[opensuse] What script does user creation in SuSE10.2

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Hi list,

- what script (I assume it's a script, not a binary) is run when a new user is 
created using YaST. I'm looking for the script(s) that creates the homedir, 
copies /etc/skel and all the other stuff...
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Re: [opensuse] multiple vhosts need ssl

[Gaël Lams]

Hi,


Running apache2 and using vhost-ssl.conf to host ssl sites, however I need
three different sites (different domain names) using ssl on port 443 and I
only see the ability to host one in the conf file. For example, the below
entries in vhosts-ssl.conf show a path to the ssl certificate for,
presumably, one site;


You know that you will have to use three different ip addresses, do
you? If you don't, have a look at apache's documentation



 #   Server Certificate:
#   Point SSLCertificateFile at a PEM encoded certificate.  If
#   the certificate is encrypted, then you will be prompted for a
#   pass phrase.  Note that a kill -HUP will prompt again.  Keep
#   in mind that if you have both an RSA and a DSA certificate you
#   can configure both in parallel (to also allow the use of DSA
#   ciphers, etc.)
SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl.crt/server.crt
#SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl.crt/server-dsa.crt

#   Server Private Key:
#   If the key is not combined with the certificate, use this
#   directive to point at the key file.  Keep in mind that if
#   you've both a RSA and a DSA private key you can configure
#   both in parallel (to also allow the use of DSA ciphers, etc.)
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl.key/server.key
#SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl.key/server-dsa.key


How would you set this up for three separate certificates and three separate
keys?


Just point to different files, this one is an example

Regards,

Gaël

Re: [opensuse] Scanner-Fax-Printer for Linux

[Alexey Eremenko]

I have just bought HP OfficeJet 5610 - an excellent thing - works on
openSUSE 10.2 like a charm - autodetected by Yast - both scanning and
printing was setup within 1 minute!

Our previous UMAX 3600 scanner doesn't works with Linux at All (due to
lack of drivers), so we had to dual-boot to Windows each time we
wanted to scan.

Now it makes a BIG difference to have scanning available under Linux too !

Software: (Front-ends)
I have found only 3 apps that support scanning: GIMP, Xsane, and KDE Kooka.

I'm unhappy due to the fact that I expected scanning capabilities from
Krita and KolourPaint, but they have none.

Can someone point me to more applications, that support scanning? please.

-Alexey
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[dwain]

BandiPat wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007, dwain wrote:
>   
>> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
>> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would
>> be interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>>
>> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
>> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk
>> me through the process?  i know the software is available, and i
>> think it's loaded on my machine.
>>
>> is it that complicated?
>>
>> dwain
>>
>> --
>> 
>
> Dwain,
> Check out the program "krpmbuilder".  I believe it shows up in 
> Development in your menu.  It will be a great help in building a proper 
> rpm with spec file and help you in better understanding what is going 
> on with the process.
>
> Grab a couple of spec files from other programs source to compare and 
> get a feel for the process.  I think you'll find yourself up to your 
> armpits in compiling very quickly.
>
> regards,
> Lee
>
>
>   
i just installed it and with the "maximum rpm" link i should be pulling
my hair out very soon. ;-)

i have also emailed guru pascal, so i'm on my way!  thanks for the
support.  it is much appreciated.

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

[Jan Karjalainen]

Greg Freemyer wrote:

On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greg Freemyer escribió:
>
> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?

Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting 
market".


We have different definitions of "one of the best"

From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data.
===
[arizona]$ time du -sh *
120Mconfig-enc-raw
387Mhome-enc-raw
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw

real64m27.529s
user0m0.650s
sys 0m2.540s

===
From my server with significantly larger superset of data:

# time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/
120Mconfig-enc-raw/
10G home-enc-raw/
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw/

real1m33.608s
user0m0.568s
sys 0m5.148s
===

Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special
(ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup).

I'm still testing.  (I need to time some actual rsync passes.  I'm
particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.)



If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.


I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk 
capacity

.
Greg

Re: Amazon S3
There's also Synchronize 
(http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/applications/synchronize.html), which is 
a part of JetS3t http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html.



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Re: [opensuse] zmd woes, part N

[kanenas]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 13:36, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 
> It more than likely is not a problem with the update system as much as a
> problem with your update source.  I'll bet if you check your source with
> a browser you will find the same, it has not been updated.  Sad but too
> often true these days.
Thanks Joe, but please read on

> > The 32 bit partition still glows orange this week, i guess i will
> > test that tonight.
>
> Try changing to the same update source as your 32 bit box.
>
> > BUT, Yast on line update found and is right now installing
> > security updates on the kernel, oo, and php, a Yast2 printer patch and a
> > couple of other patches, all sounding rather important
>
> On your x86_64 box?  With the same update source?
>
YESS!!! And that is why I claim that the point of no return has been 
reached(:


> > It is my
> > understanding that yast and zmd get the update info from the same source,
> > is that not true?
>
> That is true.

That is a hard bit to swallow.

>
 
> I would still recommend to switch to opensuseupdater from zen-updater
> (do it from Yast with the patterns, unselect zmd based updater to
> opensuse updater).  It is much easier on the CPU.

oh, zmd & co are definitely out now in my x86-64. But, as I have said in other 
posts, i think that the x86-64 version might be more buggy than the 32 bit, 
so i will experiment more with the 32 bit version. I hope it works better 
than x86-64. 'cause, if i am more happy with freebsd 6.2 lately installed as 
a vm-machine, i will switch  to it in the next 3-6 months.
 I want something stable.
For God's sake, even my os2 /deskview (mid ninenties, folx)  setup was far 
more stable than my 64 bit 10.2, I ran a business on it...

>
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Re: [opensuse] User authentication with LDAP, your experience?

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Joachim Schrod wrote:
> Are there any further trapfalls that I might fall into? Real-life
> experience about problems that were not obvious at first?

In my experience, yast does a very good job of setting up
LDAP on a SLES box, tieing everything together.  In fact I wouldn't
attempt to run SLES without ldap because there are too many
things that are tied into ldap.

At first I tried to go around it, and do things the normal suse way.
Bad Idea.  


> What do you use to manage LDAP users and groups? YAST?
Yes, Yast is best, as it seems to have all th bases covered.
I've accessed and updatd the ldap server with a windows based client
client, but saw no advantage to running that than just running
text mode yast in a shell.


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Re: [opensuse] public and private key locations

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Carl Hartung wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I created a GnuPG key pair a few years ago on my SuSE 8.2 box. I've since
> upgraded, added/reconfigured drives and partitions and reinstalled SUSE
> countless times and I *thought* I'd managed to save the key pair, under
> ~/.gnupg/, by copying the entire directory to a backup location and copying
> it back to my home directory, as needed. Now I'm trying to use the
> *private* key in another application... I'm supposed to be able to browse
> to and select it... but it seems I'm only able to locate the *public* key.
>
> Where is the private key supposed to be stored?
>
> TIA & regards,
>
> Carl

usually in your ~/.ssh directory.

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Re: [opensuse] zmd woes, part N

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Michael Nelson wrote:
> I hope they salt the earth wherever it was conceived, so nothing will ever
> grow there again.

No, the last I checked those Gnome heads were still employed
by Novell.

Their one time to shine.  They blew it big time.

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[BandiPat]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007, dwain wrote:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would
> be interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>
> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk
> me through the process?  i know the software is available, and i
> think it's loaded on my machine.
>
> is it that complicated?
>
> dwain
>
> --

Dwain,
Check out the program "krpmbuilder".  I believe it shows up in 
Development in your menu.  It will be a great help in building a proper 
rpm with spec file and help you in better understanding what is going 
on with the process.

Grab a couple of spec files from other programs source to compare and 
get a feel for the process.  I think you'll find yourself up to your 
armpits in compiling very quickly.

regards,
Lee


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[opensuse] printing size mismatch with magicolor 2530DL

[Ross P. Davis]

Using 10.0 OSS and the RPM supplied by Konica Minolta
(2530DL2.0.0-1.i386.rpm), I am able to print to a networked magicolor
2530DL. But whenever I print, the LCD on the printer reads "SIZE
MISMATCH" and the printer seems to try to print on a larger paper size
despite everything being configured for "Letter" size.

When this has happened with other printers, I usually find that "A4" has
been defaulted somewhere; changing to "Letter" gets things working
properly. But in this case, I cannot find any place where "A4" is being
specified...

lpoptions -p magicolor -l | grep A4
PageRegion/PageRegion: Letter Legal Executive A4 A5 ISOB5 UKQuarto
Foolscap Folio Com10 DL C5 Monarch Statement JPostcard DPostcard C6
JISB5 16Kai 32Kai EnvChou3 EnvChou4 EnvYou4 GovtLegal LetterPlus
GovtLetter 16_K Photo_4x6 Photo_10x15
PageSize/Paper Size: *Letter Legal Executive A4 A5 ISOB5 UKQuarto
Foolscap Folio Com10 DL C5 Monarch Statement JPostcard DPostcard C6
JISB5 16Kai 32Kai EnvChou3 EnvChou4 EnvYou4 GovtLegal LetterPlus
GovtLetter 16_K Photo_4x6 Photo_10x15 Custom

One weird thing I noticed is that it seems to be impossible to set a
default for both PageRegion and PageSize. As in, if /etc/cups/lpoptions
reads:

Default magicolor PageRegion=Letter PageSize=Letter

Then I'll see "*Letter" in PageSize but just "Letter" in PageRegion. But
if /etc/cups/lpoptions reads:

Default magicolor PageSize=Letter PageRegion=Letter

Then I'll see just "Letter" in PageSize but "*Letter" in PageRegion.
Something I'm not understanding there.

Anyway, I've checked the ppd...

grep -i default /etc/cups/ppd/magicolor.ppd | grep Letter
*DefaultPageSize: Letter
*DefaultPageRegion: Letter
*DefaultImageableArea: Letter
*DefaultPaperDimension: Letter

I've tried using the web interface to configure/print, but still get the
same problem. Can someone lend advice before I blow all my toner on test
pages?

Thanks,
Ross
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[Coach-X]

>>>
>> I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
>> book on the RPM system. "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey. Unfortunately,
>> I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.
>>
>> good luck with the project. --doug
>>
> thanks for the info ... and the luck, i'll need it.
> 
> dwain

http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/
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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[Cristian Rodriguez R.]

Flextron escribió:
> Hi list,
> 
> I need to create a new user so the batch process can be easily recognised, 
> Does anybody know how to create a user that has ALL rights to execute ALL 
> commands ? (using PAM...?)

the answer to your question can be obtained with the following commands

man sudo
man sudoers

do not use anything else for that, you have been warned.





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Re: [opensuse] What software responsible for process update-status?

[Rajko M.]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 20:35, Terry Eck wrote:
> I notice there is a process called "update-status". Anyone know what
> software is responsible
> for this process? If it is beagle or zdm then what is the safest way of
> removing either/both
> packages.
>
> As a side note, I would like to replace zmd with the old YOU updater
> icon in the taskbar.
> If anyone has done this can they tell me how?

I did it for sure, at least few of my postings claim that :-)

Go to YaST Software management 
look for 
  opensuseupdater
mark it for installation,
mark for removal zmd, zen-updater, zen-installer, rug
click on Accept, if you see unresolved dependency window insist that above 
should be removed, and that would be all.

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[opensuse] ext2online issues ...

[LDB]

Has anyone ever seen the below with SuSE 10.2?


fish:/home/ldb # ext2online /dev/system/testlv 1g
ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b
ext2online: warning - device size 512000, specified 1048576
error: Invalid argument: seeking to 1073740800


Any ideas on how to debug?


Thanks,

LDB
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Re: [opensuse] What software responsible for process update-status?

[Joe Shaw]

Hi,

On 3/20/07, Terry Eck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I notice there is a process called "update-status". Anyone know what
software is responsible
for this process? If it is beagle or zdm then what is the safest way of
removing either/both
packages.


This program is part of the zypp helpers for zmd.  I think the package
is something like libzypp-zmd-backend.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[Dave Crouse]

Yes, I have done this with RHEL3 . but the second root user was
only for accessing files with liberal use of chown to correct any
owner errors after changing some files with the 2nd user.

As for anything "special" .. not really, I just don't recommend doing
it. In fact I don't even remember WHY we did it...  If you going to
use it, you might as well use root anyway. The better way of course is
to assign the user to the correct groups and solve the issue that way.

Crouse
Site Admin.
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On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:50 -0500, Dave Crouse wrote:
> In general I would STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT do this
> however... if your bent on doing it -- do it at your own risk.
>
> Before making any changes BACKUP any files you might be editing.
>
> Local user accounts are stored in:  /etc/passwd
> copy the root line.paste it back in right under the original root
> linechanging the "root" to "whatever" in that second line will
> give you a second user with UID 0

Have you ever actually done this and had a working system?

I have seen several reports of the various ways in which the system dies
subsequent to this kind of effort, so I would be interested if you have
a 'known good' recipe.

And to the OP - you have been warned, repeatedly! Don't do this.

Cheers, Dave

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Re: [opensuse] Modem setup problem.

[Rajko M.]

On Monday 19 March 2007 23:20, Tommy Lim wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> The list show no modem at all. What should I do now? I am new to
> opensuse.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tommy
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 00:14 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 12:00 +0800, Tommy Lim wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just installed Opensuse 10.2 on my Compaq presario V3040TU.
> > > Everything running just fine. But my modem doesn't show up in the
> > > hardware list. What happen actually?
> >
> >   It could be a win-modem.  What do you get from running lspci in a
> > terminal?

Hi Tommy,

What desktop you are using, KDE or GNOME? 
For KDE console (ie. terminal) you can see when you click on Main Menu. 
To switch to root user (administrator) use 
  Session -- New Root Shell
First what you will see is word: 
  Password: 
give root password here. 
On prompt type:
  lspci
look for line that has something like:
00:07.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01)

That should provide enough information for further help. 
BTW, if you see almost the same as above than there is help on:
  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/
it is not for free, but you can get free version that has some features 
limited. 

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[opensuse] What software responsible for process update-status?

[Terry Eck]

I notice there is a process called "update-status". Anyone know what 
software is responsible
for this process? If it is beagle or zdm then what is the safest way of 
removing either/both

packages.

As a side note, I would like to replace zmd with the old YOU updater 
icon in the taskbar.

If anyone has done this can they tell me how?

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Re: [opensuse] opensuse updater

[Rajko M.]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 15:15, Robert Lewis wrote:
> It's a pitty that unclicking the RPM doesn't allow the ORB to turn
> normal but maybe it will
> in some future offering.
>
> Cheers,
> Bob

The opensuseupdater is different application.
What you see is zen-updater, that has, for me, big problem:
missing function to ignore some update forever, and permanent orange whether 
there are security updates or just newer versions of programs that I don't 
want. 

I use opensuseupdater that is not installed by default in 10.2.
It is only notification applet for security updates. 
If you click on install in notification popup it will start good old YOU (YaST 
Online Update).   

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[opensuse] public and private key locations

[Carl Hartung]

Hi All,

I created a GnuPG key pair a few years ago on my SuSE 8.2 box. I've since 
upgraded, added/reconfigured drives and partitions and reinstalled SUSE 
countless times and I *thought* I'd managed to save the key pair, under 
~/.gnupg/, by copying the entire directory to a backup location and copying 
it back to my home directory, as needed. Now I'm trying to use the *private* 
key in another application... I'm supposed to be able to browse to and select 
it... but it seems I'm only able to locate the *public* key.

Where is the private key supposed to be stored?

TIA & regards,

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Rajko M.]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 12:56, Robert Lewis wrote:
> Jerry Feldman wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:58:42 -0600
> >
> > Donald D Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
> >> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
> >> something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
> >> of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
> >> current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
> >> solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
> >> identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
> >> my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
> >> Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.
> >
> > Try ctrl-alt-Esc. That brings up a skull and crossbones. Click it in
> > the offending window and you will kill the process.
> >
> > From the command line:
> > ps ax | grep -i firefox
> > then
> > kill -9 
> >
> > Normally I use kill -TERM first, and if that does not kill the process,
> > then use -9.
>
> How about in KDE  which brings up a skull and crossbow.
> However over the GUI you want killed and press the left mouse button.
>
> Bob

That is last resort as it performs 
  kill -9 
which is instruction to kernel to terminate process, which doesn't allow 
process to save status, like  
  kill # this actually performs the same as next lines
  kill -15 
  kill -TERM 
that is signal to process that is time to quit. 
If after that some minute or so, application doesn't exit, and you have 
reasons to believe, like in above example, that it doesn't work than apply 
skull and crossed bones, or 
  kill -9 

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Re: [opensuse] Ploting functions

[Jos van Kan]

Lívio Cipriano wrote:
> His there any program or utility in Linux that plots the graphic of a given 
> equation?
scilab
It comes with the distro and has all the functionality of matlab except that the
price is right. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Opening ports in the Firewall

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2007-03-20 18:01, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> I'm downloading the installer for WOW and I need open up ports 3724
> and 6112?
>
>   
The Yast firewall module is broken (in versions 9.3 through 10.2) when
it comes to opening ports on the external interface, so you'll have to
use the sysconfig editor: Click on System in the left column, then
"/etc/sysconfig editor" on the right. In the window that opens next,
expand the following tree: Network/Firewall/SuSEfirewall2, then find
FW_SERVICES_EXT_TCP, and add those two ports to whatever list is already
present. The list is space-delimited. If the installer needs to use UDP
as well, enter the port numbers into FW_SERVICES_EXT_UDP also. Click
"Finish" to save the data and restart the firewall.

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[opensuse] multiple vhosts need ssl

[James D. Parra]

Hello,

Running apache2 and using vhost-ssl.conf to host ssl sites, however I need
three different sites (different domain names) using ssl on port 443 and I
only see the ability to host one in the conf file. For example, the below
entries in vhosts-ssl.conf show a path to the ssl certificate for,
presumably, one site;


 #   Server Certificate:
#   Point SSLCertificateFile at a PEM encoded certificate.  If
#   the certificate is encrypted, then you will be prompted for a
#   pass phrase.  Note that a kill -HUP will prompt again.  Keep
#   in mind that if you have both an RSA and a DSA certificate you
#   can configure both in parallel (to also allow the use of DSA
#   ciphers, etc.)
SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl.crt/server.crt
#SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl.crt/server-dsa.crt

#   Server Private Key:
#   If the key is not combined with the certificate, use this
#   directive to point at the key file.  Keep in mind that if
#   you've both a RSA and a DSA private key you can configure
#   both in parallel (to also allow the use of DSA ciphers, etc.)
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl.key/server.key
#SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl.key/server-dsa.key


How would you set this up for three separate certificates and three separate
keys?

Many thanks,

James 
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[opensuse] Re: Create another root user

[Jonathan Arnold]

Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:50 -0500, Dave Crouse wrote:
>> In general I would STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT do this
>> however... if your bent on doing it -- do it at your own risk.
>>
>> Before making any changes BACKUP any files you might be editing.
>>
>> Local user accounts are stored in:  /etc/passwd
>> copy the root line.paste it back in right under the original root
>> linechanging the "root" to "whatever" in that second line will
>> give you a second user with UID 0
> 
> Have you ever actually done this and had a working system?
> 
> I have seen several reports of the various ways in which the system dies
> subsequent to this kind of effort, so I would be interested if you have
> a 'known good' recipe.
> 
> And to the OP - you have been warned, repeatedly! Don't do this.
> 
> Cheers, Dave

FWIW, FeeBSD systems come pre-installed with the 'toor' user, which is identical
to the root user, but often it uses bash as the default shell (which isn't in
the base installation).  This enables you to have another root user you can
log in as if you know all the mounts worked okay, that uses a "better" shell
than your basic 'sh' (which is not bash on FreeBSD).

$ cat /bsd/root/etc/passwd

# $FreeBSD: src/etc/master.passwd,v 1.40 2005/06/06 20:19:56 brooks Exp $
#
root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh
toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/usr/sbin/nologin


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[opensuse] Opening ports in the Firewall

[Adam Jimerson]

I'm downloading the installer for WOW and I need open up ports 3724
and 6112?

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail memory

[Doug McGarrett]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:34, Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:12, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > Kmail has "memorized" some addresses that I typed in in error, and even
> > manufactured a couple, AFAICT.  Is there a list of these somewhere that I
> > can edit, and if so, where?  (I don't have an address book, altho I
> > should, and some day I'll figure out how to make one.)
> >
> > --doug
>
> When you start a new email.RIGHT click on the TO field and down at
> the bottom will be a selection  "Edit recent addresses"
>
> Edit to your hearts content.

Thanx.  Works fine.  --doug
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Re: [opensuse] Laser Colour Printer recomendation

[raz0r]

On 3/20/07, Robert Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lívio Cipriano wrote:
>> On 20 March 2007 03:14, russbucket wrote:
>>
>
>
>>  I understand this is the newer Xerox technology.
>>
>
> I think it's not such a new technology. I worked with one of these printers
> back 1995. But the perspective of "forget the consumables" sounds nice.
>
>
While they are GREAT printers, I own 2 older models for
home use, my wife prints hundreds of brochures at a time
for her real estate business. Buy only Xerox ink sticks, there
is a documented problem with 3rd party ink reacting with
Xerox's ink and clogging the very expensive ink jet head.
I am probably going to buy a newer one soon, just because
 they are so low maintenance

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Xerox mentioned the problem with 3rd party suppliers for the ink
blocks.   Figured the price difference wasn't enough to try the 3rd
party ink blocks.  Managed to get the printer with 512MB for around
$1,000.  Try to get an HP with 512MB of ram and duplexing for that
price.
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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[Dave Howorth]

On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:50 -0500, Dave Crouse wrote:
> In general I would STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT do this
> however... if your bent on doing it -- do it at your own risk.
> 
> Before making any changes BACKUP any files you might be editing.
> 
> Local user accounts are stored in:  /etc/passwd
> copy the root line.paste it back in right under the original root
> linechanging the "root" to "whatever" in that second line will
> give you a second user with UID 0

Have you ever actually done this and had a working system?

I have seen several reports of the various ways in which the system dies
subsequent to this kind of effort, so I would be interested if you have
a 'known good' recipe.

And to the OP - you have been warned, repeatedly! Don't do this.

Cheers, Dave

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Re: [opensuse] zmd woes, part N

[Michael Nelson]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:38:24PM +, Benji Weber wrote:

> Indeed, if you uninstall ZMD (and those which depend on it,
> zen-updater, rug etc) you will have opensuse-updater instead, which
> works fine. ZMD will not be installed by default on 10.3 (It is
> already removed in the alphas).

I hope they salt the earth wherever it was conceived, so nothing will ever
grow there again.

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"God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to
tell him is "Probably because of something you did." -- Jack Handy

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[Patrick Shanahan]

* dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-20-07 18:12]:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
> 
> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think
> it's loaded on my machine.

You might want to touch hands with Pascal Bleser 
as he is currently providing Inkscape rpms for openSUSE.

Name: inkscape Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 0.45  Vendor: (none)
Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Mon 05 Feb 2007 
10:47:36 AM EST
Install Date: Tue 06 Feb 2007 07:56:01 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
Group   : Productivity/Graphics/Vector Editors   Source RPM: 
inkscape-0.45-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
Size: 143862159License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 05 Feb 2007 10:48:36 AM EST, Key ID af734c5a58857177
Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.inkscape.org
Summary : Inkscape Vector Illustration Program


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Re: [opensuse] Ploting functions

[drek]

Lívio Cipriano wrote:
> Hi Ricardo
>
>   
>> On 20 March 2007 09:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>> 
>>  "Octave: A Free, High-Level Language for Mathematics
>>  By Malcolm Murphy on Tue, 1997-07-01 01:00. Software
>> 
>
>I've discover QtiPlot, which is presented as a Octave clone. Anyway, I'm 
> going to give a look to the other alternatives that you mentioned.
>   
QtiPlot is really a great program, but isn't an Octave clone. It is an Origin 
clone. I use it a lot.

André

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Re: [opensuse] zmd woes, part N

[Benji Weber]

On 3/20/07, kanenas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


that not true? If it is, we might as well take the new update system out and
put it out of it's misery, if it isn't, why don't we take it out any way and
shoot it, it *stilll* is totally incapable. Yes, it had me fooled for over
2.5 months, alas it finally decided to show it's true colors...


Indeed, if you uninstall ZMD (and those which depend on it,
zen-updater, rug etc) you will have opensuse-updater instead, which
works fine. ZMD will not be installed by default on 10.3 (It is
already removed in the alphas).

_
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Re: [opensuse] zmd woes, part N

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

kanenas wrote:
> Don't know where to find server stack traces on  my computer, but the 
> blue/white globe has not turned orange in about a month in my x86-64 
> partition. 
It more than likely is not a problem with the update system as much as a
problem with your update source.  I'll bet if you check your source with
a browser you will find the same, it has not been updated.  Sad but too
often true these days.
> The 32 bit partition still glows orange this week, i guess i will 
> test that tonight. 
Try changing to the same update source as your 32 bit box.
> BUT, Yast on line update found and is right now installing 
> security updates on the kernel, oo, and php, a Yast2 printer patch and a 
> couple of other patches, all sounding rather important 
On your x86_64 box?  With the same update source?
> It is my 
> understanding that yast and zmd get the update info from the same source, is 
> that not true? 
That is true.
> If it is, we might as well take the new update system out and 
> put it out of it's misery, if it isn't, why don't we take it out any way and 
> shoot it, it *stilll* is totally incapable. Yes, it had me fooled for over 
> 2.5 months, alas it finally decided to show it's true colors...
>
>   
I would still recommend to switch to opensuseupdater from zen-updater
(do it from Yast with the patterns, unselect zmd based updater to
opensuse updater).  It is much easier on the CPU.

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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[David Bolt]

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:-

>On Tuesday 20 March 2007 15:50, Dave Crouse wrote:
>> In general I would STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT do this
>   Strong words... good words...
>
>   ... if you are tempted to do it... read them again...

And keep doing so until the temptation has passed.


Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] zmd woes, part N

[kanenas]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 05:08, Janne Karhunen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's this (10.2, x86-64):
>
> System.NullReferenceException: A null value was found where an object
> instance was required.
>
> Server stack trace:
>   at Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.PackageManager.GetUpdates
> (Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Catalog catalog) [0x0]
>   at Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.PackageManager.GetUpdates ()
> [0x0]
>   at Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.Packaging.RemotePackageMa
>
> Seen this in several boxes lately. What's up?
>
>
> --
> // Janne

Don't know where to find server stack traces on  my computer, but the 
blue/white globe has not turned orange in about a month in my x86-64 
partition. The 32 bit partition still glows orange this week, i guess i will 
test that tonight. BUT, Yast on line update found and is right now installing 
security updates on the kernel, oo, and php, a Yast2 printer patch and a 
couple of other patches, all sounding rather important It is my 
understanding that yast and zmd get the update info from the same source, is 
that not true? If it is, we might as well take the new update system out and 
put it out of it's misery, if it isn't, why don't we take it out any way and 
shoot it, it *stilll* is totally incapable. Yes, it had me fooled for over 
2.5 months, alas it finally decided to show it's true colors...

d.
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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

[David Brodbeck]

Greg Freemyer wrote:
> --size-only also seems like a bad idea.  They don't say why they
> recommend it.

Probably speed.  If you use --size-only rsync only has to check the size
of each file; it doesn't have to checksum them to see which ones have
changed.

As you say, probably a bad idea.  It's not hard to think of scenarios
where you could edit a file and end up with the same size.

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[Richard Bos]

Op Tuesday 20 March 2007 23:05:55 schreef dwain:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.

have a look at http://software.opensuse.org/ -> repository 0r web interface

> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
> loaded on my machine.
>
> is it that complicated?

Yes and no.  You have to learn, that's for sure.  See above link for more 
information.


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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

[Greg Freemyer]

On 3/20/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Greg Freemyer escribió:
> > Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
>
> Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting
> market".
>
> If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.

They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help
you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.

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Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive.
Usual Disclaimers apply.



I must be blind.

Even their ultra-small 100MB of disk space package is 144 euros/year.

I see the 20GB VPS for 99 euros/month.

No mention of anything bigger, but I suspect they have significantly
raised their prices since you signed up.

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Re: [opensuse] Strange update results

[peter nikolic]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007, peter nikolic wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > peter nikolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Hi folks .
> > >
> > > I have a strange one here .
> > >
> > > This box is running  openSUSE 10.3 alpha2plus   from the downloaded DVD
> > > iso then automatically updated .
> > >
> > > The NVidia driver has failed to behave  (not too bothered about that
> > > right now)  the ral strange one i cant solve is
> > >
> > > I can browse the web using Konkeuer  but if i try to use Seamonkey
> > > Mozilla or firefox  i am unable to browse unless i enter the IP address
> > > of the site i want to visit  ie 216.239.59.104  for google.co.uk .
> >
> > Are you running on x86-64?  See the most annoying bugs list for Alpha2
> > and follow the link to bugzilla, there's a solution for this problem.
> > Seems that we have a IPv6 bug on x86-64,
> >
> > Andreas
>
> Hi   Andreas   .
>
> Yes it's 64 bit.. I'll have a look at the link thanks ..
>
> Pete .


Worked like a charm  thanks ..



Pete .
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[dwain]

Doug McGarrett wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:05, dwain wrote:
>   
>> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
>> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
>> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>>
>> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
>> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
>> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
>> loaded on my machine.
>>
>> is it that complicated?
>>
>> dwain
>>
>> --
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>> Alford Design Group
>> P.O. Box 145
>> Winfield, Alabama  35594
>>
>> telephone:  205-487-2570
>> cell:  205.495.5619
>>
>> email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> web:http://www.alforddesigngroup.com
>>
>> 
>
> I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
> book on the RPM system.  "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey.  Unfortunately,
> I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.
>
> good luck with the project.  --doug
>   
thanks for the info ... and the luck, i'll need it.

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail memory

[Bruce Marshall]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:12, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> Kmail has "memorized" some addresses that I typed in in error, and even
> manufactured a couple, AFAICT.  Is there a list of these somewhere that I
> can edit, and if so, where?  (I don't have an address book, altho I should,
> and some day I'll figure out how to make one.)
>
> --doug

When you start a new email.RIGHT click on the TO field and down at the 
bottom will be a selection  "Edit recent addresses"

Edit to your hearts content.
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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

[Greg Freemyer]

On 3/20/07, Jan Karjalainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

John Andersen wrote:
> On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
>
>> Greg Freemyer escribió:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
>>>
>> Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting
>> market".
>>
>> If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
>>
>
> They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help
> you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.
>
> Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of
> Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive.
> Usual Disclaimers apply.
>
>
>
I use Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), which is cheap and fast!
http://aws.amazon.com/s3

I recommend using JungleDisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) for easy
access to your S3 repository.

/J


I was just looking thru the JungleDisk forum.  It says they support
rsync, but only with the --inplace arg and they are recommending
--size-only.

--inplace would cause a file to be lost if my computer crashed in the
middle of transferring it.  Not exactly what I need in a DR offsite
repository.  (They say rsync normally needs a rename capability and S3
doesn't support it (as of June 06).  --inplace eliminates the
requirement.).

--size-only also seems like a bad idea.  They don't say why they recommend it.

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail memory

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 17:29, Brad Bourn wrote:
> In Kmail...
>
> Settings->Configure Kmail->Composer->General->Edit Recent Adresses
no fair...

... where does it hide them


(ya gotta put both up there if you're gonna use the gooey)
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Re: [opensuse] John Backus Dead at 82

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 14:15, M Harris wrote:
> John Backus died today. He is the programmer in the 1950's
> who pioneered high level programming languages by inventing the
> Fortran language for the IBM 701.

More importantly (arguably), he gave us the notation we use to describe 
virtually all computer languages (and not just programming languages, 
but everything whose form is sequential and governed by rules that must 
be formalized and whose recognition / validation automated), the 
so-called Backus-Naur form.


> He was 82.
> ...
> M Harris


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Re: [opensuse] Kmail memory

[Brad Bourn]

In Kmail...

Settings->Configure Kmail->Composer->General->Edit Recent Adresses


B-)

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 3:28 pm, M Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 17:12, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > Kmail has "memorized" some addresses that I typed in in error, and even
> > manufactured a couple, AFAICT.  Is there a list of these somewhere that I
> > can edit, and if so, where?  (I don't have an address book, altho I 
should,
> > and some day I'll figure out how to make one.)
>   You'll need to poke around in 
> 
>   ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [opensuse] Kmail memory

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 17:12, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> Kmail has "memorized" some addresses that I typed in in error, and even
> manufactured a couple, AFAICT.  Is there a list of these somewhere that I
> can edit, and if so, where?  (I don't have an address book, altho I should,
> and some day I'll figure out how to make one.)
You'll need to poke around in 

~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/



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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

[Doug McGarrett]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:05, dwain wrote:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>
> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
> loaded on my machine.
>
> is it that complicated?
>
> dwain
>
> --
> Dwain Alford
> Alford Design Group
> P.O. Box 145
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>
> telephone:  205-487-2570
> cell:  205.495.5619
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I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
book on the RPM system.  "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey.  Unfortunately,
I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.

good luck with the project.  --doug
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[opensuse] John Backus Dead at 82

[M Harris]

John Backus died today. He is the programmer in the 1950's who 
pioneered high level programming languages by inventing the Fortran language 
for the IBM 701.

He was 82.


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[opensuse] Kmail memory

[Doug McGarrett]

Kmail has "memorized" some addresses that I typed in in error, and even 
manufactured a couple, AFAICT.  Is there a list of these somewhere that I
can edit, and if so, where?  (I don't have an address book, altho I should,
and some day I'll figure out how to make one.) 

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[opensuse] making rpms

[dwain]

i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.

as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
loaded on my machine.

is it that complicated?

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] Strange update results

[peter nikolic]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> peter nikolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi folks .
> >
> > I have a strange one here .
> >
> > This box is running  openSUSE 10.3 alpha2plus   from the downloaded DVD
> > iso then automatically updated .
> >
> > The NVidia driver has failed to behave  (not too bothered about that
> > right now)  the ral strange one i cant solve is
> >
> > I can browse the web using Konkeuer  but if i try to use Seamonkey  
> > Mozilla or firefox  i am unable to browse unless i enter the IP address
> > of the site i want to visit  ie 216.239.59.104  for google.co.uk .
>
> Are you running on x86-64?  See the most annoying bugs list for Alpha2
> and follow the link to bugzilla, there's a solution for this problem.
> Seems that we have a IPv6 bug on x86-64,
>
> Andreas

Hi   Andreas   .

Yes it's 64 bit.. I'll have a look at the link thanks ..

Pete .

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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

[Greg Freemyer]

On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greg Freemyer escribió:
>
> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?

Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".


We have different definitions of "one of the best"


From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data.

===
[arizona]$ time du -sh *
120Mconfig-enc-raw
387Mhome-enc-raw
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw

real64m27.529s
user0m0.650s
sys 0m2.540s

===

From my server with significantly larger superset of data:


# time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/
120Mconfig-enc-raw/
10G home-enc-raw/
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw/

real1m33.608s
user0m0.568s
sys 0m5.148s
===

Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special
(ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup).

I'm still testing.  (I need to time some actual rsync passes.  I'm
particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.)



If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.


I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk capacity
.
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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] How 'bout them Packers?

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 15:11, M Harris wrote:
>    I resemble that...  

... or like this...   < :)
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Donald D Henson]

What a rapid response from so many. The best part is that most of the
advice is consistent. It seems that I have been dealing with the GUI too
much. I should use the CLI more often. Thanks for all the help.

Donald D. Henson, Managing Director
West El Paso Information Network
The "Non-Initiation of Force Principle" Rules



Donald D Henson wrote:
> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
>  will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to
> have something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another
> instance of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either
> close the current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a
> good solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli
> command to identify a process id and another one to kill a process.
> I've searched my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those
> two commands. Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.
>




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[opensuse] Perspectives on Free and Open Source Software

[M Harris]

(see Slashdot today...)


http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11216&mode=toc

The book (linked above) from MIT "Perspectives on Free and Open Source 
Software" is an interesting read and also a free (as in price) download. 
Sample chapters can be read before you decide to download.

Cheers





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Re: [opensuse] Strange update results

[Andreas Jaeger]

peter nikolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi folks .
>
> I have a strange one here .
>
> This box is running  openSUSE 10.3 alpha2plus   from the downloaded DVD iso 
> then automatically updated . 
>
> The NVidia driver has failed to behave  (not too bothered about that right 
> now)  the ral strange one i cant solve is 
>
> I can browse the web using Konkeuer  but if i try to use Seamonkey   Mozilla 
> or firefox  i am unable to browse unless i enter the IP address of the site i 
> want to visit  ie 216.239.59.104  for google.co.uk .

Are you running on x86-64?  See the most annoying bugs list for Alpha2
and follow the link to bugzilla, there's a solution for this problem.
Seems that we have a IPv6 bug on x86-64, 

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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 14:47, M Harris wrote:
> The wheel group is a unix legacy thing...  it allows users in the
> wheel group to have access to root ( su sudo ) in a more controlled way.
Sorry forgot something important...

... you will need to add the pam wheel.so module to the auth config of 
su and 
sudo in the directory /etc/pam.d



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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 15:50, Dave Crouse wrote:
> In general I would STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT do this
Strong words... good words...

... if you are tempted to do it... read them again...





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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

[Dave Crouse]

In general I would STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT do this
however... if your bent on doing it -- do it at your own risk.

Before making any changes BACKUP any files you might be editing.

Local user accounts are stored in:  /etc/passwd
copy the root line.paste it back in right under the original root
linechanging the "root" to "whatever" in that second line will
give you a second user with UID 0 ...thus allowing root access to
everything as well. If you have shadow passwords enabled (most people
seem too) then open up /etc/shadow .do the same thing again...
copy the root line, paste it underneath...changing "root" to
"whatever" again.  Log in with your "whatever" screen name, and change
your password so it's not the same as the original root password.
Having 2 users with UID 0 can I believe cause some issues with
ownership of files .. so , don't say I didn't warn you.

Crouse
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I need to create a new user so the batch process can be easily recognised,
Does anybody know how to create a user that has ALL rights to execute ALL
commands ? (using PAM...?)


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Re: [opensuse] Create another root user

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On Tuesday 20 March 2007 15:11, Flextron wrote:
> I need to create a new user so the batch process can be easily recognised,
> Does anybody know how to create a user that has ALL rights to execute ALL
> commands ? (using PAM...?)
Create any user you want to... add them to the wheel group, and run the 
batch 
jobs from a crontab (su - thatuser).

The wheel group is a unix legacy thing...  it allows users in the wheel 
group 
to have access to root ( su sudo ) in a more controlled way.  





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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:17:52 -0500
M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 12:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > >   kill -9 
> >
> > Absolutely a bad idea. Many programs have clean-up operations to
> > perform. This guarantees those clean-up actions will not take place.
> >
> > Signal TERM or 15 is the clean way to kill a process. Only resort to
> > KILL or 9 when TERM does not cause the process to terminate.
>   Yup, except that what we are talking about here is a process that won't 
> die...  kill -9  is the ONLY way to get it to happen.
> 
>   Another way to say this is that if SIGTERM will kill the process then 
> you 
> probably didn't need to be in an xterm window running the kill command in the 
> first place. The usual reason for a process to "refuse to die" is that it is 
> no longer correctly performing signal handling, so giving it the SIGTERM is 
> useless. 
>   
>   kill -9  is the only way to go in these situations.
The difference is that SIGTERM is a catchable signal, and should
generally be tried first because the process can clean itself up. If
that does not work, then by all means use SIGKILL (-9) as it is not
catchable by the process. 

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[opensuse] Strange update results

[peter nikolic]

Hi folks .

I have a strange one here .

This box is running  openSUSE 10.3 alpha2plus   from the downloaded DVD iso 
then automatically updated . 

The NVidia driver has failed to behave  (not too bothered about that right 
now)  the ral strange one i cant solve is 

I can browse the web using Konkeuer  but if i try to use Seamonkey   Mozilla 
or firefox  i am unable to browse unless i enter the IP address of the site i 
want to visit  ie 216.239.59.104  for google.co.uk .

I have been thru the entire configs  and can not find ant problems  the DNS 
settings are correct  (a laptop connected to the same network works fine with 
the same settings)  all machines on this network use DHCP for there IP's  i 
use 2 external Nameservers and the backup of the namesrver on my router  
internal IP's are of the 192.168.1.*  range , resolve.conf is correct  i am 
at a total loss right now  Oh and email works as well obviously as i am using 
it to send this mail ..


Cheers   Pete .

(It looks like it is going to be cold here tonight 2 gritting wagons in the 
time iy has taken to type this )
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse updater

[Robert Lewis]

Don Raboud wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 11:19, Robert Lewis wrote:
>   
>> With the opensuse updater (blue orb that turns orange when something is
>> ready to receive)
>> there are two updates being offered that I don't want as they insist on
>> ekiga being
>> removed.  These are CVS updates for opal and pwlib.  I unclicked them to
>> keep from
>> having them loaded.  However, the orb remains orange.
>>
>> I have checked with both the maintainer of ekiga and packman and am told
>> not to use
>> these CVS versions as they are not compatible with ekiga.  There not
>> coming from packman
>> either or guru.  I think they are coming from one of the repositories at
>> SUSE that
>> I have added but am not 100% sure.
>>
>> Opal
>>   Open Phone Abstraction Library
>>   Catalog: 20070206-121527 Type: Package
>>
>> pwlib
>>   Portable Windows Library from Equivalence Pty. Ltd.
>>   Catalog: 20070206-121527 Type: Package
>>
>> 1) How can one tell which repository is offering what package?
>> 
>
> From the command line 'rug sl' should tell you what repository the catalog 
> number corresponds to.  (Rug is the command line interface to zmd.)
>
>   
>> 2) How can I turn off a package so that the orb turns normal but that
>>  if a newer one shows up that I am alerted?
>> 
>
> I don't think that is possible at present (without removing the entire 
> catalog).
>
>   
Thanks, the catalogue is:
3 | Active | ZYPP | 20070206-121527 |
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo

The report truncates the full path.  I am pretty sure it is "oss/suse"
on the end.
Someone at SUSE should become aware that both Opal and pwlib CVS versions
here are causing this problem.  

It's a pitty that unclicking the RPM doesn't allow the ORB to turn
normal but maybe it will
in some future offering.

Cheers,
Bob
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[opensuse] Create another root user

[Flextron]

Hi list,

I need to create a new user so the batch process can be easily recognised, 
Does anybody know how to create a user that has ALL rights to execute ALL 
commands ? (using PAM...?)


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[opensuse] Beagle project in build service

[Joe Shaw]

Hi,

I wanted to let everyone know that we recently added a Beagle project
to the openSUSE Build Service.  It contains the latest versions of
Beagle and related programs like the Kerry Beagle KDE client, and
KBeagleBar.  It's kept up-to-date with the latest upstream releases.

Packages and repodata can be found here:

   http://software.opensuse.org/download/Beagle/

and if you have an account in the build service, you can visit the
project page here:

   http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=Beagle

If anyone is interested in contributing more packages to the project,
just let me know and I'll be happy to add you.

The current version of Beagle is 0.2.16.3, and it's the version we'll
be shipping in SLED 10 Service Pack 1.  While there are some new
features included, our real focus has been on reliability and
performance.  If you've had trouble with Beagle in the past, I
encourage you to try this new release and give feedback.  And as
always, if you encounter problems, please file a bug at
bugzilla.novell.com.

Thanks,
Joe
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 14:36, you wrote:
> Clicking in the close box of a window does not send SIGTERM, it uses the
> X event mechanism to inform the process that owns the window of the
> user's action.
Yup, except that is not what we're talking about here... we don't have 
a 
window with an X on it... we have a message saying that Firefox still has a 
process running... and the process is either 1) not really running, or 2) has 
stopped signal handling. These kind of processes will not respond to a 
SIGTERM ever waste of time.

> >   kill -9  is the only way to go in these situations.

> It is never advisable to SIGKILL without first trying SIGTERM unless you
> explicitly mean to thwart the program's clean-up activities.

Well, semantics aside I suppose it can't hurt anything... but in 
practical 
experience I've never ever ever seen it work either...  (for this situation).

But now that we've been talking about it for a few minutes I suppose 
there is 
the danger that someone would read all this crap and start using kill -9 
 as the generic rule... and then our consciences would cause lost sleep 
and such... not a good thing... ok, ok, SIGTERM everything!  (no, I refuse to 
give in...)   ~SIGKILL








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Re: [opensuse] Laser Colour Printer recomendation

[Robert Cunningham]

Lívio Cipriano wrote:
>> On 20 March 2007 03:14, russbucket wrote: 
>> 
>
>   
>>  I understand this is the newer Xerox technology.
>> 
>
> I think it's not such a new technology. I worked with one of these printers 
> back 1995. But the perspective of "forget the consumables" sounds nice.
>
>   
While they are GREAT printers, I own 2 older models for
home use, my wife prints hundreds of brochures at a time
for her real estate business. Buy only Xerox ink sticks, there
is a documented problem with 3rd party ink reacting with
Xerox's ink and clogging the very expensive ink jet head.
I am probably going to buy a newer one soon, just because
 they are so low maintenance

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[opensuse] Re: Help Killling Process

[Jonathan Arnold]

Donald D Henson wrote:
> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
> something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
> of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
> current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
> solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
> identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
> my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
> Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.

It probably doesn't actually have a process running. It sees the file

~/.mozilla/firefox/05uz5zzz.default/.parentlock

and thinks it is still running (so even a reboot might not fix it). If
you don't actually see a firefox  process, try deleting that file (using,
of course, your own special .default folder).

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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 12:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >   kill -9 
>
> Absolutely a bad idea. Many programs have clean-up operations to
> perform. This guarantees those clean-up actions will not take place.
>
> Signal TERM or 15 is the clean way to kill a process. Only resort to
> KILL or 9 when TERM does not cause the process to terminate.
Yup, except that what we are talking about here is a process that won't 
die...  kill -9  is the ONLY way to get it to happen.

Another way to say this is that if SIGTERM will kill the process then 
you 
probably didn't need to be in an xterm window running the kill command in the 
first place. The usual reason for a process to "refuse to die" is that it is 
no longer correctly performing signal handling, so giving it the SIGTERM is 
useless. 

kill -9  is the only way to go in these situations.


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Re: [opensuse] Advice on mobile video card

[Matthias Titeux]

Le Mardi 20 Mars 2007 15:43, Clayton a écrit :
> > - ATI radeon mobility X1400 256Mb + Hypermemory
> > - Nvidia Geforce Go 7300 256Mb + Turbocache
>
> (snip)
>
> > Although, I know that Nvidia is generally a better choice for Linux, I do
> > have a laptop with an ATI X600 card that performs well under OpenSUSE
> > 10.2 (XGL, beryl, compiz works),
>
> My advice is always opt for nVidia where you can IF you plan on
> running the binary drivers.  If you run the OpenSource drivers, then
> either card is fine.
>
> I've had very mixed success with ATI (sometimes I get it working first
> try and on other systems it never works right), and the general
> consensus here and pretty much anywhere is to avoid ATI on Linux if at
> all possible.  nVidia (in my case anyway) works every single time when
> I use the binary driver RPMs from the repository.
>
> C.

Thank you Clayton for your answer,

I did not have any positive feedback on this particular ATI card, so I think I 
will go for the Nvidia one !

Regards

Matthias

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Re: [opensuse] usb device problem

[John ffitch]

This seems to be a very unwelcome change!  The answer is ivman.  My
friend says...


Install ivman.

start ivman:
ivman &

Put

'$hal.block.device$'" />

'$hal.block.device$'" />

in ~/.ivman/IvmConfigBase.xml

This now mounts stuff under /media.  It looks like we can just 

pull the
usb key and the system umounts and clears up after us.  Probably 

good idea

to
  cd; sync
before that, though.



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Re: [opensuse] opensuse updater

[Don Raboud]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 11:19, Robert Lewis wrote:
> With the opensuse updater (blue orb that turns orange when something is
> ready to receive)
> there are two updates being offered that I don't want as they insist on
> ekiga being
> removed.  These are CVS updates for opal and pwlib.  I unclicked them to
> keep from
> having them loaded.  However, the orb remains orange.
>
> I have checked with both the maintainer of ekiga and packman and am told
> not to use
> these CVS versions as they are not compatible with ekiga.  There not
> coming from packman
> either or guru.  I think they are coming from one of the repositories at
> SUSE that
> I have added but am not 100% sure.
>
> Opal
>   Open Phone Abstraction Library
>   Catalog: 20070206-121527 Type: Package
>
> pwlib
>   Portable Windows Library from Equivalence Pty. Ltd.
>   Catalog: 20070206-121527 Type: Package
>
> 1) How can one tell which repository is offering what package?

From the command line 'rug sl' should tell you what repository the catalog 
number corresponds to.  (Rug is the command line interface to zmd.)

> 2) How can I turn off a package so that the orb turns normal but that
>  if a newer one shows up that I am alerted?

I don't think that is possible at present (without removing the entire 
catalog).

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Re: [opensuse] Advice on mobile video card

[Michael Werner]

Matthias Titeux schrieb:

Hi,
I would like to have some advice on the choice of a laptop.
It is a Dell Inspiron 6400 (15.4" screen), and it is available with two 
different video cards

- ATI radeon mobility X1400 256Mb + Hypermemory
- Nvidia Geforce Go 7300 256Mb + Turbocache

The ATI is slightly cheaper and google seems to say that this card has better 
spec than the nvidia one.


Although, I know that Nvidia is generally a better choice for Linux, I do have 
a laptop with an ATI X600 card that performs well under OpenSUSE 10.2 (XGL, 
beryl, compiz works), but still the old Nvidia on the desktop (GF Ti4200) is 
easier to handle (when updating kernel...)
The SUSE hardware database list the ATI card as fully supported through the 
proprietary driver.


So, my question is ... is someone happy with this ATI card under SUSE linux ?
Since it costs less and seems more performant, if I have good feedbacks I 
might try ATI for this laptop.


Thanks in advance

Regards

Matthias


  

If you  plan to use cedega or wine to play games you should take NVIDIA.
As i remember the ATI-Souftware tools are better then NVIDIAs.
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Re: [opensuse] Information about @opensuse.us email address's

[Dave Crouse]

Thanks for the info Michael.  Can you elaborate any more ?  The
subject of @opensuse.org email address's has been ongoing for over a
year.  I don't have all the information archived from emails before
04/06 to search ...but noticed it had been mentioned more than once.

Currently have about 200 people setup with opensuse.us email
addresses.   The one thing that might set them apart, is there is no
requirements to speak of for someone to get one. Anyone that wants
one, is eligible.  Will there be requirements to an @opensuse.org
email address ??? Just curious as to how that process might end up
working.

Thanks,

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Hi,
>Information about @opensuse.us email address's

>Greetings from the forum world ;) I posted this on the
>opensuse-project list as well. Forgive me for the double post, it
>appears very few people are subscribed to that mailing list. This list
>appears to be the list I should have posted too. I am not a frequent
>mailing list poster, I hang out in the forum world much more than I do
>here. I am however subscribed to almost all of the mailing lists and
>have replied a few times here and there when I could be of some small
>help.

>Opensuse.us is a forum for opensuse users everywhere. We have setup email
>addresses for opensuse users, and it's available for anyone that wants
>to sign up. Space is limited .. unless google smiles upon us and
>gives us more if we need them. ;)
The openSUSE.org project or better said Product Marketing inside Novell is
working on community engagement program which will include email adresses
@openSUSE.org and other stuff.

FYI ;-)

Michael

>I realize that these are not the opensuse.org email address's that
>people would prefer, but it's not "too" far off. It's the best I
>could do, and I hope it's well received. It seemed many people wanted
>to have/use opensuse.org emails, and since they were not available to
>the public/or users  we would try in some small way to fill the
>void.

>Currently have 2,000 @opensuse.us email accounts to dispense. First
>come first serve basis, will probably be able to obtain more once
>these have been handed out... but I make no promises.

>Interested ? Want one ? Anyone that is part of the opensuse community
>(irc/forums-any of them/mailing lists) can get one if they want

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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Robert Lewis]

Jerry Feldman wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:58:42 -0600
> Donald D Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
>> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
>> something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
>> of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
>> current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
>> solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
>> identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
>> my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
>> Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.
>> 
> Try ctrl-alt-Esc. That brings up a skull and crossbones. Click it in
> the offending window and you will kill the process.
>
> From the command line:
> ps ax | grep -i firefox
> then 
> kill -9 
>
> Normally I use kill -TERM first, and if that does not kill the process,
> then use -9.
>   
How about in KDE  which brings up a skull and crossbow.
However over the GUI you want killed and press the left mouse button.

Bob
>
>   
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Matthias Titeux]

Le Mardi 20 Mars 2007 17:58, Donald D Henson a écrit :
> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
> something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
> of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
> current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
> solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
> identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
> my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
> Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.

Hi,

You could use "ps -d" to identify the process and then kill it "kill PID" or 
"kill -KILL PID". You might have to be root to be able to kill the process.
Another way (especially with an unknown process eating CPU) is to launch top 
"top", press K and then enter the PID of the CPU eating process.



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Re: [opensuse] VPN connection to Sonicwall

[David Brodbeck]

James Wright wrote:
> I caught the VPN part, where exactly is the issue?  I have used IBM's 
> emulator 
> to access an AS400 behind a SonicWall with both Linux and Windows (mostly 
> Linux though), as well as VPN to a Windows Server 2003 domain.  Does the 
> SonicWall log show that your VPN attempts with Linux are being blocked, or 
> are you having trouble setting up VPN with Linux?
>   

Not sure how to set it up.  SonicWall has their own VPN client, but it's
Windows-only.  The only example I could find of setting up a VPN
connection with a SonicWall at one endpoint and Linux at the other used
hard-coded static IP addresses.
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 10:28, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
> ...

Note that in most cases, this approach will find the grep process, too.

"Pidof" is the direct way to find process IDs as such.


> The output from this command will list the PIDs of the matching
> processes and the PIDS of the parents of those processes - like this:
>
> $ ps -eaf|grep xterm
> jvollmer 30239 30215  0 12:07 pts/200:00:00 xterm
> jvollmer 30257 30215  0 12:07 pts/200:00:00 grep xterm
>
> (the first number for each process is the PID, the second is the PID
> of the parent)

Another reason that "ps" is less than ideal for this purpose. There are 
too many similar numbers in the output and when you filter ps output 
with grep, you don't see the column headers. If you send the signal to 
the process group (the other number right next to the PID), you'll not 
get the results you want and you probably will not like the results you 
get.


> Locate the PID for the process you wish to terminate and use the
> 'kill' command:
>
>   kill -9 

Absolutely a bad idea. Many programs have clean-up operations to 
perform. This guarantees those clean-up actions will not take place.

Signal TERM or 15 is the clean way to kill a process. Only resort to 
KILL or 9 when TERM does not cause the process to terminate.


> ...


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Compiling kernel.

[Patrick Kirsch]

Hey,
> 
> So what is the prescribed method of upgrading the kernel under SLES9?
Install the Service Packs for SLES9.
BTW, what kernel version did you compile?
Did you install also kernel-source?

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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Jay C Vollmer]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 11:58, Donald D Henson wrote:
> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
> something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
> of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
> current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
> solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
> identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
> my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
> Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.


Hi Donald.

To identify a process and extract its Process ID (PID,) use the 'ps' 
command:

ps -eaf|grep 

This will list any currently running processes with the name specified
The brackets are there to for context.  Don't include them in the command.

The output from this command will list the PIDs of the matching processes 
and the PIDS of the parents of those processes - like this:

$ ps -eaf|grep xterm
jvollmer 30239 30215  0 12:07 pts/200:00:00 xterm
jvollmer 30257 30215  0 12:07 pts/200:00:00 grep xterm

(the first number for each process is the PID, the second is the PID of the 
parent)
   

Locate the PID for the process you wish to terminate and use the 'kill' 
command:

kill -9 

Again, the brackets are there for context.  Don't include them in your 
command.

To kill the xterm process in the above example, use the command:

kill -9 30239

This command sends a specified signal number to the process identified by 
PID.  The signal is a number between 1 and 64. Number 9 means kill the 
process Identified by .  For a complete list of available signals, 
type:

kill -l

For more information, see the man pages for 'ps' and 'kill.'

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Re: [opensuse] DST problem in Evolution?

[Mike McMullin]

On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:20 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 10:18:13AM -0400, Bruce Smith wrote:
> > Has anyone noticed that Evolution seems NOT to be observing the new
> > North America daylight savings time change?  When I create an event in
> > the EVO calendar with an alarm, the notification popup shows up an
> > hour late.
> > 
> > The system date/time is correct and synced with a NTP server.  (and
> > the system time rolled forward an hour on March 11th as expected)
> > 
> > Seen in SuSE 10.2 & 10.1, both with all the latest updates.
> 
> This is correct and we are readying updates for this.
> 
> Evolution sadly seems to contains its onw timezone database for
> obscure reasons.

  Because the Gnome developers know better than the OS?  

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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Randall R Schulz]

Donald,

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 09:58, Donald D Henson wrote:
> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
> something to do with You Tube.)

By which you mean it has something to do with the Flash plug-in, which 
YouTube uses to display all its video (that's there "innovation").


> When I try to start up another 
> instance of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either
> close the current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a
> good solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli
> command to identify a process id and another one to kill a process.
> I've searched my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those
> two commands. Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.

The command "pidof" tells the process IDs for all running instances of a 
given executable. (You should know that Firefox's executable binary is 
called "firefox-bin", not "firefox".)

The command "ps" lists running processes. By default, it lists only 
those started by you and associated with the same terminal from which 
the ps command was issued. If you add the "-a" option, it will show all 
of your processes that are associated with some tty (which still 
excludes most GUI processes). Using "ps -u yourLoginNameOrUserID" will 
show all of your processes without regard to controlling tty. 
Using "ps -ax" will show all processes running on the system, 
regardless of who started them or whether they have a controlling tty.

Kill is the command that sends signals to processes.

The default signal sent by kill, SIGTERM, or 15, is a polite request for 
a process to shut down. It gets to perform whatever clean-up processing 
it requires. By the same token, the process can ignore such a request.

The unignorable kill signal (SIGKILL or 9) cannot be intercepted by the 
process in order to perform clean-up operations (or to refuse to die), 
so it will kill the process if at all possible. It's never preferable 
to use SIGKILL, at least not before trying SIGTERM.

Kill exists as a shell built-in, so you can use "help kill" to get usage 
information.


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Re: [opensuse] VPN connection to Sonicwall

[James Wright]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 12:51, David Brodbeck wrote:
> James Wright wrote:
> > What do you mean 'to a SonicWall firewall'?  I can use http or https to
> > connect to a SonicWall firewall.  Maybe you mean through a SonicWall
> > firewall to a PC/Server behind the firewall?  If so, just set up the
> > appropriate port forwarding to the machine behind the firewall (which may
> > need a static IP). Your remote laptop should not require a static IP.
>
> I think you missed the word "VPN" in my original message. We have a VPN
> set up for remote access to our main office network, via the SonicWall's
> IPSEC capability.  I'd like to connect to it from a laptop running
> Linux, instead of having to boot into Windows 2000.

I caught the VPN part, where exactly is the issue?  I have used IBM's emulator 
to access an AS400 behind a SonicWall with both Linux and Windows (mostly 
Linux though), as well as VPN to a Windows Server 2003 domain.  Does the 
SonicWall log show that your VPN attempts with Linux are being blocked, or 
are you having trouble setting up VPN with Linux?

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[opensuse] opensuse updater

[Robert Lewis]

With the opensuse updater (blue orb that turns orange when something is
ready to receive)
there are two updates being offered that I don't want as they insist on
ekiga being
removed.  These are CVS updates for opal and pwlib.  I unclicked them to
keep from
having them loaded.  However, the orb remains orange.

I have checked with both the maintainer of ekiga and packman and am told
not to use
these CVS versions as they are not compatible with ekiga.  There not
coming from packman
either or guru.  I think they are coming from one of the repositories at
SUSE that
I have added but am not 100% sure.

Opal
  Open Phone Abstraction Library
  Catalog: 20070206-121527 Type: Package

pwlib
  Portable Windows Library from Equivalence Pty. Ltd.
  Catalog: 20070206-121527 Type: Package

1) How can one tell which repository is offering what package?
2) How can I turn off a package so that the orb turns normal but that
 if a newer one shows up that I am alerted?

Cheers,
Bob
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Jerry Feldman]

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:58:42 -0600
Donald D Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
> will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
> something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
> of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
> current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
> solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
> identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
> my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
> Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.
Try ctrl-alt-Esc. That brings up a skull and crossbones. Click it in
the offending window and you will kill the process.

From the command line:
ps ax | grep -i firefox
then 
kill -9 

Normally I use kill -TERM first, and if that does not kill the process,
then use -9.


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Re: [opensuse] Modem setup problem.

[Mike McMullin]

On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 22:39 -0500, M Harris wrote:
> On Monday 19 March 2007 23:20, Tommy Lim wrote:
> > > > I just installed Opensuse 10.2 on my Compaq presario V3040TU.
> > > > Everything running just fine. But my modem doesn't show up in the
> > > > hardware list. What happen actually?
> > >
> > >   It could be a win-modem.
>   The modem is a win-modem... which means that part of the hardware is 
> emulated 
> as software (driver) and not provided in Opensuse.  There may be a third 
> party driver available for it... but probably not.
> 
>   You may need to use a USB modem.
> 
>   Which modem is supposed to be there? 

  Good question, I went to HP's website and looked at their PDF's on
that model, and it does not specify which one it is.

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Re: [opensuse] Modem setup problem.

[Mike McMullin]

>On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 00:14 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
>> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 12:00 +0800, Tommy Lim wrote:
>> > Hi,
 
>>> I just installed Opensuse 10.2 on my Compaq presario V3040TU.
Everything
>>> running just fine. But my modem doesn't show up in the hardware
list.
>>> What happen actually?

>>   It could be a win-modem.  What do you get from running lspci in a
>> terminal? 

> Hi Mike,

> The list show no modem at all. What should I do now? I am new to
> opensuse.

  What does it show?  Could you copy paste the output to the list
please?
The first step is to find it.  According to HP's website this model has
a built in modem.

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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Philippe Andersson]

Donald D Henson wrote:
> I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
> identify a process id
$ ps auxf | grep firefox | grep 

> and another one to kill a process.
$ kill 

or, if it fails to die

$ kill -9 

There is also a "killall" command that you can use with the process
name, but it may be more indiscriminate. "man killall" is your friend ;-)

HTH

Cheers. Bye.

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Re: [opensuse] Information about @opensuse.us email address's

[Michael Loeffler]

Hi, 
>Information about @opensuse.us email address's

>Greetings from the forum world ;) I posted this on the
>opensuse-project list as well. Forgive me for the double post, it
>appears very few people are subscribed to that mailing list. This list
>appears to be the list I should have posted too. I am not a frequent
>mailing list poster, I hang out in the forum world much more than I do
>here. I am however subscribed to almost all of the mailing lists and
>have replied a few times here and there when I could be of some small
>help.

>Opensuse.us is a forum for opensuse users everywhere. We have setup email
>addresses for opensuse users, and it's available for anyone that wants
>to sign up. Space is limited .. unless google smiles upon us and
>gives us more if we need them. ;)
The openSUSE.org project or better said Product Marketing inside Novell is 
working on community engagement program which will include email adresses 
@openSUSE.org and other stuff. 

FYI ;-)

Michael

>I realize that these are not the opensuse.org email address's that
>people would prefer, but it's not "too" far off. It's the best I
>could do, and I hope it's well received. It seemed many people wanted
>to have/use opensuse.org emails, and since they were not available to
>the public/or users  we would try in some small way to fill the
>void.

>Currently have 2,000 @opensuse.us email accounts to dispense. First
>come first serve basis, will probably be able to obtain more once
>these have been handed out... but I make no promises.

>Interested ? Want one ? Anyone that is part of the opensuse community
>(irc/forums-any of them/mailing lists) can get one if they want

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[opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Donald D Henson]

I seem to have gotten myself into a situation where a Firefox process
will not die nor will it display anything. (The problem seems to have
something to do with You Tube.) When I try to start up another instance
of Firefox, I get an error message that tells me to either close the
current process or to reboot the system. Rebooting is not a good
solution. I remember from the 'old days' that there is a cli command to
identify a process id and another one to kill a process. I've searched
my memory and the User Manual but cannot identify those two commands.
Any assistance will be sincerely appreciated.

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Re: [opensuse] VPN connection to Sonicwall

[David Brodbeck]

James Wright wrote:
> What do you mean 'to a SonicWall firewall'?  I can use http or https to 
> connect to a SonicWall firewall.  Maybe you mean through a SonicWall firewall 
> to a PC/Server behind the firewall?  If so, just set up the appropriate port 
> forwarding to the machine behind the firewall (which may need a static IP).  
> Your remote laptop should not require a static IP.
>   

I think you missed the word "VPN" in my original message. We have a VPN
set up for remote access to our main office network, via the SonicWall's
IPSEC capability.  I'd like to connect to it from a laptop running
Linux, instead of having to boot into Windows 2000.
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Re: [opensuse] Anyone with working WinTV PVR350?

[michael norman]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 04:12:36 Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 22:22 -0400, Charles philip Chan wrote:
> >  MythTV uses a
> > server client architecture. You must start the backend first before you
> > can start the frontend. In essence, you can have a MythTV server in your
> > house and multiple machines running either the QT frontend or Web
> > interface (Mythweb) anywhere on your network.
>
> Charles netwoking TV it is probably the most significant change that
> will come in the near feature. Mythtv is ahead of the rest. I am glad
> that SuSE is including the packages in the distro which makes the
> installation pretty simple.
>
> Interestingly I was watching dw-tv from germany the other day and they
> were showing a "house of the future" and the most important part was
> essentially what mythtv offers plus few sensors to control some of the
> house electronics.
>
> For people that have not use mythtv is very hard to understand the
> significance of it. Excellent searching capabilities so in few seconds
> you can find what you wanted weeks ahead. Very simple to mark and then
> after a while whenever you watch tv you just watch what you wanted at
> the time you wanted without commercials.
>
> Do you have HDTV setup already?. I got pcHDTV card but I have not
> installed yet. I had some problems with SuSE 10.2 (all solved) that
> delay that part.
>
> Ciao
>
> -=terry(Denver)=-

Is there a tv card that is USB and works with mythtv on SuSE ?
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Re: [opensuse] Root's password

[Carlos E. R.]

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> > Then look again: the weekly security script does that automatically
> > :-P
> 
> Yes, if you have "john" installed, in which case within five to seven 
> days of each weekly initiation of that program, you'll know whether it 
> could guess your system's passwords...

Right. And the following week it will try to break the very same passwords 
it tried the previous week.

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Re: [opensuse] User authentication with LDAP, your experience?

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> I'm looking for hints about switching user authentication to LDAP. 
> (We're using NIS up to now.) The LDAP server will be SLES, the 
> clients are a variety of SUSE Linux systems, in different versions, 
> and other Unix hosts.
> I'm familiar with setup of LDAP servers and know how to configure 
> the clients on the PAM level.
> I think that nscd should run on the clients, as LDAP has a rather 
> high latency, compared to NIS, and that would provide cached access 
> to passwd map entries. Can anybody confirm this or tell me anything 
> about performance issues?

nscd is OK for workstations;  but busy servers are best off having their
own replicant.  In many ways, nscd sucks.

> Are there any further trapfalls that I might fall into? Real-life 
> experience about problems that were not obvious at first?
> What do you use to manage LDAP users and groups? YAST?

An intranet applications, and phpLDAPExplorer

> I'm using JXplorer (http://jxplorer.org) for LDAP browsing, but that 
> doesn't seem to cut it for account management. Actually, a Web 
> interface to manage users and groups would be very helpful.

There is LAM if you are a Samba shop.  Personally I find none of them
very impressive;  we developed an in-house web fron end.

> Any tip would be greatly appreciated.

See "The LDAP Series" at http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/node/30  :)

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Re: [opensuse] Modem setup problem.

[Russell Jones]

Russell Jones wrote:

Tommy Lim wrote:

Hmmm.

About my wireless...I can detect it using ifconfig -a. Then when i use
Kwifimanager, I can see all the reception bar with the 0 above.

Can you guide me how to actually test it out whether it works or not?

  

You may find this useful:
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.usage.html#install 

The HOWTO is a good check-list. In particular, make sure you have 
wireless-tools installed. Try iwconfig. I've linked to the stage you 
seem to be at (roughly).

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Re: [opensuse] Double Linked List patented in 2006

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 04:52, Matthias Hopf wrote:
> On Mar 19, 07 15:36:43 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> ...
>
> What exactly do you refer to as a priority queue? Queues can be
> implemented in a number of different ways...

A priority queue is one in which the items bear priority values (usually 
numeric, but requiring only a total ordering). When removing items from 
a priority queue the entry with the smallest (or largest) priority 
value is the one removed. Items may be inserted with priority values in 
an arbitrary order. Usually insertion is interleaved with removal. 
Common uses are time-based / event simulation (where time is the 
priority value) or heuristic search (in which case heuristic figures of 
merit constitute the priority value).

The classic means of implementing a Priority Queue is with a binary 
heap, and it is very efficient. It does not, however, maintain the 
insertion order of entries with equal priority values.


> Matthias


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Modem setup problem.

[Russell Jones]

Tommy Lim wrote:

Hmmm.

About my wireless...I can detect it using ifconfig -a. Then when i use
Kwifimanager, I can see all the reception bar with the 0 above.

Can you guide me how to actually test it out whether it works or not?

  

You may find this useful:
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.usage.html#install


BTW, the convention on this list is not to top post.
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Re: [opensuse] Ploting functions

[Russell Jones]

Lívio Cipriano wrote:
His there any program or utility in Linux that plots the graphic of a given 
equation?
  
Not had cause to use it much, but there is also GNU R which (IIRC) uses 
GNU plot to show graphs.


Looking that up, I also noticed quickplot. Not tried that, but might be 
what you want.


Also, I guess searching for 'plot' and similar on description in yast2 
sw_single would find you a few others to try.

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