Re: [osdcmy] Multiple Perspectives Technology Appropriation: Analysis of Open Source Software Implementation Failure

[Ghodmode]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel  wrote:

> Team,
>
> Read this paper carefully. This paper describes a case study conducted
> at one of Malaysia’s public universities which initially adopted Open
> Source based applications but then later rejected them.
>
> I will discuss it further later.
>
> http://www.pacis-net.org/file/2010/S26-01.pdf
>
> http://www.pacis-net.org/index.jsp?t=proceeding&y=2010
>
> Multiple Perspectives Technology Appropriation:
> Analysis of Open Source Software Implementation
> Failure
>

I read the research findings hoping to learn about some problems with Open
Source Software or within the OSS Community that I could turn into
constructive criticism, but I couldn't find any.  The thing is, this was a
very poorly handled implementation.

Although it's not really clear from the research paper, I think that the IT
director did all the work.  That's pretty cool, but he just ignored the most
important advantage of Open Source Software... the community.

This inspired another blog post from me: OSS
Fail?
The article is specifically related to the study and addresses key points on
specific pages.

The whole thing started at ETU in 2004.  Incidentally, that's the year I
moved to Malaysia.  I would think the people (person?) who worked on this
project would be part of OSDCMY, but somehow I doubt it.

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Abstract
>
> Adoption of new technology such as Open Source Software (OSS) is one
> of the important issues in organizations. Despite being considered as
> cost effective by many organizations, OSS implementation still
> encounters many challenges.
>
> This paper describes a case study conducted at one of Malaysia’s
> public universities which initially adopted Open Source based
> applications but then later rejected them. An integrated framework
> that combines a multiple perspectives approach and the Model of
> Technology Appropriation is proposed in this study.
>
> This framework facilitates the understanding of why and how
> organizations adopt and use OSS. The study identified various criteria
> influencing the OSS appropriation process from multiple perspectives
> in the organization as well as its status of OSS appropriation. This
> understanding assists in effective implementation decisions which
> could lead to more effective use of the OSS technology.
>
> Keywords: Multiple Perspectives, Open Source Software, Technology
> Appropriation.
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Re: [osdcmy] Congratulations on 20 years of Linux

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But still, pay RM1.40 for a RM0.50 stamp, it is still quite expensive, lol

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Re: [osdcmy] Congratulations on 20 years of Linux

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Eh? now so cheap already ar?
Last time damn expensive...

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Re: [osdcmy] Multiple Perspectives Technology Appropriation: Analysis of Open Source Software Implementation Failure

[Ghodmode]

This probably should've been posted on the thread about the study, not the
thread about my blog entry :)

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> in my humble opinion. the study is very very poor :
>
>1. what were the solutions used ?
>2. what were the statistics ?
>
> i would agree with the observations though on how to screw up oss
> implementations:
>
>1. no proper technology transfer
>2. loss in mgmt will
>3. poor project mgmt - deduced from lack of documentation
>4. no continuous improvement programs (cip)
>5. environment impact assessment : how does it affect culture, people,
>processes, infrastructure, etc
>
> actually this is common for all technology implementations. the biggest
> fallacy is the belief that a software will solve a problem !
>
> they forget that people solve problems, not machines ! well, at least not
> yet. machines are just dumb edp operators !
>
> some machines cant even do simple plus and minus operations !
>
>
> http://software.krimnet.com/web-browser/cpu-precision-bug-plus-minus-operation.htm
>
> try copy and paste this into a spreadsheet program : then view all decimal
> places :
>
> =161001.165-10.009-6.7-1000.456
>
>
For the most part, I agree with you, but I think that most of the problems
with the study reflect back on the organization that failed to do the OSS
implementation.  They were disorganized.  All the researchers could do was
ask questions after everything was all over.  It looks like the organization
really didn't know what happened.

I agree with you on most of your points.  Actually my "End Your Addiction!"
article was originally part of a larger article about the OSS implementation
failure in the study.  I make many of the same points, but I state them from
a slightly different perspective.  I was looking for problems that we could
correct either in OSS or in the OSS community, but all I found was problems
in the way they went about the implementation.

I'm almost done... :D

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RE: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development

[Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani]

okay my bad. The portal framework is Gridsphere. VT is actually one of the grid 
components to support the grid middleware.

after much fiddling, hair-pulling, and Starcrafting, I managed to get a 
workaround to my problem. But the API thing is still unresolvable. 

I see API as a sort of library that can be used during our project development. 
If I want a certain function to work on my project, I still refer to the API 
and use the packages available. Is this a good reflection of what API is? How 
do you people use API?

Please correct me if I am wrong.



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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:34:09 +0800
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development
From: rajaiskand...@gmail.com
To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com

ok i am trying to guess what you are trying to do
vine toolkit is not really a framework ! it's a library to give you nice grids 
: http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/ - think of it like jquery ui

flex is a framework : http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/look at demo using 
liferay as the portal framework : 
http://vinetoolkit.org/content/vine-and-liferay
liferay has a lot more documentation, so use it to create your portlet, then 
only put the vine toolkit layer on top of it.if you are using the flex ide, 
consider using eclipse or netbeans or intellij or something 

i dont use liferay, nor do i use flex. this is the first time i am looking at 
vine.

spend time learning and using web application frameworks like liferay, grails, 
adempiere, then if anything goes wrong, blame it on the framework !


would be really cool if you could write about how to use the api in adempiere. 
maybe you can create a blogging website or forum using adempiere.





On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel  
wrote:

Anyone can help her on this?



On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani

 wrote:

> Assalamualaikum and hi everyone

>

>

>

> Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use an

> API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API?

> http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html)

>

> I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself

> getting into this very deep confusion and tense.

>

> I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit is

> the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching

> directories and files without really knowing what am I doing.

>

> Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the

> question. I'm divorcing Google.

>



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Re: [osdcmy] New Article: "End Your Addiction!"

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

in my humble opinion. the study is very very poor :

   1. what were the solutions used ?
   2. what were the statistics ?

i would agree with the observations though on how to screw up oss
implementations:

   1. no proper technology transfer
   2. loss in mgmt will
   3. poor project mgmt - deduced from lack of documentation
   4. no continuous improvement programs (cip)
   5. environment impact assessment : how does it affect culture, people,
   processes, infrastructure, etc

actually this is common for all technology implementations. the biggest
fallacy is the belief that a software will solve a problem !

they forget that people solve problems, not machines ! well, at least not
yet. machines are just dumb edp operators !

some machines cant even do simple plus and minus operations !

http://software.krimnet.com/web-browser/cpu-precision-bug-plus-minus-operation.htm

try copy and paste this into a spreadsheet program : then view all decimal
places :

=161001.165-10.009-6.7-1000.456




On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ghodmode  wrote:

> Inspired by some of the statements made in a research study linked to in
> the OSDCMY list (here ), I wrote a new article at my
> blog entitled "End Your Addiction!".
>
> The study (PDF): MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES TECHNOLOGY APPROPRIATION: ANALYSIS
> OF OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION FAILURE 
>
> When reading about "compatibility problems" as mentioned in the study, I
> started thinking about users of proprietary software, their expectations and
> their needs.  I realized that there were a surprising number of similarities
> between use of proprietary software and the use of addictive drugs.  I wrote
> my article based on that metaphor and it didn't fall apart.
>
> The article: End Your 
> Addiction!
>
> As always, if you want to comment on the article, please comment at my blog
> rather than in the mailing list... it makes me feel good :)
>
> Thank you.
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Re: [osdcmy] Congratulations on 20 years of Linux

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

We can make one...

http://www.pos.com.my/pos/personal/stamp/personalised_stamp.aspx

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Garfield WTF  wrote:
> I am wondering is there any country's post office got release 1st day cover
> stamp.
> I would hope to collect stamp for this Linux anniversary.
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[osdcmy] Re: 1 Malaysia Training(Kursus Percuma)

[Basyeer Linux]

kat ADTEC Alor Gajah Melaka,

boleh refer link ni untuk tempat

http://www.jtm.gov.my/ver09/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=207&Itemid=127

On Apr 8, 11:19 am, Soire Meira  wrote:
> wah aku pon xtau ada kt mlaka nih.. kt mna tuh.. nk jgk.. ada ajar backtrack
> ek.. best3.. :P
>
> Pada 8 April 2011 11:15 AM, Basyeer Linux  menulis:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > yup, ia bergantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan
> > itu yang rugi, dekat taiping tak jauh dari umah saya, tidak disediakan
> > kursus open source..
> > setakat ini cume dia melaka..
> > itu yang saya nak bold kan event ini, saya dah apply untuk sertai tapi
> > en tersebut menunggu 10 baru akan dilakukan kursus tersebut
>
> > di situ juga saya quote dari thread tersebut
>
> > "Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> > ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> > modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> > contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> > kami mampu.
>
> > kalau ada special request customize modul yg kami tak mampu ajar.
> > contohnya nak belajar backtrack.
> > pakar2 backtrack boleh gunakan kemudahan lab secara percuma.
> > kami sediakan hardware + fotostat nota + file + pen + bukak tutup lab
> > + print sijil.
> > tuan sebagai lecturer kat depan kelas. pensyarah jemputan + cari
> > peserta.
> > tapi makan minum sendiri. tak disediakan. bajet makan tak dapat.
> > pm sy utk bincang lebih lanjut
>
> > update utk adtec melaka.
> > comfirm date
> > 11-12/4 - kumpulan nurse hsptl alor gajah - excell
>
> > under progress
> > 23-24/4 - kumpulan guru JAIM - softskil - group 1 -linuxdesktop
> > (sabily-cikgu tadika agama)
> > - group 2 -openoffice/libreoffice atau internet dan blog
> > ? - selected guru JAIM yg ada bakat teknikal - kemahiran repair dan
> > maintence pc dan networking
> > - tarikh akan ditentukan kemudian.
>
> > ? April - kumpulan pelajar ADTEC Melaka- php , video editor , linux
> > desktop , CISCO swicthing.
>
> > ? April - Kumpulan makcik2 cleaner ADTEC Melaka - softskill -
> > kemahiran internet.
>
> > PENDAFTARAN DALAM KUMPULAN AMATLAH DIALUKAN. MUDAH UNTUK TENTUKAN
> > TARIKH PROGRAM."
>
> > dia boldkan bahawa pendaftaran dalam kumpulan is better, saya sanggup
> > juga pergi dibawah nama OSDC sekiranya terdapat ahli yang ingin
> > belajar..
>
> > and untuk jujur, saya berkeinginan juga untuk mohon apa2 'kerja
> > kosong' yang di iklankan di sini, cume qualification die memerlukan
> > ilmu tertentu
>
> > saya lack on this kerana saya cume ada basic knowledge it dan melalui
> > kursus seperti ini saya dapat gain ilmu2 tersebut
>
> > harap hal ini dapat dipertimbangkan
>
> > On Apr 8, 7:35 am, Harisfazillah Jamel 
> > wrote:
> > > Maklumat 1Malaysia Training
>
> > >http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/en/home/66/455-1-malaysia-tra...
>
> > >http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/bm/component/content/article/455
>
> > > Saya percaya ia begantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan dan
> > > permintaan. Setakat ini saya baca hanya di ADTEC Alor Gajah.
>
> > > 2011/4/8 sallehy :
>
> > > > Wah..menarik...boleh belajar Calc...dan..
> > > > "
> > > > Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> > > > ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> > > > modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> > > > contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> > > > kami mampu."
>
> > > > tapi kenapa di Melaka? atau ada juga di sekitar KL?
> > > > 2011/4/8 Basyeer Linux 
>
> > > >> Ok, this is an advertisement from our government
> > > >> what i want to bold is there are agencies that ready to teach open
> > > >> source
>
> > > >> there is a thread from JomLinux forum
>
> > > >>http://forum.jomlinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1284
>
> > > >> Kursus Percuma : Latihan 1 Malaysia : OPENSOURCE
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Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia

[Maulvi Bakar]

Yusof

Ini adalah harga untuk dedicated server subscription bayar bulanan ke atau
harga jual server R210?

Kalau jual, giler murah! Saya sokong!!

Kalau subscription untuk dedicated server, saya punya saranan, on the long
run, ianya terlalu mahal!


Regards

Maulvi


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Yusof Khalid - FreeBSD / OpenBSD <
frysha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> dah senyap pulak hehe.. kami ada server dedicated kalau kawan2 nak guna
> boleh.
> fix price ~ RM450
> Dell service tag : 4pjg52s
>
> kalau ada fund boleh la setup untuk mirror yang telah dibincangkan :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Muhamad Hisyam Bin Nasir <
> hisyamna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sungguh menarik topic yang dibincangkan, saya bersedia untuk membantu
>> komuniti tuk jayakan project Mirror.
>>
>> saya cadangkan kita pakai colo dari company @Yusof Khalid, sekarang pon
>> saya tengah guna colo dari dia.
>> mintak @Yusof Khalid dapat adjust the best price tuk colo nanti hehe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:14 AM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>>
>>> +100
>>>
>>> TIME Fibre Broadband.
>>>
>>> On 28 March 2011 11:08, Hafiz Bhari  wrote:
>>>
 Kita langgan unifi dan buat mirror dirumah masing-masing. Amacam?


 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
 linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Criteria depends on each of the  mirror that you want to mirror.
>
> For example from Ubuntu Mirror
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
>
> Internet Bandwidth around 100MBS or 1GBS.
>
> and disk space
>
> 382GB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive.
>
> 39GB for Ubuntu release CD images.
>
> Last setup for OSCC MAMPU I had set it up using sedot for mirror
> management.
>
> https://launchpad.net/sedot
>
> 2) The Benefit
>
> - We return back to OSS community by off load mirror servers around
> the world. Malaysia mirrors will be used request from Malaysia.
>
> - Faster request (suppose to) because the mirror should be in Malaysia
> Internet network. Tak perlu lalu kabel dasar laut Jepun atau Hong Kong
> yang selalu putus. :)
>
> - For popularity. Name of the mirror will be place at Mirror website
> of each of Distros that we mirror.
>
> - Good for our telekom company. The traffic for mirror locally in
> Malaysia, rather than across the ocean. Cheaper fee for the cabel.
> Telekom should give discount to our mirror providers.
>
> - Hasanuddin has a good point.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM,   wrote:
> > Yes brother, agree with you.
> > What is the criteria to become a mirror.
> > And another thing is, what is the benefit if we become a mirror.
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[osdcmy] New Article: "End Your Addiction!"

[Ghodmode]

Inspired by some of the statements made in a research study linked to in the
OSDCMY list (here ), I wrote a new article at my blog
entitled "End Your Addiction!".

The study (PDF): MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES TECHNOLOGY APPROPRIATION: ANALYSIS OF
OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION FAILURE 

When reading about "compatibility problems" as mentioned in the study, I
started thinking about users of proprietary software, their expectations and
their needs.  I realized that there were a surprising number of similarities
between use of proprietary software and the use of addictive drugs.  I wrote
my article based on that metaphor and it didn't fall apart.

The article: End Your
Addiction!

As always, if you want to comment on the article, please comment at my blog
rather than in the mailing list... it makes me feel good :)

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Re: [osdcmy] Congratulations on 20 years of Linux

[Garfield WTF]

I am wondering is there any country's post office got release 1st day cover
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[osdcmy] Congratulations on 20 years of Linux

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Congratulations, to all the FOSS members on 20 years of Linux..Long
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Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia

[Garfield WTF]

If possible, it is better if the price is below RM300.
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Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

ok i am trying to guess what you are trying to do

   1. vine toolkit is not really a framework ! it's a library to give you
   nice grids : http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/ - think of it like
   jquery ui
   2. flex is a framework : http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/
   3. look at demo using liferay as the portal framework :
   http://vinetoolkit.org/content/vine-and-liferay
   4. liferay has a lot more documentation, so use it to create your
   portlet, then only put the vine toolkit layer on top of it.
   5. if you are using the flex ide, consider using eclipse or netbeans or
   intellij or something 

i dont use liferay, nor do i use flex. this is the first time i am looking
at vine.

spend time learning and using web application frameworks like liferay,
grails, adempiere, then if anything goes wrong, blame it on the
framework !

would be really cool if you could write about how to use the api in
adempiere. maybe you can create a blogging website or forum using adempiere.





On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel  wrote:

> Anyone can help her on this?
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani
>  wrote:
> > Assalamualaikum and hi everyone
> >
> >
> >
> > Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use
> an
> > API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API?
> > http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html)
> >
> > I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself
> > getting into this very deep confusion and tense.
> >
> > I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit
> is
> > the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching
> > directories and files without really knowing what am I doing.
> >
> > Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the
> > question. I'm divorcing Google.
> >
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Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia

[Soire Meira]

ya btul.. penjelasan pl..

2011/4/8 Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim 

> Salam
>
> Harga bg sebulan atau setahun .. Max. Bandwidth bagaimana? IP berapa
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>
> dah senyap pulak hehe.. kami ada server dedicated kalau kawan2 nak guna
> boleh.
> fix price ~ RM450
> Dell service tag : 4pjg52s
>
> kalau ada fund boleh la setup untuk mirror yang telah dibincangkan :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Muhamad Hisyam Bin Nasir <
> hisyamna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sungguh menarik topic yang dibincangkan, saya bersedia untuk membantu
>> komuniti tuk jayakan project Mirror.
>>
>> saya cadangkan kita pakai colo dari company @Yusof Khalid, sekarang pon
>> saya tengah guna colo dari dia.
>> mintak @Yusof Khalid dapat adjust the best price tuk colo nanti hehe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:14 AM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>>
>>> +100
>>>
>>> TIME Fibre Broadband.
>>>
>>> On 28 March 2011 11:08, Hafiz Bhari  wrote:
>>>
 Kita langgan unifi dan buat mirror dirumah masing-masing. Amacam?


 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
 linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Criteria depends on each of the  mirror that you want to mirror.
>
> For example from Ubuntu Mirror
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
>
> Internet Bandwidth around 100MBS or 1GBS.
>
> and disk space
>
> 382GB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive.
>
> 39GB for Ubuntu release CD images.
>
> Last setup for OSCC MAMPU I had set it up using sedot for mirror
> management.
>
> https://launchpad.net/sedot
>
> 2) The Benefit
>
> - We return back to OSS community by off load mirror servers around
> the world. Malaysia mirrors will be used request from Malaysia.
>
> - Faster request (suppose to) because the mirror should be in Malaysia
> Internet network. Tak perlu lalu kabel dasar laut Jepun atau Hong Kong
> yang selalu putus. :)
>
> - For popularity. Name of the mirror will be place at Mirror website
> of each of Distros that we mirror.
>
> - Good for our telekom company. The traffic for mirror locally in
> Malaysia, rather than across the ocean. Cheaper fee for the cabel.
> Telekom should give discount to our mirror providers.
>
> - Hasanuddin has a good point.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM,   wrote:
> > Yes brother, agree with you.
> > What is the criteria to become a mirror.
> > And another thing is, what is the benefit if we become a mirror.
> >
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[zayn]

maaf...x ksampaian hajat nk jumpa kali ini..InsyaALLAH dilain
masa...smoga segalanya berjalan lancar...



On 04/08/2011 08:28 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
> Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera,
>
> Terima kasih untuk rakan-rakan yang akan ke program ini.
>
> 2011/4/2 Harisfazillah Jamel :
>   
>> Mohon jasa baik rakan-rakan yang akan ke Pahang untuk juga membawa
>> bahan-bahan daripada komuniti yang lain. Biasanya kami daripada core
>> OSDC akan melakunya, tapi kali ini kami semua perlu ada pada OpenSuse,
>> Debian dan Gnome 3 release party.
>>
>> Kami ada pengumuman penting untuk MOSC2011. :)
>>
>> Harap rakan-rakan daripada komuniti yang lain dapat berkongsi
>> bahan-bahan CD atau pelbagai. Saya akan cuba kenal pasti siapa yang
>> akan terima bahan-bahan tersebut.
>>
>>
>> 2011/4/2 Basyeer Linux :
>> 
>>> terima kasih untuk penjelasan
>>> minta maaf kerana sebelum ini agak samar-samar akan OSDC dan juga berkaitan
>>> event di Pahang ini
>>> namun sekarang saya dah faham
>>> kami dari komuniti akan sediakan branding seperti yang disarankan
>>> dalam masa yang sama, akan turut menjaga nama baik OSS
>>>
>>> maaf juga banyak bertanya atau baru ingin memberi reaksi untuk hal-hal
>>> begini
>>> tapi dari saya malu dan silap, lebih baik saya bertanya
>>> insyaallah, akan beri sumbangan kepada OSS dan juga komuniti.
>>>
>>> Pada 2 April 2011 9:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
>>> menulis:
>>>   
 Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera,

 Untuk makluman semua. OSDC hanyalah orang tengah atau jalan penghubung
 untuk komuniti OSS dengan pelbagai pihak. Komuniti OSS perlu bawa diri
 masing-masing, promote diri masing-masing, kita ini pelbagai tapi kita
 bersatu dalam menjalankan aktiviti, promosi OSS, menyampaikan kehendak
 komuniti, kumpulan tekanan dan pelbagai lagi yang memerlukan kita ini
 satu suara.

 Jadi untuk aktiviti di Pahang dan lain-lain aktiviti dengan pelbagai
 pihak, bawalah branding masing-masing. Sama ada anda semua syarikat
 yang berteraskan OSS, sebuah komuniti OSS, koperasi atau pelbagai
 silalah bawa branding masing-masing.

 Yang penting kita jaga nama baik OSS komuniti dan pihak yang menjadi
 tuan rumah kita.

 dan always dan setiap masa, kami OSDC tetap ada untuk memberikan
 sebarang sokongan yang kami mampu.

 Sekian, terima kasih.

 Tanpa komuniti tiadalah OSS.

 2011/4/2 Basyeer Linux :
 
> besar juga tu
> jadi kami yang dari komuniti tunggu pemberitahuan sama ada dibenarkan
> promote distro masing2 atau join OSDC
> mane2 pun keputusan yang dibuat, rasanya saya masih akan pergi.
>
>   
>> 
>
>
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Re: [osdcmy] Diaspora (Currently in Alpha)

[Sufian Ahmad]

syafiq 
invited please check ur mail 
creativeneur...@gmail.com 

tq 

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To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, April 8, 2011 8:32:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Diaspora (Currently in Alpha) 

Salam bos! 

Saya mau satu! sebelum ni ada buh emel tp maybe dah abes invite.. Pls let me 1! 
Peace! 


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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Sir Beyta < sir.be...@gmail.com > wrote: 


saye ade 10 lagi~ sape2 nak ??? percuma jerk~ ehehee 





On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM, zayn < zayn...@gmail.com > wrote: 



zayn...@gmail.com 





On 04/07/2011 10:51 AM, Sufian Ahmad wrote: 


aku ade 10 
nak invite sape2 lagi ke..kasi emel 



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Re: [osdcmy] Re: 1 Malaysia Training(Kursus Percuma)

[Soire Meira]

wah aku pon xtau ada kt mlaka nih.. kt mna tuh.. nk jgk.. ada ajar backtrack
ek.. best3.. :P

Pada 8 April 2011 11:15 AM, Basyeer Linux  menulis:

> yup, ia bergantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan
> itu yang rugi, dekat taiping tak jauh dari umah saya, tidak disediakan
> kursus open source..
> setakat ini cume dia melaka..
> itu yang saya nak bold kan event ini, saya dah apply untuk sertai tapi
> en tersebut menunggu 10 baru akan dilakukan kursus tersebut
>
> di situ juga saya quote dari thread tersebut
>
> "Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> kami mampu.
>
> kalau ada special request customize modul yg kami tak mampu ajar.
> contohnya nak belajar backtrack.
> pakar2 backtrack boleh gunakan kemudahan lab secara percuma.
> kami sediakan hardware + fotostat nota + file + pen + bukak tutup lab
> + print sijil.
> tuan sebagai lecturer kat depan kelas. pensyarah jemputan + cari
> peserta.
> tapi makan minum sendiri. tak disediakan. bajet makan tak dapat.
> pm sy utk bincang lebih lanjut
>
>
>
> update utk adtec melaka.
> comfirm date
> 11-12/4 - kumpulan nurse hsptl alor gajah - excell
>
> under progress
> 23-24/4 - kumpulan guru JAIM - softskil - group 1 -linuxdesktop
> (sabily-cikgu tadika agama)
> - group 2 -openoffice/libreoffice atau internet dan blog
> ? - selected guru JAIM yg ada bakat teknikal - kemahiran repair dan
> maintence pc dan networking
> - tarikh akan ditentukan kemudian.
>
> ? April - kumpulan pelajar ADTEC Melaka- php , video editor , linux
> desktop , CISCO swicthing.
>
> ? April - Kumpulan makcik2 cleaner ADTEC Melaka - softskill -
> kemahiran internet.
>
> PENDAFTARAN DALAM KUMPULAN AMATLAH DIALUKAN. MUDAH UNTUK TENTUKAN
> TARIKH PROGRAM."
>
>
>
> dia boldkan bahawa pendaftaran dalam kumpulan is better, saya sanggup
> juga pergi dibawah nama OSDC sekiranya terdapat ahli yang ingin
> belajar..
>
> and untuk jujur, saya berkeinginan juga untuk mohon apa2 'kerja
> kosong' yang di iklankan di sini, cume qualification die memerlukan
> ilmu tertentu
>
> saya lack on this kerana saya cume ada basic knowledge it dan melalui
> kursus seperti ini saya dapat gain ilmu2 tersebut
>
> harap hal ini dapat dipertimbangkan
>
>
> On Apr 8, 7:35 am, Harisfazillah Jamel 
> wrote:
> > Maklumat 1Malaysia Training
> >
> > http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/en/home/66/455-1-malaysia-tra...
> >
> > http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/bm/component/content/article/455
> >
> > Saya percaya ia begantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan dan
> > permintaan. Setakat ini saya baca hanya di ADTEC Alor Gajah.
> >
> > 2011/4/8 sallehy :
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Wah..menarik...boleh belajar Calc...dan..
> > > "
> > > Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> > > ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> > > modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> > > contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> > > kami mampu."
> >
> > > tapi kenapa di Melaka? atau ada juga di sekitar KL?
> > > 2011/4/8 Basyeer Linux 
> >
> > >> Ok, this is an advertisement from our government
> > >> what i want to bold is there are agencies that ready to teach open
> > >> source
> >
> > >> there is a thread from JomLinux forum
> >
> > >>http://forum.jomlinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1284
> >
> > >> Kursus Percuma : Latihan 1 Malaysia : OPENSOURCE
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Re: [osdcmy] Diaspora (Currently in Alpha)

[Sufian Ahmad]

dany...@gmail.com 

invited..please check ur mail 

TQ 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2011 3:20:05 AM 
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If you got any left I would really appreciate if you could send one . 


dany...@gmail.com 


Best regards, 
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Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia

[Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim]

Salam

Harga bg sebulan atau setahun .. Max. Bandwidth bagaimana? IP berapa banyak? 
Storage minimum? 


Regards,
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:12:16 
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Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia

dah senyap pulak hehe.. kami ada server dedicated kalau kawan2 nak guna
boleh.
fix price ~ RM450
Dell service tag : 4pjg52s

kalau ada fund boleh la setup untuk mirror yang telah dibincangkan :)

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Muhamad Hisyam Bin Nasir <
hisyamna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sungguh menarik topic yang dibincangkan, saya bersedia untuk membantu
> komuniti tuk jayakan project Mirror.
>
> saya cadangkan kita pakai colo dari company @Yusof Khalid, sekarang pon
> saya tengah guna colo dari dia.
> mintak @Yusof Khalid dapat adjust the best price tuk colo nanti hehe
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:14 AM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>
>> +100
>>
>> TIME Fibre Broadband.
>>
>> On 28 March 2011 11:08, Hafiz Bhari  wrote:
>>
>>> Kita langgan unifi dan buat mirror dirumah masing-masing. Amacam?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
>>> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Criteria depends on each of the  mirror that you want to mirror.

 For example from Ubuntu Mirror

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors

 Internet Bandwidth around 100MBS or 1GBS.

 and disk space

 382GB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive.

 39GB for Ubuntu release CD images.

 Last setup for OSCC MAMPU I had set it up using sedot for mirror
 management.

 https://launchpad.net/sedot

 2) The Benefit

 - We return back to OSS community by off load mirror servers around
 the world. Malaysia mirrors will be used request from Malaysia.

 - Faster request (suppose to) because the mirror should be in Malaysia
 Internet network. Tak perlu lalu kabel dasar laut Jepun atau Hong Kong
 yang selalu putus. :)

 - For popularity. Name of the mirror will be place at Mirror website
 of each of Distros that we mirror.

 - Good for our telekom company. The traffic for mirror locally in
 Malaysia, rather than across the ocean. Cheaper fee for the cabel.
 Telekom should give discount to our mirror providers.

 - Hasanuddin has a good point.

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 > Yes brother, agree with you.
 > What is the criteria to become a mirror.
 > And another thing is, what is the benefit if we become a mirror.
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[osdcmy] Re: 1 Malaysia Training(Kursus Percuma)

[Basyeer Linux]

yup, ia bergantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan
itu yang rugi, dekat taiping tak jauh dari umah saya, tidak disediakan
kursus open source..
setakat ini cume dia melaka..
itu yang saya nak bold kan event ini, saya dah apply untuk sertai tapi
en tersebut menunggu 10 baru akan dilakukan kursus tersebut

di situ juga saya quote dari thread tersebut

"Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
modul. JUGA PERCUMA
contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
kami mampu.

kalau ada special request customize modul yg kami tak mampu ajar.
contohnya nak belajar backtrack.
pakar2 backtrack boleh gunakan kemudahan lab secara percuma.
kami sediakan hardware + fotostat nota + file + pen + bukak tutup lab
+ print sijil.
tuan sebagai lecturer kat depan kelas. pensyarah jemputan + cari
peserta.
tapi makan minum sendiri. tak disediakan. bajet makan tak dapat.
pm sy utk bincang lebih lanjut



update utk adtec melaka.
comfirm date
11-12/4 - kumpulan nurse hsptl alor gajah - excell

under progress
23-24/4 - kumpulan guru JAIM - softskil - group 1 -linuxdesktop
(sabily-cikgu tadika agama)
- group 2 -openoffice/libreoffice atau internet dan blog
? - selected guru JAIM yg ada bakat teknikal - kemahiran repair dan
maintence pc dan networking
- tarikh akan ditentukan kemudian.

? April - kumpulan pelajar ADTEC Melaka- php , video editor , linux
desktop , CISCO swicthing.

? April - Kumpulan makcik2 cleaner ADTEC Melaka - softskill -
kemahiran internet.

PENDAFTARAN DALAM KUMPULAN AMATLAH DIALUKAN. MUDAH UNTUK TENTUKAN
TARIKH PROGRAM."



dia boldkan bahawa pendaftaran dalam kumpulan is better, saya sanggup
juga pergi dibawah nama OSDC sekiranya terdapat ahli yang ingin
belajar..

and untuk jujur, saya berkeinginan juga untuk mohon apa2 'kerja
kosong' yang di iklankan di sini, cume qualification die memerlukan
ilmu tertentu

saya lack on this kerana saya cume ada basic knowledge it dan melalui
kursus seperti ini saya dapat gain ilmu2 tersebut

harap hal ini dapat dipertimbangkan


On Apr 8, 7:35 am, Harisfazillah Jamel 
wrote:
> Maklumat 1Malaysia Training
>
> http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/en/home/66/455-1-malaysia-tra...
>
> http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/bm/component/content/article/455
>
> Saya percaya ia begantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan dan
> permintaan. Setakat ini saya baca hanya di ADTEC Alor Gajah.
>
> 2011/4/8 sallehy :
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wah..menarik...boleh belajar Calc...dan..
> > "
> > Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> > ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> > modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> > contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> > kami mampu."
>
> > tapi kenapa di Melaka? atau ada juga di sekitar KL?
> > 2011/4/8 Basyeer Linux 
>
> >> Ok, this is an advertisement from our government
> >> what i want to bold is there are agencies that ready to teach open
> >> source
>
> >> there is a thread from JomLinux forum
>
> >>http://forum.jomlinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1284
>
> >> Kursus Percuma : Latihan 1 Malaysia : OPENSOURCE

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Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia

[Yusof Khalid - FreeBSD / OpenBSD]

dah senyap pulak hehe.. kami ada server dedicated kalau kawan2 nak guna
boleh.
fix price ~ RM450
Dell service tag : 4pjg52s

kalau ada fund boleh la setup untuk mirror yang telah dibincangkan :)

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Muhamad Hisyam Bin Nasir <
hisyamna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sungguh menarik topic yang dibincangkan, saya bersedia untuk membantu
> komuniti tuk jayakan project Mirror.
>
> saya cadangkan kita pakai colo dari company @Yusof Khalid, sekarang pon
> saya tengah guna colo dari dia.
> mintak @Yusof Khalid dapat adjust the best price tuk colo nanti hehe
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:14 AM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>
>> +100
>>
>> TIME Fibre Broadband.
>>
>> On 28 March 2011 11:08, Hafiz Bhari  wrote:
>>
>>> Kita langgan unifi dan buat mirror dirumah masing-masing. Amacam?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
>>> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Criteria depends on each of the  mirror that you want to mirror.

 For example from Ubuntu Mirror

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors

 Internet Bandwidth around 100MBS or 1GBS.

 and disk space

 382GB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive.

 39GB for Ubuntu release CD images.

 Last setup for OSCC MAMPU I had set it up using sedot for mirror
 management.

 https://launchpad.net/sedot

 2) The Benefit

 - We return back to OSS community by off load mirror servers around
 the world. Malaysia mirrors will be used request from Malaysia.

 - Faster request (suppose to) because the mirror should be in Malaysia
 Internet network. Tak perlu lalu kabel dasar laut Jepun atau Hong Kong
 yang selalu putus. :)

 - For popularity. Name of the mirror will be place at Mirror website
 of each of Distros that we mirror.

 - Good for our telekom company. The traffic for mirror locally in
 Malaysia, rather than across the ocean. Cheaper fee for the cabel.
 Telekom should give discount to our mirror providers.

 - Hasanuddin has a good point.

 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM,   wrote:
 > Yes brother, agree with you.
 > What is the criteria to become a mirror.
 > And another thing is, what is the benefit if we become a mirror.
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[Najah]

Yup agreed. Kindly note that we are not giving up anything to anyone as per
my previous reply.
anyway, thanks for the advice Rafe. :-)

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:15 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> Najah,
>
> This is where you're wrong. last year n d year b4 d events was ours we
> owned it the contents and the format and the name of the conference MDeC
> owned it. Where as of last year right after the conference we have given
> that right and ownership to osdc.my which is own by the community which
> again translated owned by every one of you. Haris najah n d rest that is in
> the main committee you're the trustee of osdc.my hence why I say don't bow
> down to the sponsor as you are the rightful owner of the conference or
> event. Even if the main sponsor give $$ doesn't mean the conference belong
> to them as you have to  remember they are leveraging on the conference and
> on so many thing don't be so naive and give them everything that they want
> and if u do that the rest of the sponsor will question your motive and
> objective. Let them work by your rules or not at all..
>
> rafe
>
> On Apr 7, 2011 5:00 PM, "Najah"  wrote:
>
> Hi rafe,
>
> we are not depending on the sponsor. i repeat NOT DEPENDING on the sponsor.
> a proper discussion need to take place especially for major decision as
> this. kindly refer to the previous topic on the pros and cons. Remember what
> we did last year? Meeting and discussion for almost everyday :). And we had
> to report everything to you, as our main sponsor. This time will be a bit
> different la off course. Main sponsor will not involve in everything..
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Najah,
>> >
>> > Ok this is weird!! Why are you depending on the sponsor "yes" or "no"
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[osdcmy] Promotion Banners For MOSC2011

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Hi,

We need contribution for MOSC2011 banners for promotion of MOSC2011.
Any design its can be email to secretar...@mosc.my

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Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Another suggestion,  we can them is to publish HOWTO or documentation.
For example this HOWTO is produce by intern attach to my team.

http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-managing-news-on-ubuntu

Its help him to learn OSS and gain experience. And its a motivation
for him to contribute more to Howtoforge when its get publish and
broadcast all over Internet in Linux.com Debian how to.

Tersenyum dia... :)

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> hi,
>
> "Cracked the LPI exam.."  <-- this just hi-lights the sad case with
> Malaysia. We seem to have a very bad attitude to learning, its not to
> acquire knowledge, its just so that we can pass the exam, as said here
>
>> ". so we can pass it easily.. YES!"
>
> What about hard work and experience, naah,... "terlalu susah"
>
> And when they get a job, they will screw things up. With
> attitudes/aptitude like this, will M'sia ever get to produce Nobel
> Prize winners? I doubt it.
>
> On the other hand, if there is a hands on course or apprentice-ship
> program, shirkers like this would easily be exposed, they are the ones
> that do the least and less willing to help and share. That's why I
> have little faith in exams & certification.
>
> On the other hand, these guys may only be joking and they are already
> gurus in what they do... but it is in bad taste in a discussion on
> this thread talking about attitudes towards gaining skills. So they
> deserve the lambasting.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Soire Meira  wrote:
>> wow.. i like it.. look like so easy to 'crack' this LPI.. so we can pass it
>> easily.. YES!
>>
>> 2011/4/4 Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar 
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> P/S: I heard some people said they had 'cracked' the LPI exam program to
>>> make them pass it. Rumor only. No proof was shown to me though.
>>>
>>> But there are also those who had "kaw tim" with certain examination lab to
>>> "buka buku" during exam. Even googled it.
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2011 09:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:

 We JV with universities to do OSS certification as add on to their
 universities program.

 Industry will get what they want, certified graduates and experience with
 OSS.

 and GOV get their numbers. :)
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [KOSTEM] Seeking For Volunteers

[Muhammad Syafiq]

@Garfield, me got 1 what? Perhap if anyone could sponsor good one. Remember
what we done last MOSC? Hahaha.. Nasib baik ada bawak..  ;)


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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Garfield WTF  wrote:

> I'm not sure whether the camera chaining things can be done or not, coz we
> might will not be using expensive equipment.
> But well, we can  try to find a way to do so by doing research together.
> :)
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Re: [osdcmy] Diaspora (Currently in Alpha)

[Muhammad Syafiq]

Salam bos!

Saya mau satu! sebelum ni ada buh emel tp maybe dah abes invite.. Pls let me
1! Peace!


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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Sir Beyta  wrote:

> saye ade 10 lagi~ sape2 nak ??? percuma jerk~ ehehee
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM, zayn  wrote:
>
>>  zayn...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/07/2011 10:51 AM, Sufian Ahmad wrote:
>>
>> aku ade 10
>> nak invite sape2 lagi ke..kasi emel
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera,

Terima kasih untuk rakan-rakan yang akan ke program ini.

2011/4/2 Harisfazillah Jamel :
> Mohon jasa baik rakan-rakan yang akan ke Pahang untuk juga membawa
> bahan-bahan daripada komuniti yang lain. Biasanya kami daripada core
> OSDC akan melakunya, tapi kali ini kami semua perlu ada pada OpenSuse,
> Debian dan Gnome 3 release party.
>
> Kami ada pengumuman penting untuk MOSC2011. :)
>
> Harap rakan-rakan daripada komuniti yang lain dapat berkongsi
> bahan-bahan CD atau pelbagai. Saya akan cuba kenal pasti siapa yang
> akan terima bahan-bahan tersebut.
>
>
> 2011/4/2 Basyeer Linux :
>> terima kasih untuk penjelasan
>> minta maaf kerana sebelum ini agak samar-samar akan OSDC dan juga berkaitan
>> event di Pahang ini
>> namun sekarang saya dah faham
>> kami dari komuniti akan sediakan branding seperti yang disarankan
>> dalam masa yang sama, akan turut menjaga nama baik OSS
>>
>> maaf juga banyak bertanya atau baru ingin memberi reaksi untuk hal-hal
>> begini
>> tapi dari saya malu dan silap, lebih baik saya bertanya
>> insyaallah, akan beri sumbangan kepada OSS dan juga komuniti.
>>
>> Pada 2 April 2011 9:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
>> menulis:
>>>
>>> Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera,
>>>
>>> Untuk makluman semua. OSDC hanyalah orang tengah atau jalan penghubung
>>> untuk komuniti OSS dengan pelbagai pihak. Komuniti OSS perlu bawa diri
>>> masing-masing, promote diri masing-masing, kita ini pelbagai tapi kita
>>> bersatu dalam menjalankan aktiviti, promosi OSS, menyampaikan kehendak
>>> komuniti, kumpulan tekanan dan pelbagai lagi yang memerlukan kita ini
>>> satu suara.
>>>
>>> Jadi untuk aktiviti di Pahang dan lain-lain aktiviti dengan pelbagai
>>> pihak, bawalah branding masing-masing. Sama ada anda semua syarikat
>>> yang berteraskan OSS, sebuah komuniti OSS, koperasi atau pelbagai
>>> silalah bawa branding masing-masing.
>>>
>>> Yang penting kita jaga nama baik OSS komuniti dan pihak yang menjadi
>>> tuan rumah kita.
>>>
>>> dan always dan setiap masa, kami OSDC tetap ada untuk memberikan
>>> sebarang sokongan yang kami mampu.
>>>
>>> Sekian, terima kasih.
>>>
>>> Tanpa komuniti tiadalah OSS.
>>>
>>> 2011/4/2 Basyeer Linux :
>>> > besar juga tu
>>> > jadi kami yang dari komuniti tunggu pemberitahuan sama ada dibenarkan
>>> > promote distro masing2 atau join OSDC
>>> > mane2 pun keputusan yang dibuat, rasanya saya masih akan pergi.
>>> >
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Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Anyone can help her on this?

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani
 wrote:
> Assalamualaikum and hi everyone
>
>
>
> Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use an
> API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API?
> http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html)
>
> I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself
> getting into this very deep confusion and tense.
>
> I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit is
> the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching
> directories and files without really knowing what am I doing.
>
> Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the
> question. I'm divorcing Google.
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Re: [osdcmy] 1 Malaysia Training(Kursus Percuma)

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Maklumat 1Malaysia Training

http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/en/home/66/455-1-malaysia-training

http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/bm/component/content/article/455

Saya percaya ia begantung kepada kemampuan setiap pusat latihan dan
permintaan. Setakat ini saya baca hanya di ADTEC Alor Gajah.

2011/4/8 sallehy :
> Wah..menarik...boleh belajar Calc...dan..
> "
> Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> kami mampu."
>
> tapi kenapa di Melaka? atau ada juga di sekitar KL?
> 2011/4/8 Basyeer Linux 
>>
>> Ok, this is an advertisement from our government
>> what i want to bold is there are agencies that ready to teach open
>> source
>>
>> there is a thread from JomLinux forum
>>
>> http://forum.jomlinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1284
>>
>> Kursus Percuma : Latihan 1 Malaysia : OPENSOURCE
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Re: [osdcmy] 1 Malaysia Training(Kursus Percuma)

[sallehy]

Wah..menarik...boleh belajar Calc...dan..
"
Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
modul. JUGA PERCUMA
contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
kami mampu."

tapi kenapa di Melaka? atau ada juga di sekitar KL?

2011/4/8 Basyeer Linux 

>
> Ok, this is an advertisement from our government
> what i want to bold is there are agencies that ready to teach open
> source
>
> there is a thread from JomLinux forum
>
> http://forum.jomlinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1284
>
> Kursus Percuma : Latihan 1 Malaysia : OPENSOURCE
>
> Postby jengka3 » 29 Mar 2011, 15:22
> ADTEC Melaka ada menawarkan kursus ICT percuma berasaskan opensource.
> KURSUS ADALAH PERCUMA sehingga DECEMBER 2011 atau peruntukan habis.
> REBUTLAH PELUANG UNTUK BELAJAR ATAU MENDALAMI OPENSOURCE SOFTWARE.
>
> Syarat Rakyat Malaysia / Umur 18 Tahun.
> Juga Menerima Kumpulan dari Syarikat.
> Contohnya Jomlinux nak hantar group 10 orang utk belajar Asas Linux
> Desktop.
> Kursus yang telah diluluskan adalah seperti berikut:
>
> K1008 INTRODUCTION TO LINUX DESKTOP 16 JAM (2 HARI) SABTU DAN AHAD
> 8.00 am - 5.00 pm 10 peserta/modul
> 1. Define the Linux desktop environment
> 2. Use the file manager
> 3. Configure Linux desktop
> 4. Use Linux Dekstop application for home and office
>
> K1009 OPENOFFICE.ORG WRITER 16 JAM (2 HARI) SABTU DAN AHAD 8.00 am -
> 5.00 pm 10 peserta/modul
> 1. Create / edit a new document
> 2. Text / page formatting
> 3. Working with tables
> 4. Insert graphics
> 5. Saving/printing documents
> 6. Import Word documents
> 7. Saving in word format
>
> K1010 OPENOFFICE.ORG CALC 16 JAM (2 HARI) SABTU DAN AHAD 8.00 am -
> 5.00 pm 10 peserta/modul
> 1. Create a new spreadsheet
> 2. Format Text and Numbers
> 3. Manage Rows and Columns
> 4. Formulas and calculations
> 5. Page Layout, Headers and Footers
> 6. Saving/ printing spreadsheets
> 7. Generating analysis charts
> 8. Import Excel spreadsheets
> 9. Saving in Excel format
>
> Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
> ( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
> modul. JUGA PERCUMA
> contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
> kami mampu.
>
> DAFTAR > cukup 10 orang > boleh mula kelas
> TEMPAT TERHAD sehingga December 2011 atau sehingga peruntukan habis.
> Peserta dari Melaka dan berhampiran amatlah dialu-alukan.
>
> Hubungi saya : jeng...@yahoo.com atau sof...@adtecmlk.gov.my 065527227
> ext 7256
>
>
> ---
> IKLAN ASAL PROGRAM LATIHAN 1 MALAYSIA DI KEMENTERIAN SUMBER MANUSIA -
> ILJTM
>
> http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/en/home/66/455-1-malaysia-training
>
> this is a chance for new user like me to take on course but it need
> minimum 10 people
> im very dont have member that support OSS and ready to learning it
> i hope we can promote this since it is OSS
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[osdcmy] 1 Malaysia Training(Kursus Percuma)

[Basyeer Linux]

Ok, this is an advertisement from our government
what i want to bold is there are agencies that ready to teach open
source

there is a thread from JomLinux forum

http://forum.jomlinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1284

Kursus Percuma : Latihan 1 Malaysia : OPENSOURCE

Postby jengka3 » 29 Mar 2011, 15:22
ADTEC Melaka ada menawarkan kursus ICT percuma berasaskan opensource.
KURSUS ADALAH PERCUMA sehingga DECEMBER 2011 atau peruntukan habis.
REBUTLAH PELUANG UNTUK BELAJAR ATAU MENDALAMI OPENSOURCE SOFTWARE.

Syarat Rakyat Malaysia / Umur 18 Tahun.
Juga Menerima Kumpulan dari Syarikat.
Contohnya Jomlinux nak hantar group 10 orang utk belajar Asas Linux
Desktop.
Kursus yang telah diluluskan adalah seperti berikut:

K1008 INTRODUCTION TO LINUX DESKTOP 16 JAM (2 HARI) SABTU DAN AHAD
8.00 am - 5.00 pm 10 peserta/modul
1. Define the Linux desktop environment
2. Use the file manager
3. Configure Linux desktop
4. Use Linux Dekstop application for home and office

K1009 OPENOFFICE.ORG WRITER 16 JAM (2 HARI) SABTU DAN AHAD 8.00 am -
5.00 pm 10 peserta/modul
1. Create / edit a new document
2. Text / page formatting
3. Working with tables
4. Insert graphics
5. Saving/printing documents
6. Import Word documents
7. Saving in word format

K1010 OPENOFFICE.ORG CALC 16 JAM (2 HARI) SABTU DAN AHAD 8.00 am -
5.00 pm 10 peserta/modul
1. Create a new spreadsheet
2. Format Text and Numbers
3. Manage Rows and Columns
4. Formulas and calculations
5. Page Layout, Headers and Footers
6. Saving/ printing spreadsheets
7. Generating analysis charts
8. Import Excel spreadsheets
9. Saving in Excel format

Kami juga menerima kursus khas diatas permintaan pelanggan
( Customized Course) selain diatas dengan syarat cukup 10 peserta/
modul. JUGA PERCUMA
contoh : Joomla, php, web design, Configure Server linux dan lain2 yg
kami mampu.

DAFTAR > cukup 10 orang > boleh mula kelas
TEMPAT TERHAD sehingga December 2011 atau sehingga peruntukan habis.
Peserta dari Melaka dan berhampiran amatlah dialu-alukan.

Hubungi saya : jeng...@yahoo.com atau sof...@adtecmlk.gov.my 065527227
ext 7256

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http://www.mohr.gov.my/jtmv10/index.php/en/home/66/455-1-malaysia-training

this is a chance for new user like me to take on course but it need
minimum 10 people
im very dont have member that support OSS and ready to learning it
i hope we can promote this since it is OSS

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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Basyeer Linux]

even if this install fest cant be done, i think is okay
because such event really need support of community since based on previous
history, maybe this way its not really working
or face a lot of problem
i hope we can still target on some event that are more public in coming days
or back to the small quote, Keep Trying

i


2011/4/8 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte 

> Maybe I have grown a older than I thought. More cynical.
>
> Do remember to have fun always,
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Basyeer Linux wrote:
>
>> yes, i agree. we need internet access, uncle google also really help when
>> facing a problem
>>
>> i did face a problem during an event at USIM
>> we from Komuniti Sabily did an small install fest during our last day on
>> there
>> we had event on saturday and sunday, around 5 and 6 mac ago
>> during 6 mac, i install Sabily on one if the students there
>> same problem that occur, the laptop is using broadcom driver, so need to
>> activate it(but actually can activate it by using sabily cd)
>>
>> then vlc cannot play cd
>> still need to ask google since i didnt experience on how to solve it
>>
>> just to emphasize, yup internet are really important
>>
>> about the install fest, yes.. perhaps because didnt face the 'real life'
>> in oss make me want to try this..
>> even you all had 'saat pahit manis', maybe the important, is keep trying..
>> i agree on this..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/4/8 Garfield WTF 
>>
>>>
>>> For me, I think the install fest will be best if do alongside with TM.
>>> Coz if TM is there, then there will be internet access.
>>> But I doubt TM will let us tumpang their roadshow...
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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Maybe I have grown a older than I thought. More cynical.

Do remember to have fun always,

Eric


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Basyeer Linux wrote:

> yes, i agree. we need internet access, uncle google also really help when
> facing a problem
>
> i did face a problem during an event at USIM
> we from Komuniti Sabily did an small install fest during our last day on
> there
> we had event on saturday and sunday, around 5 and 6 mac ago
> during 6 mac, i install Sabily on one if the students there
> same problem that occur, the laptop is using broadcom driver, so need to
> activate it(but actually can activate it by using sabily cd)
>
> then vlc cannot play cd
> still need to ask google since i didnt experience on how to solve it
>
> just to emphasize, yup internet are really important
>
> about the install fest, yes.. perhaps because didnt face the 'real life' in
> oss make me want to try this..
> even you all had 'saat pahit manis', maybe the important, is keep trying..
> i agree on this..
>
>
>
>
> 2011/4/8 Garfield WTF 
>
>>
>> For me, I think the install fest will be best if do alongside with TM.
>> Coz if TM is there, then there will be internet access.
>> But I doubt TM will let us tumpang their roadshow...
>>
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[Garfield WTF]

To be honest, i really miss frag fest...
hahahaha

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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Basyeer Linux]

yes, i agree. we need internet access, uncle google also really help when
facing a problem

i did face a problem during an event at USIM
we from Komuniti Sabily did an small install fest during our last day on
there
we had event on saturday and sunday, around 5 and 6 mac ago
during 6 mac, i install Sabily on one if the students there
same problem that occur, the laptop is using broadcom driver, so need to
activate it(but actually can activate it by using sabily cd)

then vlc cannot play cd
still need to ask google since i didnt experience on how to solve it

just to emphasize, yup internet are really important

about the install fest, yes.. perhaps because didnt face the 'real life' in
oss make me want to try this..
even you all had 'saat pahit manis', maybe the important, is keep trying.. i
agree on this..



2011/4/8 Garfield WTF 

>
> For me, I think the install fest will be best if do alongside with TM.
> Coz if TM is there, then there will be internet access.
> But I doubt TM will let us tumpang their roadshow...
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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Let them indeed. I just don't want another embittered group. Better to be
cruel than to show only the best things.

What distro to use? Sabilly? Ubuntu? Fedora? openSUSE? All do you want all?

Anyone in OSDCMY keen on install fest? Wariola? red1? Kagesenshi? Ejat?

Eric

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Lets them try. We had done it and we share our saat pahit :). They
> need to come up with better plan for this.
>
> Reality suck but lets be open on this learning is a process of trying
> and doing. From your point we can propose solutions but reality still
> suck, it may not work. But we cannot stop trying. Trying is what we
> want from them.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
> > Just do it if you want to. I am not being cruel, but I am honest.
> Sometimes
> > the line can be fuzzy between the two.
> >
> > Have you seen any one just happy to use Linux as installed? Installing in
> a
> > VM? If you do VM there will be no issues except for multimedia stuff.
> Have
> > you considered the fact that people want to get codecs, tutorials etc.
> Yes
> > you can also use SUSE Studio for creating an ISO, VM image or use an
> offline
> > repo to reduce the headache. After that how? Updates? Adding/Removing
> > software. You think they will work to read the documentation? Let us be
> > honest shall we?
> >
> > Seeing that the word KOSTEM has been thrown around, the target audience
> will
> > be mostly Malay. That is OK. But most Malays chaps I know love Celcom 3G
> so
> > much - considered making that Celcom 3G dongle work with distros? Since
> > OSDCMY is a Debian/Ubuntu majority association - made it work yet with
> > Celcom 3G dongles, especially those with the Qualcomm chipsets?
> >
> > I am not pouring cold water on your efforts, but you must know what to
> > expect. If you have the time. patience and resources, why not?
> >
> > You will not find many who wants to do it.
> >
> > Eric
> >
>
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[Garfield WTF]

For me, I think the install fest will be best if do alongside with TM.
Coz if TM is there, then there will be internet access.
But I doubt TM will let us tumpang their roadshow...

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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [KOSTEM] Seeking For Volunteers

[Garfield WTF]

I'm not sure whether the camera chaining things can be done or not, coz we
might will not be using expensive equipment.
But well, we can  try to find a way to do so by doing research together.
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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Eric,

Lets them try. We had done it and we share our saat pahit :). They
need to come up with better plan for this.

Reality suck but lets be open on this learning is a process of trying
and doing. From your point we can propose solutions but reality still
suck, it may not work. But we cannot stop trying. Trying is what we
want from them.


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Just do it if you want to. I am not being cruel, but I am honest. Sometimes
> the line can be fuzzy between the two.
>
> Have you seen any one just happy to use Linux as installed? Installing in a
> VM? If you do VM there will be no issues except for multimedia stuff. Have
> you considered the fact that people want to get codecs, tutorials etc. Yes
> you can also use SUSE Studio for creating an ISO, VM image or use an offline
> repo to reduce the headache. After that how? Updates? Adding/Removing
> software. You think they will work to read the documentation? Let us be
> honest shall we?
>
> Seeing that the word KOSTEM has been thrown around, the target audience will
> be mostly Malay. That is OK. But most Malays chaps I know love Celcom 3G so
> much - considered making that Celcom 3G dongle work with distros? Since
> OSDCMY is a Debian/Ubuntu majority association - made it work yet with
> Celcom 3G dongles, especially those with the Qualcomm chipsets?
>
> I am not pouring cold water on your efforts, but you must know what to
> expect. If you have the time. patience and resources, why not?
>
> You will not find many who wants to do it.
>
> Eric
>

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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Just do it if you want to. I am not being cruel, but I am honest. Sometimes
the line can be fuzzy between the two.

Have you seen any one just happy to use Linux as installed? Installing in a
VM? If you do VM there will be no issues except for multimedia stuff. Have
you considered the fact that people want to get codecs, tutorials etc. Yes
you can also use SUSE Studio for creating an ISO, VM image or use an offline
repo to reduce the headache. After that how? Updates? Adding/Removing
software. You think they will work to read the documentation? Let us be
honest shall we?

Seeing that the word KOSTEM has been thrown around, the target audience will
be mostly Malay. That is OK. But most Malays chaps I know love Celcom 3G so
much - considered making that Celcom 3G dongle work with distros? Since
OSDCMY is a Debian/Ubuntu majority association - made it work yet with
Celcom 3G dongles, especially those with the Qualcomm chipsets?

I am not pouring cold water on your efforts, but you must know what to
expect. If you have the time. patience and resources, why not?

You will not find many who wants to do it.

Eric

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Basyeer Linux wrote:

> im really glad that my mindset towards hackerspacekl is wrong
> sorry if im being to direct
> but that is what myself feel,
> its ok then, i will come to next event if threre are been created
>
>
> about the infest fest, the idea of having it during MOSC is a good idea
> it should be opened to public
> maybe im not being realistic since event towards introducing OSS had been
> done and i do think it is unsuccessfully achieve is target.. right? based on
> your all words
>
>
> so what can we do know towards this?
> having an event at hackerspace?
> or preparing for it during the MOSC?
>
>
> 2011/4/6 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>
>> I do agree with Eric notation.
>>
>> I don't really mean that installfiest will be disaster, but *how do you
>> know that the person who installed will use the OS*? I've done some
>> number of awareness project from university to school, fron city to middle
>> of no where, but how far do the program really influence them moving toward
>> OSS?
>>
>> I't not want to be self minded, negative thinking person, but like Eric
>> said, again, 'Many Malaysian students are lazy by default'. Not all, but
>> majority. They don't want to listen to their same age friend or person who
>> do not have success story person like me, the key is how we need to change
>> our friends mindsets?
>>
>> The only thing I can see is involve installfiest session in event such as
>> MOSC and let them come and see how we unite. That's the key thing.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
>> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There are many issues when it comes to an install fest.
>>>
>>> Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone
>>> ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or
>>> not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit
>>> the people?
>>>
>>> You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus
>>> neglecting the others who came.
>>>
>>> Serioulsy it may be "inspiring" to view a film you torrented from the
>>> Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students
>>> are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show
>>> them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and
>>> tryhere...you fill in the blanks.
>>>
>>> And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get
>>> things up and running? Maybe focus on students from Pantai Timur or
>>> Sabah/Sarawak. Those guys are really hunger for knowledge. Bigger towns'
>>> students tend to be very satisfied with the pirated Windows they proudly
>>> use!
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Basyeer Linux 
>>> wrote:
>>> > ~intall fest~
>>> > this concept is really amazing at those early stage
>>> > people come and bring their pc and show their prob which maybe similar
>>> > with others prob
>>> >
>>> > can i see/having/doing this concept in Malaysia?
>>> > ...to see how strong and important a community can be
>>> >
>>> > Revolution OS really open my mind
>>> >
>>> > this is my first post to this mailing list..
>>> > i didnt manage to expect outcome of this topic..
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [KOSTEM] Seeking For Volunteers

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

ahaks  what ? asking the stupid questions ? hahaha NOT !

by the way, i have a valid excuse, i have a health problem : sakit jantung.

asking stupid questions is not good for the health.

just a thought, for this streaming can we do 'chaining' (dont know what the
right term is), ie jumping from one camera to another camera after every 5
minutes ? possibly will jump to a camera on a candid basis ???

will probably grab some of the audience attention to find their group on
video, like a mexican wave ?

wrt to ticket sales, i dont think streaming will affect it much. might even
boost it, since attendees will get a chance to appear on a global broadcast.

looking at football matches, getting your face in the camera is 'happening',
just ask the guy who sits behind the corner post waiting for a corner kick.




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> @Raja,
> If thats the case, we need you too!
> We also need 1 interviewer with this kind of skill, if possible!
> Muahahaha!!!
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[Garfield WTF]

By the way guys, I do agree that we only broadcast some of the talks.
Coz if we broadcast all talks, the ticket purchase will rate will be drop a
lot also.
Most of the time, when not broadcasting the talks, we stream the whole
event's halls, exhibition hall, food hall, community booths, sponsor's
booths etc...
And I think, broadcasting the opening and closing ceremony is a must.
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[Solitude Solitaire]

Najib can help?
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From: garfi...@debmal.my
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:35:29 +0800
Subject: [osdcmy] Seeking For Volunteers
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This has been discussed in the other mailing list.
I have proposed to do love video streaming during the MOSC2011.
Now, I need to seek for volunteers to join the streaming team.
Although I do not know will the streaming plan will be executed or not, but it 
is best to assemble a team and do further discussion and planning first.


I will also do a simple training to the volunteers on how to operate a video 
streaming, which it is extremely simple.

If you are interested, please reply here and let me know, I will try to contact 
you for further information.


For those who do not agree to do the video streaming because of some personal 
reasons, please do not sabotage this thread as this video streaming plan is a 
community plan, thank you.
And also, I would hope that this thread will be remain clean without any 
chitchat on unrelated matters.



Requirement On The Video Streaming Volunteers:
There is only a few very simple requirements only, which includes the stuffs 
you need if you are coming for the streaming training/meeting.
Anyone without any video streaming experience will probably also able to meet 
the below requirements.


Know how to hold the mouse and point and click in web browser. (I assume all of 
you know how to do this!)Have own laptop with Linux/MacOS desktop installed. (I 
assume majority of you already have that.)

Have Mozilla Firefox 3.6+/4 Installed.Have Adobe Flash 10.2 installed. (Must be 
v10.2, not v10.)Laptop must have a webcam, or even better, a USB webcam. 
Preferably 1megapixel above.Laptop have build-in microphone, or external 
microphone to attack to the jack. (Optional)


If you a MacOS user, please have Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 installed. (Linux 
users no need to install this.)Able to stay in the MOSC2011 event venue for 
long period of time. (Because we need to have at least 1 or 2 person to manage 
the streaming.)


Well, these requirements, I assume majority of you able to fulfill, as these 
are the things you probably using them daily.
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Besides the video streaming volunteers, there has been discussed about doing 
interview with the speakers for the streaming.
Therefore, we might need volunteers who have talent to perform an interview 
with the speakers during MOSC2011.



Requirement On Volunteers To Do Interview:
Able to speak fluent English. (Because we will going to have a lot of speakers 
from oversea.)Able to handle awkward situation during the interview. (Because 
there might be some situation where the speaker don't understand what are you 
talking about due to the difference of culture.)

Having ability to come out with questions which is not prepared on the list. 
(Sometimes, some questions are not appropriate to ask, so you have to replace 
them with some other questions. Or maybe if there is something you think it is 
interesting during the interview, and think that it is best for the audience to 
know, then you shall be able to ask some unlisted questions.)

No camera shy. (The ability to not feel awkward when the camera is pointing at 
you. Just threat it as a normal conversation, you are not on the CNN 
camera.)Ability to not asking stupid questions which might provoke the 
speakers. (Yeah, the speakers are VIPs, don't piss them off. By becoming the 
interviewer, you are actually represent the Malaysia OSS communities. Don't 
make them have bad impressions on us.)


We might not doing the interview live, and just record and do a delay broadcast.
But we will need a lot people to volunteer to take this task, as we will need 
to select the few best interviewer to handle this task.


Anyone are welcome to volunteer for this task, and those who having journalism 
experience will be an advantage to our OSS communities.
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Please fill up the form at below link if you interested to join the video 
streaming team or wanted to become an interviewer.

http://is.gd/CfyD8Z

Please also help to spread this.




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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [KOSTEM] Seeking For Volunteers

[Garfield WTF]

@Raja,
If thats the case, we need you too!
We also need 1 interviewer with this kind of skill, if possible!
Muahahaha!!!


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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[rafe azsnal]

Najah,

This is where you're wrong. last year n d year b4 d events was ours we owned
it the contents and the format and the name of the conference MDeC owned it.
Where as of last year right after the conference we have given that right
and ownership to osdc.my which is own by the community which again
translated owned by every one of you. Haris najah n d rest that is in the
main committee you're the trustee of osdc.my hence why I say don't bow down
to the sponsor as you are the rightful owner of the conference or event.
Even if the main sponsor give $$ doesn't mean the conference belong to them
as you have to  remember they are leveraging on the conference and on so
many thing don't be so naive and give them everything that they want and if
u do that the rest of the sponsor will question your motive and objective.
Let them work by your rules or not at all..

rafe

On Apr 7, 2011 5:00 PM, "Najah"  wrote:

Hi rafe,

we are not depending on the sponsor. i repeat NOT DEPENDING on the sponsor.
a proper discussion need to take place especially for major decision as
this. kindly refer to the previous topic on the pros and cons. Remember what
we did last year? Meeting and discussion for almost everyday :). And we had
to report everything to you, as our main sponsor. This time will be a bit
different la off course. Main sponsor will not involve in everything..

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> >
> > Najah,
> >
> > Ok this is weird!! Why are you depending on the sponsor "yes" or "no"
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Re: [osdcmy] Diaspora (Currently in Alpha)

[dany74q]

If you got any left I would really appreciate if you could send one .

dany...@gmail.com

Best regards,
Danny shem .

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Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept

[Basyeer Linux]

im really glad that my mindset towards hackerspacekl is wrong
sorry if im being to direct
but that is what myself feel,
its ok then, i will come to next event if threre are been created


about the infest fest, the idea of having it during MOSC is a good idea
it should be opened to public
maybe im not being realistic since event towards introducing OSS had been
done and i do think it is unsuccessfully achieve is target.. right? based on
your all words


so what can we do know towards this?
having an event at hackerspace?
or preparing for it during the MOSC?

2011/4/6 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

> I do agree with Eric notation.
>
> I don't really mean that installfiest will be disaster, but *how do you
> know that the person who installed will use the OS*? I've done some number
> of awareness project from university to school, fron city to middle of no
> where, but how far do the program really influence them moving toward OSS?
>
> I't not want to be self minded, negative thinking person, but like Eric
> said, again, 'Many Malaysian students are lazy by default'. Not all, but
> majority. They don't want to listen to their same age friend or person who
> do not have success story person like me, the key is how we need to change
> our friends mindsets?
>
> The only thing I can see is involve installfiest session in event such as
> MOSC and let them come and see how we unite. That's the key thing.
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There are many issues when it comes to an install fest.
>>
>> Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone
>> ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or
>> not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit
>> the people?
>>
>> You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus
>> neglecting the others who came.
>>
>> Serioulsy it may be "inspiring" to view a film you torrented from the
>> Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students
>> are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show
>> them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and
>> tryhere...you fill in the blanks.
>>
>> And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get
>> things up and running? Maybe focus on students from Pantai Timur or
>> Sabah/Sarawak. Those guys are really hunger for knowledge. Bigger towns'
>> students tend to be very satisfied with the pirated Windows they proudly
>> use!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Basyeer Linux 
>> wrote:
>> > ~intall fest~
>> > this concept is really amazing at those early stage
>> > people come and bring their pc and show their prob which maybe similar
>> > with others prob
>> >
>> > can i see/having/doing this concept in Malaysia?
>> > ...to see how strong and important a community can be
>> >
>> > Revolution OS really open my mind
>> >
>> > this is my first post to this mailing list..
>> > i didnt manage to expect outcome of this topic..
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff]

discussion, just part of that.. everybody have their own responsible in
their job. Hope we can understand each other.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Najah  wrote:

> cakap memang senang encik red1.
>
> by the way, still waiting for your contribution.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM, red1  wrote:
>
>> Agree with Rafe. Kick ass or not kick at all. :)
>>
>>
>> On 4/7/11 4:35 PM, rafe azsnal wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Haris, like or not this is not the way of doing the right thing. Garfield
>>> has a good idea to bring forward we spend almost 20k just for recording
>>> before and he can minimize the cost to almost 90% I belived you and your
>>> team should should take advantage of it regardless of what the sponsor want
>>> or not. You are the organizer and the contents owner act like one.
>>>
>>> rafe
>>>
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[Najah]

cakap memang senang encik red1.

by the way, still waiting for your contribution.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM, red1  wrote:

> Agree with Rafe. Kick ass or not kick at all. :)
>
>
> On 4/7/11 4:35 PM, rafe azsnal wrote:
>
>>
>> Haris, like or not this is not the way of doing the right thing. Garfield
>> has a good idea to bring forward we spend almost 20k just for recording
>> before and he can minimize the cost to almost 90% I belived you and your
>> team should should take advantage of it regardless of what the sponsor want
>> or not. You are the organizer and the contents owner act like one.
>>
>> rafe
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[Najah]

Hi rafe,

we are not depending on the sponsor. i repeat NOT DEPENDING on the sponsor.
a proper discussion need to take place especially for major decision as
this. kindly refer to the previous topic on the pros and cons. Remember what
we did last year? Meeting and discussion for almost everyday :). And we had
to report everything to you, as our main sponsor. This time will be a bit
different la off course. Main sponsor will not involve in everything..

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> Najah,
>
> Ok this is weird!! Why are you depending on the sponsor "yes" or "no"
> decision? I thought you (community) are the organizer where the ultimate
> decision is yours to make. If the sponsor make the decision and you guys are
> working on it as what has been told ni dah macam keja baruah... remember
> sponsor are leveraging on you as the events can bring them free marketing
> and awareness to the public. You put in the term & conditions they have to
> play by your rules not you play on their rules. Ok? But again is your
> choice.
>
> rafe
>
> On Apr 7, 2011 12:56 PM, "Najah"  wrote:
>
> I vote for the streaming team.
>
> The content of the streaming will be discussed with the main sponsor. kalau
> sponsor tak agree to stream the talk, then we will shoot general operations
> view, interviews with speakers, VIP, participants, sponsors, makan2, etc :)
>
> +1 garfield
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Garfield WTF  wrote:
>
>> >
>> > This has been discussed in the other mailing list.
>> > I have proposed to do love video streaming ...
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[red1]

Agree with Rafe. Kick ass or not kick at all. :)

On 4/7/11 4:35 PM, rafe azsnal wrote:


Haris, like or not this is not the way of doing the right thing. 
Garfield has a good idea to bring forward we spend almost 20k just for 
recording before and he can minimize the cost to almost 90% I belived 
you and your team should should take advantage of it regardless of 
what the sponsor want or not. You are the organizer and the contents 
owner act like one.


rafe




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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Ok roger. You always our Guru in this type of things. We will proceed
with Multimedia team.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:35 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
> Haris, like or not this is not the way of doing the right thing. Garfield
> has a good idea to bring forward we spend almost 20k just for recording
> before and he can minimize the cost to almost 90% I belived you and your
> team should should take advantage of it regardless of what the sponsor want
> or not. You are the organizer and the contents owner act like one.
>
> rafe
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[rafe azsnal]

Haris, like or not this is not the way of doing the right thing. Garfield
has a good idea to bring forward we spend almost 20k just for recording
before and he can minimize the cost to almost 90% I belived you and your
team should should take advantage of it regardless of what the sponsor want
or not. You are the organizer and the contents owner act like one.

rafe

On Apr 7, 2011 4:20 PM, "Harisfazillah Jamel" 
wrote:

Thanks for the advice bro... I know they know what to do. They been
trained by the best. :)


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
> Najah,
>
> Ok this is weird...

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Re: [osdcmy] Diaspora (Currently in Alpha)

[riZer Enterprise]

sir beyta pls let me try one thank you

azhar

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2011/4/7, Sir Beyta :
> saye ade 10 lagi~ sape2 nak ??? percuma jerk~ ehehee
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM, zayn  wrote:
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>> On 04/07/2011 10:51 AM, Sufian Ahmad wrote:
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>> aku ade 10
>> nak invite sape2 lagi ke..kasi emel
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Thanks for the advice bro... I know they know what to do. They been
trained by the best. :)

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
> Najah,
>
> Ok this is weird!! Why are you depending on the sponsor "yes" or "no"
> decision? I thought you (community) are the organizer where the ultimate
> decision is yours to make. If the sponsor make the decision and you guys are
> working on it as what has been told ni dah macam keja baruah... remember
> sponsor are leveraging on you as the events can bring them free marketing
> and awareness to the public. You put in the term & conditions they have to
> play by your rules not you play on their rules. Ok? But again is your
> choice.
>
> rafe
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[osdcmy] content creation

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

rafe,

the kostem guys are wondering, would an online magazine be considered as
creative multimedia content ?

if so, are there any benefits / funds / money / facilities that are
accessible for this ?

if we have some funding i was thinking of creating an engine for a
multimedia interactive magazine like :

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/02/the-wired-ipad-app-a-video-demonstration/
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/05/mag_editors_letter/
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wired-magazine/id373903654?mt=8


instead of using flash, we could use html5 and ajax.

the idea is to make website more attractive and immersive through a magazine
style layout.

i think it will also make a great tool for publishing corporate reports,
etc. instead of just pdf reports, viewers can access interactive videos,
mash-up the numbers, visualise numbers using interactive charts, 

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Re: [osdcmy] Re: [MOSC2011] Seeking For Volunteers

[rafe azsnal]

Najah,

Ok this is weird!! Why are you depending on the sponsor "yes" or "no"
decision? I thought you (community) are the organizer where the ultimate
decision is yours to make. If the sponsor make the decision and you guys are
working on it as what has been told ni dah macam keja baruah... remember
sponsor are leveraging on you as the events can bring them free marketing
and awareness to the public. You put in the term & conditions they have to
play by your rules not you play on their rules. Ok? But again is your
choice.

rafe

On Apr 7, 2011 12:56 PM, "Najah"  wrote:

I vote for the streaming team.

The content of the streaming will be discussed with the main sponsor. kalau
sponsor tak agree to stream the talk, then we will shoot general operations
view, interviews with speakers, VIP, participants, sponsors, makan2, etc :)

+1 garfield

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> >
> > This has been discussed in the other mailing list.
> > I have proposed to do love video streaming ...
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