[newbie] 2 questions on Mandrake Move 2.0
I downloaded and burned the iso image for Mandrake Move 2.0 last night. Everything runs fine, except that it takes considerable time for Konqueror to find websites. Any ideas? Also, I have a 256 meg usb jump drive. Is ther a way, and if so how, to save my settings on it so that I don't have to setup a new user each time, etc. The reason that I am doing this is that I travel and the laptop is issued by the company and I am not supposed to have any non-work related stuff on it. Running through Mandrake and the jump drive would allow me to stayed synced with my home mail and web development without fear of interfering with the laptop. The laptop uses ntfs, so its write protected under Mandrke Move. Any help would be appreciated. -- Christopher Taylor - Registered Linux User #383327 If this message is sent to a mailing list please 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 2 Questions regarding evolution
Hi all, I do have two questions regarding the evolution 2.0.3 and I haven't found an answer on the mailinglist or faqs yet. 1. Kmail has the option to set up various smtp settings independently for the mail accounts. Pmail (Pegasus) offers the same option but in evolution I have to change the smtp settings each time when I use a different internet connection. Is the any possibility to install a number of different smtp servers? 2. Forwarding emails including attachement? Haven't found the option to turn this on. It's annoying to save each time the attachements when I have to forward an email including them. Thanks for the help, Alex Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 2 questions about web server
At 10:45 PM 07/31/2001 -0400, Jon Doe wrote: 1. How do I get password protected site going? I know I need htaccess and htpasswd files? How do I make them and where do I put them? You need three files... These are .htaccess (in the directory you wish to protect, which also protects all subdirectories off of that directory), htpasswd and htgroup (which should be in /var/www). They should look like: .htaccess deny from all AuthName WhateverYouWant AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /var/www/htpasswd AuthGroupFile /var/www/htgroup require group groupname require user username1, username2, etc satisfy any htgroup groupname: username1, username2, etc The htpasswd file is generated by /usr/bin/htpasswd. To create it, do 'htpasswd -c htpasswd username1' (from /var/www, and without the quotes). This will create the file, and add username1 to it. 2. I would like people to be able to upload files to my computer. How do I go about that? This depends on whether you want an ftp upload, or a web upload. If you want an ftp upload, you can setup an anonymous ftp server with an incoming directory. For a web upload, you'll have to do a search somewhere like freshmeat.net to see if any web upload software is available (either perl or php). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
RE: [newbie] 2 questions about web server
don't know if this has been answered yet.. if you want to upload files to your linux box... get a browser, point it at a search engine, and try typing upload, or uploader or any other variations, there are alot of perl cgi scripts that do just that, all the newer ones are based on CGI.pm the older ones are probably cgi-lib.pl horses for courses. as for the .htaccess and ptpasswd files, put them in the highest directory you want to protect, (say for example that you want to protect /var/www/html/secured and every directory below it... then thats where you put the files.. then you need to run the actual file that creates the file, here is an exerpt of the user instructions from one of mine. type: htpasswd manager.access your_user_name #where manager.access is the file that you want to contain the username/passwords The server should respond with... Adding user your_user_name New password: (you'll type your password) Re-type new password: (you'll type it again :-)) Thats all there is to it,, IF your apache is setup to use them. (you might need to configure that.) give it a shot rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Doe Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2 questions about web server 1. How do I get password protected site going? I know I need htaccess and htpasswd files? How do I make them and where do I put them? 2. I would like people to be able to upload files to my computer. How do I go about that?
[newbie] 2 questions about web server
1. How do I get password protected site going? I know I need htaccess and htpasswd files? How do I make them and where do I put them? 2. I would like people to be able to upload files to my computer. How do I go about that?
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Wayne wrote: Hey all, I am just getting back into linux after getting sick of yet another flavour of windows and have a few questions. First of all I can only get mdk7.2 to recognise 64MB of memory. I know this is asked regulalry but after checking the archives I can't find any references to this. I have tried adding append mem=128M to lilo and then running lilo, but can't get it to work. Wayne, did you try it this way append="mem=128" and, of course, this must be done as root. Then run /sbin/lilo as root. HTH, Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
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Wayne Alexander wrote: Hey all, I am just getting back into linux after getting sick of yet another flavour of windows and have a few questions. First of all I can only get mdk7.2 to recognise 64MB of memory. I know this is asked regulalry but after checking the archives I can't find any references to this. I have tried adding append mem=128M to lilo and then running lilo, but can't get it to work. Second of all, I have a studio pc tv rave card, and every time I try to run kwintv, I can't use any of the buttons for tuning etc, and sometimes the app crashes altogether. I have tried other tv apps and I have the same problem with them all. I would really appreciate any help anyone can give as my system is running like a dog with only64MB of memory. Thanks, Wayne _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Yes, but I ran a Customized installation and selected Development. I have 128 MB. of RAM show up with no problem. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Powered By the Tux Email Creator
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Anthony wrote: 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer As in use Kmail to send email from Konquerer? Mine is set up like that from installation. 2. what is magellan I'm pretty sure that it is the next generation of Kmail, and is supposed to be like Outlook for Linux. Basically it's a really good mail client that is still in extreme beta, if it is even still being worked on. -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit. thanks
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Mark Weaver wrote: Patrick, If I remember correctly Magellan was/is a lightweight Konquerer type browser based on the Mozilla "gecko" rendering engine. I'm not sure if it ever really got out of the beta stage. For a while there was a lot of talk about it, but then as the release of mandrake 7.2 came closer and closer much of the browser talk shifted towards Konquerer. I've tried it and it is lightweight, but very feature limited and somewhat unstable after a short time running. As far as combining kmail with Konquerer all I can say is...why? Why would you want to? One is for browsing the net and the other is for reading/sending email and corresponding with the newsgroups. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 patrick had this to say! i was just wanting to dock the icon in konquer. i was also just curious about majellan i am sticking with Konquerer by all means. its the best and getting better i have 2 questions. 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer and 2. what is magellan
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Patrick, If I remember correctly Magellan was/is a lightweight Konquerer type browser based on the Mozilla "gecko" rendering engine. I'm not sure if it ever really got out of the beta stage. For a while there was a lot of talk about it, but then as the release of mandrake 7.2 came closer and closer much of the browser talk shifted towards Konquerer. I've tried it and it is lightweight, but very feature limited and somewhat unstable after a short time running. As far as combining kmail with Konquerer all I can say is...why? Why would you want to? One is for browsing the net and the other is for reading/sending email and corresponding with the newsgroups. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 patrick had this to say! i have 2 questions. 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer and 2. what is magellan
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
On Thursday 30 November 2000 02:27, you wrote: 2. what is magellan I'm pretty sure that it is the next generation of Kmail, and is supposed to be like Outlook for Linux. Basically it's a really good mail client that is still in extreme beta, if it is even still being worked on. It's not the next generation kmail, kmail is a mail-only program while Magellan is more like Outlook. You can compare them to eudora vs. outlook. KMail will still be developed, no doubt about that. -- \ Christian A Strømmen / \ Number1/NumeroUno @ Undernet - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Web: www.realityx.net - Cell: +47 911 43 948 / Live your life by your dreams, not by the limits of reality...
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer As in use Kmail to send email from Konquerer? Mine is set up like that from installation. 2. what is magellan I'm pretty sure that it is the next generation of Kmail, and is supposed to be like Outlook for Linux. Basically it's a really good mail client that is still in extreme beta, if it is even still being worked on. -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
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Hi, I've tried many times to install linux on my compaq presario laptop model 1237. the most success i've had is very limited. now, I'm stuck at aurora in the boot process. please help... melanie On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Anthony wrote: 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer As in use Kmail to send email from Konquerer? Mine is set up like that from installation. 2. what is magellan I'm pretty sure that it is the next generation of Kmail, and is supposed to be like Outlook for Linux. Basically it's a really good mail client that is still in extreme beta, if it is even still being worked on. -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
[newbie] 2 questions
i have 2 questions. 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer and 2. what is magellan -- Love is all u need, and a little Linux too for good measure
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Alexanderh, well no I guess it doesn't any longer. I used CDE once, a while back, just to try it out (it was one of the choices on the KDE gui login) and since I've been strictly a Mandrake user for over a year and a half, I assumed that it was on one of the versions of Mandrake that I've run since version 5.2 that I found CDE and tried it out. Besides that, I further assumed that they wouldn't quit including it on the newer versions, but it is definately not on my 7.1 installation, so sorry for the bad assumption. :-( Alan Alexander Skwar wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 04:36:53PM -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote: DanCDE in probably already installed on your system, if not it's on your installation CD. Really? Mandrake ships CDE? Remember, we're talking *C*de, not *K*de here! Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
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I was just curious about CDE. I've seen it on a Solaris machine before, and figured that it would be an interesting experiment. And no, Mandrake does NOT ship with CDE. You're probably right, if it is avaliable for Linux, it certanily is no provided as open source. Oh well. Dan
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 05:18:34PM -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Alexanderh, well no I guess it doesn't any longer. I used CDE once, a while back, just to try it out (it was one of CDE was available for Linux? I really didn't know that, and would like to apologize if my words seemed to harsh. Thanks for the info. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
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Philthanks!!! Now I don't feel so crazy! xfce is the cde clone I knew I'd tried on a past version of Mandrake! Phew! I'm not completely nuts! :-) Alan Phil Burton wrote: You should give xfce a try. It is reputed (by those who also use CDE at work) to be very CDE-like. http://www.xfce.org and on your friendly Mandrake disks. Phil On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Daniel J. Ferris wrote: I was just curious about CDE. I've seen it on a Solaris machine before, and figured that it would be an interesting experiment. And no, Mandrake does NOT ship with CDE. You're probably right, if it is avaliable for Linux, it certanily is no provided as open source. Oh well. Dan
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Alexanderhey, don't feel bad, since my info wasn't totally accurate. A fellow named Phil Burton just pointed out that the program I was remembering was a CDE work/look-a-like called xfce, which, by the way, is still on the (extended) installation CD in version 7.1! Alan Alexander Skwar wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 05:18:34PM -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Alexanderh, well no I guess it doesn't any longer. I used CDE once, a while back, just to try it out (it was one of CDE was available for Linux? I really didn't know that, and would like to apologize if my words seemed to harsh. Thanks for the info. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
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Alexander Skwar wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 05:18:34PM -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Alexanderh, well no I guess it doesn't any longer. I used CDE once, a while back, just to try it out (it was one of CDE was available for Linux? I really didn't know that, and would like to apologize if my words seemed to harsh. Thanks for the info. Alexander Skwar I found out that there is a CDE avaliable for Linux. It is from a Denver based company that I don't remember the name of. It comes with an accellerated 3D X-server, and costs $200 :-) Dan
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On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 04:36:53PM -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote: DanCDE in probably already installed on your system, if not it's on your installation CD. Really? Mandrake ships CDE? Remember, we're talking *C*de, not *K*de here! Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
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On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 11:10:28AM -0600, Dan Ferris wrote: I have 2 simple and unrelated questions 1. Where can I go to download the 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73, and ssh? See linux-mandrake.com - crypto. 2. Purely for nostalgia, and simple curiosity, is there a place that one can go to download packages for CDE??? I know that sunfreeware.com maybe? But they won't run on your setup, because CDE is proprietary and not available for Linux (or is it?). But it is certainly not available for free, that's for sure. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
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Dan Ferris écrivit : [...] Where can I get Mandrake Specific packages for the 128 bit version of Netscape, Here : http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fcrypto.php3 since the files from Netscape itself gives a bus error when run. It's normal with package from Netscape. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com PARIS, FRANCE --David
[newbie] 2 questions
I have 2 simple and unrelated questions 1. Where can I go to download the 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73, and ssh? 2. Purely for nostalgia, and simple curiosity, is there a place that one can go to download packages for CDE??? I know that Gnome and KDE are probably way better, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me here. :-) Dan
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DanCDE in probably already installed on your system, if not it's on your installation CD. For the 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73, and ssh go here and pick a mirror site: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fcrypto.php3 Alan Dan Ferris wrote: I have 2 simple and unrelated questions 1. Where can I go to download the 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73, and ssh? 2. Purely for nostalgia, and simple curiosity, is there a place that one can go to download packages for CDE??? I know that Gnome and KDE are probably way better, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me here. :-) Dan
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I opened netscape and got it from their update site..not on the first page...need to go further...I believe it was on the ftp server section. However, there is a crypto site for Mandrake where you can get it too... too late for me..but you could get it. Can someone give the URL for it, please. Bambi Dan Ferris wrote: I have 2 simple and unrelated questions 1. Where can I go to download the 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73, and ssh? 2. Purely for nostalgia, and simple curiosity, is there a place that one can go to download packages for CDE??? I know that Gnome and KDE are probably way better, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me here. :-) Dan
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Denis HAVLIK wrote: LOL! Anyway, AFAIK the 1024 cyls limit for LILO is non-issue as of 7.1 beta. It took a long time to fix this stupid problem, but it is gone at last! cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Amen -- Joseph S. Gardner Director of Manufacturing Handi Krafts www.handi-krafts.com Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Civileme wrote: :~Well, we are hitting limits. Some problems occur with linux :~(minor ones to be sure) when the "time since last boot" counter :~wraps around. It is only 32 bits, after all, so it happens at :~about 490 days uptime. LOL! Anyway, AFAIK the 1024 cyls limit for LILO is non-issue as of 7.1 beta. It took a long time to fix this stupid problem, but it is gone at last! cu Desni -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
There is a driver for the Promise Card, but it must be used post-install, The install kernel does not support Ultra DMA Mode 4 (ATA/66). Just a quick note about this.. That is a true statement about it being a post-install, but that does not mean you can not connect your hard drive to the ATA/66 controller when you first begin your installation. All you need to do is pass the ide information to linux on the boot prompt before installation begins.
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Hey...thanks, I'll probably attempt to move my Windows partition... Steve In a message dated 04/23/2000 10:50:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stevewhat is it you don't understand about the error messages you've received from the BootMagic installation? As a guess I'd probably go with #1 as the reason. Which is that your windows partition (the one that you're trying to install BootMagic on) is larger than 8 meg (8 meg on today's drives, is the size that corresponds with the 1024 cylinder limit), so BootMagic cannot (will not) install. One solution is to shrink your windows partition down to around 8 meg (so that it ends on the 1023rd cylinder or less). Or alternately, you could move your windows partition a little bit so that there's some free space at the beginning of your drive and make a dos partition (fat16), install dos, and install the dos version of BootMagic. I have a drive like this, it contains a 200 meg dos partition at the very beginning of the drive (with dos versions of Partition Magic and BootMagic installed) and then two different distro's of Linux. The other reason (#2 BootMagic already installed on a hidden partition) is far less likely to be the cause. Concerning the ATA/66 controller, I've no experience with it. I do believe that there is a solution though, I'm just unfamiliar with it. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy"
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Stevewhat is it you don't understand about the error messages you've received from the BootMagic installation? As a guess I'd probably go with #1 as the reason. Which is that your windows partition (the one that you're trying to install BootMagic on) is larger than 8 meg (8 meg on today's drives, is the size that corresponds with the 1024 cylinder limit), so BootMagic cannot (will not) install. One solution is to shrink your windows partition down to around 8 meg (so that it ends on the 1023rd cylinder or less). Or alternately, you could move your windows partition a little bit so that there's some free space at the beginning of your drive and make a dos partition (fat16), install dos, and install the dos version of BootMagic. I have a drive like this, it contains a 200 meg dos partition at the very beginning of the drive (with dos versions of Partition Magic and BootMagic installed) and then two different distro's of Linux. The other reason (#2 BootMagic already installed on a hidden partition) is far less likely to be the cause. Concerning the ATA/66 controller, I've no experience with it. I do believe that there is a solution though, I'm just unfamiliar with it. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy" Steve, There is a driver for the Promise Card, but it must be used post-install, The install kernel does not support Ultra DMA Mode 4 (ATA/66). There are various reasons for this, but the largest one looming is that the advanced pentium code has uncovered all sorts of timing flaws in big name brand drives, and they will destroy your data reliably or give you "lost interrupt" errors running under 586 code and Ultra-66. Your IBM dirve is one of the few and the rare that have the timing right to the specifications. The trick on the Boot Magic is to make a small partition (like 10 Mb) below the 8Gb limit of the 1024 cylinder limitation of BIOS code and call it /boot. Mandrake will install the kernel there for booting and point to root directory from there. Then Boot Magic can see the boot area for linux. The partition must be of file type ext2 (standard linux). If you have a huge Windows partition, then you will need to use a tool to reduce it or split it or move it up the disk enough to get the /boot partition the first 1024 cylinders. Civileme
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Stevewhoops! Also make sure you have both the 2 floppy recovery disc set for Partiton Magic and the BootMagic recovery floppy made up and standing by in case you screw up. Alan Alan Shoemaker wrote: Stevebe real careful. With a windows partition on the same drive, this solution takes a lot of fooling around to get the new dos partition to allow you to install dos on it, then afterwards to both boot properly, and allow the windows partition to boot properly. You will also need to install the correct drivers to allow your cdrom to work in dos. Things can get real confusing. Be sure you're ready, read both the PM and BM manuals thoroughly first. Make sure you understand what they are saying. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey...thanks, I'll probably attempt to move my Windows partition... Steve In a message dated 04/23/2000 10:50:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stevewhat is it you don't understand about the error messages you've received from the BootMagic installation? As a guess I'd probably go with #1 as the reason. Which is that your windows partition (the one that you're trying to install BootMagic on) is larger than 8 meg (8 meg on today's drives, is the size that corresponds with the 1024 cylinder limit), so BootMagic cannot (will not) install. One solution is to shrink your windows partition down to around 8 meg (so that it ends on the 1023rd cylinder or less). Or alternately, you could move your windows partition a little bit so that there's some free space at the beginning of your drive and make a dos partition (fat16), install dos, and install the dos version of BootMagic. I have a drive like this, it contains a 200 meg dos partition at the very beginning of the drive (with dos versions of Partition Magic and BootMagic installed) and then two different distro's of Linux. The other reason (#2 BootMagic already installed on a hidden partition) is far less likely to be the cause. Concerning the ATA/66 controller, I've no experience with it. I do believe that there is a solution though, I'm just unfamiliar with it. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy"
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install (possible soln)
Could I just install another IDE Drive? Like a 6GB or something? Would that eliminate all this fuss? Steve
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Civilemeyou are of course correct about the need for a Linux /boot partition under the 1024 cylinder limit (oops, I got so involved in the BootMagic question I failed to note the need for a Linux /boot partition). But, BootMagic also needs to be installed on a dos/windows (not ntfs) partition that ends before the 1024 cylinder limit, else it will refuse to install. Alan Civileme wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Stevewhat is it you don't understand about the error messages you've received from the BootMagic installation? As a guess I'd probably go with #1 as the reason. Which is that your windows partition (the one that you're trying to install BootMagic on) is larger than 8 meg (8 meg on today's drives, is the size that corresponds with the 1024 cylinder limit), so BootMagic cannot (will not) install. One solution is to shrink your windows partition down to around 8 meg (so that it ends on the 1023rd cylinder or less). Or alternately, you could move your windows partition a little bit so that there's some free space at the beginning of your drive and make a dos partition (fat16), install dos, and install the dos version of BootMagic. I have a drive like this, it contains a 200 meg dos partition at the very beginning of the drive (with dos versions of Partition Magic and BootMagic installed) and then two different distro's of Linux. The other reason (#2 BootMagic already installed on a hidden partition) is far less likely to be the cause. Concerning the ATA/66 controller, I've no experience with it. I do believe that there is a solution though, I'm just unfamiliar with it. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy" Steve, There is a driver for the Promise Card, but it must be used post-install, The install kernel does not support Ultra DMA Mode 4 (ATA/66). There are various reasons for this, but the largest one looming is that the advanced pentium code has uncovered all sorts of timing flaws in big name brand drives, and they will destroy your data reliably or give you "lost interrupt" errors running under 586 code and Ultra-66. Your IBM dirve is one of the few and the rare that have the timing right to the specifications. The trick on the Boot Magic is to make a small partition (like 10 Mb) below the 8Gb limit of the 1024 cylinder limitation of BIOS code and call it /boot. Mandrake will install the kernel there for booting and point to root directory from there. Then Boot Magic can see the boot area for linux. The partition must be of file type ext2 (standard linux). If you have a huge Windows partition, then you will need to use a tool to reduce it or split it or move it up the disk enough to get the /boot partition the first 1024 cylinders. Civileme
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Quick question...why was this so painless on the last system I installed Linux on? (also the first) I thought it got easier? In a message dated 04/24/2000 12:12:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Civilemeyou are of course correct about the need for a Linux /boot partition under the 1024 cylinder limit (oops, I got so involved in the BootMagic question I failed to note the need for a Linux /boot partition). But, BootMagic also needs to be installed on a dos/windows (not ntfs) partition that ends before the 1024 cylinder limit, else it will refuse to install.
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install (possible soln)
Steveif you want to use BootMagic as your multi-os boot manager then you will have to deal with the 1024 cylinder limit as long as your primary master hard drive is larger than 8 gig. Of course you can elect to use lilo (part of Linux) as your multi-os boot manager instaed of BootMagic and avoid Bootmagic's installation limitations completely. If you choose to use lilo and install a 6 gig drive as your primary slave and dedicate it to Linux then yes, all the fuss we've been discussing will be avoided. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could I just install another IDE Drive? Like a 6GB or something? Would that eliminate all this fuss? Steve
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Steveyou tell me, you know what the differences are between that machine and this one, I do not. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question...why was this so painless on the last system I installed Linux on? (also the first) I thought it got easier? In a message dated 04/24/2000 12:12:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Civilemeyou are of course correct about the need for a Linux /boot partition under the 1024 cylinder limit (oops, I got so involved in the BootMagic question I failed to note the need for a Linux /boot partition). But, BootMagic also needs to be installed on a dos/windows (not ntfs) partition that ends before the 1024 cylinder limit, else it will refuse to install.
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question...why was this so painless on the last system I installed Linux on? (also the first) I thought it got easier? In a message dated 04/24/2000 12:12:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Civilemeyou are of course correct about the need for a Linux /boot partition under the 1024 cylinder limit (oops, I got so involved in the BootMagic question I failed to note the need for a Linux /boot partition). But, BootMagic also needs to be installed on a dos/windows (not ntfs) partition that ends before the 1024 cylinder limit, else it will refuse to install. LOL Bet it had a disk that today would be considered tiny. Look at your system. It's a freakin' fire-breathing behemoth! Well when ENIAC was created (a vacuum tube computer that was reprogrammed by rewiring), the "experts" who created it speculated that FOUR of them would satisfy the World's Computational Needs. You can beat ENIAC with a programmable calculator! And when the PC was made with the weak 8088 (couldn't beat a decent Z80 implementation), some engineer at IBM decided the PC-BIOS needed only a 10-bit number for cylinder, because 1024 cylinder disks weren't anywhere at the time, and 20 Mb was HUGE. Most microcomputer proggies ran in 64K of memory and many were wondering what to do with "all that room" in the 640K potential of the PC. Even a youngster named Bill thought no one would need more than 640K to run a program Well, we are hitting limits. Some problems occur with linux (minor ones to be sure) when the "time since last boot" counter wraps around. It is only 32 bits, after all, so it happens at about 490 days uptime. Expect more problems rather than less as we chase the quantum limits of this technology. Civileme
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
I ran into the same thing on mine. It was the size of my win98 partition. Set your first partition down to about 7.5 gigs and the others will install. You need to have your boot partition in the first 1023 cylinders, under 8 gigs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy"
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Anyone running a "newer" Gateway or Dell may have problems patitioning the h/d...They both have hidden partitions that contain the o/s. as far as I know there is no easy way around it...may have to check with the mfr. on this...I know for a fact that Dell uses hidden parts...(~500 meg) on their drives... Regards, Don Richard Bonebrake wrote: I ran into the same thing on mine. It was the size of my win98 partition. Set your first partition down to about 7.5 gigs and the others will install. You need to have your boot partition in the first 1023 cylinders, under 8 gigs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy"
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Just out of curiosity...what is contained in these hidden partitions?? Jaguar Don Macy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone running a "newer" Gateway or Dell may have problems patitioning the h/d...They both have hidden partitions that contain the o/s. as far as I know there is no easy way around it...may have to check with the mfr. on this...I know for a fact that Dell uses hidden parts...(~500 meg) on their drives... Regards, Don Richard Bonebrake wrote: I ran into the same thing on mine. It was the size of my win98 partition. Set your first partition down to about 7.5 gigs and the others will install. You need to have your boot partition in the first 1023 cylinders, under 8 gigs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy" The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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For all of you talking about these hidden partitions. Once you figure out what they are can you let me know? Thanx - Original Message - From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install] Just out of curiosity...what is contained in these hidden partitions?? Jaguar Don Macy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone running a "newer" Gateway or Dell may have problems patitioning the h/d...They both have hidden partitions that contain the o/s. as far as I know there is no easy way around it...may have to check with the mfr. on this...I know for a fact that Dell uses hidden parts...(~500 meg) on their drives... Regards, Don Richard Bonebrake wrote: I ran into the same thing on mine. It was the size of my win98 partition. Set your first partition down to about 7.5 gigs and the others will install. You need to have your boot partition in the first 1023 cylinders, under 8 gigs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy" The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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They store the restore/recovery info in the hidden parts...Dell says you can't change it... Jaguar wrote: Just out of curiosity...what is contained in these hidden partitions?? Jaguar Don Macy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone running a "newer" Gateway or Dell may have problems patitioning the h/d...They both have hidden partitions that contain the o/s. as far as I know there is no easy way around it...may have to check with the mfr. on this...I know for a fact that Dell uses hidden parts...(~500 meg) on their drives... Regards, Don Richard Bonebrake wrote: I ran into the same thing on mine. It was the size of my win98 partition. Set your first partition down to about 7.5 gigs and the others will install. You need to have your boot partition in the first 1023 cylinders, under 8 gigs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy" The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
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Civilme, In light of what you say below, would you say that IBM drives are better than names like Maxtor or Western Digital? Mike Civileme wrote: (snip) Steve, There is a driver for the Promise Card, but it must be used post-install, The install kernel does not support Ultra DMA Mode 4 (ATA/66). There are various reasons for this, but the largest one looming is that the advanced pentium code has uncovered all sorts of timing flaws in big name brand drives, and they will destroy your data reliably or give you "lost interrupt" errors running under 586 code and Ultra-66. Your IBM dirve is one of the few and the rare that have the timing right to the specifications. Civileme -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] 2 Questions about install....
Stevewhat is it you don't understand about the error messages you've received from the BootMagic installation? As a guess I'd probably go with #1 as the reason. Which is that your windows partition (the one that you're trying to install BootMagic on) is larger than 8 meg (8 meg on today's drives, is the size that corresponds with the 1024 cylinder limit), so BootMagic cannot (will not) install. One solution is to shrink your windows partition down to around 8 meg (so that it ends on the 1023rd cylinder or less). Or alternately, you could move your windows partition a little bit so that there's some free space at the beginning of your drive and make a dos partition (fat16), install dos, and install the dos version of BootMagic. I have a drive like this, it contains a 200 meg dos partition at the very beginning of the drive (with dos versions of Partition Magic and BootMagic installed) and then two different distro's of Linux. The other reason (#2 BootMagic already installed on a hidden partition) is far less likely to be the cause. Concerning the ATA/66 controller, I've no experience with it. I do believe that there is a solution though, I'm just unfamiliar with it. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First I'll state my current system configuration: Gateway 700MHz PIII, 192MB PC100, IBM DeskStar 27.4GB running on Promise PCI ATA/66 Controller Card, 32MB nVidia GeForce 256, Soundblaster Live! I am currently running into two problems during installation of Mandrake 7.0. The First: After partitioning my drive using Partition Magic to a 4.084GB partition for Linux, I try to install BootMagic. The intallation within Windows gives me an error message to the effect of: BootMagic Installation cannot complete because: 1. There is no FAT16 or FAT32 partition available under the 1024 cylinder or, 2. BootMagic is already installed on a hidden partition. Any ideas? The Second, more important problem: When running the DrakX installation utillity from CD-ROM I get to the drive mounting point, only to find that Linux is not recognizing my drive (I suspect this is because my hdd is running from the ATA/66 Controller) I have tried all the drivers listed and none of them will work. Also I found some instructions geared for Red Hat 6.1 where you enter "text" at the boot: prompt and make changes manually. Mandrake 7 gives me the message, unable to locate kernel image "text". Is anyone willing to give me detailed instructions on how to fix this? I have never even seen Linux running except for screenshots, so please explain in plain terms. Thanks very much! Steve Gillson "DJ Phrenzy"
Re: [newbie] 2 questions for you
Cory Hirano wrote: Hello there] I have two questions 1st How do I uninstall a desktop replacements? because I want to upgrade to the latest version of IceWM but it conflicts with the "light" version already installed. 2nd how do I install the isapnp file needed to install Lothar so I can upgrade to the latest version? Cory rpm -e IceWM Might get rid of it. You might want to use --replacefiles or --replacepkgs on an update or install instead. I think isapnp stuff is installed by default. You just need to make the file. Check for it: whereis isapnp whereis isadump I don't know the name of the rpm, but it should be somewhere on the cd under the RPMS directory. rpm -ivh whateverthenameis
[newbie] 2 questions for you
Hello there] I have two questions 1st How do I uninstall a desktop replacements? because I want to upgrade to the latest version of IceWM but it conflicts with the "light" version already installed. 2nd how do I install the isapnp file needed to install Lothar so I can upgrade to the latest version? Cory
[newbie] 2 questions
1) How do I put an fstab entry sot that I can mount my old floppy controlled QIC-80 tape drive? Or do I use something else. I want to use KDat to make backups. Right now, I have none (no mass storage) and I'm getting nervous. 2) In Kppp I have the whole path to klicq in the 'start when connected' box, but it doesn't start. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!! -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713