Re: [opensuse-factory] Deselecting Zenworks

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,

 Am Mittwoch, 15. November 2006 11:13 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
 Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The only one I found (searching for pattern taboo) is
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215355
  (current state is INVALID...)
 
  The problem is that marking a pattern as taboo does not mark the
  contained packages as taboo. The packages are only unselected and
  can be re-selected via dependencies (which happens with zmd).
 
  This is not the expected behaviour and can cause confusion -
  especially for the zenworks pattern which is probably the top
  taboo pattern ;-)

 It works now - the pattern magic in this case was a bit too involved,
 the bug report is:
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218492

 You can now deselect the pattern and install the other one,

 Andreas, I'm afraid we are talking about different issues - even if they 
 have the same result ;-)

 I'll write short summaries about the bugs to make it clear:

 a) Bug 218492 (your one): fix the patterns so that you can uninstall
zmd without trouble

 b) Bug 215355 (my one): taboo'ing a pattern does not taboo the 
contained packages - which is (maybe) technically correct, but very 
confusing for users

 Please read bug 215355, especially comment #4 and #5.

Ah I see - yes, we have to find ways to improve this in 10.3,


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Installing openSUSE 10.2 b2 on a T60 Thinkpad

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Jaeger
James PEARSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello all

 I installed openSUSE 10.2 b2 on an old PentiumIII at work which
 uses an i810 chipset. The yast install ran in ncurses mode but it
 ran ok. That is very notable because alot of live cds wouldn't even
 start an xserver on the i810 chipset. Great work!

 Since that worked out OK I decided to install openSUSE 10.2  b2 on my
 T60 Thinkpad (Model 1952 W5R). It has a Intel Centrino Duo 1.83
 cpu with 2 Go of RAM and a Mobile Intel 945GM Express video chipset).
 Note as far as I know only openSUSE 10.1, gentoo, and the
 latest [k|u]buntu work OK on the Intel 945GM video chipset. Hands off to
 openSUSE for being one of the three.

Thanks!

 # My report
 I selected a kde install as per normal. The 10.2 b2 install went fairly
 quickly until it hit the Download and Installation page.  Creating /
 downloading the source(s) took some 20 minutes. First remark.  Why does
 creating / downloading the source(s) take so long ? (here's is what I
 hope will be taken as constructive criticism - as I can download 1000
 kb/sec+ on my side, I would appreciate more speed on the suse side. I
 personally would be willing to pay for higher download speeds -
 please note I have had problems in the past with slow updates when
 installing suse using the orginal 10.1 CD's and ended up leaving the
 computer on all night - maybe you could consider a subscription
 service something a la Mandriva for higher d/l speeds).

 On the creating / downloading the source(s) page, yast2 had a problem
 creating one of the sources (it definitely appeared to be looping for
 awhile). After some 20 minutes yast2 offered be the choice to hit the
 skip button and finished the install.

Please create a bug report for these two and attach /var/log/YaST (as
tar file) and /var/log/zmd*log

 When the install finished, yast rebooted automatically into kde but I
 had no kde menu panel. I managed to open a konsole window and I noticed
 that I had no IP either. Please note that I had selected Network
 manager during the install instead of the traditional setup method as I
 normally do. It would appear that Network manager had a problem when
 it had to choose between the normal network cable (which definitely
 works - I just deleted a working 10.1 install in order to test 10.2) and
 the Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 ABG chipset (which still had to be fully
 configured).

There are already bugs in this area, I think you hit a duplicate.
rcnetwork restart should fix it - if not, please open a bugreport.


 I rebooted again. On the second reboot I had a SUSEPlugger - The KDE
 Crash Hander window telling me that The application SUSEPluger
 (suseplugger) crashed and casued the signal 6 (SIGABRT) 

Known bug - mentioned in the most annoying ones.


 I would really like to work with you on this in order to get openSUSE
 working on my T60. Please let me know what logs I need to send to help
 improve things.

Thanks for your testing!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Recommendation w.r.t. NetworkManager

2006-11-16 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 00:06]:
 
 The NetworkManager is new to me (I don't know if it was in 10.1, but I 
 never installed that release) and I'm wondering what advantages or 
 trade-offs it entails. Is it recommended or preferred for all 10.2 
 installations? Because I was unfamiliar, I just went with 
 the Traditional method with ifup for my alpha and beta installations.

NetworkManager is handy on a notebook with WLAN because you can easily
choose the network you want to connect. It's also handy for VPNs.


Regards, 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Recommendation w.r.t. NetworkManager

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Thursday 16 November 2006 08:46, Bernhard Walle wrote:
 * Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 00:06]:
  The NetworkManager is new to me (I don't know if it was in 10.1, but I
  never installed that release) and I'm wondering what advantages or
  trade-offs it entails. Is it recommended or preferred for all 10.2
  installations? Because I was unfamiliar, I just went with
  the Traditional method with ifup for my alpha and beta installations.

 NetworkManager is handy on a notebook with WLAN because you can easily
 choose the network you want to connect. It's also handy for VPNs.

Nevertheless, at least under KDE, KNetworkManger still has many issues, as you 
can see from looking at bugzilla. So if you can survive without 
NetworkManager, it will probably be better for you for now.

Hugo
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[opensuse-factory] ZMD.

2006-11-16 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Hi,

I noticed, during upgrading from Beta2 to beta2+,that zmd has been
'improved' according to exorbitant cpu usage...
It has gone down from average 80 90%, down to 49.9.
So just below 50%. It varies between 32 and 50.6 %, but most of the time
49.9.
This is half the cpu capacity..

What is not yet fully clear to me is:
What exactly does it do?
Why does it use this amount of cpu all the time?
Why is it never finished with what it is doing?

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[opensuse-factory] VIA Unichrome Pro GPU

2006-11-16 Thread Kerti Balázs Gábor
Hello,

The SuSE Linux 10.2 Beta2 (64bit) X.org server why do not use via
mmodule, if the GPU is Via Unicrhome Pro?

Balazs

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ZMD.

2006-11-16 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Št 16. November 2006 13:09 Robby (M9.) napísal:
 Hi,

 I noticed, during upgrading from Beta2 to beta2+,that zmd has been
 'improved' according to exorbitant cpu usage...
 It has gone down from average 80 90%, down to 49.9.
 So just below 50%. It varies between 32 and 50.6 %, but most of the time
 49.9.
 This is half the cpu capacity..

 What is not yet fully clear to me is:
 What exactly does it do?
 Why does it use this amount of cpu all the time?
 Why is it never finished with what it is doing?

What are other processes? What is the last part of the ZMD log file?

Stano
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ZMD.

2006-11-16 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Stanislav Visnovsky schreef:
 Dňa Št 16. November 2006 13:09 Robby (M9.) napísal:
 Hi,

 I noticed, during upgrading from Beta2 to beta2+,that zmd has been
 'improved' according to exorbitant cpu usage...
 It has gone down from average 80 90%, down to 49.9.
 So just below 50%. It varies between 32 and 50.6 %, but most of the time
 49.9.
 This is half the cpu capacity..

 What is not yet fully clear to me is:
 What exactly does it do?
 Why does it use this amount of cpu all the time?
 Why is it never finished with what it is doing?
 
 What are other processes? What is the last part of the ZMD log file?

y2base and xorg, mainly.
Sharing resources is ok, total usage stays most of the time below/around 50%
When finished the upgrade, zmd was also vanished, so ok now.
(used to stay around with nothing visible to do..)
So it 'looks' like these major bugs have been fixed now... lets hope
they are..

I am very pleased to say that the upgrade has been finished without any
errors this time.. :)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] VIA Unichrome Pro GPU

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Kerti Balázs Gábor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,

 The SuSE Linux 10.2 Beta2 (64bit) X.org server why do not use via
 mmodule, if the GPU is Via Unicrhome Pro?

No idea - better file a bug report ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zenworks....

2006-11-16 Thread Klaus Kaempf
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 Does this mean anything, or did i miss something and was this foreseen?
 
 System.NullReferenceException: A null value was found where an object
 instance was required.
 

This is certainly worth a bug report.

Klaus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] zenworks....

2006-11-16 Thread Jiří Suchomel
On Thursday 16 November 2006 15:11, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
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  Does this mean anything, or did i miss something and was this foreseen?
 
  System.NullReferenceException: A null value was found where an object
  instance was required.

 This is certainly worth a bug report.

Duplicate of 221185? Maybe also some other ones.

Jiri

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[opensuse-factory] Install in laptop

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
Hi,

I am installing directly from the factory tree, staring with the boot.iso CD. 
I am installing on a laptop and it seems that the installer tries to use the 
wireless and then fails. I am then taken to the text mode installer, where I 
select my eth0 (fixed) and proceed from there.

Looking at the log, it seems that it couldn't resolve the IP address of the 
install location, it says:

Sending DHCP request to eth0... ok
etho activated
dns: what is fr2.rpmfind.net?
invalid server address: fr2.rpmfind.net
Trying to activate eth1

I am sure that this address is correct (you can check it out).
Any clues, or is just a problem of myne?
Using the ip instead of the address name works without problems.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] VIA Unichrome Pro GPU

2006-11-16 Thread Alexey Eremenko

VIA drivers on Linux are very buggy. In fact X failes on two of my PCs
running VIA KM266 and VIA KM400 Unichrome graphics.

I recommend using VESA driver for users who runs VIA.
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[opensuse-factory] Re: Install in laptop

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Thursday 16 November 2006 14:50, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 Hi,

 I am installing directly from the factory tree, staring with the boot.iso
 CD. I am installing on a laptop and it seems that the installer tries to
 use the wireless and then fails. I am then taken to the text mode
 installer, where I select my eth0 (fixed) and proceed from there.

 Looking at the log, it seems that it couldn't resolve the IP address of the
 install location, it says:

 Sending DHCP request to eth0... ok
 etho activated
 dns: what is fr2.rpmfind.net?
 invalid server address: fr2.rpmfind.net
 Trying to activate eth1

 I am sure that this address is correct (you can check it out).
 Any clues, or is just a problem of myne?
 Using the ip instead of the address name works without problems.


From what I found, it seems that the install configures the DNS to be 
127.0.0.1?? This is strange, as I am writing this in another laptop with SUSE 
10.1, and year the DNS ip is attributed correctly by the dns. So I can 
exclude any error from the environment, so this is probably some bug on the 
installer?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Christoph Thiel schrieb:
 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.

Given that today is officially the last day where non-Blockers are
allowed to be fixed, I'd like to point at the following two non-Blockers
which are still annoying enough (and have fixes attached):



https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221383
The gdm default configuration file (/opt/gnome/share/gdm/defaults.conf)
is corrupted because it contains a comment that is not commented out:

Willing script, none is shipped, X11's one is used by default.

Should be:

# Willing script, none is shipped, X11's one is used by default.

This invalidates the file and causes all values below the corrupted line
to be discarded, esp. the MinimalUID setting. I assume that the impact
of this is higher than currently known and documented in the bug report.



https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220300
Alacarte is untranslated although it installs many translations because
it doesn't find them. I have a feeling that the bug is currently
incorrectly assigned because of a misunderstanding (alacarte doesn't
have anything to do with gnome-main-menu) - can you investigate?



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE

2006-11-16 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Montag, 13. November 2006 20:53 schrieb David Mayr:
  I think SUSE artists can do much better that that washed out blue
  wallpaper  gnome boredoom-style.

 I agree.

If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our 
artist won't surely help you in any way.

Greetings, Stephan
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[opensuse-factory] Cannot login in recue system

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
Since openSUSE 10.2 beta 2 cannot install grub correctly on my laptop (with an 
empty disk all dor openSUSE 10.2), I was giving a try on running grub myself 
from the shell.

I booted the rescur from CD1, but I cannot login. If I type root it asks for 
the login again. If I type anything else, it says login incorrect.

Any ideas?

I was really looking forward to test openSUSE 10.2 beta2 in this laptop.

Hugo Costelha
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[opensuse-factory] 3D support on ATI cards...

2006-11-16 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Hi,

I know it has got nothing to do with the creation of the SuSE-OS, but...
Does anyone know how to get 3D-support for the Ati Radeon?
NVidia has got the drivers..
To buy a new card, because there are no drivers...
Or how to get started that drivers get written, or translated?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Cannot login in recue system

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hugo Costelha schrieb:
 Since openSUSE 10.2 beta 2 cannot install grub correctly on my laptop (with 
 an 
 empty disk all dor openSUSE 10.2), I was giving a try on running grub myself 
 from the shell.
 
 I booted the rescur from CD1, but I cannot login. If I type root it asks 
 for 
 the login again. If I type anything else, it says login incorrect.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I was really looking forward to test openSUSE 10.2 beta2 in this laptop.

Continue doing so.

What you describe is known (in fact even mentioned as a Most Annoying
bug on http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs) and already
fixed (for RC1):

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219112

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Cannot login in recue system

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Thursday 16 November 2006 17:51, vetter wrote:
 I had the same problem and found:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219112

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote:
  Since openSUSE 10.2 beta 2 cannot install grub correctly on my laptop
  (with an empty disk all dor openSUSE 10.2), I was giving a try on running
  grub myself from the shell.
 
  I booted the rescur from CD1, but I cannot login. If I type root it
  asks for the login again. If I type anything else, it says login
  incorrect.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  I was really looking forward to test openSUSE 10.2 beta2 in this laptop.
 

Well, I finnally was able to login. Instead of booting from CD1 of beta2, I 
booted with the net installation CD, went to manual install, select Start 
Rescue System, provided with a URL of the Factory tree, then it booted the 
rescue system, and I was able to login.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Cannot login in recue system

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hugo Costelha schrieb:
 Well, I finnally was able to login. Instead of booting from CD1 of beta2, I 
 booted with the net installation CD, went to manual install, select Start 
 Rescue System, provided with a URL of the Factory tree, then it booted the 
 rescue system, and I was able to login.

That's because this CD is either older than Beta2 (and therefore doesn't
have the bug yet) or newer than Beta2 (and therefore has the bug already
fixed).

In general, try to search Bugzilla for FIXED bugs first or look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs - obvious bugs are
documented there so that everybody knows if/when they are resolved.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] topics next dist meeting

2006-11-16 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 23:53 +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Am Mittwoch, 15. November 2006 21:17 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
  for tomorrow's meeting we have one topic so far:
 
  Encrypted Home Partitions:
 
  - Use dm-crypt and LUKS by default for newly encrypted
  partitions
 
 From what I remember from the german Linux Magazin some time ago 
 (multiple passwords per partition, passwords easily changeable etc.), 
 this is a very good idea :-)
 
 [... more good ideas snipped ...]
 
  Any comments, suggestions etc?
 
 I'd propose to check how useful /etc/cryptotab is.
 I see several disadvantages compared to an entry in /etc/fstab:
 
 a) /etc/cryptotab needs an explicit /dev/loopX entry
 
YaST2 always puts the first (at partition creation time) available 
device (usually /dev/loop0) to /etc/cryptotab
 
This becomes funny if you manually add a loop mount to your fstab 
which is mounted at boot time - in fact, you won't be able to mount 
the encrypted partition because /dev/loop0 is already in use.
 
In fstab, you don't need to specify which loop device to use - you 
specify the loop option and it simply uses the first available, 
whatever number it has.
 
Yes, you can specify which loop device to use in /etc/fstab or you
can modify /etc/cryptotab to use another loop device - but this are
ugly workarounds.
 
 b) if you skipped mounting your encrypted partition while booting, you 
can't mount them with mount afterwards if they are not listed in 
fstab. See also https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=209647
(which might be invalid for yast2-storage, but not for the whole 
story)
 
 In short, there's no additional value by using a separate file 
 (/etc/cryptotab) for encrypted partitions, but several disadvantages 
 and problems. OTOH, I see no disadvantages when using /etc/fstab for 
 encrypted partitions.
 
 Did I already mention that I suggest to drop /etc/cryptotab completely 
 and to put all partitions, including encrypted, to /etc/fstab? ;-))
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Christian Boltz
 
 PS: If you decide not to drop /etc/cryptotab, please consider to drop 
 the loop device column.
 I proposed this some time ago [1], but this was (understandable) 
 WONTFIX because it would be an incompatible change. Now that you are 
 going to do major changes, compatibility could get rated lower.
 
 [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=77126 (9.3 bug, 
 therefore not public unfortunately)
 
 Oh, and /etc/cryptotab bit back in 10.0 ;-)
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=105020 (public bug)
 Short summary: The installation/update now ignores the loop 
 device column...
 

It's been a while ago since i experimented with crypto (beginning
10.1 ;-)
But from what i recollect...
1) Using the general partitioner, with yast, results in a partition that
gets mounted at startup. works well, but the partition gets mounted
allways.

2) Some people (not me) wants to encrypt EVERYTHING, inluding swap and
root. AFAIK, that is still not possible. Perhaps its should be pointed
out, that it both a) irrelevant, and b) counter productive.
a) 90% on the harddisk is opensource and general available
b) encrypting cost cpu-cycles,so hard disk will be slowed down.

3) best solution (imho) is to have for each individual user a seperate
container, which gets mounted on his home directory after login
(pam_mount)

4) for the the paranoia, have also /var/spool/mail en swap encrypted
Nothing else is worthwhile

5) for the super-paranoia, encrypt with the key from a smartcard.

I still use loop-aes on my usk-stick and i would highly recommend it..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] topics next dist meeting

2006-11-16 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 20:21 schrieb Hans Witvliet:
 It's been a while ago since i experimented with crypto (beginning
 10.1 ;-)
 But from what i recollect...
 1) Using the general partitioner, with yast, results in a partition
 that gets mounted at startup. works well, but the partition gets
 mounted allways.

It should be possible to mark it as mount by user and/or noauto in 
YaST. (However, I never tried that.)

 2) Some people (not me) wants to encrypt EVERYTHING, inluding swap
 and root. AFAIK, that is still not possible. 

It is possible - with the exception of /boot.
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encrypted-Root-Filesystem-HOWTO/

 Perhaps its should be 
 pointed out, that it both a) irrelevant, and b) counter productive.
 a) 90% on the harddisk is opensource and general available

Well, encrypting _everything_ is really something that you need very 
rarely. However, it's important that you encrypt /tmp and (large parts 
of) /var because sooner or later your data leaks out to a tempfile or 
alike...

Encrypted swap is also a good thing from the security point of view (you 
never know which of your data gets swapped out) - unfortunately it 
doesn't work with suspend2disk AFAIK.

 b) encrypting cost cpu-cycles,so hard disk will be slowed down.

Of course, but with today's CPUs I consider this a minor problem. 
Usually the harddisk performance is the limiting factor, not the CPU.

 3) best solution (imho) is to have for each individual user a
 seperate container, which gets mounted on his home directory after
 login (pam_mount)

 4) for the the paranoia, have also /var/spool/mail en swap encrypted
 Nothing else is worthwhile

As already said: /tmp and parts of /var (like /var/tmp, /var/lib/mysql, 
...) can also contain sensitive data. A simple example: Click any 
attachment in KMail - it will be saved to /tmp/kde-$user/... 
temporarily.

My paranoia level ;-) is:
I have symlinked most of /var to my encrypted partition - except 
for /var/log, /var/lock and /var/run which would need some more tuning.
See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=140226 for details.

 5) for the super-paranoia, encrypt with the key from a smartcard.

;-)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] topics next dist meeting

2006-11-16 Thread Anders Johansson
On Thursday 16 November 2006 21:30, Christian Boltz wrote:
 A simple example: Click any
 attachment in KMail - it will be saved to /tmp/kde-$user/...
 temporarily.

Have you tried setting TMPDIR to something other than /tmp before logging in 
to kde? /opt/kde3/bin/lnusertemp will create those user directories on login

So a user that a) wants to have his data on an encrypted partition, and b) 
doesn't want his data on a partition where he doesn't control the encryption 
key, has options
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[opensuse-factory] Problems with hp deskjet 649c

2006-11-16 Thread Vincenzo Barranco

Hi to all,
I'm new of this list, and i decide to subscrive here because I have some
problems.
I have installed openSUSE 10.2 beta 2 yesterday, it's all ok, yast is too
much faster than the 10.1, but my printer ( a Hp Deskjet 640c) doesn't work
with it.
I try to configure printer with suitable module in YaST, and it showed to me
a message, on my system there isn't package cups-drivers-stp , then this I
went immediately to looked in YaST package manager, is true this package is
not relased for this version, infact it isn't in the internet installation
repository of factory too, now I ask to you, what I can do?

Vincenzo

P.S.:I'm sorry for my english, if is wrong, but i'm 14 and i'm italian, :-)


[opensuse-factory] Ati 3D

2006-11-16 Thread Robby (M9.)
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@Manfred,

I found the file, but it is a sax generated file, which cannot be edited
the way a script can be edited...

# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2006-11-15T15:58:21+0100.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

You know something about this?
Or better contact Marcus?

M9.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Ati 3D

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Robby (M9.) schrieb:
 I found the file, but it is a sax generated file, which cannot be edited
 the way a script can be edited...

Of course you can edit the file!

Just ignore the comment and edit it anyway.

(What you shouldn't do is editing xorg.conf and then filing a bug
against SaX2 for a config file that hasn't been generated by SaX2. But
otherwise, xorg.conf is yours and you can do with it whatever you want.)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] VIA Unichrome Pro GPU

2006-11-16 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:49:35PM +0100, Kerti Balázs Gábor wrote:
 
  I've added a project/package to the buildservice for it.
  
X11:Drivers:Video:openchrome/xorg-x11-driver-video-openchrome
  
  Repos: SUSE_Factory and SLE_10
  
  Feedback would be appreciated.
  
  Best regards,
  Stefan
  
 How do I find it, and to install? What can I do, and how? Sorry, but I
 am not a SuSE guru...:-)

  http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/Drivers:/Video:/openchrome/

i386 is not build yet, but already scheduled. The buildservice seems
to be overloaded. :-(

Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/16, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Juan Erbes schrieb:
 Other bug I view in bugzilla (I found it in my system, but at this
 time, it was registered in bugzilla) is with the hal-resmgr, and it
 appear the last weekend as resolved, but the new package with the
 fixes, do'nt appear in the repositories.

Be patient, syncing the packages out needs a long time (sometimes a
whole week).

The issue is definitely resolved. Maybe even wait for RC1 (today in 1 week).


Well!, very nice notice!

But for RC1 the grub installer related bugs will be resolved?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Juan Erbes schrieb:
 But for RC1 the grub installer related bugs will be resolved?

Yes, they will be, or are already; search Bugzilla and include FIXED
bugs in your search.

Please, let's not make this thread off-topic; it is used to track bugs
which are already in Bugzilla, known to be not yet fixed, and
underestimated.

If you have a particular Bug-ID that you know to be still unresolved and
having a too low severity or too little attention, use this thread; if
you do not have a Bug-ID or just want to ask questions about a bug, post
a completely new thread.

Especially, always watch this page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs

I can see stuff there that sounds very much like your issue and is striked.

Did I already tell you to include FIXED bugs in the search settings when
searching Bugzilla?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/17, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Juan Erbes schrieb:
 But for RC1 the grub installer related bugs will be resolved?

Yes, they will be, or are already; search Bugzilla and include FIXED
bugs in your search.

Please, let's not make this thread off-topic; it is used to track bugs
which are already in Bugzilla, known to be not yet fixed, and
underestimated.

If you have a particular Bug-ID that you know to be still unresolved and
having a too low severity or too little attention, use this thread; if
you do not have a Bug-ID or just want to ask questions about a bug, post
a completely new thread.

Especially, always watch this page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs

I can see stuff there that sounds very much like your issue and is
striked.

Did I already tell you to include FIXED bugs in the search settings when
searching Bugzilla?



Thanks


Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-11-16 Thread Terje J. Hanssen

Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Terje J. Hanssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

Andreas Jaeger wrote:


Terje J. Hanssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):

* rdesktop
* tsclient


So, in which pattern should they end?

  

Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.



and vnc?

We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern.  Would it make
sense to have a new one?  Or add them as optional, not installed by
default to the X11 pattern?

  

Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!


Isn't that in the list already?

  

Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were
limited to the core installation.
The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/

tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)



That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(

  

I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a
nice image after startup from the terminal.



Please file a bugreport,

Andreas
  


I can't see tsclient yet in 10.2 Beta 2 (yes, rdesktop is there).
Is there any chance to get tsclient 0.148 in openSUSE 10.2 i386 and
x86_64 and without the dependices on the ICA client as mentioned for the
previous tsclient 0.140?

Here is the 0.148 rpm at Gnome Pro and also a package from Debian:
http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/tsclient.html

The previous tsclient 0.140 for Suse was found here:
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-i386/RPMS.gnome/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/applications 

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/yast-source/suse/i586/ 


http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-x86_64/RPMS.gnome/


Rgds,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] VIA Unichrome Pro GPU

2006-11-16 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Stefan Dirsch wrote:

On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:49:35PM +0100, Kerti Balázs Gábor wrote:



I've added a project/package to the buildservice for it.

  X11:Drivers:Video:openchrome/xorg-x11-driver-video-openchrome

Repos: SUSE_Factory and SLE_10

Feedback would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Stefan


How do I find it, and to install? What can I do, and how? Sorry, but I
am not a SuSE guru...:-)


 http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/Drivers:/Video:/openchrome/

i386 is not build yet, but already scheduled. The buildservice seems
to be overloaded. :-(


You can try

http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/X11:/Drivers:/Video:/openchrome

The files get pushed to there directly by SUSE as soon as they are 
built.

But indeed, i386 has not been built yet. Only x86_64.

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[opensuse-factory] Reduced 3D Performace in 10.2? (i810)

2006-11-16 Thread Allen
I have noticed approx. 10% reduction in FPS in glxgears with 10.2 beta2
versus 10.1. I have an identical xorg setup in each system. I have an Intel
82865G integrated graphics adapter and I'm using the i810 driver. 

On 10.1 I'm averaging 1430 fps and in 10.2 I'm averaging 1280 fps. Not a
huge deal and still much better than xorg 6.8.2 but just wondering what's
causing the slowdown?

Anyone else notice this with different drivers other than i810?

Thanks
Allen

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Re: [opensuse] Re: installing on hp tablet

2006-11-16 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 01:32, pol wrote:
 I have tried syslinux, preferable with respect to grub or lilo. as
 suggested here:  http://d-i.pascal.at/
Did you read the *entire* page listed above?

I'm not being rude, nor am I trying to insult, but it looks like there 
are 
several known issues (difficulties) and work-arounds... just make sure that 
you review the entire page to make sure.

I still think you should be using grub... and I refer you to this line 
from 
the link you gave above:
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   ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe mainboard, BIOS Rev. 1023, Phison Electronics usb 
disk 2.0 128 MB memory stick (only partitionless installation successful, 
but the partitioned one did work when using GRUB instead of SYSLINUX)
/clip

Otherwise, the article does not mention grub at all.

Probably what is happening, mainly guessing here, is that either the 
loader 
doesn't have the file system driver loaded (necessary to read the kernel 
image), or the map is pointing to the wrong location.

One of the advantages of using grub is that the necessary file system 
drivers 
are available *before* any mounts occur. Also, because the boot is a two 
stage process, less space is required on the device for the first stage 
loader... it also can be configured with a simple text file without reloading 
(/boot/grub/menu.lst) and it can be *altered* dynamically at startup from the 
grub command line. Having said all that... I have never used syslinux so I 
can not compare and, as stated before, I have not been able to upgrade my 
bios yet in order to be able to boot from usb... so, I have not tried any of 
this with a usb memory stick...  I am going to have to get off my duff and 
play with this myself... 




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Re: [opensuse] opensuse

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel Bauer
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 23:32, houghi wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 04:24:43PM -0600, M Harris wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 November 2006 15:30, Anders Johansson wrote:
   Yes, the opensuse mailing list exists, suse-linux-e doesn't (it was
   killed last Friday)
  
  :-)
 
   just spear-aminting
 
  Have the other suse.com lists been killed also?
 
  Maybe the better question is, where is the new list of current list
  servers?

 http://en.openSUSE.com  Communicate  Mailing lists
 That is where it was for a long time already.

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I just had a look at 
http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate

Why is the off topic list suse-ot not listed there?

I find many of the rants *) in this list really interesting, but I'd prefer 
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pointing to the off topic list on the said page would be a good idea, don't 
you think so too?

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AW: [opensuse] Problems with CIFS and fstab

2006-11-16 Thread Christopher Beynon
On Tuesday November 7 2006 11:50 am, Drew Burchett wrote:

 I am attempting to mount a Windows 2003 share to a mount point on my

 Suse Linux 10 box.  When I type:



 Mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt/point -o user=Me,password=mine

 Everything works perfectly.  However, when I put the following entry in

 fstab:

 //server/share /mnt/point cifs user=Me,password=mine,rw 0 0



//server/share /mnt/point cifs credentials=/path/to/filename 0 0





 

Have you tried replacing server with the numerical address like

 

 fstab:

  //192/share /mnt/point cifs user=Me,password=mine,rw 0 0

 

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[opensuse] Re: installing on hp tablet

2006-11-16 Thread pol
From M Harris, Nov 16 at  2:03:
   I'm not being rude, nor am I trying to insult, but it looks like there 
  are
 several known issues (difficulties) and work-arounds... just make sure that
 you review the entire page to make sure.

I have read that page and more from references therein: there are problems
sometimes booting from usb memory sticks.
Yet, that page and the debian on line intructions are the only detailed pages
i have found, until now.
As i find some spare time, i will give grub a try, as you suggested.

Thank you

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[opensuse] Why does kde-update overwrite personal settings?

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel Bauer
Hi,

After updating to the latest kde, many of my personal settings (like theme, 
styles, used fonts, screensaver etc.) have been overwritten/changed to some 
defaults and I had to reset them in kde control center manually. For 
some special settings not accessible via control center (like size of 
k-menu items) I must now search the mailing list archives, because I have 
forgotten how to do it meanwhile. This is quite a lot of work...

By a young friend using kubuntu and always updating to the very latest kde I 
was *told*, that he never has to adjust his setting again after an update. 
(*told* means: I don't know if this is really true.)

3 questions:

- did I do something wrong so that part of my settings are lost?
- are the previuos settings saved somewhere, so I could easily get them back 
after the update?
- *if* kubuntu really can keep all the settings with an update, why can't 
Suse?

thanks for your hints.

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Re: [opensuse] Pear on 10.1

2006-11-16 Thread Tim Nicholson
Scott Leighton wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 November 2006 5:38 am, Tim Nicholson wrote:
 I'm experiencing problems  with pear on 10.1 and wonder if anyone else
 has had problems?


 PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried
 to allocate 8208 bytes) in.

 Anybody any ideas?
 
Check your setting in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini for the line...
 
/etc/php5/cli/php.ini is more appropriate.

What concerns me is that I would have thought the default 8M should have
been adequate for normal use, upping it to 20M certainly allows pear5
list-all to work, but it still gives an:-

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in PEAR/REST/11.php on
line 146

which makes me wonder if there is something broken leading to a memory leak.

It does not inspire confidence.

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Re: [opensuse] Software for putting together a website

2006-11-16 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 23:17 +, Peter Nikolic wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 November 2006 22:51, William S Fulton wrote:
  Anyone got any suggestions for some good packages available on Suse for
  quickly putting together a simple website? I'm just looking for some
  modern pretty looking templates that I can use as a base to add in some
  text, static html and maybe some Javascript for some nice hover over
  effects. Bluefish and Quanta seem to be very barebones.

www.plone.org.

It is built on Zope, which is built on python, which come with OpenSuse.

Plone provides a GUI for you and for users that does not require
knowledge of HTML or a programming language. But if want you can use
this as well as javascript.

For a simple site, the setup is easy. To get complex, there is a
learning curve.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Postfix question

2006-11-16 Thread Sandy Drobic

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Sandy Drobic wrote:

Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:


Reporting-MTA: dns; jmorris.home
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 639CC26F0DF
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Remote-MTA: dns; smtp.postoffice.net
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 Invalid sender domain

The mailserver at postoffice.net checked for the existence of
jmorris.home, and couldn't find it, which is not surprising.

I think he already solved the problem, but asked why yast did not set
up generic as required, when he configured postfix in yast.



Almost correct.  I did find the problem.  The Yast MTA module has a
Masquerading button, which effectively edits sender_canonical and
creates the hash.  This has worked up until 10.2.  This quit working
with 10.2, so I did some digging.  I believe it still changed the from
address, but somehow there was a header line, X-Postfix-Sender (see
above), with the original sender.  Research seemed to indicate what I
needed to use was generic and not sender_canonical.  So, I added via


What I find strange about this is why this header was added at all. 
Headers with the format X-xx are non-standard headers, and a closer 
look in this case reveals that it isn't a header at all, it is part of the 
body of the bounce message.



POSTFIX_ADD_GENERIC the hash type and path to /etc/sysconfig/postfix, as
well as added generic to the postfix maps SuSEconfig creates.  I then
added the same mapping as in sender_canonical to generic, ran
SuSEconfig, and it fixed the problem.  So my question I guess, in the
interest of making 10.2 a great release, is has postfix changed in this
regard, has generic vs sender_canonical changed, which may need a bug
report for the Yast module, or have I made some flawed steps in my
understanding or troubleshooting?


Can't say that without more details. It should work with canonical as 
well, but it might be that additional settings are necessary.


Here's what the documentation say:

   By default the  canonical(5)  mapping  affects  both  message
   header addresses (i.e. addresses that appear inside messages)
   and message envelope addresses (for  example,  the  addresses
   that  are used in SMTP protocol commands). This is controlled
   with the canonical_classes parameter.

   NOTE: Postfix versions 2.2 and later rewrite message  headers
   from  remote  SMTP  clients  only  if  the client matches the
   local_header_rewrite_clientsparameter,orifthe
   remote_header_rewrite_domain  configuration  parameter speci-
   fies a non-empty value. To get the  behavior  before  Postfix
   2.2, specify local_header_rewrite_clients = static:all.

It might be worth to investigate this. Could you check your configuration 
in for these settings with output of postconf:


- postconf local_header_rewrite_clients
- postconf remote_header_rewrite_domain
- postconf canonical_classes


I can't really comment on the yast module for the postfix
configuration, since I never used it (I always configure all files
manually).

Sandy

I figured as much.  I have appreciated your depth of postfix knowledge,
Sandy, but for me SuSEconfig's postfix script and the Yast module have
done a very good job for the most part, and improving it would help more
users in the long run.  Thanks again for your thoughts.


The yast modules is helping to set up a local server for a small company 
or a home network. Most of these users don't need to work out the finer 
details of antispam configuration or tune the server for effective use of 
available resources.


A few weeks ago I set up a temporary replacement server for our 
mailgateway (Suse 9.2 needed to be upgraded) and tried to set up the basic 
config with the postfix yast module (now on Suse 10.0). Half way during 
the configuration I didn't understand what settings yast offered to me and 
gave up.
My trouble appearantly was that I couldn't understand Yast anymore since 
it didn't speak to me in Postfix terms. (^-^)


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Re: [opensuse] relay and smtp services in postfix

2006-11-16 Thread Sandy Drobic

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Wednesday 2006-11-15 at 22:08 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:


Sigh, I am just typing this the second time due to power outage. Well, at
least I know that my ups is cleanly shutting down all my systems.


...
...

Nice explanation :-)


The first time all my pc were shutting down, I was at work, couldn't 
connect to my servers at home anymore and came back to a dark house 
without power.
Some workers were busy digging out the earth in the neighbarhood and 
destroyed the main power cable for our side of the street. So the ups kept 
providing currency for a few minutes, then apcupsd told all server to shut 
down. That part worked flawlessly.


After two hours the power returned, they used a temporary workaround, so 
people were not left in the dark.
Unfortunately they needed to cut power again to swith back to the repaired 
 normal power cable, and my ups didn't have to time to recharge 
sufficiently, so my workstation was shutting down almost at once again...

I wasn't fast enough to save the draft I was writing on. :-/

One of the things I miss in documentations is an explanation of how things 
work, not the usual extensive options explanations, like in 
http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html. So reading your explanation 
is a welcome change.


It's the usual difference between a reference and an in-depth explaining 
book designed to teach you WHY things work the way they do.


Though I have to say that Wietse takes great pain to keep the 
documentation accurate, up-to-date and even transparent for users of 
different versions (most settings available in Postfix have a remark for 
which versions of Postfix they have been introduced).


A frequent reply from Wietse is If it is not documented, it is not 
implemented.



A mailinglist server is a special case. If a mailing list has a lot of
subscribers, then a few incoming mails are sufficient to generate many
thousands of outgoing emails.

So Postfix will per default use a max of 100 smtp processes. 5 emails are
submitted to the mailing list manager, 1 emails are generated, and Postfix
is using all 100 smtp processes to send mails out. If you are using
amavisd-new to first filter the mail, that mail might have to wait for a smtp
process to be free to be delivered to amavisd-new.


Amavis can use lmtp instead. But I'm too sleepy to know if it is postfix 
to amavis or viceversa O:-)


Bothe amavis and Postfix can use lmtp to transfer mails. The recommended 
way though is to define additional transports with the settings you need 
for that transport. One example is relay, another frequently used is 
amavis or amavis-smtp. That transport is used to restrict the number 
of concurrent processes at a limit the server can handle.


master.cf:
smtp  inet  n   -   n   -   100   smtpd
-o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024

smtp-amavis unix -  -   n   -   2   smtp
-o content_filter=
-o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8

That way there are 100 smtpd processes that accept mails but only two smtp 
processes are allowed to transfer mails to the expensive content_filter. 
If necessary, Mails will pile up in front of the content_filter, but the 
server will eventually process them (provided mails don't come in faster 
than Amavis can scan them in a reasonable time).


Sandy
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Re: [opensuse] Email signature command execution help

2006-11-16 Thread Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC)

Basil Chupin wrote:

Scott Leighton wrote:


On Sunday 12 November 2006 9:07 pm, Basil Chupin wrote:


I missed previous posts in this thread, but in Mozilla/TB under Account
Settings you have the item Attach this Signature where you can specify
the file to attach as the sig. Wouldn't selecting the file containing
the output from the executable is what is required here?



Not with the same effect. Something external would have to
trigger the executable to fire off so it would output to the file 
being attached.

For example, Kmail lets one specify an executable script
to execute, then it uses the output as the signature. Many
people put the output of uptime into their sig, so their
sig contains the exact uptime at the time that they replied
to the message with the sig on it.
With your suggestion, to achieve the same effect one
would have to have this 'signature' script running in the
background, say with cron, every minute or so dumping
the output to a text file that is the file specified as the
signature attach file in Mozilla/TB. Course, this assumes
that Mozilla/TB doesn't cache that file, in which case
even the cron example wouldn't work.



Ah, OK.

I think what you may be looking for is this extension for TB:

Signature 0.4.0.4.200610221528

which you will find by going to-

https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?cat=36app=thunderbirdappfilter=thunderbirdtype=E 

Tnx Basil,

I'll have a look there.
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Re: [opensuse] Email signature command execution help

2006-11-16 Thread Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC)

Darryl Gregorash wrote:



snip


So, apart from the cosmetics, using a named pipe as the signature file
and overwriting the signature are identical. OK, Hylton has two methods
now to get what he wants in his signature :-)

mmm, Tnx all and it would seem esp houghi.

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Re: [opensuse] opensuse

2006-11-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
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 Why is the off topic list suse-ot not listed there?

It has not being migrated (yet), and I think it was never listed on 
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Re: [opensuse] Activating routes

2006-11-16 Thread James Mohr
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 22:45, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
 Wed, 15 Nov 2006, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Tuesday 14 November 2006 17:36, J Sloan wrote:
   James Mohr wrote:
Hi All!
   
This is a pretty basic question and I am almost embarrassed to ask. I
have SUSE 10.0 Pro and configured a route in
/etc/sysconfig/network/routes.  I have been digging through the
scripts under /etc/sysconfig/network/scripts, looking for a means to
activate this route without having to run /etc/init.d/network
restart. Doing that does not seem to be a problem, but it seems to
be overkill. Any info is appreaciated.
  
   ip route change default via new gateway IP
 
  Thanks for the info. Not quite exactly what I was looking for. As far as
  I can see, that changes the routes, but does not use the values
  from  /etc/sysconfig/network/routes. That naturally solves the problem of
  adding a route without restarting the network (just as using the route
  command would). However, it doesn't check the validity/correctness of the
  routes file. I guess I should have been a little more specific in what I
  was looking for.

 routes(5)
 DESCRIPTION
The files /etc/sysconfig/network/routes   and /etc/sysconfig/net-
work/ifroute-config  are  parsed  by  the  script /etc/sysconfig/net-
work/scripts/ifup-route which sets up routing for an interface/configu-
ration.

 Theo

I tried ifup-route but I was getting an error that the interface was not up 
because that's the interface which connects me to my router and has to be 
up. So, my assumption was that there was something wrong in my syntax, but I 
could not figure out what was wrong. 

Turns out that the system was right. The interface was not up. I have an 
interface built-in on the motherboard. Sometimes it is recognized as eth0 and 
sometimes as eth1, with my other NIC recognized as the other one. Up to now, 
I had only seen it when the built-in NIC was eth1, so I never thought much of 
it. Now, eth0 is the built-in and isn't up. Thus, I get the error. Using 
ifup-route eth1 works as I had wanted. Imagine that!

Thanks for the help.

Regards,

Jim Mohr

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Postfix question

2006-11-16 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Sandy Drobic wrote:

NOTE: Postfix versions 2.2 and later rewrite message  headers
from  remote  SMTP  clients  only  if  the client matches the
local_header_rewrite_clientsparameter,orifthe
remote_header_rewrite_domain  configuration  parameter speci-
fies a non-empty value. To get the  behavior  before  Postfix
2.2, specify local_header_rewrite_clients = static:all.

 It might be worth to investigate this. Could you check your
 configuration in for these settings with output of postconf:

 - postconf local_header_rewrite_clients
local_header_rewrite_clients = permit_inet_interfaces

 - postconf remote_header_rewrite_domain
remote_header_rewrite_domain =

 - postconf canonical_classes

canonical_classes = envelope_sender, envelope_recipient, header_sender,
header_recipient

I just checked a 10.1 and a 9.3, and those were the same exactly.  I
don't understand it.  It appears sender_canonical does some but not
enough rewriting the address, but generic worked immediately.
and the man page said this:
DESCRIPTION
   The optional generic(5) table specifies an address mapping that
applies
   when mail is delivered. This is the opposite of  canonical(5) 
mapping,
   which applies when mail is received.

   Typically, one would use the generic(5) table on a system that
does not
   have a valid Internet domain name and that uses something like
localdo‐
   main.local  instead.   The generic(5) table is then used by the
smtp(8)
   client to transform local  mail  addresses  into  valid 
Internet  mail
   addresses  when mail has to be sent across the Internet.  See the
EXAM‐
   PLE section at the end of this document.

   The generic(5) mapping affects  both  message  header  addresses 
(i.e.
   addresses  that  appear inside messages) and message envelope
addresses
   (for example, the addresses that are used in SMTP protocol commands).

Which seems exactly what I needed, and indeed did work (but in the
process confused me how it ever worked before).  Is the above saying (as
it seems to me) that canonical mapping are only for incoming mail, while
generic is for outgoing mail?  Is sender_canonical changing the sender
of incoming mail?  That is how it appears, but made me doubt how it
seemed to work before.  Thanks again for your help in my trying to get
an understanding of postfix.



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Re: [opensuse] Why does kde-update overwrite personal settings?

2006-11-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Daniel Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-16-06 04:24]:
 After updating to the latest kde, many of my personal settings (like
 theme, styles, used fonts, screensaver etc.) have been
 overwritten/changed to some defaults and I had to reset them in kde
 control center manually. For some special settings not accessible
 via control center (like size of k-menu items) I must now search the
 mailing list archives, because I have forgotten how to do it
 meanwhile. This is quite a lot of work...

I have not noticed that happening and I am up to 3.5.5 release 45.2.
But, you may have been using themes, styles and fonts not updated,
therefore not included in the updated version.

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Re: [opensuse] Why does kde-update overwrite personal settings?

2006-11-16 Thread Clayton

After updating to the latest kde, many of my personal settings (like theme,
styles, used fonts, screensaver etc.) have been overwritten/changed to some
defaults and I had to reset them in kde control center manually. For
some special settings not accessible via control center (like size of
k-menu items) I must now search the mailing list archives, because I have
forgotten how to do it meanwhile. This is quite a lot of work...

By a young friend using kubuntu and always updating to the very latest kde I
was *told*, that he never has to adjust his setting again after an update.
(*told* means: I don't know if this is really true.)

3 questions:

- did I do something wrong so that part of my settings are lost?
- are the previuos settings saved somewhere, so I could easily get them back
after the update?
- *if* kubuntu really can keep all the settings with an update, why can't
Suse?



I've bumped into this when I missed or removed one of the QT RPMs.  It
was a long time ago (either 9.3 or 10.0), so can't exactly remember
which one it was - I'm old and my remembery is failing me :-P  Once
the missing/incorrectly built QT file was replaced, I had all my KDE
settings returned to me.

C.
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[opensuse] one little irritation in my 10.1 install

2006-11-16 Thread jfweber

I can't find the place either in the yast2 settings and pages nor in the 
personal settings where one could add delete to the right click menus It's 
driving me insane! 

Other than that I am on the 2nd (computer) install of the night not bad for 
such a dog as I have been hearing for well, almost for ever!! 
;)

I'm even getting used to the new variation on the old Susewatcher. Tho this 
dvd had a bug that was nutty as all get out .. no matter what this little red 
ball yept sitting in my tray getting redder and redder but it never actually 
would do anything when I told it to update the 237 files .. It complained of 
a messed up script. But at the same time I wasn't getting as quick a response 
to my registration so I had to wait nearlly 2 hrs to get a site that would 
give me teh updates in yast online update.. still, it happened eventually, 
and now I'm thinking I am going to go to bed... 

If anyone has an answer for the delete dilemma I'll toss in an extra k of Good 
Karma points.. 
TIA y'all

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Re: [opensuse] one little irritation in my 10.1 install

2006-11-16 Thread Dylan
On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't find the place either in the yast2 settings and pages nor in the
 personal settings where one could add delete to the right click menus
 It's driving me insane!


If you mean the context menu in Konqueror then on the first page of 
Konqueror's settings is:

Show 'Delete' Context menu entries which bypass the wastebin

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Postfix question

2006-11-16 Thread Sandy Drobic

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Sandy Drobic wrote:

   NOTE: Postfix versions 2.2 and later rewrite message  headers
   from  remote  SMTP  clients  only  if  the client matches the
   local_header_rewrite_clientsparameter,orifthe
   remote_header_rewrite_domain  configuration  parameter speci-
   fies a non-empty value. To get the  behavior  before  Postfix
   2.2, specify local_header_rewrite_clients = static:all.

It might be worth to investigate this. Could you check your
configuration in for these settings with output of postconf:

- postconf local_header_rewrite_clients

local_header_rewrite_clients = permit_inet_interfaces


Did you send the mail directly from the pc where Postfix is running or was 
it sent from a pc within your network?


What does postconf inet_interfaces say?


- postconf remote_header_rewrite_domain

remote_header_rewrite_domain =


- postconf canonical_classes


canonical_classes = envelope_sender, envelope_recipient, header_sender,
header_recipient


Those settings should work.



I just checked a 10.1 and a 9.3, and those were the same exactly.  I
don't understand it.  It appears sender_canonical does some but not
enough rewriting the address, but generic worked immediately.
and the man page said this:


I know that Suse 9.2 used Postfix 2.1.5 where generic wasn't implemented 
yet, unfortunately I don't have a Suse 9.3 available, and on my 10.0 
systems I already installed a recent version of Postfix.



Which seems exactly what I needed, and indeed did work (but in the
process confused me how it ever worked before).  Is the above saying (as
it seems to me) that canonical mapping are only for incoming mail, while
generic is for outgoing mail?  Is sender_canonical changing the sender
of incoming mail?  That is how it appears, but made me doubt how it


Postfix isn't built with a single I-do-everything binary, instead it uses 
several programs to handle specific tasks. Generic is applied by the smtp 
client program, so it can only be used for mails which are handed to the 
smtp client, and the job of the smtp client is usually to send a mail out.


canonical on the other hand is used by the cleanup daemon which checks a 
mail prior to queueing it to make sure that all required headers are 
present and if necessary insert it. Cleanup is also the daemon that 
applies header/body checks, by the way.


So these checks and rewriting take place for incoming mails, before they 
are queued. Some headers may not be present at the time cleanup is 
checking the mail, while generic will see all headers since it sees the 
mails at the time it leaves the system.



seemed to work before.  Thanks again for your help in my trying to get
an understanding of postfix.


Once you start to understand Postfix it is a lot of fun. (^-°)


Sandy
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Re: [opensuse] wacom graphics tablet

2006-11-16 Thread Martin Pley
Hi,

On Wednesday 15 November 2006 18:16, Primm wrote:
 I have a wacom graphire 4 tablet working under 10.1. I activated the pen
 stylus under Yast and it added entries into /etc/X11/xorg.conf under input
 device.

 All works fine until I log out and log back in again. Then I lose the
 functionality that Yast introduced and I have to repoen Yast and reinstall
 it. It's as if xorg.conf isn't being read when it is restarted. I've tried
 rcxdm restart but still no joy.

 Is there anyway I can make the X11 settings 'stick' each time I go up to X
 without having to reinstall each time I want to use e.g. The Gimp?

Maybe it's related to bug #138311 ?

Kind regards
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[opensuse] Re: relay and smtp services in postfix

2006-11-16 Thread Joachim Schrod

Sandy Drobic wrote:

Joachim Schrod wrote:

Sandy Drobic wrote:


Usual advice is to use relay as transport for outgoing mail, so 
that incoming smtp connections do not use up all allowed smtp 
connections or vice versa.


Please allow us the opportunity to learn more about that.

This is caused by the maxproc column in master.cf, isn't it? But I 
have to confess that I didn't understand it, after reading the 
documentation.


Sigh, I am just typing this the second time due to power outage. Well, 
at least I know that my ups is cleanly shutting down all my systems.


Thanks a lot for your explanation which was very readable! I will be 
able to put it to good use at another mail server of mine that runs 
mailing lists.


And my sympathies for your bad neighbourhood digging experience -- I 
need to even more thank you that you took the time to type the 
explanation a second time.


Your explanations concerning postfix always rock, :-)

Joachim

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[opensuse] What do you use for LDAP entry management

2006-11-16 Thread Joachim Schrod

Hello,

I'm looking for recommendations for an LDAP client tool with a GUI, 
i.e., a tool to maintain LDAP entries. This tool should enable me to 
search, add and delete entries. I'm using SUSE 10.0 currently, but 
it's also OK if the tool is only available for 10.1. (Eventually, I 
will need to run it on SLES.)


The use case is not user or group management, but an LDAP server 
with server certificates. The target users are admins that will do 
this task rarely, therefore I would prefer a GUI.


I've seen that gq and luma exists on suser-guru/packman, and I have 
heard of LAT (http://dev.mmgsecurity.com/projects/lat/, existence 
SUSE rpm not known). LAT needs mono which makes for a quite big 
dependency.


Can anybody recommend one of these tools?
Is there another tool that I should know about and that could be used?

Thanks in advance for any answer,

Joachim

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[opensuse] Re: What do you use for LDAP entry management

2006-11-16 Thread Craig Millar
On 16/11/06 15:41 +0100, Joachim Schrod wrote:
 I'm looking for recommendations for an LDAP client tool with a GUI, 
 
 snip...

 I've seen that gq and luma exists on suser-guru/packman, and I have 
 heard of LAT (http://dev.mmgsecurity.com/projects/lat/, existence 
 SUSE rpm not known). LAT needs mono which makes for a quite big 
 dependency.

luma is ok for basic functionality, the best one I've seen so far is
jxplorer, originally from Computer Associates. It doesn't appear to have been
updated for a while, but have a look anyway: http://www.jxplorer.org/

Caveat: requires java.

hth
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Re: [opensuse] Re: What do you use for LDAP entry management

2006-11-16 Thread Matthias G. Eckermann
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 03:09:58PM + Craig Millar wrote:
 On 16/11/06 15:41 +0100, Joachim Schrod wrote:

  I'm looking for recommendations for an LDAP client tool with a
  GUI, 
  
  snip...
 
  I've seen that gq and luma exists on suser-guru/packman, and I
  have heard of LAT (http://dev.mmgsecurity.com/projects/lat/,
  existence SUSE rpm not known). LAT needs mono which makes for a
  quite big dependency.
 luma is ok for basic functionality, the best one I've seen so far is
 jxplorer, originally from Computer Associates. It doesn't appear to
 have been updated for a while, but have a look anyway:
 http://www.jxplorer.org/

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55394
has JXPlorer 3.2 RC 1 (2006-09-08)

so short
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Re: [opensuse] Why does kde-update overwrite personal settings?

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel Bauer
On Thursday 16 November 2006 14:07, Clayton wrote:
  After updating to the latest kde, many of my personal settings (like
  theme, styles, used fonts, screensaver etc.) have been
  overwritten/changed to some defaults and I had to reset them in kde
  control center manually. For some special settings not accessible via
  control center (like size of k-menu items) I must now search the mailing
  list archives, because I have forgotten how to do it meanwhile. This is
  quite a lot of work...

 I've bumped into this when I missed or removed one of the QT RPMs.  It
 was a long time ago (either 9.3 or 10.0), so can't exactly remember
 which one it was - I'm old and my remembery is failing me :-P  Once
 the missing/incorrectly built QT file was replaced, I had all my KDE
 settings returned to me.

 C.

Ah, this sounds interesting. After the update I tried to compile two apps, but 
configure stopped because of incompatible qt libs. After updating the qt 
libs the styles (I was asking for in another thread) now are back, too.

I just wonder, why Yast didn't complain about dependencies with the qt libs 
when I was updating the kde devel packages. 

Well, I guess there must be a reason I'd anyway not understand, in a while I'm 
gonna get old, too :-)

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Re: [opensuse] What do you use for LDAP entry management

2006-11-16 Thread Marcus Rueckert
hi,

phpldapadmin. it allows you to create nice templates for your own
objects.

darix

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[opensuse] LCD with CRT on laptop

2006-11-16 Thread Simon Roberts
Hi all,

I'm using SuSE 10.1 on a laptop, and I do a lot of presentations. I would like 
to have both the LCD and the external (VGA) monitor output working 
simultaneously all the time, or have an easy way to switch the external monitor 
output on and off.

As a complication, my system currently crashes if I change video mode!

Here's what I have so far.

If I boot without an external monitor connected, and attempt to use the (BIOS 
defined??) hot key sequence to toggle the external display, nothing happens.

If I boot with an external monitor connected, the external display is driven, 
and the LCD panel is shut off. I can't use the hot-key sequence to reactivate 
the panel (very irritating as the projector screen is usually behind me!)

On an older laptop by the same manufacturer (Toshiba) I found that if I booted 
with the external display connected, but then disconnected it after GRUB had 
done its thing, then plugged it back in after the login screen, then both 
screens would be live. This doesn't happen on the newer machine.

Most recently, I used SaX to try to enable DualHead mode. That has been 
partially successful. What I expected was two displays side by side with the 
mouse running between them. What I got is both displays running (at different 
resolutions) but showing identical output. Sounds good, right? Well only to a 
point.

The problem with this arrangement is that if I boot with the external display 
connected, all works great, but despite the amount of time I work in this mode, 
I still use the system more without an external display connected. If I boot 
without an external display, the LCD never powers up! So I can't see anything, 
and I can't even try to logout or shutdown the system... I have to force it off 
with the power switch (thank heavens for journaling file systems!)

Any suggestions?

TIA
Simon
 
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[opensuse] unsermake: wrong dependencies?

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel Bauer
Hello,

When I uninstall unsermake with Yast it complains about dependency conflics 
with kde-devel packages. On the other hand some apps cannot be compiled as 
long as unsermake is installed, because automake is needed. I had both 
installed here, but I had to uninstall unsermake first (ignoring 
dependencies) to make the compile successful.

Gilles, developper of digikam, wrote:
Like unsermake must be an automake program (fully compatible in fact), this 
depency is a non-sence.
(http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/2006-November/002413.html)

Is there any reason, why Yast insists on these dependencies or are they 
obsolete, and if so, could they be removed in future? *

kind regards

Daniel

* It's no problem to ignore the conflicts warning, but whenever installing 
just anything, Yast will automatically re-install unsermake due to the 
dependencies. It's just a little bit annoying, especially when I forget to 
de-install it again every time...
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[opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Moby
Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no 
updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0


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Re: [opensuse] unsermake: wrong dependencies?

2006-11-16 Thread Günter Lichtenberg
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:39, Daniel Bauer wrote:
 Hello,

 When I uninstall unsermake with Yast it complains about dependency conflics
 with kde-devel packages. On the other hand some apps cannot be compiled as
 long as unsermake is installed, because automake is needed. I had both
 installed here, but I had to uninstall unsermake first (ignoring
 dependencies) to make the compile successful.

Hi -
I don't know about the dependencies, but I could compile packages that 
complained about unsermake by just saying 'UNSERMAKE=no make', i.e. switching 
it off explicitely (that was in bash, in tcsh you might have to do a 'setenv 
UNSERMAKE no; make'). Maybe that's better than going through 
install/uninstall cycles...

Cheers
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Re: [opensuse] Software for putting together a website

2006-11-16 Thread Carl Hartung
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 22:37, Kai Ponte wrote:
snip

That was a nice summary, Kai. Thanks!

FYI, I just investigated a dormant Firefox extension I forgot I'd installed 
some time ago: Codetch (as in 'code' + 'etch'). Well worth looking at for 
customers/friends who need/want an easy to use WYSIWYG editor for static 
pages. It is also very easy to install:

Firefox - Tools - Extensions - Get More Extensions - Codetch

regards,

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Re: [opensuse] Activating routes

2006-11-16 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Wed, 15 Nov 2006, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wednesday November 15 2006 3:45 pm, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
  routes(5)
  DESCRIPTION
 The files /etc/sysconfig/network/routes   and /etc/sysconfig/net-
 work/ifroute-config  are  parsed  by  the  script /etc/sysconfig/net-
 work/scripts/ifup-route which sets up routing for an
  interface/configu- ration.
 
  Theo
 
 Theo,
 
 Only send to the opensuse@opensuse.org list. suse-linux-e is deprecated now 
 and will be killed off soon. Don't know if you know what I know but I 
 thought I'd let you know that your messages are in stereo...

The OP's message had in the headers:
# To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
[..]
# Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj
# X-Mailinglist: opensuse

I replied to opensuse, (but) Mutt put both in the To: field.

I can't help it if other people use the wrong address, and I don't
always see these mistaks myself.

From my previous post I'm sure you can see I do know thie suse-e
list has been deprecated.
Tnx for letting me know anyway.

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[opensuse] Beryl

2006-11-16 Thread Hans van der Merwe

Anyone got Beryl with AIGLX on Intel 945GM working on 10.1?
Ive installed and updated from
http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Linux_10.1/(for
Beryl stuff)
and
http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/  
 (for latest xorg stuff, weird dir name?)

I get Beryl to startup, splash-screen and then just white screen. Cube
works, but everything is just white.
Lots of howtos, but none working so far.



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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Moby



Daniel Bauer wrote:

On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:52, Moby wrote:
  

Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no
updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0

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I run subversion 1.2.3-2 on Suse 10.0.
it works.

Daniel
  

Thanks Daniel,
I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no 
updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, 
while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to 
uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from source.


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[opensuse] Cingular WWAN on Sony Viao w/ OPENSUSE 10.1

2006-11-16 Thread Michael Hieb
Does anyone have any clue how to get the EGPRS modem working on the Sony 
Viao VGN-SZ320P. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -a
Linux cipher 2.6.16.21-0.25-smp #1 SMP Tue Sep 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006 i686 
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I cannot even figure out what interface the modem is using.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] lspci -v

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 
945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81e6
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT 
Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: dc00-ddff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 
c000-cff0
Capabilities: [88] #0d []
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 
Enable+
Capabilities: [a0] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [140] Unknown (5)

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High 
Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81e6
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 74
Memory at de40 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 
Enable-
Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [130] Unknown (5)

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express 
Port 1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=05, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 2000-2fff
Memory behind bridge: d600-d7ff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 
d000-d1f0
Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 
Enable+
Capabilities: [90] #0d []
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5)

00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express 
Port 2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=06, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: de10-de1f
Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 
Enable+
Capabilities: [90] #0d []
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5)

00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express 
Port 3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=07, subordinate=07, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 3000-3fff
Memory behind bridge: d800-d9ff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 
d200-d3f0
Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 
Enable+
Capabilities: [90] #0d []
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5)

00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express 
Port 4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=08, subordinate=08, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 4000-4fff
Memory behind bridge: da00-dbff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 
d400-d5f0
Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit- Queue=0/0 
Enable+
Capabilities: [90] #0d []
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5)

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 
(rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81e6
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 193
I/O ports at 1800 [size=32]

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 
(rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
   

Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:27, Moby wrote:
 ...

 Thanks Daniel,
 I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no
 updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2,
 while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have
 to uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from
 source.

For the record, openSUSE 10.2 beta2 includes Subversion 1.4.0.


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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Moby wrote:
 Daniel Bauer wrote:
  On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:52, Moby wrote:
   Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no
   updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0
 I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no updates had
 been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, while the latest RPMs
 available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to uninstall SuSE's RPMs and
 install the latest Subversion from source.

I know that the SUSE developers do not always notice that packages have
newer versions.  I not that the one's I have add to bugzilla as a feature
request have all been updated.  Maybe someon should file a bug feature
request.

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:27, Moby wrote:
  ...
 
  Thanks Daniel,
  I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no
  updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2,
  while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have
  to uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from
  source.

 For the record, openSUSE 10.2 beta2 includes Subversion 1.4.0.


And there is allways the build service: 
http://software.opensuse.org/download/Subversion/

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[opensuse] Netpbm graphics manipulation procedures

2006-11-16 Thread Bob Stanfield
Folks,

I need to convert *.xwd files (X-Windows Dump) into something useful, such as
*.pnm files. Gimp works, but takes too much time processing each file.

1) There is a prcedure

xwdtopnm xygraf.xwd
xwdtopnm: can't handle X11 pixmap_format 1 with depth != 1

That message is mysterous. What does it mean?

2) I down-loaded netpbm-10.26.33.tgz by way of sourceforge.org , extract it
and began trying to build a more recent library of image manipulation
procedures. Next I get: 

./configure 
Cannot find the include files for SVGALIB.  Enter the directory where they
reside, or none.  If none, a default make will not build programs that require
the SVGALIB library.

What library? Where do I find it? Certianly nothing looks like it on my SuSE
10.1 disks.

Q1) Does anyone here know the answer to my problem?
Q2) If not, where to I start to ask questions?

Many thanks.

Bob Stanfield
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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-11-16 12:27:34 -0600, Moby wrote:
 I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no 
 updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, 
 while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to 
 uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from source.

no version for release products. use the buildservice if you want newer
packages. (url in another mail in this thread.)

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Moby



Marcus Rueckert wrote:

On 2006-11-16 12:27:34 -0600, Moby wrote:
  
I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no 
updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, 
while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to 
uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from source.



no version for release products. use the buildservice if you want newer
packages. (url in another mail in this thread.)

darix

  

Thanks Darix - good to know

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Re: [opensuse] Netpbm graphics manipulation procedures

2006-11-16 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 14:11 -0500, Bob Stanfield wrote: 
 Folks,
 
 I need to convert *.xwd files (X-Windows Dump) into something useful, such as
 *.pnm files. Gimp works, but takes too much time processing each file.

How about:

convert file.xwd file.pnm

It is part of ImageMagick, and comes with SUSE. It really is this easy.
Of course, there are a zillion options as well. I am assuming that these
formats are supported. Most all are.

 1) There is a prcedure
 
 xwdtopnm xygraf.xwd
 xwdtopnm: can't handle X11 pixmap_format 1 with depth != 1
 
 That message is mysterous. What does it mean?

xwdtopnm is a simple program. Maybe your dump has too many colors (
255).

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Re: [opensuse] Activating routes

2006-11-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Theo v. Werkhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-16-06 13:20]:
 The OP's message had in the headers:
 # To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
 [..]
 # Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj
 # X-Mailinglist: opensuse
 
 I replied to opensuse, (but) Mutt put both in the To: field.
 
 I can't help it if other people use the wrong address, and I don't
 always see these mistaks myself.

You were subscribed to both lists (in .muttrc) so mutt recognized both
as email-list addresses and did as it was directed/configured.

remove suse-linux-e from your subscription listing in your .muttrc and
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Re: [opensuse] one little irritation in my 10.1 install

2006-11-16 Thread jfweber
On Thursday 16 November 2006 08:37, Dylan wrote:
 On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can't find the place either in the yast2 settings and pages nor in the
  personal settings where one could add delete to the right click menus
  It's driving me insane!

 If you mean the context menu in Konqueror then on the first page of
 Konqueror's settings is:

 Show 'Delete' Context menu entries which bypass the wastebin

 Dylan
 Well you won the prize ! Colour me amazed that it's no longer in the pages of 
settings that once were all in one place. I'm hoping that they will manage to 
reunite all the settings in logical places. ( I'm sure there is logic behind 
some of the somewhat confusing changes.)

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[opensuse] input out of range at runlevel 3, but in X ... the display is fine

2006-11-16 Thread Peter Van Lone

The subject line describes the situation pretty well.

I've got a server that I cannot use with either a raritan KVM that has
an HP tft7210r monitor.

If I disconnect the server from the KVM, and hook it to an HP 1755 LCD
monitor, I get the input out of range message, unless I am in X
windows, where it works fine.

When I connect it to a CRT monitor (tried several different ones) it
works in both text and X windows.

For the stand alone monitor, I've gone into yast to configure the
graphic card and monitor, and it launches sax2 in what looks like a
graphical mode. I pick generic lcd monitor and give horizontal and
vertical values that are supported by the monitor, but ... as soon as
connect it to the lcd, the screen goes blank unless I am in X windows.
If I'm in X windows and then logout (so it bumps back to the console)
... then blank again.

When I'm at the console, it appears that the bash font is quite small,
which suggests that, somehow, the text mode graphics system is at a
high res? But I don't see any way to modify the text mode video
values.

For the KVM .. I don't know what to do, because I can't see the screen
in any mode ever. I've switch KVM connectors and ports and etc ... so
that is not it. All other servers (windows and netware) are fine.

I'm stuck, and folks are asking for the ability to get to the server
from the kvm ... what to do next?

Peter

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Re: [opensuse] LCD with CRT on laptop

2006-11-16 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 11:25, Simon Roberts wrote

 Most recently, I used SaX to try to enable DualHead mode. That has been
 partially successful. What I expected was two displays side by side with
 the mouse running between them. What I got is both displays running (at
 different resolutions) but showing identical output. Sounds good, right?
 Well only to a point.

 Any suggestions?
The answer to this question depends on the notebook you're using... and 
the 
projector...  and unfortunately they all do this thing differently.

First, the hotkey sequence to toggle between the external VGA and the 
TFT LCD 
is only partially bios, and in fact is designed to interface with a windoze 
driver [thnaks to  the M$ evil monopoly].  However, determining which output 
is active (on) by default is controlled (usually) by the bios only.

On my IBM ThinkPad R30 I set the bios display output to *BOTH* which by 
default sends the video output to both the LCD and the external VGA port. 
This works fine for the most part, however, there are a few catches which you 
have also run into. The first catch is video resolution on the output to the 
projector. Your laptop is configured (xorg.conf) for the LCD TFT monitor... 
and is not configured for VGA output to a tube. Fortunately most modern 
projectors are setup to sense and tune to whatever output it gets. (you 
need one of those projectors). My projector will sometimes come up in 800x600 
even though I am configured for 1024x768. The projector has a top side button 
that when pressed will toggle up to the next resolution (if available) and 
then display correctly. The second thing you'll probably run into is screen 
blanking or screen saver modes. When I am teaching and I need the projector 
to be up all the time I manually configure the bios (for that night) to use 
*BOTH* LCD and VGA. I manually disable xscreensaver (I don't use the KDE 
default) and I have the laptop bios set to *never* blank the screen (not turn 
off the CCFL backlight). 

Try looking at your bios settings (setup mode) for the laptop (which 
one is 
it?). Actually your dual head mode through SAX may be the best you are 
going to get with this setup. The next step is to get more personally 
acquainted with the projector you are using. You may even want to consider 
upgrading the projector (better lumens, auto sensing, tapazoid output 
[keystoning]... etc). Also, you might want to look closer at the dual head 
settings in SAX... I have not... and see if you have the option to 
individually configure the video to each head... 

Which projector is it...?Which notebook...?



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Re: [opensuse] input out of range at runlevel 3, but in X ... the display is fine

2006-11-16 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 15:39, Peter Van Lone wrote:
 The subject line describes the situation pretty well.

 I've got a server that I cannot use with either a raritan KVM that has
 an HP tft7210r monitor.

 If I disconnect the server from the KVM, and hook it to an HP 1755 LCD
 monitor, I get the input out of range message, unless I am in X
 windows, where it works fine.
snip
There are a couple of things to try. Connect the HP mon to the server 
directly and try to bring it up in run level 5. If you get the input out of 
range message, then press the key sequence  Ctrl + Alt + [+]   

The [+] key is the far right plus key on the numeric keypad. the 
sequence 
will toggle the video modes and will probably send a mode that the HP will be 
happy with. 

If the above works, then its time to get the server to come up in a 
default 
mode that the HP will be happy with, and you can do that manually by editing 
the xorg.conf file.  You will need to edit the file manually (not SaX, not 
Yast, etc) ...  consider the following hypothetical lines from an xorg.conf 
file :
clip
Section Screen
  DefaultDepth 24

  SubSection Display
Depth  24
Modes 800x600 768x576 640x480 1024x768
  EndSubSection

  Device   Device[0]
  Identifier   Screen[0]
  Monitor  Monitor[0]
EndSection
/clip
The Modes line for depth 24 has been manually changed to place the 
1024x768 
resolution last. By default the display will come up in run level 5 at 
resolution 800x600 with a 1024x768 virtual display. Also, all other 
resolutions have been removed... manually... I only have four of them coded.

You will need to find out which Modes resolution is offending the HP 
and 
remove it. Only provide the modes (you often have to do this manually) that 
are supported by the HP. Sometimes xorg.conf will have modes resolutions 
(extra ones you didn't configure in SaX) that are not supported by the 
monitor and which may cause problems.

One more thing... not all monitors, keyboards, and mice will work 
through KVM 
reliably... make sure that all of your hardware is compatible.





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Re: [opensuse] one little irritation in my 10.1 install

2006-11-16 Thread James Knott
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 I can't find the place either in the yast2 settings and pages nor in the 
 personal settings where one could add delete to the right click menus It's 
 driving me insane! 
   

It's in the Personal Settings - KDE Components  File Manager
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Re: [opensuse] input out of range at runlevel 3, but in X ... the display is fine

2006-11-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2006-11-16 at 15:39 -0600, Peter Van Lone wrote:

 When I'm at the console, it appears that the bash font is quite small,
 which suggests that, somehow, the text mode graphics system is at a
 high res? But I don't see any way to modify the text mode video
 values.

- From the kernel boot options in the grub configuration. For instance:

kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdd6 vga=0x317 selinux=0 splash=verbose 
resume=/dev/hdd7 showopts apic
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


You have some documentation in:

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
...Documentation/i386/boot.txt
...Documentation/svga.txt

Or use vga=ask to get a menu of possible values.

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[opensuse] How to start a service on ip up?

2006-11-16 Thread Praise
Hi all,

I am using OpenSuse 10.1, and a PPPoE connection configured with Yast2.
Everything is working correctly but ntp: when it starts, even if it starts 
after the network is up, is still too soon. The system is not connected to 
the internet, yet.
Once upon a time, if I put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local it got executed 
when I was connected. I wanted to add ntp starting there, but it does not get 
executed. 
Any hints?

TIA
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Re: [opensuse] How to start a service on ip up?

2006-11-16 Thread David Mayr
 I am using OpenSuse 10.1, and a PPPoE connection configured with Yast2.
 Everything is working correctly but ntp: when it starts, even if it starts
 after the network is up, is still too soon. The system is not connected to
 the internet, yet.
 Once upon a time, if I put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local it got executed
 when I was connected. I wanted to add ntp starting there, but it does not
 get executed.
 Any hints?


You could try the following in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local:

( ping -c1 ; sleep 5 ; /sbin/rcntp start ) 


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Re: [opensuse] How to start a service on ip up?

2006-11-16 Thread David Mayr
forgot something, sorry:

( ping -c1 heise.de ; sleep 5 ; /sbin/rcntp start ) 

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Re: [opensuse] How to start a service on ip up?

2006-11-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2006-11-17 at 00:22 +0100, Praise wrote:

 I am using OpenSuse 10.1, and a PPPoE connection configured with Yast2.
 Everything is working correctly but ntp: when it starts, even if it starts 
 after the network is up, is still too soon. The system is not connected to 
 the internet, yet.
 Once upon a time, if I put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local it got executed 
 when I was connected. I wanted to add ntp starting there, but it does not get 
 executed. 

Because it gets run by the ppp daemon, ie, for modem connections.

 Any hints?

I think you might put your script in /etc/sysconfig/network/if-up.d and/or 
/if-down.d. My guess is that a symlink there to /etc/init.d/ntp would 
work. You need GLOBAL_POST_UP_EXEC=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network/config

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Re: [opensuse] Netpbm graphics manipulation procedures

2006-11-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2006-11-16 at 14:11 -0500, Bob Stanfield wrote:

 ./configure 
 Cannot find the include files for SVGALIB.  Enter the directory where they
 reside, or none.  If none, a default make will not build programs that require
 the SVGALIB library.
 
 What library? Where do I find it? Certianly nothing looks like it on my SuSE
 10.1 disks.

I think it was included time ago, but not now; so build without it.

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Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-16 Thread Mike McMullin
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 01:47 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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 The Wednesday 2006-11-15 at 17:54 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
 
This has me curious about one thing.  Would it not be possible to
  create the required root partition and rsync the data back onto it, from
  a removable media or mounted .iso image?
 
 Why not?

  I must confess that I was late in reading the thread, but from the
solution posted in the article that I responded to, I thought there
might be an easier way of doing the migration.  I'm planning on a hard
drive upgrade, and I may migrate from Reiser to EXT3 if it is as robust
as I've found Reiser to be.

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Re: [opensuse] Reiser Linux - FYI

2006-11-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2006-11-16 at 18:55 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:

 This has me curious about one thing.  Would it not be possible to
   create the required root partition and rsync the data back onto it, from
   a removable media or mounted .iso image?
  
  Why not?
 
   I must confess that I was late in reading the thread, but from the
 solution posted in the article that I responded to, I thought there
 might be an easier way of doing the migration.  I'm planning on a hard
 drive upgrade, and I may migrate from Reiser to EXT3 if it is as robust
 as I've found Reiser to be.
 

Have a look at this howto: 
/usr/share/doc/howto/en/txt/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.gz

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[opensuse] Inspiron 9400 question about shrinking partition

2006-11-16 Thread John Pierce

I just got a dell inspiron 9400 core 2 duo and it has windows xp
installed.  If I shrink the partition and install opensuse will this
affect the windows xp installation, such as not make it bootable.

Any thoughts or assistance is greatly appreciated.

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[opensuse] kubuntu question

2006-11-16 Thread Doug McGarrett
I know a lot of kubuntu questions appear here.  I have
submitted my subscription to their list, but so far have not
heard anything back.  So I pose the question here:

I got some Kubuntu discs a little while ago, and I would like to
try them on my XP computer, which presently has a separate HD
with Suse 10.0 on it.  (I have another computer dedicated at the
moment to Suse 9.3.)  I will blow off Suse 10.0 and install Kubuntu, 
but I have questions:  

First, all the Kubuntu discs have the same stuff on the label--
Version 6.06 LTS, but no sequence number. How do I find 
disc 1, etc.? (All the disks seem to have a readme file which
in each case says disknum 1.) 

Is this safe to do with whatever the Kubuntu installer does?
I definitely do not want to lose my XP disc and partition. I 
have some important information on there, as well as some music
from before they shut Napster down.  (Stuff that's NOT available 
on media that's presently in print or for sale anywhere.)

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Re: [opensuse] Inspiron 9400 question about shrinking partition

2006-11-16 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:47, John Pierce wrote:
 I just got a dell inspiron 9400 core 2 duo and it has windows xp
 installed.  If I shrink the partition and install opensuse will this
 affect the windows xp installation, such as not make it bootable.
Yes...

The reason is that Suse's partition shrinking software does not 
correctly 
support NTFS partitions, and XP is usually preinstalled on an NTFS partition. 

The think you want to do is use another package (Partition Magic) to 
shrink 
the NTFS partition *first* and then install Suse.





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Re: [opensuse] Inspiron 9400 question about shrinking partition

2006-11-16 Thread rudolf
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 19:05 -0600, M Harris wrote:
 On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:47, John Pierce wrote:
  I just got a dell inspiron 9400 core 2 duo and it has windows xp
  installed.  If I shrink the partition and install opensuse will this
  affect the windows xp installation, such as not make it bootable.
   Yes...
 
   The reason is that Suse's partition shrinking software does not 
 correctly 
 support NTFS partitions, and XP is usually preinstalled on an NTFS partition. 
 
   The think you want to do is use another package (Partition Magic) to 
 shrink 
 the NTFS partition *first* and then install Suse.

I have installed SUSE on machines that had WindowsXP with disks
formatted as NTFS without any problems. The partition shrinking worked
and the machines booted in WindowsXP or SUSE as advertised. Your mileage
my vary. As ever, if you have valuable data, make backup first.

Rudolf 

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Re: [opensuse] kubuntu question

2006-11-16 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:52, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 I know a lot of kubuntu questions appear here.  I have
 submitted my subscription to their list, but so far have not
 heard anything back.  So I pose the question here:
No... you should not post Ubuntu questions here. Having said that, I 
will 
still try to help you... cause I'm a geek hacker and I love Ubuntu... and I'm 
currently angry at navell for climbing into bed with M$... but that's another 
story.

 I got some Kubuntu discs a little while ago, and I would like to
 try them on my XP computer, which presently has a separate HD
 with Suse 10.0 on it.  (I have another computer dedicated at the
 moment to Suse 9.3.)  I will blow off Suse 10.0 and install Kubuntu,
 but I have questions:  
No no no... blow off windoze XP and keep both Suse 10 and Ubuntu... 
then if 
this silly snafu between navell and M$ doesn't work out... you can drop Suse 
also.

 First, all the Kubuntu discs have the same stuff on the label--
 Version 6.06 LTS, but no sequence number. How do I find
 disc 1, etc.? (All the disks seem to have a readme file which
 in each case says disknum 1.)
My Ubuntu disk in a DVD... contains the full version of 6.06 LTS and 
is 
contained on one (1) disk... very convenient... the Ubuntu folks will mail 
you a disk, or if you want you can purchase Sam's Ubuntu Unleashed and get 
the disk in the back cover... I recommend this for Ubuntu newbies because I 
think Andrew Hudson and Paul Hudson have done an outstanding job with the 
book... neither here nor there... I am going to assume (perhaps wrongly) that 
only one of the CDs you have is bootable?  Having said that... I must admit 
that I have never seen a CD set for Ubuntu... only the DVD.

 Is this safe to do with whatever the Kubuntu installer does?
 I definitely do not want to lose my XP disc and partition. I
 have some important information on there, as well as some music
 from before they shut Napster down.  (Stuff that's NOT available
 on media that's presently in print or for sale anywhere.)
No

Never, and I mean never, experiment with a production or critical 
system. 

*never*

Having said that... it probably isn't going to hurt you... but remember 
what 
I said... *never*.






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Re: [opensuse] Inspiron 9400 question about shrinking partition

2006-11-16 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 16 November 2006 19:14, you wrote:
 Ok! I do not own partition magic, are there any reliable foss
 solutions for the problem?

 Since I do not have any windows installations I do not want to do away
 with this factory install, I want to tinker with the beast.  I have
 been windows free since 1998.
Due respects to rudolf... but NTFS is not supported (well its supported 
in 
read only mode) and the shrinking software on the system I setup for my 
daughter clobbered the NTFS partition... end of story.

I had a similar problem with my daughter's HP s7400n slimline system 
that we 
setup for college. She wanted to keep the XP partition (just in case) to 
tinker with it, or in case she ran into a situation at the college where 
something would only *work* there... anyway, she mostly does Suse 10 and has 
never needed the partition, but I will relay the story just the same.

As stated earlier the shrinking software *did not* handle the partition 
correctly and it would not bootup again. Fortunately for her, HP provides a 
backup partition that can be loaded from bios that will restore the factory 
preload in case of catastrophe... and that worked fine.  What I did for her 
was to format the shrunk partition and then install Suse 10 on the remainer 
of the drive. Then I used DD to save the MBR to a file. Then I reinstalled 
the factory software from the backup partition, and then restored the Linux 
MBR.  This all worked fine. 

As it turned out... she is now M$ free as well and has finally lost her 
paranoia about *maybe* needing windoze... so it was a lot of work for 
nothing... she is happily writing papers with OpenOffice, emailing with 
Thunderbird, and Surfing with Firefox... and she has *never* had a system 
crash yet...

Go for it... wipe out the XP partition... you'll never miss it. Oh, by 
the 
way, did I mention that her factory preloaded software from HP was almost 
entirely a marketing gig?  Yeah, most of the system was a teaser... try 
this for a while then download the real thing for some more BIG bucks... and 
most of it (except the lame windoze games) come preloaded and fully 
functional in Suse 10. Go ahead... tinker with it...  then blow it away.





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Re: [opensuse] LCD with CRT on laptop

2006-11-16 Thread Simon Roberts

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Subject: Re: [opensuse] LCD with CRT on laptop

On Thursday 16 November 2006 11:25, Simon Roberts wrote

 Most recently, I used SaX to try to enable DualHead mode. That has been
 partially successful. What I expected was two displays side by side with
 the mouse running between them. What I got is both displays running (at
 different resolutions) but showing identical output. Sounds good, right?
 Well only to a point.

 Any suggestions?
The answer to this question depends on the notebook you're using... and the 
projector...  and unfortunately they all do this thing differently.

First, the hotkey sequence to toggle between the external VGA and the TFT 
LCD 
is only partially bios, and in fact is designed to interface with a windoze 
driver [thnaks to  the M$ evil monopoly].  However, determining which output 
is active (on) by default is controlled (usually) by the bios only.

On my IBM ThinkPad R30 I set the bios display output to *BOTH* which by 
default sends the video output to both the LCD and the external VGA port. 
This works fine for the most part, however, there are a few catches which you 
have also run into. The first catch is video resolution on the output to the 
projector. Your laptop is configured (xorg.conf) for the LCD TFT monitor... 
and is not configured for VGA output to a tube. Fortunately most modern 
projectors are setup to sense and tune to whatever output it gets. (you 
need one of those projectors). My projector will sometimes come up in 800x600 
even though I am configured for 1024x768. The projector has a top side button 
that when pressed will toggle up to the next resolution (if available) and 
then display correctly. The second thing you'll probably run into is screen 
blanking or screen saver modes. When I am teaching and I need the projector 
to be up all the time I manually configure the bios (for that night) to use 
*BOTH* LCD and VGA. I manually disable xscreensaver (I don't use the KDE 
default) and I have the laptop bios set to *never* blank the screen (not turn 
off the CCFL backlight). 

Try looking at your bios settings (setup mode) for the laptop (which one is 
it?). Actually your dual head mode through SAX may be the best you are 
going to get with this setup. The next step is to get more personally 
acquainted with the projector you are using. You may even want to consider 
upgrading the projector (better lumens, auto sensing, tapazoid output 
[keystoning]... etc). Also, you might want to look closer at the dual head 
settings in SAX... I have not... and see if you have the option to 
individually configure the video to each head... 

Which projector is it...?Which notebook...?


-

Well, it's not my projector, it belongs to the folks I'm teaching. That's 
usually the case, and didn't used to cause any trouble. 

The notebook is a Toshiba A105-S4324.

The dual head/clone mode I'm currently using is driving 1280x800 to the LCD and 
1024x768 to the external display. That's really quite a nice touch, and I'd be 
a happy bunny if it would boot normally with that mode selected but the 
external video disconnected. When I try that, I seem to end up with a blank 
LCD. Very odd, and clearly rather incapacitating.

I guess my problem is my video card in some way, or perhaps the driver. I 
have--as I understand it--an Intel
Intel GMA950 video card. It appears to be using the i810 module for XFree86. 
The SaX configuration greys out the optiions to select between clone and 
xinerama modes, so I guess that it's not capable of generating different data 
on each of the two physical screens. I can live with that if that's the case, 
though I'm a little suprised that what I thought was a modern card can't do 
that.

I'll play with the bios settings over the weekend, but from what you say, I 
might do better just fixing the change video mode crash and using the 
dual-head option. Or better yet, just finding out how to boot it with the dual 
head mode when the external display isn't connected.

Thanks again for the input,
Simon


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Re: [opensuse] kubuntu question

2006-11-16 Thread steve reilly
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On Thursday 16 November 2006 19:52, Doug McGarrett wrote:



you go NOW.



 I know a lot of kubuntu questions appear here.  I have
 submitted my subscription to their list, but so far have not
 heard anything back.  So I pose the question here:

 I got some Kubuntu discs a little while ago, and I would like to
 try them on my XP computer, which presently has a separate HD
 with Suse 10.0 on it.  (I have another computer dedicated at the
 moment to Suse 9.3.)  I will blow off Suse 10.0 and install Kubuntu,
 but I have questions:

 First, all the Kubuntu discs have the same stuff on the label--
 Version 6.06 LTS, but no sequence number. How do I find
 disc 1, etc.? (All the disks seem to have a readme file which
 in each case says disknum 1.)

 Is this safe to do with whatever the Kubuntu installer does?
 I definitely do not want to lose my XP disc and partition. I
 have some important information on there, as well as some music
 from before they shut Napster down.  (Stuff that's NOT available
 on media that's presently in print or for sale anywhere.)

 --tia--doug

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Re: [opensuse] kubuntu question

2006-11-16 Thread Frank Arnold
One disk is all you need.
The rest of the install, if needed, can be done on-line.
Frank Arnold


On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 19:52 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 I know a lot of kubuntu questions appear here.  I have
 submitted my subscription to their list, but so far have not
 heard anything back.  So I pose the question here:
 
 I got some Kubuntu discs a little while ago, and I would like to
 try them on my XP computer, which presently has a separate HD
 with Suse 10.0 on it.  (I have another computer dedicated at the
 moment to Suse 9.3.)  I will blow off Suse 10.0 and install Kubuntu, 
 but I have questions:  
 
 First, all the Kubuntu discs have the same stuff on the label--
 Version 6.06 LTS, but no sequence number. How do I find 
 disc 1, etc.? (All the disks seem to have a readme file which
 in each case says disknum 1.) 
 
 Is this safe to do with whatever the Kubuntu installer does?
 I definitely do not want to lose my XP disc and partition. I 
 have some important information on there, as well as some music
 from before they shut Napster down.  (Stuff that's NOT available 
 on media that's presently in print or for sale anywhere.)
 
 --tia--doug
 
 

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[opensuse] help with dns

2006-11-16 Thread Ryan McCain
hello,

i currently have a dns server that resolves about 500 hosts in
domain1.com. i need to now work towards migrating all current records to
domain2.com. over the next year or so, i will also need to keep these
domains in sync. ie: serverA.domain1.com has the same ip address as
serverA.domain2.com.

what is the best way to handle this? DNAME records??

thanks, ryan
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