Re: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test
Hi Arnold, on 11 May 04 you wrote in pentax.list: >The original Fotomagazin "test" of the *ist D was published in the issue >12/2003. If I remember correctly from reading in the shop (I never >bought that issue) the score on resolution was so low that it could have >been only cause either by misfocusing or some other manipulation. Those "testers" are simply mad: in the actual Colorfoto they've tested the Nikon D70 using a superb 60mm macro lens. All other DSLR tests before were made with simple zoom lenses (e.g. the 18-35 with the *istD). And now guess - the D70 has the best picture quality of all! There is a simple formula to calculate the test results - just multiplicate a certain factor with the number of adds that a producer buys ;-) Have you ever heard of a bad test of a Sigma or Tamron 28-300 superzoom? Gues why... ;-) Cheers, Heiko
Re: PAW - Jens Bladt
Hi, Tuesday, May 11, 2004, 7:07:14 AM, Jens wrote: > Yes, there's a small apple tree on my tiny front lawn. It's a great idea to > photograph an apple later on. I'll try to remember. Thanks! here's a picture of mine I rather like: http://www.web-options.com/p7.jpg It's nothing special, but it's from a place in Dorset that I think is the closest to the garden of Eden - but no snakes! -- Cheers, Bob
Re: OT: Monitors
On 11 May 2004 at 18:14, David Mann wrote: > I'm currently saving for an Apple HD Cinema Display because these two > screens are far too big (and are probably cooking my brain). LCDs also > have a much shorter warm-up time while consuming less power. > Unfortunately the really good ones are really expensive. > > Cheers, > > - Dave (dreaming of owning an IBM T221) These little fellas seem OK too: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/proseries/vp2290b/ Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Monitors
On May 11, 2004, at 9:59 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm looking for a high quality CRT monitor on which to do my Photoshop work. I've heard very good things about the LaCie Electronblue IV and the Sony Artisan, as well as a particular model of NEC, the model number of which escapes me right now. Has anyone any experience with these monitors? Any recommendations for a high quality CRT monitor (Flat screen a must!) Thanking you in advance for past favors A friend of mine has been trying to get his hands on the Sony Artisan, but he can't convince anyone to bring one into the country as Sony is no longer importing any CRT monitors into NZ. I've heard its an excellent monitor for an astonishingly low price (relatively speaking). Try looking at Barco... but I don't think their screens are completely flat. And if you're not keen on the price of the Artisan, you won't even want to think about Barco ;) FWIW I'm currently using a pair of calibrated Philips 109P screens. The blacks could be a little better but I'm not complaining - the first one was free, and I bought the second after the price halved due to the booming popularity of LCDs. I'm currently saving for an Apple HD Cinema Display because these two screens are far too big (and are probably cooking my brain). LCDs also have a much shorter warm-up time while consuming less power. Unfortunately the really good ones are really expensive. Cheers, - Dave (dreaming of owning an IBM T221) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: PAW - Jens Bladt
Yes, there's a small apple tree on my tiny front lawn. It's a great idea to photograph an apple later on. I'll try to remember. Thanks! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. maj 2004 06:49 Til: Jens Bladt Emne: Re: PAW - Jens Bladt Hi! Jens, now that you wrote it is from *your* garden - you would have to post the picture of an apple when you have some... The bokeh is rather unobtrusive... Interesting... JB> Just a flower on a tree - Appleblossom. JB> SONY DSC F717, f8, 1/125 sec. (0.3 minus correction), a tripod and a little JB> rain. JB> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4389319.html JB> All the best JB> Jens Bladt JB> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JB> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how gravity works...
Hi, > I wish you were coming to GFM (and everyone else from across the pond who's > been expounding mightily in this thread). that's very kind of you to say. Sadly I don't have the time or the money this year :o( I actually think I may have been there or thereabouts before. I was in NC for a week once and we went up some rather tame mountain in that area. It was a lovely place to drive around, with hill-billy shacks and everything, so I can at least be there in some sort of spirit. > I mean, I have not the slightest idea what the hell you're all talking > about, but it's fun anyway! The pleasures of armchair science and philosophy! -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Monday evening (in Switzerland) survey - have you ever made self portraits
> 1 have you ever made self portraits ? Yes, several times. > 2 If yes , serious ore funny ones, did you choose a theme ? Both serious and funny. And once in a while even a theme. > 3 If no, why not? > 4 How did you do it, with a remote control or the build in self timer ? * the built in self timer (camera on a tripod or a flat surface) * aiming at myself in a mirror * holding the camera on an outstretched arm and trying to aim it My small Sony P&S camera even has a mirror beside the lens to make the last method easier. If you see yourself in the mirror, then you're more or less in the frame. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test
Well, I guess that you are kidding. Quality never was a problem with German lenses. What really caused the death of Germany's camera industry was cheaper and more innovative (with respect to camera technology) competition from Japan. The Pentax Spotmatic was a major nail to the coffin of Zeiss Ikon and others. Interestingly, last year there was a large story in "Fotomagazin" titled "Durchbruch der Spiegelreflexen" (Breakthrough of the SLRs). This article reviewed the SLR history and the contributions from Leica, Zeiss, Nikon, Canon, Olympus and some others. However, the author managed to fully ignore Pentax. Not a single word about the Spotmatic! Unbelievable but true. I wrote a letter to the Magazine which was never answered. However, the Magazine printed one or two letters of other irritated readers. The original Fotomagazin "test" of the *ist D was published in the issue 12/2003. If I remember correctly from reading in the shop (I never bought that issue) the score on resolution was so low that it could have been only cause either by misfocusing or some other manipulation. Arnold Shawn K. schrieb: They're just mad because Pentax lenses are superior to all the high priced,high falutin german made stuff...
Re: Monitors
>- Original Message - >From: Shel Belinkoff > I'm looking for a high quality CRT monitor on which to do my Photoshop > work. I've heard very good things about the LaCie Electronblue IV and the > Sony Artisan.. I've used the LaCie Electron19blue IV for about a year. I'm quite pleased although I have little to compare it with. Bought it reconditioned directly from LaCie. Mark Rofini
Re: PAW - Kids eating candy on a Sunday afternoon
Actually, Norm, it was the next summer, what we liked to call "the morning after the night before." A tip o' the derby to Shelly Berman Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/10/2004 9:31:14 PM > Subject: Re: PAW - Kids eating candy on a Sunday afternoon > > Hey Markus, it was in the summer of love era :-) (Shel's showing his > age)
Re: PAW - Kids eating candy on a Sunday afternoon
Hey Markus, it was in the summer of love era :-) (Shel's showing his age) I wasn't really referring to the B&W vs. color, you can just see that the photos are not "present day" and I wonder how that affects the viewer, how strong is the 'nostalgia' effect. Norm. Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Norm I thought the "69" was some play on words not a real date. It does not look nostalgic or old to me, maybe its just the memories of my own childhood that makes my like children photos so much and black and white photography helps a lot here. I could not imagine the photos having such a strong effect if they where in color. Markus there photos less if we didn't know they were taken in '69? Would the nostalgia factor, taken away, make them less appealing. Questions for the audience. Norm http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/kids_eating_candy.html
Re: how gravity works...
Bob W wrote: mea culpa, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer ...but is it the best of all possible universes?
Re: how gravity works...
I think you just described my coffee maker... Norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simplified version: 1. Build large scale capacitors (Leyden Jars). 2. Wire them in parallel. 3. Connect them to a switch, and an inductor. 4. Shield all electrical equipment you don't want damaged. 5. Hit the switch. When the circuit is closed, the current will run threw the inductor, inducing a great magnetic field. This field will be so large, that it will induce current on the wires of electronic devices thus frying electronic components. I may have missed a few steps, but that is the basic idea.
RE: A tale of two cameras
> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Wah, waah, wah!! > > My Nikon's so heavy! > > My Canon's sooo heavy! > > My arms are sore. My neck and shoulders hurt! Waaahh!! > > We true Pentaxians feel so sorry for you turncoats... I don't remember my 645n as being particularly lightafter using the 645n + zoom + 500ftz on a bracket for a few months I developed tendonitis in both arms. Tennis elbow in my right arm, biceps tendonitis in my left. No one said it was an easy job! tv
Re: PAW - Jens Bladt
Hi! Jens, now that you wrote it is from *your* garden - you would have to post the picture of an apple when you have some... The bokeh is rather unobtrusive... Interesting... JB> Just a flower on a tree - Appleblossom. JB> SONY DSC F717, f8, 1/125 sec. (0.3 minus correction), a tripod and a little JB> rain. JB> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4389319.html JB> All the best JB> Jens Bladt JB> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JB> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW: Spoleto
Hi! Layers of light, layers of culture, layers of history, layers of beauty... GI> Hi everybody, GI> Unfortunately, due to an electrical problem occurred to my car GI> yesterday, I missed the 9th Pentax Day in Spoleto... :-( GI> I didn't feel comfortable to drive that far with the other car GI> (a Punto, not exactly a new one) so I decided to quit *also* GI> this time (third? PD in a row... sigh). GI> I had been there recently, though, so I decided to share at GI> least a pic from that trip: GI> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349264&size=lg GI> I chose this shot because it shows quite well the various levels GI> of the town. The castle in the background is called Rocca GI> Albornoziana and has been a prison until 1982. GI> Comments are welcome as always. GI> Ciao, GI> Gianfranco GI> = GI> To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. GI> ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW: Sign of the Times ?
Hi! I think I would move the camera to the right a little so as to fully include Cavalier (spelling?) on the right and fully exclude car on the left. I think it would then make this a little more closed (lack of word)... It is parking all right ... FW> With the ever increasing cost of gasoline I wonder if we'll FW> be seeing more of these signs springing up in North America. FW> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2352258 FW> The area in southern Ontario where I live has a fairly large FW> Old Order Mennonite population. The Old Order Mennonites, like FW> the Amish, shun modern conveniences such as cars and prefer to FW> use horse and buggies. The operator of this Home depot FW> store has provided a barn/shelter for them to park their horses FW> and buggies whilst shopping. Just struck me as an interesting FW> sign, not one seen every day. FW> Taken with my Optio 33L. FW> -- FW> Fred Widall, PeopleSoft Developer, FW> Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FW> URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall FW> -- Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW03: Spoleto
Hi! Fascinating. Dario, could you please post (off-PAW) a crop of dark and light areas so that we could see a level of noise or lack thereof? Really fascinating! DB> http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw03e.htm DB> Sort of a postcard this time, inspired by Gianco's Spoleto. DB> Ciao, DB> Dario Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW - Shana Punim in San Francisco
Hi! I did not know it reached state of PITA... I find it quite normal for me at least to have to look for the original message when I am reading the reply. Well, here I am trying to correct myself . It is Shana Punim all right, but there is one major problem that I see here. The child looks old with all the wrinkles on their face. Technically I should say I keep learning from you most of the time, this one included. However, if you did not write it was a kid I probably would have asked you about the age of the person on the photograph. SB> Shana Punim means "pretty face" in Yiddish. Here's a "shana punim" from SB> San Francisco - one of the regular gang of kids that hung around my studio SB> and the school yard in 1968-69. SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/shana_punim.html SB> Shel Belinkoff Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Monday evening (in Switzerland) survey - have you ever made self portraits
Hi! Nice meeting you Rob ... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Monday evening (in Switzerland) survey - have you ever made self portraits
Hi! MM> Since I got so much answers on my last surveys, here is another one: well, well, are you publishing the results? MM> 1 have you ever made self portraits ? Nope MM> 2 If yes , serious ore funny ones, did you choose a theme ? See above MM> 3 If no, why not? Honestly, I've no idea. MM> 4 How did you do it, with a remote control or the build in self timer ? If I were to do one, I'd probably try both. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Enabled with an istD!
Hi! Wonderful news. Now you have much of recycled electrons to burn ... I for one am looking forward for your excellent photos taken with *istD, Amita. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PAW - Desert Winter
Bruce Dayton wrote: > > Ann, > > Based on your comments and a few others, I have re-scanned this image > and "fiddled" just a bit. The sky can't be darkened much without > making it look pretty bad (probably 8/16 bit type of problem or just > blown out), so I have cropped some to improve that. The new scan also has > more accurate color - at least on my calibrated monitor here. Along > with that, the shadows are not blocked up, so you can see a bit more > detail there. You can compare to the first one by clicking the next > hotspot above the picture. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0127-80a.htm Don't know quite why _ but I couldnt get there just now - might just be my browser being cranky... drat... > > I'm not quite sure I follow you about "Would like to see it titled on > your web page" - could you elaborate just a bit. > > Thanks, > > Bruce > Oh, simply that I'd like to see a place name or subject line under the image on that page. Bryce Canyon in winter or something... I thought at first it was Cedar Breaks, actually I know you identified it in the email but if someone was on that page who was not on list they wouldnt know ann
RE: Enabled with an istD!
> Wow! That's great Amita. After talking to you while you > were in DC I didn't think you were interested in the D. It's just that it was a bit out of my price range, and I'm not usually an early adopter. But Nate says he got a great deal (he bought it without a lens) and he just really wanted me to have one since he was having so much fun with his 300D. > Trust me, It will be an easy transition. I went from manual > focus, mechanical cameras to the *ist D without much frustration. Yeah, I've been using a ZX-50 for about a month now, so that's been a good transition camera for it. I've just spent an hour with the istD and I've already figured out most things I would want to do with it. It makes a really nice combo with the Sigma 28-105 f2.8 I bought used a couple of weeks ago. Tomorrow I'll take it out for its first real test outside.
Re: PAW: Venice Beach Compressed
It is a shellfish sold in many restaurants, ya'know.. Regards, Bob... --- "No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session." -- Mark Twain From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, but "Muscle" is listed on the restaurant's outdoor menu! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Venice Beach has an outdoor gym that's devoted mainly to weight lifting. It's the current version of the old "Muscle Beach" of movie and California pop culture fame. The original site was in Santa Monica, a coupleof miles up the beach. > > > > > >>I just noticed the menu on the outdoor poster. What kid of "Muscle ..." > >>do they sell in Venice Beach?
Re: Enabled with an istD!
Wow! What a spouse! Congrats. You are gonna have tons of fun. Let us know what you think of it. Bruce Monday, May 10, 2004, 6:51:52 PM, you wrote: AG> My husband just gave me an early birthday present so I'd have it for the AG> NYCPDML outing on Saturday. I am beside myself with shock. Now I have to AG> rethink my kit for Saturday. Gotta sit down with the manual and get AG> familiar with this puppy. Big thanks to Herb for being Nate's Pentax AG> consultant. ;) AG> Amita
RE: Monitors
Samsungs are very good, and Sonys too (I guess they are better, but very expensive). Regards Albano --- Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any > > recommendations for a high quality CRT monitor > (Flat screen a must!) > > Thanking you in advance for past favors > > > Last December my husband got the Samsung SyncMaster > 957MB, 19 inches, > $300 from Amazon. It is very nearly a flat screen. > He didn't go for true > flat because he didn't want the two wires on the > screen. Nate does a lot > of PhotoShop work on the monitor and he loves it. > Nice color and > contrast. > > I like the Iiyama brand of monitors as well. I've > been using one for > almost 6 years. They're supposed to be as good as > Sonys but they're > quite expensive. > > Amita > = Albano Garcia "El Pibe Asahi" __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover
Re: how gravity works...
The first thing you must do, John, is to take that chip off your shoulder, and read my little comments with a grin on your face. There's no way to type ascii text and imbue it with humor, no way for you to see the expression on my face, etc. If you've got some preconceived notion that anyone who pokes a little fun at the universe and how it's been built is either wholly knowledgeable about it or ignorant, and anyone who makes fun of the whole serious thing, makes your seriousness more shaky and might even be poking fun at YOU, then you're taking the whole thing much MUCH too seriously! As you go along, keep that in mind, and re-read what I've said, and how I've said it, please. John Francis wrote: keith whaley wrote: Yeah, some fool wants us to believe that all the material the big bang scattered all over, well, it all came from some very, very small "singularity." Isn't that right? Now, I do knonw that all fairly intelligent people actually DO believe that, and even tho' they don't understand how that could possibly be, they nevertheless go along with it. So do I. No, really! When I said, "...some fool..." I wasn't really calling anyone a fool, but you already had your back in the air, ready to hiss your way thru the argument--so you didn't see any fun in what I was saying at all... That's a wholly presumptive presupposition indeed! How come the initiation point isn't the most sparsely populated part of the cosmos? All of it ought to have gone outward from that point source, and created a BIG spherical vacancy, no? No. It's apparent that you haven't grasped the idea at all. Apparently I haven't! However, that's why I'm here. I'm willing to listen and learn. If I wasn't, I'd have left this thread long ago, believe me. I know I have some pre-conceived notions and that's from learning my physics back in 1946-'47 high school as a base. From that point forward, I became a mechanical engineer, but didn't pursue any advanced physics. All I did was read about it. That was almost kindergarten for physicists, and a LOT of water has gone under the bridge. Some of today's most powerful branches of physics didn't even exist back then. I'm aware of all that, but I don't take it quite as seriously as some here do, it seems. Sorry if I twisted your shorts a bit. Not intentional, nor was it personal, believe me... The "initiation point" has now expanded, and that's what our universe is. You still seem to be assuming that space existed "outside" that singularity. It didn't. There wasn't any "outward" for the universe to spread into. Well, so everybody seems to want to believe. Yet another thing to take on pure faith. I don't know how anyone can prove it, but then, I DO seem to be hung up on getting proof for things that modern day physics just "believes' out of hand. Okay. Another gimme for your side. I'm getting used to this. If all that stuff was inside--oops, I mean was formed into an infinitesimally small "point", and I am asked to believe that preposterous (another little joke, John!) contention, it's a very small leap to believe there was _nothing at all_ for the explosion to expand "into." Hey, why not...sort of balances out, doesn't it?! The whole of space (and time) was packed neatly up into that singularity, together with all the matter and energy now to be found in our universe. Yup. I'm sure it was. Stands to reason, doesn't it... Now the whole of space/time has expanded to be quite a bit larger. But there's still no distinguished "central point" where everything started off. You must have come across the balloon analogy before. Absolutely. Long ago. It's a clear analogy, and readily conceived. Take a partially- inflated balloon, and draw a design on the surface. Now blow the balloon up so that it's twice as large as it was before. Everything on the design is now twice as large as it was, and all distances are twice as large. But there's no special point on the surface which was the centre for the expansion. Well, inflationary universe models are rather like that. You can come up with a mathematical description that has a "center", if you want. I do seem to want that. I mean, one can point to the geometric center of the balloon as the center of the spherical expansion, can we not? But that center doesn't correspond to a point within the universe. Okay. If you say so. You know far more about it than I. Another gimme for you. I know these analogies are meant primarily to foster understanding, but it's all the "well, it's not _quite_ like that, but you get the idea" comments that throw a clinker in my overall understanding. No, no...I still go along with all the other stuff, but there's so much that has been left out, that needs resolution in my mind. No problem, tho'...that's why I'm still here listening to you most learned gents! Rail at "fools" and their ideas as much as you like, if you are unable to understand them. Fortunately for the rest o
Re: Enabled with an istD!
Wow! That's great Amita. After talking to you while you were in DC I didn't think you were interested in the D. Trust me, It will be an easy transition. I went from manual focus, mechanical cameras to the *ist D without much frustration. Enjoy! Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Herb Chong'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:51 PM Subject: Enabled with an istD! > My husband just gave me an early birthday present so I'd have it for the > NYCPDML outing on Saturday. I am beside myself with shock. Now I have to > rethink my kit for Saturday. Gotta sit down with the manual and get > familiar with this puppy. Big thanks to Herb for being Nate's Pentax > consultant. ;) > > Amita >
Enabled with an istD!
My husband just gave me an early birthday present so I'd have it for the NYCPDML outing on Saturday. I am beside myself with shock. Now I have to rethink my kit for Saturday. Gotta sit down with the manual and get familiar with this puppy. Big thanks to Herb for being Nate's Pentax consultant. ;) Amita
PAW - Shana Punim in San Francisco
Shana Punim means "pretty face" in Yiddish. Here's a "shana punim" from San Francisco - one of the regular gang of kids that hung around my studio and the school yard in 1968-69. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/shana_punim.html Shel Belinkoff
Re: how gravity works...
Coherent sound waves? Seems to me I recently read about this happening, and the article described a military use for it, for disabling troops with unbearable sound intensity... Maybe in Science News? Discovery Magazine? keith whaley Seaquest DSV first year?
RE: how gravity works...
RE: Phonons... The idea of a phonon is like a ruler. There are no Phonons, there are no Inches, a ruler is just a stick with marks on it, but if it makes the right predictions than that's all the scientific method can deal with... http://www.cm.utexas.edu/~mcdevitt/supercon/glossary.htm#P The natural vibrations of a solid's crystal lattice. It's a term not a thing. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Steve Discarding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how gravity works... They often do, using names like charm and color to describe properties of subatomic particles that simply have no analog in everyday life. Remember, most of these bizarre properties/object are terms in equations. They make predications about events in accelerators like "this particle will deflect this much due to this property". Since there are no macroscopic analogies, they have to make up names for things. A more accessible example is a "phonon" A phonon is a quantized vibration, like a sound wave. You can make phonons by banging your knuckles on the table top. It turns out that if you assume these vibrations are little particles you can make predictions that agree with many, many experiments. The agreement is easily good enough to use this theory to construct technological devices. This whole idea of sound waves being little particles may bother some, but if the internal logic is consistent and makes the correct predictions, then that's all the scientific method can deal with. It is important to remember that common sense only applies to common things, and not even them sometimes. The only real meaning of common sense is "that collection of empirical rules of thumb I/we have found useful to explaining the events of my daily life". "Science" imposes a much higher degree of logic/experimental precision on this process, and sometimes the results are surprising. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/04 02:11PM >>> Hi, [...] > That's what I like about you guys. Something beyond explanation? Let's > make up an entity that explains it. Then, we'll go looking for it. > It's just so cool that these sorts of things are theoretical constructs at > first, then are proven through various observations/experiments. It's like, > "hey, given what we know of the mass of the universe, it's expanding too > slowly. There's some gravity out there we can't find. We'll "invent" black > matter, to explain it!" > "What's that you say? We need to "invent" grey matter to explain something > else? Okay, we can do that too". to paraphrase a song, they laughed at phlogiston. But to my naive mind it sounds as though the physicists just invent their own types of phlogiston. It might be easier to understand if they called it all x, or perhaps 'damnedifiknowon'. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: PAW - Desert Winter
You just made an admirer two fold. One for the location, and two for your work. Simply amazing. ~Alejandro > > > This was taken in Bryce Canyon during the > > winter (hence the snow). > > > PZ-1p, Agfa Optima II 100 film, don't recall the lens. What really > > > attracted me was how well defined the snow line was. Comments are > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0127-80.htm > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Bruce
RE: Monitors
> Thanks, Amiti ... I'm looking for a CRT monitor, not an LCD > model. The Samsung SyncMaster 957MB is a CRT. I wouldn't use an LCD myself at this point.
RE: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test
They're just mad because Pentax lenses are superior to all the high priced, high falutin german made stuff... -Shawn -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test I just got the the lates issue of Fotomagasin. There is a test comparing all DSLR's. Ist D isn't doing too well: 145 points (max 200 possible). In fact, no other DSLR did worse. Best was Olympus E-1, Nikom D2H and Canon Eos 1Ds (175-176 points. This is odd because according to www.preview.com the Olympus (as an example) isn't doing quite as well. In fact not really better than the SONY DSC F717 as far as sharpness is concerned - in spite of the much larger sensor. Nikon D100 got only 159 points, Canon 10D; 162 points. I guess Fotomagasin doesn't like the SONY sensor, because D100 and Pentax *ist D got the lowest grades for reslution. Total Points: Olympus E-1 176 Nikon D2H176 Canon 1Ds175 Canon EOS 10D162 Nikon D100 159 Nikon D1X157 Fuji Finepix S2 Pro155 Sigma SD 10 152 Pentax *ist D145 Well, this German magasine never liked Pentax much! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: A tale of two cameras
No we don't... frank theriault wrote: Wah, waah, wah!! My Nikon's so heavy! My Canon's sooo heavy! My arms are sore. My neck and shoulders hurt! Waaahh!! We true Pentaxians feel so sorry for you turncoats... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A tale of two cameras Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:58:36 US/Eastern Hi Wendy. Thats a nice shot. I know what you mean about weight.Man the D1/D2H with the 80-200f2.8 gets heavy fast.Its balanced well but heavy.Glad to hear the Pentax and prime worked well.I may do the same and get the Pentax for personal use and for presentations at shows.Then i dont have to change lenses in windy dusty conditions or carry around two heavy cameras. The Nikon is not that great in low light conditions either.Sounds like Canon has that beat.Although my buddy has the 1d and i have features he wants and visa versa. I shot some of our riders in an indoor ring Sunday.ISO 1600 got me at best 400 th at f 2.8.Bad back light and its obviously grainy,but for 2x3 thumbnails for the show book,look fine.Panning helps to.I'm never sure how to WB these things.Cloudy for indoor or tungsten. Thank god for PS.lol Dave > Saturday was the Tibetan Terrier Show. Didn't get to take my group shot > after all. The show ended and most people buggered off. Penny, the > organiser, was most disappointed. She had been looking forward to having a > pic with 39 Tibetan terriers and their people. I was rather relieved! > Anyway, I was totally exhausted after standing around for 4 hours watching > little hairy dogs trotting around a ring and lifting a 10D with 70-200/2.8 > (IS/USM) attached. The other camera I had with me was the *istD with a > 77mm. What a beauty! That combo is absolutely fantastic and I love it to > death! The best photos of the day were with that pairing. Wide open and at > ISO 800 was pretty darn good! The only downside is that the low-light > focusing on the istD is crap! The Canon is miles better in that respect. > For handling and quality of photos, the Pentax won hands down. Who'd a > thought it! > > OTOH, handholding at 1/45s with an IS lens didn't turn out too bad > http://www.pbase.com/image/28822431 > > Wendy > > > Wendy Beard, > Ottawa, Canada > http://www.beard-redfern.com > > _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Spoleto
I like this a lot. The hint of the landscape with the brightly lit castle and aqueduct give the image a surreal quality. (I've been finding myself using the word surreal a lot lately, I'll have to watch that). Dario Bonazza wrote: Nice shot indeed. I believe you've caught the essence of the city. Here is another view of the Rocca Albornoziana, taken last night: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw03e.htm Ciao, Dario Bonazza - Original Message - From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: PAW: Spoleto Hi everybody, Unfortunately, due to an electrical problem occurred to my car yesterday, I missed the 9th Pentax Day in Spoleto... :-( I didn't feel comfortable to drive that far with the other car (a Punto, not exactly a new one) so I decided to quit *also* this time (third? PD in a row... sigh). I had been there recently, though, so I decided to share at least a pic from that trip: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349264&size=lg I chose this shot because it shows quite well the various levels of the town. The castle in the background is called Rocca Albornoziana and has been a prison until 1982. Comments are welcome as always. Ciao, Gianfranco = "To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage." ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover
Re: OT - where I deserve to be!
Cotty wrote: On 10/5/04, KIETH, discombobulated, offered: And here I thought you just loaded your shoulder snooper kit into one of your Land Rovers, turned on your cell phone, and drove off into the morning traffic... Seems there's a bit more to it than that, eh? Yeah, just a bit ;-) Any theme for your prison visit, or is it personal? Some feature on a Christian group in the prison - I'll find out when I get there. At least we're inside in case it's raining - can think of worse things to be doing! Raining? In the south of Britain? Surely you jest, Sir... Cheers, Cotty The only time that bothered me was one New Year's Eve, 1978, Trafalgar Square, around 10:45 PM, walking the very wet walks with my wife and 15 year old daughter and trying to get a taxi back to our flat in Kensington. My daughter kept saying, "I'm dying, Dad. No, really, I am. I am so cold I think I'm dying. No, really! I am!" Light drizzle and very wet, the cold got right into your bones. And of course, no cabbie was picking up fares on the street, that time of night, New Year's Eve. We finally did persuade one to stop, and got home alright. One of my fond memories of London, in the early days. keith
Re: how gravity works...
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:44:15 -0700 From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Basic "naturalism" could be simply defined as accepting only the > physical universe as real, disallowing any external "deity". > This is the presupposition. > > God is eternal and without cause, not a creation. Oh, he was a "creation" alright. Absolutely. Of people who needed a supreme being to feel comfortable. Being the total master of your fate is totally scary! If a people don't have a supreme being, they invent one... Ancient history is replete with that happening. Gods all over the place. Again a presupposition that is extended to all without presenting evidence. Comparative religion classes are full of problems. Among them is the most basic of fallacies, the hasty generalization. All we ask for is evidence. > The point of discussion is the origin of the observable universe. Yessir! > The current "big bang" theory and the new ideas attempting to supplant it > look to the eternality of matter/energy. They depend on something from > something else, not from nothing. (Or is there another presupposition > that I'm not familiar with?) Yeah, some fool wants us to believe that all the material the big bang scattered all over, well, it all came from some very, very small "singularity." Isn't that right? That's a wholly presumptive presupposition indeed! All we ask for is evidence. Forty years ago the "big bang" was pretty-much and unheard of thought. In another forty years it will be abandoned for something else. Not testable, not repeatable, not verifiable, and certainly not subject to disproof. The only thing that makes it "scientific" is because it is a concept that can work with observed data. More simple conjecture than workable theory. keith Collin
Re: Did you know... (*ist D and manual aperture)
Hello, best thing is it works with K lenses and spot metering. Martin DN> Well turns out it was all in the .pdf accompanying the 1.10 upgrade DN> anyway (but hey, who reads the manuals?) DN> http://pentaxusa.com/products/cameras/istd_fw111/istD_fw_111.pdf DN> Below is the relevant section from the notes at the end. The method that DN> they mention of holding DOF switch, fiddling aperture ring and pressing DN> green button for correct shutter speed is also quite handy. Now I really DN> feel I could use a K lens! (-: DN> "·When you activate depth-of-field preview (p.138 in the operating DN> manual), the DN> metering switch will also activate. DN> · If you press the green button when depth-of-field preview is DN> activated, the camera DN> will still select the appropriate shutter speed to obtain the correct DN> exposure. DN> · With depth-of-field preview activated, you can change the shutter DN> speed using the DN> Tv or Av dials. DN> · If you are using an SMC Pentax or SMC Pentax-M lens, the camera will use DN> center-weighted metering, even if multi-segment metering mode is selected." DN> David
Re: how gravity works...
At 19:01 2004.05.10 -0400, you wrote: Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:34:46 +0100 From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, >> >>I don't think you understand what 'scientific' means. While it may not [...] > and not the empirical, experimental one. So the student goes on to college > and is instructed in a new way of thinkng -- purported to be science -- > that is really a new philosophical construct. So Science is lost in Philosophy. [...] apparently you don't understand what philosophy is either! -- Cheers, Bob Popper is on your side but presents evidence my point. I was hoping we could get beyond the "I'm right so must be wrong" type of rhetoric. Collin
Re: Monitors
i think getting something with a Trinitron in it at the right size from a reputable brand name and use your calibration hardware/software on it is all that is really needed. the critical thing for a photographer is the color management. built-in color management hardware has its advantages. Trinitron tubes are good enough and monitors these days have super high refresh rates so that isn't a problem anymore. the major brands are mostly interchangeable except for the color management support. there are reputable alternatives to Trinitron picture tube monitors, but they tend to be expensive. i think that the Mitsubishi professional monitors with built-in color management hardware are a good value. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Monitors > I've priced some. The LaCie is affordable, the Sony Artisan is more than I > want to pay.
Re: Monitors
I've priced some. The LaCie is affordable, the Sony Artisan is more than I want to pay. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/10/2004 4:40:56 PM > Subject: Re: Monitors > > you've priced these, right? what's your budget? > > Herb > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:59 PM > Subject: OT: Monitors > > > > I'm looking for a high quality CRT monitor on which to do my Photoshop > > work. I've heard very good things about the LaCie Electronblue IV and the > > Sony Artisan, as well as a particular model of NEC, the model number of > > which escapes me right now. Has anyone any experience with these > monitors? > > Any recommendations for a high quality CRT monitor (Flat screen a must!) >
Re: PENTAX *ist D : Things to improve
On 11 May 2004 at 0:36, Nick Clark wrote: > Meter mode is as it is indicated by which control wheel is active. I didn't mean > ISO, just that you don't have to count stops to get bsck to your preferred > metering mode. True enough unless of course you've inadvertently bumped either thumb wheel sending the camera into hyper mode, but hell a touch of the green button will sort that. If I'm just selecting ISO I don't understand why we should be forced to reset the program mode, I've never had to do this with any other camera I've ever owned. So yes there is a way around everything just like waking up the rear screen which will show ISO and meter mode, but it could have been done better. The MZ- D did have a dedicated LCD on the rear showing ISO, whether it was illuminated though I guess we'll never know. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT - where I deserve to be!
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: OT - where I deserve to be! > > Some feature on a Christian group in the prison - You'all put your Christians in prisons? That seems a little harsh. William Robb
Re: A tale of two cameras
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: A tale of two cameras > Wah, waah, wah!! > > My Nikon's so heavy! > > My Canon's sooo heavy! > > My arms are sore. My neck and shoulders hurt! Waaahh!! > > We true Pentaxians feel so sorry for you turncoats... You won't feel sorry for her after she has used the thing for a couple of years, has muscled up like Arnie and snaps your pencil neck for mocking her. William Robb
Re: Monitors
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: OT: Monitors > I'm looking for a high quality CRT monitor on which to do my Photoshop > work. I am quite happy with my Samsung SyncMaster 955df . I think it is a .20 dot pitch, or some such. It seems to have very good colour is quite stable, and supports a 120hz refresh rate. It is a CRT flat screen. William Robb
RE: Monitors
> Any > recommendations for a high quality CRT monitor (Flat screen a must!) > Thanking you in advance for past favors Last December my husband got the Samsung SyncMaster 957MB, 19 inches, $300 from Amazon. It is very nearly a flat screen. He didn't go for true flat because he didn't want the two wires on the screen. Nate does a lot of PhotoShop work on the monitor and he loves it. Nice color and contrast. I like the Iiyama brand of monitors as well. I've been using one for almost 6 years. They're supposed to be as good as Sonys but they're quite expensive. Amita
RE: Vivitar 6000 Ring Flash
OK Christian let me know how you go! Cheers Shaun -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vivitar 6000 Ring Flash Rob and Shaun; The 6000 has a 52mm filter thread so no adapters are required for using the S1 105/2.5 Macro. It came with a stack of adapter rings as well (including 58mm), but none of my macro rigs (the 105 or the 200 w 100 bellows or 50 reversed) requires them so I have no experience with vignetting. I built an adapter using a rear-lens cap and filter ring to allow the ring light to screw into a reversed lens. I used a 52mm filter ring since that is the size of the threads on the flash.No examples of 2x or 4x with the flash. Haven't had the opportunity yet. I'll see what I can do this week or next, now that the bugs are out and about. Christian From: "Dr. Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Great shot Christian. The results are the sort of thing I am after as > well. However, can you get a 58mm thread adaptor for the 6000? > > Cheers > > Shaun AND: From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What about Vignetting, the image of the grasshopper seems to be OK and if I > understand correctly the flash has a native 49mm ring and the lens is 52mm? > Have you used it on any lenses with 58mm threads? > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 >
RE: Not a PAW - Sour Puss
You just have to click your heels three times, and repeat, "there's no film like colour, there's no film like colour...". Oops, I guess I should go amend that one. It was, of course, Agfa 400 colour neg film... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> perhaps you can explain how you got such vibrant colors from Agfa APX400. I can only get shades of grey when I use that film _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Vivitar 6000 Ring Flash
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Christian Skofteland wrote: > Yes, I've used the 6000 Ring flash quite a lot on the D. Here is an > example: http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id12.html Thanks for this. Was that taken with TTL, or tables? Kostas
RE: Brad Dodo
BRING IT ON, DUDE!! I'm not afraid of you. (name witheld by request) "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Brad Dodo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Brad Dodo Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 21:34:26 -0500 I saw the emails concerning me. I want you all to know I'm watching you. I know where you live and I'll be coming to visit you. Brad My dog has three ears. _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: PAW02: Vancouver guy
Hi Dario ... So, my first question is, what's the point of the photo? Is it supposed to represent two people at opposite political extremes, someone showing someone else a small item (maybe even using a tiny digicam to take a picture), or something else? The problem, you see, is that there's not enough information to clearly convey the story, whatever it may be. Technically it's pretty good, at least as far as exposure and "printing" goes. More background detail would provide a sense of place, needed information, and a canvas upon which the story could be better expressed. Moving further back, not cropping so tight, might give us more information as well, based upon the attire of the people, their stance, or other items in the scene. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/10/2004 2:49:35 PM > Subject: PAW02: Vancouver guy > > Does anybody from Vancouver know Ray? > http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw02e.htm > Comments welcome. > Ciao, > Dario
OT: Monitors
I'm looking for a high quality CRT monitor on which to do my Photoshop work. I've heard very good things about the LaCie Electronblue IV and the Sony Artisan, as well as a particular model of NEC, the model number of which escapes me right now. Has anyone any experience with these monitors? Any recommendations for a high quality CRT monitor (Flat screen a must!) Thanking you in advance for past favors Shel Belinkoff
Re: PAW - Desert Winter
LOvely shot and I envy you being there with the combination of snow and red earth Would like to see it titled on your web page - I'm kinda a non-fiddler when it comes to getting photos displayed on the web but were I to fiddle I'd darken the sky a bit or crop more of it out (in camera, a conkin split ND filter would have done it.) I've been at GC in winter but never Bryce, ZIon or Canyonlands :( annsan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Almost has a painting effect ot it,Bruce. > > Yes the snow lines are well defined and suits the photo well. > > Good one. > > Dave > > > This was taken in Bryce Canyon during the > winter (hence the snow). > > PZ-1p, Agfa Optima II 100 film, don't recall the lens. What really > > attracted me was how well defined the snow line was. Comments are > > welcome. > > > > > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0127-80.htm > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bruce > > > > > >
Re: Spoleto
Nice shot indeed. I believe you've caught the essence of the city. Here is another view of the Rocca Albornoziana, taken last night: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw03e.htm Ciao, Dario Bonazza - Original Message - From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: PAW: Spoleto > Hi everybody, > > Unfortunately, due to an electrical problem occurred to my car > yesterday, I missed the 9th Pentax Day in Spoleto... :-( > I didn't feel comfortable to drive that far with the other car > (a Punto, not exactly a new one) so I decided to quit *also* > this time (third? PD in a row... sigh). > I had been there recently, though, so I decided to share at > least a pic from that trip: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349264&size=lg > > I chose this shot because it shows quite well the various levels > of the town. The castle in the background is called Rocca > Albornoziana and has been a prison until 1982. > Comments are welcome as always. > > Ciao, > > Gianfranco > > = > "To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage." > > ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover >
PAW02: Vancouver guy
Does anybody from Vancouver know Ray? http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw02e.htm Comments welcome. Ciao, Dario
PAW03: Spoleto
http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw03e.htm Sort of a postcard this time, inspired by Gianco's Spoleto. Ciao, Dario
Re: how gravity works...
Comments within: Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Comments interspersed. Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:07:33 +0100 From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Fascinating thread. Yup. Sure is. Unfortunately all discussions of origins fall short of being "scientific". None of them can be stated in such a way as to allow for either measurable proof (scientific method) and hence no disprovability statement. They're not quantifiable, repeatable, or testable. Neither special creation nor Sagan's "the universe is all there is" principle have any real foundation in testability. I don't think you understand what 'scientific' means. While it may not be possible in practice to test some of the theories empirically, they are _in principle_ falsifiable, and it is certainly possible to show that they are logically consistent and follow from premises which _are_ testable empirically. Most other origin stories, myths or 'theories' are not falsifiable even in principle, let alone in practice; this is why 'creation science' is a contradiction in terms. [some good arguments snipped as being too long for inclusion.] Getting something from nothing is as inconceivable to the naturalist (who has no place for a creator to intervene) as the existence of anything without cause is inconceivable to the special creationist (who always looks for purpose). In fact it was so-called naturalists (whatever you mean by that) who _did_ conceive of something from nothing, so you are quite wrong there. And creationists do indeed conceive of something without cause - God. So you are quite wrong there too. Basic "naturalism" could be simply defined as accepting only the physical universe as real, disallowing any external "deity". This is the presupposition. God is eternal and without cause, not a creation. Oh, he was a "creation" alright. Absolutely. Of people who needed a supreme being to feel comfortable. Being the total master of your fate is totally scary! If a people don't have a supreme being, they invent one... Ancient history is replete with that happening. Gods all over the place. Amazing that all the characteristics of these beings are so incredibly similar! Just like the "world history" of any peoples, almost anywhere on the globe, is incredibly similar to the Christian bible's version. That alone blows one's mind away! Very interesting! Floods, pestilences, the whole thing... The point of discussion is the origin of the observable universe. Yessir! The current "big bang" theory and the new ideas attempting to supplant it look to the eternality of matter/energy. They depend on something from something else, not from nothing. (Or is there another presupposition that I'm not familiar with?) Yeah, some fool wants us to believe that all the material the big bang scattered all over, well, it all came from some very, very small "singularity." Isn't that right? That's a wholly presumptive presupposition indeed! How come the initiation point isn't the most sparsely populated part of the cosmos? All of it ought to have gone outward from that point source, and created a BIG spherical vacancy, no? I mean, I've never heard of that discussed. Other than a few quite thin spots here and there, the universe is reasonably well scattered, and more or less evenly spread out. And all observed bodies are moving away from each other, at an ever increasing speed... Hmmm. Lots of study time being spent figuring the source of THAT energy... That was _some_ impetus, to last all these 38 billion years, or whatever it is believed to be now. That mysterious (to me) "center void" ought to be getting bigger and bigger, no? If not, why not? Is stuff still being "created?" Ahhh, enough for now. keith This paradox should challenge the mind to be working through the issue rather than simply accepting any statement as the resolution of the issue. -- Cheers, Bob Good points, Collin
Re: PAW - Kids eating candy on a Sunday afternoon
It's in progress ... all the pics are up, the format is roughed out all in due time. Boris, why don't you quote at least part of the messages to which you refer. It would make it easier for those reading your posts to reply. It's a real PITA to have to close your message, find the message to which you're referring (if it's still available) and then go looking for the pictures. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/10/2004 11:31:32 AM > Subject: Re: PAW - Kids eating candy on a Sunday afternoon > > Hi! > > Shel, why don't you make a web page where all photos of this series > would be presented in some manner? > > Seriously?!
Re: Not exactly a PAW ... WARNING: Cute kid pic
Boris, This was a test roll, using an unfamiliar camera. I shot 36 exposures in about ten minutes, not looking for art. Just looking to see how the camera and I teamed up and handled different situations. As for why I didn't crop it after the fact, I just didn't feel like it. The pic was actually destined for someone else, and, since it was already cropped and treated as i wanted my friend to see it, I left it as is. It's not a PAW, it's not a final piece ... just one of several test frames in which the reflection, initially, was a part of the test. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/10/2004 11:36:28 AM > Subject: Re: Not exactly a PAW ... WARNING: Cute kid pic > > Hi! > > Shel, I realize you hadn't much time. Still, after the deed , > perhaps cropping off the reflection of the car could be considered. > > Alternatively, mind if I ask you why didn't you crop off the car > reflection? > > Boris > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: Monopods
> That is the one that I usually use. As for heads, I > use the 3229 with quick release - It is small, light, > inexpensive and gets the job done. Generally for most > movements (other than vertical) I just move the pod a bit. > So only when shooting vertical do I have to adjust the head. > Works great for me. I have the 3006 monopod - light and sturdy. I just got the 3229 QR head for it as well. Having that swivel ability makes all the difference. Amita
PAW: Sign of the Times ?
With the ever increasing cost of gasoline I wonder if we'll be seeing more of these signs springing up in North America. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2352258 The area in southern Ontario where I live has a fairly large Old Order Mennonite population. The Old Order Mennonites, like the Amish, shun modern conveniences such as cars and prefer to use horse and buggies. The operator of this Home depot store has provided a barn/shelter for them to park their horses and buggies whilst shopping. Just struck me as an interesting sign, not one seen every day. Taken with my Optio 33L. -- Fred Widall, PeopleSoft Developer, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall --
Re: how gravity works...
Quite. Mathematics is a tool - a language for discussing, describing, and deducing. In itself it says nothing about the concepts being discussed. It's not a model - it's the language we use to describe the model. Some other hypothetical intelligence probably wouldn't use exactly the same language we do, but it would be relatively straightforward to come up with a way of translating between the two languages. "one plus one equals two" isn't a statement open to verification; it's a definition of the operation of addition - a verb in the language of mathematics. Of course you need to define "one" and "two" as well. That's actually quite a bit harder to do in an unambiguous fashion, and you need to get into some fairly advanced concepts. But it can be done. > I venture to suggest that some might disagree with this, but I will leave > it to others better qualified to do so. > > John > > On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:07:27 -0500, William Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > On Monday, May 10, 2004, at 10:51 AM, Bob W waxed: > > > >> Hi, > >>> > >> > >> surely the purpose of mathematics is to remove this dependency. There > >> are almost certainly things that our minds cannot comprehend that > >> other minds could, in just the same way that there are things we can > >> comprehend that dogs and chimpanzees cannot. But mathematics and logic > >> allow us to explore ideas that are otherwise beyond our grasp. They > >> allow us to take ideas that we *can* grasp and stretch them beyond our > >> limitations, while keeping them consistent. This is why they seem > >> weird to us. But to schoolchildren on the planet Tralfamadore they may > >> be no weirder than building blocks are to human children. > >> > >> -- Cheers, > >> Bob > > > > As we wax philisophically, I would like to note that Math is an > > invention of humans. Sure, we can apply math to natural phenomenon, but > > this makes it no less of a model that describes a portion of the > > universe any more than quantum physics, or any other theory for that > > matter. Just a thought, not a criticism or a comment. > > > > IL Bill > > > > > > > > -- > Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ >
RE: Monopods
I have felt tempted to buy the automatic monopod 334B and the 234RC tilt head (or I could use my 141RC), because of the quick action option, for nature photography. It's rather expensive, though. Appr. 100 USD here (excl head). The Manfrotto monopod page is here: http://www.manfrotto.com/product/itemlist.php3?manufid=1§ionid=14 Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. maj 2004 23:01 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Monopods Hiya, I have not used the monopods you have listed, but I do have the Manfrotto 682B, and I like it. The only problem is that the tripod legs clank inside the body when I use it as a walking stick (and who doesn't?). It gets annoying and attracts too much attention. I bought the rubber spike and carry the tripod legs in my cam. bag. I use the 484RC2 ball head with great success. It's strong enough to hold up my Sigma 135-400mm (with the tripod legs attached). Hope this helps in some way. Hasta la Vista, Alejandro > Hey, > > I know we've had the monopod discussion before, but two questions: > > 1. I'm buying a Manfrotto, and I'm trying to decide between the 681 > and the 3216/18. Any real difference? > > 2. Any particular head you might recommend, or have you found it easy > to go without? > > Thanks. Feel free to contact me off-list.
Re: Monopods
Hi Steven. I use the Manfrotto 681/n30 (but i always thought it was an 028,but thats whats stamped on the frame) with 481 rc2 ball head. Leg is sturdy,no clanking sounds if used as a walking stick and the head holds my D2H and 80-200 f 2,8 combo well. Hop ethat helps > Hey, > > I know we've had the monopod discussion before, but two questions: > > 1. I'm buying a Manfrotto, and I'm trying to decide between the 681 > and the 3216/18. Any real difference? > > 2. Any particular head you might recommend, or have you found it easy > to go without? > > Thanks. Feel free to contact me off-list. > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: PAW: Do not disturb
På 8. mai. 2004 kl. 00.22 skrev frank theriault: Really, Dag? You hate hotel rooms? I love 'em. Probably because I've not been in all that many of them. When I'm in one, it means I'm on vacation (I've never had to travel for business). This was a business trip, last weekend :-) I get to bring beer and chips up to the room, and lie down on the bed, and watch TV and eat and drink. Then, someone comes in the next morning to clean it all up. Does life get any better than that? I think not! I can think of something! Something involving company... I really like your photo, btw. It's bare and austere, like many hotel rooms. Almost monochrome, except for that yellow ticket. Beautiful compostion. Lovely use of the reflection in the mirror - you've got 1/2 the door in the mirror and 1/2 the mirror is "clear". It's all so clinical and without soul. If hotels fill you with despair and emptiness, then that's what you caught in this photo. Great shot!! Thanks, with three small children at home I hate going away, especially to this kind of places, so I guess I succeeded. Thanks! From: Dag T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Do not disturb Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 22:52:57 +0200 I hate hotel rooms... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2342795&size=lg :-) DagT _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: how gravity works...
I venture to suggest that some might disagree with this, but I will leave it to others better qualified to do so. John On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:07:27 -0500, William Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday, May 10, 2004, at 10:51 AM, Bob W waxed: Hi, surely the purpose of mathematics is to remove this dependency. There are almost certainly things that our minds cannot comprehend that other minds could, in just the same way that there are things we can comprehend that dogs and chimpanzees cannot. But mathematics and logic allow us to explore ideas that are otherwise beyond our grasp. They allow us to take ideas that we *can* grasp and stretch them beyond our limitations, while keeping them consistent. This is why they seem weird to us. But to schoolchildren on the planet Tralfamadore they may be no weirder than building blocks are to human children. -- Cheers, Bob As we wax philisophically, I would like to note that Math is an invention of humans. Sure, we can apply math to natural phenomenon, but this makes it no less of a model that describes a portion of the universe any more than quantum physics, or any other theory for that matter. Just a thought, not a criticism or a comment. IL Bill -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Monopods
Hiya, I have not used the monopods you have listed, but I do have the Manfrotto 682B, and I like it. The only problem is that the tripod legs clank inside the body when I use it as a walking stick (and who doesn't?). It gets annoying and attracts too much attention. I bought the rubber spike and carry the tripod legs in my cam. bag. I use the 484RC2 ball head with great success. It's strong enough to hold up my Sigma 135-400mm (with the tripod legs attached). Hope this helps in some way. Hasta la Vista, Alejandro > Hey, > > I know we've had the monopod discussion before, but two questions: > > 1. I'm buying a Manfrotto, and I'm trying to decide between the 681 > and the 3216/18. Any real difference? > > 2. Any particular head you might recommend, or have you found it easy > to go without? > > Thanks. Feel free to contact me off-list.
Re: Not a PAW - Sour Puss
The decisive moment, Frank, for both of you. Nice pic. John On Sun, 09 May 2004 19:44:27 -0400, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My daughter Claire and I went to the corner store, and bought some penny-candy (which now cost a nickel, BTW...). We bought some things called "Warheads", which are incredibly sour for the first few seconds: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851 cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Monday evening (in Switzerland) survey - have you ever made self portraits
Markus Maurer wrote: 1 have you ever made self portraits ? Yes 2 If yes , serious ore funny ones, did you choose a theme ? Funny. No theme. 3 If no, why not? I take them when I'm bored and there's a nearby reflective surface. Or does that count as a theme? :-) 4 How did you do it, with a remote control or the build in self timer ? Only with mirrors :-) S
Re: Monopods
Hello Steve, I have a 3016 - 3 section and a 680B - 4 section. The 4 section has thicker legs and seems to be very slightly more rigid. That is the one that I usually use. As for heads, I use the 3229 with quick release - It is small, light, inexpensive and gets the job done. Generally for most movements (other than vertical) I just move the pod a bit. So only when shooting vertical do I have to adjust the head. Works great for me. HTH, Bruce Monday, May 10, 2004, 12:04:57 PM, you wrote: SD> Hey, SD> I know we've had the monopod discussion before, but two questions: SD> 1. I'm buying a Manfrotto, and I'm trying to decide between the 681 SD> and the 3216/18. Any real difference? SD> 2. Any particular head you might recommend, or have you found it easy SD> to go without? SD> Thanks. Feel free to contact me off-list. SD> Steven Desjardins SD> Department of Chemistry SD> Washington and Lee University SD> Lexington, VA 24450 SD> (540) 458-8873 SD> FAX: (540) 458-8878 SD> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAW: Do not disturb
På 7. mai. 2004 kl. 22.05 skrev Boris Liberman: Hi! Dag, this photo leaves me indifferent. I don't travel much and hence I don't have any particular feelings towards hotels and rooms therein ... So I suppose I should say this photo does not work for me... That´s OK, I can understand why... DagT
Re: PAW #8 Play
På 8. mai. 2004 kl. 21.08 skrev Boris Liberman: Dag, you're very creative. Thank you :-) Sometimes I think I should concentrate more on one theme Nonetheless , I do think that foot (yours?) in the right bottom corner does not belong... Well, I don´t think I agree. I liked the small hint of a story. It is his little brother, by the way... DagT
Re: PAW: Do not disturb
På 7. mai. 2004 kl. 19.10 skrev Ann Sanfedele: Dag T wrote: I hate hotel rooms... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2342795&size=lg :-) DagT Me too! However, I have a kinda charming counterpart to yours - that is, probably something you would find more appealing and shot with the same kind of geometry , so to speak - I'll try to PAW it soon, but I'm buried under a pile of household problems at the moment. :-) I know some nice hotel rooms too, especially in small french villages. But I usually don´t get that kind on business trips. I like the shot -but womdering if you did a horizontal take on it too -- with maybe a bit more to the right and without the soft focus whatever it is in the left hand corner... The bag (the thing in the corner) was put there to make the rest even more sterile. I didn´t get a horisontal shot, the composition didn´t fit, and I would have needed a wider lens. I really look forward to the 14mm... Thanks for commenting! DagT
Re: PAW #10 - First cooperation
Thanks! And of course, we will continue playing. DagT På 7. mai. 2004 kl. 22.28 skrev Boris Liberman: Hi! Dag, your son should be encouraged. He has a point here ... Let us see more of fruits of your cooperation. The start is quite promising. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Monday evening (in Switzerland) survey - have you ever made self portraits
> 1 have you ever made self portraits ? Several times. :D > 2 If yes , serious or funny ones, did you choose a theme ? Both serious and funny. Theme 1: "My acoustic guitar and me" Theme 2: "My hats and me : A Life Journey" > 3 If no, why not? NA > 4 How did you do it, with a remote control or the build in self timer ? 3 methods: 1. cable release 2. Self Timer 3. The clapper. "Clap on! Clap off! The clapper!" number 3 is my favorite. ;) Saludos, Alejandro
Re: how gravity works...
On Monday, May 10, 2004, at 10:51 AM, Bob W waxed: Hi, surely the purpose of mathematics is to remove this dependency. There are almost certainly things that our minds cannot comprehend that other minds could, in just the same way that there are things we can comprehend that dogs and chimpanzees cannot. But mathematics and logic allow us to explore ideas that are otherwise beyond our grasp. They allow us to take ideas that we *can* grasp and stretch them beyond our limitations, while keeping them consistent. This is why they seem weird to us. But to schoolchildren on the planet Tralfamadore they may be no weirder than building blocks are to human children. -- Cheers, Bob As we wax philisophically, I would like to note that Math is an invention of humans. Sure, we can apply math to natural phenomenon, but this makes it no less of a model that describes a portion of the universe any more than quantum physics, or any other theory for that matter. Just a thought, not a criticism or a comment. IL Bill
Re: PAW: Spoleto
Bad luck, Gianco. Nice picture of Spolento, though. I love three-dimensional towns, and you've captured the sense of that very well. John On Sun, 9 May 2004 13:03:43 -0700 (PDT), Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everybody, Unfortunately, due to an electrical problem occurred to my car yesterday, I missed the 9th Pentax Day in Spoleto... :-( I didn't feel comfortable to drive that far with the other car (a Punto, not exactly a new one) so I decided to quit *also* this time (third? PD in a row... sigh). I had been there recently, though, so I decided to share at least a pic from that trip: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349264&size=lg I chose this shot because it shows quite well the various levels of the town. The castle in the background is called Rocca Albornoziana and has been a prison until 1982. Comments are welcome as always. Ciao, Gianfranco = âTo read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage.â ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Monopods
Hey, I know we've had the monopod discussion before, but two questions: 1. I'm buying a Manfrotto, and I'm trying to decide between the 681 and the 3216/18. Any real difference? 2. Any particular head you might recommend, or have you found it easy to go without? Thanks. Feel free to contact me off-list. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Monday evening (in Switzerland) survey - have you ever made self portraits
Since I got so much answers on my last surveys, here is another one: 1 have you ever made self portraits ? 2 If yes , serious ore funny ones, did you choose a theme ? 3 If no, why not? 4 How did you do it, with a remote control or the build in self timer ? thanks and readers of my last email know why I ask! Markus (in a yellow grey striped Sing-Sing night dress)
RE: Not a PAW - Sour Puss
Hi Frank nice moment (for us) but the most important question is: Will she try "Warheads" again and did she enjoy the sweet rest of the first after the sour part... Looks like an interesting party present for close friends and snapshots! well done Markus > > bought some things called "Warheads", which are incredibly > > sour for the first few seconds: > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851
Re: Arriving early? GFM stuff
Bill Owens wrote: > > Have a camera ready. Steve is located in some beautiful country. Part of > the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. There's no place in the USA that is > prettier. > > Bill I know it well... (and I SHALl have camera ready at all times) Been up and down Rt 11 and 81 a bunch of times by car and across dem mountains that run along there :) GFM about the only place I haven't been -- although I probably WAS there as a child - my father was born in Atlanta and we travelled a lot in the 40's ann > > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: Arriving early? GFM stuff > > > Bill Owens wrote: > > > > > > > Bill - looking like I'll get there THursday night, > > > > too - > > > > details at 11 - wait no - details before 11 :) > > > > > > Good, looking forward to it > > > > Actually, it is about 11 now --- > > All set for Steve D to collect me at buena Vista > > (6 miles from him) > > at 3 pm on Thursday the 3rd... > > > > NIce to have things falling into place > > > > Best, > > ann > > > > > > > > > ann > > > > > > > > nice wedding glass shot! but butis that BEER in > > > > them glasses??? > > > > > > I'm not sure, but it's probably non-alcoholic. The bride is on > medication > > > for lyme disease and cannot drink alcohol. Personally, I like the > different > > > colors in the photo. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, me too (re the colors... > > > >
Re: how gravity works...
På 10. mai. 2004 kl. 14.14 skrev Cotty: Also, could an anti-gravity drive work by simply blocking that exchange of gravitons. Stay tuned for further announcements. :) Possibly. But what would you build the blocking screen from? Easy. Deck plates from the Enterprise. No, no, this is the wrong approach. Consider what we know: Time slows down under heavy gravity, it has even been measured at different altitudes on earth. So, if we make time go faster, we should weaken gravity. What makes time go faster? Having fun! So, by having a great time you levitate. We all know that is true! You should try it at GFM! DagT
Re: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test
Are the ratings by any chance based upon how many pages of ad space the company buys per year? I can not believe they come from actually using the cameras. -- Jens Bladt wrote: I just got the the lates issue of Fotomagasin. There is a test comparing all DSLR's. Ist D isn't doing too well: 145 points (max 200 possible). In fact, no other DSLR did worse. Best was Olympus E-1, Nikom D2H and Canon Eos 1Ds (175-176 points. This is odd because according to www.preview.com the Olympus (as an example) isn't doing quite as well. In fact not really better than the SONY DSC F717 as far as sharpness is concerned - in spite of the much larger sensor. Nikon D100 got only 159 points, Canon 10D; 162 points. I guess Fotomagasin doesn't like the SONY sensor, because D100 and Pentax *ist D got the lowest grades for reslution. Total Points: Olympus E-1 176 Nikon D2H176 Canon 1Ds175 Canon EOS 10D162 Nikon D100 159 Nikon D1X157 Fuji Finepix S2 Pro155 Sigma SD 10 152 Pentax *ist D145 Well, this German magasine never liked Pentax much! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: OT: Wages and foreign exchange rates
No I used to live in a poor area of the US, SE Michigan, but I moved down here where the pay is a bit lower, but you can actually find work. BTW, the $2.35 is nation wide minimum, in most areas maximum, wage for jobs that are supposed to get tips. It has not gone up in something like 20 years. What is minimum wage for non-tip earners nowadays? $5.75? Tell me how many of you on this list can live off of $230 week here in the US today? I am living off less, but I am also on assistance which is paying a good chunk of my cheap rent, and my medical expenses which is what keeps me here as I would have to make about 3-4x minimum wage to be able to afford the medical coverage I get from Medicaid. Of course, after working 40 years you would expect my Social Security would cover at least all my basic expenses, but it does not. Now think of what it would be like trying to raise a family at those wages. And that $8 an hour AnnSan mentioned is quite good wages here in Boone unless you are one of those doctors, lawyers, or college professors I mentioned in my original post. Plus there are 15000 college kids competing for those jobs, which is part of why the wages are so low, as all they are looking for is pocket money. I used to be in the skilled trades and made a decent living at least when I was working on union jobs. But now I am myself down there at the bottom. I now understand that the people stuck there are not there by choice. With effort I could probably climb back up, but many of those who are in similar economic situations have no possibility of changing their lives for the better. And, BTW, I can actually eat at the fast food places cheaper than I can at home though I have to stick to the value menu and that gets tiresome real quick. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graywolf, Be fair now, before you give our foreign visitors a bad impression. You are living in one of the poorest parts of the USA. In fact, about 90% of the US population has enough extra income to eating out at McDonald's when they want. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: PAW: Venice Beach Compressed
Yes, but "Muscle" is listed on the restaurant's outdoor menu! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Venice Beach has an outdoor gym that's devoted mainly to weight lifting. It's the current version of the old "Muscle Beach" of movie and California pop culture fame. The original site was in Santa Monica, a coupleof miles up the beach. I just noticed the menu on the outdoor poster. What kid of "Muscle ..." do they sell in Venice Beach?
Re: A tale of two cameras
> Bill Robb said: > - Original Message - > > Now you know why I think these monster cams are the wrong tool for > wedding photographers. When I was in the game, I had to carry a > camera with a large flash around for about 6 hours. Maybe things have > changed in the 5 years or so since I got out of wedding photography, > though I doubt it. > > William Robb I doubt it too Bill. I finally resorted to monopod when doing " official " shows but just doing a PJ style of horse pictures when not.Thats when i gets heavy. lol Most show photog's know me, that i'm not a threat, and let me do my thing and go home.One hates me, so the PJ style is needed.No time to hoist the 'pod just up and shoot,then hide. :-) Dave BTW all fof my wedding jobs(4) were done with SP500 or K1000 or SP. My neices will be done with the PZ-1. > >
Re: how gravity works...
> > Hey, I've got an application for phonons ... I want a tight-beam > > loudspeaker so I can blast just the idiot whose car stereo is > > drowning out my television when he stops at a red light and not > > hit my neighbours as collateral damage. If I can convince the > > sound waves to exhibit their particle nature and corral them into > > travelling in a nice straight line together ... > > Coherent sound waves? > Seems to me I recently read about this happening, and the article > described a military use for it, for disabling troops with > unbearable sound intensity... Maybe in Science News? Discovery Magazine? Simplified version: 1. Build large scale capacitors (Leyden Jars). 2. Wire them in parallel. 3. Connect them to a switch, and an inductor. 4. Shield all electrical equipment you don't want damaged. 5. Hit the switch. When the circuit is closed, the current will run threw the inductor, inducing a great magnetic field. This field will be so large, that it will induce current on the wires of electronic devices thus frying electronic components. I may have missed a few steps, but that is the basic idea. Have fun! ~Alejandro
PAW - Jens Bladt
Just a flower on a tree - Appleblossom. SONY DSC F717, f8, 1/125 sec. (0.3 minus correction), a tripod and a little rain. http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4389319.html All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: Vivitar 6000 Ring Flash
Rob and Shaun; The 6000 has a 52mm filter thread so no adapters are required for using the S1 105/2.5 Macro. It came with a stack of adapter rings as well (including 58mm), but none of my macro rigs (the 105 or the 200 w 100 bellows or 50 reversed) requires them so I have no experience with vignetting. I built an adapter using a rear-lens cap and filter ring to allow the ring light to screw into a reversed lens. I used a 52mm filter ring since that is the size of the threads on the flash.No examples of 2x or 4x with the flash. Haven't had the opportunity yet. I'll see what I can do this week or next, now that the bugs are out and about. Christian From: "Dr. Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Great shot Christian. The results are the sort of thing I am after as > well. However, can you get a 58mm thread adaptor for the 6000? > > Cheers > > Shaun AND: From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What about Vignetting, the image of the grasshopper seems to be OK and if I > understand correctly the flash has a native 49mm ring and the lens is 52mm? > Have you used it on any lenses with 58mm threads? > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 >
Re: PAW - Dog Show
Cyoot :-) S wendy beard wrote: As that's where I was all day on Saturday, here's one of the pics. http://www.pbase.com/image/28821195/large Wendy Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: how gravity works...
> > Hi, > > > Also remember that scientific theories exit in only in the minds of > > people. Presumably there exists some correlation with the actual way > > nature works, but we will only know the way our mind presents the > > universe to us. > > surely the purpose of mathematics is to remove this dependency. There > are almost certainly things that our minds cannot comprehend that > other minds could, in just the same way that there are things we can > comprehend that dogs and chimpanzees cannot. But mathematics and logic > allow us to explore ideas that are otherwise beyond our grasp. They > allow us to take ideas that we *can* grasp and stretch them beyond our > limitations, while keeping them consistent. This is why they seem > weird to us. But to schoolchildren on the planet Tralfamadore they may > be no weirder than building blocks are to human children. So it goes. See also "Mimsy were the Borogoves", by Henry Kuttner, for another good story based on a similar possibility.
RE: City Hall
Beautiful shot. A little more people on the pavemnet woudn't hurt, though?! Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. maj 2004 18:04 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: City Hall I think it works great as is. Nice composition with the wall on the right, etc. Good shot. Christian - Original Message - From: "Boros Attila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: PAW: City Hall > After several bad photos of this infamous subject, I think I have > found an interesting viewpoint. The photo was taken shortly before > sunset, so I got some nice colored clouds, but the photo overall is > rather dark. I have tried to lighten it up just a bit, but it ruined > the mood, so I left it as it was. > > http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/paw/cityhall.jpg > > Comments and suggestions wellcome. > > Attila > >
RE: A tale of two cameras
Well, They you know say - like dog like master! Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. maj 2004 19:39 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: A tale of two cameras I really like the comedic flavor of this photo! I don't know if that was your intention, but it made me laugh. Thank you. ~Alejandro > > OTOH, handholding at 1/45s with an IS lens didn't turn out too bad > > http://www.pbase.com/image/28822431 > > > > Wendy
Re: A tale of two cameras
I really like the comedic flavor of this photo! I don't know if that was your intention, but it made me laugh. Thank you. ~Alejandro > > OTOH, handholding at 1/45s with an IS lens didn't turn out too bad > > http://www.pbase.com/image/28822431 > > > > Wendy
Re: how gravity works...
> It's funny how things work in SciFi. Some authors are much better at > getitng the reader to suspend disbelief and buy into something that is > totally beyond what we actualy think we understand. Well, there's Space Opera (as written by E.E. 'Doc' Smith), which introduces new concepts with wild abandon just to get to the next cliffhanger ending, and then there's the hard science school of Science Fiction (as exemplified by Asimov or Niven) who will take a single 'suspension of disbelief' idea and run with it, extrapolating a whole new setting based on just that one concept (plus, often, FTL travel via hyperspace - just taken for granted). If the author has thought through the idea, and come up with reasonable explanations (or even further plot developments) based on the most common objections that a knowledgeable reader might raise, it's going to be a great deal easier to buy into that author's version of the way things work.
RE: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test
Sylwek Actually, The Olympus does quite well compared to Canon D10. Not quite as sharp though. And much more noice. dpreview tested it agains Sony DSC F717 too, which actually does very well in spite of the smaller sensor in this pro-sumer 5 MP SONY (which I BTW own and enjoy using. I am expecting the *ist D to be significantly better - should I ever get one :-). Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. maj 2004 09:47 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Pentax * ist D doing badly in Fotomagazin test on 10.05.04 7:33, Jens Bladt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just got the the lates issue of Fotomagasin. There is a test comparing all > DSLR's. Ist D isn't doing too well: 145 points (max 200 possible). In fact, > no other DSLR did worse. Best was Olympus E-1, Nikom D2H and Canon Eos 1Ds > (175-176 points. > This is odd because according to www.preview.com the Olympus (as an example) > isn't doing quite as well. In fact not really better than the SONY DSC F717 > as far as sharpness is concerned - in spite of the much larger sensor. Nikon > D100 got only 159 points, Canon 10D; 162 points. I guess Fotomagasin doesn't > like the SONY sensor, because D100 and Pentax *ist D got the lowest grades > for reslution. It seems that according to FotoMagazin E-1 is better than Canon 1Ds :-))) Well, their tests were often controversial. For instance when they tested low cost SLRs two years ago, they gave Nikon F65 more points for features than MZ-6 (ZX-L).It is enough to look at smome specificatios of both cameras to know that N65 s much less capable than MZ-6 - no spot metering, no Custom Functions, no HSS flash, shutter speed 1/2000 (vs 1/4000)... I'll leave such a "tests" without comments. Otherwise I haven't seen a single test, where E-1 would have better picture quality than *istD. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: PAW - Kids eating candy on a Sunday afternoon
Shel, I like the composition of this photo! Strange that two of the kids have coats and the other two don't. I have but one concern, my eye keeps being distracted by the bright car in the background. Does anyone else think this or am I crazy? I still like the photo, Alejandro > The kids are back. Here they are lined up outside the little bodega > in San Francisco's Mission District, chewing their candy bars and, > as usual, looking in all directions. > > Frankly, I don't care that much for the editing on this one, but I > was too far into it to just toss it as a failure. Comments and crits > most welcome. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/kids_eating_candy.html > > Shel Belinkoff
