Re: list delays

[Overlord of the Masters]

Lawrence,

It is I, Overlord of The Masters. I directed my minions many days ago to
cease in their education of you and exposing your falsely arrogant
assumptions. Any residual damage is either but a mere delay in the outcomes
of their actions, or they are the actions of others beyond the Brotherhood
of The Masters. Clearly you are beyond education and have to sucummed to
running away crying like a little girl (my apologies to little girls) and
refusing to accept blame for your own actions.
Please note, The Brotherhood of The Masters would gladly accept your
apology and consider the past to be but water under the bridge. However I
have foreseen that you will not realize the error of your ways and will not
seek the path of true enlightenment. I eagerly await you proving me
incorrect in my vision.

Best regards,
Mr. Overlord


On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:

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>
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> the first time and I surely shouldn't have to ask again.
>
> Please remove my Email address from your hateful, bigotted discussion list.
>
> Thank you.  (Is there any way that I can be nicer about this?)
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Mack Bolan wrote:
>
>> Seems like only yesterday Larry said "I'm not going anywhere unless you
>> ban me..."
>>
>> Mack S. Bolan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
>>> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>>>
>>> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
>>> also "FBI Dude".)
>>>
>>> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
>>> Internet business."
>>>
>>> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a
>>> Google result.
>>>
>>> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
>>> please many of you.
>>>
>>> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>>>
 What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and
 "made  some money".

 Or some such claims.

 -Max

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan 
 wrote:

> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo 
> about
> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>
> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
> using his real name.
>
> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing
> his inability to accept personal responsibility.
>
> Fascinating.
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RE: list delays

[Ron . Wulff]

Hey now, let's not bring Pittsburgh into this lol


 

 

 



From:   "Kelsey, John" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   03/19/2012 03:41 PM
Subject:RE: list delays



I thought it was ‘yinz’…or is that only in Pittsburgh?
 
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays
 
The plural of y’all is y’all. Your mistake was that you concatenated it 
with a northernism. The proper phrase is
 
“Geez louise, cain’t y’all idjits evah git anythin’ rite?”
 
(s) Signed,
Mr. Suthren Pedant
 
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays
 
No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls. 
 
 
 
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com

From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster  wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything 
write? 
 
 
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RE: list delays

[Kelsey, John]

I thought it was 'yinz'...or is that only in Pittsburgh?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

The plural of y'all is y'all. Your mistake was that you concatenated it with a 
northernism. The proper phrase is

"Geez louise, cain't y'all idjits evah git anythin' rite?"

(s) Signed,
Mr. Suthren Pedant

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

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____
From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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Re: list delays

[Mack Bolan]

Forget your password to the Lyris site did you?  Check the post-it under
your keyboard?

Mack S. Bolan



On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:

> I have followed the instructions to unsubscribe from this list and I
> continue to receive new messages on new topics from the list.
>
> I want out because some of you are harassing me via telephone calls.
>
> Please remove me manually.
>
> Also, I am continuing to receive new communications from local businesses
> who have received communications through their own online forms requesting
> their services for my company.
>
> Additionally, someone is signing this Email address up for porn and gay
> websites.
>
> I'm sure that some of you have worked in the legal community and
> understand the legal definition of harassment.
>
> I will ask you all again to please stop.  I shouldn't have had to ask you
> the first time and I surely shouldn't have to ask again.
>
> Please remove my Email address from your hateful, bigotted discussion list.
>
> Thank you.  (Is there any way that I can be nicer about this?)
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Mack Bolan wrote:
>
>> Seems like only yesterday Larry said "I'm not going anywhere unless you
>> ban me..."
>>
>> Mack S. Bolan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
>>> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>>>
>>> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
>>> also "FBI Dude".)
>>>
>>> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
>>> Internet business."
>>>
>>> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a
>>> Google result.
>>>
>>> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
>>> please many of you.
>>>
>>> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>>>
 What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and
 "made  some money".

 Or some such claims.

 -Max

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan 
 wrote:

> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo 
> about
> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>
> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
> using his real name.
>
> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing
> his inability to accept personal responsibility.
>
> Fascinating.
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Re: list delays

[Cynicalgeek]

I have followed the instructions to unsubscribe from this list and I
continue to receive new messages on new topics from the list.

I want out because some of you are harassing me via telephone calls.

Please remove me manually.

Also, I am continuing to receive new communications from local businesses
who have received communications through their own online forms requesting
their services for my company.

Additionally, someone is signing this Email address up for porn and gay
websites.

I'm sure that some of you have worked in the legal community and understand
the legal definition of harassment.

I will ask you all again to please stop.  I shouldn't have had to ask you
the first time and I surely shouldn't have to ask again.

Please remove my Email address from your hateful, bigotted discussion list.

Thank you.  (Is there any way that I can be nicer about this?)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Mack Bolan  wrote:

> Seems like only yesterday Larry said "I'm not going anywhere unless you
> ban me..."
>
> Mack S. Bolan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>
>> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
>> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>>
>> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
>> also "FBI Dude".)
>>
>> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
>> Internet business."
>>
>> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a
>> Google result.
>>
>> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
>> please many of you.
>>
>> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>>
>>> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and
>>> "made  some money".
>>>
>>> Or some such claims.
>>>
>>> -Max
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
 "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
 a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.

 Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
 self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
 using his real name.

 And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
 inability to accept personal responsibility.

 Fascinating.
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Re: list delays

[Erik Goldoff]

fo shizzle ?

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Guyer, Donald  wrote:

>  Actually, I hear “yizz’all” when I go into Philly…
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Directory and Messaging Services
> Catholic Health East, ITSS
>
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RE: list delays

[Guyer, Donald]

Actually, I hear "yizz'all" when I go into Philly...

Regards,

Don Guyer
Directory and Messaging Services
Catholic Health East, ITSS

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

It's only "all y'all" if y'all are talkin' to more than one "y'all". Like at 
the meetin' house, talkin' to the Deacons and the Church Wifes and the choir... 
each of them is a "y'all" but when you is referrin' to them all together it's 
"all y'all".

From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

NoIf it's plural, then it's "all y'alls".

"I'm better at toilet bowl horseshoes than all y'alls!"

Regards,

Don Guyer
Directory and Messaging Services
Catholic Health East, ITSS

From: Steven M. Caesare 
[mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]<mailto:[mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

It's not "all y'all"?

-sc

From: Erik Goldoff 
[mailto:egold...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:egold...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

no no NO !

The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com<mailto:rich...@gmail.com>]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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Re: list delays

[Max Tork]

He posted multiple assertions.

There are incorrect assertions in his list.

My statement therefore holds true.

-Max

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  At the very least, item #2 appears to be correct, given that you
> re-posted what is otherwise private conversation back to this list.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Max Tork [mailto:maxt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 March 2012 10:43 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>
> ** **
>
> Again, your deduction skills fail you.
>
>  
>
> You are making assertions which not only are untrue, but for which you
> neither have evidence or proof.
>
>  
>
> -Max
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Cynicalgeek 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
> also "FBI Dude".)
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
> Internet business."
>
> ** **
>
> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google
> result.
>
> ** **
>
> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
> please many of you.
>
> ** **
>
> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>
> ** **
>
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RE: list delays

[Ken Schaefer]

At the very least, item #2 appears to be correct, given that you re-posted what 
is otherwise private conversation back to this list.


From: Max Tork [mailto:maxt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2012 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Again, your deduction skills fail you.

You are making assertions which not only are untrue, but for which you neither 
have evidence or proof.

-Max
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Cynicalgeek 
mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help, which 
I suspected was a lie immediately.

Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were also 
"FBI Dude".)

Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my 
Internet business."

And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google 
result.

I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will please 
many of you.

Now would you all please quit harassing me?!



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Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

That is only because of the lists lag factor.

On Thursday, March 15, 2012, Mack Bolan  wrote:
> Seems like only yesterday Larry said "I'm not going anywhere unless you
ban me..."
>
> Mack S. Bolan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
also "FBI Dude".)
>> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
Internet business."
>> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a
Google result.
>> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
please many of you.
>> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>>>
>>> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and
"made  some money".
>>>
>>> Or some such claims.
>>>
>>> -Max
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan 
wrote:

 The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
"Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.

 Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
using his real name.

 And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing
his inability to accept personal responsibility.

 Fascinating.
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>> --
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Re: list delays

[Mack Bolan]

Seems like only yesterday Larry said "I'm not going anywhere unless you ban
me..."

Mack S. Bolan



On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:

> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>
> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
> also "FBI Dude".)
>
> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
> Internet business."
>
> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google
> result.
>
> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
> please many of you.
>
> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>
>> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and "made
>>  some money".
>>
>> Or some such claims.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan wrote:
>>
>>> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
>>> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
>>> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>>>
>>> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
>>> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
>>> using his real name.
>>>
>>> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
>>> inability to accept personal responsibility.
>>>
>>> Fascinating.
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
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>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>
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>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
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>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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>
>
>
> --
> -cynicalgeek-
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Re: list delays

[Mack Bolan]

Saw that.  Still don't know how blaming someone's sig made money for
anyone, but maybe this whole thing was a ruse?

Mack S. Bolan



On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:

> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and "made
>  some money".
>
> Or some such claims.
>
> -Max
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan wrote:
>
>> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
>> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
>> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>>
>> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
>> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
>> using his real name.
>>
>> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
>> inability to accept personal responsibility.
>>
>> Fascinating.
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
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>
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Re: list delays

[Gary Slinger]

Yeah, but he's done posting here, so I'd call that a friggin' win. 

-Original Message-
From: Max Tork 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:43:08 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

Again, your deduction skills fail you.

You are making assertions which not only are untrue, but for which you
neither have evidence or proof.

-Max

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:

> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>
> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
> also "FBI Dude".)
>
> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
> Internet business."
>
> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google
> result.
>
> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
> please many of you.
>
> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>
>> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and "made
>>  some money".
>>
>> Or some such claims.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan wrote:
>>
>>> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
>>> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
>>> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>>>
>>> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
>>> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
>>> using his real name.
>>>
>>> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
>>> inability to accept personal responsibility.
>>>
>>> Fascinating.
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: list delays

[Max Tork]

Again, your deduction skills fail you.

You are making assertions which not only are untrue, but for which you
neither have evidence or proof.

-Max

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:

> Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
> which I suspected was a lie immediately.
>
> Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
> also "FBI Dude".)
>
> Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
> Internet business."
>
> And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google
> result.
>
> I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
> please many of you.
>
> Now would you all please quit harassing me?!
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:
>
>> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and "made
>>  some money".
>>
>> Or some such claims.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan wrote:
>>
>>> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
>>> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
>>> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>>>
>>> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
>>> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
>>> using his real name.
>>>
>>> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
>>> inability to accept personal responsibility.
>>>
>>> Fascinating.
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
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>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>
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>
>
>
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Re: list delays

[Cynicalgeek]

Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help,
which I suspected was a lie immediately.

Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were
also "FBI Dude".)

Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to "clean up my
Internet business."

And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google
result.

I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will
please many of you.

Now would you all please quit harassing me?!

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork  wrote:

> What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and "made
>  some money".
>
> Or some such claims.
>
> -Max
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan wrote:
>
>> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
>> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
>> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>>
>> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
>> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
>> using his real name.
>>
>> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
>> inability to accept personal responsibility.
>>
>> Fascinating.
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
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>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
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>
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Re: list delays

[Max Tork]

What's more... I believe he "helped us out", "provided conent", and "made
 some money".

Or some such claims.

-Max

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan wrote:

> The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the
> "Cynic" somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about
> a blurb of text causing list serv slowness.
>
> Then assaulting the character of list verterans or "masters" with a
> self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not
> using his real name.
>
> And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his
> inability to accept personal responsibility.
>
> Fascinating.
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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Re: list delays

[William Robbins]

So it's more of a reward?  :)

 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"



On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 17:47, Rankin, James R wrote:

> I loved NT4. See previous threads for evidence of my Win2K hatred :-)
>
> ---Blackberried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Webster 
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:53:45
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject:
> RE: list delays
>
> For your punishment, you must go back to NT4 and NT4 roaming profiles for
> 30 days!
>
>
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
>
> 
> From: Rankin, James R [kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.
>
> ---Blackberried
> 
> From: Jonathan Link 
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining
> anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.
>
> Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the
> first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He
> voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the
> signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered
> to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on
> the community.  I know several who have interesting usern...@gmail.com
> <mailto:usern...@gmail.com> addresses, but do put their real name, or
> what I think is their real name out there.  Ben Scott, for example is
> mailvortex.  For all I know mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally
> a responsible member of the community. (Sorry Ben!)
>
> I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't
> had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It
> appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown  <mailto:jbr...@webcoindustries.com>> wrote:
> I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…
>
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com gary.slin...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> Nice. Very nice.
> 
> From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
> To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"  <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
> chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
> tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
> interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
> security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
> from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.
>
> All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
> Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise
> his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For
> some reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool
> of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to
> show remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor
> Ready.  He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the
> internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy
> that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the
> house at the time...
>
> We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard
> from again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to
> reduce the attack surface...
>
> A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study
> the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...
>  Well, not to me anyway...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger  <mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> ?
> 
> From: Don Ely mailto:don@

RE: list delays

[Webster]

No AppSense for you!


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Rankin, James R [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

I loved NT4. See previous threads for evidence of my Win2K hatred :-)

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:53:45
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: list delays

For your punishment, you must go back to NT4 and NT4 roaming profiles for 30 
days!



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Rankin, James R [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.

---Blackberried

From: Jonathan Link 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining 
anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.

Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the first 
one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He voiced an 
objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the signature, and 
thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered to put his real 
name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on the community.  I 
know several who have interesting usern...@gmail.com<mailto:usern...@gmail.com> 
addresses, but do put their real name, or what I think is their real name out 
there.  Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex.  For all I know mailvortex is 
someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the community. (Sorry 
Ben!)

I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't had 
any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It appears that 
he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown 
mailto:jbr...@webcoindustries.com>> wrote:
I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…

From: Gary Slinger 
[mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com<mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Nice. Very nice.

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that chose 
to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said tool was 
posting from his work account which made his comments all the more 
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things 
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain from 
acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.

All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain Tool 
of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise his 
employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For some 
reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool of all 
Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to show 
remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor Ready.  He 
was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the internal 
network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy that their 
company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the house at the time...

We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from 
again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce the 
attack surface...

A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study the 
LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...  Well, not 
to me anyway...


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger 
mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
?

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the E

Re: list delays

[Rankin, James R]

I loved NT4. See previous threads for evidence of my Win2K hatred :-)

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:53:45 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: list delays

For your punishment, you must go back to NT4 and NT4 roaming profiles for 30 
days!



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Rankin, James R [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.

---Blackberried

From: Jonathan Link 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining 
anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.

Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the first 
one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He voiced an 
objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the signature, and 
thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered to put his real 
name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on the community.  I 
know several who have interesting usern...@gmail.com<mailto:usern...@gmail.com> 
addresses, but do put their real name, or what I think is their real name out 
there.  Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex.  For all I know mailvortex is 
someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the community. (Sorry 
Ben!)

I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't had 
any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It appears that 
he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown 
mailto:jbr...@webcoindustries.com>> wrote:
I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…

From: Gary Slinger 
[mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com<mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Nice. Very nice.

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that chose 
to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said tool was 
posting from his work account which made his comments all the more 
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things 
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain from 
acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.

All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain Tool 
of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise his 
employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For some 
reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool of all 
Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to show 
remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor Ready.  He 
was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the internal 
network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy that their 
company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the house at the time...

We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from 
again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce the 
attack surface...

A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study the 
LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...  Well, not 
to me anyway...


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger 
mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
?

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...  :D
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything 
beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being 
sent directly to the email a

Re: list delays

[Jon Harris]

ne, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>
>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>> using my real name.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>>>>>>>>>> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Original Message--
>>>>>>>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins'
>>>>>>>>>> email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries <
>>>>>>>>>> nt...@hedgedigger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed
>>>>>>>>>> or ditch lyris.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>

Re: list delays

[Mack Bolan]

Harsh!


Mack S. Bolan

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Webster  wrote:

> For your punishment, you must go back to NT4 and NT4 roaming profiles for
> 30 days!
>
>
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
>
> 
> From: Rankin, James R [kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.
>
> ---Blackberried
> 
> From: Jonathan Link 
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining
> anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.
>
> Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the
> first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He
> voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the
> signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered
> to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on
> the community.  I know several who have interesting usern...@gmail.com
> <mailto:usern...@gmail.com> addresses, but do put their real name, or
> what I think is their real name out there.  Ben Scott, for example is
> mailvortex.  For all I know mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally
> a responsible member of the community. (Sorry Ben!)
>
> I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't
> had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It
> appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.
>
>

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Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

Please. It is not you or your sig, IMO.

On Thursday, March 15, 2012, Rankin, James R  wrote:
> I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.
>
> ---Blackberried
> 
> From: Jonathan Link 
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: list delays
> While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining
anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.
>
> Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the
first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He
voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the
signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered
to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on
the community.  I know several who have interesting
username@gmail.comaddresses, but do put their real name, or what I
think is their real name
out there.  Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex.  For all I know
mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the
community. (Sorry Ben!)
>
> I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't
had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It
appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown 
wrote:
>
> I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…
>
>
>
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
>
>
> Nice. Very nice.
>
> ________
>
> From: Don Ely 
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
>
>
> For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.
>
>
>
> All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
Tool of all Douche Waffles was a

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RE: list delays

[Webster]

For your punishment, you must go back to NT4 and NT4 roaming profiles for 30 
days!



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Rankin, James R [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.

---Blackberried

From: Jonathan Link 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining 
anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.

Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the first 
one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He voiced an 
objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the signature, and 
thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered to put his real 
name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on the community.  I 
know several who have interesting usern...@gmail.com<mailto:usern...@gmail.com> 
addresses, but do put their real name, or what I think is their real name out 
there.  Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex.  For all I know mailvortex is 
someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the community. (Sorry 
Ben!)

I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't had 
any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It appears that 
he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown 
mailto:jbr...@webcoindustries.com>> wrote:
I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…

From: Gary Slinger 
[mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com<mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Nice. Very nice.

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that chose 
to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said tool was 
posting from his work account which made his comments all the more 
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things 
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain from 
acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.

All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain Tool 
of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise his 
employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For some 
reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool of all 
Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to show 
remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor Ready.  He 
was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the internal 
network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy that their 
company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the house at the time...

We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from 
again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce the 
attack surface...

A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study the 
LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...  Well, not 
to me anyway...


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger 
mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
?

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...  :D
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything 
beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being 
sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual usually then it 
help of some kind not attacks.

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

Jon
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
I think your moniker is we

Re: list delays

[Don Ely]

No, I don't have time to do what others are doing, but I'm humored by it.
On Mar 15, 2012 2:11 PM, "Jonathan Link"  wrote:

> While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining
> anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.
>
> Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the
> first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He
> voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the
> signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered
> to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on
> the community.  I know several who have interesting 
> username@gmail.comaddresses, but do put their real name, or what I think is 
> their real name
> out there.  Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex.  For all I know
> mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the
> community. (Sorry Ben!)
>
> I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't
> had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It
> appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown wrote:
>
>>  I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Nice. Very nice. 
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *Don Ely  
>>
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
>>
>> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
>> chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
>> tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
>> interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
>> security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
>> from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
>> Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise
>> his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For
>> some reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool
>> of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to
>> show remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor
>> Ready.  He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the
>> internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy
>> that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the
>> house at the time...
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard
>> from again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to
>> reduce the attack surface...
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study
>> the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...
>>  Well, not to me anyway...
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *Don Ely  
>>
>> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
>>
>> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
>>  :D
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
>> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
>> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individua

Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining
anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.

Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the
first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He
voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the
signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered
to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on
the community.  I know several who have interesting
username@gmail.comaddresses, but do put their real name, or what I
think is their real name
out there.  Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex.  For all I know
mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the
community. (Sorry Ben!)

I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't
had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It
appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown wrote:

>  I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>
>  ** **
>
> Nice. Very nice. 
>  --
>
> *From: *Don Ely  
>
> *Date: *Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700****
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>
> ** **
>
> For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
> chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
> tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
> interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
> security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
> from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
> Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise
> his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For
> some reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool
> of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to
> show remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor
> Ready.  He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the
> internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy
> that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the
> house at the time...
>
> ** **
>
> We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard
> from again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to
> reduce the attack surface...
>
> ** **
>
> A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study
> the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...
>  Well, not to me anyway...
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger 
> wrote:
>
> ?
>  --
>
> *From: *Don Ely  
>
> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>
> ** **
>
> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
>  :D
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:**
> **
>
> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>
>  
>
> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>
>  
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
> wrote:
>
>  I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
> see nothing wrong with gettin

RE: list delays

[Michael B. Smith]

It's only "all y'all" if y'all are talkin' to more than one "y'all". Like at 
the meetin' house, talkin' to the Deacons and the Church Wifes and the choir... 
each of them is a "y'all" but when you is referrin' to them all together it's 
"all y'all".

From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

NoIf it's plural, then it's "all y'alls".

"I'm better at toilet bowl horseshoes than all y'alls!"

Regards,

Don Guyer
Directory and Messaging Services
Catholic Health East, ITSS

From: Steven M. Caesare 
[mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]<mailto:[mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

It's not "all y'all"?

-sc

From: Erik Goldoff 
[mailto:egold...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:egold...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

no no NO !

The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

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From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com<mailto:rich...@gmail.com>]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
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No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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Re: list delays

[Michael Leone]

The plural of "y'all" is "all y'all", obviously  LOL

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, John Cook  wrote:
> It's like Chinese, plural is not Chineses
> John W. Cook
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>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
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>
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> The plural of y’all is y’all. Your mistake was that you concatenated it with
> a northernism. The proper phrase is
>
>
>
> “Geez louise, cain’t y’all idjits evah git anythin’ rite?�€
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> (s) Signed,
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> Mr. Suthren Pedant
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> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:44 AM
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> No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
>
> 
>
> From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> Don't you mean you-ens?
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster  wrote:
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> No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?
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Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

Well, in all fairness he did send it well before lunch.  The arrival time
is outside of his control.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Webster  wrote:

>  HEY I JUST ATE!
>
>
>
>  Carl Webster
>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:46 AM
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>   I’m sorry to hear of your woes.
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>
>
> Before long you’ll be very cynical looking… like this guy:
>
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RE: list delays

[Matthew B Ames]

And I am off for curry and beer (UK) :)

I shall look forward to tomorrow morning when I log back on to see how things 
have progressed!

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: 15 March 2012 17:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

HEY I JUST ATE!




Carl Webster

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From: Steven M. Caesare [scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:46 AM
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I'm sorry to hear of your woes.

Before long you'll be very cynical looking... like this guy:

[Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CD02A1.3DDA7690]

-sc


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Re: list delays

[Bill Humphries]

you could say "all y'all".

.John Cook wrote:

It's like Chinese, plural is not Chineses
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*From*: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]

*Sent*: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:40 AM
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The plural of y’all is y’all. Your mistake was that you concatenated 
it with a northernism. The proper phrase is


 


“Geez louise, cain’t y’all idjits evah git anythin’ rite?��

 


(s) Signed,

Mr. Suthren Pedant

 


*From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:44 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: list delays

 


No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.

 

 

 


Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>



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*Subject:* Re: list delays

Don't you mean you-ens?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster <mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:


No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything 
write?


 

 


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RE: list delays

[Jeff Brown]

I don't think "mr. anonymous" has crossed that line...

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Nice. Very nice.

From: Don Ely 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that chose 
to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said tool was 
posting from his work account which made his comments all the more 
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things 
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain from 
acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.

All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain Tool 
of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise his 
employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For some 
reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool of all 
Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to show 
remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor Ready.  He 
was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the internal 
network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy that their 
company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the house at the time...

We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from 
again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce the 
attack surface...

A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study the 
LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...  Well, not 
to me anyway...


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger 
mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
?

From: Don Ely mailto:don@gmail.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...  :D
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything 
beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being 
sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual usually then it 
help of some kind not attacks.

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

Jon
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very cynical. 
I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to speak to my 
employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, I'd see fit to go 
over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I come from a pretty 
grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to see nothing wrong with 
getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their 
own. I don't think anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", 
but I'm not worrying about it.

IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.

Signature will soon be gone.

Cheers,



JR
On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek 
mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or 
thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't 
make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.  However, 
after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the readers of the 
list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in berating and 
personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it past some or the 
"masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's 
employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the 
phone, via snail mail, etc.

This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on 
that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real 
name.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to give it 
a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty 
objectionable.  The list member

RE: list delays

[Richard McClary]

In parts of Oklahoma, “Y’alls” is pronounced “Y’all-zez”

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Good point.  "Y'alls" is the possessive improperly punctuated.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Erik Goldoff 
mailto:egold...@gmail.com>> wrote:
no no NO !

The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com<mailto:rich...@gmail.com>]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
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mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

Y'all are silly.  It's already plural.  Move along.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:

> Good point.  "Y'alls" is the possessive improperly punctuated.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
>
>> no no NO !
>>
>> The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster  wrote:
>>
>>>  No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Carl Webster
>>>
>>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>>
>>> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>>>  --
>>> *From:* Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
>>> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>>>
>>>  Don't you mean you-ens?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster wrote:
>>>
>>>>  No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything
>>>> write?
>>>>
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RE: list delays

[Guyer, Donald]

NoIf it's plural, then it's "all y'alls".

"I'm better at toilet bowl horseshoes than all y'alls!"

Regards,

Don Guyer
Directory and Messaging Services
Catholic Health East, ITSS

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

It's not "all y'all"?

-sc

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

no no NO !

The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

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From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com<mailto:rich...@gmail.com>]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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RE: list delays

[Webster]

HEY I JUST ATE!




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From: Steven M. Caesare [scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:46 AM
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I’m sorry to hear of your woes.

Before long you’ll be very cynical looking… like this guy:

[cid:image001.jpg@01CD02A1.3DDA7690]

-sc


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RE: list delays

[Kim Longenbaugh]

That you choose to be any kind of "wench" is somewhat disturbing.   Just sayin' 
 :)

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

I choose to be a pipe wench.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I thought you're a tool because you are one of "us"...   aren't we all tools on 
here?  :-)

--
Espi




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Rankin, James R 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
So now I am a tool cos of my signature?

Whatever. Back to sleep.
---Blackberried

From: cynicalg...@gmail.com<mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:09:52 -0400
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

And I'm the one that's called a tool?

I probably made money for you James.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Amit's better looking too.

Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I need to 
remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one to a 
guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was 
hilarious.

Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?

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RE: list delays

[Richard McClary]

Pretty good, but that last word should have been spelled "rat"

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:40 AM
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Subject: RE: list delays

The plural of y'all is y'all. Your mistake was that you concatenated it with a 
northernism. The proper phrase is

"Geez louise, cain't y'all idjits evah git anythin' rite?"

(s) Signed,
Mr. Suthren Pedant

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




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Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
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Re: list delays

[John Cook]

It's like Chinese, plural is not Chineses
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: list delays

The plural of y’all is y’all. Your mistake was that you concatenated it with a 
northernism. The proper phrase is

“Geez louise, cain’t y’all idjits evah git anythin’ rite?�

(s) Signed,
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Subject: RE: list delays

No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




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Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
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Re: list delays

[Gary Slinger]

Nice.  Very nice. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.

All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise
his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For
some reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool
of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to
show remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor
Ready.  He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the
internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy
that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the
house at the time...

We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from
again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce
the attack surface...

A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study
the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...
 Well, not to me anyway...



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger wrote:

> **
> ?
> --
> *From: * Don Ely 
> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>
> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
>  :D
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
>> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
>> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
>> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>>
>> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
>>> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
>>> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
>>> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
>>> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
>>> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
>>> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
>>> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>>>
>>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>>>
>>> Signature will soon be gone.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>
>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>
>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>> using my real name.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jo

Re: list delays

[Doug Hampshire]

;s out of 
>>>>>>> order we
>>>>>>> tend to see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if 
>>>>>>> necessary,
>>>>>>> and sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would 
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> that, though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signature will soon be gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>>>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>>>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>>>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put 
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) 
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack 
>>>>>>>> (verbally) in
>>>>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism
>>>>>>>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email 
>>>>>>>> address not
>>>>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I
>>>>>>>>> tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge 
>>>>>>>>> pictures,
>>>>>>>>> those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard 
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr 
>>>>>>>>> Rankin's
>>>>>>>>> long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my
>>>>>>>>> attention, either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr.
>>>>>>>>> Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to 
>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>> you to use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears
>>>>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek <
>>>>>>>>> cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first
>>>>>>>>>> and last name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask 
>>>>>>>>>> users not
>>>>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help
>>>>

Re: list delays

[Richard Stovall]

Good point.  "Y'alls" is the possessive improperly punctuated.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:

> no no NO !
>
> The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster  wrote:
>
>>  No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
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>> *From:* Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
>> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>>
>>  Don't you mean you-ens?
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster  wrote:
>>
>>>  No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything
>>> write?
>>>
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RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

It's not "all y'all"?

 

-sc

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

no no NO !

 

The plural of  "Y'all"   is "All Y'all"

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Webster 
wrote:

No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls. 

 

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/> 

____

From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: list delays

Don't you mean you-ens?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
wrote:

No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything
write? 

 

 

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RE: list delays

[Jeff Brown]

Talk about not having enough to do... where do I apply for that job? And get 
paid?  (not that I'd do that anyway.)

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

That's too far IMO.

From: Cynicalgeek 
[mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

And now somebody is filling out forms in my name and having local business call 
me for their services.

Real pros on here.

First porn, now you're making my phone ring with bogus requests.

Real pros.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Doug Hampshire 
mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Don't make me stop this car. Because I will and you can just sit there until 
you learn to behave.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Aww, but dad, we were having so much fun!
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Doug Hampshire 
mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I disconcur (unconcur, misconcur?) Over my also very long association with this 
and other techie lists (especially Peter's old Exchange list) I've found many, 
many things being taken offlist. Of course IIRC almost all of those things have 
involved consuming copious amount of adult beverages (and yes, we have actually 
caused certain bars to run out of specific brands of said beverages). Some of 
those offlist contacts have become lifelong friends (even unto death, RIP JRH, 
Mr. Houge, and Mr. Southworth). I've also worked with many of the same people 
either directly (various list members have worked for me before) or via various 
consulting arrangements.

That being said, there are no "masters" here. There is no secret cabal. I've 
only seen personal types of comments when A) they are actually good friends 
with the person and are just yanking their chain, or B) that person has been 
such a douche bag that it appears that it's the only way to get them to listen 
(most still don't).

Being a "real" person here has had a significant impact on my personal and 
professional life. If you think how you conduct yourself on some techie list 
doesn't matter, you are sadly mistaken. The good news is pretty much everyone 
I've personally encountered here and on other tech lists (probably 50-75 
people) are very forgiving and welcoming people. My recommendation is to be a 
Real Person (tm) and consider the feedback people give you. It also helps if 
you buy a round when you do meet list members in person. (For those that are 
not adept at grasping the scope of my advice here, I'm NOT speaking to Mr. 
Harris. I'm addressing multiple other offenders here. I just happened to pick 
his message to reply to.)
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything 
beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being 
sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual usually then it 
help of some kind not attacks.

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

Jon
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very cynical. 
I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to speak to my 
employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, I'd see fit to go 
over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I come from a pretty 
grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to see nothing wrong with 
getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their 
own. I don't think anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", 
but I'm not worrying about it.

IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.

Signature will soon be gone.

Cheers,



JR
On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek 
mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or 
thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't 
make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.  However, 
after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the readers of the 
list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in berating and 
personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it past some or the 
"masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's 
employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the 
phone, via snail mail, etc.

This list is still useful but there is a lot 

RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

"Try not to be so hard on the Beaver." - June Cleaver.

 

-sc

 

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

Ward Cleaver <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064604/> : Beaver, you know
what Larry was doing was wrong. You could have stopped him. 
Theodore "Beaver" Cleaver <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0558487/> : Gee,
Dad, I have enough trouble keeping myself good without keeping all the
other kids good. 

 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"




On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:46, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

Aww, but dad, we were having so much fun!

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Doug Hampshire 
wrote:

I disconcur (unconcur, misconcur?) Over my also very long association
with this and other techie lists (especially Peter's old Exchange list)
I've found many, many things being taken offlist. Of course IIRC almost
all of those things have involved consuming copious amount of adult
beverages (and yes, we have actually caused certain bars to run out of
specific brands of said beverages). Some of those offlist contacts have
become lifelong friends (even unto death, RIP JRH, Mr. Houge, and Mr.
Southworth). I've also worked with many of the same people either
directly (various list members have worked for me before) or via various
consulting arrangements. 

That being said, there are no "masters" here. There is no secret cabal.
I've only seen personal types of comments when A) they are actually good
friends with the person and are just yanking their chain, or B) that
person has been such a douche bag that it appears that it's the only way
to get them to listen (most still don't).

Being a "real" person here has had a significant impact on my personal
and professional life. If you think how you conduct yourself on some
techie list doesn't matter, you are sadly mistaken. The good news is
pretty much everyone I've personally encountered here and on other tech
lists (probably 50-75 people) are very forgiving and welcoming people.
My recommendation is to be a Real Person (tm) and consider the feedback
people give you. It also helps if you buy a round when you do meet list
members in person. (For those that are not adept at grasping the scope
of my advice here, I'm NOT speaking to Mr. Harris. I'm addressing
multiple other offenders here. I just happened to pick his message to
reply to.)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking
anything beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on
the list being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed
individual usually then it help of some kind not attacks.

 

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

 

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
wrote:

I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is
very cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw
fit to speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or
snail mail, I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it
out with them. I come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out
of order we tend to see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles,
if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think
anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not
worrying about it.

IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.

Signature will soon be gone.

Cheers,



JR

On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to
ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies
by other people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

 

You know I've considered using my real name on here
several times.  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this
list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters"
find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list.
I wouldn't put it past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody
up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B)
personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail
mail, etc.

 

This list is still useful but there is a lot of
unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my
'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name.

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link
 wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's
also 

RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

"There is no secret cabal"

 

Here? No.

 

-sc

 

From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

I disconcur (unconcur, misconcur?) Over my also very long association
with this and other techie lists (especially Peter's old Exchange list)
I've found many, many things being taken offlist. Of course IIRC almost
all of those things have involved consuming copious amount of adult
beverages (and yes, we have actually caused certain bars to run out of
specific brands of said beverages). Some of those offlist contacts have
become lifelong friends (even unto death, RIP JRH, Mr. Houge, and Mr.
Southworth). I've also worked with many of the same people either
directly (various list members have worked for me before) or via various
consulting arrangements. 

That being said, there are no "masters" here. There is no secret cabal.
I've only seen personal types of comments when A) they are actually good
friends with the person and are just yanking their chain, or B) that
person has been such a douche bag that it appears that it's the only way
to get them to listen (most still don't).

Being a "real" person here has had a significant impact on my personal
and professional life. If you think how you conduct yourself on some
techie list doesn't matter, you are sadly mistaken. The good news is
pretty much everyone I've personally encountered here and on other tech
lists (probably 50-75 people) are very forgiving and welcoming people.
My recommendation is to be a Real Person (tm) and consider the feedback
people give you. It also helps if you buy a round when you do meet list
members in person. (For those that are not adept at grasping the scope
of my advice here, I'm NOT speaking to Mr. Harris. I'm addressing
multiple other offenders here. I just happened to pick his message to
reply to.)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking
anything beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on
the list being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed
individual usually then it help of some kind not attacks.

 

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

 

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
wrote:

I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is
very cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw
fit to speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or
snail mail, I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it
out with them. I come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out
of order we tend to see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles,
if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think
anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not
worrying about it.

IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.

Signature will soon be gone.

Cheers,



JR

On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to
ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies
by other people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

 

You know I've considered using my real name on here
several times.  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this
list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters"
find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list.
I wouldn't put it past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody
up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B)
personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail
mail, etc.

 

This list is still useful but there is a lot of
unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my
'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name.

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link
 wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's
also funny, so I tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures
with huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable.  The list members
have come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their
signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't
stand out and cry for my attention, either.

 

Turning this on its head.  If you expect the
courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable
for someone to ask you to use

RE: list delays

[Michael B. Smith]

The plural of y'all is y'all. Your mistake was that you concatenated it with a 
northernism. The proper phrase is

"Geez louise, cain't y'all idjits evah git anythin' rite?"

(s) Signed,
Mr. Suthren Pedant

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: list delays
Don't you mean you-ens?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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Re: list delays

[Bill Humphries]

   Now someone is either
dreaming or you have had
way too many beers tonight
sir.
 
Jon


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at
1:39 AM, Don Ely
mailto:don@gmail.com>>
wrote:

And while were at it,
posts will only
accepted by the
listserv provided they
contain the
appropriate amount of
research has been
completed with
references included!


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012
at 9:55 PM, Gary
Slinger
mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Equally, if it
purged everyone
that doesn't post
with a cleartext
real-world name,
that would be a
good thing also.

--Original
Message--
From:
cynicalg...@gmail.com

<mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>
        To: NT System
Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list
delays
Sent: Mar 13, 2012
23:28

Personally I think
if the LISTSERV
would munge James
Rankins' email
signature on
demand we would
all be better off. ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2012,
at 9:37 PM, Bill
Humphries
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>>
wrote:

> wow.  4 hour
delays on
postings.  really,
this should be
fixed or ditch lyris.
>
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powerful endpoint
security that
ISN'T a resource
hog! ~
> ~

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Re: list delays

[Don Ely]

For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.

All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise
his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For
some reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool
of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to
show remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor
Ready.  He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the
internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy
that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the
house at the time...

We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from
again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce
the attack surface...

A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study
the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...
 Well, not to me anyway...



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger wrote:

> **
> ?
> --
> *From: * Don Ely 
> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>
> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
>  :D
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
>> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
>> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
>> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>>
>> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
>>> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
>>> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
>>> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
>>> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
>>> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
>>> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
>>> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>>>
>>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>>>
>>> Signature will soon be gone.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>
>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>
>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>> using my real name.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>&g

Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

gt;>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) 
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack 
>>>>>>> (verbally) in
>>>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism
>>>>>>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I
>>>>>>>> tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures,
>>>>>>>> those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr 
>>>>>>>> Rankin's
>>>>>>>> long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my
>>>>>>>> attention, either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek >>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first
>>>>>>>>> and last name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask 
>>>>>>>>> users not
>>>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris >>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many
>>>>>>>>>>> beers tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>

RE: list delays

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

What??? My opinion of you is now shattered Sean

Joe Heaton
ITB – Windows Server Support

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:37 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

My real name doesn't really have a 14 in it...

- Sean

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:54 PM, "Rankin, James R" 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
That is boring, though
---Blackberried

From: Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:05:18 -0400
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

You guys and gals are awesome.

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RE: list delays

[David Lum]

That's too far IMO.

From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

And now somebody is filling out forms in my name and having local business call 
me for their services.

Real pros on here.

First porn, now you're making my phone ring with bogus requests.

Real pros.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Doug Hampshire 
mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Don't make me stop this car. Because I will and you can just sit there until 
you learn to behave.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Aww, but dad, we were having so much fun!
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Doug Hampshire 
mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I disconcur (unconcur, misconcur?) Over my also very long association with this 
and other techie lists (especially Peter's old Exchange list) I've found many, 
many things being taken offlist. Of course IIRC almost all of those things have 
involved consuming copious amount of adult beverages (and yes, we have actually 
caused certain bars to run out of specific brands of said beverages). Some of 
those offlist contacts have become lifelong friends (even unto death, RIP JRH, 
Mr. Houge, and Mr. Southworth). I've also worked with many of the same people 
either directly (various list members have worked for me before) or via various 
consulting arrangements.

That being said, there are no "masters" here. There is no secret cabal. I've 
only seen personal types of comments when A) they are actually good friends 
with the person and are just yanking their chain, or B) that person has been 
such a douche bag that it appears that it's the only way to get them to listen 
(most still don't).

Being a "real" person here has had a significant impact on my personal and 
professional life. If you think how you conduct yourself on some techie list 
doesn't matter, you are sadly mistaken. The good news is pretty much everyone 
I've personally encountered here and on other tech lists (probably 50-75 
people) are very forgiving and welcoming people. My recommendation is to be a 
Real Person (tm) and consider the feedback people give you. It also helps if 
you buy a round when you do meet list members in person. (For those that are 
not adept at grasping the scope of my advice here, I'm NOT speaking to Mr. 
Harris. I'm addressing multiple other offenders here. I just happened to pick 
his message to reply to.)
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything 
beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being 
sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual usually then it 
help of some kind not attacks.

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

Jon
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very cynical. 
I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to speak to my 
employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, I'd see fit to go 
over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I come from a pretty 
grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to see nothing wrong with 
getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their 
own. I don't think anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", 
but I'm not worrying about it.

IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.

Signature will soon be gone.

Cheers,



JR
On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek 
mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or 
thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't 
make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.  However, 
after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the readers of the 
list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in berating and 
personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it past some or the 
"masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's 
employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the 
phone, via snail mail, etc.

This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on 
that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real 
name.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I te

Re: list delays

[Doug Hampshire]

 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) 
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack 
>>>>>>> (verbally) in
>>>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism
>>>>>>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I
>>>>>>>> tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures,
>>>>>>>> those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr 
>>>>>>>> Rankin's
>>>>>>>> long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my
>>>>>>>> attention, either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek >>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first
>>>>>>>>> and last name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask 
>>>>>>>>> users not
>>>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris >>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many
>>>>>>>>>>> beers tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

Re: list delays

[James Rankin]

;>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) 
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack 
>>>>>>> (verbally) in
>>>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism
>>>>>>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I
>>>>>>>> tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures,
>>>>>>>> those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr 
>>>>>>>> Rankin's
>>>>>>>> long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my
>>>>>>>> attention, either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek >>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first
>>>>>>>>> and last name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask 
>>>>>>>>> users not
>>>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris >>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many
>>>>>>>>>>> beers tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>&g

Re: list delays

[Steve Ens]

I choose to be a pipe wench.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought you're a tool because you are one of "us"...   aren't we all
> tools on here?  :-)
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Rankin, James R 
> wrote:
>
>> So now I am a tool cos of my signature?
>>
>> Whatever. Back to sleep.
>> ---Blackberried
>> --
>> *From: * cynicalg...@gmail.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:09:52 -0400
>> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>>
>> And I'm the one that's called a tool?
>>
>> I probably made money for you James.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>>
>>> Amit’s better looking too.
>>>
>>> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I
>> need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent
>> one to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it
>> was hilarious.
>>
>> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
>>
>> JR
>>
>> --
>> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
>>
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>>
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>> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must
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>> but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung,
>> drawn and quartered.
>>
>> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has
>> been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't
>> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so
>> I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions
>> are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit
>> of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that
>> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an
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>> emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my
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>> country name here"'s Got Talent.
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Re: list delays

[Cynicalgeek]

t;>>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) 
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism
>>>>>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I
>>>>>>> tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures,
>>>>>>> those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on
>>>>>>> people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr 
>>>>>>> Rankin's
>>>>>>> long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my
>>>>>>> attention, either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cleartext real-world name, that would be a go

Re: list delays

[Bill Humphries]

yeah, totally ironic.  that is why i posted it.

Steven M. Caesare wrote:


Then you don’t understand either irony, or the meaning behind Bill’s 
explanation.


 


-sc

 


*From:* cynicalg...@gmail.com [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:00 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Cc:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: list delays

 

Sarcasm meter it should be. 


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Jonathan Link <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:


So, the irony meter should be off the charts.  Good to know.

2012/3/14 Bill Humphries mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>>

Also, what is awesome is that the text is originally from Cicero
where he discusses how no one really wants pain or grief for the
sake of pain or grief.

Bill


Cynicalgeek wrote:

You guys and gals are awesome.

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Re: list delays

[William Robbins]

uot;masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) 
>>>>> in
>>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a
>>>>>>>>>>> cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Original Message--
>>>>>>>>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins'
>>>>>>>>>>> email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)

Re: list delays

[Doug Hampshire]

>
>>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>>> using my real name.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a
>>>>>>>>>>> cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Original Message--
>>>>>>>>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins'
>>>>>>>>>>> email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries <
>>>>>&

Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

unny, so I tend
>>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>>>>>>>>>> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Original Message--
>>>>>>>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins'
>>>>>>>>>> email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries <
>>>>>>>>>> nt...@hedgedigger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed
>>>>>>>>>> or ditch lyris.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
>>>>>>>>>> hog! ~
>>>>>>>>>> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>
>>>>>>>>>>  ~
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > ---
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>>>>>>>>>> http://l

RE: list delays

[Webster]

No, I should have use the proper plural southern word - y'alls.




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: list delays

Don't you mean you-ens?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?



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Re: list delays

[Doug Hampshire]

ct the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>> last name.
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>>>>>>>>> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Original Message--
>>>>>>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins'
>>>>>>>>> email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed
>>>>>>>>> or ditch lyris.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!
>>>>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>>>> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > ---
>>>>>>>>> > To manage subscriptions click here:
>>>>>>>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>>>>>>>> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>>>>>>>> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>>>>>>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>>>>>>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>>>>>>>> with the body: un

Re: list delays

[Richard Stovall]

Don't you mean you-ens?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Webster  wrote:

>  No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything
> write?
>
>
>
>  Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>  --
> *From:* Maglinger, Paul [pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:14 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: list delays
>
>   What?  That you’re Batman?  We found that out years ago.  Shookie told
> us.
>
>
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:19 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: list delays
>
>
>
> I also make it extremely difficult for anyone to track me down.  I
> obfuscate all my online info.  That is why no one will ever know my true
> identity!
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

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RE: list delays

[David Lum]

Whatever you say Al Gore.

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

I also make it extremely difficult for anyone to track me down.  I obfuscate 
all my online info.  That is why no one will ever know my true identity!


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:don@gmail.com]>
Subject: Re: list delays

Pshaw!  I'm anonymous behind this email address!!!

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RE: list delays

[Mayo, Bill]

Yeah, obviously. Batman loves Carolina barbecue.  (Sorry, couldn't help
myself.)

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

 

No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything
write? 

 

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/> 



From: Maglinger, Paul [pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

What?  That you're Batman?  We found that out years ago.  Shookie told
us.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

 

I also make it extremely difficult for anyone to track me down.  I
obfuscate all my online info.  That is why no one will ever know my true
identity!  

 

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RE: list delays

[Webster]

No, I'm batty, not batman!  Sheez can't yuse people ever get anything write?




Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Maglinger, Paul [pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

What?  That you’re Batman?  We found that out years ago.  Shookie told us.

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: list delays

I also make it extremely difficult for anyone to track me down.  I obfuscate 
all my online info.  That is why no one will ever know my true identity!


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RE: list delays

[Maglinger, Paul]

I can’t believe someone beat me to that!

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Yeah whatever Bruce Wayne.

- Sean

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
I also make it extremely difficult for anyone to track me down.  I obfuscate 
all my online info.  That is why no one will ever know my true identity!


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:don@gmail.com]>
Subject: Re: list delays

Pshaw!  I'm anonymous behind this email address!!!

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Re: list delays

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I thought you're a tool because you are one of "us"...   aren't we all
tools on here?  :-)

--
Espi




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Rankin, James R wrote:

> So now I am a tool cos of my signature?
>
> Whatever. Back to sleep.
> ---Blackberried
> --
> *From: * cynicalg...@gmail.com
> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:09:52 -0400
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>
> And I'm the one that's called a tool?
>
> I probably made money for you James.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>
>> Amit’s better looking too.
>>
>> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I
> need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent
> one to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it
> was hilarious.
>
> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
>
> JR
>
> --
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
>
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
>
> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and
> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with
> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK
> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must
> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent,
> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted,
> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm
> animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent
> minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent
> in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but
> it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of
> said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway,
> but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung,
> drawn and quartered.
>
> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been
> sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't
> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so
> I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions
> are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit
> of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that
> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an
> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would
> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible
> for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some
> level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in
> some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward
> disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be
> unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell
> makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement
> immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the
> sender immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending
> emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my
> status as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of
> my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert
> country name here"'s Got Talent.
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Re: list delays

[Rankin, James R]

So now I am a tool cos of my signature?

Whatever. Back to sleep.

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:09:52 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

And I'm the one that's called a tool?

I probably made money for you James. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
> Amit’s better looking too.
> 
> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I need to 
> remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one to a 
> guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was 
> hilarious.
> 
> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
> 
> JR
> 
> -- 
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
> 
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
> 
> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and 
> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with 
> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK 
> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must 
> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, 
> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, 
> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals 
> or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority 
> (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of 
> this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long 
> shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email 
> guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd 
> forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and 
> quartered.
> 
> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been 
> sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't 
> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm 
> glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are 
> expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of 
> expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that 
> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an 
> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would 
> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
> 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
> you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering 
> it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some level of 
> unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in some sort of 
> fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward disclose or 
> otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful, and 
> as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell makes you quake 
> in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement immediately. If you 
> receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. That 
> would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending emails to completely the 
> wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my status as a technical 
> consultant and sent to do something more becoming of my stupidity, such as 
> appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert country name here"'s Got 
> Talent.
> 
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> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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Re: list delays

[Jon Harris]

Sorry I have never been on the Exchange list.  The Windows Client and NT
Sys Admin lists have been my choices thus far.  I have been lucky/unlucky
and never touched Exchange directly only used the clients.

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Don Ely  wrote:

> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
>  :D
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
>> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
>> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
>> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>>
>> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
>>> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
>>> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
>>> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
>>> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
>>> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
>>> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
>>> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>>>
>>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>>>
>>> Signature will soon be gone.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>
>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>
>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>> using my real name.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>> NOTHING

Re: list delays

[Gary Slinger]

?

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely 
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
 :D

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>
> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin wrote:
>
>> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
>> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
>> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
>> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
>> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
>> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
>> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
>> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>>
>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>>
>> Signature will soon be gone.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>
>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>
>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>> using my real name.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>> last name.
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>

Re: list delays

[Don Ely]

I told him to stop being a tool...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Gary Slinger wrote:

> **
> He was. Not inappropriate.
> --
> *From: * Jonathan Link 
> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:45:18 -0400
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *Re: list delays
>
> Didn't see anyone call you a tool...
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:09 PM,  wrote:
>
>> And I'm the one that's called a tool?
>>
>> I probably made money for you James.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>>
>>> Amit’s better looking too.
>>>
>>> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I
>> need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent
>> one to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it
>> was hilarious.
>>
>> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
>>
>> JR
>>
>> --
>> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
>>
>> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
>>
>> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and
>> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with
>> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK
>> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must
>> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent,
>> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted,
>> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm
>> animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent
>> minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent
>> in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but
>> it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of
>> said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway,
>> but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung,
>> drawn and quartered.
>>
>> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has
>> been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't
>> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so
>> I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions
>> are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit
>> of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that
>> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an
>> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would
>> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
>>
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible
>> for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some
>> level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in
>> some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward
>> disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be
>> unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell
>> makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement
>> immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the
>> sender immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending
>> emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my
>> status as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of
>> my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert
>> country name here"'s Got Talent.
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>> ~ Fi

Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

I thought he wanted to BE WonderBoy...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM, William Robbins wrote:

> Really I'm just curious about his days as "WonderBoy."
>
>  - WJR
> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 18:52, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
>
>> Too bad… he’ll drive less traffic to his site:
>> http://www.pinnacletechs.com/
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:16 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> And maybe you hid your Linked In profile...   We see what you did there.
>>
>> --
>> Espi
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Cynicalgeek 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>
>> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
>> for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>  - WJR
>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds
>> or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just
>> doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>> using my real name.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to
>> give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are
>> pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with
>> huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah,
>> but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.*
>> ***
>>
>>  
>>
>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.***
>> *
>>
>>  
>>
>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
>> wrote:
>>
>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last
>> name.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight
>> sir.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don E

RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

Well... maybe not _ALL_.

 

-sc

 

From: cynicalg...@gmail.com [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

Yes we are geographically linked is all. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:23 PM, William Robbins  wrote:

Curiously your, er maybe, LinkedIn profile went down shortly after I 
posted it though.
And was linked to Mr. Aldrich...just curious is all.

- WJR

On Mar 14, 2012 4:19 PM, "Cynicalgeek"  wrote:

Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins  
wrote:

I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...

1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director 
for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy. 
cynicalg...@gmail.com


 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  
wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore 
it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other 
people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

 

You know I've considered using my real name on here several 
times.  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the 
readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in 
berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it past 
some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list 
member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life 
over the phone, via snail mail, etc.

 

This list is still useful but there is a lot of 
unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' 
email address not using my real name.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
 wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also 
funny, so I tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge 
pictures, those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard 
on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's 
long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, 
either.

 

Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy 
of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to 
ask you to use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears 
legitimate.

 

Community is built when people "know" who their peers 
are.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
 wrote:

#1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my 
real first and last name.

 

#2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge 
the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.

 

#3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that 
would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost members of 
the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely 
 wrote:

1 demerit for you sir!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris 
 wrote:

Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too 
many beers tonight sir.

 

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely 
 wrote:

And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the 
listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
completed with references included!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger 
 wrote:

Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a 
cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also.


--Original Message--
    From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays
S

RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

The bat from The Natural?

 

-sc

 

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

Really I'm just curious about his days as "WonderBoy."

 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 18:52, Steven M. Caesare 
wrote:

Too bad... he'll drive less traffic to his site:
http://www.pinnacletechs.com/

 

-sc

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:16 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: list delays

 

And maybe you hid your Linked In profile...   We see what you did there.

--
Espi

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins 
wrote:

I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...

1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
cynicalg...@gmail.com




 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

 

You know I've considered using my real name on here several
times.  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list
treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find
enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I
wouldn't put it past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up
and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B)
personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail
mail, etc.

 

This list is still useful but there is a lot of
unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my
'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link
 wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also
funny, so I tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with
huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have
come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their
signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't
stand out and cry for my attention, either.

 

Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of
Mr. Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone
to ask you to use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears
legitimate.

 

Community is built when people "know" who their peers
are.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek
 wrote:

#1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my
real first and last name.

 

#2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge
the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently
ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.

 

#3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that
would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost
members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely
 wrote:

1 demerit for you sir!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris
 wrote:

Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too
many beers tonight sir.

 

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely
 wrote:

And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the
listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has
been completed with references included!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger
 wrote:

Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a
cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also.


        ------Original Message--
From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays
Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28

Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James
Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)

Sent from my iPho

Re: list delays

[cynicalgeek]

I'm done. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:56 PM, "Steve Hanna"  wrote:

> 
> Dude let it go. Stop poking it with a stick.
> --steve
> 
> 
> Sent with BlackBerry
> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:09:52 -0400
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: list delays
> 
> And I'm the one that's called a tool?
> 
> I probably made money for you James. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>> Amit’s better looking too.
>> 
>> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I need 
>> to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one 
>> to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was 
>> hilarious.
>> 
>> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>> -- 
>> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
>> 
>> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
>> 
>> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and 
>> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with 
>> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK 
>> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must 
>> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, 
>> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, 
>> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm 
>> animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent 
>> minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in 
>> or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but 
>> it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of 
>> said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, 
>> but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, 
>> drawn and quartered.
>> 
>> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been 
>> sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't 
>> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm 
>> glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are 
>> expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of 
>> expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that 
>> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an 
>> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would 
>> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
>> 
>> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
>> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 
>> If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for 
>> delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some 
>> level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in 
>> some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward 
>> disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be 
>> unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell 
>> makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement 
>> immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender 
>> immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending emails 
>> to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my status 
>> as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of my 
>> stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert country 
>> name here"'s Got Talent.
>> 
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>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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Re: list delays

[Don Ely]

Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
 :D

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>
> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin wrote:
>
>> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
>> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
>> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
>> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
>> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
>> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
>> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
>> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>>
>> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>>
>> Signature will soon be gone.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>
>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>
>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>> using my real name.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>> last name.
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 a

Re: list delays

[Gary Slinger]

He was.  Not inappropriate. 
-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link 
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:45:18 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

Didn't see anyone call you a tool...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:09 PM,  wrote:

> And I'm the one that's called a tool?
>
> I probably made money for you James.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>
>> Amit’s better looking too.
>>
>> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I
> need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent
> one to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it
> was hilarious.
>
> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
>
> JR
>
> --
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
>
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
>
> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and
> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with
> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK
> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must
> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent,
> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted,
> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm
> animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent
> minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent
> in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but
> it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of
> said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway,
> but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung,
> drawn and quartered.
>
> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been
> sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't
> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so
> I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions
> are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit
> of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that
> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an
> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would
> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible
> for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some
> level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in
> some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward
> disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be
> unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell
> makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement
> immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the
> sender immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending
> emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my
> status as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of
> my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert
> country name here"'s Got Talent.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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Re: list delays

[Gary Slinger]

Which is a confirmation of your ID and profile(s) posted earlier. 

So you may as well change your display name now, eh?

-Original Message-
From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:17:09 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Cc: 
NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Yes we are geographically linked is all. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:23 PM, William Robbins  wrote:

> Curiously your, er maybe, LinkedIn profile went down shortly after I posted 
> it though.
> And was linked to Mr. Aldrich...just curious is all.
> 
> - WJR
> 
> On Mar 14, 2012 4:19 PM, "Cynicalgeek"  wrote:
> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins  wrote:
> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
> 
> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director for 
> local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy. 
> cynicalg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>  - WJR
> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or 
> thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just 
> doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
> 
> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.  However, 
> after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the readers of the 
> list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in berating and 
> personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it past some or the 
> "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's 
> employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over 
> the phone, via snail mail, etc.
> 
> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes 
> on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my 
> real name.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link  
> wrote:
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to give 
> it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty 
> objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with huge 
> graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah, but 
> it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.
>  
> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming 
> his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your 
> real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>  
> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last name.
> 
> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long signature, I 
> should have said that list owners should gently ask users not to use 
> signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
> 
> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the community 
> of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list NOTHING and 
> improve the service of the list.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
> 1 demerit for you sir!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight sir.
>  
> Jon
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided they 
> contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with references 
> included!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger  wrote:
> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world 
> name, that would be a good thing also.
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
> 
> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature 
> on demand we would all be better off. ;)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries  wrote:
> 
> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed or ditch 
> > lyris.
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoft

Re: list delays

[cynicalgeek]

And now you sign me up for porn emails.  You are a bunch of pros. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:59 PM, "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote:

> This view still works for me:
>  
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=28283161&authType=name&authToken=BQXh&locale=en_US&pvs=pp&pohelp=&trk=ndir_viewmore
>  
> -sc
>  
>  
>  
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: list delays
>  
> Wasn't much to see. 
> 
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012, Webster  wrote:
> > Profile is now gone.
> >
> > Carl Webster
> >
> > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> >
> > http://www.CarlWebster.com
> >
> > From: William Robbins 
> > Subject: Re: list delays
> >
> > Not according to his LinkedIn profile:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/lbrownlee
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
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> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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> 
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Re: list delays

[John Cook]

PeeWee!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 06:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: list delays

I also make it extremely difficult for anyone to track me down.  I obfuscate 
all my online info.  That is why no one will ever know my true identity!


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: list delays

Pshaw!  I'm anonymous behind this email address!!!

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Re: list delays

[William Robbins]

Really I'm just curious about his days as "WonderBoy."

 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 18:52, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> Too bad… he’ll drive less traffic to his site:
> http://www.pinnacletechs.com/
>
> ** **
>
> -sc
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:16 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: list delays
>
> ** **
>
> And maybe you hid your Linked In profile...   We see what you did there.
>
> --
> Espi
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Cynicalgeek 
> wrote:
>
> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins 
> wrote:
>
> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>
> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director for
> local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>
> 
>
>
>  - WJR
> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:*
> ***
>
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds
> or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just
> doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>
> ** **
>
> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>
> ** **
>
> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
> using my real name.
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to
> give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are
> pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with
> huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah,
> but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.**
> **
>
>  
>
> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>
>  
>
> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
> wrote:
>
> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last
> name.
>
> ** **
>
> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>
> ** **
>
> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>
> 1 demerit for you sir!
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:*
> ***
>
> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight
> sir.
>
>  
>
> Jon****
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>
> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided
> they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with
> references included!
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger 
> wrote:
>
> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>
>
> --Original Message--
> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>
> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James 

Re: list delays

[Steve Hanna]

Dude let it go. Stop poking it with a stick.
--steve



Sent with BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:09:52 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: list delays

And I'm the one that's called a tool?

I probably made money for you James. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
> Amit’s better looking too.
> 
> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I need to 
> remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one to a 
> guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was 
> hilarious.
> 
> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
> 
> JR
> 
> -- 
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
> 
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
> 
> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and 
> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with 
> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK 
> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must 
> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, 
> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, 
> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals 
> or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority 
> (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of 
> this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long 
> shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email 
> guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd 
> forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and 
> quartered.
> 
> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been 
> sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't 
> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm 
> glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are 
> expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of 
> expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that 
> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an 
> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would 
> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
> 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
> you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering 
> it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some level of 
> unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in some sort of 
> fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward disclose or 
> otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful, and 
> as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell makes you quake 
> in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement immediately. If you 
> receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. That 
> would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending emails to completely the 
> wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my status as a technical 
> consultant and sent to do something more becoming of my stupidity, such as 
> appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert country name here"'s Got 
> Talent.
> 
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Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

Didn't see anyone call you a tool...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:09 PM,  wrote:

> And I'm the one that's called a tool?
>
> I probably made money for you James.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>
>> Amit’s better looking too.
>>
>> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I
> need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent
> one to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it
> was hilarious.
>
> Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?
>
> JR
>
> --
> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com
>
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
>
> I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and
> received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with
> anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK
> legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must
> never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent,
> sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted,
> amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm
> animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent
> minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent
> in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but
> it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of
> said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway,
> but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung,
> drawn and quartered.
>
> I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been
> sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't
> responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so
> I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions
> are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit
> of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that
> statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an
> opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would
> provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible
> for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some
> level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in
> some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward
> disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be
> unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell
> makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement
> immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the
> sender immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending
> emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my
> status as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of
> my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or "insert
> country name here"'s Got Talent.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
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RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

James, you pimp you!

 

-sc

 

From: cynicalg...@gmail.com [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

And I'm the one that's called a tool?

 

I probably made money for you James. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin  wrote:

 

On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

Amit’s better looking too.

 

Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I 
need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one 
to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was 
hilarious.

Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?

JR

-- 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com

IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER

I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and 
received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with anyone's 
policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK legislation 
there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must never send or 
store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, sexist, racist, 
defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, amusing, overly long, 
slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals or hurt the feelings of 
an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority (such as extraterrestrial 
eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of this account may be 
intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long shot. This being the UK, 
even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email guidelines, I'd probably walk 
with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, 
I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and quartered.

I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has 
been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't 
responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm 
glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are 
expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of 
expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that 
statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an 
opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would 
provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't.

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are 
addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for 
delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some level 
of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in some sort of 
fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward disclose or otherwise 
use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful, and as you're 
already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell makes you quake in your 
boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement immediately. If you receive 
this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. That would be me, 
and as I am clearly prone to sending emails to completely the wrong person, I 
should instantly be stripped of my status as a technical consultant and sent to 
do something more becoming of my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, 
the X Factor or "insert country name here"'s Got Talent.

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Re: list delays

[Sean Martin]

My real name doesn't really have a 14 in it...

- Sean

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:54 PM, "Rankin, James R"  wrote:

> That is boring, though
> ---Blackberried
> From: Cynicalgeek 
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:05:18 -0400
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: list delays
> 
> You guys and gals are awesome.
> 
> BEGIN SIG
> "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Maecenas porttitor 
> congue massa. Fusce posuere, magna sed pulvinar ultricies, purus lectus 
> malesuada libero, sit amet commodo magna eros quis urna. Nunc viverra 
> imperdiet enim. Fusce est. Vivamus a tellus. Pellentesque habitant morbi 
> tristique senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Proin 
> pharetra nonummy pede. Mauris et orci. Aenean nec lorem. In porttitor. Donec 
> laoreet nonummy augue. Suspendisse dui purus, scelerisque at, vulputate 
> vitae, pretium mattis, nunc. Mauris eget neque at sem venenatis eleifend. Ut 
> nonummy. Fusce aliquet pede non pede. Suspendisse dapibus lorem pellentesque 
> magna. Integer nulla. Donec blandit feugiat ligula. Donec hendrerit, felis et 
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> posuere, metus quam iaculis nibh, vitae scelerisque nunc massa eget pede. Sed 
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> commodo. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, 
> nascetur ridiculus mus. Cras faucibus condimentum odio. Sed ac ligula. 
> Aliquam at eros. Etiam at ligula et tellus ullamcorper ultrices. In 
> fermentum, lorem non cursus porttitor, diam urna accumsan lacus, sed interdum 
> wisi nibh nec nisl.
> Ut tincidunt volutpat urna. Mauris eleifend nulla eget mauris. Sed cursus 
> quam id felis. Curabitur posuere quam vel nibh. Cras dapibus dapibus nisl. 
> Vestibulum quis dolor a felis congue vehicula. Maecenas pede purus, tristique 
> ac, tempus eget, egestas quis, mauris. Curabitur non eros. Nullam hendrerit 
> bibendum justo. Fusce iaculis, est quis lacinia pretium, pede metus molestie 
> lacus, at gravida wisi ante at libero. Quisque ornare placerat risus. Ut 
> molestie magna at mi. Integer aliquet mauris et nibh. Ut mattis ligula 
> posuere velit. Nunc sagittis. Curabitur varius fringilla nisl. Duis pretium 
> mi euismod erat. Maecenas id augue. Nam vulputate. Duis a quam non neque 
> lobortis malesuada. Praesent euismod. Donec nulla augue, venenatis 
> scelerisque, dapibus a, consequat at, leo. Pellentesque libero lectus, 
> tristique ac, consectetuer sit amet, imperdiet ut, justo. Sed aliquam odio 
> vitae tortor. Proin hendrerit tempus arcu. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. 
> Suspendisse potenti. Vivamus vitae massa adipiscing est lacinia sodales. 
> Donec metus massa, mollis vel, tempus placerat, vestibulum condimentum, 
> ligula. Nunc lacus metus, posuere eget, lacinia eu, varius quis, libero. 
> Aliquam nonummy adipiscing augue. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer 
> adipiscing elit. Maecenas porttitor congue massa. Fusce posuere, magna sed 
> pulvinar ultricies, purus lectus malesuada libero, sit amet commodo magna 
> eros quis urna. Nunc viverra imperdiet enim. Fusce est. Vivamus a tellus. 
> Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac 
> turpis egestas. Proin pharetra nonummy pede. Mauris et orci. Aenean nec 
> lorem. In porttitor. Donec laoreet nonummy augue. Suspendisse dui purus, 
> scelerisque at, vulputate vitae, pretium mattis, nunc. Mauris eget neque at 
> sem venenatis eleifend. Ut nonummy. Fusce aliquet pede non pede. Suspendisse 
> dapibus lorem pellentesque magna. Integer nulla. Donec blandit feugiat ligula.
> 
> Donec hendrerit, feli

Re: list delays

[cynicalgeek]

Yes we are geographically linked is all. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:23 PM, William Robbins  wrote:

> Curiously your, er maybe, LinkedIn profile went down shortly after I posted 
> it though.
> And was linked to Mr. Aldrich...just curious is all.
> 
> - WJR
> 
> On Mar 14, 2012 4:19 PM, "Cynicalgeek"  wrote:
> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins  wrote:
> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
> 
> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director for 
> local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy. 
> cynicalg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>  - WJR
> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or 
> thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just 
> doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
> 
> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.  However, 
> after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the readers of the 
> list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in berating and 
> personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it past some or the 
> "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's 
> employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over 
> the phone, via snail mail, etc.
> 
> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes 
> on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my 
> real name.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link  
> wrote:
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to give 
> it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty 
> objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with huge 
> graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah, but 
> it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.
>  
> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming 
> his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your 
> real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>  
> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last name.
> 
> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long signature, I 
> should have said that list owners should gently ask users not to use 
> signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
> 
> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the community 
> of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list NOTHING and 
> improve the service of the list.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
> 1 demerit for you sir!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight sir.
>  
> Jon
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided they 
> contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with references 
> included!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger  wrote:
> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world 
> name, that would be a good thing also.
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
> 
> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature 
> on demand we would all be better off. ;)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries  wrote:
> 
> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed or ditch 
> > lyris.
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here: 
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that

RE: list delays

[Mathew Shember]

Excuse me while I go poke out my mind's eye.


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

We're all naked underneath our clothes...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 13:22, Don Ely  wrote:
> Pshaw!  I'm anonymous behind this email address!!!
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Kennedy, Jim 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Dang it, I was going to do that but had to go to a meeting. Well done sir.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:37 PM
>>
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>
>> 1993     Lawrence Brownlee     Trombone     Dalton, GA     IT 
>> Director for local law firm     Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>  - WJR
>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it 
>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by 
>> other people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>
>>
>>
>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat 
>> the readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find 
>> enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  
>> I wouldn't put it past some or the "masters" to actually look 
>> somebody up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, 
>> or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail 
>> mail, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism 
>> that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email 
>> address not using my real name.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend 
>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, 
>> those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard 
>> on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr 
>> Rankin's long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my 
>> attention, either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin 
>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask 
>> you to use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
>> wrote:
>>
>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and 
>> last name.
>>
>>
>>
>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long 
>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask 
>> users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>
>>
>>
>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the 
>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the 
>> list NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>>
>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers 
>> tonight sir.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv 
>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>> completed with references included!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext 
>> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>
>>
>> --Original Message--
>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Repl

Re: list delays

[Jon Harris]

In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
usually then it help of some kind not attacks.

BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin  wrote:

> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>
> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>
> Signature will soon be gone.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> JR
>
> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds
>> or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just
>> doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>
>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>
>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>> using my real name.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to
>>> give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are
>>> pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with
>>> huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah,
>>> but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.
>>>
>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>
>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>
>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>> last name.
>>>>
>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>
>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>> gary.slin

Re: list delays

[William Robbins]

That's alright, at least the Facebook page is still up.

http://www.facebook.com/pinnacletechs

Lawrence Brownlee
CEO Pinnacle IT Consulting
Location
Dalton, Georgia (Chattanooga, Tennessee Area)
Industry
Information Technology and Services

.sig- Please delete my email address or any sender's email address(es) if
sharing with others. Thanks




 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 16:22, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Strange that someone with that name suddenly deleted his LinkedIn profile.
>
> Seriously?
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>
>> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>>
>>> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
>>> for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>  - WJR
>>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>>
>>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>>
>>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>>> using my real name.
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>>> last name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>
&

RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

Too bad... he'll drive less traffic to his site:
http://www.pinnacletechs.com/

 

-sc

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

 

And maybe you hid your Linked In profile...   We see what you did there.

--
Espi

 





On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins 
wrote:

I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...

1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
cynicalg...@gmail.com




 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

 

You know I've considered using my real name on here several
times.  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list
treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find
enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I
wouldn't put it past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up
and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B)
personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail
mail, etc.

 

This list is still useful but there is a lot of
unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my
'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link
 wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also
funny, so I tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with
huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have
come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their
signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't
stand out and cry for my attention, either.

 

Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of
Mr. Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone
to ask you to use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears
legitimate.

 

Community is built when people "know" who their peers
are.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek
 wrote:

#1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my
real first and last name.

 

#2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge
the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently
ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.

 

#3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that
would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost
members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely
 wrote:

1 demerit for you sir!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris
 wrote:

Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too
many beers tonight sir.

 

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely
 wrote:

And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the
listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has
been completed with references included!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger
 wrote:

Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a
cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also.


--Original Message------
        From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays
Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28

Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James
Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries
 wrote:

> wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should
be fixed or ditch lyris.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a
resource hog! ~
> ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> 

Re: list delays

[Jon Harris]

Ah well...

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:

> 1 demerit for you sir!
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight
>> sir.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided
>>> they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with
>>> references included!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>>>> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>>>
>>>> --Original Message--
>>>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email
>>>> signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed or
>>>> ditch lyris.
>>>> >
>>>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>>> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>> >
>>>> > ---
>>>> > To manage subscriptions click here:
>>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>>> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>>> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>>
>>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>
>>> ---
>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: list delays

[Mathew Shember]

Now that is funny.


From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays

Profile is now gone.



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: William Robbins mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: list delays

Not according to his LinkedIn profile:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/lbrownlee



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com>
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: list delays

[Steven M. Caesare]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Google's handing out duplicate email addresses.

 

-sc

 

From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays
Importance: High

 

Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins 
wrote:

I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...

1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
cynicalg...@gmail.com


 - WJR
"Don't let the T-shirt fool you"




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek 
wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.

 

You know I've considered using my real name on here several
times.  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list
treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find
enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I
wouldn't put it past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up
and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B)
personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail
mail, etc.

 

This list is still useful but there is a lot of
unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my
'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link
 wrote:

It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also
funny, so I tend to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with
huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable.  The list members have
come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their
signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't
stand out and cry for my attention, either.

 

Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of
Mr. Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone
to ask you to use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears
legitimate.

 

Community is built when people "know" who their peers
are.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek
 wrote:

#1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my
real first and last name.

 

#2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge
the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently
ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.

 

#3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that
would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost
members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list.

 

 

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely
 wrote:

1 demerit for you sir!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris
 wrote:

Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too
many beers tonight sir.

 

Jon

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely
 wrote:

And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the
listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has
been completed with references included!

 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger
 wrote:

Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a
cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also.


--Original Message--
    From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays
Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28

Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James
Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries
 wrote:

> wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should
be fixed or ditch lyris.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a
resource hog! ~
> ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_for

Re: list delays

[Kurt Buff]

We're all naked underneath our clothes...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 13:22, Don Ely  wrote:
> Pshaw!  I'm anonymous behind this email address!!!
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Kennedy, Jim
>  wrote:
>>
>> Dang it, I was going to do that but had to go to a meeting. Well done sir.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:37 PM
>>
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: list delays
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>
>> 1993     Lawrence Brownlee     Trombone     Dalton, GA     IT Director for
>> local law firm     Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>  - WJR
>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds
>> or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just
>> doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>
>>
>>
>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call a
>> list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using
>> my real name.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to
>> give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are
>> pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with
>> huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah,
>> but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek 
>> wrote:
>>
>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last
>> name.
>>
>>
>>
>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>
>>
>>
>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>>
>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight
>> sir.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided
>> they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with
>> references included!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>>
>>
>> --Original Message--
>> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: list delays
>> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>>
>> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email
>> signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
>>
>> Sent fro

Re: list delays

[Jonathan Link]

Time to update my sunbelt ntsysadmin filter.

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
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Re: list delays

[Bill Humphries]

t and cry for my attention, either.
 
Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy

of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature,  why is it
unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your real
name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
 
Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek
mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

#1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use
my real first and last name.

#2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should
munge the long signature, I should have said that
list owners should gently ask users not to use
signatures that are incredibly long and useless.

#3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions
that would help the community of this
list...solutions that would cost members of the
list NOTHING and improve the service of the list.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely
mailto:don@gmail.com>> wrote:

1 demerit for you sir!


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now someone is either dreaming or you have
had way too many beers tonight sir.
 
Jon


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely
mailto:don@gmail.com>> wrote:

And while were at it, posts will only
accepted by the listserv provided they
contain the appropriate amount of
research has been completed with
references included!


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary
Slinger mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Equally, if it purged everyone
that doesn't post with a cleartext
real-world name, that would be a
good thing also.

--Original Message--
From: cynicalg...@gmail.com
        <mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com>
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: list delays
Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28

Personally I think if the LISTSERV
would munge James Rankins' email
signature on demand we would all
be better off. ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill
Humphries mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:

> wow.  4 hour delays on postings.
 really, this should be fixed or
ditch lyris.
>
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> ~

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Re: list delays

[William Robbins]

Curiously your, er maybe, LinkedIn profile went down shortly after I posted
it though.
And was linked to Mr. Aldrich...just curious is all.

- WJR
On Mar 14, 2012 4:19 PM, "Cynicalgeek"  wrote:

> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>
>> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
>> for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>  - WJR
>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>
>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>
>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>> using my real name.
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>> last name.
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>

Re: list delays

[William Robbins]

Just trying to demonstrate the futility of hiding on the Internet. Not like
I put much effort forth. Personally I don't care what your name is.

- WJR
On Mar 14, 2012 4:19 PM, "Cynicalgeek"  wrote:

> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>
>> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
>> for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>  - WJR
>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>
>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>
>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>> using my real name.
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>> last name.
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cl

Re: list delays

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

And maybe you hid your Linked In profile...   We see what you did there.

--
Espi




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Cynicalgeek  wrote:

> Maybe you have me, maybe you don't.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity...
>>
>> 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director
>> for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy.
>> cynicalg...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>  - WJR
>> "Don't let the T-shirt fool you"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek  wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it
>>> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other
>>> people just doesn't make any sense to me.  Butwhatever.
>>>
>>> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>>>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
>>> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
>>> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
>>> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
>>> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
>>> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>>>
>>> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
>>> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
>>> using my real name.
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <
>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend
>>>> to give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those
>>>> are pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people
>>>> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?
>>>> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
>>>> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
>>>> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and
>>>>> last name.
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
>>>>> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
>>>>> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
>>>>> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
>>>>> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 demerit for you sir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers
>>>>>>> tonight sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv
>>>>>>>> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been 
>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>> with references included!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <
>>>>>>>> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
>>>>>>>>> real-world name, t

Re: list delays

[James Rankin]

On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

> Amit’s better looking too.
>
> Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I need
to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one
to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was
hilarious.

Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite?

JR

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