Re: [newbie] Opera Beta
Original Message On 10/14/00, 6:02:27 AM, Larry Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Opera Beta: Is there anyone who's a Netscape fan (grin)? It still holds the title as being the only application capable of crashing my Linux system and it kills itself on a regular basis. What are the smart people using? While I haven't gotten Opera's rpms to open up, finding out that it's not an open source product has cooled my thoughts of using it. Is there life without Nutscape? Cheers --- Larry Just back from a mini-vacation and muddling through tons of email giggle and felt the need to answer this. I guess you could say that I am a Netscape fan -- I use Netscape 4.75 with Mandrake 7.1 on a DSL (yes I have an excellent firewall ;-) ) and only when I am doing about 10,000 things at once does it freeze up on me and not nearly as often as when I used it on Windoze. I work from home for a dot com company and having a good browser is essential -- unfortunately I can only use Netscape or IE when accessing them to enter my info so I am kind of stuck -- Mozilla didn't work with them and I haven't tried Opera yet but am certainly willing to give it a try. I also use the Star Office browser which is pretty good too -- not for work sigh but for my browsing needs. Have a wonderful day :-) Patti -- Registered Linux user #186411
Re: [newbie] Vacation - offtime
Original Message On 10/15/00, 10:18:39 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Vacation - offtime: It was Oct 15, 2000, 09:54, when Greg Stewart keyboarded: Why come here? Aren't there better places to visit? :-) --Greg I'm invited for a wedding :) Paul -- HASTE CUISINE Fast French food. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- AND IT IS NOT MY WEDDING -- ROFLMAO -- PAUL I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL GET THIS BEFORE YOU LEAVE, due to the time difference, BUT IF YOU DO WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE CALL AND GETTING TOGETHER WITH YOU. ALAN, I STILL HAVE YOUR NUMBER SO WHEN I HEAR FROM PAUL I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL OKAY??? Patti
Re: [newbie] Printing in KDE
Knock on wood but I am not getting double messages from anyone!! Sure hope this doesn't change now that I've said this giggle Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 10/15/00, 10:59:59 AM, Larry Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Printing in KDE: Larry, I keep getting double messages from you. I keep getting double msgs of everything :-) I was beginning to think, however, that this had to do with local filtering of inbound msgs but maybe not. Are you not getting dupes from anyone else? Lots of people have complained about that here. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Kudzu
Original Message On 9/30/00, 9:28:12 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Kudzu: Since I don't have a previous harddrake anymore (one is enough) I am not sure if this works in every harddrake. Went to my DrakConf icon and it is in Startup Services -- just make sure that Kudzu is turned on and it will detect it at bootup :-) Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 Good luck! Paul -- A file that big? It might be very useful. But now it is gone. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] who answers?
Original Message On 9/30/00, 8:43:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] who answers?: Now if I knew more of the abbreviations like TIA -Gary- TIA = Thanks In Advance :-) Patti Registered Linux User 184611
Re: OT [newbie] Off-topic posts.
My parents taught me at a young age that there are two subjects that are not talked about -- Politics and Religion. :-) Everyone keeps saying to drop the subject so PLEASE CAN WE NOW DROP IT? TIA -- Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/30/00, 12:19:19 PM, "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: OT [newbie] Off-topic posts.: be moderated. If not then anything that even vaugely relates should be fine. When people start telling others what they can or can't talk about then things just go to hell w/ flame wars etc. A new list is great but minor snip Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but what the fsck is it about US Politics that "even vaguely relates" to Linux? Please, humor me, this bemused Linux user is eager to learn... snip As you've noticed, politics is a very unusual topic. Everybody seems to have something to say. It is much tollerated, except when you disagree. And it's sad that anybody has to suffer exposure to it if they don't want to, let alone on this Linux group.And it has nothing to do with Linux, just with the survival of the human race. I agree. To me, politics has no place in a Linux list. This is where we learn the tricks of the trade for a computer operating system. The users are generally not interested in 'my politician is better than your politician', any more than they are interested in 'my God is better than your God', or 'my color is better than your color', or "my sex is better than your sex', or any other such bigotry. The closest we have here are the 'techie wars' of (for example) vi/pico/emacs, Windoze/Linux, etc., and even they tend to suck, as the ferocity of the argument is generally inversely proportional to the amount of hard evidence to back either side... I was flamed for posting something about the history of computing and how situations at that time influenced the development of GNU and eventually Linux. It's amused me at how long this political discussion has gone on and the turns it has taken, from funny to screaming curses. -Gary- I for one was saddened by the flames you received for your 'history lessons'. Why? Because I believe that Linux and the history of computing are inextricably linked. It is a lot easier to understand Linux, and why Linux is the way it is, if you have a good basic understanding of the history of computing. It also helps for programming. Those of us who can remember programming in raw hex using a 25-key keypad with a 7-segment LED display on a machine with only a few kilobytes of RAM know the importance of tight code. A lot of today's programmers wouldn't believe the applications we could write in a few kilobytes. Also, the tight code ran so much faster than today's bloatware... Oh well. Regards, Ozz.
Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Okay I have been watching this thread and I just can't resist :-) Let's all join forces (and I do believe that there is a sufficient number of us) and everyone vote (write-in ballot) for the Gov of Minnesota -- Jesse "The Body" Ventura giggle Trust me, no one thought he was going to win the governorship 2 years ago but he did just like the masses do not believe that Linux will be a "viable" O/S against Winblows and I guess all I can say is Only Time Will Tell. :-) Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/27/00, 10:28:54 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush: I'd rather pick a random name from the phone book rather than vote for either Bush or Gore. I'll probably end up picking a name from the EFF or something like that. It's better to choose someone I'd really want knowing my canidate has no chance of winning than to throw my vote in behind someone I wouldn't trust to run my Quake server and become just another zombie. Does anyone have any favorites for who we should vote for as the Geek platform? If you wanted to get serious you might pick something like Richard Stallman and Eric Raymond (I probably killed their names but oh well.. I misspell my own name too) but I can't imagine the two of them working together if they could avoid it. So this election day vote for the losser. :) *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: "F. E. Schaper" wrote: I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I think that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this: Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on national television? I may have to move to Canada next year. I agree that this is better left somewhere else...but I can't help it...I'll never vote for a potential president whose agenda includes destroying the 2nd amendment in order to achieve the (dubious) honor of removing firearms from Americans! I say again...never. -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] 7.1 Post-install problem - re-post!
If I recall correctly when you install it says that it is NOT a good idea to set the hard drive optimisation function. I do not know if you can "undo" that or if you need to reinstall and not use that function. I don't know if this helps but at least I answered giggle Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/26/00, 3:47:31 PM, Lance Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] 7.1 Post-install problem - re-post!: Hi There I posted the message below to the list on Saturday. So far, I've had only one response which, unfortunatly, didn't take me forward in any meaningful way (thanks anyway Paul). I can't believe no one else knows the answer. Can sombody help me out... please? Lance __ Hi Guys Finally got 7.1 installed on my new system - Athlon 700, 128MB, 13.6G HDD - Linux only, no Windows. It all seemed to be going smoothly until it came to the first re-boot. It reached the point where it says; Starting hard drive optimisation for hda [OK] then it goes no further. I left it in that state for over an hour and it never moved. I could hear what sounds like disk accessing at round one minute intervals but don't see any activity on the HDD light to confirm this. Any ideas where I go from here? How do I go about tracking down what the problem might be? I created a boot disk during the install and, I suppose, I could use this to start the system. But I have absolutely no Idea what I'm looking for! One more thing. This message is part of the Interactive Startup (or Setup - not sure). Is this anything like the setup on Windows where you can step through the entries in autoexec.bat and config.sys at boot-up, choosing which drivers etc are loaded? If so, how do I do it under Linux? Is there a troubleshooting HOWTO that covers this sort of thing? All help gratefully received. Regards Lance Dow
Re: [newbie] Help, Netscape 4.75 install problem
Original Message On 9/22/00, 2:22:21 PM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Help, Netscape 4.75 install problem: Hi all, I am running into strangeness here... I want to install netscape 4.75. As per indication, I removed the old netscape stuff (meaning the communicator 4.73, and also netscape-common 4.73). Exactly what I did -- removed the 4.73 stuff... Now I am ready to install 4.75 and this happens: [root@internet paul]# rpm -iv netscape-common-4.75-7mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: XFree86 = 4.0 is needed by netscape-common-4.75-7mdk rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 is needed by netscape-common-4.75-7mdk Paul -- I am clueless as to why this happened as I didn't have any problems when I upgraded to Netscape 4.75 -- BUT I just checked to see which version of netscape I installed it was netscape-common-4.75-3mdk. I got that from gFTP the Mandrake updates. Just checked on Big Bertha and it is still at 3mdk for downloading so you might want to check that? Where did you get the 7mdk? (just curious) Good luck and let me know how it goes. Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Look at a day when you were supremely satisfied at its end. It's not a day when you lounge around doing nothing. It's when you've had everything to do and you've done it. I do not have, nor want (for now) Xfree 4. And what on earth does it complain about wanting RPMlib less than 3.0.3-1 (I have 3.0.4. running)?? Would I be better off getting the source-rpms and compile them myself? If anyone knows, please let me know... Paul -- Do they ever shut up on your planet? http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] fetchmail + wheelmouse
Original Message On 9/23/00, 1:50:14 AM, Andrew W Rounds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] fetchmail + wheelmouse: I've just installed Mandrake 7.1 and am having a few teething problems which I hope someone can give me guidance on. 1. Fetchmail I have setup fetchmail (via fetchmailconf) and it all works ok. However, when I put a symbolic link to fetchmail in my KDE autostart folder, it doesn't seem to work. But, if I kill the autostarted fetchmail, and run fetchmail from an xterm window, it works. Am I doing something wrong? I don't use Fetchmail so I can't help you there :-( but as far as the Wheelmouse goes (see below) 2. Wheelmouse IS there any documentation on getting the Logitech wheelmouse to work ? I have installed the imwheel rpm, and told Drakconf that I have a PS2 wheelmouse, but the wheel scrolling doesn't work. I am running imwheel when I login. The best documentation I have found for the wheelmouse is at http://mandrakeuser.org this site has loads of information :-) Good luck and have a great day. Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Focus on remedies, not faults. - Jack Nicklaus, Professional Golfer Thanks in anticipation for any advice.
Re: [newbie] Iomega
Try http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html instead of linuxnewgie -- typo I would guess Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/23/00, 6:40:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Iomega: no such address denis??? In a message dated 23-Sep-00 20:38:32 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the zip drive go to " http://www.linuxnewgie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html " The set up there works very well. All done in root btw. Good luck, Dennis --
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs
Larry wrote --- Did you have any problems with volumn on your SB Live card? I was talking to a neophyte Linux buddy of mine yesterday and when we installed 7.1 for him it recognized his SB Live card just fine. But he reported to me yesterday that he has no control over volume and that it's LOUD! He's tried kdemixer and tried turning the volume down in xmms. Neither seem to affect the volume? Any ideas? Fortunately I had no problems with the volume either -- when Xwindows fired up it was VERY loud, I proceeded to go the kdemixer, turned it down and it was fine. :-) Needless to say I didn't have to go to xmms so I can't say anything about that. Keep Smiling, Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 Look at a day when you were supremely satisfied at its end. It's not a day when you lounge around doing nothing. It's when you've had everything to do and you've done it. Margaret Thatcher Former British prime minister
Re: [newbie] Gaim problems
Actually I use the gaim from http://marko.net/gaim and they have the newest version out 0.10.1 and it is wonderful (imho) they also have it on an RPM. Keep smiling, Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 (G)AIM screenname -- Moonbrrz Original Message On 9/22/00, 4:25:05 AM, Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Gaim problems: Go to the AOL site and download their Linux port of AIM. You will be much happier with that one. Operates just like the windows version. Easy to install also. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, John Michael Rice wrote: ok im a windows convert and i am trying to set up gain the one that came with mandrake 7.1 well its give me some error saying thta there is no configuration file can someone help me with this
Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------
Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better. Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not experiencing the problems that others are :-) And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned. I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself. Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it. Original Message On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Is it my imagination or--: Hello Linuxers. I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built systems tend to run better than a pre-built PC bought at like either "?triangle" or "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk? I noticed for myself that my hand-built system seems to run better than my roommate's pre-built system.
Re: [newbie] Mandrakes download site: where are the netscape rpms gone?
Hi -- I used gFTP (Menu ---Networking --- File Transfer) and then went to bookmarks ---Mandrake (this brings up gwyn.tux.org) and went to updates --- 7.1 RPMS and scrolled down and got the Netscape Common 4.75 Netscape Communicator 4.75 and Netscape Navigator 4.75 and installed them through Konsole su. I sure hope this helps you. Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/19/00, 11:08:22 AM, burlington john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Mandrakes download site: where are the netscape rpms gone ?: Hello, I tried to update netscape. I checked several mirrors of the mandrake ftp server, in the update/6.1 dir there are netscape-com...rpms with 0 byte size. Where can I find the netscape 4.75 rpms for mandrake ? -- This mail was sent to you by using 100% pure Java technology.
Re: [newbie] vmware
There is a 30 day evaluation program on VMWare in the LM 7.1 Deluxe package -- I believe that it is disk #3 (but don't quote me giggle" Patti Registered Linux User #186411 Original Message On 9/18/00, 7:55:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] vmware: First off I would like to say to all that I appreciate the responce from my posting in regards to the windows program porting. The general concesses was that vmware is the best. anyway I was just wondering if there was a eval version included on the mandrake 7.1 cd or do I have to buy to try. Secondly I was wondering if it was difficult to configure. I have tried wine and it tells me I don't have a standard keyboard and will not work ???(I have a standard Win9X keyboard) any feedback would be great. Thanx in advance. Regards Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] RPM destination
Bring up Konsole -- type in "whereis java" (without the quotes) and it will tell you where it is. Mine is at /usr/bin/java Good luck, Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/15/00, 1:22:33 PM, "Robert \"JTBob\" Holland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] RPM destination: Hi, I was installing StarOffice 5.2 when it got to the point of not finding a Java environment. So I go to the Java site and download JRE 1.3 from Sun. It has a .rpm file and I run rpm to install the file. Ok, so I try the StarOffice installation again, but it still can't find the Java. I can browse, but I don't know where the files were placed when rpm installed them. How do I find out where the Java Run-time Environment was placed? Is there a way to see where rpm put the files? Thanks, Robert
Re: [newbie] RE: seti
Ozz -- No need to hide your face :-) the first time I went into linuxapps it took me forever to figure it out. In the box that explains the application, etc look in the lower left corner...there is a little picture of a house with an N after it...click that on. It is a redirect to the homepage of the originator and that where you will find the download. :-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/15/00, 2:34:00 PM, "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] RE: seti: The script I use is something I downloaded at www.linuxapps. Just search for multiseti and it is bound to show up. If not, let me know and I will send it over to you. Ok, I went to www.linuxapps.com and could only find something called mseti - a tcl script. The other thing is, how the blazes do I download from there? I didn't see anything obviously saying 'download', and I'm sure I clicked on just about everything... Regards, Ozz. (getting ready to hide his face forever if he's missed something obvious...)
Re: [newbie] RPM destination
Thanks Larry -- I appreciate the info -- I apologize for giving the wrong information. Patti hanging her head in shame ;-) Registered Linux user #184611 Original Message On 9/15/00, 5:16:46 PM, Larry Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] RPM destination: Bring up Konsole -- type in "whereis java" (without the quotes) and it will tell you where it is. Mine is at /usr/bin/java Patti, I haven't tested this extensively with Linux but with most flavors of Unix, whereis is principally used to find system-related files and searches only a specified set of paths. Thus, any specific paths created by an rpm install aren't searched. Generally using "locate" (after you've run it to set up a database of your files) is a good way to find stuff. In Linux it seems there is slocate from the GNU folks. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Canon BJC-6000
We have 2 Canon BJC-6000 and LM 7.1 automatically found it on setup. It uses BJC-610 and up and postscript!! It works quite nicely I might add :-) Don't be TOO hard on Canon -- all three of our computers use some sort of Canon printer (even an old BJC-620) ;-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/12/00, 9:39:16 PM, Digital Wokan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Canon BJC-6000: Just got one. Set your flamethrowers on high because I didn't look until afterward to see if Canon supported Linux. I know that the 600 and the 4000 series printers were supported. Anyone out there running a BJC-6000, or am I going to have to hook this thing up to a winblows box and print to it whenever it isn't busy crashing? P.S.: Any Canon people out there reading this, please direct your flamethrowers at your marketing department. I'm sure your techs are smart enough to create the drivers, but marketing hasn't told management there's profit in Linux yet it seems. -- Digital Wokan Tribal mage of the electronics age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [newbie] More C++ problems
Here is something that was on the Cooker list regarding iostream.h and thought I would send this along -- I don't know if this is your problem or not :-) snip libstdc++-devel installed yet? -- Geoff Woohoo! That was it! Oddly enough that package isn't even on the main CD. Doesn't that seem important enough to get installed with the base install??? How does one compile C++ apps without it? snip Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/12/00, 10:24:25 PM, Mark Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] More C++ problems: Alright, I was finally able to install the developer version of Linux, I just used the one CD and it worked. Anyway, now I use g++ (part of the gcc) at school. What happens now is that none of the libraries are there. I checked using whereis iostream.h -- nothing. I know that I can download it from the internet, any ideas on where to find it? Is it in an RPM file or will I have to use a tar? Anyway, hopefully by tomorrow this will be solved. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: "Mark Thurston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] More C++ problems That being the case, I have a ABIT motherboard that is about 10 months old and it is made for a PIII. How can I change the installation so that it uses Grub or change the bios settings so that it supports Large Harddrives? I had previously installed the automated version and it worked just fine, why is there a difference when I install the development version? Mark - Original Message - From: "Charles A Edwards" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] More C++ problems Mark The LBA is causing your problem NOT the # of CDs you install from. I did the Dev. install on 2 machines and on both used all 4 Cds with no problems. If your BIOS does not support LBA(Large Block Address) which is a fancy way of saying Large Harddrives then the bootloader you choose to use and were you install it are critical. Grub has no problem with it but the LILO as shipped with 7.1 does. Charles (-: - Original Message - From: "Mark Thurston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] More C++ problems That sounds like a good idea, I am using the Complete 7.1 installation. So what packages are on the applications CD? I know that Star Office is there, what else is on it? Thanks again. Mark - Original Message - From: "Patti Wavinak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] More C++ problems Mark -- which distro are you using? Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe? ISO images? With the errors you are getting I am guessing the Deluxe package and using all 4 CD's (install, ext, application 1 and application 2) It has been my experience when you use all 4 CD's you will get this exact error. Try installing the developer version with only the install CD and the Ext CD -- NOT any of the application CD's and you shouldn't have any problem. That is what I had to do anyhow on all 3 of our computers. :-) Let me know how it works out. Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message dated 9/12/00, 6:06:08 AM Author: Mark Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [newbie] More C++ problems: This is Mark again, I tried to install the developer version of Mandrake-Linux so that I could get the developer utilities. Everything went smoothly until I tried to make a bootdisk, it said that the bootdisk program had failed. I thought, well I will just make one later then. So on I go to the Bootloader... I tried every possible combination, and I tried installing it twice, the same problem came up, at the Bootloader main options screen I got the following error: "LBA (doesn't work on old BIOSse)" Now this is rather perplexing to me, because I installed the "Automated" version before and I had no such problem. What am I doing wrong? I have to get this working as soon as possible. Thanks Mark
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]
I hate to disappoint you or maybe I am just lucky -- I have Star Office 5.2 in Linux with 2.2.16 kernel a PII 450 processor and 256M of memory. I just timed how long it took to bring it up -- less than 3 seconds after I clicked on the icon. I'll stick with Star Office but that's jmho. ;-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/13/00, 2:18:01 PM, Abe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird ka7-100]: your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It crawls on 384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the newspaper, cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! hahahahahaha Abe = Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half understand having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as a server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than just sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get lost in all that room! :( I was talking to someone a while ago who said that Star Office likes 250Mb RAM to run properly - it CRAWLS on less. NutScrape takes a fair bit too. Add VWMare to the package, with a couple of clients, and a gig goes in no time #;-( Regards, Ozz. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] More C++ problems
What packages? The extras such as Real Player, Acroreader and others. Your best bet is to stick the CD in and look at it -- it will tell you which packages are on each application CD. :-) Patti Original Message On 9/12/00, 6:50:37 AM, Mark Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] More C++ problems: That sounds like a good idea, I am using the Complete 7.1 installation. So what packages are on the applications CD? I know that Star Office is there, what else is on it? Thanks again. Mark - Original Message - From: "Patti Wavinak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] More C++ problems Mark -- which distro are you using? Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe? ISO images? With the errors you are getting I am guessing the Deluxe package and using all 4 CD's (install, ext, application 1 and application 2) It has been my experience when you use all 4 CD's you will get this exact error. Try installing the developer version with only the install CD and the Ext CD -- NOT any of the application CD's and you shouldn't have any problem. That is what I had to do anyhow on all 3 of our computers. :-) Let me know how it works out. Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message dated 9/12/00, 6:06:08 AM Author: Mark Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [newbie] More C++ problems: This is Mark again, I tried to install the developer version of Mandrake-Linux so that I could get the developer utilities. Everything went smoothly until I tried to make a bootdisk, it said that the bootdisk program had failed. I thought, well I will just make one later then. So on I go to the Bootloader... I tried every possible combination, and I tried installing it twice, the same problem came up, at the Bootloader main options screen I got the following error: "LBA (doesn't work on old BIOSse)" Now this is rather perplexing to me, because I installed the "Automated" version before and I had no such problem. What am I doing wrong? I have to get this working as soon as possible. Thanks Mark
Re: [newbie] how to updating the kernel
The way I did it was I went to my favorite ftp site -- Mandrake --- updates
--- 7.1--- and downloaded the kernel 2.2.16 and kernel-docs 2.2.16. I then
brought up the terminal and su'd into root and entered "rpm -ivh {the rpm name
complete}" enter (without the quotes). If you have an IDE hd it will
automatically put the information into grub if you have a SCSI drive you need
to add additional information.
Go to http://mandrakeuser.org and enter kernel into the search and you
will find invaluable information on upgrading your kernel.
Patti
Registered Linux User #184611
Original Message
On 9/10/00, 11:41:35 AM, syhim77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding
[newbie] how to updating the kernel:
syhim77 wrote
how to updating the kernel ? i 've installed linux mandrake 7.1 with
kernel
2.2.15
can anybody help me
Re: [newbie] RAM Detection
We have identical motherboards and the mobo detects all of my ram -- go figure ;-) Patti Registered Linux User 184611 Original Message On 9/9/00, 7:55:45 PM, Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] RAM Detection: Hi Dennis, I didn't have any trouble when I installed Mandrake on my machine at work. It too has 128MB RAM. I think though it's got something to do with the mobo that's being used. I guess some do and some don't. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: I just checked on my install of 7.0 to double boot with Win98 and found that the installation detected my 128M of ram. Why would it work on my machine when I read that so many others must do the append mem= thing to get their RAM recognized? Not complaining, just curious, cause maybe there is something in autodetect that happens during config. Has anyone else seen the correct ram detected during installation?
Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.
Personally I would go with DSL if it is available in your area. My reason for this is the main reason a person gets cable or DSL is because of the fast connection and being on 24/7. The more subscribers on a cable line the slower it will access (and download) depending on the amount of people that are "on" at that time. We have our DSL line through Pacbell and they do not support Linux (if you should have a problem) and I believe that most of them will say that they don't support Linux. I have figured out the reasoning for this and that is because Linux has a much faster bandwidth than Windows does. I tested this out when downloading the 7.2 Beta -- on Linux it downloaded at an average of 148 K/sec when doing it on Windows it was 52K/sec BIG DIFFERENCE!! Just throwing in my $.02 worth (add California tax 8.5%) giggle Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/8/00, 4:15:35 AM, Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.: Setting up a cable modem to work in linux is usually as easy as setting up a network card. However, apparently depending on your local provider's implementation, there are a couple things to keep in mind: Most cable providers use DHCP to assign the IPs to attached hosts, but some use Static assignments.If they use DHCP make sure you have the latest DHCPD or pumpd, whichever you plan to use. Most cable companies seem use the MAC address of the cable modem itself for LAN identification, but a few are actually using the MAC address of your internal network card. This will cause problems if you need to change the network card in your computer. Check with your cable provider, and try to get as much information out of them as possible. It may not be easy...the support techs I've had to speak with at optonline don't seem to have a clue about networking issues. The big solution is to turn off the computer, turn off the modem, and then turn both back on. Oh, and then try using WinIPConfig.exe in windows (they hardly even undestand the output of the command line "ipconfig /all". --Greg - Original Message - From: "Robin Regennitter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am thinking about getting cable modem as my internet connection and I wonder if there would be any problem with getting connected with Linux. Has anyone got cable modem that would like to share with me. Problems or not? Like some advice before getting it. Rob __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] scroll button on mouse
This was a hot topic of conversation when I first joined the newbie list :-) One of the best things that a new newbie giggle can do is go to the archives and check and see if the problem you are having has been discussed and probably solved. With that said -- another excellent source of information for the newbie is something that I refer to as "My Bible" and that is http://mandrakeuser.org It has a WEALTH of information and has not failed me yet. Here is the info on the your wheel mouse -- First you have to edit '/etc/X11/XF86Config'. Go to the 'Pointer Section' of this file and add this line: ZAxisMapping 4 5 This tells the X server to treat the wheel-up and the wheel-down movements as mouse buttons (and that's what they actually are). If you own a PS/2 mouse, change the line Protocol "PS/2" to Protocol "imps/2". Next look for the line Emulate3Buttons Make sure that there's a hash sign (#) in front of this line (which disables the emulation). Now all that's left to do is to copy the file '/etc/X11/imwheelrc' to your home directory and rename it to '.imwheelrc': cp /etc/X11/imwheelrc ~/.imwheelrc Restart X, run imwheel -k and everything should work fine now. If it does, you should add this command to your '.xinitrc' or '.xsessionrc' to have it executed automatically on every X startup. Have a wonderful day!!! Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/13/00, 1:36:14 PM, Mikael Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] scroll button on mouse: I wondering if someone knows how to install my scroll button on my mouse. I uses an USB mouse...
Re: [newbie] netscape segmentation fault
I guess it's time for me to chirp in giggle. I use Star Office for both mail and browser and have found it extremely useful...it is more like a mini-operating system than a office suite. I need to use Netscape for my work (and knock on wood haven't had too many problems with it)but all in all I prefer Star Office. Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/8/00, 6:36:55 PM, Larry Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] netscape segmentation fault: I don't mean to sound like a luddite but I really like communicator. I use it for my personal email and my work email. I like the mail reader portion of it too. I haven't found the mail reading stuff to be bad but geez...the addressbook is little more than scrawling the addresses on the wall. I do a lot of email and have several hundred email addresses in my Eudora addressbook. Right now it's easier for me to work with a text version of that in an editor window than to deal with the Communicator addressbook. The fact that Netscape is the only app I run under Linux that crashes regularly, I'd rather use is less than more. Cheers --- Larry
RE: [newbie] nic card
Larry has a 3Com out of the box works great using 7.1 -- Same with Big Bertha (our test box)and I have a Soho out of the box using 7.1DSL and everything is wonderful for us :-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/7/00, 8:05:35 AM, "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RE: [newbie] nic card: I use a 3Com and it worked out of the box. I also run 7.1. Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -Original Message- From: mark willenbring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] nic card Hi I am Running 7.1. Do you guys know of a good nic card ISA or PCI that is reasonable and works well with Mandrake? Thanks for your help Mark __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Linmodems
I went to their homepage http://www.mandrakeforum.com and about ½ way down on the right hand side is a heading that says forum and Join the Forum Mailing list. See ya there Paul giggle Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/7/00, 12:53:13 PM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Linmodems: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Denis Havlik wrote: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :~(http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=2905114341) BTW: If you want to receive ALL forum headlines in your INBOX, subscribe to "forum" mailing list. This means ca 3-5 mails a day, and it is quite informative... I have tried to find this mailing list, but I can only find the website. Where did you hide the list? Paul -- I'm not into working out. My philosophy: No pain, no pain. -Carol Leifer http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Downloading newer kernel and header file
Roman -- What type of hard drive do you have? Is is IDE or SCSI? If it is SCSI then you need to append additional information into Lilo or Grub and you also have to make an initrd file for the new kernel. I just upgraded my kernel to 2.2.16 -- the first time I did it I couldn't bring Linux up, the kernel panicked giggle Go to http://mandrakeuser.org/install/kupgrade2.html and follow his instructions, it works like a charm. I hope this is what you were looking for and that it helps you. Patti - Registered Linux User #184611 AIM - Moonbrrz ICQ - #64659723 Original Message On 9/4/00, 2:01:37 PM, Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Downloading newer kernel and header file: Hi everybody, I had the developer installation with lilo and Linux mdk7.1b Hydrogen. After running it for some time, I downloaded the kernel update and header files separately(as per update instructions). However, when I rebooted my computer, I got the lilo prompt. I typed in linux, and it appeared to start but it stalled or froze. The weird thing is lilo worked pass the 1024 cylinder barrier. I have assigned about 4 Gig. for the entire Linux partition. Lilo worked until the kernel update. I would still prefer the development installation. Any ideas? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179292
Re: [newbie] Browser Fonts...
Robert -- If you are using Netscape (or as some affectionately call it "Nutscrape" giggle) go to edit --- preferences appearance fonts. You can then change the font face and/or the font size to what you would like. I also check the "Use my default fonts, overriding" Hope this helps :-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 Original Message On 9/3/00, 8:07:50 AM, Robert Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Browser Fonts...: Hi, when i'm surfing on the net all the fonts on web page's are tiny and a horrible font type, i can put up with it but if anybody knows how to change them, i would be grateful, there kinda hard to read on certain pages. Thanks in advance... Robert. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [newbie] checking e-mail with Netscape
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Re: [newbie] Is it Linux or Linux?
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Re: [newbie] Problems with printer and modem install in Mandrake 7.1
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[newbie] OS Sucks-Rules-o-Meter
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Re: [newbie] RPM problem thanx
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Re: [newbie] Netscape instant messenger?
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Re: [newbie] Internet configuration for Mandrake 7.0
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Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)
Paul!! That was absolutely FANTASTIC. Also, in reply to all the others in the Windoze vs Linux and tires and hardware etc I just have to add my $1.00 (inflation you know) To all of you who say how easy Windoze is and fast -- are you taking into account all the time it takes for rebooting EVERY time you add a new program? How often are you rebooting when you add a new RPM or upgrade one? Just food for thought :-) Patti Registered Linux User 184611 Paul wrote: -- The problem with learning experience: you never graduate... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- -- Forwarded message -- Microsoft To Allow Changing Of Blue Screen Of Death In a surprise announcement today, Microsoft President Steve Ballmer revealed that the Redmond-based company will allow computer resellers and end-users to customize the appearance of the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD), the screen that displays when the Windows operating system crashes. The move comes as the result of numerous focus groups and customer surveys done by Microsoft. Thousands of Microsoft customers were asked, "What do you spend the most time doing on your computer?" A surprising number of respondents said, "Staring at a Blue Screen of Death." At 54 percent, it was the top answer, beating the second place answer "Downloading XXXScans" by an easy 12 points. "We immediately recognized this as a great opportunity for ourselves, our channel partners, and especially our customers," explained the excited Ballmer to a room full of reporters. Immense video displays were used to show images of the new customizable BSOD screen side-by-side with the older static version. Users can select from a collection of "BSOD Themes," allowing them to instead have a Mauve Screen of Death or even a Paisley Screen of Death. Graphics and multimedia content can now be incorporated into the screen, making the BSOD the perfect conduit for delivering product information and entertainment to Windows users. The BSOD is by far the most recognized feature of the Windows operating system, and as a result, Microsoft has historically insisted on total control over its look and feel. This recent departure from that policy reflects Microsoft's recognition of the Windows desktop itself as the "ultimate information portal." By default, the new BSOD will be configured to show a random selection of Microsoft product information whenever the system crashes. Microsoft channel partners can negotiate with Microsoft for the right to customize the BSOD on systems they ship. Major computer resellers such as Compaq, Gateway, and Dell are already lining up for premier placement on the new and improved BSOD. Ballmer concluded by getting a dig in against the Open Source community. "This just goes to show that Microsoft continues to innovate at a much faster pace than open source. I have yet to see any evidence that Linux even has a BSOD, let alone a customizable one."
Re: [newbie] Boot failure
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Re: [newbie] two copies
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Re: [newbie] Problems w/Netscape 4.73 Mandrake Updater
Hi Cindy -- When you go into the ftp site looking for updates make sure
that you go to the update folder in Mandrake 7.1 -- you will find the
Netscape 4.74 there (and yes, it does exist grin). I personally use
ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake -- but that is because I am on the
West Coast.
As far as a better browser in Linux, so far Netscape seems the most stable
to me. Again, personally, I never cared for IE even when I was a windoze
user -- always used Netscape there too.
Good luck,
Patti
Registered Linux User #184611
Cindy Bartorillo wrote:
Netscape 4.73 seems unable to load several java pages that are favorites
around my house, such as a couple of the games at Yahoo. The Mandrake
Update feature gives me a list of all the things it can get for me,
among which is Netscape 4.74, but every time I try to get it I get an
error ('error fetching').
The weird part is that I ftp'ed to half a dozen mirror sites, including
ones listed by the Updater, and can't find any 4.74 at all. All the
Netscapes available for download are 4.73.
Does anyone know if this 4.74 really exists? Is the Mandrake Updater
generally kinda flaky, or is it a local problem?
While I'm at it, does anyone know of a better browser? As someone who's
accustomed to IE, Netscape is a real disappointment.
CindyB
Re: Undeliverable: Re: [newbie] New install (fwd)
I got one of these at about the same time that you did Paul sigh Paul wrote: Huh? -- Exceptions confirm the rule and ruin the budget. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:46:12 +0100 From: System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: Re: [newbie] New install Your message To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] New install Sent:Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:47:24 +0100 did not reach the following recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:46:04 +0100 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER10008141846QXLLCK6M MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient
Re: [newbie] GAIM L-M 7.1
The GAIM that came with 7.1 does NOT work as it is not configured properly. Also, I believe it is 0.9.19 and there is a newer version out on their website. Go to http://www.marko.net/gaim. Click on their "Official FTP Site" and go to the 0.9.20 RPM -- download it and install it. It no longer comes up on your menu but if you Alt F2 and type in gaim you get it. Patti Registered Linux User 184611 GAIM screenname - Moonbrrz Paul wrote: On 13 Aug 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote: Anyone know if the GAIM that comes with 7.1 works, or has AOL sabotage the configuration? My sons use AIM in W98 and it's about the only thing they log into windows for. If I can get GAIM working they'd probably stick to linux exclusively. When I enter one their login names and password, it comes back "no configuration". If I use the wrong password, I get the error message "Login failed" or something to that effect. I don't see anything that would allow me to make special configuration arrangements w/i GAIM itself. Hi Mike, I have GAIM running, but I have not used it yet, since I have no 'buddies' yet. In case you want to give it a try, my Gaim-Name (gaim-naim? ;-) is paulnl1960. Perhaps it is running when you get online with it (I am not online 24/7) so we can check if it does work! Paul -- The person who is never wrong is totally wrong - Tennyson )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
I personally cannot thank Tom enough for mentioning mandrakeuser.org (btw there is no www first). It has a wealth of information in it. I plan on utilizing this resource so frequently that I even filed it on my personal toolbar in Netscape so I wouldn't have to hunt for it in my bookmarks. :-) I would urge every newbie to take a look at this site. Patti Registered Linux user #184611 Tom Brinkman wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: Mark Hillary wrote: Come on updating the kernel is not has hard as everyone makes out. (I find it easyier that installing programs). There are several resons to. The kernel that comes with mandrake haas about everything turned on, so you can have a faster system by compling only what you need to. Also because every thing is turned on all of the moduals take up space. RECOMPLIE to get a faster machine and save space. (not to mention the bug fixes, in newer versions) Well, it may not be a problem to you, but it is the cause of many headaches to me. The last few times I've tried upgrading from 2.2.14 to 2.4.0-test5 I've hit the black screen of death straight after the "loading" bit. Regards, Ozz. Mark's on track, updating a Mdk kernel is one of the easier things involved with Mdk administration. It shouldn't be any problem at all for any user, even the newest of newbies if they first take a few minutes to visit with MOU (www.mandrakeuser.org) and read the section on changing kernels. The whole site is available as a download (.tar.gz, updated monthly) so it's easy to keep it as a help guide to refer to while you're actually tryin to follow it's instructions. "-test5" Should be a glaring warning, among the many warnings that only 2.2.xx kernels are stable, that a successful swap to a 2.4.xx kernel is froth with risk. Getting back to 2.2.xx kernels, about the only reason to change the default Mandrake config is if you have special, difficult, or newest of new hardware that isn't supported normally. Most stuff in the 'stock Mandrake' kernel is included as a module if it's not fairly standard, so eliminating it will not make your system faster in all but the rarest of cases, and then usually old or substandard hardware would be the reason. -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Cannot download with Netscape?
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[newbie] testing
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[newbie] Memory detection problem - using Grub
I have installed Mandrake 7.1 on a Pentium II 450Mhz with 256 MB of RAM. It is only showing 65 MB of ram being detected, even though I entered 256 during install. In looking over the archives I notice there was discussion and how to fix this in the /etc/lilo.conf BUT I am using Grub. I am hoping that someone out there can help me with this problem. I am a real newbie -- my first install of Linux was 2 weeks ago on July 8th and I love it!!! Patti Wavinak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Memory detection problem using GRUB
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