[newbie-it] unsubscrive
Re: [newbie-it] unsubscrive - come rinmuoversi dalla lista
andrea wrote: 1) in inglese la parola nel suject finisce per Be e non per Ve :-) 2) e` una parola proibita nei messaggi a ML per evitare che il traffico aministrativo venga inoltrato a tutti gli aderenti invece che al robot che gestisce la lista. Se aveste scritto la parola corretta vi sarebbe tornato un messaggio con le istruzioni sul da fare. 3) per rimuoversi, bisogna scrivere al robot che gestisce la lista (NON alla lista) o andare sull'apposita pagina del sito Mandrake http://www.linux-mandrake.com/it/flists.php3 ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Modem non funzionante
Davide Giacomazzi wrote: Ciao a tutti e viva linux. Il mio unico problema, con Mandrake 7.2, è che non riesco a configurare la connessione Internet con un modem chippato Rockwell installato su COM1. La configurazione non trova il modem su nessuna porta; devo fare qualcosa di particolare ? Su COM1 significa sulla porta seriale /dev/ttyS0? In quel caso, lancia kppp, fai la configurazione (abbastanza intuitiva) e quando arrivi alla scheda relativa al modem premi il tasto interroga modem. Dovrebbe fare tutto da solo. Se il tuo modem e` stato pensato per il mercato americano e non italiano, vai nella scheda comandi modem e aggiungi X3 alla stringa di inizializzazione. In tutto dovra` essere qualcosa tipo. ATF1X3 (la parte F1 varia da modem a modem). Se invece e` un modem interno PCI con chipset Rockwell, puoi solo cercare di cambiarlo. ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Stampanti
Unico neo: la stampante: una laser Canon LBP 800 beh, le stampanti la MDK le configura durante l'installazionepero' ha un sistema di configurazione molto pratico (ovvero che funziona ma non so perche' :) ): io ho una HP 690C series printer (cassone) e se scelgo i driver LPR non succede nulla e non me la vede. Se scelgo i driver CUPS dopo avere scelto i LPR me la vede ma se scelgo i CUPS senza avere scelto la LPR non accade nulla ? cmq ripeto, o usi drakconf o nell'installazione ciao Alessandro
Re: [newbie-it] staroffice
Ho avuto anche io lo stesso problema con Star Office 5.1 Inoltre non riesco ad istallare il programma zip dai cd della Mandrake 8.0 che sarebbe invece necessario all'istallazione di StaOffice. Spero che qualcuno abbia risolto il problema. Grazie Giuseppe Foti At 23.29 30/06/01 +0200, you wrote: da quando ho installato la Mandrale 8.0 non riesco più installare Star office 5.2 e nemmeno OpenOffice. Con la Mandrake 7.2, 7.1 e 7.0 non ho mai avuto problemi. I pc si inchioda appena lancio l'installazione cliccando su avanti alla prima schermata. Qualcuno può aiutarmi. grazie Adolfo
Re: [newbie-it] Gimp e gtk
Il 22:24, lunedì 02 luglio 2001, CaMiX scrisse: Aiuto! Un'altra cosa: come si fa ad eseguire il find da shell riferendolo solo agli esguibili? A memoria non ricordo, ma tenete presente che tutte le opzioni di un certo comando si possono trovare (quasi sempre) facendo man nomecomando (nel tuo caso: man find) ...ossia... RTFM :))) -- Fabio Coatti http://www.ferrara.linux.it/members/cova Ferrara Linux Users Group http://ferrara.linux.it GnuPG fp:9765 A5B6 6843 17BC A646 BE8C FA56 373A 5374 C703 Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password.
Re: [newbie-it] Soundblaster 128 e Epson Stylus Photo 870
Il 19:10, sabato 30 giugno 2001, hai scritto: Caro mio hai fatto centro! Grande, ora funge. Poi proverò a vedere per la stampante. Ma conosci qualcuno che riesca a stampare come su Winzozz con una qualche stampante? Ancora grazie 1000 Adios CamiX Ciao CamiX, sono contento di aver fatto centro... ;) Quasi sempre la soluzione per quel problema è disabilitare il PnP OS Installed... Per quanto riguarda la stampante, non so: la mia esperienza diretta è buona per la stampa di testo. Ma quando ho provato ad aumentare nelle impostazioni della stampante la risoluzione di stampa, ho sempre ottenuto una lentezza disumana. Ho sentito, però, più di qualcuno in rete affermare che la sua stampante (di solito proprio modelli Epson) stampava sotto Linux *molto meglio* che sotto Windows... Non ho fatto molte prove, finora, quindi non escludo che si possa risolvere il problema con qualche opportuno settaggio... Se risolvo il problema, ti faccio sapere (tramite la ML)! Ciao... Daniele
Re: [newbie-it] Soundblaster 128 e Epson Stylus Photo 870
On Monday 02 July 2001 09:36, you wrote: Ho sentito, però, più di qualcuno in rete affermare che la sua stampante (di solito proprio modelli Epson) stampava sotto Linux *molto meglio* che sotto Windows... ahem io non l'ho mai detto ma in effetti.. certo ho una epson 440, non nuova (quindi ormai ha driver ben funzionanti) e non cosi' splendida ma in effetti nelle stampe a colori (col gimp-print) stampa come se non meglio di windows. bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia www.acidlife.com/~freefred Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://62.149.147.100/~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: [newbie-it] staroffice
On Monday 02 July 2001 14:57, you wrote: Ho avuto anche io lo stesso problema con Star Office 5.1 Inoltre non riesco ad istallare il programma zip dai cd della Mandrake 8.0 che sarebbe invece necessario all'istallazione di StaOffice. Spero che qualcuno abbia risolto il problema. Grazie Giuseppe Foti At 23.29 30/06/01 +0200, you wrote: da quando ho installato la Mandrale 8.0 non riesco più installare Star office 5.2 e nemmeno OpenOffice. Con la Mandrake 7.2, 7.1 e 7.0 non ho mai avuto problemi. I pc si inchioda appena lancio l'installazione cliccando su avanti alla prima schermata. Qualcuno può aiutarmi. grazie Adolfo Io ho installato StarOffice 5.2 senza nessun problema...
Re: [newbie-it] Lancio di comandi al boot
Il 20:36, lunedì 02 luglio 2001, hai scritto: Salve a tutti, il mio problema e' il seguente: dovrei far lanciare al boot il comando ifconfig eth0 mtu 1444, dove devo specificarlo ? uso Mandrake 8.0, Grazie a chi mi rispondera' !! Ciao !! Mettilo in fondo allo script /etc/rc.d/rc.local Ciao, Andrea.
Re: [newbie-it] Soundblaster 128 e Epson Stylus Photo 870
Il 22:18, lunedì 02 luglio 2001, hai scritto: On Monday 02 July 2001 09:36, you wrote: Ho sentito, però, più di qualcuno in rete affermare che la sua stampante (di solito proprio modelli Epson) stampava sotto Linux *molto meglio* che sotto Windows... ahem io non l'ho mai detto ma in effetti.. certo ho una epson 440, non nuova (quindi ormai ha driver ben funzionanti) e non cosi' splendida ma in effetti nelle stampe a colori (col gimp-print) stampa come se non meglio di windows. bye ... e per quanto riguarda la velocità? Il mio problema non è tanto la qualità, ma il fatto che se imposto una qualità di stampa medio-alta (diciamo dai 360 dpi in su, quindi nemmeno così eccezionale...) ottengo una velocità di stampa che definirla velocità è un eufemismo... ;-) Ho forse sbagliato qualche settaggio? Daniele
Re: [newbie-it] staroffice
Il 20:17, lunedì 02 luglio 2001, hai scritto: Io ho installato StarOffice 5.2 senza nessun problema... Ciao a tutti, scusate per l'ingenuità della domanda. Io ho il Power Pack originale della Mandrake 7.2, ma ora sto usando la Mandrake 8.0. Posso installare sulla 8.0 i pacchetti RPM di StarOffice 5.2 presi dai CD della 7.2? Grazie in anticipo per la risposta... Daniele
R: [newbie-it] Modem non funzionante
Grazie per l'informazione, ma essendo io un newbie di Linux, dove trovo kppp e come lo lancio ? -Messaggio originale- Da: Andrea Celli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: lunedì 2 luglio 2001 10.20 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] Modem non funzionante Davide Giacomazzi wrote: Ciao a tutti e viva linux. Il mio unico problema, con Mandrake 7.2, è che non riesco a configurare la connessione Internet con un modem chippato Rockwell installato su COM1. La configurazione non trova il modem su nessuna porta; devo fare qualcosa di particolare ? Su COM1 significa sulla porta seriale /dev/ttyS0? In quel caso, lancia kppp, fai la configurazione (abbastanza intuitiva) e quando arrivi alla scheda relativa al modem premi il tasto interroga modem. Dovrebbe fare tutto da solo. Se il tuo modem e` stato pensato per il mercato americano e non italiano, vai nella scheda comandi modem e aggiungi X3 alla stringa di inizializzazione. In tutto dovra` essere qualcosa tipo. ATF1X3 (la parte F1 varia da modem a modem). Se invece e` un modem interno PCI con chipset Rockwell, puoi solo cercare di cambiarlo. ciao, Andrea
[newbie-it] Lancio di comandi al boot
Salve a tutti, il mio problema e' il seguente: dovrei far lanciare al boot il comando ifconfig eth0 mtu 1444, dove devo specificarlo ? uso Mandrake 8.0, Grazie a chi mi rispondera' !! Ciao !!
Re: FW: [newbie] curious ....
On Sunday, Jul 01, 2001, Jose Mirles wrote: Also, if Ms are so full of innovation, why is hotmail (a microsoft service) still using freebsd servers? and why has microsoft admitted nicking freebsd code for their own apps?? MS is full of innovation. Thanks to them millions upon million of users can now use a PC. OS2 didn't do that, neither did UNIX or Linux. It was Windows 3.1 that started it and Windows 95 that really made PC's sell. I may not like MS, but I can not denied their kudos. Well, technically, we all know they stole the idea of Windows from Apple (which was based on the idea of the mouse from Xerox)... they just have a much better marketing department. -- Paul Cox paul at coxcentral dot com Kernel: 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pcox - Uptime: 1 day 23 hours 24 minutes.
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
- Original Message - From: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Use of Linux My primary OS at this point it Win 2k, but dual booting with MD 8 on one of my systems. But even on my Win system I operate 100 % of the time as a user with administrative priviledges. I suppose this is somewhat risky but is worth the aggravation to me. I have it set so I don't even have to log in...it just goes right to my desktop from boot. MD will do this for a user but not sure about root. One of Win 2k's best points other then NT security is the included backup program which I have learned to use religiously and often. I'm not even sure how to start backing up Linux yet. But even if I blow the entire OS up in Windoze and have to reload the initial OS which I find unlikely I can have it back to it's present state in a few minutes using the backup program on another harddrive. I should use a tape drive but the hard drive is so fast it's hard to beat. Linux loads fast and easy initially from what I've seen. The point I'm making is wouldn't it be easier to just figure out how to backup the system properly and find or have the experts design a program that will do this similiarly to win 2K and be able to relax a bit on being logged in as root. This program may already exist for all I know. One of the things I find a bit confusing is I wish the file managers would show you what directories are mounted on what drive. I made a extra linux partition on my last install trying to have some backup and mounted the home directory on it. But now I'm confused because there are 2 home directories it appears. One under /root and one under / and I'm not even sure which one I have mounted on the separate partition now! Tazmun - Original Message - From: Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: C.Heaven [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Use of Linux hey - being a relative linux newbie i also once switched to the always logging in as root method. i figured the same, im the only user and i am always logging in as su to do stuff anyhow so... well, after once having to ctrl alt backspace out of xwindows and subsequently loosing my whole linux install, and then later suffering ap owerloss and again losing my whole system both while logged in as root i realized the wisdom of logging in as user and then becoming su when i need to. actually between using alt f2 to run any program you want as root and the fact that mandrake 8.0 is much better at recognizing when you need to be root and prompting you for the password it isn't that much of a burden. speaking of mac, i'm curious, how does osx handle this (anyone know?) i can imagine them wanting to be as user simple as possible (ie. for software installs etc) but still maintaining the *nix system. matt --- C.Heaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On June 30, 2001 02:43 pm, you wrote: SNIP After getting mightily annoyed at having to run su in a console or run Super User file managers or give my root password time after time in order to run Mandrake Control Center or other root-only utilities, I now log in all the time as root. Before the geekoids on the list warn me of my impending eternal damnation,g let me explain my reasoning: I am the sole user. I am thus both root and judy (the only user). If I want to do something that will affect the all-important system files, I'm going to do it whether I'm logged in as user or root. So working as user does nothing but make me jump through more hoops to do what I'm going to do anyway. Why not avoid the hassle and work as root all the time? One password per session and no consoles for su-ing, I can unmount my Zip disks at will, I can deal with all files in all file managers, I can edit what I need to, I can install programs without problems. See, these security features can't stay the way they are if Linux is to attract even the Mac's share of the desktop market. Home business and consumer users will react the way I did and just get fed up and abandon Linux if they have to go through these endless permissions, logins, and passwords to manage their systems. In a home system, you're constantly installing or upgrading software or making changes to your display or your hardware. Any consumer GUI has to accommodate such usage, which is nothing at all like what a larger network requires. begin sarcastic comment Perhaps you should forward your comments to Microsoft in order to save their impending doom on the desktop due to implementing the very same super user concept in their NT based operating systems. end sarcastic comment
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
- Original Message - From: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose Mirles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Use of Linux Then I think somewhere you missing the point. We know what it was originally intended for, but the modern Linux in my opinion is aimed at doing exactly that...being a single users primary OS. Nothing ever stays the same. If it does, it dies, I believe that to be universal law. If not for that law I wouldn't be trying so hard to figure out Linux because actually I'm a happy camper with Win 2K. But for how long will that be adequate? I'm guessing that I may be able to coast there until 2004 or 2005 at the longest. The base OS is greatbut Microsoft will not be happy leaving that alone so everyone of their updates is suspect to adding similiar technology that went into XP. IE 6 was a perfect example of that. Actually, it is not well said. Unix was never meant to be a single user's OS. It was then and now meant to be a networking OS. Thus the reason for the security features.
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
I suppose burden is in the eye of the beholder. I find constant typing of the root password to be annoying in the extreme and results in a fair amount of lost time if you have to do this several times in a few hours. Especially when it is a really goofy file name with dozens of agravating numbers and underscores altenating with dashes.ag!!! I couple of clicks would be so heavenlylol. Tazmun
Re: [newbie] Use of Linux
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 02:05, C.Heaven wrote: On June 30, 2001 02:43 pm, you wrote: SNIP After getting mightily annoyed at having to run su in a console or run Super User file managers or give my root password time after time in order to run Mandrake Control Center or other root-only utilities, I now log in all the time as root. Before the geekoids on the list warn me of my impending eternal damnation,g let me explain my reasoning: I am the sole user. I am thus both root and judy (the only user). If I want to do something that will affect the all-important system files, I'm going to do it whether I'm logged in as user or root. So working as user does nothing but make me jump through more hoops to do what I'm going to do anyway. Why not avoid the hassle and work as root all the time? One password per session and no consoles for su-ing, I can unmount my Zip disks at will, I can deal with all files in all file managers, I can edit what I need to, I can install programs without problems. See, these security features can't stay the way they are if Linux is to attract even the Mac's share of the desktop market. Home business and consumer users will react the way I did and just get fed up and abandon Linux if they have to go through these endless permissions, logins, and passwords to manage their systems. In a home system, you're constantly installing or upgrading software or making changes to your display or your hardware. Any consumer GUI has to accommodate such usage, which is nothing at all like what a larger network requires. begin sarcastic comment Perhaps you should forward your comments to Microsoft in order to save their impending doom on the desktop due to implementing the very same super user concept in their NT based operating systems. end sarcastic comment Restricted super user authority is a hallmark of *NIX, and is one of the primary reasons it is so stable. Microsoft recognized this when they went to work on NT, and carried on w/ the practice thorugh Win2k. Regardless of the crap coming w/ XP one major advancement is the same multi-user/permission based concept. The bottom line is that the majority of PC users who claim to be proficient know jack, and need to be protected from themselves more than anything else. This is one of the primary reasons our company deploys Win2k on the desktop - to stop users from trashing their systems, and then requiring us to fix their mistakes. We promote the very same practice to home users in order to prevent kids, or other family members from installing some piece of hellware that guts Windows. Don't hold your breath waiting for Linux distributors to remove su, and permission based file structures. Not only would such a distro be non POSIX compliant, no self respecting *NIX vendor would abuse such a time proven and effective model. If this concept had of been implemented in the 9x line of products (even though the underlying technology is absolute junk) I can hardly imagine how astronomical the world wide productivity gains would have been over the past seven years - compared to what has actually transpired. Considering you just started using *NIX I guess it isn't fair to expect you to fully understand, and respect the benefits of POSIX. However, I will bet a dime to a dollar that if you continue using *NIX, and don't respect it's structure you will end up w/ an unstable operating system just like Win 9x. SNIP Regards, SpeedMan Having a separate root user also enhances network (including Internet) security. If a cracker manages to enter your system as a normal user, (s)he will have to also gain rot access in order to actually do any damage. Before you give the common response why would anyone hack into my computer?, let me inform you that most crackers do mot crack into machines to steal your information. Most crackers will use your computer as a staging ground to issue denial of service attacks against other computers, using automated trojan horses like the WinDOS SubSeven trojan. These crackers crack into literally hundreds of home computers and leave their small barely detectable trojan. They can then command all these computers to attack a specific target -- all at once. The sheer volume of data sent from these computers to this one site can be enough to bring it down. This is the main reason why Internet security is everyone's responsibility. If you find that typing a simple password is so annoying, take a look at kdesu and sudo. The former is integrated via KDE and can be configured via the KDE Control Centre. It can be set so that once the root password is given to run a specific application within a specific user's account, it will not have to be typed again for a predetermined amount of time. It can be called via desktop and menu icons (e.g. kdesu kpackage). Sudo can give temporary limited root privileges to a user. The amount of
RE: FW: [newbie] curious ....
On Monday, July 02, 2001 3:46 AM, Franki [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: oh yeah, I meant to respond to this as well.. MS is full of innovation. Thanks to them millions upon million of users can now use a PC. OS2 didn't do that, neither did UNIX or Linux. It was Windows 3.1 that started it and Windows 95 that really made PC's sell. I may not like MS, but I can not denied their kudos. thats not innovation, its marketing MS's marketing companys costs them a half a billion a year, and they earn every cent.. Apparently and for the sake of the lawyers allegedly the 95 in Win95 wasn't just the year of release, it was also the percentage of M$ total investment in the product (including development) that was spent on marketing.
[newbie] configure
I tried to install A program with ./configure , make ,make install. During ./configure I get an error: [root@drakehut kdvd-0.1]# ./configure loading cache ./config.cache checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! What to do about it? Thanks, Gerard
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
tazmun wrote: I suppose burden is in the eye of the beholder. I find constant typing of the root password to be annoying in the extreme and results in a fair amount of lost time if you have to do this several times in a few hours. Especially when it is a really goofy file name with dozens of agravating numbers and underscores altenating with dashes.ag!!! I couple of clicks would be so heavenlylol. Tazmun The long files are well - way t lng. I found that once I have typed the name in, I use my arrow keys to show the same command and file name. And, when dealing with .bin file installations, you just have to type in ./myfile rather than ./mylongfilename Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility
Re: [newbie] Has anyone bought an Agenda VR3 Yet?
Hugh wrote: If anyone has can you please write me off list Thanks Go to the following link and follow the instructions Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: Fwd: Out of Office AutoReply: [newbie] Sound In Yahoo! Messenger???
Curtis/Civileme: Some companies require the usage of the Out of Office AutoReply feature, and it appears that Compaq is one of them. IMHO, it's a Very Good Thing in a corporate environment, although it can be a nuisance if the person is on a maillist. Since I'm retired now and no longer have access to Outlook Explorer (ain't that a damn shame), I don't know if there are settings that will prevent replying to some messages based on e-mail addresses, but stopping these messages at the source is probably the best remedy. Regards, Carroll Best thing about retirement: Every day is Saturday. civileme wrote: On Sunday 01 July 2001 02:56, Curtis Matthiesen wrote: I also get this message from this fellow everytime I post to the mailing list, does anyone know how I can stop getting these as they're annoying as heck. TIA Curtis From: Wehling, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip snip Well, you might have a filter capability with hotmail. I have never used them, so I don't know. If you have a pop3 type account and you use anything from pine to Kmail to pick up mail you have either filter rules or the name to drop into a kill folder. But the best way to deal with the situation is to write to the person who set up the autoreply, as soon as he is back in his office and inform him _courteously_ of the problem he probably wasn't aware he was causing. Civileme
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
On Monday 02 July 2001 09:39, you wrote: Hi, I learned this little trick right here. If you are typing a long file name, just type in the first three or four letters, then hit the Esc key twice. Autocomplete fills in the rest. If there are two or more files with the same name up to a point (ie: different versions) the autocomplete will fill in the name to the point where you have to make a choice between the different files. This list is a real learning experience! Regards, Bill W. The long files are well - way t lng. I found that once I have typed the name in, I use my arrow keys to show the same command and file name. And, when dealing with .bin file installations, you just have to type in ./myfile rather than ./mylongfilename Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility
[newbie] LISa configuration
I think I'm doing well, i've got my w98se box speaking to mandrake 8 accessing my samba shares (encrypt password = yes helps!!). The problem i have now is that i'm struggling to get Linux box to access w98 shares. I have tried 'browsing network' using LISa and reLISa in KDE. However, no joy. Basically the problem is that i don't really know what information to give it. I am attempting to configure in KDE Control centre, - Look n Feel - Lan Browsing. Is there a way i can mount the w98 shares on the linux box? how would i go about doing this. Or betting yet does anyone know of any good websites which give help. (i like to learn rather than follow blindly) Cheers Jamie _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
[newbie] how does the rc#.d work
Am I right to assume that based on the run level that you set in your inittab that that determines what series of rc.d scripts will get run? For example, if I have my run level set to 3 (non-graphical login), then the scripts in rc3.d will get ran, if I have it set to 5 (XWindows) then rc5.d will get invoked?
[newbie] rpmdrake problem
I was trying to set up rpmdrake to pull the rpms from another directory. I followed the instructions in the manual but there seemed to be a problem since it was taking so long. Apparently I just didn't wait long enough. I killed the process and now rpmdrake doesn't work at all. As soon as I start the app it dies and I get a message on the console saying: Error: can't build the groups list. I saw in the archive that someone had a similar problem earlier but the final solution was never posted. I've reinstalled rpmdrake but the problem persists. Any ideas? Thanks. Jeff Chapman Software Engineer Registered Linux User #218160
[newbie] sound.
I hope someone can tell me what is going on with my sound. When I start KDE I used to get a little sound file playing, now I get nothing. When I look at /dev I see the following highlighted in red and flashing: snd - ../proc/asound/dev What is the highlighting and flashing trying to tell me? Thanks. TC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] nvidia drivers
I just did an install of 8.0 and from what I've read I don't think that I want to use the 1251 drivers. (VIA chipset) :-( Anyone know where I can find the 769 drivers? Also, what is the best way to deal with the KDM problem? What are the alternatives? Right now I have it set up to auto login when I boot up. Thanks TC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] 3com 509 on Mandrake 8.0
Hi, I have my computer working fine with Mandrake 7.1. I re-installed Mandrake 8.0 and I could not get working my 3COM 509B ETHERLINK III COMBO ISA PnP network card. Can you help me? Renato -- Renato Tognaccini, Dipartimento di Progettazione Aeronautica, Universita` di Napoli Federico II, Piazzale V. Tecchio 80, 80125 Napoli, ITALIA. tel.: +39-0817682179 fax: +39-0817682187 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Kmail question
~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:32, Jim Kempton wrote: Hey all Is there a Kmail config file wherin is stored all the settings PARTICULARLY filter rules? If so, uh, where is it please. When I back up I wanna back this up too. TIA Jim -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: FW: [newbie] curious ....
Take a look at http://www.98lite.net. It can install Windows without IE, or strip IE away from an installed system. It can even replace the Windows Explorer file manager in 98 and ME with their 95 equivalent (which is far less bloated and more stable). Of course, MS don't like this (it was apparently used in court by the DOJ to prove that IE *wasn't* an integral part of the OS as they said it was), and using it will void your EULA. If you *must* use Windos (I still keep it around just in case I mess up Mandrake), 98lite is *the* best way to stabilise and speed it up. On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:55, steve campbell wrote: snip for sanity's sake I have one thing to say if MS don't force ie on people. prove that to me by installeding ME without it. Pratt. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: FW: [newbie] curious ....
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:45, Franki wrote: oh yeah, I meant to respond to this as well.. MS is full of innovation. Thanks to them millions upon million of users can now use a PC. OS2 didn't do that, neither did UNIX or Linux. It was Windows 3.1 that started it and Windows 95 that really made PC's sell. I may not like MS, but I can not denied their kudos. thats not innovation, its marketing MS's marketing companys costs them a half a billion a year, and they earn every cent.. MS, I must admit, did a great job of putting a computer on every desk in every home (Bill Gates). In the more developed nations, this is mostly a reality, hence the saturated market that has been a (one of many) cause of the technology market slump. It can be argued that the markets in poorer nations are mostly saturated as well, since most people cannot afford to pay the Microsoft Tax on top of their hardware (if they can even afford that). Now is the time for Windows to move over, for it has outlived its usefulness. A key to the revival of the global ecomomy, IMHO, is cheaper software -- exemplified by GNU/Linux. This in turn creates cheaper hardware, since nobody will be forced to pay the Microsoft Tax. Cheaper computers mean more people can afford to buy them (especially in poorer nations), and companies will be getting better value for money (what better value is there than free?). People have computers, but nothing truly useful to run on them. WinDOS is a burden on computer systems, slowing them down. People have grown more accustomed to computers, and many would like to take the next step to something better -- GNU/Linux. It may not be there quite yet, but it's definitely getting there. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] Keyboard repeat rate?
How would I adjust the repeat rate of my keyboard? I've found that in KDE's configuration, under peripherals there's a keyboard config program where I can turn OFF key repeat, but what I really want is for it to just repeat after a longer delay. Any pointers? -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
[newbie] CGI
Hello I have a couple ASP CGI that I developed on WinNT, and I would like to use them on Linux. I would like to know What Linux's users use for their CGI to support E-business, ODBC, SQL, etc..? Thank You Med
Re: [newbie] how does the rc#.d work
It was Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:16:08 -0500 when Mark Johnson wrote: Yes, you are correct. Paul Am I right to assume that based on the run level that you set in your inittab that that determines what series of rc.d scripts will get run? For example, if I have my run level set to 3 (non-graphical login), then the scripts in rc3.d will get ran, if I have it set to 5 (XWindows) then rc5.d will get invoked? -- Conference: a gathering of important people who singly can do nothing, but together can decide that nothing can be done. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
[newbie] sound.
I hope someone can tell me what is going on with my sound. When I start KDE I used to get a little sound file playing, now I get nothing. When I look at /dev I see the following highlighted in red and flashing: snd - ../proc/asound/dev What is the highlighting and flashing trying to tell me? Thanks. TC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] nvidia drivers
I just did an install of 8.0 and from what I've read I don't think that I want to use the 1251 drivers. (VIA chipset) :-( Anyone know where I can find the 769 drivers? Also, what is the best way to deal with the KDM problem? What are the alternatives? Right now I have it set up to auto login when I boot up. Thanks TC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Use of Linux
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 06:13, Judith Miner wrote: Speedman wrote: Restricted super user authority is a hallmark of *NIX, and is one of the primary reasons it is so stable. [snip] We promote the very same practice to home users in order to prevent kids, or other family members from installing some piece of hellware that guts Windows. I fully appreciate restricted authority in multiuser situations. One of the first things I noticed when I started using Linux was how great this would be where you share a computer with other family members. One of the problems Windows 9x users constantly face is how to keep their PCs safe from their children's experiments. Or a family member does not exercise due caution with installing downloaded programs of uncertain origin or opens e-mail attachments without proper checking and the whole system winds up infected. In a multiuser family environment, I would certainly want root restricted to the *real* root (still me). You make some good points here. But my situation is totally different. There are no other users, no children, no other family members using the computer. Why should I, the sole user, have to jump through hoops that are intended solely for the multiuser situation? People seem to forget that the Internet is a network as well. Internet security is amongst the most important types of security that are required. Fine, your son/daughter/mother/father/dog/cat can't damage your system, but what about all the skilful crackers out there just itching to break into a new system? Don't hold your breath waiting for Linux distributors to remove su, and permission based file structures. I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. One of the obvious benefits of Linux is that you have more choices about how you set up your system. The goal of Linux-on-the-desktop should be to increase choices, not remove them. I wouldn't want any console- or command-line aficionado to lose one bit of this power. But if Linux advocates are serious about promoting Linux as an OS suitable for mainstream, non-networked desktop users, certain things have to change. I think a single user should have the *option* of setting up his or her system so that access to root's reserved functions are easy in some way other than always logging in as root. Once again, this can be done with a combination of user permissions and tools like kdesu and sudo. Anyway, this time proven and effective model is already compromised on the desktop because any standalone sole user can do exactly what I have done--log in as root routinely. Now things are exactly as they are in Win 98SE, except my Internet access seems to be considerably less safe. Your internet access less safe in GNU/Linux than in Windows? Give me a break! Try using tools like InteractiveBastille to fortify your system. It may not be the most user-friendly thing around, but it does what it is supposed to do. Security cannot be sugar-coated too much, otherwise it wouldn't be secure at all. If this concept had of been implemented in the 9x line of products (even though the underlying technology is absolute junk) I can hardly imagine how astronomical the world wide productivity gains would have been over the past seven years - compared to what has actually transpired. The 9x line of products was never designed to be a safe system and cannot be made so. Granted, Microsoft never made this crystal clear, but how incompetent would an IT person be who didn't know this? Networked business users should have been using the much safer NT or W2K, which *does* protect the vital core from user-induced disasters. For sole home users, though, the security features do NOT increase the system's reliability because the sole user can always do whatever root or administrator are allowed to do, including trashing the thing entirely. The main point (among many others) of typing in a root password for a single user system is to prevent *accidental* errors from occurring. It also forces one to actually *think* about what they're doing, whereas otherwise (as a normal user) they do not have to worry about this, and so can just get back to work. The need to log into root should be rare -- the vast majority of tasks can be done as a user. The main reason for logging in as root is to (un)install RPMs. If you use userdrake to add yourself to the urpmi group you can securely add rpms with urpmi and remove them with urpme -- all as a normal user. I will bet a dime to a dollar that if you continue using *NIX, and don't respect it's structure you will end up w/ an unstable operating system just like Win 9x. What makes you think I have an unstable Win 9x system? I would never put up with such a thing. My Win 95b laptop is rock-solid and will go months between crashes. My 98SE desktop is not as stable, mostly because of some applications I run that are buggy. I know what they are but I want what they
Re: [newbie] CGI
I do everything in Perl. There are probably better ways, but Perl does everything I need it to do, and I don't have enough time to learn something new. :-) Miark - Original Message - From: daho Med [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: [newbie] CGI Hello I have a couple ASP CGI that I developed on WinNT, and I would like to use them on Linux. I would like to know What Linux's users use for their CGI to support E-business, ODBC, SQL, etc..? Thank You Med
RE: [newbie] CGI
Try PHP: http://www.php.net I think you can use ASP too ... but I don't know how ... anyone ? phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daho Med Sent: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2001 17:29 To: newbie Subject: [newbie] CGI Hello I have a couple ASP CGI that I developed on WinNT, and I would like to use them on Linux. I would like to know What Linux's users use for their CGI to support E-business, ODBC, SQL, etc..? Thank You Med
Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified
Jason Guidry wrote: Yes, very funny. I hadn't thought to specify, but actually recommendations on both would be nice. Looking at some sample exams I think I could be COMPTIA A+ certified in a couple months, so that would be where I want to start. I just wanted to find a platform neutral book instead of buying the study pack from Microsoft Publications. I already know far too much about Win 3.1, 95, 98, ME, m-o-u-s-e... Linux networking is the next step. I will check out your (chris') recommendation, most appreciated. -Original Message- From: Chris Keelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:25 PM To: Jason Guidry Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified On Sunday 01 July 2001 15:35, you wrote: I know that no one on this list has any problems sharing opinions... So I wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on a good A+ cert book, hopefully leading to *nix networking (ie not MCSE). Or maybe a website that's not looking to suck down a month's worth of my meager rural texas teacher salary? Thanks in advance. I'm not sure if you're going for COMPTIA's A+ Certification or you mean A+ as in doubleplusgood. If you mean the former, sorry, can't help you. If you mean the latter, then read Linux Network Administrator's Guide. There's a mirror at: http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/zdv/projekte/linux/books/nag/nag.html It begins with basic TCP/IP and Ethernet networks and goes on to cover lots of stuff including, NFS and SAMBA. - C I am A+ certified from COMPTIA the only problem with it is that the exam is proprietary all the hardware is intell stuff or made for intell and all the software test covers is microsdicks stuff they were going to add linux to the test but billy steped in as microsoft is the largest supporter of comptia they cancelled adding linux to the A+ and came out with a seperate test that cost $800.00. But in answer to your question about a good book I used the EXAM CRAM books they were very good in the lessons and covering the test questions. But it is all microdick stuff, thats all the A+ is. Registared linux user: #218333 DRAGONLANCE
RE: [newbie] Gettin' certified
I also have the A+. Lots of stuff on printers, very easy to overlook. Taken lots of practice exams, definately use the exam cram... Yes, there is no Linux connection. But then it will certify (as designed) that you have attained 6 months of knowledge as a PC tech. A good break in, but not nirvana. Check the online brain dumps for latest stuff, i.e., http://users2.ev1.net/~kevina/ -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Francis J. Keller Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:47 AM To: Jason Guidry Cc: Linux-Mandrake Newbie (E-mail) Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified Jason Guidry wrote: Yes, very funny. I hadn't thought to specify, but actually recommendations on both would be nice. Looking at some sample exams I think I could be COMPTIA A+ certified in a couple months, so that would be where I want to start. I just wanted to find a platform neutral book instead of buying the study pack from Microsoft Publications. I already know far too much about Win 3.1, 95, 98, ME, m-o-u-s-e... Linux networking is the next step. I will check out your (chris') recommendation, most appreciated. -Original Message- From: Chris Keelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:25 PM To: Jason Guidry Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified On Sunday 01 July 2001 15:35, you wrote: I know that no one on this list has any problems sharing opinions... So I wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on a good A+ cert book, hopefully leading to *nix networking (ie not MCSE). Or maybe a website that's not looking to suck down a month's worth of my meager rural texas teacher salary? Thanks in advance. I'm not sure if you're going for COMPTIA's A+ Certification or you mean A+ as in doubleplusgood. If you mean the former, sorry, can't help you. If you mean the latter, then read Linux Network Administrator's Guide. There's a mirror at: http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/zdv/projekte/linux/books/nag/nag.html It begins with basic TCP/IP and Ethernet networks and goes on to cover lots of stuff including, NFS and SAMBA. - C I am A+ certified from COMPTIA the only problem with it is that the exam is proprietary all the hardware is intell stuff or made for intell and all the software test covers is microsdicks stuff they were going to add linux to the test but billy steped in as microsoft is the largest supporter of comptia they cancelled adding linux to the A+ and came out with a seperate test that cost $800.00. But in answer to your question about a good book I used the EXAM CRAM books they were very good in the lessons and covering the test questions. But it is all microdick stuff, thats all the A+ is. Registared linux user: #218333 DRAGONLANCE _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] sound.
It was Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) when Terry C wrote: I hope someone can tell me what is going on with my sound. When I start KDE I used to get a little sound file playing, now I get nothing. When I look at /dev I see the following highlighted in red and flashing: snd - ../proc/asound/dev What is the highlighting and flashing trying to tell me? It means that this link is pointing to nowhere. The destination (/proc/asound/dev) seems to be no longer there. Did you do anything to the system? Paul -- Conference: a gathering of important people who singly can do nothing, but together can decide that nothing can be done. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] 3com 509 on Mandrake 8.0
Oh my goodness... a ISA 3com card? WOW! Well, does Mandrake recognize it? Check /etc/modules.conf and /proc/interrupts. Do you see anything in there having to do with Mandrake at all? Maybe something along these lines? [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat /etc/modules.conf | grep eth0 alias eth0 3c59x [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat /proc/interrupts | grep eth0 3: 178202 XT-PIC usb-uhci, usb-uhci, eth0 I have a motherboard that supports shared IRQs, so it shares an IRQ with USB. But since USB is disabled, it's never used. If you see something like that in those two config files, you may just need to use HardDrake to configure the card correctly. Start out with HardDrake. If it doesn't show the NIC, then check /etc/modules.conf and /proc/interrupts for things like the above. Since it's an ISA card, make sure the kernel supports ISA, and that your motherboard hasn't disabled it in the software. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 1:28PM up 23:48, 4 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.03, 0.01 | Hi, | I have my computer working fine with Mandrake 7.1. | I re-installed Mandrake 8.0 and I could not get working my 3COM 509B | ETHERLINK III COMBO ISA PnP network card. | Can you help me? | | Renato | | -- | Renato Tognaccini, | Dipartimento di Progettazione Aeronautica, | Universita` di Napoli Federico II, | Piazzale V. Tecchio 80, | 80125 Napoli, ITALIA. | | tel.: +39-0817682179 | fax: +39-0817682187 | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | -- -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 1:28PM up 23:48, 4 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.03, 0.01
[newbie] okay no one has one huh?
Well thanks for your time. Oh I am signed up for newbie also But not anymore Goodbye
Re: [newbie] Definitions
alex, I was hoping someone more qualified would respond, but I'll give it a try. This writing is pretty rough -- some day I would hope to clean it up and put it on my wiki (after the wiki is running). alex wrote: What is meant by:? 'unpack' as in-- unpack to /usr/src Packing is sort of like compression, or something that is usually done along with compression. Utilities like zip in the dos/Windows world (and Linux) combine multiple files into one file and compress each of them. (I think they are individually compressed and then combined, but it might be the other way around -- clearly we can extract and uncompress individual files which is what makes my first impression that they are compressed and then combined, but it could work either way -- the combining is what is usually called packing.) In the Linux world, there are utilities that just do packing (tar, I think) and other utilities that just do compressing (not sure -- gzip?). (And, nowadays, just to confuse me, tar has the ability to compress as well.) Anyway, packing is the act of combining multiple files into one (for convenience under some circumstances), unpacking is the act of separating that single file back into the original separate files. And, in today's world, somebody talking about packing or unpacking may be implying compression or uncompression as well. 'link' as in-- link linux to kernel-source (what's a kernel-source?) 2nd question first: Most programs exist in two forms -- a human readable form that the programmer creates, reads, and modifies, and a machine readable form that the computer actually runs. The human readable form is commonly referred to as the source. This gets touched on below, in several places. Link: link can have more than one meaning in the computer world. In this context (AFAICT) you want to know about the act of linking several parts of a computer program together to make one. (I'm not a C or C++ programmer, and linking is an operation more common to those languages than to, for example, Pascal, so I'm a little uncomfortable here, but I'll try:) We'll go back to the two forms of a program (and we'll touch on some of your other questions as well): The human readable form of a program is usually compiled (but sometimes interpreted -- slightly different) to convert it from source (code) to the machine readable form (variously called object (code), binary, or executable depending on other circumstances). The human readable source code is often maintained in separate pieces for convenience, each piece in a separate file. (It's often easier to deal with several smaller files rather than one large file, depending on what you're trying to do at the moment.) A compiler (one of two types of computer program that converts the human readable form to the machine readable form) typically converts each separate source file to a separate machine readable file (usually known as an object file). Before the computer can run the program, the separate pieces have to be combined into one program, by a process called linking. (There is a lot more to learn about linking, like exactly what does linking do -- what within each separate piece is linked? For another discussion.) Aside: The other meaning of linking has to do with having one file or directory pretend to be another, via a hard or soft link -- if you want to know more about that, write back. (Well, actually, I covered some of that below in your question about inodes.) 'compile' as in-- compile the kernel (or recompile) I hope I gave you the general idea of compiling already -- it is one way of transforming the human readable form of a computer program to the computer readable form (or maybe I should say the computer executable form -- the computer can read the human readable program, but can't directly execute it (unless it is an interpreted language, mentioned again below)). Recompiling is simply compiling a program again, because you've modified it, fixed an error, want to make it run on a different (type of) computer, or something similar. Someone more used to compiling might explain the typical steps for compiling with a compiler like gcc -- the various make, make clean, and build commands. (I don't know enough to attempt that, yet.) (It's easier in Turbo Pascal or Visual Basic, you just compile.) Aside: Some languages are interpreted instead of compiled (and a few can be compiled or interpreted). The basic difference is that compiling is done in advance, before a program is run, interpreting is done on the fly. To expand -- a compiled program is programmed, compiled, linked, and then run, all separate steps, and before a program is run, a complete translated copy exists in a file (the product of the compilation and linking steps). An interpreted program is just programmed and then run -- the interpreter reads one line of the source code at a time, translates it to source code, executes it, then gets the
Re: [newbie] sound.
Paul wrote: It was Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) when Terry C wrote: I hope someone can tell me what is going on with my sound. When I start KDE I used to get a little sound file playing, now I get nothing. When I look at /dev I see the following highlighted in red and flashing: snd - ../proc/asound/dev What is the highlighting and flashing trying to tell me? It means that this link is pointing to nowhere. The destination (/proc/asound/dev) seems to be no longer there. Did you do anything to the system? Paul [frans@localhost frans]$ ls -l /proc/asound/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 0 - card1/ dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 card1/ -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 cards dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 dev/ -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 devices -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 hwdep -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 oss-devices -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 pcm dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 seq/ -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 sndstat -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 timers -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 version [frans@localhost frans]$ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.5.10b. Compiled on Apr 15 2001 for kernel 2.4.3-20mdk with versioned symbols. This is Mandrake 8.0 . It set up the OSS/free soundcard drivers for me, it worked OK :) Then I switched to ALSA for this install and it also works :) -Frans
[newbie] Display in LM8
Dear All, Since I have had LM8 I cannot get my display to the correct config. Alot of my programs are cut off at the bottom so that I cannot see the OK , Apply, or Cancel buttons. I have a generic S3Virge which worked perfectly in 7 and 7.2. How may I remedy this problem? I already did a new config file with xf86config. That did not seem to change anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Marcia -- Marcia Waller
Re: [newbie] nvidia drivers
On Monday 02 July 2001 08:28, you wrote: I just did an install of 8.0 and from what I've read I don't think that I want to use the 1251 drivers. (VIA chipset) :-( Anyone know where I can find the 769 drivers? Also, what is the best way to deal with the KDM problem? What are the alternatives? Right now I have it set up to auto login when I boot up. Thanks TC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ I have them if you like I will email them to you! The 769 drivers of course. John
Re: [newbie] 3com 509 on Mandrake 8.0
I have an isa 3c509something, and I had to assign irq 11 to legacy (or isa) in the bios before it would work. You could try that. -s On Monday 02 July 2001 10:40 am, you wrote: Hi, I have my computer working fine with Mandrake 7.1. I re-installed Mandrake 8.0 and I could not get working my 3COM 509B ETHERLINK III COMBO ISA PnP network card. Can you help me? Renato -- Renato Tognaccini, Dipartimento di Progettazione Aeronautica, Universita` di Napoli Federico II, Piazzale V. Tecchio 80, 80125 Napoli, ITALIA. tel.: +39-0817682179 fax: +39-0817682187 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description:
[newbie] a newbie using LM7.2 and cygwin
Hey guys! I use LM 7.2 on a dual-boot machine with Win98. Fact is, I use some software in Win98 but spend most of my time using Linux, too much time in fact that I'm mixing up ls, cat, less, etc. with M$-DOS. I wanted to get bash into windows so I looked around the web for bash ports for Win32. I just wanted to ask if anyone has used djgpp or cygwin on Win32? I've tried both and found cygwin easier to use but have a hard time finding new packages to use with Xf86 and configuring twm. Where can I find other window managers and help configing them. And lynx keeps looking for cygncurse5.dull which I can't find on the net. Can anyone refer me to where I can find packages for cygwin? Does anyone know of a better UNIX port to win32 other than these two? Any help is welcome including no help at all. Thanks a bundle for reading this. __ www.edsamail.com
Re: [newbie] a newbie using LM7.2 and cygwin
I used cygwin for a while, command line only, before installing Linux. (Still dual boot.) There is something called Lin4Win -- never tried it -- don't have a link -- it might be worth a search on Google and browsing a few pages. Randy Kramer Allen Joseph M Hernandez wrote: I just wanted to ask if anyone has used djgpp or cygwin on Win32? I've tried both and found cygwin easier to use but have a hard time finding new packages to use with Xf86 and configuring twm. Where can I find other window managers and help configing them. And lynx keeps looking for cygncurse5.dull which I can't find on the net. Can anyone refer me to where I can find packages for cygwin? Does anyone know of a better UNIX port to win32 other than these two? Any help is welcome including no help at all. Thanks a bundle for reading this. __ www.edsamail.com
[newbie] No sound for NeoMagic 256AV
I've just installed Mandrake 8.0 on my Dell Inspiron 3500 Laptop, but have not had any success with sound. Is the NeoMagic 256AV (MagicWave 3DX) sound card supported? I was led to believe that it was especiallly since numerous sources online indicated that the 2.4.x kernel supported it. HardDrake recognized the card, but it will not run...startup indicates some errors, but the're reported on the screen too quickly for me to see. Is there a module in Mandrake 8.0 somewhere (I heard that a module nm256 exists). How does one install this. Failing that, can someone recommend the most painfree work around (ALSA, OSSFree, etc)??? thanks, -dave David L. Dufeau Vertebrate Paleontology Laboratory J.J. Pickle Research Campus PRC 6 The University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712 Mail Code R7600 (512) 232-5517
Re: [newbie] LISa configuration
On Monday 02 July 2001 14:41, Jamie Kerwick wrote: I think I'm doing well, i've got my w98se box speaking to mandrake 8 accessing my samba shares (encrypt password = yes helps!!). The problem i have now is that i'm struggling to get Linux box to access w98 shares. I have tried 'browsing network' using LISa and reLISa in KDE. However, no joy. Basically the problem is that i don't really know what information to give it. I am attempting to configure in KDE Control centre, - Look n Feel - Lan Browsing. Is there a way i can mount the w98 shares on the linux box? how would i go about doing this. Or betting yet does anyone know of any good websites which give help. (i like to learn rather than follow blindly) Cheers Jamie Try LinNeighborhood http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/ It seems to work with all WMs very well. Civileme ___ __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: Re: FW: [newbie] curious ....
snip for sanity's sake I have one thing to say if MS don't force ie on people. prove that to me by installeding ME without it. Pratt. M$ is beyond that. Even if (Mini)ME can be installed without IE, most Microsoft apps (e.g. Office 2000 and XP) require it at least for online help. No, your honor. We aren't leveraging our OS and office software monopolies to monopolize the browser market. Honest!.
[newbie] Blackbox
Hello all: My first qestion to this list. I like light window managers, therefore am using Blackbox. In other environments one can tab through the desktops by using `control-F1' etc. How does one do this with BB? -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
Re: [newbie] Installing from RPMs
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Mark Johnson wrote: Let's say you install Apache, PHP, and MySQL from their various binary RPMs (not source). How to I go about getting them all to work together? This is probably beyond the scope of this list, but it is not real obvious how to get everything situated to they mesh. The only thing that I have been able to do to get it all to work is to reinstall the entire OS, but this is tiresome. I have tried to read the docs about the httpd.conf, and php.ini but I can't seem to find an answer... has anyone had this problem and gotten everything to jive? What you need to use is `Apache Toolbox' http://www.apachetoolbox.com/. A brief synopsis follows quoted: Apache Toolbox provides a means to easily compile Apache (IPv4/6) SSL, PHP(v3/v4), MySQL, Jakarta, a large number of modules (61 3rd party modules and 36 default Apache modules, static or as DSOs), and GD libraries with PNG+JPEG+Freetype2+zlib support. It is fully customizable and menu-driven. Everything is compiled from source, and wget is used to download any missing modules. It can also check for RPMs that might cause problems and create an RPM with your selections. HTH. -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
Re: [newbie] No sound for NeoMagic 256AV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, Are you sure the Neomagic 256AV is a *sound* card? The same card in my ThinkPad is for *video*, and my sound card is an ESS Solo something-or-other. Dave On Monday 02 July 2001 16:14, thus spake David L. Dufeau: I've just installed Mandrake 8.0 on my Dell Inspiron 3500 Laptop, but have not had any success with sound. Is the NeoMagic 256AV (MagicWave 3DX) sound card supported? I was led to believe that it was especiallly since numerous sources online indicated that the 2.4.x kernel supported it. HardDrake recognized the card, but it will not run...startup indicates some errors, but the're reported on the screen too quickly for me to see. Is there a module in Mandrake 8.0 somewhere (I heard that a module nm256 exists). How does one install this. Failing that, can someone recommend the most painfree work around (ALSA, OSSFree, etc)??? thanks, -dave David L. Dufeau Vertebrate Paleontology Laboratory J.J. Pickle Research Campus PRC 6 The University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712 Mail Code R7600 (512) 232-5517 - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7QPNvOiMJhTaLf3MRAhRhAJ42zi6orocFLJK3A1AWh2y/0e83yQCeMXim n8lbFolSzYLZCa4Gb/pH4Yc= =VRfG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] how does the rc#.d work
Yes. Randy Kramer Mark Johnson wrote: Am I right to assume that based on the run level that you set in your inittab that that determines what series of rc.d scripts will get run? For example, if I have my run level set to 3 (non-graphical login), then the scripts in rc3.d will get ran, if I have it set to 5 (XWindows) then rc5.d will get invoked?
[newbie] K button
under my K button in KDE (start button) i used to have the group network and under it was netscape, the entire network group is gone? any ideas? what is the K button called anyway? thanks, bc
Re: [newbie]
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, bc wrote: how can i open a Microsoft Word Document, a doc file in KDE/Mandrake? what program? Kword can not open it? Hi: Tray to use AbiWord or StarOffice of Sun Microsystems. Also you should have you Word Document in .rtf(Rich Text File) format.
Re: [newbie]
You shuold install abisuite-0.7.6-1mdk.i586.rpm On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Daniel Espinosa wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, bc wrote: how can i open a Microsoft Word Document, a doc file in KDE/Mandrake? what program? Kword can not open it? Hi: Tray to use AbiWord or StarOffice of Sun Microsystems. Also you should have you Word Document in .rtf(Rich Text File) format.
Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified
Yes it is a good starting point I spent 9 months in school being retrained for this IT buss. I also have the COMPTIA's NETWORK+ and the I-NET+ certs. I have graduated in april and still looking for a job. Very difficult right now but I love building and rebuilding my machines at home and have built a few for family and friends registered linux user: #218333 Dragonlance Michael Mitchell wrote: I also have the A+. Lots of stuff on printers, very easy to overlook. Taken lots of practice exams, definately use the exam cram... Yes, there is no Linux connection. But then it will certify (as designed) that you have attained 6 months of knowledge as a PC tech. A good break in, but not nirvana. Check the online brain dumps for latest stuff, i.e., http://users2.ev1.net/~kevina/ -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Francis J. Keller Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:47 AM To: Jason Guidry Cc: Linux-Mandrake Newbie (E-mail) Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified Jason Guidry wrote: Yes, very funny. I hadn't thought to specify, but actually recommendations on both would be nice. Looking at some sample exams I think I could be COMPTIA A+ certified in a couple months, so that would be where I want to start. I just wanted to find a platform neutral book instead of buying the study pack from Microsoft Publications. I already know far too much about Win 3.1, 95, 98, ME, m-o-u-s-e... Linux networking is the next step. I will check out your (chris') recommendation, most appreciated. -Original Message- From: Chris Keelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:25 PM To: Jason Guidry Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified On Sunday 01 July 2001 15:35, you wrote: I know that no one on this list has any problems sharing opinions... So I wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on a good A+ cert book, hopefully leading to *nix networking (ie not MCSE). Or maybe a website that's not looking to suck down a month's worth of my meager rural texas teacher salary? Thanks in advance. I'm not sure if you're going for COMPTIA's A+ Certification or you mean A+ as in doubleplusgood. If you mean the former, sorry, can't help you. If you mean the latter, then read Linux Network Administrator's Guide. There's a mirror at: http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/zdv/projekte/linux/books/nag/nag.html It begins with basic TCP/IP and Ethernet networks and goes on to cover lots of stuff including, NFS and SAMBA. - C I am A+ certified from COMPTIA the only problem with it is that the exam is proprietary all the hardware is intell stuff or made for intell and all the software test covers is microsdicks stuff they were going to add linux to the test but billy steped in as microsoft is the largest supporter of comptia they cancelled adding linux to the A+ and came out with a seperate test that cost $800.00. But in answer to your question about a good book I used the EXAM CRAM books they were very good in the lessons and covering the test questions. But it is all microdick stuff, thats all the A+ is. Registared linux user: #218333 DRAGONLANCE _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified
Certs, School, it's all great. And if you do not have any other way in that's where you have to start. But I interview people every month that have all the certs and school and no real pactical knowledge to go with it. If you can get your foot in the door and you have experience, that's worth almost more than certs. I'm not saying they aren't worth anything, just that they aren't made of gold or anything. They do look good on a res but you can't fake your way through if you don't realy know what's behind the certs. Will On Monday 02 July 2001 06:59 pm, you wrote: Yes it is a good starting point I spent 9 months in school being retrained for this IT buss. I also have the COMPTIA's NETWORK+ and the I-NET+ certs. I have graduated in april and still looking for a job. Very difficult right now but I love building and rebuilding my machines at home and have built a few for family and friends registered linux user: #218333 Dragonlance Michael Mitchell wrote: I also have the A+. Lots of stuff on printers, very easy to overlook. Taken lots of practice exams, definately use the exam cram... Yes, there is no Linux connection. But then it will certify (as designed) that you have attained 6 months of knowledge as a PC tech. A good break in, but not nirvana. Check the online brain dumps for latest stuff, i.e., http://users2.ev1.net/~kevina/ -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Francis J. Keller Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:47 AM To: Jason Guidry Cc: Linux-Mandrake Newbie (E-mail) Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified Jason Guidry wrote: Yes, very funny. I hadn't thought to specify, but actually recommendations on both would be nice. Looking at some sample exams I think I could be COMPTIA A+ certified in a couple months, so that would be where I want to start. I just wanted to find a platform neutral book instead of buying the study pack from Microsoft Publications. I already know far too much about Win 3.1, 95, 98, ME, m-o-u-s-e... Linux networking is the next step. I will check out your (chris') recommendation, most appreciated. -Original Message- From: Chris Keelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:25 PM To: Jason Guidry Subject: Re: [newbie] Gettin' certified On Sunday 01 July 2001 15:35, you wrote: I know that no one on this list has any problems sharing opinions... So I wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on a good A+ cert book, hopefully leading to *nix networking (ie not MCSE). Or maybe a website that's not looking to suck down a month's worth of my meager rural texas teacher salary? Thanks in advance. I'm not sure if you're going for COMPTIA's A+ Certification or you mean A+ as in doubleplusgood. If you mean the former, sorry, can't help you. If you mean the latter, then read Linux Network Administrator's Guide. There's a mirror at: http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/zdv/projekte/linux/books/nag/nag.html It begins with basic TCP/IP and Ethernet networks and goes on to cover lots of stuff including, NFS and SAMBA. - C I am A+ certified from COMPTIA the only problem with it is that the exam is proprietary all the hardware is intell stuff or made for intell and all the software test covers is microsdicks stuff they were going to add linux to the test but billy steped in as microsoft is the largest supporter of comptia they cancelled adding linux to the A+ and came out with a seperate test that cost $800.00. But in answer to your question about a good book I used the EXAM CRAM books they were very good in the lessons and covering the test questions. But it is all microdick stuff, thats all the A+ is. Registared linux user: #218333 DRAGONLANCE _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
i can't resist this one. to add further to John's response, why are you having to su so much? the only time i have to su is to install programs. i just tried this, i can su type in a password in 4 seconds. you do this so often that it results in a fair amount of lost time? i'm sure i'm not the only one who would be curious to know what you are doing to that computer. Day One: I hate M$. I think I'll try Linux. Day Two: This crap sucks. It isn't Windows. Windows is not Linux, Linux is not Windows. Decide which you want use it. On Monday 02 July 2001 02:19 am, you wrote: I suppose burden is in the eye of the beholder. I find constant typing of the root password to be annoying in the extreme and results in a fair amount of lost time if you have to do this several times in a few hours. Then maybe you should trash that really annoying computer, go out and buy a typewrite and a wordprocessor and a copy machine, and go back to the days of hardcopy only,typewriter ribbon. It sounds like whoever wrote the above paragraph is just one lazy SOB, and is really grasping for ANY excuse to bitch about Linux. Sheesh...I bet you think havin' to go take a piss is a real shame too...you actually have to 'walk' somewhere. John Berger
[newbie] Net Install Problems
I have tried to install three times now and keep getting the same error when Mandrake 8.0 is installing. I can't tell if its one specific program that is causing the problem because there is a splash screen over top of the progress bar and the name of the program that is being installed. When the error occurred I get a message box saying: An error occurred Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference. After I get this error the only thing I can do is press the OK button and the installer starts reloading the list of packages and I have to go through selected what I want to install again. Does anyone know what might be happening or a way to fix this? thanks, Aaron ::.. Aaron ..:: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Display in LM8
Marcia, Have you looked at the Configuration -- Other -- Mandrake Control Panel and in there you can look at what the settinfgs are for the display.. From what you have said it appears that you display is set to 600x400 and that display is hard to see like you say. Try 800x600 and see if that works better. Don --- Marcia Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Since I have had LM8 I cannot get my display to the correct config. Alot of my programs are cut off at the bottom so that I cannot see the OK , Apply, or Cancel buttons. I have a generic S3Virge which worked perfectly in 7 and 7.2. How may I remedy this problem? I already did a new config file with xf86config. That did not seem to change anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Marcia -- Marcia Waller __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
I can't resist either -- sorry! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't resist this one. to add further to John's response, why are you having to su so much? the only time i have to su is to install programs. i just tried this, i can su type in a password in 4 seconds. you do this so often that it results in a fair amount of lost time? i'm sure i'm not the only one who would be curious to know what you are doing to that computer. For me (and I'm not the original poster), the four seconds does not account for all the lost time or inconvenience. Usually I first try something as user. Then I realize (when it doesn't work) that I should have been root. Then I su to root. Then I try to remember the commands I typed before, and I can't use command history to scroll back to them -- they're in the user account command history. At first, I couldn't even cut and paste them from the user to the root command line (now I keep two konsoles open and I can cut and paste one command at a time, and I suspect there is something better I can learn to do in the future). If I haven't completely lost my train of thought by now, I do soon. I'm (conservatively counting) on about day 120 into my Linux sojourn, and my coworkers used to be amazed (at least sometimes) by what I could do at the dos command line. And yes, a lot of my time so far has been spent trying to get programs installed and running, so I needed to be root. Day One: I hate M$. I think I'll try Linux. Day Two: This crap sucks. It isn't Windows. Windows is not Linux, Linux is not Windows. Decide which you want use it. No -- try to get the best of both worlds, and try to go beyond the best of both worlds if possible! Randy Kramer
[newbie] Plugger Problems?
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me with the Plugger plugin for Netscape. I can play every type of file that Plugger can support except the following: Basic Audio File (.au) Soundtracker File (.mod) I've contacted the author of Plugger and he has not returned my email(s) on how to get Plugger to work with these formats, FYI I've installed Xanim, mpg123, XMP Sidplay, but it only seems like (AFAIK) that XMP would play these type of files. Also, I was wondering if someone could help me setup Mozilla with Plugger as if I could get Plugger working with it, I'd jump ship to it right away. TIA Curtis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie]
bc wrote: how can i open a Microsoft Word Document, a doc file in KDE/Mandrake? what program? Kword can not open it? Star Office or Word Perfect, if you have either one. If not SO is free and I believe there is a free version of WP. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user 217118
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't resist this one. to add further to John's response, why are you having to su so much? the only time i have to su is to install programs. i just tried this, i can su type in a password in 4 seconds. you do this so often that it results in a fair amount of lost time? i'm sure i'm not the only one who would be curious to know what you are doing to that computer... Yeah what he said! PS Maybe you should use a shorter psswd. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118
[newbie] Kmail Question
i've used Kmail for 2 days, it has not responed twice, or, i cick around very fast and it does not like it, does anyone have an opinion for me, that is, should i use Kmail and Konkerer or Netscape's browser w/ email program??? thanks... bc
[newbie] SSH login
I am trying to log into a Mandrake 8.0 server via ssh and i am getting the following error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host I have updated to openssh-server-2.9p1 and to openssh-clients-2.9p1 on both the server and my workstation. In addition, this prob first showed up when i try and log in from work but no where else. It seems to be firewall related, at home before i installed my firewall it worked fine but now after installing a firewall i get the same prob. thanx Amien
Re: [newbie] Kmail Question
I never could get Konqueror or Kmail to work right. Netscape works fine for me , but I use Mozilla, which works just as well and has some nice skins . I think it's probably a question of whatever works for you. Different systems seem to work better with different things. I think that with Linux, experimentation is crucial. Find what works for your system and keep checking the ones that didn't work as they become upgraded. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 bc wrote: i've used Kmail for 2 days, it has not responed twice, or, i cick around very fast and it does not like it, does anyone have an opinion for me, that is, should i use Kmail and Konkerer or Netscape's browser w/ email program??? thanks... bc
Re: [newbie] nbtstat equivilent?
Michael D. Viron wrote: Jennifer, What does nbtstat do? Is it anything like netstat? Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 08:00 PM 07/01/2001 -0400, JENNIFER wrote: Is there a NBTSTAT eqivilent in the *nix world? From my understanding, it resolves an IP address to an FQDN. I have only used the -a and -A switches. Here is the syntax: C:\nbtstat /? Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections using NBT (NetBIOS over TCP/IP). NBTSTAT [ [-a RemoteName] [-A IP address] [-c] [-n] [-r] [-R] [-RR] [-s] [-S] [interval] ] -a (adapter status) Lists the remote machine's name table given its name -A (Adapter status) Lists the remote machine's name table given its IP address. -c (cache) Lists NBT's cache of remote [machine] names and their IP addresses -n (names) Lists local NetBIOS names. -r (resolved) Lists names resolved by broadcast and via WINS -R (Reload) Purges and reloads the remote cache name table -S (Sessions) Lists sessions table with the destination IP addresses -s (sessions) Lists sessions table converting destination IP addresses to computer NETBIOS names. -RR (ReleaseRefresh) Sends Name Release packets to WINs and then, starts Refr esh RemoteName Remote host machine name. IP address Dotted decimal representation of the IP address. interval Redisplays selected statistics, pausing interval seconds between each display. Press Ctrl+C to stop redisplaying statistics. C:\
Re: [newbie] nbtstat equivilent?
civileme wrote: On Monday 02 July 2001 00:00, JENNIFER wrote: Is there a NBTSTAT eqivilent in the *nix world? Wow a DOS command-line type person! Well, yes and no. I think the closest would be LinNeighborhood, which is graphical. You are looking for a samba equivalent of what *NIX users get with the host command, i do believe. Since samba networks are TCP/IP, you might try host on th IP of the Samba node. Civileme yes, I'm an odd duck. But how else would I get anything done?
Re: Fwd: Out of Office AutoReply: [newbie] Sound In Yahoo! Messenger???
Carroll Grigsby wrote: Curtis/Civileme: Some companies require the usage of the Out of Office AutoReply feature, and it appears that Compaq is one of them. IMHO, it's a Very Good Thing in a corporate environment, although it can be a nuisance if the person is on a maillist. Since I'm retired now and no longer have access to Outlook Explorer (ain't that a damn shame), I don't know if there are settings that will prevent replying to some messages based on e-mail addresses, but stopping these messages at the source is probably the best remedy. Regards, Carroll Best thing about retirement: Every day is Saturday. civileme wrote: On Sunday 01 July 2001 02:56, Curtis Matthiesen wrote: I also get this message from this fellow everytime I post to the mailing list, does anyone know how I can stop getting these as they're annoying as heck. TIA Curtis From: Wehling, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip snip Well, you might have a filter capability with hotmail. I have never used them, so I don't know. If you have a pop3 type account and you use anything from pine to Kmail to pick up mail you have either filter rules or the name to drop into a kill folder. But the best way to deal with the situation is to write to the person who set up the autoreply, as soon as he is back in his office and inform him _courteously_ of the problem he probably wasn't aware he was causing. Civileme LookOut, I mean Outlook, does not have a feature to my knowledge to not reply with OOO to a specific sender. The best way I have found to rememdy this situation is to set up a free pop account for mailing lists. At some companies, though not mine, you can configure Lookout, doh, Outlook to recieve internet mail via the POP account into a seperate mail file with in...you guessed it! Outlook.
Re: [newbie] Whois looking for lost email address
Romanator wrote: Hi all, Is there such a thing is looking up an email address? I have an address but the whois feature cannot find the web page. You can respond to be directly. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility I'm not sure I understand. Do you want to verify that the email exists without notifing the user? Or do you want to verify what domain (smtp server) it is being sent through?
[newbie] Re: Use of Linux thread-off subject
Paul wrote: Tim wrote: Even when I'm doing something that does require root access, I may edit the file as another user, then as root go in and paste in my edits, or quickly su to root, do what I have to do and then log off as root. That latter is how I manage my box also. There's a bunch of xterms open on each virtual desktop, so I can always quickly su, do the root thing, and exit out of there. But I'm the kind of person that does 80% or more of his work via the console. I'm just not a GUI kinda man! (lol) My GUI needs are also very basic. I am lost without a prompt ;) I even start things like quanta and gimp from xterms... Much faster than all the mouse action. Paul I must agree with you. But, being new to Linux, there is not much I *can* do without the GUI. Is there a resource out there for Mandrake/KDE that would detail all the keyboard shortcuts you can use?? I know a volume could be written about something like VI or Emacs, but I'm more interested in some of the basic tasks like windows Key (or penguin key, if you so desire) plus something else to bring up an xterm. What about bringing up the SU-xterm very quickly?? I'm sort of like a crack addict that can wait for the lighter to spark. Very impatient.
RE: [newbie] The Root account
really? you are jesting surely? root is another name for bonking or bumping uglies or for the scientifically minded intercourse what country could you be from that doesn't have 10,000 names for what is essentially the same thing? regards Frank -Original Message- From: Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 2 July 2001 11:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] The Root account I'm going to be the one to admit, I don't get it. Is root some sort of derogatory term where you are? Either that, or I am wayyy out of the loop on things .. :-) Terry On Saturday 30 June 2001 16:20, you wrote: kinda funny,, My girlfriend saw me working on a linux server I had here, and she was watching when I logged in as root it took two hours to convince her that I wasn't a dirty bast@rd and that it was the standard all power account,, she is still looking at me strangely :-) rgds Frank
[newbie] Logitech Videocam
Dear All, I was just wondering if the Logitech Videocam is supported by LM8 and is it easy to setup? Thanks. Marcia -- Marcia Waller
[newbie] USB CD-writer
hi, does anyone know of a way to get an HP CD-writer plus 8200i USB CD writer working without having to recompile the kernel. i have tried recompiling and have not been able to boot correctly. i had the CD writer working well with redhat 7.1, but i don't like red hat, i was just trying it out. so i am now back to mandrake 8.0 and was wondering if anyone else knew of a way to get this device to work. thanks, JOE
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
Randy Kramer wrote: I can't resist either -- sorry! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't resist this one. to add further to John's response, why are you having to su so much? the only time i have to su is to install programs. i just tried this, i can su type in a password in 4 seconds. you do this so often that it results in a fair amount of lost time? i'm sure i'm not the only one who would be curious to know what you are doing to that computer. For me (and I'm not the original poster), the four seconds does not account for all the lost time or inconvenience. Usually I first try something as user. Then I realize (when it doesn't work) that I should have been root. Then I su to root. Then I try to remember the commands I typed before, and I can't use command history to scroll back to them -- they're in the user account command history. At first, I couldn't even cut and paste them from the user to the root command line (now I keep two konsoles open and I can cut and paste one command at a time, and I suspect there is something better I can learn to do in the future). If I haven't completely lost my train of thought by now, I do soon. I'm (conservatively counting) on about day 120 into my Linux sojourn, and my coworkers used to be amazed (at least sometimes) by what I could do at the dos command line. And yes, a lot of my time so far has been spent trying to get programs installed and running, so I needed to be root. Day One: I hate M$. I think I'll try Linux. Day Two: This crap sucks. It isn't Windows. Windows is not Linux, Linux is not Windows. Decide which you want use it. No -- try to get the best of both worlds, and try to go beyond the best of both worlds if possible! Randy Kramer One thing thing thats great about logging in as a regular user and SUING when you have to is that you really begin to understand the inner-workings of that system. personally, being an all to trusting Admin in a NT environment, I feel too comfortable with the rights. You don't know exactly what you can do and the user can't, which foroges the purpose of security in a network. I certainly wouldn't want to be responsible for setting up a critical system share only to give everyone and their alter-ego permissions to it. (I hate being called to the office...I had enough in high school) smiles In any event, forgive me if this point has already been made, I honestly did not read through the entire thread before responding. But if your purpose is for a insecure user friendly internet machine, stay with windows...no harm done. But if you want to get intmate enough with the system to adminster its every move, learn how it works and manipulate it. (apologies for the last comment...I think I just gave out one of womens biggest secrets on how to control men) smiles
Re: [newbie] K button
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, bc wrote: under my K button in KDE (start button) i used to have the group network and under it was netscape, the entire network group is gone? any ideas? what is the K button called anyway? thanks, bc Well, it's similar to the `start' on windoze. Have you done anything to your installation to cause them to disapear recently? -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
[newbie] cvspserver and xinetd
I cant get them to work :( I've read faqs, mail archives and plenty of docs but still cant get them to work. Somehow cvs thinks / is /root so it tries to create temp files in /root/tmp I already unset HOME before restarting xinetd and still the same problem :/ Anyone have cvs running with xinetd that can help me ?? thanks in advance -- edmz He's not dead, Jim, he's just metabolically challenged. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] ot sorry Society -- was: Use of Linux
I gave up on relationships, they are too hard for me, I think society in the US has gone down the toilet bowl, I wonder what happened to just good honest play and good clean fun. I am a bit of an androgenous male, so I am not the traditional male that one would think I am, plus I am emotionally immature, hence my occasional tantrums and banging the keyboard when something does not compile. How I once again long for the 1970's when all you had to say was Would you come over and play with me? On Monday 02 July 2001 11:10 pm, so spoke Franki: snip (apologies for the last comment...I think I just gave out one of womens biggest secrets on how to control men) smiles /snip There is a men version too.. when you want a woman to do something, you ask for something 5 times worse then what you actually want,, they will decline you immediatly, but because woman are for the most part creatures of emotion, they will feel predisposed to say yes when you humbly later suggest what you actually wanted in the first place It works every time, just don't let that get back to my girlfriend or I am a dead duck :-) regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jennifer Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2001 11:58 AM To: Randy Kramer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux -- Linux is cool
Re: [newbie] K button
Hey speaking of the K button, if it does not work in one account, andit does in others, what file do I need to change to make it work again? Thanks On Monday 02 July 2001 11:22 pm, so spoke Steve: On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, bc wrote: under my K button in KDE (start button) i used to have the group network and under it was netscape, the entire network group is gone? any ideas? what is the K button called anyway? thanks, bc Well, it's similar to the `start' on windoze. Have you done anything to your installation to cause them to disapear recently? -- Linux is cool
Re: [newbie] curious ....
I fix other people's PC problems for a living, specifically Windows problems... no shortage of work there might I add ;-) . After seeing Linux pop up more and more on the net I thought it was time for me to learn something about this 'cool OS'. I can see more New Zealanders getting into Linux very soon, especially since M$ are using NZ as the guinea pig for their rip-off licensing scheme. Once I get the hang of Mandrake, I'll try a few other flavours and then hopefully I might be able to get other people interested enough to try Linux as well. Although, I must say, that most of the people I help can barely manage with Winblows so I figure the majority will shy away from Linux. Only time will tell. Will keep the list posted in due course as to the general user's opinion in this country anyway. Cheers Skinky
Fw: [newbie] curious ....
Even though we are all newto Linux, don't you think we owe it to the Linux community in general to read up on it and see what it is all about, instead of just jumping in and then thrashing it because it isn't Windows? Don't misunderstand I am very grateful for all the work that has been done for love of Linux and the community free of charge. I'm not thrashing it at all as I think it has wonderful potiential. I'm just afraid that too many in the developement fields are holding back and resisting change at the wrong time. The windoze XP messup is the perfect opportunity to shift this thing into high gear and offer users another option if there ever was one. But for that to happen you have to have something to offer that is easy to use for the average person. It's about numbers and marketing not old school idealisms. Tazmun
Re: [newbie] missing rate... dirheader.html Error Message
Have you verified the integrity of your CD image using md5sum or something similar (I don't know the Windos equivalent, or even if there is one)? Perhaps it has not been downloaded correctly and it is damaged. In that case, you will have to obtain it again somehow (download, buy a CD, etc.). On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 23:00, Skinky wrote: Hello yet again everyone I have posted this message before, but I'm getting real desperate. This is my last attempt at installing Linux as I can't go any further. I don't even know what the following error message means, therefore can't find a solution (what is a rate?). I've searched and searched the net; this mailing list's archives; asked Mandrake Experts (no reply); searched and searched some more, but I am STUCK and can't go any further. I'm starting to wonder if it is worth the time and effort I have already put into it! I have tried six times to intall Mandrake 8.0 but the same error message is displayed at the same stage of the install process. I am STILL trying to install from hard drive. After creating a native linux partition and booting with a boot disk (hd.img), I selected install to own partition (linux native partition). All goes well for a while and then an error message comes up: Error An error occurred missing rate for !-- Beginning of: /www/htdocs/images/HEADER/dirheader.html -- Can anyone tell me what this means? I went back into Windows and searched thru the entire Linux directory of files that I downloaded for a file named htdocs or dirheader.html but found nothing. I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do. I've search thru the net for clues but again found nothing. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Skinky -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8 and sis 6215
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 01:20, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I was trying to install MDK 8.0 in a machine with SIS card 6215. While installing it starts in graphics. I saw in console one as 16 bpp, driver as cfb16, no acceleration and FBDev used. But after installation GUI doesn't work. First I get hanging with Super check serial port. I have also observed one more funny thing while install. Though I have 3 button ord mouse, it shows buttons 5 and zaxismapping in tty1. I saw X as 3.3.6 using X -version after installation. But xf86config leads to a file that is compatible with X 4. It didn't give option of selecting X while installing. How to go about mdk 8.0 and sis I believe that you did not get an option to choose between XFree 3.x and XFree 4.x because XFree 4.x does not yet support your card. SiS cards have never (AFAIK) been well supported in XFree (any version). Have you searched for SiS 6215 chipset support at http://www.xfree86.org? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Use of Linux
On Saturday 30 June 2001 18:43, Judith Miner wrote: Since there is so many risks of constantly using a root account, how in the world are you supposed to get work done without being logged in as root?? I am a new user and am looking for a desktop alternative to Windows. I have no interest in consoles, command lines, writing scripts, compiling kernels, etc. I just want a solid system supporting a complete, useful, and reasonably intuitive GUI that lets me do what I need to do and want to do. I am the sole user of my home/home office computer. My husband on rare occasions might write an e-mail on the Windows side of the computer, but he would have to be hog-tied to get him into the Mandrake 8 side. After getting mightily annoyed at having to run su in a console or run Super User file managers or give my root password time after time in order to run Mandrake Control Center or other root-only utilities, I now log in all the time as root. Before the geekoids on the list warn me of my impending eternal damnation,g let me explain my reasoning: I am the sole user. I am thus both root and judy (the only user). If I want to do something that will affect the all-important system files, I'm going to do it whether I'm logged in as user or root. So working as user does nothing but make me jump through more hoops to do what I'm going to do anyway. Why not avoid the hassle and work as root all the time? One password per session and no consoles for su-ing, I can unmount my Zip disks at will, I can deal with all files in all file managers, I can edit what I need to, I can install programs without problems. See, these security features can't stay the way they are if Linux is to attract even the Mac's share of the desktop market. Home business and consumer users will react the way I did and just get fed up and abandon Linux if they have to go through these endless permissions, logins, and passwords to manage their systems. In a home system, you're constantly installing or upgrading software or making changes to your display or your hardware. Any consumer GUI has to accommodate such usage, which is nothing at all like what a larger network requires. It seems to me that something could be incorporated into Linux desktops to make them friendlier to SOHO and home users while maintaining some system safety. For example, have a super user login that allows the equivalent of root access, but throws up a warning message when the root/user is about to make a change ordinarily reserved for root--something like You are about to change system files, which could have bad consequences. Okay? Cancel? --Judy Miner Well at install time, there is an option to give root no password. Then you can function as user, but if you need super-user, you just ask for the program and you don't get asked for the password. This works well under 3 conditions: 1. You are really the only user. 2. You are the only user allowed to ssh into the machine 3. You configure Webmin to run from the local loopback only. It is not perfect, but relaxation beyond that lets in the sort of nonsense you see in Windows all the time. Civileme There are other ways of skirting this issue for multiple users, like sudo, but this should work better for you than being logged in as root all the time. Specifically you do not want to log in as root when you are using the internet.
Re: [newbie] sound.
The only change I made was changing from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1. Right after making this change is when I began having sound problems. TC --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) when Terry C wrote: I hope someone can tell me what is going on with my sound. When I start KDE I used to get a little sound file playing, now I get nothing. When I look at /dev I see the following highlighted in red and flashing: snd - ../proc/asound/dev What is the highlighting and flashing trying to tell me? It means that this link is pointing to nowhere. The destination (/proc/asound/dev) seems to be no longer there. Did you do anything to the system? Paul -- Conference: a gathering of important people who singly can do nothing, but together can decide that nothing can be done. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care ** __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] sound.
I see that I do not have /proc/asound. How can I go about rectifying this? Thanks for the help. TC --- Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul wrote: It was Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) when Terry C wrote: I hope someone can tell me what is going on with my sound. When I start KDE I used to get a little sound file playing, now I get nothing. When I look at /dev I see the following highlighted in red and flashing: snd - ../proc/asound/dev What is the highlighting and flashing trying to tell me? It means that this link is pointing to nowhere. The destination (/proc/asound/dev) seems to be no longer there. Did you do anything to the system? Paul [frans@localhost frans]$ ls -l /proc/asound/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 0 - card1/ dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 card1/ -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 cards dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 dev/ -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 devices -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 hwdep -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 oss-devices -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 pcm dr-xr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 seq/ -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 sndstat -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 timers -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jul 2 20:04 version [frans@localhost frans]$ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 0.5.10b. Compiled on Apr 15 2001 for kernel 2.4.3-20mdk with versioned symbols. This is Mandrake 8.0 . It set up the OSS/free soundcard drivers for me, it worked OK :) Then I switched to ALSA for this install and it also works :) -Frans __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] curious ....
Skinky wrote: I fix other people's PC problems for a living, specifically Windows problems... no shortage of work there might I add ;-) . After seeing Linux pop up more and more on the net I thought it was time for me to learn something about this 'cool OS'. I can see more New Zealanders getting into Linux very soon, especially since M$ are using NZ as the guinea pig for their rip-off licensing scheme. Once I get the hang of Mandrake, I'll try a few other flavours and then hopefully I might be able to get other people interested enough to try Linux as well. Although, I must say, that most of the people I help can barely manage with Winblows so I figure the majority will shy away from Linux. Only time will tell. Will keep the list posted in due course as to the general user's opinion in this country anyway. Cheers Skinky If you need to save on space with the different flavors for Linux, try using Partition Magic 6 for partitioning and System Commander 2000 to control which OS need to start up. As far as people shying away from Linux, they need to be informed. Once they have been informed, they will get a better grip on something new. And, you can mention that they wont be forced into buying upgrades or paying for maintenance fees. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility
Re: Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
Bill Winegarden wrote: On Monday 02 July 2001 09:39, you wrote: Hi, I learned this little trick right here. If you are typing a long file name, just type in the first three or four letters, then hit the Esc key twice. Autocomplete fills in the rest. If there are two or more files with the same name up to a point (ie: different versions) the autocomplete will fill in the name to the point where you have to make a choice between the different files. This list is a real learning experience! Regards, Bill W. The long files are well - way t lng. I found that once I have typed the name in, I use my arrow keys to show the same command and file name. And, when dealing with .bin file installations, you just have to type in ./myfile rather than ./mylongfilename Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility Oh yeah. In fact, it will show you every combination that it knows. This is why I find this language so powerful. A number of people do not like text but GUI. Little do they know, when the GUI dies, you still have text. I'm still learning. Roman
Re: [newbie] Update Re: missing rate... dirheader.html Error Message
Skinky wrote: Before selecting a file, hold down the [shift] key and then click on the file. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Kmailer by Tux Holding the [shift] key down while clicking on the file just opens the file in a new window. But thanks anyway Roman. I just found someone in New Zealand from whom I can purchase a set of 2 CDs. I ordered them online so now I'll just have to be patient and wait for them to arrive (2-3 days)... with EAGER anticipation... :-) Cheers Skinky Great. The set of 2 CDs should get you up and running. If you need additional applications, check out: http://www.portalux.com/ http://freshmeat.net/ Cheers Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Tux Email Utility
