RE: HP printer problem
I have swapped printers before and just tried to update the driver and ran into all sorts of issues. I had to delete the printer and then create a new one and just gave it the same share name. Mark From: Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2008 21:08 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: HP printer problem We just got a couple new HP 9040n printers to replace a couple 8150s. I gave the jet direct card on the new printers, the IPs of the old printers and without updating the driver software on the W2k3 server, most documents printed ok, except I think some problems with PDFs. Updated the server and then workstations with the 9040 pcl5e driver that came with the printer and started getting 2 copies of everything printed. Updated the drivers on the server with the most recent ones from HP's web site. Still getting 2 copies. Checked printer and it shows one copy on the settings, workstation and server are both set for one copy. Also updated the printer with the latest HP firmware. No change. Checked a held job in the queue and it showed one copy but printed 2. Any ideas appreciated. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** This email is sent for and on behalf of Inspop.com Limited ** Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registration no. 310635. Inspop.com Limited (also trading as Confused.com) is registered in England and Wales at 2nd Floor, Friary House, Greyfriars Road, Cardiff, CF10 3AE (Reg. No. 03857130 ). Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Officer by telephone on +44 (0) 29 2043 4200. Please then delete this email and destroy any copies of it. This email has been swept for viruses before leaving our system. Security Warning: Please note that this email has been created in the knowledge that Internet email is not a 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and accept this lack of security when emailing us. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. We may monitor the content of E-mails sent and received via our network for viruses or unauthorised use and for other lawful business purposes. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Messagelabs. The service is powered by MessageLabs. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: We're all doomed
Never thought I would say this, but see better returns on my BofA savings account at 0.5% a year From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: We're all doomed My IRA is an Insuficient Retiterment Account. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Durf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 401K is now a 201K... -- Durf On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Robert Cato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only 10%? My broker called me to say my account is -$600. I have to write myself a check, just to get back to a zero balance. Tongue in cheekmostly On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Roger Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if the Large Hadron Collider is actually located under Manhattan. It seems like Wall Street is falling into a big black hole. Whooosh!!! There goes another 10% of my retirement savings :( Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: We're all doomed Yes its true, and you too can have your portable Black hole for the OHH S***T emergencies for the affordable price of $19.95, checks made payable, to me. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Mike French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: We're all doomed SWEET! So the Blackhole effect is TRUE! -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: We're all doomed http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: We're all doomed And then bend-over and KYAG. lol. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hug your children people - Original Message - From: Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: OT: We're all doomed September 15, ABC News - (International) Large Hadron Collider's hacker infiltration highlights vulnerabilities. Though the Large Hadron Collider's infiltration by hackers did not disrupt the historic project, experts warn that its computer systems are vulnerable. Shortly after physicists activated the Collider on Wednesday, hackers identifying themselves as Group 2600 of the Greek Security Team accessed computers connected to the Compact Muon Solenoid detector, one of four key subsystems responsible for monitoring the collisions of protons speeding around the 18-mile track near Geneva, Switzerland. A few scientists had worried that the experiment could inadvertently create a planet-swallowing black hole. Physicists called this impossible, or at least extraordinarily unlikely. But the hack raises a different sort of worst-case scenario: the largest and most complicated science experiment in history, intended to reveal basic information about the composition of matter, derailed by malevolent intruders. The LHC experiments have very complex computer systems for data recording and analysis and even more sensitive systems for experiment control, trigger and data acquisition, said an MIT physicist and Collider collaborator. You could imagine that penetrating the 'real time domain' could have catastrophic consequences. Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5804254 http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5804254page=1 page=1 MIKE FRENCH NETWORK ENGINEER ~EQUITY BANK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing IT Right! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- -- Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I should have just left it alone. 1 hour 20 mins now….. still on restoring iPhone software Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It's Apple. As soon as Steve Jobs receives confirmation that your soul is in this secure storage lot, then it will finish. Not before then. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 13:26 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I just bought my son an iphone. Before giving it to him I am running the 2.1 update. So just how long does this update take? There is no music or apps on the iPhone yet.
Re: OT: We're all doomed
I think we're more likely to be doomed from our politicians and government intervening in our lives more than they should than any scientific experiment. On 9/16/08, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: September 15, ABC News - (International) Large Hadron Collider's hacker infiltration highlights vulnerabilities. Though the Large Hadron Collider's infiltration by hackers did not disrupt the historic project, experts warn that its computer systems are vulnerable. Shortly after physicists activated the Collider on Wednesday, hackers identifying themselves as Group 2600 of the Greek Security Team accessed computers connected to the Compact Muon Solenoid detector, one of four key subsystems responsible for monitoring the collisions of protons speeding around the 18-mile track near Geneva, Switzerland. A few scientists had worried that the experiment could inadvertently create a planet-swallowing black hole. Physicists called this impossible, or at least extraordinarily unlikely. But the hack raises a different sort of worst-case scenario: the largest and most complicated science experiment in history, intended to reveal basic information about the composition of matter, derailed by malevolent intruders. The LHC experiments have very complex computer systems for data recording and analysis and even more sensitive systems for experiment control, trigger and data acquisition, said an MIT physicist and Collider collaborator. You could imagine that penetrating the 'real time domain' could have catastrophic consequences. Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5804254page=1 MIKE FRENCH NETWORK ENGINEER ~EQUITY BANK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing IT Right! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: We're all doomed
[image: Government] On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:35 AM, TJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're more likely to be doomed from our politicians and government intervening in our lives more than they should than any scientific experiment. On 9/16/08, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: September 15, ABC News - (International) Large Hadron Collider's hacker infiltration highlights vulnerabilities. Though the Large Hadron Collider's infiltration by hackers did not disrupt the historic project, experts warn that its computer systems are vulnerable. Shortly after physicists activated the Collider on Wednesday, hackers identifying themselves as Group 2600 of the Greek Security Team accessed computers connected to the Compact Muon Solenoid detector, one of four key subsystems responsible for monitoring the collisions of protons speeding around the 18-mile track near Geneva, Switzerland. A few scientists had worried that the experiment could inadvertently create a planet-swallowing black hole. Physicists called this impossible, or at least extraordinarily unlikely. But the hack raises a different sort of worst-case scenario: the largest and most complicated science experiment in history, intended to reveal basic information about the composition of matter, derailed by malevolent intruders. The LHC experiments have very complex computer systems for data recording and analysis and even more sensitive systems for experiment control, trigger and data acquisition, said an MIT physicist and Collider collaborator. You could imagine that penetrating the 'real time domain' could have catastrophic consequences. Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5804254page=1 MIKE FRENCH NETWORK ENGINEER ~EQUITY BANK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing IT Right! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
VPN and Routing Question
I have several branch offices connected to our main offices with site to site VPNs. Each location has a PIX 506E. This has worked great with never any problems. Now, however, I am getting some employees who work at more than one branch office, and they are requesting the ability to access files at their other offices no matter which one they are in. I could set up VPNs between the branch offices, but this could get quickly out of hand. If I turn on RIP on all the PIXs, will that work to enable communication between all the branch offices over the VPNs through the PIX at the main office? Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Remote Desktop Users
What's the easiest way to add a domain group (say Network support staff) to the local Remote Desktop Users group of say, 200 domain-attached servers? One I have this answer I imagine this same method could add the same group to the local administrator group on 400 desktops, right? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Remote Desktop Users
Restricted Groups in Group Policy 2008/9/18 David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the easiest way to add a domain group (say Network support staff) to the local Remote Desktop Users group of say, 200 domain-attached servers? One I have this answer I imagine this same method could add the same group to the local administrator group on 400 desktops, right? *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: We're all doomed
LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I should have just left it alone. 1 hour 20 mins now….. still on restoring iPhone software Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It's Apple. As soon as Steve Jobs receives confirmation that your soul is in this secure storage lot, then it will finish. Not before then. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
Re: OT: We're all doomed
Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Remote Desktop Users
Restricted Groups Cheers Ken From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 12:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Remote Desktop Users What's the easiest way to add a domain group (say Network support staff) to the local Remote Desktop Users group of say, 200 domain-attached servers? One I have this answer I imagine this same method could add the same group to the local administrator group on 400 desktops, right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Running script via pptp
What I've done elsewhere is have the (in my case, KiXtart) script be in their StartUp folder, so that doesn't run until they're logged in. This same script would check itself against the \Netlogon share and make sure it was it's most current self. The only semi-trick is getting the first script on there in the first place, but there are numerous ways to do that too. Note I did this only for VPN clients, all other machines just ran it normally. One thing you can implement with the StartUp folder trick is the script can do some checking for the user and optionally notify the user you are not connected to mapped drive S:. I created a standalone KiXtart EXE that when clicked would then perform troubleshooting - first ping 127.0.0.1, then an expected GW, then DNS, then a specific server, giving Success! or Failure! messages that the user could directly report to the Help Desk, but I digress... David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Running script via pptp Yes we are just using Windows PPTP client. I knew cisco had something in there which is why it was running a script, I thought about creating a quick little script to call the vpn and then run the logon script. Maybe that will work. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Running script via pptp Actually, Looks like Network Access Quarantine Control in Windows Server 2003 will do what you need if your using MS client. From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Running script via pptp Just wondering if there was an easy way to have a login script run after the user is logged into windows and then connects to the vpn. My idea of putting a shortcut on the desktop they can click on met with resistance from sales people who hate to do anything different. They used to have a Cisco ASA and swear that it did some logon script, although I didn't see it in the client side and the device is dead so I couldn't go look on the cisco side (if theres an option). Thx ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Remote Desktop Users
Edit the GPO, navigate to: Computer configuration, Windows Settings, security settings, restricted groups in the right pane right-click and choose Add group... In the Add Group dialog type Administrators Click OK Click Add to the right of Members of this group In the add member dialog type: Administrator;DOMAINNAME\Domain Admins; DOMAINNAME\SUPPORT ---replace DOMAINNAME for your Domain name, replace SUPPORT for the name of your group. From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Users Restricted Groups in Group Policy 2008/9/18 David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the easiest way to add a domain group (say Network support staff) to the local Remote Desktop Users group of say, 200 domain-attached servers? One I have this answer I imagine this same method could add the same group to the local administrator group on 400 desktops, right? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Gotta say that while I havent used my iPhone with Exchange, it was pretty simple to set up with pop3. Apple is starting to try to make the thing more business-like - there is built-in support for VPN via L2TP, PPTP, and IPSEC. That tap-screen keyboard, a big complaint amongst hardware keyboard people, you really start to get used to it. I go ahead and let my errors fly since it can uncannily correct when you hit the wrong letter and correctly auto-complete the word; I can probably type just as fast on it by now as I used to with my old TyTN. On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I should have just left it alone. 1 hour 20 mins now….. still on restoring iPhone software Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
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If you shut off WiFi, the battery life goes up dramatically. I discovered this when running 2.0.x software; the 2.1 update claimed to increase battery life significantly, and whether that had to do with WiFi being on or not, I dont know, I just learned that with WiFi turned on, the battery would be drained to half by the end of a day without even being used. No big deal really, I never kept WiFi turned on with my HTC TyTN either. Battery life seems pretty respectable overall. I can go a few days on a charge. On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I should have just left it alone. 1 hour 20 mins now…..
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I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From:
Re: OT: We're all doomed
They start over each day. Print 30 billion dollars here, 10 billion there, bail out this, bail out that.Everyday, someone in the government pushes the RESET / REDO button but nothing ever gets corrected. Its madness. On 9/18/08, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
That's kinda funny. She a teacher. She carries an apple. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down.. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them.. No. I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly
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Good info...probably similar to my HTC...not a whole lot of phone use, but tons of email, and some surfing, music and movies. Charge it every night. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd
Re: OT: We're all doomed
I second the motion for ALL politicians being sent through the collider and starting over! On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Mike Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the
RE: VPN and Routing Question
RIP will not work across an IPSec VPN as it uses broadcast/multicast - you'd have to setup unicast neighbor statements (but now that I think about it, this may not be possible on the PIX). You'll have to use static routes to point each branch to the Hub when trying to reach other branches. You'll also need some special config on your Hub router/firewall to allow VPN hairpinning (VPN traffic entering the outside interface, looping, and exiting the same interface). This also assumes your Hub site has enough bandwidth provisioned to service all your branch sites accessing other remote sites through it. What kind of device sits in front of the PIXs at each location? What kind of connection is it at each site? Depending on your budget, number of branches, and your personal investment - you could look at DMVPN as an option. Dynamic Multipoint VPN essentially allows dynamic IPSec VPN tunnels to be built on the fly between branches - eliminating the need for traffic to traverse the hub (and thus comsume bandwidth). Not to mention other benefits, such as the ability to run routing protocols, reduce configuration on the hub/spoke, and (b/c DMVPN relies on GREoIPSec) the ability to send multicast/broadcast traffic across the tunnels. Aaron Rohyans IT Coordinator, IDC-USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 317.244.8307 (V) 317.244.4600 (F) From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VPN and Routing Question I have several branch offices connected to our main offices with site to site VPNs. Each location has a PIX 506E. This has worked great with never any problems. Now, however, I am getting some employees who work at more than one branch office, and they are requesting the ability to access files at their other offices no matter which one they are in. I could set up VPNs between the branch offices, but this could get quickly out of hand. If I turn on RIP on all the PIXs, will that work to enable communication between all the branch offices over the VPNs through the PIX at the main office? Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
logging deleted files
Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
+1 This is my most common usage scenario (as a portable browser). I also use it to cheat in games. I'll have a walkthru up on my phone while playing the game on my computer. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
How's it for surfing Pron??? ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? +1 This is my most common usage scenario (as a portable browser). I also use it to cheat in games. I'll have a walkthru up on my phone while playing the game on my computer. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief
Re: logging deleted files
You can turn on file auditing for particular folders if you know which folders are at risk Right-click folder Properties, Security, Advanced, Auditing 2008/9/18 Paul Everett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, *Paul Everett* *IS Dept.* *Confidentiality Notice:** * This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Considering your employer and the question you asked, I think you might've just won this week's irony award. In all honesty, I haven't done any of that browsing. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's it for surfing Pron??? ;-) *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:36 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? +1 This is my most common usage scenario (as a portable browser). I also use it to cheat in games. I'll have a walkthru up on my phone while playing the game on my computer. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to
Re: OT: We're all doomed
Strange - that looks a lot more like the one in Washington than the one in Springfield... -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Vicky Spelshaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 08:43:49 AM: [image removed] On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:35 AM, TJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're more likely to be doomed from our politicians and government intervening in our lives more than they should than any scientific experiment. On 9/16/08, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: September 15, ABC News - (International) Large Hadron Collider's hacker infiltration highlights vulnerabilities. Though the Large Hadron Collider's infiltration by hackers did not disrupt the historic project, experts warn that its computer systems are vulnerable. Shortly after physicists activated the Collider on Wednesday, hackers identifying themselves as Group 2600 of the Greek Security Team accessed computers connected to the Compact Muon Solenoid detector, one of four key subsystems responsible for monitoring the collisions of protons speeding around the 18-mile track near Geneva, Switzerland. A few scientists had worried that the experiment could inadvertently create a planet-swallowing black hole. Physicists called this impossible, or at least extraordinarily unlikely. But the hack raises a different sort of worst-case scenario: the largest and most complicated science experiment in history, intended to reveal basic information about the composition of matter, derailed by malevolent intruders. The LHC experiments have very complex computer systems for data recording and analysis and even more sensitive systems for experiment control, trigger and data acquisition, said an MIT physicist and Collider collaborator. You could imagine that penetrating the 'real time domain' could have catastrophic consequences. Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5804254page=1 MIKE FRENCH NETWORK ENGINEER ~EQUITY BANK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing IT Right! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: We're all doomed
Will it create anti-politicians, and when they interact with politicians will it destroy the universe? Oh, wait, we already have that, it's called a republic. Nevermind then, nothing to see here. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Mike Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second the motion for ALL politicians being sent through the collider and starting over! On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Mike Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
GPO settings for power management?
In Win2003 server, you cannot use GPOs to configure Windows XP power settings (turn off monitor, turn off hard disk, standby, etc)...correct? How about Win2008 sever? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 10:22:24 AM: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day asa teacher. I don't have an iPhone, but I do have a issued Blackberry (an old 7210). I charge it (and my personal cellphone) every night, whether I've even used either that day or not. It's a habit - before I go to bed, I charge them. I've never had a cellphone (or PDA) battery go dead because I've forgotten to charge it. Had one go dead once when I used it for too long one day, but that's different. So unless the battery life is so bad, that it'll run down during the course of a normal day,the battery life issue isn't that big a deal to me, since I charge mine every night, anyway. If you charge every night (I realize some situations can't, but those are rarer, I think ...), then the battery life should be manageable. To me, it's right up there with remembering where my keys and wallet are. :-) -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny ? I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down?. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down?. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL
Computer GPO at startup over wireless?
I have some laptop and wireless workstations that are not on the network at the time the user logs on, but later once they get a desktop they can create a vpn which will give them full server access. At the time they boot up, they get a 'guest wireless' connection which does not allow them to our servers and does not provide them with our DNS settings. I can deal with the DNS settings via script to point them to our domain, at that point they could run gpupdate even if it is manual. The problem is that some updates, specifically the Computer Configuration Policies must run at startup, before the user has logged in. (I am not trying to install software, just apply computer policies.) Is there a way to instruct Windows XP to cache the computer policies and startup scripts and process them once the computer has a vpn with the right DNS settings? I've looked at the Wireless Policy that came out with Server 2003, but since the DHCP server does not provide our DNS settings, I don't see that ever working, unless I'm missing something. At one point I attempted to use GPO to set the DNS settings, but that threw them into the registry where laptop users who attempted to take the machines home could not change them, I need to leave the DNS settings DHCP by default, or at least leave them visible to the user. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them No... I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Umm, yeah, so does an iPhone. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I should have just left it alone. 1 hour 20 mins now….. still on restoring iPhone software Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long
RE: VPN and Routing Question
Aaron, Thanks for a very clear answer. There are no devices in front of the PIXs, and each site is a broadband cable connection with only 384K up and 1.5Mb down, so bandwidth could be an issue but I don't expect there to be a lot of traffic between sites. We are a non-profit, mostly running housing and other services for people with disabilities and rely mostly on state and federal funding, so as you can imagine these days our budget is extremely small. I don't believe we would be able to obtain any new equipment. I'll have to educate myself on hairpinning and see if that is something I want to do and can do on a PIX. We do sometimes qualify for very steep discounts on Cisco equipment (it's more like a donation with a 10% administrative fee), so it may be possible for me to replace the PIXs in 2009. Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: Aaron T. Rohyans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VPN and Routing Question RIP will not work across an IPSec VPN as it uses broadcast/multicast - you'd have to setup unicast neighbor statements (but now that I think about it, this may not be possible on the PIX). You'll have to use static routes to point each branch to the Hub when trying to reach other branches. You'll also need some special config on your Hub router/firewall to allow VPN hairpinning (VPN traffic entering the outside interface, looping, and exiting the same interface). This also assumes your Hub site has enough bandwidth provisioned to service all your branch sites accessing other remote sites through it. What kind of device sits in front of the PIXs at each location? What kind of connection is it at each site? Depending on your budget, number of branches, and your personal investment - you could look at DMVPN as an option. Dynamic Multipoint VPN essentially allows dynamic IPSec VPN tunnels to be built on the fly between branches - eliminating the need for traffic to traverse the hub (and thus comsume bandwidth). Not to mention other benefits, such as the ability to run routing protocols, reduce configuration on the hub/spoke, and (b/c DMVPN relies on GREoIPSec) the ability to send multicast/broadcast traffic across the tunnels. Aaron Rohyans IT Coordinator, IDC-USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 317.244.8307 (V) 317.244.4600 (F) From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VPN and Routing Question I have several branch offices connected to our main offices with site to site VPNs. Each location has a PIX 506E. This has worked great with never any problems. Now, however, I am getting some employees who work at more than one branch office, and they are requesting the ability to access files at their other offices no matter which one they are in. I could set up VPNs between the branch offices, but this could get quickly out of hand. If I turn on RIP on all the PIXs, will that work to enable communication between all the branch offices over the VPNs through the PIX at the main office? Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Yes they do, just not as capably as a WM 6.* device does. Unless you are looking for a glorified web browser (not that there is anything wrong with that). Tim From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Umm, yeah, so does an iPhone. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them No... I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From:
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Good rant.but how did Apple know what would be the best fit for you and create a phone to match it? Does that mean that you also didn't know what your needs and requirements were until Apple released the iPhone? Were you just wondering aimlessly around the various cell phone stores for a decade or so? The iPhone does fit situations. However, I believe there is a give and take for every offering out there, not just the iPhone. The rants on iPhones brings to mind the old Apple vs. PC discussions that ended up looking like cults on either side. So, Jobs has done it again. Successfully. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Umm, yeah, so does an iPhone. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down.. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them.. No. I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed?
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Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
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I don't think anyone here really hates Apples (I have both a Mac Mini and a Macbook). But I think we've all been exposed to Mac zealots, and have an instinctive defensive reaction when anyone says I love my Apple Cheers Ken From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 1:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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It was a joke, we monitor that very closely PLUS we're behind the State of Florida's firewall which allows them to check as well if they feel so obligated. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Considering your employer and the question you asked, I think you might've just won this week's irony award. In all honesty, I haven't done any of that browsing. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's it for surfing Pron??? ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? +1 This is my most common usage scenario (as a portable browser). I also use it to cheat in games. I'll have a walkthru up on my phone while playing the game on my computer. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You
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I know what's the best fit for me, that's the point. I'm the tool user, I decide what is the best tool for me. I had an HTC 8525 prior to the iPhone. I liked it, I really miss the slide out keyboard, but not having one now is not a deal breaker. My particular application, consolidating devices was probably the most important item in my list (I already head an iPod), but I wanted easy web browsing, and a touch screen without a stylus, too. I took it as a bonus that the app store was coming. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Rod Trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good rant…but how did Apple know what would be the best fit for you and create a phone to match it? Does that mean that you also didn't know what your needs and requirements were until Apple released the iPhone? Were you just wondering aimlessly around the various cell phone stores for a decade or so? The iPhone does fit situations. However, I believe there is a give and take for every offering out there, not just the iPhone. The rants on iPhones brings to mind the old Apple vs. PC discussions that ended up looking like cults on either side. So, Jobs has done it again. Successfully. *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Umm, yeah, so does an iPhone. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down…. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down…. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them…. No… I
RE: GPO settings for power management?
Here is a link I saved a while ago but never followed up on. It is EZ GPO which if remember correctly is a template for Group Policy created by Energy Star that is supposed to work with Windows 2003 server for 2000 and XP clients. Now I'll have to go check this out myself. http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_ez_gpo Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GPO settings for power management? In Win2003 server, you cannot use GPOs to configure Windows XP power settings (turn off monitor, turn off hard disk, standby, etc)...correct? How about Win2008 sever? Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Hmm - well I have a HTC Touch Diamond. And about 4x the resolution of an iPhone. Makes for a better browsing experience :) The HTC Touch HD appears to be offering 800 x 480 (so almost SVGA) on a device the same size as the iPhone... http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/15/htcs-touch-hd-unveiled-in-very-much-official-glory/ Cheers Ken From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 1:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Yes they do, just not as capably as a WM 6.* device does. Unless you are looking for a glorified web browser (not that there is anything wrong with that). Tim ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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No, I figured it was, I'm sorry if I came off like it wasn't. I just found it ironic considering your employer, and the question asked. It made the joke even funnier in my mind. :-) On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a joke, we monitor that very closely PLUS we're behind the State of Florida's firewall which allows them to check as well if they feel so obligated. *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Considering your employer and the question you asked, I think you might've just won this week's irony award. In all honesty, I haven't done any of that browsing. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's it for surfing Pron??? ;-) *John W. Cook* *Systems Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *315 SE 2nd Ave* *Gainesville, Fl 32601* *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *Fax (352) 393-2746* *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:36 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? +1 This is my most common usage scenario (as a portable browser). I also use it to cheat in games. I'll have a walkthru up on my phone while playing the game on my computer. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J.
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Yeah, I know, they weren't even really on the horizon when I received my iPhone. So...let me just say it, but you suck. :-) On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm – well I have a HTC Touch Diamond. And about 4x the resolution of an iPhone. Makes for a better browsing experience :) The HTC Touch HD appears to be offering 800 x 480 (so almost SVGA) on a device the same size as the iPhone... http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/15/htcs-touch-hd-unveiled-in-very-much-official-glory/ Cheers Ken *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 19 September 2008 1:30 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Yes they do, just not as capably as a WM 6.* device does. Unless you are looking for a glorified web browser (not that there is anything wrong with that). Tim ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Sys Admins are a quirky group, I fit right in, I'll take that award now! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? No, I figured it was, I'm sorry if I came off like it wasn't. I just found it ironic considering your employer, and the question asked. It made the joke even funnier in my mind. :-) On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a joke, we monitor that very closely PLUS we're behind the State of Florida's firewall which allows them to check as well if they feel so obligated. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Considering your employer and the question you asked, I think you might've just won this week's irony award. In all honesty, I haven't done any of that browsing. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's it for surfing Pron??? ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? +1 This is my most common usage scenario (as a portable browser). I also use it to cheat in games. I'll have a walkthru up on my phone while playing the game on my computer. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine's the 2nd (3g) version, and perhaps not so oddly enough, I mostly use it to browse the web while sitting in the server room waiting for servers to reboot or update or malfunction in whatever ways various vendors have coded their software to malfunction; so I guess essentially I use it more for entertainment. Just as well, since the company hasnt subsidized me or whatever, then its not any part of the company so I should have no obligation to use it for company purposes. But really, sitting in front of a malfunctioning server in a rack in a noisy server room, what else are you gonna do? Its Safari browser renders every page perfectly; Slashdot, Engadget, Gizmodo, TGDaily, Toms Hardware, etc etc etc. Really makes server maintenance not so painful. I really look at the iPhone as just the perfect mobile web browser, after playing with IE and Opera on WM. the iPod and Google GPS stuff is a nice addon :) On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: I have the first gen iPhone. Depending upon activity I can get a good solid workday's use out of it. If I don't use it a lot, I can probably go three days between charges. I'll make sure I'm fully charged if I'm going to be out the office, in the event I have to use it a lot. I'm not a big phone talker. I bought it to consolidate devices (iPod and cell phone). I haven't configured work email on it, though I do have my gmail account on it. My wife has a second gen, and she has to charge hers nearly every night. And if she doesn't charge it on any particular night, she's definitely charging it the next night. Her use is different than mine, since she talks on the phone a lot, and is fetching her email on a regular basis, I believe. In general I think she's a heavier user than I am, since I'm mostly in the office with other means of connectivity. She uses hers almost constantly throughout the day as a teacher. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I have to say my HTC doesn't have great battery life like the Blackberries in our org, I have to charge each day. Can I ask what the life of your iPhone's battery is? Personal interests sake... On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course
Re: GPO settings for power management?
I just implemented the EZ GPO and it works like a champ for XP. Ralph Smith wrote: Here is a link I saved a while ago but never followed up on. It is EZ GPO which if remember correctly is a template for Group Policy created by Energy Star that is supposed to work with Windows 2003 server for 2000 and XP clients. Now I’ll have to go check this out myself. http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_ez_gpo Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GPO settings for power management? In Win2003 server, you cannot use GPOs to configure Windows XP power settings (turn off monitor, turn off hard disk, standby, etc)…correct? How about Win2008 sever? ** *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message.* -- Matt Cross, MCSE: Messaging mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Im getting a HTC Touch Diamond next month. I gots to have RDP on my phone, it a moral imperative! James - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Speaking of browsers.what do you think of Skyfire on WM6? From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Yes they do, just not as capably as a WM 6.* device does. Unless you are looking for a glorified web browser (not that there is anything wrong with that). Tim From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Umm, yeah, so does an iPhone. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the update server is down.. So why the **% did it offer to upgrade the ((*(*#$ software if the (^$%^*# server is ((*#$ down.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them.. No. I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues
RE: logging deleted files
http://sogeeky.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-audit-and-track-file-deletion s.html Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: logging deleted files You can turn on file auditing for particular folders if you know which folders are at risk Right-click folder Properties, Security, Advanced, Auditing 2008/9/18 Paul Everett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Did I say I was anti-apple? No. Was I bowing to the Micro$oft gods? No. I'm a Linux man myself. I was just stating, that in my opinion WM 6.1 was easier to configure then the iPhone. Sorry if my opinion offended you. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:31 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com
RE: GPO settings for power management?
I have been using EZ GPO for years, just for turning off the monitor on Windows 2000 and Windows XP machines. Recently we have been using it to be a bit more aggressive, put the computer to sleep... my challenge was _not_ to turn off those computers that are used by users off campus for remote desktop, so I created a WMI filter that bypasses machines on Static IP Addresses. (we only use static IP for remote access.) -Original Message- From: Matt Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO settings for power management? I just implemented the EZ GPO and it works like a champ for XP. Ralph Smith wrote: Here is a link I saved a while ago but never followed up on. It is EZ GPO which if remember correctly is a template for Group Policy created by Energy Star that is supposed to work with Windows 2003 server for 2000 and XP clients. Now I'll have to go check this out myself. http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_ez_gpo Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 -- -- *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:52 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GPO settings for power management? In Win2003 server, you cannot use GPOs to configure Windows XP power settings (turn off monitor, turn off hard disk, standby, etc).correct? How about Win2008 sever? ** *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message.* -- Matt Cross, MCSE: Messaging mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: We're all doomed
I don't know... might too large a mass of politicians clog up a black hole? Sort-of like a toilet? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 10:03:34 AM: Then we would get a planetary size Black Hole! Even 2 would risk that. I would prefer letting them test the atmosphere and water availability on Mars as the way to deal with them. Much cleaner and we get something truly useful out of it. Jon On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
As another Macbook user, I'd like to suggest VirtualBox. It's something that Sun created and let loose for free. It also has a seamless windowing system like Fusion. Runs XP Pro beautifully. Oh, did I mention it is free? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 _ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Looking for the Group Policy setting....
I Have done a RSOP, maybe I am missing a key. The RSOP can be viewed here: http://www.mapiadmin.net/music/rsop.htm I can save an email as an HTML file, just not as a OFT Outlook Template. Users Not in that OU can save as an OFT Outlook Template. The exact error is : This operation has been canceled due to restrictions in effect on this computer. Please contact your system administrator. This is Outlook 2007. Thanks again. Jeremy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
It's already a sunk cost. VirtualBox wasn't to the point I needed it. Also, in order to run games, I need more direct access to hardware, so BootCamp is a necessity. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As another Macbook user, I'd like to suggest VirtualBox. It's something that Sun created and let loose for free. It also has a seamless windowing system like Fusion. Runs XP Pro beautifully. Oh, did I mention it is free? Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -- *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:31 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my
Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take?
Your opinion doesn't offend me. I never really claimed that you in particular were anti-apple, but alluded to a pattern of comments I've seen on the list that tends to discount products that won't work in their environment and dismissing any potential value those products may have in * other* environments.. Your comment I guess set me off. And to boot, the original poster's problem was not even a configuration problem, more like a Murphy's law problem If you apply an update immediately before the application device needs to be functional the update will fail and (temporarily) brick your system. I apologize to you for bearing the brunt of my opinion. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I say I was anti-apple? No. Was I bowing to the Micro$oft gods? No. I'm a Linux man myself. I was just stating, that in *my opinion* WM 6.1 was easier to configure then the iPhone. Sorry if my *opinion* offended you. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:31 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? rant Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? /rant Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1)
Re: OT: We're all doomed
Almost entirely hot air - quite compressible On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know... might too large a mass of politicians clog up a black hole? Sort-of like a toilet? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 10:03:34 AM: Then we would get a planetary size Black Hole! Even 2 would risk that. I would prefer letting them test the atmosphere and water availability on Mars as the way to deal with them. Much cleaner and we get something truly useful out of it. Jon On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: just plain old copying CDs
Nero does the job well. Is that anything strange about the original cd that some program could not interpret correctly ? - Original Message - From: Holstrom, Don To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
Thanks for the link Ralph. I have auditing from the folder in question's Properties enabled and also in Domain Group Policy on the DC, which is were the file is located. I can't get anything to show up in event log. In the Local Security Policy the audit local object success and failures are grayed out with no enable box. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files http://sogeeky.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-audit-and-track-file-deletion s.html Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: logging deleted files You can turn on file auditing for particular folders if you know which folders are at risk Right-click folder Properties, Security, Advanced, Auditing 2008/9/18 Paul Everett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: just plain old copying CDs
Any chance you are stumbling on anti-piracy measures built into many CD's these days. Klint Silvio L. Nisgoski wrote: Nero does the job well. Is that anything strange about the original cd that some program could not interpret correctly ? - Original Message - *From:* Holstrom, Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:51 PM *Subject:* just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: just plain old copying CDs
Are you talking about audio CDs? If so, you need to understand that although the data on the CD is in fact ones and zeros, CDROMs cannot access that data as they would for a data CD. A special mode is used to read the bits of an audio CD, and not all CDROM drives are equally adept at doing so. To get a perfect rip of an audio CD is not a trivial task from a programming point of view. The gold standard for reading audio CDs and creating wav files is Exact Audio Copy (EAC). Another program which is easier to use and generally considered as good as EAC is CDex. From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: just plain old copying CDs
Very good chance. But I hate to use the original when I have to do a couple of machines. I am a oldie and remember that CloneCD circumvented all that... From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: just plain old copying CDs Any chance you are stumbling on anti-piracy measures built into many CD's these days. Klint Silvio L. Nisgoski wrote: Nero does the job well. Is that anything strange about the original cd that some program could not interpret correctly ? - Original Message - From: Holstrom, Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
iPhone Exchange Prep Walk Thru
Anyone care to recommend a link for a good walk through on setting up Exchange 2003 to work with the newer iPhone 2.x Active Sync technology? I getting a lot of noise when I google the subject. I'm not a big Exchange guru so detailed steps would be most helpful. This is in a Windows 2003 SBS Premium environment. Thanks, Anthony ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: just plain old copying CDs
Not audio CDs. Nor video DVDs. From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: just plain old copying CDs Are you talking about audio CDs? If so, you need to understand that although the data on the CD is in fact ones and zeros, CDROMs cannot access that data as they would for a data CD. A special mode is used to read the bits of an audio CD, and not all CDROM drives are equally adept at doing so. To get a perfect rip of an audio CD is not a trivial task from a programming point of view. The gold standard for reading audio CDs and creating wav files is Exact Audio Copy (EAC). Another program which is easier to use and generally considered as good as EAC is CDex. From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
Thanks for the link Ralph. I have auditing from the folder in question's Properties enabled and also in Domain Group Policy on the DC, which is were the file is located. I can't get anything to show up in event log. In the Local Security Policy the audit local object success and failures are grayed out with no enable box. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files http://sogeeky.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-audit-and-track-file-deletion s.html Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: logging deleted files You can turn on file auditing for particular folders if you know which folders are at risk Right-click folder Properties, Security, Advanced, Auditing 2008/9/18 Paul Everett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3
Due to the big difference in machine hardware, sysprepping won´t help me very much. I need a customized install, with the selections for keyboard, timezones, group names, accounts, etc, a bunch of SATA drivers, other drivers for the most common hardware pieces we use. Would like to add Adobe Reader, Java, media player updates to that also. What would be the MS-approved name for the technology to do that, so that I can google for it ? I considered nLite to be just a graphical frontend for the .inf file modifications necessary to integrate drivers and pre-define configurations - Original Message - From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 That's one of the reasons I dropped nLite for sysprep'ed ghost images. Joseph L. Casale wrote: I always use MS methods for all my deployments, which often means a tad extra work but its peace of mind from supportability when the merde hits the fan... -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: just plain old copying CDs
My apologies, CloneCd is still out there, sold by slysoft. Google is my friend, Google is my friend... From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: just plain old copying CDs Nero does the job well. Is that anything strange about the original cd that some program could not interpret correctly ? - Original Message - From: Holstrom, Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
I have auditing from the folder in question's Properties enabled and also in Domain Group Policy on the DC, which is were the file is located. I can't get anything to show up in event log of the DC. In the Local Security Policy of the DC the audit local object success and failures are grayed out with no enable box. From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: logging deleted files ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: iPhone Exchange Prep Walk Thru
Now, it's exactly the same as setting up access for Windows Mobile ActiveSync connections. Search for configuration steps for Active Sync, but without the iPhone qualifier. -Original Message- From: Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: iPhone Exchange Prep Walk Thru Anyone care to recommend a link for a good walk through on setting up Exchange 2003 to work with the newer iPhone 2.x Active Sync technology? I getting a lot of noise when I google the subject. I'm not a big Exchange guru so detailed steps would be most helpful. This is in a Windows 2003 SBS Premium environment. Thanks, Anthony ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: just plain old copying CDs
Nothing really all that wrong about that. My car's radio plays music from a data CD burned full of MP3 files, so ripping a protected CD is a rather valid thing to desire IMHO - cramming 10 CDs worth of music onto a single disc reduces clutter. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 _ From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: just plain old copying CDs Any chance you are stumbling on anti-piracy measures built into many CD's these days. Klint Silvio L. Nisgoski wrote: Nero does the job well. Is that anything strange about the original cd that some program could not interpret correctly ? - Original Message - From: Holstrom, Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: just plain old copying CDs I just copied a CD and it won't work as it should. I used to use CloneCD, I may even have copy somewhere. I think they closed shop at the behest of some organization or another. I also have the latest Roxio and Nero laying around somewhere. I just want a perfectly copied CD, byte for byte, down dirty, easy, so it cannot be recognized as something other than the original. I have all sorts of machines with both XP Vista OSX so that is not a problem. Is there a consensus on CD duplication out there? _ If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NzQ5MjczMTcxO nBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3
Imagex. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Due to the big difference in machine hardware, sysprepping won´t help me very much. I need a customized install, with the selections for keyboard, timezones, group names, accounts, etc, a bunch of SATA drivers, other drivers for the most common hardware pieces we use. Would like to add Adobe Reader, Java, media player updates to that also. What would be the MS-approved name for the technology to do that, so that I can google for it ? I considered nLite to be just a graphical frontend for the .inf file modifications necessary to integrate drivers and pre-define configurations - Original Message - From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 That's one of the reasons I dropped nLite for sysprep'ed ghost images. Joseph L. Casale wrote: I always use MS methods for all my deployments, which often means a tad extra work but its peace of mind from supportability when the merde hits the fan... -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3
Sorry, missed the post before. ImageX would work fine for imaging but it cant inject drivers into XP. Sysprep will *very* much help you. It's designed to do just this, it will allow additional Mass Storage Drivers to be included in the image, then it will remove what's not present after. nLite is cool, but its more than a GUI front end, it's a bit of a hack. KB303786 which leads to KB302577 HTH, jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Imagex. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Due to the big difference in machine hardware, sysprepping won´t help me very much. I need a customized install, with the selections for keyboard, timezones, group names, accounts, etc, a bunch of SATA drivers, other drivers for the most common hardware pieces we use. Would like to add Adobe Reader, Java, media player updates to that also. What would be the MS-approved name for the technology to do that, so that I can google for it ? I considered nLite to be just a graphical frontend for the .inf file modifications necessary to integrate drivers and pre-define configurations - Original Message - From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 That's one of the reasons I dropped nLite for sysprep'ed ghost images. Joseph L. Casale wrote: I always use MS methods for all my deployments, which often means a tad extra work but its peace of mind from supportability when the merde hits the fan... -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: We're all doomed
So we need to come up with a Politico Plunger? Sounds like a job for Shookie Monster, he's the best design guy I know. TVK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed I don't know... might too large a mass of politicians clog up a black hole? Sort-of like a toilet? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 10:03:34 AM: Then we would get a planetary size Black Hole! Even 2 would risk that. I would prefer letting them test the atmosphere and water availability on Mars as the way to deal with them. Much cleaner and we get something truly useful out of it. Jon On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3
Absolutely, I do it all the time. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Imagex can inject drivers into an XP image. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Sorry, missed the post before. ImageX would work fine for imaging but it cant inject drivers into XP. Sysprep will *very* much help you. It's designed to do just this, it will allow additional Mass Storage Drivers to be included in the image, then it will remove what's not present after. nLite is cool, but its more than a GUI front end, it's a bit of a hack. KB303786 which leads to KB302577 HTH, jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Imagex. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Due to the big difference in machine hardware, sysprepping won´t help me very much. I need a customized install, with the selections for keyboard, timezones, group names, accounts, etc, a bunch of SATA drivers, other drivers for the most common hardware pieces we use. Would like to add Adobe Reader, Java, media player updates to that also. What would be the MS-approved name for the technology to do that, so that I can google for it ? I considered nLite to be just a graphical frontend for the .inf file modifications necessary to integrate drivers and pre-define configurations - Original Message - From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 That's one of the reasons I dropped nLite for sysprep'ed ghost images. Joseph L. Casale wrote: I always use MS methods for all my deployments, which often means a tad extra work but its peace of mind from supportability when the merde hits the fan... -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
I don't have a Domain Controller Security Policy in Admin Tools, just Local Security Policy and yes the Define these policy settings box is missing. I just meant the files in question are on the DC. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files I think you want to go to Administrative Tools Domain Controller Security Policy Local Security Policy if this applies to the domain controller. There should be a box for Define these policy settings. Is that what's missing? I'm not sure what you mean by the file being located in the Domain Group Policy on the DC. Do you mean the file is on the Domain Controller under the C:\WINDOWS\SYSVOL\domain\Policies folder? Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files Thanks for the link Ralph. I have auditing from the folder in question's Properties enabled and also in Domain Group Policy on the DC, which is were the file is located. I can't get anything to show up in event log. In the Local Security Policy the audit local object success and failures are grayed out with no enable box. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files http://sogeeky.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-audit-and-track-file-deletion s.html Ralph Smith Gateway Community Industries 845-331-1261 x234 From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: logging deleted files You can turn on file auditing for particular folders if you know which folders are at risk Right-click folder Properties, Security, Advanced, Auditing 2008/9/18 Paul Everett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: We're all doomed
Well, it is the beautiful time of year for Springfield. We'd love to have him test it there! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 01:19:35 PM: So we need to come up with a Politico Plunger? Sounds like a job for Shookie Monster, he's the best design guy I know. TVK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed I don't know... might too large a mass of politicians clog up a black hole? Sort-of like a toilet? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 10:03:34 AM: Then we would get a planetary size Black Hole! Even 2 would risk that. I would prefer letting them test the atmosphere and water availability on Mars as the way to deal with them. Much cleaner and we get something truly useful out of it. Jon On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: We're all doomed
I second that. (From Wheeling, IL) Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 13:35 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: We're all doomed Well, it is the beautiful time of year for Springfield. We'd love to have him test it there! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 01:19:35 PM: So we need to come up with a Politico Plunger? Sounds like a job for Shookie Monster, he's the best design guy I know. TVK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed I don't know... might too large a mass of politicians clog up a black hole? Sort-of like a toilet? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 10:03:34 AM: Then we would get a planetary size Black Hole! Even 2 would risk that. I would prefer letting them test the atmosphere and water availability on Mars as the way to deal with them. Much cleaner and we get something truly useful out of it. Jon On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Lee Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it ALL politicians and then we can start over g On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Maybe the scientific community should shoot some politicians through the collider? From: TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: We're all doomed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
new computers
When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I've always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you're creating an AD object for something that doesn't exist yet, but other than that, I didn't have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3
Hardware is a non issue. Take a look at my sysprep.inf to see how I do it: http://www.optimumdata.net/phil/sysprep.inf Because of the SysprepMassStorage section it does not matter if the machine has SCSI drives, SAS drives, IDE drives, or SATA drives. IMO the general rule of thumb for application installation should be: applications are not ever put on the deployment image. That's what software installation GPOs are for. I make an exception for IE7, a VNC server, WMP, and .NET Framework. The only thing I don't have an answer for is the localization settings (keyboard, timezone). Silvio L. Nisgoski wrote: Due to the big difference in machine hardware, sysprepping won´t help me very much. I need a customized install, with the selections for keyboard, timezones, group names, accounts, etc, a bunch of SATA drivers, other drivers for the most common hardware pieces we use. Would like to add Adobe Reader, Java, media player updates to that also. What would be the MS-approved name for the technology to do that, so that I can google for it ? I considered nLite to be just a graphical frontend for the .inf file modifications necessary to integrate drivers and pre-define configurations -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: new computers
How structured is the creation process? For us, if the account isn't pre-staged, it tends to stay in our generic New PC OU. Given that the field guys don't get local Admin unless it's specifically in _their_ structure (5 branches within AD), the options are - A) pre-stage and be sure it's right out of the box or B) revert to local Admin and leave it in the generic OU. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: new computers When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I've always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you're creating an AD object for something that doesn't exist yet, but other than that, I didn't have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: new computers
I don't have a better reason, but with SBS you have to create the account on the server first to use the wizard. Maybe that's where the other arguement comes from??? We do it like you do. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I've always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you're creating an AD object for something that doesn't exist yet, but other than that, I didn't have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: new computers
I've done it both ways. I usually try to have the AD objects created first. If you create the AD object first the machine will get the right GPOs right off the bat. It's less work that way, especially if you use software installation GPOs. The machine is 100% ready to go sooner. Joe Heaton wrote: When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I’ve always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you’re creating an AD object for something that doesn’t exist yet, but other than that, I didn’t have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
The program Undelete Server can help 1. it put file in the recoverybin, so they can be recovered. 2. it logs, who did delete the file. Jos _ From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 16:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: logging deleted files Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
I have tried this program in different versions in different iterations at different times over the last few years, and it has always brought down my file servers. Is there a new version that would work with Server 08? From: Geling, Jos HS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files The program Undelete Server can help 1. it put file in the recoverybin, so they can be recovered. 2. it logs, who did delete the file. Jos From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 16:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: logging deleted files Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3
CMIIW, Doesn't imagex just create/mount images, and peimg /inf is what injected drivers. In the case of XP, you still use sysprep, but can mount the image and adjust the sysprep.inf? So you ImageX doesn't relaly have anything to do with the drivers, its peimg in vista, and still sysprep in XP? Right? jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Imagex can inject drivers into an XP image. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Sorry, missed the post before. ImageX would work fine for imaging but it cant inject drivers into XP. Sysprep will *very* much help you. It's designed to do just this, it will allow additional Mass Storage Drivers to be included in the image, then it will remove what's not present after. nLite is cool, but its more than a GUI front end, it's a bit of a hack. KB303786 which leads to KB302577 HTH, jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Imagex. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -Original Message- From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 Due to the big difference in machine hardware, sysprepping won´t help me very much. I need a customized install, with the selections for keyboard, timezones, group names, accounts, etc, a bunch of SATA drivers, other drivers for the most common hardware pieces we use. Would like to add Adobe Reader, Java, media player updates to that also. What would be the MS-approved name for the technology to do that, so that I can google for it ? I considered nLite to be just a graphical frontend for the .inf file modifications necessary to integrate drivers and pre-define configurations - Original Message - From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Dell OEM XP Pro cd w/ SP3 That's one of the reasons I dropped nLite for sysprep'ed ghost images. Joseph L. Casale wrote: I always use MS methods for all my deployments, which often means a tad extra work but its peace of mind from supportability when the merde hits the fan... -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
There is a 2009 version that supports Server 08. From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files I have tried this program in different versions in different iterations at different times over the last few years, and it has always brought down my file servers. Is there a new version that would work with Server 08? From: Geling, Jos HS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files The program Undelete Server can help 1. it put file in the recoverybin, so they can be recovered. 2. it logs, who did delete the file. Jos From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 16:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: logging deleted files Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR
We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: new computers
Hmm, interesting reasons Phil. I can see the idea, create the object, put it in the right OU, the right group for GPO, etc. Thanks for that... Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: new computers I've done it both ways. I usually try to have the AD objects created first. If you create the AD object first the machine will get the right GPOs right off the bat. It's less work that way, especially if you use software installation GPOs. The machine is 100% ready to go sooner. Joe Heaton wrote: When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I've always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you're creating an AD object for something that doesn't exist yet, but other than that, I didn't have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1678 - Release Date: 9/18/2008 9:01 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: creaig new 2k3 server problem with loading from floppy dr
Talk about attention, Attencion From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? Murray This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: new computers
Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/18/2008 02:39:21 PM: When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? Just join. I?ve always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you?re creating an AD object for something that doesn?t exist yet, but other than that, I didn?t have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? It'll work ... but what do you gain? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR
Can't temporally grab a floppy drive from another machine? Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 14:00 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: logging deleted files
Anyone using, used Undelete Server version 2009? From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files There is a 2009 version that supports Server 08. From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files I have tried this program in different versions in different iterations at different times over the last few years, and it has always brought down my file servers. Is there a new version that would work with Server 08? From: Geling, Jos HS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: logging deleted files The program Undelete Server can help 1. it put file in the recoverybin, so they can be recovered. 2. it logs, who did delete the file. Jos From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 16:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: logging deleted files Is there anything that logs the event when files are deleted over the network? A user in one of our departments is deleting files, either unintentionally or not. The best I can do is check my daily backups to find out which day it happened, but we'd like to find out who it is. We don't need something to recover deleted network files, just something that logs the event that includes the username. Is there anything out there that can do this? We have a 2003 AD Domain. Thanks, Paul Everett IS Dept. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR
If it absotively, posilutely won't take recognize the USB connections (presuming you've gone through and made sure any necessary BIOS settings are enabled)... you're probably looking at needing to make a custom install disk for it with the mass storage drivers injected should HP not offer a SmartStart equivalent that's W2k3 compatible. From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR
We've got lots of floppies, but the Server doesn't have a floppy interface, so we are using USB floppies. The Proliant recognizes the floppy, but the Windows Server 2K3 is having trouble recognizing the floppy. Murray From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR Can't temporally grab a floppy drive from another machine? Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 14:00 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: creaig new 2k3 server problem with loading from floppy dr
I've seen this before Murray, but can I remember what I did? I think it was because I was using the wrong RAID driver...yes make sure you have the correct driver...intel series driver I think. It's night and day setting up the 1xx series compared to the real 3xx servers have you got a USB floppy drive? On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talk about attention, Attencion *From:* Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:00 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? *Murray* This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: new computers
Underscored are not valid in DNS names. No FQDN for you. -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: new computers Second question. Anyone know what could break using underscores in PC naming? i.e. loc_pcname Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: new computers I've done it both ways. I usually try to have the AD objects created first. If you create the AD object first the machine will get the right GPOs right off the bat. It's less work that way, especially if you use software installation GPOs. The machine is 100% ready to go sooner. Joe Heaton wrote: When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I've always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you're creating an AD object for something that doesn't exist yet, but other than that, I didn't have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1678 - Release Date: 9/18/2008 9:01 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: new computers
We join them to the domain but we only do 3 or 4 a month so it's no big deal but our naming convention requires a machine to be identified by the office it's in so that's a major factor in just doing it when it's sitting in its final resting place. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: new computers When you guys build new PCs, do you create the AD object first, or simply join the domain from the PC afterwards? I've always created the PC, then joined the domain, but our desktop guy just mentioned that our manager wanted him to create the AD object first. My first instinct is to say no, because then you're creating an AD object for something that doesn't exist yet, but other than that, I didn't have a real reason. Anyone have a better reason? Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR
I've run into this issue with DL140's and other servers that didn't come with floppy drives. I suggest downloading nLite and adding the drivers to the install process. Once that's done grab this tool and create a bootable CD: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm hth On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Murray Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've got lots of floppies, but the Server doesn't have a floppy interface, so we are using USB floppies. The Proliant recognizes the floppy, but the Windows Server 2K3 is having trouble recognizing the floppy. *Murray* -- *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR Can't temporally grab a floppy drive from another machine? Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 14:00 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* CREATING NEW 2K3 SERVER PROBLEM WITH LOADING FROM FLOPPY DR We're trying to build a new Windows Server 2K3, and since our server has no floppy drive, we're using a USB floppy and while the BIOS recognizes the drive, Windoes Server can't find the file it's looking for. We have also used a USB thumb wheel which we formated to look like a Floppy Drive, and same result. Unfortunately, Windows Server 2K3 will only look for the Hard drive drivers on a floppy disk. We have a HP Proliant ML110 and were trying to set up a raid. Any ideas on how to get around the floppy issue? *Murray* ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
