Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 11:55, Dennis Myers opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Shane, on another list I found that someone advised comment out the export PATH= BLAH BLAHfrom /etc/profile.d/kde3.sh This stops the KDE3 bin from being the default. That was a paraphrase sorta. Anyway cool just what i wanted to hear, thanks. -- If someone tells you they possess the truth, listen carefully. If they tell you they possess the *only* truth, run for your life. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment.
Thanks guys, I got the fix's from the Texstar site and am now a happy little vegemite. Now, assuming it runs OK for a while and I'm game (or silly), given that I don't have much disk space, how do I get rid of KDE 2 (or is this not a good idea yet)? The only problem I had was that I couldn't install the KDevelop rpm because of a conflict with /opt/kde3/bin/extractrc conflicting with a file from kdesdk3-3.0-1mdk? Any ideas on this one. If I can fix this, and get the laptop to suspend properly every time I close the lid (instead of every second time) I'd be wrapped. Thanks again. Peter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SpeedMan Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2002 11:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment. On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 05:45, Peter Nunn wrote: KDE 3.0 is simply not ready yet... I spent 24 hours downloading it (yes, I'm on a dialup), installed it with the instructions given here (and it worked fine). However, every time I log in it takes me through the stupid setup screen. Its now lost my panel for some reason (and I can't get it back), and I can't get the sound working at all (all of which are fine under 2.2). This is a real bummer because it looks so much better. Has anyone heard of a workaround for this mess yet? I've searched, but not turned up anything. Texstar has some good info on these issues on his site: http://pclinuxonline.com WRT the KWizard launching on each login - from this page: http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=17 97mode=order=0thold=0 = Here is a quick fix to stop kwizard/kpersonalizer from running each time you start kde3. Option #1: (Worked for me) Open up with a text editor /opt/kde3/bin/startkde Comment out lines :117 -131. Option #2: Open up with a text editor the kpersonalizerrc file in your home .kde3 or .kde /share/config directory and put the following two lines in: [General] FirstLogin=false On my system Option #1 worked best. It seems each time I would log out with option #2, the information gets removed. = Alternately, you can go to this page where Tex has detailed the fixes he applied to several KDE packages that he recompiled and has made available: http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1801mode=o rder=0thold=0 He has packages here that fix both the KWizard and Arts sound issues. Also, anytime you lose your panel in KDE you can just right click on the desktop select Run Command and type in kicker to spawn a new taskbar. HTH Regards, SpeedMan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE3.0 - For Tester
Civ, Will that LN you created below dissappear if you reboot? Should it also be written in a .conf file somewhere? Scott -Original Message- From: tester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 13:07, FemmeFatale wrote: Damian wrote: actually there is a better way. last night i installed KDE 3.0 by getting all RPMS, opening a terminal and doing a urpmi ./+ it asked me for the three MDK cd's and got a lot of packages to solve dependencies... it worked fine, tho kde 3 has bugs.. :o( Damian what does opening a term typing urpmi ./+ do then exactly? So you still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself urpmi just takes care of the deps? And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing KDE2.x? :) Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis for me Damian ;p I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities Femme It installs and runs separately. It is KDE3 on the kdm selection and 11 KDE on Xtart from console. You need about 90 Mb space in / or /opt and if you do not have a separate /opt and / doesn't have that much room, then do this: 1. Open a terminal 2. su to root 3. mkdir -p /usr/opt ln -s /usr/opt /opt exit before you install. It seems to run well as security level 2 and to have problems at 3 or higher. Some of the new open sockets do not appear to get the right permissions for intewrprocess communications at higher security levels. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Sunday 07 April 2002 07:20 am, you wrote: On Sunday 07 April 2002 14:01, shane opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: ok stupid question maybe, but having just done the above, how do i et back to 2.2.2 if i want i only have one entry for kde when i log in and it gives me 3. ok, having read my own question, i realized i didn't ask what i ment to. chalk it up to a bad day with a 3 year old... what i mean is, if i wanted to reinstall 2.2.2 or install 3 on another system in addition rather than bt upgrade, will the login manager have 2 kde choices autoatically or do i need to do something special? Shane, on another list I found that someone advised comment out the export PATH= BLAH BLAHfrom /etc/profile.d/kde3.sh This stops the KDE3 bin from being the default. That was a paraphrase sorta. Anyway I commented the line as told and then rebooted and when lilo came up I hit the drop down for the list of WMs and sure enough there was KDE and KDE3. Seems to have worked. Both KDEs are available. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment.
It isn't a good answer, but it's the truth whether you like it or not. Before the official release, the only people who would use the (unfinished) product are people who know what they're doing and who are willing to experiment (i.e. mostly developers and testers). Most people aren't like this, so the software is only tested in a limited combination of system setups and configurations. KDE3 probably works quite well on most of the developers' and testers' computers, and so was judged to be ready for release. Once the official release is made, an endless minefield of possibilities is opened as ordinary users decide to try this stable release. Things are bound to go wrong, and you'll probably have to wait for a 3.1 release to have decent stability. This is normal, and is to be expected. It happened with KDE 1.0, GNOME 1.0 and KDE 2.0. I am expecting it to happen to GNOME 2.0. It happens to commercial software as well, but many companies have the resources to test their software on a variety of configurations before releasing. Also, KDE is far broader in scope than most commercial applications, so there is more that can go wrong. On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:06:48 +1000, Peter Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but that really isn't a good answer. Surely if its been released (and this isn't a release candidate any more) it should at least run. If it was still Beta, I would expect these sort of problems. It isn't.. Not bad mouthing you I hasten to add, but its not doing there cause any good I wouldn't have thought. Peter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2002 8:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment. On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 19:45:45 +1000, Peter Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KDE 3.0 is simply not ready yet... I spent 24 hours downloading it (yes, I'm on a dialup), installed it with the instructions given here (and it worked fine). However, every time I log in it takes me through the stupid setup screen. Its now lost my panel for some reason (and I can't get it back), and I can't get the sound working at all (all of which are fine under 2.2). This is a real bummer because it looks so much better. Has anyone heard of a workaround for this mess yet? I've searched, but not turned up anything. Instability is to be expected from a x.0 release. Many major infrastructural changes were made, and things will take a while to settle down. This is the reason why MandrakeSoft didn't include KDE 3.0 in Mandrake 8.2, despite much protest. When KDE 2.0 was released, it refused to run on my system. I had to wait for the 2.1 release before it was of any use to me. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The Internet cannot be removed from your Desktop. Do you want to delete the Internet now? -- Microsoft Windows 95 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment.
El dom, 07-04-2002 a las 06:45, Peter Nunn escribió: KDE 3.0 is simply not ready yet... I spent 24 hours downloading it (yes, I'm on a dialup), installed it with the instructions given here (and it worked fine). However, every time I log in it takes me through the stupid setup screen. Its now lost my panel for some reason (and I can't get it back), and I can't get the sound working at all (all of which are fine under 2.2). This is a real bummer because it looks so much better. Has anyone heard of a workaround for this mess yet? I've searched, but not turned up anything. Thanks. Peter. ..hmm.. you can try this: 1) delete ( or rename ) your /home/(whoever)/.kde directories. log in, configure as you please, and log out with the save session check. HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment.
Em Dom 07 Abr 2002 08:06, Peter Nunn escreveu: Sorry, but that really isn't a good answer. Surely if its been released (and this isn't a release candidate any more) it should at least run. If it was still Beta, I would expect these sort of problems. It isn't.. Not bad mouthing you I hasten to add, but its not doing there cause any good I wouldn't have thought. Peter. You're right. The fault if from the rpms Mandrake did. Take the optimized rpms from texstar (pclinuxonline.com) because they fix all the problems I had with MDK rpms (kpresenter and arts). If you don't want to download all the packages, there is instructions to at least fix the kpresenter showing every start of KDE. I still have problems with path on kde3 konsole, but this is a minor thing once I can use execute app from kmenu. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Saturday 06 April 2002 10:28, James Thomas opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I actually just downloaded and installed KDE 3.0 and have been playing with it for a bit. Anyway, all I did was download all of the KDE 3.0 files for Mandrake 8.2 (there's a link from kde's main site). Then I (as root) cd'ed into the appropriate directory and just did: urpmi *.rpm and it fixed all the dependencies I didn't have installed for me - all I had to do was insert Disk 1 when it asked for it. ok stupid question maybe, but having just done the above, how do i et back to 2.2.2 if i want i only have one entry for kde when i log in and it gives me 3. i used texstars rpms by the way -- Save a tree... eat a beaver. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Sunday 07 April 2002 14:01, shane opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: ok stupid question maybe, but having just done the above, how do i et back to 2.2.2 if i want i only have one entry for kde when i log in and it gives me 3. ok, having read my own question, i realized i didn't ask what i ment to. chalk it up to a bad day with a 3 year old... what i mean is, if i wanted to reinstall 2.2.2 or install 3 on another system in addition rather than bt upgrade, will the login manager have 2 kde choices autoatically or do i need to do something special? -- My job is bring comfort to the disturbed, and disturb the comfortable. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Friday 05 April 2002 06:53 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: On 4 Apr 2002, tester wrote: Now do these urpmi unixodbc (and from the reply install every match with urpmi Let me make sure I understand...I type the above, and it shows me this: The following packages contain unixodbc: libunixODBC2-devel unixODBC-gui-qu unixODBC unixODBC-gui-gtk libunixODBC2. So I install those packages before all the rest? Won't that create a ton of dependancy problems, installing just those few before everything else? Why is this method preferable to just doing rpm -ivh *? I've done dozens of KDE upgrades, mostly with Texstar's Mandrake rpms (http://www.pclinuxonline.com/). With all updates I regularly d/l them to a directory by themselves (eg, /stor/kde3/) and in that dir as root, with X/Kde runnin, I rpm -Uvh * (-ivh * would work just as well). If any deps are encountered, rpm will list 'em, nothin will be done. IIRC i needed a few, including libunixODBC2-devel-2.2.0-1mdk and a few others that Software Manger took quick care of. A re-run of rpm -Uvh * merrily installed kde3. Then, as with all major installs, I immediately followed with 'rpm --rebuild db', 'updatedb', 'ldconfig -v', and 'update-menus -v'. That followed by a few login/outs to KDE3 before things sort'a kind'a settle down. (sort'a kin'da is an understatement ;) KDE3 is now an option in KDM. Once chosen KDM will remember to go to KDE3 on future logins for that user (me ;). Oh, I almost forgot, I changed (disabled) autologin before I installed kde3. As with previous tries at kde3 (beta's), I found most kde2 settings were imported, some (actually a lot) I had to re-do. I haven't tried going back to kde2.2.2, but with past kde3 trials, going back (kde3 and 2.2.2 are both installed, kde3's in /opt) will necessitate re-doing some configuration all over again. I should mention that many seem to advocate installin kde3 from outside of X/KDE, and renaming /.kde to .kde-old beforehand. I don't bother with both those notions. YMMV Liquid is not ready or KDE3 is not ready for liquid at this time. Some beautiful theming from Mosfet will just have to wait a little longer. Civileme Texstar's mosfet-liquid-0.9.2-2mdk works fine with at least his KDE3 rpms. Add in the 'Slick' icons and it's even prettier. I share your thought tho, I suspect KDE3 is what's not quite ready for prime time. Mandrake did well to not include it with ML8.2. If I didn't relish a challenge, I'd go back to my good 'ol solid KDE2.2.2 Still might. I d/l'd some more kde3 updates last night, but I can't figure out yet what, if anything, they fixed ;) -- Tom brinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, James Thomas wrote: I actually just downloaded and installed KDE 3.0 and have been playing with it for a bit. Anyway, all I did was download all of the KDE 3.0 files for Mandrake 8.2 (there's a link from kde's main site). Then I (as root) cd'ed into the appropriate directory and just did: urpmi *.rpm and it fixed all the dependencies I didn't have installed for me - all I had to do was insert Disk 1 when it asked for it. James OK...that sounds easy enough, I'll go with that. Thanks, James! From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 19:53:23 -0500 (EST) On 4 Apr 2002, tester wrote: Now do these urpmi unixodbc (and from the reply install every match with urpmi Let me make sure I understand...I type the above, and it shows me this: The following packages contain unixodbc: libunixODBC2-devel unixODBC-gui-qu unixODBC unixODBC-gui-gtk libunixODBC2. So I install those packages before all the rest? Won't that create a ton of dependancy problems, installing just those few before everything else? Why is this method preferable to just doing rpm -ivh *? urpmi postgresql (same activity again, and include all the -devels) urpmi MYSQL (go at it again, installing everything) NOW rpm -ivh *rpm Take notes, you will get some instructions. The procedure will hang on a warning message, refusing to tell you it is completed. Hit the Enter key once for the system prompt. That's it... It will show up as KDE3 on the kdm login screen and it will show up as 11 KDE on the choices Xtart presents from a console. Unles you save the session, it will ask for styles EVERY time you login which can be a pain. The soundserver is, to say the least, flaky. Programs like xmms will continue to work but don't bother reporting known bugs about KDE sound. Some of the login messages and panels may crash with a crash message if your security is High or Higher. KDE3 is making too many assumptions about permissions and open sockets. About par for the course for a .0 type release from KDE. Some things will improve with 3.1, but the new KDE is for the most part, smooth and nice. Liquid is not ready or KDE3 is not ready for liquid at this time. Some beautiful theming from Mosfet will just have to wait a little longer. Civileme -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: *laughs* Damian flaked on me, so Civilme to the Bat-Rescue! Into the KDE-Mobile my linux comrades! Now thats *got* to be a major blow to the ego, eh, Damian? ;-) -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
El vie, 05-04-2002 a las 11:11, Roger Sherman escribió: On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: *laughs* Damian flaked on me, so Civilme to the Bat-Rescue! Into the KDE-Mobile my linux comrades! Now thats *got* to be a major blow to the ego, eh, Damian? ;-) ;oP anyway it wasn't my fault, i had to go to jail yesterday afternoon, that's why i didn't reply. however i did reply when i escaped, later on... ( btw by jail i mean the university ;o) See ya. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
El vie, 05-04-2002 a las 14:08, Damian escribió: El vie, 05-04-2002 a las 11:11, Roger Sherman escribió: On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: *laughs* Damian flaked on me, so Civilme to the Bat-Rescue! Into the KDE-Mobile my linux comrades! Now thats *got* to be a major blow to the ego, eh, Damian? ;-) ;oP anyway it wasn't my fault, i had to go to jail yesterday afternoon, that's why i didn't reply. however i did reply when i escaped, later on... ( btw by jail i mean the university ;o) See ya. Damian oh and i'm going to jail today, too, so you will have some more flaking from me! ;oP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On 4 Apr 2002, tester wrote: Now do these urpmi unixodbc (and from the reply install every match with urpmi Let me make sure I understand...I type the above, and it shows me this: The following packages contain unixodbc: libunixODBC2-devel unixODBC-gui-qu unixODBC unixODBC-gui-gtk libunixODBC2. So I install those packages before all the rest? Won't that create a ton of dependancy problems, installing just those few before everything else? Why is this method preferable to just doing rpm -ivh *? urpmi postgresql (same activity again, and include all the -devels) urpmi MYSQL (go at it again, installing everything) NOW rpm -ivh *rpm Take notes, you will get some instructions. The procedure will hang on a warning message, refusing to tell you it is completed. Hit the Enter key once for the system prompt. That's it... It will show up as KDE3 on the kdm login screen and it will show up as 11 KDE on the choices Xtart presents from a console. Unles you save the session, it will ask for styles EVERY time you login which can be a pain. The soundserver is, to say the least, flaky. Programs like xmms will continue to work but don't bother reporting known bugs about KDE sound. Some of the login messages and panels may crash with a crash message if your security is High or Higher. KDE3 is making too many assumptions about permissions and open sockets. About par for the course for a .0 type release from KDE. Some things will improve with 3.1, but the new KDE is for the most part, smooth and nice. Liquid is not ready or KDE3 is not ready for liquid at this time. Some beautiful theming from Mosfet will just have to wait a little longer. Civileme -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
I actually just downloaded and installed KDE 3.0 and have been playing with it for a bit. Anyway, all I did was download all of the KDE 3.0 files for Mandrake 8.2 (there's a link from kde's main site). Then I (as root) cd'ed into the appropriate directory and just did: urpmi *.rpm and it fixed all the dependencies I didn't have installed for me - all I had to do was insert Disk 1 when it asked for it. James From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 19:53:23 -0500 (EST) On 4 Apr 2002, tester wrote: Now do these urpmi unixodbc (and from the reply install every match with urpmi Let me make sure I understand...I type the above, and it shows me this: The following packages contain unixodbc: libunixODBC2-devel unixODBC-gui-qu unixODBC unixODBC-gui-gtk libunixODBC2. So I install those packages before all the rest? Won't that create a ton of dependancy problems, installing just those few before everything else? Why is this method preferable to just doing rpm -ivh *? urpmi postgresql (same activity again, and include all the -devels) urpmi MYSQL (go at it again, installing everything) NOW rpm -ivh *rpm Take notes, you will get some instructions. The procedure will hang on a warning message, refusing to tell you it is completed. Hit the Enter key once for the system prompt. That's it... It will show up as KDE3 on the kdm login screen and it will show up as 11 KDE on the choices Xtart presents from a console. Unles you save the session, it will ask for styles EVERY time you login which can be a pain. The soundserver is, to say the least, flaky. Programs like xmms will continue to work but don't bother reporting known bugs about KDE sound. Some of the login messages and panels may crash with a crash message if your security is High or Higher. KDE3 is making too many assumptions about permissions and open sockets. About par for the course for a .0 type release from KDE. Some things will improve with 3.1, but the new KDE is for the most part, smooth and nice. Liquid is not ready or KDE3 is not ready for liquid at this time. Some beautiful theming from Mosfet will just have to wait a little longer. Civileme -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE3.0
Hello: What is the best method of installing KDE 3.0. I've got in downloaded and want to install it on my 8.2 system, but want to do it in the best possible way. Any tips or hints? Thanks, Steve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 06:33:50 -0600, Steven Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: What is the best method of installing KDE 3.0. I've got in downloaded and want to install it on my 8.2 system, but want to do it in the best possible way. Any tips or hints? Thanks, Steve It should be simple. Download all the RPMs and put them in their own directory. Enter the directory and type 'rpm -Uvh *rpm'. KDE3 installs into /opt, so you can have both KDE3 and KDE2 installed side-by-side. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan You have no privacy. Get over it. -- Scott McNealy, CEO of Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
Thanks! I had forgotten how to do that. Interesing that you can run both. How would you start one or the other. Right now, of course, I'm running 2 and would like to try three. Once installed how would I run 3.0? Thanks again, Steve On Thursday 04 April 2002 07:16 am, you wrote: On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 06:33:50 -0600, Steven Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: What is the best method of installing KDE 3.0. I've got in downloaded and want to install it on my 8.2 system, but want to do it in the best possible way. Any tips or hints? Thanks, Steve It should be simple. Download all the RPMs and put them in their own directory. Enter the directory and type 'rpm -Uvh *rpm'. KDE3 installs into /opt, so you can have both KDE3 and KDE2 installed side-by-side. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
Damian wrote: actually there is a better way. last night i installed KDE 3.0 by getting all RPMS, opening a terminal and doing a urpmi ./+ it asked me for the three MDK cd's and got a lot of packages to solve dependencies... it worked fine, tho kde 3 has bugs.. :o( Damian what does opening a term typing urpmi ./+ do then exactly? So you still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself urpmi just takes care of the deps? And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing KDE2.x? :) Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis for me Damian ;p I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 03:33, Steven Spears wrote: Hello: What is the best method of installing KDE 3.0. I've got in downloaded and want to install it on my 8.2 system, but want to do it in the best possible way. Any tips or hints? Thanks, Steve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Put all the RPMs in a single directory Open up a terminal window and su to root and cd to your directory with the KDE rpms Now do these urpmi unixodbc (and from the reply install every match with urpmi urpmi postgresql (same activity again, and include all the -devels) urpmi MYSQL (go at it again, installing everything) NOW rpm -ivh *rpm Take notes, you will get some instructions. The procedure will hang on a warning message, refusing to tell you it is completed. Hit the Enter key once for the system prompt. That's it... It will show up as KDE3 on the kdm login screen and it will show up as 11 KDE on the choices Xtart presents from a console. Unles you save the session, it will ask for styles EVERY time you login which can be a pain. The soundserver is, to say the least, flaky. Programs like xmms will continue to work but don't bother reporting known bugs about KDE sound. Some of the login messages and panels may crash with a crash message if your security is High or Higher. KDE3 is making too many assumptions about permissions and open sockets. About par for the course for a .0 type release from KDE. Some things will improve with 3.1, but the new KDE is for the most part, smooth and nice. Liquid is not ready or KDE3 is not ready for liquid at this time. Some beautiful theming from Mosfet will just have to wait a little longer. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 13:07, FemmeFatale wrote: Damian wrote: actually there is a better way. last night i installed KDE 3.0 by getting all RPMS, opening a terminal and doing a urpmi ./+ it asked me for the three MDK cd's and got a lot of packages to solve dependencies... it worked fine, tho kde 3 has bugs.. :o( Damian what does opening a term typing urpmi ./+ do then exactly? So you still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself urpmi just takes care of the deps? And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing KDE2.x? :) Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis for me Damian ;p I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities Femme It installs and runs separately. It is KDE3 on the kdm selection and 11 KDE on Xtart from console. You need about 90 Mb space in / or /opt and if you do not have a separate /opt and / doesn't have that much room, then do this: 1. Open a terminal 2. su to root 3. mkdir -p /usr/opt ln -s /usr/opt /opt exit before you install. It seems to run well as security level 2 and to have problems at 3 or higher. Some of the new open sockets do not appear to get the right permissions for intewrprocess communications at higher security levels. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
tester wrote: what does opening a term typing urpmi ./+ do then exactly? So you still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself urpmi just takes care of the deps? And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing KDE2.x? :) Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis for me Damian ;p I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities Femme It installs and runs separately. It is KDE3 on the kdm selection and 11 KDE on Xtart from console. You need about 90 Mb space in / or /opt and if you do not have a separate /opt and / doesn't have that much room, then do this: 1. Open a terminal 2. su to root 3. mkdir -p /usr/opt ln -s /usr/opt /opt exit before you install. It seems to run well as security level 2 and to have problems at 3 or higher. Some of the new open sockets do not appear to get the right permissions for intewrprocess communications at higher security levels. Civileme *laughs* Damian flaked on me, so Civilme to the Bat-Rescue! Into the KDE-Mobile my linux comrades! TY. I will think about installing it... I suspect with my record I'll break a lot of things if I do though so... i'll install it on a separate Linux install on a separate partition. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.0
El jue, 04-04-2002 a las 19:07, FemmeFatale escribió: Damian wrote: actually there is a better way. last night i installed KDE 3.0 by getting all RPMS, opening a terminal and doing a urpmi ./+ it asked me for the three MDK cd's and got a lot of packages to solve dependencies... it worked fine, tho kde 3 has bugs.. :o( Damian what does opening a term typing urpmi ./+ do then exactly? So you still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself urpmi just takes care of the deps? And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing KDE2.x? :) Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis for me Damian ;p I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities Femme hi Femme. well actually there is a typo in my post. it's urpmi ./* urpmi is like rpm -ivh ( install package ) but it checks dependencies, if a needed package is available in mandrake cd's, it asks for them to solve deps automatically. urpmi ./* means install everything in this directory. you can also use urpmi to install packages that are within MDK cd's directly. for example, you just open a terminal and type urpmi openoffice it will open your cdrom drive asking for your first cd download edition and will install OO. see ya. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
