Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
Charlie said: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:35 am, many eyes viewed David B. Carter's words:- I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the /winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a /var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! Edit it out of your /etc/fstab file It's not in /etc/fstab. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
Alaa The Great said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:35:14 -0500 (EST) David B. Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the/winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a/var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! what do you mean you have /winshare?? does it show up in diskdrake?? or do you just mean the directory /windshare exists?? its normal for the directory to remain even after you remove the partition, the directory where you mount partitions is stored at the parent partition (on the root partition in this case). No, it doesn't show up in DiskDrake. The directory is still there, and I can create files in it. So, do I just need to rmdir the directory? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:35 pm, David B. Carter wrote: I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the /winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a /var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! David, the act of creating a mount point and mounting a partition involves two separate things. First, you create an actual mount point directory off of root. That directory is there regardless of whether the partition is mounted or not. Second, you create an fstab entry that tells the mount -a command what partition to mount and what mount point to use. Once you issue the mount command, the empty mount point directory is no longer empty and you will see the contents of the partition. You have now removed the winshare partition and it is no longer being mounted but the mount point directory still exists. You simply need to go out as root and issue the rm -r /winshare command and it will remove the empty directory. Make sure that it is empty first, ls /winshare -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
Bryan Phinney said: David, the act of creating a mount point and mounting a partition involves two separate things. First, you create an actual mount point directory off of root. That directory is there regardless of whether the partition is mounted or not. Second, you create an fstab entry that tells the mount -a command what partition to mount and what mount point to use. Once you issue the mount command, the empty mount point directory is no longer empty and you will see the contents of the partition. You have now removed the winshare partition and it is no longer being mounted but the mount point directory still exists. You simply need to go out as root and issue the rm -r /winshare command and it will remove the empty directory. Make sure that it is empty first, ls /winshare Thanks. I was very confused, but that makes sense. I'll go ahead and remove the directory. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:30 am, many eyes viewed David B. Carter's words:- Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the /winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a /var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! Edit it out of your /etc/fstab file It's not in /etc/fstab. Is it in your /mnt directory. If so remove it from there. -- How mysterious! The lotus remains unstained By its muddy roots, Delivering shimmering Bright jewels from common dew. - The Monk Henjo This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
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David B. Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
its normal for the directory to remain even after you remove the
partition, the directory where you mount partitions is stored at the
parent partition (on the root partition in this case).
No, it doesn't show up in DiskDrake. The directory is still there, and
I can create files in it. So, do I just need to rmdir the directory?
yep thats all you need.
cheers,
Alaa
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[newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the /winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a /var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:35:14 -0500 (EST)
David B. Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro
and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard
drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single
FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In
MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare.
Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted
the/winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as
/var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I
have a/var/servers AND a /winshare.
How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it!
what do you mean you have /winshare?? does it show up in diskdrake??
or do you just mean the directory /windshare exists??
its normal for the directory to remain even after you remove the
partition, the directory where you mount partitions is stored at the
parent partition (on the root partition in this case).
cheers,
Alaa
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Re: [newbie] diskdrake
Tom Brinkman wrote: Ok, if I understand what you want booting the first CD an choosing install should do it. You're runnin from the CD, Yes I know, but it's an awful pain method . You have to bump along all that preamble to get to diskdrake and crash out to exit. Not really user friendly. It needs some way of doing this properly. Surely linux has a way of putting together a temporary kernel installing it into memory and adding useful tool kits, like drakxtools-newt, partimage and all the rest. This method of doing things is much more universally usable than working from an OS or bumping through CD1 install disc. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] diskdrake
John, Can't you use one of the small distro's/linux toolboxes which run in memory to do this? Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] diskdrake Tom Brinkman wrote: Ok, if I understand what you want booting the first CD an choosing install should do it. You're runnin from the CD, Yes I know, but it's an awful pain method . You have to bump along all that preamble to get to diskdrake and crash out to exit. Not really user friendly. It needs some way of doing this properly. Surely linux has a way of putting together a temporary kernel installing it into memory and adding useful tool kits, like drakxtools-newt, partimage and all the rest. This method of doing things is much more universally usable than working from an OS or bumping through CD1 install disc. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake
Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, Can't you use one of the small distro's/linux toolboxes which run in memory to do this? Tony. Have you anything in particular in mind. I'm familiar with Gentoo, but I'm not able to find everything I want on it. requirements , partimage, diskdrake, a good modern text editor, not VI , otherwise not fussy, possible internet connection. Genuine Root status John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] diskdrake
John, Here are a couple which should do the job. There are plenty more on sourceforge if these don't quite fit with what you want. Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] diskdrake Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, Can't you use one of the small distro's/linux toolboxes which run in memory to do this? Tony. Have you anything in particular in mind. I'm familiar with Gentoo, but I'm not able to find everything I want on it. requirements , partimage, diskdrake, a good modern text editor, not VI , otherwise not fussy, possible internet connection. Genuine Root status John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ LNX-BBC Home.url Description: LNX-BBC Home.url Linuxcare Bootable Toolbox.url Description: Linuxcare Bootable Toolbox.url Trinux A Linux Security Toolkit.url Description: Trinux A Linux Security Toolkit.url Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] diskdrake
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Re: [newbie] diskdrake
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:24, John Richard Smith wrote: What package installs diskdrake ? [root]default# which diskdrake /usr/sbin/diskdrake [root]default# rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/sbin/diskdrake drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:24 am, John Richard Smith wrote: What package installs diskdrake ? John drakxtools-newt -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake
Sharrea Day wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:24, John Richard Smith wrote: What package installs diskdrake ? [root]default# which diskdrake /usr/sbin/diskdrake [root]default# rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/sbin/diskdrake drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk Sharrea Hey that's a useful little command , that's going in the book right away. Thanks. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake
Tom Brinkman wrote: How 'bout booting the 1st CD and choosing 'upgrade'? Not sure I under stand your problem. Is the system unbootable? If it's bootable you can 'urpmi diskdrake' or use rpmdrake to install it. If it not, then you'll probly have to choose 'install' and fix your partitions. I want to run diskdrake from memory not from an OS. That's one of the problems with diskdrake you only have two choices , run it from either an OS or an Upgrade, the first is not what I want and the second long winded. I want to install a kernel in memory and install diskdrake to do partitioning and formatting and then exit. A similar example is gento with partimage. I just wondered whether the Mandrake CD1 could do the same as the disk does have drakxtools-newt on it and since it willcreate a kernel and install it in memory , isn't there some way of getting diskdrake as well ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 06:44 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: How 'bout booting the 1st CD and choosing 'upgrade'? Not sure I under stand your problem. Is the system unbootable? If it's bootable you can 'urpmi diskdrake' or use rpmdrake to install it. If it not, then you'll probly have to choose 'install' and fix your partitions. I want to run diskdrake from memory not from an OS. That's one of the problems with diskdrake you only have two choices , run it from either an OS or an Upgrade, the first is not what I want and the second long winded. I want to install a kernel in memory and install diskdrake to do partitioning and formatting and then exit. A similar example is gento with partimage. I just wondered whether the Mandrake CD1 could do the same as the disk does have drakxtools-newt on it and since it willcreate a kernel and install it in memory , isn't there some way of getting diskdrake as well ? John Ok, if I understand what you want booting the first CD an choosing install should do it. You're runnin from the CD, and it's runnin entirely in ram, not your HDD. BUT, if your gonna do partitioning and formatting and then exit, you can do that with diskdrake in a running system from HDD. Just not on the partitions your system is on. Maybe I'd (we'd) understand better if you mentioned Mandrake version, as just what's heck you wanna accomplish -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.
Hello, I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but clicking unmount in DiskDrake has no effect. 'umount /dev/hsa6' tells me that the device is busy. How do I procede? Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.
On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 8:32 am, James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but clicking unmount in DiskDrake has no effect. 'umount /dev/hsa6' tells me that the device is busy. How do I procede? Jim Before you can unmount a partition you have to stop using it. If this partition is /home then it is being used by your login. To get around the problem log in as root user (/root is on a different partition) (and before you say the graphical login does not allow you to log in as root user MandrakeControlCentreHardwareLoginManager select kdm. On next boot the login will allow root login) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.
Sharrea wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:32, James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but clicking unmount in DiskDrake has no effect. 'umount /dev/hsa6' tells me that the device is busy. How do I procede? Not sure whether this will work or not. But you could try logging in as root so the /home dir is not being used at all and then running diskdrake. I think /home gets mounted automatically. Either edit it out of /etc/fstab, or boot uo in recuse mode, in which cae nothing is mounted. Sir Robin -- A strategy is still being formulated. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 17:19, Robin Turner wrote: Sharrea wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:32, James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but clicking unmount in DiskDrake has no effect. 'umount /dev/hsa6' tells me that the device is busy. How do I procede? Not sure whether this will work or not. But you could try logging in as root so the /home dir is not being used at all and then running diskdrake. I think /home gets mounted automatically. Either edit it out of /etc/fstab, or boot uo in recuse mode, in which cae nothing is mounted. Sir Robin at the lilo screen, before you time out, hit esc (tab might work) and type linux 1 (without the quotes) and from there you can unmount /home if you still need to Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake install to configure internet-network
thanks dennis for help,i'll see you. How do you connect to the internet? Do you use a 56k modem or are you on cable modem? Or do you use a broadband telephone modem like your phone company would connect you? If you use a local area network that more than one computer connects through then you would choose LAN CONNECTION, if you have a 56k modem connected through the telephone service then you would select normal modem connection If you have high speed telephone connection through the phone company use (assumption) ADSL CONNECTION, HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 rhp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] diskdrake install to configure internet-network
paul, i need make a choose with diskdrake install to configure internet-network normal moden connection? ISDN CONECTION? ADSL CONNECTION? LAN CONNECTION? I don't know how connection? thanks for help. rhp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake install to configure internet-network
On Friday 30 August 2002 01:50 pm, rhp.mac wrote: paul, i need make a choose with diskdrake install to configure internet-network normal moden connection? ISDN CONECTION? ADSL CONNECTION? LAN CONNECTION? I don't know how connection? thanks for help. rhp. How do you connect to the internet? Do you use a 56k modem or are you on cable modem? Or do you use a broadband telephone modem like your phone company would connect you? If you use a local area network that more than one computer connects through then you would choose LAN CONNECTION, if you have a 56k modem connected through the telephone service then you would select normal modem connection If you have high speed telephone connection through the phone company use (assumption) ADSL CONNECTION, HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
Just surfing around various broads, trying to answer a previous post. I came across that DiskDrake cannot format ntfs partitions(Laptop was winXP on a ntfs partition) without corruption. I think this explains my inability to succesfully install Mandrake. Anyone have any more information, or a better explanation? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
I think that Linux doesn't support ntfs partitions, I am not sure. Anyway, if you want to resize your ntfs partition to make possible installing mandrake, you will need something like partition magic, but there is partition star as well, a shareware program, you can use it for 30 days. Hope I have helped, greetings ! Rodrigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just surfing around various broads, trying to answer a previous post. I came across that DiskDrake cannot format ntfs partitions(Laptop was winXP on a ntfs partition) without corruption. I think this explains my inability to succesfully install Mandrake. Anyone have any more information, or a better explanation? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
From what I have heard Partition Magic 7.0 is availible. Hopefully this is shareware. If not i'll scream untill I get mandrake running heh. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
PMagic isnt sharewhere. You can download a 'demo' from their site that will show you what the app will do if you pay them. But you cannot make write any changes to your partition table. If you use the iMesh file sharing program, you can do a search for partition magic and can usually find one that says Partitoin Magic Pro 7 FULL. It is a realativly small download. That one will work for you. On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 21:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I have heard Partition Magic 7.0 is availible. Hopefully this is shareware. If not i'll scream untill I get mandrake running heh. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
heh, ahh the magic of the internet, people are just so sharing ::grins:: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
you can find it on morpheus too. but WAY slower.. On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 22:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh, ahh the magic of the internet, people are just so sharing ::grins:: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
umm... how about... ... forget the broads... and check out the boards... ? sorry, couldn't resist ;) seriusly now... I don't know anything about ntfs. Hopefully someone else can help. skinky -- oxymoron: Microsoft Works On Monday 11 February 2002 13:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just surfing around various broads, trying to answer a previous post. I came across that DiskDrake cannot format ntfs partitions(Laptop was winXP on a ntfs partition) without corruption. I think this explains my inability to succesfully install Mandrake. Anyone have any more information, or a better explanation? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake And WinXP
On Monday 11 February 2002 01:41 pm, you wrote: Just surfing around various broads, trying to answer a previous post. I came across that DiskDrake cannot format ntfs partitions(Laptop was winXP on a ntfs partition) without corruption. I think this explains my inability to successfully install Mandrake. Anyone have any more information, or a better explanation? I finished up buying Partition magic after surfing the boards and it seemed that was about the only way -- for now. Something else about half the price claimed it would do it - but a search on that revealed a lot of disappointed customers. I am sure there must be a better way but I don't know it! I can now mount my windows ntfs partition in linux. Works great. Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake doesn't show partitions
Barbara Pfieffer wrote: But, the problem is, the partition I added is my /home partition. I'm afraid I'll lose it, following your instructions. Here's fdisk p output and my df. Will I lose my /home partition? Barbara Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2431 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1640 13173268+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda2 1641 2431 6353707+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 1641 1671248976 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 1672 2057 3100482 83 Linux /dev/hda7 2058 2115465853+ 83 Linux Command (m for help): q [root@mhar bjp]# df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 3051760 2149852746884 75% / none192116 0192116 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda8 2498348283956 2087484 12% /home /dev/hda1 13159416 9178120 3981296 70% /mnt/windows tester wrote: Barbara Pfieffer wrote: I used Diskdrake to add a partition, and now, when I run it, it shows an empty harddrive. There is a partition table and fstab works, since I can boot into both Windows and Linux. Is there a way to fix it so I can use it to resize a partition? Barbara Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com You added a linux-extended partiton type, most probably. In most circumstances Diskdrake can make sense of this, but it is a partition table recovery item, so it will not always do so. You see, the partition table on a drive is 66 bytes, the last 66 bytes of the 512 bytes of the first sector on the disk Each entry is 16 bytes and there are two signature bytes at the end of the 4 entries. A primary partition has the first and last block of the partition, a number, and a type. There can be at most 4 primary partitions. An extended entry just points to the first sector of an extension and defines the total area. In the first sector of the extension are two partition table entries, the first a partition definition just like the primary partition table that points to the firast genuine partition, and then a pointer to the first sector of the remaining partition available for additional extensions So extensions are defined in a chain. This explains why people with windows extended partitons sometimes can no longer findd them after installing linux--the windows search quits as soon as it encounters a non-windows partition. Now if you say a partition type is linux-extended or just extended then the data fields to be read will have either random data from previous use or filler characters from a previous format, not likely to define a proper chain. In most circumstances, Diskdrake detects this situation and decides thaqt since it is the last entry, the partition table can be corrected... just drop the extended partition. But if the data defines something possible but say overlapping with previous partitioning, diskdrake gives up with a blank table. OK Open a terminal su to root # fdisk /dev/hda or whatever is the drive where you added the partition p to print the partition table on your screen note the number of the partition you added. d to delete the last entry it will ask for the number w to rewrite the partition table and exit # reboot Now you should be able top proceed as before, with a partition table that diskdrake can recognize Naturally, next time you call diskdrake, note that you can save the partiton table to floppy or restore it from floppy from within diskdrake. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com You are correct. You would lose /home. Thewre is nothing in that partition table to make diskdrake act that way. The likeliness of a bad load or bad store of diskdrake is very very high. It suggests either bad media or a disk with failure imminent, but the fact that diskdrake worked correctly once suggests about zero chance for the bad install. OK that is very strange, Back up all data and get a new disk. I can find you a 40G for less than $100 including shipping if you like.. Something is amiss, and it is not likely to get better with age Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake resize
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:03:26 -0400 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Miark's words, written Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:57:34 -0600 Does DiskDrake resize ext2 and/or Reiser partitions? Miark I am not sure if it can resize non-destructively. For resizing (at least for ext2) you can resort to GNU-parted. You can find that through www.google.com/linux You can also use Ext2resize. Both it and parted are included in 8.0 but neither is install by default. Just use the SW Mgr/installable/flat list. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DiskDrake resize
Does DiskDrake resize ext2 and/or Reiser partitions? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake resize
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:57:34 -0600, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does DiskDrake resize ext2 and/or Reiser partitions? Miark For ext2: No, you will have to use something like Partition Magic to do this. For ReiserFS: http://www.namesys.com/rsz.html -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] diskdrake in LM 8
Hello, List. Please forgive this newbie 's question :) I installed LM 8.0 Standard edition, but I just can't find diskdrake which let you modify partitions. I wonder if the manual misprint something or it only apply to the complete edition. Thanks for reading. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] diskdrake in LM 8
On Friday 08 June 2001 12:20, you wrote: Hello, List. Please forgive this newbie 's question :) I installed LM 8.0 Standard edition, but I just can't find diskdrake which let you modify partitions. I wonder if the manual misprint something or it only apply to the complete edition. Thanks for reading. It's in Mandrake Control Centre and it's called Harddrake not disk drake - open control centre, select hardware -- Poogle Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those irritated by it)
Re: [newbie] diskdrake in LM 8
On Friday 08 June 2001 09:41 pm, you wrote: On Friday 08 June 2001 12:20, you wrote: Hello, List. Please forgive this newbie 's question :) I installed LM 8.0 Standard edition, but I just can't find diskdrake which let you modify partitions. I wonder if the manual misprint something or it only apply to the complete edition. Thanks for reading. It's in Mandrake Control Centre and it's called Harddrake not disk drake - open control centre, select hardware Nooo, diskdrake does exist and is not harddrake. Call up a konsole, console or however you spell it and at the prompt just type diskdrake without the quotes as usual, and it should pop up and show you a tab with hda and another with hdb or what ever and if , you have a second hard drive. Note the warning to back up precious files. You are in territory capable of eating data and swallowing hole. Back up! But there you are, it is at your fingertips. Enjoy, -- Dennis M. registered Linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake w/ PartitionMagic
I seem to recall someone some time ago explaining that Partition Magic/System Commander etc use a "different" method for creating partitions and partition types, I can't be any more explicit because I don't understand it any more than that. However, I had a similar problem with a HD that had been partitioned using System Commander, I tried using DiskDrake to change the partition type, blank the entire partition table etc all to no avail - the type 85 partition kept "coming back". As I recall (it was some time ago now and memory fails I'm afraid) I used Linux fdisk to either change the partition type or deleted it and re-created the partitions that I wanted, then carried on with DiskDrake during an install. That is my rather vague recollection of events so if you try it you are on your own ! I can't add any more, and fdisk will destroy existing data so make sure you're backed up or have nothing that matters on the HD before you try. BTW Grub is not subject to the 1024 cylinder limit and for that matter the new version of Lilo is not either. On Tuesday 10 April 2001 15:23, you wrote: I'm finding it difficult to believe nobody has an opinion on this -- heck, nobody's even flamed me for a clueless newbie :) I recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on a machine that already had a single Windows Me partition on a 60G IBM hard drive. Although I'd already purchased a copy of PartitionMagic (v. 6.0) I wanted to put Mandrake through its paces, so I used DiskDrake to reduce the size of the FAT32 partition and to create my new Gnu/Linux partitions (1 swap, 3 ext2). After installing PartitionMagic I used it to split up my Windows partition (going from a single FAT32 partition to four FAT32 parti- tions). This worked fine. PartitionMagic doesn't see the Gnu/Linux partitions, however. It displays them as one big contiguous "Type 85" partition. Naturally I haven't tried doing anything with this via PM. Other than this, everything's working fine. Both the Me and Gnu/ Linux sides are booting (using Grub) and running properly -- but I *would* like to be able to manage my Gnu/Linux partitions with PM. I should point out that all of the Gnu/Linux stuff is at the end of the partition map, well beyond the 1024-cylinder frontier. Anyone know what might be going on? Thanks Mark Shaw
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake w/ PartitionMagic
I'm finding it difficult to believe nobody has an opinion on this -- heck, nobody's even flamed me for a clueless newbie :) I recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on a machine that already had a single Windows Me partition on a 60G IBM hard drive. Although I'd already purchased a copy of PartitionMagic (v. 6.0) I wanted to put Mandrake through its paces, so I used DiskDrake to reduce the size of the FAT32 partition and to create my new Gnu/Linux partitions (1 swap, 3 ext2). After installing PartitionMagic I used it to split up my Windows partition (going from a single FAT32 partition to four FAT32 parti- tions). This worked fine. PartitionMagic doesn't see the Gnu/Linux partitions, however. It displays them as one big contiguous "Type 85" partition. Naturally I haven't tried doing anything with this via PM. Other than this, everything's working fine. Both the Me and Gnu/ Linux sides are booting (using Grub) and running properly -- but I *would* like to be able to manage my Gnu/Linux partitions with PM. I should point out that all of the Gnu/Linux stuff is at the end of the partition map, well beyond the 1024-cylinder frontier. Anyone know what might be going on? Thanks Mark Shaw
RE: [newbie] DiskDrake w/ PartitionMagic
I have PM 3 which is old and I see everything. Are you sure you using it correctly? Yeah. And I was able to manage my Windows partitions just fine. + you got 60G's isn't that enough for 2 OS's Heck, that's enough for several more. I'd just like to be able to manage the Gnu/Linux partitions with PM as well. -Message d'origine- I'm finding it difficult to believe nobody has an opinion on this -- heck, nobody's even flamed me for a clueless newbie :) I recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on a machine that already had a single Windows Me partition on a 60G IBM hard drive. Although I'd already purchased a copy of PartitionMagic (v. 6.0) I wanted to put Mandrake through its paces, so I used DiskDrake to reduce the size of the FAT32 partition and to create my new Gnu/Linux partitions (1 swap, 3 ext2). After installing PartitionMagic I used it to split up my Windows partition (going from a single FAT32 partition to four FAT32 parti- tions). This worked fine. PartitionMagic doesn't see the Gnu/Linux partitions, however. It displays them as one big contiguous "Type 85" partition. Naturally I haven't tried doing anything with this via PM. Other than this, everything's working fine. Both the Me and Gnu/ Linux sides are booting (using Grub) and running properly -- but I *would* like to be able to manage my Gnu/Linux partitions with PM. I should point out that all of the Gnu/Linux stuff is at the end of the partition map, well beyond the 1024-cylinder frontier. Anyone know what might be going on? Thanks Mark Shaw
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake w/ PartitionMagic
I can confirm your observations. I too have just installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on a dual partition (win98-15GB active, ntfs-15GB blank,10GB unused) 40 GB IBM drive. The installation went without a hitch. I now have Linux partitions at the end of the drive(past 30GB mark and using the remaining 10GB) booting via grub. I would like to reduce the size of the Linux partition but with PM v6.0, I see one FULL 'type 85' partition. No free space. Of course, this is not accurate. Do I assume that grub is operating from the MBR thus making the 1024 cyl. limit meaningless in this case? - Original Message - From: "Mark Shaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:48 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] DiskDrake w/ PartitionMagic I have PM 3 which is old and I see everything. Are you sure you using it correctly? Yeah. And I was able to manage my Windows partitions just fine. + you got 60G's isn't that enough for 2 OS's Heck, that's enough for several more. I'd just like to be able to manage the Gnu/Linux partitions with PM as well. -Message d'origine- I'm finding it difficult to believe nobody has an opinion on this -- heck, nobody's even flamed me for a clueless newbie :) I recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on a machine that already had a single Windows Me partition on a 60G IBM hard drive. Although I'd already purchased a copy of PartitionMagic (v. 6.0) I wanted to put Mandrake through its paces, so I used DiskDrake to reduce the size of the FAT32 partition and to create my new Gnu/Linux partitions (1 swap, 3 ext2). After installing PartitionMagic I used it to split up my Windows partition (going from a single FAT32 partition to four FAT32 parti- tions). This worked fine. PartitionMagic doesn't see the Gnu/Linux partitions, however. It displays them as one big contiguous "Type 85" partition. Naturally I haven't tried doing anything with this via PM. Other than this, everything's working fine. Both the Me and Gnu/ Linux sides are booting (using Grub) and running properly -- but I *would* like to be able to manage my Gnu/Linux partitions with PM. I should point out that all of the Gnu/Linux stuff is at the end of the partition map, well beyond the 1024-cylinder frontier. Anyone know what might be going on? Thanks Mark Shaw
[newbie] DiskDrake w/ PartitionMagic
I recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on a machine that already had a single Windows Me partition on a 60G IBM hard drive. Although I'd already purchased a copy of PartitionMagic (v. 6.0) I wanted to put Mandrake through its paces, so I used DiskDrake to reduce the size of the FAT32 partition and to create my new Gnu/Linux partitions (1 swap, 3 ext2). After installing PartitionMagic I used it to split up my Windows partition (going from a single FAT32 partition to four FAT32 parti- tions). This worked fine. PartitionMagic doesn't see the Gnu/Linux partitions, however. It displays them as one big contiguous "Type 85" partition. Naturally I haven't tried doing anything with this via PM. Other than this, everything's working fine. Both the Me and Gnu/ Linux sides are booting (using Grub) and running properly -- but I *would* like to be able to manage my Gnu/Linux partitions with PM. I should point out that all of the Gnu/Linux stuff is at the end of the partition map, well beyond the 1024-cylinder frontier. Anyone know what might be going on? Thanks Mark Shaw
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake won't resize my partition
On Monday 02 April 2001 05:08, you wrote: When I click on the Resize button in DiskDrake (after entering expert mode) during the installation of Mandrake 7.2, I get the following message: "this partition is not resizable". I have a single windows (win98) FAT32 partition that takes up the entire disk (19GB). I've run the windows utils 'defrag' and 'scandisk' (thorough scan), as well as Norton utils like speed disk and disk doctor before attempting the install. I've also tried the option that frees space on your windows partition but I get an error saying that I need to 'defrag' (but I did this before the install). I would appreciate any help or advice (I wish to run Linux along side windows). Thanks. Some programs install with non-relocatable clusters at the end of the disk. Check for red-marked blocks while running defrag with the detail on--you are likely to find non-relocatable blocks at the extreme end of your disk. To rid yourself of them, you have to uninstall the programs that put them there. Until then your disk is not resizable. You can of course back up everything and repartition from DOS/windows making a 9-16 Gb primary partition for windows 98 and leaving the rest blank, then restoring what you backed up. Civileme Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
[newbie] DiskDrake won't resize my partition
When I click on the Resize button in DiskDrake (after entering expert mode) during the installation of Mandrake 7.2, I get the followingmessage: "this partition is not resizable". I have a single windows (win98) FAT32 partition that takes up the entire disk (19GB). I've run the windows utils 'defrag' and 'scandisk' (thorough scan), as well as Norton utils like speed disk and disk doctor before attempting the install. I've also tried the option that frees space on your windows partition but I get an error saying that I need to 'defrag' (but I did this before the install). I would appreciate any help or advice (I wish to run Linux along side windows). Thanks.
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake won't resize my partition
hi... do i understand you correctly here? the drive is one large fat partition, and you are trying to resize that partition without losing the data on it? i don't think diskdrake can do this, without data lose that is. tho i could be wrong. diskdrake is an impressive tool -- however i don't think it can resize partitions and preserve data. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Doni Nikolovski" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:08:37 AM 4/2/01 When I click on the Resize button in DiskDrake (after entering expert mode) during the installation of Mandrake 7.2, I get the following message: "this partition is not resizable". I have a single windows (win98) FAT32 partition that takes up the entire disk (19GB). I've run the windows utils 'defrag' and 'scandisk' (thorough scan), as well as Norton utils like speed disk and disk doctor before attempting the install. I've also tried the option that frees space on your windows partition but I get an error saying that I need to 'defrag' (but I did this before the install). I would appreciate any help or advice (I wish to run Linux along side windows). Thanks.
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake won't resize my partition
use FIPS. it will be needed to run in dos, but it is quite easy to use :-) AGM
RE: [newbie] Diskdrake question
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barb Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Diskdrake question I need to create another partition. When I run Diskdrake from KDE, it doesn't give me the option to resize the Windows partition. Now for my original setup, I used the special version of Partition Magic to resize. Any suggestions? I can go buy Partition Magic, I guess. I've used the old version many times, with sucess. Barb Why can't you use the PM SE to do it this time. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
[newbie] DiskDrake Question
I've got some empty space next to my Linux partition, and I'd like for Linux to have it all! Is DiskDrake supposed to be able to resize a partition without loss of data? -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Using Linux to get where I want to go...
[newbie] DiskDrake Question
I have a question about diskdrake... Is it a non-destructive partitioner or am I gonna have to buy partitionmagic? -Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake Question
yes, but if you use it to much, your hard-drive could be damaged. (You will have to use it for 100 times before that happends) And why do you want to BUY partitionmagic. You can download it from internet for free and it works fine. Nick DavinaICQ# 15178477http://www.evolnick.com - Original Message - From: Jamie Richard (Gamestation) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: [newbie] DiskDrake Question I have a question about diskdrake... Is it a non-destructive partitioner or am I gonna have to buy partitionmagic? -Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.webprovider.com
[newbie] DiskDrake
So I can install linux along with windows without destroying my data on the FAT32 partitions? -Jamie
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake
So I can install linux along with windows without destroying my data on the FAT32 partitions? Yes, this does work. I've tried it once with 7.0 successfully. I allowed DiskDrake to resize an 8 GB partition down to 2 GB. I don't know if I'd try it without a good backup, though. MB
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake Question
Nick Davina wrote: yes, but if you use it to much, your hard-drive could be damaged. (You will have to use it for 100 times before that happends)And why do you want to BUY partitionmagic. You can download it from internet for free and it works fine. Nick Davina ICQ# 15178477 http://www.evolnick.com - Original Message - From: Jamie Richard (Gamestation) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: [newbie] DiskDrake Question I have a question about diskdrake... Is it a non-destructive partitioner or am I gonna have to buy partitionmagic?[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Image] www.webprovider.com where have you downloaded it free? I have seen a demo, that doesn't actually modify anything.
[newbie] DiskDrake
I've read about DiskDrake before, but it did mention certain bugs that worry me: If a bug messes up an operation, my disk is toast. How reliable is it now? I'd prefer to adjust all my partitions while in Linux, but if forced I can flip to DOS mode and use PartitionMagic to take care of resizing. gtop reports some pretty bad misallocations of disk space... I think I'll shrink what I can and make room for a /usr/local/ partition. ___ Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] zap.to/andygoth/ UIN: 3525641
