Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-09 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 17:00 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


 Not so... I was an advanced dos/windows user, and my first mail list ever
 was this one (rather, its antecesor at SuSE). Only then had I to deal with
 lots of email, and somewhat later, lots of spam.


In this day and age, any new user to Suse is already
used to dealing with spam...


The accounts I use or have used for this list are the ones pestered by 
spam. I have other accounts more than 10 years old with virtually no spam.
The difference? That they were not used for public mail lists, or 
registering to commercial sites.


I have friends using windows that still do not know what is spam and don't 
have any specialized software for it. Others do, of course.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread M9.
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Fred A. Miller schreef:
 M9. wrote:

 [snip]



 'Should be..I know I posted one this afternoon.

 Fred


Yes i noticed, allready answered, but might accidentily cut off the
discussion right away
If so, forgive me my rudeness, maybe i should have ended with: wouldn't
you think so?, or: Don't you agree?
Never mind... :))

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Mike McMullin
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 20:43 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 On Monday 07 January 2008 05:56, Mike McMullin wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
Besides, the
subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
any OT message for those who detest OT posts.
 
After they get dl'ed from the host, and some people getting the list
  are on dial up where time is money, so it's also being considerate to
  keep the OT chatter to a minimum.
 
   couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??
  
   jdd
 
They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
  place to put OT things.
 
 I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT list.
 I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't either.

  I am subscribed, but the thing is there are a number of folks lurking,
and just reading.  Only Henne could give an accurate number of how many
are subscribed to both lists.

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread M9.
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Doug McGarrett schreef:
 On Monday 07 January 2008 05:56, Mike McMullin wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
 Besides, 
 keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

 jdd
   They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
 place to put OT things.
 
 I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT list.
 I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't either.

(I mostly do not belong to the 99%, i am used to that for a long time...)

Well, for me, i was not aware of the existense of such a list, but if i
read the statements made here [OT], i would most certainly do read them,
because some of us realy have a way with words, and do even know what
they are talking about!
Most interesting, and sometimes realy funny stories and answers are
given which make me roflmao... and if i like something [OT] beside sex,
[/OT]its laughing :)))

 
 --doug


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-08-08 01:00]:
 
 It would help if the Off Topic list were put on
 the same page at opensuse.org where the subscription
 info for this list is found.
 
 The primary reason that nobody subscribes to the OT
 list is because IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED.
 


NOW it is:

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 10:35 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:


The primary reason that nobody subscribes to the OT
list is because IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED.



NOW it is:

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Forgive me, but that is not sufficient. It should be listed here: 
http://lists.opensuse.org, even without an archive.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Monday 2008-01-07 at 14:41 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


So your saying that before using SuSe, the typical new
Linux user has never had to deal with lots of email

I find that rediculously difficult to believe, as most
of the converts are advanced windows users.


Not so... I was an advanced dos/windows user, and my first mail list ever 
was this one (rather, its antecesor at SuSE). Only then had I to deal with 
lots of email, and somewhat later, lots of spam.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Fred A. Miller
M9. wrote:
 
 
 Fred A. Miller schreef:
 M9. wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 
 'Should be..I know I posted one this afternoon.
 
 Fred
 
 
 Yes i noticed, allready answered, but might accidentily cut off the
 discussion right away
 If so, forgive me my rudeness, maybe i should have ended with: wouldn't
 you think so?, or: Don't you agree?
 Never mind... :))

Ok.

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

On 2008-01-08 16:52, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 10:35 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

snip
Forgive me, but that is not sufficient. It should be listed here: 
http://lists.opensuse.org, even without an archive.


With the headline of Mailinglist Archives, I think people kinda expect 
the lists presented on that page include archived messages (although 
opensuse-offtopic is archived elsewhere).


But a reference on http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate/Mailinglists 
wouldn't hurt.




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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread jfweber
On Mon January 7 2008, Doug McGarrett scratched these words onto a 
coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
 On Monday 07 January 2008 05:56, Mike McMullin wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:

snippage
 
They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list
  was a place to put OT things.

 I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT
 list. I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you
 don't either.

snip
When there are posts I read em... it cycles, just like this one. The 
thing that amazes me about 10.3, is how little bitching there is on 
*this* list about how that install borked some kind of setup that was 
working prior to the install , weird . It must really be an easy peasy 
install for *most* folks.. Otherwise there would be maximum screaming 
on this list AND the OT list..

if you guys were so determined to keep your message count to a minimum 
you would join over there. We do occasionally have some spirited 
discussions, and even some help is offered and accepted.. But there 
usually are flurries of activity , kinda like this list, but w/ way 
fewer folks to go thru...  I'm just saying...

As I recall it was some kind folks from this list ( back in the olden 
times, 7.0-ish) who actually began that list, to be nice to you folks, 
who don't seem able to ignore messages you aren't interested in, 
someone offered to host the original OT list,  in short order we were 
busy enough over there, that we got put on a Suse server.. Thanks so 
very much to whomever gave us that recognition. 

BTW I'm not claiming that the OT list didn't exist prior to 7.0, just 
that's the only time I recall there was a message posted , 
here,asking if anyone were interested, and when there were say, more 
than 25 people, that was the start of it.. IIRC



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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 08 January 2008 09:58:38 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Monday 2008-01-07 at 14:41 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
  So your saying that before using SuSe, the typical new
  Linux user has never had to deal with lots of email
 
  I find that rediculously difficult to believe, as most
  of the converts are advanced windows users.

 Not so... I was an advanced dos/windows user, and my first mail list ever
 was this one (rather, its antecesor at SuSE). Only then had I to deal with
 lots of email, and somewhat later, lots of spam.

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That is exactly the same here. 
As much as I was able to deal with computer without problems, and almost 
install Yggdrasil as first attempt to run Linux, I was new to world of 
Internet communications, and didn't know so much. I used email before, but 
experience with few private emails can't help you once you subscribe to real 
mail list. 

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Monday 2008-01-07 at 14:41 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


So your saying that before using SuSe, the typical new
Linux user has never had to deal with lots of email

I find that rediculously difficult to believe, as most
of the converts are advanced windows users.


Not so... I was an advanced dos/windows user, and my first mail list 
ever was this one (rather, its antecesor at SuSE). Only then had I to 
deal with lots of email, and somewhat later, lots of spam.


In this day and age, any new user to Suse is already
used to dealing with spam...


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread jdd

Besides, the
subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
any OT message for those who detest OT posts.


couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Mike McMullin
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
  Besides, the
  subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
  any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

  After they get dl'ed from the host, and some people getting the list
are on dial up where time is money, so it's also being considerate to
keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??
 
 jdd

  They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
place to put OT things.

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Neil
Why then can't I find the OT mailing list with
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012850459432662882474%3Avwmwkphffy4hl=en
?
I subscribed to the OT mailing list a minute ago (found it in the
mail) but I didn't know of it's existence and it can't be found
easily.

On Jan 7, 2008 11:56 AM, Mike McMullin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
   Besides, the
   subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
   any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

   After they get dl'ed from the host, and some people getting the list
 are on dial up where time is money, so it's also being considerate to
 keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

  couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??
 
  jdd

   They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
 place to put OT things.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 07 January 2008 02:52:10 am jdd wrote:
  Besides, the
  subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
  any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

I care about OT mails, but not because of me. 

I can do that locally. I can send them in oblivion, ignore them, read them, 
but how that will help the one that is not used to zillion mails in his 
inbox. The other way to make list server sort the properly is a bit too much 
to ask, because it has to be intelligent enough to understand mail to sort 
them properly. We are not there, yet.

Imagine guy just started to use Linux and still using web mail, or have no 
idea about threading (it is not obvious, you have to know that is exists, 
first). He made trough subscription process (which  is not common, BTW), 
posted his problem and now is looking trough not threaded 100 emails + his 
regular mail, to find one message that is answer to his. It is frustrating. 


This list is created as help to new users, very unskilled, very frustrated 
with some other problem that they can't solve, and we as helpfull people 
don't want to add to their problems. That is the reason to have offtopic 
list. 

The subscription to offtopic list, and any other, should not be a problem for 
regular visitors here. 

Anybody that can't see a problem with OT is the one has only himself in mind 
(do we call that egoism), and can't even come on idea that there others not 
so skilled that deserve help.  

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread M9.
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Neil schreef:
 Why then can't I find the OT mailing list with
 http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012850459432662882474%3Avwmwkphffy4hl=en
 ?
 I subscribed to the OT mailing list a minute ago (found it in the
 mail) but I didn't know of it's existence and it can't be found
 easily.

 On Jan 7, 2008 11:56 AM, Mike McMullin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
 Besides, the
 subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
 any OT message for those who detest OT posts.
   After they get dl'ed from the host, and some people getting the list
 are on dial up where time is money, so it's also being considerate to
 keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

 jdd
   They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
 place to put OT things.

Exactly, noone knows, (knew) about that list existing, before Patrick
mentioned the location.
I subscribed, but nothing has posted there i guess, cause no mail came
in since yesterday.

In this list, there should be about  hundred minimum in a day...

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Billie Walsh
jdd wrote:
 Besides, the
 subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
 any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

 couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??

 jdd


There wouldn't be anything left on this list.
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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

2008-01-07 Thread jfweber
On Sun January 6 2008, Rajko M. scratched these words onto a coconut 
shell, hoping for an answer:
 On Sunday 06 January 2008 10:14:50 am M9. wrote:
  Patrick Shanahan schreef:
   Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now
   to make the previous statement.  And the post was *not* about you
   in particular, but feel guilty if you must.
 
  ???

 Can we continue on offtopic list.

 S, we don't want these guys to know there ARE folks subscribed to 
it... 

Henne, Shugah! !!! Wanna move this subject over there now ? Or, are you 
waiting for a huge uproar from a country which will remain nameless... 
for the present.

;)


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Monday 07 January 2008 05:56, Mike McMullin wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 09:52 +0100, jdd wrote:
   Besides, the
   subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
   any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

   After they get dl'ed from the host, and some people getting the list
 are on dial up where time is money, so it's also being considerate to
 keep the OT chatter to a minimum.

  couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??
 
  jdd

   They should actually get put there as the intent of the OT list was a
 place to put OT things.

I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT list.
I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't either.

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Smits
On January 7, 2008 05:43:19 pm Doug McGarrett wrote:

 I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT list.
 I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't
 either.

I certainly don't . I come here to read On Topic posts. But those who 
intentionally (it's certainly possible to do so by mistake) inflict Off Topic 
posts on the rest of us want either to get an answer to an off Topic subject 
and they're too lazy to use Google, or have such contempt for the use of 
everyone else's time they don't care if they waste it.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 07 January 2008 06:21:36 am M9. wrote:
 Neil schreef:
  Why then can't I find the OT mailing list with
  http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012850459432662882474%3Avwmwkphffy4hl=
 en ?
  I subscribed to the OT mailing list a minute ago (found it in the
  mail) but I didn't know of it's existence and it can't be found
  easily.
.
 Exactly, noone knows, (knew) about that list existing, before Patrick
 mentioned the location.
 I subscribed, but nothing has posted there i guess, cause no mail came
 in since yesterday.

 In this list, there should be about  hundred minimum in a day...

If people would have a bit compassion for those that don't know a lot, have 
trouble and need help, than on offtopic list would have much more traffic. 

BTW, it has one interesting feature: It is not archived. 
That doesn't mean that one can say anything he wants, but what is said would 
be propagate only to subscribers, not in archive and captured by Google. 

Though, diligent mail list web portal operator can subscribe to the list and 
include mails in his portal. 

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Robert Smits wrote:

On January 7, 2008 05:43:19 pm Doug McGarrett wrote:


I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT list.
I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't
either.


I certainly don't . I come here to read On Topic posts. But those who 
intentionally (it's certainly possible to do so by mistake) inflict Off Topic 
posts on the rest of us want either to get an answer to an off Topic subject 
and they're too lazy to use Google, or have such contempt for the use of 
everyone else's time they don't care if they waste it.





It would help if the Off Topic list were put on
the same page at opensuse.org where the subscription
info for this list is found.

The primary reason that nobody subscribes to the OT
list is because IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Rajko M. wrote:

On Monday 07 January 2008 02:52:10 am jdd wrote:

Besides, the
subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

couldn't [OT] subject be filtered out to OT list??


I care about OT mails, but not because of me. 

I can do that locally. I can send them in oblivion, ignore them, read them, 
but how that will help the one that is not used to zillion mails in his 
inbox. The other way to make list server sort the properly is a bit too much 
to ask, because it has to be intelligent enough to understand mail to sort 
them properly. We are not there, yet.


Imagine guy just started to use Linux and still using web mail, or have no 
idea about threading (it is not obvious, you have to know that is exists, 
first). He made trough subscription process (which  is not common, BTW), 
posted his problem and now is looking trough not threaded 100 emails + his 
regular mail, to find one message that is answer to his. It is frustrating. 



So your saying that before using SuSe, the typical new
Linux user has never had to deal with lots of email

I find that rediculously difficult to believe, as most
of the converts are advanced windows users.


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread jdd

Aaron Kulkis a écrit :


I find that rediculously difficult to believe, as most
of the converts are advanced windows users.


certainly not. (that don't mean the rest of your mail is bad)

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Robert Smits wrote:

On January 7, 2008 05:43:19 pm Doug McGarrett wrote:

I would love to see a show of hands (here) as to how many read the OT 
list.

I certainly don't, and I would bet that 95% of the rest of you don't
either.


I certainly don't . I come here to read On Topic posts. But those who 
intentionally (it's certainly possible to do so by mistake) inflict 
Off Topic posts on the rest of us want either to get an answer to an 
off Topic subject and they're too lazy to use Google, or have such 
contempt for the use of everyone else's time they don't care if they 
waste it.





It would help if the Off Topic list were put on
the same page at opensuse.org where the subscription
info for this list is found.

The primary reason that nobody subscribes to the OT
list is because IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED.




It certainly would.
I never did get an answer to that question 
http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:Communicate#Offtopic_Mailing_list , but I 
guess people don't read the discussion pages that often :)


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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

2008-01-06 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 06 January 2008 10:14:50 am M9. wrote:
 Patrick Shanahan schreef:
  Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now to
  make the previous statement.  And the post was *not* about you in
  particular, but feel guilty if you must.

 ???

Can we continue on offtopic list.

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

2008-01-06 Thread M9.
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Rajko M. schreef:

 
 Can we continue on offtopic list.
 

Which address is?
Looked: http://en.opensuse.org/NB-Communicate#Development_Lists
but did not find it... ;-)
Maybe i overlooked it, many lists.

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

2008-01-06 Thread M9.
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Patrick Shanahan schreef:
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 Which address is?
 Looked: http://en.opensuse.org/NB-Communicate#Development_Lists
 but did not find it... ;-)
 Maybe i overlooked it, many lists.
 
 
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chrystalclear thnx ;-))




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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

2008-01-06 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 06 January 2008 12:05:56 pm M9. wrote:
  Which address is?
  Looked: http://en.opensuse.org/NB-Communicate#Development_Lists
  but did not find it... ;-)
  Maybe i overlooked it, many lists.
 
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 chrystalclear thnx ;-))

:-D
That was fast.
It wasn't actually message to you, but anyone who wants to carry OT 
discussion. Initial mail is already there. 

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-06 Thread Stevens
I suppose the reason that OT posts are made here is that no 
one reads - or subscribes to - the OT list. Besides, the
subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

While on the subject of mail, I use kmail. Opensuse has its 
own folder and anything to do with opensuse gets put there.
I then scroll through the messages, scanning the subjects
until I see something interesting - to me -. I scan the contents 
on those that I choose to read and, of those, I keep a few tidbits 
that might be of help later. Everything else gets flushed. It takes 
damn little time to go through the hundred-odd messages a day. 
I don't use message threading, so top posting, bottom posting, 
comments in the center, none matter to me whatsoever.
No one's posting style has raised my blood pressure, but there 
are a few anal retentives here who need to take a deep breath, get 
away from the puter and go get laid.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Fred
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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-06 Thread steve
Stevens wrote:

 I don't use message threading, so top posting, bottom posting, 
 comments in the center, none matter to me whatsoever.

same here. its only email, and a list for christ sake, if you dont like
where a thread is going, then DONT READ IT!!!  HELLO? is this thing on??

 No one's posting style has raised my blood pressure, but there 
 are a few anal retentives here who need to take a deep breath, get 
 away from the puter and go get laid.

well said!!.. I now see this thread continuing for days lol, of
course I will ignore it from now on, ive said my piece now everyone else
can.
 
 Just my 2 cents worth.
 
 Fred
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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts.

2008-01-06 Thread David

Whatever gets you through the night.../It's alright.../It's alright.../

d:¬)-'

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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-06 Thread JB2
On Sun 06 January 08 12:39, Stevens wrote:

 I suppose the reason that OT posts are made here is that no
 one reads - or subscribes to - the OT list.

  Then you ought to have been the first there with this post, correct?

 Besides, the 
 subject says OT, so a reasonably decent filter should flush
 any OT message for those who detest OT posts.

  It's the main reason there was an OT list created. Is it too hard for you 
(and those who do start the OT crap on *this* list) to subscribe to the OT 
list and keep 'OT' stuff there?


 No one's posting style has raised my blood pressure, but there
 are a few anal retentives here who need to take a deep breath, get
 away from the puter and go get laid.

  Those who bitch, as you did above this, are the ones who seem to have 
trouble *going* to the OT list and following the rules. Maybe if you pulled 
your willy out once in a while, it'd be easier on *you*.


 Just my 2 cents worth.

  Closer to 1/2 a penny.
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Re: [opensuse] About offtopic posts

2008-01-06 Thread David

Sense of humour, get one.
Life is too short.
Cheers,
David
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