[nlug] Re: Configuring Squid transparent proxy with Shorewall in Webmin

[Perkins, Jerry]

   I do not know if this will be any help, but here are my notes on
Squid Debian that I found on my wiki.

 Squid 
Also see Dansguardian

Access;

  Proxy access 192.168.15.202:3128 or 65.13.247.248:3128(?)
  Proxy access on Dana, 127.0.0.1:3128.

Commands:

  squid stop (?)
  squid start
  squid -k check

Configuration

/etc/squid/sarg.conf (Report logger)

  output_dir /srv/www/squid-reports  (line 143)
  #  www_document_root /var/www  (line 488)
  /etc/squid/squid.conf
  # NETWORK OPTIONS
  # OPTIONS WHICH AFFECT THE NEIGHBOR SELECTION ALGORITHM
  # OPTIONS WHICH AFFECT THE CACHE SIZE
  # LOGFILE PATHNAMES AND CACHE DIRECTORIES
  # OPTIONS FOR EXTERNAL SUPPORT PROGRAMS
  hosts_file /etc/hosts(line 988, same as default)
  # OPTIONS FOR TUNING THE CACHE
  # TIMEOUTS
  # ACCESS CONTROLS
  acl Safe_ports port 1 # Webmin   (line 1,825)
  # http_access deny to_localhost (line 1,866)  (Change to uncomment?)
  acl our_networks src 192.168.1.0/24  (line 1,874, need for other computers to access)
  http_access allow our_networks (line 1,875, need for other computers to access)
  http_access allow localhost   (line 1,876, was in original)
  # ADMINISTRATIVE PARAMETERS
  # visible_hostname david  (line 2,103)   (I use this at home when error of host)
  # OPTIONS FOR THE CACHE REGISTRATION SERVICE
  # HTTPD-ACCELERATOR OPTIONS
  # MISCELLANEOUS
  # DELAY POOL PARAMETERS
  coredump_dir /var/spool/squid   (line 3,167, was in original)

Reference:

  Install Transparent Proxy and Content filtering in Debian Etch
  Squid caching

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[nlug] Re: remote access options?

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./aal wrote:
> I want to access my home boxes from the world. I cannot port-forward.
> What options do you guys know for accessing servers on your home lan
> from the net that dont require open ports?
>   
   I thought that SSH should always be open.   Is there a reason that
SSH is closed?

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[nlug] Calendar

[Perkins, Jerry]

   I am wanting to set up a calendar for our Church (
http://oursaviorlcms.org/ ).   So I am looking for some comments on the
best way to go about this.

Criteria:
   15 to 50 users.
   Users can share calendars.
   Has a number of group calendars
   Two of the groups calendars can be exported to different web sites.
   Items on a personal calendar can be marked to show up on one or more
of the group calendars.
   Accessed from any platform.
   Can be accessed from outside the Church network.
   Database is stored on a network server.
   Uses a standard base that, in time, we will not have to migrate to
something else.
 
Current thoughts:

   Right now it looks like the way to go is with DEViCal (
http://wiki.davical.org/w/Main_Page ), which is the server and creates a
iCal file.  This is accessed by a number of different clients (
http://wiki.davical.org/w/CalDAV_Clients )

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[nlug] Re: ssh tricks

[Perkins, Jerry]

t35t0r wrote:
>> Similarly, you can use -X with ssh to do X11 forwarding.
>> Using -X also sets the remote sides DISPLAY environment
>> 
>
> I've seen some apps gecko apps require -Y rather than -X, still I
> think NX is the way to go for platforms that support the NX client.
   I believe that you should always use -Y.   -X is obsolete.   I think
OS-X does not even recognize -X.

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[nlug] Re: Double messages

[Perkins, Jerry]

Bruce W. Martin wrote:
> Is it just me or is everyone getting an extra copy of every message  
> since yesterday's message from Michael?
   I started getting an extra copy, but the copy is sent to my old
e-mail address that I removed from the list some time ago.

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[nlug] Computer move

[Perkins, Jerry]

   Just purchased a new Intel-64 bit server for the Church.   Have
installed Debian Lenny.  The old one is 686 AMD with Debian Etch.
   Plan on step by step going through the configuration, but would like
to move the 40 users with passwords.
   Does anyone know if the encryption is the same between Etch and Lenny?

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[nlug] Re: Computer move

[Perkins, Jerry]

Perkins, Jerry wrote:
>Just purchased a new Intel-64 bit server for the Church.   Have
> installed Debian Lenny.  The old one is 686 AMD with Debian Etch.
>Plan on step by step going through the configuration, but would like
> to move the 40 users with passwords.
>Does anyone know if the encryption is the same between Etch and Lenny?
   Yes it works.   Tested between systems.  Cool.
   FYI, the encryption looks different.  But that is because there is
"salt" contained within the encryption.

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[nlug] Re: at&t u-verse

[Perkins, Jerry]

Ken Johnson wrote:
> has anyone got u-verse at home yet?  i'm pondering a move and curious
> to know any local experiences.  most of what i see online is dated so
> i can't rely on the current roll out being similar.
   We had it installed two weeks ago.

   The door to door salesmen seams very knowledgeable.  BUT, did not
tell us about the extra $10 per month for HD service.

   Comcast blocked port 25 last year and did not tell me.   Called and
was told that I was spamming.  Two days later they finally told me to
change ports.  Then spent three more weeks trying to get port 25
unblocked.   They ran me around in circles.  Finally gave up.
   Got U-verse.  Found port 25 blocked.  Called U-verse help.   After a
minuet she found out that i did not have the standard client in her
book.  So she just asked me to open the configuration area.  Asked which
port.  Told her 25.  She unblocked it.  Total time on phone was about 2
1/2 minuets!!!

   A few days after getting U-verse, the HD stopped working.  Called at
help 1:30 PM.  man would be out between 2 and 4 pm.  They called at 2:30
pm saying he would be late.  He showed up at 4:15 pm.   In 4 minuets
found that we did not have HD in the package.   He had it added in and
turned on in a few minuets.

   The router is Cisco.   It really sucks, but does get the job done.

   Wireless does have a bigger range.  How of why I don't know, but it does.
 
   Speed:   I got the one step up for Internet speed.   Faster than DSL,
which I have found is faster than Comcast.  Speed stays the same all day
long.  No throttle back like Comcast.   Wife does not notice a difference.

   SERVICE IS GREAT!   No more of this Comcast "We do not support
your system" crap.

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[nlug] Re: DSL: Is it worth switching?

[Perkins, Jerry]

Chris McQuistion wrote:
> I would stick with Comcast.  Their service is MUCH faster than DSL.
   It has been my experience that DSL is faster.   This is from 6 years
of experience using both systems.  In fact on big downloads DSL is
always faster EVEN when I am connected via X-Forwarding which puts DSL
at a disadvantage.

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[nlug] Re: DSL: Is it worth switching?

[Perkins, Jerry]

xor wrote:
> Also, I've heard that Comcast will drop your rate for a few months if
> you call them & want to drop their service.  Is that true?

   Two weeks ago I called them and they did not offer a break in the
rate.   But two months ago we were going to drop Dish and the wife
talked them down to $7.95 a month.

   A couple of weeks ago someone at out Friday morning Bible study asked
to report on my experience of getting U-verse.  Following is what I sent
out this morning:

***

Joel asked me a few weeks ago to write up my experience of going
from Comcast to the new competing AT&T U-verse service.   Since I also
have had experience with Bell South DSL, I will include that.  So here
it is.

   We had it installed three weeks ago.   The door to door salesmen
seemed very knowledgeable.   BUT, did not tell us about the extra $10
per month for HD service and found out later that he put on a good show.

COST:
   Comcast Internet only = $64
   Dish ~100 channels = $7.95 / month
   DSL Ultra is 1.5 Mbs up and 256 down. ($33/mo)
   DSL Extreme is 3 Mbs up and 384 down. ($38/mo)
   DSL Extreme 6 is 6 Mbs up and 512 Kbps down. ($43/mo)
   U-verse 100 channels = $44,  200  = $59 , 300 = $79, 400 = $99
   U-verse HD = $10
   U-verse Internet, slowest to fastest ( got the second one)  = $33,
$38, $43, $55, $ 65.

TV:
   Choice of channels is about the same, but U-verse has local channels
as standard.  Both have extra premium channels.   I think U-verse has
more standard HD channels.   DSL does not have TV, but there is always
Dish which has been good.

INTERNET SPEED:
U-verse is fastest, then DSL Extreme, last Comcast.   Comcast is the
only one that you have to share your connection with 100+ others, hence
can really slow down when others are awake.

ROUTER:
Both DSL and U-verse have an all in one router / modem.   You are
stuck with no selection.  The U-verse router really sucks, but has
pretty graphics.   Comcast is best since you can buy your own.
Wireless on the U-verse does have a lot more range.   But takes
forever to connect.

UP TIME:
Since it has been only three weeks with U-verse, this is unknown.
But there are fiber optics to the entrance of the neighborhood, which is
good.
Bell South DSL is great, always up.   Comcast has a lot of
problems.   Dish has some problems, but is short lived.

SERVICE:
U-verse is great.   How about less than 3 hours to have a service
man to your house, with an apology that they took so long!
Dish and DSL are good.
Comcast is bad, really bad.   No more of this from Comcast, "We do
not support your system", then they hang up.   See ,
http://crashsystems.net/2008/08/comcast-wont-support-linux/

THE STORY & COMMENTS:
Comcast blocked e-mail port 25 last year and did not tell me.
Called and was told that I was spamming.   Two days later they finally
told me to change ports.   Then spent three more weeks trying to get
port 25 unblocked. They ran me around in circles.   Finally gave up,
finally getting my e-mail back.
Then I got U-verse. Also found e-mail port 25 blocked. Called
U-verse help. After a minuet she found out that I did not have the
e-mail client in her help book.   So she just asked me to open the
configuration area.   Asked which port.   Told her 25.   She then
unblocked it in about 15 seconds.   Total time on phone was about 2 1/2
minuets!!!

A few days after getting U-verse, the HD stopped working.   Called
the help desk at 1:30 PM.  Told that a man would be out between 2 and 4
pm.   They called at 2:30 pm saying he would be late.   He showed up at
4:15 pm.   In 4 minuets found that we did not have HD in the package.
He had it added in and turned on in a few minuets.

Speed: Faster than the Church DSL.   The DSL I have found is faster
than Comcast.   Speed stays the same all day long. No throttle back like
Comcast.   The Wife does not notice a difference.

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[nlug] Clean inside monitor?

[Perkins, Jerry]

   The wife, Sharon, sent me an e-mail yesterday.
   Does any one know if this e-mail is true or just a hoax.   I suspect
that it may only be needed on Microsoft machines.   But Sharon runs OS-X.
   Here is the e-mail:
***

YOU ALWAYS CLEAN THE OUTSIDE OF YOUR MONITOR SCREEN...
 This is  EXTREMELY IMPORTANT for your computer...This is a matter
of losing your information..  You have to see this one!!
DID YOU KNOW IT IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO CLEAN THE INSIDE?
CLICK ON THE SITE BELOW TO ACCOMPLISH THIS... 
  http://appraisercentral.com/cleanscreen.swf

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Perkins, Jerry]

Michael Chaney wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
>   
>> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
>> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
>> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
>> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
>> underway, the officials said."
>>
>> The full story is here:
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>> 
>
> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.
>   
   Or is it:
   There is not problem so small that it can try to be solved by big
government.

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Perkins, Jerry]

Chris McQuistion wrote:
> ...and if that doesn't solve it, just make government bigger...
   That is exactly what is happening.


>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Chaney
> mailto:mdcha...@michaelchaney.com>> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  > wrote:
> > "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> > vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> > White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to
> shut
> > down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> > underway, the officials said."
> >
> > The full story is here:
> >
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>
> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
> mdcha...@michaelchaney.com 
> http://www.michaelchaney.com/
>
>
>
>
> >


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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

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Mark J. Bailey wrote:
>
> if this is anything like the way HIPAA "federalized" healthcare data
> handling, but for EVERY industry, you might want to consider a career
> change!  :-)  let's hope this doesn't reach that far (or, better yet,
> go nowhere at all is my vote).  HIPAA also came with a huge
> implementation ramp up and overhead for the healthcare end of things. 
> I can't imagine how small business owners would survive the weight of
> something of that scope if applied across the board in this economy. 
> I realize that the article implies a scope that includes mainly
> larger, public service type entities.  But, once the government body
> is in place, it will be like cancer seeking out more and more niches
> to occupy.
>
   I may agree with you, but the time has passed for discussion.   The
electorate has spoke and that is the way it is going to be.

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[nlug] Off Topic - Pictures

[Perkins, Jerry]

   Tuesday night I heard a few who were planning to go to the Tea 
Party.   For those interested, here are some picture from it
http://jperkins.us/commentary/Nashville_Tea_Party-1/
http://jperkins.us/commentary/Nashville_Tea_Party-2/

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[nlug] Wireless (radio) access point question.

[Perkins, Jerry]

   I am updating the wireless (radio) network at our Church.  So a 
couple of best practices questions.

1)  For the SSID, is it best to use the same one for each access point?

2)  Is it best to use different radio frequencies (aka channels) or the 
same common frequency?

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   lust -- as in "lust for power" which is what Windows users have because they 
don't have that much.

   gluttony -- as in the way Windows eats memory.

   greed -- as in the dictionary definition of "Micro$oft".

   sloth -- as in lazy programmers writing a gaming platform and passing it off 
as an OS.

   wrath -- five words:  Steve Ballmer throwing a chair

   envy -- what Windows people have of 'nix.

   pride -- as in "a pride of lions", except they're actually Micro$oft 
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[nlug] Re: Wireless (radio) access point question.

[Perkins, Jerry]

Chris McQuistion wrote:
> Yes on both counts.  For ease of use, just use the same SSID on all 
> access points, but use different channels, where possible.  Try to 
> just use Channel 1, 6, and 11, as those are the so-called "clear 
> channels".  If you have some close neighbors using any of those 
> channels, then avoid them.
   Thanks for the info.
   But what are "clear channels"?


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7 cardinal sins

   lust -- as in "lust for power" which is what Windows users have because they 
don't have that much.

   gluttony -- as in the way Windows eats memory.

   greed -- as in the dictionary definition of "Micro$oft".

   sloth -- as in lazy programmers writing a gaming platform and passing it off 
as an OS.

   wrath -- five words:  Steve Ballmer throwing a chair

   envy -- what Windows people have of 'nix.

   pride -- as in "a pride of lions", except they're actually Micro$oft 
lawyers.  Still fierce, destructive carnivorous beasts though.


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[nlug] Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

[Perkins, Jerry]

   I have a number Linksys WRT54Gs router / WiFi units.
   Would like to turn off the DHCP, hence turning these boxes into a 
switch / access point for the network.   From what I understand you can 
not do that with the standard firmware , but it is possible with Tomato.
   Am I on the right track?

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[nlug] Re: Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

[Perkins, Jerry]

Jonathan Moore wrote:

  On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
  
  
  I have a number Linksys WRT54Gs router / WiFi units.
  Would like to turn off the DHCP, hence turning these boxes into a
switch / access point for the network.   From what I understand you can
not do that with the standard firmware , but it is possible with Tomato.
  Am I on the right track?

  
  

All you do is disable DHCP.  As far as I know, you can still do that.
I *know* you
can do that on WRT54G and WRT54GL, the GS might be different, but I wouldn't
think so.

If you want them just as a switch, don't use the port labeled WAN obviously.

However, loading tomato or such does give you a bit more options as far
as configuration goes, and might be worth the effort anyways.
  

   I have been a failure at that.   Must be something missing.   Here
is the configuration (some parts snipped out)

Notes:
  
  Gateway is 192.168.15.2

 Plugin 12v only.
 Reset: Three seconds on reset.
 Access: LAN port #1(?) 192.168.1.1, User empty, Password admin.
 Administration:
 Management:
   Local Area Access:  Set password
   Remote Router Access: Enable, port 8080
   Access Server = HTTP
   Wireless Access web = Enable
   Remote management = Enable
 Wireless:
   Basic Wireless Settings:
 Wireless Network Mode = Mixed
 Wireless Network Name  (SSID) = OSL
 Wireless SSID Broadcast: = Enable
 Setup
   DDNS
 DDNS Service: Disable
   Advanced Routing
   Operating Mode = Routing.
   Dynamic Routing = Disabled
   Basic Setup
 Internet setup:
   Internet Configuration Type = DHCP
   Router Name = OSL-
   Host (Device) Name = WiFi-
 Network Setup:
   Local IP Address = 192.168.15.1
   DHCP Server = Disable
   FAILS AT THIS POINT.
 Time Setting:  Central



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[nlug] Re: Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

[Perkins, Jerry]

Jim Peterson wrote:

  
  
We have a WRT54G2, the no-external-antenna black box one. It does just
fine that way. No DHCP, and just set to the default gateway for that
network segment.

   Is this the area that I am screwed up on?
 Setup
   Advanced Routing
   Operating Mode = Routing.
   Dynamic Routing = Disabled(?)





  

  


  

  
  
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:30 -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
  
I have a number Linksys WRT54Gs router / WiFi units.
   Would like to turn off the DHCP, hence turning these boxes into a 
switch / access point for the network.   From what I understand you can 
not do that with the standard firmware , but it is possible with Tomato.
   Am I on the right track?


  


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[nlug] Re: Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

[Perkins, Jerry]

Michael Chaney wrote:
> dd-wrt gives you a lot more control over the ports, as does openwrt.
>
> >From a hardware perspective, the wrt54g has a single ethernet port
> behind a tagging switch.  Packets are tagged with the port # when they
> come in, and the kernel has the ability to then create virtual
> interfaces based on the tagging.  From a hardware standpoint, there's
> nothing special about the WAN port.
>
> With openwrt, you can do anything with the hardware.
>   
   I have already bricked a dd-wrt due to a user trying to do an 
improper reset, even after my instructions.   If I can do it with the 
default fireware, the better for right now.   Have to get this up and 
running now.

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[nlug] Re: Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

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Jim Peterson wrote:

  
  
Ours is set to Gateway mode and dynamic routing is off.

   When I set: [Setup] > [Advanced Routing] > [Operating Mode] =
Gateway, the [Dynamic Routing] is removed.
   And then I can not connect.




On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:04 -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
   Jim Peterson wrote: 
 We have a WRT54G2, the no-external-antenna
black box one. It does just fine that way. No DHCP, and just set to the
default gateway for that network segment.

   Is this the area that I am screwed up on?
Setup
   Advanced Routing
   Operating Mode = Routing.
   Dynamic Routing = Disabled(?)





  

  




  

  
  
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:30 -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
  
I have a number Linksys WRT54Gs router / WiFi units.
   Would like to turn off the DHCP, hence turning these boxes into a 
switch / access point for the network.   From what I understand you can 
not do that with the standard firmware , but it is possible with Tomato.
   Am I on the right track?



  


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[nlug] Re: Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

[Perkins, Jerry]

Jim Peterson wrote:

  
  
Is this router directly connected to an Internet feed or behind a cable
or DSL modem? 

   Connected into the router.
   BUT, I think I have just found the answer.   After testing and
writeup, I will report.   (Very simple).



  

  



  

  
  
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:09 -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
   Jim Peterson wrote: 
 Ours is set to Gateway mode and dynamic
routing is off.

   When I set: [Setup] > [Advanced Routing] > [Operating Mode] =
Gateway, the [Dynamic Routing] is removed.
   And then I can not connect.



 
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:04 -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
   Jim Peterson wrote: 
 We have a WRT54G2, the
no-external-antenna black box one. It does just fine that way. No DHCP,
and just set to the default gateway for that network segment.

   Is this the area that I am screwed up on?
Setup
   Advanced Routing
   Operating Mode = Routing.
   Dynamic Routing = Disabled(?)






  

  





  

  
  
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:30 -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
  
I have a number Linksys WRT54Gs router / WiFi units.
   Would like to turn off the DHCP, hence turning these boxes into a 
switch / access point for the network.   From what I understand you can 
not do that with the standard firmware , but it is possible with Tomato.
   Am I on the right track?




  


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[nlug] Re: Linksys WRT54G into switch / WiFi access point

[Perkins, Jerry]

   My notes on converting Linksys WRT54G into switch / wireless unit, 
Some of this is probably not needed.

 Add unit into your router as a static IP Address.   MAC number on bottom of unit.
 Plugin 12v only.
 Reset: Three seconds on reset.
 Access: LAN port #1(?) 192.168.1.1, User empty, Password admin.
 Wireless:
   Basic Wireless Settings:
 Wireless Network Mode = Mixed
 Wireless Network Name  (SSID) = JoeBlow
 Wireless Channel: = 
 Wireless SSID Broadcast: = Enable
   Wireless Security:  (If OSLA)
 Security Mode: = 
   Configure if used.
 Security
 Firewall
   Turn off everything you can.
 VPN
   IPSec Pass Through = Enable
   PPTP Pass Through = Enable
   L2TP Pass Through = Enable
 Administration:
 Management:
   Local Area Access:  Set password
   Remote Router Access: Enable, port 8080
   Access Server = HTTP
   Wireless Access web = Enable  (Probably will not work anyway)
   Remote management = Enable
 Setup
   Basic Setup
 Internet setup:
   Internet Configuration Type = Static
   Internet IP Addresss = 192.168.xxx.xxx  The new static address.
   Subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
   Gateway = 192.168.xxx.xxx
   Router Name = wifi-
   Host (Device) Name = wifi-
 Network Setup:
   Local IP Address = 192.168.xxx.xxx  Set to address that will never be used from main router.
   SAVE - RECONNECT browser access using above IP Address.
   DHCP Server = Disable
 Time Setting:  Central  (Not needed?)
   Advanced Routing
   Operating Mode = Routing.
   Dynamic Routing = Disabled
 SAVE
 Connect WAN side to Port #1.
 Pull / insert 12v and test.

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[nlug] HP Laser Jet 5 repair

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 From a friend:
   "I need to get a HP laserjet 5 repaired.  Who do you suggest?"

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Re: [nlug] Recycling

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   They charge $5 per CRT.


Kevin Wurm wrote:
> Advanced Technologies
> 901 2nd Avenue South
> Nashville‎ TN
> United States
> (615)259-2171
>
> Takes computer equipment for recycle. They have at times charged for  
> monitors.
>
>
> Kevin Wurm
>
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:50 PM, JMJ  wrote:
>
>   
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Is there still a place near 3rd and Lindsley that accepts old computer
>> gear for recycling?
>>
>> I have a couple of old cases (PII/PIII vintage), a few old broken
>> laptops (thinkpads), and a few small hard drives to get rid of.
>> Probably more as I dig through the pile.
>>
>> JMJ
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Re: [nlug] Home Content-Filtering Firewalls

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Gibson Prichard wrote:
> For years I have used IPCop at home as a content-filtering firewall,
> ... So, I thought I would try
> another Linux firewall with a web GUI front end (to help my wife tune
> the filters when needed). ...
I have been using pfSense since last Summer at our Church.   IPCop 
was recommended, but through some research ended up with pfSense.   It 
uses Squid and SquidGuard as transparent filter.   No need to set a 
proxy.   I prefer Dansguardian, but pfSense does not run it.   Although 
you can configure pfSense to route traffic to a Dansguardian box, but 
that is a little complex.
pfSense does seem to be rock solid.   It runs on BSD, not Linux.   
The fire wall is solid, in fact a little to solid at times.

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Re: [nlug] Here it is

[Perkins, Jerry]

Greg Jones wrote:

  --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Don Delp  wrote:
  
  
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Curt
Lundgren 
wrote:


  If you do "!se" you'll execute the most recent command
  

that starts with the


  letters "se".  I find I use this more than
  

re-executing by number.


  Curt

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Perkins, Jerry 
  

wrote:


  
   Dave, this is even new to me, so I am also

  

sending it on to a couple


  
others.

Reuse your history

After some time learning and experimenting at the

  

command line, you'll


  
find that you want to go back and repeat a command

  

you executed at some


  
point during the past. Luckily, Unix (and Cygwin)

  

track every single command


  
you ever type in a file called .history. Type the

  

history command to see the


  
last 100 commands you ran, which will be numbered,

  

like this:


  
penel...@scully ~
$ history
    
   82  echo gift-ideas.txt
   83  grep Mom gift-ideas.txt
   84  man grep
   85  ls | grep .txt
   86  ls
   87  ls | grep todo
   88  ls | grep .txt
   89  ls >>

  

file-listing.txt


  
   90  cat file-listing.txt
   91  history


Now, if you want to redo command number 87, let's

  

say, you don't have to


  
retype it. The "bang" (exclamation point) and the

  

command number will get


  
the job done. Just type !87 at the prompt, hit

  

enter, and - in my case - ls


  
| grep todo - will be re-executed.

Use grep to pick out the command of interest from

  

your history. For


  
example, to see all the ls recipes you've used in

  

the past, grep your


  
history for ls, like so:

penel...@scully ~
$ history | grep ls
    11  ls
    13  ls
    14  cls
    20  ls
    21  ls
    27  ls
    46  man ls
    47  ls -l
    48  ls
    49  man ls
    50  ls -lh
    51  ls
    ...


Neat, huh?

  

I find myself using !! frequently.  It calls the most
recent command.
My most common use is after running a command and getting
an error
that only root can do that.
sudo !!

Not only is it easier than (up arrow) (home) sudo, but
visually it
looks like the computer correctly interprets your
exasperation.  ;)

  
  

I wanted to add to the FYI of neat history tricks. In BASH you can type Ctrl+r to do a search on a command. If you type Ctrl+r and then type ssh it will show the last ssh command you entered. If that isn't the one you want simply hit Ctrl+r again and it will jump to the next one. So on and so on until you find the one you want to use. It goes from newest to oldest. Then just hit enter when you find the command and you are in business. 

Another cool aspect of this search is if you want to do a variation on a previous command. Hit Ctrl+r, type and search for the command and once you find the one you want to alter hit Esc. This will drop you to a prompt with that command on the line and you can edit it. This is useful for really long commands.

I love all these different short cuts. Thanks for posting.

Greg  
  

   All of those above were new to me.   This is great.  
   My brother-in-law sent me a link that has all of this in detail,
plus.
 
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/08/15-examples-to-master-linux-command-line-history/

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Re: [nlug] Latest recommendations for open source accounting?

[Perkins, Jerry]

Kevin Eldridge wrote:

  I remember Jerry Perkins giving a presentation on GnuCash. I believe it has a lot of accounting functionality, if I remember correctly. I could be mistaken about the features of the application. Perhaps he will chime in here on his thoughts about how he uses it. I believe he manages his personal and I think the Church's books.

Kevin E.
  


    Sorry about the delay in getting back about GnuCash.    But my
priority was to sit on the patio and watch the clear Blue water of the
Atlantic and walk around town (being Key West).

    Two years now and I have been very happy with GnuCash.   But I do
not keep the Church's books.   My previous software was Quicken.    So
here are some points relative to Quicken:
    Much faster.
    Harder to "Cheat" the system, which is really good.
    Not as pretty.
    Data entry is a little faster.
    Charts are not as good.
    Is not as intuitive.   (Which I wish they would work on)
    Bottom Line:   Would take (which I have) GnuCash over Quicken.

    From what I understand, GnuCash was not originally written for
business.   But they have added that functionality over the years.



  
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-Original Message-
From: Chris McQuistion 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:24:52 
To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [nlug] Latest recommendations for open source accounting?

For what it's worth I think there is a web based version of quicken/ 
quickbooks. That's platform agnostic.

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Dave Manginelli   
wrote:

  
  
I'm considering dumping QuickBooks for open source accounting software
again, like I've done every year for the past 10.  I know
SQLLedger/SMBLedger used to be the favorite but I never warmed up to  
the
web-based user interface.  (Web-based isn't inherently bad, but
SQLLedger's looked cumbersome to me.)

Anyway, January is more than half-way over and if I'm gonna change I
need to do it soon.

Any suggestions?  (Howard, were you pushing XTuple's Postbooks?)

Thanks.


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Re: [nlug] [Query] Setting up web-server + SMTP server on Linux

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Ankit A wrote:
I am a newbie to Linux and currently using Fedora 10. I used to work 
on WAMP for php/mysql applications on windows. Can anyone give me idea 
on how to setup a similar server on Linux ? I guess XAMPP will workout 
but how to do that and is there any other alternative ?
   First check if Apache is already installed and running.   It may be. 
 With your browser go to http://127.0.0.1 .   If you get a message like 
"It Works", it is installed and running.
   If not, you need to install Apache with your package manager.  Being 
a Debian user I am not familiar with Fedora's package manager.
   You will then need to do a little configuring of Apache to get it to 
read the files where you are storing them.   What may be a little help 
are my notes that I used to set up our Church network Apache, 
http://oursaviorlcms.net/mediawiki/index.php/Server_Packages#Apache2 .   
I locate all my web files in /srv/www, not the common /var/www.


  As for the other parts, Perl, PHP, and MySQL, just use your package 
manager to install and every thing should be running.  MySQL may take a 
little work, i.e. setting up the first user and password.  Generally the 
MySQL super user is called root, which is really separate from the 
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Re: [nlug] [Query] Setting up web-server + SMTP server on Linux

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Ankit A wrote:
Also, somebody told me that setting up a Mail (SMTP) server on Linux 
is much more easy than on windows. Can anyone give me idea how to do 
that ?
  I checked what the default mail server was for Fedora.   It is not 
Exim, which Debian uses, so I can not be of any help.   Although I did 
see these instructions for fedora, 
http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Configuring_a_Fedora_Linux_Email_Server 
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[nlug] Munin Weather Plugin

[Perkins, Jerry]

  Here is the Temperature / Dew Point / Wind plug-in for Munin ( 
http://munin-monitoring.org/ ) that I referred to at last

Tuesdays meeting.   This can be seen at  http://jperkins.net/


   Plug in is both attached and below in in text.

 


   Copy weather_temp_ into /usr/share/munin/plugins/weather_temp_
   Create link for /usr/share/munin/plugins/weather_temp_
 to /etc/munin/plugins/weather_temp_
   Rename /etc/munin/plugins/weather_temp_ to weather_temp_KBNA
   $ sudo munin-run weather_temp_
   $ sudo /etc/init.d/munin-node restart


  Recommend that you change the Munin cron schedule to run two minutes 
later.  Currently runs every five minutes starting at the top of the hour.
It seems that the National Weather Service updates their file at the that 
time.



  FYI:  This plug in goes out and downloads a text file from the National Weather Service.   
Here is what was downloaded at 5:08 PM today:


NASHVILLE INTERNATIONAL  AIRPORT, TN, United States (KBNA) 36-07N 086-41W 210M
May 13, 2010 - 05:53 PM EDT / 2010.05.13 2153 UTC
Wind: from the S (190 degrees) at 13 MPH (11 KT) gusting to 18 MPH (16 KT):0
Visibility: 10 mile(s):0
Sky conditions: mostly cloudy
Temperature: 84.0 F (28.9 C)
Dew Point: 64.9 F (18.3 C)
Relative Humidity: 52%
Pressure (altimeter): 30.13 in. Hg (1020 hPa)
ob: KBNA 132153Z 19011G16KT 10SM FEW040 BKN200 29/18 A3013 RMK AO2 SLP196 
T02890183
cycle: 22



weather_temp_  script

#!/usr/bin/env python
"""
munin US NOAA weather plugin (http://weather.noaa.gov)

Draws temperature/dew point in C.
Copy/link file as 'weather_temp_CODE', like: weather_temp_LOWW for Austria, 
Vienna.

Get the code by going to http://weather.noaa.gov, selecting your
location, and copying the code from the address bar of your browser; should
be something like CODE.html.

Linux users might need to adjust the shebang.
"""

import sys
import urllib
import re

url = 'http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/decoded/%s.TXT'

"""
Sample Wind
Wind: Calm:0
Wind: Variable at 5 MPH (4 KT):0
Wind: from the SW (220 degrees) at 10 MPH (9 KT):0
Wind: from the SW (220 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) (direction variable):0
Wind: from the S (170 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT) gusting to 17 MPH (15 KT):0
Wind: from the WNW (290 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) gusting to 18 MPH (16 KT) 
(direction variable):0
"""

re_TESTCALM = re.compile('Wind: (-?\D)')
re_TESTNORM = re.compile('Wind: from the .* \(.* degrees\) at .* MPH \(.* 
KT\)(-?\D)')
re_TESTGUST = re.compile('Wind: from the .* \(.* degrees\) at .* MPH \(.* KT\) 
(-?\D)')
re_VARIABLE = re.compile('Wind: Variable at (-?\d+)')
re_GUST = re.compile('Wind: from the .* \(.* degrees\) at .* MPH \(.* KT\) 
gusting to (-?\d+)')
re_MPH = re.compile('Wind: from the .* \(.* degrees\) at (-?\d+)')
re_F = re.compile('Temperature: (-?\d+\.?\d?) F .*\)')
re_DewF = re.compile('Dew Point: (-?\d+\.?\d?) F .*\)')

code = sys.argv[0][(sys.argv[0].rfind('_')+1):]

if code == None: sys.exit(1)

if len(sys.argv) == 2 and sys.argv[1] == "autoconf":
print "yes"

elif len(sys.argv) == 2 and sys.argv[1] == "config":
print 'graph_title Temp. Wind and Dew Point at code %s' % code
print 'graph_vlabel Temp. Wind and Dew Point in F'

print 'graph_category Weather'

print 'wind.label Wind'
print 'temperature.label Temperature'
print 'dewpoint.label Dew Point'

print 'graph_args --base 1000 -l 0'

else:

u = urllib.urlopen(url % code)
txt = u.read()
u.close()

TESTCALM = re_TESTCALM.findall(txt)[0]

if ( TESTCALM == "C" ):
MPH = "1.0"
if ( TESTCALM == "V" ):
MPH = re_VARIABLE.findall(txt)[0]
if ( TESTCALM == "f" ):
MPH = re_MPH.findall(txt)[0]
TESTNORM = re_TESTNORM.findall(txt)[0]
if ( TESTNORM <> ":" ):
TESTGUST = re_TESTGUST.findall(txt)[0]
if ( TESTGUST == "g" ):
MPH = re_GUST.findall(txt)[0]

F = re_F.findall(txt)[0]
DewF = re_DewF.findall(txt)[0]

print 'wind.value %s' % MPH
print 'temperature.value %s' % F
print 'dewpoint.value %s' % DewF


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#!/usr/bin/env python
"""
munin US NOAA weather plugin (http://weather.noaa.gov)

Draws temperature/dew point in C.
Copy/link file as 'weather_temp_CODE', like: weather_temp_LOWW for Austria, 
Vienna.

Get the code by going to http://weather.noaa.gov, selecting your
location, and copying the code from the address bar of your browser; should
be something like CODE.html.

Linux users might need to adjust the shebang.
"""

import sys
import urllib
import re

url = 'http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/decoded/%s.TXT'

"""
Sample Wind
Wind: Calm:0
Wind: Variab

[nlug] What is?

[Perkins, Jerry]

Note this size = 7.7 x 7.7 x 1.4-inches

2.4-GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor

2GB of RAM

320GB hard disk

burn/read DVDs and CDs

3 pounds

USB 2.0 ports and a FireWire 800 port

Wi-Fi built in (including 802.11n)

Bluetooth

HDMI port

http://www.pcworld.com/article/198850/new_mac_mini_guns_for_your_living_room.html?tk=hp_blg

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Re: [nlug] What is?

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Andrew Farnsworth wrote:
Yes, I really want one of these.  I have an 18 month old Mac Mini and 
have been very happy with it.  I'm looking at the "Server" version for 
$999.  I haven''t used the optical drive in a year so I am pretty 
happy going for the model that has the two hard drives.  I am also 
happy running Mac OSX and being able to hang Firewire drives off it is 
a nice feature, especially since I have several Firewire drives already.


Andy
  Speaking for the wife who has been running a Mac Mini for about 3 
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Re: [nlug] Distro

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Dave Tomlin wrote:

So what distro are you guys using?  It seems that most of you are
using Ubuntu.  I was an Ubuntu fan thru 9.04, but am now using Fedora
13.  So far its been great.
  Debian.   Very stable.   Tried Ubuntu on my laptop, but found little 
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Re: [nlug] su vs sudo, was "Distro"

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Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:

IIUC, sudo is intended to provide limited and temporary root access to
specific functions that are configurable by the actual root account,



sudo can be setup to run any program as any user not just as root.

  

while su is not configurable and provides 100% root access.  Is that
basically correct?

I can see the utility of sudo, but I'd rather just use su and suffer
the consequences of screwing up. (a.k.a. "learn something while fixing
a screwup.")



from a security perspective, having to run su - forces the user to
know another password (the root password). On most distributions
/etc/pam.d/su can be setup to only allow users in the wheel group to
"su -", and again then only if they have the root password (pam.d/su
can also be setup to su - without a password I think).

  Yes you can set up sudo without asking a password.

  Sudo is also nice to give other users limited access, i.e. I have one 
user who has access to controlling users.


  Apple OS-X uses sudo under the hood.  By default sets up the original 
user with sudo root privileges, but does ask the password.


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Re: [nlug] Sharing Linux Files with Windows

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Paul Boniol wrote:
My first thought was to try setting up a Linux Samba share and only 
make it available over SSH for security.


  Samba requires two ports, which SSH can not handle.

  What about mounting a Samba share via ipsec?

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Re: [nlug] OT: clock repair shop?

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Drew wrote:
Michael, there used to be a clock shop in Pegram, TN. It was right on 
70. I honestly don't know if it's still there or not, it's been 
several years since I actually looked for it.

 It has been closed for a number of years.

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Re: [nlug] Comcast internet problems?

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Steven S. Critchfield wrote:

Of course for fun comcast troubles. 

BTW, been thinking about the whole swap to AT&T, but haven't made the
leap just yet.
  
  Warning:   With AT&T you will NOT be able to have those "fun Comcast 
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Re: [nlug] Re: Comcast internet problems?

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kj37075 wrote:

< snip >
As for monopolies, this is just an example showing how most monopolies
exist because some level of government interferes with the free
market.

  And in this case, the Federal government.
  The Federal government gets that power under the 28th amendment.

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Re: [nlug] Secondary for Email

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Jack Coats wrote:
My home domain, coats.org  , sometimes has email 
returned that is sent to us

and the sender gets a 'non-deliverable' message.

One option is to find a secondary email server.  Does anyone around 
here do

email secondaries cheap or free?

Overall, I like my service, but this is bugging my wife so it becomes 
a priority for a solution for me!


><> ... Jack
Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23


  Cheap?   If you want, I can set you up an account on my own domain, 
jperkins.us.   Just write me at je...@jperkins.us.


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Re: [nlug] Ubuntu for Server

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Dave Tomlin wrote:

Is anyone using Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 for production servers.  Seems
like most say to go with CentOS, but I'm partial to .deb and the
abundance of packages for Ubuntu.  Thanks.
  Tried Ubuntu.   Nothing like Debian for the server.   Also use it on 
the laptop and desktop.  Never down.


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[nlug] MAC OS compatibility layer for Linux like wine?

[Perkins, Jerry]

The following is a reprint of a couple of mails that were on 
alt.os.linux.debian newsgroup yesterday and today.   I will not reprint 
all of the mailings, but the two replies that are interesting.   Here is 
the original mailing that started the discussion:


On Tuesday 07 December 2010 16:38 in alt.os.linux.debian, somebody
identifying as Lars Uffmann, a...@nurfuerspam.de wrote...

(F'Up set)

This is somewhat off-topic here (in both NGs, sorry for X-Post), but I 
wanted to know whether anyone knows about a project of a MAC OS 
compatibility layer for Linux, or maybe an emulator project that is 
up-to-date (MAC OS X).


Considering MAC OS is a custom-tailored Linux (if I got that right), it 
should be easier than the wine project?


And is this possible at all with the copyrights on MAC OS X? I mean - is 
there anything different about MAC OS X that would legally prevent a 
similar approach to wine?


Thanks for any info!

  Lars

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Re: [nlug] MAC OS compatibility layer for Linux like wine?

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On Tuesday 07 December 2010 22:49 in alt.os.linux.debian, somebody
identifying as John F Morse, j...@example.invalid wrote...


Lars Uffmann wrote:


> Aragorn wrote:
  

>> As I see it, the best chances at implementing Wine itself on OS X would
>> be to have at least X.Org installed on it first.


>
> Admitted, I phrased my post poorly, but the idea was not to get wine
> to run on OS X, I was hoping for something *like* wine, but
> "emulating" OS X on Linux..
>
> Let's see if someone knows anything... Though I guess FreeBSD makes it
> a bit different... Maybe I could run a virtual machine with some
> compatible FreeBSD version (if such a thing exists...)
>
> Best Regards,
>
>   Lars
  


It is not actually FreeBSD, but is a Unix operating system, based on the
NeXTSTEP operating system and the Mach kernel which Apple acquired after
purchasing NeXT Computer, with its CEO Steve Jobs returning to Apple at
this time. Mac OS X also makes use of the BSD code base.

Above from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS#Mac_OS_X

Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel. Certain parts from FreeBSD's and
NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in NeXTSTEP, the core
of Mac OS X. NeXTSTEP was the object-oriented operating system developed
by Steve Jobs' company NeXT after he left Apple in 1985. While Jobs was
away from Apple, Apple tried to create a "next-generation" OS through
the Taligent, Copland and Gershwin projects, with little success.

Eventually, NeXT's OS, then called OPENSTEP, was selected to be the
basis for Apple's next OS, and Apple purchased NeXT outright. Steve Jobs
returned to Apple as interim CEO, and later became CEO, shepherding the
transformation of the programmer-friendly OPENSTEP into a system that
would be adopted by Apple's primary market of home users and creative
professionals. The project was first known as Rhapsody and was later
renamed to Mac OS X.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#History

Mac OS X's core is a POSIX compliant operating system (OS) built on top
of the XNU kernel, with standard Unix facilities available from the
command line interface. Apple has released this family of software as a
free and open source operating system named Darwin. On top of Darwin,
Apple layered a number of components, including the Aqua interface and
the Finder, to complete the GUI-based operating system which is Mac OS X.

^Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#Description

^Don't worry about OS-X being a "foreign language." It is POSIX, like
most of Linux, therefore you should have little trouble speaking to it.
Same goes for any BSD and Solaris.

^But the question is, why would you want to run OS-X on Linux? Linux has
so much more to offer. It makes more sense to run Linux on a Mac. Or
even better, on a standard Intel or AMD PC.

^I have Mac OS 10.3.9 on an iMac, plus 12 other older Macs with OS 9.1
and earlier. Years of experience in MacWhackerVille. I wouldn't
recommend Apple junk to anybody.



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Re: [nlug] MAC OS compatibility layer for Linux like wine?

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On Tuesday 07 December 2010 16:38 in alt.os.linux.debian, somebody
identifying as Aragorn, arag...@chatfactory.invalid wrote...


> Aragorn wrote:
>
  

>> As I see it, the best chances at implementing Wine itself on OS X
>> would be to have at least X.Org installed on it first.

> 
> Admitted, I phrased my post poorly, but the idea was not to get wine

> to run on OS X, I was hoping for something *like* wine, but
> "emulating" OS X on Linux..
  


I must apologize myself.  It would appear that I hadn't read your post
correctly.  ;-) 


> Let's see if someone knows anything... Though I guess FreeBSD makes it
> a bit different... Maybe I could run a virtual machine with some
> compatible FreeBSD version (if such a thing exists...)
  


Well, I think that for such a set-up, you would first have to install
either Xen - which is a bare metal hypervisor and would thus run
your "host" GNU/Linux system as a virtual machine itself - or use
VMWare in your host GNU/Linux system, and then perhaps install
a "hackintosh" version of OS X [1], but I'm pretty sure the latter
would be illegal, so it would not be fair to advise you to go that way. 
I'm simply mentioning it from the technical point of view.


FreeBSD in itself is also not to be confused with OS X.  Like GNU/Linux,
FreeBSD is a Free & Open Source Software UNIX-family operating system,
but there are quite a few differences.  FreeBSD proper uses a
microkernel (called Mach) and uses a different init system, based upon
that of the proprietary BSD Unix versions, whereas GNU/Linux has
elements of both BSD and AT&T design in it, and uses the AT&T
Unix-style init sequence.

Other than that, FreeBSD is just like GNU/Linux and other UNIX/POSIX
systems.  It uses a commandline shell - Bourne Shell, Korn Shell, C
Shell, Z shell, take your pick  ;-)  - and it can run an X11
implementation such as X.Org, with a window manager or desktop
environment of your choice - e.g. fvwm, KDE, Gnome with Compiz,
Enlightenment, XFCE, IceWM, et al.

OS X is based upon FreeBSD, but with some modifications.  For starters,
OS X has a compound kernel, comprised of FreeBSD's Mach microkernel
with a proprietary add-on called XNU, developed by Apple.  And although
OS X can run an X11 implementation just fine, it natively uses an
Apple-designed proprietary graphical user interface, which is not
compatible with the X11 protocol.  This graphical user interface is
however essential to the functioning of Apple-specific software, and so
this is the main issue with regard to having an Apple ABI/API on
GNU/Linux or other UNIX systems.

OS X itself also boots differently from GNU/Linux or FreeBSD, because it
was specifically designed to be used on Apple hardware, and those are
machines with an EFI, rather than a legacy BIOS.  There is a big
difference there, because EFI switches the x86 processor into protected
mode before any operating system is loaded, whereas a legacy x86 BIOS
runs in the processor's real mode - or, if needed, in "unreal" mode -
and it is the operating system's kernel loader [2] which has to switch
the processor into protected mode.  


A machine with a legacy BIOS still basically boots the same way it would
under DOS - which is also the way DOS itself actually loads
applications into memory, i.e. it loads them and then passes control of
the machine to the application - whereas on a machine with an EFI
implementation, the bootloader becomes part of the EFI firmware.  This
is thus one of the, again, illegal modifications to OS X in the
Hackintosh version, i.e. it had to be adapted to booting on a machine
with a legacy BIOS.

To return to the graphical environment, as I wrote in my initial reply,
an OS 9 implementation on top of GNU/Linux did exist at the time, but
this was not Free Software, and OS 9 is of course quite a different
thing from OS X.  (OS X contains a compatibility layer for OS 9
applications, because they wouldn't be able to work in OS X's native
environment.)


[1] The "Hackintosh" is the nickname given to a version of OS X that
   has been (illegally) modified to run on non-Apple hardware with
   an Intel processor.  It deserves to be noted that such a
   "hacked OS X" will _only_ run on machines with an Intel x86
   processor, and _not_ on any machines with AMD x86 processors.

[2] Not the bootloader, but the kernel loader.  In Linux, this is a
   section of real mode code which is part of the kernel image in
   "/boot".  The bootloader loads the kernel image into memory and
   passes control of the machine to it.  The kernel loader - also
   called "kernel bootstrap code" - then sets up the pagetables,
   moves the boot parameters to a safe location where the actual
   kernel can retrieve them after the switch to protected mode,
   and then it initializes protected mode and decompresses the
   actual runtime kernel image, after which the real mode kernel
   bootstrapping code is removed from memory.  In Linux on x86,
   the bootstrapping code is part of the kern

Re: [nlug] [OT] cell phone advice

[Perkins, Jerry]

Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:

I'm finding it hilarious! This is a *phone* we're talking about! Am I
the only one left that uses a phone for...

... wait for it...

MAKING PHONE CALLS!^#^*

  No you are not.   And there are a lot more of us out there.

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Re: [nlug] HTML5 info

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Andrew Farnsworth wrote:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Greg Donald  wrote:
  

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:


http://diveintohtml5.org/
  

Don't forget the CSS3:

http://google.com/search?q=css3



CSS? What's CSS?  I do all my layout with tables!
  Tables have been out for a long time.  
  I started to play with HTML5 a few weeks ago.   It is great.   I just 
converted my home page to HTML5 a few days ago.   Did not take me long 
from XHTML.   It is much cleaner with CSS3.   ( http://jperkins.us/ )


Here is a little section of it:

CSS3 partial page:

article{ margin: 5px 5px 5px 160px; }
   article>section{ border: 1px solid #00; margin: 0px; padding: 8px; }
   section h2 { color: #CE4886; font-size: 150%; margin: 5px 0px 
0px 0px; }
   section h3 {color: #CE4886; font-size: 110%; margin: 7px 0px 0px 
20px; text-align: left; }
   section p {font-size: 80%; margin: 7px 0px 0px 30px; 
text-indent: 1.25em;}

aside{ float: left; height: 100%; margin: 10px 0px 0px 5px;  width:150px; }
   aside h2 { background-color:#EE; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px 
1px 0px 5px;

   padding: 0px 0px 2px 0px; }
   aside p { background-color:#EE; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 1px 
0px 5px;

   padding: 0px 0px 7px 20px; text-indent: -10px; }

The home page, side bar and one section:

   
   Page Sections
   Search jperkins.us
   Woodworking Projects
   Guest Book
   Humor
   Computer
   Internet
   Genealogy
   Commentary
   Weather
   
   Site News
   Apr. '11: Updating my web site to the new HTML standard, 
HTML5.
   The home page is the first. The look will completely 
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Re: [nlug] [OT] Old apartment building means old copper lines.

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JMJ wrote:
I'm finally considering getting a home broadband internet connection 
of some sort.


I could probably buy DSL, then cancel it if the lines don't allow it 
to function well. but I'd rather avoid the hassle.


Thanks for any input!
  Over the last 10 years we have been very happy with DSL at our church 
and school.  Very reliable.   Only twice have had to call for help and 
they were very good.
  Have U verse at home and that is also very reliable.   Before U verse 
I had Comcast.   The way they operate, they may not be in business any more.


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the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been 
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Re: [nlug] Egads!

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Jack Coats wrote:

Time for the next Scopes type of trial to come from TN... Bummer.

  
  Oh you mean that publicity stunt that three towns people cooked up.   
Wow did everyone fall for it hook, line and sinker.  
  Jack, looks like you still think that it was for real.


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Patrick Henry's famous "bequest" of Christianity in his will:

 "I have now disposed of all my property to my family. There 
  is one thing more I wish I could give them, and that is the 
  Christian Religion. If they had that and I had not given them 
  one shilling they would have been rich; and if they had not 
  that and I had given them all the world, they would be poor.



Unknown author for the periodical The Virginian 
in 1956.  Commenting on Patrick Henry's famous 
"bequest" of Christianity in his will:


 "There is an insidious campaign of false propaganda 
  being waged today, to the effect that our country is 
  not a Christian country but a religious one-that it was 
  not founded on Christianity but on freedom of religion."


 "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often 
  that this great nation was founded not by 'religionists'
  but by Christians-not on religion but on the Gospel of 
  Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other 
  faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity and 
  freedom of worship here."


 "In the spoken and written words of our noble 
  founders and forefathers, we find symbolic expressions 
  of their Christian faith. The above quotation from 
  the will of Patrick Henry is a notable example."


Read more: 


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Patrick_Henry_say_It_cannot_be_emphasized_too_strongly_or_too_often_that_this_great_nation_was_founded_not_by_religionists_but_by_Christians_not_on_religions_but_on_the_gospel_of_Jesus_Christ

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Re: [nlug] Updating the NLUG wiki

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On 08/23/2011 05:43 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
I have a userID and password for the NLUG web site/wiki, but I can't 
figure out how to update a page.
If someone has a cluex4 they are willing to share with me, please send 
me the hint off-list.


   I replied off-list to Jack.   Thought that I would help.   But found 
that things have changed and I also have no clue on how to edit the NLUG 
wiki.

   So now both Jack and I are looking for help.   Sorry Jack.

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Re: [nlug] Updating the NLUG wiki

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On 08/24/2011 03:52 PM, Chris McQuistion wrote:
So once you're logged in, you should see an "Edit", "Info", and "Talk" 
icon at the top of each page next to the title (the front page is 
titled "Front Page" for instance.)


Are you seeing that?  If so, you click on "Edit" and that takes you to 
an edit window where you can make your changes and click "Preview" or 
"Save Changes" when you're done.


That is what I though should happen.   But it does not.   "Info", 
and "Talk" icon are at the top, but no "Edit" icon.


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Re: [nlug] [OT] Computer recommendations for family.

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On 09/20/2011 02:15 PM, Chris McQuistion wrote:
If I were thinking of a getting a computer from Mom/Grandma, I would 
seriously consider a Mac.


Chris


   Friend of out got his father a Mac.   He is 92.   He loves it.   Now 
he are also planing on getting a Mac when the time comes.


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Re: [nlug] Re: Computer recommendations for family.

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On 09/25/2011 09:49 PM, Drew wrote:


... i did suggest a Mac, but as older people frequently will, he said 
he and his wife were use to the way Windows works and didn't want to 
learn something new.




   I take offense to that statement.I find a LOT of young people 
are that way.


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Re: [nlug] What Linux program is like wire tap?

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On 12/17/2011 08:37 AM, df9 wrote:

On the Mac they have a program called Wire Tap that lets the user
record whatever they want as it passes or feeds thru. Is there a
program in Linux or can you use the terminal to record vidio?

   

   Capture screen by pressing Print Screen on key board

   Capture video, yes.  And I have done it, but can not remember what I 
used.   This may help, 
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/best-screen-capture-software-linux-t3720.html   
Try Google with "Linux screen video capture".


   Capture audio, yes.

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Re: [nlug] Linux Remote Desktop

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On 03/22/2012 11:34 PM, Paul Boniol wrote:
I have been using a version of VNC over a VPN for a while.  Results 
have been very mixed.  Things will be working perfect, and then the 
next any keystroke is repeated several times (generally when anyone is 
watching Netflix, YouTube, etc.).  I changed some settings to reduce 
its network traffic and it is working better but still has the same 
issues... I was wondering what other people out there use to get to a 
Linux desktop remotely.


I saw a recommendation for nxclient recently (which I am investigating 
now).  Just wondering what others are using these days.


Paul Boniol


   I generally only use one app at a time, so SSH with X forwarding 
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Re: [nlug] 2013 Cadillac XTS comes with Linux

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On 05/31/2012 11:36 PM, Russ Crawford wrote:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/2013-cadillac-xts/


   Very impressive.   But did not see if it comes with heads up display.

   Looks like it has taken a big jump ahead of everyone else.But 
then the American auto industry has a long history of that in 
electronics.   Great to see Corvette ZR1's Magnetic Ride Control used.


Just found it, does have a color heads up display.

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Re: [nlug] Tin-Foil-Hat-Dept: One more reason to run NOT-M$

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On 06/17/2012 12:20 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Chris McQuistion
  wrote:
   

I've read ~very~ similar stories with claims that the NSA/FBI/etc has people
working on the Linux kernel or other major open-source projects.
 

Well, in fact, that part is true.  There's nothing sinister about it,
though; they're working to safeguard the nation's infrastructure, by
ensuring that the code doesn't contain any accidental security holes.
Intentional security holes are much more difficult to create within
active open source projects; someone will find it and broadcast its
existence.
   


   I agree.   I would really expect that the NSA and Microsoft have a 
close working relationship.

   As for moles, that is the figment of the author, Barence.


The problem with conspiracy theories is the axiom about secrets:
three may keep a secret if two of them are dead.
   


  My view is:  The problem with conspiracy theories is that they 
are put together by people that do not have a clue.   Conspiracies by 
definition are secret.The only REAL conspiracy that I have stumbled 
on to (of any size) was the The Knights of the Golden Circle, very 
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Re: [nlug] Veeeeddddy Intahresting...

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On 06/22/2012 08:51 AM, Howard White wrote:

It was time to replace our trusty HP LaserJet 4P (going on 20 years old).


   Would suggest keeping the 4P, even if you get another.   Great 
printer.   I am currently running a 4L, also about 20 years old.


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Re: [nlug] Veeeeddddy Intahresting...

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On 06/23/2012 07:12 AM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote:
Sadly, this is the very reason that printer companies do everything 
they can to lock you into their supply chain for your consumables.  If 
you buy a printer from them and use it 20+ years they have no other 
way of making money from you.


   But you still made the choice.   Buyer beware.   But then one can 
always blame the government.


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Re: [nlug] meeting Tuesday, July 10

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On 07/03/2012 09:20 PM, Howard White wrote:
Every one be careful Independence Day.  Hope our Canadian listers had 
a good Canada Day on Sunday.


   Canada Day was on Monday, not Sunday.   It is on the 1st, unless the 
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[nlug] Raspberry Pi > BackupPC?

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   I have been looking to build a low wattage box to run only Backup 
on.   Have been looking at Raspberry Pi model B, but have not been able 
to confirm that it has enough memory.I did some checking on the two 
boxes that I have BackupPC running on and it seems to require about 70 K 
of memory.

   Does anyone have a clue if this might be a doable thing?

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Re: [nlug] Raspberry Pi > BackupPC?

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On 08/01/2012 10:38 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrot

BTW, there is nothing stopping you from running a swap partition for the PI 
either on the SD card, or via a USB or other network attached drive.
   


   Great idea.   I will be adding on an external USB drive which may 
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Re: [nlug] Raspberry Pi > BackupPC?

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On 08/06/2012 01:50 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:

On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 10:28:26AM -0500, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
   

I have been looking to build a low wattage box to run only Backup
on.   Have been looking at Raspberry Pi model B, but have not been
able to confirm that it has enough memory.I did some checking on
the two boxes that I have BackupPC running on and it seems to
require about 70 K of memory.
Does anyone have a clue if this might be a doable thing?
 

BackupPC_dump uses considerably more than 70k; my server at the house is
weighing in at 51m/39m for the parent/child dump processes;
BackupPC_trashClean is using roughly an additional 10m.  Of course some
of that will be shared between processes.  The nightly maintenance runs
are likely to require similar amounts.  pmap the processes while running
to get a better idea of utilization.
   


Thanks.   So far it looks like a go.   That leaves plenty of head room.
I just went through the manual again yesterday and did not see any 
notes about using a swap.

   Now to go ahead with the project and get the Raspberry Pi ordered.

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Re: [nlug] Raspberry Pi > BackupPC?

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On 08/06/2012 05:25 AM, Brian H. Ward wrote:


The ARM (and MIPSEL) distress are both second class citizen in the 
Debian world,  so you might not find packages for everything you want.




   There was a basic problem porting Debian to Raspberry Pi.   But this 
problem has been taken care of by the folks at Raspberry, creating a new 
distribution called Raspbian "wheezy" ( 
http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads ), which they do recommend.


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[nlug] House Inspection

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   I have a friend who wants to put together a house inspection 
database.   The old one he used was Microsoft's Access, which he does 
not have access to any more.

   I was thinking of using web access with MySQL and PHP(or other).
   One thing he is worried about is Internet access in the field.   But 
that could be covered with paper.


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Re: [nlug] Apache crashes every Sunday like a clockwork

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On 03/10/2013 08:18 PM, Toth, Csaba wrote:


Our lab's web server at Vandy crashes every Sunday at 7:41am exactly.


   Interesting, my Debian did the same thing about 5 years ago for a 
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Re: [nlug] Windows 8 SUCKS!!

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On 04/30/2013 03:25 PM, Howard White wrote:
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS CRAP!!!  Windows 8 sets a new standard for 
incomprehensible user interface and system obfuscation.  And I have 
customers tripping over themselves to get new Windows 8 systems.


   I did a search on Blekko for "Windows XX sucks".   Here are the 
results.   I don't think 8 has been out that long?


  XP =  8m
   Vista =  6m
 7 = 31m
 8 = 17m

   Looks like they are headed in the wrong direction.   No wonder their 
stock has sucked over the last 10 years.


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Re: [nlug] Nashville relocation questions

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On 05/11/2013 05:22 PM, Toth, Csaba wrote:

Nashville area and Tennessee is a super place to live!
   


Here are a few photos that I have shot in and on short trips:

Nashville & East Kentucky
http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=29

State Park, about 2 1/2 hours
http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=18

Eastern & Western Kentucky, Eastern Tennessee, all about 4 -  5 
hour drive.

http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=149

Natchez Trace, starts in Nashville, all shot withing 1 hour drive
http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=17

Spring in Nashville
http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=146

Panama City Beach, 8 hours South
http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=140

Smoky Mountains & North Georgia
http://jperkins.net/c/thumbnails.php?album=105

Smoky Mountains
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[nlug] Re: NLUG / databases / phpmySQL

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Reply to your e-mail bounced last week, trying again.



On 08/18/2013 06:41 AM, Michael Lyda wrote:

Hello Jerry,
Hope this email goes through, lost the contact info you gave me.  I'd 
like to talk to you more about the database app you showed me, the 
home appraisal app that you were connecting to through your home net 
connection.


Thank you
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[nlug] Re: NLUG / databases / phpmySQL

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On 08/18/2013 06:41 AM, Michael Lyda wrote:
Hope this email goes through, lost the contact info you gave me.  I'd 
like to talk to you more about the database app you showed me, the 
home appraisal app that you were connecting to through your home net 
connection.


   No problem, but is a house inspection app (boy do I hate that word 
app).   You can give me a call at 377-1225.   Take a look at it at 
http://jperkins.net/HI-Develop-0.55.00/Don't worry, you can't hurt 
it by messing with the data.


   Write me at je...@jperkins.us.

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[nlug] To Michael Lyda

[Perkins, Jerry]

   Tried to answer your e-mail of last a few times, but your address 
bounced.   Contact me again at Jerry at jperkins.us.


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Re: [nlug] To Michael Lyda

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On 08/27/2013 10:15 PM, Paul Tabolinsky wrote:

Try:
produ...@graceandtruth.net 
Paul T


   This one also bounced:

SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:  
SIZE=11176:
host graceandtruth.net [142.4.28.137]: 550 Access denied - Invalid HELO 
name (See RFC2821 4.1.1.1)



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Re: [nlug] Digest for nlug-talk@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic

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On 08/29/2013 02:25 PM, Russ Crawford wrote:

On 08/28/2013 06:43 PM, nlug-talk@googlegroups.com wrote:

  * To Michael Lyda <#group_thread_0> [2 Updates]

To Michael Lyda


I have received e-mails from Michael.

The address on those e-mail is:

ml...@helpwithmath.net


That address also rejects my e-mails.

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Re: [nlug] Digest for nlug-talk@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic

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On 08/30/2013 02:45 PM, Chris McQuistion wrote:

Jerry, could your email server be on a blacklist or something?

Worth checking...

http://mxtoolbox.com/

Chris



   Just checked, nothing Black Listed.But I did send a couple of 
e-mails through about a hour ago on the advice of Russ and they did not 
bounce.

   Looks like what ever the problem was is gone now.Thanks.

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Re: [nlug] Paging Jami Couch

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On 09/27/2013 09:45 PM, Howard White wrote:

Meeting presenters:

October 8 - Jami Couch
November 12 - Jerry Perkins
December 10 - Justin Elam
January 14 - Tilghman Lesher
February 11 - Wesley Duffee-Braun
March 11 - (available)
April 8 - (available)


   Thanks for posting the schedule Howard.

   I have run into a conflict for November 12.   Would be happy to 
switch with anyone, except for the dates of Oct. 8 & Feb 11.

   My subject will be "Experiences with HTML5, CSS3, PHP, & MySQL".

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Re: [nlug] Paging Jami Couch

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On 09/29/2013 11:23 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Perkins, Jerry  wrote:
   

On 09/27/2013 09:45 PM, Howard White wrote:

Meeting presenters:
October 8 - Jami Couch
November 12 - Jerry Perkins
December 10 - Justin Elam
January 14 - Tilghman Lesher
February 11 - Wesley Duffee-Braun
March 11 - (available)
April 8 - (available)


I have run into a conflict for November 12.   Would be happy to switch with 
anyone, except for the dates of Oct. 8&  Feb 11.
My subject will be "Experiences with HTML5, CSS3, PHP,&  MySQL".
 

Jerry, if you can take January, I can move my presentation up to November.
   


Tilghman:   That is great.   Thanks.   Also will give me a chance to 
work on the presentation while on the beach (could not resist getting 
that in there)


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Re: [nlug] Red Hat at HealthCare.GOV

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On 11/01/2013 07:07 AM, Mark J. Bailey wrote:


Anyone else find it interesting (and a bit worrisome too) to see Red 
Hat so publically displayed as one of the major tech firms being 
rushed in for Obama’s and HHS’s “tech surge” to salvage HealthCare.GOV?




   Not a bit.
   Just take a look at the code on the main entry page, healthcare.gov. 
All it contains are links to other 
pages.  It has 1,600 lines of code delivered to the browser! It 
should be less than 160.   A lot of java script.   Why have any java 
script on the home page?   The common Cascading Style Sheet is 8307 
lines
   This morning, after clicking on the on-line enrollment, You could 
not get the individual page to come up.   This should be a very basic page.
   This is not a $600 toilet seat, it is a $100,000 rough cut hole in a 
piece of plywood toilet seat.
   It will have to be rewritten from scratch.   But then the same 
company with a new contract has been hired to fix it.


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Re: [nlug] Red Hat at HealthCare.GOV

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On 11/02/2013 08:44 AM, Howard White wrote:

On 11/02/2013 07:31 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:

On 11/01/2013 07:07 AM, Mark J. Bailey wrote:


Anyone else find it interesting (and a bit worrisome too) to see Red
Hat so publically displayed as one of the major tech firms being
rushed in for Obama’s and HHS’s “tech surge” to salvage HealthCare.GOV?



Not a bit.
Just take a look at the code on the main entry page, healthcare.gov.
<https://www.healthcare.gov/>All it contains are links to other
pages.  It has 1,600 lines of code delivered to the browser! It
should be less than 160.   A lot of java script.   Why have any java
script on the home page?   The common Cascading Style Sheet is 8307
lines
This morning, after clicking on the on-line enrollment, You could
not get the individual page to come up.   This should be a very basic 
page.

This is not a $600 toilet seat, it is a $100,000 rough cut hole in a
piece of plywood toilet seat.
It will have to be rewritten from scratch.   But then the same
company with a new contract has been hired to fix it.

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Good comments on this thread.  I am reminded about Alan Shepard, 
Mercury Astronaut:


"When reporters asked Shepard what he thought about as he sat atop the 
Redstone rocket, waiting for liftoff, he had replied, 'The fact that 
every part of this ship was built by the low bidder.'"


Sigh.

Howard


   But in this case there were no bids.   It was single sourced!

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Re: [nlug] Internet pricing

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On 1/26/14 10:14 AM, Curt Lundgren wrote:
My friend in Taipei just Emailed asking if I thought it was worth it 
for him to upgrade his service.


Present service:  60 Mbit down, 15 Mbit up for US$31.75/month

Proposed service 100 Mbit down, 20 Mbit up for US$33.33/month

My service:  18 Mbps down, 1.5 Mbps up, $55/month

Do I sense a discrepancy?


   I believe the reason for this is the Federal government's 
intervention by limiting providers to only two cable companies. They may 
do the same for mobile phones.   Hence limiting competition.   In 
countries that have Capitalism, as opposed to our Crony Capitalism, 
costs will be a lot lower.   The last time that I checked a few years 
ago, South Korea had the lowest Internet provider fees.


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Re: [nlug] Internet pricing

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On 1/26/14 10:22 AM, Zackary P. Boarman wrote:
I've always heard the rumor that it's cheaper due to being a smaller 
country so lower infrastructure costs. But I'd love to have that cheap 
of service.


   Very good story on our screwed up Federal regulations from 
Scientific American;
Why Broadband Service in the U.S. Is So Awful 



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Re: [nlug] Internet pricing

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On 1/27/14 12:44 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:


I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month
through TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I
was astounded to find out this was available after buying my new
house. I also get tv and phone over that fiber so there is a small
package discount built in there


So now you have to ask, why can't TDS come to Nashville?

   Federal regulations limit an area to two suppliers.   Since there 
are already two in Nashville, we have reached our limit.


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Re: [nlug] Google Fiber?

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On 02/19/2014 01:51 PM, Curt Lundgren wrote:
I wasn't aware that Nashville is on the list of cities Google is 
contemplating for gigabit fiber:


https://fiber.google.com/newcities/



   Monday's Wall Street Journal under Opinion, some good comments about 
Giga net. "Why Super-Fast Internet Is Coming Super Slowly" 
.
Bottom line, make sure your local government does not kill it


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Re: [nlug] What's your favorite...

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On 07/18/2014 05:04 PM, Howard White wrote:
So what is your current recommendation for a monochrome, wired network 
(not wifi) workgroup printer??  HP, Samsung, Canon, Brother (cough, 
cough), Lexmark (the suggestion of which might get me shot here), 
Xerox.  The list goes on and on.


Not interested in multifunction.  Just more things to break.



   I have been using the same HP 4L for over 20+ years.Have no 
plans to replace it.Ran these on the plant floor and very heavy 
office use.   Never a problem.   Buy a used one.


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Re: [nlug] PHP versions

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On 09/22/2014 03:38 PM, Bruce W. Martin wrote:

I have a server running CentOS 5.10 that we use as a test server for our web 
site.
The web development team have asked for PHP to be upgraded to version 5.3. 
Since it was available in the CentOS 5.10 repository I was able to oblige. 
Later they are asking that PHP to be updated to 5.5. This is not available in 
the CentOS 5.10 repository or in the CentoOS 6.5 repository. The changes in 
CentOS 7.0 are so fundamentally different that I am just now looking and trying 
to figure out what I have to learn and unlearn to start moving in that 
direction so I have not even looked at what is available there. Looking at the 
php.net site it looks like they have stable versions of PHP 5.3.29, 5.4.33, 
5.5.17 and 5.6.0. They state that 5.3.29 is the last release in the 5.3 series 
yet even CentOS 6.5 shows php.x86_64 5.3.3-27.el6_5.1 as the latest version. Is 
it reasonable for me to step outside of what is available I the repository and 
install a newer version. Is it likely to play well with apache 2.2.3-87 and 
mysql 5.5.37-1? I have 3 dozen servers and about 300 desktops to deal with so 
it is not like I am overloaded by what appear to be the World Class Standards 
of IT today but it just seems like asking for trouble to try accommodate this 
when Red Hat/CentOS have not yet down so.

What do you think?
Or should I get a block of cheese to go with this email?

Bruce
   

   I believe that my hosting service runs CentOS.   Default PHP is 5.3.28.
   But there is an application in the cPanel called *nPHPSelector* 
where you can change the version of PHP used by directory.

   This is what it states:

PHP Selector plugin allows user to select preferred PHP version per 
directory on the same domain. You can select the available PHP 
versions from the drop down menu.


eg: You need PHP version 5.2 on /home/perkinsn/public_html , you need 
to select public_html from the following list and select 5.2 from the 
drop down menu.


Same way, PHP version 5.4 on /home/perkinsn/public_html/wp, you need 
to select public_html/wp from the following list and select 5.4 from 
the drop down menu.



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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

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On 01/14/2015 10:04 AM, David R. Wilson wrote:

On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:20 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote:
   

So it was going to on GNU Radio.

Me and David Wilson will pick up this topic.
We have both been using GNU radio and are both Hams ( He's a lot
smarter in this area than I am).
 

For that matter just do a search on eBay or Amazon for "RTL-820"  .

Dave
KU4B
   


I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.
Ordered the kindle version of "The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR" by 
Carl Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot in 
putting together all the other information that Dave has supplied.   
Hoping to get my RTL-820 in the mail today.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

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On 01/15/2015 09:04 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.
Ordered the kindle version of "The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR" by 
Carl Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot in 
putting together all the other information that Dave has supplied.   
Hoping to get my RTL-820 in the mail today.


   I do NOT recommend the book "The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR" by 
Carl Laufer.   Started the second chapter and it is all Microsoft's Windows.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

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On 01/15/2015 09:29 AM, Allen Minix wrote:
One note on the RTL-SDR:  get a better antenna.  The one that comes 
with most of them is less than stellar.  You can always slap it on a 
cookie sheet for a decent ground plane, but an antenna upgrade does 
wonders.  For what you pay for the setup, you still can't complain!


   You are very right , an antenna can make a very big difference.
   Personally looking forward to the antenna.   Have set up some and 
built my own in the past to focus on a narrow frequency width.   Works 
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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

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On 01/15/2015 09:39 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:

On 01/15/2015 09:04 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.
Ordered the kindle version of "The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR" 
by Carl Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot 
in putting together all the other information that Dave has 
supplied.   Hoping to get my RTL-820 in the mail today.


   I do NOT recommend the book "The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR" 
by Carl Laufer.   Started the second chapter and it is all Microsoft's 
Windows.


Oops, many pages later I found the section on running with Linux.

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Re: [nlug] dedicated server hosting

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On 02/23/2015 09:00 AM, Greg Donald wrote:

Where's a good place to get dedicated server hosting?
   


   Also try http://www.hostoople.com/
   I am with them and have been happy.
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Re: [nlug] 3-2-1 Backups - Again

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On 04/03/2015 08:35 AM, Jack Coats wrote:
Time for your mostly annual backup lecture from me ... but this time a 
couple of entertaining talking heads cover the points pretty well.


   And review your whole backup process once every year or two.

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Re: [nlug] Fiber to the home

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On 05/18/2015 09:41 PM, Kevin Hart wrote:
... but from what people are reporting on Reddit, its not anywhere 
outside the Gulch at this point almost.  Until Google Fiber’s buildout 
is wide spread… Kinda thinking the best option is to try this 
offering.  Oh this is inside Metro, in the Antioch area close to 
Nolesnville.


   Nippers Corners Area:   They ran fiber in our neighborhood a few 
months ago.   Have been calling us with a special offer, but have not 
talked to them, so do not know if it is any kind of fiber offer.


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Re: [nlug] We have a talk for tomorrow

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On 09/07/2015 07:23 PM, Andrew McEnroe wrote:

We finally have a talk for tomorrow:

David Wilson will talk about

SDR (Software Defined Radio) and a new way to build GNU Radio blocks.

It will give a sneak peak as to what I will be talking about at
PhreakNIC this year ( Building GNU Radio Blocks Using JavaScript with
near  C++ performance).
   


   Very cool.   Greatly looking forward to it.

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Re: [nlug] calling database admins - (WAN / VPN) Replacement for old database app? (LAMP stack?)

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On 09/13/2015 04:36 AM, Justin W Elam wrote:


Likely a solution that seems to work well is SQLite backend with a 
small server/web page doing the front end. Until you get to millions 
of transactions this usually is the easiest database to learn first 
before going to  MySQL/postgreSQL/ for the back end




My SQL is very easy to set up and run.   Once you have added 
"includes" standard head that logs into MySQL all access is completed 
for each page that is used.


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Re: [nlug] calling database admins - (WAN / VPN) Replacement for old database app? (LAMP stack?)

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On 09/17/2015 08:19 AM, Wayne Fay wrote:

"be a simple transition with no major changes to
the UI or system overall to avoid confusing the 70+ y/o user."
   


   I take that personally that I am confused.

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Re: [nlug] Linux server updating for dummies

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On 10/24/2015 11:54 AM, xor wrote:
Now all of a sudden, someone there is wanting me to document the 
updates and how the updates might affect our software before I apply 
them, etc etc.  Tell me if I am wrong, but I have explained to them 
this is not a reasonable request.  However, one person in particular 
with a big business mainframe mentality can be very stubborn about 
things such as this.  So I could use a little help.


   A lot of the documentation may already be in the log files, i.e. 
/var/log/dpkg.log.xxx.   Also in the individual application documentation.


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[nlug] Home Server Advice Needed

[Perkins, Jerry]

For a few years I have been wanting to set up a home server and 
time has come.   LOOKING FOR COMMENTS


Requirements:
1)  Low power consumption.   (I am cheap)
2)  No fans
3)  Life expectancy longer than my own.
4)  SMB server
5)  Web server (run coppermine+)
6)  BackupPC server
7)  Other servers to be determined.

Right now I am thinking of doing:
 Operating System:OpenMediaVault (Also considered NAS4Free, 
formally FreeNAS)

 CUP:  Atom Quad ~1.7 Gig Hz
 Mother Board, Looking at Supermicro MBD-A1SAM-2550F-0,  uATX, $260
  Over kill, but covers all of my requirements.
  Have no clue where it gets its power from.  Is it just 12 V?
 Case:   Ordered, delivery this week.

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Re: [nlug] Home Server Advice Needed

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On 01/17/2016 09:42 AM, Jim Peterson wrote:
A lot of the time, you will get a wall wart or a laptop-style power 
supply with these. You can also get the output specs from the package 
and order the appropriate power supply for your setup. Amazon.com is 
nearly always my friend for this...


Just found the requirements, standard ATX power supply.Looks 
like I can get a fanless one for $50 to $150.




On 1/17/2016 9:38 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
For a few years I have been wanting to set up a home server and 
time has come.   LOOKING FOR COMMENTS


Requirements:
1)  Low power consumption.   (I am cheap)
2)  No fans
3)  Life expectancy longer than my own.
4)  SMB server
5)  Web server (run coppermine+)
6)  BackupPC server
7)  Other servers to be determined.

Right now I am thinking of doing:
 Operating System:OpenMediaVault (Also considered NAS4Free, 
formally FreeNAS)

 CUP:  Atom Quad ~1.7 Gig Hz
 Mother Board, Looking at Supermicro MBD-A1SAM-2550F-0,  uATX, $260
  Over kill, but covers all of my requirements.
  Have no clue where it gets its power from.  Is it just 12 V?
 Case:   Ordered, delivery this week.

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Re: [nlug] Home Server Advice Needed

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On 01/17/2016 09:58 AM, David R. Wilson wrote:

Take a look at what you want to do.  A Raspberry Pi is more than
powerful enough for lots of stuff.


   Raspberry Pi can not handle the BackupPC.   From what I read it has 
a i/o problem.



If it is
going to be something you might use from a remote location, you might
want to have a UPS and use a fairly robust desktop.  Consider what the
power requirements are going to be, what you use for a display (do you
run two or more?).  How much noise can you tolerate
   


Will go in a closet.No display, all access will be remote.
We tolerate ZERO noise!!!

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Re: [nlug] Home Server Advice Needed

[Perkins, Jerry]

   So far good.   Hope to have the project running this week and will 
give a final report then.   Just a few little stupid errors delayed the 
project, such as a dead power supply, which really turned out to be my 
stupidity in not installing a power switch!!!



On 03/16/2016 11:11 AM, Michael L wrote:

How did this project turn out?

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Perkins, Jerry <mailto:je...@jperkins.us>> wrote:


For a few years I have been wanting to set up a home server
and time has come.   LOOKING FOR COMMENTS

Requirements:
1)  Low power consumption.   (I am cheap)
2)  No fans
3)  Life expectancy longer than my own.
4)  SMB server
5)  Web server (run coppermine+)
6)  BackupPC server
7)  Other servers to be determined.

Right now I am thinking of doing:
 Operating System:OpenMediaVault (Also considered
NAS4Free, formally FreeNAS)
 CUP:  Atom Quad ~1.7 Gig Hz
 Mother Board, Looking at Supermicro MBD-A1SAM-2550F-0,  uATX,
$260
  Over kill, but covers all of my requirements.
  Have no clue where it gets its power from.  Is it just 12 V?
 Case:   Ordered, delivery this week.


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Re: [nlug] does anyone on this list not use Windows at all?

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On 03/25/2016 09:46 AM, Michael L wrote:

Hello NLUG,
I want to ask if anyone on this email list (at least at home) uses 
Linux only for their computing needs?


   Almost, no Microsoft for 17 years.   But I do use a hand me down 
laptop OS X from my wife.   Normally that is just browsing and travel.


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