Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D Well, I probably paid more then I should have for it 20 years ago. I used it on my first home computer. I had a LOT of programs on paper tape. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D Not worth it. Traditionally the earliest amateur computers were built out of Strowger relays and pinball machine parts. As for earliest micro- computer I have a friend who still has his 4004 based computer. (And for what it is worth perhaps the earliest micro-computer multitasking OS went into the OM-55 satcom modem for the Navy. It was built by Magnavox in Torrance back when 8080s were about $100-$150 a piece. On the other paw there may be something even older than that. But COSMAC ELF is a piker. Trust me on that one. Even my Processor Technology Sol PC is relatively new on the block compared to the first toys out there. (6502 based thingies need not apply. And I think the Sol PC design predated the COSMAC and F8 chips, too.) (I passed up acquiring a mostly built Altair when its owner died of pancreatic cancer. I was playing with bigger iron, some nice Hewlett Packard 8500 consoles based on their 2100S mini-computer. I built myself a nice interactive circuit analysis program. That was before They discovered I could commit software as well as design fancy Radio Frequency electronics. All of which is mooted by the couple people I know who built pinball machine and Strowger relay based things.) {^_-} Joanne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:04 am, jdow wrote: From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D Not worth it. Traditionally the earliest amateur computers were built out of Strowger relays and pinball machine parts. As for earliest micro- computer I have a friend who still has his 4004 based computer. (And for what it is worth perhaps the earliest micro-computer multitasking OS went into the OM-55 satcom modem for the Navy. It was built by Magnavox in Torrance back when 8080s were about $100-$150 a piece. On the other paw there may be something even older than that. But COSMAC ELF is a piker. Trust me on that one. Even my Processor Technology Sol PC is relatively new on the block compared to the first toys out there. (6502 based thingies need not apply. And I think the Sol PC design predated the COSMAC and F8 chips, too.) (I passed up acquiring a mostly built Altair when its owner died of pancreatic cancer. I was playing with bigger iron, some nice Hewlett Packard 8500 consoles based on their 2100S mini-computer. I built myself a nice interactive circuit analysis program. That was before They discovered I could commit software as well as design fancy Radio Frequency electronics. All of which is mooted by the couple people I know who built pinball machine and Strowger relay based things.) {^_-} Joanne I would love to look at your jnk box you have had some machines that I used to drool over in the pages of Computer Shopper (back when it was a freebie) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Monday 04 April 2005 04:47 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). But I had to run 10 miles uphill both ways 'cause that bear was chasing me :-D (first liar hasn't got a chance) ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) Mikkel -- Remember: Sometimes the dragon wins! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 15:56, Hugh Dixon wrote: [JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Did the Romans get to Brazil? Where do you think the Brazilians came from? Rome had been there. Etruscans had been there. Phoenicians had been there. Egyptians had been there. The Atlanteans had been there, the Polynesians had been there. Needless to say, though, I have inside information that Josenildo actually runs IBM OS/2 Warp4 and he's been pulling everyone's leg from the beginning of this annual exercise - just to get at Anne. Ugh! Stephen! You've been inside of Josenildo? Did you really have to mention it on the list? Yeesh! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows (Curios)
Just seen the April Fool stories on Linux Today and I see that some of them are dated/timed AFTER midday on 1st April, in my part of the world (Derby, U.K) tradition has it that the trick must be played before noon, anyone playing the trick after noon is traditionally the Fool. does the tradition change according to which part of the world you are in ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows (Curios)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just seen the April Fool stories on Linux Today and I see that some of them are dated/timed AFTER midday on 1st April, in my part of the world (Derby, U.K) tradition has it that the trick must be played before noon, anyone playing the trick after noon is traditionally the Fool. does the tradition change according to which part of the world you are in ? Poogle - Technically ,...No. But sometimes you have to allow for a bit of creative license. By the time some folks get out of bed, the rest of the world is way past noon. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Friday 01 April 2005 03:57 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 April 2005 12:11 am, riccardo wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2005 03:11 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: that a seemingly stupid message can bring out good memories ~ likewise, i too have best memories of TRS80 ~ it had terrific Manual , with interesting illustrations and great teaching method. I still have the manuals, a couple of model 3's and I think I still have a coco. best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 April 2005 04:22 am, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 03:57 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Nope a real man used the cassette tape drive. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] back to Windows
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 15:56 +1000, Hugh Dixon wrote: [JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Did the Romans get to Brazil? Of course ! That's why we speak Latin here ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:05:12 up 5:44, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.26, 0.21 ** A lembrança da vida da gente se guarda em trechos diversos, cada um com seu signo e sentimento, uns com os outros acho que nem não misturam. Contar seguido, alivanhado, só mesmo sendo as coisas de rasa importância. De cada vivimento que eu real tive, de alegria forte ou pesar, cada vez daquela hoje vejo que eu era como se fosse diferente pessoa. Sucedido desgovernado. Assim eu acho, assim é que eu conto. Riobaldo, Grande Sertão:Veredas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 13:20 -0600, Tom wrote: Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Does this mean no more pics ;( I don't often approve of OT list posts, but in the case of your pics, I'll make an exception. I'll leave it to you to post a link. Beautiful pics from Brazil folks. Josenildo is quite a photographer, besides being a knowledgeable gentleman Thanks for the kind words, Tom ! Needless to say that what I really meant in that message was exactly the contrary of its content. People always praise this list for being such a great help and it couldn't be different. It'll be always at its finest with great participants like yourself. -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:29:09 up 6:08, 2 users, load average: 1.40, 0.72, 0.43 ** Tudo, naquele tempo, e de cada banda que eu fosse, eram pessoas matando e morrendo, vivendo numa fúria firme, numa certeza, e eu não pertencia a razão nenhuma, não guardava fé e nem fazia parte. Riobaldo, Grande Sertão: Veredas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 13:22, Daniel Anderson wrote: With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Weren't they the double-density ones? I seem to remember 360k in the heady days of my first floppy drive - before that it was stretch audio tape. Of course my Spectrum had 48k RAM, whereas my first computer, ZX81 had 1k on board and 4k on an add-on pack that had to be strapped up with insultating tape to stop it wobbling and whiting everything out. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXMg1CF8jYB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 13:22, Daniel Anderson wrote: With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Weren't they the double-density ones? I seem to remember 360k in the heady days of my first floppy drive - before that it was stretch audio tape. Of course my Spectrum had 48k RAM, whereas my first computer, ZX81 had 1k on board and 4k on an add-on pack that had to be strapped up with insultating tape to stop it wobbling and whiting everything out. Anne 360k were the orginal one-sided 3.5 floppies. 720k were the one-sided high density ones :-). My first desktop was a Mac SE FDHD; i.e. the first Mac ever to come with a high density floppy drive :-). Betwen a whopping 1.4MB of space-per-floppy and a huge 20 MB hard disk, and the fully-upgrade 4 MB of RAM, I was all set! Makes me feel young though... 1k of RAM? Gee whiz. I guess there wasn't much eye candy, huh? :-P. SigmaX -- Registered Linux Freak #: 366,862 http://counter.li.org I'm a SDA... 'a who? you say? See below: http://www.religioustolerance.org/sda.htm Why?: http://www.matthewmcgee.org/prophesy.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 13:20, SigmaX wrote: Makes me feel young though... 1k of RAM? Gee whiz. I guess there wasn't much eye candy, huh? :-P. Eye candy? We built pictures from white blocks on the black screen! g It was almost 6 years after that when I got my first pc - with a monochrome green screen. I remember that awful sinking feeling when I saw the C:\ and didn't know what to do next. I also remember that there was no affordable software at first that did what I had been doing on the Spectrum - accounts, database, spreadsheets and so on. As for graphics - no way! Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpMSSUbVCWGa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Hello Anne, Why is it, that recently, that all your post come up as an attachment and are unreadable in the ordinary way? - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] back to Windows Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Anne Wilson wrote: We had a Computer Group in Huddersfield, rather like the LUGs today. We all carted down our heavyweights and plugged them in on trestle tables, with adapters on adapters g. On one occasion I actually had the output of another computer on my ZX81 screen! Anne Wow! That is impressive! I remember we used to connect Tandy 100 portables to a UNIX box and use them as rudimentary terminals while testing some comms software we were writing, but to do it with a ZX81! (bows and scrapes in obeisance to true geek divinity) The Spectrums were much easier to link up. Do you remember ZX-Net? And Red Box, where you could use the mains circuit for networking your Speccys? cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 13:22, Daniel Anderson wrote: With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Weren't they the double-density ones? I seem to remember 360k in the heady days of my first floppy drive - before that it was stretch audio tape. Of course my Spectrum had 48k RAM, whereas my first computer, ZX81 had 1k on board and 4k on an add-on pack that had to be strapped up with insultating tape to stop it wobbling and whiting everything out. Anne Like my Atari 8bit and the 1010 tape recorder. Awesome stuff! :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 20:48, Duncan Anderson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: We had a Computer Group in Huddersfield, rather like the LUGs today. We all carted down our heavyweights and plugged them in on trestle tables, with adapters on adapters g. On one occasion I actually had the output of another computer on my ZX81 screen! Anne Wow! That is impressive! I remember we used to connect Tandy 100 portables to a UNIX box and use them as rudimentary terminals while testing some comms software we were writing, but to do it with a ZX81! (bows and scrapes in obeisance to true geek divinity) Only one problem there - we did it by accident! The Spectrums were much easier to link up. Do you remember ZX-Net? And Red Box, where you could use the mains circuit for networking your Speccys? Only vaguely. I was never involved with either. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp3QF2m7UdFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 21:16, Noel McG. wrote: Hello Anne, Why is it, that recently, that all your post come up as an attachment and are unreadable in the ordinary way? Because you are using OE: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 and it seems that OE can't correctly handle GPG signed messages Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpF2JHndl7IE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:03:17 +0200 Duncan Anderson disseminated the following: Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing excrement in all directions... Ha! Maybe the dubya-fans-us-uber-alles list was over-subscribed and Mandrakeot collected the spillage? Careful now, they're awfully sensitive. Let's not see a friendly joke turn into a flamewar. I've never been a part of that, and never will be. Um, well, okay, there was this *one* time...EG -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:38:56 up 40 days, 21:45, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00 +++ Call on God, but row away from the rocks. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 April 2005 09:00 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2005 04:22 am, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 03:57 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Nope a real man used the cassette tape drive. Seems I remember a tape drive somewhere, but that may have been with the Timex sinclair. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 13:22, Daniel Anderson wrote: With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Or the 720k drives. Weren't they the double-density ones? I seem to remember 360k in the heady days of my first floppy drive - before that it was stretch audio tape. Of course my Spectrum had 48k RAM, whereas my first computer, ZX81 had 1k on board and 4k on an add-on pack that had to be strapped up with insultating tape to stop it wobbling and whiting everything out. Anne Actually it came with the 180k, which I replaced with 360k, then the 720k. I think the 720 was dd. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Bubbai troll - Original Message - From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:32 PM Subject: [newbie] back to Windows I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:27:49 up 15:09, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.26 ** O que não se pode falar, deve-se calar. Ludwing Wittgenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 10:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! I agree, but think I'll go back to Win98. I've had nothing but problems since I installed MDK here. -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 08:36:22 up 18 days, 13:11, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.08, 0.08 Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk Feb 5 13:27:01 trinity lp0 on fire -- the Linux kernel, alerting me that there was some unknown problem with my printer (ie, it was out of ink) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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gee, i wonder how he really feels? he shouldn't be so reluctant to voice his opinions; he leaves so much in doubt about his true emotions. on a more serious note, it might be interesting to know his actual reasons for his opinion; perhaps he'll enlighten us, though i get the impression he merely wanted to vent without looking for knowledge/help to fix the real/perceived problems. oh well. On Apr 1, 2005 10:32 AM, Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:27:49 up 15:09, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.26 ** O que não se pode falar, deve-se calar. Ludwing Wittgenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 10:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Everyone is intitled to their own opinion. Even if it is wrong. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 15:35, Anders Lind wrote: Bubbai troll - Original Message - From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:32 PM Subject: [newbie] back to Windows I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:27:49 up 15:09, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.26 ** O que não se pode falar, deve-se calar. Ludwing Wittgenstein But strangely, if you look at his website he has taken the trouble to include linux links and he has written about it at some length, although I'm afraid I don't read his language. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) Hehehe...well, Ronald you might be right there, but then again we get trolls here occassionally. /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Apr 1, 2005 9:43 AM, Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) Hehehe...well, Ronald you might be right there, but then again we get trolls here occassionally. What exactly do you mean by troll ? -- d33p th1nk3r Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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What exactly do you mean by troll ? A person that just post an inflammatory email with the only reason to start a fight /anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 09:43 am, Anders Lind wrote: Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) Hehehe...well, Ronald you might be right there, but then again we get trolls here occassionally. My guess is that it was a bit of astroturfing by a paid shill. The sig and website are provided merely to add credibility and make it look real. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 09:43 am, Anders Lind wrote: Hehehe...well, Ronald you might be right there, but then again we get trolls here occassionally. /Anders I know. It just seemed to coincidental... :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Something vexes thee? -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! So they have an april´s fool in Brazil too? :-) Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 Apr 2005 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But strangely, if you look at his website he has taken the trouble to include linux links and he has written about it at some length, although I'm afraid I don't read his language. Look for him in the archives, then look at the date. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpGwaCULXm5y.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Friday 01 April 2005 06:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying Guess I'll just have to drag out the old KIM-1 Yes those were the days 1Mhz and 4k of static RAM :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! once again you are all just jealous that he will get to enjoy all the hyper sucking action fun all by himself, having the courage to escape the social pressure of the self hating/torturing linux is c00l factor ;-) long live the sado/maso linux club. kind regards philippe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 06:59 am, Anders Lind wrote: What exactly do you mean by troll ? A person that just post an inflammatory email with the only reason to start a fight Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) /anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 06:59 am, Anders Lind wrote: What exactly do you mean by troll ? A person that just post an inflammatory email with the only reason to start a fight Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) /anders What some people must do to get publisity. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Philippe Landau wrote: Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! once again you are all just jealous that he will get to enjoy all the hyper sucking action fun all by himself, having the courage to escape the social pressure of the self hating/torturing linux is c00l factor ;-) long live the sado/maso linux club. kind regards philippe You guys DO realise that it's April Fools Day, yes? Methinks that you have been had! Big Time! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Apr 1, 2005 8:33 AM, Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys DO realise that it's April Fools Day, yes? Methinks that you have been had! Big Time! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Ya think? -- This message was sent from a GMail account. Please check the To: line on your reply to be sure the reply goes to the list, or use the reply to list option, if your mail client provides one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 08:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun just has to be had. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Hello, Perhaps those of you in the UK, also read the BMW advert in today's papers? - Original Message - From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: [newbie] back to Windows I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:27:49 up 15:09, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.26 ** O que não se pode falar, deve-se calar. Ludwing Wittgenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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... very entertaining, I was taken in totally, because as a month old newbie I went through that phase ... bought some Mandrake 10.1 disks ($6), they worked OK at first, but then degraded ... ended up with: (1) .. an old Mandrake Red Hat 6.0 that works on my desktop .. (2) .. a SUSE 9.2 working in VMWare on my laptop ... ended up downloading the 3.3gig .iso file, turns out VMWare can read the .iso file right off my hard drive, don't have to fool with burning CD's etc .. (3) ... the struggle getting from command mode to KDE in (1) above really taught me the Linux (UNIX) fundamentals, plus reading your wonderful mailing list each day ... (4) .. once you get into KDE, everything's a breeze ... HK -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:52 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject:Re: [newbie] back to Windows On Friday 01 April 2005 08:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun just has to be had. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 File: message.txt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 11:51 am, Dennis Myers wrote: carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun just has to be had. Couldn't help it - the old Atarian in me just lives for any excuse to wave the Never Say DIe banner of those who (still) follow the Fuji... grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:41:48 -0600 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Everyone is intitled to their own opinion. Even if it is wrong. BWAH! Busted! Check the date foo' ;-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:12:34 up 39 days, 16:18, 7 users, load average: 0.14, 0.10, 0.02 +++ We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world - bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are whores for power and oil with hate and fear in our hearts. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:57:04 -0500 Greg Meyer disseminated the following: My guess is that it was a bit of astroturfing by a paid shill. The sig and website are provided merely to add credibility and make it look real. Keep diggin', Greg, maybe you'll strike gold! LOL! I love it Josenildo, keep up the good work. Seems some of the Uber Geeks on the list need some time off... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:16:30 up 39 days, 16:22, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.02 +++ Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:33:01 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing excrement in all directions... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:19:32 up 39 days, 16:25, 7 users, load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.01 +++ Some may never live, but the crazy never die. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 11:20 am, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:33:01 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing excrement in all directions... O diums get spanked ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:51:43 -0600 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun just has to be had. You don't need to look at the date, look at the OP. Anyone else I mighta believed it, but not JM, man, no way. That's why I'm surprised a coupla 'old timers' got caught. Heh. -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:21:31 up 39 days, 16:27, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 +++ He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Does this mean no more pics ;( I don't often approve of OT list posts, but in the case of your pics, I'll make an exception. I'll leave it to you to post a link. Beautiful pics from Brazil folks. Josenildo is quite a photographer, besides being a knowledgeable gentleman BTW, thanks for the 4/1 laff ;) Now this one _is_ serious Adding what is perhaps its most significant member to date, the Open Source Development Labs (OSDL) has announced that longtime open source opponent Microsoft is joining its ranks, giving Eric Raymond a seat on the Microsoft Board of Directors and agreeing to a sweeping intellectual property agreement this week. OSDL said that after several hours of intense negotiations, officials of the center of gravity for Linux and open source had brokered the deal with Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, who downplayed the membership of a proprietary software maker in an open source organization. http://www.newsforge.com/articles/05/03/31/1219223.shtml?tid=149 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 02:20 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:33:01 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing excrement in all directions... Actually some really interesting info gets tossed back and forth there - as well as some... stuff. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:32:17 -0500, Josenildo wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Ya, screw Linux. Now, where did I put that abacus...? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 01:44 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:20:50 -0600 Tom disseminated the following: Eric Raymond a seat on the Microsoft Board of Directors ROFL! Now *that* I'd like to see...an ill-tempered and well-armed anarchist in a room full of pissant corporate bureaucrats (soon to be a room *empty* of said pissants, 'least any live ones). This should be fun to follow OTH remember Abbie Hoffman wound up as a Wall Street Stockbroker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Friday 01 April 2005 02:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:57:04 -0500 Greg Meyer disseminated the following: My guess is that it was a bit of astroturfing by a paid shill. The sig and website are provided merely to add credibility and make it look real. Keep diggin', Greg, maybe you'll strike gold! LOL! I love it Josenildo, keep up the good work. Seems some of the Uber Geeks on the list need some time off... heh... /me hangs head in shame. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:47:50 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: This should be fun to follow OTH remember Abbie Hoffman wound up as a Wall Street Stockbroker ...you *do* realize it's another 'April Fools', no? Quote: Articles: Humor Microsoft joins OSDL, frees Linux of liability They spelled 'humour' wrong, but you get the idea ;-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:17:24 up 39 days, 20:23, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 +++ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Friday 01 April 2005 23:44, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:20:50 -0600 Tom disseminated the following: Eric Raymond a seat on the Microsoft Board of Directors ROFL! Now *that* I'd like to see...an ill-tempered and well-armed anarchist in a room full of pissant corporate bureaucrats (soon to be a room *empty* of said pissants, 'least any live ones). Maybe it's ESR who came up with this : http://humorix.org/articles/2005/03/april-fools/ Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Apr 1, 2005 1:18 PM, Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Congratulations, Josenildo! Two years running! http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg155652.html You'd hope they all have learned to read the date by now... ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!! ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I dunno, Margot. I didn't see anyone who fell for it last year, falling for it this time 'round. Of course I didn't go through the entire message archive from last year's joke. Mark -- This message was sent from a GMail account. Please check the To: line on your reply to be sure the reply goes to the list, or use the reply to list option, if your mail client provides one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 16:06 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 01 Apr 2005 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But strangely, if you look at his website he has taken the trouble to include linux links and he has written about it at some length, although I'm afraid I don't read his language. Look for him in the archives, then look at the date. Anne I couldn't resist the temptation to send my annual joke... -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 22:04:34 up 1:38, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.25, 0.24 ** Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. Oscar Wilde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 14:23 -0500, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:51:43 -0600 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun just has to be had. You don't need to look at the date, look at the OP. Anyone else I mighta believed it, but not JM, man, no way. That's why I'm surprised a coupla 'old timers' got caught. Heh. Thus spake the great JoeHill !! It's always nice to hear from you. -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 22:06:26 up 1:40, 1 user, load average: 1.19, 0.43, 0.30 ** Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. Oscar Wilde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 12:57 -0800, Aron Smith wrote: Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days! carefully looking at todays date before replying :-) I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-) Dan I find it amazing that a seemingly stupid message can bring out good memories... It's exactly how people react which is interesting... -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 22:08:14 up 1:42, 1 user, load average: 0.61, 0.48, 0.33 ** Jamais encontrei um homem que não tivesse mais desejos do que necessidade. Voltaire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Friday 01 April 2005 07:05 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 16:06 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 01 Apr 2005 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But strangely, if you look at his website he has taken the trouble to include linux links and he has written about it at some length, although I'm afraid I don't read his language. Look for him in the archives, then look at the date. Anne I couldn't resist the temptation to send my annual joke... Still last year the thread got wilder :-D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 17:10 +0200, M.Schild wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! So they have an april´s fool in Brazil too? :-) Maryse Maryse -- ça va bien ? I think I'll need you help with a song... My French is rusty... -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 22:11:43 up 1:46, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.28, 0.27 ** As idéias dominantes de uma época sempre foram as idéias da classe dominante. Karl Marx e Friedrich Engels Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Friday 01 April 2005 09:05 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 16:06 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 01 Apr 2005 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But strangely, if you look at his website he has taken the trouble to include linux links and he has written about it at some length, although I'm afraid I don't read his language. Look for him in the archives, then look at the date. Anne I couldn't resist the temptation to send my annual joke... IIRC last year caught about the same number of people in the net, difference is for me anyway is this year I was one of them. Old, retired and lost track of what day it was. That is my story and I'm sticken' to it. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] back to Windows
Actually, I'm at a crossroad to switch from windows (for 10 years, since win 3.1.1) to Linux (mandrake 10.0) also, for cost benefit, and the fact is become clear and more every time, that Linux must be paid or something also. Jose opinion might come as the final result from who ... tired to waiting the solid rock, ready to use Free Linux as I wish someday. Yours truly, Susanto -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josenildo Marques Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:32 PM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] back to Windows I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 11:27:49 up 15:09, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.26 ** O que não se pode falar, deve-se calar. Ludwing Wittgenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] What exactly do you mean by troll ? A person that just post an inflammatory email with the only reason to start a fight /anders If you apply for a return of your leg with proper respect and humility I am sure it will be returned, Anders. {^_-} Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
From: M.Schild [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! So they have an april´s fool in Brazil too? :-) Maryse [JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Saturday 02 April 2005 03:11 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: that a seemingly stupid message can bring out good memories ~ likewise, i too have best memories of TRS80 ~ it had terrific Manual , with interesting illustrations and great teaching method. best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] back to Windows
[JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Did the Romans get to Brazil? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
From: Hugh Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Did the Romans get to Brazil? [JDOW] Rumor has it that this ancient Roman (and perhaps earlier) tradition may have made it to Brazil via Portugal. A lot of other things may have, too. But that's only rumor. I didn't see if with my own eyes. (I'm ancient, but not THAT ancient.) {^_-} Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] back to Windows
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 15:56, Hugh Dixon wrote: [JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Did the Romans get to Brazil? Where do you think the Brazilians came from? Rome had been there. Etruscans had been there. Phoenicians had been there. Egyptians had been there. The Atlanteans had been there, the Polynesians had been there. Needless to say, though, I have inside information that Josenildo actually runs IBM OS/2 Warp4 and he's been pulling everyone's leg from the beginning of this annual exercise - just to get at Anne. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- What foods these morsels be! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
From: riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 02 April 2005 03:11 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: that a seemingly stupid message can bring out good memories ~ likewise, i too have best memories of TRS80 ~ it had terrific Manual , with interesting illustrations and great teaching method. I had a Processor Technology Sol PC, which morphed into a more normal S100 bus machine that I used until a short while after 19851102, the birth date of my Amiga 1000. I adopted Amigas to my heart - and still rather like them and their UI innovations. (Liked Amigas so much I even added a Linux kernel hack for correctly reading Amiga hard disk partitions. That was easy since I wrote the most commonly used Amiga hard disk partitioning tool.) {^_-}(Yeah, I am THAT jdow.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:33:01 -0800 Aron Smith disseminated the following: Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-) If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing excrement in all directions... Ha! Maybe the dubya-fans-us-uber-alles list was over-subscribed and Mandrakeot collected the spillage? ;-] cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] back to Windows
-Original Message- From: Stephen Kühn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2005 4:00 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] back to Windows On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 15:56, Hugh Dixon wrote: [JDOW] April Fools has existed since the days of the Roman Empire. {^_-} Did the Romans get to Brazil? Where do you think the Brazilians came from? Rome had been there. Etruscans had been there. Phoenicians had been there. Egyptians had been there. The Atlanteans had been there, the Polynesians had been there. Needless to say, though, I have inside information that Josenildo actually runs IBM OS/2 Warp4 and he's been pulling everyone's leg from the beginning of this annual exercise - just to get at Anne. Good. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any inaccurate information in this thread ;) Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com