Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc)
You hit your dog Leif (a wet macular degeneration victim) -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Only issue I had was when a direct light bounced off my cornea, a steady, heated beam would pierce through solid objects (including screens and keyboards). They'll teach you about non-direct looking. I learned quickly after the family dog took a hit. On 1/26/2011 6:38 PM, James Kerr wrote: I need to have this done in my right eye before its starts doing its own thing from not really getting used. Last time I tried to wear glasses it made me VERY sick and I decided not to wear them anymore. At least with glasses I could take them off and the sickness would wear off in a few hours. I guess if I do lasic I'm going to need an eye patch the relieve my brain from the stress of seeing normally. I'm thinking it will be a rough ride. James On 1/26/2011 8:35 AM, Garcia-Moran, Carlos wrote: I just got it done in December best money I've ever spent, after looking into prices and tech, I ended up going to Canada, it was $3500 minus $400 for being a US citizen, I got the Custom Wavefront bladeless which was the current best surgery and I can get it done a 2nd time if needed, The place I went LasikMD was recommended by two coworkers who had gotten it done there before. It guarantees 20/20 and the surgery I got covers all checkup's and 2nd surgery's if needed for life. Also I submitted to my bill for FSA reimbursement no problem since it's an approved expense even though it's outside of the country. I actively Kick box 3 times a week and do some swimming. You can't have direct trauma to the eyes for 3 months, outside of some dryness on my left eye, I can read at night with no issues. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Not athletically active, but had mine done with assistance from my FSA account 12 years ago. My eyesight beforehand was 20/400 in one eye, and 20/425 in the other. It cost $2k/eye. I gulped hard and did it. Afterward, it was 20/20 both eyes. I am so very glad I did it. Of course, I instantly needed reading glasses, (I was over 40 at that point) but being able to see the road signs while being driven home from the operation brought more tears to my eyes than could be accounted for by the operation. I got it done on a Friday, and by Monday was good to go, and have always told folks who ask that I would do it again in a heartbeat. I was a practice patient - the surgeon who performed it was at the time the president of the board of ophthalmology for WA STate, but was being proctored for this procedure by someone. He is/was an amazing doctor, who performed RK on my then-wife a few years earlier and worked a near miracle for her as well. I say, ask a couple of ophthalmologists who don't perform this particular procedure who they would choose if they had to get it done, and see what they have to say. Kurt On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:34, Raper, Jonathan - Eaglejra...@eaglemds.com wrote: I'm considering Lasik for my left eye (my right eye is 20/12 uncorrected - I have an astigmatism in my left eye). I've heard great stories, and I've read about not so great experiences. One of my co-workers had Lasik (by the same surgeon who would do my procedure) 8 years ago and claims zero regrets and no long term ill effects. I probably wouldn't do it, because for me it would be a luxury, but I'm positioned to lose up to $2,600 that I have siting in a Flexible Spending Account if it isn't used by March 31 of this year (I checked, and even though the plan was for last 2010, my plan has a grace period that allows for Date of Service until March 31, 2011). The surgeon I'm considering is Karl Stonecipher, who claims having done well over 50,000 procedures. So, any stories, good, bad, or otherwise are welcome. I'm particularly interested in any stories for anyone who is athletically active. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of
Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
This is good info. Keep it coming, guys! Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. On Jan 27, 2011 6:27 AM, Stephen Wimberly riverside...@gmail.com wrote: Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
Put the Windows install files on a bootable USB flash drive. Much faster than DVD drives, too. -Malcolm From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:riverside...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 05:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc)
You might check Eye-Mart and pick up a pair of ruby quartz glasses. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Only issue I had was when a direct light bounced off my cornea, a steady, heated beam would pierce through solid objects (including screens and keyboards). They'll teach you about non-direct looking. I learned quickly after the family dog took a hit. On 1/26/2011 6:38 PM, James Kerr wrote: I need to have this done in my right eye before its starts doing its own thing from not really getting used. Last time I tried to wear glasses it made me VERY sick and I decided not to wear them anymore. At least with glasses I could take them off and the sickness would wear off in a few hours. I guess if I do lasic I'm going to need an eye patch the relieve my brain from the stress of seeing normally. I'm thinking it will be a rough ride. James On 1/26/2011 8:35 AM, Garcia-Moran, Carlos wrote: I just got it done in December best money I've ever spent, after looking into prices and tech, I ended up going to Canada, it was $3500 minus $400 for being a US citizen, I got the Custom Wavefront bladeless which was the current best surgery and I can get it done a 2nd time if needed, The place I went LasikMD was recommended by two coworkers who had gotten it done there before. It guarantees 20/20 and the surgery I got covers all checkup's and 2nd surgery's if needed for life. Also I submitted to my bill for FSA reimbursement no problem since it's an approved expense even though it's outside of the country. I actively Kick box 3 times a week and do some swimming. You can't have direct trauma to the eyes for 3 months, outside of some dryness on my left eye, I can read at night with no issues. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Not athletically active, but had mine done with assistance from my FSA account 12 years ago. My eyesight beforehand was 20/400 in one eye, and 20/425 in the other. It cost $2k/eye. I gulped hard and did it. Afterward, it was 20/20 both eyes. I am so very glad I did it. Of course, I instantly needed reading glasses, (I was over 40 at that point) but being able to see the road signs while being driven home from the operation brought more tears to my eyes than could be accounted for by the operation. I got it done on a Friday, and by Monday was good to go, and have always told folks who ask that I would do it again in a heartbeat. I was a practice patient - the surgeon who performed it was at the time the president of the board of ophthalmology for WA STate, but was being proctored for this procedure by someone. He is/was an amazing doctor, who performed RK on my then-wife a few years earlier and worked a near miracle for her as well. I say, ask a couple of ophthalmologists who don't perform this particular procedure who they would choose if they had to get it done, and see what they have to say. Kurt On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:34, Raper, Jonathan - Eaglejra...@eaglemds.com wrote: I'm considering Lasik for my left eye (my right eye is 20/12 uncorrected - I have an astigmatism in my left eye). I've heard great stories, and I've read about not so great experiences. One of my co-workers had Lasik (by the same surgeon who would do my procedure) 8 years ago and claims zero regrets and no long term ill effects. I probably wouldn't do it, because for me it would be a luxury, but I'm positioned to lose up to $2,600 that I have siting in a Flexible Spending Account if it isn't used by March 31 of this year (I checked, and even though the plan was for last 2010, my plan has a grace period that allows for Date of Service until March 31, 2011). The surgeon I'm considering is Karl Stonecipher, who claims having done well over 50,000 procedures. So, any stories, good, bad, or otherwise are welcome. I'm particularly interested in any stories for anyone who is athletically active. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended
RE: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc)
Stop in the pharmacy while you're there to refill your anti-psychotic meds too, since you're already there.. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) You might check Eye-Mart and pick up a pair of ruby quartz glasses. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Only issue I had was when a direct light bounced off my cornea, a steady, heated beam would pierce through solid objects (including screens and keyboards). They'll teach you about non-direct looking. I learned quickly after the family dog took a hit. On 1/26/2011 6:38 PM, James Kerr wrote: I need to have this done in my right eye before its starts doing its own thing from not really getting used. Last time I tried to wear glasses it made me VERY sick and I decided not to wear them anymore. At least with glasses I could take them off and the sickness would wear off in a few hours. I guess if I do lasic I'm going to need an eye patch the relieve my brain from the stress of seeing normally. I'm thinking it will be a rough ride. James On 1/26/2011 8:35 AM, Garcia-Moran, Carlos wrote: I just got it done in December best money I've ever spent, after looking into prices and tech, I ended up going to Canada, it was $3500 minus $400 for being a US citizen, I got the Custom Wavefront bladeless which was the current best surgery and I can get it done a 2nd time if needed, The place I went LasikMD was recommended by two coworkers who had gotten it done there before. It guarantees 20/20 and the surgery I got covers all checkup's and 2nd surgery's if needed for life. Also I submitted to my bill for FSA reimbursement no problem since it's an approved expense even though it's outside of the country. I actively Kick box 3 times a week and do some swimming. You can't have direct trauma to the eyes for 3 months, outside of some dryness on my left eye, I can read at night with no issues. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Not athletically active, but had mine done with assistance from my FSA account 12 years ago. My eyesight beforehand was 20/400 in one eye, and 20/425 in the other. It cost $2k/eye. I gulped hard and did it. Afterward, it was 20/20 both eyes. I am so very glad I did it. Of course, I instantly needed reading glasses, (I was over 40 at that point) but being able to see the road signs while being driven home from the operation brought more tears to my eyes than could be accounted for by the operation. I got it done on a Friday, and by Monday was good to go, and have always told folks who ask that I would do it again in a heartbeat. I was a practice patient - the surgeon who performed it was at the time the president of the board of ophthalmology for WA STate, but was being proctored for this procedure by someone. He is/was an amazing doctor, who performed RK on my then-wife a few years earlier and worked a near miracle for her as well. I say, ask a couple of ophthalmologists who don't perform this particular procedure who they would choose if they had to get it done, and see what they have to say. Kurt On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:34, Raper, Jonathan - Eaglejra...@eaglemds.com wrote: I'm considering Lasik for my left eye (my right eye is 20/12 uncorrected - I have an astigmatism in my left eye). I've heard great stories, and I've read about not so great experiences. One of my co-workers had Lasik (by the same surgeon who would do my procedure) 8 years ago and claims zero regrets and no long term ill effects. I probably wouldn't do it, because for me it would be a luxury, but I'm positioned to lose up to $2,600 that I have siting in a Flexible Spending Account if it isn't used by March 31 of this year (I checked, and even though the plan was for last 2010, my plan has a grace period that allows for Date of Service until March 31, 2011). The surgeon I'm considering is Karl Stonecipher, who claims having done well over 50,000 procedures. So, any stories, good, bad, or otherwise are welcome. I'm particularly interested in any stories for anyone who is athletically active. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com Any medical information contained in this electronic message is
Re: RE: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc)
Yeah. Make sure you get enough for us. :) Also, remember the words of Jay Sherman: Repeat after me, 'I cannot survive without my Lithium.' On Jan 27, 2011 9:15 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Stop in the pharmacy while you're there to refill your anti-psychotic meds too, since you're already there.. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) You might check Eye-Mart and pick up a pair of ruby quartz glasses. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Only issue I had was when a direct light bounced off my cornea, a steady, heated beam would pierce through solid objects (including screens and keyboards). They'll teach you about non-direct looking. I learned quickly after the family dog took a hit. On 1/26/2011 6:38 PM, James Kerr wrote: I need to have this done in my right eye before its starts doing its own thing from not really getting used. Last time I tried to wear glasses it made me VERY sick and I decided not to wear them anymore. At least with glasses I could take them off and the sickness would wear off in a few hours. I guess if I do lasic I'm going to need an eye patch the relieve my brain from the stress of seeing normally. I'm thinking it will be a rough ride. James On 1/26/2011 8:35 AM, Garcia-Moran, Carlos wrote: I just got it done in December best money I've ever spent, after looking into prices and tech, I ended up going to Canada, it was $3500 minus $400 for being a US citizen, I got the Custom Wavefront bladeless which was the current best surgery and I can get it done a 2nd time if needed, The place I went LasikMD was recommended by two coworkers who had gotten it done there before. It guarantees 20/20 and the surgery I got covers all checkup's and 2nd surgery's if needed for life. Also I submitted to my bill for FSA reimbursement no problem since it's an approved expense even though it's outside of the country. I actively Kick box 3 times a week and do some swimming. You can't have direct trauma to the eyes for 3 months, outside of some dryness on my left eye, I can read at night with no issues. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Way OT - Anyone here had Lasik? How has it impacted your daily work (looking at screens, keyboards, etc) Not athletically active, but had mine done with assistance from my FSA account 12 years ago. My eyesight beforehand was 20/400 in one eye, and 20/425 in the other. It cost $2k/eye. I gulped hard and did it. Afterward, it was 20/20 both eyes. I am so very glad I did it. Of course, I instantly needed reading glasses, (I was over 40 at that point) but being able to see the road signs while being driven home from the operation brought more tears to my eyes than could be accounted for by the operation. I got it done on a Friday, and by Monday was good to go, and have always told folks who ask that I would do it again in a heartbeat. I was a practice patient - the surgeon who performed it was at the time the president of the board of ophthalmology for WA STate, but was being proctored for this procedure by someone. He is/was an amazing doctor, who performed RK on my then-wife a few years earlier and worked a near miracle for her as well. I say, ask a couple of ophthalmologists who don't perform this particular procedure who they would choose if they had to get it done, and see what they have to say. Kurt On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:34, Raper, Jonathan - Eaglejra...@eaglemds.com wrote: I'm considering Lasik for my left eye (my right eye is 20/12 uncorrected - I have an astigmatism in my left eye). I've heard great stories, and I've read about not so great experiences. One of my co-workers had Lasik (by the same surgeon who would do my procedure) 8 years ago and claims zero regrets and no long term ill effects. I probably wouldn't do it, because for me it would be a luxury, but I'm positioned to lose up to $2,600 that I have siting in a Flexible Spending Account if it isn't used by March 31 of this year (I checked, and even though the plan was for last 2010, my plan has a grace period that allows for Date of Service until March 31, 2011). The surgeon I'm considering is Karl Stonecipher, who claims having done well over 50,000 procedures. So, any stories, good, bad, or otherwise are welcome. I'm particularly interested in any stories for anyone who is athletically active. Jonathan L. Raper, A+,
RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin
Same. Don't know why Firefox would work and not IE8 or IE9. Thanks to all who helped, I went to another machine and got on fine... From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Does your not getting to it match my description of not getting to it, exactly? does your problem affect any/all KB articles? From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Not getting to it on Win7 X86 IE8 but same machine on Firefox its fine... the Web monkeys must be tinkering. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 January 2011 18:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin I'm getting blank pages on all KB articles when using IE8 under Win7 x64 on one machine only. The Microsoft Support menu is displayed, but inside that box only blankness except - Get Help Now link in the center - Get Help Now link in the upper right, with last review date below it - Buttons - Facebook, Twitter, Print, E-mail etc. 3 other machines here work OK - Win7 x86 IE8, XP IE8, and 2003 IE6. 7 x64 machine was working OK 12 hours ago, and I don't have another 7 x64 to test with. Don't think I picked up any pestilence in the last 12 hours. Most all other websites working OK. Carl From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin I am trying, even using TechNet to get to Microsoft technical bulletin #977695. Coming up on a blank page. What am I doing wrong? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. [cid:image001.gif@01CBBE05.3257F450]http://www.freebridge.org.uk [cid:image002.gif@01CBBE05.3257F450]http://twitter.com/Freebridge [cid:image003.gif@01CBBE05.3257F450]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Community-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Housing Corporation - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.gifinline:
RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin
Silly little rootkit malware …. g Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Same. Don’t know why Firefox would work and not IE8 or IE9. Thanks to all who helped, I went to another machine and got on fine… From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Does your not getting to it match my description of not getting to it, exactly? does your problem affect any/all KB articles? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
WINS question
If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Windows Updates
I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
We have some 1U servers without room for a DVD Drive so we have a USB DVD drive that we utilize for these, but I agree with Malcolm that the USB Flash drive is faster. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Put the Windows install files on a bootable USB flash drive. Much faster than DVD drives, too. -Malcolm From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:riverside...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 05:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: WINS question
This seems easy enough to test... *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows Updates
That's exactly what I would do. You can push all the settings thru GP. Kelli On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
+1 Also, do you REALLY care about WINS or NetBIOS? Unless you have nodes that you need to get to, via host name, which are NOT joined to a Windows 2000/2003/2008 domain, I do not believe you need either function. AD integrated DNS should function just fine without it. The underlying design of WINS uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. This article may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Internet_Name_Service But don't take my word for it. Go with what ASB suggests and test it. :-) Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question This seems easy enough to test... ASB (My Bio via About.Mehttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows Updates
+1 We have one WSUS server and 11 remote sites, some of which are VPN @ 5Mb Full Duplex, and others are a mix of RF non line-of-sight wireless, dark fiber, and Free Space Optics. We push updates to over 500 nodes with one server. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Kelli Sterley [kjsterley.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Updates That's exactly what I would do. You can push all the settings thru GP. Kelli On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.comhttp://wiscoind.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by the Chief Executive or an employee of HESA/HSL with director in their title. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows Updates
1 WSUS server at main site w/ internet 9 remote sites, no servers or internet access at any of them, all have 1.5Mb circuits back to main site WSUS box pushes updates to about 90 local nodes and 80 remote. -Original Message- From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Updates +1 We have one WSUS server and 11 remote sites, some of which are VPN @ 5Mb Full Duplex, and others are a mix of RF non line-of-sight wireless, dark fiber, and Free Space Optics. We push updates to over 500 nodes with one server. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Kelli Sterley [kjsterley.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Updates That's exactly what I would do. You can push all the settings thru GP. Kelli On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.comhttp://wiscoind.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbeltso ftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbeltso ftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows Updates
I always appreciate real world confirmation. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:45:25 -0600 Subject: RE: Windows Updates +1 We have one WSUS server and 11 remote sites, some of which are VPN @ 5Mb Full Duplex, and others are a mix of RF non line-of-sight wireless, dark fiber, and Free Space Optics. We push updates to over 500 nodes with one server. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Kelli Sterley [kjsterley.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Updates That's exactly what I would do. You can push all the settings thru GP. Kelli On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.comhttp://wiscoind.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
GFI LanGuard
In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
I don't know LanGuard, but several vendors have built on top of the WSUS platform in order to support third party patching. Microsoft does it itself with the System Center Configuration Manager product. Putting together a patch for inclusion by WSUS isn't tough to do when you have the support software to do it. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. :) :) :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
Things I've ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
PE Builder V3.1.10A error
Hello, I'm new to PE Builder. Does anyone know why I'm getting the following error below while creating a CD. Error: cannot find file nu2menu.xml Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I've ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PE Builder V3.1.10A error
It's been a while since I messed with my UBCD4Win build... Can you find that file in windows? I have it in a couple of locations, BartPE\PROGRAMS and oem1 within the UBCD4Win folder structure. Also, I think this may crop up if using an OEM CD XP SP2 (and SP3?) from Dell. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com wrote: Hello, I’m new to PE Builder. Does anyone know why I’m getting the following error below while creating a CD. Error: cannot find file nu2menu.xml Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
Their writer got paid by the word. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. J J J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PE Builder V3.1.10A error
Jonathan, I didn't use the UBCD4WIN Build but will if that will work. Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PE Builder V3.1.10A error It's been a while since I messed with my UBCD4Win build... Can you find that file in windows? I have it in a couple of locations, BartPE\PROGRAMS and oem1 within the UBCD4Win folder structure. Also, I think this may crop up if using an OEM CD XP SP2 (and SP3?) from Dell. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com wrote: Hello, I'm new to PE Builder. Does anyone know why I'm getting the following error below while creating a CD. Error: cannot find file nu2menu.xml Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
Disk that came with the server. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Posted At: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:26 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.com Conversation: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I've ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
F6 ? during boot to load the RAID driver first ??? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
I read through the document and I'm clear on what LanGuard can do that WSUS can't; NT Updates, MS Office, MS SQL, MS Exchange and MS ISA and 3rd party updates. The documentation says that LanGuard can scan and identify missing MS patches on PCs and the ability to the missing service pack or patch to that computer or all computers. Is the difference then that WSUS is setup to automatically deploy patches and service packs un-attended while LanGuard would require you to scan and then manually select which missing patches to deploy and where? If so, then to follow this to the extreme, if WSUS wasn't being used, GFI LanGuard could install all MS patches but it would require a lot of manual picking and choosing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:22:19 -0600 Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. J J J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PE Builder V3.1.10A error
I find it makes the process about 30,000,000 times easier than trying to roll my own BartPE. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com wrote: Jonathan, I didn’t use the UBCD4WIN Build but will if that will work. Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:31 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: PE Builder V3.1.10A error It's been a while since I messed with my UBCD4Win build... Can you find that file in windows? I have it in a couple of locations, BartPE\PROGRAMS and oem1 within the UBCD4Win folder structure. Also, I think this may crop up if using an OEM CD XP SP2 (and SP3?) from Dell. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com wrote: Hello, I’m new to PE Builder. Does anyone know why I’m getting the following error below while creating a CD. Error: cannot find file nu2menu.xml Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by
RE: Windows Updates
don't we all! ;-) Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Updates I always appreciate real world confirmation. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:45:25 -0600 Subject: RE: Windows Updates +1 We have one WSUS server and 11 remote sites, some of which are VPN @ 5Mb Full Duplex, and others are a mix of RF non line-of-sight wireless, dark fiber, and Free Space Optics. We push updates to over 500 nodes with one server. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Kelli Sterley [kjsterley.li...@gmail.commailto:kjsterley.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Updates That's exactly what I would do. You can push all the settings thru GP. Kelli On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.comhttp://wiscoind.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
I'll second that. Ran into this same issue the other day with a G6 with SAS drives in it. Server did not come with a SS disc. IIRC, v8.3 and v8.6 worked fine (was building two at once). Older versions sat at a # prompt after HP splash screen went away. Good luck, Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer Datasafe Platform Fiserv Enterprise Technology Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-293-4499 www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I've ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
OS specific drivers for the RAID controller, latest firmware for the RAID controller, or both? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: itli...@imcu.com [itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: GFI LanGuard
And downloading... On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I read through the document and I'm clear on what LanGuard can do that WSUS can't; NT Updates, MS Office, MS SQL, MS Exchange and MS ISA and 3rd party updates. The documentation says that LanGuard can scan and identify missing MS patches on PCs and the ability to the missing service pack or patch to that computer or all computers. Is the difference then that WSUS is setup to automatically deploy patches and service packs un-attended while LanGuard would require you to scan and then manually select which missing patches to deploy and where? If so, then to follow this to the extreme, if WSUS wasn't being used, GFI LanGuard could install all MS patches but it would require a lot of manual picking and choosing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com -- *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] *Sent:* Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:22:19 -0600 *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. J J J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster *From:* Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
Again, I don't specifically know LanGuard, but for MSFT patches, you have that same solution available to you - it's called MBSA - the MSFT baseline security analyzer. Third parties can also integrate with that to scan for third-party patches. BTW, WSUS can do Office, SQL, and Exchange patches. I'm of the opinion it can also do ISA patches too: [cid:image001.png@01CBBE1A.C068EC80] See the bottom of page 3 of the paper. The things that LanGuard does (they say): [1] third-party patches [2] Windows NT patches [3] deployment of patches to ISA servers I'll give you [1] and [2] - and those can be valuable. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard I read through the document and I'm clear on what LanGuard can do that WSUS can't; NT Updates, MS Office, MS SQL, MS Exchange and MS ISA and 3rd party updates. The documentation says that LanGuard can scan and identify missing MS patches on PCs and the ability to the missing service pack or patch to that computer or all computers. Is the difference then that WSUS is setup to automatically deploy patches and service packs un-attended while LanGuard would require you to scan and then manually select which missing patches to deploy and where? If so, then to follow this to the extreme, if WSUS wasn't being used, GFI LanGuard could install all MS patches but it would require a lot of manual picking and choosing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:22:19 -0600 Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. :) :) :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.commailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.commailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.png
Re: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
I've been shipped brand new dual-processor servers with mismatched CPU versions that required firmware updates before the two CPU's could work together, so the fact that you have a CD doesn't guarantee that it will work with the exact hardware build you have. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41 AM, itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com wrote: Disk that came with the server. *From:* Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] *Posted At:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:26 AM *Posted To:* itli...@imcu.com *Conversation:* Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 *Subject:* RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. -- *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I’ve ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. *From:* itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PE Builder V3.1.10A error
Thanks, I will give it a try. Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PE Builder V3.1.10A error I find it makes the process about 30,000,000 times easier than trying to roll my own BartPE. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com wrote: Jonathan, I didn't use the UBCD4WIN Build but will if that will work. Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PE Builder V3.1.10A error It's been a while since I messed with my UBCD4Win build... Can you find that file in windows? I have it in a couple of locations, BartPE\PROGRAMS and oem1 within the UBCD4Win folder structure. Also, I think this may crop up if using an OEM CD XP SP2 (and SP3?) from Dell. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com wrote: Hello, I'm new to PE Builder. Does anyone know why I'm getting the following error below while creating a CD. Error: cannot find file nu2menu.xml Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure Team ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin
The problem has resolved itself on my one machine. Yours too? From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Same. Don't know why Firefox would work and not IE8 or IE9. Thanks to all who helped, I went to another machine and got on fine. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Does your not getting to it match my description of not getting to it, exactly? does your problem affect any/all KB articles? From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin Not getting to it on Win7 X86 IE8 but same machine on Firefox its fine... the Web monkeys must be tinkering. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 January 2011 18:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin I'm getting blank pages on all KB articles when using IE8 under Win7 x64 on one machine only. The Microsoft Support menu is displayed, but inside that box only blankness except - Get Help Now link in the center - Get Help Now link in the upper right, with last review date below it - Buttons - Facebook, Twitter, Print, E-mail etc. 3 other machines here work OK - Win7 x86 IE8, XP IE8, and 2003 IE6. 7 x64 machine was working OK 12 hours ago, and I don't have another 7 x64 to test with. Don't think I picked up any pestilence in the last 12 hours. Most all other websites working OK. Carl From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How do I get to a Microsoft tech bulletin I am trying, even using TechNet to get to Microsoft technical bulletin #977695. Coming up on a blank page. What am I doing wrong? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. _ http://www.freebridge.org.uk Freebridge Community Housing Logo http://twitter.com/Freebridge twitter.com/Freebridge http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Community -Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 Freebridge on Facebook This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Housing Corporation - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ _ This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful
RE: GFI LanGuard
I looked at it briefly quite frankly it looked a bargain when you consider the licensing model doesn't say Oh you want to patch a server, that'll be 30x the cost of a workstation license. Looked a decent product and something I'm considering quite strongly. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
That's just absurdly poor quality control. How long did it take to figure that one out? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Jeff Steward jstew...@gmail.com wrote: I've been shipped brand new dual-processor servers with mismatched CPU versions that required firmware updates before the two CPU's could work together, so the fact that you have a CD doesn't guarantee that it will work with the exact hardware build you have. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41 AM, itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.comwrote: Disk that came with the server. *From:* Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] *Posted At:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:26 AM *Posted To:* itli...@imcu.com *Conversation:* Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 *Subject:* RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. -- *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I’ve ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. *From:* itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: GFI LanGuard
Just to be clear, you can do a number of updates Office, SQL, Exchange and ISA from WSUS. You can also specify what groups receive automatic updates, when they are deployed, etc... I suggest you fire up a WSUS server and play around. The usual advantage of 3rd party patch tools is the ability to include updates from other vendors such as Adobe. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I read through the document and I'm clear on what LanGuard can do that WSUS can't; NT Updates, MS Office, MS SQL, MS Exchange and MS ISA and 3rd party updates. The documentation says that LanGuard can scan and identify missing MS patches on PCs and the ability to the missing service pack or patch to that computer or all computers. Is the difference then that WSUS is setup to automatically deploy patches and service packs un-attended while LanGuard would require you to scan and then manually select which missing patches to deploy and where? If so, then to follow this to the extreme, if WSUS wasn't being used, GFI LanGuard could install all MS patches but it would require a lot of manual picking and choosing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 tel:+16088353106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 tel:+16088357399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com -- *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] *Sent:* Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:22:19 -0600 *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. J J J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster *From:* Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
+1 All HP did was kit the parts from their inventory warehouse by people being paid minimum wage or slightly better (unless they are union), and make sure the box powered up before it went out the door. Picking the correct firmware and drivers is the installer's problem, because that's why they get paid the big bucks! Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Jeff Steward [jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 I've been shipped brand new dual-processor servers with mismatched CPU versions that required firmware updates before the two CPU's could work together, so the fact that you have a CD doesn't guarantee that it will work with the exact hardware build you have. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41 AM, itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com wrote: Disk that came with the server. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.govmailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Posted At: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:26 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com Conversation: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edumailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I’ve ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. From: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do
Re: GFI LanGuard
It does do ISA, I've used it for that for years. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Again, I don’t specifically know LanGuard, but for MSFT patches, you have that same solution available to you – it’s called MBSA – the MSFT baseline security analyzer. Third parties can also integrate with that to scan for third-party patches. BTW, WSUS can do Office, SQL, and Exchange patches. I’m of the opinion it can also do ISA patches too: See the bottom of page 3 of the paper. The things that LanGuard does (they say): [1] third-party patches [2] Windows NT patches [3] deployment of patches to ISA servers I’ll give you [1] and [2] – and those can be valuable. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:47 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard I read through the document and I'm clear on what LanGuard can do that WSUS can't; NT Updates, MS Office, MS SQL, MS Exchange and MS ISA and 3rd party updates. The documentation says that LanGuard can scan and identify missing MS patches on PCs and the ability to the missing service pack or patch to that computer or all computers. Is the difference then that WSUS is setup to automatically deploy patches and service packs un-attended while LanGuard would require you to scan and then manually select which missing patches to deploy and where? If so, then to follow this to the extreme, if WSUS wasn't being used, GFI LanGuard could install all MS patches but it would require a lot of manual picking and choosing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 tel:+16088353106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 tel:+16088357399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com -- *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] *Sent:* Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:22:19 -0600 *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. J J J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster *From:* Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: WINS question
We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto: listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned
RE: GFI LanGuard
I'd like to know how they deliver third-party patches, or whether that is left up to the administrator. That used to be the major advantage some third-party applications provided (such as Shavlik). Their people kept up with the patches coming out from other vendors and would either package them for you, or give you an automated way to package them and then push them out. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard I looked at it briefly quite frankly it looked a bargain when you consider the licensing model doesn't say Oh you want to patch a server, that'll be 30x the cost of a workstation license. Looked a decent product and something I'm considering quite strongly. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
So, you specifically disable WINS on your client machines before joining them to the domain, correct? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Steven Peck [sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs.
Re: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6
IIRC, the POST message was clear on the matter or the server OS install failed. Searched the HP knowledge base and downloaded the firmware update, removed one CPU, updated firmware, reinstalled CPU and off I went. Annoyed doesn't even begin to describe how I felt at the time. Now I laugh about it. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: That's just absurdly poor quality control. How long did it take to figure that one out? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Jeff Steward jstew...@gmail.com wrote: I've been shipped brand new dual-processor servers with mismatched CPU versions that required firmware updates before the two CPU's could work together, so the fact that you have a CD doesn't guarantee that it will work with the exact hardware build you have. -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41 AM, itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.comwrote: Disk that came with the server. *From:* Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] *Posted At:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:26 AM *Posted To:* itli...@imcu.com *Conversation:* Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 *Subject:* RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 The only thing I can suggest is the obvious: Make sure you are using the correct/newest SmartStart disc. An older disc may not have the necessary drivers. -- *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:23 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 Things I’ve ran into that caused os install problems. Do you have a flash drive plugged in anywhere on the server while running the install. Also a bad server os DVD, Make sure the server has all the latest updates from Compaq, especially the P400. *From:* itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:01 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dumb Dumb question installing server 2008 on HP DL380 G6 HP DL380 G6 with P400 Smart Array controller. Can not find the drives? In BIOS array configuration I have 6 146GB SAS drives in a RAID5 logical disk. SmartStart can not find it. Just running Windows setup sees the drive, formats the drive but then cannot find a drive to install the OS too?? What am I missing??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
We 99% sure the last time I tried to join a 2008 box to our 2008 domain, it wouldn't join unless I had netbios ticked even when specifically using the DNS name of the domain, but I could be wrong. My brain is mush this afternoon and I guess I could have used the netbios name of the domain instead. I may have just engaged fingers before brain, so feel free to ignore me! Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk -Original Message- From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 17:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbeltso ftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher
Re: WINS question
Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto: listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee,
RE: WINS question
I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbeltso ftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE
RE: GFI LanGuard
I had Sunbelt's SNSI and it went away and so I inherited Languard from them. I am trying to get up to speed on this and all it can do with or without WSUS. I do get updated emails all the time from GFI with listings of 3rd party patches it can now do. I'd like to know more about this product. I will be accelerating my testing. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard I'd like to know how they deliver third-party patches, or whether that is left up to the administrator. That used to be the major advantage some third-party applications provided (such as Shavlik). Their people kept up with the patches coming out from other vendors and would either package them for you, or give you an automated way to package them and then push them out. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard I looked at it briefly quite frankly it looked a bargain when you consider the licensing model doesn't say Oh you want to patch a server, that'll be 30x the cost of a workstation license. Looked a decent product and something I'm considering quite strongly. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: WINS question
errr disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP -- we uncheck that box and do not add a WINs server, then we join the domain. AD2008r2 currently but we've done this for a year now. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: So, you specifically disable WINS on your client machines before joining them to the domain, correct? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Steven Peck [sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk ] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: WINS question
*bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If
RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
Dcpromo /forceremoval and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: WINS question
and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: **bow** Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority J http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere. Here’s a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of
RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn't consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS :) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Dcpromo /forceremoval and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Cisco Switch as VM?
Have not used them in a few years but Boson was/is the king of that kind of simulation software. www.boson.comhttp://www.boson.com From: Wilhelm, Scott [mailto:swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Cisco Switch as VM? Does anyone know of a way to setup a cisco switch as a VM, or something along those lines? We have VMWare setup, and would like to setup some switches for training purposes. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3046 “The harder I work, the luckier I get. “ -Samuel Goldwyn Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work. -Vince Lombardi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
We evaluated GFI Languard and went with Shavlik. Scan targets, select missing patches, deploy. Perfect it, schedule it call it a day. Almost. :) I have yet to experience anything that goes to 400+ systems that works 100% of the time. The WSUS client reporting in and SMS client install are in the high 90's, SMS pushes of various things are in the 95% range, anti-virus server pushing AV out is a bit lower, 90% maybe, and it all adds up in maintenance.. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard I'd like to know how they deliver third-party patches, or whether that is left up to the administrator. That used to be the major advantage some third-party applications provided (such as Shavlik). Their people kept up with the patches coming out from other vendors and would either package them for you, or give you an automated way to package them and then push them out. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard I looked at it briefly quite frankly it looked a bargain when you consider the licensing model doesn't say Oh you want to patch a server, that'll be 30x the cost of a workstation license. Looked a decent product and something I'm considering quite strongly. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Cisco Switch as VM?
ISTR seeing something about a Cisco Nexus series of virtual switches at a dog and pony show recently. Jim Holmgren Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: Wilhelm, Scott [mailto:swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Cisco Switch as VM? Does anyone know of a way to setup a cisco switch as a VM, or something along those lines? We have VMWare setup, and would like to setup some switches for training purposes. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3046 “The harder I work, the luckier I get. “ -Samuel Goldwyn Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work. -Vince Lombardi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este facsםmile, incluyendo lo adjunto, es para el uso exclusivo del destinatario(s) y puede contener informaciףn confidencial y/o informaciףn protegida de salud. En virtud de la Ley Federal (HIPAA), el destinatario tiene la obligaciףn de mantener esta informaciףn segura y confidencial. Cualquier divulgaciףn a terceros sin la autorizaciףn de los miembros de lo permitido por la ley estב prohibido y penado en virtud de la Ley Federal. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, pףngase en contacto con el remitente por telיfono y destruir todas las copias del mensaje original ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Cisco Switch as VM?
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9902/index.html ^^ not anywhere near what one would consider cheap. 2011/1/27 Jim Holmgren jholmg...@xlhealth.com ISTR seeing something about a Cisco Nexus series of virtual switches at a dog and pony show recently. Jim Holmgren Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com *From:* Wilhelm, Scott [mailto:swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Cisco Switch as VM? Does anyone know of a way to setup a cisco switch as a VM, or something along those lines? We have VMWare setup, and would like to setup some switches for training purposes. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3046 *“The harder I work, the luckier I get. “* -Samuel Goldwyn * * *Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work. -*Vince Lombardi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir informaciףn confidencial y/o informaciףn de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA) establece que el destinatario estב obligado a mantener la informaciףn confidencial y sequra. HIPAA prohםbe y castiga cualquier divulgaciףn a terceras personas sin autorizaciףn del afiliado o permitido por ley. Si usted no es el destinatario, redirija esta mensaje al remitente, y destruye cualquier copia existente del mensaje original. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: GFI LanGuard
It is the 80/20 rule of life. 'Stuff' works 80% of the time, and the remaining 20% consume 80% of your time :) -Jeff Steward On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:01 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: We evaluated GFI Languard and went with Shavlik. Scan targets, select missing patches, deploy. Perfect it, schedule it call it a day. Almost. J I have yet to experience anything that goes to 400+ systems that works 100% of the time. The WSUS client reporting in and SMS client install are in the high 90’s, SMS pushes of various things are in the 95% range, anti-virus server pushing AV out is a bit lower, 90% maybe, and it all adds up in maintenance.. *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 tel:+15035485229 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764tel:+15032679764 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:16 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard I’d like to know how they deliver third-party patches, or whether that is left up to the administrator. That used to be the major advantage some third-party applications provided (such as Shavlik). Their people kept up with the patches coming out from other vendors and would either package them for you, or give you an automated way to package them and then push them out. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:10 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: GFI LanGuard I looked at it briefly quite frankly it looked a bargain when you consider the licensing model doesn’t say “Oh you want to patch a server, that’ll be 30x the cost of a workstation license”. Looked a decent product and something I’m considering quite strongly. *From:* Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] *Sent:* 27 January 2011 16:14 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 tel:+16088353106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 tel:+16088357399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- *MIRA Ltd* Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
All my outlook clients are local, and we don't have a cluster. So I guess in smaller environments like this, you don't need WINS. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority J http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchang e-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over
Re: OT: Cisco Switch as VM?
Have you had a look at Vyatta Core? http://www.vyatta.org/index.php More of a router/firewall than a switch, but might be useful depending on what you're trying to do. The non-free version is at http://www.vyatta.com/. 2011/1/27 Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us Does anyone know of a way to setup a cisco switch as a VM, or something along those lines? We have VMWare setup, and would like to setup some switches for training purposes. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3046 *“The harder I work, the luckier I get. “* -Samuel Goldwyn * * ***Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work. -*Vince Lombardi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: Cisco Switch as VM?
GNS3 runs actual Cisco IOS (which you provide). It will do switches, routers, PIX, ASA… http://www.gns3.net/ From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Cisco Switch as VM? Have you had a look at Vyatta Core? http://www.vyatta.org/index.php More of a router/firewall than a switch, but might be useful depending on what you're trying to do. The non-free version is at http://www.vyatta.com/. 2011/1/27 Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.usmailto:swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us Does anyone know of a way to setup a cisco switch as a VM, or something along those lines? We have VMWare setup, and would like to setup some switches for training purposes. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3046 “The harder I work, the luckier I get. “ -Samuel Goldwyn Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work. -Vince Lombardi ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Schein Animal Health ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
I absolutely share your concern, I'm on the other side of that fence in that I AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year for at least one more generation. What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved depending on your POV) there is a lot more involved than just single-label name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 don't. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.commailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman
RE: WINS question
Excellent explanation on WINS Exchange 2003 dependencies, Michael. We're running Ex2007 on Server 2008, not clustered, so there is no need for WINS in our environment, (from that standpoint, anyway). Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺ http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere. Here’s a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration process. My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees with me on this. Thank you, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life
RE: WINS question
Depending on outlook versions, that's correct. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Excellent explanation on WINS Exchange 2003 dependencies, Michael. We're running Ex2007 on Server 2008, not clustered, so there is no need for WINS in our environment, (from that standpoint, anyway). Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺ http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere. Here’s a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.ukmailto:joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure. Joe Tiedeman Web Server and Security Administrator Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211167 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.ukhttp://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WINS question If disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the client register with the WINS server? Or does that
re: WINS question
If anyone is interested in the original question, I think this answers it pretty well: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299977 Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: WINS question
I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS. It would be my belief/understanding that NetBIOS was still used in those environments. WINS just gives you a more manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I absolutely share your concern, I'm on the other side of that fence in that I AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year for at least one more generation. What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved depending on your POV) there is a lot more involved than just single-label name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 don't. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority J http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchang e-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled. If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections. ** So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000 or later domain that as no use or need for WINS? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Joe Tiedeman [joe.tiede...@hesa.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
RE: WINS question
ding! ding! ding! We have a winner! :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Look about 5 emails down and review the link to Michael's site. It explains the need for WINS/NetBIOS/NetBT in relation to Exchange 2003 quite well. That link points to a section entitled, Exchange, Active Directory, and WINS. If you scroll down to the section entitled, Windows Internet Name Service (WINS), you'll see what I'm talking about. (Though I recommend reading the whole page - good stuff). Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Mayo, Bill [bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS. It would be my belief/understanding that NetBIOS was still used in those environments. WINS just gives you a more manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I absolutely share your concern, I’m on the other side of that fence in that I AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year for at least one more generation. What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved depending on your POV) there is a lot more involved than just single-label name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 don’t. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺ http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere. Here’s a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.commailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as
RE: WINS question
Oh yeah, and here's the Microsoft answer... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837391 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd285511(EXCHG.80).aspx --- specifically about Outlook 2003/2007 and NetBIOS Name Resolution and WINS Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Mayo, Bill [bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS. It would be my belief/understanding that NetBIOS was still used in those environments. WINS just gives you a more manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I absolutely share your concern, I’m on the other side of that fence in that I AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year for at least one more generation. What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved depending on your POV) there is a lot more involved than just single-label name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 don’t. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority ☺ http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 – no WINS anywhere. Here’s a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.commailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network properties) * Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft vendor-specific DHCP option. When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether NetBT is
RE: WINS question
Standard answer, it depends. If everything in on one LAN it is different from an environment with hundreds of routers. Some folks here still talk about Network Neighborhood in their environments too so it depends :) NetBIOS roots were broadcast based, it evolved from there. WINS evolved to become the arbiter of NetBIOS name registration and resolution making it manageable in larger networks. When you are talking about disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP it is frequently referred to as disabling the WINS client but the point I was trying to make is that NetBIOS is more than the oversimplification a lot of folks make that it is just single-label AKA- NetBIOS name to IP resolution. NetBIOS defines a software interface and a naming convention. It does not define a protocol. NetBIOS over TCP/IP provides the NetBIOS programming interface over the TCP/IP protocol. It extends the reach of NetBIOS client and server programs to the wide area network (WAN) If it was only about name-IP address resolution, it would have died long ago when MS embraced DNS as the predominate method of name resolution like was often rumored :) From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I may be missing the boat on this, but I saw some comments from folks about having Exchange 2003, et al, and no WINS. It would be my belief/understanding that NetBIOS was still used in those environments. WINS just gives you a more manageable, centralized way of handling NetBIOS. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I absolutely share your concern, I'm on the other side of that fence in that I AM responsible for them. Since we count our applications in the thousands and there is no registry of all the interfaces they use, I have no idea how many use NetBT or what would break so WINS servers are being lifecycled this year for at least one more generation. What seems to have been lost as this conversation evolved (or devolved depending on your POV) there is a lot more involved than just single-label name resolution. Plenty of environments will run fine without WINS/NetBT services and the converse is equally true. I have 3 prod AD forests 1 runs it 2 don't. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question and this is why we had WINs in our environment and are only now beginning to decom them. Outlook clients over a WAN and Exchange 2003 clusters. To be honest, I suspect some of our really old quirky custom legacy applications will have similar issues once we finish. However, I mentioned this to those folks and they are unconcerned. As I do not directly or indirectly manage or support those things, I will mind my own business and we will see what happens :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: *bow* Thanks! Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question Bah..if you are going to quote something, go to an authority :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/01/16/exchange-active-directory-and-wins.aspx From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WINS question I am with you 100%. Win 2003, E2003, office 2003 - no WINS anywhere. Here's a good little read on it: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/services/WINS_exchange.htm From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.commailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WINS question Now I am curious, I am on 2003 server, 2003 Exchange and Office 2003 and do not have WINS at all in our environment. Was there something in Exchange 2003 that required it? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process. Now that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Really? I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured: (copied and pasted from the popup help information
Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
Tried that, It wont remove as the File replication service wont start, due to dependancy service not being ound or being marked for deletion. Its a pain, Thanks Graeme On 27 January 2011 18:00, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn’t consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS J *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start “Dcpromo /forceremoval” and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
MDT 2010
A few weeks ago I asked about what to use to deploy images to workstations. The overwhelming answer was MDT 2010, and WDS. I installed both products, capture images, and deploy. The one issue I am running into on the deployment front is the Dell Diagnostic Utility partition. I would like to keep this partition intact if possible. I have read and Googled quite a bit, but can't find a solution. Does anyone here have a solution? Thanks, Chris Blair ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
Hopefully this is not the only DC in the domain? Does it hold any FSMO roles? I'd go through this process to scrub it from the domain: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498 Then rebuild the OS from scratch, then DCPROMO it back up Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: Graeme Carstairs loonyto...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 01/27/2011 03:35 PM Subject:Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Tried that, It wont remove as the File replication service wont start, due to dependancy service not being ound or being marked for deletion. Its a pain, Thanks Graeme On 27 January 2011 18:00, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn’t consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS J From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start “Dcpromo /forceremoval” and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
+1 I would also add that I would never create another server with that same name (I’m old school, most people disagree with that one). :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hopefully this is not the only DC in the domain? Does it hold any FSMO roles? I'd go through this process to scrub it from the domain: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498 Then rebuild the OS from scratch, then DCPROMO it back up Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:Graeme Carstairs loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/27/2011 03:35 PM Subject:Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Tried that, It wont remove as the File replication service wont start, due to dependancy service not being ound or being marked for deletion. Its a pain, Thanks Graeme On 27 January 2011 18:00, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn’t consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS ☺ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start “Dcpromo /forceremoval” and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don't think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference - that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
I recently had pretty much the same thing happen. I *think* what caused the problem for me was using SCCM OS deployment to build my Server 2008 R2 systems in our production domain, then moving them to our test domain, then DCPROMOing up. My solution was to build two more Server 2008 R2 systems from SCCM, but I did not have SCCM put them in a domain, I left them workgroup servers. I then DCPROMO'd up. The old DCs had to be DCPROMO /forceremoval. Then, I used AD Sites and Service to remove all of the metadata and server objects (YEA! No more ntdsutil mega-typing sessions to clean up metadata!). Finally, I cleaned up DNS and all seems well. From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
+1 on that MBS, I am of the same mindset, for better or worse. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start +1 I would also add that I would never create another server with that same name (I’m old school, most people disagree with that one). :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hopefully this is not the only DC in the domain? Does it hold any FSMO roles? I'd go through this process to scrub it from the domain: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498 Then rebuild the OS from scratch, then DCPROMO it back up Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:Graeme Carstairs loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/27/2011 03:35 PM Subject:Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Tried that, It wont remove as the File replication service wont start, due to dependancy service not being ound or being marked for deletion. Its a pain, Thanks Graeme On 27 January 2011 18:00, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn’t consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS ☺ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start “Dcpromo /forceremoval” and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click
RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
You mean I'm not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don't think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference - that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MDT 2010
You just need to edit the Format and Partition step in the task sequence. Unless I'm not understanding exactly what you mean... By default, Win7/Server2008R2 will have two partitions already - a WinPE 3.0 recovery environment, plus the C: drive. You can add in up to two additional primary partitions pretty easily... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MDT 2010 A few weeks ago I asked about what to use to deploy images to workstations. The overwhelming answer was MDT 2010, and WDS. I installed both products, capture images, and deploy. The one issue I am running into on the deployment front is the Dell Diagnostic Utility partition. I would like to keep this partition intact if possible. I have read and Googled quite a bit, but can't find a solution. Does anyone here have a solution? Thanks, Chris Blair ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I'm not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don't think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference - that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: Early Friday Funnies - Should I Buy an iPad?
I prefer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHLNQ3BZEAfeature=related *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: The next time a user asks you if he should buy an iPad you can point him to these resources: It’s BIGGER! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6hieCwAroNR=1 It’s magical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHQ7hcdh9Ufeature=player_embedded I know... the real issue is they don't ask. They just walk in and want you to configure it for their email, etc. Roger Wright ___ The internet is a great way to get on the net. – Bob Dole ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
*I would also add that I would never create another server with that same name (I’m old school, most people disagree with that one). :-P* We must have gone to the same school. :) I will always prefer the build new and migrate over build with the same name and switch methodologies... *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: +1 I would also add that I would never create another server with that same name (I’m old school, most people disagree with that one). :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:56 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hopefully this is not the only DC in the domain? Does it hold any FSMO roles? I'd go through this process to scrub it from the domain: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498 Then rebuild the OS from scratch, then DCPROMO it back up Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:Graeme Carstairs loonyto...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/27/2011 03:35 PM Subject:Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start -- Tried that, It wont remove as the File replication service wont start, due to dependancy service not being ound or being marked for deletion. Its a pain, Thanks Graeme On 27 January 2011 18:00, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn’t consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS J *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] * Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM * To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start “Dcpromo /forceremoval” and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] * Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM* To:* NT System Admin Issues* Subject:* 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start
I don’t disagree but it’s entirely possible to reuse DC names, we have been using the same ones for many years through numerous lifecycles. Our DCs today have the same names they did in the NT master account domain, even though there are a few less of them. For better or worse, people seem to develop an affinity for the names of core services. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start +1 I would also add that I would never create another server with that same name (I’m old school, most people disagree with that one). :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hopefully this is not the only DC in the domain? Does it hold any FSMO roles? I'd go through this process to scrub it from the domain: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498 Then rebuild the OS from scratch, then DCPROMO it back up Chris Bodnar, MCSE Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:Graeme Carstairs loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/27/2011 03:35 PM Subject:Re: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Tried that, It wont remove as the File replication service wont start, due to dependancy service not being ound or being marked for deletion. Its a pain, Thanks Graeme On 27 January 2011 18:00, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. Wouldn’t consider anything else, something is hosed in the OS. Followed by flatten and reinstall OS ☺ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start “Dcpromo /forceremoval” and then metadata cleanup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 2008 Server Ran DCPROMO into existing domain and it says it completed succesfully but on reboot, NLA, Base filtering etc wont start Hi, I am having some serious issues with a newley promoted 2008 DC. DCPROMO completed succesfully, and then I restarted the server, and from there it all went wrong. The following services wont start giving access denied errors, Base Filering Engine DHCP Client Diagnostic Policy Service Windows Time The following give the Dependency service doesnt exist or has been marked for Deletion. DNS Server File Replication Services IKE and Auth IP Intersite Messaging Kerberos Dependancy Service or Group Failed ot Start IPSEC Policy Agent Windows FIrewall The NLS and NLA services also werent starting but I fixed them but the only way I could get them to start was to give everyon full control to the reg key, but I tried for BFE and that didnt work, and for obvious reason I dont want that to work,. I tried to DCPROMO it down but it would not let me as it was running domain services. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
We often install DCs remotely via the DRAC virtual CD, never go near the HW itself -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 We have some 1U servers without room for a DVD Drive so we have a USB DVD drive that we utilize for these, but I agree with Malcolm that the USB Flash drive is faster. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Put the Windows install files on a bootable USB flash drive. Much faster than DVD drives, too. -Malcolm From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:riverside...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 05:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
Did a couple hundred this way. Actually put special ISO together that once it booted from the DRAC it ran the whole thing itself. This is a good task to delegate, believe me. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 We often install DCs remotely via the DRAC virtual CD, never go near the HW itself -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 We have some 1U servers without room for a DVD Drive so we have a USB DVD drive that we utilize for these, but I agree with Malcolm that the USB Flash drive is faster. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Put the Windows install files on a bootable USB flash drive. Much faster than DVD drives, too. -Malcolm From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:riverside...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 05:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008
Never had to do it on that scale but did also found dcpromo with unattended install is your definitely your friend :-) -Original Message- From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Did a couple hundred this way. Actually put special ISO together that once it booted from the DRAC it ran the whole thing itself. This is a good task to delegate, believe me. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 We often install DCs remotely via the DRAC virtual CD, never go near the HW itself -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 We have some 1U servers without room for a DVD Drive so we have a USB DVD drive that we utilize for these, but I agree with Malcolm that the USB Flash drive is faster. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Put the Windows install files on a bootable USB flash drive. Much faster than DVD drives, too. -Malcolm From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:riverside...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 05:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AD Migration from 2003 to 2008 Make sure you have DVD drives! We did an in place upgrade of all our domain controllers to get the fine grained password policies; recently one of the domain controllers hosed up and the repair from the DVD would have been a very helpful utility, but without a DVD ROM in the server we were left to rebuild the server from scratch and then a restore from backup, a much longer process than it should have been. If you're planning on using Server 2008 for file services, keep in mind that Microsoft has changed the basic default NTFS security rights over the file sharing services. Read up on that before you start messing with the defaults to force what they used to be, don't skip it because it's just file sharing. -My 2 cents worth- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
We all have our share of special users. Those are interesting stories. Some of us have our share of educational victories as well. Those that learn after getting the right information after only one or two bad experiences. For instance, I have this thing in my kitchen that makes things hot (my wife calls it an oven). If I have a recipe that I follow I can get an approximation of edible food. Sometimes I get lucky and it's really good, other times it's merely a lesson in what doesn't work. In the cooking world I am that 'special user'. Fortunately my wife does not mock me for it, although I am beginning to suspect a correlation between my attempts to bake and her loud sighs, I may have to chart the occurrences. For our special users (even our general ones), we must remember that people learn differently and often we must craft our educational message to fit our users ability to comprehend. Educating people on social engineering is a rather time consuming task. Lot's to be learned from the advertising fields in how to present the same overall message in different formats for user consumption. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device -- *From: * David Lum david@nwea.org *Date: *Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 -0800 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I’m not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don’t think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference – that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
What a load of hippy crap. What part of don't use that system has to be explained in kindergarten terms to a user? They're not special, they're idiots. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:28 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer' We all have our share of special users. Those are interesting stories. Some of us have our share of educational victories as well. Those that learn after getting the right information after only one or two bad experiences. For instance, I have this thing in my kitchen that makes things hot (my wife calls it an oven). If I have a recipe that I follow I can get an approximation of edible food. Sometimes I get lucky and it's really good, other times it's merely a lesson in what doesn't work. In the cooking world I am that 'special user'. Fortunately my wife does not mock me for it, although I am beginning to suspect a correlation between my attempts to bake and her loud sighs, I may have to chart the occurrences. For our special users (even our general ones), we must remember that people learn differently and often we must craft our educational message to fit our users ability to comprehend. Educating people on social engineering is a rather time consuming task. Lot's to be learned from the advertising fields in how to present the same overall message in different formats for user consumption. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device -- *From: * David Lum david@nwea.org *Date: *Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 -0800 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I’m not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don’t think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference – that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
You are right...with cars, I am a special user. I expect that I am being slated on a mechanic's list somewhere :-) Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:28 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer' We all have our share of special users. Those are interesting stories. Some of us have our share of educational victories as well. Those that learn after getting the right information after only one or two bad experiences. For instance, I have this thing in my kitchen that makes things hot (my wife calls it an oven). If I have a recipe that I follow I can get an approximation of edible food. Sometimes I get lucky and it's really good, other times it's merely a lesson in what doesn't work. In the cooking world I am that 'special user'. Fortunately my wife does not mock me for it, although I am beginning to suspect a correlation between my attempts to bake and her loud sighs, I may have to chart the occurrences. For our special users (even our general ones), we must remember that people learn differently and often we must craft our educational message to fit our users ability to comprehend. Educating people on social engineering is a rather time consuming task. Lot's to be learned from the advertising fields in how to present the same overall message in different formats for user consumption. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device -- *From: * David Lum david@nwea.org *Date: *Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 -0800 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I’m not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don’t think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference – that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally,
Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
Sensitive as always. :) William J. Robbins Enterprise Infrastructure Operations Office of Information Management Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited On Jan 27, 2011, at 18:25, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: What a load of hippy crap. What part of don't use that system has to be explained in kindergarten terms to a user? They're not special, they're idiots. From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:28 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer' We all have our share of special users. Those are interesting stories. Some of us have our share of educational victories as well. Those that learn after getting the right information after only one or two bad experiences. For instance, I have this thing in my kitchen that makes things hot (my wife calls it an oven). If I have a recipe that I follow I can get an approximation of edible food. Sometimes I get lucky and it's really good, other times it's merely a lesson in what doesn't work. In the cooking world I am that 'special user'. Fortunately my wife does not mock me for it, although I am beginning to suspect a correlation between my attempts to bake and her loud sighs, I may have to chart the occurrences. For our special users (even our general ones), we must remember that people learn differently and often we must craft our educational message to fit our users ability to comprehend. Educating people on social engineering is a rather time consuming task. Lot's to be learned from the advertising fields in how to present the same overall message in different formats for user consumption. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I’m not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don’t think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference – that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
Did somebody lose their happy place? Thanks, Mathew From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer' What a load of hippy crap. What part of don't use that system has to be explained in kindergarten terms to a user? They're not special, they're idiots. From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:28 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer' We all have our share of special users. Those are interesting stories. Some of us have our share of educational victories as well. Those that learn after getting the right information after only one or two bad experiences. For instance, I have this thing in my kitchen that makes things hot (my wife calls it an oven). If I have a recipe that I follow I can get an approximation of edible food. Sometimes I get lucky and it's really good, other times it's merely a lesson in what doesn't work. In the cooking world I am that 'special user'. Fortunately my wife does not mock me for it, although I am beginning to suspect a correlation between my attempts to bake and her loud sighs, I may have to chart the occurrences. For our special users (even our general ones), we must remember that people learn differently and often we must craft our educational message to fit our users ability to comprehend. Educating people on social engineering is a rather time consuming task. Lot's to be learned from the advertising fields in how to present the same overall message in different formats for user consumption. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I'm not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.commailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don't think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference - that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206366/Intel_developing_security_game_changer_?taxonomyId=85 Hype? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer'
I am not sure anyone would remotely describe me as 'hippy'. Fairly good at my job yes. Not holding my customers in contempt. I guess in some scenarios that could make me a 'hippy'. My analogy wasn't about sensitivity, it was about awareness and respect. My point was to remember the audience. People are embarrassed when they make mistakes. They can be fearful about admitting to them, which can lead to further mistakes. Especially when they are in an environment that fosters contempt of mockery of such things. People can be acutely aware of when they are dealing with professionals who hold them in contempt and this can have long term consequences. Of course, many people go through life without ever seeing it that way. In the end, perhaps some people just aren't as good or clear with customer interaction as they may think they are and the price they pay is that users don't ask more questions when confused. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:31 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: Sensitive as always. :) William J. Robbins Enterprise Infrastructure Operations Office of Information Management Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited On Jan 27, 2011, at 18:25, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: What a load of hippy crap. What part of don't use that system has to be explained in kindergarten terms to a user? They're not special, they're idiots. -- *From: * Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:28 -0800 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Intel developing security 'game-changer' We all have our share of special users. Those are interesting stories. Some of us have our share of educational victories as well. Those that learn after getting the right information after only one or two bad experiences. For instance, I have this thing in my kitchen that makes things hot (my wife calls it an oven). If I have a recipe that I follow I can get an approximation of edible food. Sometimes I get lucky and it's really good, other times it's merely a lesson in what doesn't work. In the cooking world I am that 'special user'. Fortunately my wife does not mock me for it, although I am beginning to suspect a correlation between my attempts to bake and her loud sighs, I may have to chart the occurrences. For our special users (even our general ones), we must remember that people learn differently and often we must craft our educational message to fit our users ability to comprehend. Educating people on social engineering is a rather time consuming task. Lot's to be learned from the advertising fields in how to present the same overall message in different formats for user consumption. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.orghttp://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I had a home user recently showing all the signs of malware. I told him not to use his pc till I could look at it. And he went and made a purchase with his debit card. Against that sort of idiocy, we admins are doomed to fail. Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device -- *From: * David Lum david@nwea.org *Date: *Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:55:37 -0800 *To: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' You mean I’m not supposed to enter my Visa number at a site that will give me winning lottery numbers on an animated stripper card that includes a free registry and spyware scan and install AntiVirus 2069? Who knew? Dave *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto: al...@sunbelt-software.com al...@sunbelt-software.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel developing security 'game-changer' Well, since the vast majority of infections occur because of social engineering, I don’t think it will mean much at all. An analogy might be DEP, which did make some difference – that was something at the kernel. But not a huge difference. I would put this in the same pot. At the end of the day, your users will still demand downloading their favorite crapware, surf porn, and fill out lottery sites online, while giving all of these places their credit card numbers. Alex *From:* David Lum [mailto: david@nwea.orgdavid@nwea.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Intel developing security 'game-changer' What say you, Alex, et all.
