Re: Buying a SILVER MZ-S and/or a BLACK MZ-3 (ZX-5n) in USA?
Hi ... you might want to take a look at this page: http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/mitsuba.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone. How? 1) Where do I buy a SILVER MZ-S while living (not leaving) in the USA? 2) Same with a BLACK MZ-3 or ZX-5n Feel free to apply offline to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I said: to shoot a few frames or make a series of exposures of a certain person or group of people, once the flash goes off the mood is ruined, or at least changed, from what I would be trying to capture, that being fleeting moments, subtle interactions, and the dynamics of people in specific situations. Mafud replied: Honestly, you ~truly~ expect to get all that from a crowd at a ~car~ show? And I amplified my remarks: Yes ... I'm very good at that type of photography. Mafud continued: Maybe if you were speaking of surreptitious shooting at an auction of rare gazillion dollar cars you'd find your anticipated crowd. But in that crowd, shooting with anything less than a Leica M and a SUMICRON?(sp) f/1.2, 50 mm lens or other, would show others you really didn't understand ~where~ you were. And I replied: Well, golly-gee-whiz. I certainly plan to use one or two of my Leicas, and the appropriate Summicrons. BTW, the Leica 50mm/f1.2 is the early version of the Noctilux, which has been superseded by the 50mm/f1.0 version. While Mafud commented further: You'd be better off finding the crowd you seek shooting in a museum, a place where introspective people are part of the ambiance. But a CAR SHOW? PLEASE!! To which I incredulously responded: Are you suggesting that people don't have interactions at a car show? That there are no dynamics and relationships between people at a car show? If so, you don't know what you're talking about. people are people, everywhere, and in every venue. And frankly, having been to several major auto auctions, I can tell you that there's more interesting stuff happening at the car show, not that there's nothing interesting happening at an auction. Then Mafud rambled further, having missed an earlier point: But ... but, you actually WANT to get all those yucky colors? PLEASE! Or are you saying you didn't know that shooting ~color~ film under mixed lighting would give mixed results? And I reiterated: What did I just say? It's a learning experience for me. I rarely shoot color, so I don't know what kind of results I'll get. Mafud quoting me and commenting: No flash is needed for B don't have to worry about color balance and custom printers, and I can concentrate on the subjects at hand. But ...but you gave ~no~ indication of all that in your question. Your question, worded as it was, led me and others to believe you were going to shoot the ~show~, the stars of which are...cars, with beautiful, glossy paint jobs, the shooting of which without flash would give you yucky (color print/slide) results. And I answered: Well, that's what you chose to read into my question. Here's exactly what I wrote: The San Francisco Auto Show is coming up, and it may be nice to grab a few color snaps of the folks drooling over the new offerings. I rarely shoot color neg, so a few suggestions would be helpful. It seems like this is a job for one of those Fuji films with the extra layer, to take care of the fluorescent lighting, right? See, not a word was said about photographing the cars, just the folks drooling over the new offerings. Then Mafud asked a question which was answered earlier: But in color, under the variety of lighting found in each venue? You'd need filter(s) and luck to get what you asked. And I reiterated: Indeed - and filters were suggested and I noted that I'd look into getting some. I also asked about specific colored filters in subsequent messages. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerrekshun
Well it was 20+ years ago. Shortly after that huge blimp size light boxs with several 4800 watt second strobe heads got popular. Now I think they are going back to hot lights using HMI type equipment, but I no longer have any access to those kinds of studios. Styles change. In portrature it was keg lights, then strobes, then strobes with unbrellas, then strobes with light boxes, then strobes with large reflectors. Now? I think the leading edge photographers are going back to hot lights, but I am definately out of the loop anymore. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:43 AM Subject: Kerrekshun I errantly wrote: Not so. All car photographers in studios use strobes. Amend that, in light of Tom's explanation. MOST car photographers in studios (that I've ever seen, anyway) use strobes. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Not Scrunk
So? You are going to quible over one lousy letter are you, Mite? grin Strunk White. Elements of Style for those who do not know what we are talking about. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:40 AM Subject: Not Scrunk graywolf wrote: All those commas ought to make it easier for well educated people to understand though White Scrunk will be somewhat upset at the lack of style. William Strunk, Jr. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Wanted in Australia - broken lens
Hi, I'm after a k-mount lens to use in a project. The optics, including diaphragm etc will be thrown away so basically any lens with a k-mount will do. I would prefer the focussing helicoid to be working though. Probable candidates would be something in the 28 - 50mm range. I've tried the local Crime Converters and they had nothing useful and still wanted $30+ for anything, no matter how ratty. So if you've got a lens with a big chip on the element or maybe even fungus that you can't use please email me. thanks, Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film, was Re: Auto Show Snaps
Who's paper was the minilab using. There is a difference between Kodak and Fuji paper emulsions. Kodak looks better on Kodak paper and Fuji looks better on Fuji paper. Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I must admit that during the 5 months I've been employed at a minilab, the best overall photographs (most of them don't deserve the name photograph) I've seen have been those shot on Kodak Gold 200. Hey Bill. POP PHOTOGRAPHY ran a test in 1999 of color films where the whole GOLD family took top honors over other consumer products. Mafud - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Low budget WA?
At 01:30 PM 11/15/01 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone have any experience with the 19mm Vivitar? I realize this by far no pro lens but it affords me a wider angle than my current 28mm limit. It's alright but nothing to write home about. If you can afford to do better, I would. I read the warnings about its problems with flare before I bought it and have made sure to keep the sun out of the picture when using it. Gary J. Sibio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pacific image film scanner-opinions
good morning pug-sters: looking at perhaps purchasing my 1st film scanner. i remember reading a few weeks/months back about the pacific image 1800u. a local shop now has them in stock. could those w/real-world experience share some of their experiences? since i usually don't shoot slides, for those who do shoot print film, do u no longer have prints made at a lab but now scan from your negatives? w/o starting a holy war, how does this unit handle b/w film negatives? my needs are modest. i would be printing on an epson photo printer for my own viewing, usually 5x7, occasionally larger, and for web posting of images. do u use the software that comes w/this scanner? i use macs. is that a problem w/this machine? software-wise? (for those mac-heads, what machine are u using w/this scanner how much ram?) again, and as always, thanks for any info u care to share. be well robo - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerrekshun
Tom Rittenhouse writes: Well it was 20+ years ago. Shortly after that huge blimp size light boxs with several 4800 watt second strobe heads got popular. Now I think they are going back to hot lights using HMI type equipment, but I no longer have any access to those kinds of studios. I'll let you use my studio if you like. It has the biggest baddest hot light source available. I don't charge much for using it but I do only have one light, and its not easily controllable so you'll have to bring your own reflectors. The studio has plenty of diffusers but they tend to drip water everywhere, and some have built-in flashes that can go off without warning. (I do landscapes...and I'm up too late...) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
pictures for your diningdancing pleasure
Hi all. I put my Markham Fair band pictures on Photo.net http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=125910 Got tired of waiting for tripod to work. They are a bit soft,iquess dur to the lighting and movment with the slow shutter speed. Used delta 3200 at 3200 1/60 or 1/30 with 35-70 wide open. Comments welcome Dave(high end iso)Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The Tom Rittenhouse Challenge
Hi Tom I would like to send you a print of one of my horse jumping shots taken with the D1 and printed from a Canon S800.Is it to late??I'd be interested in your feed back. Dave ps i'm shooting a show all weekend so i will not see your reply until Sunday night at the earliest Thanks Begin Original Message From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:00:47 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Tom Rittenhouse Challenge Yes, and Bills ability to make a good print has improved a lot. ove the last one he showed me a few months back. I rate his Epson 1270 a D. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:39 PM Subject: The Tom Rittenhouse Challenge Well, the old curmudgeon grudgingly admitted that my prints from the Epson 1270 were better than expected. I would hazard a guess that coming from him that's quite a nice compliment :-) Seriously though, it was a very enjoyable afternoon. The Pentax rep was in town, but we were unable to run him down before I had to go to work. Maybe next time. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: pacific image film scanner-opinions
Let the Holy War begin... (just kidding) I have this scanner. I'm using a PC but it works with Mac's and comes with the software for both. It scans BW negatives, color negatives, and mounted or unmounted slides. As an inexpensive solution it does well. I am not very happy with the software that comes with it, but it does the job. Even though I worked in a color lab and understand color print making very well, and have a good command of color light theory, I have found it very difficult to make color-balanced scans using this device. By comparison, my Microtek E-3 flatbed scanner (also a budget device) and bundled software produce very well balanced scans with little trouble. Your ability to use the software will determine your satisfaction with the scanner. If I could get the software to work the way I want to, I'd be quite happy with the device. It seems to work very easily with slides and black white negatives. Color negatives is where I have trouble with it. But color management issues aside, it produces very sharp images that are as large as you care to make them. I do not make prints from these images but I am sure with the correct printer and paper they would be very satisfactory. ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 4:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pacific image film scanner-opinions good morning pug-sters: looking at perhaps purchasing my 1st film scanner. i remember reading a few weeks/months back about the pacific image 1800u. a local shop now has them in stock. could those w/real-world experience share some of their experiences? since i usually don't shoot slides, for those who do shoot print film, do u no longer have prints made at a lab but now scan from your negatives? w/o starting a holy war, how does this unit handle b/w film negatives? my needs are modest. i would be printing on an epson photo printer for my own viewing, usually 5x7, occasionally larger, and for web posting of images. do u use the software that comes w/this scanner? i use macs. is that a problem w/this machine? software-wise? (for those mac-heads, what machine are u using w/this scanner how much ram?) again, and as always, thanks for any info u care to share. be well robo - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: I just got engaged
Hmmm... Interesting thought Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: I just got engaged congratulations. will all the wedding pictures be of fingers? steve Yes, this is way off topic, but I just had to share...Nate asked me to marry him tonight and I accepted. :) Have a good weekend everyone! - --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: I just got engaged
Congratulations! What's going on with all these PDML women getting hooked up? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: I just got engaged Yes, this is way off topic, but I just had to share...Nate asked me to marry him tonight and I accepted. :) Have a good weekend everyone! --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: where to buy film
Kits (Ritz) Cameras in Federal Way WA for amateur film (usually Fuji), RK Photo in Auburn WA for BW, high speed and Agfa color film (my preferred brand at the moment.) Jim - Original Message - From: Cory or Brenda Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:58 AM Subject: where to buy film Just a poll: Where do you buy your film? Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SC69
In a message dated 16/11/01 19:35:07 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Pentax Focusing Screen SC-69 on eBay ... ... with a very interesting BIN price ;-)) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1298211887 Ouch! Maybe I should try listing some DUTCH? About 20 should do the trick... Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: November PUG assignement
Hi Cory, Thanks for taking the comment on my pic. With regards to taking the pic earlier, that might have worked but I don`t think the lights would have shown up as well, it wasn`t even dark yet when I took this one. You are correct about detail in the boats, Royal Gold 1000 did not push that well to 3200. Is there a good 3200 color film out there? Sanary Sur Mer at Dusk by Allan Meller is also one of my favorite photos, as Allan did not mention the ASA speed and aperture settings (which I would like to know), it was probably very dark when he took it, since it was a 2 minute exposure. I still feel bad that I didn`t take time to email Allen and congratulate him on his work. Of the several pics I took that evening, this one showed the best because of the framing of the lights on the island, and the reflection of the lights on the water between the boats. Maybe it would have looked better with the boats in foreground centered, but IIRC the lights on the island to the left did not look as appealing in the dark Spotmatic viewfinder. Thanks again Cory, Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Cory or Brenda Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: November PUG assignement Avalon Harbor By Steve Larson I will confess that I wasn't drawn to this picture as one of my favorites this month. Mean right off the bat, huh? That's not to say it isn't good, by any means. I wonder if you could have gotten a better image a half hour earlier. A little more light might have made this a better look. It seems like the detail of the boats is lacking a bit. I started to think about it and remembered an image that kicked my butt a couple months ago that is kinda like this one. Take a look at Sanary Sur Mer at Dusk by Allan Meller from the August gallery. Again, the boat detail suffers a bit but the light is better and the buildings are better lit. I know, you were on a boat and you couldn't do the two min. exposure but well, I really liked this one. I would also have liked the boat (near-left) to have a little more space at the bow. It feels like it's being cut-off. Thanks for submitting to the gallery and submitting yourself to comments from hacks like me :) Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum
Okeene, Oklahoma, has a hunt cook every Spring. Not the kind of activity I'd personally enjoy, but ok for some, I guess. Especially perhaps for way-northerners. :) Collin ... I had a rattler chili once that was to die for. William Robb * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum
At 06:46 17-11-2001 -0500, you wrote: From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum - - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston Subject: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum It feels slippery and about gives me a heart attack when I see the snake in the bag. P.S. I actually ate rattlesnake once. At camp in Montana when I was 13. Killed it with a double-bladed axe in the John Marshall Wilderness, and skinned it and sliced it to pieces and fried the cutlets in a pan. Even AFTER it was cooked, the cutlets were still twitching. Good job!!! If it has stopped twitching, it's overcooked. Yum. My favourite rattlesnake recipe: Take the meat from a FRESH (not frozen) rattler and lay it out on a piece of aluminium foil. Add salt and cayenne pepper to taste and work into the meat (it twitches pretty good while your doing this, let me tell you). Lightly butter the meat and sprinkle on fresh savoury, dill and a bit of oregano. Dice an onion and toss some of that on too. Wrap the meat in the foil, at least 2 layers and cook above a hot coal bed, generally for about 20 to 30 minutes, turning every five minutes or so. I had a rattler chili once that was to die for. William Robb This has got to be the grossest thread yet! Twitching meat? Eeuurgh, put me right off my breakfast Wendy (back to foraging for nuts berries) --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film, was Re: Auto Show Snaps
In a message dated 11/17/01 4:10:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who's paper was the minilab using. There is a difference between Kodak and Fuji paper emulsions. Kodak looks better on Kodak paper and Fuji looks better on Fuji paper. Bob! BOB! I took a six-months whipping from the list for saying that very same thing. There are those on this (and other) lists who say there is no difference, but we ~know~ better, don't we Bob? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Not a NYC Mailing List was: where to buy film
In a message dated 11/17/01 10:15:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hehe...maybe Bob Harris, Mafud and I could form a QueensML... ;) Any day! Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography in Mali, once again
In a message dated 11/17/01 12:59:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ISO 400 is surely way too fast for outdoor shots most of the time - you'll be stuck with very small apertures, or you'll have to use ND filters, which will darken your viewfinder considerably. But ISO 400 film of the same class and genre is less contrasty. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[Fwd: Kodak Bullish on Mail Sanitizing]
From rec.photo.film+labs Joe Original Message Subject: Kodak Bullish on Mail Sanitizing Date: 17 Nov 2001 17:54:41 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DBaker9128) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.photo.film+labs Things are looking up for those of us using slide processing mailers, etal: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/aboutKodak/sanitize.shtml Doug from Tumwater - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerrekshun
In a message dated 11/17/01 12:59:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HMI is constant and constant in its output, OOPs! That should have been: ...consistent and constant. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
Well Len, there's not much I can say in response to your remarks. There's no point in discussing who I am, or my style of working, with someone who is apparently as closed minded and judgemental as you are. To judge someone by their physical appearance, without ever even having met them, is truly indicative of a very narrow minded person. Perhaps you need to get the prescription for your eye glasses changed - you seem to be suffering from short sightedness and tunnel vision. Maybe some lenses with a wider field of view and greater depth of field g. Take care ... lbparis wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Auro Show Snaps Len, you'd be very surprised at how unobtrusive I can be. I've stood within a foot or two of people and gotten off half a dozen frames without them being aware. If you look through Juan's photos you'll see one or two that exemplify just that. That's just your interpretation of the facts. In actuality, they are just hoping that, if they pretend you're not there, perhaps they'll be able to escape with their lives. Further, when people see me, or when I want to be seen, I am, for some reason, very non-threatening. People want me to photograph them. If I was using flash, or big, loud cameras, many people might not tolerate what I do. And I'm sure that, if you were carrying a gun instead of a camera, they would want you to hold them up, too. I took a workshop with Baron Wolman this past spring. During a break he suggested that it would be OK if I photographed him while he was speaking to the class. I'd been sitting but five or six feet from him all morning and shot almost an entire roll of film with him as the subject, and he didn't even know it. My first comment applies here, too. My cloaking device is my affability, respect for the people I photograph, and an openness which invites my subjects to participate in the experience should they see me working. I can also be very quiet, and regardless of my size, can disappear into the scenery and become almost invisible. For whatever reason, be it my choice of cameras, my personality, or my ability to sense what's appropriate at a given moment, the people who I photograph enjoy the experience, even if they don't want to be photographed. I find that hard to believe. It's just not the picture of the Shel Bellicose I've seen in action here in the PDML. But I'll grant the possibility that you are unaware of how intimidating you are. I invite you to come shooting with me some time. I can assure you it will be an eye-opening experience for you. HAR! Probably more like an eye-closing experience, isn't that what you mean? No thanks, I have to wear glasses in order to see. The shards would be way too sharp and painful. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
Gee Mafud ... you've discovered the truth. May I suggest that you and Len Paris get together - I'm sure you'll have much to discuss. Take care my friend. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/17/01 3:32:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed - and filters were suggested and I noted that I'd look into getting some. I also asked about specific colored filters in subsequent messages. Hey Shel, even though you tried to insult me, as here: Then Mafud (rambled) further, having missed an earlier point:; I forgive you. Your original question was one of a photographic neophyte, someone who knew little or nothing about color photography. But you ~DO~ know ~something~ about color in that you expressed concern about the fluorescent lighting and knowing they influence color balance. I've begun to think 1. You know a lot more about color than you care to admit 2. You wanted the list to know you're shooting a car show. Bully for you! Be well. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI: you're the second person to attempted to be nasty or condescending since I came back to the list. Note, I said Attempted. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:12:44 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: I certainly wouldn't have spent a thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am, by the way; I'm just being cautious.) I feel exactly the same, I was planning on buying the 3-lens limited set (31, 43 and 77) for my MZ-3 / PZ1 / LX, and waiting for the MZ-D to use them on later. I will certainly wait for a formal announcement of a new Pentax Digital SLR now! I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4. If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D, I will get one for sure ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1574
I kept a dozen or so copies around the office. Gave them out to associates/employees who sent me documents I found to be exceedingly difficult/distracting to navigateAnd, for those who continued to .. we had the returned unread stamp .. Of course, I never read it myself --- as you can see. Otis Mike Johnston wrote: Tom R. wrote: So? You are going to quible over one lousy letter are you, Mite? grin Not me, Straywolf. g Strunk White. Elements of Style for those who do not know what we are talking about. A wonderful book. E.B. White is a master stylist of English, and Strunk was his teacher at Cornell in 1919; White later edited and amplified Strunk's book for commercial publication, since which time it has been a classic. White on Strunk's book: In its original form, it was a forty-three page summation of the case for cleanliness, accuracy, and brevity in the use of English. Today...its vigor is unimpaired, and for sheer pith I think it probably sets a record that is not likely to be broken. ... Seven rules of usage, eleven principles of composition, a few matters of form, and a list of words and expressions commonly misused--that was the sum and substance of Professor Strunk's work. I have a short shelf of books, some of them practical nonfiction, that comprise the best, most Universally worthy, most rewarding books I know of, culled from a lifetime as a reader. _The Elements of Style_ is on that shelf, and I probably have three more copies scattered around on other shelves, and I've probably given away more than a dozen copies in my life. To anyone who doesn't already know it, very highly recommended. --Mike If you want to witness the principles in action, get any version of _Essays of E.B. White_, which, having now reminded myself of it, I won't be able to resist rereading for the fourth or fifth time. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum
It's not bad, really. My dad (the Mighty Hunter) used to bring home all sorts of odd stuff for us to try. Southern-fried rattler is yummy! And for the record, frog legs jump around in the pan while they cook -- it's dinner AND a show. - Original Message - From: Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum Wendy Beard wrote: This has got to be the grossest thread yet! Twitching meat? Eeuurgh, put me right off my breakfast Don't worry about the twitching. Even when it is done twitching and is fully cooked, etc., it still tastes like, well... I won't say it since I have not yet had my breakfast. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Photographing documents - Slide film, flash? and lens type
Turning into a busy weekend. I finished last night's ballet performance and now have a new project I need help on. I have never used slide film, and have photographed only people and places. My daughter is submitting an application to a College of Design and they require slides of her design drawings. First question - the College FAQs suggest shooting outdoors in daylight, which is possible. Should I do this or use flash? Second question - what slide film for daylight, or what slide film for flash? Third question - what focal length lens? Short and up-close like 28-35mm, or perhaps a portrait-lens length of 100-135mm? Maris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pacific image film scanner-opinions
Rob, I have the Pacific Image 1800u scanner, and have a kind of love/hate relationship with it. I use it for slides only, because mine doesn't seem to work well with negatives. If the colors in a transparency are too subtle, the scanner doesn't seem to recognize them. It does an adequate job if the colors and contrast are strong. From what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), more expensive scanners can recognize more colors. Perhaps that's the limitation of the Pacific Image 1800u scanner. I have a image in the November PUG, and I had it rescanned with a Minolta scanner by a shop. It looks much better than the scan of the same slide with the Pacific Image on my website. The subtle amber light becomes more apparent on the Minolta scan. (Pacific Image scan can be found on my website under Port Townsend trip report) As a few weeks ago, I asked this list if I needed to invest more for a slide scanner to get crisper results. The software is not great, but it works. You can use other purchased software, like Photoshop with the scanner. Currently I'm using the software that came with my Canon flatbed scanner. Harald http://www.geocities.com/harald_nancy/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:35 AM Subject: Re: pacific image film scanner-opinions good morning pug-sters: looking at perhaps purchasing my 1st film scanner. i remember reading a few weeks/months back about the pacific image 1800u. a local shop now has them in stock. could those w/real-world experience share some of their experiences? since i usually don't shoot slides, for those who do shoot print film, do u no longer have prints made at a lab but now scan from your negatives? w/o starting a holy war, how does this unit handle b/w film negatives? my needs are modest. i would be printing on an epson photo printer for my own viewing, usually 5x7, occasionally larger, and for web posting of images. do u use the software that comes w/this scanner? i use macs. is that a problem w/this machine? software-wise? (for those mac-heads, what machine are u using w/this scanner how much ram?) again, and as always, thanks for any info u care to share. be well robo - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography in Mali, once again
Bob Walkden wrote: In Africa I've usually shot on slide film (K64), at least in recent years. The contrast is too great most of the time so my solution has been never to shoot until my shadow is longer than my height, or the weather is slightly overcast. In the highlands of Ethiopia it is viciously contrasty and never overcast, so I only shoot when shadows are very long indeed. I get up at about 5am and shoot from before sunrise until about 8-9am, at which time I find some shade or do something non-photographic until about 4pm, when I can start again, then early to bed. This happens to fit in with the way people live there anyway. If I absolutely have to shoot when the sun is high then I try to shoot against the light (not always possible, it gets so high) because then at least you get people's faces without the deep shadows. In this situation I give up on the background. When I go back again I may consider shooting on Supra 100 because of this problem with contrast. I might also/instead shoot in black white. Unfortunately it seems to be an irresolvable problem. People have advised me to use fill flash, but I hate it. ISO 400 is surely way too fast for outdoor shots most of the time - you'll be stuck with very small apertures, or you'll have to use ND filters, which will darken your viewfinder considerably. - --- Bob Thanks, Bob. All very good advice. I'm out and about during the day doing fieldwork (this is work, not a holiday, but very interesting work), so when there is a good shot I have to take it regardless of the light. Supra 100 is a possibility. With ISO 400, high shutter speeds have eliminated the small aperture problem. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum
Please don't pass the entertainment. Otis Treena Harp wrote: It's not bad, really. My dad (the Mighty Hunter) used to bring home all sorts of odd stuff for us to try. Southern-fried rattler is yummy! And for the record, frog legs jump around in the pan while they cook -- it's dinner AND a show. - Original Message - From: Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum Wendy Beard wrote: This has got to be the grossest thread yet! Twitching meat? Eeuurgh, put me right off my breakfast Don't worry about the twitching. Even when it is done twitching and is fully cooked, etc., it still tastes like, well... I won't say it since I have not yet had my breakfast. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Film Developing
I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
A scroll of mail from lbparis [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:49:52 -0600 Read it? y That's just your interpretation of the facts. In actuality, they are just hoping that, if they pretend you're not there, perhaps they'll be able to escape with their lives. I think this is a very harsh response. I'm guessing you find it very difficult to get natural, candid shots of people doing their normal everyday stuff. I'm similar: I think people will object to me sticking a camera in their faces and so they do. Friends who believe that people like being photographed get much better results. I think it's a sort of personality projection. If you radiate a field of 'harmless photographer, just an ordinary bloke' you get on better with people than if you radiate 'big-nose camera man'. I find that hard to believe. It's just not the picture of the Shel Bellicose I've seen in action here in the PDML. But I'll grant the possibility that you are unaware of how intimidating you are. The most amazing people are capable of 'stealth photography'. I've got a friend who's a real dour Scot. He uses an F5. He can wander through a market in Beijing and get real candid shots, even with an enormous camera rig and the fact that his face doesn't fit. It's very subtle, the difference in approach/personality, but it's enough to let my friend get pictures of an old woman stirring roasting chestnuts in a Hong Kong market, and I just get pictures of her attacking me with a stick! If you look at yer typical Photo Journalist (PJ) shot (http://www.dirckhalstead.com the seven by seven article has some superb examples), a PJ uses a 24mm lens and gets really close to the subject, certainly close enough to get thumped. How come all these PJs get great pictures? I think they're projecting a vibe which says Your job is unbelieavably important. It's so important that the presence of a guy like me is of no importance and you should pay me no attention. And they fade into the background. Probably more like an eye-closing experience, isn't that what you mean? No thanks, I have to wear glasses in order to see. The shards would be way too sharp and painful. Once I was out with my friend mentioned above. We were taking pictures in one of Hong Kong's red light zones. Two large men covered in tattoos came up and asked us to stop taking pictures. (Covered in tattoos in HK means Triads, organised crime.) My friend puts on a dopey face and goes we wanted to take some pictures of the night market and someone told us it was here, but we can't find it. Now bear in mind that we both have 6 foot tall tripods, huge bags (Domke J2) full of cameras, at least one camera slung around the neck, light meters, etc. A blind man would decide that we were a pair of pro photogs on a job. So this thug, with a knife in his belt, who would normally kill anyone who talks back, gives us directions back to the night market (a big tourist attraction) and, with a big smile, says I hope you like Hong Kong! It's a skill. Blending in, getting the it's that bloke with the camera again! rather than get that F@#$ing thing out of my F%$^ing face! response. It's a tremendous talent and, from seeing pics on Shel in action, I think he has it. Indeed, from seeing his pictures where his subjects are aware of him and draw him in, he definitely has it. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film Developing
In a message dated 11/17/2001 2:23:46 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? Try this. A HREF=http://www.digitaltruth.com/;Digitaltruth: Photo Source/A Ed M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film Developing
Hi Bill ... Sorry I missed your earlier post. Go here http://www.digitaltruth.com/ for what you're seeking. Also, you might want to pick up a copy of The Film Developing Cookbook by Anchell Troop. William D. Sawyer wrote: I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. [...] Is there any help here? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Photography in Mali, once again
Hi, yes, that's true, but of course it has problems of its own. As Joe has pointed out fast shutter speeds have taken care of the small aperture problem to some extent. But even with a camera with a top shutter speed of 1/4000 the widest you can go in typical outdoor conditions is f/5.6, which certainly restricts the options. At least with ISO 100 you can get to f/2.8. If you're unlucky enough to have a Leica M, a Pentax MX, or almost any of the older generation cameras, then you're stuck at f/11. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, November 17, 2001, 6:17:44 PM, you wrote: ISO 400 is surely way too fast for outdoor shots most of the time - you'll be stuck with very small apertures, or you'll have to use ND filters, which will darken your viewfinder considerably. But ISO 400 film of the same class and genre is less contrasty. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
A scroll of mail from Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:25:42 -0800 Read it? y Len, you'd be very surprised at how unobtrusive I can be. I've stood within a foot or two of people and gotten off half a dozen frames without them being aware. If you look through Juan's photos you'll see one or two that exemplify just that. I'm reminded here of the film Leon with Jean Reno. He describes the training of an assassin. A begriming 'cleaner' uses a high power rifle and a telescopic sight. An experienced cleaner may use a hand gun and shoot from the hip, but a master gets right in there with a knife. When you're a street photographer, it's easy to start with a 200mm lens and stay away. As you get better, it'll get down to an 85 or even a 50. But a master is someone who can use a 20mm lens, inches from someone's face and not be noticed. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum
Hi, And for the record, frog legs jump around in the pan while they cook -- it's dinner AND a show. they must be doing the pan-pan... --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: November PUG assignement
konica used to have a 3200 speed film but they discontinued it - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum
Actually your recipe and cooking method sounded great for just about any kind of meat. When we go camping we frequently cook on the trucks engine while we are traveling. When we pull into camp we'll have something like a nice roast with potatoes, onion, carrots. Um Um Good. There's an entire cookbook devoted to the subject entitled Manifold Destiny. Gotta go wrap the salmon and corn on the cob in foil so I throw it in the dishwasher for company tonight. Tom - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Cakalic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum Way to go Tom! 'twas fun. L8R Bill - Original Message - From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Rattlesnake Shake, Rattlesnake Yum Wendy Beard wrote: This has got to be the grossest thread yet! Twitching meat? I WIN! I WIN! Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pacific image film scanner-opinions
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:35:08 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good morning pug-sters: looking at perhaps purchasing my 1st film scanner. i remember reading a few weeks/months back about the pacific image 1800u. a local shop now has them in stock. could those w/real-world experience share some of their experiences? since i usually don't shoot slides, for those who do shoot print film, do u no longer have prints made at a lab but now scan from your negatives? I use the 1800u quite a lot and have found a system that works for me. I don't use the colour balancing in the scanner software at all. I set the scanner up in 36 bit mode and adjust the curves to cover the high and low points of the scan and then scan it into photoshop and do colour correction in there. My standard colour correction is using the levels control in photoshop - hit the auto button then adjust mid blue to about 70, mid green to about 84. This gives me a good starting point for fine tuning. They are now selling the Primefile with an option of new software called Silverfast. You can get a demo version of the software from here http://www.silverfast.com/silverfast/demos/pc-en.html It is a lot better than the standard software for colour control, but costs a bit too much for me. Buying it bundled might make it worth while. I find it easier to scan negs than slides even though I scan more slides than negs. I have just coupled my 1800u with an Epson 810printer and have printed out some very nice A4 size prints. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography in Mali, once again
Joseph, I have shot the Optima and found it to be a bit contrasty. To try to get the people and landscape, I would try Fuji Reala 100 and/or Kodak Portra 160NC. Both are much lower contrast. Have you ever considered a minor pop of flash? You might be able to hold the background and then let the flash fill-in (not full power) to brighten the people. Bruce Dayton Saturday, November 17, 2001, 8:28:24 AM, you wrote: JT It looks like I'll have a chance to return for fieldwork in northern JT Mali in January. The landscape in the area has quite low contrast (all JT shades of brown), but the sun is always quite bright. In the past, when JT I have shot the dark-skinned people in this landscape, either their JT faces are too dark to see details, or the background is blown out in JT machine prints. (Hand-made prints are too expensive in quantity.) In the JT past I've shot only color negative films. This time I'm thinking of JT taking: JT - Provia 100F for landscape photos. JT - Something low contrast like NPH 400 for shots of people. (I like JT negative film for people, because it is always appreciated when one JT returns with prints to give away, and I don't want to give digital JT prints for fear of fading in a few years). JT In past trips to this area I have shot Agfa Optima 100, Fuji Superia JT 100, Agfa Vista 100, and Ektapress PJ 400 (still have several rolls), JT all with mixed results on machine prints. JT What does everyone think of my selection? Other recommendations (and JT reasons)? JT Thanks, JT Joe JT - JT This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, JT go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to JT visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographing documents - Slide film, flash? and lens type
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:52:50 -0600, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: Turning into a busy weekend. I finished last night's ballet performance and now have a new project I need help on. This always happens to me. I have never used slide film, and have photographed only people and places. My daughter is submitting an application to a College of Design and they require slides of her design drawings. First question - the College FAQs suggest shooting outdoors in daylight, which is possible. Should I do this or use flash? I recently copied a lot of old family photographs and got good results doing it this way. I bought a cheap clip together frame and used that to hold the photos flat (Many of them had been sitting in boxes or drawers and were curled or bent). I set the camera up on a tripod and used 2 flashes from the side at about 45 degrees so as to not get any reflections off the glass. If you use only one flash you get uneven lighting or reflection off the document. This is probably why they recommend to use daylight - which would also work but if you are using glass to hold it flat you get a lot more reflections. Second question - what slide film for daylight, or what slide film for flash? This depends on the contrast range of what you are copying. I would probably use Kodachrome 64 for most things, and do some bracketing to make sure you get the drawing in it's best light. I've heard that Fuji Astia is good for subjects that have a wide contrast range, but I have not used it. Third question - what focal length lens? Short and up-close like 28-35mm, or perhaps a portrait-lens length of 100-135mm? A macro lens is probably best as it should give a flat field of focus and less distortion, but it depends on how big the drawings are. Hope this helps. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Photography in Mali, once again
Bob, I found your post interesting. I have shot quite a bit of Supra 100 and find it to be somewhat contrasty. A good friend of mine just came back from Africa having shot mostly Supra 100. I can say that the film didn't hold up all that well to the contrast. I would certainly give Konica Impressa 50, Fuji Reala 100 and possibly one of the portrait films a try. In my test and usage, these films handle high contrast much better. They don't work as well when the conrast drops too much. I was also a bit surprised by your comment about hating fill flash. I am wondering why? When done properly, the only telltale sign is a catchlight in the eyes (usually a good thing). I have done many shots with fill flash and without (back to back) and when the shadows are strong, fill flash really comes to the rescue. Care to elaborate on your feelings? Bruce Saturday, November 17, 2001, 9:59:15 AM, you wrote: BW Hi, Snip BW When I go back again I may consider shooting on Supra 100 because of BW this problem with contrast. I might also/instead shoot in black BW white. Unfortunately it seems to be an irresolvable problem. People BW have advised me to use fill flash, but I hate it. ISO 400 is surely BW way too fast for outdoor shots most of the time - you'll be stuck with BW very small apertures, or you'll have to use ND filters, which will BW darken your viewfinder considerably. BW --- BW Bob BW mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BW Saturday, November 17, 2001, 4:28:24 PM, you wrote: It looks like I'll have a chance to return for fieldwork in northern Mali in January. The landscape in the area has quite low contrast (all shades of brown), but the sun is always quite bright. In the past, when I have shot the dark-skinned people in this landscape, either their faces are too dark to see details, or the background is blown out in machine prints. (Hand-made prints are too expensive in quantity.) In the past I've shot only color negative films. This time I'm thinking of taking: - Provia 100F for landscape photos. - Something low contrast like NPH 400 for shots of people. (I like negative film for people, because it is always appreciated when one returns with prints to give away, and I don't want to give digital prints for fear of fading in a few years). In past trips to this area I have shot Agfa Optima 100, Fuji Superia 100, Agfa Vista 100, and Ektapress PJ 400 (still have several rolls), all with mixed results on machine prints. What does everyone think of my selection? Other recommendations (and reasons)? Thanks, Joe BW - BW This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, BW go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to BW visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Len's Opinion Site - Beta version of update available
Thanks David. What is posted now is 3.0b2 (3.0b1 was up when I sent my first message.) Rob Studdard pointed out that the .shtml code is not recognized by Netscape, so I went back and removed (most?) of the offending code. At this point you should be able to access version 3.0b2 via: home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/index.html or home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/ Once we get these glitches straightened out, I'll go ahead and move version 3.0 over to the concentric.net site. But then I am going to try to revamp the design to revise or get rid of the frames architecture. At this point the Detailed Comments is at about 360k. Even with a fast cable modem, the initial load is slow; even with a fast computer the retrieval from the cache is slow. So I am going to somehow chunk the content into smaller pieces. Bear with me. I have been using and occasionally programming computers since I first used an IBM 401(?) 1410 (?) Accounting Machine for statistical programs in 1963. And I will keep on using them until I get it right. But I am not there yet. Stan From: David S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Len's Opinion Site - Beta version of update available Stan Halpin wrote: 1. Background. In the fall of '98 I published a collection of information I . . . The site is, of course, www.concentric.net/~smhalpin . . . If you would like to view, and give me comments on, the new material, please go to home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/index.shtml . . . Again, the NEW material is at home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/index.shtml and comments should come to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got a page not found error using the exact URL listed above. It works using http://home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/ Didn't go through the entire site but same great stuff as old site. David S. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film Developing
Hi Bill, Try: http://www.digitaltruth.com/ Gianfranco - Original Message - From: William D. Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Film Developing I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
Len, arguing about Shel's shooting style, suggests he must be threatening and is way too tall to be stealthy... Len, Shel visited Chicago this summer and I got a chance to shoot some with him. I learned alot about shooting people by just watching his body language and how he approached people. It was inspiring for me, as I have worked most on objects and not people. Shel has a unique ability to engage people who are near him with a warm smile and a ready greeting. It's kind of a disarming charm...and then he asks them if he can photograph them! We encountered two Chicago Police officers that morning. The first was a veteran traffic officer, female, probably 5' 6 tall, Black and grumpy. Shel disarmed her (not literally) and got some pictures of her. I'm sure she didn't know why Shel wanted the shots. The other officer was also a woman, mounted on horseback. Shel stopped to take pictures of her on horseback and stopped to talk. When she noticed both of us, she volunteered to pose with Shel and the horse for me! I tell you, Shel has magic powers! We also stopped for a couple of beers and Shel got off some shots with the M3 of an odd couple around the elbow of the bar before I recognized he was doing anything. He can be stealthy. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
TTL multiflash with METZ
Hi, I use the German SCA 300 system, with Metz flashes. I have been thinking about the multiflash adapter SCA 605A (or which # it is), which allows connection of two or more ttl units. I would like to have one on camera and the other bounced, for contrast control flash, or maybe one on bracket one on camera, with about 1:3 ratio. Is it possible to do it with TTL metering via the multiflash adapter? Metz sells ND filters and they say use of the filters on one of the flashes works that way - for ratio of ttl flashes. Anybody tried it? Thanks Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Film Developing
Wow, great site, Shel!! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, and I saw a copy of the cookbook yesterday, I may buy it. Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: November 17, 2001 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film Developing Hi Bill ... Sorry I missed your earlier post. Go here http://www.digitaltruth.com/ for what you're seeking. Also, you might want to pick up a copy of The Film Developing Cookbook by Anchell Troop. William D. Sawyer wrote: I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. [...] Is there any help here? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Film Developing
Thanks, Ed. Shel recommended it, too, and it is exactly what I was looking for. Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/17/2001 2:23:46 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? Try this. A HREF=http://www.digitaltruth.com/;Digitaltruth: Photo Source/A Ed M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography in Mali, once again
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph, I have shot the Optima and found it to be a bit contrasty. To try to get the people and landscape, I would try Fuji Reala 100 and/or Kodak Portra 160NC. Both are much lower contrast. Hi Joseph, I agree with Bruce, Reala and Portra 160NC are my choice when I have to work in situations like the one you described. I prefer Reala for landscapes and Portra for people (I often use fill flash, though). Gianfranco Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographing documents - Slide film, flash? and lens type
Natural light is easier, typically more even and defused, just don't do it in direct sunlight. If the drawing is under glass or the surface has any degree of reflectance, make sure you use a polarizer to eliminate them. This is easier to see under natural light but not with flash because of the short duration. Choice of film depends on the subject matter. If you have any whites then use a film that does not have enhanced colour, for instance Fuji Provia 100F, which is the finest grained film available and will keep your whites clean. If you wish to have enhanced colours and there are no whites or greys, then Velvia would be a good choice. If using Velvia and you have large expanses of single colour, there may be a tendency to block up if you expose at the rated ASA 50, try exposing at ASA 40. If you don't have access to a source for these pro grade films, Kodak Extachrome Extra Colour may be a good compromise. It has somewhat enhanced colour, but keeps the whites and greys cleaner and cost a whole lot less. Choice of lens is simple if you have a 50 or 100 mm macro, these lenses are designed to provide a flat field of focus. If you don't have a macro then use whatever lens you have that will allow you to fill your frame with the drawing and use a small aperture, no wider than f8. The use of a tripod is a given as is mirror pre-lock if your camera allows. If no pre-lock, then avoid shutter speeds in the 1/8 to 1/30 range. Cheers, and good luck. Mike. Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: Turning into a busy weekend. I finished last night's ballet performance and now have a new project I need help on. I have never used slide film, and have photographed only people and places. My daughter is submitting an application to a College of Design and they require slides of her design drawings. First question - the College FAQs suggest shooting outdoors in daylight, which is possible. Should I do this or use flash? Second question - what slide film for daylight, or what slide film for flash? Third question - what focal length lens? Short and up-close like 28-35mm, or perhaps a portrait-lens length of 100-135mm? Maris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auro Show Snaps
I should really apologize to one and all. I was poking fun at Shel and none of you have ever actually seen me. I am 6-feet 3 3/4-inches tall, and for most of my life weighed in excess of 300 pounds. In fact, two years ago I peaked out at 375 pounds. So, remembering this, I got a real chuckle at Shel saying that using flash was too intrusive. Hell, all I had to do to be intrusive was to be where other people were. Len --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Auro Show Snaps Len, arguing about Shel's shooting style, suggests he must be threatening and is way too tall to be stealthy... Len, Shel visited Chicago this summer and I got a chance to shoot some with him. I learned alot about shooting people by just watching his body language and how he approached people. It was inspiring for me, as I have worked most on objects and not people. Shel has a unique ability to engage people who are near him with a warm smile and a ready greeting. It's kind of a disarming charm...and then he asks them if he can photograph them! We encountered two Chicago Police officers that morning. The first was a veteran traffic officer, female, probably 5' 6 tall, Black and grumpy. Shel disarmed her (not literally) and got some pictures of her. I'm sure she didn't know why Shel wanted the shots. The other officer was also a woman, mounted on horseback. Shel stopped to take pictures of her on horseback and stopped to talk. When she noticed both of us, she volunteered to pose with Shel and the horse for me! I tell you, Shel has magic powers! We also stopped for a couple of beers and Shel got off some shots with the M3 of an odd couple around the elbow of the bar before I recognized he was doing anything. He can be stealthy. Regards, Bob S. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Film Developing
Thanks, Gianfranco - it's precisely what I was looking for. I'll be developing film tonight... Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gianfranco Irlanda Hi Bill, Try: http://www.digitaltruth.com/ Gianfranco - Original Message - From: William D. Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Film Developing I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[3]: Photography in Mali, once again
Hi, it's interesting to hear that. I've only used Supra 100 in this country (UK), and not much of it at that. It's been ok, but I haven't shot in highly contrasty conditions here. When I use Supra I normally use the 400. The Portra sounds like a good idea, so I'll try some of that before my next trip. I don't like flash because I've brought myself up in the tradition of photographers who don't use flash. There are several other reasons why I don't like it. For the reasons that Shel often gives, namely that it is too obtrusive; also, I find it very unpredictable and difficult to use, so I'm not at all confident with it; I think that it's very noticeable when it's been used (of course if it's good I wouldn't know it had been used) and it looks artificial. In the situations that I like to photograph it would be (imo) highly impolite to blast away with a flashgun going off - one of the reasons why I'm now mostly using Leicas, because they are so quiet and discreet. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, November 17, 2001, 8:39:09 PM, you wrote: Bob, I found your post interesting. I have shot quite a bit of Supra 100 and find it to be somewhat contrasty. A good friend of mine just came back from Africa having shot mostly Supra 100. I can say that the film didn't hold up all that well to the contrast. I would certainly give Konica Impressa 50, Fuji Reala 100 and possibly one of the portrait films a try. In my test and usage, these films handle high contrast much better. They don't work as well when the conrast drops too much. I was also a bit surprised by your comment about hating fill flash. I am wondering why? When done properly, the only telltale sign is a catchlight in the eyes (usually a good thing). I have done many shots with fill flash and without (back to back) and when the shadows are strong, fill flash really comes to the rescue. Care to elaborate on your feelings? Bruce - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographing documents - Slide film, flash? and lens type
Maris, I've been successful using Kodachrome 64 or Ecktachrome 400 in daylight or for flash. The size of the material you are copying will determine how you do things. I've done a 100mm macro on a tripod in front of the picture window in my living room. Sun shines from right to left across the object and I've used some white paper as a reflector to balance the sunlight from side to side. I've shot downward at a 45 degree angle with the 100mm lens. It keeps the tripod from casting shadows. You can try using two flashes or bounce flash, but it is trickier unless you have TTL flash (Super Program, LX, SF-1, PZ-1 and newer). I've done it with 2 AF280's. My suggestions: Any daylight slide film in daylight or with flash if you must. A moderately long lens, say 100mm. A 50mm if the drawings are 8 by 10. Don't use a 28mm unless the artworks are really BIG. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My daughter is submitting an application to a College of Design and they require slides of her design drawings. First question - the College FAQs suggest shooting outdoors in daylight, which is possible. Should I do this or use flash? Second question - what slide film for daylight, or what slide film for flash? Third question - what focal length lens? Short and up-close like 28-35mm, or perhaps a portrait-lens length of 100-135mm? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographing documents - Slide film, flash? and lens type
Hi Maris ... I'd pretty much agree with just much of what has been said, but, depending on the size of the documents, I'd suggest using a copy stand which will hold the work in perfect alignment with the film plane. Of course, not many people have access to a copy stand, and depending on how critical the work has to be it may not be necessary. Instead of putting the work on a wall and shooting from a tripod, try placing the work on the floor or table, and shooting straight down with the camera on the tripod. This can provide a more critical alignment if you have a head with built-in bubble levels, or you can get an inexpensive level at the local hardware store. Not all tripods have a head that allows for shooting in that position, but if you've got one, it may be the way to go. A macro lens is ideal, of course, but baring that the SMC Pentax K105/2.8 and the 135/2.5 are excellent for this purpose, especially with a standard extension tube or the helicoid extension tube. The K85/1.8 is also an excellent lens, and perhaps a little better in one way, as it, and some of the other 85mm lenses, require that the focusing collar be turned a great deal to move from infinity to closest focusing. This allows making very fine focusing adjustments a little easier than with lenses that require only 90- or 120-degrees to go from close focus to infinity. While you want to stop down a bit, you also want to keep the shutter speed either above 1/30 second or below 1/4 second. Many SLR cameras have a vibration that's hard to eliminate at speeds between 1/30th and 1/8th second. Here's the perfect place to use a camera with MLU or, perhaps, mirror pre-fire. Be sure to either use a cable release or the camera's self timer. And also be sure the tripod is very stable and perhaps even weighted down to reduce vibration and movement. HTH ... I hope I didn't forget anything. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My daughter is submitting an application to a College of Design and they require slides of her design drawings. First question - the College FAQs suggest shooting outdoors in daylight, which is possible. Should I do this or use flash? Second question - what slide film for daylight, or what slide film for flash? Third question - what focal length lens? Short and up-close like 28-35mm, or perhaps a portrait-lens length of 100-135mm? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter_pow.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:12:44 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: I certainly wouldn't have spent a thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am, by the way; I'm just being cautious.) I feel exactly the same, I was planning on buying the 3-lens limited set (31, 43 and 77) for my MZ-3 / PZ1 / LX, and waiting for the MZ-D to use them on later. I will certainly wait for a formal announcement of a new Pentax Digital SLR now! I'm sure we're not the only ones who have deferred purchases until the situation is clarified. I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4. If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D, I will get one for sure ... I won't buy one until full-frame version is available, but the release of any digital SLR - even with a smaller-than-full-frame CCD - would give me enough confidence to resume buying Pentax gear in general (a 15mm would be first on my list: I would have killed for one today!) What's interesting is that within two or three years we'll see people just getting into photography (just getting serious about it, anyway) *starting out* with a digital SLR, having moved up from an all-in-one digicam. Then later, when they consider *film* (it'll happen eventually!), they'll look for a film camera that's compatible with the lenses they already have for their digital. Just the opposite of the situation we have now. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
Mark Roberts wrote: I'm sure we're not the only ones who have deferred purchases until the situation is clarified. I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4. If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D, I will get one for sure ... I haven't deferred any purchases because of that. In fact, I bought the MZ-S after Pentax announce they had axed the MZ-D project. and if I can afford a Limited 31 mm. in the near future, I'll buy it. My digital needs are covered by a Minolta film scanner a modest flatbed scanner, an Artec AS6E. I would only consider a digital SLR if it were full frame, and when it is in my price bracket. I know that both things won't happen in the near future, but I am not in a hurry. I would add to the conditions i've said before, a decent image quality and of course, a K-mount that accepts all my lenses. 6 Mpixels is not enough in my opinion. I understand that PJs and some other people may need the kind of digital SLR's we see in the market now, and then some people also feel the urge to keep pace with the latest technology only for the sake of it, but in my case I still feel that my film cameras are much better than those expensive toys. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: TTL multiflash with METZ
Frantisek, I use that almost every time I use my Metz flash, but you don't need another flash. I have the 40MZ-2, which has the big flash that you can bounce on the ceiling or wall, and there is also a small flash built in that you can switch on/off as desired. The little flash is direct. The flash comes with two ND filters you can put in front of the small flash, so you have three output levels available for the small flash. BTW, my SCA unit is the SCA3702. With another flash and a SCA3800 I could use a wireless TTL slave as well. I don't have that though. Frits Wüthrich Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Hi, I use the German SCA 300 system, with Metz flashes. I have been thinking about the multiflash adapter SCA 605A (or which # it is), which allows connection of two or more ttl units. I would like to have one on camera and the other bounced, for contrast control flash, or maybe one on bracket one on camera, with about 1:3 ratio. Is it possible to do it with TTL metering via the multiflash adapter? Metz sells ND filters and they say use of the filters on one of the flashes works that way - for ratio of ttl flashes. Anybody tried it? Thanks Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Len's Opinion Site - Beta version of update available
Stan H. wrote: If you would like to view, and give me comments on, the new material, please go to home.kc.rr.com/smhalpin/index.shtml Stan, It seems I can't get there from here, as the old Vermont joke goes. I get a Not Found warning. Can you give me any hints as to how I might find it? --Mike P.S. Lens Opinion Site has no apostrophe in it, unless it belongs to a guy named Len. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: I just got engaged
Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nate asked me to marry him tonight Wow! This guy was in even more of a hurry than Mr. Jeepgirl! and I accepted. :) So the honeymoon begins tomorrow? ;-) Congrats -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Photography in Mali, once again
I used Konica Impressa 50 in San Francisco - I was impressed and I recommend it. Maris - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Re[2]: Photography in Mali, once again | Bob, | | I found your post interesting. I have shot quite a bit of Supra 100 | and find it to be somewhat contrasty. A good friend of mine just came | back from Africa having shot mostly Supra 100. I can say that the | film didn't hold up all that well to the contrast. | | I would certainly give Konica Impressa 50, Fuji Reala 100 and possibly | one of the portrait films a try. In my test and usage, these films | handle high contrast much better. They don't work as well when the | conrast drops too much. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film Developing
Bill S. wrote: I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? How come you're set on this particular combination, if you haven't tried it and (apparently) haven't had it recommended to you by someone who uses it? I'm not trying to be belligerent (honest), just curious. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What can you get away with?
Shel Caesar wrote: Et Tu, Mike? No, just speaking for myself --Mike P.S. Along these lines, folks should take a look at some of Robert Frank's pictures, like the great picture in _The Americans_ of the black couple (titled San Francisco) lying on the ground at the very bottom of the frame, with the man glaring at Frank. There's another one in _Lines of My Hand_ (I'm going on memory here, so please don't kill me if I'm wrong) of a woman in a convertible ahead of him obviously yelling angrily at him. In at least a few cases he uses peoples' hostility to his advantage. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
I'm using an 870, the 1270's little brother. I'm trying to figure out how people are getting bad results. How did it suck? I have a feeling that people are following the conventional wisdom and outputting only 300dpi or so. Ilford states that their papers needs start at 720 dpi. I haven't put anything less than a 15 meg file to the printer, and those are for 8x10s! I haven't worked out the dpi yet, but I'm sure that I'm well above the 300 and even the 720 that has been recommended... Isaac - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: Re: The suspense is over... What printer are you using? I tried Ilford once on my Epson 1270 and it did suck. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Isaac Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: The suspense is over... Ilford inkjet papers are amazing! I just printed up some scans on both the perl and smooth gloss papers and I am amazed. The guys I work with warned me that the Ilford papers suck, that you can't get detail, the ink pools, etc... This just proves what I've thought all along, if they were great printers and photoshop users, they'd work somewhere else...:-) I've been very impressed so far, no more color darkroom work for me! Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film Developing
- Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Film Developing Bill S. wrote: I wrote a few days ago asking for pointers for developing Agfa APX 100 in Microdol-X. Since no one responded, I presume no one had any experience. That being the case, can anyone suggest either a website or a darkroom book that might give the preferred dilution/development times for this combination. I've been to Agfa and Kodak websites w/o success, and have emailed their respective technical people for their input. Is there any help here? How come you're set on this particular combination, if you haven't tried it and (apparently) haven't had it recommended to you by someone who uses it? I'm also curious. I haven't tried that combo, but I'd imagine it to be rather blah looking. Of course I have that reaction to just about anything souped in microdal x. Isaac I'm not trying to be belligerent (honest), just curious. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What can you get away with?
Ed wrote: But you have to admit that there is something in common in that type of personality that shares a thread with some of the great photojournalists, and there are definitely times I wish I had a little more of it than I do. Me too. And it surely is a quality of at least some great photojournalists. I've always considered that people choose a basic subject matter based not only on the kind of pictures they like, but on the kind of pictures they're comfortable taking. I think a lot of landscape photographers are comfortable with a slow and deliberate methodology, but I also think that some of them just aren't comfortable confronting people and taking pictures of them. I've had good luck over the years with portraits from fairly lengthy sittings, but this suits my personality--I connect most easily with people one-on-one and in some depth, whereas I often have no idea what to say at cocktail parties. I noticed long ago that I get better photographs when I have permission to be shooting someone or somewhere. That's just me. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The suspense is over...
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: RE: The suspense is over... how much do they cost? Hmmm... I get the company rate since I work there, so I don't really know off the top of my head. Check out http://www.penncamera.com/shop.cfm for our latest prices... Isaac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Isaac Crawford Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The suspense is over... Ilford inkjet papers are amazing! I just printed up some scans on both the perl and smooth gloss papers and I am amazed. The guys I work with warned me that the Ilford papers suck, that you can't get detail, the ink pools, etc... This just proves what I've thought all along, if they were great printers and photoshop users, they'd work somewhere else...:-) I've been very impressed so far, no more color darkroom work for me! Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (no subject)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (no subject) Hi Guys..I've been out of touch with the PDML for a couple of months..can you update me about the Pentax SLR digital body (MZ-D ?) release date Thanx, It will be released at the Ulan Bator show in 2007. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Want Fujica ST605 or ST705 camera body
Hi If you have a Fujica ST605 or ST705 camera body for sale, please give me an email off list. Thanks! Frankie - Åwªï¨Ï¥ÎHongKong.com¶l¥ó¨t²Î Thank you for using hongkong.com Email system - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
At 04:36 PM 11/16/01 +1100, you wrote: Hi, From my calculations it should start at 4:00am in Melbourne. As its 1:00 am for HK and 2:00am for Tokyo and Melbourne is 3 hours infront of HK and 2 hours in front of Tokyo. What times sunrise in Sydney and Melbourne at the moment? How do you calculate this? Gary J. Sibio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Speaking of intrusive
Who would or could be ~more~ intrusive or obvious in any venue than a Motor/Winder equipped camera and big f/2.8 70-200 PENTAX zoom lens with camera bag (with monopod sticking out), Fila (knitted prayer cap) wearing, two shades lighter than peanut-butter colored Muslim? (Me.) As I finish loading my EKTAPRESS site, (If September 11 hadn't happened, you could view the EKTAPRESS page now) there is a section of my PJ candids. You'll be able to judge for yourself whether it's the photographer or what. But then, sticking cameras in peoples faces was what I did for 37 years and since I got used to it, I never gave a thought to whether I had permission. I didn't sneak then and don't now. *Didn't point cameras at Police overseas though, Police being what they are; and can be. Happily, I've never tried to be an artist with a camera or of being on some existential mission. I saw, I shot. **Then again, it may just have been all that PJ hubris. But judge for yourself. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
I worked out the equivelant time in Melbourne to the one shown in Tokyo and HK. I just heard on the time on TV for Melbourne and it does start at 4am. Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular At 04:36 PM 11/16/01 +1100, you wrote: Hi, From my calculations it should start at 4:00am in Melbourne. As its 1:00 am for HK and 2:00am for Tokyo and Melbourne is 3 hours infront of HK and 2 hours in front of Tokyo. What times sunrise in Sydney and Melbourne at the moment? How do you calculate this? Gary J. Sibio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonid meteor shower could be truly spectacular
Paul Jones wrote: I worked out the equivelant time in Melbourne to the one shown in Tokyo and HK. I just heard on the time on TV for Melbourne and it does start at 4am. Well, I might just sleep through it all... Weather has turned nasty here in Byron Bay and thunder storms are forcast :( Good shooting to those with a view Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .