RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Steven M. Caesare]

And HWSNBN.

-sc

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

Not on this list IIRC, but another name from the past: Chthulu Jones

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL, remember when it was common here to say "I deaned the list for
the last
> week"
>
>
>
> From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:41 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>
>
>
> I long ago went to permanently deleting messages from the list and if
I get
> too far behind I just delete everything but the last day or so and
start
> from there.
>
>
>
> -Brian
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>
> "Webb, Brian (Corp)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/25/2008
04:20:43
> PM:
>
>> I think I joined the list in late '98 or early '99 - but I may not
count
>> as a regular since I don't spend more than a few minutes a day on
it...
>
> I probably signed up originally around 2000 or so ... and there are a
lot of
> days I just can't get to look at the list. At the moment, I have
something
> like 15K unread messages in my list folder 
>
>>
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:06 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>
>> I think I first joined in 98. Micheal E & Kurt were here then, don't
see
>> too many other regulars from that time frame.
>>
>> I was 39 for the 5th time then :-)
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

[Rob Bonfiglio]

Still no change.  I've talked with our Microsoft rep, and he is opening up a
free case for me.  I'll let you all know what we find.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Michael B. Smith <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  And how did this turn out?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> My blog: 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>
> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:24 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup
>
>
>
> I appreciate the help Michael.
>
>
>
> 1.  Yes, the destination folder does exist.  However, I also get the same
> error if I run "wbadmin get disks" just to get a list of the disks...so I'm
> thinking that perhaps there is something wrong with the service?  I haven't
> changed any permissions on the server either on the disk or in the registry
> since it was setup.
>
>
>
> 2.  The last "scheduled" backup would have been through Backup Exec.  And
> yes, it completed successfully.
>
>
>
> 3.  Am I supposed to manually allocate space for VSS to use wbadmin.exe?  I
> hadn't seen this in the documents I've looked at for using wbadmin.
>
>
>
> 4.  Yes, the volume is idle while I'm trying to perform the backup.
>
>
>
> I'll look into allocating space for VSS to see if that makes any
> difference.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Michael B. Smith <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm sure I could fiddle around with it and get it to work, I'm just
> trying to think what I've had happen in the past to help you:
>
>
>
> 1] Does the destination folder exist?
>
>
>
> 2] did the last "scheduled" backup work?
>
>
>
> 3] do you have space allocated for VSS?
>
>
>
> 4] is the volume idle (more or less) while you are doing the backup?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> My blog: 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>
> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 5:59 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup
>
>
>
> Unfortunately this didn't change a thing.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rob Bonfiglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> I'm doing that as we speak actuallyrealized that was the one thing I
> hadn't removed yet.  Just removing the DPM agent didn't do anything for me.
> So, while the DPM agent is uninstalled I am removing the feature, rebooting,
> and then will reinstall the backup feature.  I'll let ya know if I have any
> luck.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Michael B. Smith <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Have you tried removing the dpm agent?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> My blog: 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>
> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 4:55 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Server Core and Windows Server Backup
>
>
>
> I am having trouble getting Windows Server Backup to run properly on all 3
> of my 2008 Server Core installations.
>
>
>
> Initially I had installed the Backup Exec remote agent on the machines, but
> we are moving to DPM.
>
>
>
> I installed the DPM agent on the machines, and installed the Windows Server
> Backup feature, but I wasn't getting a backup of my system state.  So, I
> went to the machines to try and use wbadmin to do a local system state
> backup to see if I could perform one apart from DPM.
>
>
>
> Here is the syntax I am using, and the error message that is given back to
> me:
>
> 
>
> E:\>wbadmin start systemstatebackup -backupTarget:e:\Backup
> The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it
> has no enabled devices associated with it.
>
> 
>
>
>
> I get the same error if I attempt to perform the backup from the C: drive
> (to the folder on the E: drive.)
>
>
>
> I uninstalled the Symantec remote agent using MSIExec.  I uninstalled
> the WindowsServerBackup role, rebooted, installed the role, rebooted, and
> tried running the above command again, yet I still have the same result.
>
>
>
> To install the feature I simply entered:
>
> 
>
> start /w ocsetup WindowsServerBackup
>
> 
>
>
>
> Looking in the event logs I see where the Block level b

Re: FTP though an F5 BigIP

[Bob Smith]

Michael,

If I am FTP'ing from and inside server to and outside server, do I need to 
create a pool / virtual server for that FTP connection, I only have two HTTP 
and HTTPS Pools right now, FTP Server is not running, we are running a batch 
script that does FTP from a command line to an Outside FTP server..

Thanks again,
Bob Smith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael B. Smith 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:50 PM
  Subject: RE: FTP though an F5 BigIP


  Well, that's what you want to change.

   

  Regards,

   

  Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

  My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

  Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

   

  From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:39 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: FTP though an F5 BigIP

   

  Hi Michael,

   

  No persistence and no stickiness.

   

  Thanks for the reply,

  Bob Smith

- Original Message - 

From: Michael B. Smith 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: RE: FTP though an F5 BigIP

 

Do you have connections to the F5 set to sticky? (That is, IP persistence.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP though an F5 BigIP

 

Hello All,

 

We implement an active/passive F5 BigIP last weekend for 2 webservers, 
since then a daily FTP Job on the webserver to offload the log files has 
failed, nothing else has changed in the environment, same firewall, same 
servers, these were previously connected to Kemp LB's (through the kemps it 
worked fine) and we replaced the Kemp with F5's, has anyone run into this.

 

Thank you in advance,

Bob Smith

 

 

  

 

  

   

 




 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: FTP though an F5 BigIP

[Michael B. Smith]

Well, that's what you want to change.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: FTP though an F5 BigIP

 

Hi Michael,

 

No persistence and no stickiness.

 

Thanks for the reply,

Bob Smith

- Original Message - 

From: Michael B. Smith   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: RE: FTP though an F5 BigIP

 

Do you have connections to the F5 set to sticky? (That is, IP persistence.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP though an F5 BigIP

 

Hello All,

 

We implement an active/passive F5 BigIP last weekend for 2 webservers, since
then a daily FTP Job on the webserver to offload the log files has failed,
nothing else has changed in the environment, same firewall, same servers,
these were previously connected to Kemp LB's (through the kemps it worked
fine) and we replaced the Kemp with F5's, has anyone run into this.

 

Thank you in advance,

Bob Smith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Powershell scheduled job

[Troy Meyer]

You can redirect from within the script itself using out-file or echo (ghetto 
but I use it sometimes).

Gci c:\badexample | sort-object "name" |out-file c:\filename.txt


-troy


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Powershell scheduled job

I have a job I schedule as follows:



powershell.exe -PSConsoleFile "C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange 
Server\Bin\ExShell.psc1" -Command ". 'C:\Scripts\job.ps1'"



How can I redirect the output of this job to a text file?



Thanks!
jlc







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Kurt Buff]

Not on this list IIRC, but another name from the past: Chthulu Jones

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL, remember when it was common here to say "I deaned the list for the last
> week"
>
>
>
> From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:41 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>
>
>
> I long ago went to permanently deleting messages from the list and if I get
> too far behind I just delete everything but the last day or so and start
> from there.
>
>
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>
> "Webb, Brian (Corp)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/25/2008 04:20:43
> PM:
>
>> I think I joined the list in late '98 or early '99 - but I may not count
>> as a regular since I don't spend more than a few minutes a day on it...
>
> I probably signed up originally around 2000 or so ... and there are a lot of
> days I just can't get to look at the list. At the moment, I have something
> like 15K unread messages in my list folder 
>
>>
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:06 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>
>> I think I first joined in 98. Micheal E & Kurt were here then, don't see
>> too many other regulars from that time frame.
>>
>> I was 39 for the 5th time then :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: FTP though an F5 BigIP

[Bob Smith]

Hi Michael,

No persistence and no stickiness.

Thanks for the reply,
Bob Smith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael B. Smith 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:12 PM
  Subject: RE: FTP though an F5 BigIP


  Do you have connections to the F5 set to sticky? (That is, IP persistence.)

   

  Regards,

   

  Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

  My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

  Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

   

  From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:09 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: FTP though an F5 BigIP

   

  Hello All,

   

  We implement an active/passive F5 BigIP last weekend for 2 webservers, since 
then a daily FTP Job on the webserver to offload the log files has failed, 
nothing else has changed in the environment, same firewall, same servers, these 
were previously connected to Kemp LB's (through the kemps it worked fine) and 
we replaced the Kemp with F5's, has anyone run into this.

   

  Thank you in advance,

  Bob Smith

   

   

 




 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Backup for Workgroups by Lockstep

[Carl Houseman]

Haven't heard of it before but I can spot problems without using it.  I also
know the stove is hot without touching it.

They are not doing brick level backups (they specifically disclaim any
ability to do individual mailbox restores, which is what BLBs facilitate).
They're doing file backups, plain and simple.  Anything that relies on an
open file manager is not backing up Exchange the way Microsoft intended.

Could you restore one of their backups to a RSG?  I doubt it.

Get a backup product that is Exchange-aware.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Majorowicz
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:11 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sbs list] Backup for Workgroups by Lockstep

Anybody heard of it and/or use it?

It was recommended to me as a possible solution for speedier backups.  I'm
not sure I like how it backs up Exchange.  Apparently it uses an open file
manager to brick level the backup.

Am I correct is this analysis?

Regards,
Jim Majorowicz, MCP
Sr. Network Engineer
Whitsell Computer Services
(503) 297-8440x12
www.whitsell.com
We can support you no matter where you are.  Ask me for details.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Powershell scheduled job

[Michael B. Smith]

-Command ". 'C:\Scripts\job.ps1' | out-file text-file-name.txt"

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Powershell scheduled job

 

I have a job I schedule as follows:

 

powershell.exe -PSConsoleFile "C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange
Server\Bin\ExShell.psc1" -Command ". 'C:\Scripts\job.ps1'"

 

How can I redirect the output of this job to a text file?

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Powershell scheduled job

[Joseph L. Casale]

I have a job I schedule as follows:

powershell.exe -PSConsoleFile "C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange 
Server\Bin\ExShell.psc1" -Command ". 'C:\Scripts\job.ps1'"

How can I redirect the output of this job to a text file?

Thanks!
jlc

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: FTP though an F5 BigIP

[Michael B. Smith]

Do you have connections to the F5 set to sticky? (That is, IP persistence.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP though an F5 BigIP

 

Hello All,

 

We implement an active/passive F5 BigIP last weekend for 2 webservers, since
then a daily FTP Job on the webserver to offload the log files has failed,
nothing else has changed in the environment, same firewall, same servers,
these were previously connected to Kemp LB's (through the kemps it worked
fine) and we replaced the Kemp with F5's, has anyone run into this.

 

Thank you in advance,

Bob Smith

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Backup for Workgroups by Lockstep

[Jim Majorowicz]

Anybody heard of it and/or use it?

 

It was recommended to me as a possible solution for speedier backups.  I'm
not sure I like how it backs up Exchange.  Apparently it uses an open file
manager to brick level the backup.

 

Am I correct is this analysis?

 

 

Regards,

Jim Majorowicz, MCP

Sr. Network Engineer

Whitsell Computer Services

(503) 297-8440x12

www.whitsell.com

We can support you no matter where you are.  Ask me for details.

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

FTP though an F5 BigIP

[Bob Smith]

Hello All,

We implement an active/passive F5 BigIP last weekend for 2 webservers, since 
then a daily FTP Job on the webserver to offload the log files has failed, 
nothing else has changed in the environment, same firewall, same servers, these 
were previously connected to Kemp LB's (through the kemps it worked fine) and 
we replaced the Kemp with F5's, has anyone run into this.

Thank you in advance,
Bob Smith
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Kurt Buff]

Something like that. Learned a lot, and hope I helped a few.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't beleive I/we have been on this list that long!  And, what...
> we were all a part of that exodus from the old [ntsysadmin] list,
> right?
>
> Good times, good times...   lol
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I can't even remember that far back...
>>
>> That was a *long* time ago.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I think I first joined in 98. Micheal E & Kurt were here then, don't see
>>> too many other regulars from that time frame.
>>>
>>> I was 39 for the 5th time then :-)
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:52 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure that you were here when I first joined the list, in uh
>>> 1999-ish?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>>> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>>> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:18 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> You talking seniority on the list or the planet? :-p
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:12 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> Hey, there are a few people on this mailing list older than I am...I'm
>>> not
>>> the most senior by far.
>>>
>>> Right, Bob and Kurt?  :-)
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:47 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> You know that dude was 182 yrs old when Noah was born... That was like
>>> prime of life since he lives to 777 years old.  Man that must make you
>>> like 6200 yrs old.  How does it feel MBS to be the most senior member of
>>> AARP?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:22 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> Well, it is true that my driver's license starts with 0. Beyond that,
>>> this
>>> deponent sayeth not.
>>>
>>> It was actually Lamech that signed my yearbook. Noah was not yet a
>>> glimmer
>>> in his father's eye.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>>> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
>>> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:23 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> That doesn't matter to MBS, he's so old his driver's license number is
>>> 000--007 and Noah signed his year-book. :)
>>>
>>> This non-technical humor injection brought to you by Shook...
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:18 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
>>>
>>> Old, very old.
>>>
>>> We used them before there was such a thing as Newegg.
>>>
>>> Michael B. Smith wrote:
 Why have I never heard of mwave.com? Are they new?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Phil Brutsche
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~ 

Intranet Connections

[Andy Ognenoff]

I know I talked to someone a while back about Intranet Connections on this
list but I can't remember who.  If you use Intranet Connections can you
contact me offlist? I found a rather gaping security hole and I want to
verify it with someone else.

 - Andy O.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: $700B?

[Kurt Buff]

Here's where it all started - in 1999!

A post to another list that I've lifted here...


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Initial fun quotes:

 The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks
 in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will
 encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose
 credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional
 loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide
 program by next spring.

 Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has
 been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to
 expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt
 pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in
 profits.

And here's the money shot:

 In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie
 Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any
 difficulties during flush economic times. But the
 government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an
 economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of
 the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.


On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Vue, Za <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
> over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
>
>
>
> -Z.V.

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Re: $700B?

[Kurt Buff]

Perhaps, but the posse comitatus act has a lot to say about it.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Chinnery, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perfectly constitutional. There is no where in the constitution that
> prohibits.  The only thing close is that it would be against the law for the
> army to demand you house their soldiers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
>
> The US military has gone through a lot of crowd controlling in Iraq and
> other foreign countries so now they are ready to come and do the same
> thing..AT HOME.  For the first time an Army combat brigade will be deploying
> DOMESTICALLY OCT. 1.   A coincidence?   Is this even constitutional?
>
>
>
> http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
>
>
>
> -Z.V.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
>
>
>
> I don't need to see 700B of our money going to frickin companies that have
> been stealing from us the consumers for far too long. I say let them crash
> and burn..
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
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> Edward E. Ziots
>
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>
> From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
>
>
>
> If this plan fails, can I write off my portion on my taxes?  Like a capital
> gains loss? ;-)
>
>
>
> From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: $700B?
>
>
>
> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and
> non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a
> check instead.  Shutting up now.
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the
> bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
>
>
>
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
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> Subject: $700B?
>
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>
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
> over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
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>
>
> -Z.V.
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RE: Startup / Logon script issues

[Free, Bob]

The name is kind of misleading because what it does is turn off the Fast
Logon Optimization and makes XP boot like its predecessors did, that is
don't present a desktop until you are finished booting (drivers loaded,
services initialized etc)  A lot of the gurus tout that setting as a
'best practice' because it forces some of the CSE's to be processed at
startup that otherwise might take a couple of background refresh cycles
to process.

 

When you said "I know that it starts before the user logs in, but it
hangs and eventually times out unless the user logs in" it makes me
think that the computer account has initial permissions to one part of
the process but not the latter part that eventually fires under the
user's context. One other thought about the inconsistency would be to
run gpotool and assure all the components of the GPO are fully
replicated to all DC's.

 

A couple of things to try might be "Run startup scripts visible" or
enable more verbose userenv logging and see if the script CSE is
throwing any obvious errors.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;221833

 

Another possibility is a race condition between the NIC and TCP/IP
drivers described in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840669

 

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Startup / Logon script issues

 

Thanks Bob - meanwhile the plot has thickened.  On another machine, the
opposite behavior occurs - the desktop doesn't appear even after the
login script has completed!

 

What effect does "always wait..." have on laptops that might not have
any network connection at all when booted?

 

I'd really rather solve the problem of making this work as a startup
script.

 

Carl

 



From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Startup / Logon script issues

> What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not
being effective?  

 

Is "Always wait for the network at computer startup and logon" enabled?
The logon performance enhancements in XP can present the desktop despite
the synchronous setting. The always wait policy is said to disable Fast
Logon Optimization feature. There's a MSKB article about it.

 

 

This is something I saw that's related and also a possibility but I
never looked into it-
http://www.gpanswers.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=7099

 

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Startup / Logon script issues

 

Two questions:

 

What could prevent a computer startup script from continuing until a
user logs in?  I know that it starts before the user logs in, but it
hangs and eventually times out unless the user logs in.  I also know it
isn't network access, at least not obviously.  The script is able to
write a file on an Everyone-writable share before the user logs in.

 

What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not
being effective?   I have verified that the setting is in effect with
RSOP.  The desktop is shown without any apparent delay, meanwhile the
script takes up to 2 minutes to complete.  From timestamps written at
start and end of the script, I know that the logon script has not exited
until long after the desktop is displayed.

 

The same script is in play for both of the above questions - obviously I
am trying to complete the script before the user has control of the
computer.   The script is a .cmd file that in turn cscript's a .vbs file
located on a network share.

 

thanks all,

Carl

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

[Michael B. Smith]

And how did this turn out?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

 

I appreciate the help Michael.

 

1.  Yes, the destination folder does exist.  However, I also get the same
error if I run "wbadmin get disks" just to get a list of the disks...so I'm
thinking that perhaps there is something wrong with the service?  I haven't
changed any permissions on the server either on the disk or in the registry
since it was setup.

 

2.  The last "scheduled" backup would have been through Backup Exec.  And
yes, it completed successfully.

 

3.  Am I supposed to manually allocate space for VSS to use wbadmin.exe?  I
hadn't seen this in the documents I've looked at for using wbadmin.

 

4.  Yes, the volume is idle while I'm trying to perform the backup.

 

I'll look into allocating space for VSS to see if that makes any difference.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok, I'm sure I could fiddle around with it and get it to work, I'm just
trying to think what I've had happen in the past to help you:

 

1] Does the destination folder exist?

 

2] did the last "scheduled" backup work?

 

3] do you have space allocated for VSS?

 

4] is the volume idle (more or less) while you are doing the backup?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:59 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Server Core and Windows Server Backup 

 

Unfortunately this didn't change a thing.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rob Bonfiglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I'm doing that as we speak actuallyrealized that was the one thing I
hadn't removed yet.  Just removing the DPM agent didn't do anything for me.
So, while the DPM agent is uninstalled I am removing the feature, rebooting,
and then will reinstall the backup feature.  I'll let ya know if I have any
luck.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have you tried removing the dpm agent?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server Core and Windows Server Backup

 

I am having trouble getting Windows Server Backup to run properly on all 3
of my 2008 Server Core installations.

 

Initially I had installed the Backup Exec remote agent on the machines, but
we are moving to DPM.

 

I installed the DPM agent on the machines, and installed the Windows Server
Backup feature, but I wasn't getting a backup of my system state.  So, I
went to the machines to try and use wbadmin to do a local system state
backup to see if I could perform one apart from DPM.

 

Here is the syntax I am using, and the error message that is given back to
me:



E:\>wbadmin start systemstatebackup -backupTarget:e:\Backup
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it
has no enabled devices associated with it.



 

I get the same error if I attempt to perform the backup from the C: drive
(to the folder on the E: drive.)

 

I uninstalled the Symantec remote agent using MSIExec.  I uninstalled the
WindowsServerBackup role, rebooted, installed the role, rebooted, and tried
running the above command again, yet I still have the same result.

 

To install the feature I simply entered:  



start /w ocsetup WindowsServerBackup



 

Looking in the event logs I see where the Block level backup engine service
successfully started. After about 5 minutes the event logs show that the BLB
service successfully stops.  If I look at the services, I see the BLB
service is set to manual.  Before I run the wbadmin command the service is
stopped.  After I run it the service starts.   I get no errors related to
the backup in the event logs beyond what the program spits back out to me
(see above.)

 

 

 

Has anyone had any similar problems?  Any suggests, or care to point out
anything obviously stupid that I have done so far?  ;-)

 

Thanks for any help!

 

Rob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Directory permissions black magic

[Kurt Buff]

Figured it was something like that.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, James Winzenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Creator/Owner is by default granted full control, unless you explicitly
> remove it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Winzenz
> Infrastructure Engineer - Security
> Pulte Homes Information Services
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:10 AM
> Posted To: NTSysadmin
> Conversation: Directory permissions black magic
> Subject: Directory permissions black magic
>
> I've been reviewing permissions in staff home directories on our file
> server, and found something that I haven't been able to figure out.
>
> Home directories are on h:, connected to \\fileserver\home\username
>
> Permissions on that directory for each user are Full Control for
> admins, Change for the user.
>
> The weird part is that I am frequently seeing Full Control on
> subdirectories - \\fileserver\home\username\project
>
> How the heck is that happening? They are only writing/copying files
> from their workstations.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Kurt
>
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RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Steven M. Caesare]

Careful... lest *other* get wind of that.

 

-sc

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

 

LOL, remember when it was common here to say "I deaned the list for the
last week" 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

 

I long ago went to permanently deleting messages from the list and if I
get too far behind I just delete everything but the last day or so and
start from there.

 

-Brian

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations


"Webb, Brian (Corp)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/25/2008
04:20:43 PM:

> I think I joined the list in late '98 or early '99 - but I may not
count
> as a regular since I don't spend more than a few minutes a day on
it... 

I probably signed up originally around 2000 or so ... and there are a
lot of days I just can't get to look at the list. At the moment, I have
something like 15K unread messages in my list folder  

> 
> 
> -Brian
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
> 
> I think I first joined in 98. Micheal E & Kurt were here then, don't
see
> too many other regulars from that time frame.
> 
> I was 39 for the 5th time then :-) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: $700B?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I am not for bail out. I am for Bail in or no Bail. Show them to nearest
prison.

Original Message:
-
From: David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:23:49 -0700
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: $700B?


(First off, I appreciate Stu and Sunbelt not forcing this topic off-list, I
for one, appreciate this thread).

+1  times 10! We have met the enemy, and he is us. Years ago I used to have
the mentality "If I can afford the payment, then I can afford it". Luckily
15 years ago I decided that wasn't such a good plan.

Here's a test that I came across rather accidentally - ask someone how much
of a raise it would take for them to be able to buy cash for a car, or have
to finance it for only six months. The answer should hopefully be none,
because $1500 - $2000 (no missing zeroes there) will buy you a reliable
car...some people have a hard time giving up their "keep up w/ Joneses"
mentality to buy things they can actually afford :-). "I make $100K/yr, I
DESERVE better than my parents and their paid-for 1995-whatever ...". Many
people when asked that Q will think you mean "new car" - which tells me
they aren't thinking outside "Jonses" box IMO.

I have a friend who bought a modest house about 15 years ago, he called it
his "Taco Bell" house, because if he lost his job, he could make the
payments if he was stuck working at Taco Bell...if most people thought that
way, we wouldn't have this mess, regardless of banks actions.

I'd rather spend $700B on our education system, it would pay better
long-term dividends than bailing out flawed financial thinking...teach
these kids how to handle money, and they will make fewer of these mistakes
I'd bet. Too late for that option...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

I would argue that "the rascals" include not only greedy lenders, but also
greedy borrowers. These folks just couldn't stand to live in a modest home,
so they bought more than they could afford in an effort to keep up with the
Joneses.

Shame on me, but I feel a little good that it has come back to bite them in
the butt. My wife and I bought a modest home. When we were in the market,
we calculated our payment ability based on just one of our incomes--not
both. This was so we could afford to make the payments if one of us ended
up out of work. We also stayed far away from ARMs and interest-only loans.

All the while, I watched people in our age and income brackets building
nice, big new houses. And yes, I'll admit to a bit of envy. Now, though,
I'm mostly just relaxing. The economy sucks, but I can still make my
mortgage payment every month. And if my wife or I lose our job, I'll
*still* be able to make the payment every month.






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were, I'd
not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still have a
substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince $30k/yr
folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1% interest,
and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're told it's an
ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry - houses are going up
in value; they can re-finance against the increased value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only $3.50".
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest farmland
for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and put
them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major financial
institution in the world because what actually happened was never
considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who would
buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house, and these
new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply far excedes
demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700, their
$350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.  Folks
default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for not only
mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving the

RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local

[Webb, Brian (Corp)]

Sounds like you have another problem to look into before you can address
before getting non-admin users access.  You sure the machine account
hasn't gotten whacked?
 
-Brian

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon
local


ok, now crap !  tried running rsop after logging in to domain controller
as administrator, and after selecting computer and clicking next, I get
an ACCESS DENIED ( you do not have permission) error



From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon
local


Use RSOP from GPMC and see what is really applying.  I'm guessing you
have a policy applying that you don't know about.
 
-Brian

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon
local


nope, tried gpresult but that has to be with the user *after* they're
logged in... 



From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon
local


Did you run a RSOP against the machine with the user want to be able to
log in?
 
-Brian

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Weird situation at a client site, they're running 2003 AD, and have a
few terminal servers, one of which is still a Windows 2000 sp4 server.
Looks like the local security policy of 'log on locally' is being over
ridden by a global policy but I don't see it.  The effective setting is
greyed out empty for non-administrator users, even though the local
setting is checked.
 
Anyone run into this before ?  The global deny log on local is not
defined, so that's not it...
 
Thanks


 

 


 

 

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RE: $700B?

[David Lum]

(First off, I appreciate Stu and Sunbelt not forcing this topic off-list, I for 
one, appreciate this thread).

+1  times 10! We have met the enemy, and he is us. Years ago I used to have the 
mentality "If I can afford the payment, then I can afford it". Luckily 15 years 
ago I decided that wasn't such a good plan.

Here's a test that I came across rather accidentally - ask someone how much of 
a raise it would take for them to be able to buy cash for a car, or have to 
finance it for only six months. The answer should hopefully be none, because 
$1500 - $2000 (no missing zeroes there) will buy you a reliable car...some 
people have a hard time giving up their "keep up w/ Joneses" mentality to buy 
things they can actually afford :-). "I make $100K/yr, I DESERVE better than my 
parents and their paid-for 1995-whatever ...". Many people when asked that Q 
will think you mean "new car" - which tells me they aren't thinking outside 
"Jonses" box IMO.

I have a friend who bought a modest house about 15 years ago, he called it his 
"Taco Bell" house, because if he lost his job, he could make the payments if he 
was stuck working at Taco Bell...if most people thought that way, we wouldn't 
have this mess, regardless of banks actions.

I'd rather spend $700B on our education system, it would pay better long-term 
dividends than bailing out flawed financial thinking...teach these kids how to 
handle money, and they will make fewer of these mistakes I'd bet. Too late for 
that option...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

I would argue that "the rascals" include not only greedy lenders, but also 
greedy borrowers. These folks just couldn't stand to live in a modest home, so 
they bought more than they could afford in an effort to keep up with the 
Joneses.

Shame on me, but I feel a little good that it has come back to bite them in the 
butt. My wife and I bought a modest home. When we were in the market, we 
calculated our payment ability based on just one of our incomes--not both. This 
was so we could afford to make the payments if one of us ended up out of work. 
We also stayed far away from ARMs and interest-only loans.

All the while, I watched people in our age and income brackets building nice, 
big new houses. And yes, I'll admit to a bit of envy. Now, though, I'm mostly 
just relaxing. The economy sucks, but I can still make my mortgage payment 
every month. And if my wife or I lose our job, I'll *still* be able to make the 
payment every month.






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were, I'd
not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still have a
substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince $30k/yr
folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1% interest,
and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're told it's an
ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry - houses are going up
in value; they can re-finance against the increased value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only $3.50".
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest farmland
for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and put
them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major financial
institution in the world because what actually happened was never
considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who would
buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house, and these
new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply far excedes
demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700, their
$350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.  Folks
default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for not only
mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty cl

RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local

[Erik Goldoff]

ok, now crap !  tried running rsop after logging in to domain controller as
administrator, and after selecting computer and clicking next, I get an
ACCESS DENIED ( you do not have permission) error

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From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Use RSOP from GPMC and see what is really applying.  I'm guessing you have a
policy applying that you don't know about.
 
-Brian

 

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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


nope, tried gpresult but that has to be with the user *after* they're logged
in... 

  _  

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Did you run a RSOP against the machine with the user want to be able to log
in?
 
-Brian

 

  _  

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Weird situation at a client site, they're running 2003 AD, and have a few
terminal servers, one of which is still a Windows 2000 sp4 server.  Looks
like the local security policy of 'log on locally' is being over ridden by a
global policy but I don't see it.  The effective setting is greyed out empty
for non-administrator users, even though the local setting is checked.
 
Anyone run into this before ?  The global deny log on local is not defined,
so that's not it...
 
Thanks


 


 


 


 

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RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local

[Webb, Brian (Corp)]

Use RSOP from GPMC and see what is really applying.  I'm guessing you
have a policy applying that you don't know about.
 
-Brian

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon
local


nope, tried gpresult but that has to be with the user *after* they're
logged in... 



From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon
local


Did you run a RSOP against the machine with the user want to be able to
log in?
 
-Brian

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Weird situation at a client site, they're running 2003 AD, and have a
few terminal servers, one of which is still a Windows 2000 sp4 server.
Looks like the local security policy of 'log on locally' is being over
ridden by a global policy but I don't see it.  The effective setting is
greyed out empty for non-administrator users, even though the local
setting is checked.
 
Anyone run into this before ?  The global deny log on local is not
defined, so that's not it...
 
Thanks


 

 


 

 

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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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9/26/2008 7:35 AM



 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local

[Erik Goldoff]

nope, tried gpresult but that has to be with the user *after* they're logged
in... 

  _  

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Did you run a RSOP against the machine with the user want to be able to log
in?
 
-Brian

 

  _  

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Weird situation at a client site, they're running 2003 AD, and have a few
terminal servers, one of which is still a Windows 2000 sp4 server.  Looks
like the local security policy of 'log on locally' is being over ridden by a
global policy but I don't see it.  The effective setting is greyed out empty
for non-administrator users, even though the local setting is checked.
 
Anyone run into this before ?  The global deny log on local is not defined,
so that's not it...
 
Thanks


 


 


 


 

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RE: Directory permissions black magic

[James Winzenz]

Creator/Owner is by default granted full control, unless you explicitly
remove it.

Thanks,

James Winzenz
Infrastructure Engineer - Security
Pulte Homes Information Services


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:10 AM
Posted To: NTSysadmin
Conversation: Directory permissions black magic
Subject: Directory permissions black magic

I've been reviewing permissions in staff home directories on our file
server, and found something that I haven't been able to figure out.

Home directories are on h:, connected to \\fileserver\home\username

Permissions on that directory for each user are Full Control for
admins, Change for the user.

The weird part is that I am frequently seeing Full Control on
subdirectories - \\fileserver\home\username\project

How the heck is that happening? They are only writing/copying files
from their workstations.

Thoughts?

Kurt

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RE: Startup / Logon script issues

[Carl Houseman]

Thanks Bob - meanwhile the plot has thickened.  On another machine, the
opposite behavior occurs - the desktop doesn't appear even after the login
script has completed!
 
What effect does "always wait..." have on laptops that might not have any
network connection at all when booted?
 
I'd really rather solve the problem of making this work as a startup script.
 
Carl

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From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Startup / Logon script issues



> What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not
being effective?  

 

Is "Always wait for the network at computer startup and logon" enabled?  The
logon performance enhancements in XP can present the desktop despite the
synchronous setting. The always wait policy is said to disable Fast Logon
Optimization feature. There's a MSKB article about it.

 

 

This is something I saw that's related and also a possibility but I never
looked into it- http://www.gpanswers.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=7099

 

 

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Startup / Logon script issues

 

Two questions:

 

What could prevent a computer startup script from continuing until a user
logs in?  I know that it starts before the user logs in, but it hangs and
eventually times out unless the user logs in.  I also know it isn't network
access, at least not obviously.  The script is able to write a file on an
Everyone-writable share before the user logs in.

 

What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not being
effective?   I have verified that the setting is in effect with RSOP.  The
desktop is shown without any apparent delay, meanwhile the script takes up
to 2 minutes to complete.  From timestamps written at start and end of the
script, I know that the logon script has not exited until long after the
desktop is displayed.

 

The same script is in play for both of the above questions - obviously I am
trying to complete the script before the user has control of the computer.
The script is a .cmd file that in turn cscript's a .vbs file located on a
network share.

 

thanks all,

Carl

 

 

 


 


 


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~   ~

RE: $700B?

[Free, Bob]

Thanks. I'll have a look. Eye-openers are always welcome J

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

Well, if we're going to start referencing other sites, may I suggest
c-span.org's Q & A.  About two weeks ago Brian Lamb interviewed Peter
Wallison on his research into Fannie Mae.  It was disgusting to see how
inter-twined finanace and politics are.  Good eye-opener.

BTW, I've heard many say that it would be even worse if Paulson weren't
Treasury Secretary in that he understands the market better than most.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local

[Webb, Brian (Corp)]

Did you run a RSOP against the machine with the user want to be able to
log in?
 
-Brian

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local


Weird situation at a client site, they're running 2003 AD, and have a
few terminal servers, one of which is still a Windows 2000 sp4 server.
Looks like the local security policy of 'log on locally' is being over
ridden by a global policy but I don't see it.  The effective setting is
greyed out empty for non-administrator users, even though the local
setting is checked.
 
Anyone run into this before ?  The global deny log on local is not
defined, so that's not it...
 
Thanks


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Startup / Logon script issues

[Free, Bob]

> What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not
being effective?  

 

Is "Always wait for the network at computer startup and logon" enabled?
The logon performance enhancements in XP can present the desktop despite
the synchronous setting. The always wait policy is said to disable Fast
Logon Optimization feature. There's a MSKB article about it.

 

 

This is something I saw that's related and also a possibility but I
never looked into it-
http://www.gpanswers.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=7099

 

 

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Startup / Logon script issues

 

Two questions:

 

What could prevent a computer startup script from continuing until a
user logs in?  I know that it starts before the user logs in, but it
hangs and eventually times out unless the user logs in.  I also know it
isn't network access, at least not obviously.  The script is able to
write a file on an Everyone-writable share before the user logs in.

 

What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not
being effective?   I have verified that the setting is in effect with
RSOP.  The desktop is shown without any apparent delay, meanwhile the
script takes up to 2 minutes to complete.  From timestamps written at
start and end of the script, I know that the logon script has not exited
until long after the desktop is displayed.

 

The same script is in play for both of the above questions - obviously I
am trying to complete the script before the user has control of the
computer.   The script is a .cmd file that in turn cscript's a .vbs file
located on a network share.

 

thanks all,

Carl

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

2000 Terminal Server in 2003 domain not allowing logon local

[Erik Goldoff]

Weird situation at a client site, they're running 2003 AD, and have a few
terminal servers, one of which is still a Windows 2000 sp4 server.  Looks
like the local security policy of 'log on locally' is being over ridden by a
global policy but I don't see it.  The effective setting is greyed out empty
for non-administrator users, even though the local setting is checked.
 
Anyone run into this before ?  The global deny log on local is not defined,
so that's not it...
 
Thanks

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: WebBased FTP Solution

[Jeff Wilhelm]

We like the Globalscape one as well here. Also have been testing the
Ipswitch web module for WS_FTP server and it's worked well also.

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WebBased FTP Solution

 

Look into Globalscape options, its much more secure and they do have a
web-interface fronted. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

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From: helpdesk UK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WebBased FTP Solution

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Directory permissions black magic

[Kurt Buff]

I've been reviewing permissions in staff home directories on our file
server, and found something that I haven't been able to figure out.

Home directories are on h:, connected to \\fileserver\home\username

Permissions on that directory for each user are Full Control for
admins, Change for the user.

The weird part is that I am frequently seeing Full Control on
subdirectories - \\fileserver\home\username\project

How the heck is that happening? They are only writing/copying files
from their workstations.

Thoughts?

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: $700B?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I've never understood how that is never mind tolerated, but even allowed.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Chinnery, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Finally, what bothers me is all those Congressmen looking at all those
> dollars and thinking, "My  constituents> could use some of that.  How about we just tack on a few more
> billion."  And all of a sudden, when the bill is signed, it's $100 billion
> more.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
>
> I get that background, but I've not heard anyone reliable say that Paulson
> is actually a shady character. I've heard vague accusations that he's only
> doing this to bail out his buddies, but no evidence to indicate that that's
> truly his type of personality. It would take a horrible person to gamble
> with $700 billion in taxpayer money just to profit his cronies. I'm not
> saying such people don't exist—only that by all accounts, Paulson isn't one
> of them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
>
>
>
> As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I'd
> seriously look at Paulson's history before I said that I trust him….I'm with
> John, I clearly don't understand it all but the bi-partisan resistance is
> noteworthy…
>
>
>
> Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other night
> that was rather illuminating….granted it's slanted to the left but facts are
> facts
>
>
>
> "I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was appointed to
> the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence, because I think it's
> all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This is from BusinessWeek, when he
> got the appointment as Treasury Secretary in 2006. The headline of the
> article is "Mr. Risk Goes to Washington." It says, "Think of Paulson as Mr.
> Risk. He's one of the key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where
> securities firms are taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit
> of profits. By some key measures, the securities industry is more leveraged
> now than it was at the height of the 1990s boom."
>
>
> Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 1999,
> they had $20 billion in debts. When he—in these high-risk gambles. When he
> left, they had $100 billion, which means he took their risk level from $20
> billion to $100 billion. So it is absolutely no exaggeration to say that
> Henry Paulson, far from speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out
> his colleagues for some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This
> is an extraordinary conflict of interest."
>
>
>
> After I heard that, I went and read the actual article-
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm
>
>
>
> Scary stuff….seems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to me.
>
>
>
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming… J
>
>
>
>
>
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
>
>
>
> I will say this… It's a complex issue, and there are few who truly
> understand it. I'm not one of those few.
>
>
>
> Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not Jimmy). I've
> gotta say, I'm leaning towards trusting their judgment on this.
>
>
>
> From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: $700B?
>
>
>
> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and
> non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a
> check instead.  Shutting up now.
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the
> bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
>
>
>
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: $700B?
>
>
>
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
> over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
>
>
>
> -Z.V.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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RE: $700B?

[Chinnery, Paul]

Finally, what bothers me is all those Congressmen looking at all those dollars 
and thinking, "My  could use 
some of that.  How about we just tack on a few more billion."  And all of a 
sudden, when the bill is signed, it's $100 billion more.

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?



I get that background, but I've not heard anyone reliable say that Paulson is 
actually a shady character. I've heard vague accusations that he's only doing 
this to bail out his buddies, but no evidence to indicate that that's truly his 
type of personality. It would take a horrible person to gamble with $700 
billion in taxpayer money just to profit his cronies. I'm not saying such 
people don't exist-only that by all accounts, Paulson isn't one of them.

 

 

 

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I'd seriously 
look at Paulson's history before I said that I trust himI'm with John, I 
clearly don't understand it all but the bi-partisan resistance is noteworthy...

 

Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other night that 
was rather illuminatinggranted it's slanted to the left but facts are facts

 

"I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was appointed to 
the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence, because I think it's 
all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This is from BusinessWeek, when he got 
the appointment as Treasury Secretary in 2006. The headline of the article is 
"Mr. Risk Goes to Washington." It says, "Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He's one 
of the key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where securities firms are 
taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit of profits. By some key 
measures, the securities industry is more leveraged now than it was at the 
height of the 1990s boom." 


Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 1999, they 
had $20 billion in debts. When he-in these high-risk gambles. When he left, 
they had $100 billion, which means he took their risk level from $20 billion to 
$100 billion. So it is absolutely no exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, 
far from speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for 
some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This is an extraordinary 
conflict of interest."

 

After I heard that, I went and read the actual article- 
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm

 

Scary stuffseems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to me.

 

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming... J

 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

I will say this... It's a complex issue, and there are few who truly understand 
it. I'm not one of those few.

 

Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not Jimmy). I've 
gotta say, I'm leaning towards trusting their judgment on this.

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 

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RE: $700B?

[John Hornbuckle]

I get that background, but I've not heard anyone reliable say that Paulson is 
actually a shady character. I've heard vague accusations that he's only doing 
this to bail out his buddies, but no evidence to indicate that that's truly his 
type of personality. It would take a horrible person to gamble with $700 
billion in taxpayer money just to profit his cronies. I'm not saying such 
people don't exist-only that by all accounts, Paulson isn't one of them.




From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I'd seriously 
look at Paulson's history before I said that I trust himI'm with John, I 
clearly don't understand it all but the bi-partisan resistance is noteworthy...

Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other night that 
was rather illuminatinggranted it's slanted to the left but facts are facts

"I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was appointed to 
the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence, because I think it's 
all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This is from BusinessWeek, when he got 
the appointment as Treasury Secretary in 2006. The headline of the article is 
"Mr. Risk Goes to Washington." It says, "Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He's one 
of the key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where securities firms are 
taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit of profits. By some key 
measures, the securities industry is more leveraged now than it was at the 
height of the 1990s boom."


Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 1999, they 
had $20 billion in debts. When he-in these high-risk gambles. When he left, 
they had $100 billion, which means he took their risk level from $20 billion to 
$100 billion. So it is absolutely no exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, 
far from speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for 
some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This is an extraordinary 
conflict of interest."

After I heard that, I went and read the actual article- 
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm

Scary stuffseems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to me.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming... :)


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

I will say this... It's a complex issue, and there are few who truly understand 
it. I'm not one of those few.

Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not Jimmy). I've 
gotta say, I'm leaning towards trusting their judgment on this.

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :)



From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: $700B?



This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.



-Z.V.









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RE: $700B?

[Michael . Leone]

"Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 01:21:05 PM:

> > I'm probably a tad bit older than some of you posters, but I 
> clearly remember the S & L scandal
> 
> It?s a good time to remember it and it?s actually getting some play 
> again these days?.hmmm?I wonder why?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_Loan_crisis

I for sure remember it, as I worked for an S&L for 8 years (86-94). We 
were taken over by the RTC, and sold off to another bank, who bought only 
the accounts and the branches, and closed down us back office folks .. 
We'd been in business almost 130 years, at that point, too ... 


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Re: Windows 98 question.

[Klint Price - ArizonaITPro]

If money is an issue, do him a favor and install Linux.  I bet Wine 
would run all his old apps.

Check autoexec.bat and config.sys

IIRC, all you have to do is put "WIN", and it should start up.

Klint


Todd Lemmiksoo wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, 
> C: prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch 
> from WIN.COM without any effect.
>
> I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker.
>
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RE: $700B?

[Chinnery, Paul]

Because once again Wall Streeters forgot simply economics. Don't lend money to 
people who can't pay it back.  Greed blinded them to that simple axiom.
But let's be careful with the Keating 5 ref to McCain (not that I'm supporting 
him).  He met once and the only reason he got listed was the Dems had 4 
Senators with dirty hands but no Rep so the Dems scrambled to get at least 1 
Rep involved.

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?



> I'm probably a tad bit older than some of you posters, but I clearly remember 
> the S & L scandal

 

It's a good time to remember it and it's actually getting some play again these 
dayshmmm...I wonder why...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_Loan_crisis

 

 

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

1. You're assuming the gov won't be paid back.  I'm probably a tad bit older 
than some of you posters, but I clearly remember the S & L scandal (along with 
insider trading, junks bonds) in the 80's  Back then, some wags had predicted 
it was going to cost close a trillion dollars.  It actually only cost around 
$175B.

2. Right, everybody gets 2 g's.  There's goes the inflation rate sky high.  
(Not that I'd turn it down, mind you.)

-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 

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RE: $700B?

[Free, Bob]

I think you nailed it before, at least partially. I'd trust Warren Buffett's 
judgment far more than the politicos. Jimmy does pretty well for himself too in 
a different way :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

Well, perhaps it would be better to trust the judgement of Buffett's 
(Jimmy this time) after all  :0
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"Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 12:10:21 PM:

> As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I’d 
> seriously look at Paulson’s history before I said that I trust him….
> I’m with John, I clearly don’t understand it all but the bi-partisan
> resistance is noteworthy…
> 
> Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other 
> night that was rather illuminating….granted it’s slanted to the left
> but facts are facts
> 
> “I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was 
> appointed to the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence,
> because I think it’s all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This 
> is from BusinessWeek, when he got the appointment as Treasury 
> Secretary in 2006. The headline of the article is “Mr. Risk Goes to 
> Washington.” It says, “Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He’s one of the
> key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where securities firms 
> are taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit of 
> profits. By some key measures, the securities industry is more 
> leveraged now than it was at the height of the 1990s boom.” 
> 
> 
> Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 
> 1999, they had $20 billion in debts. When he—in these high-risk 
> gambles. When he left, they had $100 billion, which means he took 
> their risk level from $20 billion to $100 billion. So it is 
> absolutely no exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, far from 
> speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for
> some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This is an 
> extraordinary conflict of interest.”
> 
> After I heard that, I went and read the actual article- http://www.
> businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm
> 
> Scary stuff….seems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to me.
> 
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming… J
> 
> 
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
> 
> I will say this… It’s a complex issue, and there are few who truly 
> understand it. I’m not one of those few.
> 
> Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not 
> Jimmy). I’ve gotta say, I’m leaning towards trusting their judgment on 
this.
> 
> From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: $700B?
> 
> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident 
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How 
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
> 
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B? 
> 
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting 
> to take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
> 
> -Z.V.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: $700B?

[Free, Bob]

> I'm probably a tad bit older than some of you posters, but I clearly
remember the S & L scandal

 

It's a good time to remember it and it's actually getting some play
again these dayshmmm...I wonder why...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_Loan_crisis

 

 

 

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

1. You're assuming the gov won't be paid back.  I'm probably a tad bit
older than some of you posters, but I clearly remember the S & L scandal
(along with insider trading, junks bonds) in the 80's  Back then, some
wags had predicted it was going to cost close a trillion dollars.  It
actually only cost around $175B.

2. Right, everybody gets 2 g's.  There's goes the inflation rate sky
high.  (Not that I'd turn it down, mind you.)

-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident
(legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout
sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and
start at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for
wanting to take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 



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RE: $700B?

[Chinnery, Paul]

Well, if we're going to start referencing other sites, may I suggest 
c-span.org's Q & A.  About two weeks ago Brian Lamb interviewed Peter Wallison 
on his research into Fannie Mae.  It was disgusting to see how inter-twined 
finanace and politics are.  Good eye-opener.
BTW, I've heard many say that it would be even worse if Paulson weren't 
Treasury Secretary in that he understands the market better than most.

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?



As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I'd seriously 
look at Paulson's history before I said that I trust himI'm with John, I 
clearly don't understand it all but the bi-partisan resistance is noteworthy...

 

Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other night that 
was rather illuminatinggranted it's slanted to the left but facts are facts

 

"I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was appointed to 
the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence, because I think it's 
all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This is from BusinessWeek, when he got 
the appointment as Treasury Secretary in 2006. The headline of the article is 
"Mr. Risk Goes to Washington." It says, "Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He's one 
of the key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where securities firms are 
taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit of profits. By some key 
measures, the securities industry is more leveraged now than it was at the 
height of the 1990s boom." 


Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 1999, they 
had $20 billion in debts. When he-in these high-risk gambles. When he left, 
they had $100 billion, which means he took their risk level from $20 billion to 
$100 billion. So it is absolutely no exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, 
far from speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for 
some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This is an extraordinary 
conflict of interest."

 

After I heard that, I went and read the actual article- 
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm

 

Scary stuffseems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to me.

 

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming... J

 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

I will say this... It's a complex issue, and there are few who truly understand 
it. I'm not one of those few.

 

Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not Jimmy). I've 
gotta say, I'm leaning towards trusting their judgment on this.

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 

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RE: $700B?

[RichardMcClary]

Well, perhaps it would be better to trust the judgement of Buffett's 
(Jimmy this time) after all  :0
--
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ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
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"Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 12:10:21 PM:

> As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I’d 
> seriously look at Paulson’s history before I said that I trust him….
> I’m with John, I clearly don’t understand it all but the bi-partisan
> resistance is noteworthy…
> 
> Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other 
> night that was rather illuminating….granted it’s slanted to the left
> but facts are facts
> 
> “I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was 
> appointed to the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence,
> because I think it’s all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This 
> is from BusinessWeek, when he got the appointment as Treasury 
> Secretary in 2006. The headline of the article is “Mr. Risk Goes to 
> Washington.” It says, “Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He’s one of the
> key architects of a more daring Wall Street, where securities firms 
> are taking greater and greater chances in [their] pursuit of 
> profits. By some key measures, the securities industry is more 
> leveraged now than it was at the height of the 1990s boom.” 
> 
> 
> Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in 
> 1999, they had $20 billion in debts. When he—in these high-risk 
> gambles. When he left, they had $100 billion, which means he took 
> their risk level from $20 billion to $100 billion. So it is 
> absolutely no exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, far from 
> speaking for Main Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for
> some of the very debts that he himself accumulated. This is an 
> extraordinary conflict of interest.”
> 
> After I heard that, I went and read the actual article- http://www.
> businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm
> 
> Scary stuff….seems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to me.
> 
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming… J
> 
> 
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: $700B?
> 
> I will say this… It’s a complex issue, and there are few who truly 
> understand it. I’m not one of those few.
> 
> Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not 
> Jimmy). I’ve gotta say, I’m leaning towards trusting their judgment on 
this.
> 
> From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: $700B?
> 
> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident 
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How 
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
> 
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B? 
> 
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting 
> to take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
> 
> -Z.V.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Devin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Free, Bob]

LOL, remember when it was common here to say "I deaned the list for the
last week" 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

 

I long ago went to permanently deleting messages from the list and if I
get too far behind I just delete everything but the last day or so and
start from there.

 

-Brian

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations


"Webb, Brian (Corp)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/25/2008
04:20:43 PM:

> I think I joined the list in late '98 or early '99 - but I may not
count
> as a regular since I don't spend more than a few minutes a day on
it... 

I probably signed up originally around 2000 or so ... and there are a
lot of days I just can't get to look at the list. At the moment, I have
something like 15K unread messages in my list folder  

> 
> 
> -Brian
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations
> 
> I think I first joined in 98. Micheal E & Kurt were here then, don't
see
> too many other regulars from that time frame.
> 
> I was 39 for the 5th time then :-) 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[Free, Bob]

As long as the list is going tilt today much like our finances, I'd
seriously look at Paulson's history before I said that I trust
himI'm with John, I clearly don't understand it all but the
bi-partisan resistance is noteworthy...

 

Excerpt from a transcript of a public radio show I heard the other night
that was rather illuminatinggranted it's slanted to the left but
facts are facts

 

"I found this article in BusinessWeek that ran when Paulson was
appointed to the Treasury, and I just want to read you one sentence,
because I think it's all we need to know about Henry Paulson. This is
from BusinessWeek, when he got the appointment as Treasury Secretary in
2006. The headline of the article is "Mr. Risk Goes to Washington." It
says, "Think of Paulson as Mr. Risk. He's one of the key architects of a
more daring Wall Street, where securities firms are taking greater and
greater chances in [their] pursuit of profits. By some key measures, the
securities industry is more leveraged now than it was at the height of
the 1990s boom." 


Then it goes on to say that when Paulson took over Goldman Sachs in
1999, they had $20 billion in debts. When he-in these high-risk gambles.
When he left, they had $100 billion, which means he took their risk
level from $20 billion to $100 billion. So it is absolutely no
exaggeration to say that Henry Paulson, far from speaking for Main
Street, is actually bailing out his colleagues for some of the very
debts that he himself accumulated. This is an extraordinary conflict of
interest."

 

After I heard that, I went and read the actual article-
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_24/b3988001.htm

 

Scary stuffseems like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse to
me.

 

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming... J

 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

I will say this... It's a complex issue, and there are few who truly
understand it. I'm not one of those few.

 

Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not Jimmy).
I've gotta say, I'm leaning towards trusting their judgment on this.

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal
and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending
US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at
the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to
take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 



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RE: 2008 Server mailing list

[Michael B. Smith]

This one is as good as any and has more volume than most. There is also a 
Windows2008 Yahoo group, but it gets little volume.

 

Ask away.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Vojin Urosevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2008 Server mailing list

 

Does anybody know of a Windows 2008 specific high volume mailing list?

V.U 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

2008 Server mailing list

[Vojin Urosevic]

Does anybody know of a Windows 2008 specific high volume mailing list?

V.U

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~   ~

Re: $700B?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Watch Bladerunner again.  It makes you think about how things might
have become that way - a little bit differently from having seen it 4+
years ago.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, like how they already back 95% of all Americans credit card debt
> too.   Sweet...  Not.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: $700B?
>
> AFAIK actually financed in the back-end by China.  We are in the hole
> with them in a huuuge way.
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Come on guys and gals, it is just money! :)
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: $700B?
>>>
>>> Yes, on the whole Preparation H feels good when paid for with seven
>>> hundred BILLION dollars..
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:41 AM, John Hornbuckle
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > I can hear Dr. Evil now. "Seven HUNdred BILLion dollars!"
>>> >
>>> > It's to fund the Alan Parsons Project and Preparation H.
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ME2
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>




-- 
ME2

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[Sam Cayze]

Yeah, like how they already back 95% of all Americans credit card debt
too.   Sweet...  Not.



-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

AFAIK actually financed in the back-end by China.  We are in the hole
with them in a huuuge way.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Come on guys and gals, it is just money! :)
>
>
> Webster
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: $700B?
>>
>> Yes, on the whole Preparation H feels good when paid for with seven
>> hundred BILLION dollars..
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:41 AM, John Hornbuckle
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I can hear Dr. Evil now. "Seven HUNdred BILLion dollars!"
>> >
>> > It's to fund the Alan Parsons Project and Preparation H.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>




-- 
ME2

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: $700B?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

AFAIK actually financed in the back-end by China.  We are in the hole
with them in a huuuge way.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Come on guys and gals, it is just money! :)
>
>
> Webster
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: $700B?
>>
>> Yes, on the whole Preparation H feels good when paid for with seven
>> hundred BILLION dollars..
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:41 AM, John Hornbuckle
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I can hear Dr. Evil now. "Seven HUNdred BILLion dollars!"
>> >
>> > It's to fund the Alan Parsons Project and Preparation H.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>




-- 
ME2

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Print server upgrade to 2008

[Jim Dandy]

I'd like to upgrade my print server from 2003 to 2008 so I can load
64-bit drivers.  Will the following procedure cause any problems?

1) Build a 2008 server and recreate all the print queues on my present
print server including using the same queue and share names.
2) Take the old print server down and rename the 2008 print server to
have the same name as the old print server.

It's my understanding that, if the drivers aren't the exact same version
on the clients as are on the print server they will be updated to the
same drivers as on the server.  Is that true?  My users would not be
logging on with Admin privileges.

Thanks for your help.

Curt Finley

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[NTSysAdmin]

Watch that space$700B will not be enough...Tip of the iceberg. Your 
government is out of control...

S

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

I would argue that "the rascals" include not only greedy lenders, but also 
greedy borrowers. These folks just couldn't stand to live in a modest home, so 
they bought more than they could afford in an effort to keep up with the 
Joneses.

Shame on me, but I feel a little good that it has come back to bite them in the 
butt. My wife and I bought a modest home. When we were in the market, we 
calculated our payment ability based on just one of our incomes--not both. This 
was so we could afford to make the payments if one of us ended up out of work. 
We also stayed far away from ARMs and interest-only loans.

All the while, I watched people in our age and income brackets building nice, 
big new houses. And yes, I'll admit to a bit of envy. Now, though, I'm mostly 
just relaxing. The economy sucks, but I can still make my mortgage payment 
every month. And if my wife or I lose our job, I'll *still* be able to make the 
payment every month.






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were, I'd
not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still have a
substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince $30k/yr
folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1% interest,
and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're told it's an
ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry - houses are going up
in value; they can re-finance against the increased value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only $3.50".
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest farmland
for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and put
them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major financial
institution in the world because what actually happened was never
considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who would
buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house, and these
new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply far excedes
demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700, their
$350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.  Folks
default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for not only
mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin losing
thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the interest rates
on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I could
sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no longer
there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation results
in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start
> at the bottom and

RE: $700B?

[John Hornbuckle]

I would argue that "the rascals" include not only greedy lenders, but also 
greedy borrowers. These folks just couldn't stand to live in a modest home, so 
they bought more than they could afford in an effort to keep up with the 
Joneses.

Shame on me, but I feel a little good that it has come back to bite them in the 
butt. My wife and I bought a modest home. When we were in the market, we 
calculated our payment ability based on just one of our incomes--not both. This 
was so we could afford to make the payments if one of us ended up out of work. 
We also stayed far away from ARMs and interest-only loans.

All the while, I watched people in our age and income brackets building nice, 
big new houses. And yes, I'll admit to a bit of envy. Now, though, I'm mostly 
just relaxing. The economy sucks, but I can still make my mortgage payment 
every month. And if my wife or I lose our job, I'll *still* be able to make the 
payment every month.






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were, I'd
not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still have a
substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince $30k/yr
folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1% interest,
and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're told it's an
ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry - houses are going up
in value; they can re-finance against the increased value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only $3.50".
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest farmland
for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and put
them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major financial
institution in the world because what actually happened was never
considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who would
buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house, and these
new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply far excedes
demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700, their
$350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.  Folks
default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for not only
mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin losing
thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the interest rates
on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I could
sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no longer
there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation results
in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
>
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B?
>
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting
> to take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan 

RE: Hard Drives for Dell Servers

[lists]

Big time user of refurbished Dells here and I have used virtually every
vendor of drive in PE 6800's with no issue. Obviously YMMV.

 

Cheers.

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard Drives for Dell Servers

 

I know someone who has ordered non-Dell drives and they have gotten
corrupted - not immediately but after a period of time.  Dell told him
you have to use Dell drives.  Dell used to sell the sled separately from
the drive but apparently you have to buy them together now because of
this problem.  I can't say this is absolutely true but he believes it
is.

 

Curt Finley

 

From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hard Drives for Dell Servers

 

I have been tasked with finding the maximum capacity of drives that we
can put in some PowerEdge 6800's that we are going to be re-using.
Right now I have 146GB U320 drives in them.  I'm imagining that I should
be able to get 300GB U320's from Dell, but I'm looking to be able to
save some money on this.

Since the carrier for the Dell drives is really just a bezel as the
drives have an 80 pin SCA connection, should I be able to get away with
using any 80 pin SCA U320 drive?  Or is their some proprietary firmware
in the Dell drives that would prevent me from doing that?

Thanks in advance!

Joe Fox
Systems/Network Administrator

Mobile# (716) 846-9308
http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Startup / Logon script issues

[Carl Houseman]

Two questions:

 

What could prevent a computer startup script from continuing until a user
logs in?  I know that it starts before the user logs in, but it hangs and
eventually times out unless the user logs in.  I also know it isn't network
access, at least not obviously.  The script is able to write a file on an
Everyone-writable share before the user logs in.

 

What would cause the "run logon scripts synchronously" policy from not being
effective?   I have verified that the setting is in effect with RSOP.  The
desktop is shown without any apparent delay, meanwhile the script takes up
to 2 minutes to complete.  From timestamps written at start and end of the
script, I know that the logon script has not exited until long after the
desktop is displayed.

 

The same script is in play for both of the above questions - obviously I am
trying to complete the script before the user has control of the computer.
The script is a .cmd file that in turn cscript's a .vbs file located on a
network share.

 

thanks all,

Carl


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Hard Drives for Dell Servers

[Jim Dandy]

I know someone who has ordered non-Dell drives and they have gotten
corrupted - not immediately but after a period of time.  Dell told him
you have to use Dell drives.  Dell used to sell the sled separately from
the drive but apparently you have to buy them together now because of
this problem.  I can't say this is absolutely true but he believes it
is.

 

Curt Finley

 

From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hard Drives for Dell Servers

 

I have been tasked with finding the maximum capacity of drives that we
can put in some PowerEdge 6800's that we are going to be re-using.
Right now I have 146GB U320 drives in them.  I'm imagining that I should
be able to get 300GB U320's from Dell, but I'm looking to be able to
save some money on this.

Since the carrier for the Dell drives is really just a bezel as the
drives have an 80 pin SCA connection, should I be able to get away with
using any 80 pin SCA U320 drive?  Or is their some proprietary firmware
in the Dell drives that would prevent me from doing that?

Thanks in advance!

Joe Fox
Systems/Network Administrator

Mobile# (716) 846-9308
http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[John Hornbuckle]

Warren Buffett even posited that the gubment could earn 10% on the deal...



From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

1. You're assuming the gov won't be paid back.  I'm probably a tad bit older 
than some of you posters, but I clearly remember the S & L scandal (along with 
insider trading, junks bonds) in the 80's  Back then, some wags had predicted 
it was going to cost close a trillion dollars.  It actually only cost around 
$175B.
2. Right, everybody gets 2 g's.  There's goes the inflation rate sky high.  
(Not that I'd turn it down, mind you.)
-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?
700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :)



From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: $700B?



This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.



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RE: $700B?

[Ziots, Edward]

NO coincidence,  Yes a Military force can augment a police force, but
cannot serve in a police capacity, except in a national emergency. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

The US military has gone through a lot of crowd controlling in Iraq and
other foreign countries so now they are ready to come and do the same
thing..AT HOME.  For the first time an Army combat brigade will be
deploying DOMESTICALLY OCT. 1.   A coincidence?   Is this even
constitutional?

 

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

 

-Z.V.

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

I don't need to see 700B of our money going to frickin companies that
have been stealing from us the consumers for far too long. I say let
them crash and burn.. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

If this plan fails, can I write off my portion on my taxes?  Like a
capital gains loss? ;-)

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal
and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending
US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at
the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :-)

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to
take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 



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RE: $700B?

[Ziots, Edward]

Isnt that the truth, which is a lump of BS. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
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Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

Don't forget that you're still paying $350,000 worth of real estate
taxes on a house that's only worth $175,000 now. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were,
I'd not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still
have a substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and
CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince
$30k/yr folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1%
interest, and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're
told it's an ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry -
houses are going up in value; they can re-finance against the increased
value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only
$3.50". 
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest
farmland for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and
put them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major
financial institution in the world because what actually happened was
never considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who
would buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house,
and these new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply
far excedes demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700,
their $350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.
Folks default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for
not only mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin
losing thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the
interest rates on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I
could sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no
longer there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation
results in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal 
> and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout 
> sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start 
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
> 
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B? 
> 
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to 
> take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
> 
> -Z.V.
> 
> 
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RE: $700B?

[Chinnery, Paul]

Perfectly constitutional. There is no where in the constitution that prohibits. 
 The only thing close is that it would be against the law for the army to 
demand you house their soldiers.  

-Original Message-
From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?



The US military has gone through a lot of crowd controlling in Iraq and other 
foreign countries so now they are ready to come and do the same thing..AT HOME. 
 For the first time an Army combat brigade will be deploying DOMESTICALLY OCT. 
1.   A coincidence?   Is this even constitutional?

 

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

 

-Z.V.

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

I don't need to see 700B of our money going to frickin companies that have been 
stealing from us the consumers for far too long. I say let them crash and 
burn.. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505


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From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

If this plan fails, can I write off my portion on my taxes?  Like a capital 
gains loss? ;-)

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :-)

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 


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RE: $700B?

[Chinnery, Paul]

1. You're assuming the gov won't be paid back.  I'm probably a tad bit older 
than some of you posters, but I clearly remember the S & L scandal (along with 
insider trading, junks bonds) in the 80's  Back then, some wags had predicted 
it was going to cost close a trillion dollars.  It actually only cost around 
$175B.
2. Right, everybody gets 2 g's.  There's goes the inflation rate sky high.  
(Not that I'd turn it down, mind you.)

-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?


700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.


On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 





 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 


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RE: Restoring old DC image

[Don Guyer]

If it's not the only DC, I'd blow it out and reload from scratch, then PROMO it 
and let it pick up a current copy of AD from the other controller(s).

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer

Information Services Department

Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Ph: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

www.prufoxroach.com http://www.prufoxroach.com/> 

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From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring old DC image

 

It's a DC at a branch office which is part of  the same domain as the main 
office.  Does that make a difference?

 

Ralph Smith

 



From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Restoring old DC image

 

If it is the only domain controller I suggest to change date and time to the pc 
and restore the image .Then change newly date and time with 30 days intervals

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 



Da: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 26 settembre 2008 17.26
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Restoring old DC image

 

I have a Windows 2003 domain controller at a branch office that I need to fix.  
I have an old image I can restore that is just over a year old.  I have last 
night's backup, but to my chagrin it doesn't include a system state backup.  

 

What would be my best course of action - can I just restore the image and let 
it get itself back up to date, should I demote it then promote it back to a DC, 
or are there any other problems I might have or steps I should take?

 

Thanks for any tips.

(And yes, I need to get by backup act together)

 

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RE: Restoring old DC image

[Free, Bob]

Don't even think about restoring a year old image. 

 

Demote/Promote is the only sensible course of action you have. You don't
specify enough about your environment to recommend further steps.

 

And I'm not trying to sound harsh but yes, you really need to get your
act together, especially if you are thinking about restoring old images
as DR for AD and don't understand the implications. There is a plethora
of good information on the net from simple DC or object restore to a
full forest recovery.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Restoring old DC image

 

 

I have a Windows 2003 domain controller at a branch office that I need
to fix.  I have an old image I can restore that is just over a year old.
I have last night's backup, but to my chagrin it doesn't include a
system state backup.  

 

What would be my best course of action - can I just restore the image
and let it get itself back up to date, should I demote it then promote
it back to a DC, or are there any other problems I might have or steps I
should take?

 

Thanks for any tips.

(And yes, I need to get by backup act together)

 

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RE: Restoring old DC image

[Ralph Smith]

It's a DC at a branch office which is part of  the same domain as the main 
office.  Does that make a difference?

 

Ralph Smith



 



From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Restoring old DC image

 

If it is the only domain controller I suggest to change date and time to the pc 
and restore the image .Then change newly date and time with 30 days intervals

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 



Da: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 26 settembre 2008 17.26
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Restoring old DC image

 

I have a Windows 2003 domain controller at a branch office that I need to fix.  
I have an old image I can restore that is just over a year old.  I have last 
night's backup, but to my chagrin it doesn't include a system state backup.  

 

What would be my best course of action - can I just restore the image and let 
it get itself back up to date, should I demote it then promote it back to a DC, 
or are there any other problems I might have or steps I should take?

 

Thanks for any tips.

(And yes, I need to get by backup act together)

 

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RE: $700B?

[Jacob]

In OC and Los Angeles county, you can get your house reappraised and send it
to the county office. They will readjust your property taxes.

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

Don't forget that you're still paying $350,000 worth of real estate
taxes on a house that's only worth $175,000 now. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were,
I'd not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still
have a substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and
CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince
$30k/yr folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1%
interest, and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're
told it's an ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry -
houses are going up in value; they can re-finance against the increased
value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only
$3.50". 
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest
farmland for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and
put them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major
financial institution in the world because what actually happened was
never considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who
would buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house,
and these new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply
far excedes demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700,
their $350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.
Folks default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for
not only mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin
losing thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the
interest rates on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I
could sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no
longer there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation
results in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal 
> and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout 
> sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start 
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
> 
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B? 
> 
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to 
> take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
> 
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R: Restoring old DC image

[HELP_PC]

If it is the only domain controller I suggest to change date and time to the pc 
and restore the image .Then change newly date and time with 30 days intervals
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

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Da: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 26 settembre 2008 17.26
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Restoring old DC image



 

I have a Windows 2003 domain controller at a branch office that I need to fix.  
I have an old image I can restore that is just over a year old.  I have last 
night's backup, but to my chagrin it doesn't include a system state backup.  

 

What would be my best course of action - can I just restore the image and let 
it get itself back up to date, should I demote it then promote it back to a DC, 
or are there any other problems I might have or steps I should take?

 

Thanks for any tips.

(And yes, I need to get by backup act together)

 

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Re: $700B?

[Jon Harris]

Agreed and yes make sure there is plenty of space in prison for them but not
any federal country club.  How about in some very poor state where they will
get treated worse.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Devin Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and
> non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a
> check instead.  Shutting up now.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>  I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at
>> the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* $700B?
>>
>>
>>
>> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
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>>
>>
>>
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RE: HP printer problem

[Glen Johnson]

Lil late here but just wanted to close this thread.

Deleted printer and queue.  Recreated with same IP, share name and queue
and all is well.

Strange that I've not had that happen with over a dozen printer
replacements then it happens twice in one week.

Thanks for the help.

Glen.

 

From: Kelsay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP printer problem

 

I have swapped printers before and just tried to update the driver and
ran into all sorts of issues.  I had to delete the printer and then
create a new one and just gave it the same share name.

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 September 2008 21:08
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HP printer problem

 

We just got a couple new HP 9040n printers to replace a couple 8150s.

I gave the jet direct card on the new printers, the IPs of the old
printers and without updating the driver software on the W2k3 server,
most documents printed ok, except I think some problems with PDFs.

Updated the server and then workstations with the 9040 pcl5e driver that
came with the printer and started getting 2 copies of everything
printed.

Updated the drivers on the server with the most recent ones from HP's
web site.

Still getting 2 copies.

Checked printer and it shows one copy on the settings, workstation and
server are both set for one copy.

Also updated the printer with the latest HP firmware.  No change.

Checked a held job in the queue and it showed one copy but printed 2.

Any ideas appreciated.

 

 

 

 


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RE: $700B?

[Vue, Za]

The US military has gone through a lot of crowd controlling in Iraq and other 
foreign countries so now they are ready to come and do the same thing..AT HOME. 
 For the first time an Army combat brigade will be deploying DOMESTICALLY OCT. 
1.   A coincidence?   Is this even constitutional?

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

-Z.V.


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

I don't need to see 700B of our money going to frickin companies that have been 
stealing from us the consumers for far too long. I say let them crash and burn..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

If this plan fails, can I write off my portion on my taxes?  Like a capital 
gains loss? ;-)

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :)



From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: $700B?



This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
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Restoring old DC image

[Ralph Smith]

 

I have a Windows 2003 domain controller at a branch office that I need
to fix.  I have an old image I can restore that is just over a year old.
I have last night's backup, but to my chagrin it doesn't include a
system state backup.  

 

What would be my best course of action - can I just restore the image
and let it get itself back up to date, should I demote it then promote
it back to a DC, or are there any other problems I might have or steps I
should take?

 

Thanks for any tips.

(And yes, I need to get by backup act together)

 

Ralph Smith 

 


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RE: $700B?

[N Parr]

Don't forget that you're still paying $350,000 worth of real estate
taxes on a house that's only worth $175,000 now. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were,
I'd not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still
have a substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and
CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince
$30k/yr folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1%
interest, and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're
told it's an ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry -
houses are going up in value; they can re-finance against the increased
value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only
$3.50". 
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest
farmland for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and
put them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major
financial institution in the world because what actually happened was
never considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who
would buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house,
and these new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply
far excedes demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700,
their $350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.
Folks default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for
not only mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin
losing thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the
interest rates on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I
could sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no
longer there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation
results in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal 
> and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout 
> sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start 
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
> 
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B? 
> 
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to 
> take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
> 
> -Z.V.
> 
> 
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RE: $700B?

[David Lum]

Nicely put Richard, as I am like John H " there are few who truly understand 
it. I'm not one of those few", this is a really good read, and I can understand 
what you wrote.

Nice job, I will be forwarding this...

Dave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were, I'd
not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still have a
substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince $30k/yr
folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1% interest,
and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're told it's an
ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry - houses are going up
in value; they can re-finance against the increased value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only $3.50".
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest farmland
for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and put
them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major financial
institution in the world because what actually happened was never
considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who would
buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house, and these
new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply far excedes
demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700, their
$350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.  Folks
default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for not only
mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant,
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin losing
thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the interest rates
on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I could
sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no longer
there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation results
in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
>
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B?
>
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting
> to take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
>
> -Z.V.
>
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RE: $700B?

[Ziots, Edward]

I don't need to see 700B of our money going to frickin companies that
have been stealing from us the consumers for far too long. I say let
them crash and burn.. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: $700B?

 

If this plan fails, can I write off my portion on my taxes?  Like a
capital gains loss? ;-)

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal
and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending
US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at
the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :-)

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to
take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 



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RE: usbstor.adm

[tgonzalez]

Carl, thanks for this information, I'm a little late since I'm
installing my first ever VM Environment which is a real learning
experience since I am an army of 1.

 

Thomas

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: usbstor.adm

 

Have you actually plugged in a USB mouse and seen it not work after the
policy is applied?

 

Where did you get your usbstor.inf?   The better solutions to this
problem don't affect non-storage USB devices.

 

e.g.

http://www.petri.co.il/disable_usb_disks_with_gpo.htm

 

Carl

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: usbstor.adm

 

I'm having a bit of a dilemma with the disabling of usb. I have
implemented the policy and it works, no problem there. However, of all
the laptops I have disabled the USB on, 6 of them use a usb mouse. So my
question is this, has anyone come across this scenario, do not want the
laptop users using their personal usb / flash drives, but need the usb
mouse to work.

 

 

TIA

 

Thomas Gonzalez

Technology Manager

Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas

210.349.2404 phone
210.403.1586 DID

210.349.2666 fax

www.girlscouts-swtx.org

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RE: $700B?

[Webster]

Come on guys and gals, it is just money! :)


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: $700B?
> 
> Yes, on the whole Preparation H feels good when paid for with seven
> hundred BILLION dollars..
> 
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:41 AM, John Hornbuckle
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can hear Dr. Evil now. "Seven HUNdred BILLion dollars!"
> >
> > It's to fund the Alan Parsons Project and Preparation H.


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Re: $700B?

[RichardMcClary]

Track down as many "loan officers" as possible and play grab ass-et with 
them!  (Hundred million $ bonuses/salaries for screwing up???)  Then 
disappear 'em to Gitmo...

Here's the thing.  Let's suppose I'm super wealthy.  (If I were, I'd 
not be a sysadmin!)  I pay cash for a new house and car.  I still have a 
substantial sum in mutual funds, money market accounts, and CDs...

Now, some hucksters come up with "creative financing" and convince $30k/yr 
folks they can take out a $350k loan.  It will be at, say, 1% interest, 
and their payment (wild guess here) is $350/month.  They're told it's an 
ARM, and the rate will go up a point.  Not to worry - houses are going up 
in value; they can re-finance against the increased value.

Well, the buyer thinks, "a 1% increase in my $350 payment is only $3.50". 
WRONG!  The "1% increase" means that 1% interest now becomes 2% - his 
payment doubles!

Meanwhile, other hucksters keep paving over the world's greatest farmland 
for more McMansions.

Other hucksters buy up all these sub-prime 1% loans, package them, and put 
them on the world market.  They're sold to dang near every major financial 
institution in the world because what actually happened was never 
considered...

SO, with all those McMansions, the population ran out of people who would 
buy them, so they sit empty.  Someone does want to buy a house, and these 
new empty structures have had their prices slashed - supply far excedes 
demand.

Meanwhile, this drags down the value of any and all houses.  Those 
sub-primers find that, at the time their $350 payment becomes $700, their 
$350,000 McMansion is now worth only, say, $175,000 (but they owe 
$350,000).  They walk away (literally), so the house is now vacant.  Folks 
default on mortgages, so there is no more money to be lent (for not only 
mortgages but for business loans as well.)

Meanwhile, the house for which I paid cash has also gone way down in 
value.  If my neigbors are all moving out, leaving their houses vacant, 
then squatters or salvagers descend upon the neighborhood.  My house is 
now worth even less, and I am now in a high crime area.

Meanwhile, those bundles of mortgages everyone bought?  Well, they're 
pretty close to worthless now.  Consequently, my mutual funds begin losing 
thousands per month.  Banks are no longer lending, so the interest rates 
on my CDs and money markets approach nil.

So, as I approach "retirement age", my assets (the house I thought I could 
sell to move into a tiny place as well as my investments) are no longer 
there.  I obviously don't retire, but if the cash-flow situation results 
in my company folding (and me out of work), ...?

Note that although the USA is most deeply affected, the fact that these 
bad mortgage packages were sold world-wide affects the economies in the 
rest of the world as well.

So, although it might seem satisfying to "let the rascals rot", the 
situation is going to take down everybody unless some action (preferably 
the correct action!) is taken.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident 
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How 
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start
> at the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
> 
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B? 
> 
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting 
> to take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
> 
> -Z.V.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: $700B?

[Jacob]

If this plan fails, can I write off my portion on my taxes?  Like a capital
gains loss? ;-)

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a
check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 

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RE: WebBased FTP Solution

[Ziots, Edward]

Look into Globalscape options, its much more secure and they do have a
web-interface fronted. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



From: helpdesk UK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WebBased FTP Solution

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows 98 question.

[Todd Lemmiksoo]

Setting the BootGUI to 1 had no effect. The F5 booted in to the GUI in
safe mode.
 
Thanks All



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.



Are you trying to make it boot into DOS by default, or do you want it to
boot to the GUI? If the second, BootGUI should be set to 1.

 

More info here:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1056250.html

 

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

 

The line "dos=single" is not there. I had already changed the "BootGUI"
to zero.

Will try the F5 trick next.

 

 



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

At the dos prompt, take the system, hidden and read-only attributes off
of msdos.sys and edit it. It is a text file, and there should be a line
that says something like dos=single. 

Delete that line, save the file, put the attributes back on and reboot.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

 

Hit F5 at startup...

 

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 98 question.

 

Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, C:
prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch from
WIN.COM without any effect.

I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker. 

Todd Lemmiksoo 
Network Administrator 

All-Mode Communications, Inc. 
1725 Dryden Road 
Freeville, New York  13068 
(607) 347-4164 x440 
1-877-ALLMODE  (toll free) 
http://www.all-mode.com   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[Steve Kistenmacher]

Me too we all know what flows down stream

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a
check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: $700B? 

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 

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Re: $700B?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Yes, on the whole Preparation H feels good when paid for with seven
hundred BILLION dollars..

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:41 AM, John Hornbuckle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can hear Dr. Evil now… "Seven HUNdred BILLion dollars!"
>
> It's to fund the Alan Parsons Project and Preparation H.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> 318 North Clark Street
>
> Perry, FL 32347
>
>
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: $700B?
>
>
>
> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
> over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
>
>
>
> -Z.V.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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>
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>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows 98 question.

[Damien Solodow]

Are you trying to make it boot into DOS by default, or do you want it to
boot to the GUI? If the second, BootGUI should be set to 1.

 

More info here:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1056250.html

 

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

 

The line "dos=single" is not there. I had already changed the "BootGUI"
to zero.

Will try the F5 trick next.

 

 



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

At the dos prompt, take the system, hidden and read-only attributes off
of msdos.sys and edit it. It is a text file, and there should be a line
that says something like dos=single. 

Delete that line, save the file, put the attributes back on and reboot.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

 

Hit F5 at startup...

 

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 98 question.

 

Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, C:
prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch from
WIN.COM without any effect.

I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker. 

Todd Lemmiksoo 
Network Administrator 

All-Mode Communications, Inc. 
1725 Dryden Road 
Freeville, New York  13068 
(607) 347-4164 x440 
1-877-ALLMODE  (toll free) 
http://www.all-mode.com   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[Todd Lemmiksoo]

I think it should be $700B / 200M tax payers = $ in our pockets with
half going back to the IRS as income tax.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?



"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 10:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident 
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How 
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now. 

Well, some are crooks. More are just stupidly incompetant (as opposed to
intelligently incompetant, I suppose ...) and willfully blind. 



 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[John Hornbuckle]

I will say this... It's a complex issue, and there are few who truly understand 
it. I'm not one of those few.

Among those few are Bernanke, Paulson, and Buffett (Warren, not Jimmy). I've 
gotta say, I'm leaning towards trusting their judgment on this.






From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and 
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a check 
instead.  Shutting up now.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at the 
bottom and let 700b flow upwards. :)



From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: $700B?



This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take over 
Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.



-Z.V.









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~   ~

Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Its not an exact science unfortunately, as they do something to the
fields to make your searches very fuzzy.  But for instance, to catch
most "blog" related links, you can do this:

   Has the words: "blogs." OR "/blogs/"

This will catch all domains who's URL start with the subdomain of
"blogs.", as well as catch any domain URLs that have "/blogs/" in the
directory portion of the address.

For catching KB type article information, I do this:

   Has the words: "CTX??" OR "petri.co.il/" OR
"technet.microsoft.com/" OR "microsoft.com/kb/" OR "KB??"

Now as I said this isnt as exact a matching as you might want to
assume.  Google currently does not allow specific matching against
non-alphabetical text. But the text's placement next to eachother is
still good enough to get your the right matches.  In fuzzy searching,
I still implicitly trust Google to get it right in the end.

Also, I dont even think that the "KB??" is valid anymore, but I
havent had the time to bother with verifying that.  It doesn't break
anything still having it in there, so cest la vie.

HTH!

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Micheal Espinola Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008
> 10:27:27 AM:
>
>> I pretty much do the same, but I don't delete.  That way if I ever
>> have to search for something, its all there as a resource - earmarked
>> as important/relevant if its something I've already read.
>>
>> When I fall behind, I will just mark everything past a certain point as
>> read.
>>
>> Also, within Gmail, I have all sotrs of filters that apply additional
>> labels to messages automatically.  Like, if a thread contains KB links
>> or to blogs that I know will have *good* information in them.
>
> How do you set a GMail filter to examine the body of a message for a link? I
> presume it will include some sort of regex operation to identify those types
> of links?
>
>
>
>




-- 
ME2

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows 98 question.

[Todd Lemmiksoo]

The line "dos=single" is not there. I had already changed the "BootGUI"
to zero.
Will try the F5 trick next.
 



From: Damien Solodow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.



At the dos prompt, take the system, hidden and read-only attributes off
of msdos.sys and edit it. It is a text file, and there should be a line
that says something like dos=single. 

Delete that line, save the file, put the attributes back on and reboot.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

 

Hit F5 at startup...

 

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 98 question.

 

Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, C:
prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch from
WIN.COM without any effect.

I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker. 

Todd Lemmiksoo 
Network Administrator 

All-Mode Communications, Inc. 
1725 Dryden Road 
Freeville, New York  13068 
(607) 347-4164 x440 
1-877-ALLMODE  (toll free) 
http://www.all-mode.com   

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: $700B?

[Clayton Doige]

Going down the good old conspiracy theory route I tend to believe this
whole thing is engineered for the gain of a very very few already
wealthy individuals (watch what banks buy other banks in the coming
weeks for example). Your dollar will disappear and become the Amero
(same in Canada and Mexico), the free trade will open up between
nations, and cheap imports will flood into Mexico and head north without
the checks untaken in Canada and the US, wages will go down in those two
countries, while the cost of living will increase with the national
debts.

 

The whole financial system needs chucking out and a new one where
interest is not the prime mechanism needs to replace it (think about it,
interest represents money that never existed in the first place, so
where do you find the money to pay it back?)

 

/end_rant

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:35
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: $700B?

 


"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 10:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident 
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How 
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now. 

Well, some are crooks. More are just stupidly incompetant (as opposed to
intelligently incompetant, I suppose ...) and willfully blind. 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: $700B?

[Michael . Leone]

"Devin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 10:28:41 AM:

> 700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident 
> (legal and non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How 
> bout sending US a check instead.  Shutting up now.

Well, some are crooks. More are just stupidly incompetant (as opposed to 
intelligently incompetant, I suppose ...) and willfully blind.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Michael . Leone]

"Micheal Espinola Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 
10:27:27 AM:

> I pretty much do the same, but I don't delete.  That way if I ever
> have to search for something, its all there as a resource - earmarked
> as important/relevant if its something I've already read.
> 
> When I fall behind, I will just mark everything past a certain point as 
read.
> 
> Also, within Gmail, I have all sotrs of filters that apply additional
> labels to messages automatically.  Like, if a thread contains KB links
> or to blogs that I know will have *good* information in them.

How do you set a GMail filter to examine the body of a message for a link? 
I presume it will include some sort of regex operation to identify those 
types of links?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Windows 98 question.

[Damien Solodow]

At the dos prompt, take the system, hidden and read-only attributes off
of msdos.sys and edit it. It is a text file, and there should be a line
that says something like dos=single. 

Delete that line, save the file, put the attributes back on and reboot.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 98 question.

 

Hit F5 at startup...

 

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 98 question.

 

Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, C:
prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch from
WIN.COM without any effect.

I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker. 

Todd Lemmiksoo 
Network Administrator 

All-Mode Communications, Inc. 
1725 Dryden Road 
Freeville, New York  13068 
(607) 347-4164 x440 
1-877-ALLMODE  (toll free) 
http://www.all-mode.com   

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

WebBased FTP Solution

[helpdesk UK]

Hello,
I have been asked a question by one of our customers about a FTP solution.

Requirements are as follows:

They have 3 remote sites located in US & UK.

1. These sites should be allowed to upload data to FTP server using
a simply click and upload solution to there website.
2. The users should not require a lot of training and the GUI on the website
should be simple to use.
3. For example there IT manager thinks it should work like as followsthe
world can access there website using www.abc.com when they need to share
files between each other they simply to go a URL i.e. www.abc.com/ftp get a
page login and than they can upload a file and allow who can see it ad who
cannot simple as that...
4. They should be allowed to upload files
5. They should be allowed to delete only there own files.
6. The only confusion is how would permissions be assigned for relevant
files ??? as they can upload accounts / big drawings etc...

I was searching around and came accross this website but the product seems
very limited but is web based which is good...

http://www.ourwebftp.com/features.php

Can anyone shed some light on the possibilities on this...There current
website is hosted on a Linux solution if that helpsUsers can be created
on the website for FTP logins but they need the front end solution...

Thank you for all your help in advance.


cheers

Edward

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: $700B?

[Devin Meade]

700 Billion / 300 Million = $2,333.  Thats what every resident (legal and
non-legal) will be paying to bail out the crooks.  How bout sending US a
check instead.  Shutting up now.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at
> the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J
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> *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
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> *Subject:* $700B?
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> This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
> over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.
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> -Z.V.
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Re: External RAID HDD Enclosure Recomendations

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I pretty much do the same, but I don't delete.  That way if I ever
have to search for something, its all there as a resource - earmarked
as important/relevant if its something I've already read.

When I fall behind, I will just mark everything past a certain point as read.

Also, within Gmail, I have all sotrs of filters that apply additional
labels to messages automatically.  Like, if a thread contains KB links
or to blogs that I know will have *good* information in them.

Took a little while to setup properly, but it allows me to quickly
target where the "meat" of a thread is.


On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Webb, Brian (Corp)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 09:41:23
> AM:
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>> I long ago went to permanently deleting messages from the list and
>> if I get too far behind I just delete everything but the last day or
>> so and start from there.
>
> I flag the "important" messages (meaning the ones where I learn something
> new *and* useful :-)), and every so often, delete all the others. For
> example, someone posted a link and explanation about ABE (Access Based
> Enumeration). That post I flagged, as it will probably become useful to me.
> Most of the other stuff I just dump ...
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RE: Windows 98 question.

[David Lum]

Hit F5 at startup...

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 98 question.


Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, C: 
prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch from WIN.COM 
without any effect.

I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker.

Todd Lemmiksoo
Network Administrator

All-Mode Communications, Inc.
1725 Dryden Road
Freeville, New York  13068
(607) 347-4164 x440
1-877-ALLMODE  (toll free)
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Windows 98 question.

[Todd Lemmiksoo]

Does anyone remember how to get Windows 98 to not boot into DOS mode, C:
prompt. That is boot into the GUI. I have removed the /WX switch from
WIN.COM without any effect.

I am working on this machine as a favor for a co-worker.

Todd Lemmiksoo
Network Administrator

All-Mode Communications, Inc.
1725 Dryden Road
Freeville, New York  13068
(607) 347-4164 x440
1-877-ALLMODE  (toll free)
http://www.all-mode.com


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RE: $700B?

[Eldridge, Dave]

I like the idea going around to reverse the "trickle down" and start at
the bottom and let 700b flow upwards. J

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: $700B?

 

This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to
take over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

 

-Z.V.

 

 

 



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Profiles and GPOs in a TS/Citrix Environment

[Webster]

Just came across two useful articles.  Thought you other TS/Citrix people
out there might also find them useful:

 

http://www.unitek.com/training/citrix/blog/?p=6

 

http://www.unitek.com/training/citrix/blog/?p=21

 

 

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RE: $700B?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I think they need to make accommodations for those on Wall Street that are
responsible for this... at Leavenworth Prison!

-Mike

Original Message:
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From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:33:01 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: $700B?


This sounds more like a ransom from the master of evil for wanting to take
over Earth or a Lewis Farrakhan lawsuit.

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