RE: This is what I get....
None of my users run with local admin rights. Not even my boss. Not even HER boss--the superintendent of schools, at the top of our org chart. The volume of information available to show why this is a best practice is overwhelming. But then, I suspect you already know this. It does help that top management in our organization supports this. All we had to do was to explain to our superintendent the risks associated with granting users local admin rights, and he was on board. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: This is what I get Here's how much fight I get when I even SUGGEST we should be removing admin right from our users. Worthy to note I am not a local admin on my own NWEA machine, and none of my %sidejob% clients are local admins on theirs. This guy knows this, but still fights me every time. This reply incensed me enough to start again working on the management buy-in, as it's a lot harder to stop a top down order. Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:35 AM To: David Lum Subject: RE: IE 0-day, MS releases bulletin We have this very rare instance of a Zero Day attack in IE for a few sites and you think that is a reason to create the complete nightmare of taking away Admin rights to a local machine. Clearly you don't know how often our users are using their admin rights on their machines. The SD got a call once a week from the ONE person who had that setup when she was moved to Windows 7. If we spent some time building the infrastructure that makes such a situation workable (like I did at the school district I worked at), then we could live with our 500 users not being admins. David Grand From: David Lum Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: IE 0-day, MS releases bulletin Please read this article and weigh in on the suggested workarounds. Microsoft has released a bulletin on this, and has suggested workarounds. Most can be achieved via GPO: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2757760 Note 1: An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could gain the same user rights as the current user. Users whose accounts are configured to have fewer user rights on the system could be less impacted than users who operate with administrative user rights. SD - this exact scenario is the benefit of users not being local administrators. Note 2: Some of this is already done via the Trusted Site GPO. Their additional recommendations recommend disabling ActiveX for Internet and Local Intranet. The latter would disable some Commons functionality, but we can disable it on the Internet site zone temporarily. Even this will generate Service Desk calls but I feel this is worth mitigating the risk. Dave From: David Lum Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Just so you know that I know.. 0-day of the week: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231367/Hackers_exploit_new_IE_zero_day_vulnerability?source=rss_latest_contentutm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2Fnews%2Ffeed+%28Latest+from+Computerworld%29 Dave ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS k.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS l.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS m.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS a.root-servers.net. ;; Received 449 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 15 ms com.172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. ;; Received 509 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwcrpinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. ;; Received 147 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(g.gtld-servers.net) in 93 ms www.studyisland.com.0 IN CNAME vip1.studyisland.com. vip1.studyisland.com. 28800 IN A 72.249.13.58 ;; Received 72 bytes from 207.210.237.70#53(aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearning.c om) in 46 ms === Now, I'm not a DNS expert. But to me, this looks right because I know that www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com = vip1.studyisland.com = 72.249.13.58. But when I use nslookup against that same DNS server, my queries still fail. I enabled debugging in nslookup and got this: === set db2 www.studyisland.com. Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Addresses: 10.11.7.19 10.11.7.13 Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 8, rcode = SERVFAIL header flags: response, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 0, authority records = 0, additional = 1 QUESTIONS: www.studyisland.com, type = A, class = IN ADDITIONAL RECORDS: - (root) ??? unknown type 41 ??? ttl = 0 (0 secs) DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. timeout (2 secs) *** aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us can't find www.studyisland.com.: Server failed === Found someone reporting a similar issue (but no real solution) here: http://forums.msexchange.org/m_1800553796/printable.htm Also, when I run nslookup I *can* resolve studyisland.com-just not www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Still researching... From: John Hornbuckle Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues (ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com) Subject: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Okay, DNS wizards... I need some input. One of my DNS servers (Server 2008) is failing to resolve www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com like so: C:\nslookup Default Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Address: 10.11.7.13 www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Address: 10.11.7.13 DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. *** Request to aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us timed-out But I can point nslookup at one of my other servers (also Server 2008), and it resolves fine. Which kind of sounds like a server problem--but this server has resolved every other name I've thrown at it, though. Only this one is failing. I can point nslookup at the Norton DNS server that my failing server uses as a forwarding server (198.153.192.1), and it resolves fine. All of my other servers use that same forwarding address, too. I'm kind of going crazy here... My users desperately
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
Oh, and to add... Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS k.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS l.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS m.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS a.root-servers.net. ;; Received 449 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 15 ms com.172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. ;; Received 509 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwcrpinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. ;; Received 147 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(g.gtld-servers.net) in 93 ms www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com.0 IN CNAME vip1.studyisland.com. vip1.studyisland.com. 28800 IN A 72.249.13.58 ;; Received 72 bytes from 207.210.237.70#53(aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearning.c om) in 46 ms === Now, I'm not a DNS expert. But to me, this looks right because I know that www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com = vip1.studyisland.com = 72.249.13.58. But when I use nslookup against that same DNS server, my queries still fail. I enabled debugging in nslookup and got this: === set db2 www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Addresses: 10.11.7.19 10.11.7.13 Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 8, rcode = SERVFAIL header flags: response, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 0, authority records = 0, additional = 1 QUESTIONS: www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com, type = A, class = IN ADDITIONAL RECORDS: - (root) ??? unknown type 41 ??? ttl = 0 (0 secs) DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. timeout (2 secs) *** aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us can't find www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com.: Server failed === Found someone reporting a similar issue (but no real solution) here: http://forums.msexchange.org/m_1800553796/printable.htm Also, when I run nslookup I *can* resolve studyisland.com-just not www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Still researching... From: John Hornbuckle Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues (ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com) Subject: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Okay, DNS wizards... I need some input. One of my DNS servers (Server 2008) is failing to resolve www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com like so: C:\nslookup Default Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Address: 10.11.7.13 www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Address: 10.11.7.13 DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we assigned the old server's address to the new one as a second address. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Your DC has multiple IP addresses? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Oh, and to add... Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS k.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS l.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS m.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS a.root-servers.net. ;; Received 449 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 15 ms com.172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. ;; Received 509 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwcrpinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. ;; Received 147 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(g.gtld-servers.net) in 93 ms www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com.0 IN CNAME vip1.studyisland.com. vip1.studyisland.com. 28800 IN A 72.249.13.58 ;; Received 72 bytes from 207.210.237.70#53(aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearning.c om) in 46 ms === Now, I'm not a DNS expert. But to me, this looks right because I know that www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com = vip1.studyisland.com = 72.249.13.58. But when I use nslookup against that same DNS server, my queries still fail. I enabled debugging in nslookup and got this: === set db2 www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Server: aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us Addresses: 10.11.7.19 10.11.7.13 Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 8, rcode = SERVFAIL header flags: response, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 0, authority records = 0, additional = 1 QUESTIONS: www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com, type = A, class = IN ADDITIONAL RECORDS: - (root) ??? unknown type 41 ??? ttl = 0 (0 secs) DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. timeout (2 secs) *** aoc-pet300.taylor.k12.fl.us can't find www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com.: Server failed === Found someone reporting a similar issue (but no real solution) here: http://forums.msexchange.org/m_1800553796/printable.htm Also, when I run nslookup I *can* resolve studyisland.com-just
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
And I did consider that. :) However, (A.) this server's configuration hasn't changed in the years since it was deployed, (B.) we've done the same thing at our other sites that aren't having problems, and (C.) DNS is working 100% correctly at the site in question except for the failure of lookups against this one single domain name. So while I'm open to all possibilities (honestly-I'm getting desperate), my gut instinct is that this isn't the cause of the problem. John From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address I have a theory. Often when Mr. Smith asks a question he isn't looking for an answer to that question, he is pointing you towards the answer for your problem. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we assigned the old server's address to the new one as a second address. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Your DC has multiple IP addresses? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Oh, and to add... Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS k.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS l.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS m.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS a.root-servers.net. ;; Received 449 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 15 ms com.172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. ;; Received 509 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. studyisland.com.172800 IN NS aldfwcrpinf001.archipelagolearni ng.com. ;; Received 147 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(g.gtld-servers.net) in 93 ms www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com.0 IN CNAME vip1.studyisland.com. vip1.studyisland.com. 28800 IN A 72.249.13.58 ;; Received 72 bytes from 207.210.237.70#53(aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearning.c om) in 46 ms === Now, I'm not a DNS expert. But to me, this looks right because I know that www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com = vip1.studyisland.com = 72.249.13.58. But when I use nslookup against that same DNS server, my queries still fail. I enabled
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
I did disable DNS on one of the two addresses and restarted the service. No difference. I haven't tried removing the whole address from the TCP/IP settings. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Well, since you are desperate. :) Remove one of the addresses, bounce the DC and retest. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address And I did consider that. :) However, (A.) this server's configuration hasn't changed in the years since it was deployed, (B.) we've done the same thing at our other sites that aren't having problems, and (C.) DNS is working 100% correctly at the site in question except for the failure of lookups against this one single domain name. So while I'm open to all possibilities (honestly-I'm getting desperate), my gut instinct is that this isn't the cause of the problem. John From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address I have a theory. Often when Mr. Smith asks a question he isn't looking for an answer to that question, he is pointing you towards the answer for your problem. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we assigned the old server's address to the new one as a second address. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Your DC has multiple IP addresses? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Oh, and to add... Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS k.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS l.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS m.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS a.root-servers.net. ;; Received 449 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 15 ms com.172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. com.172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. ;; Received 509 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
Alas, network traces are outside of my skillset. I may have to bring in outside help for that. I'm a technology generalist-lots of breadth, less depth. If I wanted to host the domain locally... I would just go to Forward Lookup Zones, right-click, select New Zone, and go from there? With us being AD-integrated, this won't screw anything up? I'll read the link you sent, too. Thanks for that. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address While officially supported, having multiple IP addresses on a single DC is not recommended and has caused problems all the way back to NT 3.5. If you just want to make this work - host the domain locally. Create it in your DNS servers. Probably the quickest way to fix the problem. Meinolf Weber wrote a very lengthy response to someone's question, a few years ago, about what can go wrong on a DC with multiple IP addresses. Took me a few minutes to find it, link below. Much of it doesn't apply in your case, of course, but still a worthwhile read. http://www.winvistatips.com/domain-controller-multiple-nic-dns-problem-t705909.html I can surmise that what is happening here is that you are having to talk to a server that doesn't like asynchronous routing of DNS replies and requests. That's becoming more and more common as DNS spoofing becomes more and more common. Couldn't verify that without a network trace (wireshark / netmon). I probably would've done that by now and if you really want to track the issue down, that's the next best step IMO. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address And I did consider that. :) However, (A.) this server's configuration hasn't changed in the years since it was deployed, (B.) we've done the same thing at our other sites that aren't having problems, and (C.) DNS is working 100% correctly at the site in question except for the failure of lookups against this one single domain name. So while I'm open to all possibilities (honestly-I'm getting desperate), my gut instinct is that this isn't the cause of the problem. John From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address I have a theory. Often when Mr. Smith asks a question he isn't looking for an answer to that question, he is pointing you towards the answer for your problem. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we assigned the old server's address to the new one as a second address. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Your DC has multiple IP addresses? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Oh, and to add... Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
And we have a winner!!! So, I was totally unfamiliar with conditional forwarding. I just tried what you suggested, and voila-it works. I realize this is a workaround, and I still want to tackle the root of the problem. But this at least buys me some time. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Another option is to set up conditional forwarding on the 'bad' dns server to one of your 'good' dns servers for just studyisland.com That way you will be out of the business of manually working on that zone as studyisland moves or changes things. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address While officially supported, having multiple IP addresses on a single DC is not recommended and has caused problems all the way back to NT 3.5. If you just want to make this work - host the domain locally. Create it in your DNS servers. Probably the quickest way to fix the problem. Meinolf Weber wrote a very lengthy response to someone's question, a few years ago, about what can go wrong on a DC with multiple IP addresses. Took me a few minutes to find it, link below. Much of it doesn't apply in your case, of course, but still a worthwhile read. http://www.winvistatips.com/domain-controller-multiple-nic-dns-problem-t705909.html I can surmise that what is happening here is that you are having to talk to a server that doesn't like asynchronous routing of DNS replies and requests. That's becoming more and more common as DNS spoofing becomes more and more common. Couldn't verify that without a network trace (wireshark / netmon). I probably would've done that by now and if you really want to track the issue down, that's the next best step IMO. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address And I did consider that. :) However, (A.) this server's configuration hasn't changed in the years since it was deployed, (B.) we've done the same thing at our other sites that aren't having problems, and (C.) DNS is working 100% correctly at the site in question except for the failure of lookups against this one single domain name. So while I'm open to all possibilities (honestly-I'm getting desperate), my gut instinct is that this isn't the cause of the problem. John From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address I have a theory. Often when Mr. Smith asks a question he isn't looking for an answer to that question, he is pointing you towards the answer for your problem. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we assigned the old server's address to the new one as a second address. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Your DC has multiple IP addresses? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Oh, and to add... Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and ran dig +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com. Results are: === ; DiG 9.3.2 +trace www.studyisland.comhttp://www.studyisland.com ;; global options: printcmd . 19740 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS d.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 19740 IN NS f.root
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
I'm going to remove the older address after hours--maybe this weekend--and see what happens. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address If you don't have any old equipment with static listings of the older IP address of the DC, remove the older IP address. If you do have older equipment with static listings, but don't have any newer equipment with static listings, and want to preserve the old address, then during off-hours remove the newer address and reboot. If you have different sets of equipment that points to both addresses, you'll need to fix one or the other set of equipment. Kurt On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:14 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: And we have a winner!!! So, I was totally unfamiliar with conditional forwarding. I just tried what you suggested, and voila—it works. I realize this is a workaround, and I still want to tackle the root of the problem. But this at least buys me some time. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Another option is to set up conditional forwarding on the ‘bad’ dns server to one of your ‘good’ dns servers for just studyisland.com That way you will be out of the business of manually working on that zone as studyisland moves or changes things. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address While officially supported, having multiple IP addresses on a single DC is not recommended and has caused problems all the way back to NT 3.5. If you just want to make this work – host the domain locally. Create it in your DNS servers. Probably the quickest way to fix the problem. Meinolf Weber wrote a very lengthy response to someone’s question, a few years ago, about what can go wrong on a DC with multiple IP addresses. Took me a few minutes to find it, link below. Much of it doesn’t apply in your case, of course, but still a worthwhile read. http://www.winvistatips.com/domain-controller-multiple-nic-dns-problem -t705909.html I can surmise that what is happening here is that you are having to talk to a server that doesn’t like asynchronous routing of DNS replies and requests. That’s becoming more and more common as DNS spoofing becomes more and more common. Couldn’t verify that without a network trace (wireshark / netmon). I probably would’ve done that by now and if you really want to track the issue down, that’s the next best step IMO. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address And I did consider that. :) However, (A.) this server’s configuration hasn’t changed in the years since it was deployed, (B.) we’ve done the same thing at our other sites that aren’t having problems, and (C.) DNS is working 100% correctly at the site in question except for the failure of lookups against this one single domain name. So while I’m open to all possibilities (honestly—I’m getting desperate), my gut instinct is that this isn’t the cause of the problem. John From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address I have a theory. Often when Mr. Smith asks a question he isn’t looking for an answer to that question, he is pointing you towards the answer for your problem. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we assigned the old server’s address to the new one as a second address. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Your DC has multiple IP addresses? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address Oh, and to add… Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same firewall. Curiouser and curiouser. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM
RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address
Clearing the cache didn't help. I'll grab DIG now... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:42 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: One of my DNS servers (Server 2008) is failing to resolve www.studyisland.com like so: There is some bug in MS-DNS in Windows 2008 R2 that causes it to randomly get a brain crap on individual domains. I don't know the details, but it's bit a few people on this list. Symptoms seem to match yours. Try the command dnscmd /clearcache on the server. If that clears the trouble, you need the hotfix. I *think* this is it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2508835 but I might have it confused with some other bug in MS-DNS. C:\nslookup NSLOOKUP is brain damaged. (The biggest problem is that it can give ambiguous error messages.) Get DIG from the ISC BIND suite and get in the habit of using it for DNS diagnostics. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dave Aitel on end user security training
I'm not prepared to throw IT security awareness training out the window, but I agree with Aitel's position that enterprises should approach security with the assumption that some users will ignore what they were taught. He writes that a user has no responsibility over the network, but that may not be realistic in this era. All of my users have a certain responsibility when it comes to protecting the network, just as we all have responsibility for our physical environment. If I'm the last person to leave the office but I don't lock the door, I'm neglecting my responsibilities. I can argue that I'm not the person in charge of facilities, but that doesn't fly. If I'm using an asset--regardless of what that asset is--I have a role in protecting it to the degree that I can. He also says that users don't have the ability to recognize or protect against modern information security threats any more than a teller can protect a bank. Bad analogy. Bank tellers certainly DO have a role in protecting the bank's assets, such as requiring that customers provide proper ID before handing out cash. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dave Aitel on end user security training I must say, I have to agree, for most business cases http://www.csoonline.com/article/711412/why-you-shouldn-t-train-employees-for-security-awareness OTOH, I don't think you have much alternative when dealing with family and friends - training is pretty much all there is. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 for Business
At this point in the game, I wouldn't expect much change in the core of Win8. It seems to be a bit late to be changing features; I'm thinking mostly we'll just see cosmetic changes between now and RTM. But you never know. By the way... I'm having a tough time with Win8 correctly mapping network drives on logon. I've traditionally used a logon script, which didn't work with Win8. I migrated to using Group Policy instead, but that doesn't work, either. There have been lengthy threads about this on Microsoft's support forums. No resolution so far. The problem existed in the Consumer Preview, and is still present in the Release Preview. Anyone else seen this? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 for Business Who wants to start a pool on what features will be cut before RTM? From: James Hill [falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 8 for Business There seems to be a lot of negativity towards Windows 8 (99% of which is directed at Metro). But there are many new features that will make it worthwhile for business. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=28970 After reading through that document I'm looking forward to Windows 8 and Server 2012 even more now. There are some very cool features and improvements on the way. Some of the standouts for me:- * Built-in print driver * Bitlocker o Only encrypting used space - that will greatly speed up enabling bitlocker. o New Hard drives shipped already encrypted * Branch Office Direct Printing * Client Hyper-V * USMT now support migrating from XP. James. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: What is your take on this (built-in admin password and account lockout)
Hm... Interesting. I wonder if anything has changed in the logic since that was written in 2005? I do get what he's saying. If the built-in admin account has no password, then it can't be used across the network (at least not by default). But if you've followed their advice and disabled that account completely, then that's not really a concern. I also understand his point about account lockouts. Our students here intentionally lock out accounts in order to disable them, which is just the sort of attack he's warning about. And if a password is strong, it would take so long to crack-even with advanced computing power-that locking out the account wouldn't serve much purpose. But computing power has increased since 2005, so I wonder if that still holds true. And regardless, the state IT auditors expect us to have lockouts enabled because they consider it a best practice. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What is your take on this (built-in admin password and account lockout) One of our VP's just ran across this article and is asking for my input: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512606.aspx Which seems to be recommending two things: Leave the built-in administrator password blank There is no need for account lockout to be enabled I disagree with both assumptions. I also find it odd that this is a MS recommendation. I'd like to hear others thoughts on these comments. Thanks, Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CD4A11.3CD872D0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC
I don't really care who makes the batteries; APC's name is on them, and APC is who I hold responsible for their performance. For the past couple of years, I haven't been impressed with the life we've been getting from our APC batteries. My reseller indicated that he has heard similar comments from other people, so I don't think I'm alone. The dead/swelling battery wasn't in a unit-it hadn't even been taken out of the box. APC refused to make the situation right, and that was my tipping point. If other UPS manufacturers are willing to warrant their batteries for three years vs. APC's one, I'd be remiss not to at least explore those options. If it turns out that their quality is no better than APC's, then I won't switch. John From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC Well that's kind of like saying you want to look at other makes of cars because your battery died really quickly in your Ford, or you wanted to get away from your Sony laptop because the battery crapped. APC doesn't make batteries, that's outsourced. I've never had an issue with an APC unit itself and if the batteries are replaced on a regularly scheduled basis (read - not when they're dead and swelling up in the unit) you should not see any issues. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC We've been an APC shop here for a long time, but lately I've been thinking of trying something else. I've not been impressed with the battery life of our UPSes, and APC only warrants them for a year. We had a battery that sat in a closet for a while, and when we opened it to use it we found that it had leaked. This was clearly a defective battery, and thankfully it wasn't in a UPS-but APC refused to replace it because it was just over a year old. I should add, it was just over a year since it was *manufactured*. Not that we had had it for that long. But we had no proof of purchase, and APC was unwilling to help. Minuteman advertises three-year warranties on its batteries (at least the ones in the higher-end models, it looks like). Our reseller has also suggested CyberPower. Does anyone have any experience with brands other than APC? I'm looking for warnings or recommendations. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC
Interesting-it looks like APC warranties the battery that comes in a UPS for two years, but the replacement battery for only one. I'll need to check with the other companies to see how they handle that. Warranties don't preclude failures, but one might reasonably assume that the longer a company warranties something, the greater their confidence that the item being covered will last. John From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC Sort of. Warranties do not preclude failures, they only give you (with proper documentation as JH could not provide) recourse for replacement at the manufacturers discretion. That said, here is the official stance from APC http://www.apc.com/support/faq.cfm#9 John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC
Just heard back from Minuteman. They only warranty their replacement batteries for 90 days... From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC Interesting-it looks like APC warranties the battery that comes in a UPS for two years, but the replacement battery for only one. I'll need to check with the other companies to see how they handle that. Warranties don't preclude failures, but one might reasonably assume that the longer a company warranties something, the greater their confidence that the item being covered will last. John From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]mailto:[mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Semi-OT: UPSes Other Than APC Sort of. Warranties do not preclude failures, they only give you (with proper documentation as JH could not provide) recourse for replacement at the manufacturers discretion. That said, here is the official stance from APC http://www.apc.com/support/faq.cfm#9 John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Meraki wireless
Check out Aerohive, too. We've used them for over a year with success. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Meraki wireless Anyone using http://www.meraki.com/ ? Had a demo today quite impressed uses a cloud controller with lots of polices and granular control, quit nice. Pros cons? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: NTsysadmin emails going to Gmail's Spam
Ditto. Postini definitely doesn't seem to be a big fan of this list. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Troy Adkins [mailto:tadk...@house.virginia.gov] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NTsysadmin emails going to Gmail's Spam We use Postini here and it will catch a few list posts as spam Troy Adkins Network Administrator Virginia House of Delegates General Assembly Bldg. Room 815 804.698.1567 (O) 804.771.7917 (F) tadk...@house.virginia.govmailto:tadk...@house.virginia.gov http://legis.virginia.govhttp://legis.virginia.gov/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you choosing VMware over Hyper-V? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us - Original Message - From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:38:47 -0700 Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade. I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the solution: 3 hosts: ($21k each) HP DL380 G7 E5660 Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored 196 G RAM - this was $45k alone Quad port gig adapter 2 Switches: ($1,800 each) HP 2910 1 SAN ($22,700) NetApp 2240 12 x 600GB VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200) 6 Windows licenses ($13,600): Server 2008 Datacenter Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000) $40k services Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008 Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers Total: $185,000 Sound good? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
Is the consensus that VMware is easier to use than Hyper-V? I've only used the latter, so I can't judge. John -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I'd assume ease of use and market leader. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you choosing VMware over Hyper-V? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us - Original Message - From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:38:47 -0700 Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade. I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the solution: 3 hosts: ($21k each) HP DL380 G7 E5660 Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored 196 G RAM - this was $45k alone Quad port gig adapter 2 Switches: ($1,800 each) HP 2910 1 SAN ($22,700) NetApp 2240 12 x 600GB VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200) 6 Windows licenses ($13,600): Server 2008 Datacenter Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000) $40k services Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008 Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers Total: $185,000 Sound good? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: certifications
Sorry-I should've been clearer. Yes, certs on specific product releases should be permanent. I was speaking of more general certs. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: certifications If I'm certified on Exchange 2010 - I should be certified on Exchange 2010. That doesn't mean I'm certified on this version, every previous version, and every future version of Exchange. IMHO. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: certifications Certs shouldn't be permanent. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: certifications MCSE name collision. Certs are no longer permanent. Where are MCM and MCA in those lists? The list goes on... From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: certifications Why, Michael? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Yeah. I've asked for more information. Upon initial reading, it irritates me. A lot. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: certifications Anyone else see this yet? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/2012/04-11CloudCertifications.aspx Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459tel:610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CD197D.FAB450E0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: certifications
Certs shouldn't be permanent. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: certifications MCSE name collision. Certs are no longer permanent. Where are MCM and MCA in those lists? The list goes on... From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: certifications Why, Michael? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Yeah. I've asked for more information. Upon initial reading, it irritates me. A lot. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: certifications Anyone else see this yet? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/2012/04-11CloudCertifications.aspx Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459tel:610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CD17FE.25C45BD0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: OT: Utterly convincing spam
We use Postini, and it regularly quarantines messages from this list. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Utterly convincing spam Gmail has been doing that for some of my messages coming from Sunbelt for a while now. I adjusted the filter to account for it (filters now have an option to never mark something coming from a source as SPAM). On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Amusingly, GMail marked my message as spam. I have unmarked it but wonder if I am now going to get a load of mails from Patsy Mark of HSBC. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Printing Issues with IE 9
We've been replacing our older HP printers with newer ones largely because of this. If you find a fix that works, do share. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issues with IE 9 Good afternoon all, Win 7 pro 64 bit - fully patched Printers - Canon ir3225 (from a W2008r2 print server that tells me the hotfix for it, doesn't apply that that system) Issue - Script error/Internal error when trying to print from a web page I'm seeing issues all over Google about printing issues with IE 9. The hotfix that MS provides to *fix* the issue is already installed on the system and still no joy. Apparently there are compatibility problems with some printer drivers and IE9 (Canon HP mostly it seems). I've tried disabling the script debugging but that didn't help, neither did turning off protected mode. I'm at a bit of a loss here...has anyone figured out a way around this? Suggestions/ LMGTFY welcomed! Thanks as always! Cameron ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
Best phone ever. End of story. www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C6X9vOEkUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C6X9vOEkU John From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? start of rant. I've been thinking about this for a while...and it bugs me. Why do we need to always compare our phones/devices/OSes and defend them so much? Who really cares that you use an iphone and I use a shoe phone? Do we compare and defend our choice of washing machine or lawn mower? Is it that important to me that you think that my choice of bicycle is the best one available?I guess in some way it validates our choices and makes us feel better when someone (anyone) agrees with us. End of rant. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
The reason WP7 doesn't have more marketshare has less to do with its design than with the fact that marketing for it stinks. Nobody has heard of it. I suspect that with some of the new phones coming out (e.g., the Lumia 900), that will change. I'm not saying WP7 is for everyone. But it's absolutely a solid platform, it's easy to use, and it's refreshingly different from iOS and Android. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? I'm still not getting it and I've been playing with it a while. Why take a failed mobile OS and make it a desktop OS? I mean, sure, I see the logic because it *could* help bolster poor mobile device sales, but... The interface reminds me of the Partridge Family bus. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
With tablets and touch devices growing by leaps and bounds, I can't fault Microsoft for tailoring its latest OS to them. I'm really excited about Win8 tablets-can't wait to see them on the market. For traditional PCs, the desktop is still there, and apps can still be scaled so that multiple apps fit on the screen (assuming the app isn't a solely metro app, of course). I suspect that Microsoft has done their research on this, and found that many people don't run multiple apps on the same screen at the same time. I know most of my users don't. But it's still an option with Win8. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? It's a bit of a mess with a keyboard and mouse. Nothing is obvious and the concept of an app taking the full screen is a waste of real estate on large monitors. No Start Menu is a mistake. I think it looks great for tablets and touch devices but it doesn't work for a desktop. It isn't windows anymore. It's WINDOW. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
As an enterprise, I'm very concerned about the learning curve, too. But at some point, you have to finally break away from the past even if it involves a steep learning curve. The jump from DOS to Win3x required quite a bit of retraining, as did the jump from Win3x to Win95. Both of those were fairly radical moves, and things have stayed relatively static since Win95 with the old familiar Start button in the lower-left corner. Maybe it's time for a big shift. John From: Dan Bartley [mailto:bartl...@corp.netcarrier.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? I have to say my initial reaction is good for tabs. Like John, I can't wait to see some of the new tablets. As for Enterprise, I don't see Win8 making its mark if it stays the current course. In fact I have a feeling it will go the way of Vista in the Enterprise. It is too limiting and non-intuitive. It requires a complete retraining for users and very few IT people have the time for that. The CP also lacks some key domain support at the moment, such as in the printer and file sharing areas, so maybe next version I will change my mind. Then again, they really ditched the enterprise in Windows Phone in my opinion, so maybe they won't improve on that. Best Regards, Dan Bartley ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Favorite corporate PCs?
I've been on both sides myself. I used to be the local guy selling computers. I could match the quality (and, generally, the price) of the big guys. However, I couldn't offer the stability that they could. One day my business partner and I decided to close up shop and move to greener pastures-something that's far less likely with a major brand. And for servers and related critical equipment, I couldn't match the likes of Dell's 4-hour warranty. I simply couldn't get the replacement parts that quickly, and as a small business I couldn't guarantee the response time. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't waste my time selling low-margin computers. I'd make all of my money on labor and repairs/upgrades. We use Dell OptiPlex units here. They're not necessarily the cheapest, but they're made for the enterprise. The parts inside stay the same, so the OptiPlex I order six months from now will have the same components inside as the one I ordered six months ago. And of course, Dell has a solid mechanism in place for ordering machines with images preinstalled. That won't be a factor for those who push down their own images, but we don't do that-we get ours pre-imaged. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Favorite corporate PCs? I've been on both sides of this over the past 17 years and have heard all of the question answer sessions before. Go with a local business who has a good reputation and uses either true Intel boards or ASUS boards. Is Dell's tech support/replacement part solution that wonderful that justifies the overpriced computer? Have you *EVER* gotten a replacement part from Dell that wasn't s refurb? I had servers on Gold or Platinum support and when a RAID array drive is sent out for replacement it is a refurb. Does that seem fair to you? On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:59 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Local business go out of business at inopportune times and there is much more to the vendor relationship with Dell than just buying a box. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.commailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 01:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Favorite corporate PCs? Why not support a local business instead of buying overpriced Dell computers? On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: We purchase a number of PCs each month as part of a rotation cycle. I've been a Dell customer for years, but lately don't think Dell has been offering the best price we can get (we are non-profit and state/GSA, although non-profit pricing is usually better). So I'm looking around. For desktops I'm not too picky as long as specs are similar. HP? Lenovo? Big Lots? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.comhttp://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws
RE: OT - ugh!
Sometimes you just have to say that even if the system sucks, it is what it is--you have to play the game. You could say the same for certs (someone without certs could be better at a job than someone with them), experience (someone with five years of experience could be better than someone with 15), or any other criteria. If you're in a position to do it, go for the degree if you feel like it will open doors for you. Many schools offer online programs aimed at people who work. Maybe I'm too much like the scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz, but just having that piece of paper makes me feel good. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 8:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Convince Corporate American HR that's the best way to handle it. Because I have no college degree I can't even get an interview for jobs I'm more than technically qualified to handle. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: South Florida position.
What’s the salary range based on, though? The level of experience the candidate is bringing to the table? If that’s the case, then only highly-experienced / highly-qualified applicants would have a shot at the $25/hour salary. But a highly-experienced / highly-qualified person is likely to find the $25 rate too low, especially in that area of the state. With the economy being what it is, your odds of finding someone increase a bit—but I’m not sure they’re that good. Of course, it doesn’t hurt to try; if the stars align just right, you can luck out. I lucked out myself a few years ago finding a young, extremely bright technician who was willing to work for the laughably low salary the position paid. She worked for peanuts and did an outstanding job for several years until she (unsurprisingly) was offered a job elsewhere making more than 3x the money. When the time came to replace her, I didn’t luck out a second time. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: South Florida position. Um.. anyone notice the $25/hr part? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASUS laptops/notepbooks
I don't have any experience with the current models, but I have an Asus laptop that's several years old and has held up like a champ. I keep it because it has a ginormous screen. So in terms of durability, I have no complaints. I also have a Lenovo netbook that I love. It's small, light, has good battery life, and performs well. Lenovo tends to be pretty innovative, despite having some boring-looking models. So, I wouldn't rule them out without exploring their product line fully. When I travel, I often take both. I leave the Asus in my hotel room, and carry the Lenovo into meetings. This gives me the best of both worlds. But this fall, I hope to finally trade both for a new unit that has a big screen but is also light and has all-day battery life. I'm thinking Ivy Bridge + Windows 8 will make for some great options. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ASUS laptops/notepbooks Anyone using these in the enterprise? We currently use Dell or Lenovo laptops. Some of the ASUS models look very light, which would be good for our nomadic staff. Just wondering on long term durability, ability to image. Comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Infrastructure Specialist defined - was: OT - ugh!
Just caught the word “temporary” in there. That’s certainly a factor in determining a fair rate of pay. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Infrastructure Specialist defined - was: OT - ugh! Long but here's a snip of the description... Job Summary The primary role of the temporary Production Infrastructure Specialist is the support of production infrastructure systems across multiple operating units within the business. This includes client-facing application servers, local fileservers/storage, and management of the local data centers. In addition to daily support of systems this role will undertake two long-term projects: 1. Coordinate migration of production servers from local Active-Directory to company Corporate Active Directory 2. Organize data archives and research/implement a modern, replacement archiving system. Job Responsibilities • Address daily support tickets regarding end-user permissions and file archiving and restores from nearline archive and disaster-recovery backup systems • Re-architect the file archive systems to make them more efficient, functional, easier to manage, and organized, replacing the current system if necessary • Coordinate the migration from a local Active Directory into the company global Active directory for all employee-facing systems • Assist senior Infrastructure Administrator with client facing and production infrastructure systems and services, ensuring both operating at an optimal level, with high availability and recoverability. • Works independently toward goals and objectives seeks additional review on unusual assignments. • Solves complex problems and conducts analysis of the costs and benefits of modifying procedures increase effectiveness of a department. • Develops cross-work group partnerships and initiates new and productive internal and external alliances. • Extensive technical expertise and knowledge of other related business disciplines/processes. Qualifications / Requirements ServerSupport: · Due to extensive use of Red Hat Enterprise Linux on production servers, a strong background in Linux server administration is required. · General Server Support: Level 1 2 Windows, Unix/Linux, Mac OS X Server Support (Rack Servers, IBM, Dell, Apple, Cisco, Configure Shares Security) · Level 1 2 VMWare Support (vSphere 5 Enterprise, vCenter Server 5) experience preferred SAN Support: · Strong familiarity with enterprise data archiving systems and disaster recovery backup systems. uses Flashnet for data archive and Commvault for Disaster Recovery backups · Level 1 2 SAN Storage Support (EMC CX300, EMC AX100, IBM N3400 · Level 1 2 Fibre Channel Switch Support (Cisco MDS 9134, McData ) Directory Service Support: · Level 1 2 Active Directory Support · Create Accounts and Set Permissions Personal Performance Factors · Integrity/Ethics - deals with others in a straightforward and honest manner, is accountable for actions, maintains confidentiality, supports company values, and conveys good news and bad. · Perseverance - targets and achieves results, sets challenging goals, prioritizes tasks, overcomes obstacles, accepts accountability, sets team standards and responsibilities, provides leadership/motivation. · Adaptability/Flexibility - Adapts to change, is open to new ideas, takes on new responsibilities, handles pressure, and adjusts plans to meet changing needs. · Teamwork - Meets all team deadlines and responsibilities, listens to others and values opinions, helps team leader to meet goals, welcomes newcomers and promotes a team atmosphere. · Initiative - Tackles problems and takes independent action, seeks out new responsibilities, acts on opportunities, generates new ideas, practices self-development. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
Well, I’m all confused. I keep hearing that employers are looking for loyalty, and that job-hoppers make hiring managers nervous. Darned if you do, darned if you don’t. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! I do not agree with the mentality, but I have heard the argument: If they were any good, they would be changing jobs every 2-5 years to expand their skills. Depending on the environment, most companies change (refresh technology) every 2-5 years so that would force some expansion of skills. Another scenario is that you started in one role and changed your role, probably more than once in that 15 years. Sorry for the bad news, hopefully you will find something. Robert On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.commailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that we changed our mind... We did not realize you were with the same company for 15 years... WTF? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
A degree is far more likely to broaden your employment opportunities than to narrow them because you're far more likely to come across jobs that require degrees than ones for which the possession of a degree would disqualify you. Although if you have to choose between certs and degrees, the right choice depends on your specific field of practice. Focusing on technical work? Certs may be better. Moving into management? A degree may be better. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Agreed, like certifications. As seen, NOT having them can be an issue, whereas you'll never (I hope!) hear oh, you have a degree? Sorry we can't hire you, although you can get hit with sorry but you're overqualified which is pretty much the same thing I suppose... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Going to college opens doors. And it almost doesn't even matter what the degree is in. I think it's like a secret handshake. It says I can navigate a byzantine bureaucracy and complete a series of tasks without close supervision. I might be wrong, but I think it's always there in the subconscious. I had doors open for me that were previously shut by completing a degree (my degree is not in IT, but in accountancy). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
That assumes that theory has no practical value. And while that’s sometimes the case, it’s not always true. In working on my master’s in management information systems, I learned a lot of theory with practical value. I took courses on things like project management, organizational behavior, operations management, and IT security that all taught theories that can be directly applied to my job. My bachelor’s? Well, that’s another story. I majored in English, and I’ll readily concede that that degree has a bit less practical value unless you go on to teach the subject. :) John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! … The thing about going to college, is, they only teach theory. They don't teach anything worth practical value to an employer. … ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: South Florida position.
All of that for $12 - $25 per hour? In an area of the state with a high cost of living? Let me just rush right out and get my resume polished… John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: South Florida position. Not to mention being a rep to Chamber of Commerce meetings. And they don't reimburse tolls, or parking, or mileage. Daniel Rodriguez drod...@gmail.commailto:drod...@gmail.com On Feb 2, 2012 3:30 PM, Clark, Tommy R tommy.r.cl...@saic.commailto:tommy.r.cl...@saic.com wrote: That a lot to ask. A sales guy who happens to fix computers in his spare time. -Original Message- From: bounce-9482675-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:bounce-9482675-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9482675-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:bounce-9482675-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of gro...@beachcomp.commailto:gro...@beachcomp.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: South Florida position. Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. - Working knowledge of XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 2003, Win 2008 operating systems. - Ability to perform data transfers and setup computers, laptops, printers and other peripherals. - Familiarity with various types of laptops and their peripherals. - Familiarity with networking protocols with troubleshooting skills. - Attention to details and organizational skills. - Ability to communicate verbally and in written form. - Customer service skills are required. - Problem Solving, Electronics / Computer Troubleshooting, Software Testing, Network Hardware
RE: Domain registrars
I've used GoDaddy for years with no problems, but it has been a little while since I last had a project with them. Are you having issues? Someone else I recently talked to said they had been hearing negative buzz about GoDaddy lately. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: WL [mailto:wlefkov...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Domain registrars In switching a customer with 30 domains from godaddy, what similar alternatives remain? Thank you in advance. William ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ?? on jobsites
But I still don't see how I, as an employer, would use that to leverage LinkedIn as a better resource for attracting applicants to a position than, say, Monster or CareerBuilder. I can see where LinkedIn would be great for looking at people I know, or who know people I know, and seeing if they appear to be a good initial fit for a job. But if my goal is to cast a really wide net, LinkedIn doesn't seem best. But I'm open to the possibility that I don't fully understand how to best use LinkedIn to find a candidate for a position. John From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites Which is why they have that listed. I'm mostly happy where I am, but if the right offer came along, then heck ya, I'd jump. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:51 AM To: Joseph Heaton; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites So how does that work from the hiring side? You see someone with a profile that looks interesting, and make a pitch to them? One thing I've noticed is that 99% of the people on LinkedIn have career opportunities listed as something to contact them for-including people who I know are very happy with their jobs and aren't really looking elsewhere. I suspect that a lot of people who have that aren't, in fact, looking for new career opportunities. Although I'm sure that if the offer were good enough, they might be persuaded. :) John From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites It's not just postings but making sure your profile there is discoverable in the right way. I haven't posted any req's on LinkedIn personally, but, I've found resources through it simply through keyword searching. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites I keep an eye on the job listings on LinkedIn, and for my region it has very few compared to the likes of Dice, Monster, and CareerBuilder. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.uswww.taylor.k12fl.us From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites If you're going to pick two, I'd go for Dice and LinkedIn. Many people I know (including myself) are finding a lot of their resources through LinkedIn. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ?? on jobsites
I keep an eye on the job listings on LinkedIn, and for my region it has very few compared to the likes of Dice, Monster, and CareerBuilder. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites If you're going to pick two, I'd go for Dice and LinkedIn. Many people I know (including myself) are finding a lot of their resources through LinkedIn. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com]mailto:[mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ?? on jobsites Hope everyone is well. We are looking to post some job openings and also search for tech positions of different levels and want to see the thoughts of monster.com versus careerbuilder.com. Thanks. CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RAMDisk Prevalence?
I'm reasonably sure that was a joke. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RAMDisk Prevalence? I backup to a RAM disk. It's much faster that way. At best, that's only a temporary backup. Useful if you're changing a file and need to revert to the previous version rather quickly. Otherwise, as soon as that machine goes down for any reason, your backup starts to fade rather quickly. Some of the compressed-air-ram-freezing techniques may be useful here, but unless you're nearby soon, you're out of luck. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RAMDisk Prevalence? On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't heard of the notion of using RAMdisks in AGES. Are people still using them? I backup to a RAM disk. It's much faster that way. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ?? on jobsites
So how does that work from the hiring side? You see someone with a profile that looks interesting, and make a pitch to them? One thing I've noticed is that 99% of the people on LinkedIn have career opportunities listed as something to contact them for-including people who I know are very happy with their jobs and aren't really looking elsewhere. I suspect that a lot of people who have that aren't, in fact, looking for new career opportunities. Although I'm sure that if the offer were good enough, they might be persuaded. :) John From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites It's not just postings but making sure your profile there is discoverable in the right way. I haven't posted any req's on LinkedIn personally, but, I've found resources through it simply through keyword searching. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites I keep an eye on the job listings on LinkedIn, and for my region it has very few compared to the likes of Dice, Monster, and CareerBuilder. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ?? on jobsites If you're going to pick two, I'd go for Dice and LinkedIn. Many people I know (including myself) are finding a lot of their resources through LinkedIn. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
Makes me extra glad to have Windows Phone. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'? And then, this: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57334575-17/carrier-iq-tracking-iphone-customers-too-hacker-says/?tag=mncol;posts ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. :) John -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Makes me extra glad to have Windows Phone. Do we have any reason to believe the carriers aren't tracking that somehow, too? Some people said, Glad I'm on Verizon!. Then the apparent Verizon reporting was discovered. Other people were saying, Glad I don't use Android!. Then Symbian and RIM reporting was discovered. Other people said, Hah hah! Apple would *never* let this happen! Then the iOS reporting was discovered. There appears to be a trend here. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'?
But really, Windows Phone *does* rock. Just sayin'. John (And yeah, I do recognize that a similar story about their platform could well come out in the future. At which time hopefully no one will recall my current smugness.) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'? I reject your reality and substitute it with my own. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: There appears to be a trend here. To make my point explict: People patting themselves on the back about how this clearly proves their favorite platform is the One True Cell Phone are *missing the point*. The problem here is: Cell phone carriers want to track our every move, and are generally doing everything they can to do so, without our knowledge, and despite our objections. That's what we should be going on about. Not Google/RIM/Apple/Microsoft sucks/rocks. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IE9 No Print - Some Users
There's no Win7 driver for the 1012, but we were able to get it working using Vista or XP drivers. Every single app printed fine, including IE-until we upgraded to v9. Then we started getting javascript errors every time we tried to print from IE. John From: Mark Boeck [mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE9 No Print - Some Users I could not get my LJ 1012 to cooperate with win 7 pro either (this was prior to IE9) but... my problem's not printer driver related. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Been there, done that. There are known issues with IE9 and certain printers/drivers. We couldn't get our HP LaserJet 1012 units to print from IE9. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Mark Boeck [mailto:netadmin...@gmail.commailto:netadmin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE9 No Print - Some Users Yes, there are printers in devices and printers. The users that can't print in IE9 can print from anything else. When the effected users do a print preview in IE9, a blank page shows up. Hope that clarification helps. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Please define cannot print a little better. Do the printers show up in the profile? Can you select them in IE's print dialog, or are they not there to be selected? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Boeck netadmin...@gmail.commailto:netadmin...@gmail.com wrote: Greets! All the users PCs mentioned here are in the same OU. All users have their profile on a server so it follows them. (Roaming profile) All actions refer to a user logged on as themself at different PCs. Opening IE9 with Run As Administrator, of course, solves the problem (but not for the user.) The Issue: 2 users cannot print on IE9. This is true for the user from PC to PC. Users who can print IE9 can print on PCs belonging to users who cannot print IE9. Obviously a per-user issue. Thanks in advance! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IE9 No Print - Some Users
Been there, done that. There are known issues with IE9 and certain printers/drivers. We couldn't get our HP LaserJet 1012 units to print from IE9. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Mark Boeck [mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE9 No Print - Some Users Yes, there are printers in devices and printers. The users that can't print in IE9 can print from anything else. When the effected users do a print preview in IE9, a blank page shows up. Hope that clarification helps. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Please define cannot print a little better. Do the printers show up in the profile? Can you select them in IE's print dialog, or are they not there to be selected? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Boeck netadmin...@gmail.commailto:netadmin...@gmail.com wrote: Greets! All the users PCs mentioned here are in the same OU. All users have their profile on a server so it follows them. (Roaming profile) All actions refer to a user logged on as themself at different PCs. Opening IE9 with Run As Administrator, of course, solves the problem (but not for the user.) The Issue: 2 users cannot print on IE9. This is true for the user from PC to PC. Users who can print IE9 can print on PCs belonging to users who cannot print IE9. Obviously a per-user issue. Thanks in advance! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gadgets
No advice on the gadgets, but congrats on the housing upgrade! :) John From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Gadgets Just moved to a much bigger house and I am trying to revamp all my electronic kit. I have a lot of gym equipment in my garage, but I was fancying putting some sort of music-playing device into the garage that could connect up to my TeraStation and play a selection of music directly from there. Buying a stereo and burning a load of mp3s onto a CD/DVD seems s dated now...can anyone recommend any devices that might be able to achieve this for me? I've already got a streaming box linked to the TV that fires movies/music/pictures onto the TV which works great, but I doubt I could run a cable all the way from the streaming box to the garage (it is a much bigger house). Would I need a device to output the music in the garage as well as another streaming device? I've been Googling about (probably not very cleverly) and I've found plenty stuff that can stream music across to a stereo, but a) I don't have a stereo - I used to play all music through my TV, and b) kit like SqueezeBox seems fairly expensive. I'm not wanting to spend a great deal of money here, quality isn't that important, just need some music in the background while I pound the punchbags! All suggestions gratefully welcomed. TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Easy Way to View and Sort By Folder Sizes
Can you tell a PS novice how to get this to sort by size? That would make it perfect. John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Easy Way to View and Sort By Folder Sizes I wrote this for someone here (well, on some mailing list, I think it was this one) a couple months ago, but I use it all the time now. -get-foldersize.ps1- function Get-FolderSize( $path = $home ) { $code = { ('{0:0.0} MB' -f ($this/1MB)) } Get-ChildItem -Path $Path | Where-Object { $_.Length -eq $null } | ForEach-Object { Write-Progress -Activity 'Calculating Total Size for:' -Status $_.FullName $sum = Get-ChildItem $_.FullName -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue | Measure-Object -Property Length -Sum -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue $bytes = $sum.Sum if ($bytes -eq $null) { $bytes = 0 } $result = 1 | Select-Object -Property Path, TotalSize $result.Path = $_.FullName $result.TotalSize = $bytes | Add-Member -MemberType ScriptMethod -Name toString -Value $code -Force -PassThru $result } } Get-FolderSize $args -get-foldersize.ps1- Example: PS C:\Scripts .\Get-FolderSize.ps1 c:\windows Path TotalSize - C:\windows\ADAM 3.6 MB C:\windows\ADWS 0.7 MB C:\windows\AppCompat 0.1 MB C:\windows\AppPatch 10.4 MB C:\windows\assembly 2436.4 MB C:\windows\Boot 19.7 MB C:\windows\Branding 2.2 MB C:\windows\CSC 0.0 MB C:\windows\Cursors 0.1 MB C:\windows\debug 8.6 MB C:\windows\diagnostics 1.0 MB C:\windows\DigitalLocker 0.0 MB C:\windows\Downloaded Installations 4.9 MB C:\windows\Downloaded Program Files 19.7 MB C:\windows\Driver Cache 0.3 MB C:\windows\en0.1 MB C:\windows\en-US 0.1 MB C:\windows\Fonts 376.1 MB C:\windows\Globalization 9.6 MB C:\windows\Help 68.1 MB C:\windows\idmu 0.3 MB C:\windows\IME 136.8 MB .. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Easy Way to View and Sort By Folder Sizes We use folder redirection here, and I'm trying to get a handle on which users have the most stuff. So we have something like: x:\path\user1 x:\path\user2 x:\path\user3 and so on. I'd like to look at x:\path and sort all the folders in it by size, displaying the size in MB. So the results would be something like: x:\path\user3500 MB x:\path\user1200 MB x:\path\user2100 MB What's the easiest way to do this? I'll need specifics (e.g., don't tell me I can do it with PS unless you're gonna tell me precisely how). :) John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: web filtering
We've been on iBoss for a couple of years now, and have been very pleased. We left Websense for iBoss due largely to the pricing. Integration with Active Directory was a big selling point for us. And having a variety of user types ranging from young kids to young adults to adult employees, I needed a system that allowed me to easily setup a variety of different filtering groups/rules. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: web filtering I've finally gotten a budget to put in place a web filtering platform. I've looked at three so far: Websense, iPrism and Barracuda. Of those, I like Websense but it was too costly and no one liked Barracuda. iPrism is looking good so far but I'd like to demo a few more. I'm not opposed to a cloud-based service either. If you are using a web-filtering product, can you tell me what it is and whether you feel it is worth the price you pay? I've been reading some reviews on different products, but a review is secondary to what actual users experience. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: web filtering
iBoss handles all this very well. You can configure per-user, per-device, or a combination. And reporting options are numerous. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: web filtering Around 200 users as not everyone is allowed access to the internet. Our firewall doesn't do any kind of web filtering. Good reporting must be an essential part of the product. I just got a request from a supervisor asking for a web usage report on all the people in Admitting and MI. Trying to glean that info from syslogs would be a nightmare. I've tried it before on a smaller scale and it was quite time consuming. The ability to customize for either user or machine, too. For example, we have a training room set up where people can go and do personal stuff like FB or ebay. So, being able to set a policy so training room pc's can get to those sites but block MI or MM pc's is also a requirement. From: paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukmailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: web filtering Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:48:53 + Our firewall has URL filtering which is provided by Brightcloud. Seems pretty effective. You've not mentioned user count or what your current firewall is, or what you're really trying to do (do you want lot of nice reports on normal activity or do you just want to block bad stuff?). FWIW you could use a DNS service like DYN and you'd get Barracuda's web filtering, so you have a ton of options from cheap to very expensive. Paul ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Now I feel bad. I consider it to be a long day if I work until 5:00. John From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Shooky Baby is extremely busy with his job at Peak10. The night we met, I worked until 7:30PM, met Shooky at 8, we left Chili's at 9:45 and Shooky headed back to the office. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Ouch! My job may not pay much or provide opportunities for advancement, but it has one thing going for it: my employers don't expect my job to be my life. John From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT That is a short day for me, its usually 7:15am to 6:00pm at the least... Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 [cid:image001.jpg@01CC9AD1.0A01BC30] From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 8:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Now I feel bad. I consider it to be a long day if I work until 5:00. John From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Shooky Baby is extremely busy with his job at Peak10. The night we met, I worked until 7:30PM, met Shooky at 8, we left Chili's at 9:45 and Shooky headed back to the office. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Good grief... How did all of that junk get in my message? I'm embarrassed. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_E4F47298C1DD67478772ED46F048B6BE497B9587C6ExchangeCoret_ MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us --_000_E4F47298C1DD67478772ED46F048B6BE497B9587C6ExchangeCoret_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking of Gartner, I just read this: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/service-oriented/does-information-technology-crea= te-or-destroy-jobs-or-is-this-even-the-right-question/7939?tag=3Dnl.e539 It quotes a Gartner analyst as saying that most of what the CFO, CEO and m= anagers do today will be done better by machines within a couple of decade= s. Now, I know that upper management has a reputation for being dumber than a = box of rocks (thanks, Dilbert!). But the reality is that there are plenty o= f enterprise leaders with a great deal of wisdom, and they apply that wisdo= m to their jobs. We're way more than a couple of decades away from computer= s having or emulating wisdom, and a Gartner analyst who thinks otherwise ha= s probably spent too much time watching The Jetsons. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us --_000_E4F47298C1DD67478772ED46F048B6BE497B9587C6ExchangeCoret_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html xmlns:v=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml xmlns:o=3Durn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office xmlns:w=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word = xmlns:m=3Dhttp://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml; xmlns=3Dhttp:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40headmeta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content= =3Dtext/html; charset=3Dus-asciimeta name=3DGenerator content=3DMicros= oft Word 14 (filtered medium)style!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-style-priority:99; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;} p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:Balloon Text Char; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:8.0pt; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;} span.BalloonTextChar {mso-style-name:Balloon Text Char; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:Balloon Text; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;} span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle21 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle23 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle24 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle25 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle26 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --/style!--[if gte mso 9]xml o:shapedefaults v:ext=3Dedit spidmax=3D1026 / /xml![endif]--!--[if gte mso 9]xml o:shapelayout v:ext=3Dedit o:idmap v:ext=3Dedit data=3D1 / /o:shapelayout/xml![endif]--/headbody lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vli= nk=3Dpurplediv class=3DWordSection1pspan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo= nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1F497D'Speaking of Gartner, I just= read this:o:p/o:p/span/ppspan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fa= mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1F497D'a href=3Dhttp://www.zdnet.com/= blog/service-oriented/does-information
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
That was 30 minutes ago. I can barely remember what happened 30 SECONDS ago. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT I bet you replied to a message that was in your sent items folder. Am I right? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Good grief... How did all of that junk get in my message? I'm embarrassed. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_E4F47298C1DD67478772ED46F048B6BE497B9587C6ExchangeCoret_ MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us --_000_E4F47298C1DD67478772ED46F048B6BE497B9587C6ExchangeCoret_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking of Gartner, I just read this: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/service-oriented/does-information-technology-crea= te-or-destroy-jobs-or-is-this-even-the-right-question/7939?tag=3Dnl.e539 It quotes a Gartner analyst as saying that most of what the CFO, CEO and m= anagers do today will be done better by machines within a couple of decade= s. Now, I know that upper management has a reputation for being dumber than a = box of rocks (thanks, Dilbert!). But the reality is that there are plenty o= f enterprise leaders with a great deal of wisdom, and they apply that wisdo= m to their jobs. We're way more than a couple of decades away from computer= s having or emulating wisdom, and a Gartner analyst who thinks otherwise ha= s probably spent too much time watching The Jetsons. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us --_000_E4F47298C1DD67478772ED46F048B6BE497B9587C6ExchangeCoret_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html xmlns:v=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml xmlns:o=3Durn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office xmlns:w=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word = xmlns:m=3Dhttp://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml; xmlns=3Dhttp:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40headmeta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content= =3Dtext/html; charset=3Dus-asciimeta name=3DGenerator content=3DMicros= oft Word 14 (filtered medium)style!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-style-priority:99; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;} p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:Balloon Text Char; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:8.0pt; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;} span.BalloonTextChar {mso-style-name:Balloon Text Char; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:Balloon Text; font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;} span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle21 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle23 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle24 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle25 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle26 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
The hype cycle applies to outsourcing and the cloud like it applies to everything. Of course, that doesn't make them invalid. Outsourcing isn't going away-enterprises are just realizing that there's a right time/way and a wrong time/way to do it. Future business leaders may be more equipped than the current generation to make smart choices here; I can tell you that we studied outsourcing quite a bit in grad school. The same will be true of cloud computing. We're undoubtedly around the Peak of Inflated Expectations now, which invariably leads to the Trough of Disillusionment. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Yeah...their track record isn't great (particularly over the last couple years), however, CIOs and CEOs still eat them up. Gartner, right now, is promoting the Cloud like there's nothing else. 3 years ago it was outsourcing. Now, companies are bringing resources back in-house because they realized... Oops that didn't work. You just have to be very careful with industry information. It can be just as politically motivated as anything else. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [OT] Stats about IT
There's something to be said for normalizing cash flows. :) But even so, cloud computing really can result in cost savings if the circumstances are right. The cloud is really about three things: access anywhere and anytime, outsourcing non-core competencies, and leveraging economies of scale. The latter two can save money, with the last having the greatest potential for savings. We've been using the cloud here since long before it was called the cloud. We have software systems that require mainframes to run, but we never wanted to be in the business of owning/operating/maintaining/backing up/upgrading/troubleshooting/fixing a mainframe. It would've made no sense for us to get our own. So we pay a large data center to take care of all of that stuff for us, and that has worked out really well for the twenty years or so that we've done it. John From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT Could offerings, in my experience don't offer (much) cost savings. All they seem to do is change capital costs to operating costs, which normalizes cash flows. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Agree that the Cloud will continue to be a topic - but, if the economy improves, no one will care about the Cloud. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT The hype cycle applies to outsourcing and the cloud like it applies to everything. Of course, that doesn't make them invalid. Outsourcing isn't going away-enterprises are just realizing that there's a right time/way and a wrong time/way to do it. Future business leaders may be more equipped than the current generation to make smart choices here; I can tell you that we studied outsourcing quite a bit in grad school. The same will be true of cloud computing. We're undoubtedly around the Peak of Inflated Expectations now, which invariably leads to the Trough of Disillusionment. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hyper-V VM's and unnecessary heart failure
I'm not sure I'd have felt guilty for charging them for the full hour. This seems like a rather obscure issue-not the type of thing you'd have been expected to know (if the latter, then I definitely wouldn't charge). Of course, the next time this happens the client (whoever that client may be) will benefit since you'll be armed with the extra knowledge. :) John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 2:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hyper-V VM's and unnecessary heart failure Remotely working on a %nightjob% client tonight, both a VM and corresponding host unexpectedly drop my LogMeIn connection. I see from LogMeIn that other systems in that room are online, so I know it wasn't the circuit that dropped. Oh joy, I get to drive in (thankfully a short 20 min drive). I get onsite and the host server is halted at the POST screen for the eSATA RAID controller, and the eSATA RAID controller reports a degraded disk on one of the two volumes. Power everything off, pull the drives, disconnect/reconnect the cables, etc. Power it back up and everything shows good. So the host comes up (YAY ½ way there! Well...) and I log in and watch for the VM to start...it gets to 50% then stops, and after 15 minutes (and you know how long 15 minutes is when you're waiting for a *VERY* critical server to come up don'tcha?) the VM goes back to stopped. As I do full volume backups nightly to the eSATA I'm not too worried yet, but even recovering to that this client would lose a day of work (Internet backups start at 7pm, servers went offline at 5:13pm). A cursory look at the event logs shows nothing exciting, so I change the VM autostart from 60 seconds after host OS to 500 seconds and then reboot the host. No change. Joy. Thinking maybe it's an issue on the host I pull a two week old DISK2VHD file that was handier than the backups, I create a new VM on the host and use this VHD. That VM fires up just fine, but it makes me wonder if I can just create a new VM and point to the existing disk files for this critical server. I file that away for plan B. I hit the event logs again, I went through both system and app logs for the timeframe including 30 mins on either side of the start failures (and you know I tried to start that VM more than just those two times...). Somehow I stumbled upon one of Windows 2008's 1 zillion new logs, under Windows logs\Applicaitons and Services logs\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V Worker and I found my golden nugget: Log Name: Microsoft-Windows-Hyper-V-Worker-Admin Source:Microsoft-Windows-Hyper-V-Worker Date: 10/28/2011 7:02:45 PM Event ID: 12140 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: User: NETWORK SERVICE Computer: Host4.thehosed.one.local Description: 'thehosed.one': Failed to open attachment '\\192.168.116.249\Inst-server\Windows 2008 R2\SW_DVD5_Windows_Svr_DC_EE_SE_Web_2008R2_64-bit_English_X15-59754.ISO'. Error: 'The specified network name is no longer available.' (0x80070040). (Virtual machine 97527135-A765-4700-AF66-C6FE2143391D) Event Xml: Google-Fu then returned a thread to me where someone else was having the same issue because about a VM not starting and it turned out to be a CD-ROM driver issue. Was the VM was failing to start because I had the CD-ROM mapped to a network location that was no longer valid? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Go into VM settings, remove the CD-ROM from the config and boot the VM. Presto! Took me just over four hours to find the necessary 2-second config change... I charge 1.5x my normal hourly rate to break my routine and drive onsite, somehow I think just one hour is fairhere - sometimes the lesson and the relief that there was zero data loss for the client is reward enough! David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using co-workers. :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
Wait for what, though? It was a solid platform out of the gate (I’ve had a WP7 phone for nearly a year). With the Mango update that just came out, some rough edges were polished and the platform really shines. There’s nothing I want to be able to do with my WP7 phone that I can’t do—although obviously everyone has differing needs. WP7 gives choice (like Android) without fragmentation (like iPhone). It’s the best of both worlds. John From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Windows Phone is still wait and see. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using co-workers. :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
If Apple had offered a phone with a hardware keyboard, I'd have bought it. The lack of that choice was the catalyst for me going with WP7 (I was previously WM6.5 with a Tilt 2 like Michael). I have the LG Quantum and have been very pleased with it. John From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? I have to say I've been giving serious thought to a Windows mobile. RIM appear to be dying on their feet (much as though my Blackberry is perfectly adequate, currently), and I just can't get away with an IPhone. It's the whole walled garden thing that doesn't sit with me, plus the fact I find the touch keyboard a real pain to use. My wife has one and I hate using it. Given that Android is pretty similar, that leaves me with only the WinMo to consider. Seeing as though I've been using MS kit since about 1991, hopefully it should feel pretty familiar to me. So nice to see someone giving it a thumbs-up. On 11 October 2011 15:52, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Wait for what, though? It was a solid platform out of the gate (I've had a WP7 phone for nearly a year). With the Mango update that just came out, some rough edges were polished and the platform really shines. There's nothing I want to be able to do with my WP7 phone that I can't do-although obviously everyone has differing needs. WP7 gives choice (like Android) without fragmentation (like iPhone). It's the best of both worlds. John From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Windows Phone is still wait and see. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using co-workers. :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
Well, most of us change phones every 1-2 years anyway. So if WP7 goes away in that period, I’ll survive. :-) But I’d be very, VERY surprised if that happened. Microsoft appears to be extremely committed to this platform. And it’s in the process of taking off as we speak. John From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Wait to if it actually takes off. No one wants to buy a phone that won't be supported in a year from now. Its the Zune/Kin issue. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Wait for what, though? It was a solid platform out of the gate (I’ve had a WP7 phone for nearly a year). With the Mango update that just came out, some rough edges were polished and the platform really shines. There’s nothing I want to be able to do with my WP7 phone that I can’t do—although obviously everyone has differing needs. WP7 gives choice (like Android) without fragmentation (like iPhone). It’s the best of both worlds. John From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Windows Phone is still wait and see. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]mailto:[mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using co-workers. :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful
RE: AV and malware protection?
I have Windows Update configured to check for updates and notify me when they're available--never to install them without my permission. But MSE's definitions are updated regularly behind the scenes. So, I think its updates are handled differently. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV and malware protection? I don't trust MSE, as it requires Automatic Updates to update itself and I don't let AU run on my systems. Microsoft has slipped to many things like Windows Genuine Advantage Notification in as part of critical Windows security updates for me to trust AU to run automatically. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AV and malware protection?
I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well enough for me. Or am I naïve? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: AV and malware protection? If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7), what AV, firewall, malware protection would you install? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AV and malware protection?
The current version of MSE? I think it's on v2.0 now. Of course, there's no substitute for careful behavior, as others have mentioned. I'm extremely cautious, and honestly can't recall a single time that my antimalware (MSE or the stuff I used before that) software has protected from a threat over the past few years. Maybe MSE works well for me because it never has to do anything. :) John From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV and malware protection? I would trust Malwarebytes over a traditional a product. I wouldnt trust MSE what-so-ever. I've seen web-based drive by exploits absolutely destroy it. If I was going to couple with an AV product, I'd use Kaspersky primarily, with ESET as a secondary choice. -- Espi On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:34 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well enough for me. Or am I naïve? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.commailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: AV and malware protection? If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7), what AV, firewall, malware protection would you install? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AV and malware protection?
That surprises me, because honestly I've heard that MSE is a pretty solid product. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV and malware protection? Yep, the current version. From what I have seen done to it by web-based exploit infections, I would classify the product as a joke. I thought it was decent before, but I currently have no faith in it. This being part of the scenario of users, using IE, getting hit with drive-by's, those drive-by's pulling down more crap, and ultimately owning the system with rootkits. IMO, MSE has been worthless in these situations. -- Espi On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:57 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: The current version of MSE? I think it's on v2.0 now. Of course, there's no substitute for careful behavior, as others have mentioned. I'm extremely cautious, and honestly can't recall a single time that my antimalware (MSE or the stuff I used before that) software has protected from a threat over the past few years. Maybe MSE works well for me because it never has to do anything. :) John From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV and malware protection? I would trust Malwarebytes over a traditional a product. I wouldnt trust MSE what-so-ever. I've seen web-based drive by exploits absolutely destroy it. If I was going to couple with an AV product, I'd use Kaspersky primarily, with ESET as a secondary choice. -- Espi On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:34 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well enough for me. Or am I naïve? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.commailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: AV and malware protection? If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7), what AV, firewall, malware protection would you install? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Resolved: One Machine Can't Access DFS
Well, not resolved in the sense that I know what caused the problem-but resolved in the sense that it's no longer an issue. We re-imaged the machine. :) But I sure would like to know what caused it. We've seen it happen on one or two other machines, too. John On 19 sep 2011, at 15:10, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I've got one client machine (Win7 SP1) that seems to be unable to access DFS resources. Regardless of who you're logged into the machine as (regular user, domain admin, etc.), when trying to reach our DFS system you get an error saying access is denied. A dialog box entitled Network Error appears and says Windows cannot access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath. You do not have permission to access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath. Contact your network administrator to request access. This isn't a user permission issue. You can directly access the data via \\server\sharefile:///\\server\share--just not through DFS. And the error ONLY happens on this machine. Log in as the same user on the machine next to it, and you can access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath just fine. I'm stumped. We tried unjoining the machine from the domain and rejoining thinking maybe something had happened with the trust relationship. No dice. Any ideas? I'm stumped. I can always re-image the machine, which I suspect may fix the issue. But if there's a way to track down the root of the problem without doing that, I'd prefer to. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP
We had to do something like this for one of our products that's hosted externally. I created a VM just for this, and made it an RODC. I just somehow felt a little better doing that vs. a regular DC, although maybe that's a false sense of security. And of course, ACLs restricting access solely to the IP address(es) of the externally-hosted product. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LDAP\DC with a public IP We are getting a new product to report variances. It is web-based but using LDAP to authenticate users. The way it works is that a person can log a variance anonymously but then directors can use their AD credentials to log in and report their findings. My issue is that they want my two LDAP servers (which are my dc's) to have a public IP address. Even with ACL and security, I am very uncomfortable with having my DC's be visible on the 'net. From past experience of scanning my firewall logs, I know that a lot of times, hackers (or script kiddies) just use a range of public IP's to scan for vulnerabilities. Am I being unduly alarmist in my concern? Do other organizations attach a public IP to their LDAP servers? Thanks for any opinions you can give me. I have no problem going back to the people involved and saying ' I was wrong.' OTOH, I also have no problem telling them no way, you need to come up with a work around. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
I still have the CompTIA certs on my resume, and the certificates in my office. I guess they're moot now, as I've moved from a solely technical role into more of a managerial role, but I just can't seem to let them go. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Ya, but that A+ still hangs in there :) On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:31 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: LOL, I took CNE (the little Novell cert) off my resume a few years ago.. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: You mean my NT4 MCSE should be removed from my CV? I thought that was my killer qualification :-) What no CNE? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human, and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up doing it subconsciously. Imagine two 55-year-old applicants looking for work. One is 50 lbs overweight, has messy hair, and is dressed in ill-fitting, unprofessional clothes. The other is fit, well-groomed, and in a tailored suit. All things being equal, which one is more likely to be hired? Which one conveys an image that simultaneously portrays both experience and vigor? That's the image to strive for-the one that shows that you have the wisdom that comes from being around the block a time or two, but also still have plenty of youthful energy. As for college, that works to my advantage because I graduated well into adulthood. So the date of graduation is a bit misleading on a resume. :-) John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Daniel Evensen [mailto:dane...@att.net] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT I try to focus on the items that can be changed. My health, I walk 50 miles a month, dye my hair, am the correct weight for my height, and I dress to fit the corporate environment, etc. I try to keep abreast of new technologies and I am going to start attending local user group meetings. When I was at EDS now HP I remember being told they turned a applicant away because he did not dress like them and they felt uncomfortable. I can not change the current National employment crisis, our countries viewpoints on age etc. They can figure your age by the dates of college graduation and employment history so that is one reason Andrews advice was spot on. Daniel Evensen ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Touché. :-) The phrase all things being equal was my qualifier-in my scenario, both applicants have comparable backgrounds and skills. Appearance is the only difference. Even in IT, I'd be inclined to go for the polished applicant. John From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: OT:Age Discrimination in IT For an IT I would choose the one with messy hair Guido Elia HELPPC Da: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: venerdì 23 settembre 2011 16.29 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human, and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up doing it subconsciously. Imagine two 55-year-old applicants looking for work. One is 50 lbs overweight, has messy hair, and is dressed in ill-fitting, unprofessional clothes. The other is fit, well-groomed, and in a tailored suit. All things being equal, which one is more likely to be hired? Which one conveys an image that simultaneously portrays both experience and vigor? That's the image to strive for-the one that shows that you have the wisdom that comes from being around the block a time or two, but also still have plenty of youthful energy. As for college, that works to my advantage because I graduated well into adulthood. So the date of graduation is a bit misleading on a resume. :-) John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Daniel Evensen [mailto:dane...@att.net]mailto:[mailto:dane...@att.net] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT I try to focus on the items that can be changed. My health, I walk 50 miles a month, dye my hair, am the correct weight for my height, and I dress to fit the corporate environment, etc. I try to keep abreast of new technologies and I am going to start attending local user group meetings. When I was at EDS now HP I remember being told they turned a applicant away because he did not dress like them and they felt uncomfortable. I can not change the current National employment crisis, our countries viewpoints on age etc. They can figure your age by the dates of college graduation and employment history so that is one reason Andrews advice was spot on. Daniel Evensen ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
+1. An organization whose leadership isn't open to challenges is an organization that's unlikely to thrive over the long-term. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Yeah, because questioning superiors is bad and all. I mean, it worked great for the Nazis. Yes, I did it. I Godwinned this thread. Seriously, though, if you can't ask questions then it's not a place you want to work, anyway. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Age Discrimination in IT
I've had a WP 7 phone since last year, and love it. Mango will make it even better. It's a vastly underrated platform. Actually, that's not true-people who have actually tried it seem to be pretty happy with it. Unfortunately, few regular (non-IT) folk have a clue about it thanks to crappy marketing on Microsoft's part. But I digress. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Age Discrimination in IT Around here the sales people are extremely agressive in pushing WinMo phones. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: Once you know how to research being on the cutting edge of specific hardware in't so important. Being able to pay general attention to trends and research when needed is. In regards to phones, I have the Windows Phone and I have to say having used the Mango release (any day now) you might want to see if that will fit your smart phone needs. Note, most sales people at the store will talk it down no matter what. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: One Machine Can't Access DFS
This one is wired, alas. From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: One Machine Can't Access DFS For kicksis this machine wireless? If so, have you tried while connected to the wire with the wireless turned off after rooting? Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings. On Sep 19, 2011 9:11 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I've got one client machine (Win7 SP1) that seems to be unable to access DFS resources. Regardless of who you're logged into the machine as (regular user, domain admin, etc.), when trying to reach our DFS system you get an error saying access is denied. A dialog box entitled Network Error appears and says Windows cannot access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath%3cfile:\mydfspath. You do not have permission to access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath%3cfile:\mydfspath. Contact your network administrator to request access. This isn't a user permission issue. You can directly access the data via \\server\sharefile:///\\server\share--justfile:///\\server\share%3cfile:\server\share%3e--just not through DFS. And the error ONLY happens on this machine. Log in as the same user on the machine next to it, and you can access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath%3cfile:\mydfspath just fine. I'm stumped. We tried unjoining the machine from the domain and rejoining thinking maybe something had happened with the trust relationship. No dice. Any ideas? I'm stumped. I can always re-image the machine, which I suspect may fix the issue. But if there's a way to track down the root of the problem without doing that, I'd prefer to. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: One Machine Can't Access DFS
I've only tried it using FQDN-haven't tried short name. Would be willing to give it a shot, although either should work. Theoretically. :) From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: One Machine Can't Access DFS Do you get a different result if you use fqdn vs short name resolution? -Anders Sent from my iPhone On 19 sep 2011, at 15:10, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I've got one client machine (Win7 SP1) that seems to be unable to access DFS resources. Regardless of who you're logged into the machine as (regular user, domain admin, etc.), when trying to reach our DFS system you get an error saying access is denied. A dialog box entitled Network Error appears and says Windows cannot access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath. You do not have permission to access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath. Contact your network administrator to request access. This isn't a user permission issue. You can directly access the data via \\server\sharefile:///\\server\share--just not through DFS. And the error ONLY happens on this machine. Log in as the same user on the machine next to it, and you can access \\mydfspathfile:///\\mydfspath just fine. I'm stumped. We tried unjoining the machine from the domain and rejoining thinking maybe something had happened with the trust relationship. No dice. Any ideas? I'm stumped. I can always re-image the machine, which I suspect may fix the issue. But if there's a way to track down the root of the problem without doing that, I'd prefer to. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
The Windows key does it for me, but the Hyper-V VM screen has to be full-screen for this to work. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video CTRL- ESC seems to do the trick. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Nope. My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. :) From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video Alt-f4? On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote: I've got it running on a hyper v host. Installs faster than Win 7. Now there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard. Anyone discover keyboard shortcut to exit an app after you enter it? D'oh! On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation though From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video ISOs are avail: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that option. John -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to get away from Metro. Even the Start button reportedly just switches back to Metro now. It can be controlled by GP. I've already proven that to myself. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
I always join by right-clicking Computer in Win7 and going from there. I'm obviously overlooking it... Rooting around in Control Panel I just don't see it. Is it under Network and Internet, I assume? I'm there, but all I see is homegroup stuff. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that option. John -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to get away from Metro. Even the Start button reportedly just switches back to Metro now. It can be controlled by GP. I've already proven that to myself. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
Got it. Thank you-I was losing my mind! From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video It's the System control panel. System and Security and then choose System Cheers Ken From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video I always join by right-clicking Computer in Win7 and going from there. I'm obviously overlooking it... Rooting around in Control Panel I just don't see it. Is it under Network and Internet, I assume? I'm there, but all I see is homegroup stuff. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that option. John -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to get away from Metro. Even the Start button reportedly just switches back to Metro now. It can be controlled by GP. I've already proven that to myself. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
Yep--MS has made it clear that the system requirements for Win8 will be the same as--or even less than--for Win7. Woot! John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: [a bunch of stuff] Wow. Thanks for that, very informative! It does sound intriguing. I'm especially heartened by the smaller memory footprint and faster boot pieces. For the first time in, I think, forever, with Win 7 and (if this holds) 8, Microsoft is trending towards improving performance. Good news. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video ISOs are avail: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: PMI PMP Certification
For everyone who was waiting with bated breath... I took the exam today and passed! What's next? I'm thinking ITIL... John From: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: OT: PMI PMP Certification I was wondering if there were any certified PMPs out there that could give me pointers on the exam. I had planned on taking it in around two months, but I just caught wind of the fact PMI is changing it on August 31. So now I'm cramming to see if I can get it done before the change. I took two project management courses in grad school pretty recently, and am currently reading a couple of PMP study guides. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: PMI PMP Certification
And was an English major as an undergrad. Although my grammar is much better than my spelling... -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 6:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: PMI PMP Certification Good work! You even spelled 'bated' correctly - rare these days, and always a plus in my book. Of course, you do work for a school system, or at least so it looks from your address... Kurt On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:03, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: For everyone who was waiting with bated breath… I took the exam today and passed! What’s next? I’m thinking ITIL... John From: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: OT: PMI PMP Certification I was wondering if there were any certified PMPs out there that could give me pointers on the exam. I had planned on taking it in around two months, but I just caught wind of the fact PMI is changing it on August 31. So now I’m cramming to see if I can get it done before the change. I took two project management courses in grad school pretty recently, and am currently reading a couple of PMP study guides. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
The DX is black and white-just with a bigger screen. E-ink seems to be the best for long-term reading because (A.) it's easy on the eyes and (B.) it requires just a trickle of power from a battery. But to be feasible for textbooks, it has to support color. China's Hanvon makes a color e-ink reader, but the technology is still very new. The colors aren't bright, and screen-draws are slow. Maybe in a year or two these will be ready for prime time. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Look again on Amazon I was told what I was looking at was a color Kindle they are larger than the B/W Kindle colors looked good but like I said that is all the look I got at it. I think this is what I was looking at. http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Generation/dp/B002GYWHSQ/ref=sa_menu_kdx23. It does not say one way or the other. Maybe I was told wrong! I sure wish the kids would have let me have a better look at it. Jon Harris On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's no color Kindle, as far as I know. I think there's a color Nook, but it doesn't use e-ink-so it's a backlit display, and much lower battery life. E-ink is very easy on the eyes. My wife has a Kindle, and loves it. It runs forever on a charge, and is easy to read-including in bright sunlight. There's no color, though. That's fine for reading novels and such, but for kids' textbooks color is a must. John From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares John, do you know if anyone is looking at either the nook or kindle color e-ink devices? I just saw my first kindle one this weekend and while the kids that had it were happy as a clam with what it could do I could not tell, the kids would not share with me, if e-books looked that much better or not. Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I didn't say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. I said that for MOST enterprises, they're not the PREDOMINANT document type. Or maybe we're just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are. John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Voicemail systems msgs: check. Training videos: check. Lectures: check. Etc... -sc From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of business document. John ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Depends on the job. For administrative staff, not so much. John From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Really? My experience with education institutions is that they are voracious consumers multimedia. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I didn't say that audio, video, and pictures were never used in the enterprise. I said that for MOST enterprises, they're not the PREDOMINANT document type. Or maybe we're just the exception in this regard, and other organizations are consuming multimedia at much larger volumes than we are. John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Voicemail systems msgs: check. Training videos: check. Lectures: check. Etc... -sc From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of business document. John ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Management of an e-reader is WAY simpler than management of a PC, though (assuming the e-reader has enterprise management tools, which remains a huge assumption). A couple of years ago, we had a one-to-one laptop initiative with all of our 8th and 9th grade students. It was extremely labor-intensive; no matter how tightly we locked down the computers, there was always some way kids could screw them up. And battery life was constantly an issue. Basic e-readers will obviously do much less than PCs, but there's also a lot less to go wrong with them. They're much more feasible for schools. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I'm making assumptions about the documents, and shame on me for it. I could be completely off-base. But if we're talking about accessing MS Office documents created on a PC and stored on a Windows server, then yes-that's generally a PC thing. Especially if you want to edit those documents. Web browsing can be fun on an iPad, until you need to access a site that require Flash or Java. Then it becomes a PC thing. I don't mind reading my e-mail on my iPad, but when I have to actually reply to a message-at least with more than a few words--I need a hardware keyboard. And of course, I could get a hardware keyboard for my iPad, but then we're right back to jumping through hoops to make it do what I can already do with a laptop/netbook/desktop. Other enterprises undoubtedly have more flexibility than us. But as I mentioned earlier, we're a Windows shop. We're generally just not able to support devices-whether they're laptops, tablets, or whatever-that aren't running Windows. I say generally because we could justify committing resources to investigating the integration of non-Windows devices IF there were a compelling business reason for doing it. So far there hasn't been one. John From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Accessing documents is a PC thing? Is email a PC thing? What about web browsing? It's not like the request was to create 3D movies via a tablet, which one could argue is more of a PC thing... -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 23, 2011 8:30 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Agreed. Which was my point very early in this thread-we need to pick the right tool for the right job. What started this discussion was essentially a question of how to get an iPad to do PC stuff, which implies that maybe the iPad isn't the right tool for that particular job. I'm a Disney junkie, so I found this interesting: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkg It's a good use of iPads in design and construction. But for all the talk of tablets replacing PCs, this video shows that we're not there yet. Watch closely, and you'll see that the video opens showing an Imagineer's iPad sitting on top of his PC. And not just any PC, but a laptop-the specific devices that tablets are said to be rapidly displacing. Of course, he's also running Windows XP. So I have my doubts about how technologically progressive WDI is. :) John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Thanks! I'm guessing that my principals have already looked at that and determined that it doesn't meet their needs, but I'll forward the link to them in case they haven't. Is this what you guys use? John From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares http://www.mcrel.org/powerwalkthrough From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares For instance, a tablet would probably be great to use by principals doing classroom walkthroughs and teacher evaluations. But so far, none of my principals have found a good app for that. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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We haven't tested the devices with kids yet. We don't want to put the cart before the horse; it we test and like a particular reader but the textbook companies don't offer their content in a format that works on it, we're out of luck. Ditto if the company that makes the e-reader doesn't provide a mechanism for centralized management. Florida recently passed a new law requiring migration to e-books in the coming years, so I suspect the technology vendors will hop on board soon. From my own personal experience with a Kindle, eye strain shouldn't be an issue with e-ink devices. John -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares How are the reports on eye strain? Are the kids liking them? Thanks, Mathew -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Management of an e-reader is WAY simpler than management of a PC, though (assuming the e-reader has enterprise management tools, which remains a huge assumption). A couple of years ago, we had a one-to-one laptop initiative with all of our 8th and 9th grade students. It was extremely labor-intensive; no matter how tightly we locked down the computers, there was always some way kids could screw them up. And battery life was constantly an issue. Basic e-readers will obviously do much less than PCs, but there's also a lot less to go wrong with them. They're much more feasible for schools. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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We provide high-level leadership, and make recommendations at a broad level. With limited resources, we focus on what gets us the most bang for the buck. We can only investigate a technology if it will impact enough users to justify the time/money spent doing it. And the best people to determine the needs of users are the users themselves. We don't have a crystal ball, nor do we--or could we--understand the minutiae of their jobs. John -Original Message- From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares At this point, I'd settle for ANY reason other than but all the cool people have an iPad! :-) Why wait for others to tell you what reasons they could use the devices. As IT Pros, I believe it is part of our job to have the foresight and leadership to be able to introduce new technology within our organizations and how it can be used by our users. As far as the concern that there are not the apps or tools to be able to support them; how about building them? Sounds to me that there is a great opportunity for some developer on this list to create a set of tools and, potentially make some money. Michael. -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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We have 500 employees. There are four of us in my department. We cannot possibly know all of their unique, individual needs. None of us has ever been a principal, or a teacher, or a lunchroom lady, or a janitor, or a secretary, or any of the other countless positions that exist. The only way to know what they all need-at a low level-is to work in those positions, or to spend quite a bit of time working very closely with the people who do. More time than we could ever hope to spend. End-users generally can't speak the language of technology, but that doesn't mean they can't voice their needs. If they express those needs (e.g., I wish there were a way to...), we can then research ways that technology can meet them. There's generally a flow of information from the bottom up... A lunchroom manager might report a need to the Food Services Coordinator, who might then come to us. Or a teacher might report a need to a principal, and the principal comes to us. But can we communicate directly with all of the end users at a level requisite for having a deep understand of their needs? No. John From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And the best people to determine the needs of users are the users themselves. We don't have a crystal ball, nor do we--or could we--understand the minutiae of their jobs I doubt I'm the only one here who will disagree with this, but the reason for our positions is precisely because the users can't equate their technology needs. The last thing I need is to come in one day to 250K different pieces of technology to support...some users like Lotus Notes for example and would want me to dump Exchange. YMMV - WJR On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We provide high-level leadership, and make recommendations at a broad level. With limited resources, we focus on what gets us the most bang for the buck. We can only investigate a technology if it will impact enough users to justify the time/money spent doing it. . John -Original Message- From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.commailto:mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares At this point, I'd settle for ANY reason other than but all the cool people have an iPad! :-) Why wait for others to tell you what reasons they could use the devices. As IT Pros, I believe it is part of our job to have the foresight and leadership to be able to introduce new technology within our organizations and how it can be used by our users. As far as the concern that there are not the apps or tools to be able to support them; how about building them? Sounds to me that there is a great opportunity for some developer on this list to create a set of tools and, potentially make some money. Michael. -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.commailto:mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Well, there's this: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/mcafee-malware-surging-on-mobile-platforms-especially-android/55537?tag=nl.e539 Now, that applies to Android--not iPad. But what I have to think about as an IT leader is, what happens if there IS a nasty bit of iPad malware? If I have a bunch of iPads on my network, how can I quickly deal with it? Can I centrally and rapidly deploy a fix? I have far more options for mitigating security risks on PCs than I do for iPads or tablets in general. John -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares What about the point I might have missed in this discussion on Security. I do not have any experience with an Ipad, but I hear they are HUGE Security Risks. I have heard this more than once, and I would like to know more on why. It is not that I do not believe the people telling me that, however they did not provide the facts as to why. Does anyone know why they are considered security risks? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Good heavens... When you refer to your team, do you mean your entire IT department? That couldn't possibly be right, could it? Our team of 4 is the whole IT department. 500 employees and 3,000 students, although the students are easy. We do standardize heavily here, even being small-ish. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Fair enough. Differences in scale and business we're in I imagine. We have only 8 folks on my team tending to the needs of well over 250,000 users. We have to understand the business, but we don't have to accept their individual definitions of their needs. But as I mentioned we have differing perspectives due to scale. - WJR On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:54, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We have 500 employees. There are four of us in my department. We cannot possibly know all of their unique, individual needs. None of us has ever been a principal, or a teacher, or a lunchroom lady, or a janitor, or a secretary, or any of the other countless positions that exist. The only way to know what they all need-at a low level-is to work in those positions, or to spend quite a bit of time working very closely with the people who do. More time than we could ever hope to spend. End-users generally can't speak the language of technology, but that doesn't mean they can't voice their needs. If they express those needs (e.g., I wish there were a way to...), we can then research ways that technology can meet them. There's generally a flow of information from the bottom up... A lunchroom manager might report a need to the Food Services Coordinator, who might then come to us. Or a teacher might report a need to a principal, and the principal comes to us. But can we communicate directly with all of the end users at a level requisite for having a deep understand of their needs? No. John From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And the best people to determine the needs of users are the users themselves. We don't have a crystal ball, nor do we--or could we--understand the minutiae of their jobs I doubt I'm the only one here who will disagree with this, but the reason for our positions is precisely because the users can't equate their technology needs. The last thing I need is to come in one day to 250K different pieces of technology to support...some users like Lotus Notes for example and would want me to dump Exchange. YMMV - WJR On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We provide high-level leadership, and make recommendations at a broad level. With limited resources, we focus on what gets us the most bang for the buck. We can only investigate a technology if it will impact enough users to justify the time/money spent doing it. . John -Original Message- From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.commailto:mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares At this point, I'd settle for ANY reason other than but all the cool people have an iPad! :-) Why wait for others to tell you what reasons they could use the devices. As IT Pros, I believe it is part of our job to have the foresight and leadership to be able to introduce new technology within our organizations and how it can be used by our users. As far as the concern that there are not the apps or tools to be able to support them; how about building them? Sounds to me that there is a great opportunity for some developer on this list to create a set of tools and, potentially make some money. Michael. -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.commailto:mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
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We were talking about a work situation, though. I would assume that in most enterprises, music, movies, and pictures wouldn't be the predominant type of business document. John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares True. Unlike time past, where a file was expected to be some PC-centric thing (a Word doc, spreadsheet, configuration file, etc...) Everything is a file these days: You music? Check. Movies? Check Pictures? Check. Heck, I suspect most people have more _NON-PC_ devices consuming files than PC's these days... -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Accessing documents is a PC thing? Is email a PC thing? What about web browsing? It's not like the request was to create 3D movies via a tablet, which one could argue is more of a PC thing... -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 23, 2011 8:30 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Agreed. Which was my point very early in this thread-we need to pick the right tool for the right job. What started this discussion was essentially a question of how to get an iPad to do PC stuff, which implies that maybe the iPad isn't the right tool for that particular job. I'm a Disney junkie, so I found this interesting: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkg It's a good use of iPads in design and construction. But for all the talk of tablets replacing PCs, this video shows that we're not there yet. Watch closely, and you'll see that the video opens showing an Imagineer's iPad sitting on top of his PC. And not just any PC, but a laptop-the specific devices that tablets are said to be rapidly displacing. Of course, he's also running Windows XP. So I have my doubts about how technologically progressive WDI is. :) John From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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My department's philosophy is that we're not going to jump through hoops to make users' iPads work like a PC. If they need a device that works like a PC, they should use a PC. I know that doesn't help you. It's just a pet peeve of mine and I had to vent. The iPad is really good at some things, and not so good at others. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Carry on. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Hi List! I have a client that would like to use thier iPad in meetings to pull up documents off of their Server 2008 file server. This client would like to be able to do this when local to the network and if possible remotely too. After doing some research it looks like the iPad can VPN to the network easy enough. I have found one app that looks like it might work for browsing file shares. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Is anyone currently doing this and would like to share their experience or combination of apps to make this happen? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
True-we're a large-ish enterprise (~500 employees, ~2,000 computers), and standardization is a must. Your mileage may vary. :) John From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I understand this point of view in some environments. Some places especially larger ones need to be ridged and have structure to keep everything manageable. The environment that I work in though is Managed IT Services for small business. I make a living by making, and keeping those guys happy. If the owner of a small business wants to use his iPad in meetings I say why not? Matt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: My department's philosophy is that we're not going to jump through hoops to make users' iPads work like a PC. If they need a device that works like a PC, they should use a PC. I know that doesn't help you. It's just a pet peeve of mine and I had to vent. The iPad is really good at some things, and not so good at others. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Carry on. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Hi List! I have a client that would like to use thier iPad in meetings to pull up documents off of their Server 2008 file server. This client would like to be able to do this when local to the network and if possible remotely too. After doing some research it looks like the iPad can VPN to the network easy enough. I have found one app that looks like it might work for browsing file shares. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Is anyone currently doing this and would like to share their experience or combination of apps to make this happen? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
We have 3,000 students in addition to the 500 employees. Does that count? :) From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares 500 employees = mid-sized. :) Large involves commas. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: True-we're a large-ish enterprise (~500 employees, ~2,000 computers), and standardization is a must. Your mileage may vary. :) John From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I understand this point of view in some environments. Some places especially larger ones need to be ridged and have structure to keep everything manageable. The environment that I work in though is Managed IT Services for small business. I make a living by making, and keeping those guys happy. If the owner of a small business wants to use his iPad in meetings I say why not? Matt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: My department's philosophy is that we're not going to jump through hoops to make users' iPads work like a PC. If they need a device that works like a PC, they should use a PC. I know that doesn't help you. It's just a pet peeve of mine and I had to vent. The iPad is really good at some things, and not so good at others. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Carry on. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Hi List! I have a client that would like to use thier iPad in meetings to pull up documents off of their Server 2008 file server. This client would like to be able to do this when local to the network and if possible remotely too. After doing some research it looks like the iPad can VPN to the network easy enough. I have found one app that looks like it might work for browsing file shares. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Is anyone currently doing this and would like to share their experience or combination of apps to make this happen? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I'm more interested in functionality than sexiness. The tablet is a great tool, and growing in usefulness-but I'm not sure it's displacing the PC quite yet (it's still better at viewing content than creating it). Down the road, it almost certainly will. The fact is, we're an Active Directory and Windows shop. We don't let people buy, say, Mac OS machines because of integration concerns. Why would an Android or iOS tablet be any different? When Win8 tablets come out, we'll talk more. :) BTW, I have an iPad. It's fun. I watch movies and play games with it. When I want to get real work done, though, I use my desktop, netbook, or laptop. John From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The tablet is displacing the PC, which itself displaced the mainframe. Clever users will find a way to use the technology available in unexpeted ways. Not saying that you're not providing good service now, I'm just suggesting that the service may need to be changed. Tablets are the new sexy item on the block, and I've had education people talk my ear off about them to no end, since they know I used to support education users. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: True-we're a large-ish enterprise (~500 employees, ~2,000 computers), and standardization is a must. Your mileage may vary. :) John From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I understand this point of view in some environments. Some places especially larger ones need to be ridged and have structure to keep everything manageable. The environment that I work in though is Managed IT Services for small business. I make a living by making, and keeping those guys happy. If the owner of a small business wants to use his iPad in meetings I say why not? Matt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: My department's philosophy is that we're not going to jump through hoops to make users' iPads work like a PC. If they need a device that works like a PC, they should use a PC. I know that doesn't help you. It's just a pet peeve of mine and I had to vent. The iPad is really good at some things, and not so good at others. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Carry on. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Hi List! I have a client that would like to use thier iPad in meetings to pull up documents off of their Server 2008 file server. This client would like to be able to do this when local to the network and if possible remotely too. After doing some research it looks like the iPad can VPN to the network easy enough. I have found one app that looks like it might work for browsing file shares. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Is anyone currently doing this and would like to share their experience or combination of apps to make this happen? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
I'm guessing that Win8 on a tablet will integrate with our AD infrastructure a lot more easily than Android and iOS do. John From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares When Win8 tablets come out, we'll talk more. :) I'll bet you that there'll be enough changes in Win8 that it won't make much difference between the various tablet alternatives for the purpose of this thread. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm more interested in functionality than sexiness. The tablet is a great tool, and growing in usefulness-but I'm not sure it's displacing the PC quite yet (it's still better at viewing content than creating it). Down the road, it almost certainly will. The fact is, we're an Active Directory and Windows shop. We don't let people buy, say, Mac OS machines because of integration concerns. Why would an Android or iOS tablet be any different? When Win8 tablets come out, we'll talk more. :) BTW, I have an iPad. It's fun. I watch movies and play games with it. When I want to get real work done, though, I use my desktop, netbook, or laptop. John From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The tablet is displacing the PC, which itself displaced the mainframe. Clever users will find a way to use the technology available in unexpeted ways. Not saying that you're not providing good service now, I'm just suggesting that the service may need to be changed. Tablets are the new sexy item on the block, and I've had education people talk my ear off about them to no end, since they know I used to support education users. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: True-we're a large-ish enterprise (~500 employees, ~2,000 computers), and standardization is a must. Your mileage may vary. :) John From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I understand this point of view in some environments. Some places especially larger ones need to be ridged and have structure to keep everything manageable. The environment that I work in though is Managed IT Services for small business. I make a living by making, and keeping those guys happy. If the owner of a small business wants to use his iPad in meetings I say why not? Matt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: My department's philosophy is that we're not going to jump through hoops to make users' iPads work like a PC. If they need a device that works like a PC, they should use a PC. I know that doesn't help you. It's just a pet peeve of mine and I had to vent. The iPad is really good at some things, and not so good at others. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Carry on. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.commailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Hi List! I have a client that would like to use thier iPad in meetings to pull up documents off of their Server 2008 file server. This client would like to be able to do this when local to the network and if possible remotely too. After doing some research it looks like the iPad can VPN to the network easy enough. I have found one app that looks like it might work for browsing file shares. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Is anyone currently doing this and would like to share their experience or combination of apps to make this happen? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums