Re: NOD32 - VIPRE
Lucky me Sunbelt is just down the road and some of the other campuses are using their products. THEY are even closer than I am so Sunbelt is an easy sell to management when we have the money. At the moment the quote for Vipre they offerred and that Eset STILL will not quote for NOD32 is making it easier and easier by the day. Jon On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:58 PM, James Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Joe Heaton wrote: Anyone here in a government position, that has looked into Vipre? I've had some really good product ideas shot down in the past, because the company was not California based, and/or not a certified small business, and/or the product isn't offered through a reseller who was in California/small business. I've loved Sunbelt in the past, it sounds like Vipre is pretty much there, but I hate the idea of setting myself up for a heart break again… Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel San Diego State (CSU) is using CounterSpy, another Sunbelt product. So you shouldn't have a problem, sorry timing of our contract for another anti virus product dictates it not quite time to look into alternatives (Vipre) yet. Jim ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NOD32 - VIPRE
Joe Heaton wrote: Anyone here in a government position, that has looked into Vipre? I’ve had some really good product ideas shot down in the past, because the company was not California based, and/or not a certified small business, and/or the product isn’t offered through a reseller who was in California/small business. I’ve loved Sunbelt in the past, it sounds like Vipre is pretty much there, but I hate the idea of setting myself up for a heart break again… Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel San Diego State (CSU) is using CounterSpy, another Sunbelt product. So you shouldn't have a problem, sorry timing of our contract for another anti virus product dictates it not quite time to look into alternatives (Vipre) yet. Jim ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: NOD32 - VIPRE
Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond almost all the other companies. Jon On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 – 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook *From:* Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim *From:* Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 *To:* ML: NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** *John C. Kelsey** *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com www.sunbeltblog.com -- *From:* Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
Yes, if you post a comment on the list for Sunbelt's Counterspy, for example. A ticket is opened and a tech calls YOU. At least it works that way for me. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond almost all the other companies. Jon On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 - 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
Sunbelt is a great company!! Support is superb.. Until they get bought out by Symantec or the like.. Phil From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, if you post a comment on the list for Sunbelt's Counterspy, for example. A ticket is opened and a tech calls YOU. At least it works that way for me. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond almost all the other companies. Jon On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 - 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs
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Gesh don't make a joke like that, please. You might give them an idea they had not even thought of. Jon On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Phil Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunbelt is a great company!! Support is superb.. Until they get bought out by Symantec or the like.. Phil *From:* Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, if you post a comment on the list for Sunbelt's Counterspy, for example. A ticket is opened and a tech calls YOU. At least it works that way for me. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond almost all the other companies. Jon On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 – 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook *From:* Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim *From:* Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 *To:* ML: NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** *John C. Kelsey** *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
Anyone here in a government position, that has looked into Vipre? I've had some really good product ideas shot down in the past, because the company was not California based, and/or not a certified small business, and/or the product isn't offered through a reseller who was in California/small business. I've loved Sunbelt in the past, it sounds like Vipre is pretty much there, but I hate the idea of setting myself up for a heart break again... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Gesh don't make a joke like that, please. You might give them an idea they had not even thought of. Jon On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Phil Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunbelt is a great company!! Support is superb.. Until they get bought out by Symantec or the like.. Phil From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, if you post a comment on the list for Sunbelt's Counterspy, for example. A ticket is opened and a tech calls YOU. At least it works that way for me. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond almost all the other companies. Jon On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 - 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE
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Hi gang, Im trying to test out Windows 2003 RMS here so that our Word docs are given a level of protection against being emailed out. I've followed the step by step insttructions to install it on our 2003 server. It's the only server here in our small office. Everything has gone to plan and it all appeared to install first time. However, when I try the Word part of the test which involves creating and save a test doc, clicking the Office button in Word then choosing Prepare and then Restrict Permission and then Restrict Access, it goes wrong. Rather than showing me the options to restrict access, it asks me whether i want to sign up for a trial with the MS RMS service. I've registered the RMS SCP in Active Directory using the RMS management page on the server, and I cant see any errors on the workstation that relate to not being able to find it etc. Any ideas why I'm not seeing the options to restrict access ? Olly -- G2 Support Online Backups Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.g2support.com http://www.g2support.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Um... what does this have to do with NOD32 or VIPRE? From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Hi gang, Im trying to test out Windows 2003 RMS here so that our Word docs are given a level of protection against being emailed out. I've followed the step by step insttructions to install it on our 2003 server. It's the only server here in our small office. Everything has gone to plan and it all appeared to install first time. However, when I try the Word part of the test which involves creating and save a test doc, clicking the Office button in Word then choosing Prepare and then Restrict Permission and then Restrict Access, it goes wrong. Rather than showing me the options to restrict access, it asks me whether i want to sign up for a trial with the MS RMS service. I've registered the RMS SCP in Active Directory using the RMS management page on the server, and I cant see any errors on the workstation that relate to not being able to find it etc. Any ideas why I'm not seeing the options to restrict access ? Olly -- G2 Support Online Backups Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.g2support.com http://www.g2support.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Soz, wrong window J From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2008 16:01 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Um... what does this have to do with NOD32 or VIPRE? From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Hi gang, Im trying to test out Windows 2003 RMS here so that our Word docs are given a level of protection against being emailed out. I've followed the step by step insttructions to install it on our 2003 server. It's the only server here in our small office. Everything has gone to plan and it all appeared to install first time. However, when I try the Word part of the test which involves creating and save a test doc, clicking the Office button in Word then choosing Prepare and then Restrict Permission and then Restrict Access, it goes wrong. Rather than showing me the options to restrict access, it asks me whether i want to sign up for a trial with the MS RMS service. I've registered the RMS SCP in Active Directory using the RMS management page on the server, and I cant see any errors on the workstation that relate to not being able to find it etc. Any ideas why I'm not seeing the options to restrict access ? Olly -- G2 Support Online Backups Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.g2support.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
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Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues
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There is nothing wrong with ESET, other than their management and deployment config is horrible, terrible documentation and service is not the most responsive. The product however is good, no bones there at all. Vipre is just as good or better with superior support and a forum that is always on and full of knowledgeable people..not to mention the company (Who hosts this forum)closely monitors it. Greg Sweers From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM
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IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.comhttp://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT
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Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil
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Yes Annie, how many PC's are we talking about? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any, how many PC's? -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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50 and don't ever misspell my name again. Shook From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.comhttp://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319
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Yes, he messed up my name but that's OK, the sun will come out tomorrow... Shook -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes Annie, how many PC's are we talking about? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any, how many PC's? -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I agree with Shook. The one year renewal for mcafee was the same as three years of vipre. The additional spyware piece is just cake on top. From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Thanks Andy - I appreciate your candor. I am definitely going to give VIPRE a look. From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:33 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent
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Not me! No way am I jumping ship :) From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007
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Andy/or others, is there anyone you recommend I talk to about VIPRE? Should I just visit the website? or is there someone you work with that you would recommend? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:52 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, he messed up my name but that's OK, the sun will come out tomorrow... Shook -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes Annie, how many PC's are we talking about? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any, how many PC's? -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Sorry, my d button did not work! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE 50 and don't ever misspell my name again. Shook From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil
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Jim, Would you like to talk to someone internal to Sunbelt or a partner\intergrator? Shook -Original Message- From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Andy/or others, is there anyone you recommend I talk to about VIPRE? Should I just visit the website? or is there someone you work with that you would recommend? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:52 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, he messed up my name but that's OK, the sun will come out tomorrow... Shook -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes Annie, how many PC's are we talking about? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any, how many PC's? -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I liked ESET compared to Trend, but as I learned it had issues. Greg summed it up, but aren't those issues that make NOD not feasible? Support really does suck and the techs that I encountered were useless. One guy wouldn't tell me how to do something because he said We don't like it being done that way? I wanted a farking warning removed for a module I didn't use? So happy I am done with that crap. jlc From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.comhttp://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works
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Someone internal to Sunbelt I imagine, I am not big fish, about 25 workstations, 16 servers and 2 Exchange Servers. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 14:10 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Jim, Would you like to talk to someone internal to Sunbelt or a partner\intergrator? Shook -Original Message- From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Andy/or others, is there anyone you recommend I talk to about VIPRE? Should I just visit the website? or is there someone you work with that you would recommend? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:52 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, he messed up my name but that's OK, the sun will come out tomorrow... Shook -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes Annie, how many PC's are we talking about? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any, how many PC's? -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Jim, What specifics are you looking for? I am sure there are others on the list who would benefit from the questions and there are a few people here who are pretty versed with Sunbelt products and install them regularly. Greg -Original Message- From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Andy/or others, is there anyone you recommend I talk to about VIPRE? Should I just visit the website? or is there someone you work with that you would recommend? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:52 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes, he messed up my name but that's OK, the sun will come out tomorrow... Shook -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes Annie, how many PC's are we talking about? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any, how many PC's? -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Oh, you saw what I did there? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, he messed up my name but that's OK, the sun will come out tomorrow... -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 - 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the promotion it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan
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We are working on a VIPRE that will run as its own exe, for this exact purpose. I completely agree that it's needed! Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - VIPRE So when can we expect to see Vipre on a thumb drive? That would be a great selling point especially if it could be configured for booting. I know I have dealt with enough systems that if a reliable way could be found to boot a thumb and clean a system infected with bugs it would help me a lot and save my garage clients money or at least give them a real option to a wipe and reinstall of the OS. Jon On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ www.sunbeltblog.com http://www.sunbeltblog.com/ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319
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So when can we expect to see Vipre on a thumb drive? That would be a great selling point especially if it could be configured for booting. I know I have dealt with enough systems that if a reliable way could be found to boot a thumb and clean a system infected with bugs it would help me a lot and save my garage clients money or at least give them a real option to a wipe and reinstall of the OS. Jon On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sunbeltsoftware.com www.sunbeltblog.com -- *From:* Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct *From:* Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson -- *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. *Paul Chinnery* *Network Administrator* *Memorial Medical Center* *231-845-2319* -Original Message- *From:* Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson -- *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. *Paul Chinnery* *Network Administrator* *Memorial Medical Center* *231-845-2319* -Original Message- *From:* Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... -- *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. *Paul Chinnery* *Network Administrator* *Memorial Medical Center* *231-845-2319* -Original Message- *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre – hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier… on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? *Paul Chinnery* *Network Administrator* *Memorial Medical Center* *231-845-2319* -Original Message- *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both
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I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what
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With our issue our sys admin wasn't able to send any email without getting a generic Operation Failed dialog. He has since reinstalled Vipre and not seen this issue for about a week. Scott Lijewski Applications Developer Memorial Medical Center 231-845-3602 _ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson _ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson _ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... _ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM
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No. Change. Now. If you ask, they will even license you now until the nod32 license expires, for free. At least they offered me that option. NOD32 is fine, but the support has gotten almost non-existent, and there are a few admin problems I that am tired of. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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You're not going to find better support than Sunbelt!! Phil From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Did this last week, no sweat. The biggest hassle was uninstalling NOD32. Shook From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Just in the middle of a transition myself from NOD32 to Vipre. NOD32 has so many manglement issues and its deployment is busted. Tech support sucks, they are busy and NEVER return calls. After two bad dats made my life miserable, I dumped them. The management features of Vipre answered every issue I had with NOD32. So far so good... jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first :). Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
I'm reading the Archives right now, looks like the files exclusion is not Prime Time, Sunbelt is working on it! I 'm really getting the feeling I should wait 1 more year! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences
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Little early for me to give a Yea or Nay as I'm stll in the process of rolling it out to all desktops (formerly used OfficeScan). I've had to call support on a few issues. Here's what I've found (iirc): 1. User runs a client prg (we Meditech c/s) on her pc to d/l data from server to another server: with active protection on, it slows way down. Sunbelt still looking into that. 2. At this time, you can't add to Allow list from console and have it move to all installed clients/agents. Supposed to be fixed sometime this month. 3. Another user running Picis OR Manager has his prg slow down with AP running; 4. Vipre was blocking javaw.exe! That one irritated me as there's no way that should be blocked. However, I instructed users on how to allow it. 5. It thought an index process for my Google Desktop was 'known bad.' I just added it to the allow list. OTOH, 1. Impact on systems was smaller than OfficeScan RE: cpu and ram usage. 2. Screen and report functions are vastly improved over CounterSpy 2.0. 3. Since it's a combined anti-virus and anti-spyware, no need to purchase separate products. 4. I think it's much easier to work with compared to OfficeScan. Setting up policies is a snap and very configurable. 5. Cost was less, too. That's my impressions so far. Hopefully a year from now I'll be happy I switched to Vipre. -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Its usually a good idea for a new vendor/product. On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reading the Archives right now, looks like the files exclusion is not Prime Time, Sunbelt is working on it! I 'm really getting the feeling I should wait 1 more year! -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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+1, that's the exact piece I was thinking. Current workaround is fine for a small shop where you'll have few exclusions, but for a huge orgnot quite there IMO. I'm guessing in a year they'll have a product ready for the big time. They do have (what sounds like - I haven't used it) a cool scanning tool -currently beta - that scans your system and checks it against Sunbelt's list and if it's not familiar to them, it fires off a copy of it to them for evaluation. To add to Paul's comments on Vipre vs. OfficeScan, 1) I never ran head-to-head with Vipre, but I've had no complaints from users as far as speed with either product (or McAfee for that matter). 2) I've used OfficeScan enough that the Vipre isn't easier, just different. 3) Trend's Worry-Free (free upgrade of you have OfficeScan 3.1 or later) catches a LOT of stuff that OfficeScan v3.6 didn't. Don't get me wrong, I moved 2 networks from Trend to Vipre and a 3rd from Symantec to Vipre, no regets. Dave From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm reading the Archives right now, looks like the files exclusion is not Prime Time, Sunbelt is working on it! I 'm really getting the feeling I should wait 1 more year! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first :). Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... _ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first :). Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
They had me run the scanning tool. Pretty slick. I have to admit I wasn't running the newest version of OfficeScan (1 rev behind); was planning to upgrade but then Vipre came along about the same time our support cost for OS was due. One thing I really didn't like about OS was upgrade time. Man, that was a nightmare everytime I did it. (Major upgade not just a .x upgrade.) We're not a large org: about 300 desktops to put Vipre on. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE +1, that's the exact piece I was thinking. Current workaround is fine for a small shop where you'll have few exclusions, but for a huge orgnot quite there IMO. I'm guessing in a year they'll have a product ready for the big time. They do have (what sounds like - I haven't used it) a cool scanning tool -currently beta - that scans your system and checks it against Sunbelt's list and if it's not familiar to them, it fires off a copy of it to them for evaluation. To add to Paul's comments on Vipre vs. OfficeScan, 1) I never ran head-to-head with Vipre, but I've had no complaints from users as far as speed with either product (or McAfee for that matter). 2) I've used OfficeScan enough that the Vipre isn't easier, just different. 3) Trend's Worry-Free (free upgrade of you have OfficeScan 3.1 or later) catches a LOT of stuff that OfficeScan v3.6 didn't. Don't get me wrong, I moved 2 networks from Trend to Vipre and a 3rd from Symantec to Vipre, no regets. Dave From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm reading the Archives right now, looks like the files exclusion is not Prime Time, Sunbelt is working on it! I 'm really getting the feeling I should wait 1 more year! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson _ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... _ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first :-). Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :-)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE He kept getting the Operation Failed error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first :). Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What
Re: NOD32 - VIPRE
Select a few guinea pigs and let the demo run it's course. It's the only way to know how well it will work in your environment. Stefan Jafs wrote: My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it’s not worth the switch! What are your experiences? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you :)). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I know I had the bad DATs as well and that is helping the case with my switching from NOD32 this year. I have moved the NOD32 to its own server to give me the option when it is time to switch. NOD32 sales agent we use still has not given me a budgetary quote but then it has only be 2 weeks since I asked for it. Sunbelt had me one within one day. Sounds to me like NOD32 may not even want to sell to me. Jon On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just in the middle of a transition myself from NOD32 to Vipre. NOD32 has so many manglement issues and its deployment is busted. Tech support sucks, they are busy and NEVER return calls. After two bad dats made my life miserable, I dumped them. The management features of Vipre answered every issue I had with NOD32. So far so good… jlc *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:22 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? *___* *Stefan Jafs* This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I would also suggest you join the Vipre forum that Sunbelt has. You can then learn live if there are issues and get an insight into how the Tech support works and the software. I will say I have been impressed with the speed they find and fix issues. One thing I have seen is that sometimes you can install Vipre on a machine and have it get rid of bugs and sometimes you can't. I know NOD can't do that. I also know that Sunbelt is working on getting a version that will work off of a bootable thumb drive which will be very sweet. I don't think NOD is doing that or will do that. My renewal in in about 4 to 5 months so I am looking as well. Jon On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Select a few guinea pigs and let the demo run it's course. It's the only way to know how well it will work in your environment. Stefan Jafs wrote: My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE Nope no regrets, the bad me was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences
Re: NOD32 - VIPRE
I've put in a small implementation of Vipre (have Trend in the main company). I like the Vipre, but I need more time to see how it reacts to some of the nasties out there. On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? *___* *Stefan Jafs* This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: NOD32 - VIPRE
So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE My network is 200 + ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for prime big time (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
