Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Well done Poland.  I will be in Europe next summer and perhaps it will coincide 
with the event.  At any rate, you have my support and I’m happy to speak with 
you in person if the experience of a former OSonOS host can help.

Chris


On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Lisa Heft -  wrote:

> So beautifully said, dear Gerard. 
> 
> Since we can communicate with each other to have someone else embody our 
> invitation even if we cannot attend a WOSonOS, to me that is both inclusion 
> and opportunity. 
> There is much outreach and support for this both that you can see dear OSLIST 
> and that you cannot see - person to person individually, both via email and 
> before-at-around-in the event.
> 
> Since a potential host team has to feel ready, with support and a community 
> of Open Space practice in their region, the time makes itself known as 
> capacities and energies emerge, and as those things shift, as well.
> 
> Since a ‘home team' can represent / be represented to invite several years in 
> a row if there are more than one offers at a certain WOSonOS / if another 
> country team is chosen - can offer each year / any year / when feeling ready 
> - to the in-person group sitting together at a WOSonOS - there is always 
> support of the realities of shifting energies, capacities and resources.
> 
> Since the group’s decision is based on feeling, seeing, asking about and 
> sensing invitation, offerings, energy, capacity and community, to me it is 
> not useful to say what someone said another year if they did not bring 
> another request to the WOSonOS to keep that energy and invitation alive - 
> something we do without too much difficulty as in those years when someone 
> invites again. I have done so several times in a row before my own country 
> was selected - and I trusted the group’s insight on when it became the right 
> time for my turn. It’s about sharing, after all.
> 
> So the passion and energy of what was born and grew and blossomed - the team, 
> the invitation, the sensing and listening into the answer - was evident at 
> the event. The passion and responsibility, as you say, Gerard.
> 
> To me, our job is to welcome, to support, to believe in what our colleagues 
> there felt and knew, and to ask how we may help in any way, as we share this 
> gathering back and forth and around the world.
> 
> There are always Learning Exchanges and Fabulous Facilitation Conferences and 
> anything you want to call an OSonOS - I have named just two. Ways any of us 
> can host a wonderful learning and community gathering such as this.
> There are always ways to decide to want to host this particular thing called 
> WOSonOS in future years. There are always ways for any of us to support these 
> actions, these invitations, these teams.
> 
> So nothing is limiting, everything is possible, and I offer my energies and 
> enthusiasm in support to say CONGRATULATIONS POLISH TEAM !!!
> 
> Lisa also known as Access Queen
> 
> 
> On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:04 AM, openspacedk1 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Dear Thomas,
>> 
>> Could not agree more.
>> 
>> I believe our tradition to trust the community present by the end of any 
>> WOSONOS to decide, is a good and prescious one. And in line with the notion 
>> passion and responsability
>> 
>> I thank our Polish collegues for their invitation, and look forward to a 
>> great WOSONOS 2015 in the beautiful city of Krakow.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gerard
>> 
>> Open Space Institute Denmark
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

An Anishinaabe Elder from Fort William, Ontario, one time told me “Don’t say 
'all my relations’ - they are all YOURS!  You have to get your ego out of it.  
The proper term is ‘I belong to everything.’”

I notice that when I can access the truth of that thought, I feel deep 
belonging.  And when I can’t, I feel deep loneliness.

Chris

On Oct 1, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Romy Shovelton via OSList 
 wrote:

> Chris
> 
> Thanks SO much for both these words….and the sense that they bring
> 
> I live in Wales and am learning Welsh… and did not know this word.
> 
> I have also worked with an Earth Wisdom from the Mayan and First Nations 
> lineage… where “all my relations” is something we say and remind ourselves of 
> each time we move in and out of the circle that is the Medicine Wheel. The 
> same essence is indeed in our moving in and out of the Open Space circle.
> 
> in appreciation
> 
> Romy
> 
> 
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> 
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> On 1 Oct 2014, at 22:23, via OSList  wrote:
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>>   3. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 (Anne Stadler via OSList)
>>   4. Re: A Virtual OST Success Story (Ashley Cooper via OSList)
>>   5. Re: Lonely (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList)
>>   6. Re: Lonely (Allie Middleton via OSList)
>>   7. Second Life (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList)
>>   8. Re: Second Life (Eiwor via OSList)
>>   9. Lunch time (Eleder_BuM via OSList)
>>  10. Re: Second Life (Harold Shinsato via OSList)
>> 
>> From: Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely
>> Date: 1 October 2014 00:29:08 BST
>> To: John Watkins , World wide Open Space Technology email 
>> list 
>> Reply-To: Chris Corrigan , World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list 
>> 
>> 
>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin 
>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of 
>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple belonging". 
>> That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different homes and many 
>> different places where we feel connected in the world in English there's no 
>> word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging but I do like the 
>> idea that such a sentiment need to name. 
>> 
>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of 
>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is 
>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an 
>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty well 
>>> defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
>>> 
>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
>>> And did you get what
>>> you wanted from this life, even so?
>>> I did.
>>> And what did you want?
>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself
>>> beloved on the earth.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Annamarie,
>>>> 
>>>> T

Re: [OSList] The OST Invite: seeking creative solutions with less than 4 weeks

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Echoing these two bright minds. And to say that it is so context dependant. If 
everyone knows that this is a key piece of work they will show up on a moments 
notice. 

And yes purpose. Articulate that. And mores I articulate the need that makes 
this imperative right now. And have one on one phone conversations with the 
people that HAVE to be there and tell them to invite others. 

And don't worry about heresy. Our founder is a priest. He'll forgive you later!

:)

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> On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Lisa Heft - via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan, I’d say for any kind of facilitated event, Open Space or otherwise - 
> when someone asks for an event with a very short lead-up - it’s very healthy 
> to ask why, why now, what’s the crisis, what is served by taking important 
> time for thorough invitation and thoughtful pre-work, is your zooming in to 
> make a quick-turnaround thing happen supporting wellness or crisis response, 
> if it is a crisis, doesn’t it deserve better (all kinds of things including 
> thought, invitation, resource assessment, whatever) - all those good 
> questions. The ‘how to get the message out’ part is perhaps the easiest - the 
> ‘why’ / ‘to what end’ / ‘does this serve’ is to me one of the essential 
> conversations of pre-work and thinking about doing an event …
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am asking for help. Will you help me figure out if the following is 
>> effective? 
>> 
>> 
>> Background:
>> 
>> I have a OST client who wants to get the OST Invite out there with just 27 
>> calendar days to go...on a Friday! There are not many (if any) ways for the 
>> Sponsor to send it sooner...
>> 
>> Ouch. I'm not fond of this idea. 
>> 
>> I explained that 6 weeks was best and 4 was really pushing it, at the start 
>> of the conversation about doing the OST event. 
>> 
>> Today I offered these "creative" suggestions (ugly hacks?) to patch this 
>> less-than-30-days situation:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I also suggest that we get the handbills out there, in the public areas, and 
>> put this link on it:
>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/
>> 
>> I suggest we also send out a pre-Invitation 'save the date' email with just 
>> a little info and a link, and get those handbills out there, these actions 
>> will get it out there into the ecosystem and allow us to make use of the 
>> full 4 weeks. 
>> 
>> these ideas, and any other ideas you have for talking it up and getting 
>> it out there are probably good ideas now. Before we act let's chat tomorrow 
>> about this OK?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am asking for help. 
>> 
>> Do these 2 non-standard ideas work OK in your view? 
>> 
>> Or am I making a mockery of the OST process by doing this? Are these "ugly 
>> hacks?"
>> 
>> Is this OST heresy, or a good-enough idea? 
>> 
>> I welcome your replies! 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Daniel
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

John. These are brilliant reflections. They equate a great deal with my 
experience. 

Yes the world is self organizing. And yes humans seem to put barriers up to 
prevent that from happening. These barriers can be enforced with coercion, 
influence, false scarcity and force and all the other ways that power works. 

Being in Open Space often leads to defensiveness among those who enforce these 
barriers. And that can have the effect of creating more challenges. That is 
simply the way of it.

Underneath it all is self organization doing its work. But our own unexamined 
intentions and emotions often led us to wield the power we have to attempt to 
limit the work of that foundational form of organizing. Futile in the end to be 
sure, but not without a great deal of collateral damage in the interim. 

Chris. 

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> On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:56 PM, John Baxter via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness of space.  These 
> knots are about to inspire a rant.
> 
> These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the result of this present 
> discussion thread - it is just this discussion that prompts me to speak.
> 
> I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that self-organisation is more 
> common than we realise... if not ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at least that 
> we can fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and top-down 
> organisation dominates how things get done.
> 
> But I can't get past the feeling that there are lots of barriers to the 
> openness of space, and to self organisation.  Everywhere and all the time.  
> In my recent work, mental barriers by all involved about authority and role 
> relationships.  My personal barriers around trying too hard to "empower".  My 
> client's patronising assumptions about the "capacity" and "maturity" of "the 
> sector".  Information asymmetries.
> 
> So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well space is open all 
> the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos there's nothing you need to do').
> 
> I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of empowerment, as if 
> everybody else needs to just step into open space and take responsibility.
> 
> Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have.  (In my last 
> project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the fact that they could directly 
> author the document that they were trying to influence.)
> 
> But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies in just helping 
> people to see how powerful they are... because many people don't have the 
> power that we or they might like.  To suggest that people have the power and 
> just don't use it... that effectively blames them for their situation, and 
> washes our hands of responsibility.
> 
> The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time again is authority 
> figures who believe others need to change, not themselves.  (Most commonly, 
> that their employees need to "be empowered", and that they need to manage a 
> culture change program to get there... or better yet, that HR needs to manage 
> the change program, while we are busy getting the real work done.)
> 
> I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be done to other 
> people (patronising), but I do firmly believe that we all first need to look 
> to ourselves and what we need to do to play our role making such a future 
> possible.  And, in fact, that this is all that we can ever do.
> 
> Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this by focusing on 
> respect first, as a productive way to enable empowerment.
> 
> Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have misunderstood them, and I 
> apologise if I have been critical.  But I also see a lot of things said that 
> make me uncomfortable, that knot me up.  Again, most of these things are from 
> my memory, not the present discussion.  While my memory might not be the 
> best, I'm sure it is based on something.
> 
> Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion
> 
> 
> John Baxter
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>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Harrison Owen  wrote:
>> John -- I’m rather curious what you meant by “The overall project was more 
>> complicated than OST?” My confusion comes in part from my experience that 
>> complexity is actually an essential precondition for OST, or more exactly 
>> the effective operation of self organization. The essential pre-conditions 
>> as I hav

Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

And not only the hardest part but the most critical part. So much if the 
perceived success of a participatory event lies in the success of the 
invitation. A good invitation gives life to the first principle in a way that 
is beautiful and occasionally astonishing. 

Chris

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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 1:07 AM, John Baxter via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Amen to the time consuming nature of "invitations".
> 
> Of course, if you don't have a discrete list with an established relationship 
> to each member, the material nature of the activity isn't "invitation", but 
> marketing and promotion...  I haven't worked on a public event where the 
> promotion was not the hardest part.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> John Baxter
> ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy
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> 
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> I’d echo Christine’s observations about infrastructure. So much of that is 
>> something that you can take for granted in an organization and requires some 
>> thought when dealing with public settings. 
>> 
>> A couple other distinctions I’ve noticed:
>> 
>> Organizational events are high context. A calling question is asked within 
>> an existing culture. That’s both a blessing and a curse. It means that 
>> there’s much that doesn’t need explaining. And it means there are 
>> unconscious habits of relating and behaving present. Not bad. Just the 
>> territory. 
>> 
>> Examples: I was recently with a group that had an internal clock for half an 
>> hour meetings. It was interesting watching their rhythm shift over the 
>> course of the Open Space. For that same event, I spent about 10 minutes with 
>> the leadership team before we started encouraging them to be themselves and 
>> participate, like everyone else. They bring a unique and valuable 
>> perspective, as do others. And their voices carry a weight they might not 
>> appreciate because of their place in the hierarchy. So if they found 
>> themselves the center of attention, I suggested that it’s a good time to ask 
>> a question that gives the focus back to the group. Or use the law of two 
>> feet and go elsewhere.
>> 
>> Public events don’t have the context of an existing culture. So the calling 
>> question may have a much wider variation in meaning to people who come. And 
>> there may be fewer existing relationships and norms. Again, not bad. Just 
>> different. 
>> 
>> Many years ago I was part of a team that did a public event with a calling 
>> question so broad that people had multiple interpretations of it. The 
>> question: How do we support a movement toward the conscious evolution of 
>> increasingly conscious social systems? (See 
>> http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html). A number of people on this 
>> list were part of it.  People showed up because they were attracted to the 
>> hosts or something about the question spoke to them. It was wild, fun, and 
>> creative. And there was a demand on the second day to hear from the 
>> organizers what we meant by the question, just for more context.
>> 
>> The other thing I’ve learned is that the process of invitation can be much 
>> more intense for public events. In organizations, the bulk of participation 
>> is internal. While there are certainly issues with ensuring a spirit of 
>> invitation, who to invite and how to reach them is pretty straightforward.
>> 
>> For public events, I find that if you want a diversity of folks, inviting 
>> can be the most time consuming activity of all. I did some work with the 
>> Forest Service years ago to look at the future of the forests in the San 
>> Bernardino Mountains in California. They were heading into a rough fire 
>> season, felt they’d done everything they could do to prepare. While they had 
>> the public’s attention, they wanted to look to the future, 50 years out. We 
>> worked with them to identify the range of people who cared, including state, 
>> local, federal, and regional government, community organizations, chamber of 
>> commerce, insurance companies (small, but influential), ranchers who leased 
>> land in the national forests, environmental groups, and on and on. Getting 
>> the word out to all these folks took some thought.
>> 
>> Peggy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

And Micheals brilliant opening line from the giving conference  was "We put out 
an invitation and you all came anyway!"  And that is exactly due to the quality 
of living out and invitation as a verb and not a noun. 

Chris. 

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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> some years ago i facilitated the first illinois food security summit, a 
> public meeting of very diverse group of about 200, convened by a big 
> foundation.  at the end of the event, one of the common reflections heard 
> throughout the space was something like, "i can't believe we didn't know each 
> other already (given that we're all doing such similar work/have similar 
> interests)."  the following year, the two things i heard over and over again 
> were something like "i still have last year's proceedings sitting on the 
> corner of my desk" and "we're all still talking."  i think we have to be 
> careful not to impose internal standards for "action" on more distributed 
> public meeting/working.  having the proceedings (and its priorities and 
> plans) at their fingertips and having so many connections still active was 
> definite progress and was informing all kinds of activity.  there just wasn't 
> a "center" working to score that and own it like there would be inside of an 
> organization.  which makes me wonder if the work in public spaces is not so 
> much about building infrastructure, which people can easily build for 
> themselves and also already exists in many ways, but rather finding ways to 
> point out over and over again through the event that the work of participants 
> does not end with the closing.  
> 
> also, to the challenge of public invitations, we wrote 37 drafts of 6 
> different editions of the invitation to what we called "the giving 
> conference."  the big challenge was that there was very little language 
> shared among the several very different groups/communities of people we 
> wanted to invite.  in the end, people said, "the crazy thing is that i'm 
> here, because the invitation really didn't say ANYTHING, but when i read it, 
> i knew i had to be here."  
> 
> m
> 
>  
> 
>  
> --
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> 
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> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:07 AM, John Baxter via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Amen to the time consuming nature of "invitations".
>> 
>> Of course, if you don't have a discrete list with an established 
>> relationship to each member, the material nature of the activity isn't 
>> "invitation", but marketing and promotion...  I haven't worked on a public 
>> event where the promotion was not the hardest part.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> John Baxter
>> ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy
>> CoCreateADL.com​ | jsbaxter.com.au
>> 0405 447 829​ | ​@jsbaxter_
>> 
>> City Grill— An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever Seen!, Saturday 
>> 18 October 2014
>> Connect with your candidates, get your voice heard by joining with others in 
>> your community, and Influence the future of the city
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I’d echo Christine’s observations about infrastructure. So much of that is 
>>> something that you can take for granted in an organization and requires 
>>> some thought when dealing with public settings. 
>>> 
>>> A couple other distinctions I’ve noticed:
>>> 
>>> Organizational events are high context. A calling question is asked within 
>>> an existing culture. That’s both a blessing and a curse. It means that 
>>> there’s much that doesn’t need explaining. And it means there are 
>>> unconscious habits of relating and behaving present. Not bad. Just the 
>>> territory. 
>>> 
>>> Examples: I was recently with a group that had an internal clock for half 
>>> an hour meetings. It was interesting watching their rhythm shift over the 
>>> course of the Open Space. For that same event, I spent about 10 minutes 
>>> with the leadership team before we started encouraging them to be 
>>> themselves and participate, like everyone else. They bring a unique and 
>>> valuable perspective, as do others. And their voices carry a weight they 
>>> might not appreciate because of their place in the hierarchy. So if they 
>>> found themselves the center of attention, I suggested that it’s a good time 
>>> to ask a question that gives the focus back to the group. Or use the law of 
>>> two feet and go elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> Public events don’t have the context of an existing culture. So the calling 
>>> question may have a much wider variation in meaning to people who come. And 
>>> there may be fewer existing relationships and norms. Again, not bad. Just 
>>> different. 
>>> 
>>> Many years ago I w

Re: [OSList] Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

You will find the group pattern language project interesting...

http://groupworksdeck.org

Chris

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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, John Baxter via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in 
> pattern languages and Open Space?
> 
> I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in 
> pattern languages.  It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur 
> Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList.  So abracadabra, here 
> we are!
> 
> Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which 
> came close to the topic without being explicit.  I will explore this sometime 
> soon.
> 
> I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory 
> processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to 
> apply in other contexts.
> 
> If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: [OSList] Culture Technology Wants to Be Free

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Daniel…

“Open Space Technology” was created and released into the world long before the 
Creative Commons licenses were there to let everyone know that it is freely 
usable, shareable, with non-attribution.  People can remix it, sell it, create 
commercial products from it, rebrand it, create derivatives and remixes, steal 
it, liberate it, claim they invented it.  No one will sue them.  No one will 
enforce the “proper way of doing it.”  No one will charge them a license fee or 
serve them with a cease and desist order.

It may also be that other people have discovered Open Space as well, and that 
Harrison was not the only bright mind on the planet that saw how the Open Space 
of the Universe could be applied to meetings.

This is not a bug.  It is a feature.

Over the past 20 years of using Open Space Technology, the one thing it has 
taught me more than anything is a radical practice of generosity.

Nothing needs to be done about it.  The User’s Guide exists as a piece of work 
under copyright.  the process itself is for the world and from the world.  

Chris

On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
 wrote:

> Reference Link:
> http://newtechusa.net/agile/culture-technology-wants-to-be-free/
> 
> In researching Barcamp and Unconference formats, I discover that Barcamp and 
> Unconference came much later and are in fact direct derivatives of Open 
> Space, also known as "Open Space Technology", as in "Open Space Technology: A 
> Users Guide."
> 
> We cannot act in the past. This sometimes leads to feelings of regret in the 
> present moment. And so I wonder: what would the world look like if the bare 
> essentials of Open Space were published under an open-source license... way, 
> back, when?
> 
> What can be done about it today?
> 
> Because as Kári Gunnarsson points out, these four preconditions of the swarm 
> invitation from Swarmwise by Rick Falkvinge look very like either a direct 
> copy of Open Space, or a derivative work of the Open Space, specifically the 
> meeting Invitation.
> 
> The book does has an index; no mention of Open Space. No bibliography. 
> 
> A quick check of Swarmwise by Rick Falkvinge reveals that the work is printed 
> under a Closed-Source license. See for yourself:
> 
> ===
> http://falkvinge.net/files/2013/04/Swarmwise-2013-by-Rick-Falkvinge-v1.1-2013Sep01.pdf
> Formally, this book is under copyright monopoly until January 1, 2034 — twenty
> years from publication. During that time, it is licensed under a Creative 
> Commons
> Noncommercial-Attribution 3.0 license, meaning what is said above about free 
> sharing. These are the same terms as suggested in the author’s previous book, 
> The Case for Copyright Reform. Commercial exclusive rights rest with the 
> author for the twenty
> years.
> ===
> 
> According to Creative Commons, "This is not a Free Culture License". That is, 
> not open source.
> 
> See for yourself. Follow this link and click "no" to the question:
> "Allow commercial uses of your work?"
> 
> https://creativecommons.org/choose/
> 
> ...click through further to see what "This is not a Free Culture license" 
> actually means. It means this is NOT an open source license. 
> 
> There are some big announcements coming soon about people who are 
> deliberately publishing culture-technology designs (patterns, structures, 
> frameworks) under true open source licensing, either the GPL or CC-BY-SA-4.0. 
> And for very excellent reasons. 
> 
> This is the second time I have seen culture technology designs published 
> which co-opts items in the public domain, does not bring source documents 
> forward, and does not give attribution to sources. All of which must be done 
> when publishing under open source licensing.
> 
> Closed-source licensing for culture technology is a serious impediment to the 
> development of innovative culture technology at a time when more, not less 
> innovation is what we need. Culture technology wants to be free.
> 
> Reference Link:
> http://newtechusa.net/agile/culture-technology-wants-to-be-free/
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/17/14 2:34 PM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:
>> The four preconditions of the swarm invitation from Swarmwise by Rick 
>> Falkvinge. I find this oddly similar to the preconditions of Open Space.
>> 
>> 1. Tangible: You need to post an outline of the goals you intend to
>> meet, when, and how.
>> 
>> 2. Credible: After having presented your daring goal, you need to
>> present it as totally doable. Bonus points if nobody has done it
>> before.
>> 
>> 3. Inclusive: There must be room for participation by every spectator
>> who finds it interesting, and they need to realize this on hearing
>> about the project.
>> 
>> 4. Epic: Finally, you must set out to change the entire world for the
>> better — or at least make a major improvement for a lot of people.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Underlining this.  The Giving Conference, an open and public event in 2003 was 
transformational for the few dozen people who were there and launched scores of 
long term and sustained work that had a influence far beyond what we could have 
imagined.  It’s one of my best practice stories, and it was entirely a public 
thing.

Also, an initiative I was a part of in 2011 to address addictions related 
stigma in the health care system was both open to the public and supported by 
an organization (The Vancouver Coastal Health Authority).  The weight and 
institutional support made it possible, supported many follow up experiments 
and sustained results.  the reliance on a single institution for this work also 
eventually compromised the results when the organization was restructured and 
the directorate that had initiated the work ceased to exist.  

Chris

On Oct 17, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Michael Herman via OSList 
 wrote:

> it's not about minimum requirements for me, daniel.  many of the things on 
> your list show up in most of the meetings/events i've facilitated, but it's 
> all very situation specific.  
> 
> what i heard you saying earlier, and maybe i heard it wrong, was about 
> corporate/organization/private events that have org structure and process and 
> culture behind them, adding momentum and to longer, more resource-full 
> meetings/events.  AND i heard public events described as being shorter and 
> bringing fewer resources and less common cultural momentum.   
> 
> if i heard those characterizations accurately, i only wanted to say that they 
> can be teased apart.  generalizing on public vs. private is not going to be 
> as accurate as generalizing on the quality of the preparations, commitment, 
> energy... shall we say... complexity, diversity, urgency and passion.  yes, 
> organizations have some ways of whipping up these conditions, but they also 
> have ways of damping them down.  energy and resources in communities can be 
> more diffused, but also very focused and abundant.
> 
> i'm just saying that just cuz it's public, you can't assume than it's 
> shorter, lower quality and that the proceedings won't be out when promised.  
> that can happen in orgs, same as anywhere else.  and long, high quality, 
> on-time and ongoing work is very possible in open, emergent community events. 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
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> 
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I'm confused now, and so I believe I am about to learn something new here... 
> I'll know by your answers to these questions:
> 
> What are the minimum essentials of Open Space structure? For example, are the 
> following elements necessary at all?
> 
> Sponsor
> Theme
> Invitation in advance, referring to Theme
> Opening Circle
> Facilitator
> Explanation of the 1Law/ 5Principles
> Posters
> Closing Circle
> Timely Proceedings
> Sponsor commitment to follow though on Proceedings
> 
> If these are not essential to structure, why not? If so, why so?
> 
> Thanks for your help! Very Eager to hear your (hopefully detailed) answers!
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 10/17/14 1:27 PM, Michael Herman wrote:
>> No. I'm saying the setting, context, culture doesn't matter so much. The 
>> structure, setup and commitment matter. I'm saying don't assume that public 
>> gatherings aren't capable of having real impact. And of course 
>> corporate/organizational/private isn't any guarantee of impact and 
>> followthrough. 
>> 
>> On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick  wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> I hear you, saying: 
>> 
>> "I've seen very loose corporate add-on events" 
>> 
>> ..and then I also hear you saying:
>> 
>> I've seen...very productive and long-lived action (spanning years and 
>> continents) come from open public conferences. 
>> 
>> I do not hear you saying this:
>> 
>> "I've seen very loose corporate add-on events generate very productive and 
>> long-lived action spanning years" 
>> 
>> I wonder if you are saying this.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> On 10/17/14 10:15 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
>>> Not sure the differences you articulate have anything to do with public and 
>>> private, Daniel. It's about the different structures.  I've seen very 
>>> loose corporate add-on events and very productive and long-lived action 
>>> (spanning years and continents) come from open public conferences. So id 
>>> say structure matters much more than setting. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Greetings Christine, 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience 
>>> whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds, 
>>> industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless! 
>>> 
>>> As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use 
>>> cases. I do have some theories however, a

Re: [OSList] Open Space at Walt Disney Company

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I used Open Space with the Dalai Lama Centre here in Vancouver a number of 
years ago to run a meeting on connecting with community. Two Tibetans who were 
there saw me bring out my bells and ring them to start. One hollered out 
"h! This is going to be a good meeting!"

Chris

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> On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
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> I don’t know about Disney, but a friend who is writing a book with the Dali 
> Lama’s brother recently told me, “You'll be happy to know that I introduced 
> researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute in Dharamsala to Open Space.” I 
> don’t know where this takes us... but...
>  
> And it  did occur to me that the Disney folks might be interested in the 
> ACCOR Hotels experience. Pretty ancient history, but fun for all of that, and 
> ACCOR is one of the largest actors in the hospitality business. Details can 
> be found in “Tales From Open Space” in the chapter by Christopher Schoch. For 
> your very own copy click on http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf  Good tale!
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> Hi world. I have been contacted by Walt Disney company here in italy. 
> They are curious about open space and are thinking to use in one of the next 
> company gatherings in the next months. After some talks with me, They are in 
> the middle of their decision making process.  I'm wondering if some one in 
> our community has ever worked for them and would like to share what happened 
> with me. 
> Looking forward to hear from you
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Re: [OSList] rest of the world catching up with Open Space...

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I think the idea of a change platform is an excellent one.

I have been putting together my own approach to this kind of work recently.  
i’ve been thinking of it as a kind of operating system with different layers. 
It’s about examining how I work with pretty much anyone - the kind of 
theoretical basis for my work, my own strengths and preferences and 
assumptions.  On top of that are ways of seeing the world that I apply pretty 
consistently and on top of that, “apps” if you will that help work get done 
coherently.  

It has been a rewarding exercise to do this, and I can’t recommend it highly 
enough to others in this field.  At the very least it helps make it clear to 
others what you do and why and it has the added benefit of allowing you to see 
your own assumptions about the way the world works.

Having said that, yeah, this article seems very 1985.  I’m pretty sure that 
even in the hallowed belly of McKinsey, this thinking is pretty dated.  Being 
the self-appointed guardians of what is the gold standard of management 
consulting, it kind of bugs me when they publish stuff the rest of the world 
has known for years as if it’s the latest trend.  Having said that, it’s always 
nice to pull out their stuff when confronted with a particularly traditional 
organization that is stuck in its thinking about change and complexity and 
strategy.  

Chris

> On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/organization/build_a_change_platform_not_a_change_program
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Re: [OSList] rest of the world catching up with Open Space...

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Yes, as I’ve said it helps to be able to send recent McKinsey articles to 
people, as various McKinsey writers discover the parade.  

I’ve been promoting their "leading edge" realizations for nearly 20 years.  :-)

There is very little new under the sun.  There is lots I haven’t personally 
found yet, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t old news to others.  :-)

Chris

> On Nov 3, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I certainly understand how someone with your depth of experience and know-how 
> can be bugged by McKinsey, the self-appointed guardian of what is the gold 
> standard of management consulting suddenly declaring our interests, style 
> of thinking, and mode of work both valid and important.
> 
> That said, the article probably represents an important bellwether, and a 
> kind of signal event. It might be signaling that there is (or is very soon to 
> be) significant new demand for people with OST-related skills. In this sense 
> Gary Hamel is doing us all a big favor, by successfully finding the parade 
> and getting in front of it.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/3/14 3:52 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:
>> I think the idea of a change platform is an excellent one.
>> 
>> I have been putting together my own approach to this kind of work recently.  
>> i’ve been thinking of it as a kind of operating system with different 
>> layers. It’s about examining how I work with pretty much anyone - the kind 
>> of theoretical basis for my work, my own strengths and preferences and 
>> assumptions.  On top of that are ways of seeing the world that I apply 
>> pretty consistently and on top of that, “apps” if you will that help work 
>> get done coherently.  
>> 
>> It has been a rewarding exercise to do this, and I can’t recommend it highly 
>> enough to others in this field.  At the very least it helps make it clear to 
>> others what you do and why and it has the added benefit of allowing you to 
>> see your own assumptions about the way the world works.
>> 
>> Having said that, yeah, this article seems very 1985.  I’m pretty sure that 
>> even in the hallowed belly of McKinsey, this thinking is pretty dated.  
>> Being the self-appointed guardians of what is the gold standard of 
>> management consulting, it kind of bugs me when they publish stuff the rest 
>> of the world has known for years as if it’s the latest trend.  Having said 
>> that, it’s always nice to pull out their stuff when confronted with a 
>> particularly traditional organization that is stuck in its thinking about 
>> change and complexity and strategy.  
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/organization/build_a_change_platform_not_a_change_program
>>>  
>>> <http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/organization/build_a_change_platform_not_a_change_program>
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Re: [OSList] Open Space by the book?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I have opened space many many times without ever mentioning the four 
principles, the law or any other assorted wisdom associated with WHY the 
process works.

My basic practice is to explain HOW we will organize ourselves, pointing out 
the tools we have to do so: paper, markers, bulletin board.

I talk about passion and responsibility “Please only post a topic you will 
personally show up for…” and I mention the freedom of choosing and moving.  

That is all that people need to get into Open Space.  I’m not sure the 
principles or the law or anything else are necessary pre-conditions for the 
appearance and deployment of Open Space in a meeting.  I think they help 
explain what is happening, and I think they help people let go of control a 
little.  

All of us as facilitators would do well to remember that people are not coming 
to a meeting to be wowed by a process that you personally love.  They are 
coming to get work done.  And so it behooves us to put a lid on our passions 
for the mechanics of the process and simply open space so that work can get 
done.  Later on you can reflect on WHY it happened like that.

As for the idea that OST is mainstream, well perhaps not yet.  But within the 
world of people who think a lot about this sort of thing it is widely known.  I 
feel like these days people call and ask about OST having experienced it 
whereas in the 1990s and early 200s people were calling because it seemed like 
a good idea, but they had never experienced it.  So not mainstream per se, but 
widely accepted and known in a small part of the world.

At any rate it has been a long time since I have asked the question at the 
start of a meeting and seen zero hands go up.  There seems to be at least one 
person who knows Open Space.  

Whether we use the original instructions or modifications or innovations, 
whatever you do, do it very very well.  Be very conscious, model good 
leadership and never stop embodying invitation.  Lots of people have witnessed 
poorly planned Open Spaces run by facilitators who are too nervous to let go of 
their control of it.  We all owe it to our clients and participants to meet 
their needs well with a process that helps them get unlocked from the stuck 
places they get into.

Here’s my book again for you to download.  I hope it inspires your practice.

The Tao of Holding Space 

Chris 


> On Nov 14, 2014, at 11:09 PM, John Baxter via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice reflection Harrison.
> 
> You've unfortunately created too many loose ends to inspire a neat reply.  So 
> here is a messy one.
> 
> Regards the simplest recipe for Open Space, to what degree have the Law and N 
> Principles (and the animals) been critically tested?  To be honest, these 
> have never really resonated for me and I've always used a different variation 
> each time searching for something that feels right (and no longer than it 
> needs to be).
> 
> I think it's a long bow to describe Open Space as mainstream, or anywhere 
> near it.  It has spread to all corners of the globe perhaps, but it is still 
> the System A alternative, islands within a System B world.  I would hazard 
> 90% of those who have been to conferences and meetings and like gatherings 
> have not heard of it... (speaking at a conference on cocreation and 
> placemaking recently, I requested a hands-up and had a whole TWO of hundreds 
> confess to acquaintance)
> and even if 90% had, I'm sure less than 1% of the gatherings they attend are 
> consciously designed to unlock self organisation.
> 
> What you describe of the permutations of the practice matches what I see 
> (though I'm too new to know differently), but I can't see how this could be 
> because of a tipping point as the practice is mainstreamed.
> 
> Maybe that's just where I participate.
> 
> Regards the permutations and combinations... bring them on!  This thread 
> could quickly follow all sorts of rabbit holes on this one, so I might save 
> those thoughts for another day.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
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> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:37 AM, paul levy via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> The problem with sticking with things is you might just end up stuck.
> 
> Ho hum.
> 
> Paul Levy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 Nov 2014, at 18:14, Harrison Owen via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Open Space, in its “original” form is sparse simplicity to say the least. 
>> Ten to fifteen minutes introduction, and it is off the races, or in my case, 
>> off t

Re: [OSList] Open Space by the book?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Hi there…

Nothing wrong at all with the law and principles and nothing wrong at all with 
the user’s guide (which is one of the finest of it’s kind every produced…:-)  
).  But I do make the distinction between training events and strategic 
conversations.  The purpose of the former is to make the process as simple as 
possible to learn, and the purpose of the later is to make the process as 
simple as possible to use. And the truth is, I actually believe that the best 
training anyone can get for Open Space Technology is to experience a good one, 
grab the user’s guide and ngo and use it.  That is in fact how the vast 
majority of people facilitating Open Space have discovered and implemented the 
process.  

And, I think your analysis is spot on about adoption and the late majority 
folks, but I’m not sure they will join us here…this is a small community of 
practitioners and we tend to be pretty focused only on OST itself and how that 
spins out in all kinds of ways.  The new late majority folks have discovered 
the river beneath the river and are seeing what they need to do to work with 
participatory process in general.  They would be the ones Peggy and Steve are 
pointing too with the Nexus inquiry and what we are seeing the Art of Hosting 
community and in other places where folks are becoming agile designers of 
productive process for humans.  

I see our job here as continuing to tend the hearth of OST, but I’m under no 
illusions as to the need to preserve an orthodoxy around its application.  A 
sharp clarity about what it is, yes.  An orthodoxy about how to use it, no.

Chris

> On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greeting Harrison, paul, John, Chris, 
> 
> I strongly agree that asking "why about how" is usually not very useful. 
> 
> http://newtechusa.net/agile/start-with-how/ 
> <http://newtechusa.net/agile/start-with-how/>
> 
> 
> That said, I see a pattern here I first noticed in the Agile community 
> several years ago. People who reach the mastery level dispensed guidance that 
> made perfect sense-- to other experts. Yet that same advice just wasn't 
> readily digestible by the many "late-majority" newbies who were flooding 
> in... and seeking some very basic guidance.
> 
> For example, quite a few years ago the idea of "not doing estimates at all 
> for software projects" began to be advocated by certain well-known Agile 
> experts. While that concept is certainly well-grounded in reality and 
> appropriate for very mature organizations, it did cause some 
> less-knowledgeable people to stumble... as they struggled to understand 
> exactly what these experts were actually talking about.
> 
> The 1 Law and the 5 Principles do provide a very useful and accessible 
> template... one that makes it easy for anyone with a "good head and a good 
> heart" to jump in...and facilitate some open space with little or no 
> experience. 
> 
> What's actually wrong with that? 
> 
> Are we actually experiencing the end of the early-majority phase with Open 
> Space? 
> 
> Is the late-majority stage just getting underway?
> 
> If so, a great many "late-majority" newbies will be here shortly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/14 5:03 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:
>> I have opened space many many times without ever mentioning the four 
>> principles, the law or any other assorted wisdom associated with WHY the 
>> process works.
>> 
>> My basic practice is to explain HOW we will organize ourselves, pointing out 
>> the tools we have to do so: paper, markers, bulletin board.
>> 
>> I talk about passion and responsibility “Please only post a topic you will 
>> personally show up for…” and I mention the freedom of choosing and moving.  
>> 
>> That is all that people need to get into Open Space.  I’m not sure the 
>> principles or the law or anything else are necessary pre-conditions for the 
>> appearance and deployment of Open Space in a meeting.  I think they help 
>> explain what is happening, and I think they help people let go of control a 
>> little.  
>> 
>> All of us as facilitators would do well to remember that people are not 
>> coming to a meeting to be wowed by a process that you personally love.  They 
>> are coming to get work done.  And so it behooves us to put a lid on our 
>> passions for the mechanics of the process and simply open space so that work 
>> can get done.  Later on you can reflect on WHY it happened like that.
>> 
>> As for the idea that OST is mainstream, well perhaps not yet.  But within 
>> the world of people who think a lot about this sort of thing it is widely 
>>

Re: [OSList] Open Space by the book?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Yeah…

I’ve always thought of Fr. Brian’s slogan as the fifth law.  I appreciate 
“where ever it happens is the right place” but “Be prepared to be surprised” 
was always, like Brian himself, so very practical!

Chris


> On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Michael Herman  wrote:
> 
> All of us as facilitators would do well to remember that people are not 
> coming to a meeting to be wowed by a process that you personally love.  They 
> are coming to get work done.  And so it behooves us to put a lid on our 
> passions for the mechanics of the process and simply open space so that work 
> can get done.  Later on you can reflect on WHY it happened like that.
> 
> yes yes yes, chris.  it may well be that the, shall we say, "traditional" 
> story of 4 principles, one law and a couple of bugs is ready to go the way of 
> voting.  there is still something to be said for talking about the purpose, 
> and something to be said for not knowing what will happen.  i always liked 
> that fr. brian used to put "be prepared to be surprised" at the entrance to 
> the space.  and something to be said for giving people a chance to think 
> about what they want to do/post, before the chaos of writing and announcing 
> begins.  probably this "time to think" is the most important part about 
> talking about principles and bugs.  the higher the stakes and/or the larger 
> the group, probably the more time for pre-soaking.  guess that's the art of 
> it really... just enough, but no more, in the briefing.  and in whatever way 
> that we don't create a distraction from which we cannot escape.  the better 
> we know the group and the issues, probably the easier it is to do this.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> --
> 
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
> 
> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> I have opened space many many times without ever mentioning the four 
> principles, the law or any other assorted wisdom associated with WHY the 
> process works.
> 
> My basic practice is to explain HOW we will organize ourselves, pointing out 
> the tools we have to do so: paper, markers, bulletin board.
> 
> I talk about passion and responsibility “Please only post a topic you will 
> personally show up for…” and I mention the freedom of choosing and moving.  
> 
> That is all that people need to get into Open Space.  I’m not sure the 
> principles or the law or anything else are necessary pre-conditions for the 
> appearance and deployment of Open Space in a meeting.  I think they help 
> explain what is happening, and I think they help people let go of control a 
> little.  
> 
> All of us as facilitators would do well to remember that people are not 
> coming to a meeting to be wowed by a process that you personally love.  They 
> are coming to get work done.  And so it behooves us to put a lid on our 
> passions for the mechanics of the process and simply open space so that work 
> can get done.  Later on you can reflect on WHY it happened like that.
> 
> As for the idea that OST is mainstream, well perhaps not yet.  But within the 
> world of people who think a lot about this sort of thing it is widely known.  
> I feel like these days people call and ask about OST having experienced it 
> whereas in the 1990s and early 200s people were calling because it seemed 
> like a good idea, but they had never experienced it.  So not mainstream per 
> se, but widely accepted and known in a small part of the world.
> 
> At any rate it has been a long time since I have asked the question at the 
> start of a meeting and seen zero hands go up.  There seems to be at least one 
> person who knows Open Space.  
> 
> Whether we use the original instructions or modifications or innovations, 
> whatever you do, do it very very well.  Be very conscious, model good 
> leadership and never stop embodying invitation.  Lots of people have 
> witnessed poorly planned Open Spaces run by facilitators who are too nervous 
> to let go of their control of it.  We all owe it to our clients and 
> participants to meet their needs well with a process that helps them get 
> unlocked from the stuck places they get into.
> 
> Here’s my book again for you to download.  I hope it inspires your practice.
> 
> The Tao of Holding Space <http://www.archive.org/details/TheTaoOfHoldingSpace>
> 
> Chris 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2014, at 11:09 PM, John Baxter via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> 

Re: [OSList] Open Space by the book?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Beautiful. Both of you. 

The question of what is my intent and purpose is top of mind every time I work 
with a group. It is that principle that guides me in making choices of omission 
or commission!

Chris

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> On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Michael M Pannwitz  wrote:
> 
> Dear Chris,
> 
> every time I facilitated an OS-gathering, I carefully checked the place and 
> pinpointed the place where folks coming to the event would enter the 
> building. Right there I put the "Welcome" sign. If participants came from 
> different countries we arranged it so folks could write "welcome" in their 
> languages (see attachment).
> 
> Then I looked for the door to the space where folks would gather in a circle 
> and put the "Be prepared to be surprised" sign (in my German version its even 
> more of an admonition: "Augen Auf! Mit Überraschungen ist zu rechnen.") on 
> the door making sure it would be seen when the door is open. And then, of 
> course, refer to it in my introduction.
> 
> As for all signs (Law, Facts of Life, Crittors) I usually used flipchart 
> paper and always wrote all of them by hand (anybody can do that everywhere 
> any time, just paper and markers) for every event, part of my meditation. 
> These posters were hung horizontally except for the admonition, it was 
> vertical and slightly askew.
> 
> One time during an ost-training when participants got into setting up an os 
> event the person in charge for the admonition felt that it had to go onto a 
> pinwall in a certain place. Since there was no pinwall left over for that 
> purpose she looked through the venue for an alternative and found a broken 
> down pinwall with legs of different lengths, so the whole contraption was 
> askew, not what you would expect in an orderly place. She felt this was 
> perfect for "Be prepared to be surprised!".
> 
> Of course, she received the "Most innovative intervention achievement award" 
> that year at a special ceremony in Weimar where I treated the whole crowd to 
> local wine.
> 
> One criteria for the award is a consequential manifestation of "Form follows 
> Function". That, I think is also a criteria for the question Harrison raises 
> "Why do we do what we do? What is the intent or purpose?"
> 
> The outcome of that reflection might be that all facilitating os-events will 
> clarify for themselves why they do stuff and what their intention is. And 
> that, surprise, will result in infinite variations on the approach.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18.11.2014 00:24, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:
>> Yeah…
>> 
>> I’ve always thought of Fr. Brian’s slogan as the fifth law.  I
>> appreciate “where ever it happens is the right place” but “Be prepared
>> to be surprised” was always, like Brian himself, so very practical!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Michael Herman >> <mailto:mich...@michaelherman.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>All of us as facilitators would do well to remember that people
>>>are not coming to a meeting to be wowed by a process that you
>>>personally love.  They are coming to get work done.  And so it
>>>behooves us to put a lid on our passions for the mechanics of the
>>>process and simply open space so that work can get done.  Later on
>>>you can reflect on WHY it happened like that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> yes yes yes, chris.  it may well be that the, shall we say,
>>> "traditional" story of 4 principles, one law and a couple of bugs is
>>> ready to go the way of voting.  there is still something to be said
>>> for talking about the purpose, and something to be said for not
>>> knowing what will happen.  i always liked that fr. brian used to put
>>> "be prepared to be surprised" at the entrance to the space.  and
>>> something to be said for giving people a chance to think about what
>>> they want to do/post, before the chaos of writing and announcing
>>> begins.  probably this "time to think" is the most important part
>>> about talking about principles and bugs.  the higher the stakes and/or
>>> the larger the group, probably the more time for pre-soaking.  guess
>>> that's the art of it really... just enough, but no more, in the
>>> briefing.  and in whatever way that we don't create a distractio

Re: [OSList] Happy Birthday, ho

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Harrison…

Many happy returns to you my friend…

Chris

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:58 PM, ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Happy birthday dear Harrison!
> Cordially,
> Ingrid
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Am 02.12.2014 um 15:27 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList 
> :
> 
>> Great photo Harrison. and Daniel.
>> 
>> Harrison, with tremendous gratitude for you! Wandering in the wild,
>> noticing the great story that lives beneath the everyday.
>> 
>> And finding the simplest way in the world to share it with all of us,
>> a story that we can all share with others.
>> 
>> with love my friend
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/2/14, Daniel Mezick via OSList  wrote:
>>> Happy birthday Harrison!
>>> 
>>> (ho, ho, ho!)
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/2/14 4:13 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
 Dear List,
 
 our great friend, brother and just sent a note in which he also
 mentioned his 80th birthday today.
 I send a note back and thought I let you know just in case you also
 missed the date.
 
 Greetings from Berlin where I just revelled in memories of his 75th
 birthday party on his visit here conducting his "Practice of Peace"
 program. Among many other things someone had set up a pretty
 impressive martini cocktail bar... just a reminder on what it took to
 have him discover OST.
 
 Cheers
 mmp
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Hey...

I lost count around 300 formal actual post it notes, posters, proceedings and 
tape OST events ranging in size from 0 to 650. 

I first came across open space in 1995 in Whistler British Columbia at the 
annual meeting of IAP3. The space was opened by Ann Stadtler and Angeles 
Arrien. It was love at first sight.

I first realized that open space was a way of life after working with Birgitt 
Williams in the late 90s. We were cohosting workshops in Vancouver in what 
later became her genuine contact program and I realized that open space was far 
more than a meeting method but was in fact a whole way of living. 

I refined this understanding after meeting Michael Herman in 2001 in Vancouver 
where I was a cohost of OS on OS with Laurel Doersam. When Michael said to me 
on the last day of that event "you are in deep now" I knew he was right and for 
a few years after that we wrote together and taught together and I learned a 
great deal about living from invitation from him. 

In the past 10 years my inquiry about open-space has led me to dive deeply into 
understanding both the personal level practices and systemic level practices 
it's possible (and not possible) to make as human beings. I have done that most 
actively within the art of hosting community of practice.

These days I think I'm less inclined to distinguish between the open space of 
the meeting and the open-space of life. Walking the circle is indeed my natural 
habitat.

Thanks for the games guys.

Chris




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> On Dec 14, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Thanks for the reframing. It reminds me of a question that informed the 
> stewards of Spirited Work, an Open Space learning community that met in OS 4 
> times a year for 7 years: What does it mean to live one’s life in Open Space? 
> Living in that question has been and continues to be a journey!  
> 
> I’ve never counted the number of times I’ve walked the circle, formally 
> opening space. My first experience with OST was in 1994 and since then, I’ve 
> worked with groups as small as 5 and as large as 2,100 from all different 
> sectors — business, government, nonprofit, community and on 5 continents. I 
> know there’s no way I would have had to courage to run an OS with 1,800 
> street kids and 300 teachers in Bogota, Colombia in a language I don’t speak 
> if it hadn’t been for the deep learning that came from years of being on this 
> list!!
> 
> Daniel’s question had me reflecting on the path I’ve traveled as part of this 
> community. Your gift of openspaceworld.org gave us an early presence on the 
> web. That was and is huge. Some of my activities, done, as you noted, because 
> I felt inspired to do them:
> 
> 1995 Produced U S WEST Open Space Video. At Harrison’s suggestion, produced a 
> video about a 250-ish person OS at U S WEST Communications in Arizona. It’s 
> now on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/25251316. When we made it, 16 minutes was 
> considered short!
> 
> 1996 Co-founded Open Space Institute-US. I was one of seven at a gathering 
> with Harrison in Seattle. It was part of a larger vision of OSIs around the 
> world. Brian Bainbridge took the lead in Australia and Larry Peterson, 
> Birgitt Williams, and Diane Gibeault (I think) did the same in Canada.
> 
> 1996 Involved with starting the OS listserv. Part of the original dozen or so 
> folks who joined this list that Murli Nagasandurum set up for us, a 
> spontaneous act of generosity prompted by a message we sent out to everyone 
> on Harrison’s emailing list when we were getting OSI-US going.
> 
> 1998 Co-hosted the 6th annual OSonOS in Monterrey, California. Right after 
> the first not done by Harrison held in Toronto hosted by Birgitt Williams and 
> Larry Peterson and right before Chicago, hosted by Michael Hermann, which was 
> the last before it left North America for Berlin, hosted by Michael M 
> Pannwitz.
> 
> 1999 Produced Understanding Open Space. I put a mike on Harrison during an 
> OST workshop we co-hosted in Seattle and produced a 5-CD audio set called 
> Understanding Open Space. Harold Shinsato has turned it into a series of 
> podcasts. He’ll have to provide the details on how to access it. Those who 
> have heard it say it’s a treat! (My personal favorite line is the very last 
> thing he says on the last track. How’s that for a teaser?)
> 
> 
> I look at those dates and wonder where did the time go? It all was so long 
> ago! Yet people who are nearest and dearest to me are people I have met 
> through the years in this community. As quiet as I’ve been in the last few 
> years, I still consider this community a home base.
> 
> I’m better because of OSlist. And because of the people I’ve come to love 
> along the way.
> 
> Peggy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _

Re: [OSList] “regular lurker” + our OSTLIST web platform

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

OSLIST is not merely a tool, it is a culture.  

Replacing it will create a radical disruption to the culture that has been 
around for almost 20 years.  So there’s that.

I don’t see a reason to change the list or replace it, and I’m not especially 
inspired by any other ways to connect around OST practice.  The best is those 
of you that actively blog and share your learnings online.  I get all those in 
my feed reader, although folks seem to be blogging less and less these days in 
favour of facebook it seems.  But no matter.  OSLIST trucks along.

Chris

> On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Elwin and Joan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Michael, 
> 
> You sir are truly a give of God. 
> 
> We all are in your debt.
> 
> Elwin Guild
> 
> From: Michael Herman via OSList 
> To: Patricia Haines ; World wide Open Space 
> Technology email list  
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] “regular lurker” + our OSTLIST web platform
> 
> I think it was about 1998 when murkier, who started the list at boise state 
> univ, suggested moving the list to a fancy up-and-coming platform called 
> egroups. It was a threaded discussion email site. In my memory, must be the 
> biggest and most energized conversation we ever had on this list. In the end, 
> it was rejected. And where is egroups today?
> 
> At openspaceworld.org , since 1999, we have had 
> discussion forums, wiki, wordpress group blog, but the I think the best thing 
> we did was that I wrote some "about OST" stuff and artur de silva suggested 
> that it ought to be in languages other than English. He volunteered to do 
> Spanish andPortuguese, others did their languages too. The tasks were simple 
> and defined and got done whenever anyone came forward and offered something. 
> Now we have links to intro material in 17 languages I think. All completely 
> unplanned, but supported by just keeping the site online. 
> 
> In the meantime, there is a Wikipedia page, a Facebook group, a Ning 
> community, the os hotline, and any number of regional lists and groups and 
> meet ups of various shapes and frequencies. 
> 
> it's easy to design and build a site or platform, but yet another thing to 
> keep it going and up to date. And I don't think we can build anything and 
> expect it to both replace an established community center and also grow past 
> it, succeeding where every past effort has not. 
> 
> At the same time, none of those prior offerings really set out to replace 
> anything, I think. They all just offered something else. And that is an 
> approach that seems very open spacey to me, to just do something, try 
> something, offer something and see what happens. It might displace everything 
> or nothing, but that won't matter. It's the offering, I think, that keep us 
> going. 
> 
> I'm glad to offer sub domain space at openspaceworld.org 
>  for anything that wants building and trying. 
> Done this with many language wikis over the years. 
> 
> I'm also getting ready to cleanup at openspaceworld.org 
> , so anyone who wants to help think and do about 
> that is welcome. It's the one big site/platform we have that's completely 
> unconstrained by the structures imposed by service companies like Facebook. 
> So we can do anything we want there to tie all the other things together, as 
> long as we also find a way to maintain past contributions. 
> 
> I always keep looking for ways for openspaceworld.org 
>  to virtually disappear, into just a set of 
> links, something michael pannwitz suggested to me when the site was still 
> just six months old, and in that way to suggest and demonstrate that os is 
> much bigger than any of these platforms. 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Patricia Haines via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Please don't replace this listserv with something complicated!
> 
> Level Green Institute: fostering just & sustainable community through 
> education and the arts
> 
> On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:35 AM, Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos via OSList 
>  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> And what if we set a team to design, develop, deliver and maintain our new 
>> wonderful OSTLIST web platform, which will be up to the requirements to 
>> replace this OSLIST?
>> This team could work on an Agile way.
>> I’ll be happy to contribute. I don’t know exactly how, but I’ll be there to 
>> do it together with those who wish to do it also.
>> ;)
>> ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FROM WITHIN
>> www.colaboremos.com  
>> Arturo Uscátegui Restrepo
>> Transition Facilitator Specialized in Organizational Development. 
>> Helping organizations to collaborate and find their own solutions from within
>> +33 (0)6 52 14 29 09
>> Skype: auscateguir
>> Twitter: @icolaboremos
>> Linked in : fr.linkedin.com/in/arturouscategui/ 
>> 

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Anne Beatrice. 

You will be fine. Make sure the sessions are as long as possible. Two sessions 
of at least an hour will be important. Keep your intro short. Don't tell people 
what to do just tell them how it works and stand back and let them post their 
topics and get on with hosting their conversations. 

Provide them with a report form that has a so for the groups to record next 
steps and what they commit to do for follow up. Photograph those reports and 
send them by email to everyone. This saves you having to have a report back 
session. 

Make a date to meet again and tell everyone to come then and report on what is 
going on. 

See who stays behind. That group will be a good team to help move the issues 
forward and plan the next meeting. Go for a celebration drink with them. 

Chris 

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> On Dec 19, 2014, at 3:47 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am asked for my first Open Space! By a group of parents who are 
> homeschooling their children and want to form as an association. 
> They already planned the meeting for the 10th of January. The duration for 
> the planned event is 3h30 and there will be a shared meal before it. It 
> really seems short to me for an Open Space. 
> 
> There will be around 40 adults and 30 children. The children will be taken 
> care of by some adults, but some of them may also take part to the event. It 
> would be great :)
> 
> We had no preparation meeting so on as I was just contacted but they already 
> sent me by email some of the subjects they would like to discuss. Even if I 
> know that in OST subjects are not planned in advance, I share them with you 
> as a way to determine if OST can be a good thing for this group of people  :
> 
>  -  Aims and objectives of the non-profit we could create.
> -  What are the resources we want to give ourselves (time, energy, money) ?
> -  What are our resources for the long term? 
> -  How to build a sustainable association or group that does not depend on 
> one or two persons? 
> -  The creation and role a committee could have in the non profit
> - Would we like to merge or collaborate with the Homeschool Association of 
> Switzerland?Pros, cons, how?
> -  Next steps
> -  Articles of the non-profit
> - What is the aim of the non profit? Create activities? Support people in 
> their choice? To be known?  
> 
> I have also understood that the situation is tense, because some cantons in 
> Switzerland are going towards forbiding Homeschooling.
> 
> As it would be my first Open Space, any advice is welcome. I am especially 
> wondering if Open Space is a first good step in that case and what can be 
> realistically achieved in 3h30 by a group of people that mostly don't know 
> each other and would like to have some consensual concrete next steps at the 
> end of the afternoon. 
> 
> Any advice welcome, even if it is to say : please do something else :) 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Béa
>  
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Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

You really don't have so much time for convergence and action planning. I would 
have people start into their work and connect with folks who are doing similar 
things and then when you meet again you can make strategic choices. 

Chris

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> On Dec 20, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will go with your proposal concerning the report Chris, including next 
> steps and follow up in it. I like the proposal to have a date to meet again 
> and have everyone reporting on what is going on. I wonder though how we could 
> include a step in between that would help towards a synthesis and action 
> planning, because similar or close next steps might emerge from different 
> sessions, and also things that are important for most of the group, things 
> that are important only for some of them... 
> Do you think that could be done through the internet?
> 
> I will also see with the organizers (thanks Harrison) if that's okay for them 
> that we don't have a formal lunch so that we can have more sessions. I love 
> that idea :)
> 
> As for the children, yes, I will love to include them :) I just wonder how it 
> is possible to have children from 0 to 8 included in OS conversations... I 
> would be happy to hear your thoughts about it. I think the best way would be 
> to let it open : children who want to join do so and the other ones do 
> whatever they want with the adults that are there for them.
> 
> Daniel, I would like to have two days, but that is not the actual setting... 
> Maybe I can propose that for the next one. As for the moment, I would like to 
> help them have the best possible experience for this already planned short 
> period of time and I feel like I am well engaged in this process thanks to 
> all the good advices here :) 
> 
> And thanks again, I feel so much more intelligent and confident when I have 
> all your ideas :)
>  
> Anne-Béatrice Duparc
> (0)76/378.69.98
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> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:28 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of you for the trust you allow me to feel through your words. 
> That's just what I need!
> I am really grateful to be part of this community :) 
> Hugs,
> Béa
>  
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> 
> 
> On Friday, December 19, 2014 6:03 PM, Chris Corrigan 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Anne Beatrice. 
> 
> You will be fine. Make sure the sessions are as long as possible. Two 
> sessions of at least an hour will be important. Keep your intro short. Don't 
> tell people what to do just tell them how it works and stand back and let 
> them post their topics and get on with hosting their conversations. 
> 
> Provide them with a report form that has a so for the groups to record next 
> steps and what they commit to do for follow up. Photograph those reports and 
> send them by email to everyone. This saves you having to have a report back 
> session. 
> 
> Make a date to meet again and tell everyone to come then and report on what 
> is going on. 
> 
> See who stays behind. That group will be a good team to help move the issues 
> forward and plan the next meeting. Go for a celebration drink with them. 
> 
> Chris 
> 
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> 
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> resources. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 3:47 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I am asked for my first Open Space! By a group of parents who are 
>> homeschooling their children and want to form as an association. 
>> They already planned the meeting for the 10th of January. The duration for 
>> the planned event is 3h30 and there will be a shared meal before it. It 
>> really seems short to me for an Open Space. 
>> 
>> There will be around 40 adults and 30 children. The children will be taken 
>> care of by some adults, but some of them may also take part to the event. It 
>> would be great :)
>> 
>> We had no preparation meeting so on as I was just contacted but they already 
>> sent me by email some of the subjects they would like to discuss. Even if I 
>> know that in OST subjects are not planned in advance, I share them with you 
>> as a way to determine if OST can be a good thing for this group of people  :
>> 
>>  -  Aims and objectives of the non-profit we could create.
>> -  What are the resources we want to give ourselves (time, energy, money) ?
>> -  What are our resources for the long term? 
>> -  How 

Re: [OSList] Please describe your experience of silence in Open Space events and Happy New Year!

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Silence and space are
a place to receive
what is subtly perceived

and need to be held with the terror of not knowing 
that causes the error
of filling space to show that

you are certain this will work
and you know what will happen
but what lurks in this shadow

is a stealing
of potential
because you can never know

what will be essential
to every group in any context
so don’t stoop to the base level

of stopping evolution
because you afraid that you don’t have
the solution

that you think we need -
silence and space is the way
we will feed ourselves.

Chris.


> On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Carmela Ariza via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues
> 
> Happy new year to all!
> 
> I would like to ask all about your experience of silence in OST - please 
> describe your experience of silence while facilitating or as a participant in 
> an open space event. I will put together all responses and share it again 
> with the rest of the OSList subscribers...
> 
> I would also like to share with you a poem I wrote yesterday on the Many 
> Faces of Silence...(see below). You may also read this on my poetry blogspot: 
> Carmela's Poems and Prayers: THE MANY FACES OF SILENCE 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> 
>
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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> 
> THE MANY FACES OF SILENCE
> by: Carmela Ariza
> 31 December 2015, Panglao, Bohol, 10:22AM
>  
> INTENTIONAL SILENCE
>  
> I seek the woods
> And the woods find me
> I listen to the log
> Lying, waiting
> Eventual decay
> In the offing
>  
> PUNCTUATED SILENCE
>  
> Storms
> Bring me to a standstill
> Blood
> Rushing through my viens
> Dread
> Anxiously anticipating
>  
> DEAFENING SILENCE
>  
> Whirring thoughts
> In a constant refrain
> Burying oneself
> In work or laughter
> This is a sentence
> Without reprieve
>  
> VEXED SILENCE
>  
> Incensed
> Enraged
> Outraged
> Furious
> !*@#^)(>$@
> I walk away
>  
> PENSIVE SILENCE
>  
> Lost in deep thought
> Questioning
> Deliberate pondering
> Wistful longing
> Freefalling insights
> Plucking wisdom
>  
> MOONSTRUCK SILENCE
>  
> Nervous but ecstatic
> Consumed with desire
> Smitten kitten
> Tickled teakettle
> Frolicking in the rapids
> Restless, definitely not loveless
>  
> HEARTBROKEN SILENCE
>  
> Exposed
> Vulnerable
> Pricked
> Betrayed
> Inconsolable
> Silent
>  
> EMERGENT SILENCE
>  
> Nine months in waiting
> Coming out
> Being true to oneself
> Release and deliverance
> Reaping, fruiting
> Healing, in the fullness of time
>  
> SACRED SILENCE
>  
> In deep sorrow or deep pain
> A child’s embrace gives comfort
> In contemplation
> A coming home to the core
> In harmony with nature
> Oneness
>  
> THANKFUL SILENCE
>  
> Forbearance in difficult times
> Appreciation for what gives rise to my existence
> Reaching out to help the needy
> Grateful surrender
> Accepting the present
> Here and now
> 
> 
> I wish everyone OPEN SPACES FOR SILENCE THE WHOLE YEAR!
> 
> BLESSINGS to all!
> 
> Carms
> 
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Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Sometimes though, fuzzy purpose is really really useful.  I’ve had situations 
where a group is really sure of what it is doing, and what it exists for and 
yet nothing is working.  

This happens a lot with mainline churches these days, many of whom are certain 
that they can recreate the “success” they had in the 1960s.  They are certainly 
clear on their purpose, but the harder they try, the worse they make it for 
themselves.  

And so we have run OST meetings where the purpose was unclear and fuzzy and 
people simply proposed topics that interested them.  And it turns out that that 
is a good way to discover the new directions you are trying to get into.  Of 
course all groups need a boundary, and in the case that immediately comes to 
mind, the question was “What else can we be?” 

People felt that was too fuzzy to get any kind of strategic work done, but what 
happened was that it invited people into a now three year journey of wayfinding 
together.  Which, it turns out, is a good purpose for a church.

I think it’s not my job to “help people discover what they should be doing” 
even in Open Space.  I can, however, help hold space so that people can explore 
the fuzziness and confusion that they find themselves in AND I can model 
behaviour of not needing to know, of avoiding premature convergence of ideas 
and purpose, so that the innovation and wisdom and leadership at the margins 
can come forward.  

In the parlance of software developers, not knowing what to do is a feature of 
living in this world, not a bug.

Cheers,

Chris

> On Jan 3, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love how you put it in words John. I will discuss it today with the caller. 
> Indeed there is much that seems already prepared and "shoulds". I hope I can 
> help them let go of it. 
> Thanks for the reminder,
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 16:56:24 +1030
> From: John Baxter via OSList  >
> To: Gail West mailto:icat...@gmail.com>>, World wide Open 
> Space Technology
> email list >
> Subject: Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)
> Message-ID:
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> 
> If you can help the group to become clear about what the most important
> focus/challenge/question is for them *now*, then they will be able to let
> go of all those preconceived discussion topics in order to address their
> priority.
> If the purpose is fuzzy then all people have to go on is their baggage and
> prepared ideas.  This makes it hard for people to embrace the space, and
> they are likely to walk away disappointed (though they may still get a lot
> done).
> 
> Overall, it will be useful to help people find what they really want to *do*,
> vs what they think they should *talk about*.  I don't really know how to
> describe this better, nor how you should do it.  But it might help.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> *John Baxter*
> *Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*
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> 
> 
> On Sunday, December 21, 2014 2:58 AM, Chris Corrigan 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You really don't have so much time for convergence and action planning. I 
> would have people start into their work and connect with folks who are doing 
> similar things and then when you meet again you can make strategic choices. 
> 
> Chris
> 
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> Harvest Moon Consultants
> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design 
> 
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> workshops, blog posts and free resources. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 20, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I will go with your proposal concerning the report Chris, including next 
>> steps and follow up in it. I like the proposal to have a date to meet again 
>> and have everyone reporting on what is going on. I wonder though how we 
>> could include a step in between that would help towards a synthesis and 
>> action planning, because similar or close next steps might emerge from 
>> different sessions, and also things that are important for most of the 
>> group, things that are important only for some of them... 
>> Do you think that could be done through the internet?
>> 
>> I will also see with the organizers (thanks Harrison) if that's okay for 
>> them that we don't have a formal lunch so that we can have more sessions. I 
>> love that 

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

All good things from people named John!

My friend Toke Moeller often shares the insight that “purpose is the invisible 
leader” and I share that too.  Purpose can be stated and unstated, and like 
everything in the realm of complexity, is always changing. 

In order for emergence to happen, it happens within boundaries, and that 
includes the emergence that later comes to redefine boundaries. My point 
earlier was that stated purposes can help a great deal AND you need to leave 
space for the possibility that any way you state it or understand, there is 
always a high chance that your purpose itself may not serve, or may be at odds 
with a different, hidden and often more powerful purpose.  

This gets summed by my other friend Tim Merry who says “Culture eats strategy 
for breakfast.”  This means that no matter how clever you are or how articulate 
you are about purpose, goals and intentions, if you are opening space, culture 
will show up, and it is sometimes the more powerful purpose.  

This is why holding space is often terrifying.

Chris 

> On Jan 4, 2015, at 12:40 PM, John Watkins  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> My experience is that open spaces (and open systems) are "purpose-seeking" 
> systems, and getting clarity through emergence about purpose is probably one 
> of the most important aspects of people opening space together.  Purpose is 
> dynamic and powerfully grounding in a sense of essence or the being-ness of 
> the emergent group; it's like a strange attractor for the emergence of 
> meaning and aligned action.  Goals, on the other hand, are inert and static; 
> they tend to shut down rather than open up space.  If you set goals before 
> you gather together and make meaning, often all they do is reinforce the 
> "limitations that we mistake for our goals," to cite one of my teachers.  We 
> end up with what we started with, not something with new potential and power. 
>  Goals can be helpful, though I prefer to think about intentions and 
> aspirations and what I want to accomplish instead.  So, I would go for 
> purpose first, and use goals only as a crutch (this is a good purpose for 
> them, BTW), or even, retrospectively, once purpose and meaning and intention 
> and aligned actions are envisioned and something has been accomplished.
> 
> John Watkins
> 
> On Jan 4, 2015, at 2:37 AM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:
> 
>> I feel Chris like we have seemingly conflicting suggestions, but might be 
>> talking about different things.
>> 
>> Reading about games recently (McGonigal's Reality is Broken) got me thinking 
>> about goals.  And specifically, how goals are different from purpose.
>> 
>> Don't know whether this will help but here goes.  I am only just thinking 
>> this through so it is not well tested.
>> 
>> Goals are an element of a good game.  They are almost part of the rules of 
>> the game, like an agreement - something that we buy in to as part of 
>> participation.
>> 
>> The most productive spaces I have been part of have had a clear goal for 
>> that space (that is understood and agreed to by all).
>> 
>> I haven't used the word 'goal' to describe this before and maybe it is not 
>> the best one, but it feels right to me to use a different word than 
>> 'purpose' which always seem in reality to be impossible to pin down.  I am 
>> always aware that there is a broad web of different intents and purposes and 
>> ideas that no individual will ever compute (even just those within 
>> themselves, let alone others!), that will always be fuzzy.
>> 
>> Personally, having a solid 'goal' for a space is a fundamental part of 
>> holding that space, any space.  It need not be written down, but I need to 
>> feel it, and ideally it is as transparent as possible in the invitation and 
>> for participants (part of the social contract of participation).
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> John Baxter
>> Cocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
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>> <http://cocreateadl.com/>
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>> 
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>> Grill!
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>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> Sometimes though, fuzzy purpose is really really useful.  I’ve had 
>> situations where a group is really sur

Re: [OSList] Questions for those with more experience

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Notes

If you are clear up front for the purpose of the notes it becomes clear how and 
why to use them. One of the original purposes of participants taking notes was 
so that we wouldn't have to endure an endless litany of " report backs" at the 
end of the day which offer very little of value. Just take notes, post up a 
news wall and let people connect with those they missed. 

A secondary use of notes is a book of proceedings. Produce one if it is 
important to do so and it will be used. Don't bother if you have no strategy 
for it. Not every Open Space conversation or event needs to be tangibly 
productive. Much like a dance performance. If you weren't there you are not 
going to get much from my description of it no matter how much I think you 
should hear about it!

:)

Chris

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> On Jan 23, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Leslie Zucker via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Going to the OSI in New York last weekend was the perfect prep for me to open 
> space last night.  Thanks again to the gang who organized it and pulled it 
> off so beautifully and professionally! 
> I’m so grateful to get both that gentle tickle and firm knock on the head of 
> what Open Space is and is not. 
> 
> I’m happy to report about my experience from last night and I also have a few 
> questions for those with more experience…  
> The theme was “Space for Dance and Dancers” in the Washington, DC area in the 
> US.  It was a Thursday night event (5:30 - 9:00), it was free, catered, at a 
> super accessible location and widely promoted. 
> We had 67 RSVP ahead of time and 42 showed up. Not bad at all for the first 
> time to try this within this community. The follow-up feedback survey has 
> already gone out and feedback is very positive so far. Hooray! 
> 
> A few questions for those with opinions… 
> 
> In the Opening Circle, I did mention the importance of the notes for people 
> (especially funding decision makers in the community) who could not be there 
> at the event.  Nonetheless, the notes are underwhelming. Only about 5 out of 
> the 13 sessions turned in notes to the newsroom.  I’m creating the 
> Proceedings document now, and I wonder if it merits putting any kind of 
> paragraph at the beginning referring to the rich discussions that didn’t 
> always result in notes. I'm feeling the need to provide some context for 
> people who weren’t there and may be expecting more significant notes. I’m 
> leaning toward saying something on the first page like…. “The following 
> topics were proposed by the 42 participants who attended the event. These 13 
> topics formed the “Marketplace” [insert picture of the Marketplace] -from 
> which everyone could pick and choose from.  The conversations sessions were 
> about 45 minutes each [insert agenda] and in some, notes were taken and in 
> others, they were not. Many times the discussion is informal and 
> unstructured, and doesn’t always get transcribed from verbal excitement into 
> a documented representation.” 
> 
>  If anyone has included something similar in the Proceedings, can I see the 
> text you used?  Any examples would be great!  
> 
> Also, in my experience - both as a facilitator and participant- of Open 
> Space, the Closing Circle generally only includes half or fewer than half of 
> the people at the Opening Circle.  I realize that the Law of Two Feet 
> applies, and I wonder what anyone does or says to encourage participation all 
> the way until the very end.  Your thoughts or recommendations about doing 
> this? Verbiage you like would be a big help! 
> 
> All the best to all of you out there far and wide! 
> Leslie
> 
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Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’d go with 15 to 20 breakout spaces.  You should be fine.  A group of 100 can 
easily generate 30-40 topics.

Chris


> On Jan 26, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Susan Partnow via OSList 
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> 
> Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle at the WOW 
> (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb 15 - and trying to call 
> the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely number of sessions to plan for 
> - We have two brief OS times and expect ~100 participants.  Any educated 
> guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces? Thanks!
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Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I also point out that combining topics might seem like a good idea but for 
complex problems there is actually a benefit to having two different 
conversations. There is no such thing as redundancy and different conversations 
with different people gives you the obliquity to address intractable issues. 

Chris 

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> On Jan 27, 2015, at 2:54 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Susan,
> 
> yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.
> 
> Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me to reflect on the 
> word "topic". From work wayback with structured brainstorming I remember a 
> group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.
> 
> With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking a bit about what 
> is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or something I am 
> interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I find that there was 
> decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing. Actually, when someone 
> suggested to combine issues I would suggest in a very low-key way that this 
> was not illegal and add something like: What might look and sound very 
> similar often turns out to be different in an important way.
> 
> As a participant I have becomequite uncomfortable, irritated or even 
> foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board and "cluster" 
> stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I suppose, got me to be 
> cautious with "combining".
> 
> How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?
> 
> 
> Cheers and good luck with a very short event!
> 
> mmp
> 
>> On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:
>> Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle at the
>> WOW (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb 15 - and trying
>> to call the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely number of sessions
>> to plan for - We have two brief OS times and expect ~100 participants.
>> Any educated guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces? Thanks!
>> 
>> --
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>> Sr. Certified Facilitator, Compassionate Listening
>> Founding Director, Global Citizen Journey
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Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

You can get a lot of work done with two or three people diving into a topic 
together even while there are three or four similar topics being addressed. 

Dealing with complex issues requires taking an oblique view of a problem and 
coming at it from different angles. It is really good strategy to do this. 60 
topics for 70 people could be excellent 

What matters is your strategic architecture for following up. What is the 
purpose of these micro conversations and what will you do tho them. Perhaps 
having THAT clarity helps people relax with the volume of topics. 

Chris

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> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:51 PM, NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Michael
> 
> I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a really
> interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate for your
> thoughts
> In a couple of recent events - with the "issues and opportunities" in the
> title and the invitation to raise any issues or topics the participants feel
> strongly about - I have found myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
> to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
> With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above the 60
> odd issues20 plus breakout groups per session?
> 
> I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 'new' groups
> and a day what have others done?
> My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ groups per
> session the fragmented nature would mean limited results
> 
> I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
> I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love about it)
> but it's hard
> 
> And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?
> 
> Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia
> 
> Nigel  
> 
> Nigel Seys-Phillips
> Fulcrum Business Management Solutions
> Tel: +65 9639 2510
> E-mail: ni...@fulcrum.com.sg
> www.fulcrum.com.sg
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> 
> Dear Susan,
> 
> yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.
> 
> Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me to reflect on 
> the word "topic". From work wayback with structured brainstorming I 
> remember a group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.
> 
> With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking a bit about 
> what is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or something I 
> am interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I find that there 
> was decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing. Actually, when 
> someone suggested to combine issues I would suggest in a very low-key 
> way that this was not illegal and add something like: What might look 
> and sound very similar often turns out to be different in an important way.
> 
> As a participant I have becomequite uncomfortable, irritated or even 
> foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board and "cluster" 
> stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I suppose, got me to 
> be cautious with "combining".
> 
> How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?
> 
> 
> Cheers and good luck with a very short event!
> 
> mmp
> 
>> On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:
>> Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle at the
>> WOW (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb 15 - and trying
>> to call the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely number of sessions
>> to plan for - We have two brief OS times and expect ~100 participants.
>> Any educated guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces? Thanks!
>> 
>> --
>> Susan Partnow
>> Sr. Certified Facilitator, Compassionate Listening
>> Founding Director, Global Citizen Journey
>> 4425 Baker Ave NW
>> Seattle, WA 98107
>> tel. 206-783-8561
>> fax

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Bang on accurate John!

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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:54 AM, John Watkins via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> So it sounds to me as though you are saying something like the framing of 
> purpose and the tying together of harvest (to build on what Jeff said) are 
> what help all the micro conversations to contribute usefully to the necessary 
> diversity of ways of thinking that create oblique views in order to be able 
> to address complex problems effectively.  Is that accurate?
> 
> John
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:
>> 
>> You can get a lot of work done with two or three people diving into a topic 
>> together even while there are three or four similar topics being addressed. 
>> 
>> Dealing with complex issues requires taking an oblique view of a problem and 
>> coming at it from different angles. It is really good strategy to do this. 
>> 60 topics for 70 people could be excellent 
>> 
>> What matters is your strategic architecture for following up. What is the 
>> purpose of these micro conversations and what will you do tho them. Perhaps 
>> having THAT clarity helps people relax with the volume of topics. 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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>> Harvest Moon Consultants
>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design 
>> 
>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free 
>> resources. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:51 PM, NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a really
>>> interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate for your
>>> thoughts
>>> In a couple of recent events - with the "issues and opportunities" in the
>>> title and the invitation to raise any issues or topics the participants feel
>>> strongly about - I have found myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
>>> to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
>>> With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above the 60
>>> odd issues20 plus breakout groups per session?
>>> 
>>> I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 'new' groups
>>> and a day what have others done?
>>> My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ groups per
>>> session the fragmented nature would mean limited results
>>> 
>>> I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
>>> I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love about it)
>>> but it's hard
>>> 
>>> And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?
>>> 
>>> Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia
>>> 
>>> Nigel  
>>> 
>>> Nigel Seys-Phillips
>>> Fulcrum Business Management Solutions
>>> Tel: +65 9639 2510
>>> E-mail: ni...@fulcrum.com.sg
>>> www.fulcrum.com.sg
>>> 
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>>> us by return e-mail and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it.
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>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
>>> To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...
>>> 
>>> Dear Susan,
>>> 
>>> yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.
>>> 
>>> Jeffs res

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

This relates to the very best way I have found to train a facilitator I think I 
got from Michael Pannwitz and it is simple.

If someone asks me to train them, I invite them to attend an event with me.  
When it comes time to set the agenda, I have them go over to the wall and just 
stand there and DO NOTHING.  If someone asks for help, help them help 
themselves.  If people want to combine topics, as them if they’d like to take 
responsibility for that.  It is an intense practice in finding your own edges 
around space holding and continually inviting passion and responsibility.  It 
can last as little as fifteen minutes and it provides enough material to set up 
a life time of practice.

After the conversations are underway, I sit down with the apprentice and we 
talk about how that felt and what they have to work on in themselves.  then I 
give them a copy of The Tao of Holding Space, and we become lifelong friends.

Every person I have “trained” this way has gone on to be an awesome Open Space 
facilitator.  

Chris

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> What HO points to works especially well when I as facilitator dont have a 
> clue to what the participants are talking about, if, for instance they speak 
> in tongues other than English or German.
> Now, the trick for the facilitator, me or whoever, for not suddenly being in 
> the position of "space invador" (gads!) is to simply not listen to the 
> content of what people are saying. Do listen to the din in the room, folks 
> whispering their issues...etc. as a basis for maybe, maybe, maybe intervening 
> regarding the "frame".
> I have another trick for this: closing my eyes when I feel the urge to 
> intervene and count slowly to 10 (takes about 17 seconds)... in most cases 
> someone (the "system") will intervene long before I reach "10" with an 
> observation, remark, plea... such as:
> "Please step up to the microphone so I can hear you"
> "Could you speak up a bit"
> "When several of you are talking while someone speaks on his issue I cant 
> understand a thing"
> ...
> ...
> 
> Sometimes, someone will also come to me (I stand outside the circle during 
> posting of issues) and suggest I do something to reduce the chatter (or do 
> this or that). My response is something like "walk up to he mike and speak to 
> this point to everyone"... after a millisecond of shock, the person that came 
> up to me smiles and walks over to the mike (sometimes someone else had the 
> same idea and already is addressing the crowd.
> 
> I know that many of you out there have experienced stuff like this. Lets hear 
> about it.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> On 28.01.2015 20:41, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:
>> Elwin raised a great point about "listening." I find it is very important
>> that everybody hear all the issues. If I think somebody spoke too softly, I
>> ask for a repeat. If there are conversations breaking out, I ask for
>> respectful listening. If I see groups gathered at the wall, I ask that they
>> find a seat (even if they aren't making any noise)... 'cause they probably
>> aren't listening. When people are listening duplicate issues just about
>> disappear in my experience. Why propose an issue then it's already on the
>> wall? Similar issues for sure, and the folks will easily and quickly sort
>> out how they wish to proceed (hand in hand or one at a time).
>> 
>> But one thing I absolutely won't ever do is (as facilitator) sort/group the
>> issues. It takes too much time, it is boring, and most of all I am totally
>> ignorant of the nuances of their issues, which means that the best I would
>> ever be able to do it to make a heavy handed mess. Terrible. It's demeaning,
>> and non productive. Don't do it.
>> 
>> Harrison
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>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:25 PM
>> To: John Watkins; World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title
>

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

lforganisation. Or, stepping aside, abandoning 
>> control, etc. is the best invitation for the awesome force of 
>> selforganisation to do its thing.
>> 
>> And this thought also is entereing my mind: All this has nothing to do with 
>> trusting the participants or the process or the system. For some reason it 
>> takes me outside the hierarchical implications of "trusting" which satisfies 
>> my penchant for freedom, a bit.
>> 
>> Have a great weekend
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> 
>> mmp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30.01.2015 08:30, John Baxter via OSList wrote:
>>> Having now read through, Harrison has clearly already looked in that
>>> direction (and identified 'listening' as a priority)... : )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think the "what would you do?" question is still really interesting,
>>> if faced with such an abundance of issues.  When it might be too late to
>>> go back and hold a differently shaped space.
>>> 
>>> Yes you could leave it, but really I think that is too many issues to
>>> really be productive.  Will people self organise and have the most
>>> productive conversations they can?  I think if they have put that many
>>> topics up, perhaps not...
>>> 
>>> The textbook facilitation training of illuminating the pattern for
>>> others might be enough of an intervention?  It might not be the best,
>>> but it is what I would do...
>>> 
>>> "/Well, I see here we have very many topics.  More than I expected!/
>>> /With this many topics, most people will be in very small discussion
>>> groups./
>>> /It might be hard for people to attend the discussions that they want,
>>> because there are so many to choose from./
>>> /Keep in mind, by posting a topic, you are accepting responsibility to
>>> hold a conversation on something that you are passionate about./
>>> /
>>> /
>>> /It is up to you to choose what to do next, there are a few things that
>>> might help you to have the best conversations that you need.../
>>> /- you don't need to attend your own session/
>>> /- you can remove your own session (but not those of anybody else!)/
>>> /- you can work with others to combine sessions, or fold your own
>>> session into theirs.../
>>> 
>>> /Feel free to use your imagination!/"
>>> 
>>> Something like that.
>>> 
>>> Having had my own session(s) forcibly joined with another, it is not
>>> something I ever plan to do to others.
>>> 
>>> ​​
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> */John Baxter/*
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:42 PM, John Baxter >> <mailto:j...@jsbaxter.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I haven't read through to the end of the thread, but before the
>>>   thoughts escape me...
>>> 
>>>   How on earth did you get that many topics to begin with?
>>> 
>>>   It does not help to work out what to do when you have them, but is
>>>   there something about the way the space was introduced that led to
>>>   an impracticably large number of issues?
>>> 
>>>   I agree with others to trust in the process, but it only works when
>>>   the participants understand it well enough to make informed
>>>   decisions about
>>>   - whether and how and what to post a topic about
>>>   - whether and how to combine topics
>>>   - in general, how to make informed decisions
>>> 
>>>   To self organise effectively, people need to understand what it
>>>   means to propose a topic (host a discussion), the implications of
>>>   their actions (being unable to attend other topics at the same time,
>>>   and having others who are at other topics unable to attend theirs),
>>>   etc. etc.
>>> 
>>>   If I was a participant and I understood the nature of the gathering,
>>>   at least the essentia

Re: [OSList] Facilitating large-attendance OST- experience report

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Great!  I love these kinds of events…large, important, nervous!

Your story took me right back to several I have done, and I love your approach 
Daniel. Something about the s l o w walk away from the centre is very powerful 
and I imagine has the effect of acknowledging that tentativeness is in the room 
and needs to be addressed by action…

Thanks for sharing.

Chris

> On Feb 7, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greetings All,
> 
> I recently received an invitation to open space twice (2 locations scheduled 
> one week apart) for a very large USA organization. Both events in both 
> locations had many hundreds in attendance; we arranged seating for 400 at the 
> 2nd event. (see link and pic listed below.) All in all over 1100 persons in 
> total received an invite to one or the other of these events.
> 
> I learned a few things that I am sharing here now. My intention in sharing is 
> to help others who might find themselves arranging and executing 
> larger-attendance Open Space events
> 
> 
> The general theme of the learning has everything to do with that idea of 'one 
> less thing to do'
> 
> ===
> Thing1: Opening circle
> ===
> 
> At the 1st event, when the moment of invitation arrived, I simply placed the 
> microphone very slowly in the center of the circle.. and very slowly walked 
> away, and found myself a seat. They figured the rest out ...without any 
> assistance whatsoever from me. Awkwardness was replaced by flow as they 
> realized I wasn't doing anything and the group advised itself. 
> 
> At the 2nd event, the client knew me and the process by then. So, after 
> putting that microphone down, I just went all the way ...and slowly vacated 
> the circle completely. It worked great...and felt really good too. I stood 
> motionless well away from the circle for several minutes before moving slowly 
> along to a new place and repeating that until I circled-the-circle exactly 
> one time.
> 
> I plan to keep doing something like this going forward.
> 
> Any stuff that needed "managing" was handled by the group without any help 
> from me.
> 
> One less thing...
> 
> 
> ===
> Thing2: Marketplace "help"
> ===
> 
> For large gatherings, some OST sages suggest situating 'helpers' at the 
> time-space grid, presumably to assist participants if they need it. 
> 
> Not having done any OST events larger than 230 members, I was kind of unsure 
> about what to do about this. Felt to much like "managing stuff" to me. So for 
> the 2nd event I decided to omit any Marketplace assistance whatsoever from 
> the experience-design, even though the group was much larger than my 
> experience. 
> 
> After I slowly and deliberately explained and demonstrated the process of 
> posting to the Marketplace, I laid the microphone down at center very 
> deliberately, and slowly vacated the circle. And observed what they were 
> going to do. And almost immediately this one guy (who posted early) lingered 
> at the Marketplace. And he took it upon himself to orient anyone who had a 
> question. Some of those he oriented then began also orienting the others. 
> 
> One less thing
> 
> 
> ===
> Thing3: Space-Time Grid of Post-Its
> ===
> 
> We expected 400++ so we had 18 session spaces and 5 1-hour time slots.  We we 
> built a grid with 5 time-rows and 18 space-columns, with each time-row a 
> single color. Total 5X18=90 session tags. The 5 times were coded in 5 colors.
> 
> When it became obvious the attendance was under 300, we simply draped a 
> "curtain" of Post-It flip-chart pages over the rightmost end of these 5 
> time-rows to truncate the number of available spaces from 18 to 13, for a 
> total of :
> 
> [5 timerows]  X [13 spacecolumns] = [65 total session tags]  
> 
> ...After the start of the first session-time we later exposed additional 
> space-columns 14 and 15 (each with 5 time-rows) so folks could add up to 10 
> more sessions throughout the day if they wanted to do that. We also placed 
> the microphone over there. 
> 
> 
> 
> ===
> Thing 4: Whoops: Marketplace crowded by the circle; 1 MORE thing to do
> ===
> 
> ...When we arrived the evening ahead of the event, this epic circle of 400 
> chairs (see pics and links) was situated in the very center of room. The 
> circle was clearly crowding the Marketplace. 
> 
> It became obvious that about 50 chairs needed to be moved before the 
> Marketplace opened. We were told we could not move any chairs that evening. 
> (Something about facilities.) With the client, we decided to do the following:
> 
> ...At the moment just before the Marketplace was declared open, we paused 

Re: [OSList] Chaos and Emergence

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Just to be clear and precise.  Potlatches are still held and are an essential 
contemporary aspect of the governance system of North west Pacific coast 
indigenous nations. They were banned from the 1920s to the 1950s (which didn't 
really stop them going away, passion and responsibility and all that) but I can 
tell you they are very much alive today. 

Chris

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> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Eric Lilius via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI Pernilla,
> I would be very interested in a conversation about OST and U.Lab. 
> I am part of a coaching circle, athough not an official  one listed on the 
> Presencing site 
> 
> U.Lab has been a powerful experience for me with the many opportunities for 
> growth.
> i decided early on that I would get the most out of it if I really put myself 
> into it.
> 
> It is a tremendous and generous give away of resources and tools
> the indigenous people of western Canada used to hold what they called a 
> potlach, 
> where a family would hold a great feast and give away their possessions, 
> knowing it would come back to them.
> I was reminded of this as I watched the week 5 TED talk by Nipun Mehta.
> 
> I look forward to a conversation.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> .
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Pernilla Luttropp  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Eric!
>> I’m also one of the 30 000 participants in this MOOC.
>> It would be great to hear more about your reflections on Open Space and 
>> Theory U after the course is over in March. I’d be glad to host a virtual 
>> meeting on this and if anyone else took part in the course, feel free to 
>> join.
>> 
>> The question I’m sitting with right now is on ‘how to deal with complexity 
>> in working with people/communities/organisations” and the different 
>> answers/stories given by different “theories” and people.
>> 
>> On my way to somewhere...
>> 
>> Pernilla Luttropp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Den 2015-02-15 21:15, skrev "Eric Lilius via OSList" 
>> :
>> 
>> Thanks you for sharing this. 
>> Emergence and Peggy have been on my mind a lot lately. 
>> 
>> I committed  to a MOOC being offered for free by MIT's Presencing Institute 
>> titled
>> U.LAB: Transforming Business, Society and Self.
>> https://www.edx.org/course/u-lab-transforming-business-society-self-mitx-15-s23x#.VOD4WxIWMsc
>> 
>> It is based on Otto Sharmer's books Theory U and Presence
>> The text for the course is his latest book:  Leading From the Emerging 
>> Future: From Ego-system to Eco-system Economies 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Some 30,000 people around the planet have signed on to some level of 
>> participation.
>> 
>> I see this course building conditions for and encouraging emergence in the 
>> participants and groups. Emergence keeps popping into my mind and Chris 
>> Corrigan's expression of emergence which I will paraphrase as being "people 
>> go away with something that nobody brought."
>> 
>> Aside from the extremely generous and evolving course material , journaling 
>> exercises, mindfulness, opportunities to notice and deepen listening, I meet 
>> with a group of 5 who follow a prescribed process called a coaching circle 
>> (Case Clinic) which includes silence, encourages deep listening, and 
>> generative conversation. We take turns being the case giver. It is a rich 
>> process for all participants.
>> 
>> I am starting to regard U.Lab as a potlacha great giveaway.
>> 
>> Up from the deep lurky depths,
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:27 PM, christine koehler via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Thank you Suzanne for reminding us of this ressource. I enjoyed hearing 
>> Peggy a lot.
>> It enabled me to see clearly the roots of my practice with organizations, 
>> and how this list is my main source of new ideas and inspirations.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Suzanne Daigle via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Harold and company,
>> 
>> Some things are worth repeating and worth re-inviting.  Having each listened 
>> to Peggy's talk yesterday, Kevin O'Brien and I found ourselves vibrantly 
>> engaged in conversation this morning replaying bits and parts that had so 
>> ignited our passion and courage in the work that we are doing together to 
>> bring the spirit and processes of self management into organizations. I had 
>> the good fortune of meeting Kevin at International House in January 2014; he 
>> has since joined OSI US along with Dan Mezick.
>> 
>> So in case you missed Peggy's conversation with Michael Dowd check Day 13 at 
>> this link.  Available free for the next 10 days only. Total cost to have 
>> access to all the talks is $25. You may know many of these speakers and may 
>> feel the investment is worthwhile. 
>> http://www.entheos.com/The-Future-is-Calling-Us-to-Greatness/Play
>> 
>> Suz

Re: [OSList] Good questions for a OS

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

As always, the question depends on the need and purpose of the Open Space.  

Basically I always work with clients to clearly speak the necessity for the 
meeting.  Way do you need to do this now? Why are you using open space?

And then from a purpose perspective I ask what are you trying to do here? How 
will this meeting help you? How can the participants help?

From there I help my clients design a way to work with the results, so everyone 
knows what will happen to the insights and learning that are developed. 
Sometimes this is “nothing” and other times, there will be a need for a 
detailed follow up process to take ideas and put them into action, whatever 
that looks like.

And after all that, it usually comes dow to a very simple question like “Givien 
the needs we are facing what are the conversations we need to have now?” Or 
“what are the projects we need to start?” Or the classic Harrison Owen 
question: “what are the issues and opportunities for ?”

Be simple in your question, be open to the variety of answers and approaches 
people will take.  Never give examples of the kinds of conversations that 
people should be having. Let the participants bring the depth to the work and 
do a very thorough job of inviting so that you have a high amount of diversity 
and conflicting opinions in the room.

And then, of course, open the space and get out of the way.

Chris 

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Craig & all,
> 
> I believe there different kinds of good questions, depending on the 
> intention. 
> So what makes for a good question? 
> Being clear about one’s own intention behind the question is one aspect!
> 
> To open space for exploration, I  love  „What if…?“ questions.
> 
> What I often experience as closing space are „How…?“ questions.
> 
> (And of course at the right time of an exploration, „how“ is valid and 
> needed.)
> 
> I hope there will be many more different responses to this question of yours!
> 
> Marai
> https://about.me/maraikiele 
> 
>> Am 11.06.2018 um 15:35 schrieb Craig Gilliam via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>> 
>> I do not post often, but I read the Open Space Posts regularly and find them 
>> thought-provoking and helpful. Thanks! 
>> 
>> I practice Open Space in multiple contexts professionally and in my own 
>> person life. Am a strong believer in what it creates and invites from and 
>> out in others and myself. . .
>> 
>> When I begin with groups, I regularly hear, "What makes for a good 
>> question?" I have my responses, but want to hear what you have to say. I am 
>> looking for suggestions, thoughts, ideas, resources (books) etc., that you 
>> would recommend to help people/groups identify and write helpful/good 
>> theme/intention questions for OS conversation. What are the qualities of a 
>> good question, and what are some resources you suggest?
>> 
>> Invite your thoughts. Thanks to anyone who has some thoughts or suggestions 
>> on this.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dr. W. Craig Gilliam
>> 2927 Paradise Dr.
>> Shreveport, LA 71105
>> 504-250-4046 
>> 
>> Achiever | Learner | Adaptability | Maximizer | Relator
>> 
>> To live fully is our call.
>> On this grand adventure,
>>  our mere being says that we are invited. . .
>> (The Invitation by w. craig gilliam;, original 2015, revised 2017)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Hi Karl:

I have a chapter in the book “Dialogic Organizational Development” on Hosting 
and holding containers and a follow up paper in the Journal of Organizational 
Development, which you can read here: 
http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ODP-V48No2-Corrigan_Rev3.pdf

There are other resources and publications on my website as well that are less 
academic in nature: 

http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/books-and-papers/

Cheers. 

Chris. 

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> On Jul 4, 2018, at 5:57 AM, Royle, Karl via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
>  
> I am in the process of writing a PHD by publication and have become 
> interested in the conceptual basis of opening space/holding space and closing 
> space. I am also interested in the concept of self structuring  of open space 
> (contentious I know) and pattern recognition as people participate in open 
> space.
>  
> Does anyone know of any literature around these themes.. or equally, any 
> thoughts?
>  
> Just a thought.
>  
> Many thanks in advance
>  
> Karl
>  
>  
> Karl Royle
> Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
> Certified Scrum Product Owner and Scrum Master
> Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
> University of Wolverhampton 
> 01902323006
> 07815416698
> @karlroyle. On Twitter
> Karlr61 Skype 
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Karl_Royle/contributions
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: OSList  on behalf of Anna 
> Caroline Türk via OSList 
> Reply-To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, 4 July 2018 at 09:58
> To: OS international List 
> Cc: Anna Caroline Türk 
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Learning to work with OST
>  
> Dear Thomas,
>  
> thank you for your dedication and creativity to explore open space. :) I am 
> sure you have sooo many new stories to share about the essence and nature of 
> open space! 
>  
> I am really looking forward to experiencing your new level of thinking, being 
> present and sharing new perspectives at our training Working with Open Space 
> Technology in the Netherlands in September this year. 
>  
> It’s always so much fun to “work” with Doris, you and our participants. 
>  
> Doris and myself are also planning to come to Iceland to the WOSonOS and hope 
> to meet many of our dear & crazy colleagues from around the world there! ;)
>  
> I recently facilitated an Open Space Technology meeting at a school with 300 
> young people who discussed how to get involved and support migrants coming to 
> Germany.
> Here you can see a little Video about the Open Space - in German (no 
> subtitles).
>  
> much Love all around! 
> Anna Caroline 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 3, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList 
>  wrote:
>  
> Dear friends in Open Space
> I just returned home after almost 6 months “in open space”. My wife and 
> myself have been on a journey in 6 countries including NZ, Aus, Cambodia, 
> Vietnam, Laos and Indonesia. No musts just going with the flow – being in 
> open space. What a privilege and joy. And now I am back in our house, 
> renovating my office and enjoying summer holiday 😊. I have also booked my 
> tickets to join WOSonOS in Iceland in October. Otherwise there is a lot of 
> open space ahead which gives me the opportunity to be and see what emerges. 
> Exciting!
>  
> I also want to take the opportunity to ask you to spread the word, if you 
> know anyone interested to learn how to work with OST in a sustainable way. I 
> am happy to offer our three day training September 12-14 in our favorite 
> place in The Netherlands, 50 min from Amsterdam airport. This learning 
> journey is facilitated by a great team where I am happy to “work” together 
> with Doris Gottlieb and Anna Caroline Türk. 
> More info!
>  
> Adding a picture from an open spacey Sweden
> 
>  
> So, see you in Amsterdam and/or Iceland…
> Hugs
> Thomas Herrmann
> Open Space Consulting AB
> Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
> Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
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> Sept 12-14: Working with Open Space Technology – Netherlands (dito)
> 2019
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Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Micheal’s description below is helpful, and I will add that the form of 
complexity being researched by the Santa Fe institute is computational 
complexity, which is valuable but not completely the way that human systems 
operate.  

This map does a really good job at articulating the various currents in 
complexity theory as they have unfolded over the last number of decades: 
http://scimaps.org/maps/map/map_of_complexity_sc_154/detail 


Lately I have been working a lot with the work of David Snowden 
(www.corgnitve-edge.com ) and Glenda Eoyang 
(https://www.hsdinstitute.org ), the latter of 
whom has done a lot of work on containers too. Her book Adaptive Action is 
quite a good and accessible introduction to her work, describing the role of 
containers in complexity.  The paper I published in teh Journal of 
Organizational Development expanded Dave’s theory of containers as well.

Chris



> On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Harrison,
> 
> I suspect that "academic" approaches of the established kind are very weak 
> for really complex stuff such as for instance "selforganisation" which was 
> discovered early in our experimental journey to be the essential ingredient 
> in the Open Space Technology approach.
> 
> In other words, commonly used scientific exploration which is then visible in 
> the "academic literature" has a hard time to get to the core. That might also 
> result in the incoherent phenomenon of having many millions of people all 
> over the world exposed to "OST" and thousands of facilitators working with 
> this approach for decades with unusual results AND talking about their 
> EXPERIENCES but not "analysing" or "researching" it with tools they know but 
> are ineffective.
> 
> Of course, this will not discourage our quest for getting an understanding... 
> working with it, though, and seeing productive outcomes appears to be 
> sufficient for our praxis. I say that in the face of what I also believe 
> "there is no better thing for good praxis than a good theory" (this is a 
> short form of what Kurt Lewin had to say on this subject). So I love folks 
> like Karl who are on the quest!
> 
> Looking at the German wikipedia for "self-organisation" I saw this note:
> 
> ---"They arise predominantly through processes of spontaneous 
> self-organization and are usually inaccessible to a theory based on known 
> mathematical functions."---
> 
> which is embedded in this longer piece that also refers to the work of the 
> Santa Fe folks
> 
> ---"Theory of complex systems
> 
> The latest flow is the theory of complex systems. A complex system is a 
> system whose properties can not be completely explained by the properties of 
> the components of the system. Complex systems consist of a multitude of 
> interconnected and interacting parts, entities, or agents.
> 
> Complex systems are widespread, indeed almost dominant, from the world of 
> elementary particles right up to human society. [2] They arise predominantly 
> through processes of spontaneous self-organization and are usually 
> inaccessible to a theory based on known mathematical functions. Examples are 
> the formation of atomic nuclei, the atoms, the transformation of substances 
> from one state of aggregation into another, crystallization, chemical 
> reactions, evolution, mental processes in the brain, the development of 
> social systems, etc. In open nature, open systems are dominant In the 
> inanimate nature, complex systems usually form spontaneously with the release 
> of energy or in thermal equilibrium.
> 
> The theory of complex adaptive systems is based primarily on the work of the 
> Santa Fe Institute. This new complexity theory, which describes emergence, 
> adaptation and self-organization, is based on agents and computer simulations 
> that include multi-agent systems (MAS), which have become an important tool 
> in the exploration of social and complex systems."---
> 
> Wishing us all a grand weekend
> Greetings from Berlin where I will pick the first blackberries of this season 
> in our garden, a marvel of selforganisation, those berries
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 07.07.2018 um 13:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
>> Karl – there is very little in the academic literature for reasons I’ve 
>> always found interesting and odd… but predictable. However, the 
>> International Press has covered it extensively and if you will accept a 
>> rather biased source, I have a number of books on the subject. 5 remain in 
>> print and are published by Berrett-Koehler. There are also a number of 
>> others, now out of print, but available online at www.openspaceworld.com 
>>  along with s number of occasional papers.  
>> You might find my first book, “Spirit: Transformation and Development in 
>> Organizations” interest

Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Happy to share experiences and stories John.  Sounds like a great project and 
this stuff is starting to happen all over British Columbia, as a result of 
governments and other entities who are taking seriously the calls to action 
from our Truth and Reconciliation commission and process.  

Chris

> On Jul 10, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great John. Sounds like Chris :) I'm happy to talk but he's a voice of 
> experience. I wrote a paper about white folks learning some things...
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 9:42 AM john watkins  > wrote:
> Jeff,
> 
> And I love that you have brought indigenous and first nations learning to the 
> table. One of the districts we are working with is Cowichan, on Vancouver 
> Island in BC. The district has made a commitment to re-engaging the first 
> nations community in their efforts to redesign the school district, from how 
> they see the land as part of the learning culture, to discipline, to learning 
> strategies, to ways of engaging the elders in dialogue and shared wisdom. It 
> is fascinating to see how that is happening. I’d love to learn more about 
> what you found.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Jeff Aitken > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the clarification Karl. 
>> 
>> OS seems to hold the space open by having the rule and laws which actually 
>> regulate the participatory process.
>> 
>> And I love your mention of ceremony as a way to understand open space.
>> 
>> My research was constrained and illuminated by being in a doctorate in 
>> traditional knowledge. So I was finding indigenous ways of knowing and being 
>> to help make sense of open space. As I learned my own roots and got grounded 
>> there.
>> 
>> I had studied with the Basque mystic and anthropologist Angeles Arrien, 
>> whose work in the Four Fold Way is just one kind of wayfinding narrative. 
>> "Wayfinding" as a traditional cultural rubric for traveling thru chaos and 
>> complexity, both outer and inner. So to find the fourfold way (and the Law) 
>> at the center of open space was gratifying.
>> 
>> She also said the closing circle of an OS could be viewed thru the lens of 
>> the "return and giveaway" formal closure of traditional ceremonies. To 
>> gather again and share gifts and stories with one another.
>> 
>> I took seriously Harrison's lively stories of the Kpelle in Liberia and his 
>> work with Hebrew creation stories in seminary. Both helped flesh out 
>> traditional African notions of time and space (showing up in the four/five 
>> principles) - and the interior and exterior dimensions of changes in culture 
>> and worldview, such as Kabbalist frameworks of psyche and cosmos embedded in 
>> those creation stories.
>> 
>> Our friend Chris C was a great resource, having so much experience with 
>> First Nations and traditional knowledges and open space.
>> 
>> I love that John and yall and others are brilliant with sophisticated 
>> Western tools in talking about OS. It was enjoyable to look in another 
>> direction and also find value there. Wishing you good travels.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> Telegraph Hill
>> San Francisco
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 8:50 AM Royle, Karl > > wrote:
>> Great,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> As I posted I thought you might already be engaged in this arena..   ☺
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have you looked at Sen and capability theory applied to education?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> K
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: john watkins mailto:johnw...@mac.com>>
>> Date: Tuesday, 10 July 2018 at 16:43
>> To: Karl Royle mailto:k.ro...@wlv.ac.uk>>
>> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>, 
>> "pe...@peggyholman.com " 
>> mailto:pe...@peggyholman.com>>, Jeff Aitken 
>> mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Karl,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Michael Fullan is one of my longest standing heroes in education. His recent 
>> works, with Joanne Quinn and Joanne McEachen, Coherence: The Right Drivers 
>> in Action for Schools, Districts, and Systems, and, Deep Learning: Engage 
>> the World, Change the World, are really wonderful, thorough, and solid. He’s 
>> also been an advisor to our project, and one of the acknowledgements in the 
>> article you cite is the other person I am working with on this project, Jal 
>> Mehta, at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. But I am not sure they 
>> get all the way to total system redesign around principles and practices of 
>> social network learning theory and pattern emergence through iterative 
>> feedback mechanisms, which is why I love this conversation thread you 
>> started.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Note that I cite Peggy in my blog. Also Margaret Wheatley.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Royle, Karl > > wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi John
>

Re: [OSList] Welcoming WOSonOS 2019 to the U.S.

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Congratulations.  Having provided that talking stick to our community back in 
2001 when we hosted in Vancouver, let me say how pleased I am that you have 
received it and that it continues to wing it’s way around the world.  Let us 
know the dates as soon as you can. It would be quite fun to come to the 
original stomping ground.

Chris

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:55 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> We are grateful that WOSonOS 2018 has accepted our hosting invitation to 
> Washington D.C. Most likely the second half of October.
> 
> I, Harold, am humbled and terrified, to have received the First Nations 
> talking stick as the symbol of the WOSonOS hosting and will keep it safe 
> until we hand it to the next host.
> 
> One of the biggest lessons is the facilitating Open Space, you hold the 
> participants lives in your hands. This is wisdom from Harrison.
> 
> Thank you to all our wonderful community,
> 
> Harold Shinsato
> For the Open Space Institute U.S.
> 
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’ve used Open Space as a part of policy making work in the following contexts:

* Working with the Ministry of Advanced Education in British Columbia on 
Aboriginal post-secondary education policy
* Working with two alternative school programs in North Vancouver and Bowen 
Island, British Columbia to host discussions with parents and children around 
education policy
* Working with a school district and indigenous communities in Prince George BC 
to create an Aboriginal Choice School (also used World Cafe and participatory 
decision making to create recommendations for a site for that school)

As a part of the policy making process, Open Space is useful for including 
diverse stakeholders in the process. I would make sure that the participants in 
the process are allowed as much freedom as possible to tell their stories, 
convene there conversations and raise their issues.  Sometimes policy makers 
want to convene large groups to have stakeholders make policy. If you are 
including people like students, teachers and others in the conversation, you 
need to not have the expectation that they will make policy.  Let the policy 
makers work with the results to craft policy. Work with the conveners of the 
break out sessions later to keep them in the loop about how their work has 
informed the process.  

If you are only working with policy makers, then the Open Space will point to 
the overall most important issues to deal with in the policy framework.  Don’t 
use Open Space to make a decision, but instead, use the process the allow the 
group to explore a diversity of approaches to the issues and then have your 
core policy team work within that diversity of opinion.

Those are my reflections.  Let me know if you need anything else.  I’m sure 
others will weigh in as well.

Chris

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear OS community
> 
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of 
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
> 
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, highschool/university 
> students and young people who are recently out of school to the 
> conversations. . ..but who else should be there?  
> 
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the 
> possibility to share it with me.  
> 
> All the best
> 
> Ingibjorg (Inga)
> 
> ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
> Reykjavik, Iceland
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Re: [OSList] conversation & listening in Pittsburgh

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

The agreements I use for almost all dialogue are:

Speak from your own experience 
Listen to understand
Be aware of your impact. 

Simple and a kind invitation to engage. 

Chris

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> On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> My friends and I are holding daily conversation & listening spaces on the 
> streets near the Tree of LIfe Synagogue in Pittsburgh, PA where the mass 
> shooting occurred this past Saturday .
> 
> We are looking to establish a basic set of agreements and intentions for 
> listening and dialogue - both for alignment among our core team, and 
> highlights to post on signs and website for our volunteers and those who stop 
> by. 
> 
> We are promoting an open space to welcome people as they are , and want to 
> provide compassion-fueled support and listening and avoid closing people down 
> or getting embroiled in any negativity or political discourse.   
> 
> Any advice is most welcome :) 
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Re: [OSList] Happy Birthday Harrison!

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Many happy returns Harrison.  Happy returns to Maine, to Open Space, to this 
community that loves you, to the people you cherish.  May you stop for a moment 
today to feel the love and respect and admiration coming your way.

Chris

> On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:29 PM, Suzanne Daigle via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Harrison,
> 
> Posted this pic on Open Space Facebook!  Sharing it here.  With love and life 
> gratitude, wishing you a magical "be prepared to be surprised" day!
> 
> With love and many hugs,
> Suzanne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [OSList] canadian tables

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

The story is this:

IN 2003 Michael Herman, Judi Richardson and I were doing an Open Space in 
Fairbanks Alaska in an amazing room which had a full mural on the wall.  There 
was no way to tape anything to the wall, and there were no rolling whiteboards. 
 We had to improvise.  Micheal is the clever one, and he started setting up two 
meter tables on their end, by extending one leg and standing them up to make a 
portable wall.  As our agenda, and then news wall grew with the 60 or so 
sessions over two days, the wall grew too and it soon encompassed one end of 
the space and curled around the sides. It looked very much like a hockey rink.

One of our participants was a young man who played on the Alaska ice hockey 
team and he had a puck shaped stone in his pocket.  He noticed the resemblance 
to an ice hockey rink.  During lunch one day he dropped the stone on the floor 
and a spontaneous game of foot hockey broke out at the end with the curved wall 
of tables.  

Michael called his innovation “Canadian tables” because anything in a system 
that causes an ice hockey game to break out is, by definition, Canadian.

Chris

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but the 
> file size sent it to the list moderator.
> 
> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable walls 
> perfect for os agenda making!
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:50 AM David Osborne via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> As a Canadian I have to ask. What are “Canadian Tables”?
> 
> Let me know and my best to all.
> 
> David
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Doris Gottlieb via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eva,
>> 
>> Thanks for that lovely note. I have used Canadian Tables a few times and I 
>> am so glad that way back when there were so many great OST facilitators who 
>> discovered these ways to keep space open.
>> 
>> With love,
>> 
>> Doris
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM Eva P Svensson via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Long time no see or post from me - but I really need to say that for the 
>> first time since about 20 years with Open Space I had the chance to use 
>> ”Canadian tables” when I worked at the Royal Opera house in Stockholm - and 
>> you could tell that there was NO way to put tape on the walls. Worked great 
>> of course :-)
>> hugs
>> Eva
>> 
>> Bästa hälsningar
>>  
>> Eva P Svensson
>>  
>> EPS Human Invest AB
>> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
>>  
>> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag 
>> och organisationer"
>>  
>> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
>> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
>> www.epshumaninvest.se 
>> Skype: eva.p.svensson
>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB
>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson
>> 
>> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till 
>> dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] canadian tables

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

That was remarkable...! And for those that didn’t know him, Brian was a 
Catholic priest, for whom wearing black was not his usual practice. But that 
day he was clearly there with us. 

What a fun trip that was. 

Chris 

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> i love this part from chris... "...anything in a system that causes an ice 
> hockey game to break out is, by definition, Canadian."  ...but while I was 
> pretty sure it was my engineering, I was thinking that Chris, the hockey nut 
> (i.e. the Canadian) must have come up with the name.  I'd forgotten the kid 
> with the rock, but i did remember those tables wrapping all around one end of 
> the room and thinking it looked just like an indoor rink.  
> 
> here's another favorite little bit from that time... Chris might remember 
> more of this one, too, but what i remember is that chris and judi and i were 
> laughing a lot and found ourselves making lots of references to fr. brian 
> bainbridge in our conversations.  we had a lot of fun describing everything 
> as "it's all good," for instance.  when the three of us sat down to eat lunch 
> together one day, somebody brought us, or we found on the table, somehow, 
> some silverware and four napkins... three of the napkins were the same red 
> that everyone else seemed to have at their tables but the fourth one was 
> black.  brian, we laughed, was taking "fully present and totally invisible" 
> to a whole new level! 
> 
> thanks for sharing these stories. 
> 
> michael
> 
>  
> --
> 
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> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
> 
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> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:35 PM David Osborne via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> This story is priceless for many reasons. Not only do I now know the what 
>> and why's of Canadian Tables but also it takes place in one of my favorite 
>> places on earth AND the gift keeps on giving. It reminds me of Judi 
>> Richardson who is a friend who I haven't seen in years from my hometown in 
>> Canada. And of course as is true with every Canadian any story that involves 
>> ice hockey is good.
>> 
>> Thanks for humoring my curiosity and sharing such a great story.
>> 
>> Best to all of you,
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> David R. Osborne
>> Organization and Leadership Development
>> 
>> 
>> 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 
>> 703-939-1777   |   dosbo...@change-fusion.com   |   change-fusion.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:29 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> The story is this:
>>> 
>>> IN 2003 Michael Herman, Judi Richardson and I were doing an Open Space in 
>>> Fairbanks Alaska in an amazing room which had a full mural on the wall.  
>>> There was no way to tape anything to the wall, and there were no rolling 
>>> whiteboards.  We had to improvise.  Micheal is the clever one, and he 
>>> started setting up two meter tables on their end, by extending one leg and 
>>> standing them up to make a portable wall.  As our agenda, and then news 
>>> wall grew with the 60 or so sessions over two days, the wall grew too and 
>>> it soon encompassed one end of the space and curled around the sides. It 
>>> looked very much like a hockey rink.
>>> 
>>> One of our participants was a young man who played on the Alaska ice hockey 
>>> team and he had a puck shaped stone in his pocket.  He noticed the 
>>> resemblance to an ice hockey rink.  During lunch one day he dropped the 
>>> stone on the floor and a spontaneous game of foot hockey broke out at the 
>>> end with the curved wall of tables.  
>>> 
>>> Michael called his innovation “Canadian tables” because anything in a 
>>> system that causes an ice hockey game to break out is, by definition, 
>>> Canadian.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but the 
>>>> file size sent it to the list moderator.
>>>> 
>>>> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable 
>>>> walls perfect for os agenda making!
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> San Francisco
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 3,

Re: [OSList] canadian tables

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Another time working with Michael, we did an Open Space outdoors in the middle 
of the village on my own little island, and lacking any sort of wall at all, we 
pinned topics to a cedar hedge and called it “The Hedgenda.”

Chris

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 AM, R Chaffe via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can always go outside and write/draw in the sand, dirt or snow.   Perhaps 
> it is a good exercise to plan for the agenda to be temporary and the 
> participants asked to take responsibility for remembering the agenda they 
> wish to run with.
> 
> Yes quite a challenge and one we often delegate to others!  
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> 
> On 4 Dec 2018, at 7:20 am, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but the 
>> file size sent it to the list moderator.
>> 
>> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable walls 
>> perfect for os agenda making!
>> 
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:50 AM David Osborne via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
>> wrote:
>> As a Canadian I have to ask. What are “Canadian Tables”?
>> 
>> Let me know and my best to all.
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Doris Gottlieb via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Eva,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that lovely note. I have used Canadian Tables a few times and I 
>>> am so glad that way back when there were so many great OST facilitators who 
>>> discovered these ways to keep space open.
>>> 
>>> With love,
>>> 
>>> Doris
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM Eva P Svensson via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Long time no see or post from me - but I really need to say that for the 
>>> first time since about 20 years with Open Space I had the chance to use 
>>> ”Canadian tables” when I worked at the Royal Opera house in Stockholm - and 
>>> you could tell that there was NO way to put tape on the walls. Worked great 
>>> of course :-)
>>> hugs
>>> Eva
>>> 
>>> Bästa hälsningar
>>>  
>>> Eva P Svensson
>>>  
>>> EPS Human Invest AB
>>> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
>>>  
>>> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag 
>>> och organisationer"
>>>  
>>> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
>>> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
>>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
>>> www.epshumaninvest.se 
>>> Skype: eva.p.svensson
>>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB
>>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson
>>> 
>>> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till 
>>> dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [OSList] canadian tables

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

No…that’s perfect!

C

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:38 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hedgenda - Love that - in Swedish that would be a bit difficult, since hedge 
> also means ”ass”  
> *laughing*
> :O)
> 
> 
> Bästa hälsningar
>  
> Eva P Svensson
>  
> EPS Human Invest AB
> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
>  
> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag 
> och organisationer"
>  
> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
> www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/>
> Skype: eva.p.svensson
> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB
> twitter:@EvaPSvensson
> 
> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till 
> dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 4 dec. 2018 kl. 16:28 skrev Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>> 
>> Another time working with Michael, we did an Open Space outdoors in the 
>> middle of the village on my own little island, and lacking any sort of wall 
>> at all, we pinned topics to a cedar hedge and called it “The Hedgenda.”
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 AM, R Chaffe via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can always go outside and write/draw in the sand, dirt or snow.   
>>> Perhaps it is a good exercise to plan for the agenda to be temporary and 
>>> the participants asked to take responsibility for remembering the agenda 
>>> they wish to run with.
>>> 
>>> Yes quite a challenge and one we often delegate to others!  
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2018, at 7:20 am, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but the 
>>>> file size sent it to the list moderator.
>>>> 
>>>> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable 
>>>> walls perfect for os agenda making!
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> San Francisco
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:50 AM David Osborne via OSList 
>>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> As a Canadian I have to ask. What are “Canadian Tables”?
>>>> 
>>>> Let me know and my best to all.
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Doris Gottlieb via OSList 
>>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Eva,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for that lovely note. I have used Canadian Tables a few times and 
>>>>> I am so glad that way back when there were so many great OST facilitators 
>>>>> who discovered these ways to keep space open.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With love,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doris
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM Eva P Svensson via OSList 
>>>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Long time no see or post from me - but I really need to say that for the 
>>>>> first time since about 20 years with Open Space I had the chance to use 
>>>>> ”Canadian tables” when I worked at the Royal Opera house in Stockholm - 
>>>>> and you could tell that there was NO way to put tape on the walls. Worked 
>>>>> great of course :-)
>>>>> hugs
>>>>> Eva
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bästa hälsningar
>>>>>  
>>>>> Eva P Svensson
>>>>>  
>>>>> EPS Human Invest AB
>>>>> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
>>>>>  
>>>>> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående 
>>>>> företag och organisationer"
>>>>>  
>>>>> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
>>>>> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
>>>>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
>>>>> www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/>
>>>>> Skype:

Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 92, Issue 5

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’m not clear on exactly what is wrong with the Wikipedia article. It seems 
fine to me, such as it is. But I realize I’m not seeing what others are seeing. 

Part of editing well is to identify specifics that need to be changed and 
pointing to good sources that support the change. 

Are there particular thing s that stand out for you?

Chris. 

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> On Dec 5, 2018, at 5:58 AM, Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Friends,
> 
> I am bringing my good friend Kaarel from Wikimedia into the conversation to 
> answer Tom's editing question.
> 
> Smiles Bhav...
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 14:30, Tom Brown via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> I found the wikipedia article helpful at about this point in it’s history.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Space_Technology&direction=prev&oldid=791482870
>> 
>> I’ve never take on the Wikipedia Community.  So, I’m not particularly clear 
>> about the norms of the community for making changes to articles.
>> 
>> --Tom Brown
>> tgb...@gmail.com
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, 9:05 PM -0500, Patrick Schley via OSList 
>>> , wrote:
>>> The Wikipedia article used to be much more helpful (including details on 
>>> the 5 OS principles, Law of Two Feet/Mobility, etc). At some point in the 
>>> last 6 months someone edited it to its current state. I also see that it’s 
>>> now been flagged as being written like an “advertisement,” which is funny 
>>> to me give the open source nature of OST.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -p.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <38C16FC7DE1E4738A841B5914898C47B.png>
>>> 
>>> Patrick Schley
>>> 
>>> Application Support Specialist
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Office  +1 888-643-5778 x 486
>>> 
>>> Customer Care +1 888-643-5778 x 201
>>> 
>>> psch...@tessituranetwork.com
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: OSList  On Behalf Of 
>>> christopher macrae via OSList
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 6:02 PM
>>> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>> Cc: christopher macrae 
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 92, Issue 5
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> i am totally underwhelmed by wikipedia's info on open space - can anyone 
>>> help  improve this  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology  or 
>>> suggest other ways we can action happy birthday harrison -
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> warning the following is intentionally not for those who believe political 
>>> parties can solve urgent issues american youth need most,--apologies i 
>>> understand ;positivism is a hallmark of ost facilitation but i am just a 
>>> reporter of what concerns me:
>>> 
>>> while mailing does anyone know the people at Home - RootsCamp - every 2 
>>> years they run a 2000+ person open space which happens to have been running 
>>> in baltimore this weekend - a city where friends and  i have several deep 
>>> pro bono connections linked to the communities where thurgoodmarshall was 
>>> born and worked - if anyone is passing through 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -baltimore failed to get amazon hq2 but cristal city VA's piece of 
>>> washington DC succeeded- if anyone has ideas on how to stage in washington 
>>> dc region an open space that attracts all tech people who could app real 
>>> community stuff always like to discuss that chris.mac...@yahoo.co.uk  -in 
>>> other words is there a way to change dc from trump's least sustainable 
>>> capital in the world to something americans particularly women could 
>>> celebrate linking into?
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 92, Issue 5

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Hey there.  

I’m truly fine with the wikipedia article.  It’s not meant to be a user guide 
or a piece that validates a particular use of Open Space.  It pretty accurately 
describes the method and it’s history and points the reader to relevant links.  

If you want to create the ultimate bookmark to using open space in schools and 
youth hubs, then the invitation I suppose is the same I would make if we were 
in an open space meeting together: take responsibility for what you care about. 
 Go ahead and post it somewhere, link to it and let us all know where it is so 
that it can be found at http://openspaceworld.org/wp2/ 
 which is the highest level global website for 
the community of practice.  

If you want to edit the wikipedia page, you can go ahead and do that as well, 
but unlike Open Space, that will subject to the discussion and debate of a 
community of editors, and you don’t always get what you want there.  

Chris

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 8:49 AM, christopher macrae  
> wrote:
> 
> dear chris and friends - the current wikipedia starts open space like this
> 
> 
> Open Space Technology (OST) is a method for organizing and running a meeting 
> or multi-day conference, where participants have been invited in order to 
> focus on a specific, important task or purpose. OST is a participant-driven 
> process whose agenda is created by people attending. At the end of each OST 
> meeting, a document is created summarizing the work of the group. The OST 
> method is based upon work, beginning in the 1980s, by Owen Harrison. It was 
> one of the top ten organization development 
>  tools cited between 
> 2004 and 2013.Open Space Technology 
> 
> 
> what imo is wrong- on a quick read that millennials do
> the last sentence makes it sound as if open space is past  -"it was: ...
> 
> today pretty much every western city with youth in it has hubs that think 
> they do hackathons and open spaces but they have diluted (and have sponsors 
> vested interests)-
>  
> the average hub practice has lost what i feel makes open space system 
> transforming -often the resident hosts don't even know how much has been lost
> 
> I dont have the talents to be a great open space facilitator but ever since 
> first meeting harrison i have felt that the only way to save schools from the 
> livelihood destruction nightmare they have become in the west is to free 
> pre-adolescents with experience of real open space -once a child has 
> co-created in open space they can take that with them - the empowerment that 
> they can co-create, be community builders etc
> 
> I suppose whats on wikipedia is a lost game- what i would like is the 
> ultimate bookmark to carry on trying to get schools to free kids to host open 
> space
> 
> for reasons that may be peculiar to me my test of a perfect bookmark is can i 
> get chinese friends to understand it - fortunately harrison's open space 
> method is very well respected in china- ironically what we now need is the 
> chinese to translate open space practice (catalogue living examples they 
> scale across a fifth of the world's people) back into english ! -sorry just 
> my naughty cents worth from a washington dc that is pretty scarily closed in 
> 99% of policy meetings as well as schooling 
> 
> chris.mac...@yahoo.co.uk www.valuetrue.com  
> www.womenuni.com  
> 
> From: Chris Corrigan 
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
>  
> Cc: Kaarel Vaidla ; Bhavesh Patel 
> ; chris.mac...@yahoo.co.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2018, 11:17
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 92, Issue 5
> 
> I’m not clear on exactly what is wrong with the Wikipedia article. It seems 
> fine to me, such as it is. But I realize I’m not seeing what others are 
> seeing. 
> 
> Part of editing well is to identify specifics that need to be changed and 
> pointing to good sources that support the change. 
> 
> Are there particular thing s that stand out for you?
> 
> Chris. 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Invitation questions for alumni network

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Think about this network of people coming together.  What are the conversations 
you are dying to have?

Chris

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Thomas Perret via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I’m hosting an open space for a network of scholarship alumni, with very 
> interesting people from the diverse fields of entrepreneurship, farming, 
> musical arts and science.
> 
> Considering the potential of this network (of more than 200 people of ages ~ 
> 22-60) I’m intrigued with what may come out of it with peer initiative. I’m 
> now in front of crafting an invitation and am pondering what question/s could 
> inspire first-timers to attend. We had an open space for the first time last 
> year too and pretty much everyone who attended liked it. Still, most of the 
> folks are yet to experience os. 
> 
> Will you tell me what comes up for you?
> 
> Gratefully,
> Thomas
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Re: [OSList] Report From The Field

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Probe-Sense-Respond, actually. At least for complex problems. 

Cynefin is actually a decision making framework that points to the kinds of 
ways of showing up depending on the type of problem you’re facing. 

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> On Jan 9, 2019, at 11:03 AM, john watkins via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> As Dave Snowden says, in his Cynefin framework, in complex spaces, the 
> leader’s role is to “probe, categorize, and respond (and practice is 
> emergent);” whereas, in the chaotic space, the work is to “act, sense, and 
> respond (and practice is always novel).” Probing can often be a “safe to fail 
> experiment.” It would seem that, even in a space where the broader political 
> leadership is as negative as we are experiencing now, within our own 
> contexts, we must still build pioneering communities, to use Margaret 
> Wheatley’s phrase, and open space seems ideally suited to both the response 
> to complexity and the response to chaos, to help with that co-construction…
> 
> John W.
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mark may be odd (I plead Guilty too) – but he does speak from a place of 
>> practical engagement. Otherwise known as, “in the trenches.” Not always 
>> pretty, but definitely where the rubber meets the road…
>>  
>> “Chaos is alive and well and now, fed by resistance, is a different animal 
>> for facilitators as ill intent looms large. If one's goal as leader is to 
>> obstruct, defame, ridicule, and act to prevent progress of any kind so as to 
>> counter any credibility for your co-leaders, then it is impossible.  That is 
>> America today and it makes honest attempts at system improvement challenging 
>> to say the least. In any organization the leadership MUST embrace the power 
>> of collaboration and system improvement.  There are a lot of really well run 
>> governments where the honest leaders seek to inspire positive improvements, 
>> continuously.  In the great USofA we have a significant leadership crisis 
>> where mutually assured self destruction is taking place.”
>> (Mark Carmel – quoted without permission)
>>  
>> I would guess that we need to keep opening space – wherever, however, about 
>> whatever… but we sure need some breathing room. The details of “solution” 
>> are more than any of us can provide, or even contemplate. But we do know how 
>> to establish the space in which serious, productive conversations can take 
>> place. And that “conversation” is going to be a big one. Last count… 
>> something around 8 billion participants. Odd, wild, weird? For sure. But we 
>> do have the means. Will we find the will and the way? Stay tuned!
>>  
>> ho
>>  
>>  
>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Barry Owen via OSList
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 8:46 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Cc: Barry Owen; Mark Carmel
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Report From The Field
>>  
>> Marai thank you for the offering of this video.
>>  
>> It mirrors many of the thoughts swimming around in my head about the 
>> seemingly incessant "need" for many people to resist and fight when what's 
>> most useful is the Opening of more space.
>>  
>> If only a sliver of the energy expended on this "warring" over anything and 
>> everything imaginable were to be directed towards more intentional human to 
>> human contact, this world be a kinder, gentler, and more forgiving world.
>>  
>> As I witness so many layers of human ugliness manifesting all around us, my 
>> thoughts always shift to a mantra I've heard from Harrison Owen for years:
>>  
>> Just keep on opening space!
>>  
>> b
>>   
>> Barry Owen
>> Real Estate Strategist
>> CEO/Principal Broker
>> Pareto Realty, LLC \pə-ˈrā-(ˌ)tō\
>> The Vital Few
>> 4004 Hillsboro Pike Ste 234-B
>> Nashville, TN 37215 
>> Office: 615-502-2080
>> Connect: 615-568-2123
>> BarryOwen.US
>> WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
>>  
>>  
>> Inviter - Facilitator/Practicer of Open Space Technology 
>> Opening & Holding safe space for people and organizations to self-organize 
>> around important issues and opportunities. 
>> Invite - Listen - Love
>> Pareto Realty is a residential real estate sales firm that supports member 
>> agents in building and growing consistently productive niche businesses as 
>> they enjoy the healthy life rhythm they want and deserve.
>>  
>>  
>>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:31 PM Marai Kiele via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Dear Mark,
>>>  
>>> I appreciate your flow of energy and appreciation, both for OST and 
>>> Harrison! 
>>> I am fascinated, hearing about the „at that time“ largest educational 
>>> transformation group and I honour you as someone who has walked the trails 
>>> of OST before me.
>>>  
>>> At the same time, I notice my resentment in regard to this part of your 
>>> sharing: 
>>>  
>>> "beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs“ 
>>> and"fortify oneself against the 

Re: [OSList] Feedback Requested on OST Invitation

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

This is a lovely, simple, and to the point invitation Jake.  Thumbs up from me.

Chris

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I've composed my first OST invitation and would love your feedback. I 
> reproduced the invitation below. It will be included in a calendar invite 
> that will have the date and time.
> 
> Thanks ahead of time for any comments!
> 
> All the best,
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
> Co-Create our Team’s Future?
>  
> Our team’s purpose is to ensure that Navy Federal’s Lending division takes 
> prudent risk and maximizes profitability, all while upholding a preeminent 
> member experience. This is no small feat: challenges arise that require that 
> we stretch ourselves to innovate, to break new ground, to open new horizons. 
> Recent challenges include CECL, AnyLogic simulation, SRM Mission and 
> Automation, and credit card optimization. We surmount these challenges 
> because we collaborate to share our knowledge; because we ask tough, 
> insightful questions; and because we push ourselves to grow and achieve 
> excellence.
>  
> But there are always intractable issues that cause headaches, and there are 
> opportunities that wither for lack of time or attention. What are the  issues 
> that our team faces, and how can we solve them? What are the opportunities 
> that lie before us, and how can we maximize them? How can we co-create our 
> future to work more seamlessly, to be more agile and innovative, and to 
> enhance our well-being? What does that look like, and how can we get there?
>  
> I invite you to an Open Space in order to explore these questions. Open Space 
> is a highly participatory process that has been successfully employed in 
> multiple situations all over the world. Our Open Space will be via WebEx, so 
> that all team members can participate together if they want.
>  
> This first gathering will kick off our Open Space. Here is a schedule:
>  
> 1:00 – 2:00pm ETOpening
> 2:00 – 3:00pm ETSession I
>  
> After the kickoff, we will have a dedicated Open Space session each month. 
> However, you are welcome to hold sessions outside of that time slot. It’s 
> really up to you: your passion and responsibility drives this process.
>  
> I can assure you that by the end of our Open Space:
>  
> 1.Every issue of concern to anybody will have been raised, if they took 
> responsibility for doing that.
> 2.All issues will have received full discussion, to the extent desired.
> 3.A full report of issues and discussions will be in the hands of all 
> participants.
> 4.Action plans will be made and priorities set.
>  
> Hope to see you there!
>  
> All the best,
> Jake
> 
> 
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> will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

“The punishment for not sharing learning is severe...” and atonement available 
through glasses of beer is an excellent rule for a community of practice!

Chris

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> On Apr 11, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Jake,
> 
> seasoned hands who have the suggestion in mind to have a close look for one 
> thing they can do without at their next try (each os event remains an 
> experiment) have come up with many things they no longer do.
> 
> For someone new at this, the suggestion is to do it by the book the first few 
> times and read the entire book before each new event... and then get into the 
> mode of "one thing less to do".
> 
> And when that happens, this is another Law if you like, the variation or 
> other learning needs to get into the big pool since ost has become something 
> we all are adapting, improving, shortening, etc.
> 
> The punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a free 
> glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... you should 
> have come up with your insight a long time ago.
> 
> Good luck
> mmp
> 
>> Am 11.04.2019 um 01:49 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
>> Thanks everyone for your input!
>> Juliane--it's a one-day OS.
>> I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined session slots. 
>> For the OS I am facilitating, I am basing the design on HO's User Guide.
>> What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants handle 
>> time and, I assume, space management?
>> Thanks!
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>> 
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>> will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the field of experience and practice

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Harold. 

Over many hundreds of open spaces I’ve hosted, this is not a problem I have 
ever encountered. That’s not to say it hasn’t happened. Almost everything you 
can imagine happening in an open space has happened in the ones I have done!

But that isn’t what I choose to give my attention too. Introverts and 
extroverts are very good at managing in the world without my help: they have 
been doing it their whole lives. It isn’t my place to say whether they should 
or should not do a certain thing or be a certain way. 

I find that people are generally able to work it all out. Not everyone leaves 
happy, but not everyone leaves sad either. 

The more I find small things to manage in then open space, the more small thing 
compete for my attention. And the more I split my attention the worse I become 
at holding the space, which is the unique role I am there to do. 

Harrison said once “don’t trust the process, trust the people.”  I do. I trust 
them deeply. 

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> On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Michael,
> 
> This inquiry inspires me to write something. Thank you Michael!
> 
> I cheer on your reminder that sharing our learning is a Law. Harrison Owen 
> did not license, patent, or copyright Open Space Technology. But it was 
> gifted with the requirement we sharing our learning. Maybe no Government can 
> enforce this Law. Yet perhaps it's reality is even more REAL than most laws 
> that governments can enforce.
> 
> As for breaks, this has been something that has bothered me. Many groups that 
> I have helped or participated with strenuously wanted formal breaks between 
> the breakouts. I'd prefer to trust people to take care of themselves. And yet 
> maybe when a group that self-organizes their own Open Space event force in 
> not only end times, but also break times, I've seen it can help people give 
> themselves some space.
> 
> But I'm curious how you and others help people give respect to those who 
> schedule sessions. Very often I find that extroverts and assertive people 
> just hold onto their space and the more introverted and reserved wait 
> patiently for the space to vacate. I like to ask people to respect the groups 
> that follow to find another space. And so very frequently, groups (especially 
> larger ones), will not find another space even though "it's not over", at 
> least from what I could see.
> 
> Very eager to hear your thoughts, and those of others, on their experience of 
> End-Times, No-End-Times, Formal Breaks between sessions, etc. etc.
> 
> Thanks!
> Harold
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:54 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
>> 
>> lonely souls!
>> Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
>> 
>> Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space 
>> technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the 
>> spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably 
>> will never be.
>> Here are some of my details:
>> 
>> --- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30 Break
>> 
>> --- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and 
>> in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts 
>> of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
>> 
>> --- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a 
>> permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the 
>> closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable 
>> sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks 
>> after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from 
>> 11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a 
>> hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30 
>> to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small pieces
>> 
>> --- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there is 
>> a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day 
>> (I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to 
>> hear more details, stories with this approach)
>> 
>> Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as 
>> you might have heard, is a Law)
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>> 
>> >>
>> > 
>> > Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular 
>> > flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (“At a certain 
>> > time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free to 
>> > partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you’re doing.”) My 
>> > experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that it 
>> > will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them nervous. 
>> > By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it 

Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the field of experience and practice

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Sure. And some are just sad right now and will be happier later. 

Bottom line, is that they have lived their entire lives with their own 
emotional landscape. If they come to an Open Space I am running I expect they 
will keep on living. 

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> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> And Chris… you might add that some people are never happy. They are, 
> professionally, sad sacks. Apparently they enjoy the status intensely, and 
> for sure Open Space won’t change them. At least I never hold out much hope, 
> nor indeed waste much worry time. Another thing to let go of J
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Corrigan via OSList
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:09 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Chris Corrigan; Michael M Pannwitz
> Subject: Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the 
> field of experience and practice
>  
> Harold. 
>  
> Over many hundreds of open spaces I’ve hosted, this is not a problem I have 
> ever encountered. That’s not to say it hasn’t happened. Almost everything you 
> can imagine happening in an open space has happened in the ones I have done!
>  
> But that isn’t what I choose to give my attention too. Introverts and 
> extroverts are very good at managing in the world without my help: they have 
> been doing it their whole lives. It isn’t my place to say whether they should 
> or should not do a certain thing or be a certain way. 
>  
> I find that people are generally able to work it all out. Not everyone leaves 
> happy, but not everyone leaves sad either. 
>  
> The more I find small things to manage in then open space, the more small 
> thing compete for my attention. And the more I split my attention the worse I 
> become at holding the space, which is the unique role I am there to do. 
>  
> Harrison said once “don’t trust the process, trust the people.”  I do. I 
> trust them deeply. 
>  
> Chris. 
> 
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> www.chriscorrigan.com
> 
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Michael,
>  
> This inquiry inspires me to write something. Thank you Michael!
>  
> I cheer on your reminder that sharing our learning is a Law. Harrison Owen 
> did not license, patent, or copyright Open Space Technology. But it was 
> gifted with the requirement we sharing our learning. Maybe no Government can 
> enforce this Law. Yet perhaps it's reality is even more REAL than most laws 
> that governments can enforce.
>  
> As for breaks, this has been something that has bothered me. Many groups that 
> I have helped or participated with strenuously wanted formal breaks between 
> the breakouts. I'd prefer to trust people to take care of themselves. And yet 
> maybe when a group that self-organizes their own Open Space event force in 
> not only end times, but also break times, I've seen it can help people give 
> themselves some space.
>  
> But I'm curious how you and others help people give respect to those who 
> schedule sessions. Very often I find that extroverts and assertive people 
> just hold onto their space and the more introverted and reserved wait 
> patiently for the space to vacate. I like to ask people to respect the groups 
> that follow to find another space. And so very frequently, groups (especially 
> larger ones), will not find another space even though "it's not over", at 
> least from what I could see.
>  
> Very eager to hear your thoughts, and those of others, on their experience of 
> End-Times, No-End-Times, Formal Breaks between sessions, etc. etc.
>  
> Thanks!
> Harold
>  
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:54 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
> 
> lonely souls!
> Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
> 
> Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space 
> technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the 
> spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably 
> will never be.
> Here are some of my details:
> 
> --- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30 Break
> 
> --- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and 
> in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts 
> of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
> 
> --- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a 
> permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first &quo

Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 97, Issue 13

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

On this page I have a basic outline for the script I use, plus a video of me 
doing it:

http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/open-space-resources/ 


Chris

> On May 15, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is right Harrison Owen it IS in the book.  THE Bible  Of cooperation 
> communication and collaboration the highest life forms of the human spirit. 
> When I set the world record you know open space in 1993 for convening the 
> largest conference in the world at that time of 700 people I was scared to 
> death and I followed The Bible. Now 26 years later  Segments of our community 
> school system have been transformed  Significantly for the better with 
> incredible success stories by the people who acted to step up and take 
> responsibility.   One of the problems in our world right now is people are so 
> distracted they don't  Listen or try to understand. It's in the book. 
> 
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>2. Re: Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time Slots?
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> 
> --
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:39:33 +0200
> From: Anna Caroline T?rk  >
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>  >
> Cc: Jake Yeager mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>, 
> Michael Herman
> mailto:mich...@michaelherman.com>>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time
> Slots?
> Message-ID:  >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> You can also go to the resource page on boscop.org  and 
> listen to an audio of Jo T?pfer. 
> 
> Enjoy! 
> Anna Caroline 
> 
> Anna Caroline T?rk
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> 
> > On 14. May 2019, at 22:17, Michael Herman via OSList 
> > mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > congrats on the first opening, jake.  there's a sample opening script in my 
> > training and practice guide.  i crafted that from the user's guide in 1996 
> > and have annotated it along the way.  
> > https://www.michaelherman.com/publications/inviting_leadership_guide.pdf 
> >   
> > ...see page 44.
> >  
> > michael
> > 
> > --
> > 
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> > Michael Herman Associates
> > 312-280-7838 (mobile)
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> > http://MichaelHerman.com 
> > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM Jake Yeager via OSList 
> >> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> >> wrote:
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> 
> >> Does anyone have a sample opening script for an Open Space without time 
> >> slots?
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> All the best,
> >> Jake
> >> 
> >> 
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> >> you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 97, Issue 13

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Wow. Boise. What prompted that move?

C

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> On May 16, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Mark,
> 
> I assume that its not distraction that prevents people from listening.
> My observation is that the reaction time to stuff we hear or observe is so 
> short that it can not come from the active brain. Its mostly a reflex, 
> sometimes deeply conditioned, that triggers the inactive brain to suggest an 
> answer at the speed of light (at least much faster than we can think). One 
> might get some control over this mindless, thoughtless reflexive mode by  
> consciously counting to three (slowly), about the time needed for the active 
> mind to come up with something other than a reflex which is not chosen by the 
> active brain, but forced upon us.
> 
> have a great day
> mmp
> 
>> Am 16.05.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList:
>> That is right Harrison Owen it IS in the book.  THE Bible  Of cooperation 
>> communication and collaboration the highest life forms of the human spirit. 
>> When I set the world record you know open space in 1993 for convening the 
>> largest conference in the world at that time of 700 people I was scared to 
>> death and I followed The Bible. Now 26 years later  Segments of our 
>> community school system have been transformed  Significantly for the better 
>> with incredible success stories by the people who acted to step up and take 
>> responsibility.   One of the problems in our world right now is people are 
>> so distracted they don't  Listen or try to understand. It's in the book.
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019, 2:57 PM > > wrote:
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>>1. Re: Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time Slots?
>>   (Anna Caroline T?rk)
>>2. Re: Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time Slots?
>>   (Harrison Owen)
>>--
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:39:33 +0200
>>From: Anna Caroline T?rk >>
>>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> >>
>>Cc: Jake Yeager >>, Michael Herman
>> mailto:mich...@michaelherman.com>>
>>Subject: Re: [OSList] Sample Opening Script for Open Space w/o Time
>> Slots?
>>Message-ID: >>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>You can also go to the resource page on boscop.org
>> and listen to an audio of Jo T?pfer.
>>Enjoy!
>>Anna Caroline
>>Anna Caroline T?rk
>>+ 49 (0) 176 248 72254
>>Skype: AnnaCarolineTuerk
>>www.TruthCircles.com 
>> > On 14. May 2019, at 22:17, Michael Herman via OSList
>>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > congrats on the first opening, jake.  there's a sample opening
>>script in my training and practice guide.  i crafted that from the
>>user's guide in 1996 and have annotated it along the way.
>>https://www.michaelherman.com/publications/inviting_leadership_guide.pdf  
>>...see page 44.
>> >
>> > michael
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Michael Herman
>> > Michael Herman Associates
>> > 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>> >
>> > http://MichaelHerman.com
>> > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM Jake Yeager via OSList
>>>> wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have a sample opening script for an Open Space
>>without time slots?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> All the best,
>> >> Jake
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
>>again, and you will be free of problems.
>> >>  - Robert Adams
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Re: [OSList] Who Opens the Space?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Inspired by Dee Hock, these days maybe I’ll say that the space is always 
infinitely open and as a host of an Open Space Technology meeting, my job is to 
work with sponsors and participants close it down in a way that allows for good 
work to be done. I use the boundaries of time and space, and the attractors of 
invitation and intention to create a smaller space to do things.  Creating a 
smaller container is the art of holding space and it takes a bit of experience 
and wisdom to learn how to make the space not too big or too small.  

Chris

> On May 17, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Jan Hoglund via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here's a story about when the group itself opens its own space...
> 
> It's an excerpt from Dee Hock's book One from Many, pp. 205-207 (Kindle 
> edition).
> 
> "Three hours into the morning, an agenda for the remainder of the three-day 
> meeting was proposed. It contained nothing about the failed effort at 
> reorganization other than a brief report at the end of the final day. An 
> annoyed murmur swept the room. A member rose and angrily complained. ... A 
> chorus of “Hear, hear,” “Absolutely,”“ Right on,” immediately arose. ... The 
> hum of discontent grew louder. The chairman of the international committee 
> rose to offer his version of the situation and induce the members to accept 
> the proposed agenda, as did another member of the committee. ... The murmur 
> of discontent grew louder. ... Efforts to continue the proposed agenda 
> collapsed, as members demanded time to meet privately with one another and 
> discuss the situation with their representatives on the organizing committee. 
> ... The agenda was resumed the second day, but few paid any attention to it. 
> Self-organizing discussions continued. By the end of the second day, several 
> people had gracefully withdrawn from the international organizing committee 
> with profuse thanks for their hard work. Others had been appointed. The 
> chairman had withdrawn “to allow others an opportunity to serve.” In the late 
> afternoon of the third day, the newly constituted committee met, firmly 
> committed themselves to a renewed effort, and asked if we would resume our 
> efforts as organizing agent. We agreed, providing only that henceforth all 
> differences should be open, honest, and constructive. All agreed that was as 
> it should be, and from then on, with minor exceptions, so it was. By the end 
> of the meeting, no one had lost face, all those who had served were honored 
> for their efforts, no more was said of the past, and everyone’s energy turned 
> to the future."
> 
> /Jan Höglund, Sweden
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or was 
it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him based on a 
Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I still 
have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I rehearsed it with 
Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  

I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was killed 
in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  

I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from Turkey 
and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi Birk) at 
Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  

Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX which 
I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was great 
conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking every 
night!

Chris


> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV at 
> the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  > wrote:
> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet back 
> then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv instead 
> of a website based conversation? 
> 
> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
> 
> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" 
> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in Colorado 
> '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the limit of 
> my memory :)
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of year 
> -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that you 
> use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you will 
> find the collective ruminations. 
> 
> Harrison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marai Kiele via OSList  >
> To: ost list international  >
> Cc: Marai Kiele  >
> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
> book.
> 
> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
> became obvious to the group).
> 
> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
> like:
> 
> - How many participants were we?
> - From approximately how many countries?
> 
> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
> 
> - Since when does WOSonOS exist?
> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
> this year?
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> Marai
> 
> https://about.me/maraikiele 
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I have to admit my memory is light on those details. I think from my 
perspective I was facilitating a circle. And I do remember personally at some 
point that Moscow seemed like a clear choice. It just shimmered I to being. 

I also remember that I think we deeply entrusted the next Wosonos to the Moscow 
deep, and there is a bit of a sacred trust in taking responsibility for this 
gathering.  

Chris

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> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
> I smile, reading your description.
> 
> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
> that in my story.
> 
> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
> talking object and spoke up.
> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
> 
> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
> belong to the community, in some way or another?
> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
> perspective in themselves?
> 
> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
> group:
> Moscow / Russia.
> 
> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
> 
> Marai 
> 
> 
>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
>> :
>> 
>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>> 
>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
>> experience. 
>> 
>> Peggy
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or 
>>> was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him 
>>> based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and 
>>> see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I 
>>> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
>>> 
>>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
>>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
>>> 
>>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
>>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with 
>>> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
>>> 
>>> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
>>> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
>>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was 
>>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and 
>>> drinking every night!
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
>>>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV 
>>>> at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> San Francisco
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken  wrote:
>>>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
>>>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
>>>>> instead of a website based conversation? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization 
>>>>> Transformation" taking place each July in different location

Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I strongly agree with Koos.  

No.  

Chris Corrigan.

> On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Koos de Heer via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> No thanks. I suggest you scan the archive of this list at 
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/ 
>  to find 
> out why. There are over 1,000 matches on “certified” or “certification.” No 
> use repeating this discussion over and over again.
>  
> Van: OSList  Namens Mark Carmel via 
> OSList
> Verzonden: donderdag 1 augustus 2019 21:36
> Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
> 
> CC: Mark Carmel 
> Onderwerp: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY 
> with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and 
> certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to become CERTIFIED OPEN 
> SPACE TECHNOLOGISTS???
>  
> Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists,
>  
> ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.  
>  
> Here is the question:  Are you IN or out?
>  
> Mark Carmel
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Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Yessir.  

One of my favourite stories was working with a local health board to do just 
that.  There was lots in their annual plan that had already been decided but 
there were several areas of emerging strategy that needed to be looked at 
including labour relations, policy development, Human Resources and something 
else.  

We prepared the news wall with these four categories as sections, and then 
another section called “other"

We opened space with the board and staff of the organization and the sponsor 
said :you can have any conversation you like, but if you want ideas included in 
the strategic plan, please place your summaries of discussion in the right 
buckets.

We met for a day, and the news wall categories all got populated.  

On day two, we cam back and the reports were all typed up by category.  In each 
corner of the room we had one of the four categories.  Folks were invited to go 
to anyone of the categories, review the summary of discussions from the day 
before and make some sense of it, coming up with a set of recommendations that 
should be incoorporated into the strategic plan.  They knew that the Board 
would have the final say over what went into the plan, but Board members were 
also in these discussions.  Law of Two Feet applied.  

Spent the whole morning in these discussions, finished with each of the four 
groups reporting on their recommendations.  As I recall the Board didn’t do 
much alteration of what was created.

The “other” category consisted of a couple of reports from sessions where there 
staff were just thinking about ways to improve the workplace culture.  It was 
easy for the Executive Director to later sit down with the convenors of those 
sessions to discuss supporting their leadership on some of the ideas.  

Was a great design and one I haven’t had the chance to repeat all that often, 
because most organizations think that strategic planning needs to be a lot more 
controlled than that.

Chris

> On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision statement or 
> 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any recommendations?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Much love as always,
> Jake
> 
> P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> 
> 
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> will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity, right? 
And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic blending of 
Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering through 
incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for most of the 
last 1700 years?

And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.  

Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It does not want 
or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open space.  
It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t actually 
opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care what your 
credentials are.  The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were 
facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared about the 
participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took nothing for 
granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and others.  Some of these 
people were 14 years old. 

Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have ever 
met, too, for the same reasons. 

Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how I 
learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you. Resist 
the devilish temptation to build an empire.

Chris





> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that from 
> the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space 
> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world 
> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who 
> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice 
> fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. 
> Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title and 
> otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given 
> titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of executives and with 
> the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes 
> sense to put some structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters from 
> apprentice  to Master to mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES 
> and STRATEGY, why is it that we facilitators want to apply that same 
> organizational structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the 
> same for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our vision...to hope 
> the world magically organizes around OST... or to make it happen through a 
> viable 1,000 year vision.  In his great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is 
> spot on to define OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the 
> Spirit.  We must not be naive to believe that leaders will not crush the 
> Spirit once it emerges in Open Space. This requires highly advanced training 
> to be able to navigate the process over decades of implementation.  ALL great 
> decisions require great leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope 
> this idea will be considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do 
> it or it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a 
> new religion of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be 
> created kinda like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples. 
> Peace,
> Mark Carmel
> 
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>4. Re: OST for Mission/Vision

Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Inspired by Harrison’s reflections here, I’ll offer one final thought on this 
thread, and then I’m out.  This is a well known story that is often used to 
apply to gossip, but I believe can be applied to the folly of trying to capture 
and encase what Harrison and and few thousand other people have let loose on 
the world:

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/812861/jewish/A-Pillow-Full-of-Feathers.htm
 


Enjoy.  I love a good parable.  

Chris

> On Aug 14, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I beg to differ. As one who has been in the Open Space game as long 
> as anyone, I suppose – the whole possibility of certification (or whatever, 
> by which ever name) is a) oxymoronic, b) technically dubious (I can’t imagine 
> how you would actually do it), and strategically a bad play. 
> Teaching/certifying Open Space is rather like certifying breathing … a 
> natural activity which comes with our existence. It is true that some people 
> learn to do it (breathing) better … Olympic Athletes for example … but it 
> really is a natural act. Opening space is a natural act. Some do it better 
> than others … but it is what we do. Creating a Certification program for 
> enabling that boggles my mind. Right up there with creating a “certification 
> program” for being “human.”  B) Technically dubious… Every situation is so 
> contextually defined that any criteria for performance (certification) would 
> be so limited as to be not useful. Translated that would mean something like 
> – would Open Space Certification guarantee that the individual would work 
> with equal effectiveness with Afghanis and North American White Supremacists? 
> I doubt that, and more than that… it all seems to happen very naturally all 
> by itself, has for a number of years … (with absolutely NO Program, OST is 
> now a worldwide phenomenon). C) Strategically a bad play… Fact is, OST is the 
> control oriented, certification aficionada, managers -- worst nightmare.  If 
> it actually did what 30+ years of global experience seems to demonstrate that 
> it does… Much if not all of what currently is the “lode star” of managerial 
> competence, “CONTROL” … Never happened. But we can’t let that secret out. 
> Blow our cover! However, if you quietly open space wherever, whenever, 
> however, about what ever… as often as you can – Magic does seem to happen. 
> And the truth is ( my truth) is that anybody can do it. 
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> David Osborne via OSList
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:33 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: David Osborne; Mark Carmel
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this 
> conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
>  
> Great thoughtful post Mark. Thanks for stimulating my thinking, reflection 
> and imagination. 
>  
> David
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
>> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
>> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
>> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
>> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that 
>> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
>> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space 
>> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world 
>> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who 
>> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice 
>> fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. 
>> Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title and 
>> otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given 
>> titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of executives and with 
>> the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes 
>> sense to put some structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters 
>> from apprentice  to Master to mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and 
>> VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that we facilitators want to apply that same 
>> organizational structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the 
>> same for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our vision...to 
>> hope the world magically organizes around OST... or to make it happen 
>> through a viable 1,000 year vision.  In his great book, Leadership Is,  
>> Harrison is spot on to define OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a 
>> caretaker of the Spir

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Whenever I want to know if my work of Hosting an Open Space Technology meeting 
was useful, I give the participants a form that sinplay says “complete the 
following sentence. As a result of this meeting...”

The only people who should be judging the efficacy of an OST meeting are the 
people who called it in the first place to get their work done. In my 
experience, they are happy if the meeting has helped them. 

My work is always directed towards client needs. Some times we do Open Space. 
Sometimes we do it in a way that would drive a “by the book” person crazy. But 
it’s about the clients. I doubt there is a way my process could be formalized 
in a way that works better for my clients than sitting down and listening to 
their needs. 

There is already a network of Open Space Institutes who steward this practice. 
There is an international association of facilitators who can join if you want 
certification. 

I find myself constantly wanting to defend this radical openness. Mark, what is 
behind your string desire for something more formal than what we already have?

Chris. 


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> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea for 
> certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was 
> something that did not  Resonate well.
> 
> Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation of 
> peace and human understanding. It is such a powerful and simple tool but 
> highly complex. As Harrison says..  chaos plows the fields of the mind so 
> that new ideas can grow... I think there is ample chaos for us to tackle 
> right now.
> 
> I think it is highly important for the leadership of our open space world to 
> make a decision now while we still have Harrison among us as a living spirit. 
> Because we have already set the standards why not cement the standards and 
> turn it into an everlasting association that could be organized to deliver 
> training, etc. To advance the mission of human peace and understanding in a 
> more organized way?
> 
> If you want to be a beautician or a mechanic or a rocket scientist or a city 
> manager there are associations for that .
> 
> Why not an association for open space technology practitioners to define the 
> standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has already 
> articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized and stay 
> organized until we get the job done?
> 
> Respectfully submitted,
> Mark Carmel
> 
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Re: [OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’ll offer my thoughts on this question through this link:

http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-tao-of-holding-space/

There you will find links to the Tao of Holding Space in English and Chinese.

Chris

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two 
> other emails:
> 
>   Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being “totally present and 
> absolutely invisible”
> 
>   Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present, respectfully 
> absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.
> 
> I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me to 
> (once again) wonder: 
> 
>   What does holding space involve… 
>  for me?
>  for you?
> 
> I invite an exploration of this question further down.
> With a little nudge into a new direction.
> 
> Before…
> 
> 
>   ***
> 
> 
> …a side note on conversations on this list:
> 
> Part of my personal „Practice of Peace“ (which is the name of the first book 
> by Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves having as 
> little „who is right -who is wrong“ conversations as possible. My preference 
> is exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that by the 
> language I use.
> 
> Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language 
> . Which I understand as a way of 
> speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I 
> imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how 
> something „is“ but just how it is „for me“. (For those interested in 
> exploring this take on language, also check out E-Prime 
> .) 
> 
> Speaking not in „this is how it IS“ but in „this is what I PERCEIVE“ is so 
> unusual in our cultural—hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this 
> habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself 
> hopeful with acknowledging my progress!
> 
> The setup of OST doesn’t include „who is right - who is wrong?" Instead OST 
> invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to them. 
> Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.
> 
> If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of 
> diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through our 
> individual lenses.
> 
> 
>   ***
> 
> 
> Back to my invitation:
> 
> This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
> So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:
> 
>   * What does holding space involve... for me personally?
> 
>   Let’s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via music, 
> painting or…
>   And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
>   I’ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)
>   
>   * Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a 
> 1-time-event (like an annual conference) 
>   compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational 
> transformation? 
>   If so, in which way?
> 
>   I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are into 
> organisational transformation.
> 
>   ***
> 
> And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who 
> 
>   - think globally
>   - see themselves as leaders of some kind
>   - and appreciate a space for emergence:
> 
> The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 / Oct 
> 9...
> To whomever that is interesting, check it out here 
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Marai
> 
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Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

erywhere is 
> consulting. Huge consulting firms work with/for/ect. huge businesses, 
> governments, NGOs. Millions of folks work in that field helping them to 
> become better, faster, etc. in the business they are involved in.
> 
> Now, is ost something that consulting firms are into?
> 
> There are some forms of "systems" such as neighborhoods, circles of 
> friends, collegial counselling groups, OSonOS (local, regional, 
> worldwide), people playing soccer with a tin can on a vacant lot, 
> families, demonstrations (HongKong, Fridays for Future...), Stammtische...
> I smile in such settings, happy myself, grow myself... in such 
> "settings" and also frustrate myself now and then. Especially when 
> "control" enters the stage.
> And at some point many such "systems" or "settings" ossify when they 
> take on the form of "organisations". In other words, the devil takes over.
> Some of us smell that when it approaches and say "no". And move on or 
> drop out or fight or...
> 
> Ok, this is stuff that comes up when I look at my "assumption" regarding 
> "organisation".
> 
> I would like to hear more about your "assumptions" that come up when 
> "organisation" enters your mind.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> Am 20.08.2019 um 00:04 schrieb R Chaffe via OSList:
> > Chris,
> > I look forward to Mark’s reply to your question.  It seems to me that that 
> > the question mixes up the who and the what.  Mark uses a few examples 
> > including a mechanic, the first question I have is what experience the 
> > trade person has my second is an example of their work.  OST is at one 
> > level about the “how” the job is done and I think that is one level the 
> > question comes from.  Being able to Open Space and engage effectively with 
> > the sponsor and the community of concern is an other level again.
> > 
> > There is a level of trust between the sponsor and the facilitator that the 
> > result the sponsor wants will be delivered.  The sponsor might ask how did 
> > you do that? I suggest that they are more interested on what you as 
> > facilitator delivered based on the contract.
> > 
> > In many ways focusing on the how is counter productive the “what” is the 
> > thing that pays the bills and builds reputations.
> > 
> > If my thinking is correct the struggle is to define a professional 
> > facilitator who can deliver is the issue not what tools they use when it 
> > comes to a contract.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Rob
> > 
> >> On 20 Aug 2019, at 2:31 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Whenever I want to know if my work of Hosting an Open Space Technology 
> >> meeting was useful, I give the participants a form that sinplay says 
> >> “complete the following sentence. As a result of this meeting...”
> >>
> >> The only people who should be judging the efficacy of an OST meeting are 
> >> the people who called it in the first place to get their work done. In my 
> >> experience, they are happy if the meeting has helped them.
> >>
> >> My work is always directed towards client needs. Some times we do Open 
> >> Space. Sometimes we do it in a way that would drive a “by the book” person 
> >> crazy. But it’s about the clients. I doubt there is a way my process could 
> >> be formalized in a way that works better for my clients than sitting down 
> >> and listening to their needs.
> >>
> >> There is already a network of Open Space Institutes who steward this 
> >> practice. There is an international association of facilitators who can 
> >> join if you want certification.
> >>
> >> I find myself constantly wanting to defend this radical openness. Mark, 
> >> what is behind your string desire for something more formal than what we 
> >> already have?
> >>
> >> Chris.
> >>
> >>
> >> _
> >> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> >> www.chriscorrigan.com
> >>
> >>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea for 
> >>> certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was 
> >>> something that did not  Resonate well.
> >>>
> >>> Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation 
> >>> of peace and human 

Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 101, Issue 5

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Last week in a little Open Space that has two participants in wheelchairs, we 
said, when describing the law of mobility: if you aren’t in a place where you 
are learning or contributing feel free to walk or roll somewhere where you can. 

The whole Walk and Roll angle was fun. 

Chris. 

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> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Turns out wheel chairs can be an advantage… People get out of the way, and if 
> your good on two wheels, you can go like hell. I have a nephew who has never 
> walked because nothing works below his waist. But that has never slowed him 
> down. He makes films and has some marvelous shots from Kabul – racing down  
> the street. Yes … that’s Afghanistan. Folks who are differently abled have 
> spent a lifetime developing alternative competences. Don’t worry about them. 
> Just treat them like everybody else and they will do fine. Or not – but their 
> difficulty will have little to do with being in a wheel chair.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Bhavesh Patel via OSList
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Bhavesh Patel; anne stadler
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 101, Issue 5
>  
> Might be running something next month for a number of people who will be in 
> wheelchairs... so playing with...
>  
> The Law Of Mobility - If you find yourself in a situation which you are not 
> contributing to or learning from, then you can always choose to go to another 
> place more useful for you...
>  
>  
>  
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 18:18, anne stadler via OSList 
>  wrote:
> Oops. Left out a word in my earlier statement. This is what I really mean: 
> Stand up for, and move to wherever you can act on what you love & care about. 
> If you find you’re not contributing there, use your two feet to move on.
>  
>  
>  
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:00 PM anne stadler  wrote:
> Law of Two feet:
> Stand up and move to wherever you can act on what you love & care about.  If 
> you find you’re not contributing there, use your two feet to move on.
>  
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:54 PM  
> wrote:
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> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:28:10 + (UTC)
> From: Harrison Owen 
> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] about Law of Two Feet
> Message-ID: <1097897169.4356434.1568320090...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Turns out Feet beat Brains almost every time. Thinking about something is 
> definitely worth while. BUT. Moving the feet is a sure sign of action. 
> Anything else is "just thinking about it." I always go with the feet! Seuss 
> was a great pundit! And even he understood that nothing has really happened 
> until you take a step in a new direction.
> ho
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robin Muretisch, Facilitative Insights, LLC via OSList 
> 
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
> 
> Cc: Robin Muretisch, Facilitative Insights, LLC 
> Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2019 3:14 pm
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Re: [OSList] Back to OSLIST

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Welcome back Artie!

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> On Sep 27, 2019, at 4:48 AM, Artur Silva via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Friends of OSLIST,
> 
> After a sick period, I'm back on this list - and back to business. And as 
> someone once wrote that "The Business of Business is Lerning" I am back to 
> learning too!
> 
> As you know, my English is bad (it's my third foreign language) and I can't 
> pretend to animate this list.
> 
> But I hope Harrison will have more activity again, and others will have (or 
> become) more active. I am thinking, for example, and without wishing to 
> discriminate against anyone, Peggy Holman, Michael Herman, Harold Shinshato, 
> Suzanne Daigle, Christine Koheler, Lisa Heft, Brenden McKeague, Jeff Aitken, 
> Juan Luis Walker, Brian Owen, etc. And in so many new facilitators that this 
> list, if it comes back to life, will attract ...
> 
> As for me, I will start a blog about OST (maybe bilingual), relaunch the OST 
> Institute in Portugal and propose Portugal for WOSonOS 2022, not in Lisbon 
> but in the center, possibly in Caldas da Rainha (where my family is from and 
> is the small city where I now live) or Coimbra - which is not far away.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Artur Silva
> 
> 1006/5000
> Dear Friends of OSLIST,
> 
> After a sick period, I'm back on this list.
> 
> As you know, my English is bad (it's my third foreign language) and I can't 
> pretend to animate this list.
> 
> But I hope Harrison will have more activity again, and others will have (or 
> become) more active. I am thinking, for example, and without wishing to 
> discriminate against anyone, Peggy Holman, Michael Herman, Harrold Shinshato, 
> Suzanne Daigle, Christine Koheler, Lisa Heft, Brenden McKeague, Jeff Aitken, 
> Juan Luis Walker, Brian Owen, etc. And in so many new facilitators that this 
> list, if it comes back to life, will attract ...
> 
> As for me, I will start a blog about OST (maybe bilingual), relaunch the OST 
> Institute in Portugal and propose Portugal for WOSonOS 2022, not in Lisbon 
> but in the center, possibly in Caldas da Rainha (where my family is from and 
> the small city where I now live) or Coimbra - which is not far away.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Artur Silva
> 
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> Dear Friends of OSLIST,
> 
> After a sick period, I'm back on this list.
> 
> As you know, my English is bad (it's my third foreign language) and I can't 
> pretend to animate this list.
> 
> But I hope Harrison will have more activity again, and others will have (or 
> become) more active. I am thinking, for example, and without wishing to 
> discriminate against anyone, Peggy Holman, Michael Herman, Harrold Shinshato, 
> Suzanne Daigle, Christine Koheler, Lisa Heft, Brenden McKeague, Jeff Aitken, 
> Juan Luis Walker, Brian Owen, etc. And in so many new facilitators that this 
> list, if it comes back to life, will attract ...
> 
> As for me, I will start a blog about OST (maybe bilingual), relaunch the OST 
> Institute in Portugal and propose Portugal for WOSonOS 2022, not in Lisbon 
> but in the center, possibly in Caldas da Rainha (where my family is from and 
> the small city where I now live) or Coimbra - which is not far away.
> 
> Best regards
> 
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Re: [OSList] Urgency criterion?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

As a rule, the more urgent the necessity and the better more that it is 
understood and shared by the participants, the more successful the meeting is. 
This is true of any participatory process and it’s why I spend about three 
quarters of my time working with clients on invitation. Invest in the 
invitation and the process looks after itself. 

Chris. 

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> On Oct 10, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Barry Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1st thought: Don't confuse "Important" with "urgent". I feel that Urgency 
> is often vague  . . . So I tend to focus more on "need for resolution" - 
> often one person's urgency deflects focus from determining the real issue. 
> 
> This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be 
> somewhat wonky.
> 
> Barry Owen
> Real Estate Strategist
> Principal Broker & Founder
> Pareto Realty, LLC
> 4004 Hillsboro Pike B234
> Nashville, TN 37215
> 
> http://BarryOwen.us
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:32 AM Jake Yeager via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> 
>> In your experience, how critical is the urgency criterion for having a 
>> successful OST event? If there is significant passion around the issue, but 
>> it is not very urgent, will an OST event still be successful?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>> 
>> 
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
>> will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams
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Re: [OSList] Invitation formulation

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

This formulation from Harrison is powerful two reasons: 1. It is to the point 
and captures very simply the purpose of the gathering and 2. It is an entirely 
practical question. I love beautifully worded questions like Mary Oliver’s 
classic “What will do with your one wild and precious life?” but when we are 
doing strategic work it is critical that the question be simple so that the 
participants can bring the depth to it. My experience has been that any time I 
have sought to craft a beautiful question, me and the team would fall in love 
with it and that is entirely the wrong wy to approach an Open Space.  The 
purpose of the invitation is to get people into the room so they can fall in 
love with each other and the work they need to do. And so I love the "issues 
and opportunities” framing that Harrison has offered us from the beginning.  I 
find myself coming back to that framing more and more. If you can improve on 
the simplicity of “issues and opportunities” use that one and go!

Having said that, almost more important than the wording of the invitation is 
the process of inviting. The more personal you can make it, and the more one on 
one conversations you can have with people that need to be there, the more 
ready they will be for the gathering.  As a friend once said “The conversation 
begins long before the meeting starts and ends long after the meeting is over.”

Chris



> On Oct 17, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> You will have to tailor to fit ... but the essence of the invitation I did 
> several years ago with an all university Open Space was: "Making our 
> University a place of real learning: Issues and opportunities" We had 600+ 
> for two days ranging from maintenance staff to the President. Pretty deep and 
> one of my observations was that no group that I could see (and there were too 
> many to check them all) had just one sort of participant -- all Profs, all 
> students... whatever. It was always a mixture which made the conversations 
> very rich and deep. Just imagine the senior plumber seriously engaging senior 
> faculty! Fun.
> 
> ho
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Royle, Karl via OSList
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:15 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Royle, Karl
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Invitation formulation
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have managed to persuade our rather large University faculty to have a 
> learning conversation using OS. This will replace a peer review exercise. So 
> OST will be the first stage in setting an agenda for teams to identify and 
> work on issues in teaching and learning that they think are of consequence  
> or need for change. 
> 
> One issue for example might be the difference in achievement rates of BAME 
> students as opposed to the rates in the student population as a whole. 
> 
> I wondered if colleagues might have done something similar or if you have any 
> examples of invitations. I realise there might be threads on this topic so 
> apologise in advance for not finding them/saving them.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Karl
> 
> On 17/10/2019, 07:52, "OSList on behalf of Michael M Pannwitz via OSList" 
>  oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>Dear Michael Herman,
> 
>is there a space for videos on our
>> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1iKzde-0005uZ-4b&i=57e1b682&c=Vp46tCHmzj1zQFpiVw4IXCsAUTztvN9DwuuNAVPXBHtYorNuc04rrOq0mWPd5pMXmGwFSPhIToAAh1H4hwuPkSuN5VKnmOaebHZHoHokYdbbk94nIeccBs1H895InBKcfJCyLMYYcqSySs-Tc88dNgx-7FaF2wh94_iwRvQq-1wtjadEUNvDKxyxOaLCDmTpvtkwO-spmPpQeucy3831QgMBgfPu-S7zyevStqtgiBw
> 
>??
> 
>Have a grand day in Boise or wherever you are
>mmp
> 
>Am 16.10.2019 um 23:40 schrieb anne stadler via OSList:
>> Video
>> 
>> Please upload to Vimeo Phelim. Then anyone can see it.
>> Is there an OST Channel on which to load it—on Vimeo or somewhere, Harold?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM > > wrote:
>> 
>>Send OSList mailing list submissions to
>>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I just tried it. .com goes to your website. 

.org goes to the worldwide site

Looks good to me
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> On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just curious… tried to reach openspaceworld.com and .org. neither site put in 
> an appearance. Does anybody have an answer?
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Herman via OSList
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:12 AM
> To: Michael M Pannwitz
> Cc: Michael Herman; anne stadler via OSList
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15
>  
> greetings from boise, michael!  i stopped hosting files at openspaceworld.org 
> many years ago, long before videos came along.  everything in the os 
> community is hosted on a passion bounded by responsibility basis.  as hosting 
> options have proliferated, got simple and free people have manage their stuff 
> for themselves.  they take better care of it that way than i ever could.  
> that vision was born from your list of links invited at osonos7 in chicago, 
> when osw was only 6 months old.  someday, i thought, osw would be nothing but 
> a list of links.  i still have some of the earliest osonos notes and a few 
> other things, but mostly osw is portal vs archive.  
>  
> m
> 
> --
> 
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>  
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>  
> 
>  
>  
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:51 AM Michael M Pannwitz  
> wrote:
> Dear Michael Herman,
> 
> is there a space for videos on our
> > https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/
> 
> ??
> 
> Have a grand day in Boise or wherever you are
> mmp
> 
> Am 16.10.2019 um 23:40 schrieb anne stadler via OSList:
> > Video
> > 
> > Please upload to Vimeo Phelim. Then anyone can see it.
> > Is there an OST Channel on which to load it—on Vimeo or somewhere, Harold?
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM  > > wrote:
> > 
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> > 
> > Today's Topics:
> > 
> > 1. Re: Video? (Koos de Heer)
> > 2. Re: Video? (Harold Shinsato)
> > 3. OS Training - Formation Forum Ouvert Montreal Oct 21-23
> >(Diane Gibeault)
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 22:44:29 +0200
> > From: Koos de Heer mailto:k...@auryn.nl>>
> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >   > >
> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Video?
> > Message-ID:  > >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Generally, it is considered good internet practice to not send large
> > files to a mailing list, but a link.I am also very curious, so I
> > hope the uploading works.Met vriendelijke groet,Koos de Heer
> >  Oorspronkelijk bericht Van: Jeff Aitken via OSList
> >  > > Datum: 15-10-19  21:46 
> > (GMT+01:00) Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >  > > Cc: Jeff Aitken
> > mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>>
> > Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Video? Hey Phelim. No expert here, but a
> > link seems wise. Can't wait to see it!JeffYelamu (San Francisco)On
> > Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 10:29 AM Phelim McDermott via OSList
> >  > > wrote:If I send a video in
> > an email to the OSList will people be able to see it? Or do I need
> > to upload it to something like Vimeo and send a link?
> > 
> > Asking for a friend?
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Phelim
> > -
> > ?I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the
> > working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If
> > it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298.
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Try the Russian site.  That might work for DC.  ;-)



> On Oct 17, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great! Must be local (Washington DC) interference (smile) Actually tried 
> myself and went right through. Cloud Cleared… for the moment.
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Corrigan via OSList
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 3:30 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Chris Corrigan
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15
>  
> I just tried it. .com goes to your website. 
> 
> .org goes to the worldwide site
>  
> Looks good to me
> _
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> www.chriscorrigan.com
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Just curious… tried to reach openspaceworld.com and .org. neither site put 
>> in an appearance. Does anybody have an answer?
>>  
>> ho
>>  
>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Herman via OSList
>> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:12 AM
>> To: Michael M Pannwitz
>> Cc: Michael Herman; anne stadler via OSList
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15
>>  
>> greetings from boise, michael!  i stopped hosting files at 
>> openspaceworld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/> many years ago, long before 
>> videos came along.  everything in the os community is hosted on a passion 
>> bounded by responsibility basis.  as hosting options have proliferated, got 
>> simple and free people have manage their stuff for themselves.  they take 
>> better care of it that way than i ever could.  that vision was born from 
>> your list of links invited at osonos7 in chicago, when osw was only 6 months 
>> old.  someday, i thought, osw would be nothing but a list of links.  i still 
>> have some of the earliest osonos notes and a few other things, but mostly 
>> osw is portal vs archive.  
>>  
>> m
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Michael Herman
>> Michael Herman Associates
>> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>>  
>> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:51 AM Michael M Pannwitz > <mailto:mmpannw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Dear Michael Herman,
>>> 
>>> is there a space for videos on our
>>> > https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/ <https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/>
>>> 
>>> ??
>>> 
>>> Have a grand day in Boise or wherever you are
>>> mmp
>>> 
>>> Am 16.10.2019 um 23:40 schrieb anne stadler via OSList:
>>> > Video
>>> > 
>>> > Please upload to Vimeo Phelim. Then anyone can see it.
>>> > Is there an OST Channel on which to load it—on Vimeo or somewhere, Harold?
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > 
>>> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM >> > <mailto:oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org> 
>>> > <mailto:oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org 
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 103, Issue 7

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

It’s certainly better that people open more space than don’t open more space. 
Even clumsily, even rebranded, even badly.  Anyone with a good heart and a good 
brain can do it, so I’m told.  And free to boot!  What a gift!

:-)

Chris

> On Nov 15, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank Goodness! It is all yours, has been ever since. Take it, love it, use 
> it… Open Space is FREE!
>  
> Harrison
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mark Carmel via OSList
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:40 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Mark Carmel
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 103, Issue 7
>  
> here we go with someone who wants to take OST unto their own brand...we need 
> brand protection...LOL
>  
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Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Happy birthday Harrison!  

You continue you to be the inspiration for my work, and without ever having 
stumbled upon your work through Ann Stadler and Angeles Arrien, I never would 
have recognized what is mine to do in the world.

Enjoy your day.

Chris

> On Dec 2, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Morning all,
> 
> It’s that time of year. For most of us, it’s holiday season.
> 
> A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen’s birthday. 
> 
> Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of the 
> status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world becomes 
> ever more relevant.
> 
> Thanks for being you.
> 
> Love,
> Peggy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[OSList] Origin story telling call with Harrison Owen

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Hi all.

My friends at Beehive Productions and I are hosting a two hour call with 
Harrison to hear some of the deep origin stories of Open Space Technology.  
This will be a lovely chance to hear some of the stories you have heard about 
first hand from Harrison himself.

Join us for a lovely chat.

https://www.beehive-productions.net/course/origin-story-harrison-owen/ 


Look forward seeing you on the call.

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Re: [OSList] Origins of Open Space

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Feeling was 100% mutual. And I wrote a blog post about it as well. 

http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/harrison-owen-and-getting-out-of-the-way/

It was great to see so many of you there too. 

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> On Jan 29, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chris Corrigan and his good friend Rowan have been engaged in an “Origins” 
> project asking the perpetrators how we got there. They cornered me on Open 
> Space and I confess I really enjoyed it. Thought you might as well. Go to 
> https://vimeo.com/386776216
>  
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Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Building on this:

In the past when a sponsor has been clear about content areas but hasn’t 
specified what can be discussed within them we did the following:

1. Make sure you have lots of people there, because diversity of experience and 
ideas is helpful.

2. Have the sponsor outline the specific areas they need help with “These three 
pillars of our plan are up for discussion…” but also be sure that the sponsor 
indicates that any and all conversations are welcome on the day.

3. When introducing the process, divide the news wall into specific areas and 
have one area for “Other.”  As people complete their session reports, instruct 
them to post the results in one of the specific subject areas if they want 
their ideas considered. Use the “Other” category for interesting outlier 
conversation reports. Very important here that the convener of the topic choose 
which category to post in.

4. Make some time to then have the group break out into groups focusing on the 
specific areas and distill some recommendations or insights, or whatever is 
useful to the sponsor.  If you have a large group, then perhaps invite the 
conveners of sessions to gather in subject-specific teams to has through the 
proceedings from the specific areas.”

That has worked well for me in the past where the intention has been 
constrained, but the sponsor wants to allow a larger space to be opened.

Chris

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> yes to what's already been said.  and... it sounds like the OS part is 
> already happening, and you're asking about how to get from there to the 
> sponsor's three objectives.  if that's the question, i'd suggest it's simply 
> two open spaces (perhaps loosely defined).  
> 
> the first OS runs as usual and finishes with all the notes on the wall.  you 
> haven't said anything about how many people are expected to gather and how 
> long.  the how long will imply something about the quality of the notes, but 
> at a minimum it seems safe to assume that you'll have written topics posted, 
> even if the OS is just a few hours.  
> 
> the second "OS" simply invites everyone to look at the wall and work together 
> to organize everything into three streams of work.  in a small group, with 
> good notes, this might be as simple as the group going straight to the 
> existing wall to organize.  but even then, you probably want to be able to 
> add practical detail, immediate next steps, to the wall.  so with any size 
> group you might simply "re-open the space for action."  invite the whole 
> group to create the agenda for the next 3 months or year or whatever, 
> identifying immediate next steps and posting them to a different wall.  have 
> them keep reviewing the original wall and notes until all the most important 
> next steps are identified.  challenge them to make sense of them as they post 
> the steps.  
> 
> it might be three or two or five or whatever streams.  if the leader is 
> adamant about three, some finessing might be required, but the shifting might 
> also happen within that sponsor, who won't want to blow up a coherence 
> created by so many, and understood my him/herself and those many.  so it 
> might turn out that 5 really clear objectives, well detailed, are actually 
> just fine.  or if the charge is to create exactly three, the group will 
> likely work to create that.  either way, it will work.  
> 
> bonus points for scheduling places and times the first conversations can 
> happen on most immediate next steps.
> 
> m
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:24 AM R Chaffe via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are 
> willing to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if 
> Open Space technology is the correct process.  You may operate out of an Open 
> Space mind set!
> 
> Under promise and over deliver.  Never try to contradict what the sponsor 
> requires, this well men you advise them that you are not the best person for 
> the task required. Not an easy call to make when you think you need the work. 
>  In the longer term you are so much stronger and you will attract the best 
> clients, this is where the rubber meets the road.
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:26 pm, Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jake:
>> 
>> Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with 
>> Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most appropriate 
>> format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like a regular 
>> workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work better here.
>> 
>> An Open Space does not imp

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that would be 
“pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But specifying that “we 
are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open and 
the sponsor should be generally curious about what will come out of it and how 
results will be used.

Chris

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Reviewing again this article 
> 
>  by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space. 
> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating 
> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
> 
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager  > wrote:
> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
> 
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager  > wrote:
> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you have 
> provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced 
> practitioners.
> 
> Some info:
> I have one day for the event
> There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
> Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how you measure 
> your success 
> We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of the day: so, 
> it's a tight time-frame
> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the sponsor to 
> switch up the schedule too much.
> 
> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact training for 
> formulating recommendations and have found it to work well. That said, I am 
> open to learning how to let go of control even more and will explore the many 
> options provided on this thread for future events. I'm definitely open to 
> learning more about how I can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's 
> comment. :)
> 
> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence" design:
> After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10 
> Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes rather 
> than voting on them. 
> I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in parallel. The group 
> members will be able to choose which theme(s) they want to refine (or not) in 
> a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same setup with key results.
> Learning as I go as we all do. :) 
> 
> Much love,
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann 
> mailto:tho...@openspaceconsulting.com>> 
> wrote:
> Dear Jake
> 
> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the 
> purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there must 
> be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but should be 
> identified/agreed on in the OST?
> 
> My experience from similar situations is that it is not that well thought 
> through or that the opportunities at hand if choosing to use OST are not 
> fully understood.
> 
> Good night from Sweden
> 
> Thomas Herrmann
> 
>  
> 
> Från: OSList  > För Jake Yeager via OSList
> Skickat: den 5 februari 2020 00:57
> Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
> Kopia: Jake Yeager mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>
> Ämne: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?
> 
>  
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group?
> 
>  
> 
> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the 
> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then 
> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. 
> 
>  
> 
> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy if 
> the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I could 
> use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent decision-making 
> could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final call on the top 3 if 
> the group is split.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks and much love,
> 
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
> 
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Re: [OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Harrison has described as being “totally invisible but completely present.”  I 
rarely leave the room. But I also never intervene. If asked to help I respond 
with “what would you like to do? Why don’t you take care of it?” It’s about 
radical return of passion and responsibility to the people. It is indeed risky. 
But the reward is immense. 

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> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)
> 
> This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two 
> half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which I 
> am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged with 
> another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who are we, 
> and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a leader in 
> Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order to 
> understand it better as it is new to my firm.
> 
> Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the 
> breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make sure 
> that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating would 
> have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she inquired 
> after the first day why I had not participated.
> 
> Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I 
> facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was working, 
> and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the facilitator's role is 
> to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its capacity for 
> self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very hierarchical and 
> that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even intervening in a group if it 
> gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that intervening is not part of Open 
> Space facilitation. 
> 
> So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description on 
> his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor heard, 
> but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks and not 
> being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues provided 
> feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared. This is 
> definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love, not 
> negligence. 
> 
> Anyway, would love your thoughts.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jake
> 
> 
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[OSList] Law of Mobility, reimiagined

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Hi all.  Just published a piece looking at COVID-19 and complexity. 
  
One of the heuristics I am using is a reimagination of the Law of Mobility:

“If you find yourself in a group of four or more people, go somewhere where you 
aren’t.”

Good luck friends.


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Re: [OSList] Law of Mobility, reimiagined

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

And already upgrading it to “two people” instead of four.

Chris

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Diana Larsen  wrote:
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> 😂 Great reframe! 
> 
> Diana
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>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.  Just published a piece looking at COVID-19 and complexity. 
>> <http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/complexity-in-the-time-of-covid-19/>
>>   One of the heuristics I am using is a reimagination of the Law of Mobility:
>> 
>> “If you find yourself in a group of four or more people, go somewhere where 
>> you aren’t.”
>> 
>> Good luck friends.
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Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I heard a lovely a succinct line from Valdis Krebs yesterday:

Similarities are where we connect, difference is where we innovate.  The art of 
invitation is creating a group with similarities and differences operating at a 
nice creative tension.  Not everyone in a system needs to be connected to 
everyone else. But if everyone is a stranger, there is not enough coherence to 
self-organize.  Self-organization needs you to strike a healthy balance between 
the two.  

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Re: [OSList] Recording Zoom OST Sessions??

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’ve never done an open space where every session was recorded. And not sure I 
ever would. 

The proceedings are for me always meant to be doorways to the next 
conversation, not an invitation to the past. I invite everyone who could attend 
a session to contact the convener to see where things are now. 

That’s my two cents. 

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> On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Recording the opening is an easy middle ground, Marc. Gives context for any 
> notes captured. Doesn’t intrude. Doesn’t require special tech arrangements 
> for recording breakouts. Participant names in breakout notes is always 
> helpful, I think, if people capture them. 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 17:39 Marc C. Trudeau via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> Hello again.
>> 
>> I’ve offered/sponsored a series of OSTs for my alma mater (students, staff, 
>> alums), themed, “How will we, the WPI community, support each other through 
>> this difficult time.” The second event is tomorrow night, and one person has 
>> reached out who can’t accommodate the schedule, asking if the event can be 
>> recorded. I’m inclined to say no, since proceedings will be available to the 
>> whole community, and I fear recording could tend to close the space (make 
>> people less open and fully themselves)
>> 
>>  Prior to answering him, I decided to ask for your help. Will you lend your 
>> advice?
>> 
>> Thanks again!
>> 
>> Marc
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Re: [OSList] Open Space in Zoom times......

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

If the time zones work, I’d be interested. My crew is doing OST events with
Zoom and Miro (and Google Slides) and we could share some stories.

It works far better than I would have expected.

 Chris

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>
> Seeing Funda’s posting…. I would LOVE to have a conversation (dare I say
> Zoom ?!!) with OS people about how to make OS the best it possibly can be
> in an online world. I know that Phelim and the Improbable crew have done
> some online work. If anyone might be interested in talking about such
> things, I would love it….
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> Many thanks
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Re: [OSList] Issues of access and privilege

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Judith, these are excellent observations and need to be built into the
design of every online open space event.

To these I would add issues of visual accessibility, for example if
participants are colour blind, they often have a hard time using online
whiteboard tools unless we have deliberately chosen colour blind friendly
schemes.

Issues of accessibility and privilege should be a key part of design for
anyParticipatory meeting. If working in the online space has begun to
surface these issues, that is a good thing! Even in face-to-face meetings
it is important to constantly wrestle with accessibility in all it’s forms.

Chris

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 5:42 AM Judith Stemerdink-Herret via OSList <
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> Hi everybody,
>
> I would like to reply on James’ comment about access and privilege in an
> online world. I experience and observe that there are still enough problems
> and inequalities to participate for many people:
>
>
>- First of all access to a device (computer, smart phone). Many have
>smart phones but not all have a computer to use all possibilities of
>interacting like working in break-out sessions together on Google doc or
>virtual collaboration tools.
>- Second a strong and stable bandwidth. This depends on the
>region/country you live in but also on your personal budget.
>- Third to be able to fully connect with others you need also a camera
>that everybody can see you too, which definitely adds on to the personal
>connection.
>- Forth is connected with the 3rd point because a camera allows to
>sneak into “your home” and shows a lot about your personal living standard
>and enables/hinders you to concentrate on the participation (e.g. if family
>members are in the same room, noise from the neighbourhood/street etc.).
>Even offices can be difficult surroundings if you share the same room with
>several colleagues.
>- Fifth, to participate from home is for many people a challenge
>because they have children or other family members to care for and get
>interrupted.
>
>
> Some of the above mentioned points might be mitigated easily. For instance
> we don’t have to show where we are and can choose in some video tools the
> background. Some limitations like local bandwidth is less in your control.
>
> Regarding the background of our personal video, I prefer to see the
> “reality” people are seated and understand a bit better the challenges
> around them. I smile if a toddler wants to be on the lap of the daddy, or a
> colleague appears unknowingly on the screen, or a cat hijacks the keyboard.
> It gives me a feeling that we are all humans and not only nice and neat
> little computer screen windows.
>
> How is your experience regarding access and privilege?
>
> Kind regards from sunny Vienna,
> Judith
>
>
>
> *JuSt-Her e.U.Judith Stemerdink-Herret*
>
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> "If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go
> together." African Proverb
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>
> *From: *James Sheldon 
> *Subject: **Re: [OSList] feedback on virtual meetings using open space
> technology*
> *Date: *10. January 2021 at 04:25:14 CET
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> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
>
>
> I know we say whoever comes are the right people... but that has always
> come down to issues of access and privilege, which can be somewhat
> mitigated by technology, even if there's still issues of bandwidth or
> Internet access.  It will be interesting to see how OS unfolds in this
> brave new world we live in...
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Re: [OSList] Confused American

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

All cultures have a trickster.

You're all just not used to it being Jeff!

(a friendly raven squawk, right back at you, brother)

Chris

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:56 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom
> I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with
> twelve generations of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our
> grandfather moved to California.
>
> I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around
> holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came
> through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the
> USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.
>
> Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires
> digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and
> judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have
> satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.
>
> So, it became an offering in these interesting times.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's
>>> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently
>>>
>>> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
 This is totally weird… I’ve known Jeff for years and I simply can’t
 believe he would say something like that. Strange times.



 ho



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 *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList 
 *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
 *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list
 
 *Cc: *Jeff Aitken 
 *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American



 As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the

 President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public

 speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic

 pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated

 leading up to that moment, it seemed.



 The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube

 channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background

 (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with

 other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take

 place on the optimal day.



 What went wrong? I remain confused.

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Re: [OSList] OS in Zoom times

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Dearest Anne:

I have also found zoom to be intimate! I know folks complain a lot about
zoom fatigue but before this pandemic there was such a thing as "meeting
fatigue" and of course what we all know is that is down to how a meeting is
hosted - or not.  It's not enough just to use a tool in a physical or a
virtual space. How one shows up to lead and host, as always, is critical.

Much love to you and yours,

Chris

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:13 AM anne stadler via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dears:
> How wonderful to hear your plans to meet on Monday the 18th! Was hoping I
> could join too; but that’s a time when I’ll already be in an OS on Zoom.
>
> So I’ll just report that I’ve done quite a lot of virtual OS since Covid,
> both using the Marketplace format and also using what I call “radical OS”:
> opening the space via a Welcome followed by a simple ritual or chant and/or
> check in. Breaking into groups depends on the numbers of folks likely to be
> present, and can happen co-creatively as the experience matures. In groups
> of twenty or under, the whole circle often morphs into a Boehmian
> conversation or story sharing.
> With larger groups the Marketplace format is essential. It’s worked best
> if you have a technical facilitator and a host facilitating. Improbable has
> done some wonderful OST gatherings using Qiqo Chat & Zoom.
>
> I’ve found Zoom very intimate, allowing deep dives usually as a result of
> encouraging people to share personal stories & embodied experience about
> the Calling question/ intention. It’s been surprising & inspiring
> especially in circumstances where people were strangers. AND new insights,
> learning & relationships (substantive & personal) have emerged.
>
> Whatever format I’ve experienced, it seems that these essentials have been
> significant:
> continual listening for openings as they arise; applying a
> Process-oriented-Psychology attention to facilitating emergence; keeping in
> mind implicitly & explicitly the whole “field.”; supporting personal story
> sharing & observations.
>
> Hope these reflections are useful. Love & gratitude to all!
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> Occupy
> 100%!
>
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Re: [OSList] Tree Fitzpatrick memorial celebration on March 21

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

A story about how Tree schooled me on the needs of introverts, along with a
long comment from her.  THis is why she meant so much to me. This post
catches a powerful teaching moment for me and it changed my practice:

http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/designing-with-introverts-in-mind/

Chris

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:15 PM Romy Shovelton via OSList <
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> How absolutely precious…… Fly well Tree !!
>
> 😊
>
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>
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> On 7 Mar 2021, at 10:33, Gail West via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I do, indeed, remember Tree at Whidbey Island.  Thanks for sharing this
> wonderful celebration.  Gail
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 3:06 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> For those who have been practicing Open Space Technology for a while, you
>> will likely remember the irascible voice of Tree Fitzpatrick. She left this
>> earth on January 20th.
>>
>> A small group of us have planned a memorial celebration for her. It is,
>> of course, informed by Open Space. An invitation is below and on Facebook
>> .
>> Please come and share the invitation with others you believe would want to
>> know.
>>
>> Of course, if you want to share a story on this list, I suspect many of
>> us have learned from and even loved Tree.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Peggy
>>
>>
>> Therese (Tree) Fitzpatrick
>> August 16, 1953 - January 20, 2021
>>
>>
>> Bio
>> Therese Marie Fitzpatrick (“Tree”)  was born in Mitchell, South Dakota
>> (home of the Corn Palace), and raised on the south side of Chicago.
>> Throughout her life, she lived in many places, including the Midwest, South
>> America, Northeast, and Northwest before she landed in Berkeley, a place
>> she’d always dreamed of living. She was a mother, a writer, an attorney, a
>> political activist, a consultant, an art lover, a voracious reader, a daily
>> swimmer, a sister, a daughter, and a friend. She was brilliant, determined,
>> resourceful, loving, and creative. Despite a lifetime of challenges, she
>> worked diligently to create and live the life she wanted. Join us as we
>> remember her.
>>
>>
>>
>> In memoriam…
>>
>> Zoom Memorial - Sunday, March 21, 7 - 8:30pm ET /4-5:30 pm PT
>> Please join friends and family of Therese Marie Fitzpatrick (Tree) to
>> honor and remember her fierce and loving spirit.
>>
>> Register on Zoom here
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Our purpose is to:
>>
>>- Honor Tree
>>- Share/process our feelings
>>- Draw her family into the circle of love that Tree created among her
>>friends
>>- Offer some sense of closure
>>
>> We’ll be sharing stories at the celebration so please bring yours.Additional
>> Ways to Celebrate Share FavoritesWhether or not you come to the
>> memorial, here are other ways to celebrate Tree’s life:
>>
>>- Post on her Facebook Memorial event page
>>
>>- Send music suggestions and pictures to Nancy White at
>>nancy.wh...@gmail.com. We’ll use them during the memorial service so
>>share now!
>>
>> Make a Donation
>> Three suggestions from her daughter:
>>
>>
>>- Walker Art Center
>>This is an incredible museum in Minneapolis
>>that my mother took me to once a month as a child, and at which my mother
>>was a volunteer and tour guide.
>>
>>- Saint Francis Friends of the Poor .
>>This is an organization in NYC whose mission is as follows: "to offer
>>permanent housing and supportive services to homeless men and women with
>>histories of chronic mental illness." Saint Francis Friends of the
>>Poor is an organization that is near and dear to my heart, and with which 
>> I
>>work closely. They are trailblazers who revolutionized the supportive
>>housing model in NYC 40 years ago, and are well known to be the
>>standard-bearers for the provision of housing and services to individuals
>>with chronic mental illness in New York. I consider my work with St.
>>Francis 

Re: [OSList] OST for social movement strategy

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Some thoughts below:


> ‪On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 5:53 AM ‫חן צבי via OSList‬‎ <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:‬
>
>> Hello wonderful people,
>> first time here.
>>
>>
Hi there and welcome!


>
>>
>> *Questions:*1. Do you think my instincts here are correct? Do you have
>> any important points  to consider when executing?
>>
>>
Regular Open Spaces are a good idea and I think your instincts are correct.
My advice would be to start smaller, and do them more frequently to let the
momentum and your practice grow.


> 2. The event will need to be held online. How effective is that? Can it
>> hold well hundreds and maybe thousands of people? Do you have any
>> recommendations or resources on how to make it happen well?
>>
>>
Others will weigh in on tools, and probably Qiqo Chat is the way to go.
Many in this community can advise you on that.

Think a bit smaller to start with!



> 3. Probably the biggest issue is time, and how long the event will be. I
>> had a chance to read that 5 hours is quite the minimum to get something
>> substantial. How long do people survive in online events in which they do
>> not move?  Many participants will not have the privilege to make themselves
>> available for so many hours, and that can cause substantial tensions around
>> accessibility and equivalence, do you have any ideas on how to attend
>> to it? I also got a chance to read that the commitment to be present from
>> start to finish is more important than the amount of people coming, how can
>> we take care of that in a long online event where people are volunteers?
>>
>>
"Whoever comes are the right people." is the first principle of Open Space.
And the Law of Mobility is always in effect.

This means that you need to create a compelling invitation for folks. You
need to tap into a need for people to be there, be working and be
connected. You might also need to find ways to help people to participate.
The bottom line is that if this is the most important thing for people to
be doing, they will be there. And it will be for some. But not all. If you
are the only one who feels the need for this, it's unlikely that others
will come. Instead what if you held a short OST meeting to invite others to
join you in this call and explore these questions you have together?

Buy and read the OST User's Guide.


> 4. Does it make sense to produce a condensed and prioritized report after
>> the event that will detail some sort of emergent strategy and plans to meet
>> the purpose presented? Any resources on how to do it well and in an
>> efficient manner?
>>
>>
>
Not always...it depends. It's all related to your purpose. If you are using
OST for strategic work, then yes. If you are using it just for folks to
connect, then a report with prioritized actions steps doesn't make much
sense. It's all related to the purpose of your event. Whenever I am
designing something like this I always think about why we are doing it and
what needs to happen to support whatever comes next.


> 5. Do you know any experienced practitioners in the UK (maybe you?) that
>> might find this aligned with their values and would want to support with
>> deeper advice?
>>
>>
There are some on this list.  I'll leave them to answer


> I'd appreciate responses to any or all of the questions, thank you for
>> reading !
>>
>>

Good luck!

Chris



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Re: [OSList] doubt about how to begin OS

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Yes. I walk the circle. I greet people, look at them, talk about their
invitation and encourage them that this is the time they have wanted to
talk about thi BC s important to them. Then I very simply explain the
instructions and invite them to make their agenda. And then I walk out and
let them get to work.

Trust the people. If the issue is important for them they will make the
conversations they need to have.

Chris.


On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 3:37 AM arantxa hergueta bravo via OSList <
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> Hi to you all!
>
> May name is Arantxa. I´m new here, and I´m new in Open Space too. In a few
> days I will facilitate my first OS and to do so I´ve been doing some
> reading and talking with a friend, who knows very well the whole process.
>
> I´ve got a bunch of doubts, but want to share one specially with you. If
> someone wants to share her/his experience or ideas It´ll be terrific. I´ll
> try to explain it. It´s been years that I don´t write in English,
> so…lets´see!
>
> My friend has told me, once the “event” promoter has made a presentation,
> he comes from outside the participants circle, invites everybody to
> breathe, look each other and so, and, then, he comes into the circle and
> walks inside it (walks the circle) looking to each of the participants in
> order to greet them. My questions: How do you do it? How do you begin? Do
> you “walk the circle”? Why? How does it make you feel?
>
> And that´s all for now.
>
> Thank you very much!!!
>
> And have a beautiful day!
>
>
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Re: [OSList] Test...

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

More on Participatory Narrative Inquiry here:
https://www.workingwithstories.org/aboutpni.html

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 2:05 PM john watkins via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Lovely! I can use this format next week with a group of middle school
> students who are doing a fishbowl (virtually) with our senior leadership
> teams from across North America. They can model it for the districts, who
> can take it back and use if with their participatory narrative “street
> data” processes. Thanks!
>
> John Watkins
>
> On Oct 27, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> A blog by Chris about PNI is below. In the example, an animating theme is
> "how to get a bunch of perspectives from throughout a company on a new
> phase in a company’s evolution."
>
> And the questions he suggests for participants on a Google form: "share a
> story of something that happened lately that made you think: ‘we need to
> address this issue…'” Get everyone in the organization to enter one story,
> a few sentences. On the form then ask them a) how common do you think this
> is in our organization and b) what is one thing we could do to address that
> issue?"
>
> As you see it's a way to harvest stories than can inform a next
> conversation about the past-present-future. (In open space?)
>
> Something like this could be adapted for a basic inquiry of our OS
> community of practice. If there is a lively theme to propose!
>
> https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/very-basic-story-gathering/
>
> - Jeff
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 12:58 PM Harrison Owen SR via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> OS in Schools is wonderful. Even a long time ago (25 YEARS?) A school up
>> in Seattle basically bookended its year. Opened with 2 days on the question
>> "what are we going to do?" and closed with 2 days - "what have we done?"
>> Everybody came -- students, teachers, parents, cooks, janitors --
>> everybody.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 2:54 PM john watkins via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff (and Chris),
>>>
>>> I love this work! We (the Deeper Learning Dozen
>>> ,  working with senior leaders in
>>> school districts across North America) see this process as deeply connected
>>> to our efforts to get school districts to engage meaningfully with their
>>> most marginalized students and families, and PNI is a really great process
>>> for that, especially in valuing stories as evidence of learning, what works
>>> and doesn’t work for kids and families, and what they see as needed
>>> changes. We see it as really well aligned with our colleagues, Shane Safir
>>> and Jamila Dugan, in their new book, Street Data: A next generation model
>>> for equity, pedagogy, and school transformation. Thanks for posting!
>>>
>>> John Watkins
>>> Oakland, CA
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I looked into "the method" with Chris not so long ago. It can be
>>> relatively simple actually.
>>>
>>> A few good questions are agreed upon: Questions that invite stories of
>>> experiences from members of the community (like our OS community of
>>> practice.)
>>>
>>> There is attention to crafting a short menu of questions that can bring
>>> out a story. Each person can then choose which question to answer.
>>>
>>> There is software that will collect the responses, and then it can help
>>> to arrange a round of "making sense" of the stories that are gathered.
>>>
>>> As an American I have interest in stories of Open Space helping people
>>> in a town or city toward (or return to) a sense of mutual love for the
>>> place, and mutual aid for one another. As just one timely example.
>>>
>>> There was interest in stories of OS as a practice of peace, also timely.
>>>
>>> Cynthia Kurtz write the book Participatory Narrative Inquiry and the
>>> software Narrafirma with colleagues.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Telegraph Hill
>>> Yelamu / San Francisco California
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 8:38 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
 If you pray to the list serve Gods, don't expect much. There aren't any.

 This list is self-organized and self-moderated. If things go well, I am
 hoping to get the OSList migrated to Mailman 3.0 soon. It will help with
 some of the bounce problems, but it won't make any difference to the
 self-organization of this conversation.

 You might make a difference though. I believe you already have. Thank
 you for that, Mark!

 On 10/24/21 11:50 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote:

 To the list serve Gods: Maybe it's time for a list serve tune up
 how about adding Chris Corrigan's method of story sharing so we can collect
 everyone's success stories in one place? Thanks for your consideration and
 service,
 MC

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work for sometime
and although I don't fully understand it yet I think what I do know of it,
it's great.).

WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because this is how she
has come to an understanding about the simple truths that Warm Data works
with. God know we have some pretty funny language amongst us all to explain
things like "let people look after things they care about."  But, Jeff, the
first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and is a concise
description of Warm Data process, and is very helpful to me having an "aha"
about it.

Chris

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice of a methodology
> that she invented (I think.)
>
> Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks were figuring out
> what the hell this is all about... : )
>
> And from the lens of an artist and family therapy researcher whose father
> was Gregory Bateson. That makes sense to me...
>
> Warmly
> Jeff
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken  wrote:
>
>> Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves practitioners to be simple,
>> while it serves systems scientists to be complicated or complex.
>>
>> They are writing about living systems at all scales and making very
>> subtle distinctions.
>>
>> It may serve us practitioners to have some appreciation for the latter.
>> "Your mileage may vary" tho, as a friend says!
>>
>> Warmly
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:10 PM Birgitt Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff..I don't understand why it serves to be so complicated? Why not
>>> simply refer to seen and unseen?
>>>
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:57 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
 One more email - I was amiss to mention this new theory by Nora,
 without defining the word she is introducing, and she finds occurring in
 Warm Data Lab and I think is true in OST too.

 It is "a way to describe a life giving process, by which vitality,
 healing, and creativity come into being by the coalescence of multiple
 unseen factors."

 "Aphanipoiesis combines two words from ancient Greek to describe this
 way in which life coalesces toward vitality in unseen ways. (Aphanis comes
 from a Greek root meaning obscured, unseen, unnoticed; poiesis is from one
 meaning to bring forth, to make.)"

 Yes it's an academic term, and is presented at a systems science
 conference and in a journal article.

 Useful for practitioners to think about and to notice in our work?
 That's my question for the oslist.

 It reminds me of Harrison's definition of "peace" in The Practice of
 Peace. With an emphasis on the unseen, internal, very subtle shifts that
 take place that are NOT reflected in proceedings and action plans.

 Warmly, Jeff.

 Reference:

 Bateson, N.,(2021). Aphanipoiesis. In Journal of the International
 Society for the Systems Sciences, Proceedings of the 64th Annual Meeting of
 the ISSS, Virtual (Vol. 1, №1) — under review.

 This work was presented at the Annual Biosemiotics Conference June
 2021, the Annual Conference of the International Society of Systems
 Sciences July 2021, and the Annual conference of the Institute of General
 Semantics September 2021.

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 11:16 PM Jeff Aitken 
 wrote:

> As a refresher or quick intro to the process, Warm Data Lab starts
> with a group of folks and a theme question. But the topics of conversation
> are chosen in advance by sponsor and facilitator. Each breakout table (or
> area) gets a topic written on a sign: which names a context from which to
> address the theme question.
>
> So if the theme is drug abuse, the chosen wide variety of contexts
> might be: education, prisons, public health, initiation, addiction,
> pharmaceuticals, parenting, ceremony, etc. People go to the breakouts of
> their choice and stay or move as they wish. The law of mobility is used. A
> closing circle might end the event after some number of hours.
>
> It has some qualities of OST and World Cafe while being different.
>
> I've only been in one WDL so other folks might improve my description.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 7:22 PM Jeff Aitken 
> wrote:
>
>> Where does systemic change take place? I am reflecting on earlier
>> posts about the Warm Data Lab and comparing - contrasting this work with
>> other hosted conversation processes like OST.
>>
>> What seems different - please correct this if it's wrong - is the
>> level of attention paid to the complex ways in which WDL might help bring
>> about change. Looking well beyond action plans and carefully harvested
>> proceed

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

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> >
> Connect on LinkedIn <
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> >
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:31 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >> wrote:
>Now I am considering whether there is a (hopefully) funny joke
>lurking here somewhere.
>The facilitator asked the sponsor, "do you want a book of
>proceedings created from your event?" And the sponsor said "no, I'm
>going for the aphanipoesis, but thanks."
>But seriously folks, do we assume that the passion and
>responsibility of a gathered group will create the requisite variety
>of topics/contexts to generate excellent Warm Data from a theme
>question, and foster these unseen transcontextual sources of systems
>changing creativity?
>Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying
>topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety?
>What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate
>post and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get
>posted, and does that limit the potential and health of the system?
>What can the OST methodology teach the WDL methodology, and vice versa?
>Early morning questions,
>Jeff
>On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 5:45 PM Peggy Holman via OSList
><mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>
> wrote:
> From what I can glean in Bateson’s article and what I have
>heard about Warm Data, what happens does sound parallel to what
>occurs when people meet in Open Space.
>I find her writing frustrating. But when one is attempting to
>give language to new ideas, it’s rough. The effort falls into a
>pattern she discusses: our tendency to want to relate to the
>ideas through habitual lenses. Sometimes more and different
>words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience.
>Perhaps a Warm Data Lab?
>I find her insight that we need a word for life coalescing
>towards vitality in unseen ways intriguing. By naming it, I hope
>it will become more seen. Sounds like something we want to
>notice and grow.
>Thanks for sending the article Jeff.
>
>Peggy Holman
>Co-founder
>Journalism That Matters
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> >
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>Twitter: @peggyholman
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>into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com>
>
>On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList
><mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >> wrote:
>
>Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work
>for sometime and although I don't fully understand it yet I
>think what I do know of it, it's great.).
>
>WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because
>this is how she has come to an understanding about the simple
>truths that Warm Data works with. God know we have some pretty
>funny language amongst us all to explain things like "let
>people look after things they care about."  But, Jeff, the
>first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and
>is a concise description of Warm Data process, and is very
>helpful to me having an "aha" about it.
>
>Chris
>
>On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList
><mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >> wrote:
>
>Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice
>of a methodology that she invented (I think.)
>
>Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks
>were figuring out what the hell this is all about... : )
>
>And from the lens of an artist and family therapy
>researcher whose father was Gregory Bateson. That makes
>sense to me...
>
>Warmly
>Jeff
>
>On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken
>mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com
> >>
>wrote:
>
>Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves
>practitioners to be simple,

Re: [OSList] Happy Birthday Harrison Owen

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Happy Birthday to our wonderful anti-Commander in Chief!

Chris

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 11:29 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> It's a bit early for martinis, so here's a cup of coffee raised, to honor
> your birthday from San Francisco!
>
> Thanks for inviting (i almost typed inciting) this global community of
> fine inspired madness.
>
> Warmly
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 10:42 AM Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Harrison. I am in a team preparing an Art of Hosting
>> training - I will coach participants to open space on Saturday - looking
>> forward to this physical training after a looong time online.
>> Sending you my love and appreciation
>> Thomas Herrmann
>>
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>> *Kopia:* David Osborne 
>> *Ämne:* Re: [OSList] Happy Birthday Harrison Owen
>>
>> Happy Birthday Harrison !!!
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 10:40 AM Harrison Owen via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks my friend
>>
>> ho
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList 
>> To: OSLIST 
>> Cc: Suzanne Daigle 
>> Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2021 10:18 am
>> Subject: [OSList] Happy Birthday Harrison Owen
>>
>> What a special day this is! December 2nd 2021, Harrison Owen's Birthday!
>> Harrison, you gave us the gift of Open Space Technology and we ran with
>> it. It is a gift that never stops giving, circling the world over and over,
>> in ways we never could have imagined. Gatherings in just about every
>> country of the world, we continue to invite and open space on important
>> issues with head and heart.
>> In these times, as never before, ignited by this 8 Billion Question, the
>> deep yearning to open more and more space, everywhere we go, wherever we
>> are, fuels us.
>> Happy Birthday dear Harrison from the thousands who love you, from the
>> thousands and thousands who sat in a circle experiencing open space
>> (face-to-face and virtually) and all those who have yet to meet and engage
>> in Open Space in the future.
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Re: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi comment

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Mark:

I have mostly been ignoring your posts around this but I have to speak out
now.

The leaders of the protest in Ottawa who have now been arrested include
people who are open, brazen white supremacists, anti-Semites,
anti-indigenous. Their views are all over the Internet. There are multiple
far right and racist groups and leaders in this protest. There are flying
their own flags and wearing their colours. They are not hiding. They are
not just misunderstood people. They are openly promoting fascism, racism,
white supremacy, xenophobia and anti-Senitism. There is an unbelievable
amount of hate being spouted all over the place by these protestors.  Most
of those who have followed them down this rabbit hole have failed to, or
just refused to, dissociate themselves from these people or their views.
There are very few people out there saying that these people don’t
represent them. Most who disagree with these views have long ago left the
protest site.

Their objectives when they arrived in Ottawa were to sign an MOU with the
Governor-General and the unelected Senate of the country to overthrow
Parliament. They were funded by donations that came mostly from outside the
country, mostly by Americans.

These facts are not in dispute.

Now I strongly believe in the right to protest. I understand people who are
frustrated by public health restrictions but the idea that a group of
people who broke hundreds of laws, who occupied the capital untouched for
THREE WEEKS and set up bouncy castles and hit tubs are somehow “living in a
tyranny” is an insult to the vast numbers of humans who struggle against
oppression, genocide, and repression all over the world INCLUDING those who
are arrested and brutalized defending their own Indigenous territories here
in Canada today.

Open space is about passion bounded by responsibility. It acknowledges that
you have the ability to create conversation and to take responsibility for
what you care about.

And so I canno longer let these messages on this list pass by without
taking the responsibility to point out that defense of these protestors and
especially the characterization of the racists and white supremacists in
the group as a few bad apples is deeply offensive to the hundreds of people
of colour, Jews, Muslims, LGBTQ and indigenous people on this list. I beg
of you that you reflect on who you are taking to in this forum and pause
for some self-reflection.

There is simply no place in the world to “yes but” when it comes to these
ideas. If you passionately feel that you should be allowed to hate, or
support and defend the right to promote hate, then that is you certainly
have a right. But I have a responsibility to point out the company you are
keeping and to denounce you.

Mark, I firmly believe that you have not understood the essence of Open
Space and your misunderstanding or willful ignorance of this situation
leading conflation of what we are doing in the world as facilitators with
the hate being spouted in Ottawa is deeply offensive.

I’m pointing this out to you and asking you to stop dragging Open Space
into this. I find your opinions inaccurate, untrustworthy, and intolerant.
There are many ways we can discuss freedom without defending fascists. But
if you insist on defending fascists I will speak up against you and defend
the dignity and rights of humans to live free from hate. I am anti-fascist
and anti-racist and I won’t let these ideas stand unchallenged.

Chris.




On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 10:05 AM Glenn Waters via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Enough of the nazi crap, please. I can't answer if you've misunderstood
> something but let me share some facts about what is going on.
>
> In general this is a peaceful group of people. There are however a number
> of people attending that are not peaceful. They harass, assault (physically
> and verbally), and torment people who live in this area.
>
> A large portion of the downtown is closed because it has been taken over.
> This is having real affect on those businesses that are already hanging on
> by their fingernails to stay in business.
>
> For the residents living in this area the only two nearby grocery stores
> have closed because they fear for the safety of their staff. Many other
> stores and restaurants are closed for safety reasons.
>
> Nazi flags have been flown, as have other symbols that are commonly
> associated with hate and supremacy.
>
> Well documented leaders of white supremacists groups are attending. This
> does appear to be the minority, but I don't have data. Some have been
> arrested in the last few days.
>
> Shifting to opinion.
>
> I don't think of what is happening a few kilometres from my home as a
> protest anymore. It is an occupation that is taking away from the freedoms
> of those who choose to live and work in Ottawa.
>
> The occupiers assets are not being seized. They are being frozen. As this
> is an occupation I am perfectly fine that.
>
> The occupiers are inc

Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I am for 

1. Creating new things to meet the undermet needs of people and the context and 
because innovation is fun

2. Sharing what we learn by doing so. 

3. A users guide that is clear on the basics. 

4. A history that is documented and rich so that people know what has gone into 
this communique of practice, the openness, sharing, support, struggle and 
discovery that makes this an example for how a small group of people can co 
evolve something valuable without ownership, politics or constraint. 

:)

Thanks to all who have been doing these things. 

Chris



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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:27 AM, paul levy via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, I agree with Harrison about learning from history. I think the stories, 
> poems and reflections in the archives have unique value.
> 
> Yet I'm also drawn to blank canvases and re-inventing the old without 
> realising it, as well as the metaphor of the Phoenix. Are we creating myths 
> about open space that are more dogma than vibrant folklore ? Is the Guide 
> turning into an Old Testament bible? I hope not. The best archives are the 
> ones to come, the best history lies up ahead.
> 
> The archives feel to me to be both a treasure chest and a cluttered attic.
> 
> Just worth exploring ?
> 
> Warm wishes 
> 
> Paul 
> 
>> On Thursday, 26 March 2015, Eleder_BuM  wrote:
>> Hi Paul, could you explain a bit longer your proposal and why you mean it ? 
>> (sorry, being English my third language, I didn´t catch the meaning of 
>> making a Phoenix, though I can imagine a bit,,, )
>> Thanks,
>> Eleder
>> 
>> 2015-03-25 21:49 GMT+01:00 paul levy via OSList 
>> :
>>> Am I the only one who thinks we should burn the whole lot and make a 
>>> Phoenix ?
>>> 
>>> Yours
>>> 
>>> Paul 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, 24 March 2015, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
  wrote:
 Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all 
 there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back 
 3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages. 
 Below is more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST 
 messages.
 
   Regards,
   Harold
 
 >
 > Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect 
 > you are
 > talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is 
 > normal
 > and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we 
 > expect 
 > users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!) 
 > prefers 
 > search to clicking a dozen times. 
 >
 >
 http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
 >
 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Jeff
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Re: [OSList] Mandated Process-Change (and "self organization") in the news

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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Can we "mandate collaboration?" Mandate self-organization? Does that actually 
> work?
> 

I guess we’ll find out how that works!

Keep an eye on Zappo and see how they do.  And keep asking why.

Chris

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Re: [OSList] OST: Public vs Private events: apples and oranges?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Daniel…

I think what you are proposing is interesting, measuring the conditions and how 
much of each there are.  I say generally, that the more of each you have, the 
better OST works.  But I’d never be able to really put a number on it.

And my experience is that there seems to be no difference between the 
likelihood of public or private events being anymore or less likely to exhibit 
these conditions. There is nothing inherent tin the ontology of these two kinds 
of events that would predict that.  The five pre-conditions do seem to point at 
specific factors in the ontology of an event that would make for a potentially 
richer OST event.  Radical transformation is rare and is never guaranteed.  But 
we can work with conditions to create potential.

in fact for me it comes down to the pre-work.  My experience is that sponsors 
of any event who are unwilling to do the pre-work to shape an intention and 
invitation and to design the architecture for implementation of the results 
(whatever those results are expected to be) will miss the mark on 
transformation.  (and this pre-work includes being clear about what they are 
NOT doing as well)

Like any event, the quality of the container matters.  Paying attention to the 
constraints and the attractors builds a container where a real need is allowed 
to produce real conversations which can create real action and ultimately 
change.  If you don’t break people’s patterns and expectations of a meeting or 
conference beforehand, it’s unlikely they will come prepared for 
transformation.  And that is the biggest predictor of “flat feeling” OST events 
for me.  

I think your text tagged  below is actually  and needs to 
be tested in some way.  But the test will apply to your practice, your context 
and the particular events that you are drawn or invited to.  The practice of 
working with clients in Open Space is impossible to standardize.  It is an 
artisanal practice.  There are a few basic skills and talents one needs to have 
developed in order to assure quality, but nothing can take the place of 
experience and the path of mastery that is individual and practice based.   

Chris

> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> And that is why I think OST is for "development and transformation in 
> organizations" (that actual subtitle of the SPIRIT book) and that it is not 
> at all as effective, in terms of impact, when implemented in a public 
> conference. 
> 
> 
> I am guessing the scores for the 4 dimensions are almost always be lower in a 
> public vs. private event. 
> 
> Certainly that is my general subjective observation, based on a small sample 
> of direct experience (less than 20 experiences doing OST inside 
> corporations...)

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Re: [OSList] OST: Public vs Private events: apples and oranges?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

You get what you prepare for (or not). 

So in terms of cohesion I think there is a correlation between how cohesive a 
group is and the intensity of engagement. I also think there is no way to know 
if you have enough or not enough cohesion. 

Instead it's about creating the conditions that invite the group into 
engagement. And invitation is not a noun but a verb. It is a way of being and 
talking about why we need to come together and meet. I like to invite people to 
participatory processes in participatory ways. If the conversation is important 
and strategic, I go find the people that need to be there and work closely with 
them. 

Of course let's be clear too that every OST event has its own purpose. I don't 
think I have ever used OST explicitly for transformation. And sometimes the 
purpose of an OST meeting is action and sometimes it isn't. Sometimes it's just 
learning. 

So it's hard for me to talk about how much cohesion is important for 
transformative potential to be activated. Instead my basic heuristic around 
building invitation is "Start the conversations long before the meeting 
begins."  

Chris

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> On Apr 28, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Daniel Mezick  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff, Chris, Michael and All,
> 
> First of all thanks for your engagement in the thread's topic; and adding to 
> the discussion.
> 
> And, I feel that I have to explain myself here. 
> 
> After sleeping on this, I have come to realize that part of what is 
> motivating me to post about "public vs private" events is 
> 
> .my limited experience in Open Space. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've attended dozens of public Agile-conference or software-conference events 
> with segments that included OST.
> I've arranged and helped to execute and participated in less than 20 OST 
> gathering held inside organizations.
> I've also attended a few Open-Space-community events that were all OST over 
> several days.
> That's not a huge amount of experience data and almost all of is 
> Agile-related. Agile being one kind of process change...
> 
> ...And so here is my "aha", and related confession: almost all of my OST 
> experience has been part of the Agile community (public conference events) or 
> using OST with Agile adoptions (private OST events.)
> 
> And the differences are very striking. And that's where I am starting from 
> when I discuss the divergences between public vs private events. My entire 
> experience is around Agile stuff. In in this space, the differences are, 
> well, striking.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The role of the Sponsor being an obvious example...
> 
> ...Chris contributes:
> "My experience is that sponsors of any event who are unwilling to do the 
> pre-work to shape an intention and invitation and to design the architecture 
> for implementation of the results (whatever those results are expected to be) 
> will miss the mark on transformation."
> 
> And with respect to private corporate events: you can say that again! 
> 
> Now if we look at the role of the Sponsor in a public event, say, an annual 
> confab, like in a community of practice, like the Agile community for 
> example, we can see some striking differences there. 
> 
> In a public event, almost anyone can stand up and welcome the group and 
> discuss the context, introduce the Facilitator, etc. So for example if the 
> conference Chair wanted to delegate this temporary Sponsor role to someone 
> else, they could, and the OST will not likely suffer from that. Because the 
> cohesion is low. The folks are only there for 1,2,3 days, that is the risk or 
> the investment or commitment to it. 
> 
> But if this Sponsor-delegation stuff happened in org, and someone with little 
> authority sent the invite, did the Sponsor role stand-up, welcoming etc, the 
> signal is clear: this event is not authorized and therefore has no oomph. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Sponsor role:
> 
> With Agile-adoption clients, I've seen this Sponsor-delegation stuff 
> suggested and have strongly guided against doing it, based on the hypothesis 
> that for process-change and other kinds of triggering transitions in 
> organizations, the OST event must be clearly and highly authorized. 
> 
> The Invite:
> 
> Plus: n most Agile-conference OST events, there IS NO INVITE WHATSOVER. The 
> invite is implied via the conference offer, and attending the event 
> constitutes acceptance of that "invite." Add to this the fact that the theme 
> is often emergent in nature, defined not weeks in advance but instead days or 
> hours in advance. 
> 
> The Proceedings:
> 
> Finally, the proceedings. In public events, they are often nonexistent or an 
> afterthought. In private events...WOW they are all over it. 
> 
> 
> Regarding Agile-related OST events: Not a whol

Re: [OSList] OST: T for Technology

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

It’s a great story full of Indian strategy, face saving moments, hinterland New 
York Times bureaux, and the wisdom never to counter free publicity…

Over to you Harrison!

Chris


> On May 5, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some folks do not consider open space to be a 'technology', hence the 
> reference to 'dumb'...
> 
> I am clueless: What is the origin story of the term "Open Space Technology?"
> 
> Does Japanese journalism play a role in this story? I heard maybe ...
> 
> On 5/5/15 3:16 AM, John Baxter wrote:
>> Daniel
>> I must have missed the memo where it was decided that 'Technology' was dumb 
>> : )
>> 
>> I personally use 'social technology', but the language we use to define 
>> objects in the social/cultural/information world is very nebulous... I guess 
>> because our conceptualisation is unclear.
>> 
>> Interesting article
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> John Baxter
>> Cocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> Greetings All, 
>> 
>> We say "Open Space Technology". 
>> 
>> 
>> So: Is Open Space "culture technology?" If so, maybe that "T" for technology 
>> is not so misplaced, after all...
>> 
>> ...maybe not so much of a joke, after all ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Culture Tech
>> 
>> 
>> If we look at the so-called "liberating structures" such as World Cafe, 
>> Fishbowl, OST, we can see these are generally grouped together under this 
>> "liberating structures" banner.
>> 
>> Many of them are designs for gatherings (aka "meetings" in some locales...)
>> 
>> I think the "liberating structures" such as World Cafe, Fishbowl, OST are 
>> actually, and in fact: "culture technology."
>> 
>> To this culture-tech list, we may safely add: Scrum. Sociocracy. Core 
>> Protocols.
>> 
>> And culture technology wants to be free.
>> 
>> And so I've written a little essay on that, you can see it here:
>> 
>> Culture Technology Wants To Be Free
>> https://medium.com/@DanielMezick/culture-technology-wants-to-be-free-c2e180a844a5
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So maybe the T in OST is not so dumb, after all?
>> 
>> Daniel 
>> 
>> 
>> Related Links:
>> 
>> Scrum Guide
>> http://www.scrumguides.org/scrum-guide.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Sociocratic Norms
>> http://wayofthecircle.org/pattern-language/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Core Protocols
>> http://liveingreatness.com/ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> PS. The Core Protocols folks, Michele & Jim McCarthy, call their stuff 
>> "software for your head." My current belief is that all culture-technologies 
>> (like OST for example?) are in fact 'software for your head."
>> 
>> PSS. (Sidebar question: My understanding is that a Japanese journalist 
>> coined this "OST" term and it stuck. What is the origin story of this term? 
>> Where can it be found on the web?)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OST: T for Technology

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

This.  Is.  Beautiful.

A deep bow my friend!

Chris

> On May 5, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Chris – You should know better than to suggest that I tell a story... But you 
> did.
>  
> It was 1989 in Bombay (now Mumbai). My friend and colleague, one V.S. Mahesh, 
> a senior member of the Tata Administrative Service Corps, had invited me to 
> do a series of lectures, in addition to an Open Space conference in Goa. How 
> could I resist? 
>  
> At the conclusion of the several programs, Mahesh convened a press conference 
> for the business reporters of India. This was rather a formal event, and in 
> the way of such things in India, Mahesh’s introduction of myself seemed to go 
> on forever. He covered my CV in detail, including articles and activities I 
> had forgotten, one of which was a review of a colleague’s book entitled, 
> “Global Management Principles.” This 725 page monster described the work of 4 
> management theorists under such headings as, “Primal Management,” 
> “Developmental Management,” – and last,  “Metaphysical Management,”  ...and 
> that was me.
>  
> As Mahesh drew to a heart stopping close, he said... It is my pleasure to 
> introduce Harrison Owen  ... and Harrison will you please explain to the 
> gentlemen of the press what you mean by Metaphysical Management and Open 
> Space...Technology. And he sat down.
>  
> I think I could have shot him. “Metaphysical Management” was the invention of 
> a colleague. I think I know what he was getting at, but it surely would not 
> have been my choice of wording. As for Open Space Technology, that was, I do 
> believe, Mahesh’s invention. “Open Space,” I admit to... as for “Technology” 
> – I can only think that Mahesh got on a roll. “Metaphysical Management” was 
> pretty cool. But “Open Space” was a little weak. Needed a tweak.  
> “Technology” might just make it into the titles of the next day’s articles. 
>  
> Mahesh was right. The Press took the bait. And we have been stuck with it 
> ever since. 
>  
> So that’s the story... as best as I can tell it. But I think there is a 
> moral. If we ever take what we are doing too seriously, we are definitely in 
> trouble. What we “do” is really a joke. Truthfully, it all happens by itself. 
> We just take naps... if we are smart.
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> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
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>  
> It’s a great story full of Indian strategy, face saving moments, hinterland 
> New York Times bureaux, and the wisdom never to counter free publicity…
>  
> Over to you Harrison!
>  
> Chris
>  
>  
>> On May 5, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Some folks do not consider open space to be a 'technology', hence the 
>> reference to 'dumb'...
>> 
>> I am clueless: What is the origin story of the term "Open Space Technology?"
>> 
>> Does Japanese journalism play a role in this story? I heard maybe ...
>> 
>> On 5/5/15 3:16 AM, John Baxter wrote:
>>> Daniel
>>> I must have missed the memo where it was decided that 'Technology' was dumb 
>>> : )
>>> 
>>> I personally use 'social technology', but the language we use to define 
>>> objects in the social/cultural/information world is very nebulous... I 
>>> guess because our conceptualisation is unclear.
>>>  
>>> Interesting article
>>>  
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>>  
>>> John Baxter
>>> Cocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/> | CoCreateADL.com 
>>> <http://cocreateadl.com/>
>>> 0405 447 829
>>> ​ | ​
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>>  
>>> Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City 
>>> Grill!
>>> Summa