RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
This is the same point I have been hammering to Orion for a while. Orion makes a wonderful product, but how do those outside of the Orion world know that? If you never heard of the state of Hawaii, and I told you a hundred years ago it's a great island to sail to, would you believe me? If I printed up some descriptive literature, and put pretty pictures in them, would you be inclined to take the trip? So what does Orion need? A good, organized manual, with topic headings, like the jboss manual provides. Detailed worked out examples, like the site www.jollem.com provides. Go to a site like Jrun or ewave, download the documentation, and review it. Don't write the doc yourself, but hire a good tech writer. If you need one, I can recommend one from my writing class that can make the Orion doc read like "Gone with the Wind". Make the documentation so simple, I could give it to my janitor and he will say -- J2EE, yee haw! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 1:30 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] A better description of Orion as a product! I have dedicated a lot of time of testing things that both work and does not seem to work, for example JMS and otherthings. The feature list on the frontpage is accordingly to "thin". And yes I have been reading the mailing list, but is not easy for beginners. So, some decsription, characterisation (data sheet) or whatever of the product, that tells the user or byuer what they get and what the orionserver can handle. And as pointed out before, the documentation could be better (sorry Magnus, very general). Have you seen the new documentation for JBoss. /Theis.
Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Hi! there, I am not trying to patronise Orion but hey !! the clustering does work,I tried it with the news-app it works though I had some problem with the hsql inregards with connections but yes the clustering works!! along with the load balancer.As my friend Kevin Duffey gave me direction it worked. The files you would have to modify are default-web-site.xml web-site host="localhost" port="8080" display-name="Default Orion WebSite" cluster-island="1"> similarly in the other orion also!! http://www.orionserver.com/docs/http-clustering.html I hope this helps!! though I have not given you all the details please try it out!! and see otherwise... I have a problem I just wish to have a say.. HelloWorld deployed in two orion!! in cluster now I wish to use a client call and see hello world from both the server If I give client call the Orion on my c: gives result!! the d: is up and running!! Now I shut down the one on C: and again give a client call but it throws this error Communication error: Error reading application-client descriptor: Error looking up EJBHome: Lookup error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information Note:In the config of c: I have rmi.xml file with no port specified!!assuming orion assigns a default one!! In my d: orion in the same file I have added a port number!! It is on the server wherein I have specified the port number that the client request is never serviced!! the client request is always being serviced by that orion which has no port number mentioned!!! If I assign both of them a port number then one the orions start are discovered by the loadbalancer!! but at the client call I always have exceptions raised!! Communication error: Error reading application-client descriptor: Error looking up EJBHome: Lookup error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information none of the Orions service my client request There is a problem in specifying my rmi ports!! or maybe I have configured properly!! Please help!! Note:When I tried the news-app in a cluster it works very fine!!! atleast incase I shut down my one server the request is taken care of by the other!!! but here in this HelloWorld app how do I go about it?? Thanks Mohit Have a nice day :-) Dylan Parker wrote: Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker -- * The information contained in this message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it from your system immediately - any disclosure, copying or distribution thereof or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance thereon is prohibited and may be unlawful.AITPL makes no warranty as to the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this message and hereby excludes any liability of any kind for the information contained herein or for the transmission, reception, storage or use of such information in any way whatsoever. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of AITPL. *
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Hi!
As far as I know, Orion does not support EJB tier clustering (only web
clustering). Meaning: there is no auto-failover calls to an EJB in another
server in a cluster and there is no state replication for stateful EJBs,
etc. However, there is no reason why you can't wrap your calls to EJBs to
make calling different servers transparent to client code. In the process, u
can take advantage of some of Orion's features to make this possible.
To be honest with you... I have not tried this, but here it goes!
Clustering EJBs in Orion
---
1.) Wrap all calls to EJBs in a class that checks for success/failure of the
call and can retry on another server (psuedo code below).
2.) When there is a failure, how do you contact another server? Answer:
Orion's InitialContextFactory implementations have the ability to add
multiple hosts into the URL. Documentation from the Orion API
RMIInitialContextFactory goes something like this:
"java.naming.provider.url - The target URL, it's format is:
[http:|https:]ormi://hostname/applicationname. Prefixing with http: or
https: enables http(s) tunneling. It is possible to supply multiple hosts
(for failover) by using a comma-seperated list. For instance
ormi://first.server.com,ormi://second.server.com."
I believe this gives you automatic failover for initial context lookups at
least.
psuedo code:
while (numOfTries 3) {
try {
numOfTries++;
Context ctx = getMyInitialContext();
// ctx to serverA first time, if serverA is dead, returns context to
serverB, etc.
myEJBHome home = (myEJBHome)ctx.lookup("myEJBHome");
myEJB bean = home.create();
numOfTries = 4; //get out of loop
}
catch(RemoteException ex) {
// loop back, get an initial context to another server, and try again!
}
}
I suggest encapsulating this logic in a Command pattern.
3.) If everything is stateless, you are fine. If you are using entity
beans, then you'll have to configure some stuff to make sure state is
handled correctly and you are always looking at the freshest data.
For entities, in the orion-ejb-jar.xml descriptor, set your attribute for
"exclusive-write-access=false" to force Orion to go back to the database to
reload the entity bean. Otherwise, flush the cache as specified in another
thread on this discussion group. Going back to the DB everytime is how many
J2EE servers handle clustered entitybeans including WebLogic. So don't feel
this is too much of a hack.
4.) TODO: Figure out a load-balancing scheme. The InitialContext scheme I
mentioned is really only a failover option. It always contacts the first
server in the URL, then the next if it fails.
Anybody have time to guinea pig this solution? Anybody see holes in it?
Open for suggestion.
Jason
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Importance: High
Hello, all.
My company is about to drop Orion.
The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues,
the absence of company responses, the documentation issues...
We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back.
In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little
longer, can anyone provide me with the following information?
How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion?
Has anyone made this work?
Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps?
If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come.
Thanks,
Dylan Parker
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
The problem is that the Orion team is great at building a product, but need some lessons on marketing it. Very few people on the list -- myself included -- say anything really negative about the product. But I (and many others) have strong reservations about the documentation. Granted, if you have worked with another EJB server, or have the patience to use a trial and error approach with the existing documentation, you can get things to work. But it is not how to really market a product. Has anyone from Orion ever looked at the Jboss (www.jboss.org) or Jonas (www.evidian.com/jonas) documentation? While it does not compare to products like Oracle or Jrun, it is getting better with each new release. I am trying to implement some helpful suggestions to Orion to increase their marketing presence, and give them some leverage over other commercial class contenders, like Unify Ewave, and the open source products (Enhydra, Openejb, Jboss, Jonas). -Original Message- From: Ray Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Dylan, I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ? The last entry was 15 February 2001. Read the Tuesday 13th Dec "Into the Future" entry. It has some other notes and yes, I find it strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money. I've thought about going to Sybase for their products. The documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has 09iAS). I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Importance: High Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Hello, stay tune for a little while longer (if you want to and are able to). There will be a clustering-howto released in roughly a week or so (no promises though, just an estimate), and yes there's plenty of support (and more to come). The doc will be kind of an 'umbrella doc' to the already released http-clustering-howto covering the other tiers of an application. While on that note, what are the other especially wanted areas for improved/more elaborate documentation (howto's and similar)? Please be as specific as possible (ie the opposite of "improved overall documentation" :) and keep in mind that the security-primer is already in the pipe. Thanks in advance! /Magnus Stenman, the Orion team PS. Not getting a reply when asking where to send money do sound strange indeed. We're understaffed relative to the demand so we have a hard time getting back to sales queries etc, but actual ordering should not be any problem whatsoever. Can you please forward what you sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to me as well and I'll try to see what has happened to it. Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Dylan Parker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001, Magnus Stenman wrote: While on that note, what are the other especially wanted areas for improved/more elaborate documentation (howto's and similar)? Please be as specific as possible (ie the opposite of "improved overall documentation" :) and keep in mind that the security-primer is already in the pipe. A tuning HOWTO would we great. How to configure orion-ejb-jar.xml to limit number of in-memory instances of EJBs, how to specify passivation delay, how to limit EJB pool sizes. A little introduction about orion handles these pools would be great, too. -- Etienne Bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grey Interactive France - http://www.gifrance.com/
Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
While on that note, what are the other especially wanted areas for improved/more elaborate documentation (howto's and similar)? UserManager, RoleManager etc.
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
I've worked with all of the other EJB Servers (Enhydra, JBoss, Jonas, etc). I do find the OrionServer to be far better (nice complex O-R mapping, web and app server in one, etc). For documentation, I refer to www.orionsupport.com, which is doing a great job. - Brian Chan On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote: The problem is that the Orion team is great at building a product, but need some lessons on marketing it. Very few people on the list -- myself included -- say anything really negative about the product. But I (and many others) have strong reservations about the documentation. Granted, if you have worked with another EJB server, or have the patience to use a trial and error approach with the existing documentation, you can get things to work. But it is not how to really market a product. Has anyone from Orion ever looked at the Jboss (www.jboss.org) or Jonas (www.evidian.com/jonas) documentation? While it does not compare to products like Oracle or Jrun, it is getting better with each new release. I am trying to implement some helpful suggestions to Orion to increase their marketing presence, and give them some leverage over other commercial class contenders, like Unify Ewave, and the open source products (Enhydra, Openejb, Jboss, Jonas). -Original Message- From: Ray Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Dylan, I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ? The last entry was 15 February 2001. Read the Tuesday 13th Dec "Into the Future" entry. It has some other notes and yes, I find it strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money. I've thought about going to Sybase for their products. The documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has 09iAS). I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Importance: High Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Couldn't agree with you more. The product is great (for the price), the user support site is doing an excellent job, along with www.jollem.com. However, my point about marketing still stands, and they need to beef up the documentation to win over more converts (which they said today they would attempt to do). -Original Message- From: Brian Wing Shun Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 3:21 PM To: Kemp Randy-W18971 Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] I've worked with all of the other EJB Servers (Enhydra, JBoss, Jonas, etc). I do find the OrionServer to be far better (nice complex O-R mapping, web and app server in one, etc). For documentation, I refer to www.orionsupport.com, which is doing a great job. - Brian Chan On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote: The problem is that the Orion team is great at building a product, but need some lessons on marketing it. Very few people on the list -- myself included -- say anything really negative about the product. But I (and many others) have strong reservations about the documentation. Granted, if you have worked with another EJB server, or have the patience to use a trial and error approach with the existing documentation, you can get things to work. But it is not how to really market a product. Has anyone from Orion ever looked at the Jboss (www.jboss.org) or Jonas (www.evidian.com/jonas) documentation? While it does not compare to products like Oracle or Jrun, it is getting better with each new release. I am trying to implement some helpful suggestions to Orion to increase their marketing presence, and give them some leverage over other commercial class contenders, like Unify Ewave, and the open source products (Enhydra, Openejb, Jboss, Jonas). -Original Message- From: Ray Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Dylan, I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ? The last entry was 15 February 2001. Read the Tuesday 13th Dec "Into the Future" entry. It has some other notes and yes, I find it strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money. I've thought about going to Sybase for their products. The documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has 09iAS). I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Importance: High Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
--- Etienne Bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A tuning HOWTO would we great. How to configure orion-ejb-jar.xml to limit number of in-memory instances of EJBs, how to specify passivation delay, how to limit EJB pool sizes. A little introduction about orion handles these pools would be great, too. Yes! I second these suggestions! Very important for people who are implementing. - Phil __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Documentation wanted - WAS RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
On that note, it's about time I asked again what documentation people do want? OrionSupport survives on people's donations of documentation, tips, tricks and tutorials and we thank them very much for that. People often ask "what can I write" - well now is your time to tell us. Email me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and tell us what specific areas that you would like documentation on, then we'll compile a list and try our hardest to get it done. Anyone? Topics? Questions? Areas of confusion? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Wing Shun Chan Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 8:21 AM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] I've worked with all of the other EJB Servers (Enhydra, JBoss, Jonas, etc). I do find the OrionServer to be far better (nice complex O-R mapping, web and app server in one, etc). For documentation, I refer to www.orionsupport.com, which is doing a great job. - Brian Chan On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote: The problem is that the Orion team is great at building a product, but need some lessons on marketing it. Very few people on the list -- myself included -- say anything really negative about the product. But I (and many others) have strong reservations about the documentation. Granted, if you have worked with another EJB server, or have the patience to use a trial and error approach with the existing documentation, you can get things to work. But it is not how to really market a product. Has anyone from Orion ever looked at the Jboss (www.jboss.org) or Jonas (www.evidian.com/jonas) documentation? While it does not compare to products like Oracle or Jrun, it is getting better with each new release. I am trying to implement some helpful suggestions to Orion to increase their marketing presence, and give them some leverage over other commercial class contenders, like Unify Ewave, and the open source products (Enhydra, Openejb, Jboss, Jonas). -Original Message- From: Ray Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Dylan, I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ? The last entry was 15 February 2001. Read the Tuesday 13th Dec "Into the Future" entry. It has some other notes and yes, I find it strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money. I've thought about going to Sybase for their products. The documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has 09iAS). I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Importance: High Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
I would like to see the documentation for the orion deployment descriptors fleshed out. Right now it's sparse and choppy, with some sentences just cut off in the middle. Verbose explanations with examples would be a major improvement. More than anything else, though, I think Orion needs a FAQ-O-MATIC. Jeff -Original Message- From: Magnus Stenman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 7:43 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Hello, stay tune for a little while longer (if you want to and are able to). There will be a clustering-howto released in roughly a week or so (no promises though, just an estimate), and yes there's plenty of support (and more to come). The doc will be kind of an 'umbrella doc' to the already released http-clustering-howto covering the other tiers of an application. While on that note, what are the other especially wanted areas for improved/more elaborate documentation (howto's and similar)? Please be as specific as possible (ie the opposite of "improved overall documentation" :) and keep in mind that the security-primer is already in the pipe. Thanks in advance! /Magnus Stenman, the Orion team PS. Not getting a reply when asking where to send money do sound strange indeed. We're understaffed relative to the demand so we have a hard time getting back to sales queries etc, but actual ordering should not be any problem whatsoever. Can you please forward what you sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to me as well and I'll try to see what has happened to it. Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Dylan Parker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
An LDAPUserManager would be very nice, or at least some good docs on that whole schema so we could implement our own. I'm struggling through that now myself. Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Stenman Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:43 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] While on that note, what are the other especially wanted areas for improved/more elaborate documentation (howto's and similar)? Please be as specific as possible (ie the opposite of "improved overall documentation" :) and keep in mind that the security-primer is already in the pipe. Thanks in advance!
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
I think that we also need an explanation of what goes in the field, not what are valid values that it accepts. Some fields I look at in the XML are totally a question to me and I don't know why you would put one value in when compared to another. I would like to see the documentation for the orion deployment descriptors fleshed out. Right now it's sparse and choppy, with some sentences just cut off in the middle. Verbose explanations with examples would be a major improvement. More than anything else, though, I think Orion needs a FAQ-O-MATIC. Jeff -Original Message- From: Magnus Stenman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 7:43 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Hello, stay tune for a little while longer (if you want to and are able to). There will be a clustering-howto released in roughly a week or so (no promises though, just an estimate), and yes there's plenty of support (and more to come). The doc will be kind of an 'umbrella doc' to the already released http-clustering-howto covering the other tiers of an application. While on that note, what are the other especially wanted areas for improved/more elaborate documentation (howto's and similar)? Please be as specific as possible (ie the opposite of "improved overall documentation" :) and keep in mind that the security-primer is already in the pipe. Thanks in advance! /Magnus Stenman, the Orion team PS. Not getting a reply when asking where to send money do sound strange indeed. We're understaffed relative to the demand so we have a hard time getting back to sales queries etc, but actual ordering should not be any problem whatsoever. Can you please forward what you sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to me as well and I'll try to see what has happened to it. Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Dylan Parker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Dylan, I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ? The last entry was 15 February 2001. Read the Tuesday 13th Dec "Into the Future" entry. It has some other notes and yes, I find it strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money. I've thought about going to Sybase for their products. The documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has 09iAS). I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] Importance: High Hello, all. My company is about to drop Orion. The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues, the absence of company responses, the documentation issues... We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back. In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little longer, can anyone provide me with the following information? How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion? Has anyone made this work? Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps? If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come. Thanks, Dylan Parker
