OT: Manfrotto heads, please help!
Hello all, tomorrow I'm going to buy myself a new tripod. The choice is the 055PRO (former 455, Bogen #3021PRO), the one which offers the ability to mount the central column horizontally. I thought I'd take the Proball head (468RC, Bogen 3435QR) and get both precision and mobility but I discovered that this head is not reccommended with the tripod and (more important) is way out of my budget since it costs about twice the tripod. The remainig options are: the smaller 308RC (Bogen 3413QR) ballhead or the older 168 (Bogen 3055). I think I remember not very good comments about the last one and the first looks a bit too light for my liking. Do you have any experience or advice? Should I look at standard 3-way heads? The tripod will be used mainly for macro shots, then landscape photos and very little studio. Thanks in advance, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Jelly Donut (I've got your...)
It's a quick-and-dirty scan just now before I go to bed (I'll try to re-scan it later) but I've got your jelly donut right here: http://www.access.avernus.com/~glenn/jelly.html So, should I add fangs in photoshop, since I was too sleepy to fashion them out of icing when I took the photo? -- Glenn, who has to become an expert in two packages by monday, and is realizing that the downside of open-source free software is that the documentation is often written by amateur tech-writers. PS: Yes, still having sharpness problems with my scanner -- that's one of the things I'll try to fix on the next try. Got the Mac on the LAN at last, and will see if I do any better in Photoshop than I do with GIMP. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
In a message dated 2/8/01 10:35:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << PJ100 seems very similar to Royal Gold 100: >> Without meaning to instigate rancor, the two could not be more different. Royal Gold is a "consumer" film competing with the FUJI "enhanced color " brands. No way does it have the finesse available to Supra shooters; (remember, I'm a KODAK POE (Promise of Excellence) program "pro." << Sharp, very fine grain, and skin colors that somehow seem just a bit off, somehow.>> If by that you mean "natural," uncompromised by "enhancing" or "saturation," I might agree. But the color is not or never "off," (unless one is using a bad lens), or haven't changed the chemicals in one's JOBO processor. The Supras are hands down scanning champs. <<(Supra 100/PJ100 may be essentially the same emulsion as RG100 on a different color, easier-to-scan acetate. . . )>> The only meaningful comparison of Supra to any other print film is to compare it to EKTAPRESS PJ 100, Supra 100s direct antecedent. Any other comparison is a subjective stretch, my observation meant to contend, without being contentious. <> KODAK'S finest medium contrast "pro" emulsion against FUJI "consumer" films? Heresy! <> Which obviously "colors" your perceptions of the Supra breed. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
What are the black wiggly lines above/around the Fish on a stick? - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'd say you're off to a good start, > > Shel (and deserving of a "scanning > > ovation" - ). > > I'll take my ovations where and when I can. Thank you > > > I was surprised to see as much > > detail in the dark background > > as I was able to > > Maybe it was the lens/film/tripod combination that allows for > the detail. A*200/4.0 macro, Provia 100F, Bogen "Wilderness" > tripod weighed down with bricks, the legs extended only enough > to get the perspective I wanted, and spiked into the softish > ground. Personally, I'm not satisfied with the overall > sharpness of the transparency. > > > I was also surprised to see that > > the scan was only about 28K - I > > would have guessed 50K or more. > > The file is 83,215 bytes, colors are 24bpp (I'm not sure what > that means, but I thought you should know - maybe someone can > tell me what it is) > > > One request, though - is there a > > story behind the photo that you > > wouldn't mind sharing? > > Not much of one - nothing personal, anyway. I was just driving > down the highway and saw the scene, found a place to park the > car, set things up, and waited for the light and the wind to > be in my favor. I shot some B&W too, but haven't processed it > yet. I think that's in the next two or three rolls in the > processing queue. > > Thanks for your comments and kind remarks. > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
In a message dated 2/8/01 8:21:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << ot a free roll of fresh Kodak Supra 100 from the local photo profiteer today. So now what?>> Sniff its bouquet, smell of the softness, at the same time, explore its amazing sharpness (hands-down favorite of the scanning class). <> A crisp palette of muted colors and an astonishingly sharp film with sharp lenses re: the 85mm f/1.8. <> I don't know..I've never had a hankering to shoot Reala. But I would guess the Supra is softer, the muted but true colors mistaken for "less punchy." <> Since I can't compare Supra against the Fuji Mark, I'd be disingenuous making the comparison. <> Very fine, very tight and sharp, produces amazing 16 x 20 enlargements (with the understanding you've done your job: as in using your shapest lens). When you do, you'll gasp! <> Decidedly, even more so than my old favorite EKTAPRESS. <> Decidedly so-so, especially if you've become accustomed to the sometimes "false" (punched up) "enhanced"color of many Fuji print emulsions. <> Supra, either 100 or 800, will become one of your out the door bag favorites, the film you'll take along when you happen upon a soft venue and want to faithfully reproduce the moment and truly accurate photos when the opportunity presents itself, especially when you want top capture the moment when the venue offers softness like in a hushed Colorado fall when the Aspen colors are at their subtle best. Supra (And B&W) may be the only print film to bwe able to do justice to an ice-over stream. THAT'S when you'll grab for the Supra, or when a fair lady of porcelain skin appears, her visage literally begging for the Supra. *Definitely not a film to capture the brilliance of a lit Christmas tree but a favorite when fog is lifting from an early morning valley. In tonal range, it's the B&W of color emulsions without a ton od dodging and burning. Do you want rust to look like real rust instead of a spray painted movie set? Supra. Do you want the faint pink of a woman's lips in winter? Supra. As you probably noticed, I kinda like them. Suda Mafud, a member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I agree that the contrast is little more than I'd like, and if > there's a way to tone it down without upsetting some of the > other balances in the photo, I'd sure like to know about it. > I'm still playing around with contrast/brightness balances, and > clearly have a lot more to learn. Well, you can definitely tone it down using the contrast/brightness tool. The trick is to isolate those particular areas of the photo that need tweaking so you're not changing the entire image. Which program are you using? Every editing program should have a tool to manually draw a line around a certain area. My Photoshop 5.0 LE has a magic wand that can select an entire area of a certain tone once its sensitivity is set correctly, and that would let you change the white patches one patch at a time without affecting the rest of the image at all. Play around with it! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Virii (was Re:)
When I received the infected emails in my version of OE/5.50, my inbox indicated the message had an attachment. Perhaps it is how I have mine set up but when I receive a message with an attachment, OE tells me so in my inbox. Both of these messages showed an attachment in my inbox, and with an unknown address, went straight to my trash file. my wife uses Netscape for her email and Netscape defaults to a preview pane, which opens each email when you highlight it in the inbox. I think OE sets up that way as well, but I find that annoying as well as dangerous and disable that function immediately upon installation of the program. Perhaps it is how each uses configures their mail reader to handle attachments? And yeah, I know I need to update my NortonI'm using an old version of System Works, which I think came bundled with NAV 4.0. In fact, I need to get another AV software package as my Compaq just does not get along real well with Norton. DLL conflicts, etc..mainly in power management. Compaq's fix was to get McAfee! John - Original Message - From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: Re: OT:Virii (was Re:) > John Glover wrote: > > > > But I assume you had to open the email to get infected? If it has an attachment, I >do not even read the mail, just deletebut I suppose I need to update my Norton AV >to get something that does do email now as well > > But the email *didn't* have an obvious attachment - the virus was hidden > in a .signature block. > > If you have a version of Norton AV that doesn't do email protection > it must be very old. But I'd recommend getting a newer version, > and setting up a proxy email server. Get firewall pretection, too, > if you have an 'always on' internet connection (DSL, ISDN, etc.). > > -- > John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. > (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 > (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 > Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 8, 2001 9:08 PM Subject: My First Scan - Comments Welcome > Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans > I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the > color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg > -- I hate to say it, but the image content leaves me a bit cold. For me, it needs a bit of reportage to go along with it. Technically, the scan is quite good, though I find the red blobs on either side of the top of the cross to be disturbing. Not enough DOF to delineate them as individual leaves, but enough colour saturation to make it appear unnatural. For me, the cross is almost too bright compared to the background. I have the feeling that my monitor gamma is set too high for this image. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd say you're off to a good start, > Shel (and deserving of a "scanning > ovation" - ). I'll take my ovations where and when I can. Thank you > I was surprised to see as much > detail in the dark background > as I was able to Maybe it was the lens/film/tripod combination that allows for the detail. A*200/4.0 macro, Provia 100F, Bogen "Wilderness" tripod weighed down with bricks, the legs extended only enough to get the perspective I wanted, and spiked into the softish ground. Personally, I'm not satisfied with the overall sharpness of the transparency. > I was also surprised to see that > the scan was only about 28K - I > would have guessed 50K or more. The file is 83,215 bytes, colors are 24bpp (I'm not sure what that means, but I thought you should know - maybe someone can tell me what it is) > One request, though - is there a > story behind the photo that you > wouldn't mind sharing? Not much of one - nothing personal, anyway. I was just driving down the highway and saw the scene, found a place to park the car, set things up, and waited for the light and the wind to be in my favor. I shot some B&W too, but haven't processed it yet. I think that's in the next two or three rolls in the processing queue. Thanks for your comments and kind remarks. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Dan Scott wrote: > That said, the colors of > your plant life look a > little different from what > I am used to. Hi - What plant life would that be? The leaves on the trees? the grass? the ice plants? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Very good picture and scan. I've read the other comments above, and I think what is happening is that the web photo is optimized for a calibrated monitor but not for the web. When I first looked at the photo I was using my factory settings I saw a very dark background - the trees blended into black as did the grass, and the white trunks of the foreground trees did stand out. It looked like a nighttime photo. When I spotted the note about the red tinge of the tree leaves, I activated my calibrated settings for graphics - a different picture - it's daylight but overcast, the grass is green and the leaves red. The white tree trunks still stand out and I like that, and the cross in front stands out (it could be lightened just a tad more). Maris - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:08 PM Subject: My First Scan - Comments Welcome | Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans | I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the | color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. | | http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg | -- | Shel Belinkoff | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Odd. Couldn't get it to load at all in Navigator. Explorer did it, though. Anyway, Nice roadside memorial shot, Shel. I find these memorials fascinating. The scan looks pretty good overall, at least for the main subject. I agree that the white on the trees is distracting, but it does echo the color of the cross, so I wouldn't complain too loudly, except about the part sticking into the frame on the left edge. I need to know the story on those shoes. Doug At 11:16 PM -05002/8/01, Doug Franklin caused thus to appear: >On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:23:19 -0500, Doug Brewer wrote: > >> Seems to be broken, Shel. > >> At 7:08 PM -08002/8/01, Shel Belinkoff caused thus to appear: > >> >Comments would be appreciated. >> > >> >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg > >Worked just fine for me. > >Color looks good on my monitor. Subdued tonality works with the subject >matter. Contrast between the trees and the grass could use a little >more "oomph". The white on the trees is a little jarring. The contrast >between the symmetry of the two rows of trees with the asymmetry of the >doo-dads on the ground could either be endearing or disconcerting. I >haven't decided yet. :-) Overall I like the shot. > >TTYL, DougF -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS - fully automatic spotmatic rangefinder?
That is one of those high tech "professional" 0.42x converters, used to make your video camera lens into a wide angle lensessentially a reverse teleconverter. John - Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:52 AM Subject: Re: FS - fully automatic spotmatic rangefinder? > What in the world is the "wide converter" on the lens > > Bill, KG4LOV > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Check out the attached Yahoo auction description for another good laugh. > > Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy ! Also makes me want to trust this > new > > person to photo equipment auctions. > > > > > > http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/48934107 > > > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Hi Chris ... Thanks for your comments. > I find the contrast between the white > trunks and branches of some of the trees > and the rest of the trees themselves to > be a little overpowering, but I'm not sure > how much of that is the scan and how much > is in the original. I agree that the contrast is little more than I'd like, and if there's a way to tone it down without upsetting some of the other balances in the photo, I'd sure like to know about it. I'm still playing around with contrast/brightness balances, and clearly have a lot more to learn. > Other than that, I find the rest of the > photo to have quite a low contrast, which > works well to set off the glowing white cross. That's partly the result of waiting 45 minutes for the light to be right, and partly adjusting contrast/brightness in Photoshop. > What's with the yellow leaves on the 'flower' > in the foreground? The three on the left look > darker and more out of focus than the others, > and yet the blue flower on the right seems > mostly in focus and it looks further back. > Am I imagining that? The yellow flower was spinning when I snapped the shutter. The petals are of the type that catch the wind and the whole flower rotates. If you look carefully at all the leaves, you'll notice a softness about them due to their movement. While I notice the subtle (to my eyes on my monitor) difference in color as you noted, I can't say for sure why that is. Perhaps it's just the way the light is falling on the petals. I used a 200mm lens for this shot, and tried to keep the DOF relatively shallow, and since I was focusing on the cross, it's possible that surrounding items are showing greater or lesser sharpness because of the shallow DOF. Thanks a lot, Chris. Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 8, 2001 10:20 PM Subject: Re: Pentax LZ-A? > Yeah, I forgot about the slower speeds being unusable on the LX. > > I think I may be failing to grasp a key concept here. You said the mechanical speeds of the LX are only good in case of battery failure. Are you implying that the FM3A is designed to be usable as a full time manual? If so, why would they build it as an EM? Wouldn't the whole idea behind an EM shutter be the ability to keep shooting if the batteries fail? Wouldn't it be nice to have aperture preffered automatic and full batteryless manual? Not that I have a problem carrying batteries along with a spare roll or two of film. For myself, the whole idea of selling full mechanical opeation is a bit of a boondogle now. I do appreciate the 2 S-76 battery requirements (I presume) rather than 4 AA batteries, or worse, one of those stupid CR%J& lithioids William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Nice shot, Shel. It looks like a good scan too in terms of contrast and sharpness. The color is hard to judge without knowing what was in the scene. The color of the grass appears unnatural, but it could be a function of the light. The grass goes a bit toward the blue on my monitor. If you're working in PhotoShop you can pull back on a color with "hue and saturation," "curves," or "selective color." Sometimes I try each, and see which one produces the desired effect, since I can always "undo." Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans > I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the > color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photojournalism
Very good example and site. Thanks for the site. Maris - Original Message - From: "Bob Walkden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: OT: Photojournalism | Hi, | | further to the discussion recently about photojournalism being about | either war, famine, pestilence and death, or about goofy looking emus, | here is a great story which is neither, and which really only works as | photojournalism. | | Read the text that accompanies each photograph, and consider how | spectacularly dull & uninformative it would be without the | photographs. This is no story at all without the photos, but the | photos give us a great opportunity to see 2 very different societies | and realise not only how much they differ, but also how similar they | are. It's a really good example, imo, of photojournalism showing us | something about the world. | | http://www.reportage.org/2000/Newspapers/PagesNewspapers/newspaper01_title.h tml | | The pair of shots I like best is the one comparing the security guards | greeting the journalists as they arrive in the morning. | | -- | Cheers, | Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New MX User
Donna Lynn writes > > > I'm new to pentax and to manual photography. Always used full auto > > everything cameras. I am going to learn manual photography. Received > > a Pentax MX free, plan to learn on it. Would appreciate any help you > > can offer. Also, where can I get accessories for this discontinued > > model? Don't even really know what accessories were ever available. > Welcome to the list, Donna. The MX is a great camera. I use one frequently. It can be used with any bayonet mount made by or for Pentax 35mm cameras without any loss of function, since it is fully manual. You'll find those labeled SMC Pentax and SMC Pentax-M are generally the most affordable. Optically many of them are extremely good, particularly the older and slightly larger SMC Pentax variants. You can also obtain a motor winder for your MX, either through a camera store that sells used equipment, like KEH (www.keh.com) or through ebay auctions. The winder will allow you to shoot two frames per second in continuous mode and will advance the film automatically in single shot mode. A motor drive is also available. The motor drive will provide a considerably faster frame rate. I believe the MX unit does around four frames per second. Another nice feature is the removable viewfinder screen. A number of different screens are available for specialized use, such as with extremely long telephoto lenses, with macro lenses, etc. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
I seem to think it is great for most everything you listed. I haven't used it for portraits (which I rarely do), but under daylight, the colors seem to be little punchy, but smoothly so, more pleasing and warmer than Reala. I stopped using Reala the day I got my first Supra 100 roll back from the lab - seriously, I have never shot a roll of Reala since then and it was over 1 year ago. Supra 100 has replaced Reala as my low speed neg film of choice, except for an occasional roll of Impressa 50. I also switched from NHG II 800 to Supra 800, though the difference between those 2 is less. To me, the color of prints using Supra 100 were natural and balanced well, making Reala appear to have a tendency to be overly bluish or greenish. I think Supra does a better job than Reala of capturing the yellow/red range colors. http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/supra/supra.shtml "The SUPRA 400 and SUPRA 800 Films are new. SUPRA 100 film is a renaming of KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTAPRESS Film PJ100" "The new SUPRA Films provide substantial grain, sharpness, and skin-tone reproduction improvements over the EKTAPRESS Films. " "SUPRA Films are designed to be push-processed, scanned and enlarged, and feature a vibrant color palette. These characteristics make SUPRA Films the ideal choice for commercial applications such as photojournalism, stock, and fashion photography." I think the above statements give an accurate view of the Supra films. Cheers, Gerald - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect > Got a free roll of fresh Kodak Supra 100 from the local photo > profiteer today. So now what? What can I expect from it? How > does it compare to Reala? Are the colors punchy or more > natural? Is it a contrasty film, or more subdued? How's the > grain? Tight and sharp? Good for portraits? Scenics? Any > comments would be appreciated. Thanks! > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "When you photograph people in color, you photograph > their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, > you photograph their souls." > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
Yeah, I forgot about the slower speeds being unusable on the LX. I think I may be failing to grasp a key concept here. You said the mechanical speeds of the LX are only good in case of battery failure. Are you implying that the FM3A is designed to be usable as a full time manual? If so, why would they build it as an EM? Wouldn't the whole idea behind an EM shutter be the ability to keep shooting if the batteries fail? I'm not picking on you, I swear. You just bring up some interesting thoughts. Doug At 8:51 PM -06002/8/01, Mike Johnston caused thus to appear: > >The LX only does the trick at 1/75th and faster. The FM3A does it at all >speeds. The LX shutter is hardly usable full time as a manual shutter--it's >a nice feature, but really only good for temporary or emergency use in case >of battery failure. > >--Mike -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:23:19 -0500, Doug Brewer wrote: > Seems to be broken, Shel. > At 7:08 PM -08002/8/01, Shel Belinkoff caused thus to appear: > >Comments would be appreciated. > > > >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg Worked just fine for me. Color looks good on my monitor. Subdued tonality works with the subject matter. Contrast between the trees and the grass could use a little more "oomph". The white on the trees is a little jarring. The contrast between the symmetry of the two rows of trees with the asymmetry of the doo-dads on the ground could either be endearing or disconcerting. I haven't decided yet. :-) Overall I like the shot. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
I'm not sure how it compares to Reala, but it's less contrasty than Portra and the colors are a bit more natural. To my mind it's chief virtue is that it produces excellent scans from the negative. This seems to be related to its slightly subdued contrast. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Got a free roll of fresh Kodak Supra 100 from the local photo > profiteer today. So now what? What can I expect from it? How > does it compare to Reala? Are the colors punchy or more > natural? Is it a contrasty film, or more subdued? How's the > grain? Tight and sharp? Good for portraits? Scenics? Any > comments would be appreciated. Thanks! > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "When you photograph people in color, you photograph > their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, > you photograph their souls." > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
How does the Supra 100 compare the Royal Gold 100? I dont think Supra is imported to Australia where i am. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect > I've shot several rolls of Supra 100. It is punchier and more contrasty > than Reala, but then almost anything is. Grain looks pretty good on scans. > Better than Portra 160. Skin tones looked really good on both light and > dark skin. I have quite liked it. It might even replace my heavy use of > Portra. I find that my scanner (Minolta Dual Scan Plus) handles it quite > well. That is my first quick look. I'm going to shoot some more and hope > to have a better feel soon. If you'd like, I can send you a scan or two at > 1200 dpi so you can see. > > On a similar vein, I am trying to find the finest grained (sharpest) 35mm > print film that will do well with portraits. Current candidates are Fuji > Reala, Supra 100, Konica Impressa 50 (got to check the skin tones) and > ?. Anybody have any experience to share? > > Thanks, > > Bruce Dayton > Sacramento, CA > > > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:14 PM > Subject: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect > > > > Got a free roll of fresh Kodak Supra 100 from the local photo > > profiteer today. So now what? What can I expect from it? How > > does it compare to Reala? Are the colors punchy or more > > natural? Is it a contrasty film, or more subdued? How's the > > grain? Tight and sharp? Good for portraits? Scenics? Any > > comments would be appreciated. Thanks! > > -- > > Shel Belinkoff > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "When you photograph people in color, you photograph > > their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, > > you photograph their souls." > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
In a message dated 2/8/2001 10:16:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans >I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the >color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg I'd say you're off to a good start, Shel (and deserving of a "scanning ovation" - ). I was surprised to see as much detail in the dark background as I was able to (many photos under similar conditions could be just "pretty murky back there"). I was also surprised to see that the scan was only about 28K - I would have guessed 50K or more. Good job. One request, though - is there a story behind the photo that you wouldn't mind sharing? Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Hi Shel, There is a lot of variability in monitors, so you can never really be sure how things will look on anyone else's monitor. That said, the colors of your plant life look a little different from what I am used to. The man made items look normal to me. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans >I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the >color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. > >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg >-- >Shel Belinkoff >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans I've > done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the color > rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. Hi, Shel. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the colour rendition, since I wasn't there when you took the photo, but it seems nice enough on my monitor (which has never been calibrated to any particular standard, just FYI). I love the way that the red of the trees comes across as delicate and almost etherial. Subtle, and it works for me. I find the contrast between the white trunks and branches of some of the trees and the rest of the trees themselves to be a little overpowering, but I'm not sure how much of that is the scan and how much is in the original. Other than that, I find the rest of the photo to have quite a low contrast, which works well to set off the glowing white cross. The foreground colours do set themselves off nicely from the background without being gaudy, IMO. What's with the yellow leaves on the 'flower' in the foreground? The three on the left look darker and more out of focus than the others, and yet the blue flower on the right seems mostly in focus and it looks further back. Am I imagining that? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
Shel Belinkoff asked about Kodak Supra 100. Supra 100 is a new name for Kodak's Ektapress PJ100, to go with the new Supra 400 and 800 emulsions. PJ100 seems very similar to Royal Gold 100: Sharp, very fine grain, and skin colors that somehow seem just a bit off, somehow. (Supra 100/PJ100 may be essentially the same emulsion as RG100 on a different color, easier-to-scan acetate. . . ) My impression is that it's in the same league as Superia-Reala, with a bit less color accuracy in purples. I happen to prefer Reala. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Seems to be broken, Shel. Doug At 7:08 PM -08002/8/01, Shel Belinkoff caused thus to appear: >Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans >I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the >color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. > >http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg >-- >Shel Belinkoff -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Comments would be appreciated. This is one of the first scans I've done. I'd especially like to know what you think of the color rendition, the tonality, and the contrast. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/roadside32.jpg -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Decent LX deal on ebay
Looks like a newer one, with the new shutter box possibly. "David P. Chernicoff" wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1213551390 -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My best work is often almost unconscious and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it." -Sam Abell; "Stay This Moment" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
SETH wrote: > Not exactly. FM3A mechanical shutter is supposed to operate at all > shutter speeds. LX only works at above 1/75. Aside from that, LX > is still a better (and more expensive) camera. And the LX has a true MLU feature !! I notice that the advertising material for the FM3A seems to suggest that the shutter is dampened to a point that MLU is redundant. Now the 645 also makes a similar claim; wonder if this will be the case with the MZ-S ...the next few days should tell. Mike. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Decent LX deal on ebay
if you act quick - http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1213551390 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet
Jerry in Houston wrote: > My wife is a photography student at a college in > Houston but it is way too far to go just to develop a few rolls of film, so > we do our negs at home. Once you finalize on your film and developer > combinations it becomes quite simple even though we can only load the > cannisters at night...a changing bag is in the budget Jerry, Good for you! It's a lot easier than most people realize. People think it's tough to develop film without a darkroom, but it's not hard at all. I've had access to darkrooms most of my adult life, but I've always developed film at the kitchen sink. All you need is a dark place to load the film, as you've discovered. For the last three years my "loading room" has been...my bedroom closet. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
Doug wrote: > Mike, > > So the big deal is that Nikon is going to market as > "new" a type of shutter that the LX used for twenty > years? > > Doug The LX only does the trick at 1/75th and faster. The FM3A does it at all speeds. The LX shutter is hardly usable full time as a manual shutter--it's a nice feature, but really only good for temporary or emergency use in case of battery failure. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fw: Référencement de votre site
I'm not that great at it myself, but here's a rough idea: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: > > Cher Webmaster, Dear Stoat-face, > > Le logiciel Netboussole a été lancé en novembre 2000 et 20.000 > utilisateurs surfent régulièrement grâce à cet outil daide à la > navigation. The software program "Netcompass" was launched in November 2000 and 20,000 users surf regularly thanks to this utility to help navigation. > > Votre site est accessible sur notre logiciel. En tapant lurl > de votre site, vous constaterez que Netboussole reconnaît > automatiquement la rubrique dans laquelle il a été référencé. Your site is accessible on our software. By [maybe they mean 'typing'?] the URL (which is the English abbreviation) of your site, you note that Netcompass automatically recognizes the heading/rubric in which it has been referenced [linked?] > > Nous espérons que vous êtes satisfaits de ce référencement et > que vous avez bénéficié des 450.000 visites que nous avons déjà > générées grâce à Netboussole. We hope that you are satisfied with this link and that you have benefitted from the 450,000 visists that you have already generated thanks to Netcompass. > > Un espace webmaster a été créé pour vous sur le site > Netboussole. Il vous permet de : > > - nous envoyer gratuitement vos bannières et référencer > Netboussole sur votre site, > > - participer à l'amélioration de Netboussole en nous envoyant > vos commentaires, remarques et conseils A webmaster space has been created for you on the Netcompass site. It allows you to: --send us your banners for free and link Netcompass with your site, --participate in the improvement of Netcompass and send us your comments, remarks and advice. > > Pour visiter l'espace webmaster, cliquez sur le lien suivant : > http://194.79.157.110/Netboussole/rd2.php?ref=NB3-366-1 In order to visit the webmaster space, click on the following link: > > Pour une présentation détaillée de Netboussole, cliquez ici > http://194.79.157.110/Netboussole/rd2.php?ref=NB3-366-2 For a detailed presentation of Netcompass, click here: > > A très bientôt. See you very soon. > > Olivier Reix, Responsable webmaster Netboussole > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Olivier Reix, Responsible stoat-head of Netcompass I'm sure that I've mangled this horribly, so I trust that someone will jump in and provide a real translation. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect
I've shot several rolls of Supra 100. It is punchier and more contrasty than Reala, but then almost anything is. Grain looks pretty good on scans. Better than Portra 160. Skin tones looked really good on both light and dark skin. I have quite liked it. It might even replace my heavy use of Portra. I find that my scanner (Minolta Dual Scan Plus) handles it quite well. That is my first quick look. I'm going to shoot some more and hope to have a better feel soon. If you'd like, I can send you a scan or two at 1200 dpi so you can see. On a similar vein, I am trying to find the finest grained (sharpest) 35mm print film that will do well with portraits. Current candidates are Fuji Reala, Supra 100, Konica Impressa 50 (got to check the skin tones) and ?. Anybody have any experience to share? Thanks, Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Kodak Supra 100: What to Expect > Got a free roll of fresh Kodak Supra 100 from the local photo > profiteer today. So now what? What can I expect from it? How > does it compare to Reala? Are the colors punchy or more > natural? Is it a contrasty film, or more subdued? How's the > grain? Tight and sharp? Good for portraits? Scenics? Any > comments would be appreciated. Thanks! > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "When you photograph people in color, you photograph > their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, > you photograph their souls." > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New MX User
Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > please stand by - our expert staff in the MX dept will > be here to assist you at any moment !8^D > > a most excellent camera, by the way! Hi Bill - Where's Ted? A most excellent response, BTW . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a 30 year old Fujica ST-901 that has a stepless electronic shutter > from 2 sec to 1/2000 on auto and 1/60 to 1/1000 plus B on manual. Doesn't > sound like a big deal to me It may not be, unless your batteries have died and you need to take shot at a slow shutter speed. > > "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So the big deal is that Nikon is going to market as > > > "new" a type of shutter that the LX used for twenty > > > years? > > > > Not exactly. FM3A mechanical shutter is supposed to operate at all > > shutter speeds. LX only works at above 1/75. Aside from that, LX > > is still a better (and more expensive) camera. > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Black 43/1.9 Limited
Hi, Does anybody know where in the world black 43/1.9's are sold ? Is it only Japan, if so how much do they cost ? Did someone mention previously rumours of black 43/1.9's in the States ? Thanks Rob "But I WANT a Black one !!" Gillespie PS Just gave up looking at Yodobashi, my Japanese is not good !! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My work on-line
Hi everybody, I proudly announce the birth of the on-line version of one of the magazines I work for. Its name is "Infrazioni", you can find it at http://www.infrazioni.it/ It is a magazine edited by the members of an association (Associazione Itaca) that attends to the needy children of my region. Warning: the site is in Italian only... The full size images can be seen by downloading the .pdf files of the pages where is written: "Sfoglia il giornale*"; it's not the fastest way to see them, but... better than nothing. You can also look at the thumbnails on the left, where you can have access to the articles. There is only a shot, if I'm correct, not taken by me: the portrait on page 2 of the current issue. All except two shots have been taken with Pentax equipment. Let me know what you think. Ciao, Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: UK Photo Stores, etc.
Thanks Bob and Cotty and I guess Mike for the definition. I'm going to check the web site in regards to VAT, etc. It seems pretty thorough. Sincerely, Jim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
dosk wrote: > > > > Someone has mentioned here on this list that one can get a virus (or worm, > > > or trojan) just by opening e-mail. This is, I believe, one of the many > > > unfounded, slightly paranoid, rumors about viruses. (Virii?) > > > > I assure you that both the statements made about being able to get > > infected simply by opening mail were true. In fact in one case you > > didn't even need to explicitly open the email - Microsoft Outlook > > would automatically open the last email fetched from the post office. > > I don't spread unfounded, inaccurate rumours. > > Assure me all you want. Just because you say something is true, doesn't make > it so. I have never seen any proof anywhere, or any article, in PC World or > any other such mags, that such sophisticated viruses exist anywhere outside > of anyone's imagination. In fact, there's a website entirely devoted to > denouncing such wild virus rumors (I'll see if I can get it's URL for you if > you want), and they also claim that many of these so called super viruses > are just so much BS See http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/weekly/aa121500a.htm (which took me all of 20 seconds to find by going to a websearch site) While most of the viruses discussed there do show up as attachments, the kak.worm doesn't - that's the one that hides in a .signature block. They describe it as 'the most prevalent infector of 2000'. > But you won't be able to show me a virus that comes thru (to Outlook Express > now, mind you) as an .eml or .jpg. The virus creators are not such > super-brains that they can turn just plain viewable data into operational > code... That's exactly the scenario with kak.worm - the virus is in the .signature, not in the body of the email message. And that wasn't subject to the checks. Furthermore, as many others have pointed out, if you have "Hide Extensions for know File Types" turned on (or even if you don't, in some cases), the displayed extension can be .eml, or .jpg, or anything you like. The virus creators don't turn viewable data into operational code - they just disguise operational code so at first glance it appears to be plain viewable data, hoping to trick somebody into clicking on it. > >But you don't do anyone any favours by spreading false > > assurances that "this kind of thing can't happen", > > How dare you put quote marks around a statement like that! Where in the hell > did I say anything like that? I love you people who make up your own > interpretations as to what other people say, and then put quote marks around > them...! So in what way does calling a report an unfounded and paranoid rumo(u)r differ from saying "this kind of thing can't happen" ? It wasn't my interpretation; you made the claim. Or are you objecting on the grounds that I put quotation marks around a paraphrase, not the exact words? > I've been running OE for 4 years, and have caught only one virus. And that > was in the first year, before I had a good virus killer program. (Dr. > Solomon sucked.) Since I've gotten a better one, in the past three years > only one other virus tried to invade my system, and the virus killer program > (InoculateIt) picked it right up and stomped it! (It also, along with the > unpaid help of several InoculateIt telephone consultants, showed me how to > effectively get rid of that first virus that Dr. Solomon completely > missed..) I've never had my home systems infected. At work I've been infected, once, (by the 'monkey' virus, which one of my co-workers spread onto my NT machine by rebooting with an infected floppy in the drive - that was hard to guard against in the days before virus-aware BIOSes, and before you could set the boot order to skip the floppies). Here at SGI I've caught several attempted infections (most frequently Melissa and ILoveYou) which aren't very good at attacking a Unix box running a MIPS port of Netscape. But it does at least let me see how many viruses there are running around trying to mess with my system. > Some people like to emphasize the problems. Others, the solutions... > Skip Odd - that's what I thought *I* was doing, in my earlier postings, until you came along and publicly disagreed. I've provided a link to back up my position. And if you think I'm being paranoid on the subject of email, maybe you are right. I'd rather be paranoid than infected. As for other attacks - take a look at a firewall log, sometime, and see how long it takes for the first breakin attempt when a new node goes online. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at
Re: Focus rails
On 02/08/2001 03:42, mike wilson opined: >www.novoflex.com is the address of a good site. They do have UK >reps. as far as I remember. Pentax makes one. It's pricey. Most of the New York Mail Order places have them under their own name, like Cambron. They are marketed under Vivitar, Spiratone, etc. But all the same with different paste in labels, and less than the $200 Pentax wants for theirs by half. If you're doing Macro, use a bellows instead of a Macro lens, and you've got a Micro Focusing Rail built in with the bottom positioning block! JoMac, Imagineer with Camera - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
Hi ... As others have posted, I have not had a single instance of receiving mail from their special advertisers. I delete cookies every day, and I have some software that cruises my drives looking for advertising software - none has ever been found. dosk wrote: > > Registering with the NY Times is definitely not free! They are just about > the only newspaper in the country that requires you to accept their cookies, > and then they send your address out to their "special advertisers". (Read, > spammers!) Subscribe to any other newspaper (such as the Washington Post, > maybe), because almost all of the others are truly "free"! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My best work is often almost unconscious and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it." -Sam Abell; "Stay This Moment" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
R: "PENTAX" (tm) was not Asahi's at first!?
As I wote some time ago, the Pentax name was KW/Pentacon (tm) in South Africa only, where they marketed cine projectors under that brand name. KW already used the name Pentax for a prototype medium format camera which never saw light as a mass-produced product. It looks like they missed registering the Pentax name (since for some time the eastern block didn't agree on western rules about patents and copyright) and Asahi could take it (but South-Africa). It is evident that some time later Asahi agreed with Pentacon about the Pentax name in South Africa too. Bye, Dario Bonazza http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: "PENTAX" (tm) was not Asahi's at first!? > > I just got this piece of info from one of my history-wise friends at > Praktica group: > > *** > Frantisek, regarding trademarks, do you know that the name "Pentax" was > originally owned by KW? A range of KW cine equipment was made under the > Pentax name but I suspect Asahi made an arrangement with KW to use it > for its cameras. > *** > > few explanations: KW was a camera maker in Germany, later merged (afaik) > into VEB PENTACON. They certainly had (tm) Pentaflex for some of the later > cameras. I do now know personally if the bit about Pentax is true too, but > the person who told it is usually spot-on. KW also had hands in the first > Prakticas. > > Frantisek > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
Nice little gallery, Colin. I especially liked Wave near Nugget Point, Otago. This is exactly the kind of result I'm looking for, and after seeing these, realize I can easily make it's output usable with some editing of raw scans like I do for the S20 (which, BTW, does a lousy job itself on most of my shots when it automatically controls everything). Thanks, Gerald - Original Message - From: "Colin & Linda McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:36 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner? > Gerald Cermak wrote: > > > > I'm gentle on equipment, but the real question is, could I get 1000 scans > > out of it? 1? Are the scans workable with good editors? I've been > > using a Photosmart S20 for 1.5 years, and have finally figured my way around > > it's limitations to get fairly decent scans. They both are 36-bit, and I > > primarily scan negs, so I'll be losing batch capability. I plan on just > > using it's TWAIN drivers on Win2000, so as long as I can extra a decent > > 12-bits per color at 1800 dpi without much alteration by the drivers > > themselves, I think I can adjust/tweak/sharpen the image into nice web and > > email pix. Right? Is it good enough to accomplish this? That's my real > > question. > > > > Remember that I asked about this getting me through a slump for a few months > > until the next generation 4000 dpi are out. This is strictly for a hobby > > (albeit an expensive one!). I figured I could use the 1800U for a few > > months, upgrade to a 4000 dpi multi-format, and sell the 1800U for $100. > > This would allow me to scan at a decent quality vs. not at all (for a few > > months). I think I would jones pretty bad with a film scanner for a few > > months. :) > > > > Cheers, > > Gerald > > For some results from this scanner check out: > http://www.geocities.com/travel_light2000/ > The site is under construction and not really ready for viewing, but all > images there are PF1800U output. Also see our entries for the December > and January PUG. > > As for reliability, all I can say is that we have probably done 1000 > scans without problems. The software is upgraded regularly at: > http://www.scanace.com/drv_pf1800.shtm > > Hope this helps, > > Colin > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
"PENTAX" (tm) was not Asahi's at first!?
I just got this piece of info from one of my history-wise friends at Praktica group: *** Frantisek, regarding trademarks, do you know that the name "Pentax" was originally owned by KW? A range of KW cine equipment was made under the Pentax name but I suspect Asahi made an arrangement with KW to use it for its cameras. *** few explanations: KW was a camera maker in Germany, later merged (afaik) into VEB PENTACON. They certainly had (tm) Pentaflex for some of the later cameras. I do now know personally if the bit about Pentax is true too, but the person who told it is usually spot-on. KW also had hands in the first Prakticas. Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: re:A lens that only fits on plastic lens mount
At 14:29 7.2.2001 -0600, Cy Galley wrote: >Many plastics are so tough that a bullet will bounce off without a trace. No >scratch, No Dent. Try that with metal! Yes, that's great. But are these great plastics used in the cheap cameras' lens mounts? Hahaha! Nope! No way a "modern" company designs something which will last a lifetime and not overprice it at least thrice at the same time... And experience of many photographers proves wrong that metal mounts will not last - and if they bend, they can maybe even be machined ANEW (I had few Pentax K mounts - lens side - machined for converted lenses by a great machinist - and they fitted as well as original!). With plastic - out of stock, out of option. 70 years old cameras are still functioning greatly. What MZ-50 will function after mere 7 years? (or just 3 years?) Frantisek (who is sad that things are not made to last anymore... We used to have boots that will last generations - I even inherited few. Now even my super-expensive trekking Gore-tex boots don't last more than 5-10 years at most) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dof Preview??
At 08:14 8.2.2001 -0800, you wrote: >Personally, I still have trouble getting any useful idea of >depth of field by using the depth of field preview but I do find >it invaluable for judging the quality of the out-of-focus >background in macro shots. I tend to think of it as a "quality >of bokeh preview" button. > Also, it's quite good to judge flare (which pretty much disappears with most lenses, but sometimes gets worse) stopped down - I found DOF preview INVALUABLE for flare preview in my wideangle landscapes (hey, even my SMC lens flares :) Frantisek (btw, a cheap, not most secure but still better than nothing DOF-P can be had on ANY pentax body by half-way turning the lens out. Try it, but don't lose the grip on the lens :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
"Matamoros, Cesar A." wrote: > > I have to reply to this one. > > Being from NY and living away from there I have been subscribed to > the NY Times for about two years now. I have not had a single instance of > receiving mail from their special advertisers. Concerning 'cookies' I > delete them after every session as I do for all others. My experience is like yours, Cesar. I read the Times over the internet most days. I accept its cookie and do not delete it, although I delete most cookies after each session. (Cookie management software allows me to delete all but ones I designate to keep.) The advantage of keeping the Times cookie is that without it you have to log on with a password each visit, a PITA. Keeping the cookie makes that unnecessary. And the only e-mails I ever have gotten from the Times involve Times things -- announcements of new features at the web site and the like, and I never get any ads from Times advertisers. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: EI2000 (was:RE: Discontinued FA 4/28-70 AL ?!? (RE: A 35-70 f3.5-4.5 - comments?)
Oops. Mea culpa. I am sorry! I must have read it somewhere - the local phot zines are just full of crap! Ok, that's good news! I had the wrong impression. True optical viewfinder is of course much better, even with beamsplitter! I actually filmed few times with Super-8 cameras with same thing, and propably it's quite brighter than them. Fr >This is not exactly true. The camera has a true TTL >optical viewfinder that sees through the lens similar >to that of a 35mm SLR. However, the viewfinder of the >EI2000 does not work with a flip-up mirror but with a >beam splitter. This beam splitter sends the light [...] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?)
Hi, dosk wrote: [...] > Also, a question; as DOF deepens the more you stop down a lens, would a 1.0 > lens, perhaps because of all that much more glass available, have a > proportionately better DOF at say 1.2, 1.4, 1.7, 2.0, etc, etc?? > Skip No. It doesn't matter what the largest aperture is, the depth of field at the other apertures remains the same for every lens, all other things being equal. So the dof at f/2 on an f/1 lens is the same as the dof at f/2 on an f/2 lens. -- Cheers, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: UK Photo Stores, etc.
Hi, Mike Johnston wrote: > Bob Walkden wrote: >> 2 more shops in Pied Bull Yard, can't remember the names >> Museum Cameras flew by night... > For our foreign members who may not know the meaning of this term, I offer > this definition, from the book _2107 Curious Word Origins, Sayings, and > Expressions, from White Elephant to Song and Dance_: > Fly-by-night > Quite properly, anyone who is a "fly-by-night" is one who decamps secretly > or departs hurriedly or clandestinely, usually at night, from a scene of > recent activity, as from solicitous creditors or from anxious purchasers of > worthless mining stocks or the like. In any case, he is a four-flusher, a [...] which, I'm reliably informed, is exactly what happened. It seems that the owner backed a van up to the door sometime after midnight, loaded up the remaining stock (which included George Rodger's Nikons), and disappeared, never to be seen again. -- Cheers, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Discontinued FA 4/28-70 AL ?!? (RE: A 35-70 f3.5-4.5 - comments?)
At 22:14 7.2.2001 -0600, you wrote: >I heard a Pentax rep state about a month ago that the PZ-1p production was stopped and Pentax did not plan to fill back orders on the camera, in favor of the new MZ-S. > >John A pity :( I hoped I could get one cheaper if the price falls, but now doubt it with this news. Fr. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Lens sharpness
Leave the centre of the filter free of Vaseline, and use a hood, else the Vaseline will show up very white. You can play with the ratio between the covered and uncovered area. Frits. > I read this tip somewhere about getting a cheap > plain(eg. skylight) filter and spreading some vaseline > on it to soften the picture. Have never tried it, but > it probably works. Although could be a bit messy. Or > just get a softening filter. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: KM&newbie questions
Is iemand geinteresseerd in de Nederlandstalige uitvoering van de MX gebruiksaanwijzing? Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
> > Someone has mentioned here on this list that one can get a virus (or worm, > > or trojan) just by opening e-mail. This is, I believe, one of the many > > unfounded, slightly paranoid, rumors about viruses. (Virii?) > > I assure you that both the statements made about being able to get > infected simply by opening mail were true. In fact in one case you > didn't even need to explicitly open the email - Microsoft Outlook > would automatically open the last email fetched from the post office. > I don't spread unfounded, inaccurate rumours. Assure me all you want. Just because you say something is true, doesn't make it so. I have never seen any proof anywhere, or any article, in PC World or any other such mags, that such sophisticated viruses exist anywhere outside of anyone's imagination. In fact, there's a website entirely devoted to denouncing such wild virus rumors (I'll see if I can get it's URL for you if you want), and they also claim that many of these so called super viruses are just so much BS > > Email comes through to a Microsoft O/S system (such as Windows) as the file > > extension, .eml, ONLY. Windows does nothing with .eml extensions except > > designate them as words for you to look at. > > There is nothing that tells it, "there is code here for the O/S to execute > > and do something with". The same holds true for .jpg extensions, which are > > designated as pictures for you to only look at. > > Much, much, misinformation. First of all ".eml" is an application- > specific file type (or extension); if you don't happen to be using > that specific email program you will never see .eml (Netscape > Messenger, for example, stores email in a completely different way) Yeah, ok, but I was only talking about Outlook Express (and specificially, version 5.0) here anyway, wasn't I? How are you helping things by talking about apples when I'm talking about oranges? > > On the other hand, .exe extensions are very dangerous (as are some others), > > as when opened they tell the Windows O/S that this is an operating program > > and you should do what it says... > > (There is a vast difference, within not only Microsoft but all computer > > O/S's, between simple readable or viewable data, and operational code.) > > Unfortunately this line has got very blurred. Email can contain embedded > HTML, which in turn can contain embedded JAVA or JavaScript. > It's rare to see a virus with a .exe payload extension, too. The recent > ones have been attacking other extensions (such as .vbs, .scr, or .pif). > Add to that the habit of hiding the real extension , and what looks like > an innocent file name like MeNude.jpg can really be MeNude.jpg.pif I did say other extensions besides .exe are dangerous too, although not specifying them, didn't I? Your .vbs, .scr, pif, warnings are true enough. But you won't be able to show me a virus that comes thru (to Outlook Express now, mind you) as an .eml or .jpg. The virus creators are not such super-brains that they can turn just plain viewable data into operational code... Also, O/S-5.0's pop-up box shows the entire file name, even if it be Nonsense.jpg.pif.exe.vbs.. > > In Outlook Express (version 5.0) there is an excellent option available. > > Whenever you dbl-click on an email extension a pop-up says, "All email > > extensions have the potential for danger" (or something similar to this) > > "-do you want to open this now or load it to disk?" (And when this question > > is asked, at this time, and only at this time, OE/5.0 then shows what the > > actual file extension is...) > > Outlook Express is actually rather less error-prone than full Outlook. > But the default install for either of them leaves some options set in > a way that leaves gaping security holes that script-kiddies are only > too eager to exploit. Not that Microsoft is the only culprit, by any > means; default install options from Eudora, Netscape, or iPlanet all > have similar weaknesses. It's just that Microsoft is particularly bad, > and is most frequently targetted by virus creators (often because that's > the mail system they are most familiar with, but sometimes simply > because Microsoft is viewed with contempt by the hacker community). Hackers are not virus creators. Hackers are avid computer geeks who sometimes like to break into top security sites (and sometimes leave messages that they did so) just to prove they have the wherewithall to do so. Most of them wouldn't be caught dead creating a "simple" virus that harms everyday people. Your labling of them (hackers) as virus creators betrays your one sided beliefs... > > > Always answering this question with "load it to disk" takes but an extra few > > seconds and allows any of the various virus killer programs (the good ones, > > anyway) to check out the file. If it is not a clean file, you should > > (depending upon which virus killer program you are using) get immediate (and > > pronounced ) bells, whistles, warn
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
aimcompute writes: > I haven't checked to see if there were any software > updates or not. Maybe there are. There are new drivers on their website dated Jan 2001. Gerry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Virus!!! re: message from Richard C Graham w/o subject
> > I guess that means that there isn't a lot you can do > for people using Outlook Express. Or can you change > that option to allow the final extension to be > displayed? It's been so long since I last fooled > around with Outlook I don't remember. I always enable > extension display in Windows no matter what version I > am using. > I have downloaded an update for my Outlook98 which will block all dangerous attachments. The virus we got was blocked because of this, even if I want to open it I might not be able to do it. Not showing the last extension is a setting in Windows, so a virus can hide life stages.txt.shs or something like that. The innocent user thinks he opens a text file which can't contain a virus. This setting can be changed in the registry, be careful when editing and make a backup first. The following text is from www.nai.com about this subject: One significance of this exploitation of SHS files is that it raises awareness to the fact that the extension is not shown, even if a system is configured to "show all files" and "show extensions of known file types". This is due to a registry entry for Shell Scrap file types: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ShellScrap "NeverShowExt"="0" Users can correct this by either deleting the entry named "NeverShowExt" or rename it to "AlwaysShowExt". If renaming the entry, user must log off and log back into Windows for the change to take effect. I hope this is of help, Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Virii (was Re:)
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > >John Glover wrote: > > > > > > But I assume you had to open the email to get infected? If it has an > > attachment, I do not even read the mail, just deletebut I suppose I > > need to update my Norton AV to get something that does do email now as well > > > >But the email *didn't* have an obvious attachment - the virus was hidden > >in a .signature block. > > > >-- > >John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. > > Fortunately, using Eudora Pro 4.x, the attachment showed up as > an associated icon with the name. Made it easy to detect. > Eudora is a recommended product. Curse those dangling anticedents! Yes, the latest TIAZINHA virus does show up as an attachment. The "the email" I referred to in the paragraph snipped above was meant to refer to a different virus mentioned earlier in the thread - one that hid itself inside a .signature block, and thus presented a rather different appearance. I don't think Eudora was vulnerable to that one, either - only Outlook. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
I have to reply to this one. Being from NY and living away from there I have been subscribed to the NY Times for about two years now. I have not had a single instance of receiving mail from their special advertisers. Concerning 'cookies' I delete them after every session as I do for all others. Just my experience, César Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: dosk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded > Face > > Registering with the NY Times is definitely not free! They are just about > the only newspaper in the country that requires you to accept their > cookies, > and then they send your address out to their "special advertisers". (Read, > spammers!) Subscribe to any other newspaper (such as the Washington Post, > maybe), because almost all of the others are truly "free"! > Skip > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:54 AM > Subject: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face > > > > > > Hi - > > > > HC-B was photographed by DDD using an old Pentax. HC-B was not > > happy. Read all about it here: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/08/arts/08ARTS.html?pagewanted=all > > > > You may have to register with the New York Times in order to > > read this article. It's easy and it's free. > > > > > > Shel Belinkoff > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "When you photograph people in color, you photograph > > their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, > > you photograph their souls." -- Ted Grant > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: We don't need no steenkeeng geography (was: Re: MZ-S Info NotYet)
Mike J. wrote: > Bob wrote: > > My knowledge of western Europe is much better than my knowledge of eastern > > Europe. When I was in school, eastern Europe was part of the 'Evil Empire', > > behind the 'Iron Curtain' and somewhere few folks traveled. > > As Wheatfield Wille would say, "har!" Your knowledge of "western" Europe > isn't so hot either! > > (I'm presuming you're joking here...the former Yugoslavia was never "behind > the iron curtain," and Reagan's fantasy "evil empire" was the Soviet Union > and its dominions--specifically, the Warsaw Pact countries. Saying Tito was > a Soviet pawn is about as accurate as a European saying that Castro is an > American one.) Mike, I'd say your statement is misleading, at least from a Western European point of view. While Yugoslavia was not a member of the Warsaw Pact, and while Yougoslavia held a more independent position visavi the Soviet Union, and while it established it's own type of Yugo-communism, it was still considered an Easter European communist country, and as such for a reason lumped together with the rest of the communist world "behind the iron curtain", where indeed fewer folks would travel than for instance in Western countries. I have no idea why you imply that Bob S. said that Tito was a Soviet pawn, as he didn't say anything of the kind. But your own analogy, where you seem to say that Tito's regime was as far from the Soviet regime as is Castro's from the U.S., is simply grossly misleading. The Yugoslavian communist regime was indeed ideologically closer to the Soviet regime than it was to any type of Western democracy. In his friendly message, I'd say Bob got it correct enough. (And certainly he didn't ask for an argument.) So stop picking on Bob now, or I'll put a spell on all your Pentax lenses that will make all the glass float away... :) Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
Gerald Cermak wrote: > > I'm gentle on equipment, but the real question is, could I get 1000 scans > out of it? 1? Are the scans workable with good editors? I've been > using a Photosmart S20 for 1.5 years, and have finally figured my way around > it's limitations to get fairly decent scans. They both are 36-bit, and I > primarily scan negs, so I'll be losing batch capability. I plan on just > using it's TWAIN drivers on Win2000, so as long as I can extra a decent > 12-bits per color at 1800 dpi without much alteration by the drivers > themselves, I think I can adjust/tweak/sharpen the image into nice web and > email pix. Right? Is it good enough to accomplish this? That's my real > question. > > Remember that I asked about this getting me through a slump for a few months > until the next generation 4000 dpi are out. This is strictly for a hobby > (albeit an expensive one!). I figured I could use the 1800U for a few > months, upgrade to a 4000 dpi multi-format, and sell the 1800U for $100. > This would allow me to scan at a decent quality vs. not at all (for a few > months). I think I would jones pretty bad with a film scanner for a few > months. :) > > Cheers, > Gerald For some results from this scanner check out: http://www.geocities.com/travel_light2000/ The site is under construction and not really ready for viewing, but all images there are PF1800U output. Also see our entries for the December and January PUG. As for reliability, all I can say is that we have probably done 1000 scans without problems. The software is upgraded regularly at: http://www.scanace.com/drv_pf1800.shtm Hope this helps, Colin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1-P flash vs. handheld meter
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just got a Minolta meter -- the IV, with flash and > ambient reading > capability. Checked the TTL of my PZ1-P vs. the > meter, and here's what I > found: > > 1. The PZ-1P is consistently about 2/3 stop hotter > with TTL than it needs to > be... but it is consistent. > > 2. At closer ranges with a diffuser on the flash, it > comes quite close, at > about 1/2 stop hot. > > Compared my Minolta to a friends and got the same > readings. He shoots Canon, > and says his Canons typically are a bit hotter as > well. Any thoughts from > anyone on this? > > Also, when I use the PZ-1P's flash compensation, > cutting the output by 1 EV > doesn't seem to lower the output very much at all; > even going -3 doesn't move > the output down much more than a stop. Why is this? > > == pete == > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > The reflected meter will vary according to what color the subject is, becuase not all colors reflect the sam eamount of light. An ambient meter reads teh actual amount of light reaching an object, therefore is unaffected by colors etc... Try your experiment again this time shooting into an 18% gray card, since camera meters are calibrated for 18% gray. Also, since the flash is metered off the film plane, and the pressure plate has a different reflectivity than a roll of film does you will get different flash output if you have a roll of film in vs an empty camera. Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?)
Yes. Focal length, f/stop and allowable circle of confusion are the sole determiners of DOF. All lenses for 35mm cameras of the same focal length and at the same f/stop will have the same DOF. It's a physical thing. Regards, Bob... --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: Re: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?) > Also, a question; as DOF deepens the more you stop down a lens, would a 1.0 > lens, perhaps because of all that much more glass available, have a > proportionately better DOF at say 1.2, 1.4, 1.7, 2.0, etc, etc?? > Skip > > > AFAIK all 50mm lens at ie f4 will have the same dof (as all 100mm or 135mm or > whatever, at the same f stop, the same dof) I think it's sort of a phisic rule. > Of course, bokeh, sharpness and contrast are other issues - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Virii (was Re:)
>John Glover wrote: > > > > But I assume you had to open the email to get infected? If it has an > attachment, I do not even read the mail, just deletebut I suppose I > need to update my Norton AV to get something that does do email now as well > >But the email *didn't* have an obvious attachment - the virus was hidden >in a .signature block. > >-- >John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. Fortunately, using Eudora Pro 4.x, the attachment showed up as an associated icon with the name. Made it easy to detect. Eudora is a recommended product. Collin *** "The accumulation of all powers legislative, executive and judiciary in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." --James Madison, Federalist 47 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Geography query
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Is Ljubljana near Ulan Bator? Yes, both locations are on this planet. Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
I don't really expect Pentax to answer, as they never had anything to compete with FM2n anyway. But if the so called "retro-camera" that some people think Pentax might build is like the FM3a it would be nice. Todd At 10:02 AM 2/8/01 +0100, you wrote: >What will Pentax do to beat the FM3A?? > >THE WORLD IS WAITING! > >The Nikon users are in heaven. What about us? I don't need a computer with motor, I want a >REAL CAMERA(tm). > >Best wishes >Wieland > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
As far as 10,000 scans is concerned. I personally doubt it. With the mechanical noises I hear when mine is in use, I'd not be sure about a 1000. Call me a pessimist. Still... I was in much the same boat as you. Away from home I had a choice of scanning vs. not scanning. Was it worth it for me? Probably yes. Was I somewhat disappointed because a $200 scanner was not as good as a $450 scanner? Yes. Was I surprised? No. Unfortunately the work load I was under at the time prevented me from using it for probably 2 months after receiving it. Had I opened it right away and found these problems I would probably have sent it back and exchanged it for a new one. Now? I haven't checked to see if there were any software updates or not. Maybe there are. Tom C. -Original Message- From: Gerald Cermak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner? >I'm gentle on equipment, but the real question is, could I get 1000 scans >out of it? 1? Are the scans workable with good editors? I've been >using a Photosmart S20 for 1.5 years, and have finally figured my way around >it's limitations to get fairly decent scans. They both are 36-bit, and I >primarily scan negs, so I'll be losing batch capability. I plan on just >using it's TWAIN drivers on Win2000, so as long as I can extra a decent >12-bits per color at 1800 dpi without much alteration by the drivers >themselves, I think I can adjust/tweak/sharpen the image into nice web and >email pix. Right? Is it good enough to accomplish this? That's my real >question. > >Remember that I asked about this getting me through a slump for a few months >until the next generation 4000 dpi are out. This is strictly for a hobby >(albeit an expensive one!). I figured I could use the 1800U for a few >months, upgrade to a 4000 dpi multi-format, and sell the 1800U for $100. >This would allow me to scan at a decent quality vs. not at all (for a few >months). I think I would jones pretty bad with a film scanner for a few >months. :) > >Cheers, >Gerald > > >- Original Message - >From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:25 PM >Subject: Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner? > > >> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Colin & Linda McKie wrote: >> >> > On the plus side, it's robust and portable, >> >> Hmmm... maybe my quick assessment of its build quality is out to >> lunch. Ok, I'll rephrase it. Sitting next to a Nikon LS2000, it looks >> flimsy. >> >> chris >> >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> >> > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: TTL Flash for Macro?
>Hi Leon, Hello, >>Yes this is a pain of a setup but it gives plenty of >>light and at 7 times magnification to the film I want all the depth of >>field I can get! > >Wow. 7X? Well it's actually about 6.8 - Pentax bellows M with 50 mm f 1.4 reverse mounted at full extension and a 2 time teleconverter between camera and bellows. >>When I want to travel light I have actually made a double headed flash >>from a Pentax AF240FT and a Mecablitz 34BCT. I simply removed the > >Is the Mecablitz flash tube wired in parallel with the flash tube in the >AF240, using the electronics in the 240 to control both tubes, or are the >two flash units just powered in parallel with the electronics from each >controlling their respective tubes? The Mecablitz tube is just in parallel with the AF240 and all the controlling is done by the AF240. When I was putting it together I was slightly worried about the extra drain being too much for the components in the AF240 but it's been used for over 100 pictures so far and test fired several hundred times on a Z1p and SF1n. >>I can >>easily correctly expose at 1:1 at f32 with a Sigma 105 f2.8 EX using >>this setup, and the lighting looks good too. > >That sounds good to me. Do you have any pix on your site you can point me >to done with this setup? How do you figure exposure once you get over 1:1? No pics as yet, but I intend to at some point. The setup is not really pretty but it does work well - I built it as a prototype but unless it physically falls apart I probably won't change it. All exposure control is done TTL, I haven't got hold of a flash meter to test manual modes. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: inside a Mac, was Re: Reducing excessive sharpness in portraits - 1st try
It happened to a friend of mine. He had an older PowerPC, and it got full of dust and it toasted the board. The repair person basically told him it was trash, despite the fact drive still spun up and stuff. I never took a look at but I don't have any reason to doubt him. He got a PC to replace it by the way. As for iMacs I realize they do have 1 PCI slot, but that will not get you very far. My PC has 4 PCI slots, all filled, and that doesn't even include the video which sits in it's own AGP slot. I would not be happy with just one. The iMac gets help because most have the Lan cards built in though, while few PCs do this. But you can't have much room to ather upgrades, especially since the video, sound, are part of the motherboard and the chip is basically soldiered on. And the monitor is part of the computer. Todd At 08:56 PM 2/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >Todd Stanley wrote: >> >> Hard to say. Maybe they had the all-in-one Macs, or an iMac. From what I >> have seen those computers are not made to be taken apart, upgraded (besides >> adding ram or hooking stuff up externally), or even parted out if they >> croak. > >Ever opened one up? Or when you say "from what I have seen" do you mean >"from looking at the outside of the computer"? > >-Aaron > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
I have one. I used it to scan my last 3 or 4 PUG submissions. Bought it to use with my laptop while working out of town. My general impressions: 1. You basically get what you pay for, maybe a little less in this case. 2. I have a Minolta Dimage Scan Dual, and while I have not scanned the same image back to back, I think the scans on the Minolta, which is 2820 dpi I think, look better than with the PrimeFilm. I think they even look better when scanned at only 800 dpi (yes 800 not 1800). I'm subjectively referring to the sharpness, crispness, in-focus quality of the image after scanning. 3. The following has occurred repeatedly: After in use for about 20 minutes, the finished scan arrives in my Image Editor (Corel PhotoPaint 7 on my laptop), as a set of posterized colorblocks. You know how it seems a lot of musicians have copied the Beatles Let it Be album cover but in weird colors? That's what the scans look like. Turning the scanner off/on corrects the problem. 4. I attempted to scan a slide for the last PUG that I ultimately gave up on (I don't have my Minolta out of the box after moving yet). The image was of the side of a boat with a door and portholes, lit by the setting sun. The entire image was a coppery orange metallic color. When scanned, the door and only the door was interpreted as being a blue color. In terms of old Crayola crayons, it was Cornflower blue. I took the slide out and looked again. It was definitely orange on the slide. I tried 3 or 4 more times. Everytime, the door, and only the door was blue in the resulting digitized image. I gave up, deciding I would scan it some other time with the Minolta. 5. The scanning software itself is less than perfect. The preview window often contains artifacts or does not show the image just scanned. Sometimes this can be corrected by going spastic with the mouse and then the image shows up. 6. The physical positioning of the slide or negative in the scanner is not very positive. By that I mean you slide it in, and there's nothing that really tells you that you have it positioned correctly, You can probably move the film between 1/8 to 1/4 inch, lock it down and scan. Sometimes I have had it positioned to far in or even slightly crooked, and then had to reposition it and scan again. All this being said, it was better than no scanner at all. It is very light and compact. I don't think it compares in quality to film scanners twice it's price. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:11:29 +1100, Paul Jones wrote: >How much are these scanners worth in Australia? and where did you pick yours >up from? Paul, I got mine from the Scanner Place in Box Hill, but Ted's have them now for about AU$450. You can read up on it at http://www.scanace.com/pro_pf1800-index.shtm There is a driver update on the internet available at http://www.scanace.com/drv_pf1800.shtm Hope this helps Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wanted Super A plate and advice
Like Dave says, there never was a cover. I bought the camera new in '83 and no cover. Look closely, a cover won't fit over the mechanism. No problem though, the '83 Super Program is still going strong. Regards, Bob S. Dave wrote: <> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?)
Also, a question; as DOF deepens the more you stop down a lens, would a 1.0 lens, perhaps because of all that much more glass available, have a proportionately better DOF at say 1.2, 1.4, 1.7, 2.0, etc, etc?? Skip AFAIK all 50mm lens at ie f4 will have the same dof (as all 100mm or 135mm or whatever, at the same f stop, the same dof) I think it's sort of a phisic rule. Of course, bokeh, sharpness and contrast are other issues Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
Robert Harris writes: > Interesting article. I like this line, even though I do not agree > fully > > Mr. Cartier-Bresson added, "A flash is like rape." I think I can appreciate the gist of his comment. Some people like to slink around in dark or barely lit areas, and a flash takes it away without their permission. I personally rarely use a flash, preferring natural light and grain to harsh shadows and red-eye. Cheers, Gerald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet
The only dedicated piece we have is a double Paterson developing tank (about $20 and a second 35mm reel for $7 at B&H). The only other specialized item would be a simple dial thermometer for a few bucks. I use a thermocouple on my VOM which I already had. I use commonly available 1 and 2 liter plastic soda bottles to keep my stock chemicals inand a cheap plastic funnel. I use a liquid single shot developer (Ilfosol S) mixed 1:9. Kodak Indicator Stop Bath, Kodak Quick Fixer, Hypoclear, and photoflo. I mix all chemicals with distilled water. I work at the kitchen sink and use the timer on my microwave and rinse using the kitchen sink. Between use I keep everything in a dark closet. I use plastic clothes pins to hang up the negs in the bathroom to dry (least dusty place in the house). Then cut em and put em in polyethylene sheets. Right now we have to load the can at night in the back bathroom but then you can develop it whenever you want. We are planning on getting a large changing bag soon which would let us load the can anytime we want. Jerry in Houston -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet Hi Jerry, What was your initial investment? Dan Scott (in San Antonio) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I think that Mike is exactly right. We live in an apartment and do not have >any darkroom capability. My wife is a photography student at a college in >Houston but it is way too far to go just to develop a few rolls of film, so >we do our negs at home. Once you finalize on your film and developer >combinations it becomes quite simple even though we can only load the >cannisters at night...a changing bag is in the budget. I use Ilford almost >exclusively, Ilfosol S because it is a liquid, single shot, and works great >with my choices of Ilford B/W films. After developing, cutting, and storing >the negs I look at them on a light box using an 8X loupe. From this I >decide which negs to have printed at the pro lab. Yesterday I sent a 120 >B/W neg to the lab to have printed on the Fuji Frontier system (10x10 @ >$8.50) that does so nicely on my color transparencies. The counter person >advised that I may not like the results because it would be printed on color >paper, but since it was just a test I would go ahead and try it. I am also >having another, similar B/W neg, custom printed (10x10 @ $14.00 USD). I >will be interested in how the two compare. > >Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: We don't need no steenkeeng geography (was: Re: MZ-S Info Not Yet)
Mike, I stand corrected. (Is it really western Europe?) I know Tito seemed to have some independence from the Soviet Union although he was a communist and aligned with their block. He preserved some independence because the terrain was so difficult to conquor. At the height of the cold war, we would have lumped him in with the rest of the Soviet Block...as in 'kill all the commies and let God sort it out.' Those were scarry times, especially for a kid who figured the H-bomb landing in downtown Chicago had a kill radius that made practicing ducking under his at school a kind of pointless effort. Crispy critters we would have been... Regards, Bob S. Mike wrote: << Bob wrote: > > My knowledge of western Europe is much better than > my knowledge of eastern Europe. When I was in > school, eastern Europe was part of the 'Evil > Empire', behind the 'Iron Curtain' and somewhere > few folks traveled. > As Wheatfield Wille would say, "har!" Your knowledge of "western" Europe isn't so hot either! (I'm presuming you're joking here...the former Yugoslavia was never "behind the iron curtain," and Reagan's fantasy "evil empire" was the Soviet Union and its dominions--specifically, the Warsaw Pact countries. Saying Tito was a Soviet pawn is about as accurate as a European saying that Castro is an American one.) --Mike >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus, I Was The Guilty Party
Don't be too harsh with him, Bob. After all, but for him sending around the virus -- by accident, I assume -- we non-Brazilians never would have discovered the real Tiazinha. Bob Bob Blakely wrote: > > Bad boy. No cookie. > > Har! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus, I Was The Guilty Party
It probably wasn't your fault. Once you become inflected, many virus just attach themselves to your out going mail... WITHOUT your knowledge. - Original Message - From: "dick graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Virus, I Was The Guilty Party > My apologies to all, I was the SOB that inadvertently sent the virus out > earlier this week. My humblest apologies to all. I have been "de-loused" > so everything I send should be fine now. > > DG > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
dosk wrote: > > Outlook Express users, do not despair.. > > Someone has mentioned here on this list that one can get a virus (or worm, > or trojan) just by opening e-mail. This is, I believe, one of the many > unfounded, slightly paranoid, rumors about viruses. (Virii?) I assure you that both the statements made about being able to get infected simply by opening mail were true. In fact in one case you didn't even need to explicitly open the email - Microsoft Outlook would automatically open the last email fetched from the post office. I don't spread unfounded, inaccurate rumours. > Email comes through to a Microsoft O/S system (such as Windows) as the file > extension, .eml, ONLY. Windows does nothing with .eml extensions except > designate them as words for you to look at. > There is nothing that tells it, "there is code here for the O/S to execute > and do something with". The same holds true for .jpg extensions, which are > designated as pictures for you to only look at. Much, much, misinformation. First of all ".eml" is an application- specific file type (or extension); if you don't happen to be using that specific email program you will never see .eml (Netscape Messenger, for example, stores email in a completely different way) > On the other hand, .exe extensions are very dangerous (as are some others), > as when opened they tell the Windows O/S that this is an operating program > and you should do what it says... > (There is a vast difference, within not only Microsoft but all computer > O/S's, between simple readable or viewable data, and operational code.) Unfortunately this line has got very blurred. Email can contain embedded HTML, which in turn can contain embedded JAVA or JavaScript. It's rare to see a virus with a .exe payload extension, too. The recent ones have been attacking other extensions (such as .vbs, .scr, or .pif). Add to that the habit of hiding the real extension , and what looks like an innocent file name like MeNude.jpg can really be MeNude.jpg.pif > In Outlook Express (version 5.0) there is an excellent option available. > Whenever you dbl-click on an email extension a pop-up says, "All email > extensions have the potential for danger" (or something similar to this) > "-do you want to open this now or load it to disk?" (And when this question > is asked, at this time, and only at this time, OE/5.0 then shows what the > actual file extension is...) Outlook Express is actually rather less error-prone than full Outlook. But the default install for either of them leaves some options set in a way that leaves gaping security holes that script-kiddies are only too eager to exploit. Not that Microsoft is the only culprit, by any means; default install options from Eudora, Netscape, or iPlanet all have similar weaknesses. It's just that Microsoft is particularly bad, and is most frequently targetted by virus creators (often because that's the mail system they are most familiar with, but sometimes simply because Microsoft is viewed with contempt by the hacker community). > Always answering this question with "load it to disk" takes but an extra few > seconds and allows any of the various virus killer programs (the good ones, > anyway) to check out the file. If it is not a clean file, you should > (depending upon which virus killer program you are using) get immediate (and > pronounced ) bells, whistles, warnings, not to proceed with opening this > extension, and sometimes even automatic deletions. If the file is judged > clean, you get no further messages and can then open it in relative safety. > > (Nothing is ever perfect however; on very very rare occasions a new type > virus comes along that the killer programs are not prepared for. (There was > even a virus killer once, a Norton program I think it was, that was released > with a virus in it!) But again, this kind of stuff is extremely rare. Also, > most good virus killers have constant online update options to catch up with > these occasional new things.) > I sometimes think there are more computer problems caused by virus rumors > than there are by viruses... That may be true. But you don't do anyone any favours by spreading false assurances that "this kind of thing can't happen", or by making unfounded suggestions that people better informed than you are paranoid ignorami. You could always check the claims, first, rather than simply pooh-pooing them. There are several good sites that describe the various types of virus attack, and just what weaknesses they exploit. McAfee and Norton each have a site, which would be a good starting place. Don't believe everything they tell you, of course - they always take the worst view of things (they are, after all, trying to sell you there software). But the facts (rather than their interpretation) are there if you care to look. You can also get some information from the Microsoft site, by looking at the program patches and updates they have made available.
When in da hell?
Somebody told he saw the 24-90 in a store in Japan. But somebody knows when in da hell it will be buyable in the usa? I'm in Argentina, but I have a guy who can buy it for me there. Thanks Albano, with anxiety - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet
Dan Scott wondered: > You can also very easily do you own proof sheet using a lamp > and a couple of trays in the bathroom. it's really fairly easy, Dan. In the dark, you lay out your paper and put the negs (in a sleeve page) over it and cover w/ a piece of clean glass to flatten everything out. Then turn on a modest wattage light bulb above this sandwich. There are various ways to determine the optimal time for the light to be on, but I have found one of the "density wedge" gizmos from Kodak to be easy & sufficient. It's just a plastic piece w/ varying densities arranged in a "pie- shape" - so you expose for 1 minute (or multiples/fractions thereof) and read the # of seconds off the wedge that has the best exposure. You'll need three plastic containers big enuf to hold your paper (lots to choose from in department stores) and some Dektol, Stop & Fixer. Rinse 'em off in the tub in another larger platic gizmo. costs are actually very low for home development. Just need to get developer, stop, fixer & I like to use hypo-clear to speed the washing stage. most any continer will do for storage if kept in a dark closet. A small 2-reel developing tank, any clock w/ a second hand and a decent thermometer which covers the 68-85 degF range is a big plus, worth picking up even an overpriced one at a photostore. remember, we measure the *developer* temperature, not just the ambient air temperature ;^) - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?)
Previous message: > BTW, how sharp the A 1.2 is at 1.0 ;-) (the DOF at 1.0 is propably NONE, so > I would say that lens would be actually UNUSABLE for photography! You would > get almost nothing or every time the bad thing in focus. Like tip of > person's nose, but not their eyes. Perhaps nice for creative effects, but > at that cost? Canon snobbery, of course! That's very interesting. Something I hadn't thought of It seems a quite logical truism, but I would still like to hear from someone who's actual used a name brand (Leitz, Canon) 1.0 lens to confirm this... Also, a question; as DOF deepens the more you stop down a lens, would a 1.0 lens, perhaps because of all that much more glass available, have a proportionately better DOF at say 1.2, 1.4, 1.7, 2.0, etc, etc?? Skip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet
Simple version. You need two trays, a light bulb (60W), glass from an 8x10 picture frame, darkroom light bulb, paper developer and fixer. Put the negs in one of those archive sleeves, lay the glass over the top, turn on the dark room light, slide a piece of 8x10 paper under the negs, hold the light bulb a feet over the negs, turn on the light for about 10 seconds (might have to play with the time), throw the paper in the developer, then fixer, wash and voila a contact sheet Norm - Original Message - From: Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet > Hi Norm, > > How do you do that? > > Dan Scott > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >You can also very easily do you own proof sheet using a lamp and a couple of > >trays in the bathroom. Then view the sheets instead of the negs or both. You > >can get a better idea of your final print that way before you spend the > >money at the pro lab. > >Norm > >From: Lewis, Gerald > >> After developing, cutting, and storing > >> the negs I look at them on a light box using an 8X loupe. From this I > >> decide which negs to have printed at the pro lab. > > > >- > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
I tend to agree more with HC-B's sentiment ... Robert Harris wrote: > Interesting article. I like this line, > even though I do not agree fully > > Mr. Cartier-Bresson added, "A flash is like rape." -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "When you photograph people in color, you photograph their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, you photograph their souls." - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS - fully automatic spotmatic rangefinder?
I liked the "VIDEO wide angle converter" That really if "pro"!!! Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: FS - fully automatic spotmatic rangefinder? > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, W Keith Mosier wrote: > > > Check out the attached Yahoo auction description for another good laugh. > > Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy ! Also makes me want to trust this new > > person to photo equipment auctions. > > Well, I wasn't interested in it until I saw that it was a "definite > professional camera." I guess that settles our periodic discussion over > what makes a professional. :) > > chris > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Virus, I Was The Guilty Party
My apologies to all, I was the SOB that inadvertently sent the virus out earlier this week. My humblest apologies to all. I have been "de-loused" so everything I send should be fine now. DG - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
Outlook Express users, do not despair.. Someone has mentioned here on this list that one can get a virus (or worm, or trojan) just by opening e-mail. This is, I believe, one of the many unfounded, slightly paranoid, rumors about viruses. (Virii?) Email comes through to a Microsoft O/S system (such as Windows) as the file extension, .eml, ONLY. Windows does nothing with .eml extensions except designate them as words for you to look at. There is nothing that tells it, "there is code here for the O/S to execute and do something with". The same holds true for .jpg extensions, which are designated as pictures for you to only look at. On the other hand, .exe extensions are very dangerous (as are some others), as when opened they tell the Windows O/S that this is an operating program and you should do what it says... (There is a vast difference, within not only Microsoft but all computer O/S's, between simple readable or viewable data, and operational code.) In Outlook Express (version 5.0) there is an excellent option available. Whenever you dbl-click on an email extension a pop-up says, "All email extensions have the potential for danger" (or something similar to this) "-do you want to open this now or load it to disk?" (And when this question is asked, at this time, and only at this time, OE/5.0 then shows what the actual file extension is...) Always answering this question with "load it to disk" takes but an extra few seconds and allows any of the various virus killer programs (the good ones, anyway) to check out the file. If it is not a clean file, you should (depending upon which virus killer program you are using) get immediate (and pronounced ) bells, whistles, warnings, not to proceed with opening this extension, and sometimes even automatic deletions. If the file is judged clean, you get no further messages and can then open it in relative safety. (Nothing is ever perfect however; on very very rare occasions a new type virus comes along that the killer programs are not prepared for. (There was even a virus killer once, a Norton program I think it was, that was released with a virus in it!) But again, this kind of stuff is extremely rare. Also, most good virus killers have constant online update options to catch up with these occasional new things.) I sometimes think there are more computer problems caused by virus rumors than there are by viruses... (And definitely more problems caused by knocked over coffee containers!) Wishing you (and me) a virus free environment. (Which is a nice way of saying ,"down with these immature computer creeps!") Skip (An ex-systems programmer) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet
We have thought about this but so far we have not found it necessary..also makes me a better reader of negatives, I think? It may yet happen.. Jerry -Original Message- From: Norman Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet You can also very easily do you own proof sheet using a lamp and a couple of trays in the bathroom. Then view the sheets instead of the negs or both. You can get a better idea of your final print that way before you spend the money at the pro lab. Norm From: Lewis, Gerald > After developing, cutting, and storing > the negs I look at them on a light box using an 8X loupe. From this I > decide which negs to have printed at the pro lab. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone using the Pacific-Image Prime-Film 1800U scanner?
I have one. I used it to scan my last 3 or 4 PUG submissions. Bought it to use with my laptop while working out of town. My general impressions: 1. You basically get what you pay for, maybe a little less in this case. 2. I have a Minolta Dimage Scan Dual, and while I have not scanned the same image back to back, I think the scans on the Minolta, which is 2820 dpi I think, look better than with the PrimeFilm. I think they even look better when scanned at only 800 dpi (yes 800 not 1800). I'm subjectively referring to the sharpness, crispness, in-focus quality of the image after scanning. 3. The following has occurred repeatedly: After in use for about 20 minutes, the finished scan arrives in my Image Editor (Corel PhotoPaint 7 on my laptop), as a set of posterized colorblocks. You know how it seems a lot of musicians have copied the Beatles Let it Be album cover but in weird colors? That's what the scans look like. Turning the scanner off/on corrects the problem. 4. I attempted to scan a slide for the last PUG that I ultimately gave up on (I don't have my Minolta out of the box after moving yet). The image was of the side of a boat with a door and portholes, lit by the setting sun. The entire image was a coppery orange metallic color. When scanned, the door and only the door was interpreted as being a blue color. In terms of old Crayola crayons, it was Cornflower blue. I took the slide out and looked again. It was definitely orange on the slide. I tried 3 or 4 more times. Everytime, the door, and only the door was blue in the resulting digitized image. I gave up, deciding I would scan it some other time with the Minolta. 5. The scanning software itself is less than perfect. The preview window often contains artifacts or does not show the image just scanned. Sometimes this can be corrected by going spastic with the mouse and then the image shows up. 6. The physical positioning of the slide or negative in the scanner is not very positive. By that I mean you slide it in, and there's nothing that really tells you that you have it positioned correctly, You can probably move the film between 1/8 to 1/4 inch, lock it down and scan. Sometimes I have had it positioned to far in or even slightly crooked, and then had to reposition it and scan again. All this being said, it was better than no scanner at all. It is very light and compact. I don't think it compares in quality to film scanners twice it's price. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wanted Super A plate and advice
Hi Mine is missing the cover too. I had a ME Super once. It had the cover. Since the same winder can be used fot both cameras, the cover must be the same. You might get a cover for a ME Super instead. Best Regards Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
Interesting article. I like this line, even though I do not agree fully Mr. Cartier-Bresson added, "A flash is like rape." Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Hi - > > HC-B was photographed by DDD using an old Pentax. HC-B was not > happy. Read all about it here: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/08/arts/08ARTS.html?pagewanted=all Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS - fully automatic spotmatic rangefinder?
What in the world is the "wide converter" on the lens Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Check out the attached Yahoo auction description for another good laugh. > Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy ! Also makes me want to trust this new > person to photo equipment auctions. > > > http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/48934107 > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS - fully automatic spotmatic rangefinder?
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, W Keith Mosier wrote: > Check out the attached Yahoo auction description for another good laugh. > Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy ! Also makes me want to trust this new > person to photo equipment auctions. Well, I wasn't interested in it until I saw that it was a "definite professional camera." I guess that settles our periodic discussion over what makes a professional. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
Hi - HC-B was photographed by DDD using an old Pentax. HC-B was not happy. Read all about it here: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/08/arts/08ARTS.html?pagewanted=all You may have to register with the New York Times in order to read this article. It's easy and it's free. Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "When you photograph people in color, you photograph their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, you photograph their souls." -- Ted Grant - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
Mike, So the big deal is that Nikon is going to market as "new" a type of shutter that the LX used for twenty years? Doug Quoting Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sadly, and somewhat ironically, it may be that only a company that is doing > well with its "computers with motors" that can afford to produce a manual, > metal throwback camera recalling the classic era of the SLR (1959-1981, > from > the introduction of the Nikon F to the introduction of the Canon A-1). > Nikon > has a large base of established professional and semiprofesisonal users to > keep happy, many of whom have not been particularly sanguine about the > demise of the FE2, which was notable to them mainly as a backup body that > had TTL metering and a high snyc speed. The FM3A, the advent of which is > indeed interesting, is more or less the introduction of a new shutter--a > remarkable one which works manually without batteries but is electronically > timed with batteries, allowing aperture-priority AE *and* fail-safe manual > operation. If technically the shutter (a much more central mechanism of > most > cameras than most consumers think it is) is the point, conceptually it is > that the FM3A is essentially a combining of the FM2 and FE2. It could have > been as much improved with a better viewfinder; the one in the ongoing > FE-FM-FM3A lineage is relatively sucky. > > The true "classic" throwback manual-mechanical metal SLR recalling the best > of the old days as interpreted by modern technology has yet to be made. It > may never be. I agree with Weiland that it should be. It would be > gratifying > if Pentax would do it. But I wouldn't hold my breath. > > --Mike J. > Ashwood Lake Photography http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wanted Super A plate and advice
Hard to believe, but there never was a cover for the hole- I asked Pentax USA the question 15 years ago, and that was the answer. Dave Evans >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/08 4:08 AM >>> Hi, I am after the screw in plate that cover the motor drive whole on a Super A, i assume one of a Program Plus is the same. If any one has then let me know :) Also the foam inside the camera where the mirror sits when the film is exposed has seen better days, where can i get this foam from and what is the best way to clean it off and stick some new on? Thanks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Average cost of B+W film development and contact sheet
You can also very easily do you own proof sheet using a lamp and a couple of trays in the bathroom. Then view the sheets instead of the negs or both. You can get a better idea of your final print that way before you spend the money at the pro lab. Norm From: Lewis, Gerald > After developing, cutting, and storing > the negs I look at them on a light box using an 8X loupe. From this I > decide which negs to have printed at the pro lab. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: monitor configuration
At 15:12 4.2.2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >"Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: >> >> Adobe Gamma is not included in the LE version. That is one of the features >> left out making it a limited edition. > >Yikes. > >Well, there ends my ability to assist. Sorry... > >I know of a couple of colour calibration tools for Windows, but all are >in the real real expensive price range, which I'm assuming you don't >want to get into. :) > >-Aaron What about ICC profiles, in Corel Draw package? "old" Corel Draw 8.0 can be had for about 60$ here (legally!!!), and AFAIK it includes Corel Photopaint, as good as photoshop is, utilizing ICC profiles for Monitor, Scanner and printer calibration (and Photopaint works with them, it shows off-gamut colours if you want, etc!!!) Some of the graphics pros even like Photopain better for some of its features than Photoshop (actually, they use both :) Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
