date:20120208

Yes, as I'd like a copy as well. :-)

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Kevin Lundy klu...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's beginning to look like DropBox or Google Docs might be in order for
 the template :)


 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Jonathan ncm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Me four please! I'd love to see that template.

 Thanks!

 Jonathan
 On Feb 8, 2012 2:00 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:

  Understood. Out of curiousity, did you look into any other solutions
 other than VNX and LeftHand?

 And, to respond to your comment about never outgrowing the unit, expect
 the unexpected.

 I never thought we would outgrow the capabilities of the two CX700s
 arrays we implemented in our first SAN solution. Six years later I'm
 retiring both of those, two Celerra NAS gateways and a CX4-960. All the
 while deploying six new Compellent arrays, 3 EqualLogics with FS7500 NAS
 Heads and working on a recommendation for a purpose built Tier 1 solution.

 - Sean
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 No offense taken, and none meant on my part either - just some
 disagreement spiced a bit too heavily with the frustration. I do
 understand that caveat emptor applies, and that it would have been
 better if we'd done more research, but that bit of misdirection on
 their part was just a bit rich...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 22:30, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
  frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack
 of
  functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not
 necessarily an
  issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a
 better
  job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to
 pitch a
  higher-end solution (if justified).
 
  I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the
 template to
  those that expressed interest individually.
 
  - Sean
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer
 needs
   to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the
 creation of
   technical
   requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps
 you put
   on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the
 vendor a
   uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of
 their
   platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that
   allows us to
   weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement
   might be
   that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or
 3
   requirement
   might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage
 larger
   cache.
 
  This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
  and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
  hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
  to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
  the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
  limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion
 between
  EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
  them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
  he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
  matter - I suggested another LH unit.
 
   It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the
 template we
   used for our last storage purchase.
 
  That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically
 outgrow
  the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
  doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
  that raised my dander.
 
   - Sean
  
   On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
   purchase, methinks...
  
   Kurt
  
   On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
   I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support
 SCSI 3
   protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this
 was a
   limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because
 EMC is
   marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution.
 They
   need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
   platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models
 supported
   SCSI 3.
  
   - Sean
  
   On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
   I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.
  
   I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is
 limited to
   that.
  
  
  
 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf
  
   Thanks,
   Mathew
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From:

RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul

We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that 
frustrated me the most were:

-  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably 
portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull and 
get down to the facts.

-  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much with 
NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

-  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each 
company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised (especially 
when you can't get an evaluation unit).
Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

-Paul

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being frustrated. 
It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of functionality for 
all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an issue, but rather a 
limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better job of trying to 
identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution 
(if justified).

I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to 
those that expressed interest individually.

- Sean
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin 
seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of 
 technical
 requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
 on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
 uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
 platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows us 
 to
 weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be
 that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 
 requirement
 might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger cache.
This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we used 
 for our last storage purchase.
That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
 marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
 need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
 platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
 SCSI 3.

 - Sean

 On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember 
 mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
 I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.

 I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to that.

 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf

 Thanks,
 Mathew


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: EMC limitations?

 I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling
 limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than
 1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe
 to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol.

 I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's
 disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem.
 And,

Re: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker

*Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably
portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull
and get down to the facts.
*
*Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn’t provide an
eval.
*

I put a lot of stock in being able to get test/pilot devices.  The specs
are important, but not as much as interoperability with my environment.  If
I can't touch it in advance, it's not likely to get purchased...


* *

*ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
Technology for the SMB market…

*



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:

  We’re still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that
 frustrated me the most were:

 **-  **Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most
 favorably portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through
 the bull and get down to the facts.  

 **-  **It’s difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so
 much with NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own
 benchmarks.

 **-  **When you’re running a mixed environment of Windows and
 UNIX, each company will tell you it will work but you’ll always be
 surprised (especially when you can’t get an evaluation unit).

 Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn’t provide an eval.
 

 ** **

 -Paul

 ** **

 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: EMC limitations?

 ** **

 I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
 frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of
 functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily
 an issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a
 better job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to
 pitch a higher-end solution (if justified).

  

 I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template
 to those that expressed interest individually.

  

 - Sean

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
  to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of
 technical
  requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
  on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
  uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
  platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that
 allows us to
  weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement
 might be
  that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3
 requirement
  might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger
 cache.

 This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
 and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
 hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
 to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
 the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
 limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
 EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
 them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
 he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
 matter - I suggested another LH unit.


  It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we
 used for our last storage purchase.

 That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
 the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
 doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
 that raised my dander.


  - Sean
 
  On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
  purchase, methinks...
 
  Kurt
 

  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3***
 *

  protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
  limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
  marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
  need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
  platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
  SCSI 3.
 
  - Sean
 
  On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
  I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.
 
  I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to
 that.

Re: EMC limitations?

Now I'm beginning to worry what the expectations are. The template is just an 
excel spreadsheet with a list of features and capabilities with fields for 
indicating whether or not the feature is currently supported or in their 
roadmap and a field for further explanation.

Rather than trying to distribute a document to everyone, I'll just post the 
complete list of features to the list when I get into the office this morning. 
It'll give folks an opportunity to add anything not listed and then everyone 
will have a detailed matrix to work from and will be forced to prioritize the 
features for their own needs.

The 2-3 folks that have already received the template are free to copy the list 
as I'm still about an hour from arriving at the office.

- Sean

On Feb 8, 2012, at 4:14 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, as I'd like a copy as well. :-)
 
 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Kevin Lundy klu...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's beginning to look like DropBox or Google Docs might be in order for the 
 template :)
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Jonathan ncm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me four please! I'd love to see that template.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jonathan
 
 On Feb 8, 2012 2:00 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Understood. Out of curiousity, did you look into any other solutions other 
 than VNX and LeftHand?
  
 And, to respond to your comment about never outgrowing the unit, expect the 
 unexpected.
  
 I never thought we would outgrow the capabilities of the two CX700s arrays we 
 implemented in our first SAN solution. Six years later I'm retiring both of 
 those, two Celerra NAS gateways and a CX4-960. All the while deploying six 
 new Compellent arrays, 3 EqualLogics with FS7500 NAS Heads and working on a 
 recommendation for a purpose built Tier 1 solution.
  
 - Sean
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 No offense taken, and none meant on my part either - just some
 disagreement spiced a bit too heavily with the frustration. I do
 understand that caveat emptor applies, and that it would have been
 better if we'd done more research, but that bit of misdirection on
 their part was just a bit rich...
 
 Kurt
 
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 22:30, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
  frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of
  functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an
  issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better
  job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a
  higher-end solution (if justified).
 
  I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to
  those that expressed interest individually.
 
  - Sean
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
   Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
   to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of
   technical
   requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
   on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
   uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
   platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that
   allows us to
   weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement
   might be
   that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3
   requirement
   might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger
   cache.
 
  This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
  and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
  hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
  to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
  the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
  limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
  EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
  them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
  he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
  matter - I suggested another LH unit.
 
   It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we
   used for our last storage purchase.
 
  That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
  the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
  doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
  that raised my dander.
 
   - Sean
  
   On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
   purchase, methinks...
  
   Kurt
  
   On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin

Re: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Kevin Lundy

Hmm, I have had the opposite luck with EMC on eval units.  The last thing
we bought we were not sure about.  The sales rep said I'll bet you if I
put a demo in here, you won't let me take it out.  I called his bluff.  He
won the bet.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:

  We’re still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that
 frustrated me the most were:

 **-  **Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most
 favorably portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through
 the bull and get down to the facts.  

 **-  **It’s difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so
 much with NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own
 benchmarks.

 **-  **When you’re running a mixed environment of Windows and
 UNIX, each company will tell you it will work but you’ll always be
 surprised (especially when you can’t get an evaluation unit).

 Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn’t provide an eval.
 

 ** **

 -Paul

 ** **

 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: EMC limitations?

 ** **

 I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
 frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of
 functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily
 an issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a
 better job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to
 pitch a higher-end solution (if justified).

  

 I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template
 to those that expressed interest individually.

  

 - Sean

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
  to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of
 technical
  requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
  on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
  uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
  platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that
 allows us to
  weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement
 might be
  that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3
 requirement
  might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger
 cache.

 This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
 and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
 hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
 to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
 the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
 limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
 EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
 them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
 he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
 matter - I suggested another LH unit.


  It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we
 used for our last storage purchase.

 That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
 the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
 doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
 that raised my dander.


  - Sean
 
  On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
  purchase, methinks...
 
  Kurt
 

  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3***
 *

  protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
  limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
  marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
  need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
  platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
  SCSI 3.
 
  - Sean
 
  On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
  I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.
 
  I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to
 that.
 
 
 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf
 
  Thanks,
  Mathew
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: EMC limitations?
 

  I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a

RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Paul Hutchings

I can't think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies, damned 
lies, and statistics as the storage industry.

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 08 February 2012 14:43
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that 
frustrated me the most were:

-  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably 
portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull and 
get down to the facts.

-  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much with 
NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

-  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each 
company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised (especially 
when you can't get an evaluation unit).
Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

-Paul

From: Sean Martin 
[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being frustrated. 
It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of functionality for 
all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an issue, but rather a 
limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better job of trying to 
identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution 
(if justified).

I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to 
those that expressed interest individually.

- Sean
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin 
seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of 
 technical
 requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
 on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
 uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
 platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows us 
 to
 weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be
 that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 
 requirement
 might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger cache.
This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we used 
 for our last storage purchase.
That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
 marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
 need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
 platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
 SCSI 3.

 - Sean

 On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember 
 mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
 I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.

 I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to that.

 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf

 Thanks,
 Mathew

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: EMC limitations?

 I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling
 limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it

Re: EMC limitations?

ERP vendors.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Paul Hutchings
paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote:

  I can’t think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies,
 damned lies, and statistics as the storage industry.

 

 *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 *Sent:* 08 February 2012 14:43

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: EMC limitations?

  ** **

 We’re still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that
 frustrated me the most were:

 **-  **Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most
 favorably portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through
 the bull and get down to the facts.  

 **-  **It’s difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so
 much with NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own
 benchmarks.

 **-  **When you’re running a mixed environment of Windows and
 UNIX, each company will tell you it will work but you’ll always be
 surprised (especially when you can’t get an evaluation unit).

 Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn’t provide an eval.
 

 ** **

 -Paul

 ** **

 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: EMC limitations?

 ** **

 I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
 frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of
 functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily
 an issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a
 better job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to
 pitch a higher-end solution (if justified).

  

 I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template
 to those that expressed interest individually.

  

 - Sean

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
  to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of
 technical
  requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
  on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
  uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
  platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that
 allows us to
  weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement
 might be
  that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3
 requirement
  might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger
 cache.

 This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
 and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
 hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
 to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
 the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
 limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
 EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
 them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
 he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
 matter - I suggested another LH unit.


  It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we
 used for our last storage purchase.

 That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
 the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
 doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
 that raised my dander.


  - Sean
 
  On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
  purchase, methinks...
 
  Kurt
 

  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3***
 *

  protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
  limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
  marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
  need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
  platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
  SCSI 3.
 
  - Sean
 
  On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
  I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.
 
  I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to
 that.
 
 
 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf
 
  Thanks,
  Mathew
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: EMC

Re: EMC limitations?

It certainly isn't limited to EMC. The FUD that storage vendors will
throw around can be quite comical at times.

On 2/8/12, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote:
 I can't think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies,
 damned lies, and statistics as the storage industry.

 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 Sent: 08 February 2012 14:43
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

 We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that
 frustrated me the most were:

 -  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably
 portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull
 and get down to the facts.

 -  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much
 with NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

 -  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each
 company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised
 (especially when you can't get an evaluation unit).
 Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

 -Paul

 From: Sean Martin
 [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

 I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
 frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of
 functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an
 issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better
 job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a
 higher-end solution (if justified).

 I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to
 those that expressed interest individually.

 - Sean
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of
 technical
 requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
 on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
 uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
 platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows
 us to
 weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might
 be
 that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3
 requirement
 might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger
 cache.
 This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
 and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
 hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
 to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
 the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
 limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
 EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
 them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
 he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
 matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we
 used for our last storage purchase.
 That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
 the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
 doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
 that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
 marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
 need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
 platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
 SCSI 3.

 - Sean

 On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember
 mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
 I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.

 I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to
 that.

 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf

 Thanks,
 Mathew

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff
 [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday,

Re: EMC limitations?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
  Find out what other ways can you use it (other than iSCSI), and what
 the limits are then.  That information may be helpful.

 It does SAN, but I quite leery about it.

  (I assume you mean SMB.)  They've given you reason to be leery.
But, for investigation purposes, trying out other modes of operation
might give insight into this problem, if nothing else.  If this was
pre-sales I'd recommend just crossing them off the list, but I presume
you're stuck with the thing now, and have to make it work as best you
can.

 And, that's part of the reason I asked - if this unit's bigger
 brethren can handle studly GPT volumes as well as Win2k3 can, then
 it's truly a bad decision to hold back on it for market
 differentiation.

  Your company bought it anyway, so maybe not.

-- Ben

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Re: EMC limitations?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Manager had experience with EMC in his previous company and didn't
 want to look at anything else ...

  Seems like the LUN size limitation should be your manager's problem
then, right?

  [pause for laughter]

-- Ben

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Storage Feature Matrix

Ok folks,

Here's a compiled list of features and capabilities in no particular
order. Some of these references may be specific to a certain brand but
it allowed us to match capabilities between solutions where the only
difference was what they called it.

Sub LUN Tiering
Staged cache
iSCSI support
Storage Virtualization technology
One-to-one Replication
VAAI Support
Vcenter integration
Advanced Reporting Engine
Local Parts depot (this is an important question for those of us in Alaska)
Snapshot support
One-to-Many Replication
Synchronous replication
Encypted Data Presentation
SAS II Support
FC Support
FCoE Support
AIX support
Large Cache Support
MSSQL VSS
SharePoint VSS
Exchange VSS
Simple Management Interface
Red Hat Linux MPIO Support
Deduplication
HW generation upgrades
Non-Volatile Cache
Vmware MPIO (DSM)
SRM support (SRA)
NTFS Thin provisioned reclamation
VMWare Snapshot integration
Boot from SAN Integration
Citrix Xen Server  Storage Link Support
64-bit OS
Compression
NAS Support
Self-Encrypting Disk
Centralized Agent/MPIO support
Oracle integration
VMware Storage Resource Management Tools
OS integration with VMware
Snapshot and Replication Management
SRM Failback support
Metro/Stretch/Geo Clustering
QOS
VASA Support
Windows Integration
High Density DAE's
Replicator incremental attach
VAAI support for NFS
VAAI block enhancements
High bandwidth offering
2.5 drive support

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Re: EMC limitations?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can’t think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies,
 damned lies, and statistics as the storage industry.

 ERP vendors.

  They just lie.

-- Ben

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RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul

Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

I can't think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies, damned 
lies, and statistics as the storage industry.
From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 08 February 2012 14:43
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that 
frustrated me the most were:

-  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably 
portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull and 
get down to the facts.

-  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much with 
NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

-  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each 
company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised (especially 
when you can't get an evaluation unit).
Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

-Paul

From: Sean Martin 
[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being frustrated. 
It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of functionality for 
all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an issue, but rather a 
limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better job of trying to 
identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution 
(if justified).

I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to 
those that expressed interest individually.

- Sean
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin 
seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of 
 technical
 requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
 on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
 uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
 platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows us 
 to
 weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be
 that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 
 requirement
 might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger cache.
This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we used 
 for our last storage purchase.
That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
 marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
 need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
 platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
 SCSI 3.

 - Sean

 On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember 
 mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
 I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.

 I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to that.

 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf

 Thanks,
 Mathew

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff

RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Paul Hutchings

Agreed absolutely, if it came across that way that wasn't my intention.

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 February 2012 15:55
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

It certainly isn't limited to EMC. The FUD that storage vendors will throw 
around can be quite comical at times.

On 2/8/12, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote:
 I can't think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of 
 lies, damned lies, and statistics as the storage industry.

 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 Sent: 08 February 2012 14:43
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

 We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things 
 that frustrated me the most were:

 -  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably
 portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the 
 bull and get down to the facts.

 -  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much
 with NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

 -  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each
 company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised 
 (especially when you can't get an evaluation unit).
 Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

 -Paul

 From: Sean Martin
 [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]

 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

 I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being 
 frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack 
 of functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not 
 necessarily an issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller 
 would have done a better job of trying to identify your requirements 
 and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution (if justified).

 I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the 
 template to those that expressed interest individually.

 - Sean
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs 
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation 
 of technical requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. 
 It helps you put on paper what capabilities you need in a solution 
 and gives the vendor a uniform method of informing you of the 
 strengths and weaknesses of their platform. We typically tier our 
 requirements into 3 categories that allows us to weigh the importance 
 of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be that the 
 solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 
 requirement might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to 
 leverage larger cache.
 This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field, 
 and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser 
 hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given 
 to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have 
 the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this 
 limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between 
 EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used 
 them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep 
 he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the 
 matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template 
 we used for our last storage purchase.
 That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow 
 the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us 
 doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other 
 that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before 
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3 
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a 
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC 
 is marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. 
 They need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive 
 platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models 
 supported SCSI 3.

 - Sean

 On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember
 mathew.shem...@synopsys.commailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
 I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.

 I did

RE: NTDSUTIL...

2012-02-08 Thread Brian Desmond

It's always been the way it is if that's what you're asking...

You have to know where what you want is, which is a challenge, but, once you 
do, IMO the menu structure is reasonably easy to work with.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NTDSUTIL...

I'm guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it's powerful, but 
man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I'm getting the hang of it, but not sure if 
that's a good thing or bad thing.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: NTDSUTIL...

I'm thinking you haven't embrced powershell, yet, either...

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

 I’m guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it’s
 powerful, but man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I’m getting the hang of it,
 but not sure if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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RE: NTDSUTIL...

Just like netsh, if you know exactly what you are doing, you can shortcut it.

Just like netsh (even much more so, actually), if you do the wrong thing, you 
can screw things up badly.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NTDSUTIL...

I'm guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it's powerful, but 
man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I'm getting the hang of it, but not sure if 
that's a good thing or bad thing.
David Lum
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Re: Storage Feature Matrix

Here's the list of requirements we included in our recommendation. We
scored each solutions ability to meet these requirements on a 1-5
scale. Our technical requirements played a role in determining each
solutions ability to meet these requirements. The fun part was sitting
down as a group and hearing how each person interpreted these list of
requirements and why they scored each solution the way they did.

Architecture
Availability
Ease of use
Efficiency
Performance
Flexibility
Licensing
QOS
Reliability
Replication
Reporting/Monitoring
Security
Local Data Protection
Total Cost of Ownership
Scalability
Support
Hardware Life Cycle
Other 3rd Party Integration (ie Linux, Oracle…)
Microsoft Integration
VMware Integration


On 2/8/12, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok folks,

 Here's a compiled list of features and capabilities in no particular
 order. Some of these references may be specific to a certain brand but
 it allowed us to match capabilities between solutions where the only
 difference was what they called it.

 Sub LUN Tiering
 Staged cache
 iSCSI support
 Storage Virtualization technology
 One-to-one Replication
 VAAI Support
 Vcenter integration
 Advanced Reporting Engine
 Local Parts depot (this is an important question for those of us in Alaska)
 Snapshot support
 One-to-Many Replication
 Synchronous replication
 Encypted Data Presentation
 SAS II Support
 FC Support
 FCoE Support
 AIX support
 Large Cache Support
 MSSQL VSS
 SharePoint VSS
 Exchange VSS
 Simple Management Interface
 Red Hat Linux MPIO Support
 Deduplication
 HW generation upgrades
 Non-Volatile Cache
 Vmware MPIO (DSM)
 SRM support (SRA)
 NTFS Thin provisioned reclamation
 VMWare Snapshot integration
 Boot from SAN Integration
 Citrix Xen Server  Storage Link Support
 64-bit OS
 Compression
 NAS Support
 Self-Encrypting Disk
 Centralized Agent/MPIO support
 Oracle integration
 VMware Storage Resource Management Tools
 OS integration with VMware
 Snapshot and Replication Management
 SRM Failback support
 Metro/Stretch/Geo Clustering
 QOS
 VASA Support
 Windows Integration
 High Density DAE's
 Replicator incremental attach
 VAAI support for NFS
 VAAI block enhancements
 High bandwidth offering
 2.5 drive support


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Re: OT - ugh!

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?


Bill



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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:


I get that a lot. J

 


And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it – search on my
blog.

 


Regards,

 


Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 


*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

 


I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
already making some more contacts, which is cool.

Cheers,



JR

On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

 


Keep it up.

 

 


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 


*From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
*Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

*Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


*To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

 


Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
for the title for my blog.

Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

Cheers,




JR

On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
software with a LOT of options.

 


Thanks

 

 


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 


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mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
*Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Date: *Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:47 +


*To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

 


I actually have some natural talent as a writer (as opposed to
anything in IT which is completely learned). I might start a blog
concentrating on AppSense (which is woefully under-represented at
the moment, IMO)

 



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RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread John Cook

Tatooine Storage Products!

 John W. Cook
Network Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4, MCVP

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

I can't think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies, damned 
lies, and statistics as the storage industry.
From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 08 February 2012 14:43
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that 
frustrated me the most were:

-  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably 
portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull and 
get down to the facts.

-  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much with 
NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

-  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each 
company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised (especially 
when you can't get an evaluation unit).
Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

-Paul

From: Sean Martin 
[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being frustrated. 
It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of functionality for 
all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an issue, but rather a 
limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better job of trying to 
identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution 
(if justified).

I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to 
those that expressed interest individually.

- Sean
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin 
seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of 
 technical
 requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
 on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
 uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
 platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows us 
 to
 weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be
 that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 
 requirement
 might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger cache.
This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we used 
 for our last storage purchase.
That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
 marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
 need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
 platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
 SCSI 3.

 - Sean

 On 2/7/12, Mathew

Re: NTDSUTIL...

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 I’m guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it’s powerful,
 but man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I’m getting the hang of it, but not
 sure if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

  NTDSUTIL is a low-level, raw access, powerful sort of tool.
Generally you shouldn't be using it unless things are moderately badly
broken already.  In that kind of situation, you want as little
helpfulness between you and the data as possible.  You wouldn't be
using it if things weren't outside the expectations of the higher
level tools, so by definition you're in a situation where you're
claiming to be smarter than the higher level tools.

  The following excerpt from Neal Stephenson's essay, In the
Beginning... Was the Command Line, explains the sort of tool that
NTDSUTIL is.  NTDSUTIL is like the Hole Hawg.

= The Hole Hawg =

The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. If you
look in a typical hardware store you may find smaller Milwaukee drills
but not the Hole Hawg, which is too powerful and too expensive for
homeowners. The Hole Hawg does not have the pistol-like design of a
cheap homeowner's drill. It is a cube of solid metal with a handle
sticking out of one face and a chuck mounted in another. The cube
contains a disconcertingly potent electric motor. You can hold the
handle and operate the trigger with your index finger, but unless you
are exceptionally strong you cannot control the weight of the Hole
Hawg with one hand; it is a two-hander all the way. In order to fight
off the counter-torque of the Hole Hawg you use a separate handle
(provided), which you screw into one side of the iron cube or the
other depending on whether you are using your left or right hand to
operate the trigger. This handle is not a sleek, ergonomically
designed item as it would be in a homeowner's drill. It is simply a
foot-long chunk of regular galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, with
a black rubber handle on the other. If you lose it, you just go to the
local plumbing supply store and buy another chunk of pipe.

During the Eighties I did some construction work. One day, another
worker leaned a ladder against the outside of the building that we
were putting up, climbed up to the second-story level, and used the
Hole Hawg to drill a hole through the exterior wall. At some point,
the drill bit caught in the wall. The Hole Hawg, following its one and
only imperative, kept going. It spun the worker's body around like a
rag doll, causing him to knock his own ladder down. Fortunately he
kept his grip on the Hole Hawg, which remained lodged in the wall, and
he simply dangled from it and shouted for help until someone came
along and reinstated the ladder.

I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it
did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few
six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I
chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down
between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the
first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and
whined to spin the huge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest
obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a
spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun
itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel
pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded
by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw
itself, though not so badly that I couldn't use it. After a few such
run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began
to pound with atavistic terror.

But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is
dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound
by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and
neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a
homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger
lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision
the full consequences of the instructions he gives to it.

A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different
reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that
is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is
like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his
master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited
power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences.

= END EXCERPT =

(Original essay In the Beginning... Was the Command Line copyright
1999 by Neal Stephenson; available online freely at
http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html.  Above text copied from
 The Command Line in 2004,  copyright 2004 by Garrett Birkel;
available online freely at
http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/commandline/index.html.  Reproduction
with

RE: South Florida position.

2012-02-08 Thread Groups

EXTREMELY informative and helpful.

Thank you very much!

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: South Florida position.

As a business owner of a small IT consultancy in Boca Raton, you probably
could find an entry level person for about 25/hr, but you would need to
include/reimburse for mileage.

If you look in the South Florida Business Journal, you will see that IT
networking is @ 3% unemployment and application programmers here are under
1%. So you basically have to get technical people through attrition (i.e.
take them from somewhere else). 

I just had a client of ours get shutdown by the government (foreclosure
business) , and they had 5 help desk guys and an IT manager. All of them
found jobs making 55-75k with bonuses, 2 weeks vacation, 401k etc.  The IT
manager went to a bank where he became one of the back end engineers for low
80s if I recall.  These guys are all in Hollywood, right in the middle of
where you are looking to hire. 

This isn't meant to be anything more than information from someone who
lives, and works in IT down here .  You can probably find someone who is
willing to do the job within your range, but I would expect a decent
turnover rate because once they get 6-8 months experience they would likely
be picked up by a competitor (me! J ) .  Our two help desk (9-5 in the
office remote 90% of the time) make in the low 50s with 401k and flexible
time schedules .

I hope that helps . 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: South Florida position.

YG(t)BFKM

On Monday, February 6, 2012,  gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:
 sarcasm off

 There was sarcasm there at all.

 /sarcasm off

 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: South Florida position.

 Your sarcasm does not help your post.  Plus, I worked a year in Fort
Lauderdale.  I am politely refraining from openly talking shit about your
company.

 --
 Espi

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:00 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:

 Guys,

 THANK YOU for your input.

 It REALLY is constructive.

 And, if you know someone willing to start with low pay and grow (skipping
the sales part as it's an added bonus anyhow), please let us know.

 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:05 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: South Florida position.

 You need to seriously reassess your compensation.  Its way out of balance
with your expectations.

 --
 Espi

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote:

 Folks,

 I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail.
 We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us.
 If you know anyone, please forward this to them.

 Thanks!

 On-Site Computer Field Technician  Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura,
North Miami Beach)

 Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the
qualifications listed below.

 Job Purpose:
 Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site  Over-the-phone
services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing
diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup,
operating system installation, end user software support.
 Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre 
post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by
researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing
resources.
 Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing  advertising
materials for use by the company.
 In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to
actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of
Two signed maintenance agreements per month.

 Duties:
 - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to
requests.
 - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management
of needed actions.
 - Update job knowledge by parti

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RE: OT - ugh!

Well?  I started one on my virtualization adventures.  Like Michael I use it 
mainly for personal reference.  

Leaving it to error messages and wordpress.  Activity has been rather light.  I 
get about 5-10 a day.   It's interesting to see where the hits come from. 

SEO can't hurt especially if you want greater traffic.

Thanks,
Mathew


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you just 
put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

Bill



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 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 I get that a lot. J

  

 And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
 know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it - search on my
 blog.

  

 Regards,

  

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

  

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

  

 I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
 actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
 drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
 on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
 be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
 already making some more contacts, which is cool.

 Cheers,



 JR

 On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

  

 Keep it up.

  

  

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

  

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

  

 Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
 I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

 Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
 for the title for my blog.

 Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

 Cheers,




 JR

 On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
 CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
 software with a LOT of options.

  

 Thanks

  

  

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

  

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Date: *Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:47 +


 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

  

 I actually have some natural talent as a writer (as opposed to
 anything in IT which is completely learned). I might start a blog
 concentrating on AppSense (which is woefully under-represented at
 the moment, IMO)

  


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RE: EMC limitations?

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Thanks,
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From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

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From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

I can't think of too many sectors that seem to have such a mix of lies, damned 
lies, and statistics as the storage industry.
From: Maglinger, Paul 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: 08 February 2012 14:43
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EMC limitations?

We're still going through a storage upgrade migration.  The things that 
frustrated me the most were:

-  Each company uses metrics on their spec pages that most favorably 
portray their product.  It takes time and effort to sort through the bull and 
get down to the facts.

-  It's difficult as heck (especially from EMC, not quite so much with 
NetApp) to get an evaluation unit so you can run your own benchmarks.

-  When you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, each 
company will tell you it will work but you'll always be surprised (especially 
when you can't get an evaluation unit).
Incidentally, EMC lost a sale to us because they wouldn't provide an eval.

-Paul

From: Sean Martin 
[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being frustrated. 
It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of functionality for 
all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an issue, but rather a 
limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better job of trying to 
identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a higher-end solution 
(if justified).

I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to 
those that expressed interest individually.

- Sean
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin 
seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
 to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of 
 technical
 requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put
 on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a
 uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their
 platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that allows us 
 to
 weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement might be
 that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 
 requirement
 might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger cache.
This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
matter - I suggested another LH unit.

 It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we used 
 for our last storage purchase.
That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
that raised my dander.

 - Sean

 On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
 purchase, methinks...

 Kurt

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin 
 seanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
 protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
 limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
 marketing it as an entry level

Re: NTDSUTIL...

2012-02-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker

Well, there are few other ways to migrate, say, the Schema Master role...

* *

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Technology for the SMB market…

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
  I’m guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it’s
 powerful,
  but man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I’m getting the hang of it, but not
  sure if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

   NTDSUTIL is a low-level, raw access, powerful sort of tool.
 Generally you shouldn't be using it unless things are moderately badly
 broken already.  In that kind of situation, you want as little
 helpfulness between you and the data as possible.  You wouldn't be
 using it if things weren't outside the expectations of the higher
 level tools, so by definition you're in a situation where you're
 claiming to be smarter than the higher level tools.

  The following excerpt from Neal Stephenson's essay, In the
 Beginning... Was the Command Line, explains the sort of tool that
 NTDSUTIL is.  NTDSUTIL is like the Hole Hawg.

 = The Hole Hawg =

 The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. If you
 look in a typical hardware store you may find smaller Milwaukee drills
 but not the Hole Hawg, which is too powerful and too expensive for
 homeowners. The Hole Hawg does not have the pistol-like design of a
 cheap homeowner's drill. It is a cube of solid metal with a handle
 sticking out of one face and a chuck mounted in another. The cube
 contains a disconcertingly potent electric motor. You can hold the
 handle and operate the trigger with your index finger, but unless you
 are exceptionally strong you cannot control the weight of the Hole
 Hawg with one hand; it is a two-hander all the way. In order to fight
 off the counter-torque of the Hole Hawg you use a separate handle
 (provided), which you screw into one side of the iron cube or the
 other depending on whether you are using your left or right hand to
 operate the trigger. This handle is not a sleek, ergonomically
 designed item as it would be in a homeowner's drill. It is simply a
 foot-long chunk of regular galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, with
 a black rubber handle on the other. If you lose it, you just go to the
 local plumbing supply store and buy another chunk of pipe.

 During the Eighties I did some construction work. One day, another
 worker leaned a ladder against the outside of the building that we
 were putting up, climbed up to the second-story level, and used the
 Hole Hawg to drill a hole through the exterior wall. At some point,
 the drill bit caught in the wall. The Hole Hawg, following its one and
 only imperative, kept going. It spun the worker's body around like a
 rag doll, causing him to knock his own ladder down. Fortunately he
 kept his grip on the Hole Hawg, which remained lodged in the wall, and
 he simply dangled from it and shouted for help until someone came
 along and reinstated the ladder.

 I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it
 did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few
 six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I
 chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down
 between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the
 first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and
 whined to spin the huge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest
 obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a
 spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun
 itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel
 pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded
 by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw
 itself, though not so badly that I couldn't use it. After a few such
 run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began
 to pound with atavistic terror.

 But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is
 dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound
 by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and
 neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a
 homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger
 lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision
 the full consequences of the instructions he gives to it.

 A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different
 reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that
 is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is
 like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his
 master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited
 power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences.

 = END EXCERPT =

 (Original essay In

Re: NTDSUTIL...

2012-02-08 Thread Steven Peck

I can fully and painfully witness that the Hole Hawg is in fact exactly as
described.
Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
  I’m guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it’s
 powerful,
  but man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I’m getting the hang of it, but not
  sure if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

   NTDSUTIL is a low-level, raw access, powerful sort of tool.
 Generally you shouldn't be using it unless things are moderately badly
 broken already.  In that kind of situation, you want as little
 helpfulness between you and the data as possible.  You wouldn't be
 using it if things weren't outside the expectations of the higher
 level tools, so by definition you're in a situation where you're
 claiming to be smarter than the higher level tools.

  The following excerpt from Neal Stephenson's essay, In the
 Beginning... Was the Command Line, explains the sort of tool that
 NTDSUTIL is.  NTDSUTIL is like the Hole Hawg.

 = The Hole Hawg =

 The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. If you
 look in a typical hardware store you may find smaller Milwaukee drills
 but not the Hole Hawg, which is too powerful and too expensive for
 homeowners. The Hole Hawg does not have the pistol-like design of a
 cheap homeowner's drill. It is a cube of solid metal with a handle
 sticking out of one face and a chuck mounted in another. The cube
 contains a disconcertingly potent electric motor. You can hold the
 handle and operate the trigger with your index finger, but unless you
 are exceptionally strong you cannot control the weight of the Hole
 Hawg with one hand; it is a two-hander all the way. In order to fight
 off the counter-torque of the Hole Hawg you use a separate handle
 (provided), which you screw into one side of the iron cube or the
 other depending on whether you are using your left or right hand to
 operate the trigger. This handle is not a sleek, ergonomically
 designed item as it would be in a homeowner's drill. It is simply a
 foot-long chunk of regular galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, with
 a black rubber handle on the other. If you lose it, you just go to the
 local plumbing supply store and buy another chunk of pipe.

 During the Eighties I did some construction work. One day, another
 worker leaned a ladder against the outside of the building that we
 were putting up, climbed up to the second-story level, and used the
 Hole Hawg to drill a hole through the exterior wall. At some point,
 the drill bit caught in the wall. The Hole Hawg, following its one and
 only imperative, kept going. It spun the worker's body around like a
 rag doll, causing him to knock his own ladder down. Fortunately he
 kept his grip on the Hole Hawg, which remained lodged in the wall, and
 he simply dangled from it and shouted for help until someone came
 along and reinstated the ladder.

 I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it
 did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few
 six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I
 chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down
 between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the
 first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and
 whined to spin the huge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest
 obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a
 spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun
 itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel
 pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded
 by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw
 itself, though not so badly that I couldn't use it. After a few such
 run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began
 to pound with atavistic terror.

 But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is
 dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound
 by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and
 neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a
 homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger
 lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision
 the full consequences of the instructions he gives to it.

 A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different
 reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that
 is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is
 like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his
 master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited
 power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences.

 = END EXCERPT =

 (Original essay In the Beginning... Was the Command Line copyright
 1999 by Neal

Re: OT - ugh!

2012-02-08 Thread Steven Peck

Unless you are attempting to game the system, the best SEO is to have a
well structured code and content people want to read and reference (link
to).  Being consistent in content significantly helps as well.  Pretty much
any modern blog or CMS will do this for you.
Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you
 just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

 Bill



 Andrew S. Baker wrote:

 Amen.

 **
 *ASB*
 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…

 *





 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.commailto:
 mich...@smithcons.com** wrote:

I get that a lot. J


And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it – search on my
blog.


Regards,


Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.**com http://TheEssentialExchange.com


*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com**]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!



I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
already making some more contacts, which is cool.

Cheers,



JR

On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com

mailto:webster@carlwebster.**com webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!


Keep it up.



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/


*From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com**
*Reply-To: *NT Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-**software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.**sunbelt-software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

*Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


*To: *NT Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-**software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.**sunbelt-software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
*Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!



Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
for the title for my blog.

Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.**comhttp://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

Cheers,




JR

On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webster@carlwebster.**com webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
software with a LOT of options.


Thanks



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/


*From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com**
*Reply-To: *NT Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-**software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.**sunbelt-software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
*Date: *Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:47 +


*To: *NT Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-**software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.**sunbelt-software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
*Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!



I actually have some natural talent as a writer (as opposed to
anything in IT which is completely learned). I might start a blog
concentrating on AppSense (which is woefully under-represented at
the moment, IMO)



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Re: OT - ugh!

What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on
the 1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do
this on Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/






On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

Bill



Andrew S. Baker wrote:
 Amen.

 **
 *ASB*
 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB marketŠ

 *




 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 I get that a lot. J

  

 And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
 know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
 blog.

  

 Regards,

  

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

  

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

  

 I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
 actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
 drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
 on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
 be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
 already making some more contacts, which is cool.

 Cheers,



 JR

 On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

  

 Keep it up.

  

  

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

  

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

  

 Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
 I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

 Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
 for the title for my blog.

 Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

 Cheers,




 JR

 On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
 CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
 software with a LOT of options.

 



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RE: NTDSUTIL...

2012-02-08 Thread David Lum

I figure it's always been that way, was just commenting on it really. On the 
PowerShell - correct, for better or worse I can still accomplish 95% of what I 
need with cmd.exe and batch files. Create AD accounts, shares, set home 
directories and permissions on them, run Systernals tools like psexec and push 
stuff with SMS is what I typically do in batch.

At least the NTDSUTIL process makes sense once you do use it a few times.

I know just enough PowerShell to look at a PS file and largely know what it's 
doing and can modify existing to fit. My mad scripting skills ended when I 
stopped using KiXtart five years ago (corresponded with me getting 
%currentdayjob%) - I was able to so pretty neat stuff with it back in the day - 
it was how I did SMS-y stuff without actually having SMS. Need the IE version 
of all systems and push out some software and uninstall others, no sweat.

I am of the belief that scripting skills is one thing that separates good 
admins from great ones. I don't know admins that are both great and don't know 
scripting of some kind or another.

Ben S - good point, and kind of what I was thinking. With an SBS swing you're 
in both ADSIEdit and NTDSUTIL. And since I am practicing the swing in my lab 
several times so I have it mostly by heart I'm in both of those tools a lot 
recently.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTDSUTIL...

I'm thinking you haven't embrced powershell, yet, either...
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
I'm guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it's powerful, but 
man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I'm getting the hang of it, but not sure if 
that's a good thing or bad thing.

David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 
503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764


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Re: NTDSUTIL...

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
  NTDSUTIL is a low-level, raw access, powerful sort of tool.
 Generally you shouldn't be using it unless things are moderately badly
 broken already.

 Well, there are few other ways to migrate, say, the Schema Master role...

  Don't ruin a good analogy with minor details.  ;-)

-- Ben

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RE: NTDSUTIL...

2012-02-08 Thread Brian Desmond

There are some useful things in there that aren't available anywhere else like 
the group membership evaluator or snapshotting. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTDSUTIL...

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 I'm guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it's 
 powerful, but man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I'm getting the hang of 
 it, but not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing.

  NTDSUTIL is a low-level, raw access, powerful sort of tool.
Generally you shouldn't be using it unless things are moderately badly broken 
already.  In that kind of situation, you want as little helpfulness between 
you and the data as possible.  You wouldn't be using it if things weren't 
outside the expectations of the higher level tools, so by definition you're in 
a situation where you're claiming to be smarter than the higher level tools.

  The following excerpt from Neal Stephenson's essay, In the Beginning... Was 
the Command Line, explains the sort of tool that NTDSUTIL is.  NTDSUTIL is 
like the Hole Hawg.

= The Hole Hawg =

The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. If you look in a 
typical hardware store you may find smaller Milwaukee drills but not the Hole 
Hawg, which is too powerful and too expensive for homeowners. The Hole Hawg 
does not have the pistol-like design of a cheap homeowner's drill. It is a cube 
of solid metal with a handle sticking out of one face and a chuck mounted in 
another. The cube contains a disconcertingly potent electric motor. You can 
hold the handle and operate the trigger with your index finger, but unless you 
are exceptionally strong you cannot control the weight of the Hole Hawg with 
one hand; it is a two-hander all the way. In order to fight off the 
counter-torque of the Hole Hawg you use a separate handle (provided), which you 
screw into one side of the iron cube or the other depending on whether you are 
using your left or right hand to operate the trigger. This handle is not a 
sleek, ergonomically designed item as it would be in a homeowner's drill. It is 
simply a foot-long chunk of regular galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, with 
a black rubber handle on the other. If you lose it, you just go to the local 
plumbing supply store and buy another chunk of pipe.

During the Eighties I did some construction work. One day, another worker 
leaned a ladder against the outside of the building that we were putting up, 
climbed up to the second-story level, and used the Hole Hawg to drill a hole 
through the exterior wall. At some point, the drill bit caught in the wall. The 
Hole Hawg, following its one and only imperative, kept going. It spun the 
worker's body around like a rag doll, causing him to knock his own ladder down. 
Fortunately he kept his grip on the Hole Hawg, which remained lodged in the 
wall, and he simply dangled from it and shouted for help until someone came 
along and reinstated the ladder.

I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a 
blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes 
through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up 
to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and 
began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill 
had labored and whined to spin the huge bit around, and had stalled at the 
slightest obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a 
spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun itself and me 
around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel pipe handle and a joist, 
producing a few lacerations, each surrounded by a wide corona of deeply bruised 
flesh. It also bent the hole saw itself, though not so badly that I couldn't 
use it. After a few such run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my 
heart actually began to pound with atavistic terror.

But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is dangerous 
because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound by the physical 
limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and neither is it limited by 
safety interlocks that might be built into a homeowner's product by a 
liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger lies not in the machine itself but 
in the user's failure to envision the full consequences of the instructions he 
gives to it.

A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different
reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that is 
unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is like the 
genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his master's instructions 
literally and precisely and with

RE: OT - ugh!

Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

That's assume.  :)

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was able 
to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am fast 
approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of my 
articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the 1st 
day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on Feb. 
1st so I don't have current counts.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com 
http://www.carlwebster.com/

On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
 Amen.

 **
 *ASB*
 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB marketŠ

 *

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 I get that a lot. J

 And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
 know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
 blog.

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

 I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
 actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
 drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
 on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
 be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
 already making some more contacts, which is cool.

 Cheers,

 JR

 On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

 Keep it up.

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +

 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

 Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
 I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

 Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
 for the title for my blog.

 Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

 Cheers,

 JR

 On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
 CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
 software with a LOT of options.

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DNS and KB2508835

All,

This article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2508835

describes the problem fairly well.

After a while, some web sites just won't resolve - for us, it's
anything in the hilton.com domain and subdomains (perhaps others, but
the travel folks always scream, and nobody else has yet, so I can't be
sure).

The only workaround is to either restart the DNS Server service on
both of my DCs, or to clear cache on both.

Unfortunately, the hotfix doesn't seem to work - I applied it to both
DCs two weeks ago, and it just occurred again.

Is anyone experiencing this problem?

Also, the article above points to an article on DNS Cache Locking -
I'm about ready to turn locking down or off, but wondered how severe
others judge the threat of DNS cach poisoning to be.

It's more an annoyance than anything critical, at this point, but I
thought I'd explore it a bit.

Thoughts?

Kurt

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OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Christopher Bodnar

If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin 
with strong emphasis on SCCM. 

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.


If anyone is interested contact me offline for more info.

Thanks,

Christopher Bodnar 
Technical Support III, Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel 
Services 
Tel 610-807-6459 
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com 




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Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Do I have to attend Chamber of Commerce functions? :)


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:59:37 -0500
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin with 
strong emphasis on SCCM.

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.


If anyone is interested contact me offline for more info.


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Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Christopher Bodnar

Yes..yes you do.



Christopher Bodnar 
Technical Support III, Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel 
Services 
Tel 610-807-6459 
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com 




The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America

www.guardianlife.com 







From:   Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   02/08/2012 02:15 PM
Subject:Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania



Do I have to attend Chamber of Commerce functions? :)

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com

From: Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com
Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:59:37 -0500
To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin 
with strong emphasis on SCCM. 

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.


If anyone is interested contact me offline for more info.

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RE: DNS and KB2508835

A number of people have reported the issue even after the hotfix, in other 
forums. Some people are scripting DNS cache flushes and DNS Server restarts in 
the off hours.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS and KB2508835

All,

This article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2508835

describes the problem fairly well.

After a while, some web sites just won't resolve - for us, it's
anything in the hilton.com domain and subdomains (perhaps others, but
the travel folks always scream, and nobody else has yet, so I can't be
sure).

The only workaround is to either restart the DNS Server service on
both of my DCs, or to clear cache on both.

Unfortunately, the hotfix doesn't seem to work - I applied it to both
DCs two weeks ago, and it just occurred again.

Is anyone experiencing this problem?

Also, the article above points to an article on DNS Cache Locking -
I'm about ready to turn locking down or off, but wondered how severe
others judge the threat of DNS cach poisoning to be.

It's more an annoyance than anything critical, at this point, but I
thought I'd explore it a bit.

Thoughts?

Kurt

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OT:open directory

OK, i know this is way OT for many of you, but I know we have a few edu 
people around here that may use it.  I'm usually binding macs to AD, not 
OD so I'm not up on all the gotchas that Apple usually doesn't document 
very well.


I have a video production client we are preparing to install Xsan for.  
They have a Lion Xserver already in place.  They want to use Open 
Directory to better manage file access perms.  I have OD installed, ldap 
is advertised via DHCP and I have successfully bound a machine and 
logged in as a OD user on the workstation.  Problem is it doesn't work 
on every machine.  I have two laptops.  One is a Lion, one is Snow 
Leopard.  The SL laptop binds and allows a network user to login.  The 
Lion laptop fails to bind.  I get the getting server information then 
it goes to unable to add server.  connection failed to the directory 
server (2100). 


Any hints or help appreciated.

Thanks.

Bill

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RE: OT - ugh!

2012-02-08 Thread Jacob

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

That's assume.  :)

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the
1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on
Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com
http://www.carlwebster.com/

On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
 Amen.

 **
 *ASB*
 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB marketŠ

 *

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 I get that a lot. J

 And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
 know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
 blog.

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

 I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
 actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
 drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
 on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
 be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
 already making some more contacts, which is cool.

 Cheers,

 JR

 On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

 Keep it up.

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +

 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

 Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
 I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

 Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
 for the title for my blog.

 Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

 Cheers,

 JR

 On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
 CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
 software with a LOT of options.

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RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Jacob

Better benefits than where I currently work?

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Do I have to attend Chamber of Commerce functions? :)

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ 

From: Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com
Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:59:37 -0500
To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin with
strong emphasis on SCCM. 

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.

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Re: OT:open directory

2012-02-08 Thread Mike Sullivan

Did you already look at this thread?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3228321?start=0tstart=0

It looks like there are issues if your domain ends in a .local.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

OK, i know this is way OT for many of you, but I know we have a few edu
people around here that may use it. I'm usually binding macs to AD, not OD
so I'm not up on all the gotchas that Apple usually doesn't document very
well.

I have a video production client we are preparing to install Xsan for.
They have a Lion Xserver already in place. They want to use Open
Directory to better manage file access perms. I have OD installed, ldap is
advertised via DHCP and I have successfully bound a machine and logged in
as a OD user on the workstation. Problem is it doesn't work on every
machine. I have two laptops. One is a Lion, one is Snow Leopard. The SL
laptop binds and allows a network user to login. The Lion laptop fails to
bind. I get the getting server information then it goes to unable to
add server. connection failed to the directory server (2100).
Any hints or help appreciated.

Thanks.

Bill

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Re: OT:open directory

2012-02-08 Thread Matthew W. Ross

I have zero experience with the apple XSan product. Plus having your macs in a 
dual-directory setup can be tricky.

You might find more help with this topic on the Mac OS X Enterprise list:

http://lists.psu.edu/archives/macenterprise.html


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Wed, 08 Feb 2012
11:36:09 -0800
Subject: OT:open directory


 OK, i know this is way OT for many of you, but I know we have a few edu 
 people around here that may use it.  I'm usually binding macs to AD, not 
 OD so I'm not up on all the gotchas that Apple usually doesn't document 
 very well.
 
 I have a video production client we are preparing to install Xsan for.  
 They have a Lion Xserver already in place.  They want to use Open 
 Directory to better manage file access perms.  I have OD installed, ldap 
 is advertised via DHCP and I have successfully bound a machine and 
 logged in as a OD user on the workstation.  Problem is it doesn't work 
 on every machine.  I have two laptops.  One is a Lion, one is Snow 
 Leopard.  The SL laptop binds and allows a network user to login.  The 
 Lion laptop fails to bind.  I get the getting server information then 
 it goes to unable to add server.  connection failed to the directory 
 server (2100). 
 
 Any hints or help appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Bill
 
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RE: OT - ugh!

That I can also let my mom, dad, and 13-y/o look at? :-)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

That's assume.  :)



-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the
1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on
Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com
http://www.carlwebster.com/






On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

Bill



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 Amen.

 **
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 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 I get that a lot. J

  

 And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
 know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
 blog.

  

 Regards,

  

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

  

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

  

 I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
 actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
 drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
 on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
 be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
 already making some more contacts, which is cool.

 Cheers,



 JR

 On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

  

 Keep it up.

  

  

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

  

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

  

 Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
 I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

 Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
 for the title for my blog.

 Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

 Cheers,




 JR

 On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
 CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
 software with a LOT of options.

 



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RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread John Cook

Please to be detailing your current benefits.

 John W. Cook
Network Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4, MCVP

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Better benefits than where I currently work?

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Do I have to attend Chamber of Commerce functions? :)


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:59:37 -0500
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin with 
strong emphasis on SCCM.

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.


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Re: EMC limitations?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 07:57, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
  Find out what other ways can you use it (other than iSCSI), and what
 the limits are then.  That information may be helpful.

 It does SAN, but I quite leery about it.

  (I assume you mean SMB.)

Sorry - meant NAS, so yes, SMB/CIFS - fingers move quicker than the brain...

 They've given you reason to be leery.
 But, for investigation purposes, trying out other modes of operation
 might give insight into this problem, if nothing else.  If this was
 pre-sales I'd recommend just crossing them off the list, but I presume
 you're stuck with the thing now, and have to make it work as best you
 can.

There may be a workaround, by chaining together some LUNs (perhaps in
Windows, too), but that seems like a fugly hack to me.

 And, that's part of the reason I asked - if this unit's bigger
 brethren can handle studly GPT volumes as well as Win2k3 can, then
 it's truly a bad decision to hold back on it for market
 differentiation.

  Your company bought it anyway, so maybe not.

And I'm bitching about it on a list that is widely read, and where I
have a modicum of respect afforded my opinions, so I'll hold fast to
my thought on that...

Kurt

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Re: EMC limitations?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 07:59, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Manager had experience with EMC in his previous company and didn't
 want to look at anything else ...

  Seems like the LUN size limitation should be your manager's problem
 then, right?

  [pause for laughter]

A rueful, wistful chuckle at best...

Kurt

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RE: OT:open directory

Ninja'd.

The SSL part might be considered.  If it's not enabled, the laptops might have 
it enabled.

Try the commandline bind approach as well.

Thanks,
Mathew

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:open directory

Did you already look at this thread? 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3228321?start=0tstart=0

It looks like there are issues if your domain ends in a .local.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bill Humphries 
nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:
OK, i know this is way OT for many of you, but I know we have a few edu people 
around here that may use it.  I'm usually binding macs to AD, not OD so I'm not 
up on all the gotchas that Apple usually doesn't document very well.

I have a video production client we are preparing to install Xsan for.  They 
have a Lion Xserver already in place.  They want to use Open Directory to 
better manage file access perms.  I have OD installed, ldap is advertised via 
DHCP and I have successfully bound a machine and logged in as a OD user on the 
workstation.  Problem is it doesn't work on every machine.  I have two laptops. 
 One is a Lion, one is Snow Leopard.  The SL laptop binds and allows a network 
user to login.  The Lion laptop fails to bind.  I get the getting server 
information then it goes to unable to add server.  connection failed to the 
directory server (2100).
Any hints or help appreciated.

Thanks.

Bill

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Re: OT - ugh!

LOL, ummm do they do anything Citrix related?  Or is this more related
to the open directory thread? smirk


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On 2/8/12 10:36 AM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote:

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...



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Re: OT - ugh!

Pun intended?

- Sean

On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote:

 1 million views? That is all?
 
 I can offer content that will exploded your views...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:20 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT - ugh!
 
 Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P
 
 That's assume.  :)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT - ugh!
 
 What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
 able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
 Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
 fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
 my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the
 1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on
 Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.
 
 
 Carl Webster
 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com
 http://www.carlwebster.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:
 
 Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
 just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 Andrew S. Baker wrote:
 Amen.
 
 **
 *ASB*
 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB marketŠ
 
 *
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 
I get that a lot. J
 
 
 
And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
blog.
 
 
 
Regards,
 
 
 
Michael B. Smith
 
Consultant and Exchange MVP
 
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 
 
 
*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM
 
 
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!
 
 
 
I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
already making some more contacts, which is cool.
 
Cheers,
 
 
 
JR
 
On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
 
Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!
 
 
 
Keep it up.
 
 
 
 
 
Carl Webster
 
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
 
http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/
 
 
 
*From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
*Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
*Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +
 
 
*To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!
 
 
 
Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.
 
Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
for the title for my blog.
 
Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
 
Cheers,
 
 
 
 
JR
 
On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
 
PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
software with a LOT of options.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Phil Brutsche

I've worked with the EMC VNXe. The good parts:
 * They're fast
 * They're multiprotocol: They do iSCSI, NFS and CIFS/SMB. Theoretically, you 
could use one to replace a Windows or *NIX+Samba file server.
 * They integrate with enterprise backup solutions, so that your backup 
solution uses the integrated snapshot facility to read your data directly from 
the storage appliance

I've not used the CIFS feature, as I've only ever used them in conjunction with 
VMware vSphere aka ESXi, both as an iSCSI target and as an NFS server.

The limitation you mention is not the only one. I've not run into it, but it's 
one I'll keep a look out for. I speak from experience that the 1.99TB 
limitation is due to their iSCSI target. I've created 4TB NFS exports on one, 
using NL-SAS drives, for use with VMware.

Other stupid limitations:
 * They are VERY VERY STRICT about your allowable RAID configurations. For 
example, if you put 12x 1TB SAS drives in it, you have 2x 6 drive RAID6 arrays 
at roughly 4TB each. If you put 12x 15k SAS drives in it, you have 2x 5 drive 
RAID 5 arrays and 2 hot spares. Period. You have no other RAID set options.
 * As an iSCSI target, they don't multipath. Period. Redundancy is handled by 
migrating the iSCSI service (or NFS service, or CIFS service) between the 
controller cards.

Truly and honesty, if you want an entry-level iSCSI storage box your best bet 
is one of these devices:
 * Dell MD3200i
 * IBM DS3512
 * HP P2000 G3

All three of those boxes are the *exact same device*; the OEM is LSI. They are 
all just as fast as the EMC - faster even, since they support multipath! - and 
do not suffer from the arbitrary storage limitations of the EMC. The downside 
is they only support iSCSI (or SAS)... but you can also say they do one thing 
and do that one thing VERY well.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EMC limitations?

I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling 
limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than 
1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe to 
the implementation of the SCSI II protocol.

I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's 
disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem.
And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all.

Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this limitation?

Kurt

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Re: DNS and KB2508835

Well, at least it's good to know that I'm not alone.

I think I'll set up a batch file to run a couple of days a week to
flush cache - that should be pretty benign.

Thanks,

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:31, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 A number of people have reported the issue even after the hotfix, in other 
 forums. Some people are scripting DNS cache flushes and DNS Server restarts 
 in the off hours.

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 Consultant and Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:58 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: DNS and KB2508835

 All,

 This article:

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2508835

 describes the problem fairly well.

 After a while, some web sites just won't resolve - for us, it's
 anything in the hilton.com domain and subdomains (perhaps others, but
 the travel folks always scream, and nobody else has yet, so I can't be
 sure).

 The only workaround is to either restart the DNS Server service on
 both of my DCs, or to clear cache on both.

 Unfortunately, the hotfix doesn't seem to work - I applied it to both
 DCs two weeks ago, and it just occurred again.

 Is anyone experiencing this problem?

 Also, the article above points to an article on DNS Cache Locking -
 I'm about ready to turn locking down or off, but wondered how severe
 others judge the threat of DNS cach poisoning to be.

 It's more an annoyance than anything critical, at this point, but I
 thought I'd explore it a bit.

 Thoughts?

 Kurt

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RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Jeff Brown

And please don't be too concerned about boring us with the details.  ;)

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Please to be detailing your current benefits.

 John W. Cook
Network Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4, MCVP

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Better benefits than where I currently work?

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

Do I have to attend Chamber of Commerce functions? :)

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Christopher Bodnar 
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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:59:37 -0500
To: NT Issues 
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Subject: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin with 
strong emphasis on SCCM.

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.

If anyone is interested contact me offline for more info.

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Re: OT - ugh!

Sure, haven't you heard of Naked Fruit?

http://www.nakedjuice.com/


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On 2/8/12 10:49 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

That I can also let my mom, dad, and 13-y/o look at? :-)

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Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...

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Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

That's assume.  :)




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Re: OT - ugh!

2012-02-08 Thread Steven Peck

They might have question about what that guy was doing with a squirrel

2012/2/8 Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com

 That I can also let my mom, dad, and 13-y/o look at? :-)

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 1 million views? That is all?

 I can offer content that will exploded your views...

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:20 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

 Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

 That's assume.  :)



 -Original Message-
 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

 What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
 able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
 Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
 fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
 my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the
 1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this
 on
 Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.


 Carl Webster
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 On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

 Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you
 just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 Andrew S. Baker wrote:
  Amen.
 
  **
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  *
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith
  mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 
  I get that a lot. J
 
 
 
  And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
  know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
  blog.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  Michael B. Smith
 
  Consultant and Exchange MVP
 
  http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 
 
 
  *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
  mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM
 
 
  *To:* NT System Admin Issues
  *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!
 
 
 
  I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
  actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
  drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
  on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
  be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
  already making some more contacts, which is cool.
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 
  JR
 
  On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
  mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
 
  Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!
 
 
 
  Keep it up.
 
 
 
 
 
  Carl Webster
 
  Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
 
  http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/
 
 
 
  *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
  mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
  *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
  *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +
 
 
  *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!
 
 
 
  Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
  I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.
 
  Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
  for the title for my blog.
 
  Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
  http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 
 
  JR
 
  On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
  mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
 
  PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
  CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
  software with a LOT of options.
 
 



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Re: EMC limitations?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 There may be a workaround, by chaining together some LUNs (perhaps in
 Windows, too), but that seems like a fugly hack to me.

  Hmmm, that's interesting.  If the problem is that their iSCSI
implementation is written for the SCSI-2 command set, then aggregating
LUNs *in the device* wouldn't help.  You'd still be stuck with a
32-bit LBA, as far as I know.  (Appending LUNs in Windows would be a
different story.)

  As far as ugly hack... if this was a legitimate limitation, I'd
say aggregating LUNs would be an appropriate solution.  If a single
disk isn't big enough, we aggregate multiple disks (and call it
RAID).  Using the same strategy for a limitation at the SCSI
protocol level that does not exist at a higher level of the OS is a
very legitimate approach.

  That said, I suspect this is a purely artificial limitation.  As
noted, SCSI-2 is twenty years old.  I believe SBC-1 introduced 64-bit
LBAs, and that was released in 1997 -- fifteen years ago.  The iSCSI
specification appears to be RFC-3720, which wasn't published until
2004.  There's no way EMC was unaware of this.

 it's truly a bad decision to hold back on it for market differentiation.

  Your company bought it anyway, so maybe not.

 And I'm bitching about it on a list that is widely read, and where I
 have a modicum of respect afforded my opinions, so I'll hold fast to
 my thought on that...

  We can hope.  In my experience, PHB trumps BOFH every time, but we
can hope.  Even the losers get lucky sometimes.[1]

-- Ben

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Re: OT:open directory


bingo. the lion client doesn't like the ssl.

i'm using a self signed cert right now. apple is so bizzare. told it not 
to not trust the cert and it ignored the cert, but connected this time.


Bill


Ninja’d.

The SSL part might be considered. If it’s not enabled, the laptops 
might have it enabled.


Try the commandline bind approach as well…..

Thanks,

Mathew

*From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:45 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT:open directory

Did you already look at this thread? 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3228321?start=0tstart=0 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3228321?start=0tstart=0


It looks like there are issues if your domain ends in a .local.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:


OK, i know this is way OT for many of you, but I know we have a few 
edu people around here that may use it. I'm usually binding macs to 
AD, not OD so I'm not up on all the gotchas that Apple usually doesn't 
document very well.


I have a video production client we are preparing to install Xsan for. 
They have a Lion Xserver already in place. They want to use Open 
Directory to better manage file access perms. I have OD installed, 
ldap is advertised via DHCP and I have successfully bound a machine 
and logged in as a OD user on the workstation. Problem is it doesn't 
work on every machine. I have two laptops. One is a Lion, one is Snow 
Leopard. The SL laptop binds and allows a network user to login. The 
Lion laptop fails to bind. I get the getting server information then 
it goes to unable to add server. connection failed to the directory 
server (2100).

Any hints or help appreciated.

Thanks.

Bill

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RE: OT - ugh!

2012-02-08 Thread Jacob

Unfortunately no... VMWare and RDP

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

LOL, ummm do they do anything Citrix related?  Or is this more related to
the open directory thread? smirk

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On 2/8/12 10:36 AM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote:

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...

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Re: OT - ugh!


heh.  i might start reading webster's blog.

Bill

Jacob wrote:

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:20 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

That's assume.  :)



-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the
1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on
Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com
http://www.carlwebster.com/






On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

  
Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?


Bill



Andrew S. Baker wrote:


Amen.

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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:


I get that a lot. J

 


And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
blog.

 


Regards,

 


Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 


*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

 


I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
already making some more contacts, which is cool.

Cheers,



JR

On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

 


Keep it up.

 

 


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 


*From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
*Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

*Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


*To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

 


Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
for the title for my blog.

Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

Cheers,




JR

On 6 February 2012 20:49, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
software with a LOT of options.


  




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Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Alex Eckelberry

If you want a response to this post, simply add that you're paying $12-$25 per 
hour and require the creation of sales and marketing materials as well as sales 
of maintenance agreements (in addition to representation at Chamber of Commerce 
meetings) 

The last post was fun to watch. 


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 If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin with 
 strong emphasis on SCCM. 
 
 Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA. 
 
 
 If anyone is interested contact me offline for more info. 
 
 Thanks, 
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 Tel 610-807-6459  
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Re: EMC limitations?

Thanks for the further data.

I'm going to agitate that we don't do much in the way of upgrading
this unit, and let it run its course as it is - maybe give it to the
engineers for their lab.

I didn't want to bring up the RAID6-only madness with their large SAS
(what they call Near-line SAS) drives - that's a whole other level of
stupid.

I didn't know about RAID5 madness.

Have you extended the unit with more trays? if so, do the same kinds
of limitations on on RAID apply?

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:02, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
 I've worked with the EMC VNXe. The good parts:
  * They're fast
  * They're multiprotocol: They do iSCSI, NFS and CIFS/SMB. Theoretically, you 
 could use one to replace a Windows or *NIX+Samba file server.
  * They integrate with enterprise backup solutions, so that your backup 
 solution uses the integrated snapshot facility to read your data directly 
 from the storage appliance

 I've not used the CIFS feature, as I've only ever used them in conjunction 
 with VMware vSphere aka ESXi, both as an iSCSI target and as an NFS server.

 The limitation you mention is not the only one. I've not run into it, but 
 it's one I'll keep a look out for. I speak from experience that the 1.99TB 
 limitation is due to their iSCSI target. I've created 4TB NFS exports on one, 
 using NL-SAS drives, for use with VMware.

 Other stupid limitations:
  * They are VERY VERY STRICT about your allowable RAID configurations. For 
 example, if you put 12x 1TB SAS drives in it, you have 2x 6 drive RAID6 
 arrays at roughly 4TB each. If you put 12x 15k SAS drives in it, you have 2x 
 5 drive RAID 5 arrays and 2 hot spares. Period. You have no other RAID set 
 options.
  * As an iSCSI target, they don't multipath. Period. Redundancy is handled by 
 migrating the iSCSI service (or NFS service, or CIFS service) between the 
 controller cards.

 Truly and honesty, if you want an entry-level iSCSI storage box your best bet 
 is one of these devices:
  * Dell MD3200i
  * IBM DS3512
  * HP P2000 G3

 All three of those boxes are the *exact same device*; the OEM is LSI. They 
 are all just as fast as the EMC - faster even, since they support multipath! 
 - and do not suffer from the arbitrary storage limitations of the EMC. The 
 downside is they only support iSCSI (or SAS)... but you can also say they do 
 one thing and do that one thing VERY well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: EMC limitations?

 I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling 
 limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than 
 1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe 
 to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol.

 I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's 
 disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem.
 And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all.

 Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this limitation?

 Kurt

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Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

My, we're sure drilling him deep over his benefits package...
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Jeff Brown jbr...@webcoindustries.comwrote:

  And please don’t be too concerned about boring us with the details.  ;)**
 **

 ** **

 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:50 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

  ** **

 Please to be detailing your current benefits.

 ** **

  *John W. Cook*

 *Network Manager*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4, MCVP*

 ** **

 *From:* Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:39 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

 ** **

 Better benefits than where I currently work?

 ** **

 *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:15 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

 ** **

 Do I have to attend Chamber of Commerce functions? :)

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

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 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Date: *Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:59:37 -0500
 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *OT: Position in Pennsylvania

 ** **

 If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin
 with strong emphasis on SCCM.

 Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.


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RE: OT - ugh!

2012-02-08 Thread James Hill

LOL.. 

Are you able to give us some of the stats Jacob?  They'd be very interesting
I'm sure.

James.

-Original Message-
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2012 5:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

1 million views? That is all?

I can offer content that will exploded your views...

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - ugh!

Ok rub in.  I suck.  :-P

That's assume.  :)



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From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - ugh!

What surprised me after I posted my very first article was how fast I was
able to find it via Google.  It was like 15 minutes and Google had it.
Within an hour I had a few hundred hits  Totally blew my mind.  I am
fast approaching 1 million views for my blog.  The view counts for some of
my articles just blows me away.  I have always updated my blog stats on the
1st day of the month.  I have been so busy with work, I forgot to do this on
Feb. 1st so I don't have current counts.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com
http://www.carlwebster.com/






On 2/8/12 7:39 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

Out of curiosity, do you guys worry about SEO and your blog?  Or do you 
just put it up there and let wordpress or whatever do its thing?

Bill



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 Amen.

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 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com mailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 I get that a lot. J

  

 And I also use my blog as an immense resource for myself. If I
 know I wrote an article, the easiest way to find it  search on my
 blog.

  

 Regards,

  

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

  

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:32 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT - ugh!

  

 I'm just converting all the documents I wrote into posts. It's
 actually kind of handy to have them all stored online rather than
 drag them everywhere with me. I've already had a guy from AppSense
 on to me correcting me on some of the product features (they must
 be watching for keywords in Google), so it appears that I am
 already making some more contacts, which is cool.

 Cheers,



 JR

 On 7 February 2012 19:25, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
 mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Someone is having just WAY too much fun in their new blog!

  

 Keep it up.

  

  

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

  

 *From: *James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Date: *Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:39:29 +


 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: OT - ugh!

  

 Well, I decided to start blogging up a bit of AppSense stuff, and
 I seem to be enjoying it! Good call.

 Mr Webster, I offer no apologies for stealing your bigot moniker
 for the title for my blog.

 Anyone else who may use this software can read my ramblings at
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

 Cheers,




 JR

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 PLEASE DO.  I paid my own money to take the course (using a fellow
 CTPs partner status to get it dirt cheap) but that is a set of
 software with a LOT of options.

 



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RE: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Maglinger, Paul

Just keep stirrin’ the pot, why don’t cha?

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@eckelberry.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

If you want a response to this post, simply add that you're paying $12-$25 per 
hour and require the creation of sales and marketing materials as well as sales 
of maintenance agreements (in addition to representation at Chamber of Commerce 
meetings)

The last post was fun to watch.


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(c) 727 – 644 – 8830

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On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Christopher Bodnar 
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If anyone is looking, we have an open position for a Windows Sys Admin with 
strong emphasis on SCCM.

Position would be located in Bethlehem, PA.


If anyone is interested contact me offline for more info.

Thanks,
Christopher Bodnar
Technical Support III, Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
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RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

I'm shocked that your end-users get to decide what shares they want.

How do they justify them?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the server guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys?

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can't do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.
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Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

2012-02-08 Thread Don Kuhlman

We had a standard server build that included specific shares with group 
permissions mapped to them.  Those who were granted rights to the shares via 
groups could create folders under them, but not set up their own shares.  The 
folders provided shared access to data for the users.

 From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

I’m shocked that your end-users get to decide what shares they want.

How do they justify them?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From:David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the “server” guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys? 

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can’t do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.
David Lum
Systems Engineer //NWEATM
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Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

2012-02-08 Thread Rankin, James R

Server teams should create shares but under appropriate change control. 
Sometimes you can over-use shares and create a bit of confusion as to actual 
file locations.

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

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From: David Lum david@nwea.org
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:45:44 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Who in your org creates server 
shares?

Do you guys have the server guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys?

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can't do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

I could improve your work flow and get that down to 3 weeks using PowerShell 
and Windows Workflow Foundation.

That being said - the process is truly even more complex than that in some 
environments.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

We submit a Change Request Form that goes to a sub committee to study the 
ramifications of the change.  THe sub committee breaks into study groups to 
come up with the proper implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once 
all four sub committees have had their finding published in a peer reviewed 
internal Sharepoint site, then the committee meets.  During the meeting all 
sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision is reached.  
If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is submitted to the 
IT Managers committee for review.

The IT managers committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Management Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Managers committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the IT Directors committee for review.

The IT Directors committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Directors Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Directors committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the CIO for approval.

If the CIO approves, the share is created.  If the CIO disapproves, go back to 
the beginning or find a better place to work.

Time to get the share approved and created is 9 months.


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:45:44 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the server guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys?

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can't do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.


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Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

2012-02-08 Thread Don Kuhlman

I think I know that place and that process ;)

 From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

We submit a Change Request Form that goes to a sub committee to study the 
ramifications of the change.  THe sub committee breaks into study groups to 
come up with the proper implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once 
all four sub committees have had their finding published in a peer reviewed 
internal Sharepoint site, then the committee meets.  During the meeting all 
sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision is reached.  
If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is submitted to the 
IT Managers committee for review.  

The IT managers committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Management Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Managers committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the IT Directors committee for review.

The IT Directors committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Directors Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Directors committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the CIO for approval.

If the CIO approves, the share is created.  If the CIO disapproves, go back to 
the beginning or find a better place to work.

Time to get the share approved and created is 9 months.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com
From: David Lum david@nwea.org
Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:45:44 +
To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the “server” guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys? 

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can’t do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.

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RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

That sounds much better.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

A 'Group' can get a share.  An individual cannot.  In general, a 'project' also 
cannot get a share.  Group shares have a form (ticket) and justification and 
two owners and are tied to an AD group membership for permission access 
(read_only, create) and a quota.

A project is welcome to a SharePoint site.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
I'm shocked that your end-users get to decide what shares they want.

How do they justify them?

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the server guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys?

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can't do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 
503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764


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Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

I am truly sorry but neither PowerShell or Windows Workflow Foundation have 
completed Change Review processes yet.  Something about the CIO learning batch 
file techniques from http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/ and since nothing on that 
site has been upgraded to either PS or WWF, then they must not be worth using. 
:)



Carl Webster

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http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Michael Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:19:20 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

I could improve your work flow and get that down to 3 weeks using PowerShell 
and Windows Workflow Foundation.

That being said – the process is truly even more complex than that in some 
environments.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

We submit a Change Request Form that goes to a sub committee to study the 
ramifications of the change.  THe sub committee breaks into study groups to 
come up with the proper implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once 
all four sub committees have had their finding published in a peer reviewed 
internal Sharepoint site, then the committee meets.  During the meeting all 
sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision is reached.  
If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is submitted to the 
IT Managers committee for review.

The IT managers committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Management Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Managers committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the IT Directors committee for review.

The IT Directors committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Directors Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Directors committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the CIO for approval.

If the CIO approves, the share is created.  If the CIO disapproves, go back to 
the beginning or find a better place to work.

Time to get the share approved and created is 9 months.


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:45:44 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the “server” guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys?

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can’t do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.


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RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Thanks for sharing.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

I am truly sorry but neither PowerShell or Windows Workflow Foundation have 
completed Change Review processes yet.  Something about the CIO learning batch 
file techniques from http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/ and since nothing on that 
site has been upgraded to either PS or WWF, then they must not be worth using. 
:)



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Michael Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:19:20 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

I could improve your work flow and get that down to 3 weeks using PowerShell 
and Windows Workflow Foundation.

That being said - the process is truly even more complex than that in some 
environments.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

We submit a Change Request Form that goes to a sub committee to study the 
ramifications of the change.  THe sub committee breaks into study groups to 
come up with the proper implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once 
all four sub committees have had their finding published in a peer reviewed 
internal Sharepoint site, then the committee meets.  During the meeting all 
sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision is reached.  
If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is submitted to the 
IT Managers committee for review.

The IT managers committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Management Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Managers committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the IT Directors committee for review.

The IT Directors committee breaks into sub committees to review the 
implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub committees 
have had their finding published in a Directors Level peer reviewed internal 
Sharepoint site, then the IT Directors committee meets again.  During the 
meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down decision 
is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request Form is 
submitted to the CIO for approval.

If the CIO approves, the share is created.  If the CIO disapproves, go back to 
the beginning or find a better place to work.

Time to get the share approved and created is 9 months.


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:45:44 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Who in your org creates server shares?

Do you guys have the server guys create the actual shares, or is it the 
desktop support guys?

I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are 
moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but certainly 
not complex enough that they can't do it. Just wondered how you guys handle it.


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Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 Do you guys have the “server” guys create the actual
 shares, or is it the desktop support guys?

  Our server guys are also our desktop support guys (there are 3, now,
including me), so... yes.  :)  ~130 person company.

  We don't create a lot of shares.  For the most part, we create
folders under a single share.  IT generally controls down one or two
folder levels (to keep it from turning into a free-for-all); after
that, the assigned users can do what they want.

  Users don't even know what a share is.  Most of the time, I get
asked, Can you create another network drive?, and I end up
explaining how folders work.  :)

-- Ben

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Re: Volume Shadow Copy

2012-02-08 Thread Dean Cunningham

what does vssadmin list writers and vssadmin list providers show?

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Nigel Parker
nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.ukwrote:

 Hi
 The backup will run if I start it manually
 I will STOp/Start the Vss service in the batch file see how that works
 out

 Thanks


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cloning XP protected mode VMs

2012-02-08 Thread Dean Cunningham

My google fu is off this afternoon, I want to setup a dozen machines
running XP protected mode with a copy of the same image.
Anyone got a link on how to do this? Im a VMWare guy and not a Virtaul PC
guy...

cheers

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Re: OT: Position in Pennsylvania

2012-02-08 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr

:-D

--
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Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

2012-02-08 Thread Don Ely

LOL!  Poor ASB, little Webster is picking on him...

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

   I am truly sorry but neither PowerShell or Windows Workflow Foundation
 have completed Change Review processes yet.  Something about the CIO
 learning batch file techniques from http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/ and
 since nothing on that site has been upgraded to either PS or WWF, then they
 must not be worth using. :)


Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

   From: Michael Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:19:20 +
 To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: Who in your org creates server shares?

   I could improve your work flow and get that down to 3 weeks using
 PowerShell and Windows Workflow Foundation.

 ** **

 That being said – the process is truly even more complex than that in some
 environments.

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 ** **

 *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com webs...@carlwebster.com]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:07 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Who in your org creates server shares?

  ** **

 We submit a Change Request Form that goes to a sub committee to study the
 ramifications of the change.  THe sub committee breaks into study groups to
 come up with the proper implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.
  Once all four sub committees have had their finding published in a peer
 reviewed internal Sharepoint site, then the committee meets.  During the
 meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or thumbs-down
 decision is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the Change Request
 Form is submitted to the IT Managers committee for review.  

 ** **

 The IT managers committee breaks into sub committees to review the
 implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub
 committees have had their finding published in a Management Level peer
 reviewed internal Sharepoint site, then the IT Managers committee meets
 again.  During the meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or
 thumbs-down decision is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the
 Change Request Form is submitted to the IT Directors committee for review.
 

 ** **

 The IT Directors committee breaks into sub committees to review the
 implementation, DR, rollback and backup plans.  Once all four sub
 committees have had their finding published in a Directors Level peer
 reviewed internal Sharepoint site, then the IT Directors committee meets
 again.  During the meeting all sides present their views and a thumbs-up or
 thumbs-down decision is reached.  If the decision is thumbs-up, then the
 Change Request Form is submitted to the CIO for approval.

 ** **

 If the CIO approves, the share is created.  If the CIO disapproves, go
 back to the beginning or find a better place to work.

 ** **

 Time to get the share approved and created is 9 months.

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From: *David Lum david@nwea.org

 *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Date: *Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:45:44 +
 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Who in your org creates server shares?

  ** **

 Do you guys have the “server” guys create the actual shares, or is it the
 desktop support guys? 

  

 I ask because for end users our desktop currently folks do it, but we are
 moving to Win2K8 R2 DFS so share creation is a little different but
 certainly not complex enough that they can’t do it. Just wondered how you
 guys handle it.


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RE: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Phil Brutsche

I've not had a chance to use any of the SAS expansion trays.

Based on my conversations with EMC engineers, the RAID limitations apply 
regardless of whether the drives are in the main chassis or in an external 
enclosure.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EMC limitations?

Thanks for the further data.

I'm going to agitate that we don't do much in the way of upgrading this unit, 
and let it run its course as it is - maybe give it to the engineers for their 
lab.

I didn't want to bring up the RAID6-only madness with their large SAS (what 
they call Near-line SAS) drives - that's a whole other level of stupid.

I didn't know about RAID5 madness.

Have you extended the unit with more trays? if so, do the same kinds of 
limitations on on RAID apply?

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:02, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
 I've worked with the EMC VNXe. The good parts:
  * They're fast
  * They're multiprotocol: They do iSCSI, NFS and CIFS/SMB. Theoretically, you 
 could use one to replace a Windows or *NIX+Samba file server.
  * They integrate with enterprise backup solutions, so that your 
 backup solution uses the integrated snapshot facility to read your 
 data directly from the storage appliance

 I've not used the CIFS feature, as I've only ever used them in conjunction 
 with VMware vSphere aka ESXi, both as an iSCSI target and as an NFS server.

 The limitation you mention is not the only one. I've not run into it, but 
 it's one I'll keep a look out for. I speak from experience that the 1.99TB 
 limitation is due to their iSCSI target. I've created 4TB NFS exports on one, 
 using NL-SAS drives, for use with VMware.

 Other stupid limitations:
  * They are VERY VERY STRICT about your allowable RAID configurations. For 
 example, if you put 12x 1TB SAS drives in it, you have 2x 6 drive RAID6 
 arrays at roughly 4TB each. If you put 12x 15k SAS drives in it, you have 2x 
 5 drive RAID 5 arrays and 2 hot spares. Period. You have no other RAID set 
 options.
  * As an iSCSI target, they don't multipath. Period. Redundancy is handled by 
 migrating the iSCSI service (or NFS service, or CIFS service) between the 
 controller cards.

 Truly and honesty, if you want an entry-level iSCSI storage box your best bet 
 is one of these devices:
  * Dell MD3200i
  * IBM DS3512
  * HP P2000 G3

 All three of those boxes are the *exact same device*; the OEM is LSI. They 
 are all just as fast as the EMC - faster even, since they support multipath! 
 - and do not suffer from the arbitrary storage limitations of the EMC. The 
 downside is they only support iSCSI (or SAS)... but you can also say they do 
 one thing and do that one thing VERY well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: EMC limitations?

 I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a troubling 
 limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs larger than 
 1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum, it's doe 
 to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol.

 I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but that's 
 disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem.
 And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all.

 Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this limitation?

 Kurt

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Re: EMC limitations?

2012-02-08 Thread Don Ely

I'd like a copy too please...  Thanks Sean!

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:

 I forwarded the template as requested. I should add that the template
 provided was what we used to capture all responses. We didn't share the
 responses between vendors.

 - Sean

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote:

 I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being
 frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of
 functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily
 an issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a
 better job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to
 pitch a higher-end solution (if justified).

 I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template
 to those that expressed interest individually.

 - Sean
 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs
  to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of
 technical
  requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you
 put
  on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor
 a
  uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of
 their
  platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that
 allows us to
  weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement
 might be
  that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3
 requirement
  might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger
 cache.

 This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field,
 and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser
 hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given
 to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have
 the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this
 limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between
 EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used
 them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep
 he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the
 matter - I suggested another LH unit.

  It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template
 we used for our last storage purchase.

 That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow
 the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us
 doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other
 that raised my dander.

  - Sean
 
  On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before
  purchase, methinks...
 
  Kurt
 
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3
  protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a
  limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is
  marketing it as an entry level all-in-one storage solution. They
  need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expensive
  platforms. I believe even the older CX, CX3 and CX4 models supported
  SCSI 3.
 
  - Sean
 
  On 2/7/12, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote:
  I have not used an  EMC in a while but that does sound familiar.
 
  I did find one of their sheets that does say the size is limited to
 that.
 
 
 http://www.emc.com/collateral/hardware/specification-sheet/h8515-vnxe-ss.pdf
 
  Thanks,
  Mathew
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: EMC limitations?
 
  I've got a new-ish (January) EMC VNXe 3100, and have run into a
 troubling
  limitation - in use as an iSCSI device, it doesn't support LUNs
 larger than
  1.99tb. According to a post by EMC staff on their community forum,
 it's doe
  to the implementation of the SCSI II protocol.
 
  I don't know if this limitations affects its use as a NAS, but
 that's
  disturbing. My Lefthand units support larger LUNs with no problem.
  And, otherwise, it's performed just fine - no problems at all.
 
  Does anyone out there now if other EMC products have this
 limitation?
 
  Kurt
 
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