RE: *ist D Photos
Bucky and Gonz, The pixels turned out to be 'hot' rather than 'dead'. I ran a test through a little program called 'Dead Pixel Test' (freely available on the web). An image is taken with lens and viewfinder caps on and then run through the program. When I first ran an image, it showed 132 hot pixels, 0 dead. Then, I turned on 'noise reduction' in the custom functions menu, and ran another image. The number of 'hot' pixels dropped to 2. It would appear that the 'hot' pixels were noise, and as such the *ist D's noise reduction function should take care of most of the 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos It appears that you guys are correct. There does seem to be 3-4 pixels that are visibly 'buggered'. I have contacted the vendor, but I don't hold much hope for a fix. I bought this camera in the USA, and I am in Australia. Warranties aren't usually international unfortunately. I will contact the Australian distributor as well, and see what they can do. In the mean time, it's not really a problem anyway. It's nothing that I can't fix with a bit of judicious cloning in PS. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Bucky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos No, he's right. There are at least three buggered pixels that show up in the same place in the frame regardless of orientation. You should check it out. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12-Mar-04 22:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Hi Gonz, The tandem dragon fly's was a snap shot as they flew past me about 6 feet away. Amazingly, the FA 100mm macro fastened onto them quick enough to get that shot. It's not 100% sharp, but not bad for a snap. As for the stuck pixels, I think it's more a case of the water beneath the dragon fly's creating catch lights or hot spots Gonz. There is nothing wrong with the sensor, as far as I can tell. Thanks anyway for the compliments though. Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos I'm sorry, in my haste to warn you about the stuck pixels, I forgot to say that the pics are really nice. I especially like the shot of the tandem-flys, how did you manage to get that shot!!! rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web% 20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
AW: daddy-D
Another way would be (or have been) to incorporate the current 'green button' function into the shutter release, IOW to stop-down-and-meter in the instance before the shutter is released. This would add a small delay between pressing the shutter release and the actual shutter operation but would give automatic (stop down) metering. Sven -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Marz 2004 21:17 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: daddy-D John had a complicated method for getting a *istD successor to correctly operate K and M lenses with camera-aperture-control. Nikon has a similar scheme in the D2h to allow matrix metering and such with older CPU-less lenses, which is odd since the FA of 1983 could do it without the manual input of information. Wouldn't it be simpler to build a daddy-D with an aperture-tracking-tab so that it could meter correctly at full aperture, but NOT attempt to overcome the difference in aperture-lever travel between K/M and A/F/FA lens lines. It would let you use your K and M lenses in aperture-priority and manual just like you always did, and more modern lenses with all the newfangled modes. Pentax could top this off by re-issuing some of the older lenses in FA variants for people who just have to have P mode with their 18/3.5. If the camera knows when it's got an A or better lens mounted due to electronic communication, it could refuse to go into advanced exposure modes unless it found a modern lens attached--just give a snippy error message. DJE
*istD Remote assistant soon...
on Japanese site: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2004/200412.html Alta Vista translates that it will be available as a free download. March 18 for Windows. Mid April for Mac.
paw: Cave Stream
Just a boring landscape, but it's on time this week :) Sorry if the colours look a little off... I scanned with the wrong film profile and tried correcting it by eye. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=13-Mar-2004 Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Refconverter M
The postman yesterday brought a nice Refconverter M to my door. A cute little thing... The manual says that once the diopter is set to match your eyes, the setting does not need to be altered when magnification is switched between 1x and 2x. This I think is either a mistake in the manual or the one I have is not as mint as it looks... I have to turn the diopter A LOT to get a sharp picture in both settings. Does anybody use this accessory and can confirm? Thanks, Sven
FF Forgot this one
For Free! The shell of a 645 135/4 macro. No optics. Just all the rear mechanics and outer focusing helicoid. Lots of nice small screws. Aperture bearing. And, what someone was asking for (last year!), a small pulling spring! REAR LENS CAP! Just a couple bucks for shipping it. Collin
Re: OT - Spain suffers
One of the most evil men in history, Stalin, said that the death of one person is a tragedy, however the death of thousands is a statistic (I'm paraphrasing here). When we're forced to deal with such irrational events as 200 dead in the recent attack in Spain, it's all to easy to forget that these people, who were innocently going about their daily routine, leave behind grieving spouses and partners, children who will never again know that parent, parents who will take the pain of a predeceased child to their grave. Scores of living victims will deal with the horrors of lingering injuries, both physical and emotional, for the balance of their lives. I guess that we ~have~ to deal with such large numbers of victims as abstractions, in order to continue in our day to day lives. But, we can't think that way, or it will keep happening over and over again. We have to understand the human cost of these horrific events if they're ever to be stopped. My thoughts go out to the victims (both deceased and alive) and their families. My thoughts go to the country of Spain. My thoughts go to humanity, who continues to kill members of its own species for the most frivolous of reasons. -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Spain suffers Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:30:42 +0200 Hi! C I remember feeling a deep sympathy with America over 911. I would just C like to register a similar sympathy here over the tragic events here in C Europe. Although not on the same scale as the New York travesty, the C confusion and sorrow is no less powerful. C I know our Spanish friends are shocked and concerned at the moment, and C surely our hearts go out to them at this time. Cotty, at al, let me join you in expressing my deep sympathy to the people of Madrid who lost their close ones. Let it be clear - even a death of one person from such an event like that in Madrid is most sorrowful. No one deserves to die or be injured from the terrorist attack. No one! Boris - from the country that is bleeding since it has been founded. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Gulls photos
Hi! Chris, according to your theory grin, I am starting on the second level then. Attila, wonderful birds. Second one is excellent. You got seeds is very, well, human-like. Cruising seems like a winner. Have you enlarged any of them? Boris
RE: OT: Cyclists only.
Hey, he's got a Canajan flag, too!! Kewl! I should get on of those things, Malcom (the tall bike, not a flag). What it would lack in real world (or any-world) stability, would be made up by the fact that I could look truck drivers in the eye, just before they run me into the curb. vbg Thanks for a badly needed laugh. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Cyclists only. Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:20:33 - http://www.atomiczombie.com/ _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: *ist D Photos
- Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning Subject: RE: *ist D Photos It would appear that the 'hot' pixels were noise, and as such the *ist D's noise reduction function should take care of most of the 'hot' pixels. The istD noise reduction isn't used for shutter speeds shorter than 1/4 second or therabouts. You should probably take some of that money you saved buying gray market and invest in getting the defective chip replaced. William Robb
Re: Abusing Google again!
french military is kinda funny too, the first hit is Did you mean: french military defeats. HAR!!! WW - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:18 PM Subject: Abusing Google again! type the phrase miserable failure into Google
Re: Re[2]: those tests
- Original Message - From: Boros Attila Subject: Re[2]: those tests I agree with you, doing the same. Right now I can't afford a DSLR which would replace my MZ-6. There is nothing wrong with getting prints the old-fashioned way, I even like the variety of films I can find, so I can say I like film. What I don't like are the labs... I am still trying to find a decent lab in a city with 25 habitants, that is a shame. Good luck. The days of quality labs ended when people started putting price ahead of quality in a big way, and made photo labs into a retail store clerk endeavor. William Robb
Re: semi-OT: framing
- Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: semi-OT: framing Does anyone else here do their own framing? I'm after some tips regarding the glass. I was able to cut the large sheets (1220x920mm) to a more reasonable size, but cutting it to fit the frame was disastrous (it took me three tries). I can't be bothered with cutting my own glass. I am quite willing to pay someone else to do this and take the risk of breakage. Just order what you need, and pay what will probably be a very reasonable cutting fee. The other problem I'm having is cleaning the glass prior to final assembly of the frame. Is there a glass cleaning product available which is suitable for archival use, or should I just use water? Dust is also a major problem: I'm planning to try using canned air to help here as I don't have a compressor. Last time I used a small blower-brush and it drove me nuts. Windex seems to work well as a glass cleaner. I use an anti static brush (Kinetronics?) after cleaning the glass to remove stray bits of paper towel and dust. William Robb
Re: So called pixel problems
- Original Message - From: Chris Subject: So called pixel problems Hi Shaun,I would have thought you might just have a slightly soiled sensor looking at the flower shot and the others.If after printing the shots you see the spots a light swab clean should do the trick.I have had dust problems with a new D100,*istD,a New Sigma SD10 and they have a dust filter.It is possible and quite common to get dust from the factory.I would check out this avenue as it will more than likely occur especially in the bush if you don't take care when changing lenses.Zoom lenses can suckit in also. Chris, I definitely saw 4 hot spots, probably caused by some hot clusters. I fortunately don't have any on my ist D, but my Canon G1 has a few hotties, so I am quite familiar with them. Dust on the sensor will come out as dark spots, not the bright red or green blooming spots that showed in the samples. William Robb
Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies
Except for the 917K (in Gulf Mirage livery), I agree with you, Mike. Funny, but the CanAm Turbo 917 was one of the ugliest cars ever! Especially the last version (can't remember the exact model designation), in Sunoco colours, that Mark Donahue drove in CanAm, and in which he set the record for the fastest speed ever sustained on a closed oval. That was one fugly (I like that, btw g) vehicle. As are/were most Porsches that I've seen. Can they ever be forgiven for the 914? But, there was something about the 917K (not the long-tailed version with the tailfins, the 917L - that was ugly, too) that really turns my crank. Just one of those things, I guess. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:12:09 + Hi, frank theriault wrote: I keep hearing that Grand Prix is the greatest racing movie ever made. Maybe it is, but I liked Lemans, with Steve McQueen, better. Mind you, that could be because I only ever saw Grand Prix on TV, but I saw Lemans at the theatre. Not only that, but I thought that the Gulf Mirage Porsche 917K was (and still is) the most beautiful racing car ever built. Hmmm. Not sure I've _ever_ seen a beautiful Porsche. To me they are all brutal, fugly (not to mention stolen) designs. m _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
My PAW
I saw this Brittish guy playing in the street on this cold winters day. http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p3264919.html Got him with my SONY F717 (5MP) at 200ASA 1/200 sec. F. 5.0. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
OT: BW or Colour - Maybe a WOW?
Hi, Some of you may recall that I posted this to mixed reviews (being charitable g) several weeks or a month ago: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2111661 Any thoughts on seeing it in bw? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2129161 You like better? Worser? Both equally mediocre? g I'm still not sure about this image, but there's something about it that I feel I can say if it's reworked the right way. Maybe with a WOW? Thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo
Kevin, Here's my recovery attempt. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2203546size=md If you'd like the full sized image just let me know. -- Fred Widall, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall --
RE: OT: Cyclists only.
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, frank theriault wrote: I should get on of those things, Malcom (the tall bike, not a flag). What it would lack in real world (or any-world) stability, would be made up by the fact that I could look truck drivers in the eye, just before they run me into the curb. vbg If anything, I would think that a tall bike like that would be *more* stable than a low one. If there's a certain angle of inclination at which a bike will begin to tip, then the effort needed to move the bike to that angle increases as the height increases. Tilting the bike a few inches away from the vertical on the ground is likely equivalent to tilting it several feet away from the vertical when the seat is 12' up in the air. This doesn't sound intuitive to me, so there may be some other factors involved that seriously negate it. Though he did say on his site that it was so easy to ride he let neighbourhood people take it for a spin. chris
Re: semi-OT: framing
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Bob W wrote: Take care with canned air. If you use it wrong you can spray propellant crap all over and it can be difficult to get it off. Canned air isn't *all* bad, though. Turn the cannister upside down, spray the propellant on paper, and it makes the paper transparent. Blow on it a bit, and it evaporates, leaving the paper completely dry again. Note that I don't advocate using this for evil. :) chris
RE: *ist D Photos
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Bucky and Gonz, The pixels turned out to be 'hot' rather than 'dead'. I ran a test through a little program called 'Dead Pixel Test' (freely available on the web). An image is taken with lens and viewfinder caps on and then run through the program. When I first ran an image, it showed 132 hot pixels, 0 dead. Then, I turned on 'noise reduction' in the custom functions menu, and ran another image. The number of 'hot' pixels dropped to 2. It would appear that the 'hot' pixels were noise, and as such the *ist D's noise reduction function should take care of most of the 'hot' pixels. It sounds like you ran the test with the camera at a long exposure setting. You should run it at all exposure settings. My first *ist D had a number of hot pixels. I was noticing them in exposures of 1/125 and faster. I didn't know about the hot pixel test, so I just shot frames with a black body cap on from 1/4000 down to 4. The hot pixels showed up even at 1/4000. I bought locally, so I just returned the camera to my retailer and picked up a different one. They sent the camera back to Pentax. Being able to do this was well worth the $100 extra that I paid by buying locally. alex
RE: *ist D Photos
Thanks William, but it really does appear to be working fine. I can live with 2 'hot' pixels out of 6.3 million. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 9:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos - Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning Subject: RE: *ist D Photos It would appear that the 'hot' pixels were noise, and as such the *ist D's noise reduction function should take care of most of the 'hot' pixels. The istD noise reduction isn't used for shutter speeds shorter than 1/4 second or therabouts. You should probably take some of that money you saved buying gray market and invest in getting the defective chip replaced. William Robb
RE: *ist D Photos
Thanks Alex, I'll try the extended test(s) tomorrow and see how it fairs. Cheers Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Bucky and Gonz, The pixels turned out to be 'hot' rather than 'dead'. I ran a test through a little program called 'Dead Pixel Test' (freely available on the web). An image is taken with lens and viewfinder caps on and then run through the program. When I first ran an image, it showed 132 hot pixels, 0 dead. Then, I turned on 'noise reduction' in the custom functions menu, and ran another image. The number of 'hot' pixels dropped to 2. It would appear that the 'hot' pixels were noise, and as such the *ist D's noise reduction function should take care of most of the 'hot' pixels. It sounds like you ran the test with the camera at a long exposure setting. You should run it at all exposure settings. My first *ist D had a number of hot pixels. I was noticing them in exposures of 1/125 and faster. I didn't know about the hot pixel test, so I just shot frames with a black body cap on from 1/4000 down to 4. The hot pixels showed up even at 1/4000. I bought locally, so I just returned the camera to my retailer and picked up a different one. They sent the camera back to Pentax. Being able to do this was well worth the $100 extra that I paid by buying locally. alex
AW: Refconverter M
Yes manual is wrong or yes refconverter is defective?? Thank you anyway - now I at least know it is either of those two possibilities ;-) Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Hal Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 13. März 2004 14:22 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Refconverter M Yes! - Original Message - From: keller.schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 2:29 AM Subject: Refconverter M The postman yesterday brought a nice Refconverter M to my door. A cute little thing... The manual says that once the diopter is set to match your eyes, the setting does not need to be altered when magnification is switched between 1x and 2x. This I think is either a mistake in the manual or the one I have is not as mint as it looks... I have to turn the diopter A LOT to get a sharp picture in both settings. Does anybody use this accessory and can confirm? Thanks, Sven
Surf's up...
This is shocking until you examine further... http://www.snopes.com/photos/surfer.asp http://www.surfshooter.com/DolphinInfo.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: paw: Cave Stream
Actually it's nicely composed, not particularly boring. I like it. David Mann wrote: Just a boring landscape, but it's on time this week :) Sorry if the colours look a little off... I scanned with the wrong film profile and tried correcting it by eye. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=13-Mar-2004 Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Abusing Google again!
You want an explanation as to why that happens read this: http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/3296101 frank theriault wrote: I get Michael Moore. Followed closely by G Dubya. Now there's irony if I've ever seen it! vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Abusing Google again! Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:18:50 -0500 type the phrase miserable failure into Google _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
DA 16-45 samples, by Dominique Schreckling
I found this message at Dpreview, and followed the links to a set of very nice travelog/vacation photos taken with Pentax gear by Dominique Schreckling. Many with shot the *istD and 16-45. Have a look, if you like pics of far away lands and want to see some DA 16-45 samples. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028message=7976163 direct links: Mainly 18-35 photos: http://www.pbase.com/tcom/thassos Mainly 16-45 photos: http://www.pbase.com/tcom/egypt http://www.pbase.com/tcom/srilanka If you have Photoshop CS or the trial version, open http://www.pbase.com/image/26689625 or something similar and apply the Shadow/Highlight adjustment. It makes a great improvement. The Shadow/Highlight adjustment alone may be reason enough for me to pay the $169 upgrade fee. I am beginning to believe the *istD could use a custom curve to boost the midtones as a default setting. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies
frank theriault wrote: But, there was something about the 917K (not the long-tailed version with the tailfins, the 917L - that was ugly, too) that really turns my crank. Just one of those things, I guess. I _might_ have agreed with you, except I think that peculiar lightblue/orange livery brings out the brutality of the design much more than more orthodox colours and striping. Not saying I don't like the cars, BTW, just that I consider them to be not beautiful. mike
Ok,this is my PAW:Flight
Hi all. This is the one i intended to submitt,and thanks for all the kind words on the Reining picture. It was taken at the farm we have our horses at(as are 80% of my shots.lol) with the D1 last fall.Have a series of them but it was hard to keep the AF on the small moving targets.Need practice.:-) I needed to take some yellow out of the water but auto levels seemed to much,so i just tweaked the midtones in levels.Comments appreciated as always. Dave http://www.caughtinmotion.com/PAW/flight.jpg
Re: OT: BW or Colour - Maybe a WOW?
Hi Frank. The colour one looks plain to me,nothing really snaps out.However the BW one makes it look a little more like a picture(dont ask me to explain that last comment,i'm not sure what i mean.lol)Seeing as how the shadows are not really dark black,a little more detail in that area might help. Dave Hi, Some of you may recall that I posted this to mixed reviews (being charitable g) several weeks or a month ago: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2111661 Any thoughts on seeing it in bw? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2129161 You like better? Worser? Both equally mediocre? g I'm still not sure about this image, but there's something about it that I feel I can say if it's reworked the right way. Maybe with a WOW? Thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en- capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Tagline s
Re: OT - Spain suffers
My family and I are deeply saddened by the events in Spain. To Carlos and our other PDML family members from Spain, please know our thoughts and prayers, our sympathy and grief, are with you. It is so terrible, so destructive, so inhuman, and so incomprehensible. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: oi
Remember, we've seen your feet . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/04 10:45PM -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You got it, tom. Anything else I can do to help? I could use a foot massage. tv
Re: OT - Spain suffers
There was an unfortunate feeling of deja vu when I saw this on the news. All politics aside, I think we all have to wonder how this loss of life makes sense to anyone. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SP1000 half-frame
Both those statements were true. They were fun, I used to carry a Demi EE1.7 as a sort of a notebook camera. Loaded with Ilford's Autowinder film it had 144 shots available. It rode along in a pouch on my belt sort of like digitals do today. And 1/2 frame (actually it is single frame, normal 35mm still cameras are double frame) was incrediably popular in Japan almost every camera maker made several but many did not export them. I think they started to die out when they began making the small double frame rangefinder cameras. I recall that they were pretty much passe by the end of the 70's -- Jim Apilado wrote: Half-frame was fun. I recall when the small Olympus Pen came out. It was a fun camera to carry in my coat pocket for those quick grab shots - and you could get a lot of them. Half-frame was the craze in Japan in the Sixties.\ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Slightly OT: In the beginning...
An excellent tale by another man on the news beat. I see he was once affiliated with your parent organization. If I got the lineage right, anyhow. Yeah, small wonder he's plagued with back problems! Good read, Cotty! keith Cotty wrote: In the beginning, God made the photographer. God saw the photographer and said he was good. The photographer saw God and said, Turn your head so it is back-lighted. God said, But I am God! The photographer said, I don't care who you are. Front lighting is no good. And God turned his head. from American Cinematographer, July 1993. Found on this site: www.b-roll.net where I came across a slice-of-life by a BBC colleague. He illustrates well the life I lead: http://www.b-roll.net/stories/bbc.html Cheers, Cotty
Re: OT - Test; am I bounced yet?
There was a notice in the Los Angeles Times Business section about Hotmail finally being back online. I didn't even know it was down! Microsoft said it had found the cause and hoped full service would be restored today. No hint of what the cause really was, however... keith frank theriault wrote: Thanks, Peter, I didn't realize that. I know with my last e-mail provider, they'd bounce if I got full. Which only happened once, when I got spammed with about 23,000 e-mails. Nice to know that hotmail won't bounce things. Plus, it does explain why I'm seeing so many replies this morning, with no initial post. OTOH, that happens from time to time with my hotmail - having e-mails go missing (ie: never received). It is a microsoft product, after all... g I guess I can't complain, for the price I'm paying. vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Test; am I bounced yet? Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:11:10 -0500 Frank, In my experience Hotmail doesn't bounce mail. If your mailbox fills up it just eats it and no one's the wiser. It is a microsoft product after all. frank theriault wrote: Hotmail's been down all day (at least around these parts). But, that's not why I'm sending this. Someone sent me an e-mail with a 1 meg attachment, which filled my inbox (which I couldn't clear out, as Hotmail's been down). So, I've probably been bouncing e-mails all day, so I just want to check to see if I'm unsubbed yet... -knarf The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
OT: Spain suffers
To Carlos and our other Spanish pdml readers, we send you our sympathy and condolences. None of these people deserved to have their lives cut short by the whim of some zealots. Frank said it well in a previous post. Regards, Bob S. Frank writes: When we're forced to deal with such irrational events as 200 dead in the recent attack in Spain, it's all to easy to forget that these people, who were innocently going about their daily routine, leave behind grieving spouses and partners, children who will never again know that parent, parents who will take the pain of a predeceased child to their grave. Scores of living victims will deal with the horrors of lingering injuries, both physical and emotional, for the balance of their lives. snip My thoughts go out to the victims (both deceased and alive) and their families. My thoughts go to the country of Spain. My thoughts go to humanity, who continues to kill members of its own species for the most frivolous of reasons.
PAW:Colorful Keys
Just a little goofing around with hand coloring a BW print. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
PAW: Snowdrop
My Snowdrops are trying to bloom, but it's quite cold today. Here's a shot with the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro on *ist-D. It's at 1:2. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2203947 I placed a detail crop here. The reflection in the drop of water is kind of cool. The *ist-D's sharpness and detail are quite good I think for a handheld macro shot. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2203954 Both are f8 @ 1/90. I'll shoot these off a mini tripod when the blossoms open. It needs f22.
RE: Cave Stream
I rather enjoy this shot. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 1:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: paw: Cave Stream Just a boring landscape, but it's on time this week :) Sorry if the colours look a little off... I scanned with the wrong film profile and tried correcting it by eye. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=13-Mar-2004 Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: OT: Cyclists only.
Heck, Frank, get yourself an ordiary (Penny-Farthing) and watch the wrecks as they all forget they are driving in traffic and stare at you. (grin) -- frank theriault wrote: Hey, he's got a Canajan flag, too!! Kewl! I should get on of those things, Malcom (the tall bike, not a flag). What it would lack in real world (or any-world) stability, would be made up by the fact that I could look truck drivers in the eye, just before they run me into the curb. vbg Thanks for a badly needed laugh. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Cyclists only. Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:20:33 - http://www.atomiczombie.com/ _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Refconverter M
Sven, Bad news for you. The manual is correct, your converter has a problem. I just double checked. If you mount the converter and bring the ground glass into focus, it stays in focus as you switch from 1X to 2X. This is a very handy feature as you use it with macro work. You can use the 2X to check detail and then switch back to 1X for the full frame. Sorry, Bob S. Sven writes: The postman yesterday brought a nice Refconverter M to my door. A cute little thing... The manual says that once the diopter is set to match your eyes, the setting does not need to be altered when magnification is switched between 1x and 2x. This I think is either a mistake in the manual or the one I have is not as mint as it looks... I have to turn the diopter A LOT to get a sharp picture in both settings. Does anybody use this accessory and can confirm?
Re: Surf's up...
And that's just _one_ of the things making living here an enjoyable experience! For some years I lived high above a stretch of beach in Malibu, and saw dolphins regularly. Many beach birds, too, as you might imagine. . . g What the heck WAS that lens Kurt Jones was using?! keith whaley Cotty wrote: This is shocking until you examine further... http://www.snopes.com/photos/surfer.asp http://www.surfshooter.com/DolphinInfo.html Cheers, Cotty
PUG is down
http://www.pug.komkon.org/ Been down all afternoon.
RE: OT: BW or Colour - Maybe a WOW?
B W works much better here I think. The bus is less distracting in this mode. You guys were right before about it needing to be there to tell the story, but if it could be toned down some. Maybe lighten the picture a bit to get better shadow detail and burn the bus. My focus is on what I can't see, which is the little girls face. I didn't blow it up, but the image gives me a desire to see the emotion on the little girls face if that detail exists. Perhaps it has it's own value in my imagination being stirred to wonder. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: BW or Colour - Maybe a WOW? Hi Frank. The colour one looks plain to me,nothing really snaps out.However the BW one makes it look a little more like a picture(dont ask me to explain that last comment,i'm not sure what i mean.lol)Seeing as how the shadows are not really dark black,a little more detail in that area might help. Dave Hi, Some of you may recall that I posted this to mixed reviews (being charitable g) several weeks or a month ago: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2111661 Any thoughts on seeing it in bw? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2129161 You like better? Worser? Both equally mediocre? g I'm still not sure about this image, but there's something about it that I feel I can say if it's reworked the right way. Maybe with a WOW? Thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en- capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MS NIS_Tagline s
Re: FS: user KX, user ME, nice K50/1.4, SMC-T 35/3.5, adapter
The M42 adapter is sold. I wrote the post from work, and forgot to add that the KX has 2 translucent smudges at the bottom of the return mirror. It doesn't affect function as far as I am concerned, but it might be of concern to some. Sorry for not mentioning it earlier. Aaron
Re: Refconverter M
Refconverter is defective. - Original Message - From: keller.schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: AW: Refconverter M Yes manual is wrong or yes refconverter is defective?? Thank you anyway - now I at least know it is either of those two possibilities ;-) Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Hal Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 13. März 2004 14:22 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Refconverter M Yes! - Original Message - From: keller.schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 2:29 AM Subject: Refconverter M The postman yesterday brought a nice Refconverter M to my door. A cute little thing... The manual says that once the diopter is set to match your eyes, the setting does not need to be altered when magnification is switched between 1x and 2x. This I think is either a mistake in the manual or the one I have is not as mint as it looks... I have to turn the diopter A LOT to get a sharp picture in both settings. Does anybody use this accessory and can confirm? Thanks, Sven
PAW - Snow Crocus
Tiny flowers at the front door this morning... http://members.aol.com/dontmailbob/PAW2.jpg Resized, and cropped top/bottom from a Sony S85 1meg jpg Regards, Bob S.
Re: Epson 2200, PS CS, *ist-D, Mac OSX 10.3.2
IMHO, a great choice, I doubt you'll be dissatisfied (at least until you decide you gotta have larger print capability). Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Epson 2200, PS CS, *ist-D, Mac OSX 10.3.2 I decided to go for the Epson 2200 printer. My 1200 was obviously on its last legs. The performance is remarkable. I can match my monitor exactly. And the 2880 dpi prints are far better than the 1440 prints my 1200 was turning out. The shadow detail is greatly improved, the color gradations are far superior. Great printer. Paul
RE: OT: Cyclists only.
Graywolf wrote: Heck, Frank, get yourself an ordiary (Penny-Farthing) and watch the wrecks as they all forget they are driving in traffic and stare at you. (grin) Stopping and starting them is the problem. I had one success out of three attempts at riding one twenty plus years ago (when I was the member of a cycling club). I became well acquainted with tarmac :-( Very interesting comments to this link and I didn't know Aric rode a recumbent cycle. I have yet to try one of those! I have ridden a racing trike - that is an experience (!) and a tandem and I owned a track bike for a while which I loved, but gave me hard work, as I live around steep hills. I'm preparing for this years Spring cleaning and maintenance of my own cycle and came across the link, which I hoped a few of you might like. I find photography and cycling go particularly well together. Some of you do too :-) Malcolm - who likes the SkyCycle too.
Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
Changing subject lines
Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Shel, I noticed this on a recent post of mine. When I hit reply the WOW: at the beginning disappeared. I believe it is because the subject became WOW: Outlook stripped it out for me, I guess, with the same algorithm that keeps subject lines from becoming something like RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: RE: FW: RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I wonder if putting WOW - instead wold work better. I'll send a test to make sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:27 PM To: PDML Subject: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
WOW - Not really, just a test
I'll reply to this and see if the WOW gets stripped.
RE: WOW - Not really, just a test
OK. This seems to work better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Thornsberry Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:32 PM To: PDML Subject: WOW - Not really, just a test I'll reply to this and see if the WOW gets stripped.
Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Interesting ... never though about that. Mabe on one's doing it then and some mail programs just make their own decisions for us. ;-)) Kevin Thornsberry wrote: Shel, I noticed this on a recent post of mine. When I hit reply the WOW: at the beginning disappeared. I believe it is because the subject became WOW: Outlook stripped it out for me, I guess, with the same algorithm that keeps subject lines from becoming something like RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: RE: FW: RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I wonder if putting WOW - instead wold work better. I'll send a test to make sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:27 PM To: PDML Subject: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Hi, Saturday, March 13, 2004, 9:50:36 PM, Shel wrote: Interesting ... never though about that. Mabe on one's doing it then and some mail programs just make their own decisions for us. ;-)) if people would put it at the end of the subject, in lower case, then it wouldn't happen. It would still be visible to filters, it would make the line readable for humans, and it wouldn't piss me off so much that I never open any of the paw or wow emails. Example: This is a legible subject line (paw) -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Damaged Wedding Photo
Here's my attempt: http://home.online.no/~jooksne/wow/wow3.html Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:21 AM Subject: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo WOWers, Here's a bit of a challenge. I found a framed picture from when my parents got married. Somehow portions of the picture had stuck to the glass. Before trying to remove the picture I decided to scan it glass and all. Here's the result. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/81452/1/2829205 In addition to the parts that are stuck, you can see the picture has faded due to the dark border where no light had hit the picture. I did my best with it a couple of years ago. With what some of you have accomplished with the WOW I thought I'd throw it out there for you to try. In a day or so I'll post the submissions as well as what I was able to do. Thanks. Kevin
Re: PUG is down
To all of you who haven't bookmarked the AutoPug, here's the direct link. http://www.oksne.net/autopug/pugform.asp Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: zoomshot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 6:40 PM Subject: PUG is down http://www.pug.komkon.org/ Been down all afternoon.
Re: OT: Spain suffers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: To Carlos and our other Spanish pdml readers, we send you our sympathy and condolences. None of these people deserved to have their lives cut short by the whim of some zealots. Frank said it well in a previous post. Regards, Bob S. Thanks again to all who have expressed their solidarity and condolences to the people of Spain. I am not from Madrid, but more than 11.000.000 Spaniards took the streets all over the country yesterday to show our unity against terrorism. Thanks for your thoughts for the families and the injured (more than 1.400), they are the ones who need all the possible support from everybody, now and in future. I can't say how grateful I am. Your simpathy is enormously appreciated, much more when we see that our government is concealing information about who are the responsible for the bombings and are trying to divert attention towards ETA (who are as despisable as the ones who performed the attacks, but this time they are not behind this carnage), because we have an election tomorrow and those liars want to keep power at all costs. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
RE: *ist D Photos
Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos Cool photos, especially the dragonflies in flight. I was wondering how the *ist-D would do with bugs - looks great! (Mine arrived with the first snow, so no chance to test it on insects yet). - MCC At 12:41 PM 3/13/2004 +0800, you wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web%20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: ye olde film v D debate
On 11 Mar 2004 at 9:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really only one jump now to the highest equals 35mm film numbers I've seen, and there is no particular reason to stop there. Sure, there are supposed to be physical limits of the technology, but they said that about computers, too, and they just keep getting faster. I believe that 14MP 35mm full frame image sensors when mature, will deliver quality that rivals all but the best films used under optimal taking conditions. After which point there isn't much point forging to higher pixel densities. Also the constraints on imaging technology are somewhat different and well defined to those of non-opto-sensitive VLSI development (such as RAM and CPUs). The fact that opto devices for photo-imaging need to remain sufficiently sensitive to the visible light spectrum to be at all useful limits their density development. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: ye olde film v D debate
Rob Studdert wrote: I believe that 14MP 35mm full frame image sensors when mature, will deliver quality that rivals all but the best films used under optimal taking conditions. After which point there isn't much point forging to higher pixel densities. and why exactly there isn't much point? is it because 35mm quality is all anyone would ever need? like 640K of RAM? :) mishka
Re: What gear is on your lust list ?
Hi Tanya, I was thinking in US Dollars, sorry :( But here in Estonia the cheapest DVD burners go for 1300EEK (137AUD). Sure, those are DVD+R(W) writers. Quite good DVD+-R(W) is about 2000 EEK (210AUD). Check for NEC ND-2500, for example. But with used Pentax lenses the life is not so fun in here... New one costs ~1000AUD in here. I've also checked eBay and KEH time to time, but haven't got anything yet. Buying from America would add about 80USD shipping and 18% local VAT. BR, Margus Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Margus, I have seen Excellent + FA 100m f2.8 Macro lenses at KEH.com and Adorama, and also on Ebay for between aud$250 and $300. I doubt that I would buy it new, thus I have given myself approximately aud$300 to spend on the lens. As for dvd burners, if you can show me somewhere to buy one for aud$150, I will jump for joy. (You Do mean a DVD burner and not a CD burner don't you?!?) I haven't seen one within Australia for less than $300 and anything that is of a decent speed and brand is around the $400-$500 mark. For example: http://www.iswh.com.au/nav/productinfo.asp?code=197390 http://www.iswh.com.au/nav/productinfo.asp?code=211146 Oh, also forgot for my lust list - Wacom Graphire 3 tablet and stylus (they come in pink! lol) $200 and there was something else that I remembered but then forgot just as quickly! Sleep deprivation will do that to you I guess!
Re: ye olde film v D debate
On 13 Mar 2004 at 17:49, Mishka wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: I believe that 14MP 35mm full frame image sensors when mature, will deliver quality that rivals all but the best films used under optimal taking conditions. After which point there isn't much point forging to higher pixel densities. and why exactly there isn't much point? is it because 35mm quality is all anyone would ever need? like 640K of RAM? :) We were talking 35mm format. So what would be the advantage of providing more than 14MP density on a 35mm frame? You know that drawing an analogy to RAM capacities is entirely inappropriate in this case. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Pentax advertising!
When was that? (the name change). Unfortunately, I could only see a 300D advert, on Discovery. But if I go in the Pentax (Focus94, there is no such thing as Pentax Romania) store I can see several cameras - including the *istD - and a lot of lenses (most of them are Sigma, the only prime I can remember is their 50mm f/2.8? macro), Lowepro bags (maybe not the best, but they are nice IMHO), filters, darkroom stuff etc. Btw: the service and a photo lab are in the same location. I wasn't able to find a Canon store, and the Nikon/Kodak one is empty. So, all they have is that little advert grin Alex Sarbu - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: Pentax advertising! Just saw a short ad for Pentax Optio cameras on the History channel. I'd heard they were going to start advertising, but this is the first I've seen. It seems to me that there are changes in the works for Pentax, started about the time they changed the company name from Asahi to Pentax. Bill --- Martisoare virtuale prin http://felicitari.acasa.ro
@ Cord
Just got back from my weekend trek to Cord. Gary has a couple of enlargers to dump. #1. Omega D2, head, base, upright. Wollensak lens. $50. This is the type that uses cones for lens mounting. #2 Beseler 23CII. Condenser and color heads. $150 Lots of acc's. A couple of boxes of goodies. Anyone interested, let me know. Collin
RE: OT: Cyclists only.
This is the bike I ride. http://www.haluzak.com/products/horizon.htm The feature which attracted me to this particular model is user X-Seam adjustment at the crank, not at the seat. (X-Seam is the distance from a wall to your heel, when sitting on the floor with back against the wall and legs extended.) Most recumbents adjust for X-Seam at the seat, resulting in a change in your position relative to the wheels and the steering mechanism. The adjustment at the crank does require changing the number of links in the chain, however. Recumbents bikes are a blast to ride. Underseat steering is easier than one might think, and very natural feeling. I need to get mine tuned-up to enjoy the spring-ish weather! Aric -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Cyclists only. Very interesting comments to this link and I didn't know Aric rode a recumbent cycle. I have yet to try one of those! I have ridden a racing trike - that is an experience (!) and a tandem and I owned a track bike for a while which I loved, but gave me hard work, as I live around steep hills.
*ist D Pixel Comparison Test
Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. I want to compare the number of recorded 'hot' pixels with other owners to see if the results I got from testing are normal or otherwise. It'll take about 3/4 of an hour to run the tests the same way I did. I used a little utility called 'Dead Pixel Test' which is available at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm I took a series of shots with the following set-up. 1. Lens cap on 2. Viewfinder cap on 3. Manual mode 4. Manual Focus 5. JPEG Highest Quality 6. F8.0 using FA 24mm (not that the lens should really matter) 7. Noise reduction On I took frames with shutter speeds ranging from 1/4000 down to 2 seconds (all speeds in between). I then used the Pentax Photo Browser to export a *.csv worksheet to work on in excel. Then I ran each frame through the test program, as per the instructions. I set the Luminance threshold to 60, and the Dead Pixel threshold to 100. Thankfully, I recorded no dead pixels, and the worst result was a total of 4 'hot' pixels at 1/8 and 1/6 sec. noise reduction does cut in at 1/4 sec, eliminating all 'hot' pixel occurrences from 1/4 too 2 secs. As other have pointed out, some of the images I uploaded yesterday definitely display hot-spots caused by these 'hot' pixels. What I am interested in is the results that anyone else may get to compare to my camera. Thanks in advance, Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos Cool photos, especially the dragonflies in flight. I was wondering how the *ist-D would do with bugs - looks great! (Mine arrived with the first snow, so no chance to test it on insects yet). - MCC At 12:41 PM 3/13/2004 +0800, you wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web%20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: April PUG theme?
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Re: ye olde film v D debate
Rob Studdert wrote: and why exactly there isn't much point? is it because 35mm quality is all anyone would ever need? like 640K of RAM? :) We were talking 35mm format. So what would be the advantage of providing more than 14MP density on a 35mm frame? You know that drawing an analogy to RAM capacities is entirely inappropriate in this case. how about, to make 16x20 or bigger enlargements? i mean, using 35mm-sized gear,with all the bells and whistles? a lowly canon g2 makes decent 8x10 at iso 50. now, scale that density to 24x35mm sensor, and that would become 40x50! of course, assuming your slr lens can resolve 200 lpmm :) best, mishka
Re: ye olde film v D debate
On 13 Mar 2004 at 18:55, Mishka wrote: how about, to make 16x20 or bigger enlargements? i mean, using 35mm-sized gear,with all the bells and whistles? a lowly canon g2 makes decent 8x10 at iso 50. now, scale that density to 24x35mm sensor, and that would become 40x50! of course, assuming your slr lens can resolve 200 lpmm :) You can make a print as big as you like with a 4 pixel image, it depends upon your threshold of acceptability :-) Noise, sensitivity and exposure latitude of a G2 is no where near as good as achieved with lower density sensors. Higher density sensors such as found in the G5 limit lenses usability above medium apertures. Focus accuracy and lens registration and SLR finder system accuracy becomes much more of an issue if the full resolution potential is to be realized. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
That was my result too, from 1/30 through 2 sec no dead pixels, no hot pixels. Bill - Original Message - From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I tried out mine, following this thread. At speeds from 1/30 through to 4 secs I got nothing, using TIFF (which is what they recommend). The lens was different, but that shouldn't matter! John On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:39:50 +0800, Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. I want to compare the number of recorded 'hot' pixels with other owners to see if the results I got from testing are normal or otherwise. It'll take about 3/4 of an hour to run the tests the same way I did. I used a little utility called 'Dead Pixel Test' which is available at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm I took a series of shots with the following set-up. 1. Lens cap on 2. Viewfinder cap on 3. Manual mode 4. Manual Focus 5. JPEG Highest Quality 6. F8.0 using FA 24mm (not that the lens should really matter) 7. Noise reduction On I took frames with shutter speeds ranging from 1/4000 down to 2 seconds (all speeds in between). I then used the Pentax Photo Browser to export a *.csv worksheet to work on in excel. Then I ran each frame through the test program, as per the instructions. I set the Luminance threshold to 60, and the Dead Pixel threshold to 100. Thankfully, I recorded no dead pixels, and the worst result was a total of 4 'hot' pixels at 1/8 and 1/6 sec. noise reduction does cut in at 1/4 sec, eliminating all 'hot' pixel occurrences from 1/4 too 2 secs. As other have pointed out, some of the images I uploaded yesterday definitely display hot-spots caused by these 'hot' pixels. What I am interested in is the results that anyone else may get to compare to my camera. Thanks in advance, Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos Cool photos, especially the dragonflies in flight. I was wondering how the *ist-D would do with bugs - looks great! (Mine arrived with the first snow, so no chance to test it on insects yet). - MCC At 12:41 PM 3/13/2004 +0800, you wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web%20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com - -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
On 14 Mar 2004 at 7:39, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. For anyone who missed my post last month its posted again below. A few *ist D owners sent me results, maybe you would like to add yours then I'll have enogh data to post a page of results. --- Forwarded message follows --- Date forwarded: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:36:41 -0500 From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:36:36 +1000 Subject:*ist D sensor noise survey Hey it's a while since we had a survey... I'm interested in making an informal survey of the noise performance of our *ist D cameras. Anyone with access to a PC who has permission to run the little test app at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm can participate. One exposure is all that's required for the test however in order to achieve consistency we need to make sure that each camera is set up the same. I propose that the test shot should be made as follows: 10 seconds manual exposure (lens capped) 200ISO Daylight WB NR off Saturation setting (middle) Sharpness setting (left most) Contrast setting (left most) sRGB CS TIFF L file The tiff file can then be opened and tested under the default settings of the DeadPixelTest application and the information file saved. I ran the procedure above and the results were as follows: [DeadPixelText] Version=1.0 Description= FileType=TIFF NumBadPixels=15 0=Hot,2798,135,69 1=Hot,1954,339,113 2=Hot,1809,585,64 3=Hot,726,610,112 4=Hot,726,611,192 5=Hot,726,612,112 6=Hot,2312,753,121 7=Hot,323,766,94 8=Hot,572,1365,116 9=Hot,1627,1400,64 10=Hot,2163,1958,96 11=Hot,2162,1959,113 12=Hot,2163,1959,145 13=Hot,2164,1959,112 14=Hot,2163,1960,98 The first two numbers is the pixel location and the last number is the heat, 0 being off and 255 being full on. So I have one pixel that's 3/4 on at 10 seconds. If anyone would like to mail me their results I'll collate and publish the data later down the track (I'll keep data sources anonymous if requested). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 --- End of forwarded message ---
Paw #5 - Pirate Jenny in Concert
Some of you may recall that a couple of weeks ago, I shot a very dim concert with available light, using Neopan 1600 pushed to 3200. I got back the 4x6 proofs today, and I'm not entirely dissatisfied. Made lots of mistakes to be sure, but I think (hope) I learned from them. My friend Jennifer and her group Pirate Jenny sing torch songs, mostly by Weill, Brecht and the like, along with their own compositions inspired by those people. They are wonderful, and I enjoyed shooting them. I'll get another chance at their next concert in about a month. After much deliberation, this is my PAW: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2205010 And, here's the entire folder, 10 photos culled from about 90 frames shot (lots of repitition): http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=383331 I would be pleased to hear your comments and critiques of both the PAW, and the folder in general. Thanks! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: OT: Spain suffers
Carlos, As I sat at my favourite cafe this morning, with my usual weekend espresso and a newspaper, tears rolled down my cheeks, as I read of the incredible courage of your countrymen and women. Despite the all to real threat of further attacks, I read and saw photos of millions of Spaniards taking to the streets, telling the world, and the terrorists in particular (whoever they were), that SPAIN WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER ATTACK. No matter what your government or police or security forces will do about this, your citizens made a bold and brave statement that won't be forgotten. I know you are grieving right now, Carlos, but you can certainly hold your head high, that you are a Spaniard today. thank you, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Spain suffers Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:09:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: To Carlos and our other Spanish pdml readers, we send you our sympathy and condolences. None of these people deserved to have their lives cut short by the whim of some zealots. Frank said it well in a previous post. Regards, Bob S. Thanks again to all who have expressed their solidarity and condolences to the people of Spain. I am not from Madrid, but more than 11.000.000 Spaniards took the streets all over the country yesterday to show our unity against terrorism. Thanks for your thoughts for the families and the injured (more than 1.400), they are the ones who need all the possible support from everybody, now and in future. I can't say how grateful I am. Your simpathy is enormously appreciated, much more when we see that our government is concealing information about who are the responsible for the bombings and are trying to divert attention towards ETA (who are as despisable as the ones who performed the attacks, but this time they are not behind this carnage), because we have an election tomorrow and those liars want to keep power at all costs. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido) _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: ye olde film v D debate
Rob Studdert wrote: You can make a print as big as you like with a 4 pixel image, it depends upon your threshold of acceptability :-) done that -- you know, Black Square by Malevitch? -- that's an oversharpened 1 pixel BW image, and costs more money that i will ever see in my life :) Noise, quite reasonable at ISO 50. same as istD at 200 (dpreview.com tests) besides, noise can be reduced at loss of resolution. and 100 (5x5x4) MP image can take a substantial resolution loss before it would become 11 MP :) sensitivity ? and exposure latitude of a G2 10 bits vs. 12 bits. lots of people here swear they save jpegs from their dslrs, which is 8 bits, and completely negates any theoretical advantage. is no where near as good as achieved with lower density sensors. of course not. so what? LF backs are even better. what's your point? i never said it'd be perfect. i said it'd be very useful and far from being pointless Higher density sensors such as found in the G5 limit lenses usability above medium apertures. ? so far i though that it's its focal length that limits usability (7mm..20mm) -- it would become a pinhole camera at f/16 :) Focus accuracy and lens registration and SLR finder system accuracy becomes much more of an issue if the full resolution potential is to be realized. it does. so what? from my personal experience with that thingy, it's not noise or resolution (as long as one keeps ISO = 100, which is good enough for me, i am used to iso 50 and 100 films) -- it does resolve 190 lpmm, *on the sensor*, but serious distortion and flare that make this camera a toy. best, mishka
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
I have to say I breathed a sigh of relief, having recently imported the camera at a large discount against the going price in the UK. I might add that the large discount was AFTER paying all taxes and duties at the full rate. UPS made sure of that. John On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:23:17 -0500, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my result too, from 1/30 through 2 sec no dead pixels, no hot pixels. Bill - Original Message - From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I tried out mine, following this thread. At speeds from 1/30 through to 4 secs I got nothing, using TIFF (which is what they recommend). The lens was different, but that shouldn't matter! John On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:39:50 +0800, Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. I want to compare the number of recorded 'hot' pixels with other owners to see if the results I got from testing are normal or otherwise. It'll take about 3/4 of an hour to run the tests the same way I did. I used a little utility called 'Dead Pixel Test' which is available at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm I took a series of shots with the following set-up. 1. Lens cap on 2. Viewfinder cap on 3. Manual mode 4. Manual Focus 5. JPEG Highest Quality 6. F8.0 using FA 24mm (not that the lens should really matter) 7. Noise reduction On I took frames with shutter speeds ranging from 1/4000 down to 2 seconds (all speeds in between). I then used the Pentax Photo Browser to export a *.csv worksheet to work on in excel. Then I ran each frame through the test program, as per the instructions. I set the Luminance threshold to 60, and the Dead Pixel threshold to 100. Thankfully, I recorded no dead pixels, and the worst result was a total of 4 'hot' pixels at 1/8 and 1/6 sec. noise reduction does cut in at 1/4 sec, eliminating all 'hot' pixel occurrences from 1/4 too 2 secs. As other have pointed out, some of the images I uploaded yesterday definitely display hot-spots caused by these 'hot' pixels. What I am interested in is the results that anyone else may get to compare to my camera. Thanks in advance, Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos Cool photos, especially the dragonflies in flight. I was wondering how the *ist-D would do with bugs - looks great! (Mine arrived with the first snow, so no chance to test it on insects yet). - MCC At 12:41 PM 3/13/2004 +0800, you wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web%20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com - -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were talking 35mm format. So what would be the advantage of providing more than 14MP density on a 35mm frame? You know that drawing an analogy to RAM capacities is entirely inappropriate in this case. Pass the coffee Time for maths! in round figures 14Mp is; lets say 4800x2900. Take the long side of 35mm = 36mm and think of lines per mm. well great film and ggreat lenses may deliver 80 lpmm but that is probably a theoretical figure few people get in practise One line is a discernable pair of light dark transitions so it takes TWO pixels 4800/36/2=66.67 lpmm!!! we are getting near to the best that lenses can provide. Or are we? The resolution of a system of more than one resolution is not as great as the best figure... No it is:- 1/rsum=1/r1+1/r2+1/r3 etc. so a lens that give 80lpmm and a sensor that gives 67lpmm yealds 36.5lpmm!!.. Conclusion, there is a reason for more pixels right up to the point where the resolution of the sensor exceeds the resolution of the lens by an order of magnitude (10x) Then your pics will only be limited by the quality of the lens! That's about 1.5Gig pixels! Anyone care to compute where in this problem the wavelength of light will start to come into play?... time for bed here.. Tom Addison, an electronics engineer who works for physicists, a folk singer and flute player, Oh and I've been using Pentax cameras since my (now ex) wife bought me one in 1977...That's all folks.. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies
Great shot of the 917K, John. It gets my blood going just looking at one! vbg Unfortunately, I can't pull up the Can Am one, but I do want to come back later and try again. What a brutal machine that was! Saw it race a couple of times at Mosport, both with the RC Cola colours, and the Penske Sunoco version, with Donahue. I think the RC Cola colours were '72, the first time I ever saw a race at Mosport. Some nobody named Charlie Kemp (I think; not sure of the name) won - those cars were so much faster than the rest a chimp could have won (sorry Charlie...). The next year was the Penske version wiith Donahue, and that was one of the fastest race cars ever. Period. A true tour de force. Sorry to get off topic again, but I love Can Am. I'm glad you got it back on topic by taking those shots with a Pentax! vbg thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you wondering what this was about (and seeing as this is, after all, a Pentax photography newsgroup), I offer the following two shots I took at the 1998 Monterey Historics (using my PZ-1p): http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/frame203.jpg http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/frame316.jpg The first shot (the red car) is a genuine 917K, although I believe that is not the original car that carried that particular livery at Le Mans. The second car (the blue open-top car in Sunoco colours) never actually raced. It was to be Mark Donohue's car the next year (a plan which was, unfortunately, curtailed by Mark's death). _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
- Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning Subject: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. I want to compare the number of recorded 'hot' pixels with other owners to see if the results I got from testing are normal or otherwise. It'll take about 3/4 of an hour to run the tests the same way I did. I haven't run this test for a while, last time I did, mine showed no dead pixels ever, and no hot pixels until 1/4 second. William Robb
Re: *ist D Photos
- Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. That got lost in my reply. Cool photos William Robb
Fw: So called pixel problems
- Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: So called pixel problems Hi Shaun,This site is extremely helpful even though it is a Nikonians site it is about the same sensor and I think you would find it of use.The other test for spots is to set your aperture at f22,point it(the camera)at blue (preferably)sky and take a seies of shots.This will show up any dust spots.I went through much heart ache about bloody dust. http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning I would be interested to see how you fare. Regards Chris kennedy - Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Chris' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:33 AM Subject: RE: So called pixel problems Yep, I'm going to give it a good clean Chris, just as soon as I figure out how! Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: So called pixel problems Hi Shaun,I would have thought you might just have a slightly soiled sensor looking at the flower shot and the others.If after printing the shots you see the spots a light swab clean should do the trick.I have had dust problems with a new D100,*istD,a New Sigma SD10 and they have a dust filter.It is possible and quite common to get dust from the factory.I would check out this avenue as it will more than likely occur especially in the bush if you don't take care when changing lenses.Zoom lenses can suckit in also. Regards Chris Kennedy
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
- Original Message - From: Tom Addison Subject: Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long Time for maths! Figure out what it needs to be for 40 lpmm, which more closely resembles what the finest lenses really churn out. William Robb
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
On 13 Mar 2004 at 19:12, William Robb wrote: Figure out what it needs to be for 40 lpmm, which more closely resembles what the finest lenses really churn out. That's easy *ist D delivers a system resolution with top end lenses of almost 45lpmm, a little more would be nicer but probably not necessary. If I need more data I usually up-format :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
finest lens resolve far more than that. even on film. difraction limited lens can get 100 lp/mm at at f5.6, 50% mtf. so the 40 lpmm is mostly limitation of the film, afaik. mishka William Robb wrote: Time for maths! Figure out what it needs to be for 40 lpmm, which more closely resembles what the finest lenses really churn out. William Robb
Re: OT: Spain suffers
On Mar 13, 2004, at 7:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: SPAIN WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER ATTACK. Yes, Spain has stood tall in the war against terror. A war that won't be won with diplomacy, newspaper editorials, or UN debates.
RE: *ist D Photos
Thanks William! Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos - Original Message - From: Dr. Shaun Canning Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. That got lost in my reply. Cool photos William Robb
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
Come on now, Bill. He just did it for 36 lpm. 40 lpm is an overall system figure. The arial resolution of the lens is much higher, as is the film resolution. Folks have explained all this on the list over and over. Still we keep getting these outbursts of mumble-jumble. Tom gave the formula for any number of items in the system. Overall-res = 1/((1/lens-res) + (1/film-res) + (1/enlarger-lens-res) + (1/elargeing-paper-res) + (1/viewing-loupe-res)) you can add any thing else you can think of to the equation, the answer will always be lower than the lowest figure in the equation. A diffraction limited large aperture lens can have arial resolutions around 600 lpm. The finest grain BW film around 200 lpm. 1/(1/600) + (1/200) = 150 lpm. Which is about the maximum resolution for a film based system. We are talking Tech Pan here, and maybe a $5000 50mm lens. With a good 50/1.4 Pentax lens we are talking maybe 100 lpm. The same Pentax lens with color negative film you are talking that 40 lpm you mention (on film, a print would be far lower). -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom Addison Subject: Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long Time for maths! Figure out what it needs to be for 40 lpmm, which more closely resembles what the finest lenses really churn out. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
For anyone who missed my post last month its posted again below. A few *ist D owners sent me results, maybe you would like to add yours then I'll have enogh data to post a page of results. I have the pictures (BTW they look beautiful), when testing what should the values for hot and dead pixel threshold be? (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long Come on now, Bill. He just did it for 36 lpm. 40 lpm is an overall system figure. The arial resolution of the lens is much higher, as is the film resolution. Folks have explained all this on the list over and over. Still we keep getting these outbursts of mumble-jumble. Tom gave the formula for any number of items in the system. Overall-res = 1/((1/lens-res) + (1/film-res) + (1/enlarger-lens-res) + (1/elargeing-paper-res) + (1/viewing-loupe-res)) Well, then, here is the math for a quality optical system using a good quality colour film: 20. William Robb
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long finest lens resolve far more than that. even on film. difraction limited lens can get 100 lp/mm at at f5.6, 50% mtf. so the 40 lpmm is mostly limitation of the film, afaik. Lens tests are universally (and erroneously) done using a high contrast (50:1 or higher) test chart. This gives totally useless information for the pictorial photographer, since lens resolution is directly tied to subject contrast. If a lens is tested at the more reasonable 1.6:1 toc, then more useful resolution information is made available. Note, if all you want the lens for is shooting resolution charts, then go hard, and your 100 lp/mm number is probably as good a guess as any, and film is not the limiting factor, as Tech Pan will resolve over 200lp/mm at 1000:1. If you want to know what the lens will really do in a pictorial situation, toss the USAF chart, it's isn't worth the paper it's printed on. The best resolution test I have found is distant tree branches against the sky on a still day. William Robb
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long finest lens resolve far more than that. even on film. difraction limited lens can get 100 lp/mm at at f5.6, 50% mtf. so the 40 lpmm is mostly limitation of the film, afaik.
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
On 14 Mar 2004 at 12:46, mapson wrote: I have the pictures (BTW they look beautiful), when testing what should the values for hot and dead pixel threshold be? Default, hot threshold 60, dead 250 Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Photographer a week (Aussies)
THANKS ROB!!! Some absolutely gorgeous photographs there! Regards Albano --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Mar 2004 at 17:39, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Me Too! Trent is the partner of Narelle Autio who won the Leica Oskar Barnack award a couple of years back with her series Coastal Dwellers You may find more work from them and some other interesting photographer folios here: http://www.stillsgallery.com.au/artists/index.shtml Stills Gallery is one of the premier galleries in Sydney, well worth a visit generally. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ye olde film v D debate, a bit long
William Robb wrote: If you want to know what the lens will really do in a pictorial situation, toss the USAF chart, it's isn't worth the paper it's printed on. The best resolution test I have found is distant tree branches against the sky on a still day. William Robb you are entitled to your opinion of course. for the rest of the world, a real world test vs USAF http://www.hevanet.com/cperez/test/fourcameras.html btw, in my original post i haven't even mentioned either contrast or USAF. and, for discussion of digital sensors, resolution on film is absolutely irrelevant. best, mishka
