RE: Logmein - down???

[Gene Giannamore]

I was having some issues earlier this morning. Seems to be ok now.

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From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:18 AM
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Subject: Logmein - down???

Or is it only here?

Tx

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RE: Logmein - down???

[David L Herrick]

Thanks all must have just been the bay area?  Seems to be back now

From: Hugo Hernandez [mailto:hhernan...@smarthome.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Logmein - down???

I am logged into a machine as I type this.  I'm in Sothern California.

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Subject: Logmein - down???

Or is it only here?

Tx

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Re: Logmein - down???

[Steve Ens]

My Logmein rescue works...CANADA

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:18 PM, David L Herrick wrote:

>  Or is it only here?
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RE: Logmein - down???

[Hugo Hernandez]

I am logged into a machine as I type this.  I'm in Sothern California.

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:18 AM
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Subject: Logmein - down???

Or is it only here?

Tx

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RE: Logmein - down???

[David Mazzaccaro]

Good here (CT)

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:18 PM
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Subject: Logmein - down???

 

Or is it only here?

 

Tx

 

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RE: Logmein - down???

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/logmein.com

shows that it's up.  At least http://logmein.com

Joe Heaton
ITB - Enterprise Server Support

From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:18 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein - down???

Or is it only here?

Tx

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RE: LogMeIn Central!

[Sam Cayze]

"make shortcuts on the desktop which go right through and connect."
They've actually had this feature for years.  You can even create an RSS
Feed of all the shortcuts for your account.  Handy for a RSS toolbar
Folder in Firefox; I'm just one click and one password away from a
LogMeIn session with anyone in my company.



From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Central!



The new logmein is pretty nice actually. I like that you can make
shortcuts on the desktop which go right through and connect. To combat
any theft you can click on invalidate all shortcuts if anything became
compromised.. im interested to see the hamachi vpn, looks interesting
for certain.

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Central!

 

Has anyone checked out the new LogMeIn Central?  It now has a "wake on
LAN" option. I was looking at my systems this morning and it showed a
"power on" button for one of my systems that was off. Knowing this
system had WOL enabled I tried it and lo and behold, the machine came
up! What's weird is I have two other systems offline (laptops) and it
doesn't show me that option and they don't have WOL anyhow. I wonder if
LogMeIn detects the WOL capability?

 

Anyhow LogMeIn Central is $299/yr and I'm not sure I'll ante up for it,
but that is a cool feature.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: LogMeIn Central!

[Benjamin Zachary - Lists]

The new logmein is pretty nice actually. I like that you can make shortcuts
on the desktop which go right through and connect. To combat any theft you
can click on invalidate all shortcuts if anything became compromised.. im
interested to see the hamachi vpn, looks interesting for certain.

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Central!

 

Has anyone checked out the new LogMeIn Central?  It now has a "wake on LAN"
option. I was looking at my systems this morning and it showed a "power on"
button for one of my systems that was off. Knowing this system had WOL
enabled I tried it and lo and behold, the machine came up! What's weird is I
have two other systems offline (laptops) and it doesn't show me that option
and they don't have WOL anyhow. I wonder if LogMeIn detects the WOL
capability?

 

Anyhow LogMeIn Central is $299/yr and I'm not sure I'll ante up for it, but
that is a cool feature.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

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Re: LogMeIn Central!

[James Kerr]

I use logmein free for my PCs as well as my family and I just noticed I have 
this option as well and it works. Sweet.

James 
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Lum 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:11 AM
  Subject: LogMeIn Central!


  Has anyone checked out the new LogMeIn Central?  It now has a "wake on LAN" 
option. I was looking at my systems this morning and it showed a "power on" 
button for one of my systems that was off. Knowing this system had WOL enabled 
I tried it and lo and behold, the machine came up! What's weird is I have two 
other systems offline (laptops) and it doesn't show me that option and they 
don't have WOL anyhow. I wonder if LogMeIn detects the WOL capability?

   

  Anyhow LogMeIn Central is $299/yr and I'm not sure I'll ante up for it, but 
that is a cool feature.

  David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
  NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
  (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

   




 

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Re: LogMeIn Central!

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I beleive the client-side software can tell if its enabled in the OS.  The
new improvements to LMI are quite nice!

--
ME2


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:11 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  Has anyone checked out the new LogMeIn Central?  It now has a “wake on
> LAN” option. I was looking at my systems this morning and it showed a “power
> on” button for one of my systems that was off. Knowing this system had WOL
> enabled I tried it and lo and behold, the machine came up! What’s weird is I
> have two other systems offline (laptops) and it doesn’t show me that option
> and they don’t have WOL anyhow. I wonder if LogMeIn detects the WOL
> capability?
>
>
>
> Anyhow LogMeIn Central is $299/yr and I’m not sure I’ll ante up for it, but
> that is a cool feature.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: LogMeIn Scout freeware

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Vipre Enterprise will do the same thing.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its pretty neat.  I really like the ability to disable the other forms of
> RA that are installed on systems.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming 
> wrote:
>
>> Just discovered this tool, might be useful to some folks here:
>>
>> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
>>
>> LogMeIn Scout 1.0.4 - Scan your Network for Unauthorized Remote Access
>> Products
>> with LogMeIn Scout.
>>
>>Remote access discovery and management tool that gives system
>>administrators the ability to detect instances of LogMeIn and other
>> remote
>>access software including PC Anywhere, GoToMyPC, and VNC on corporate
>>systems. LogMeIn Scout also allows system administrators to define
>>security and usage policies for LogMeIn (the secure remote access
>> service)
>>and remotely deploy LogMeIn across their network with their security
>>policies enabled.
>>
>> - Included Stuff Ends -
>>
>> I had never heard of this, but apparently it's a legitimate LogMeIn tool:
>>
>> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
>> Another Take On Freemium -- From LogMeIn | bMighty.com: Blogs For Small
>> Business and Mid-Sized Business
>>
>>Taking the irony one step further, Simon cites a free LogMeIn product
>> you
>>won't find on the company Web site. LogMeIn Scout is designed to turn
>> find
>>and turn off LogMeIn instances running in business environments. That
>> may
>>sound counter-intuitive, but it's important to keep IT organizations as
>>our allies," Simon says. "The last thing you want is to be perceived as
>>threat, not a help."
>>
>> - Included Stuff Ends -
>> Seen here with links:
>>http://www.bmighty.com/blog/main/archives/2009/09/another_take_on.html
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Newark, TX, United States

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Re: LogMeIn Scout freeware

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Its pretty neat.  I really like the ability to disable the other forms of RA
that are installed on systems.

--
ME2


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:

> Just discovered this tool, might be useful to some folks here:
>
> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
>
> LogMeIn Scout 1.0.4 - Scan your Network for Unauthorized Remote Access
> Products
> with LogMeIn Scout.
>
>Remote access discovery and management tool that gives system
>administrators the ability to detect instances of LogMeIn and other
> remote
>access software including PC Anywhere, GoToMyPC, and VNC on corporate
>systems. LogMeIn Scout also allows system administrators to define
>security and usage policies for LogMeIn (the secure remote access
> service)
>and remotely deploy LogMeIn across their network with their security
>policies enabled.
>
> - Included Stuff Ends -
>
> I had never heard of this, but apparently it's a legitimate LogMeIn tool:
>
> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
> Another Take On Freemium -- From LogMeIn | bMighty.com: Blogs For Small
> Business and Mid-Sized Business
>
>Taking the irony one step further, Simon cites a free LogMeIn product
> you
>won't find on the company Web site. LogMeIn Scout is designed to turn
> find
>and turn off LogMeIn instances running in business environments. That
> may
>sound counter-intuitive, but it's important to keep IT organizations as
>our allies," Simon says. "The last thing you want is to be perceived as
>threat, not a help."
>
> - Included Stuff Ends -
> Seen here with links:
>http://www.bmighty.com/blog/main/archives/2009/09/another_take_on.html
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

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Re: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Matt Plahtinsky]

Thanks for all the input!!

 I'll be looking into all the great suggestions.

Matt

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Ben Nordlander wrote:

> We use gotoassist express and I know for fact it does what you want in your
> list and more. I think we pay $50-$60 a month.
>
> On Jun 12, 2009 2:32 PM, "wjh"  wrote:
>
>  I'm not sure how cheap you can get them down to, but Bomgar is great.
> They have a B100 appliance that I believe is reasonably priced.  We are
> extremely happy with our Bomgar appliance.
>
> It does everything you want and also supports remote support for win 95
> through the latest windows, Mac OSX, Most versions of Linux, WinMo 5 and 6
> devices (haven't tested this), Blackberries and users even on dialup
> (laggy).
>
> One nice feature is it supports connecting to multiple users.  I can
> connect to three different clients and billing three different clients at
> the same time.
>
> Ours automagically records sessions as flash movies if you want.  Great for
> creating a demo or just simply documenting.  I haven't tried it, but you can
> also use it like gotomeeting and share your screen with many users.
>
> Good stuff.
> *
> Bill
>
> *
>
> AlsoJim Majorowicz wrote: > > I’m not sure GoToAssist in either form allows
> you to reboot into safe ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Ben Nordlander]

We use gotoassist express and I know for fact it does what you want in your
list and more. I think we pay $50-$60 a month.

On Jun 12, 2009 2:32 PM, "wjh"  wrote:

 I'm not sure how cheap you can get them down to, but Bomgar is great.  They
have a B100 appliance that I believe is reasonably priced.  We are extremely
happy with our Bomgar appliance.

It does everything you want and also supports remote support for win 95
through the latest windows, Mac OSX, Most versions of Linux, WinMo 5 and 6
devices (haven't tested this), Blackberries and users even on dialup
(laggy).

One nice feature is it supports connecting to multiple users.  I can connect
to three different clients and billing three different clients at the same
time.

Ours automagically records sessions as flash movies if you want.  Great for
creating a demo or just simply documenting.  I haven't tried it, but you can
also use it like gotomeeting and share your screen with many users.

Good stuff.
*
Bill

*

AlsoJim Majorowicz wrote: > > I’m not sure GoToAssist in either form allows
you to reboot into safe ...

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Re: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[wjh]

I'm not sure how cheap you can get them down to, but Bomgar is great.  
They have a B100 appliance that I believe is reasonably priced.  We are 
extremely happy with our Bomgar appliance.

It does everything you want and also supports remote support for win 95 
through the latest windows, Mac OSX, Most versions of Linux, WinMo 5 and 
6 devices (haven't tested this), Blackberries and users even on dialup 
(laggy).

One nice feature is it supports connecting to multiple users.  I can 
connect to three different clients and billing three different clients 
at the same time.

Ours automagically records sessions as flash movies if you want.  Great 
for creating a demo or just simply documenting.  I haven't tried it, but 
you can also use it like gotomeeting and share your screen with many users.

Good stuff.
*
Bill

*AlsoJim Majorowicz wrote:
> 
>
> I'm not sure GoToAssist in either form allows you to reboot into safe 
> mode.  I know the full version doesn't.  Never tried it in Express.
>
> *From:* Jon B. Lewis [mailto:j...@myriadds.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help
>
> Might try GoToAssist Express.  Works well for us and I THINK it covers 
> your requirements.  Can't say for sure on the safe mode thing though.
>
> *From:* Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:21 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help
>
> I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit 
> cheaper ($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like 
> that LogMeIn Rescue does that most others don't do.
>
> 1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and firewalls.
>
> 2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.
>
> 3.  Works in safe mode.
>
> 4.  Can transfter files between computers.
>
> The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is 
> they don't do the above list.
>
> I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  


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RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Jim Majorowicz]

I am wrong.  GoTo Assist Express *DOES* allow you to reboot in safe mode.

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

I'm not sure GoToAssist in either form allows you to reboot into safe mode.  I
know the full version doesn't.  Never tried it in Express.

 

From: Jon B. Lewis [mailto:j...@myriadds.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

Might try GoToAssist Express.  Works well for us and I THINK it covers your
requirements.  Can't say for sure on the safe mode thing though.

 

From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit cheaper
($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like that LogMeIn
Rescue does that most others don't do.

 

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and firewalls.

2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.

3.  Works in safe mode.

4.  Can transfter files between computers.

 

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is they don't
do the above list. 

 

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Jim Majorowicz]

I'm not sure GoToAssist in either form allows you to reboot into safe mode.  I
know the full version doesn't.  Never tried it in Express.

 

From: Jon B. Lewis [mailto:j...@myriadds.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

Might try GoToAssist Express.  Works well for us and I THINK it covers your
requirements.  Can't say for sure on the safe mode thing though.

 

From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit cheaper
($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like that LogMeIn
Rescue does that most others don't do.

 

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and firewalls.

2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.

3.  Works in safe mode.

4.  Can transfter files between computers.

 

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is they don't
do the above list. 

 

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

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RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Bob Fronk]

This works great and is inexpensive.

http://www.gotoassist.com/en_US/entry.tmpl



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From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit cheaper 
($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like that LogMeIn 
Rescue does that most others don't do.

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and firewalls.
2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.
3.  Works in safe mode.
4.  Can transfter files between computers.

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is they 
don't do the above list.

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

Thanks

Matt





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~   ~

RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Owens, Michael]

again noy sure if it meets all your requirements... showmypc


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

Oh... and TeamViewer is $700 for lifetime use, not per year.



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

TeamViewer is about $700 and works very well.  I'm pretty sure it handles Safe 
Mode reconnects okay.



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit cheaper 
($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like that LogMeIn 
Rescue does that most others don't do.

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and firewalls.
2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.
3.  Works in safe mode.
4.  Can transfter files between computers.

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is they 
don't do the above list.

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

Thanks

Matt














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RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Roger Wright]

Oh... and TeamViewer is $700 for lifetime use, not per year.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

TeamViewer is about $700 and works very well.  I'm pretty sure it
handles Safe Mode reconnects okay.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit
cheaper ($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like
that LogMeIn Rescue does that most others don't do.

 

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and
firewalls.

2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.

3.  Works in safe mode.

4.  Can transfter files between computers.

 

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is
they don't do the above list. 

 

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Jon B. Lewis]

Might try GoToAssist Express.  Works well for us and I THINK it covers
your requirements.  Can't say for sure on the safe mode thing though.

 

From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit
cheaper ($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like
that LogMeIn Rescue does that most others don't do.

 

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and
firewalls.

2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.

3.  Works in safe mode.

4.  Can transfter files between computers.

 

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is
they don't do the above list. 

 

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

[Roger Wright]

TeamViewer is about $700 and works very well.  I'm pretty sure it
handles Safe Mode reconnects okay.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn Rescue Alternative help

 

I have been looking for a product like LogMeIn Rescue that's a bit
cheaper ($1200.00 a year).  There are a few things that I really like
that LogMeIn Rescue does that most others don't do.

 

1.  Works on port 443 so it will work through most proxy's and
firewalls.

2.  Can automatically reconnect the session after a reboot.

3.  Works in safe mode.

4.  Can transfter files between computers.

 

The problem I have run into with most of the other tools out there is
they don't do the above list. 

 

I'm willing to dish out some money but not $1200.00 a year for just me.

 

Thanks

 

Matt

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Eric E Eskam]

 "David James"  wrote on 12/30/2008 10:57:20 AM:
 
 > I'm just saying, you inherently
 > trust a lot of companies, and to say one service that is used like
 > Blackberry in a high percentage of businesses, then 'flush' 
 > other services

BTW - speaking of Christopher Hoff in virtualization context, a really 
good post on "cloud" security:

http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/12/alistair-croll-on-cloud-security-the-sky-is-falling-and-apparently-logicfacts-are-too.html

Eric Eskam
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any 
position of the U.S. Government
"The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange 
protein; it rejects it."
-  P. B. Medawar

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~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Eric E Eskam]

"David James"  wrote on 12/30/2008 10:57:20 AM:

> I'm just saying, you inherently
> trust a lot of companies, and to say one service that is used like
> Blackberry in a high percentage of businesses, then 'flush' 
> other services

Oh man, you don't have "that user" that thinks you should move to google 
docs?

Long live the cloud :)

Eric Eskam
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any 
position of the U.S. Government
"The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange 
protein; it rejects it."
-  P. B. Medawar

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[NTSysAdmin]

I have a client, A large firm of lawyers. They use PC's & servers for their 
legal work & document printing. No connection to the internet at all for that 
network. Updates are by DVD & remote deployment.

They have MAC's for email & internet. Email hosted off site.

S

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

Thoroughly agree.

Hell, I'm fighting a battle now to keep personal machines from
connecting via VPN.

My mantra: "If the hardware isn't owned and controlled by the company,
I don't want it on the company network."

I'm beginning to wonder if all companies should maintain two
physically separate networks and provide their employees with two
computers - one that connects to the world, and one that is for core
applications *only*.

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a
>> few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems ...
>
>  You're letting an outside organization have control of one of your
> computers.  You're okay with that?  Cool, can I have control of one of
> your computers, too?  I promise I won't do anything bad.  Pinky swear!
>
>  Sure, all these remote-control companies claim to have great
> security.  *Everybody* claims that.  And yet, major security problems
> keep on happening, all over the place, all the time.  From this, we
> can conclude that claims of great security mean precisely nothing.
>
>  "Security problems" don't have to mean them taking over the world.
> It doesn't have to mean organization-wide intent.  It could be one
> employee with a grudge.  Or maybe an undetected remote compromise on a
> server in their datacenter -- these are high-profile targets, and
> custom malware would be undetectable by signature-based virus
> scanners.  Or maybe they cut back on security spending when the
> economy tanked.  It might not be something you could detect -- passive
> monitoring would be invisible.  It might not even be something with
> specific intent -- maybe random malware makes it into their systems,
> and then propagates over the remote-control system to you.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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Re: LogMeIn

[Jon Harris]

You let your users install software?  That is asking for more problems than
you will ever fix.

Jon

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage
> a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they
> can remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN
> license?
>
>
>
> I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients,
> but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to
> recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.
>
>
>
> My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
> excuse for that opinion.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Kurt Buff]

I would agree with that.

If the President of the US can't have one, I don't want anyone in my
company to have one.

I'll leave my reasons why to be worked out as an exercise for the reader.

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:33 AM, David James  wrote:
> So Blackberries and any other service shouldn't be used either.  That's a
> 3rd party who can view all your email.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:27 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: LogMeIn
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James  wrote:
>> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
>> having a power trip.
>
>  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless
> you're a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all
> security should be banished.  Of course, security failures show up --
> as losses, when it's too late.
>
>  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
> *assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Kurt Buff]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:16 AM, David James  wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
> having a power trip.  The company must survive tight economic times, so use
> all your tools to provide them ways to produce from anywhere at anytime, and
> you'll be a hero to your users and company management.

As computer professionals, our ethics should be similar to other professions.

Here's one statement that I think should be kept in mind, from another
profession:

"First, do no harm."

Logmein and other 3rd party remote access products, IMNSHO, are the
rough equivalent of sending a 3 year old to play in the auto wrecking
yard.

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Kurt Buff]

Thoroughly agree.

Hell, I'm fighting a battle now to keep personal machines from
connecting via VPN.

My mantra: "If the hardware isn't owned and controlled by the company,
I don't want it on the company network."

I'm beginning to wonder if all companies should maintain two
physically separate networks and provide their employees with two
computers - one that connects to the world, and one that is for core
applications *only*.

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a
>> few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems ...
>
>  You're letting an outside organization have control of one of your
> computers.  You're okay with that?  Cool, can I have control of one of
> your computers, too?  I promise I won't do anything bad.  Pinky swear!
>
>  Sure, all these remote-control companies claim to have great
> security.  *Everybody* claims that.  And yet, major security problems
> keep on happening, all over the place, all the time.  From this, we
> can conclude that claims of great security mean precisely nothing.
>
>  "Security problems" don't have to mean them taking over the world.
> It doesn't have to mean organization-wide intent.  It could be one
> employee with a grudge.  Or maybe an undetected remote compromise on a
> server in their datacenter -- these are high-profile targets, and
> custom malware would be undetectable by signature-based virus
> scanners.  Or maybe they cut back on security spending when the
> economy tanked.  It might not be something you could detect -- passive
> monitoring would be invisible.  It might not even be something with
> specific intent -- maybe random malware makes it into their systems,
> and then propagates over the remote-control system to you.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Ziots, Edward]

Agreed +1..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, David James 
wrote:
> They wouldn't be in business if they hacked their customers networks.

  I believe I provided some arguments as to why that's a logical
fallacy.

  Again, you're not actually doing any analysis.  If you presented
some kind of evaluation, it would be one thing.  Example: Small art
design firm; seven employees; no HIPAA/PCI/etc.; low profile
organization; no radical trade secrets; alternative solutions would
cost $%LARGE%; alternatives exceed the value of assets.  That's valid
risk management.  (I might quibble with the alternative solutions
cost, but that's a lot more subjective.)  But you're just hoping
things will be okay.

  Wanting something doesn't make it real (unless you're an xkcd fan).

  I'm sure it pisses you off to no end that I keep calling you on your
flimsy logic.  Sorry.  I don't mean to anger you, but security is
about facing harsh realities.  I've found most people would rather be
happily unaware than unhappily informed.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David James]

It doesn't piss me off.  I made my points earlier, stating that I use SSL
VPN appliances/RDP for regulated access.  
I also said it's situation based, and products like this can be utilized
properly for the SMB.  That's all I'm saying. 

Have a great day!



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, David James  wrote:
> They wouldn't be in business if they hacked their customers networks.

  I believe I provided some arguments as to why that's a logical fallacy.

  Again, you're not actually doing any analysis.  If you presented
some kind of evaluation, it would be one thing.  Example: Small art
design firm; seven employees; no HIPAA/PCI/etc.; low profile
organization; no radical trade secrets; alternative solutions would
cost $%LARGE%; alternatives exceed the value of assets.  That's valid
risk management.  (I might quibble with the alternative solutions
cost, but that's a lot more subjective.)  But you're just hoping
things will be okay.

  Wanting something doesn't make it real (unless you're an xkcd fan).

  I'm sure it pisses you off to no end that I keep calling you on your
flimsy logic.  Sorry.  I don't mean to anger you, but security is
about facing harsh realities.  I've found most people would rather be
happily unaware than unhappily informed.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, David James  wrote:
> They wouldn't be in business if they hacked their customers networks.

  I believe I provided some arguments as to why that's a logical fallacy.

  Again, you're not actually doing any analysis.  If you presented
some kind of evaluation, it would be one thing.  Example: Small art
design firm; seven employees; no HIPAA/PCI/etc.; low profile
organization; no radical trade secrets; alternative solutions would
cost $%LARGE%; alternatives exceed the value of assets.  That's valid
risk management.  (I might quibble with the alternative solutions
cost, but that's a lot more subjective.)  But you're just hoping
things will be okay.

  Wanting something doesn't make it real (unless you're an xkcd fan).

  I'm sure it pisses you off to no end that I keep calling you on your
flimsy logic.  Sorry.  I don't mean to anger you, but security is
about facing harsh realities.  I've found most people would rather be
happily unaware than unhappily informed.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David James]

It's encrypted to blackberry, but they can still pry if they want, which is
what people's point against logmein is.  I'm just saying, you inherently
trust a lot of companies, and to say one service that is used like
Blackberry in a high percentage of businesses, then 'flush' other services
which may help your users be productive seems silly to me.  But I digress.
I just want the point made that LogMeIn does have its place if it's
implemented properly.  They wouldn't be in business if they hacked their
customers networks.

DPJ

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM, David James  wrote:
> So Blackberries and any other service shouldn't be used either.  That's a
> 3rd party who can view all your email.

  Regarding BlackBerries: Email is already public.  Anyone who thinks
general Internet email is secure is just plain wrong.  We educate our
users that email is not secure.  They all want it to be, of course,
but it's a case of wanting what can't be had.  (Good crypto will
address this, of course, but that's a customer-interaction issue that
needs to be sorted out on a case-by-case basis, and most people don't
actually want to pay for security, they want free lip-service.  We
give them all the free lip-service they want.)

  Regarding "other services": Depends on the situation, as evidenced
by the email example above.  But generally, no, we're not overly
trusting, because the world's filled with dangerous, scary people, and
the Internet brings them all to your doorstep.  Life's hard; get a
helmet.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Ziots, Edward]

It definitely is a risk, and a lot of companies are taking it. Why not
have Blackberry sign a BAA with you before you sign up for there service
to CYA.. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:bigdadd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

So Blackberries and any other service shouldn't be used either.  That's
a
3rd party who can view all your email.  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James 
wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive,
not
> having a power trip.

  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless
you're a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all
security should be banished.  Of course, security failures show up --
as losses, when it's too late.

  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
*assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Ziots, Edward]

Productive, but at what cost to the business? It only takes one security
incident, to cost you more than the productivity of a years worth of
work. Heck some of the penalities are in the 250K+ range at the most
severe for HIPPA and I am sure its higher in the other regulations (
PCI, GLB, SarbOx)

Its not about a power trip either, its about following process, using
good risk management techniques and being able to prove that people are
accessing only what you gave them access to and no more. ( due
diligence, Least Privilege rules) 

Actually security could show up in making sure the profits you are
earning by doing your work as shown. Just imagine the laptop that the
C-Level is using that wasn't Lo-Jacked and you didn't think about adding
full hard drive encryption, but those juicy insider details are being
pushed to your competition, because he/she/it had its laptop stolen and
didn't encrypt the information that was confident/sensitive in nature.
Now it's the hands of the people that shouldn't have had it in the first
place. That is just one of a lot of ways you can show how working
securely and following security protocol helps you stay profitable and
avoid these types of situations that when you look at the bottom line
cost the organization/business more money per-incident than they might
make in a month or even year. 

Food for thought,
Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James 
wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive,
not
> having a power trip.

  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless
you're a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all
security should be banished.  Of course, security failures show up --
as losses, when it's too late.

  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
*assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Graeme Carstairs  wrote:
> Large corporates and compliance is all good if you can do that but for
> sme it's difficult to get budget for anything.

  Smaller organizations have less to lose.  As always, it's risk
management, cost/benefit.  If the cost of counter-measures exceeds the
sum total value of the organization, then it's actually worth it to
just roll the dice and take the risk, since the business just isn't
worth that much.

  Of course, nobody ever likes to be told their livelihood is of
lesser value.  One reason few people like security analysis is that
it's largely about facing unpleasant truths.

  Sheesh, I sound like a political advertisement.  "Vote for me, or
the hackers will get you!"

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[John Cook]

BB's are managed by the company (at least mine are) and can be locked down (to 
some extent - you can't solve stupid!) AND remotely wiped. Our users have to 
sign a security form before they get their hands on one and all of our devices 
are company owned.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: David James [mailto:bigdadd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

So Blackberries and any other service shouldn't be used either.  That's a
3rd party who can view all your email.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James  wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
> having a power trip.

  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless
you're a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all
security should be banished.  Of course, security failures show up --
as losses, when it's too late.

  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
*assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


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Re: LogMeIn

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM, David James  wrote:
> So Blackberries and any other service shouldn't be used either.  That's a
> 3rd party who can view all your email.

  Regarding BlackBerries: Email is already public.  Anyone who thinks
general Internet email is secure is just plain wrong.  We educate our
users that email is not secure.  They all want it to be, of course,
but it's a case of wanting what can't be had.  (Good crypto will
address this, of course, but that's a customer-interaction issue that
needs to be sorted out on a case-by-case basis, and most people don't
actually want to pay for security, they want free lip-service.  We
give them all the free lip-service they want.)

  Regarding "other services": Depends on the situation, as evidenced
by the email example above.  But generally, no, we're not overly
trusting, because the world's filled with dangerous, scary people, and
the Internet brings them all to your doorstep.  Life's hard; get a
helmet.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Graeme Carstairs]

I'm with you logmein rescue rocks we use it to support our customers
and our remote sites. We support many users on many remote networks.
Mainly in sme space.

Large corporates and compliance is all good if you can do that but for
sme it's difficult to get budget for anything.

But everyones advice is good. I wouldn't want logmein installed on work pc's.

Gotomypc is advertised constantly on UK radio to access your work of
from home, using the dragons from dragons den.
But doesn't mention securit or company policy.

Graeme

On 30/12/2008, David James  wrote:
> LogMeInRescue FTW for supporting remote users.
>
> Sonicwall SSL VPN Products for remote access.  Using the Java or ActiveX RDP
> agents provide a more productive user experience than logmein free.
>
> In logmein free's defense as a security measure...  I had a customer who
> used logmein on their systems, it was a small business.  Someone stole a
> computer, and since LogMeIn auto connects from anywhere on the net, they
> were able to track the system down.  Kind of a free lowjack utility.
>
> Before I worked for myself, I would have argued that software like this was
> not useful, but it has it's place in the SMB.  The corporate compliance set
> forbids it, but I have found that the ultimate question is how productive
> your users are, and how secure are their passwords.  LogMeIn is just another
> door to the building, another key to keep track of, so depending on the
> business type/model, and it's obligations for compliance, it may or may not
> have its place.  I know lots of network admins who keep it on their servers
> but yell at every user that wants to use it.  Sometimes productivity demands
> it.  If you've got a user who needs to print at home to a Multifunction
> device to be more productive, sometimes logmein pro is the best solution,
> since RDP doesn't support certain printers.  In these rare cases, a simple
> signed policy will suffice to cover your ___.
>
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
> having a power trip.  The company must survive tight economic times, so use
> all your tools to provide them ways to produce from anywhere at anytime, and
> you'll be a hero to your users and company management.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: LogMeIn
>
> You wouldn't allow any support via logmein rescue or webec etc.
> Do the install through web use and then no further access type solutions?
>
> May I ask how large your organisation is?
>
> Graeme
>
> On 30/12/2008, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
>> And make that apart of the acceptable use policy or another network
>> policy that includes the terms, "violation of this policy, can subject
>> the violator(s) to punishment up to and including termination of
>> employment"
>>
>>
>>
>> The fire them, that will send the message. Logmein is not to be trusted
>> and any business seeking to do business with you that uses that as a
>> Remote access sytem for support should be shown the door as quickly as
>> they came in. ( Had to deal with one here, and they went bye bye)
>>
>>
>>
>> Z
>>
>>
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>>
>> Network Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
>>
>> Phone: 401-639-3505
>>
>> MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: LogMeIn
>>
>>
>>
>> On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved
>> software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the network
>> up to potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come
>> into play as well) Just say no!
>>
>>
>>
>> John W. Cook
>>
>> Systems Administrator
>>
>> Partnership For Strong Families
>>
>> 315 SE 2nd Ave
>>
>> Gainesville, Fl 32601
>>
>> Office (352) 393-2741 x320
>>
>> Cell (352) 215-6944
>>
>> Fax (352) 393-2746
>>
>> MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: LogMeIn
>>
>>
>>
>> I work for a company with ~300 e

Re: LogMeIn

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
>> "You're letting an outside organization have control of one of your
>> computers.  You're okay with that? "
>
> Ever read the Microsoft EULA, especially regarding the Service Packs and
> automatic update ???

  Indeed.

  Heck, I'm not really overly comfortable with Microsoft, either.
Their track record on business ethics and practices isn't exactly a
glowing recommendation.  And they're huge; big enough for a rogue
element to go undetected for years.  There are some key differences,
though:

A1. Various organizations audit at least some of the Windows source.
A2. Various organizations audit at least some of the Windows machine
code (binaries/executables).
A3. There are *lots* of A1 and A2.  Windows is under a tremendous
amount of scrutiny.
A4. Windows doesn't have the ability to bypass our firewall or other
non-Microsoft security measures.  We have defense-in-depth, both in
terms of technology and vendors.
A5. Windows runs on systems under our control.

  The remote-control services violate all of the above.  In
particular, major parts of all remote-control services run through
servers and software *nobody else can see*.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Erik Goldoff]

Well stated ... I've always had to battle for budget for ANYTHING that
doesn't directly participate in generating revenue  



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James  wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, 
> not having a power trip.

  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless you're
a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all security should be
banished.  Of course, security failures show up -- as losses, when it's too
late.

  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
*assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David James]

So Blackberries and any other service shouldn't be used either.  That's a
3rd party who can view all your email.  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James  wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
> having a power trip.

  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless
you're a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all
security should be banished.  Of course, security failures show up --
as losses, when it's too late.

  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
*assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David James  wrote:
> It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
> having a power trip.

  The problem is that security *never* shows up as a profit.  (Unless
you're a security firm, heh.)  So if we follow that logic, all
security should be banished.  Of course, security failures show up --
as losses, when it's too late.

  The thing that really gets me about this is that people simply
*assume* LogMeIn, GoToMyPC, etc., are trustworthy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David Lum]

We're not even CLOSE to being that buttoned down, all our users here are local 
administrators, we allow more than one browser on the desktop, etc. I know I 
KNOW! :) I'm making progress, but the inertia of 200+ users and the (lack of) 
policies before I got here are not insignificant.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

And make that apart of the acceptable use policy or another network policy that 
includes the terms, "violation of this policy, can subject the violator(s) to 
punishment up to and including termination of employment"

The fire them, that will send the message. Logmein is not to be trusted and any 
business seeking to do business with you that uses that as a Remote access 
sytem for support should be shown the door as quickly as they came in. ( Had to 
deal with one here, and they went bye bye)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved 
software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the network up to 
potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come into play as 
well) Just say no!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it's 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









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RE: LogMeIn

[David James]

The logging in LogMein can be set up to go to syslog, and all sessions can
be recorded to an .avi file, or just the plain ol loggin is great.

To prevent access from a punted employee you just remove it.

-Original Message-
From: S Conn. [mailto:sysadminli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

Perhaps I missed this point in the replies, but what about user
separation?  I'm not keen on giving any user access that I can't
revoke the moment they get fired.  Also, access logs go a long way
when you're having HR issues..

Seth



On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage
a
> few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they
> can remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN
> license?
>
>
>
> I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients,
> but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to
> recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.
>
>
>
> My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
> excuse for that opinion.
>
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: LogMeIn

[S Conn.]

Perhaps I missed this point in the replies, but what about user
separation?  I'm not keen on giving any user access that I can't
revoke the moment they get fired.  Also, access logs go a long way
when you're having HR issues..

Seth



On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a
> few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they
> can remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN
> license?
>
>
>
> I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients,
> but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to
> recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.
>
>
>
> My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
> excuse for that opinion.
>
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David James]

LogMeInRescue FTW for supporting remote users.

Sonicwall SSL VPN Products for remote access.  Using the Java or ActiveX RDP
agents provide a more productive user experience than logmein free.

In logmein free's defense as a security measure...  I had a customer who
used logmein on their systems, it was a small business.  Someone stole a
computer, and since LogMeIn auto connects from anywhere on the net, they
were able to track the system down.  Kind of a free lowjack utility.  

Before I worked for myself, I would have argued that software like this was
not useful, but it has it's place in the SMB.  The corporate compliance set
forbids it, but I have found that the ultimate question is how productive
your users are, and how secure are their passwords.  LogMeIn is just another
door to the building, another key to keep track of, so depending on the
business type/model, and it's obligations for compliance, it may or may not
have its place.  I know lots of network admins who keep it on their servers
but yell at every user that wants to use it.  Sometimes productivity demands
it.  If you've got a user who needs to print at home to a Multifunction
device to be more productive, sometimes logmein pro is the best solution,
since RDP doesn't support certain printers.  In these rare cases, a simple
signed policy will suffice to cover your ___.  

It's about helping your users use technology to be more productive, not
having a power trip.  The company must survive tight economic times, so use
all your tools to provide them ways to produce from anywhere at anytime, and
you'll be a hero to your users and company management.





-Original Message-
From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

You wouldn't allow any support via logmein rescue or webec etc.
Do the install through web use and then no further access type solutions?

May I ask how large your organisation is?

Graeme

On 30/12/2008, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
> And make that apart of the acceptable use policy or another network
> policy that includes the terms, "violation of this policy, can subject
> the violator(s) to punishment up to and including termination of
> employment"
>
>
>
> The fire them, that will send the message. Logmein is not to be trusted
> and any business seeking to do business with you that uses that as a
> Remote access sytem for support should be shown the door as quickly as
> they came in. ( Had to deal with one here, and they went bye bye)
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ________
>
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: LogMeIn
>
>
>
> On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved
> software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the network
> up to potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come
> into play as well) Just say no!
>
>
>
> John W. Cook
>
> Systems Administrator
>
> Partnership For Strong Families
>
> 315 SE 2nd Ave
>
> Gainesville, Fl 32601
>
> Office (352) 393-2741 x320
>
> Cell (352) 215-6944
>
> Fax (352) 393-2746
>
> MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
>
>
>
> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: LogMeIn
>
>
>
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
> discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
> systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
> need to use a VPN license?
>
>
>
> I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
> clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
> another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
> VPN, etc.
>
>
>
> My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
> excuse for that opinion.
>
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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> attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or
> entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health
> Information (PHI), confidential and/or pri

RE: LogMeIn

[Chinnery, Paul]

But that can be a nightmare.  How can you prove your business partner
meets compliance testing?  Run your own pentest?  And what if that
company has a relationship with another company that supports them?
HIPAA answers that with the Chain of Trust guidelines.  I'm not sure
about PCI or Redflag rules, though.  
But for all of them, I would assume the "reasonable man" defense would
apply if questioned by a government agency.
 

Paul Chinnery 
Network Administrator 
Memorial Medical Center 
231-845-2319 

 

  _  

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn


and as in the case of PCI and other compliance certifications, you might
have to prove that any 'connected' partner also passes compliance
testing
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn



Exactly. I would add to that list

 

 

* Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working
correctly?

 

* What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It
would be very interesting to see their recommendation.)

 

* Does the company actually have a paid and supported version?
That is usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use
only-not business/organizational use.

 

 

  _  

From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic
even) any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic
passing through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that
computer in ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to
your internal network.  Companies bigger than them get
usernames/passwords stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge)
than if you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your
clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so
creds aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some
sort of two factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the
first username/password prompt.

 

 

 

 


 

 


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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Erik Goldoff]

does the business software alliance really deserve capitalization ? 
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn



Big stinkin' A-hole?

 

Shook

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

BSA?

 

From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

Exactly. I would add to that list

 

 

. Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working
correctly?

 

. What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It would
be very interesting to see their recommendation.)

 

. Does the company actually have a paid and supported version? That
is usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use only-not
business/organizational use.

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Erik Goldoff]

and as in the case of PCI and other compliance certifications, you might
have to prove that any 'connected' partner also passes compliance testing
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn



Exactly. I would add to that list

 

 

* Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working
correctly?

 

* What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It would
be very interesting to see their recommendation.)

 

* Does the company actually have a paid and supported version? That
is usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use only-not
business/organizational use.

 

 

  _  

From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic
even) any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic
passing through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that computer
in ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to
your internal network.  Companies bigger than them get usernames/passwords
stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge) than
if you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so creds
aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some sort of two
factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the first
username/password prompt.

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Ziots, Edward]

Yep, 

We have our own secure support access solution, and for security reasons
I can't tell you what it is or how it works. ( lets just say 256BIT AES
FIPS 140-2 compliant, enuff said) 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

-Original Message-
From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

You wouldn't allow any support via logmein rescue or webec etc.
Do the install through web use and then no further access type
solutions?

May I ask how large your organisation is?

Graeme

On 30/12/2008, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
> And make that apart of the acceptable use policy or another network
> policy that includes the terms, "violation of this policy, can subject
> the violator(s) to punishment up to and including termination of
> employment"
>
>
>
> The fire them, that will send the message. Logmein is not to be
trusted
> and any business seeking to do business with you that uses that as a
> Remote access sytem for support should be shown the door as quickly as
> they came in. ( Had to deal with one here, and they went bye bye)
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> 
>
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: LogMeIn
>
>
>
> On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved
> software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the
network
> up to potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come
> into play as well) Just say no!
>
>
>
> John W. Cook
>
> Systems Administrator
>
> Partnership For Strong Families
>
> 315 SE 2nd Ave
>
> Gainesville, Fl 32601
>
> Office (352) 393-2741 x320
>
> Cell (352) 215-6944
>
> Fax (352) 393-2746
>
> MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
>
>
>
> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: LogMeIn
>
>
>
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
> discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on
their
> systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
> need to use a VPN license?
>
>
>
> I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
> clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
> another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
> VPN, etc.
>
>
>
> My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a
viable
> excuse for that opinion.
>
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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or
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RE: LogMeIn

[Ziots, Edward]

Folks,

 

Its more about security of your systems and controlling whom has access
with what, with Logmein you basically are giving up that control to an
unknown, untrusted 3rd party, that you can't audit, you don't have a BAA
( business associate agreement, or MOU ( memorandum of understanding (
only applies to Govt entities)) which are violations of HIPPA. 

 

The sections are the following.  NOTE: I am not a Lawyer, none of this
constitutes LEGAL ADVICE, and I can't be held responsible for you
following any of this advice and causing harm to your organization, you
should talk with your Lawyers/Management C levels before doing any of
this. I am just interpreting the HIPPA regulations as per what they
state in the final rule. 

 

Transmissions Security: Section 164.312(e)(1) ( encrypted communications
or viewing of EPHI on carious systems access by Logmein)

Person or Entity Authentication: Section 164.312(d)(8) (Failure to
accurate authenticate who is accessing your EPHI, you don't control the
logmein authentication mechanism, you can't audit it, and you can't tie
it back into a person or process that you can verifiably claim did or
didn't access the EPHI in question)

 

Integrity: Section 164.312 ( c ) (1): If you can audit who has access to
your data, then you don't know if its been manipulated or changed from
its current state and if its valid or not anymore, thus violation the
Integrity of the data. 

 

Audit Controls: Section 164.312(b): Again u can't audit who did and
didn't login via Logmein, or tie that back to a person, or entity that
will state up in a court of law if you take it that far ( Forensically
sound logs of the information access and manipulation etc etc)

 

Access Controls: Section 164.312(a)(1): Again you are allowing a 3rd
party without a BAA, or MOU access to your systems via an untrusted
mechanism that you can't secure or control, access into your information
systems? I think we all see the blaring problem is this reguard, you are
opening yourself up to all kinds of bad things. 

 

Security Management Process: Section 164.308(a)(1): You probably haven't
completed a Risk Assessment for this new technology that would have
easily outlined the inheirent harm that Logmein and similar Remote
Access Solutions can cause with the Confidentially, Integrity and
Availability of your systems and data. 

 

Security Incident Proceedures:  Section 164.308(a)(6):  Think about your
incident response plan if or probably when one or more of your systems
become hacked by a malicious 3rd party that has found a flaw or bug in
the logmein process and starts access or stealing your data, corrupting
your systems, rootkits, malware, Trojans, backdoors, etc etc,
Information blackmail, or general denial service from within your
network. What are you going to do then, You let it in the door, you
agreed to have your systems access via an insecure mechanism, I don't
think you are going to win many court battles trying to argue that you
did due diligence or due care process in those reguards. So you might as
well write that big fat check and notify the people that there PHI is
history and in some hackers hands floating around in 3rd world countries
or other nerfarious places of the earth, and that there lives are going
to be affected adversely and probably there identity is going to be
stolen, or attempt to be stolen via information leaks and lack of
judgement. 

 

If that doesn't wake up some C levels eyes and have the lawyers
stirring, and management putting the Kabosh on Logmein and similar
Remote access solutions, then not quiet sure what will. 

 

PS: If you want the breakdown of the sections of HIPPA I have and excel
spreadsheet that covers each section and the types of questions you all
need to be asking yourselves when you deal with these type of issues. 

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

Lots of reasons.  Security & compliancy (HIPAA) come to mind.

With a VPN, you know (and have control) who is on the network.

 

 



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with res

RE: LogMeIn

[Dallas Burnworth]

Business Software Alliance www.bsa.org <http://www.bsa.org/>  these guys
are the #1 software compliance and anti-piracy organization world-wide.
They can come in and audit any organization for proper software use and
licensing. They currently use Centennial Discovery software for their
audits. They are out there to protect the rights of software companies
like Microsoft get all the money from people who use their stuff.

 

 



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

BSA?

 

From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

Exactly. I would add to that list

 

 

* Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working
correctly?

 

* What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It
would be very interesting to see their recommendation.)

 

* Does the company actually have a paid and supported version?
That is usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use
only-not business/organizational use.

 

 



From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic
even) any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic
passing through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that
computer in ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to
your internal network.  Companies bigger than them get
usernames/passwords stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge)
than if you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your
clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so
creds aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some
sort of two factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the
first username/password prompt.

 

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal
use only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

 

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
VPN, etc.

 

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
excuse for that opinion.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

 



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and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this
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RE: LogMeIn

[Andy Shook]

Big stinkin' A-hole?

Shook

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

BSA?

From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

Exactly. I would add to that list


* Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working 
correctly?

* What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It would be 
very interesting to see their recommendation.)

* Does the company actually have a paid and supported version? That is 
usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use only-not 
business/organizational use.



From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn


* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic even) 
any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic passing 
through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that computer in 
ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to your 
internal network.  Companies bigger than them get usernames/passwords stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge) than if 
you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access 
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so creds 
aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some sort of two 
factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the first 
username/password prompt.





From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal use 
only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it's 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









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RE: LogMeIn

[David Lum]

BSA?

From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

Exactly. I would add to that list


* Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working 
correctly?

* What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It would be 
very interesting to see their recommendation.)

* Does the company actually have a paid and supported version? That is 
usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use only-not 
business/organizational use.



From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn


* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic even) 
any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic passing 
through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that computer in 
ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to your 
internal network.  Companies bigger than them get usernames/passwords stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge) than if 
you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access 
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so creds 
aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some sort of two 
factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the first 
username/password prompt.





From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal use 
only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it's 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









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(HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or 
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Re: LogMeIn

[Graeme Carstairs]

You wouldn't allow any support via logmein rescue or webec etc.
Do the install through web use and then no further access type solutions?

May I ask how large your organisation is?

Graeme

On 30/12/2008, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
> And make that apart of the acceptable use policy or another network
> policy that includes the terms, "violation of this policy, can subject
> the violator(s) to punishment up to and including termination of
> employment"
>
>
>
> The fire them, that will send the message. Logmein is not to be trusted
> and any business seeking to do business with you that uses that as a
> Remote access sytem for support should be shown the door as quickly as
> they came in. ( Had to deal with one here, and they went bye bye)
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> 
>
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: LogMeIn
>
>
>
> On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved
> software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the network
> up to potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come
> into play as well) Just say no!
>
>
>
> John W. Cook
>
> Systems Administrator
>
> Partnership For Strong Families
>
> 315 SE 2nd Ave
>
> Gainesville, Fl 32601
>
> Office (352) 393-2741 x320
>
> Cell (352) 215-6944
>
> Fax (352) 393-2746
>
> MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
>
>
>
> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: LogMeIn
>
>
>
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
> discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
> systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
> need to use a VPN license?
>
>
>
> I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
> clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
> another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
> VPN, etc.
>
>
>
> My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
> excuse for that opinion.
>
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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RE: LogMeIn

[Dallas Burnworth]

Exactly. I would add to that list

 

 

* Free to use, but how much does it cost you if it stops working
correctly?

 

* What will your auditors or the BSA think of the setup? (It
would be very interesting to see their recommendation.)

 

* Does the company actually have a paid and supported version?
That is usually an indicator that the "free" version is for personal use
only-not business/organizational use.

 

 



From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic
even) any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic
passing through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that
computer in ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to
your internal network.  Companies bigger than them get
usernames/passwords stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge)
than if you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your
clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so
creds aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some
sort of two factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the
first username/password prompt.

 

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal
use only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

 

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
VPN, etc.

 

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
excuse for that opinion.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

 



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intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are
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Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal
and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this
information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties.
Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you
really need to.

 

 


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RE: LogMeIn

[Ziots, Edward]

And make that apart of the acceptable use policy or another network
policy that includes the terms, "violation of this policy, can subject
the violator(s) to punishment up to and including termination of
employment"

 

The fire them, that will send the message. Logmein is not to be trusted
and any business seeking to do business with you that uses that as a
Remote access sytem for support should be shown the door as quickly as
they came in. ( Had to deal with one here, and they went bye bye)

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved
software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the network
up to potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come
into play as well) Just say no!

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

 

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
VPN, etc.

 

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
excuse for that opinion.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review,
transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in
reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the
intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are
prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance
Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal
and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this
information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties.
Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you
really need to.

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Erik Goldoff]

 

"You're letting an outside organization have control of one of your
computers.  You're okay with that? "

Ever read the Microsoft EULA, especially regarding the Service Packs and
automatic update ???  In the early days it was a huge thorn in HIPPA
compliance efforts ...  Let alone how the 'trusted certificates' list is
vetted and populated 




Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: LogMeIn

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to 
> discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems ...

  You're letting an outside organization have control of one of your
computers.  You're okay with that?  Cool, can I have control of one of your
computers, too?  I promise I won't do anything bad.  Pinky swear!

  Sure, all these remote-control companies claim to have great security.
*Everybody* claims that.  And yet, major security problems keep on
happening, all over the place, all the time.  From this, we can conclude
that claims of great security mean precisely nothing.

  "Security problems" don't have to mean them taking over the world.
It doesn't have to mean organization-wide intent.  It could be one employee
with a grudge.  Or maybe an undetected remote compromise on a server in
their datacenter -- these are high-profile targets, and custom malware would
be undetectable by signature-based virus scanners.  Or maybe they cut back
on security spending when the economy tanked.  It might not be something you
could detect -- passive monitoring would be invisible.  It might not even be
something with specific intent -- maybe random malware makes it into their
systems, and then propagates over the remote-control system to you.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David Lum]

Awesome awesome awesome, I love this list! Thanks everyone!

Now I can feel good about saying no and be loaded with many valid reasons, 
other than “it just doesn’t seem very smart and it add another application to 
manage”.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Derek Lidbom [mailto:dlid...@trone.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn


· What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic even) 
any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic passing 
through your gateway?

· It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that computer in 
ways they couldn’t have before).

· You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to your 
internal network.  Companies bigger than them get usernames/passwords stolen.

· You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge) than if 
you were going through your own equipment

· It is another piece of software to keep updated on your clients

· How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access 
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so creds 
aren’t a free path in to your network).  I know they have some sort of two 
factor integration options, but I don’t think it’s at the first 
username/password prompt.





From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal use 
only? This sounds like business use to me…. >;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I’ve used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it’s one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it’s 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is “no”, but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









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RE: LogMeIn

[Derek Lidbom]

* What about the fact that it bypasses (using encrypted traffic
even) any protections you have in place to filter/monitor/scan traffic
passing through your gateway?

* It introduces a new attack vector (files can get on that
computer in ways they couldn't have before).

* You are trusting logmein with credentials that allow access to
your internal network.  Companies bigger than them get
usernames/passwords stolen.

* You have less logging of intrusion attempts (to my knowledge)
than if you were going through your own equipment

* It is another piece of software to keep updated on your
clients

* How do you protect the usernames/passwords users use to access
logmein?  (hopefully any vpn solution would have two-factor auth so
creds aren't a free path in to your network).  I know they have some
sort of two factor integration options, but I don't think it's at the
first username/password prompt.

 

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

 

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal
use only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

 

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
VPN, etc.

 

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
excuse for that opinion.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

 



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intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are
prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance
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and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this
information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties.
Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you
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RE: LogMeIn

[John Cook]

On a separate note we expressly forbid users to install ANY unapproved 
software, specifically remote control software, as it opens the network up to 
potential HIPAA violations (your regulatory obligations may come into play as 
well) Just say no!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it's 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or 
attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to 
which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), 
confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, 
dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this 
information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without 
the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may 
be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 
(HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or 
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Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need 
to.

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RE: LogMeIn

[David Lum]

Oh? Any idea where I would find that? This page mentions nothing about "Free 
for personal use only"
https://secure.logmein.com/products/free/

It just says "100% Free to use" with no caveat added. The closest thing I see 
is "For home and personal use", but my read is that from a functionality 
standpoint. Am I wrong? I hope not, but...
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: LogMeIn

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal use 
only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it's 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or 
attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to 
which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), 
confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, 
dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this 
information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without 
the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may 
be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 
(HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or 
disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties.
Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need 
to.





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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: LogMeIn

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a
> few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems ...

  You're letting an outside organization have control of one of your
computers.  You're okay with that?  Cool, can I have control of one of
your computers, too?  I promise I won't do anything bad.  Pinky swear!

  Sure, all these remote-control companies claim to have great
security.  *Everybody* claims that.  And yet, major security problems
keep on happening, all over the place, all the time.  From this, we
can conclude that claims of great security mean precisely nothing.

  "Security problems" don't have to mean them taking over the world.
It doesn't have to mean organization-wide intent.  It could be one
employee with a grudge.  Or maybe an undetected remote compromise on a
server in their datacenter -- these are high-profile targets, and
custom malware would be undetectable by signature-based virus
scanners.  Or maybe they cut back on security spending when the
economy tanked.  It might not be something you could detect -- passive
monitoring would be invisible.  It might not even be something with
specific intent -- maybe random malware makes it into their systems,
and then propagates over the remote-control system to you.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[David Mazzaccaro]

Lots of reasons.  Security & compliancy (HIPAA) come to mind.
With a VPN, you know (and have control) who is on the network.
 



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn



I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
VPN, etc.

 

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
excuse for that opinion.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[Alex Carroll]

I work for a company with 15 employees.  We said no to LogMeIn Free a
few months ago and just went with VPN.  We figured we had VPN and would
rather have our network less open than it was.  Damned if I can think of
a better reason than that... (never had an issue with security on
LogMeIn though).

 

Alex Carroll

Software Support

Crabtree Companies, Inc.

651-688-2727

 



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

 

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to
discourage a few of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their
systems so they can remote control their work machine and bypass the
need to use a VPN license?

 

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business
clients, but it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses,
another to recommend it's use to a larger company with resources for
VPN, etc.

 

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable
excuse for that opinion.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: LogMeIn

[John Cook]

Is there some verbatim in the LogMeIn agreement that says for personal use 
only? This sounds like business use to me >;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LogMeIn

I work for a company with ~300 employees, is there a reason to discourage a few 
of our employees from installing LogMeIn Free on their systems so they can 
remote control their work machine and bypass the need to use a VPN license?

I've used LogMeIn Free for years to connect to all my own business clients, but 
it's one thing to use it myself and small businesses, another to recommend it's 
use to a larger company with resources for VPN, etc.

My kneejerk reaction is "no", but damned if I can come up with a viable excuse 
for that opinion.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764









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RE: Logmein down?

[David Lum]

LOL, yah that must have been it. The must have soldered the wireless
connection back together because logmein works once again...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

Are you using Wireless, maybe it is related to this ;-)

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/02/wireless-internet-cut-in-egypt-by-low
-flying-plane.html

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

On 6 Feb 2008 at 8:25, David Lum  wrote:

> Still down here. DNS or IP change perhaps?

Works fine for me here in Arizona.  Must be another undersea cable cut
for you.

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GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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RE: Logmein down?

[Terry Dickson]

Are you using Wireless, maybe it is related to this ;-)

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/02/wireless-internet-cut-in-egypt-by-low
-flying-plane.html

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

On 6 Feb 2008 at 8:25, David Lum  wrote:

> Still down here. DNS or IP change perhaps?

Works fine for me here in Arizona.  Must be another undersea cable cut
for you.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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RE: Logmein down?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 6 Feb 2008 at 8:25, David Lum  wrote:

> Still down here. DNS or IP change perhaps?

Works fine for me here in Arizona.  Must be another undersea cable cut for you.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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RE: Logmein down?

[David Lum]

Still down here. DNS or IP change perhaps?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

 

 

Just came back up for me...

Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be. 
  
  
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:12 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Logmein down? 
  
  
I'm unable to reach it as well. 
Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what
I'm doing. 
  
  
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Logmein down? 
  
  
Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem? 
  
http://www.logmein.com/ 
  
James 
  
  

 

  

  
  





  


 

 





 


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RE: Logmein down?

[René de Haas]

It's up here
LOL I feel your pain.  Been there done that.  But with mother in law.


eeew


-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Logmein down?

LOL I feel your pain.  Been there done that.  But with mother in law.

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RE: Logmein down?

[Andy Shook]

My joke was better, turd breath.

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

 

 

Sounds like Shook every Saturday night...

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

 

 

Just came back up for me...

Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be. 
  
  
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:12 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Logmein down? 
  
  
I'm unable to reach it as well. 
Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what
I'm doing. 
  
  
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Logmein down? 
  
  
Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem? 
  
http://www.logmein.com/ 
  
James 
  
  

 

  

  
  

 

  


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Logmein down?

[Andy Shook]

... = (to his SO's disappointment once again)

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

 

 

Just came back up for me...

Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be. 
  
  
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:12 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Logmein down? 
  
  
I'm unable to reach it as well. 
Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what
I'm doing. 
  
  
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Logmein down? 
  
  
Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem? 
  
http://www.logmein.com/ 
  
James 
  
  

 

  

  
  





  


 

 





 


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RE: Logmein down?

[Joe Heaton]

A glitch in the Matrix.
 
Joe Heaton
 



From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?



You musta missed your grits this morning James.



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Logmein down?



Weird, now it started working for me also. Must have been a disturbance
in the Intertubes.
 
Thanks,
 
James

- Original Message - 
From: Louis, Joe <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: NT System Admin Issues
<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:05 AM
    Subject: RE: Logmein down?


Works for me



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?



Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?
 
http://www.logmein.com/
 
James































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RE: Logmein down?

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Sounds like Shook every Saturday night...

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

 

 

Just came back up for me...

Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be. 
  
  
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:12 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Logmein down? 
  
  
I'm unable to reach it as well. 
Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what
I'm doing. 
  
  
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Logmein down? 
  
  
Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem? 
  
http://www.logmein.com/ 
  
James 
  
  

 

  

  
  





  


 

 





 


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Re: Logmein down?

[Steve Ens]

LOL I feel your pain.  Been there done that.  But with mother in law.

On Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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RE: Logmein down?

[Roger Wright]

Just came back up for me...



Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be. 
  
  
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:12 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Logmein down? 
  
  
I'm unable to reach it as well. 
Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what
I'm doing. 
  
  
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Logmein down? 
  
  
Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem? 
  
http://www.logmein.com/ 
  
James 
  
  

 

  

  
  






  



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RE: Logmein down?

[Tom Strader]

You musta missed your grits this morning James.



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Logmein down?



Weird, now it started working for me also. Must have been a disturbance
in the Intertubes.
 
Thanks,
 
James

- Original Message - 
From: Louis, Joe <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: NT System Admin Issues
<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:05 AM
    Subject: RE: Logmein down?


Works for me



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?



Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?
 
http://www.logmein.com/
 
James
























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RE: Logmein down?

[Tom Strader]

No problem here!!



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?



Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?
 
http://www.logmein.com/
 
James








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RE: Logmein down?

[Sam Cayze]

It's up here, thank Goodness.  Mom just called and she needs some help
on her PC ;)
 
 



From: Lee Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Logmein down?



works fine here in NC


On Feb 6, 2008 10:07 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Broken here Llake Oswego, Oregon)

 

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:06 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: Logmein down?





 

 

Works for me

 



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?

 

Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?

 

http://www.logmein.com/

 

James

 





 

 

 

 




 























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Re: Logmein down?

[Sean Houston]

in Cleveland, OH it is working normal.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:50 AM, Lee Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Re: Logmein down?

[Lee Douglas]

works fine here in NC

On Feb 6, 2008 10:07 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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RE: Logmein down?

[David Lum]

Broken here Llake Oswego, Oregon)

 

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Logmein down?

 

 

Works for me

 



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?

 

Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?

 

http://www.logmein.com/

 

James

 






 

 

 

 





 


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Re: Logmein down?

[James Kerr]

Weird, now it started working for me also. Must have been a disturbance in the 
Intertubes.

Thanks,

James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Louis, Joe 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:05 AM
  Subject: RE: Logmein down?




  Works for me



--
  From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Logmein down?




  Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?

  http://www.logmein.com/

  James

















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RE: Logmein down?

[Roger Wright]

I'm unable to reach it as well.



Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what
I'm doing. 
  
  
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Logmein down? 
  
  
Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem? 
  
http://www.logmein.com/ 
  
James 
  
  






  



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RE: Logmein down?

[Terry Dickson]

No problem for me either.

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From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?


Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?
 
http://www.logmein.com/
 
James








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RE: Logmein down?

[Louis, Joe]

Works for me

  _  

From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Logmein down?



Cant connect to logmein. Anyone else having the same problem?
 
http://www.logmein.com/  
 
James













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