSent: Monday, December 25, 2000 12:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Installation with older Bios I have an older Pentium 90 that will not fully see a 2.1 GB HD. I have formatted the HD cleanly and the BIOS will only see the first 504 MB. I have read in the archives that it is not recommended to install Linux using a HD overlay. Is it possible to install 7.2 and then reformat the remaining portions of the HD to get the full benefit of the 2.1 GB? I would really appreciate any assistance. I don't want to give this up and I don't want to have to buy a new motherboard and components just to install Linux. Don
RE: [newbie] Ping Error
You'd better try explaining it better if you expect any help that might help. Let's dissect it: -Original Message- From: SoloCDM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:00 PM To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie Subject: [newbie] Ping Error Something is seriously wrong with our network. A station with Win9x still believes another workstation exists, even though the other workstation is disconnected. BobC: What other workstation? What was it running? How was it configured? Are they all configured that way? Why are you asking this on a Linux list? When it was connected, I was able to use the other workstation to view the files of the workstation in question. BobC: Which was this? Do they each have a name and IP address? Next, I tried to ping the workstation in question from the server, but it wouldn't work. BobC: Which was this one? What does the server run? Does it have a name and IP address? I tried pinging from the workstation to the server and it wouldn't work. What's wrong? BobC: Many possibilities. Maybe the workstation has no IP address. No ipchains are running. The cables are tightly connected. Could it be the NIC? BobC: Sure, thats poissible... Are all the stations on the segment down? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. * Signed, SoloCDM BobC: No offense, but maybe you need to start by trying simpler things until you learn more. You didn't even say what the error was. The odds are very high this is just a troll post from the looks of it. People at work will pay me to fix that kind of stuff, so I'd better get going...
RE: [newbie] Best way to get identd going in 7.2
install pidentd rpm from the cd. you will need to run identd afterwards. i used a -n parameter. some of the irc nets still won't work and give the identd message, anyway. maybe someone else has soolved that part. my solution will get you on undernet, but i don't thionk it woill work for dalnet. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ChrisK Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Best way to get identd going in 7.2 Which file do I need to configure for identd? ...and what exactly do I need to put there? ChrisK
RE: [newbie] Best way to get identd going in 7.2
btw, if you look in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S35identd it looks like thats what's controlling it, in conjunction with /etc/identd.conf but I'm just a newbie, and basically clueless, so take it with a grain of salt... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ChrisK Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Best way to get identd going in 7.2 Which file do I need to configure for identd? ...and what exactly do I need to put there? ChrisK
RE: [newbie] How do I fix it so I have a normal delete key and copy/paste in a terminal window?
Thanks, yes, your copy/paste worked. Clicking both mouse buttons at the same time pastes. Sad that I've been suffering from not reading the book on that 1 the past month or 2. It doesn't work under mc, but it isn't critical, there, as I know a way to paste filenames, with alt-enter, already. mc is a Godsend to me as compared to gui stuff or a command line. The delete key seems to have a mind of its own. Whether its X, linux, or kconsole, I'm not sure, but this time it works, next time it doesn't, then it will work again another time. I will try a newer version of xterm and when I find a terminal program where the keys work well doing the basics, I'll remove all the others. thanks, BobC -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bob Currey Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I fix it so I have a normal delete key and copy/paste in a terminal window? I don't know how to fix the delete key "feature" (though I'd like to know how), but I do know how to (kind of) solve your copy-paste problem. The trick is that whenever you select any text in X, it is automatically copied to the copy-paste buffer. To paste, click the middle mouse button where you want it. A slight problem with this method is that the data is only copied to the buffer while it is selected. It disappears when you deselect the text. On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:56, Bob Currey wrote: I would like the delete key to work like in DOS where it moves you noplace, and deletes the character under the cursor, shifting the rest to the right one position. The problem occurs when I use terminal programs, and its pretty frustrating when basis things like the keyboard don't work "normally", though not the end of the world. I would also be eternally grateful for the ability to copy and paste into the command line, given the lengths of the filenames, typical, this is very much needed. Affected programs: gnome terminal - clicking swap bs/del doesn't change anything, here, it moves me to the left 1 pos and deletes the character preceding the one the cursor was on. Can't use ctrl-c and ctrl-v to copy and paste. kconsole - delete key works normally, but can't use ctrl-c and ctrl-v to copy and paste... arg! xterm - doesn't work at all - update - Well, I figured out a way, at least partially, so I thought I might post it so others can avoid suffering as well... install mc - midnight commander f9 for top menu, then select options, then go to learn keys, go thru all the keys and then save it. that will fix the delete key. mc allows alt-enter to paste the highlighted filename. Not as good as copy and paste, but at least functional. c ya, BobC Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
RE: [newbie] CABLE MODEM NOT WORKING - DHCP_HOSTNAME in init.d/networkandsbin/ifup
This may be considered sacreligious, but what worked for mine was to bring the same box up under win/95, get it on mediaone, get all the settings, then plug them into the linux netconf. I still lose it on a reboot, but it seems to come back after a few tries of running dhcpcd with no hostname. Take it for what it is, just the observations of a newbie, BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Warwick Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:18 AM To: 'Roger Sherman' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] CABLE MODEM NOT WORKING - DHCP_HOSTNAME in init.d/networkandsbin/ifup h, well, it's not working that way for me. I've been through a bunch of reboot cycles, and no joy. thanks, Richard -Original Message- From: Roger Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:49 PM To: Richard Warwick Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] CABLE MODEM NOT WORKING - DHCP_HOSTNAME in init.d/networkandsbin/ifup Yeah, thats what I'm saying though...once I entered that command, it initialized successfully on subsequent bootups...don't know why, but it did, and continues to... peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719 On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Richard Warwick wrote: Roger, yeah, I've got it to work manually as well - I'm trying to figure out why it isn't working in the standard bootup scripts. - I can hack around the problem, but I'm trying to get some advice on how to fix it properly. Thanks for the response. Richard -Original Message- From: Roger Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 1:39 PM To: Richard Warwick Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CABLE MODEM NOT WORKING - DHCP_HOSTNAME in init.d/networkand sbin/ifup Hi Richard...I had a similar problem - eth0 just refused to initialize on bootup, but I entered this command: /sbin/dhcpcd -d -n -h [hostname] And it would log right in, and log in on bootup most times thereafter. Hope it helps! peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719 On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Richard Warwick wrote: hi, I installed mandrake 7.2 from the iso images, and I'm having trouble with the dhcp client and the normal startup scripts. I think I see what problem might be occurring, but I'm not sure the best way to fix it. I'm on an att cable modem, so my dhcpc command line needs to be something like " dhcpc -h c55-a " where c55-a is the hostname that ATT assigned to me. (I've changed the name to protect the guilty) When I execute that command line manually, everything works just fine. In the normal startup, the dhcp fails because evidently the dhcp hostname is not being passed. I've figured out that the network startup script ( /etc/init.d/network ) calls the ( /sbin/ifup ) script. and the ifup script seems to need the environment variable DHCP_HOSTNAME set in order to have that be included on the dhcpc command line. the line 'DHCP_HOSTNAME=c55-a' is in the file /etc/sysconfig/network which is being read by /etc/init.d/network I added lines to the two main scripts to create a file with the environment variables, set /var/richard and in examining the output, I see the DHCP_HOSTNAME while in /etc/init.d/network, but it is not there while executing /sbin/ifup how do I fix this? has someone else had this problem? is it a bug in the scripts from mandrake? or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Richard Warwick warwickr at usa dot net
Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes)
Yes, the FA310TX will work fine, but the FA311TX and FA312TX are toast, as no drivers work for them. I went to www.skyld.com site and followed the instructions to compile natsemi.c, but got 20 pages of errors. I do know enough to know that there must be someting very basic wrong if you get 20 pages of errors, but don't have a clue what. I imagine the directions make assumptions about what I have installed or something that I (being a linux newbie) wouldn't be aware of. I sent an email to Netgear asking for help and got no response. So much for "Linux" on the box meaning anything. I'm pretty upset about that. BobC - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) I've had great luck with 3com905tx and netegar fa310tx. They use 3c9X.0 and tulip.o respectively. Both worked fine with cable, uselessworst DSL and speakeasy DSL. Bob Currey wrote: By hardware adapter, he means ethernet card. Be very careful which you pick. I have many "supported" ones that didn't work with my cable modem setup on 7.1 and 7.2. I'd suggest an NE2000 PCI clone or 3Com 3C905tx after all I've been through. Intel boards (2) are hopeless, Netgear (2) are hopeless, SMC (1) are hopeless. I ended up buying 4 boards for $5 each after going thru the name brand stuff to no avail. Same boards in same machine worked under Windoze, tried to use same settings under Linux. Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to help you not go buy the same mistakes I have a shelf of. BobC - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) Hardware Adapter??? Mark jack dugas wrote: get the hardware adapter that is supported by linux and you will have no problem. then reinstall the OS and there you will have it . On the internet - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Roger Sherman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) Roger, when you setup eth0 in linuxconf did you check for manual config of your IP, or is it set to dhcp? the default setting is manual. This needs to be set to dhcp. if you're not sure open drakeconf --Network configuration --Basic Host information --Adaptor 1 (tab). 1) make sure "Enable" is ckecked 2) if it is not check Dhcp 3) make sure the correct "primary name + domain" field is filled correctly 4) alias is optional 5) fill in your ip address 6) choose the correct netmask - most likely 255.255.255.0 7) choose the correct type of "Net device" (eth0) 8) click the "accept" button From here close the Network configuration interface and reboot your machine to set everything in motion. O yeah...one more thing. let us know how you make out. -- Mark ...Wisdom begins when the mouth is closed and the palms are turned upward. On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 Roger Sherman had this to say! So, when I installed 7.2 a few days ago, I was thrilled to see it configured my cable modem for me. Yesterday, I decided it was time to install a firewall, which I attempted. It went poorly, so I decided to put it on the shelf til I could talk to someone who knew a bit about it. My roommate wanted to use the PC, and go into WIndows, which he did. Later I booted back into Linux, and saw as it was initializing everything, that eth0 failed to initialize. The reason given was Initializing eth0 - Determining IP information via dhcpcd - failed I figured it was because of my botched firewall attempt, so I uninstalled it, and still nothing. So, since Id just installed everything, and nothing was really tweaked to my liking, I just reinstalled the whole thing. Problem solved, and I was back online. Until I rebooted again - this time with no firewall to muck things up. Same result though, same message. Can anyone tell me how to get back online? I typed in ifconfig, and it didnt tell me anything except that I was offline, I tried to reconfigure my cable setup through DrakeConf - Network and Internet Configuration; it told me it was starting eth0 again, then a minute later it said it was already configured. In a terminal, as su, I typed dhcpcd, but it didnt do anything. Thats it for me, Im a newbie, I have no tricks up my sleeve. So is it possible to dual boot and still be able to initialize eth0 upon booting? Id really h
Re: [newbie] Modem's busy
No offense, Barry, but even though it has a linux driver available, I don't think I'd be suggesting a winmodem to anyone. I think that's just asking for trouble. I'm just a newbi, linux wise, but have read many tales of woe. BobC - Original Message - From: "Barry Allan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Modem's busy Bob Said: "I found an internal modem that works with Linux. It is a "ActionTec 56K Internal PCI Call Waiting Modem". On the box it says it supports Linux and was under $70 at WalMart..." There's another one at www.compgeeks.com - can't remember brand, but they've tested and found it works A-OK. Barry
Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes)
By hardware adapter, he means ethernet card. Be very careful which you pick. I have many "supported" ones that didn't work with my cable modem setup on 7.1 and 7.2. I'd suggest an NE2000 PCI clone or 3Com 3C905tx after all I've been through. Intel boards (2) are hopeless, Netgear (2) are hopeless, SMC (1) are hopeless. I ended up buying 4 boards for $5 each after going thru the name brand stuff to no avail. Same boards in same machine worked under Windoze, tried to use same settings under Linux. Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to help you not go buy the same mistakes I have a shelf of. BobC - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) Hardware Adapter??? Mark jack dugas wrote: get the hardware adapter that is supported by linux and you will have no problem. then reinstall the OS and there you will have it . On the internet - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Roger Sherman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) Roger, when you setup eth0 in linuxconf did you check for manual config of your IP, or is it set to dhcp? the default setting is manual. This needs to be set to dhcp. if you're not sure open drakeconf --Network configuration --Basic Host information --Adaptor 1 (tab). 1) make sure "Enable" is ckecked 2) if it is not check Dhcp 3) make sure the correct "primary name + domain" field is filled correctly 4) alias is optional 5) fill in your ip address 6) choose the correct netmask - most likely 255.255.255.0 7) choose the correct type of "Net device" (eth0) 8) click the "accept" button From here close the Network configuration interface and reboot your machine to set everything in motion. O yeah...one more thing. let us know how you make out. -- Mark ...Wisdom begins when the mouth is closed and the palms are turned upward. On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 Roger Sherman had this to say! So, when I installed 7.2 a few days ago, I was thrilled to see it configured my cable modem for me. Yesterday, I decided it was time to install a firewall, which I attempted. It went poorly, so I decided to put it on the shelf til I could talk to someone who knew a bit about it. My roommate wanted to use the PC, and go into WIndows, which he did. Later I booted back into Linux, and saw as it was initializing everything, that eth0 failed to initialize. The reason given was Initializing eth0 - Determining IP information via dhcpcd - failed I figured it was because of my botched firewall attempt, so I uninstalled it, and still nothing. So, since Id just installed everything, and nothing was really tweaked to my liking, I just reinstalled the whole thing. Problem solved, and I was back online. Until I rebooted again - this time with no firewall to muck things up. Same result though, same message. Can anyone tell me how to get back online? I typed in ifconfig, and it didnt tell me anything except that I was offline, I tried to reconfigure my cable setup through DrakeConf - Network and Internet Configuration; it told me it was starting eth0 again, then a minute later it said it was already configured. In a terminal, as su, I typed dhcpcd, but it didnt do anything. Thats it for me, Im a newbie, I have no tricks up my sleeve. So is it possible to dual boot and still be able to initialize eth0 upon booting? Id really hate to think I might have to reinstall Linux a couple times a week if I want to be online, but at the same time, I want nothing to do with Windows anymore, and am considering making this PC strictly a Linux box. Problem being, if I get knocked offline like that, then I have to reinstall Windows to get help. Help!!! peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= **
Re: [newbie] Network Card Woes
Were it me, I'd pull the sound card and check what IRQ the ethernet board is on, and then go specify the IRQ in the hardware config drake. But I'm as clueless as any, I guess... BobC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:36 PM Subject: [newbie] Network Card Woes Hi list, I have been running two boxes for a while, one Mandrake and one Windows. I use the Mandrake box for www, mail, gateway, etc. and the Windows one for work stuff. I use Samba, port forwarding, with no difficulties at all. I recently added a new harddrive to my Windows machine, and turned it into a dual boot so I could have a "test" platform for Linux. Unfortunately, I can't get my network card running. I also can't get the sound card to work. Is it possible they are in conflict? (I don't really care about the sound...) I have tried a static assignment (ie. 192.168.0.1, dhcpcd, and pump), but it seems that the error is more basic. Heres a sample of boot messages, can anyone suggest what to do? (I never had this problem on the other box!) I am running a Celeron @ 450, on a 440Bx motherboard, network card is a generic, SoundCard EssSolo, Mandrake 7.2. Sample below. TIA Bill --snip Nov 18 10:13:17 Bill1 init: Entering runlevel: 5 Nov 18 10:13:18 Bill1 harddrake: succeeded Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 kudzu: succeeded Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/alsa/snd-card-es1938.o: Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 modprobe: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 modprobe: init_module: Device or resource busy Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/alsa/snd-card-es1938.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/alsa/snd-card-es1938.o failed Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/alsa/snd-card-es1938.o: insmod snd-card-es1938 failed Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 sound: Loading sound module (snd-card-es1938) failed Nov 18 10:13:28 Bill1 network: Setting network parameters: succeeded Nov 18 10:13:29 Bill1 network: Bringing up interface lo: succeeded Nov 18 10:13:29 Bill1 insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter parm_irq Nov 18 10:13:29 Bill1 ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization. Nov 18 10:13:29 Bill1 network: Bringing up interface eth0: failed Nov 18 10:13:29 Bill1 portmap: portmap startup succeeded --snip
Re: [newbie] 7.2 - hardware problem?
I suppose you know there are issues on the Mandrake site about that particular Adaptec card? I went thru 3 or 4 controllers and a buch of drives trying to get installed on 7.1. Twas a PITA and I ended up needing to use my live system rather than the old POS I have hoped to make use of. The Adaptec was one I didn't try, even though I have one, because of the warning. good luck, BobC - Original Message - From: "Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 8:29 PM Subject: [newbie] 7.2 - hardware problem? Hi, I have had nothing but problems trying to get this program installed and running. Do I not have enough hard disk space? Does anything else about this configuration look questionable? Dell Optiplex DGX 5166 Pentium (r) 166MHz 64MB RAM EISA BUS SCSI HD ST31230N 1010MB and NEC CD-ROM 502 w/ Adaptec AHA-2940 controller (card) and Symbios Logic 53C810 controller (on board) ATI Graphic Pro PCI display adapter atim64-GX 15" Digital monitor PCXBV-HZ Thanks for any ideas, help, or web sites to check out. Robert Oscar Wilde observed: "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends upon the unreasonable man."
Re: [newbie] IDENTD problems.....
If you go look at the packages on the CD, you will find Identd. Install it, then run it. It solved that problem for me. I used a -n parameter as I recall. BobC - Original Message - From: "Cannibul_VI" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: [newbie] IDENTD problems. I am running 7.1 and having a real problem. I have the box setup to IP Masq on my DSL line. And I can't connect to IRC servers due to IdentD problems. Anyone have a way around this?
Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes)
Similar troubles, here, but I have many more. In general, it seems running Windoze and a reboot causes all changes to be lost, and boot errors on the ethernet card. I suspect I don't know where to make the changes properly to cause them to work after a reboot. I was doing all sorts of commands by hand to try to get things to run. I bet you did too. If I knew what the correct ones all were, and their correct sequence, I still wouldn't know where to put them in a startup type script, or what startup type script to put them in. Once upon a time, I worked on an SCO Unix box that I had to modify an init.d file in /etc if I recall correctly (was 10 yrs ago). I also suspect that the ISP sees the machine differently even though the MAC address is the same, and maybe doesn't like the change, thus causing the "Failed" crap on boot. Maybe powering off the Cable Modem for a few minutes before the reboot into Linux would help. I'm so discouraged at this point, I haven't booted the Linux in a week, pondering what to try next. FYI, don't bother trying a Broadband router (instead of a Linux router box) if you plan to use IRC, as they don't provide Identd, so you can't get on any servers. I guess I'll keep trying to get the Linux running. I'll be damned if I'll go buy Wingate and suffer permanently in the land of MS. And I pray I needn't install a Backoffice server to solve this, either. It would be disheartening to have to do so. good luck, BobC - Original Message - From: "Roger Sherman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:26 PM Subject: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) So, when I installed 7.2 a few days ago, I was thrilled to see it configured my cable modem for me. Yesterday, I decided it was time to install a firewall, which I attempted. It went poorly, so I decided to put it on the shelf til I could talk to someone who knew a bit about it. My roommate wanted to use the PC, and go into WIndows, which he did. Later I booted back into Linux, and saw as it was initializing everything, that eth0 failed to initialize. The reason given was Initializing eth0 - Determining IP information via dhcpcd - failed I figured it was because of my botched firewall attempt, so I uninstalled it, and still nothing. So, since Id just installed everything, and nothing was really tweaked to my liking, I just reinstalled the whole thing. Problem solved, and I was back online. Until I rebooted again - this time with no firewall to muck things up. Same result though, same message. Can anyone tell me how to get back online? I typed in ifconfig, and it didnt tell me anything except that I was offline, I tried to reconfigure my cable setup through DrakeConf - Network and Internet Configuration; it told me it was starting eth0 again, then a minute later it said it was already configured. In a terminal, as su, I typed dhcpcd, but it didnt do anything. Thats it for me, Im a newbie, I have no tricks up my sleeve. So is it possible to dual boot and still be able to initialize eth0 upon booting? Id really hate to think I might have to reinstall Linux a couple times a week if I want to be online, but at the same time, I want nothing to do with Windows anymore, and am considering making this PC strictly a Linux box. Problem being, if I get knocked offline like that, then I have to reinstall Windows to get help. Help!!! peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com
