Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha1 installer / step Software selection
Hello, on Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote: ... And I said: what is Office? Is that software I need if I work in an office (e.g. patience game) *LOL* or can I use it at home too? Do I need to check this box too, if all I want is to open document sent by my mother (and I'm afraid _my_ mother working in an office and sending .ppt and .doc files all the time didn't help the point :)? I didn't get a reply till I looked at the dialog you're seeing. So here we are - any better suggestions? ;-) What about simply Open and modify documents? That said: The dialog looks really good, and the sort order in the Type of System chooser also looks good. (Well, KDE could be on the first position *SCNR*) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Ich werde gerne als Frau Fischer angesprochen, Herr Fischer macht sich da nicht so gut. Warum denn nicht. Vielleicht kannst Du dann ja mit der Flugbereitschaft der Bundeswehr auf die Melediven fliegen ;o) [ Helga Fischer und Thorsten Körner in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Warning: 10.3 test-updates breaks the system
Hello, a warning to everybody who uses the 10.3 test-updates: currently you will break your system because dbus, hal and some other packages will be uninstalled by the aaa_base patch. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=352177 If you have already installed the broken patch, grep for rpm.*-e in /var/log/zypper.log and reinstall the deleted packages with rpm. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Ein wenig künstlerische Freiheit darf doch wohl noch sein, oder? Nur, falls Du die Artistic Licence unterschrieben hast. [Bernd Brodesser und Martin Leidig in suse-talk] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 46
Hello, on Dienstag, 13. November 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote: in terms of registered installations, October 2007 was the most successful openSUSE month ever. It was 60% above the month having had this title so far (March 2007). Can you tell us some concrete numbers, please? (60% more could mean 10 - 16, but also a million - 1.6 million ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Warning: Sleeping Sigmonster! Please do not disturb. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper upadtes kernel packages instead of installing it
Hello, on Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007, Igor Jagec wrote: BTW what is the difference between patch and delta rpm? IIRC: - Patch RPMs contain only modified files (as complete files). - Delta RPMs contain a binary diff of changed files, which is usually smaller than the whole file. What is the purpose of these types of rpm packages, only to save the bandwidth and disk space while updating? Yes, the main purpose is saving bandwidth. Saving disk space is not a purpose - AFAIK delta RPMs even need some temporary disk space to be reassembled to full RPMs. (I hope somebody corrects me if I'm wrong ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Alarm heisst al armas, also Zu den Waffen!. Womit soll ich in meinen Rechner reinballern, wenn er Hitzealarm gibt? [Ratti in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] should keyboards with active LEDs be suspended
Hello, on Freitag, 12. Oktober 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote: Am Freitag 12 Oktober 2007 schrieb Hans Petter Jansson: On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 07:51 +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote: Am Freitag 12 Oktober 2007 schrieb Hans Petter Jansson: On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 22:24 +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Oktober 2007 schrieb Christian Boltz: I prefer the energy savings. 5% (I assume as a fraction of maximum power /me too Still sounds like a win to me, but I'm sure we'll get bug reports on it (keyboard LEDs don't work). Would it be possible to make it optional? No risk, no fun *g* The whole scheme is already optional. It can be switched at runtime. Then I'd vote for just do it ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Grub. Da bootest du sogar ein Stück Pappe, auf dem du 'Betriebsystem' draufschreibst, und das in den Diskettenschacht schiebst. [Ernst Herzberg in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] should keyboards with active LEDs be suspended
Hello, on Montag, 8. Oktober 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote: powersaving in the idle state requires the USB busses to be suspended. This means that all LEDs on keyboards (Num-lock, CapaLock, ...) will be deactivated. The keyboards behavior is not affected. Can we live with an inconsistency of this kind or should keyboards with active LEDs not go into powersave? It seems people don't want to do technical votings on this list ;-) so I'm the first one answering. IMHO the answer depends on how many energy can be saved. Do you have some rough numbers? If we are talking about 0,5% energy saving, I would prefer correct LEDs. But if we are talking about 10%, I don't care about correct LED status. Besides that, I think that people usually look more at the screen than at the keyboard. I probably wouldn't even notice if the keyboard LEDs were switched off ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Gibt es hier in dieser Liste eigentlich ausser mir noch jemanden ?? Nein, aber es laufen einige Robots, die Traffic vortäuschen. Ich bin auch einer davon. [Tobias Korb und Thorsten Haude in suse-programming] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics
many bugs we overlooked in the beta phase. 100% of the votes say openSUSE 10.3 is an awesome release 8). Indeed :-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- [Linux installieren] Ja, aber, wie war es denn nun - am Morgen nach der Installation?Soviel dazu: Erschöpft, aber beruhigt eingeschlafen. Am nächsten Morgen aufgewacht, Rechner eingeschaltet - geweint. Nein, nicht vor Enttäuschung - vor Glück! [Bernd Graff auf www.sueddeutsche.de] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] mini CDs ...
Hello, on Samstag, 22. September 2007, Per Jessen wrote: Christian Boltz wrote: I usually don't even burn a mini CD and boot the installation directly from grub ;-) What media do you boot from then? I boot from hard disk, as usual - and then select the installation menu entry in grub. (I have mirrored the Factory tree on my home server and use this - via HTTP or NFS, depending on the phase of the moon ;-) http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD Yeah, for production machines I also install/boot with PXE (NIC or floppy), but for testing a machine or an alpha/beta, I don't bother with the whole setup. What's the problem? You have to copy the install kernel and initrd to /boot, add it in menu.lst and have the Factory tree available somewhere (and somewhere could as well be download.opensuse.org). Not really different to using the mini CD... Regards, Christian Boltz -- wie kann ich auf ein Tape Drive drauf schauen? eject button drücken (oder mt -f device offl) und vors Auge halten? [ Mrvka Andreas und Andreas Kyek in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Slide show
Hello, on Freitag, 7. September 2007, Jonathan D. Arnold / Daemon Dancing wrote: I was wondering where I could look over the text in the Slide Show and where to comment on it? I have a few comments on the screens I've read so far, but I'd like to be able to read them at my leisure. The texts and images are at http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/setup/slide/ The text files are in a HTML-like syntax, even if they are named *.rtf If you find a problem, open a bugreport and assign it to Karl Eichwalder (ke AT novell.com) Regards, Christian Boltz -- ich habe folgendes merkwürdiges Problem. Ich greife mit einem SuSE 8.2 Linux-Server über ncpmount auf die Ordner eines Novell-Servers zu. [...] Eine Datei mit Namen Besprechung BMI - Microsoft Select Verträge.pdf wird nicht angezeigt. Linux Server haben auch ihren Stolz [ Thomas Albl und Stefan Onken in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Hello, on Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Benji Weber wrote: [...] I would have thought it would be more sensible to add a check to the /etc/init.d/xdm init script to start SaX2 in event of displaymanager failing to start. Yes, would be a nice enhancement. Unfortunately KDM returns 0 on X start failure, and the init script thinks it was successful. Sounds like a bug - is this already in bugzilla? Regards, Christian Boltz -- 31.8.-3.9.2007: Weinfest und Jubiläum 1225 Jahre Insheim Pig Slip, Hifi-Delity, Human Fact, Frank Petersen und die Söhne Insheims spielen bei der Landjugend. Mehr Infos: www.Landjugend-Insheim.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...
Hello, on Montag, 27. August 2007, Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 27. 2007 01:45]: I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are critical from my POV :-( Well, yes we are testing it but in parallel with the community ;-} So I was just faster? ;-) [...] - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted partitions while installation fails - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except / fails - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure at bootloader installation - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually Mixed ATA/SATA system ? This all looks like #304269 No, a laptop with a single IDE disk. However, at least the kernel / mkinitrd related problem is identical with comment #3 in bug #304269, so I'll assume it's a duplicate for now. [...] - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast after you have solved them) This is to be expected since the solver tries a couple of different approaches to solve the conflict. I agree, it could still be faster. OK, then I'll not file a bugreport about this. I have enough left ;-) - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error message Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...] %post failed with exit status 127 affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer You are running a x86_64 system, aren't you ? The named packages are .i586 Please file a bug report. No, I'm running a i586 system... Regards, Christian Boltz -- Recovery ist, wenn Kunden anrufen und nach solchen Leuten verlangen. Nun, ohne deinen Namen zu sehr verhunzen zu wollen aber es klingt bestimmt lustig, wenn du dich einem Mann vorstellst, der auch Dirk heißt. [Dirk Nimmich und Adrian Knoth in dasr] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...
Hallo, (@bnc-team-screening: sorry that you have that much work with me ;-) Am Montag, 27. August 2007 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select show all partitions (and: no, I don't think that https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition earlier) Please file a bug report. I reopened the existing report instead and hope it won't be closed as invalid again. - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted partitions while installation fails Another bugreport. - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except / fails - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure at bootloader installation - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually Lots of bugreports :-( These bugs might be related to #299667 - I mentioned them there instead of opening separate reports. - the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken #305074 - the pattern update test packages does not drop in any of the update-test-* packages Mmh - that's bad :-( #305075 - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2 installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with arch change and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog. I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be refreshed. #305080 (Yes, I know that buildservice packages are officially unsupported. However the KDE packages are used widely, additionally the symptoms look like solver problems, so no work for you, Stephan ;-) - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared with version 0.7. Any idea on this one? It's not really a bug, just a bit strange. - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM. Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM... Anyways, expected result is a warning out of RAM, please cleanup the logs or add swap. #305083 - not because of the size needed, but because of the unexpected exit of YaST. - oh, just after clicking accept in the pattern details view, I got about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds... with debuggin enabled? This should not happen otherwise and would be worth a bugreport. In the first try, I had created a testcase. (But no other debugging set) In the second try, no debugging ws enabled. And manual mode should not be relevant, if I understand Jiri's mail correct. #305087 - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language by default. Agreed - please do one more report. #305088 - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus packages) were re-selected after clicking packages in the proposal - which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package selection in the pattern details view #305091 - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk... Isn't it removed? But perhaps not done properly :-( #305094 - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package Yeah, perhaps we need one more bugreport. You can have one ;-) #305096 - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why #305097 - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error message Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...] %post failed with exit status 127 affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer I haven't seen this - please file a bug. #305098 - according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version 10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory :-( #305101 - SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have more than one FIXME ;-) No bug report yet, I have to re-check it. - opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have installed both of them now It should be, I check the spec file. Please file a report. already known, #304336 And some things I already found in the running system: - something seems to run insserv -r boot.crypto while installation, so my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot (workaround: insserv it again) :-( #305105 - opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?) - opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the bottom - where's the patch description
[opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...
Hello, I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are critical from my POV :-( Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview: - my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select show all partitions (and: no, I don't think that https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition earlier) - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted partitions while installation fails - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except / fails - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure at bootloader installation - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually - the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken - the pattern update test packages does not drop in any of the update-test-* packages - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2 installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with arch change and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog. I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be refreshed. - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared with version 0.7. - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM. Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM... Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB y2logs. Question: does manual mode create bigger logs does this always happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source in the first run - already filed a bug about this) Anyways, expected result is a warning out of RAM, please cleanup the logs or add swap. - oh, just after clicking accept in the pattern details view, I got about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds... - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast after you have solved them) - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language by default. - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus packages) were re-selected after clicking packages in the proposal - which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package selection in the pattern details view - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk... - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error message Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...] %post failed with exit status 127 affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer - according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version 10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory - SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have more than one FIXME ;-) - opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have installed both of them now And some things I already found in the running system: - something seems to run insserv -r boot.crypto while installation, so my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot (workaround: insserv it again) - opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?) - opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the bottom - where's the patch description? - the new opensuse-updater-kde initially shows only an overview. I'm not yet sure if I really like this (for me it's a click more to see the available updates) - so please add an always show details checkbox. - YOU doesn't display information about packages, just lists the patches (empty list at the right section of the window) I would be happy if someone could add a short note to every item if it is already known or if I need to file a bugreport ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: I'll now going to verify if all YaST modules support the help parameter (bugs 269886 to 269914) to get a better feeling... -- Am Besten wäre natürlich, den Owner von /dev/usbkabel ;-) zu überprüfen *g* Dieses Device ist IMHO aber erst im neuen Kernel vorgesehen. Hast Du da etwa schon einen
Re: [opensuse-factory] brp scripts in autobuild
Hello, on Freitag, 23. März 2007, Lars Rupp wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED]: from various discussions in bug reports I know that brp scripts for the following are installed in autobuild: - check whether .la files have an empty dependency_libs line - check whether .la and .pc files have references to the build root - check whether .desktop files have all their icons installed Are these scripts publicly available somewhere? They are not distributed with rpm, build or osc and I could not find them anywhere else either. Currently not. If not, would it be possible to publish these (and others, if present)? Adding this to my ToDo-List: talk to our managers and see what can be published. But please don't expect a fast answer... :-/ I'd say 5 monts are a quite long time, so: do you have a slow answer in between? ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Not mentioned in the `known features'-list so far... [found on https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=152068] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Error in FACTORY repository?
Hello, on Donnerstag, 2. August 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, is there any way to get notified when a sync has happened? Not that I'm aware of right now :-( Simple idea: Can you create a timestamp file like last_synced with the sync time as content (date last_synced) or as file timestamp (touch last_synced) ? Regards, Christian Boltz -- * Linux Viruscan. Windows 95 found. Remove it? (y/n) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-ux] Liberation fonts as default
Hello, on Sonntag, 17. Juni 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Saturday 16 June 2007 schrieb Stephan Binner: What's wrong with DejaVu? Why has the default desktop to use MS metrics? I see sense for using it in office documents but desktop/application interfaces? Because web sites are layout for these metrics. And web sites are an important part of today's desktops. *ROTFL* Sorry, but websites with 100% exact layout are things that will _never_ happen because - you don't know the size (especially width) of the browser window, so linebreaks aren't always the same - users can change the font size - a font might be missing - additional CSS code defined in the browser (user stylesheet) - browser bugs - unexpected browsers (lynx anyone? ;-) - ... This doesn't mean that a page has to break on these things - if the author did his job well, it will look good at all fonts and font sizes, with any window size etc. so the page is nearly unbreakable. (You might have noticed my stress test on the redesign for *.opensuse.org in opensuse-wiki ;-) If you really want to have a perfectly reproducable layout on your website, you should publish it as PNG instead of using HTML ;-) - but don't complain if search engines and also your visitors don't really like this... Regards, Christian Boltz -- 23.-24.6.2007 Tage der offenen Felder und Weinberge in Insheim Highlights: 40 Ackerkulturen - Rebsortenweg - Versuche - Weinprobe - Tierschau - Schafschur - Oldtimer-Schlepper - Essen Getränke Mehr Infos: http://blog.cboltz.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [suggestion] YaST-update should NOT refresh all installation-sources when called by opensuse-updater
Hello, on Sonntag, 22. April 2007, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Sun 22 Apr 2007 20:28:37 NZST +1200, Martin Schlander wrote: Also the update source is not relevant here is it? When opensuseupdater tells you that updates are available the update repo has already been refreshed hasn't it? So it won't need to download new metadata again at YOU startup. Indeed. What I mainly object to is the repeated downloading of 98% of old metadata and only 2% of new, because everything is packed up in the same binary file. A more intelligent design would be 50 times faster... What about using zsync? I never used it myself, but what I read on http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ looks very promising :-) BTW: Volker, could you please provide some info in bug 188068? (Your patch breaks pin in another way...) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wir sind vom LinuxTag e.V., Widerstand ist zwecklos. Sie werden assimiliert. [Henning Heinold - LinuxTag fortune] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Topics for 2007-04-19 dist meeting
Hello, on Mittwoch, 18. April 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: * log entries in .changes file Just a simple Update to version x.y is not valid in the packages changelog but happens far too often. Goal: present the changes done to packages to users in a good way and use that for e.g. Release Notes. Do you really want to include the full changelog in the specfile? IMHO this would bee too much. (What about including NEWS instead of ChangeLog?) * Updating openSUSE: What options do users have for updating from one release to the next one? Which of these will we support? Some current options: - Boot from CD - zypper update - System Update If it isn't too difficult, I would like to have a supported way to upgrade a running system. Please offer both zypper (for command-line fans) and YaST2 System Update (for more mouse-orientated users). * Moving languages out of packages followup: The idea is to add to spec file of packages a new rpm macro so that subpackages are created and then related subpackages are repacked for each language in our build system. This way we would get e.g. basesystem-$lang and gnome-$lang packages and those can then be installed. Good idea, I don't understand most of the languages anyway. But please make sure the package overhead isn't larger than the files it contains... In case of very small $lang packages, don't split off the languages. It might be a good idea to add all language provides to the main package in this case for easier dependency solving (_each_ package requires the $lang package the user wants). Regards, Christian Boltz -- If Microsoft is the solution, I want my problems back. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Locking packages ...
Hello, on Dienstag, 17. April 2007, Klaus Kaempf wrote: bug 264685 (Get rid of package locks in package manager) asks for reasoning of and better concepts for locking packages in the package manager. [...] The current solution to the above scenarious is to group packages based on their vendor attribute. Can you tell us some details? My impression always was that non-SUSE packages are always locked. Or did I miss some details? Packages from unknown vendors are auto-protected in order to prevent unwanted replacements. This is a very effective but also very limited solution. Proposals anyone ? IMHO, it's impossible to solve the usecases you posted automatically. Therefore, I'd like to have a dialog like Package updates - change vendor? You have installed package foo from $VENDOR, but there's a newer version available from $OTHER_VENDOR. What do you want to do? [Install package from $OTHER_VENDOR] [keep package from $VENDOR] [x] remember decicion for this package [x] remember decicion for vendor $VENDOR [x] remember decicion for all vendors So you would have the best of every solution: - no automatic cross-vendor that could remove some features - no package locks, normal dependency solving is possible - the user knows what's going on - seems to be really important because both the lock all and lock none method seem to imply that the user is surprised[tm] sooner or later Yes, it's another dialog to answer - but it's better than any automatic decision nobody really likes. Regards, Christian Boltz -- * Linux Viruscan. Windows 95 found. Remove it? (y/n) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Update notification via mail
Hello, an outstanding feature of the new package management is sending a mail to root with the available updates listed. Not a problem on a desktop machine (there's opensuse-updater ;-) , but really needed on a server. I have written such a application. Well, application is exaggerated - it's a 10 lines script calling zypp-checkpatches-wrapper + 110 lines of XSLT stylesheet. Download: package patch2mail on http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cboltz/openSUSE_10.2/repodata/ (also available for factory) Usage is easy: just install the package ;-) Every time cron.daily runs, it will send you a mail if updates are available. Questions: - is sending the mail to root ok or should the mail address be a config option? - is it ok to install to /etc/cron.daily directly? (IMHO yes, several other packages (for example logdigest) do this also.) - any other ideas? - will it be included in 10.3? ;-) On my todo list: - add a line listing the zypper command to install a specific patch (ready for copypaste) BTW: What is the correct command to install a specific patch? zypper in -t patch -y yast2-printer works, but I'd like to include the patch number. zypper in -t patch -y yast2-printer-2706-0 does not work - patch 'yast2-printer-2706-0' not found :-( Regards, Christian Boltz PS: an example notification mail looks like this: ~ Update sources: - SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates (http://suse.inode.at/pub/update/10.2) === yast2-printer - Patch 2706-0 (recommended) === yast2-printer: show remote printers This patch will fix several bugs: (#240727) - show also remote printers (#220712) - if more PPD's are available, select recommended first (#214243) - suggest PPD file for the selected printer (#223838) - select proper default queue === kernel - Patch 2705-0 (security) === Linux Kernel security update. This kernel update fixes the following security problems: - CVE-2006-5751: An integer overflow in the networking bridge ioctl starting with Kernel 2.6.7 could be used by local attackers to overflow kernel memory buffers and potentially escalate privileges [#222656] [... several other issues ...] Furthermore, it catches up to the mainline kernel, version 2.6.18.8, and contains a large number of additional fixes for non security bugs. Total: 2 updates (1 security) ~ -- Ausgaben mit einer 0 sind ok, es sei denn sie sind es nicht. [Thorsten Haude in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services
Hello, on Donnerstag, 8. März 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:27:10AM +0100, Andreas Vetter wrote: [...] With AppArmor, I'm not sure. AppArmor has no running daemon It loads the profiles on boot. But: I prefer security over saving a second of boot time ;-) (it uses auditd for logging), it is mostly a kernel module. Just curious: What's the advantage of using auditd compared with logging to syslog-ng? (I see only a disadvantage right now: auditd doesn't have human-readable timestamps in the log :-/ ) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Meine Fonts füllen die komplette Wand, also könnte ich auch kein größeres Poster brauchen. :-) Ich verwende für die Wände immer Tapete ;-) [ Ratti und Christian Boltz] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] gpg and gpg2
Hello, on Montag, 12. Februar 2007, Chema Ollés wrote: [... same as in but 242133 ...] well,my question is: Why gpg and gpg2? Are both necessary? That question sounds good enough to be answered ;-) Lukas? Can you enlight us? Additional question after looking at the changelogs: why do gpg and gpg2 have different maintainers? Regards, Christian Boltz -- #The code is S bad, I don't even WANT any copyright. # Just steal it and stop laughing. :-p [found on http://www.houghi.org/script/pizza.houghi] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GM release
Hello, Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 03:03 schrieb houghi: If you want rebranding for any of those, look at http://repos.opensuse.org/home:/jnweiger/SUSE_Factory/repodata/ and obviously http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_SUSE_based_distribution I have made the page http://en.opensuse.org/Rembrand as well, but there is not much to see yet. You might be interested in http://en.opensuse.org/Branding_Overview as well. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Version x.0 Kostenpflichtiger Preview als Bestandteil unserer Beta-Tests [Kristian Köhntopp] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] update to RC1 with add on source fails
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2006 22:23 schrieb Lukas Ocilka: Carlos E. R. wrote: [...] See this http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Tips Very interesting list, but it seems it's incomplete - I remember there's a hotkey for a (more or less) screen saver for example ;-) It would also be nice if you find some time to explain the options (on the wiki page) - for example, I don't know what this macro recorder is useful for. That said: I'd like to request another hotkey (proposal: Shift-F1) that displays a box showing all available hotkeys. (Yes, seriously. You (as a YaST developer) might know all available hotkeys, but most people don't know them. And such a list directly available in YaST would help a lot.) Regards, Christian Boltz -- OmmOmm.Omm Pendel Pendel-Pendel-- Mensch Axel: Sonst machst Du das doch mit der Glaskugel. Ist die schon wieder in der Spülmaschine? [Axel Lindlau u. Volker Kroll in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation
Hello, Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 22:47 schrieb Christian Boltz: Nevertheless, I'll make the 10.2 partition active - but I will replace the reboot by shutdown, sleep, boot ;-) so I will report back tomorrow. This did not change anything (as expected), so I finally reported this as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223852 Regards, Christian Boltz -- Sagt mal ehrlich: Ist mein Rechner geisteskrank [Harald Katzer in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] RC1 installation
Hello, I updated beta2 to RC1 yesterday. Installation sources: Factory tree and inst-source-extra from yesterday, which should be newer than RC1. Things I noted: - grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition) relevant partitions: /dev/hda7: 10.2 RC1; /dev/hda5: 10.1 final /etc/grub.conf: install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.lst install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,6) (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,6)/boot/grub/menu.lst quit Hmm, maybe I missed something when cloning hda5 to hda7... - Worth a bugreport? - no online updates available (already mentioned in another thread) - some other bugs which were fixed some days ago (like #222728, #220273, #222478) did not hit Factory yet (aka yesterday, gwdg mirror). - How up to date is Factory currently? The good news: I could verify several bugs as fixed :-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Comic Sans Man möge mir verzeihen, aber ich möchte mich im Rahmen dieses Essays in erster Linie mit Schriften auseinandersetzen, nicht mit Krankheiten. [http://praegnanz.de/essays/136/typo-im-web-html-schriften-unter-der-lupe] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
Hello, Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 21:18 schrieb Robby (M9.): gpgkeys: key 5F9FD7E57E8BA438 not found on keyserver BTW: Your GPG key still isn't available on the keyservers :-( I can not believe, that i am the only one, who thinks, that the available partitioners do not work. If you do not use LVM, you can not use it to make changes afterwards.. Huh? If you use LVM, you can not make changes afterwards... Huh? (I don't use LVM, but I would be _very_ surprised if this was true.) If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to throw away, and recreate partitions, This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully. simply because you can not see what you are doing. Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or upload some screenshots somewhere ;-) You can only make partitions smaller, not move or resize a usable way.. it is not praktical to count all the cylinders, because than a simple transaction takes few hours, you have to calculate everything Again: I don't really understand your problems, please provide more details and/or screenshots. Everybody who uses them, knows that it is true what i am saying, because it is. Never say that you are everybody ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Und was lest ihr Jungs auf dem Klo??? Die c't haelt da ca. die 2 Wochen bis zur naechsten Ausgabe ;) Du verstehst das falsch... was du suchst ist die Zeitschrift Klopapier/Ausgabe: 3-lagig... :-) [ David Haller und Jan Theofel in linux-liste] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation
Hello, first: there's another issue: I could not register while update (None of the installed products can be registered at the Novell registration server.) - bugreport? Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 17:02 schrieb Juan Erbes: 2006/11/26, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Installation sources: Factory tree and inst-source-extra from yesterday, which should be newer than RC1. How has You made the update, online, or via CDs? Because online I could'nt make the update. I have mirrored Factory and -extra (with several --exclude's) and added the install kernel and initrd to my grub menu. http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD Regards, Christian Boltz -- URLs: absurd lange Worte die man nicht umbrechen darf [David Haller] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation
Hello, Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 18:14 schrieb Andras Mantia: On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:37, Christian Boltz wrote: - grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition) Possibly bug #223576? I don't think so for several reasons: - only one harddisk - booting works (with the old grub from 10.1) - 10.2's grub was obviously not even installed (your bugreport sounds like it was) - mixing things up in a way that exactly meets the 10.1 state from the other partition would be a bit too lucky ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: I see the update-test-trivial update again in both opensuse-updater and YOU after I have re-enabled the update source (side effect of the failed registration) -- echo `rpm -qpil *.rpm` | cat - packete.txt # [...] Hm, kriegt David da gerade im Hintergrund nen Nervenzusammenbruch ;-) *UUUARGGGh* *h* *nachLuftring* *schluchz* Warum quaelt ihr mich so? Was hab ich verbrochen? [ Manfred Tremmel und David Haller in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation
Hello, Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 17:34 schrieb Anders Johansson: [...] 10.1 installed grub to the /boot partition, and made it active. The MBR boots the active partition. Your 10.2 install could have installed grub to its /boot partition and never made it active. This could be why it doesn't show. To test this, start fdisk and make your 10.2 partition active, and reboot I guess that's pointless because my 10.1 grub lives in the MBR. Nevertheless, I'll make the 10.2 partition active - but I will replace the reboot by shutdown, sleep, boot ;-) so I will report back tomorrow. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Ich weiss leider nicht was du damit meinst. Was ist ein IE? [Franz Preihs in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 17:34 schrieb Stephan Kulow: Am Montag, 13. November 2006 20:53 schrieb David Mayr: I think SUSE artists can do much better that that washed out blue wallpaper gnome boredoom-style. I agree. If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. What about using the bootsplash image from tty1? It looks more friendly than the dark blue wallpaper ;-) Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. True words ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- So, Helm aufsetz und auf Steine wart ... *werf* *Steine! Flache Steine! Runde Steine! Grosse Steine! Kleine Steine!* *Wer will noch mal, wer hat noch nicht?* [ Manfred Tremmel und David Haller in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Deselecting Zenworks
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 09:31 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] b) Bug 215355 (my one): taboo'ing a pattern does not taboo the contained packages - which is (maybe) technically correct, but very confusing for users Please read bug 215355, especially comment #4 and #5. Ah I see - yes, we have to find ways to improve this in 10.3, IMHO you should change it in 10.2 already ;-) A proposal that doesn't do any harm and avoids lots of confusion: Current behaviour: If I click the checkmark of a selected pattern, it switches to taboo. Proposal: - switch to do not install (empty checkbox) (not to taboo) - taboo should _only_ be available via right mouse button because it's very rarely used for patters Regards, Christian Boltz -- liegt es vielleicht an den lauschigen 34°, die der Prozessor oder sowas nicht mitmacht? - Soll ich mit dem Rechner jetzt zum Baggersee rausfah- ren und ihm ne Abkühlung verpassen... [Sebastian Schulze in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] topics next dist meeting
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 20:21 schrieb Hans Witvliet: It's been a while ago since i experimented with crypto (beginning 10.1 ;-) But from what i recollect... 1) Using the general partitioner, with yast, results in a partition that gets mounted at startup. works well, but the partition gets mounted allways. It should be possible to mark it as mount by user and/or noauto in YaST. (However, I never tried that.) 2) Some people (not me) wants to encrypt EVERYTHING, inluding swap and root. AFAIK, that is still not possible. It is possible - with the exception of /boot. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encrypted-Root-Filesystem-HOWTO/ Perhaps its should be pointed out, that it both a) irrelevant, and b) counter productive. a) 90% on the harddisk is opensource and general available Well, encrypting _everything_ is really something that you need very rarely. However, it's important that you encrypt /tmp and (large parts of) /var because sooner or later your data leaks out to a tempfile or alike... Encrypted swap is also a good thing from the security point of view (you never know which of your data gets swapped out) - unfortunately it doesn't work with suspend2disk AFAIK. b) encrypting cost cpu-cycles,so hard disk will be slowed down. Of course, but with today's CPUs I consider this a minor problem. Usually the harddisk performance is the limiting factor, not the CPU. 3) best solution (imho) is to have for each individual user a seperate container, which gets mounted on his home directory after login (pam_mount) 4) for the the paranoia, have also /var/spool/mail en swap encrypted Nothing else is worthwhile As already said: /tmp and parts of /var (like /var/tmp, /var/lib/mysql, ...) can also contain sensitive data. A simple example: Click any attachment in KMail - it will be saved to /tmp/kde-$user/... temporarily. My paranoia level ;-) is: I have symlinked most of /var to my encrypted partition - except for /var/log, /var/lock and /var/run which would need some more tuning. See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=140226 for details. 5) for the super-paranoia, encrypt with the key from a smartcard. ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Hast du schon gehoert: Ein Bug im Netscape Navigator erlaubt es jedem, übers Internet deine Festplatte zu lesen. - Weiss ich, deshalb bleibe ich ja auch bei Netscape - wenn's ein Microsoft-Bug waere, dann dürfte jeder meine Festplatte auch noch beschreiben... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Deselecting Zenworks
Hello,
Am Sonntag, 12. November 2006 12:34 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I found deselecting Zenworks and selecting instead the lightweight
alternative to Zenworks did not prevent the ubiquitous Zenworks
from being installed. Note the red icon along side the deselected
Zenworks is defined as Taboo-Never Install
I know this has already been reported but I think this is
potentially very serious at this late stage of testing.
There're already bug reports for these -
The only one I found (searching for pattern taboo) is
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215355
(current state is INVALID...)
The problem is that marking a pattern as taboo does not mark the
contained packages as taboo. The packages are only unselected and can
be re-selected via dependencies (which happens with zmd).
This is not the expected behaviour and can cause confusion - especially
for the zenworks pattern which is probably the top taboo pattern ;-)
I'll check this next week,
Andreas, are there any results on this yet?
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization
Hello, Am Dienstag, 7. November 2006 01:35 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 12:01:15AM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote: two other candidate to fix for 10.2 I missed yesterday - both have the fix already included: [...] Both are fixed already in STABLE and will hit Beta2 ;) :-) [You need to watch opensuse-commit more closely ;)] Yes, seems so :-/ Regards, Christian Boltz -- Ich an seiner Stelle hätte den Fotografen reallife geplonkt. Wie entsteht denn in reallife dein *PLONK*? Beim Einschlag der Faust auf dem Auge? man Ernst August[Torsten Wiens und Cornell Binder in datr-s] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization
Hello, first: two other candidate to fix for 10.2 I missed yesterday - both have the fix already included: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190084 apparmor.vim missing The apparmor syntax highlighting file for vim is missing (was removed in 10.1 because it was terribly outdated). I have updated and fixed it. (well, vim syntax profiles can cause real headache...) The working file is attached to the bugreport. It simply needs to be added to the vim package. (Not sure if the assignee is the correct one.) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=188068 pin -v 100 foo tries to su 100 (su $2) The description says it all, and the fix is available. (Martin?) second: Am Montag, 6. November 2006 10:36 schrieb Marcus Meissner: On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:31:04AM +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:32:57PM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216485 zypp-checkpatches-wrapper does not get the suid-root bit if running with permissions.secure. This makes opensuse-updater unuseable. [...] You likely do not want users to be able to run system administrator tasks in secure mode at all, without root password protection. Hmm, zen-updater runs with permissions.secure in 10.1 [1] - and even grants _permanent_ permissions once one has entered the root password. Since I didn't install any updates with opensuse-updater yet: how does it handle installing updates? Does it ask for the root password every time when installing packages (as susewatcher did)? (If yes, I would consider it more secure than zen-updater.) It should probably not start opensuse-updater then. Not starting the updater at all isn't a solution also because not installing updates will make the system insecure over time. (Yes, I know that there's a difference bitween installing updates and being notified about updates - but it's easy to forget to run the update when nothing notifies you...) To sum it up: - being notified about updates should be available independend of the permissions.* level (I don't see that this could cause any harm because a user could also check the RPM database for outdated packages ;-) - missing notification could cause security problems (if nobody installs the fixed packages) - installing updates should require the root password (maybe permissions.easy could be an exception) If you really don't change your decision here, I foretell that this will become a FAQ for 10.2 ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS @ Christoph: regarding bug 171082: sorry, I only speak german, english, pfälzisch, bash, php, perl, (my)sql and HTML - but not ycp :-( [1] dunno for 10.2 - I uninstalled it ;) -- Wenn Du Dich weiter doof stellst, dann: Warning: loading builtin philipp-cool-down.dll. Couldn't be loaded! Expect trouble!!! [Philipp Zacharias in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] Remove zen-installer from gnome-main-menu
Hello, Am Sonntag, 5. November 2006 13:53 schrieb Anders Johansson: On Sunday 05 November 2006 13:48, Andreas Hanke wrote: [...] This is not so simple to decide. Zen-Installer supports the zmd permissions system so that people can use it without the root password on configured systems. This is a plus of Zen-Installer. This is something that should be added to opensuse-installer. NO! I consider the ZMD permission system broken by design (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215619) and it would be fatal to add the same broken thing to opensuse-installer/updater. If you _really_ like the zmd permission system, please continue using zen-installer ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- xslt, was? Wir kombinieren das Paradigma von awk mit der sprachlichen Eleganz von Cobol und den programmiertechnischen Verrenkungen von funktionalen Sprachen unter sorgfältiger Umgehung aller möglichen Vorteile.[Kristian Köhntopp] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization
Hello, Am Samstag, 4. November 2006 18:18 schrieb Christoph Thiel: while going through the openSUSE 10.2 RED bugs (Blocker/Criticals), I thought it might be a good idea to ask for some help regarding bug prioritization. My candidates: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216485 opensuse-updater shows error message in tooltip zypp-checkpatches-wrapper does not get the suid-root bit if running with permissions.secure. This makes opensuse-updater unuseable. Please reconsider the settings for permissions.secure (or remove zmd when running with permissions.secure - I consider its broken permission concept more critical ;-) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=148105 no error message when RPM database is missing YaST silently switches to new installation mode if I start in upgrade mode with the RPM database not available. There should be an error message that informs the user about the switch to new installation mode and the reason for it. Probably easy to fix (add the error message), and can avoid some problems. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166881 solver should provide dont delete $otherpackage as possible conflict solution. This one could avoid several conflict messages. However, I'm not sure if it should be done at this late stage of development :-/ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=171082 YaST2 AppArmor report module should use radio buttons instead of checkboxes for archived reports Just an enhancement, but a usability problem and probably easy to fix. I also vote for fixing all bugs that have a patch attached already. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wünschenswert wäre es auch, wenn Umfragen vor jeder Bundestagswahl, ob die Erst- oder die Zweitstimme die wichtigere sei, wenigstens soviele richtige Ergebnisse zeitigten, als würde man die gleiche Anzahl Schimpansen befragen. ;) [Bernd Brodesser in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] Remove zen-installer from gnome-main-menu
Hello, Am Sonntag, 5. November 2006 19:21 schrieb Klaus Kaempf: [...] Wouldn't it be nice to have a single, secure, system-wide mechanism to provide access control ? Future versions of the package patch management hopefully can make use of such a system. Sounds much better ;-) (I also like Marcus' idea about using sudo and/or kdesu.) For the records: I'd like to have the following permission levels in the package management: a) check for updates (suse-watcher style) b) install updates (including uninstalling obsolete and installing new requirements from existing installation sources) c) install / remove any package from existing installation sources The problem with zen-updater is that it currently needs b) and c), therefore people can easily add and remove other packages with zen-installer/-remover even if the admin isn't aware of this. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wer News über ein Webinterface liest, filmt auch die Tageszeitung, um sie auf dem Fernseher anzuschauen.[Henning Schlottmann] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Automounting in opensuse - explanation please#
Hello, Am Montag, 25. September 2006 17:33 schrieb Juan Erbes: 2006/9/25, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] if you need the cmdline, use halmount from package ivman. I installed the packege ivman, restarted the system, Hey, this is Linux, not M$ Windows ;-) and the problem continues. This confirms that a reboot is a) superfluous and b) useless when using Linux ;-) (OK, kernel updates are an exception.) Back to the topic: Did you read http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Automount_CD/DVD_with_ivman ? Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wie meinte doch neulich ein OS/2 oder CygWin-User: PATH=C:\backspace\return;E:\tab\newline;D:\home W:\pakete\mypaket\configure --prefix=F:\fondlinge [Ralf Corsepius in suse-programming] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making space for yast-gtk
Hello, Am Freitag, 22. September 2006 17:14 schrieb Ricardo Cruz: Em Sexta, 22 de Setembro de 2006 15:13, o Andreas Hanke escreveu: what do you think about adding a a possibility to override the auto-guessed setting. Maybe a setting YAST2_PREFERRED_FRONTEND somewhere in /etc/sysconfig with these values: If people would like that, it doesn't hurt to have... But it may make more sense to make that user specific, no? [...] Running YaST as user doesn't make much sence because the lack of permissions, so a system-wide setting won't be a real problem IMHO ;-) Not that yast-qt feels much better in KDE. ;) It's hard to make it better with such a general bugreport ;-) Where do you see problems? Which btw I would vote to add a kde feeling to it and integrate it on kcontrol for a future release. YaST was already embedded in kcontrol some time ago, but removed again. Reason IIRC: You can close kcontrol at any time (killing YaST) - with causes funny effects to YaST or your system (just imagine you close/kill it while installing packages...) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Linux ist ein tolles Dings. Es zeigt mir jeden Tag wieder völlig unaufdringlich meine Grenzen, und zeigt mir was ich alles noch nicht weiß [Axel Birndt in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha4 - my installation report
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 01:10 schrieb Rajko M: Andreas Jaeger wrote: Rajko M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] 12) gcc is not prerequisite (dependency) of kernel sources. If gcc is not installed what can I do with sources? Read them ? ;-) What about to fix prerequisites :-) Is it fixed (?). What about adding gcc and make as weak dependencies to kernel-source? Recommends would be a good option IMHO. BTW: I just wonder that kernel sources from 10.1 (didn't check 10.2 yet) require /sbin/insserv - did I miss something or is this a packaging bug? Regards, Christian Boltz -- printk(; corrupted filesystem mounted read/write - your computer will explode within 20 seconds ... but you wanted it so!\n); [/usr/src/linux/fs/hpfs/super.c] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
Hello, Am Dienstag, 5. September 2006 16:42 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Required (must have): [...] cpp ??? (only needed by xorg-x11 and gcc [on my 10.1 system] which are not in requirements) gnome-icon-theme Should be in a X or Gnome pattern instead. Nobody needs icons on tty1 ;-) m4 make I don't see why these are _required_... openssh should probably be in recommended only reiserfs Nobody needs this *g,dr* #if defined(__i386__) || defined (__x86_64__) [...] grub lilo #endif Both grub _and_ lilo? One of them is enough. Recommended (should have): qlogic-firmware Should be installed only if matching hardware exists (if possible) OpenIPMI and ipmitool What's this? Package summary (of 10.1) explains it in a recursive way (OpenIPMI is a free implementation for IPMI) - what's IPMI? Oh, and please try to find a better package description ;-) dos2unix Then please include unix2dos also ;-) finger Is finger still used? IMHO fingerd disabled on most machines for security reasons, so there's no point in including the client in the default installation. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Das Kommt darauf an, in welchen Zeiträumen du rechnest. Für Geologen: ja, in naher Zukunft :-) [Stefan Seyfried in suse-laptop] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: CLASS-A scripts
Hello, Am Montag, 4. September 2006 13:33 schrieb Christoph Thiel: [...] That's an optimization that should be implemented in any case. I don't think we will need to keep a last-run file, but rather compare the mtime of the sysconfig files with the resulting config files to figure out if we need to run SuSEconfig. Comparing the mtime of sysconfig and the resulting file won't work reliable. Think about the following scenario: A user first edits a sysconfig file (say sysconfig/postfix), then edits the resulting file (main.cf) by hand and runs SuSEconfig afterwards. When comparing timestamps of main.cf and sysconfig/postfix, SuSEconfig will see that main.cf is newer and will not update it. (I expect touch sysconfig/postfix advice in the mailinglists ;-) - but this can't be the solution.) While I usually don't like timestamp files and alike, they can prevent some trouble here ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: The above files are only examples and apply to all other generated config files too. -- He Mann, isse krasse, erste Wort: Kyptographie, isse schon falsch. Was machst du? Uuuhhh. Ist in der Listenkasse noch genug Geld für ein Wörterbuch? [ Ratti und Thorsten Haude in sl-etikette] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 23. August 2006 12:22 schrieb Volker Kuhlmann: [...] Give KDE users qt and Gnome users gkt ! Sure. Can I have a KDE gimp please? ;) kgtk? ;-) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 The better solution will be Portland as soon as it's finished. http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Regards, Christian Boltz -- 1.-4.9.2006: Weinfest in Insheim Pig Slip, Hifi-Delity, AH-Band, Frank Petersen und die Deafen Goblins spielen bei der Landjugend. Mehr Infos: www.Landjugend-Insheim.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 13:57 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My proposal: KMail, evolution and Thunderbird [1] should come with the local mailbox account /var/spool/mail/username preconfigured so that system mails will be received automatically. Please add this as a feature request on the wiki, OK, it's on http://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Wishlist/Misc now. BTW: Thanks for the (probably not intentional) reminder to propose a better handling for the wishlists. IMHO it's just painful to use the wiki for this... Reasons: - the wiki can't be searched by solution (there are some items marked as solved, but still listed on the page) - if something is finally removed as wontfix from a package wishlist, chances are good that it reappears sooner or later (may happen with done also if it is removed before next stable release) - the package wishlists have a very bad usability - if you want to add a comment or a wish, you have to find your way in the (long) tables My suggestion is to create a openSUSE Wishlist product in bugzilla (with the current wishlists as components), maybe with a special input form to have the fields that are currently in the wishlist always filled. (Yes, I know that there was a package wishlist in bugzilla already in pre-openSUSE times. And I wonder why it was moved to the wiki.) Regards, Christian Boltz -- 1.-4.9.2006: Weinfest in Insheim Pig Slip, Hifi-Delity, AH-Band, Frank Petersen und die Deafen Goblins spielen bei der Landjugend. Mehr Infos: www.Landjugend-Insheim.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] wishlist handling (was: Re: distribution meeting - introduction and agenda)
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 17:57 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Thanks for the (probably not intentional) reminder to propose a better handling for the wishlists. IMHO it's just painful to use the wiki for this... Yes, I know, we're looking into alternatives already, I'm glad to hear this :-) I hope the search for alternatives will be done in the public - the community has to use it [1], so you should involve us before any decision is taken. Regards, Christian Boltz [1] I don't know about the SUSE internals, but I guess you don't need to add a wishlist entry if you want a package or feature ;-) -- 1.-4.9.2006: Weinfest in Insheim Pig Slip, Hifi-Delity, AH-Band, Frank Petersen und die Deafen Goblins spielen bei der Landjugend. Mehr Infos: www.Landjugend-Insheim.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] sata partition limit
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 26. Juli 2006 19:33 schrieb Felix Miata: [error message while installing SUSE Linux 10.1:] If you install onto these disks, your RAID configuration and any data on the RAID will be lost. Refer to http://portal.suse.com to learn how to migrate to a Linux software RAID. This error message is outdated because portal.suse.com has been moved. Please open a bugreport, severity minor ;-) Unfortunately I can't help you with your main issue. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Das einzige Feature von OE das du unter Linux nicht nachgebaut bekommen wirst: Die Virenschleuder ;-)[Damian Philipp in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] sshd attacks blocked by default request
Hello, Am Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 12:24 schrieb houghi: As most people know, sshd attacks are very common. Also there are various tools out there that can be used to block these attacks. [...] It should be something that does not run with cron, as it is to slow to run only each minute. The ipt_recent module can do this job without adding a new package: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=104602 The only problem with this: it will also block IPs that legally open more than the allowed number of SSH connections per minute - but I don't consider this a real problem, who needs more than 5 [1] new SSH connections per minute? ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] number is configurable, of course -- Die Nutzung der Datenbank für die Bunte Mischung Deutschland veschiebt sich wegen Dämlichkeit des Programmierers auf unbestimmte Zeit. Wir bitten die Verzögerung zu entschuldigen und hoffen auf Ihr Verständnis! [Andreas Schott] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Workaround for saving selections (was: Re: Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2)
Hello,
Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 17:02 schrieb jdd:
right now [...] I can't save the selection with 10.1
I posted a possible workaround to the suse-linux mailinglist some time
ago, maybe it helps ;-)
You can save the package list with
rpm -qa --queryformat %{name}\n paketliste
Copy the file paketliste to the target machine and install all listed
packages with
xargs yast2 -i paketliste
(Of course, you have to setup the installation sources in YaST before.)
To optimize the operation, remove the already installed packages from
the list:
rpm -qa --queryformat '%{name}\n' | grep -Fvxf - paketliste \
| xargs yast2 -i
Disclaimer: This is completely untested!
(If you test it, please report back ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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Re: [opensuse-factory] You working style
Hello, Am Freitag, 16. Juni 2006 10:24 schrieb Klaus Kaempf: [...] I am working on moving our documentation to the opensuse wiki. If only the daily work would let me ... Maybe you should have written it in the wiki from the beginning ;-) Having a work in progress documentation (maybe with a warning about its status) is better than having (nearly) no documentation IMHO. And, extra benefit, you don't have to move it to the wiki afterwards *g* Don't get me wrong - I don't want to flame you, I just try to point out how things could be made better ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: Maybe the SDB migration script could be helpful for you - but I guess that idea is not new for you... -- Nur das W3C-Logo müsste auf dieser Seite eigentlich ausgeblendet werden und durch Ich bin eine HTML-Drecksau ersetzt werden. :-) [Ratti über das Gästebuch auf gesindel.de] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]
Hello, Am Samstag, 13. Mai 2006 04:18 schrieb Volker Kuhlmann: 3) Suggest a line in --help to be put into /etc/fstab, which allows any user to mount any ISO image from a defined public place at a predefined mount point. MAKE SURE(!) that dev,suid are on and auto is off on the mount options. You might find other options useful too. suid-root bash inside an ISO anybody? ;-) Or do you prefer a writeable b 3 0 device? (aka /dev/hda)? Sorry, but this isn't a good idea. Without dev and suid (mount options loop,ro,user) I currently don't see a security problem - but I can't guarantee I haven't overlooked something. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wo steht der Server eigentlich? Kann den die Putzfrau treten? Oder mal mit dem Staubsauger überfahren? Denen fallen ab und an Gemeinheiten ein auf die ein Normalsterblicher nie kommen würde. :\ [Daniel Lord in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
Hallo Leute, Am Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2006 03:58 schrieb houghi: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 09:06:36PM +0200, houghi wrote: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 08:41:01PM +0200, houghi wrote: Can you attach y2log files to the bugzilla report that is open? Will do after another testrun makeSUSEdvd on houghi.org is again updated. Done https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=81360action=view Due to all the fuzz, I noticed something else. When I use the is made with makeSUSEdvd, I do not get a 'Media Check' before the Licence agreement. Maybe this is because your media doesn't contain a checksum? (This is a wild guess - I didn't check your script and also don't know if YaST behaves this way.) /usr/share/doc/packages/checkmedia/README explains how the check works and how to add the checksum - maybe this is a nice feature for your script, too ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- [vordefinierte Perlvariablen $_, $, $[ usw.] Steht eigentlich in $§ die Lizenz? ;-))) $ perl -we 'print $§' Use of uninitialized value in print at -e line 1. [ Christian Boltz und David Haller in fontlinge-devel] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
Hello, Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 11:53 schrieb Marcus Meissner: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:52:43AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: [...] Er... what would be the solution for people that, like me, already updated from RC2 to RC3 using the dvd? You were lucky then I think :) I get this error: File content is signed with the following GnuPG key, but the integrity check failed: [...] Strange, this key should have been imported by default. Marcus, read the whole story again ;-) Carlos wrote he updated to RC3 using the _DVD_ Houghi's script changed the content file as before, but did not touch the signature file (it simply didn't know it yet). Therefore the broken signature is normal IMHO ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS @ random sig: another variant of security ;-) -- Error Message: Your Password Must Be at Least 18770 Characters and Cannot Repeat Any of Your Previous 30689 Passwords (Q276304) http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q276304 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 RC3
Hello, Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 03:08 schrieb Daniel: Yes. It worked for me in pt_BR. I noticed just one translation error. While installing packages with the new installer, it says in the progress bar Installing Pacotes. Someone forgot to change Installing for instalando. Is it worth a bug report or where else can i post it? Every bug is worth a bugreport ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- DealOnDemand Linux und Drogen, ich hab es schon immer gewusst ;-) [ Manfred Tremmel und Philipp Thomas in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory
Hello, Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 20:01 schrieb Marcus Meissner: On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 07:31:07PM +0200, houghi wrote: [...] Just so you know: create_package_descr does not work with RC3. Take a new create_package_descr out of the RC3 autoyast2 package. This one generates checksum when adding a -C option. I'm just playing bugzilla syncing - maybe this discussion should be continued at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166011 ;-) BTW: Why is the -C option necessary? If installation sources with checksums are default/required now, adding the checksum should be the _default_ behaviour. Regards, Christian Boltz -- LDAP! Ich wollte Rollschuhe, und sie banden mir an jeden Fuss einen Panzer. [Ratti in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] nut UPS problems with USB ports
Hello, Am Samstag, 22. April 2006 08:36 schrieb Graham Smith: How do I file a bug report as I'm using SuSE 10.0 but using the src.rpm from the current 10.1 factory repository. I'd say: file it against 10.1 - but please add a note that you are using this Factory package on a 10.0 system. If you have the possibility, you can also install 10.1 RC2 of course ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Konqueror/amaroK can't connect to any site
Hello, Am Montag, 10. April 2006 16:45 schrieb Mauricio Teixeira (netmask): [...] I disable KNM, changed the interface to old style and now all KDE apps work fine. So I guess I have two problems: a) KNM can't setup my wireless LAN; b) KNM puts KDE in offline mode even if I ifup the interface manually. Which one should I open a bug report? :) If in doubt: both ;-) (search bugzilla first, of course.) a) should contain a description of your hardware (which card etc.) b) could be a wontfix - but you can just try it ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- ...von den vier Mitgliedern der Nimbus Monospaced(!)-Familie ist angeblich nur die Regular Monospaced - die anderen sind... nun ja... proportional, nur eben alle gleich proportional. =%-) [Ratti in fontlinge-devel nach Auslesen der monospaced-Infos] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't find tomcat5-webapps on beta9
Hello, Am Samstag, 1. April 2006 12:06 schrieb James PEARSON: I just installed SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta9 and I wanted to install and test the apache2 - tomcat5 - mod_jk_ap20 connector combination. I found and installed apache2 and mod_jk_ap20 connector OK but I can't find tomcat5-webapps on the CDs. Is this normal? Can someone tell me where I can download tomcat5-webapps ? As always: The CDs don't have all packages because of limited disk space. You can find the remaining packages on the FTP server (ftp.opensuse.org, better use a mirror) - http://en.opensuse.org/Download Regards, Christian Boltz -- I tip my hat to the creators of the SomeFool virus, for actually (albeit temporarily and minimally) affecting my Linux experience. However, if that's the most damage I can get by running viruses with Wine under a dummy account, then it's clear that the Wine developers have a long way to go before Wine is truly Windows compatible. [http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222from=rss] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] dependencies: single-click
Hello, Am Samstag, 1. April 2006 03:22 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg: I am just trying to upgrade beta8 to beta9. My crux is: I have to click each single dependency conflict without seeing the total situation. Already reported by Andreas Vetter - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=159673 My guess is: impossible. BLOCKER! Feel free to adjust the severity of the mentioned bugreport ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Naja, nicht alles von IBM ist gut. Auch Microsoft hat außer Mäusen ja noch nichts bemerkenswertes produziert. [Olaf Kaluza in d.a.f.c] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] beta8 install package count error
Hello, Am Sonntag, 26. März 2006 00:42 schrieb Mauricio Teixeira (netmask): I've just installed SUSE 10.1beta8 using default KDE selection, and I found a strange behavior. The package countdown from CD1 reached zero, and it shows Finished, but it still installs about 10 or 15 packages more (forgot to count :). It also happens when finishing CD2, but it only installs 4 more. It didn't happen with CD3 or 4. Anyone else got this? Yes - you are not alone ;-) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=155283 You installed from CDs? Please add a comment about this to the bugreport to show the developers this bug is not restricted to NFS installations. BTW: It seems you use english as language, so please update the bug summary with the correct english text - I guess my back-translation isn't correct... Regards, Christian Boltz -- Zeitreisen vermeide ich immer, sollen irgendwie ungesund sein. [Helga Fischer in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitions mounted in /media, data directories off /
Hello, Am Montag, 20. Februar 2006 03:37 schrieb Chad Groneman: On Sunday 19 February 2006 09:06, Christian Boltz wrote: Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 19:55 schrieb Chad Groneman: [...] 3. My labeled partition seems to get different permissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media ll drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 592 2006-01-31 23:42 disk-2 drwsrwsrwt 6 root root 136 2006-02-17 19:03 STORAGE - Does / of the STORAGE partition have the permissions you get when it's mounted inside /media? Yes. Then it should be quite simple: chmod 755 /media/STORAGE/ while it is mounted. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount [...] /dev/hdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/hdb2 on /media/disk-1 type reiserfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/hdb5 on /media/STORAGE type reiserfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/sda2 on /media/disk-2 type reiserfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) Looks OK and doesn't differ between the partitions mounted in /media. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Wahrscheinlich habe ich wieder fürchterlichen Code produziert, aber du bist ja mittlerweile schon beinahe mein persönlicher Codestaubsauger. ;-) [Andreas Schott] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] WARNING about FACTORY ftp installations
Hello, Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2006 22:37 schrieb Azerion: Could someone confirm the problem of Sax2 resetting the display-resolution while you only changed mouse-settings? If so I will check bugzilla for it (lazy boy) and if not listed will report. Do you run sax2 from inside your X session or from a tty? Regards, Christian Boltz -- Sicher ist genau eines: Alle Kabel abziehen, Funkanbindungen ausbauen, im Garten eine tiefe Grube graben, rein mit dem Rechner und mit Beton auffüllen. Alles andere ist nur trügerische Sicherheit. [Adalbert Michelic in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
