Re: Why is Kodak Gold Max evil?
In a message dated 11/22/01 11:51:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > See now, if you printed digitally, you could remove those casts > easily... (ducking for cover...) > I do print digitals on occasion. But doing an 11x14 portrait digitally is beyond my capabilities. And nope, even with smaller digital prints, you only trade one tone/cast for another, never getting what you want (referencing ~only~ Black skin and purple-brown shadows in FUJI films). Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The true cost of "free" di gital?
Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My interest in digital isn't saving money, it's > that I can do better photography with it. Here's > an example: > http://pug.komkon.org/01jan/Woman_2_Nampala_PUG.html I would wonder whether you could have pulled the same details out of a photo taken with a digital camera as you've done with colour neg film and a PhotoCD. It seems to me that with a digital camera you wouldn't get as much shadow or highlight information as in the neg? Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
In a message dated 11/22/01 8:20:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Had you qualified your remark I may have let it stand, but as stated, it > is flat out wrong. > I spend as much as six weeks a ~year~ (April, October) in the environs of the Department Du Nord (Milo, Lambert and the northern capitol, Cap Haitien), [a short commute on Tiger Air from Ft. Lauderdale] Haiti, "the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere" by most accounts, with occasional forays into the Dominican Republic (same island: Hispaniola) and Cuba. Milo, where my Uncle lives, has municipal electricity only about six hours a day (he has his own HONDA generators). Does that qualify me? And Shel, you (nor Robb) will get no more point for point, parsing minutiae responses from me. The topic here is (was) ~not~ Mafud, as you and Robb seem to want to make it. Stick to the topic (or moment) of discussion. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "For Sale" Fridays?
"For Sale" Fridays works for me. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-L/MZ-6 official specs released
Pentax has released details on MZ-L/MZ-6 (+ 28-90 F3.5-5.6 and AF360FGZ): http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/200146.html I don't recall it being mentioned in previous news on the MZ-L, but if I understand the specs correctly, it does seem to support spot metering using AE Lock + PF functions. All in all, a nice merge of features from MZ-5 and MZ-7 + some more: AF Servo mode (set by PF) Spot metering, Spot AF Advanced Flash (Wireless, P-TTL, High speed sync, flash exposure compensation) Custom Pentax functions Multiple exposure Exposure bracketing IR Remote (you can select whether AF is enabled during remote operations) -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
Here it comes again... Always... Without fail... From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > He meant Harlem, Saskatchewan. > > > > Tom C. > > > > "Am I the dunce, that I should believe you?" > Anon. > > The goegraphical references were crystal clear to me Tom, choosing both > Ethiopia and Harlem to relate to poverty. > My remarks stand. > > Mafud - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
In a message dated 11/22/01 6:24:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Deductions are not 100% money-in-the-pocket. It depends on your tax > bracket. > > 100% amortized for a person in a 28% tax bracket means only that you have > recouped $280 on the $1,000 you have spent, so you are still out of pocket > by $720. > > Work out the math. > > Maris > Maris, IN THE UNITED STATES, if you pay $1,000 for an item used ~in your business~, you have two ways to amortize the cost: regular or accelerated depreciation. Either way, you bought $1,000 worth of business equipment and can (IRS says you "must") depreciate the total cost, plus the cost of maintenance on the equipment, choosing the standard which best fits into the accounting methods you first chose when you started your business. As for taxes: corporations don't have IRS "tax brackets," only individuals. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-Fangled Color Film
Originally, apochromatic lens were intended for process work. Separate negatives were exposed for the cyan, magenta, yellow, and black separations. The all needed exactly the same reproduction ratio so could not be refocused for the various separations. For general photography there were (are) very few lenses that meet the optical definition for apocromatism. The various manufacturers use their own definition for how far off the focus for each color can be, and very few of them publish that definition. Most, if not all, depend upon depth of focus to make up the difference. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-Fangled Color Film > Hi, > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > Recent threads have got me to thinkin' about this new-fangled colour > > film. B&W film generally has but one layer, and color film has three or > > four layers. Now, when one focuses, does all the light converge on one > > plane? > > This is something which has intrigued me since the introduction > of "apo" lenses. Assumedly, film manufacturers are striving to > create better colour, etc, and thereby causing the film to > become marginally thicker. Contrariwise, lens manufacturers are > convincing us that we should be buying lenses which focus light > of all colours in the same plane. > > A paradox of the first order, unless. the margins of error > are so small as to be unnoticable. No, perish the thought that > this could all be marketing speak! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Interpolation (Was Re: The true cost of "free" digital?)
As far as I can tell the only purpose of interpolation settings on a scanner is advertising, I know of no one who is serious about scanning who uses anything but the optical settings. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Francis Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:19 AM > Question unrelated to cost of digital: what's the purpose of > interpolation in the scanner, versus interpolating/resampling on the > computer? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
I would think the reletive value would depend on whether you have $30 in your pocket to spend, or just $10. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > In a message dated 11/22/01 11:17:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Disposables are probably just about the most expensive kind of camera one > > can buy. While in Florida I was going to get one for the beach. Let's see, > > I can buy 3 single-use 24 exposure cameras for around $25.00, or I can buy a > > cheapo P&S for $20.00 and a 4-pack of film for $8.00. I've now spent > > $28.00, only $3.00 more, I have an extra roll of film, and a camera I can > > use over and over. Disposables are one of the biggest ripoffs I've seen in > > a long time. > > > > Tom C. > > > They are produced by the millions for those who need a camera and don't have > one. The cost to the person buying the camera is of no concern to them at > that point. And yes, they are expensive. > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Time to Make Subjective PUG Comments Again
Thanks for you kind comments Tom. William in Utah. aimcompute wrote: > > Many good shots in the November PUG. These were the ones I felt compelled > to comment on. > > " First light " by William Johnson > Wow! What a shot. Moody. I like the lighting on the rock in the > foreground. You'll be happy to know my 10-yr old son, just this second, > walked up and said "What's that? That's strange! Did he take it with some > kind of strange camera or something? Why does it look like that?" Well > done... it invokes wonder. Gets the B&W Landscape Award! >snip> > Tom C. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
In a message dated 11/22/01 5:59:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > He meant Harlem, Saskatchewan. > > Tom C. > "Am I the dunce, that I should believe you?" Anon. The goegraphical references were crystal clear to me Tom, choosing both Ethiopia and Harlem to relate to poverty. My remarks stand. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The true cost of "free" digital?
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: Re: The true cost of "free" digital? > Hi Joseph ... > > The photo is very nice, and I can see why you like it. However, if > there is detail in the negative, it can be printed conventionally. Detail is one thing, but accurate colors in areas that need extensive dodging and burning are another. There are many color correction techniques that cannot be performed in the darkroom that are easily done in the digital realm. After learning some of the possibilities of photoshop, I no longer see any point to conventional printing in a color darkroom. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the digitally corrected image would not be able to be duplicated in a conventional darkroom... Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax nowhere? (Friday Pic)
On 23 Nov 2001, at 16:21, Paul Jones wrote: > Hi, > > There are 4 shops i can think of in the Melbourne CBD which have an MZ-S on > display. Also one shop that has a 43/1.9 mounted on an MZ3. > > Apparently the MZ-S's have been selling quite well, i've noticed there are > alot of LXs on the market, so people must be changing over. A friend of mine had Fletchers (the largest Sydney photo retailer) order one in for him, I bought mine O/S and saved 35% including freight and tax. The MZ-S isn't replacing my LX, I don't know why other people are selling but I see the pair as complementary I certainly don't view the MZ-S as a replacement to the LX. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax nowhere? (Friday Pic)
Hi, There are 4 shops i can think of in the Melbourne CBD which have an MZ-S on display. Also one shop that has a 43/1.9 mounted on an MZ3. Apparently the MZ-S's have been selling quite well, i've noticed there are alot of LXs on the market, so people must be changing over. - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Pentax nowhere? (Friday Pic) > On 21 Nov 2001, at 10:03, Pål Audun Jensen wrote: > > > Pretty weird. I'm now in Oslo. I've seen the MZ-S with battery grip in two > > different shops. Note that those are the only shops I've visited - there could > > be more. One of them had all three Limited lenses on display, the FA* 85/1.4, > > FA* 400/5.6, FA* 24/2, FA 50/2.8 Macro + a considerable number of Pentax > > consumer zooms. > > In Australia I have yet to see any of the Limited lenses or the MZ-S on > display. Whilst in Hong Kong last October I saw quite a bit of Pentax gear on > display including Limited lenses however no MZ-S. My partner Ger caught > this though: > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/mz-s.jpg > > Shot on Portra 400VC, SuperA + SMCPA50f1.4, Sai Yeung Choi St, > Kowloon, Mon Kok > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-Fangled Color Film)
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-Fangled Color Film) > Now this I'd like to hear more about. Can you elaborate on this point, > specifically, how do manufacturers get away with labeling a lens as > Apochromatic when it isn't? Is the term "APO" used to imply that a lens > is apochromatic, when, in fact, it's just a model name given to the > lens? Which lenses that are designated as "APO" lenses are not, in > fact, apochromatic? Which are? Just a few examples would be > appreciated. The questions that arise are which three wavelengths of light, to what degree do they converge, at what fstop and focus distance do they qualify, and how do you measure this all crop up when you ask the above questions. There isn't (AFIK) any standard for judging what apo correction actually means. Therefore you end up seeing big difference between a Zeiss APO-Tessar for the Hasselblad, APO Artar lenses for large format (only judged apo at 1:1 magnification), and a Sigma APO lens (God only knows what they use to judge). The best advise is to ignore any APO designation that isn't carefully explained, or better yet just ignore the APO designation all together. In reality, there are very few types of photography that have to have that kind of correction... Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
Chris Brogden wrote: > > Here comes Mister Bill's dog... > Oh, look, Mr. Bill, it's the Famous Photographer Mr. Sluggo! Don't be > worried--he just wants Spot to hold his flash powder for him... Ka- Bloom! [ accompanied by a blinding incandescense ] HAR! indeed! !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Vivitar 28mm F2.8 KA/R
After a recent aquisition I have available a Vivitar 28mm F2.8 in KA/R mount, 49mm filter thread. I do not advise the use of this lens on AF cameras due to the extra ricoh pin which jams on the AF shaft ( which is the case in many KA/R lenses ). It is in decent shape with only a few minor nicks on the barrel, no scratches on the glass or fungus but there are 1 or 2 dust specs inside . The aperture ring is loose and when set to "A" can move enough to F22, this I have noticed in 2 other Vivitar lenses, will not affect an all manual camera or when used in manual mode. Comes with original front and rear caps, no box or manual. Asking $30 usd plus shipping or decent offer. ___ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why is Kodak Gold Max evil?
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Why is Kodak Gold Max evil? > In a message dated 11/21/01 8:45:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > If you haven't shot it, Mafud, I think you really owe it to yourself to > > try a roll of either NPS or NPH from Fuji. They are gorgeous, smooth, > > natural, low contrast negative films, with exceptionally tight grain for > > their speeds. > > > But I have. Like most FUJI film, they still give brown to bluish to greenish > shadows on people of color, especially dark skinned people. Worse, really > dark skinned people take on a orangey-red undertone. See now, if you printed digitally, you could remove those casts easily... (ducking for cover...) Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "For Sale" Fridays?
I like the idea. Jim A. > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: AudioBias Systems Engineering > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:53:15 +1000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: "For Sale" Fridays? > > Hi Team, > > What's the consensus on making Fridays a PDML market day? (can exist > along with the standard Friday frivolities). > > I simply propose that if any listers have gear for sale that it be listed on a > Friday, it might promote a bit more scope for exchange or trade? > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Brochure
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Wendy Beard wrote: > Why on earth would people want to bid on an MZ-S brochure? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1299168724 I work in a camera store... man, I'll make a *killing*! :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "For Sale" Fridays?
Wendy Beard wrote: > At 20:20 22-11-2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: "For Sale" Fridays? >> >> I simply propose that if any listers have gear for sale that it be >> listed on a >> Friday, it might promote a bit more scope for exchange or trade? > Good idea, Rob! > (what're you selling? :-) ) Good question. He knows, of course, that half of the list seems to have a few tots on Friday before posting the worst puns and jokes they can remember (me included -- I am not accusing anyone of sins that are not also mine). Perhaps he expects us to overbid in our weakened conditions. :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-Fangled Color Film
OOOPs! Just goes to show ya...If photography is such an "inexact" (sic) science, doesn't that mean that fools like me get lucky once in a while? You betcha! Now there's something to be thankful for! Cheers and Happy Holidays to everyone one this great list...bob --- Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike W. wrote: > > > A paradox of the first order, unless. the > margins of error > > are so small as to be unnoticable. ! > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > = What boots up must come down. Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-Fangled Color Film
--- Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike W. wrote: > > > A paradox of the first order, unless. the > margins of error > > are so small as to be unnoticable. ! > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > = What boots up must come down. Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S Brochure
Why on earth would people want to bid on an MZ-S brochure? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1299168724 Pentax Canada just sent me two of them for nothing. I just ticked some info box or other on their site. And you can pick them up for free in the shops too. H, I see a money-making opportunity... Wendy (not likely to make me rich though, is it) --- Wendy & Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Universal tripod mount
Ken Archer wrote: > > I was trying to hand-hold a 70-210 lens with a 2X extender on it and > the thought occured to me that somewhere, someplace, someone must make > a universal mount for a lens that you could use in that type of > situation. The lens combination is too heavy to hang off a camera. > Has anyone seen such a thing? Bogen has two solutions: One is a rectangular frame that appears to compete with the Wimberly - people don't say kind things about it, and it would probably be overkill for the situation you describe. Bogen also makes a long lens "stabilizer" that is comprised of a gizmo that looks a little like a focusing rail - with the far end having a strap arrangement to secure the front of a lens. It's adjustable - one size fits all. I've been toying with the idea of buying this latter item, thinking it might help when I use my 70-300 zoom at 300, especially in "macro". Any camera store that sells Bogen, and a lot do, should have the current catalogue. Flip to the back and you'll find it. I don't have one handy or I'd give you a part number. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonoid Meteor pic
This one was 45 sec F2.8, MZ-3 vivitar 28mm --- Timothy Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool! Do you have the technical specs on that photo? > > t > > On 11/22/01 10:50 AM, Brendan wrote: > > > Unfortunaltly most of the images were wased out > due to > > light polution but for those who missed the > shower. > > > > > > > http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/a002.jpg > > > > > ___ > > Build your own website in minutes and for free at > http://ca.geocities.com > > - > ___ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Thursday, November 22, 2001, at 06:35 PM, Ken Archer wrote: > > > In South Texas we would address you as Mr. Bill. I guess that would be > > respectful and friendly. > > OH NO! He's gonna be MEAN to me! > > -Aaron > > Here comes Mister Bill's dog... Oh, look, Mr. Bill, it's the Famous Photographer Mr. Sluggo! Don't be worried--he just wants Spot to hold his flash powder for him... :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First tripod
Eric Ming Hui wrote: > > >I have a feeling I'll be getting a tripod this Christmas ;) > > > >This will be my first tripod, but that doesn't mean I'm after a > >cheap one; I'm willing to spend a bit more to get one that will > >last my whole photographic career (up to £100). I'm based in the > >U.K., and am currently just looking at the Jessops catalog. > >(BTW, Are Jessops' own brand tripods ok?) > > > >Any tips/advice/money greatly appreciated! > > I recommend the Slik U212 Deluxe. Its a great tripod, not too heavy but > very stable. > It costs less than $100. > For more information, visit > http://www.sunpak.com/15d.html I bought a Slik Able 300 DX about two years ago for just under USA 100. Comes complete with a nice 3-way head, the quick release plates are cheap but more than adequate, and you can get an optional short centerpost. This gets lower and higher than the old Bogen 3001, and has a broader base to boot. Though I recently bought a much heavier Bogen 3221 Wilderness, my Slik is FAR from retired. It's lighter, and when I'm going to do any significant amount of walking, the bigger better Bogen stays in the car. I've often thought the first tripod should be a good light-weight one. Less expense, and provided the thing is sturdy enough, you'll still need it once you buy the bigger ones. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > More succinctly: you need electricity to use a computer or view images on it. > To view photographs, one only needs ~light~. And in 100 years, our great-great-grandchildren will still be able to see the images as long as they have electicity... while yours will need a time machine, since the negatives and prints will have become unviewable by then. And guess what? A print from a digital file is just as viewable under light as a print from a negative. You seem to keep forgetting about that point. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Help with LX metering issue
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Jan van Wijk wrote: > Sure, the above might be true, but does not account for > the 1 to 2 stop difference you see. > > The LX keeps measuring DURING the automatic exposure, and closes the > shutter when enough light has accumulated. It does this using the reflection > on the actual film-surface wich is a medium gray. Nope, the film surface is *not* a medium grey... not AFAIK anyway. The LX's black-and-white shutter curtains average out to be roughly medium grey, so the exposure you see in the viewfinder is the recommended shutter speed for the availalbe light, assuming that your subject is a medium grey. Film surfaces can vary by more than a stop in terms of reflectivity, so it's possible that the difference in times (assuming that the light remains constant) can be attributed to the reflectivity of the film itself differing from the medium grey of the shutter pattern. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: bidpay.com
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Ed wrote: > Does anyone here have experience with bidpay? They say it's OK > to send the goods once they send you the 2'nd confirmation e-mail, > because that means the check has been mailed. Is this true from > anyone here's experience? I've had two buyers who used Bidpay and it worked out okay each time. I'd still wait for the M.O. to arrive just to be safe. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "For Sale" Fridays?
Bon idee. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: "For Sale" Fridays? > Hi Team, > > What's the consensus on making Fridays a PDML market day? (can exist > along with the standard Friday frivolities). > > I simply propose that if any listers have gear for sale that it be listed on a > Friday, it might promote a bit more scope for exchange or trade? > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Universal tripod mount
I was trying to hand-hold a 70-210 lens with a 2X extender on it and the thought occured to me that somewhere, someplace, someone must make a universal mount for a lens that you could use in that type of situation. The lens combination is too heavy to hang off a camera. Has anyone seen such a thing? -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX Focusing Screens
Good idea, Rob ... another approach with the MX is to just not use the meter. Rob Studdert wrote: > Short of physically recalibrating the actual electronics of the camera at every > screen change just note the exposure difference between a screen of known > accuracy and the new screen and counter the difference by applying an > offset via the ISO selector (note the factor on each screen box). -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
"For Sale" Fridays?
Hi Team, What's the consensus on making Fridays a PDML market day? (can exist along with the standard Friday frivolities). I simply propose that if any listers have gear for sale that it be listed on a Friday, it might promote a bit more scope for exchange or trade? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Your favourite processing lab/s
Hi Team, I would like to compile a list of reliable labs for reference by travellers that will be posted for general reference on my web site. Given stepped up security world wide and the likelihood of increased x-ray use it would be great to be able to know where you can have your films processed reliably locally. Let me know the labs name, location, contacts and specialties and I'll add it to the list (please let me know if you would like your name to be included as the referee too). Thanks to the PDMLers who have sent me information in the past. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: bidpay.com
At 09:51 22-11-2001 -0500, you wrote: >From: "Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: bidpay.com > >Hi, > Does anyone here have experience with bidpay? They say it's OK to >send the goods once they send you the 2'nd confirmation e-mail, because >that means the check has been mailed. Is this true from anyone here's >experience? > >Thanks, >Ed Hi Ed, I've only had someone pay me using bidpay once but everything came though as expected. They track the money orders so know whether you've received it or it has been cashed, so they say. I've used bidpay for payment myself too and had no trouble. It just costs a little bit more than going to the bank. ($5 US instead of $4 or $5 CAN) Wendy --- Wendy & Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
Oh yea. Is the cash back in your bank account? You just didn't have to pay more out. Nice try! Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 11/22/01 3:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The entire depreciation arguement is a straw man. > > > > By what you said in your post Robb, you seem not to have grasped the finer > points of business depreciation of capital equipment. > Or you're exaggerating. > When any business gets 100% amortized deductions for equipment purchases or > the cost of doing business, the equipment does not "cost" you or your > business one thin dime, not even for the maintenance of said equipment. > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
Oh yea. Is the cash back in your bank account. You just didn't have to pay more out. Nice try! Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 11/22/01 3:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The entire depreciation arguement is a straw man. > > > > By what you said in your post Robb, you seem not to have grasped the finer > points of business depreciation of capital equipment. > Or you're exaggerating. > When any business gets 100% amortized deductions for equipment purchases or > the cost of doing business, the equipment does not "cost" you or your > business one thin dime, not even for the maintenance of said equipment. > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Where Do I Go...
The age-old question. I'm trying to look in the PDML archives prior to Nov 16 on the Watermarking subject and I can't seem to go any earlier. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[4]: Digital cameras are FREE
Hi, >> We may never learn the true extent that computers have penetrated Ethiopia. >> But the "low thousands" surely can't be correct in that the nation has >> electricity, In the main branch of the National Bank of Ethiopia, in Addis Ababa there are 150 tellers' booths servers customers. Behind each booth is a team of approximately 12 people doing the paperwork because they don't have computers. There are probably fewer than 10 computers in that part of the building, and they're used to calculate foreign exchange for people like me. This isn't a bank in some provincial hick town, this is the main branch of the national bank. The national airline has computers only in one or two offices in the capital and a couple of provincial towns. Everywhere else it takes 3 days to buy a ticket while they check availability over the phone. I've been into people's homes at both ends of the poverty spectrum, from the poorest of country people to international diplomats and none of them have computers. Last time I was there there was no water in Addis Ababa for 6 days. I went, with my diplomatic friends, to a reception given by the US amabassador at which nobody, and I mean nobody, had washed for 6 days! Believe me, computers are not widespread. > "Bear in mind that the average family income in these countries is less than > US$ 100- >> per year." > I'm not going to get into a p*issing match here, but your figures are far too > low and border on the ludicrous. the World Bank gives the per capita Gross National Income figure for Ethiopia in the year 2000 as exactly US$ 100-. (http://www.worldbank.org/data/countrydata/aag/eth_aag.pdf) > I made the original remark in context with being able to view pictures in those > countries without a vast network of electricity. Eastern Europe come easily > to mind. No. You made your remark in terms of the poorest countries, as follows: > Those who travel widely can testify that even in the poorest countries, > people have radios, CD players, film and digital cameras, ~AUTOMOBILES~, > televisions-etc.. ...and Ethiopia is not even the poorest country. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 22, 2001, 10:41:19 PM, you wrote: > In a message dated 11/22/01 2:56:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> "I'd guess that you could count the number of computers, etc., in private >> hands in Ethiopia in the low thousands, in a total population of about 60 >> million." >> >> We may never learn the true extent that computers have penetrated Ethiopia. >> But the "low thousands" surely can't be correct in that the nation has >> electricity, but not near the degree of America. I'm reminded that >> electricity is all over Europe, but outdoor toilets still prevail in some >> areas. Some areas of western Europe have more private telephones than >> indoor toilets. So electricity is not the benchmark to measure >> > "Most of the country doesn't have electricity to run these things. Most of > the people >> couldn't afford batteries even if they were available." > Again, you must not have traveled in the small metro areas I've been in." > "Bear in mind that the average family income in these countries is less than > US$ 100- >> per year." > I'm not going to get into a p*issing match here, but your figures are far too > low and border on the ludicrous. > Maybe we travel to different countries. "Poor" does not indicate "Destitute," > though some countries in eastern Europe qualify for the title, as well as a > nation like Ethiopia. My remark was not intended to explain poverty. I made > the original remark in context with being able to view pictures in those > countries without a vast network of electricity. Eastern Europe come easily > to mind. > More succinctly: you need electricity to use a computer or view images on it. > To view photographs, one only needs ~light~. > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
- Original Message - From: "Ken Archer" Subject: Re: Depreciation of assets > In South Texas we would address you as Mr. Bill. I guess that would be > respectful and friendly. Geee, only my very best frinds call me that WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
In South Texas we would address you as Mr. Bill. I guess that would be respectful and friendly. On Thursday 22 November 2001 17:13, William Robb wrote: > Also, you may address me as either William (formal), Bill > (friendly) or Mr. Robb. > Just "Robb" is disrespectful, and I don't tolerate that. > Thanks > William Robb Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
Deductions are not 100% money-in-the-pocket. It depends on your tax bracket. 100% amortized for a person in a 28% tax bracket means only that you have recouped $280 on the $1,000 you have spent, so you are still out of pocket by $720. Work out the math. Maris - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Depreciation of assets | In a message dated 11/22/01 3:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | > The entire depreciation arguement is a straw man. | > | | By what you said in your post Robb, you seem not to have grasped the finer | points of business depreciation of capital equipment. | Or you're exaggerating. | When any business gets 100% amortized deductions for equipment purchases or | the cost of doing business, the equipment does not "cost" you or your | business one thin dime, not even for the maintenance of said equipment. | | Mafud | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Depreciation of assets > > By what you said in your post Robb, you seem not to have grasped the finer > points of business depreciation of capital equipment. Or, I work under a different tax system than you do. > Or you're exaggerating. > When any business gets 100% amortized deductions for equipment purchases or > the cost of doing business, the equipment does not "cost" you or your > business one thin dime, not even for the maintenance of said equipment. Key word being "when". I only know how it works where I live. Foreign countries do it differently, I am sure. Also, you may address me as either William (formal), Bill (friendly) or Mr. Robb. Just "Robb" is disrespectful, and I don't tolerate that. Thanks William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MX Focusing Screens
Have you ever fitted a Pz1p screen in your Mx?? It works flawless. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] En nombre de Carlos Royo Enviado el: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2001 21:31 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: MX Focusing Screens Geoff Moes wrote: > > I've heard that in order to use LX screens in an MX you need to > have the meter recalibrated since the screens are brighter and the > meter reads from behind the screen. This could probably be > confirmed through experimentation. It also raises the question are > the LX screens consistent in there brightness or the recalibration > only be valid for certain screens? > Hi: I am going to quote myself. This is the message I sent to the list about this matter six months ago: "Yesterday I installed a SB-21 focusing screen, intended for use in the LX in my MX. The new focus screen is 1 and 1/2 stops brighter, then I have to compensate using the ASA scale of the exposure meter. That's the only change observed, besides the brighter image through the viewfinder, which makes focusing easier." -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
On 22 Nov 2001, at 10:43, David Brooks wrote: > I have started a search for a monopod to use > inconjuction with the N D1 i use for on site > stuff.I have been using the neck strap which > basicly is a "pain in the neck" and have seen others > using this camera carry a sturdy monopod. > Can any one help me start the search with > recommendations. > Its a heavy camera with lenses attached so a sturdy > pod is a must and i know nothing of add on heads > but would like one with a 90 degree tilt so i can > go from landscape-portrait quickly. > I have a light weight Slik i use for my video and > manual Pentax bodies but i'm afraid its to light for the > D1 Dave, Check out the Bogen/Manfrotto range, product details can be found at http://www.manfrotto.com/ , and for an idea of pricing http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ I use the ART #434B professional monopod and ART #308RC ball head, they are quite well priced and it's quite a light weight combo. When the leg sections are locked I can put all my weight on it and it will not collapse. The combo easily handles a big body and large zoom and any large lens (ie 400f2.8) that has a rotating lens collar. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX Focusing Screens
On 22 Nov 2001, at 10:45, Geoff Moes wrote: > I've heard that in order to use LX screens in an MX you need to > have the meter recalibrated since the screens are brighter and the > meter reads from behind the screen. This could probably be > confirmed through experimentation. It also raises the question are > the LX screens consistent in there brightness or the recalibration > only be valid for certain screens? Short of physically recalibrating the actual electronics of the camera at every screen change just note the exposure difference between a screen of known accuracy and the new screen and counter the difference by applying an offset via the ISO selector (note the factor on each screen box). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pancake lens
On 22 Nov 2001, at 7:06, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > From: "David A. Mann" > > > I have no idea why people pay so > > much for those things, but I can > > see how they'd be useful on an ME > > Super. That'd be almost as small as > > a rangefinder :) > > Actually, David, that would be a much smaller package than a Leica. A > Leica is about the same size as a Spotmatic or K1000. Hi Shel, If we are delving back as far as the ME Super then the RF of the day just might have the edge size wise, think Leica CL and Summicron 40mm f2 :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
He meant Harlem, Saskatchewan. Tom C. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE > In a message dated 11/22/01 3:06:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > "Harlem is a poor country." > > A cutting, vulgar reference Robb, and unforgivable. > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-5n and grip
Dave trust me it helps alot, and if you want you can try my MZ-3 and grip Fg or take my word on it :) --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "David Brooks" > Subject: MZ-5n and grip > > > > I was out on an errand for work yesterday and JUST > > HAPPENED to pass by Henrys north store so i popped > > in for a look at the MZ-5n kit they have on now. > > First time i held one and felt small rieght off > > the bat,but not to bad.Comes with the af35-80 zoom > > which seemed ok,but after a bit my right hand felt > > as if something else was needed. > > I know a battery grip is available(girl showing me > the > > camera was not a sales person)but one was not > available > > to try.Does the grip help make it FEEL like the > older > > bigger AF/MF cameras.I'v grown used to the grip > > on the SF-1,nice and big. > > I like the MZ-5 better with the battery pack. Think > of something > about the size of an autowinder on the bottom of the > camera, but > with nothing coming up the front, and you get the > idea. I > especially like being able to replace the batteries > for 5 > dollars, rather than 15. > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > ___ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
Start grasping the finer points Bill... Geez. Tom C. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Depreciation of assets > In a message dated 11/22/01 3:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > The entire depreciation arguement is a straw man. > > > > By what you said in your post Robb, you seem not to have grasped the finer > points of business depreciation of capital equipment. > Or you're exaggerating. > When any business gets 100% amortized deductions for equipment purchases or > the cost of doing business, the equipment does not "cost" you or your > business one thin dime, not even for the maintenance of said equipment. > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
It's a GOOD thing you said: > To view photographs, one only needs ~light~. > > Mafud Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
In a message dated 11/22/01 3:19:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The entire depreciation arguement is a straw man. > By what you said in your post Robb, you seem not to have grasped the finer points of business depreciation of capital equipment. Or you're exaggerating. When any business gets 100% amortized deductions for equipment purchases or the cost of doing business, the equipment does not "cost" you or your business one thin dime, not even for the maintenance of said equipment. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
In a message dated 11/22/01 3:02:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You mean for your 35, right? So, you have to factor in depreciation > into your camera and enlarger. You can't argue that one depreciates and > the other doesn't. > > -Aaron > Aaron, that was ~your~ original inference, not mine. Remember, I was the first to mention "cost" vis-a-vis "depreciation." Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
In a message dated 11/22/01 3:06:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "Harlem is a poor country." A cutting, vulgar reference Robb, and unforgivable. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
In a message dated 11/22/01 2:56:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "I'd guess that you could count the number of computers, etc., in private > hands in Ethiopia in the low thousands, in a total population of about 60 > million." > > We may never learn the true extent that computers have penetrated Ethiopia. > But the "low thousands" surely can't be correct in that the nation has > electricity, but not near the degree of America. I'm reminded that > electricity is all over Europe, but outdoor toilets still prevail in some > areas. Some areas of western Europe have more private telephones than > indoor toilets. So electricity is not the benchmark to measure > "Most of the country doesn't have electricity to run these things. Most of the people > couldn't afford batteries even if they were available." Again, you must not have traveled in the small metro areas I've been in." "Bear in mind that the average family income in these countries is less than US$ 100- > per year." I'm not going to get into a p*issing match here, but your figures are far too low and border on the ludicrous. Maybe we travel to different countries. "Poor" does not indicate "Destitute," though some countries in eastern Europe qualify for the title, as well as a nation like Ethiopia. My remark was not intended to explain poverty. I made the original remark in context with being able to view pictures in those countries without a vast network of electricity. Eastern Europe come easily to mind. More succinctly: you need electricity to use a computer or view images on it. To view photographs, one only needs ~light~. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Well, my digital camera is a Nikon Coolpix 100. I bought it new, so I hardly think you have been into digital longer than I have. I think Shel has mentioned he has a digital that he uses when he feels it is appropriate. And, it would not surprise me to find out that Mafud has a digital camera. There are times when digital is the proper venue. Just as there are times when 35mm is, or medium format, or larger format is. None are appropriate for everything. I think none of us you mentioned think digital is a bad thing, we just think that what we use is better for what we do. I, for one, think your dollar and cents analysis makes no sense. Because to do so you would have to compare equivalent cameras, and equivalent use. With the P&S digitals your mention you have to compare to 100-150 dollar P&S film cameras. Those are normally used by snap shooters who usually show anybody who will look all their prints. They want to do that at the office, on a park bench, or in their technophobic friends kitchen. So for them the first $600 worth of film and processing is free, and they probably shoot 6 to 10 rolls of film a year. Also I have argued here many times that for a money making photographer, a $10K digital is a cheap investment. One that he will soon have to make, or cease to be competitive. In the final analysis you are preaching to the chorus, but one that does not accept digital as being the "One True Religion". However, as I have said before. Real photographers use real cameras. The only real camera is a Speed Graphic. All there rest are just toys. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:46 AM Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > Tom R. wrote: > > > Let's see? From my view point you are trying to sell me an idea. Someone who > > is trying to sell me something is a salesman. > > I think that's nonsense. Are you paying me anything? No. Do I care if you > accept my views as your own? Not in the slightest. In fact, I don't expect > you to, and I'd be rather disappointed in you if you did. When we talk here > in the public forum we're talking to everybody who reads it, not just to the > person we're addressing or responding to. > > You may pay me if you want to, of course. > > But while we're on the subject of changing viewpoints, I think what you (and > Shel and Mafud and Christian etc.) are forgetting is that I was just like > you a year ago. I was saying all the same things, making all the same > arguments. > > Digital is coming to your lives as photographers, just as it came to mine > (whether we also stick with film or not). The only difference between any of > us is WHEN we jump in. I jumped a little later than a lot of people, and a > little earlier than you guys. It fit my needs to get into it when I did; > doesn't fit your needs now. > > But it will. > > Cheers, > > --Mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Virus Question
God, I hate Outlook. Piece of$^%$$&!!! http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99040&; You need the '&' in the link. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "John Mustarde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: Re: OT: Virus Question > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:11 -0700, you wrote: > > >Sometimes, not all the time, when I move the mouse > >pointer towards an icon it repls it across the screen, like magnets with > >same poles pointing towards one another. > > I saw a program once that caused the pointer to repel icons and other > strange behavior. The intention was to install it on your "best > friend's" computer as a prank. Got any "best friends" who have access > to your computer? > > -- > John Mustarde > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:43:10 -0500, you wrote: >I have started a search for a monopod to use I use a Bogen 3249B (black). It supports my FA* 600/4 and Wimberly head, so it should handle about anything you would put on it. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Virus Question
No... Thanks. :-) I went out and invested in the newest copy of Norton Antivirus. It found 11 instances of W32.Magistr.39921 (not a link... crappy Outlook Express) on my D:\ drive. After repairing 8, quarantining 3, and rebooting, the problem has gone away. Interestingly, Norton Antivirus is rated as best in class, while I find McAfee's website to be far more informative about specific viruses. I was able to search on W32 and received the following: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99040&; Thanks again, Tom C. - Original Message - From: "John Mustarde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: Re: OT: Virus Question > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:11 -0700, you wrote: > > >Sometimes, not all the time, when I move the mouse > >pointer towards an icon it repls it across the screen, like magnets with > >same poles pointing towards one another. > > I saw a program once that caused the pointer to repel icons and other > strange behavior. The intention was to install it on your "best > friend's" computer as a prank. Got any "best friends" who have access > to your computer? > > -- > John Mustarde > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: why EI-2000 is total CRAP, UNUSABLE for anything but strong daylight!
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:12:58 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > I have finally extensively tested functions of EI-2000 in a > friendly shop. Why is it total crap? Read more... I'm glad you got a hands-on test. Informative sites such as www.dpreview.com could have told you much of this information. I saw your enthusiasm for the EI-2000 in an earlier post, and hesitated to warn you away from it. Not that the EI-2000 is a bad digicam - there's just others with more functionality in the same price range. However, your requirement for a digicam P&S that will work as a reportage tool is a pretty stiff requirement. You'll have to look long and hard to find the exact model that will meet your needs, and even then there will be some trade-offs. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Virus Question
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:11 -0700, you wrote: >Sometimes, not all the time, when I move the mouse >pointer towards an icon it repls it across the screen, like magnets with >same poles pointing towards one another. I saw a program once that caused the pointer to repel icons and other strange behavior. The intention was to install it on your "best friend's" computer as a prank. Got any "best friends" who have access to your computer? -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leonoid Meteor pic
Cool! Do you have the technical specs on that photo? t On 11/22/01 10:50 AM, Brendan wrote: > Unfortunaltly most of the images were wased out due to > light polution but for those who missed the shower. > > > http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/a002.jpg > > ___ > Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
Hello David: I also have a Slik, the model is called Easypod, and its OK for my cameras and not too heavy lenses. But when I use one of the bodies, plus the F* 300 mm. 4.5 or FA* 80-200 mm. 2.8, the monopod I use is a Manfrotto 479-4B + 234 RC head. They are both really sturdy, much more than other monopods I've tried, and do their job really well. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First tripod
>I have a feeling I'll be getting a tripod this Christmas ;) > >This will be my first tripod, but that doesn't mean I'm after a >cheap one; I'm willing to spend a bit more to get one that will >last my whole photographic career (up to £100). I'm based in the >U.K., and am currently just looking at the Jessops catalog. >(BTW, Are Jessops' own brand tripods ok?) > >Any tips/advice/money greatly appreciated! I recommend the Slik U212 Deluxe. Its a great tripod, not too heavy but very stable. It costs less than $100. For more information, visit http://www.sunpak.com/15d.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Aaron wrote: > Most of the big catalog guys in Toronto have moved to digital. Even the > smaller studios are considering it. I'll bet anyone using the Contax 645 system is considering it now with the Contax digital on the horizon. Being able to add a digital body, even in "35mm" format, without having to buy any new lenses for it, could look quite attractive. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX Focusing Screens
Geoff Moes wrote: > > I've heard that in order to use LX screens in an MX you need to > have the meter recalibrated since the screens are brighter and the > meter reads from behind the screen. This could probably be > confirmed through experimentation. It also raises the question are > the LX screens consistent in there brightness or the recalibration > only be valid for certain screens? > Hi: I am going to quote myself. This is the message I sent to the list about this matter six months ago: "Yesterday I installed a SB-21 focusing screen, intended for use in the LX in my MX. The new focus screen is 1 and 1/2 stops brighter, then I have to compensate using the ASA scale of the exposure meter. That's the only change observed, besides the brighter image through the viewfinder, which makes focusing easier." -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:37:00 -0500, you wrote: > >You get what you pay for. Anyone who expects a printer that costs less >than $100 to last is nuts. I want to praise Epsons' service department, while slightly damning their printer. We bought an Epson Stylus Pro 5000 with Fiery RIP in late 1998. We were early adopters, so we paid about thirteen grand (it costs much less now). Luckily, we also bought the extended warranty. The extended warranty alone was almost a thousand dollars. After eighteen months, one or more of the print heads failed. We got a replacement unit the next day under warranty. Another year later, the RIP failed. Again, replaced under warranty. Then last week, two months out of the extended warranty, the print heads failed again. To their credit, Epson sent us another new unit even though the warranty had expired two months earlier. Epson cautioned that this was the last warranty replacement we would get. So we are on our third printer and second RIP, all in the space of three years and two months. I think the RIP failure was an unusual circumstance. But the print head failure on Epson printers should be a planned-for expense. I've put money in next year's budget for another print head replacement. My guess is their life is about 18 months or so. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Depreciation of assets
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > You mean for your 35, right? So, you have to factor in depreciation > into your camera and enlarger. You can't argue that one depreciates and > the other doesn't. Lets see, I bought a new Olympus OM-1 system, then sold it for half what I paid to buy a new Nikon system, which I eventually sold for somewhat less than half what I paid, to buy a new Pentax system. Total loss on the three transactions would amount to several thousands of dollars. Fortunately, I was able to write some of this off as a capital loss on my income tax, and was also able to depreciate the equipment while I owned it. This option is not available to most people, however, and the IRS (why is it called a service?) does check on what they think are bogus deductions. I bought a Pixur enlarger, and sold it for less than half what I paid to buy a Durst enlarger, which I then sold for a third of what I paid to by an Omega enlarger which I eventually sold for a quarter of what I paid to buy a 6x7 Beseler, which I didn't bother selling when I bought the 23C. Cost of depreciation? It hurts me to think about it. Photographic equipment upgrades have probably cost me a couple of years worth of salary, even with capital losses and depreciation added into the equation. My point? The entire depreciation arguement is a straw man. If you shoot a lot of pictures, and a presently available digital will satisfy your needs, not having the cost of film and processing and custom printing might well start paying for itself very quickly. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Re: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE
- Original Message - From: "Bob Walkden" < Subject: Re[2]: Digital cameras are FREE > Hi, > > > Those who travel widely can testify that even in the poorest countries, > > people have radios, CD players, film and digital cameras, ~AUTOMOBILES~, > > televisions-etc.. I think, Bob, what you have to realize, is that as far as the original poster is concerned, Harlem is a poor country. I saw a news report out of Afghanistan a few weeks ago. The people on the ground there didn't have a clue about why, all of a sudden, there were bombs being dropped on their heads. They had never heard of the WTC, and didn't have a clue about the significance of Sept. 11. Aww never mind. This is, after all, just the internet. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
In a message dated 11/22/01 10:40:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Most of the big catalog guys in Toronto have moved to digital. Even the > smaller studios are considering it. > > -Aaron > Yes. I expect that given the rapid advance in technology, meduim format will be all digital in the next 2-3 years. But are you saying even fashion is being shot with MF digital? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens Opinion Site updated
Thanks for putting all the work into your site - it's very useful. I didn't spend much time there (it's Thanksgiving, you know) but it looks fine and easy to use to me. Maris - Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: Lens Opinion Site updated Thanks for the comments about the Len's (and Stan's) web site which I posted in beta version on my kc.rr.com site a few days ago. I think I have now corrected those glitches that were pointed out to me, plus some others that weren't. I have moved the new version to the primary site, concentric.net. If you find any broken links or other major issues, please let me know. If there are formatting difficulties (but it still works ok) I would like to know just because I have a lot to learn about how the HTML code reacts on different systems with different browsers. But I won't spend much time mixing cosmetic stuff; now that I have the content up-to-date, I am working on a "new look" for the site. For those who haven't seen this before, what I am referring to is the site at . Starting with January (or June?) 1997, I have read the discussions on this list about Pentax lenses, extracted the portions that seemed cogent to me, and assembled those comments into the referenced website. I have further edited the comments so that there is a "brief" comments section and a "Long" comments section. At this point, if you print the LongComments as is, you'll have 150-200 pages of material (depending on the font size you choose). It is at about 350k on the server. If you print the brief comments, that is at about 40 pages. If one were to scroll down through the Long comments, it would take between 200 and 600 "page down" commands (depending on browser, screen and window size, etc). Which is a major reason why I am going into a redesign; it has grown way beyond the point where anybody would ever want to actually scroll the whole thing. Enjoy, let me know if here any substantive problems with content or operation, and I'll keep working on presentation format. ¡Salud, amor, dinero, y el tiempo para gozarlos! Stan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
November PUG - Dave Maki
Sorry I'm so late with these... First one: Dave Maki, "Where Flare Comes From" A striking image, imho. I like the narrow dof. Wonderful detail at the eyes and the hair-like feathers around his head; front of the beak out of focus. It really draws one's attention to his eyes. And yes, as you pointed out, it's neat the way the bright left and dark right background "matches" his opened and closed eyes. The flare, framing the right side of the head is, in this case very effective - lucky you left the hood off! The backlighting is very effective at bringing out those hairy feathers as well. It's probably more the camera angle than anything else that makes him look so pissed, but it works! I don't think I'd want to get on his bad side. I don't know what else I can say - I really liked it a lot. Thanks! regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1607
Frank, I will probably give the Ilfoerd LC29 a whirl sometime soon. The Ilfosol was bought for me, so I'm just trying to us it up. I've gotten ok results with it while developing Ilford films, such as Delta 400, but my recent tri-x results were poor. Of course, I think it had more to do with overdeveloping due to over agitation and perhaps too much time in the tank. My next try will either confirm or disconfirm my theory... Thx, geordie Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:26:42 + From: Francis Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: developing tri-x in ilfosol-s Dear Geordie, On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:36:29PM -0800, Geordie wrote: > I was wondering if anyone could tell me a developing time for tri-x 400 film > in Ilford Ilfosol-S developer? I used to use Ilfosol S for my Ilford film, but I wasn't really satisfied when using it with HP5. I tried LC29 (maybe called HC-D in the US) and have never looked back. If you have the curiosity, maybe you might want to try this developer too. In use it's just like Ilfosol S (except for dilutions and timings.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-5n and grip
Hi, > .Does the grip help make it FEEL like the older > bigger AF/MF cameras.I'v grown used to the grip > on the SF-1,nice and big. I have a battery grip on the MZ-5n. It adds a bit of weight and bit of height (around 1"/2.5cm) to the camera, which I find more comfortable with my big hands. Against that, there is a tendancy for the camera to tip forward when it's placed down on a flat surface. Plus, AA batteries are about a tenth of the price of CR2's ;-) -- Kristian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: MZ-5n and grip
I agree there Bill.I'm still planning to update my AF camera from the SF-1 to probably the 5-n.If the grip helps in the over all handling/stability/ feel i'll go that way. BTW camera seems quite nice from first impressions What flash does Pentax recommend with this camera?? When i buy i want the option of full auto flash and manual if need be.Right now all my bodies/ flashes are in the look,check guide ,click,hope. Dave Begin Original Message From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:41:21 -0600 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MZ-5n and grip I like the MZ-5 better with the battery pack. Think of something about the size of an autowinder on the bottom of the camera, but with nothing coming up the front, and you get the idea. I especially like being able to replace the batteries for 5 dollars, rather than 15. William Robb - End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
price is right
Saw this today http://cgi.ca.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1298500654 Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-6 Production volumes
"Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If speculation is right, COntax will only be able to produce them for a >couple of months anyway, and will then have to wait for Phillips to >start making the chip again. They may only ever make 1000!! Actually, they've probably made that many already in the past: I've heard they're used in medium format digital backs (several CCDs per back, of course). We could be seeing more soon if the Contax does reasonably well. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Teleconverter w. FA*80-200/2.8?
"Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >I have 3 Sigma converters, the 1.4x and 2x APO and a 'normal' 1.4x >The 1.4x will probably have the same problem, it is only slightly better in this >aspect! > >I just measured the clearing between the K-mount flange and TC front-lens for all: > >STD 1.4x 8.5 mm >APO 1.4x 1.9 mm >APO 2x 1.4 mm > >So while the 2x APO is worst, the 1.4x is not far behind. > >The STD 1.4x would not be a problem, but lacks optical quality compared to the others. Thank you! I have the standard Sigma 1.4x and it does fit, but I want to sell it and get a better one. Funny thing is, I just tried the Sigma 2x and it *does* fit! I must have been fumbling too much when I tried to attach it in the field the other day. BTW: The photo I took using the Pentax 1.7x that day came out quite nice. I just added it to my fall photo collection last night, along with 3 other new shots: http://www.robertstech.com/fall_2k1.htm -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Extended warranties for electronics are a waste of money (but good for the seller). If anything is going to go wrong with any modern electronic equipment, is likely to manifest itself long before the manufacturer's warranty expires. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > Thats why i did not take out an extended > warranty ,offered by Staples, on the $29.00 optical > logitech mouse i just bought.It breaks, its gone. > > Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The digital VS film discussion
Few things to keep in mind. I would assume that 90% of the digital camera owners are computer owners. While the % of homes in the USA with computers is around 50%, its definatley not that high in most other countries. I guess we'll have to see what the Chinese consumer desires over the next few years, as they'll be the major market force before long. Maybe technology will brng to market the film that is 10x faster and the process printing takes 15 minutes including a CDROM of your pics. Maybe you'll drop your film off at KODAK/FUJI kiosk and all the pics will be in your e-mailbox by the time you get home! Its is true in the business world, companies aren't using slide projects any more! Powerpoint and a computer projector have 99% of the market! But how many of us have a $1500-6000 projector at home to view our digital pictures any larger than our monitor? That could be the next product for consumer, the digital projectors in the under $1000 range. They do double duty, as they'll be hooked up to your home entertainment system, and replace TVs. Your DVD movie will be on your wall as big as the room/optic system allows! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Interpolation (Was Re: The true cost of "free" digital?)
Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Francis Tang wrote: >> >> Question unrelated to cost of digital: what's the purpose of >> interpolation in the scanner, versus interpolating/resampling on the >> computer? > >To offer a scanner with a higher maximum resolution. ;) > >Really, I don't know. I've always thought that images look >(comparatively) like crap using the scanner's interpolation. I agree with Aaron here. Besides, I prefer to scan at maximum true (optical) resolution and then experiment with interpolation in the image editig software where I can change my mind about it if I don't like how it looks. WHen you do it in the scanner you're stuck with the file that's output. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-5n and grip
- Original Message - From: "David Brooks" Subject: MZ-5n and grip > I was out on an errand for work yesterday and JUST > HAPPENED to pass by Henrys north store so i popped > in for a look at the MZ-5n kit they have on now. > First time i held one and felt small rieght off > the bat,but not to bad.Comes with the af35-80 zoom > which seemed ok,but after a bit my right hand felt > as if something else was needed. > I know a battery grip is available(girl showing me the > camera was not a sales person)but one was not available > to try.Does the grip help make it FEEL like the older > bigger AF/MF cameras.I'v grown used to the grip > on the SF-1,nice and big. I like the MZ-5 better with the battery pack. Think of something about the size of an autowinder on the bottom of the camera, but with nothing coming up the front, and you get the idea. I especially like being able to replace the batteries for 5 dollars, rather than 15. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-5n and grip
I was out on an errand for work yesterday and JUST HAPPENED to pass by Henrys north store so i popped in for a look at the MZ-5n kit they have on now. First time i held one and felt small rieght off the bat,but not to bad.Comes with the af35-80 zoom which seemed ok,but after a bit my right hand felt as if something else was needed. I know a battery grip is available(girl showing me the camera was not a sales person)but one was not available to try.Does the grip help make it FEEL like the older bigger AF/MF cameras.I'v grown used to the grip on the SF-1,nice and big. Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX Focusing Screens
Good point. The new screens are brighter than their older counterparts, although not by much - about 1/5 of a stop. And, of course, there may be differences between certain screens. That said, I'd of course check the meter for proper calibration in any case, as I'd do for all cameras and meters that i use. Thing is, the MX has a relatively poor readout, little more than a match needle system with diodes, that I may just choose to go meterless with it. The camera seems to lend itself to that type of shooting. Geoff Moes wrote: > > It also raises the question are > the LX screens consistent in there > brightness or the recalibration > only be valid for certain screens? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-FangledColor Film)
You lose, too. It refers to lens construction designed to bring three primary colours to focus together. It can be done with aspherics and/or special glasses but not with coatings. Actually coating has very little to do with spectral transmission but a lot to do with lens surface reflections. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Rob Brigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 22. marraskuuta 2001 12:54 Aihe: RE: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-FangledColor Film) >I think you are confusing this with 'Aspherical' - shape of lenses to >correct aberrations. > >The Sigma APO refers to a lens coating rather than lens design. > snip>> >> So, I'd bet that my 70-300 Sigma APO Macro, for example, uses solution >> A. >> >> -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-FangledColor Film)
You lose - it´s glass. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 22. marraskuuta 2001 12:37 Aihe: Re: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-FangledColor Film) >So, I'd bet that my 70-300 Sigma APO Macro, for example, uses solution >A. > >-Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Thats why i did not take out an extended warranty ,offered by Staples, on the $29.00 optical logitech mouse i just bought.It breaks, its gone. Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >You get what you pay for. Anyone who expects a printer that costs >less >than $100 to last is nuts. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Yes I've seen that commercial. It's a prime example of how dumb KODAK thinks consumers may be. If it's the one I'm thinking of, a Rome vacation, they could suggest getting out of the moving vehicle and standing still... but that wouldn't sell film. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "John Mustarde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > Digital will pay for itself depending on the initial price of the > hardware, the individual's film usage, the amount of prints made, and > the longevity of the digital hardware. And maybe other factors such as > picture-to-publication time and reduction in processing staff. > > Mike made a good comparison showing a return on investment of two > years; Tom responded with an equally valid lack of return on > investment comparison. > > It's really up to the individual to make a comparison based on their > own usage and needs. For me, a digital SLR does not give the desired > return on investment at this time. > > First, I'd have to switch to Nikon or Canon to even get a digital SLR. > That's not in itself a bad thing. However, I am very fond of Pentax > glass in general. I like the unusual old K-mount lenses. I like to > carry a PZ1p and an LX, and enjoy the differences between the two > cameras while sharing lenses. And, very important to me, I have some > favorite Pentax lenses which have no direct Nikon or Canon equivalent. > > Second, I don't shoot enough film. Maybe a hundred rolls per year, > maybe a little less. And I shoot pretty cheap film, with cheap > processing. Enlargements come from an inkjet, so film and digital > enlargements even out. So my film/processing savings are potentially > too low to justify a digicam that cost much over $1500. > > But owning some sort of digicam is a very good thing. My work 3.3 mp > digicam P&S with a fine, fast zoom lens is a fun thing to have, and > very useful. It won't pay for itself through film/processing savings > anytime soon, but it has nevertheless earned a place in my photo > toolkit. > > Of course, if I ran a bureau with six photogs slogging around taking > ten rolls each per day just to get a handful of shots for the daily > paper, we wouldn't have a scrap of film in sight. > > BTW, Kodak just bought Encad, who makes large-format inkjets. Kodak is > trying to transition to the real world of production imaging. And > Kodak's latest TV commercial shows a motion-blurred photo taken with a > P&S using ISO 200 film compared to a sharp photo taken with Kodak > Versatility film (ISO 400 Kodak Gold, I think). Kodak hints that their > Versatility film is better because pictures taken with it don't come > out blurry. > > No mention that ISO 400 film from any other manufacturer would have > allowed a faster shutter speed, resulting in the same reduced motion > blur compared to the longer shutter speed required by ISO 200 film. > > -- > John Mustarde > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
> I can't beleive how many single use camera we take in at the > lab. There is a demographic to them though. The teenagers, for > whom money still grows on a tree in their parents back yard use > them, for the most part. Once they get a little older and get a > job, they seem to gravitate towards better equipment. > William Robb You're absolutely correct. But look on the bright side, they keep us supplied with AA alkaline batteries :-) Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
- Original Message - From: "Mike Johnston" Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > > > What we're seeing right now is soaring sales in film cameras, APS and high > > dollar sophisticated P&Ss leading the way. > > I wonder why? > > You're gonna have to cite your sources here. What you say simply > isn't true. APS is in the doldrums and single-use cameras are sales volume > leaders--"high dollar sophisticaed P&Ss" have never been a statistically > significant sales category. See if you can get your hands on a PMA report. > They're very interesting. I suspect his source is someone in his family who just went out and bought an expensive APS point and shoot. You are correct, Mike, there are no real hard numbers from the industry to back up statements like the one you quote above. The real numbers paint a pretty bleak picture, actually. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Digital will pay for itself depending on the initial price of the hardware, the individual's film usage, the amount of prints made, and the longevity of the digital hardware. And maybe other factors such as picture-to-publication time and reduction in processing staff. Mike made a good comparison showing a return on investment of two years; Tom responded with an equally valid lack of return on investment comparison. It's really up to the individual to make a comparison based on their own usage and needs. For me, a digital SLR does not give the desired return on investment at this time. First, I'd have to switch to Nikon or Canon to even get a digital SLR. That's not in itself a bad thing. However, I am very fond of Pentax glass in general. I like the unusual old K-mount lenses. I like to carry a PZ1p and an LX, and enjoy the differences between the two cameras while sharing lenses. And, very important to me, I have some favorite Pentax lenses which have no direct Nikon or Canon equivalent. Second, I don't shoot enough film. Maybe a hundred rolls per year, maybe a little less. And I shoot pretty cheap film, with cheap processing. Enlargements come from an inkjet, so film and digital enlargements even out. So my film/processing savings are potentially too low to justify a digicam that cost much over $1500. But owning some sort of digicam is a very good thing. My work 3.3 mp digicam P&S with a fine, fast zoom lens is a fun thing to have, and very useful. It won't pay for itself through film/processing savings anytime soon, but it has nevertheless earned a place in my photo toolkit. Of course, if I ran a bureau with six photogs slogging around taking ten rolls each per day just to get a handful of shots for the daily paper, we wouldn't have a scrap of film in sight. BTW, Kodak just bought Encad, who makes large-format inkjets. Kodak is trying to transition to the real world of production imaging. And Kodak's latest TV commercial shows a motion-blurred photo taken with a P&S using ISO 200 film compared to a sharp photo taken with Kodak Versatility film (ISO 400 Kodak Gold, I think). Kodak hints that their Versatility film is better because pictures taken with it don't come out blurry. No mention that ISO 400 film from any other manufacturer would have allowed a faster shutter speed, resulting in the same reduced motion blur compared to the longer shutter speed required by ISO 200 film. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First tripod
Aaron is getting some nice wooden tripods and at the current Canadian dollar exhange they will fall around 100 pounds. --- Michael Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a feeling I'll be getting a tripod this > Christmas ;) > > This will be my first tripod, but that doesn't mean > I'm after a > cheap one; I'm willing to spend a bit more to get > one that will > last my whole photographic career (up to £100). I'm > based in the > U.K., and am currently just looking at the Jessops > catalog. > (BTW, Are Jessops' own brand tripods ok?) > > Any tips/advice/money greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > > -- > Michael Henry > Systems Support Administrator > Address: 4 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6JP > Tel: +44 (0)20 7802 fax: +44 (0)20 7802 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > do something lastminute.com > > > > -- > > This e-mail is intended for the named addressee > only. It may contain > confidential and/or privileged information. If you > have received this message > in error, please let us know and then delete this > message from your system. > You should not copy the message, use it for any > purpose or disclose its > contents to anyone. > > [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type > application/octet-stream which had a name of Michael > Henry.vcf] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > ___ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
off camera cord for 280T (was: 280T questions)
I have one of the TTL "Duo-Sync" cords for the older Pentax flashes. Used it with my 280T and pz1p... since I cannot repair my 280T, the first $20 (+ shipping) gets it. (large pause) Well, now I can't find it offhand... I know it's around here somewheres... :P If anyone's interested email me offlist, I'll find it tomorrow... Nick -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pentax-discuss-digest) >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1605 >Date: Thu, Nov 22, 2001, 12:41 AM > > btw > - what's the TTL off camera cord gizmo for a 280T/SuperProgram? > I've finally got myself one and should keep an eye out for that > cord gizmo - anyone got a spare laying about? > > Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
Mafud wrote: > What we're seeing right now is soaring sales in film cameras, APS and high > dollar sophisticated P&Ss leading the way. > I wonder why? You're gonna have to cite your sources here, Mafud. What you say simply isn't true. APS is in the doldrums and single-use cameras are sales volume leaders--"high dollar sophisticaed P&Ss" have never been a statistically significant sales category. See if you can get your hands on a PMA report. They're very interesting. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: APO Lenses (was Re: Layers, Sharp Focus, and New-FangledColor Film)
Lon wrote: > Maybe not. As I understand it, APO elements, like any other element, > may be a) plastic, b) molded glass, or c) ground glass, with cost > escalating from a (cheapest) to c (pricey). No, you're confusing apochromatic with aspherics, which are made in the types you ennumerate above. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital cameras are FREE
- Original Message - From: "aimcompute" Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE > I see a humor in it. It is true also. I'm not making fun of another's > plight. > > Let me tell ya, if the people in refugee camps are running around with > disposable cameras and getting film processed I'd be surprised. If they > are, we better stop sending cash. > > Disposables are probably just about the most expensive kind of camera one > can buy. While in Florida I was going to get one for the beach. Let's see, > I can buy 3 single-use 24 exposure cameras for around $25.00, or I can buy a > cheapo P&S for $20.00 and a 4-pack of film for $8.00. I've now spent > $28.00, only $3.00 more, I have an extra roll of film, and a camera I can > use over and over. Disposables are one of the biggest ripoffs I've seen in > a long time. I read a column a while back (I think it was one of Mikes 37th frames) about this very subject. It turns out that the most economical camera to use is the most expensive and well built one money can buy. The reson is that they outlast anything else, and over time actually become less expensive to use than replacing cheap cameras as they wear out. A frind of mine has a 1975 Mercedes Benz. It is the only car he has owned since he bought it new. Since 1975, I have bought and worn out or wrecked 6 cars and 8 motorcycles, most of which were bought new. I know I have spent a lot more on my vehicles than he has. You can buy quality once, or replace cheap junk over and over. Eventually, the junk will end up costing more, as junk has no residual value (as I discovered with my Grand Am). I can't beleive how many single use camera we take in at the lab. There is a demographic to them though. The teenagers, for whom money still grows on a tree in their parents back yard use them, for the most part. Once they get a little older and get a job, they seem to gravitate towards better equipment. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
