PESO - Rainbow

[Bruce Dayton]

This was taken recently on a photo outing with my middle daughter.  I
used the Yellow/Blue Polarizer to enhance the small rainbow showing at
the bottom of the water falling.

Comments welcome.



Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Tripod, Cokin Yellow/Blue Polarizer
ISO 200, 21mm focal length, 1/8 sec @ F19.0

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1010.htm


Converted from Raw to Tiff in C1 - levels adjustment in PictureWindow
Pro - converted to jpg and sized/sharpened for the web.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce

Re: PESO -- Simple Sunset

[Bruce Dayton]

I have to say that I rather like this.  Probably not something I would
have thought of taking, but it's kind of nice to see mostly grays
instead of strong orange/yellow/reds.  It has a somber, end of day
feel to it.

Thanks for sharing with us.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, February 10, 2005, 6:54:02 PM, you wrote:

PJA> Nothing very special just a pleasant photo.  Possibly a bit to much
PJA> contrast.

PJA> http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_simplesunset.html

PJA> Technical Detail:

PJA> Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/90sec
PJA> SMC-Pentax M 85mm f2.0 @ f2.0

PJA> I really miss the grid screen in my LX...

RE: PESO: Automaton

[Rob Studdert]

On 10 Feb 2005 at 20:58, Isaac wrote:

> Bummer. I would have liked one. Cheap lenses and a nice feel would make me
> happy. I haven't liked the digitals I've tried so far. Not enough control
> and horrible optics on most of them. That's why I'm back to film.

The *ist D and *ist Ds have pretty decent optics (if you so desire :-)


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Re: PESO -- Simple Sunset

[Alan Chan]

--- "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I really miss the grid screen in my LX...

Just take any Pentax grid screen and do some sawing and filing work will do. I 
know
a DS owner did the same and worked.

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Re: Disappointment at the Lab / Questions to Ask of New Lab

[Alan Chan]

--- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately finding a decent lab can be a painful process, ask too little 
> and 
> you'll get fobbed off, be too direct and you'll get the stare. I think these 
> days the people are the key, most processes can be made to deliver quality 
> product but if the people are slack it doesn't matter what equipment they 
> use. 
> Best of luck.

Exactly, the machines they use don't really matter that much. Here in Vancouver 
I
have tried a few so-called pro labs and their quality vary a lot. One with 
excellent
prints often suffers from dust spot on prints and badly scratched developed
negatives. One with substandard print quality does excellent developing when 
they
were in the mood, but sometimes with scratches and spots which are impossible to
remove. Another one which is consistent on C41 & E6 developing, does blurry matt
prints but super vivid sharp gloss prints (too vivid for my taste). But guess 
what,
the one I like most is a small lab which is consistent on both C41 developing 
and
machine printing. It is not a pro lab but the owner does excellent studio 
portraits
which is also part of his service. And the best of all, the prints will always 
be
ready in 1 hour.

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Re: Velvia 100

[Alan Chan]

--- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hope this Velvia 100 does make it to the US. A
> different color pallet from 100F is encouraging  to
> read. If resolution should approach that of the 50, my
> Provia 100F might have a some competition even though
> Fuji claims Provia 100F, also, has a finer grain than
> Velvia.

According to the pdf spec, all 3 RVP have the same resolution which is slighty
higher than the RDP3.

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Re: Disappointment at the Lab / Questions to Ask of New Lab

[Rob Studdert]

On 10 Feb 2005 at 18:43, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>  What should I ask about their processing and equipment?  What kind of 
> responses
> are good?  If they tell me that they use such and such a machine, or that it's
> calibrated in some particular way, what the hell do I know?
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Unfortunately finding a decent lab can be a painful process, ask too little and 
you'll get fobbed off, be too direct and you'll get the stare. I think these 
days the people are the key, most processes can be made to deliver quality 
product but if the people are slack it doesn't matter what equipment they use. 
Best of luck.


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Re: Velvia 100

[Jack Davis]

Hope this Velvia 100 does make it to the US. A
different color pallet from 100F is encouraging  to
read. If resolution should approach that of the 50, my
Provia 100F might have a some competition even though
Fuji claims Provia 100F, also, has a finer grain than
Velvia.

Jack

  
--- Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Henri wrote:
> 
> 
> > Fuji has apparently released a new film, called
> Velvia 100 (not to be 
> > confused with 100F).
> > According to the press release it has finer grain
> than 50, at twice the 
> > speed.
> > Next year Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves.
> 
> 
> 
> This film was released a couple of years ago along
> with the Velvia 100F and Astia 100F. I doubt Velvia
> 50 will be gone from the shelves next year as the
> Velvia 100 doesn't have a remotely similar color
> palette.
> 
> Pål
> 
> 
> 




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Disappointment at the Lab / Questions to Ask of New Lab

[Shel Belinkoff]

I've been using a couple of local labs here for a while for color
processing, and overall their work has been quite good.  Lately, however,
the film has been coming back badly spotted, scratched, and with what
appear to be water stains.  My camping experience is no longer a happy one.
These labs have been using the dip-n-dunk process, for what that's worth.  

I've mentioned the problem and have gotten free processing as a result, but
I'd much rather pay the money and get better results.  I'm going to start
looking for a new lab or two.  So, to all you lab gurus out there, my plan
is to check out the possibilities and ask a lot of question. 
Unfortunately, I don't know much about what questions to ask,  and I
wouldn't know what answers to look for.  What should I ask about their
processing and equipment?  What kind of responses are good?  If they tell
me that they use such and such a machine, or that it's calibrated in some
particular way, what the hell do I know?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Shel 

Re: Refconverter A and a MX

[Alan Chan]

--- Pawel Bartuzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to ask refconverter A owners here on the list: does your 
> refconverter stay at 90 angle in relation to a camera back or does it go 
> down a little?

I think it does. Mine look straight up when mounted on Z-1p which was put on the
table.

> Also, when looking with x2 magnification I see 
> that the center of a frame (the split image) is not centered in the 
> refconverter but rather in a lower part of the refconverters field of 
> view. Is it normal?

Mine does that too.

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Re: PESO: Automaton

[Tom C]

Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital back for the 
K and M series.  You can't forget about that.

Tom C.

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:36:56 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Eric Featherstone"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


. I'm strictly amateur, a K1000 user
for the last 15 or so years though I've also got hold of an MX and ME 
super lately.
I used K-1000s for many years as a wedding camera.
I have a lot of respect for those suckers.
The ME-Super is a nice little camera, and the MX is well regarded.
Buy lenses now, you have enough cameras.
William Robb

RE: PESO: Automaton

[Isaac]

There is a digital back for the K series? Where is that found at? And how
much?

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:57 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


> Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital 
> back for the K and M series.  You can't forget about that.

Lenses are truly where it's at.
You can never have too many lenses..

William Robb 

PESO -- Simple Sunset

[Peter J. Alling]

Nothing very special just a pleasant photo.  Possibly a bit to much 
contrast.

http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_simplesunset.html
Technical Detail:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/90sec
SMC-Pentax M 85mm f2.0 @ f2.0
I really miss the grid screen in my LX...
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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[Mark Roberts]

Kenneth Waller wrote:

> BTW, please define 'substandard'.

It's the minimum requirement for undersea exploration...

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: PESO: Automaton

[Isaac]

Bummer. I would have liked one. Cheap lenses and a nice feel would make me
happy. I haven't liked the digitals I've tried so far. Not enough control
and horrible optics on most of them. That's why I'm back to film.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:42 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO: Automaton

Hi Isaac,
That was a bit of PDML humor. If common sense prevails -- and I'm certain it
will -- there will never be a digital back for a film SLR. It's much easier
and more cost effective to design a camera around the digital concept rather
than trying to adapt an old camera. Sorry, no digital back for the venerable
K.
Paul


> There is a digital back for the K series? Where is that found at? And how
> much?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:57 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom C"
> Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton
> 
> 
> > Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital 
> > back for the K and M series.  You can't forget about that.
> 
> Lenses are truly where it's at.
> You can never have too many lenses..
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: PESO: Automaton

[Peter J. Alling]

Damn you for your enablement Robb...
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton

Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital back 
for the K and M series.  You can't forget about that.

Lenses are truly where it's at.
You can never have too many lenses..
William Robb


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

RE: PESO: Automaton

[pnstenquist]

Hi Isaac,
That was a bit of PDML humor. If common sense prevails -- and I'm certain it 
will -- there will never be a digital back for a film SLR. It's much easier and 
more cost effective to design a camera around the digital concept rather than 
trying to adapt an old camera. Sorry, no digital back for the venerable K.
Paul


> There is a digital back for the K series? Where is that found at? And how
> much?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:57 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom C"
> Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton
> 
> 
> > Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital 
> > back for the K and M series.  You can't forget about that.
> 
> Lenses are truly where it's at.
> You can never have too many lenses..
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: PESO: Automaton

[pnstenquist]

Bill Robb opined,
> Lenses are truly where it's at.
> You can never have too many lenses..

So true. Bodies come and go, but lenses are forever. A fine optic will always 
be a fine optic. The camera is simply the open and close device that goes 
between lens and film or, in the new world, lens and sensor. And isn't it 
interesting that while the recording mechanisim has changed, the lens remains 
the hero.
Paul

RE: PESO: Forgotten Tree

[Shel Belinkoff]

Running late on some comments.

First allow me to say that the K55/1.8 is a very nice lens.  It's not as
sharp as some, and needs to be stopped down a bit for best results, but I
like the way it renders the image on film.

This pic is quite soft, far softer than the results the K55/1.8 is capable
of producing.  I suspect it's because you used a flat bed scanner. 
Contrast is soft, too.  But the thing is, whether by accident or intent, it
works for me on one level and up to a point.  The softness and reduced
contrast give the photo an old time look.  It reminds me of many old photos
I've seen recently in museums.  However, the framing is pretty bad.  That
big, white area in the upper left corner really detracts from the rest of
the picture.

It also appears that the scan was made in RGB, not greyscale.  In this case
the RGB adds a little tone to the image, and that tone is in keeping with
the older look and feel.  I don't want to suggest that you only scan and
post B&W film-based images in greyscale, but, if you did this accidentally
you might want to be careful with subsequent scans.  If you want
greyscale,be sure that's what you're getting.

The feeling I get from this photo is that it works as well as it does (up
to the framing issue) more as a result of accidents and circumstance than
intention and planning.  Of course, I could be way off base ... and I'm
sure you'll tell me.  At least I hope you would ;-))

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Thibouille 
>
> OK, that's my first neg scan with my Epson 2480 Photo so please be
indulgent.
> Taken with my KX and SMC 55mm 1.8 on FP4+.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3105252
>
> Any comments welcome.
> 
> Thibouille

Re: PESO: Automaton

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


And here I thought it was about seeing and vision...  I'm still 
considering an FA 31 LTD, though.
Nice lens, isn't it?
William Robb 

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[David S]

LOL

Thats gotta make it to the '05 quote list.

Dave S


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:03:09 -0500 (EST), John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Taking photographic advice from a web page chosen based on
> popularity is like taking cooking advice from a MacDonalds.

Re: Need Help: Powerpoint slide show with music

[Herb Chong]

not in PowerPoint. music and slides are independent. you need programs 
designed for this. many of the slideshow programs for under $60 will do this 
to some degree. i use Adobe Premiere, but it is a very expensive program.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:15 PM
Subject: Need Help: Powerpoint slide show with music


Anyone here use Powerpoint?  I need to make a photo slideshow for my 
brother's upcoming wedding, and I need to be able to sync music with 
certain parts of it.  Anyone here know how to do that?  I'm very new to 
Powerpoint.

Also, if you know of a program that would be better to use for this than 
Powerpoint, I'd love to hear about it. (I'm using WinXP, btw)

Re: PESO: Automaton

[Tom C]

And here I thought it was about seeing and vision...  I'm still considering 
an FA 31 LTD, though.

Tom C.

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:57:19 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton

Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital back for 
the K and M series.  You can't forget about that.
Lenses are truly where it's at.
You can never have too many lenses..
William Robb

Re: PESO -- Replicator

[Larry Cook]

So replicators are pernicious and prefer fast food over gourmet?
Larry
No but I felt very insulted, it ignored my Pentax entirely and 
attacked the guy walking past with the Canon
Powershot Pro1, I'd have shot a few photos but my buffer was full...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has SG-1 been alerted yet??? Do we need to call the Asgard???

This appeared in front of the local library...
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_replicator.html 

Technical:
Pentax *ist-D iso 200 1/350sec
smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6

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Re: WTB Black MX part

[Alan Chan]

--- Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got my black MX back from the CLA.
> It's mechanically nice now.
> But the dingbat tech "slipped" with the spanner on the top of the wider knob.
> So there's a big scratch on the top.
> Anyone got a black one of these posts available?

Just search through my bags of MX parts but the only black knob I have have worn
threads. Sorry no luck. But that damn tech should use rubber in the first place.

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Re: PESO: Automaton

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


Bill you forgot to tell him to get the FF 15 mega-pixel digital 
back for the K and M series.  You can't forget about that.
Lenses are truly where it's at.
You can never have too many lenses..
William Robb 

Maybe I'm slow ...

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

... but KEH has the ists now.
Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks

Re: WTB Black MX part

[Peter J. Alling]

I have two black MX's both have the same problem that you describe from 
the came cause.

Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
>Peter J. Alling
>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:45:47 -0800
>Yep, they both have scratches from dingbat technicians.
I don't get it.
Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer 
the relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks



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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: Velvia 100

[Alan Chan]

--- Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup, but so far it was only available in Japan.

And Fujifilm made it clear that it wouldn't be exported offically. From what I 
have
read, RVP100 is not exactly identical to RVP on colour rendition. I really 
dislike
RVP100F btw.

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Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth Waller" 
Subject: Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS


Ah so I need the best equipment.
It amazes me that this concept is hard to grasp.
William Robb

sOT: Interesting lens @ Cord

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

Just slightly OT
They've got an old Kalimar 800-1200/9-11 zoom.  T-mount.  Creme color.
Might be fun.  Maybe nice for digital birding.  But it's unfortunately $249.
Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks

Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[Kenneth Waller]

Ah so I need the best equipment.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 10, 2005 10:04 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS


> 
> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/02/10 Thu PM 01:18:45 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS
> 
> On 10 Feb 2005 at 4:06, Keith Whaley wrote:
> 
> > Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's essence.
> > A really capable photographer can make really good images, even while 
> > using sub-standard gear.
> > We tend to forget that...
> > We concentrate on the tools' properties, instead of the excellence of 
> > the end product.
> > Mistake...
> 
> However if you are out to make the the best end product wouldn't it make 
> sense 
> to use the best tools for the job?

Also, if you are extremely inexperienced you should also be using the very best 
tools.  You might not be able to get the best out of them but, equally, you 
will not be blaming shortcomings of the equipment on (what you think is) your 
own failings.

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Re: WTB Black MX part

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

>Peter J. Alling
>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:45:47 -0800
>Yep, they both have scratches from dingbat technicians.
I don't get it.
Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks

Refconverter A and a MX

[Pawel Bartuzi]

I would like to ask refconverter A owners here on the list: does your 
refconverter stay at 90 angle in relation to a camera back or does it go 
down a little? Mine looks as if it looked into viewfinder a little from 
under the center of a viewfinder (like in 
www.pentax.ca/support/manual_pdfs/accessories/REFConverter.pdf 
 
- I _think_ I can see that the bottom of the refconverter is not at 90 
angle with the MX back). Also, when looking with x2 magnification I see 
that the center of a frame (the split image) is not centered in the 
refconverter but rather in a lower part of the refconverters field of 
view. Is it normal?

Pawel

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[Kenneth Waller]

Not even close Fnarf.

IIRC,  substandard was in regards to equipment.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 10, 2005 7:56 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW, please define 'substandard'.

Easy:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=381188

cheers,
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Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[Peter J. Alling]

But Frank, they're not substandard...(wait for it), ... for you.
frank theriault wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

BTW, please define 'substandard'.
   

Easy:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=381188
cheers,
frank 



 


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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[m.9.wilson]

> 
> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/02/10 Thu PM 01:18:45 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS
> 
> On 10 Feb 2005 at 4:06, Keith Whaley wrote:
> 
> > Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's essence.
> > A really capable photographer can make really good images, even while 
> > using sub-standard gear.
> > We tend to forget that...
> > We concentrate on the tools' properties, instead of the excellence of 
> > the end product.
> > Mistake...
> 
> However if you are out to make the the best end product wouldn't it make 
> sense 
> to use the best tools for the job?

Also, if you are extremely inexperienced you should also be using the very best 
tools.  You might not be able to get the best out of them but, equally, you 
will not be blaming shortcomings of the equipment on (what you think is) your 
own failings.

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Re: Re: PESO Ancient Breadscape

[m.9.wilson]

> 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/02/10 Thu PM 02:56:59 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO Ancient Breadscape
> 
> 
> > 
> > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2005/02/10 Thu PM 01:16:45 GMT
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: PESO Ancient Breadscape
> > 
> > Hi Team,
> > 
> > Another PESO shot today testing some lights:
> 
> Some interesting stuff on there.  What's the substrate?

I should read titles before posting

mike

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Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[frank theriault]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW, please define 'substandard'.

Easy:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=381188

cheers,
frank 





-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.....

[Peter J. Alling]

Yes, a noseless pretty girl...  I may have nightmares.
frank theriault wrote:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:52:39 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Well, yes that is very silly, very silly indeed.
   

Well, I for one appreciated the article.
It's about as relevent to me as noise reduction, and I got to look at
a picture of a pretty girl in the bargain.  That can't be all bad...
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: Just so you don't think we are the only silly ones.....

[frank theriault]

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:52:39 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, yes that is very silly, very silly indeed.
> 

Well, I for one appreciated the article.

It's about as relevent to me as noise reduction, and I got to look at
a picture of a pretty girl in the bargain.  That can't be all bad...

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: WTB Black MX part

[Peter J. Alling]

Yep, they both have scratches from dingbat technicians.
Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
Got my black MX back from the CLA.
It's mechanically nice now.
But the dingbat tech "slipped" with the spanner on the top of the 
wider knob.
So there's a big scratch on the top.
Anyone got a black one of these posts available?

Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer 
the relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[Kenneth Waller]

BTW, please define 'substandard'.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 10, 2005 3:50 PM
To: pentax list 
Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

On 10/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Substandard tools are incapable of producing an excellent product.

Hmmm. Define 'excellent'.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: winterlude

[Peter J. Alling]

Unfortunately I've seen it happen...
Cotty wrote:
On 10/2/05, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

there was even some mad reporter from the local TV
station interviewing the
sculptures
   

 

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39567008
   

That's a cameraman - the reporter would actually be talking to the
sculpture ;-)

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--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: winterlude

[frank theriault]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:21:48 -0500 (EST), wendy beard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I sent this yesterday but it didn't show up.
> 
> Thought Frank might have posted about his trip to
> Ottawa by now. Maybe he did and that didn't appear
> either :-)
> Anyway, I popped down to look at the ice sculptures in
> Confederation
> Park. Very disappointing this year. The weather was so
> warm at the weekend
> that the sculptures had already begun to melt and
> break off. I like to go
> down in the evening to see them lit up. Ideally I
> would have had a tripod
> with me but I didn't take one out of consideration for
> the other visitors.
> Had to make do with IS ;-)
> One of the sculptures was completely in bits, but they
> lit the tombstone
> anyway :-)
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39566999
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39567000
> This was part of the tableau
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39566998
> 
> there was even some mad reporter from the local TV
> station interviewing the
> sculptures
> http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39567008
> 
> You can see what the sculptures were supposed to look
> like here:
> http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/winterlude/index.asp?bhcp=1
> 
> Wendy

Hi, Wendy,

I was going to post, and tell everyone what a great weekend I had, but
a few things got in the way.

I did get up to Ottawa on Saturday, and we skated from about 11:00 am
to 1:00 pm.  It was a gorgeous day - just above freezing, but the ice
was still nice and hard.  We skated about 2/3 way down the canal
starting from the Snowbowl (?) and back again.  By the time we got
back the ice surface was getting a teeny bit mushy from the warm sun,
so it was a good time to stop.

It really is a lot of fun to skate all that distance without turning
around (we figured we skated around 10 km, total).  There were things
to do along the way, and a few "warming stations" that would have been
good a few weeks ago during the cold-snap:  open air fireplaces
(surrounded by a grid) for warming hands and bums, although we
certainly didn't need them on Saturday.  Still, the burning wood
smelled good.

As far as the snow sculptures, well, most of them hadn't even been
started when we were there on Saturday afternoon.  They were, for the
most part, covered by cardboard to prevent melting, and were still in
blocks (ie:  unsculpted) when we were there.

So, being the good Canadians we are, we went to the War Memorial, then
over to the Parliament Buildings to test out the fisheye.  I wanted to
have a chat with the PM, but apparently one needs an appointment.  We
saw the Old Guy Who Feeds the Stray Cats (pretty cool), and even saw a
Ridiculous Political Protest:  some guy named Rick (he even signed his
"work") wandered out onto the Ottawa River right behind the Parliament
Buildings and spelled out the words "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"
in the virgin snow on the river surface.  You could see where he then
hightailed it across the river to Hull.  Sadly, no hole in the ice
where he might have fallen through .

For those of you who don't know (which would be, like, the Rest of the
World), our Members of Parliament are about to vote on a bill which
would specifically allow gay marriage.  Or to be more precise, in the
Marriage Act, the words "man and wife" will be removed, and it will be
specified that homosexual marriages are to be allowed.  It's going to
be a "free vote" (ie:  MP's won't be tied to party lines), and it's
expected to pass, much to the apparent chagrine to Rick (see above)
and his ilk.

So, that was our trip to Ottawa.  Sorry I didn't mention it earlier. 
I kind of threw my back out on Friday, and although I skated and
walked, I wasn't too comfortable.  It got worse on Sunday, so I stayed
in Kingston with the kids on Monday (they had the day off school
anyway), and although I got home on Monday pm, I didn't work Tuesday
either, due to the back.  It seems that I have lower back spasms, and
it hurts like a bugger.

So, since I didn't have a chance to post until Tuesday, I thought it
was a bit late for weekend stuff.  But, since you mention it, Wendy, I
figured I might as well.

I worked these last two days, but in considerable pain.  It's not
getting any worse, though, so I figure I'm okay.  It's actually better
on the bike;  it hurts to walk or bend over, but cycling is okay.

The joys of getting old...  

cheers,
frank

ps:  took several rolls, but of course, won't be ready for some time. 
it's times like this that I yearn for digital 


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Homeward

[Ryan Lee]

Hey it's same-themed as my Automaton PESO! :) Gotta love the SMC
windscreens..

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:20 AM
Subject: PESO: Homeward


> I am not really sure how well this stands on its own. It's more the first
> step in a photography project I will be working on long time, I think.
(Yeah, I
> have at least two.)
>
> I envision it, or something like it, along with other photos in a sort of
> montage (photos of different things, but related). And if/when the project
comes
> together I will share more. I think each picture will have more impact
being
> juxtaposition.
>
> So it might be sort of boring on its own.
>
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/commute.htm
>
> You can tell what I was doing when I took it (and I took several -- a
little
> dangerous). This was one of two that I liked best. But I may keep trying.
I do
> like the lighting in this one, though.
>
> Any comments welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
>
>

Re: PESO: Automaton

[Ryan Lee]

Hiya Eric, welcome to the stew! Looking forward to see some of your
interpretations of challenging English weather!

Cheers,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Featherstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


> At 05:08 pm 10/02/2005, Ryan did write:
>
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3107166&size=lg
> >
> >Any comments appreciated :)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Ryan
>
> Firstly... Gosh, that's within a few miles of where I live! And I rather
> like the photo. Thanks for sharing, Ryan.
>
> Secondly... It's about time I said hi everyone, I've been lurking since
> before xmas. I'm strictly amateur, a K1000 user
> for the last 15 or so years though I've also got hold of an MX and ME
super
> lately.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric.
>
>
>
>

Re: PESO: Automaton

[Ryan Lee]

Jeez Cotty. Obviously- can't you see his reversing lights are on? The guy
next to him is reversing too.

:)
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton


> On 10/2/05, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3107166&size=lg
> >
> >Any comments appreciated :)
>
>
> That guy in the middle lane reversing into you?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
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>
>

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 
Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS


Hmmm. Define 'excellent'.
Technically refined, in the context I meant to portray.
They can still be boring as a blank sheet.
William Robb

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Whaley"
Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS


However if you are out to make the the best end product wouldn't 
it make sense to use the best tools for the job?
If the operator part of the equation is up to the challenge, 
certainly.
But to get the best equipment in _anticipation_ that it will make 
you a better photographer, is not only putting the cart in front... 
it's a bit of kidding yourself, isn't it?
How do you perform with "merely" average equipment?
Are you capable of using it as well as it's possible? Are you 
wringing out the last little bit of performance, each photo 
session?
Honestly?
Then perhaps it would be a good idea to buy up. To upgrade your 
equipment. Because you're probably as good as you can be with what 
you're using right now.
Somewhere around the house, I have a really cheap ass 80-200 zoom 
lens.
I submit to you that in any given circumstance, my top end prime 
lenses will produce a technically superior picture.
The operator isn't part of this particular equation, as picture 
esthetics should be treated as a seperate issue.

William Robb

Re: PESO: Automaton

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Featherstone"
Subject: Re: PESO: Automaton



. I'm strictly amateur, a K1000 user
for the last 15 or so years though I've also got hold of an MX and 
ME super lately.
I used K-1000s for many years as a wedding camera.
I have a lot of respect for those suckers.
The ME-Super is a nice little camera, and the MX is well regarded.
Buy lenses now, you have enough cameras.
William Robb 

WTB Black MX part

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

Got my black MX back from the CLA.
It's mechanically nice now.
But the dingbat tech "slipped" with the spanner on the top of the wider knob.
So there's a big scratch on the top.
Anyone got a black one of these posts available?
Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks

Re: PESO: Automaton

[Eric Featherstone]

At 05:08 pm 10/02/2005, Ryan did write:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3107166&size=lg
Any comments appreciated :)
Cheers,
Ryan
Firstly... Gosh, that's within a few miles of where I live! And I rather 
like the photo. Thanks for sharing, Ryan.

Secondly... It's about time I said hi everyone, I've been lurking since 
before xmas. I'm strictly amateur, a K1000 user
for the last 15 or so years though I've also got hold of an MX and ME super 
lately.

Cheers,
Eric. 

Re: Need Help: Powerpoint slide show with music

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello John,

I have gone down that road in the long past and finally concluded that
the best approach is to use a video editing program that has a
timeline.  The video editors handle stills as well as video.  You drop
your images on the timeline and drop the music track down.  Adjust
duration of slides that you want and then have the editor create a DVD
- playable on most any DVD player.  On top of that, you have something
to give the viewers that doesn't require a computer or special
software, etc.

The one I use most of the time is Ulead Video Studio - currently on
version 8.  Adobe Premiere Elements is also pretty good (more buggy
for me).

There is a little more work involved this way, but the productions can
look much more professional.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, February 10, 2005, 2:15:00 PM, you wrote:

JC> Anyone here use Powerpoint?  I need to make a photo slideshow for my
JC> brother's upcoming wedding, and I need to be able to sync music with certain
JC> parts of it.  Anyone here know how to do that?  I'm very new to Powerpoint.

JC> Also, if you know of a program that would be better to use for this than
JC> Powerpoint, I'd love to hear about it. (I'm using WinXP, btw)

JC> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

JC> Thanks,
JC> John Celio

JC> --
JC> http://www.neovenator.com
JC> http://www.newpixel.net

JC> AIM: Neopifex

JC> "Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a
JC> statement." 

Re: Need Help: Powerpoint slide show with music

[Paul Sorenson]

Check out Microsoft Photo Story here
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/photostory/default.mspx
It's a free download if you're using a registered copy of XP.  You can use 
music, voice nattation, pan and zooms with the pix.  The created file runs 
on Windows Media Player.

Paul
- Original Message - 
From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Need Help: Powerpoint slide show with music


Anyone here use Powerpoint?  I need to make a photo slideshow for my 
brother's upcoming wedding, and I need to be able to sync music with 
certain parts of it.  Anyone here know how to do that?  I'm very new to 
Powerpoint.

Also, if you know of a program that would be better to use for this than 
Powerpoint, I'd love to hear about it. (I'm using WinXP, btw)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
John Celio
--
http://www.neovenator.com
http://www.newpixel.net
AIM: Neopifex
"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement."

Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'll throw in a drill thrawl with thorny thighs too.

I see the 2005 quotation collection is well under way already...

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Need Help: Powerpoint slide show with music

[John Celio]

Anyone here use Powerpoint?  I need to make a photo slideshow for my 
brother's upcoming wedding, and I need to be able to sync music with certain 
parts of it.  Anyone here know how to do that?  I'm very new to Powerpoint.

Also, if you know of a program that would be better to use for this than 
Powerpoint, I'd love to hear about it. (I'm using WinXP, btw)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
John Celio
--
http://www.neovenator.com
http://www.newpixel.net
AIM: Neopifex
"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement." 

Re: New K1000 owner

[Rob Studdert]

On 10 Feb 2005 at 19:22, Bob W wrote:

> In Richard Caplan, which is the store in question, they do have a
> slightly snooty attitude on the whole, but that fits their location,
> St. James's, where everything is by appointment to Prince Charles.

Richard himself seems a nice enough guy, I had a decent chat with him and he 
didn't seem condescended at all even knowing that he was speaking with an 
antipodean :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: winterlude

[Cotty]

On 10/2/05, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed:

>there was even some mad reporter from the local TV
>station interviewing the
>sculptures

>http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39567008

That's a cameraman - the reporter would actually be talking to the
sculpture ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

[Cotty]

On 10/2/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'll bet you 500 Quatloos that IS/USM contacts eventually show up in the
>area where the "aperture simulator" ring used to be :)

I'm in.

I'll throw in a drill thrawl with thorny thighs too.

No way Jose.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Automaton

[Cotty]

On 10/2/05, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3107166&size=lg
>
>Any comments appreciated :)


That guy in the middle lane reversing into you?



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Velvia 100

[Henri Toivonen]

Henri Toivonen wrote:
Fuji has apparently released a new film, called Velvia 100 (not to be 
confused with 100F).
According to the press release it has finer grain than 50, at twice 
the speed.
Next year Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves.

/Henri

Oops, forgot the url:
http://www.fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/ep...mp;CAT_ID=-1007 


/Henri

Re: OT: Film is dead

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Woot is very flip about all their sales items.
Tim Sherburne wrote:
Hmmm, they should discuss their ad copy a bit more. I find this imagery to
be chilling: "The lighted adapter eats negatives for breakfast and slides
for lunch..."  I prefer my negs to be uneaten, undigested! :)
 

Re: OT: Question about Battery Chargers...

[Rob Studdert]

On 10 Feb 2005 at 11:14, Albano Garcia wrote:

> 
> Ryan,
> This is basic chinese for me :-)
> All I need to know is if the claimed output gets
> divided by the quantity of batteries being charged or
> if not.
> They sell it as a 2 and a half hour charger, (900 mnA
> by 2,5 is 2250 mA, and my batts are 2300 mA), but I
> don't know if it's true if 4 batts are being charged.
> Thanks and regards

It's probably 2.5 hrs for 1600-1800mAh batteries but I'd assume 3 to 3.5hrs for 
a set of 2300mAh high capacity cells due to thermal losses dependant upon their 
initial state of discharge of course. If the charger is a good one they may 
take as little as 1.5hrs depending on how deep your equipment will let the 
batteries discharge before deeming them exhausted.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: PESO - hair braiding

[Raimo K]

Too many distracting elements and no composition.
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
- Original Message - 
From: "Badri A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:46 AM
Subject: PESO - hair braiding


Hi,
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3106149
A street shot from Curacao, a small island in the Caribbean I had been
to last week.  This is a stall in the weekend market (a completely
touristy affair) in Willemstad, the capital.
Since this is my first PESO I'd really appreciate your input and comments.
Thanks
Badri

Re: OT: Rule Britannia!

[Keith Whaley]

Chris Stoddart wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Congratulations to all the UK members of the list on the impending
marriage or the Heir-a-parent to the English throne!

Why thank you! But collectively as a nation I think we were about 100
times more impressed by Ellen MacArthur breaking the round-the-world
sailing record on Monday :-)
Chris

As was I!
I'm a fresh water, fair weather sailor, but love it passionately, and 
perhaps I can appreciate just a little what this woman must have endured 
on the trip...
I hope she writes a book! I'll be one of the first buyers!

keith whaley

Re: OT: Rule Britannia!

[Cotty]

On 10/2/05, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Congratulations to all the UK members of the list on the impending 
>marriage or the Heir-a-parent to the English throne!

Oh cripes. I've been stuck down in Tetsworth all day, which is in our patch.

It's 2 miles from Highgrove (Prince Charles' home in Gloucestershire) and
the place has been crawling with TV crews (including our lot) filming
everything and anything. Zz.

Been doing lives into our bulletins all day. Managed one lousy shot of
where we were parked down a side street off the town centre:



That's my camera car in front, followed by out ITV Central sat-van, and
then a BBC sat-truck bringing up the rear. First shot off a new lens (EF
20mm 2.8 but you didn't need to know that ;-)

Oddly enough I filmed Prince Charles yesterday at the site for The Centre
For Islamic Studies being built in Oxford. He always seems very charming,
never says a word to the press though, and we are herded about by Royal
minions like sheep to the slaughter.

He does a lot of good work I spose, so good luck to him.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Forwarded: FS: Premature Friday for Sale

[Isaac]

I just ordered a Sigma lens but I may be interested in the teleconvertor.
How does it attach? Is it at the end of the lens or at the mount? What is
the condition?

-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Forwarded: FS: Premature Friday for Sale

Hello Isaac
As suggested yesterday, I now have two K-mount lenses for sale, one of which
might interest you:

1) An excellent (close tor mint condition) RMC Tokina 4.5/80-200mm Zoom lens
(4.5 all the way) with "Close Focus" (macro) for sale.
It's a K-mount lens - perfect for K1000, M-series, and excellent for A- and
MZ-series and useable with *ist D or DS cameras.
Make me an offer!

2) Kenko Auto Tele Converter 2x (manual focus), excellent condition, incl.
case.
Make me an offer!

All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

RE: Velvia 100

[Jens Bladt]

Is this good or bad? Are you sayin the new 100 is better than the F or the
discontinued 50?

I have used the 100F film and was quite satisfied:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/1731174/

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. februar 2005 20:59
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Velvia 100


Henri wrote:


> Fuji has apparently released a new film, called Velvia 100 (not to be
> confused with 100F).
> According to the press release it has finer grain than 50, at twice the
> speed.
> Next year Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves.



This film was released a couple of years ago along with the Velvia 100F and
Astia 100F. I doubt Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves next year as the
Velvia 100 doesn't have a remotely similar color palette.

Pål

Re: Velvia 100

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 2005-02-10, at 20:59, Pål Jensen wrote:
This film was released a couple of years ago along with the Velvia 
100F and Astia 100F.
Yup, but so far it was only available in Japan.
--
Best regards
Sylwek

Re: New K1000 owner

[Cotty]

>wrapped in their ever ready case and with a condom-like UV filter placed
>over the lens.  
>
>Shel 
>
>==
>Hehehehehe. That's the funny thing I've heard so far this week.
>
>Marnie aka Doe  I got to remember that one. 

Hey what's so funny, I use a condom on one or two of my lenses.

Really.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[Cotty]

On 10/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Substandard tools are incapable of producing an excellent product.

Hmmm. Define 'excellent'.




Cheers,
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Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

[Mark Roberts]

"John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark Roberts mused:

>> I'll bet you 500 Quatloos that IS/USM contacts eventually show up in the
>> area where the "aperture simulator" ring used to be :)
>
>I'll take that bet.
>
>There's still the aperture actuating lever, which is pretty close to
>the location of the aperture sensing cam.  There's no need to place
>any newly-introduced extra power & data contacts there

Need? Who said anything about need? ;-)
I agree with everything you wrote about it not being *necessary* to put
additional contacts (or anything else) there. 

-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

winterlude

[wendy beard]

I sent this yesterday but it didn't show up.

Thought Frank might have posted about his trip to
Ottawa by now. Maybe he did and that didn't appear
either :-)
Anyway, I popped down to look at the ice sculptures in
Confederation
Park. Very disappointing this year. The weather was so
warm at the weekend
that the sculptures had already begun to melt and
break off. I like to go
down in the evening to see them lit up. Ideally I
would have had a tripod
with me but I didn't take one out of consideration for
the other visitors.
Had to make do with IS ;-)
One of the sculptures was completely in bits, but they
lit the tombstone
anyway :-)
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39566999
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39567000
This was part of the tableau
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39566998

there was even some mad reporter from the local TV
station interviewing the
sculptures
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/39567008

You can see what the sculptures were supposed to look
like here:
http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/winterlude/index.asp?bhcp=1

Wendy

Re: OT: Rule Britannia!

[Chris Stoddart]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Congratulations to all the UK members of the list on the impending
> marriage or the Heir-a-parent to the English throne!

Why thank you! But collectively as a nation I think we were about 100
times more impressed by Ellen MacArthur breaking the round-the-world
sailing record on Monday :-)

Chris

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

[John Francis]

Peter J. Alling mused:
> 
> no they find Ken Rockwell, who runs a "Popular"  web page.

Taking photographic advice from a web page chosen based on
popularity is like taking cooking advice from a MacDonalds.

Re: Velvia 100

[Pål Jensen]

Henri wrote:


> Fuji has apparently released a new film, called Velvia 100 (not to be 
> confused with 100F).
> According to the press release it has finer grain than 50, at twice the 
> speed.
> Next year Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves.



This film was released a couple of years ago along with the Velvia 100F and 
Astia 100F. I doubt Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves next year as the 
Velvia 100 doesn't have a remotely similar color palette.

Pål

Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

[John Francis]

Mark Roberts mused:
> 
> Martin Trautmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I did not read the KAF3 patents myself (three from 2001?). I doubt that they
> >would provide real information how the mount would look like. But there
> >should not be only less than KAF2, but somehow more. This may be hidden
> >within the digital contact, being information only. But maybe some further
> >contacts or mount extension will be required which would proof that current
> >lenses and bodies are not yet KAF3.
> 
> I'll bet you 500 Quatloos that IS/USM contacts eventually show up in the
> area where the "aperture simulator" ring used to be :)

I'll take that bet.

There's still the aperture actuating lever, which is pretty close to
the location of the aperture sensing cam.  There's no need to place
any newly-introduced extra power & data contacts there; there's still
quite a bit of unused space in other parts of the lens mount.

I'm sure the aperture sensing was dropped as an independent decision
to eliminate a redundant mechanism, rather than being forced to make
space for some future connectors.

That doesn't necessarily mean I think it was a good decision; just
that it was a decision taken solely on the perceived merits of the link.

Re: OT: Rule Britannia!

[John Forbes]

Thank you, but I can assure you that I personally had nothing to do with  
it.  Can't speak for the others, though.

John

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:46:24 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Congratulations to all the UK members of the list on the impending  
marriage or the Heir-a-parent to the English throne!




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Velvia 100

[Henri Toivonen]

Fuji has apparently released a new film, called Velvia 100 (not to be 
confused with 100F).
According to the press release it has finer grain than 50, at twice the 
speed.
Next year Velvia 50 will be gone from the shelves.

/Henri

Re: OT: Film is dead

[Tim Sherburne]

Hmmm, they should discuss their ad copy a bit more. I find this imagery to
be chilling: "The lighted adapter eats negatives for breakfast and slides
for lunch..."  I prefer my negs to be uneaten, undigested! :)

Tim

On 2/10/05 11:44, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Another big push to sell scanners:
> 
> http://www.woot.com/woot_detail.aspx
> 
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
> 
>> Peter & Fred,
>> I purchased an M85/2 when it was first introduced (outrageously priced)
>> and focusing was smooth and not stiff right out of the box.  (still is)
>> Perhaps lack of use and aging combine to stiffen it.
>> And I know others dislike this lens, but I've got some memorable pix with it.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:44:56 -0500, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>> 
 From the description of the "problem" I don't think it needs to be
 fixed, my 85mm M had the stiffest focusing of any lens I've owned when I
 acquired it, (a like new in a box used lens  that has subsequently lost
 much of it's collectors item status, in other words I've beat it to
 hell).  Over the last few  years it's become much easier to focus.  I've
 noticed this happen with most of the manual focusing lenses I've owned,
 the 85-M  was just the most pronounced.
  
 
>>> That's interesting, Peter.  The M 85/2 that I used to own was bought as a
>>> used lens, although it was truly in mint condition.  But, unlike what you
>>> describe, it did focus fairly easily - I do not remember any stiffness.  On
>>> the other hand:
>>> 
>>> 1.  It was not new, and may have been focused quite a large number of times
>>> by someone who took very good care of it.
>>> 
>>> 2.  My memory may be faulty.  (However, if had been ~quite~ stiff, I really
>>> think I'd've remembered that.)
>>> 
>>> I certainly do agree that most well-used lenses do get ~somewhat~ easier to
>>> turn the focus ring on over time.  (I'm tempted to say that this is true
>>> about only the best lenses, but I guess those are just the ones that get
>>> focused the most often - .)
>>> 
>>> Fred
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> .
>> 
>>  
>> 

Re: PESO -- Replicator

[Peter J. Alling]

It's a sculpture, at least I think it is...
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
What the heck is that thing?!  It doesn't look like a real bug at all, but
some sort of mechanical or toy model.
Shel 

 

[Original Message]
From: Peter J. Alling 
   

 

This appeared in front of the local library...
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_replicator.html
   


 


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OT: Film is dead

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Another big push to sell scanners:
http://www.woot.com/woot_detail.aspx
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Peter & Fred,
I purchased an M85/2 when it was first introduced (outrageously priced)
and focusing was smooth and not stiff right out of the box.  (still is)
Perhaps lack of use and aging combine to stiffen it.
And I know others dislike this lens, but I've got some memorable pix with it.
Regards,  Bob S.
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:44:56 -0500, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

From the description of the "problem" I don't think it needs to be
fixed, my 85mm M had the stiffest focusing of any lens I've owned when I
acquired it, (a like new in a box used lens  that has subsequently lost
much of it's collectors item status, in other words I've beat it to
hell).  Over the last few  years it's become much easier to focus.  I've
noticed this happen with most of the manual focusing lenses I've owned,
the 85-M  was just the most pronounced.
 

That's interesting, Peter.  The M 85/2 that I used to own was bought as a
used lens, although it was truly in mint condition.  But, unlike what you
describe, it did focus fairly easily - I do not remember any stiffness.  On
the other hand:
1.  It was not new, and may have been focused quite a large number of times
by someone who took very good care of it.
2.  My memory may be faulty.  (However, if had been ~quite~ stiff, I really
think I'd've remembered that.)
I certainly do agree that most well-used lenses do get ~somewhat~ easier to
turn the focus ring on over time.  (I'm tempted to say that this is true
about only the best lenses, but I guess those are just the ones that get
focused the most often - .)
Fred
   


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Re: PESO -- Replicator

[Shel Belinkoff]

What the heck is that thing?!  It doesn't look like a real bug at all, but
some sort of mechanical or toy model.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Peter J. Alling 

> >>This appeared in front of the local library...
> >>
> >>
> >>http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_replicator.html

FS: Premature Friday for Sale

[Jens Bladt]

As suggested yesterday, I have two K-mount lenses for sale:

1) An excellent (close tor mint condition) RMC Tokina 4.5/80-200mm Zoom lens
(4.5 all the way) with "Close Focus" (macro) for sale.
It's a K-mount lens - perfect for K1000, M-series, and excellent for A- and
MZ-series and useable with *ist D or DS cameras.
Make me an offer!

2) Kenko Auto Tele Converter 2x (manual focus), excellent condition, incl.
case.
Make me an offer!

Please email me off list if interseted.


I'll post pictures of/taken with these lenses tomorrow!
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: New K1000 owner

[Bob W]

Hi,

>It's not entirely undeserved I don't think. For example there's a Leica
>specialist shop in London (UK) who's adverts often appear in the photo
>press with the tagline "Where the elite meet and greet". I mean, yuk!
>It's enough to send one scurrying in the direction of Voigtlander.

...except that the only places in London where you can buy them are the Leica
shops.

In Richard Caplan, which is the store in question, they do have a
slightly snooty attitude on the whole, but that fits their location,
St. James's, where everything is by appointment to Prince Charles.

They do, however, know a lot about Leicas. I've never met or gret anyone
else while in there, so I guess I'm not elite, but they will happily chat
even to hoi-polloi like me. They are over-priced though, but I guess their
regulars can afford it.

All the Leica dealers I've bought from have been quite down-to-earth.
I think they have to put on airs and graces for some customers, but if
they know you're a photographer rather than a poser they seem to be
ok. A lot of their customers are members of Her Majesty's Press, so
they have to know what they're talking about.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: PESO -- Replicator

[Peter J. Alling]

No but I felt very insulted, it ignored my Pentax entirely and attacked 
the guy walking past with the Canon
Powershot Pro1, I'd have shot a few photos but my buffer was full...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has SG-1 been alerted yet??? Do we need to call the Asgard???
 

This appeared in front of the local library...
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_replicator.html
Technical:
Pentax *ist-D iso 200 1/350sec
smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6
smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6 @ 70mm f4.0
   


 


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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: Someone on the list has a virus

[Gonz]

Note: I had to pull this off the archives, since Mark's response never 
made it to my inbox.

-
Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
The originating IP was 204.127.198.39 (comcast.net)
I've searched my most recent pdml emails, and the only comcast.net 
address comes from Paul Stenquist.  But the IP address does not match, 
not even close.
Since Comcast assigns IP addresses dynamically, this doesn't mean much. 

The virus could have come from someone who unsubscribed months ago or
someone who's on line now but has since been assigned a different IP by
Comcast. No way of telling.
True, but his IP address has been pretty consistent for the last couple 
of months or so.  Generally, at least the most significant digits do not 
change dramatically.

--
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT: Question about Battery Chargers...

[Albano Garcia]

Ryan,
This is basic chinese for me :-)
All I need to know is if the claimed output gets
divided by the quantity of batteries being charged or
if not.
They sell it as a 2 and a half hour charger, (900 mnA
by 2,5 is 2250 mA, and my batts are 2300 mA), but I
don't know if it's true if 4 batts are being charged.
Thanks and regards

Albano

--- Ryan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Albano Garcia wrote:
> 
> >Hi gang,
> >I use AA NiMh rechargeables.
> >My charger says "output 900 mA MAX", so it's a
> maximum
> >of 900mA per hour.
> >My question is: if I put 4 AAs to charge, this
> output
> >splits in four? or 4 batteries receive 900 mA each?
> >Regards
> > 
> >  
> >
> Are you reading this on the wall wart or the charger
> itself?
> 
> The best way to think of this is really in watts,
> since the power supply 
> for the charger isn't at 1.5V.   Basically, multiply
> the supplied volts 
> by the amps and this is the watts delivered.   With
> this number, you can 
> figure out how much is _ideally_ going toward the
> charge.   Now, the 
> problem is that the batteries get hot and the
> charger gets hot, so some 
> of this delivered energy is lost as heat.
> 
> -Ryan
> 
> >=
> >Albano Garcia
> >Photography & Graphic Design
> >http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
> >http://www.flaneur.com.ar
> > 
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: Experience with Super A/Program?

[Bob Sullivan]

(Hi Fred.) Pentax used to list one for the Super Program/Super A too!
I may have one somewhere...  Bob S.


On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:05:24 -0500, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 20-30 years ago someone made a battery compartment adapter, which allowed
> > the user to keep the battery in the pocket, connected to the camera with
> > a power cord. I haven't seen these in a long time. Have you?
> 
> Here's the Pentax one for the LX -
> http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/lxrmtcrd.jpg
> 
> Fred
> 
>

RE: PESO Ancient Breadscape

[Tom C]

Ah yes, nothing like good old mold to whet the appetite.  Would like to see 
some even closer macro shots.  Probably some nice abstracts in there.

Tom C.

From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO Ancient Breadscape
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:16:45 +1000
Hi Team,
Another PESO shot today testing some lights:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0734.jpg (~267kB)
And for the really depraved:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0734big.jpg (~1.25MB)
Tech: *ist D, ISO200, 1/1.25s, Av, Multi-seg metering, A*200/4 Macro @ f32, 
CF
lighting/manual WB off reference card.

All comments and questions welcome (Oh and don't blame me if it doesn't fit 
your concept of art :-).

Cheers,
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Lens Bargains ...

[Bob Sullivan]

Peter & Fred,
I purchased an M85/2 when it was first introduced (outrageously priced)
and focusing was smooth and not stiff right out of the box.  (still is)
Perhaps lack of use and aging combine to stiffen it.
And I know others dislike this lens, but I've got some memorable pix with it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:44:56 -0500, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From the description of the "problem" I don't think it needs to be
> > fixed, my 85mm M had the stiffest focusing of any lens I've owned when I
> > acquired it, (a like new in a box used lens  that has subsequently lost
> > much of it's collectors item status, in other words I've beat it to
> > hell).  Over the last few  years it's become much easier to focus.  I've
> > noticed this happen with most of the manual focusing lenses I've owned,
> > the 85-M  was just the most pronounced.
> 
> That's interesting, Peter.  The M 85/2 that I used to own was bought as a
> used lens, although it was truly in mint condition.  But, unlike what you
> describe, it did focus fairly easily - I do not remember any stiffness.  On
> the other hand:
> 
> 1.  It was not new, and may have been focused quite a large number of times
> by someone who took very good care of it.
> 
> 2.  My memory may be faulty.  (However, if had been ~quite~ stiff, I really
> think I'd've remembered that.)
> 
> I certainly do agree that most well-used lenses do get ~somewhat~ easier to
> turn the focus ring on over time.  (I'm tempted to say that this is true
> about only the best lenses, but I guess those are just the ones that get
> focused the most often - .)
> 
> Fred
> 
>

Re: PESO - hair braiding

[Badri A]

Thanks for your comments!

You're right, the hair-stylist is too dark.  Unfortunately I didn't
have my huge add-on flash with me that day.  These are the (few) times
I wish I had a newer body with a built-in flash.
Would a half-stop overexposure have worked?  Of course, I wasn't
thinking about the woman in the shadows at exposure time or I would
have tried it.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3107800

this is the original image, uncropped.  I cropped out the elements I
thought were distracting and didn't add to the theme of the
hair-braiding stall - but it does have some breathing space.  Do you
think it looks better?
 
> Also, it looks like the woman getting her hair braided is slightly out of
> focus.

Yes, she is a bit soft.  I guess my manual focusing wasn't that
accurate on this quick snapshot.

Again, thanks for looking!
Badri

Re: PESO -- Replicator

[larrycook99]

Has SG-1 been alerted yet??? Do we need to call the Asgard???

>This appeared in front of the local library...
>
>
>http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_replicator.html
>
>
>Technical:
>
>
>Pentax *ist-D iso 200 1/350sec
>smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6
>
>
>smc PENTAX-F 70-210mmF4-5.6 @ 70mm f4.0

RE: PESO - hair braiding

[Rick Womer]

I agree with Butch.  An alternative to trying to throw
the background out of focus might be to use a
wider-angle lens and move in closer; the background
objects will be larger in number but smaller in size,
and contribute context and "atmosphere" without as
much distraction.  A number of viewers are clearly
kinda distracted!

Rick

--- Butch Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nice idea but 2 negatives stand out.
> 
> First, The woman doing the braiding is too dark. I'm
> not sure that much 
> could be done about that as it looks like she is
> more in the shadows then 
> the light skinned woman getting the braiding done.
> Perhaps some fill flash 
> may have helped if that was an option.
> 
> Second, the background is too busy for my liking. A
> shallower depth of field 
> may have helped. I could not figure a different
> cropping that would have 
> helped.
> 
> Also, it looks like the woman getting her hair
> braided is slightly out of 
> focus.
> 
> Butch 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: PESO Ancient Breadscape

[Bruce Dayton]

After seeing that, makes me want to check my bread a bit more
carefully before eating.  How much magnification is it?  How did you
get to that magnification?

Without a title, I would be hard pressed to figure out just what we
were looking at.  Nice work.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, February 10, 2005, 5:16:45 AM, you wrote:

RS> Hi Team,

RS> Another PESO shot today testing some lights:

RS> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0734.jpg (~267kB)

RS> And for the really depraved:

RS> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0734big.jpg (~1.25MB)

RS> Tech: *ist D, ISO200, 1/1.25s, Av, Multi-seg metering, A*200/4 Macro @ f32, 
CF
RS> lighting/manual WB off reference card.

RS> All comments and questions welcome (Oh and don't blame me if
RS> it doesn't fit your concept of art :-).

RS> Cheers,


RS> Rob Studdert
RS> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
RS> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
RS> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
RS> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RS> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
RS> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

FS Friday - A*200/2.8

[Shel Belinkoff]

Almost new condition with case, F&R caps, and extra length screw-in
Heliopan lens hood. Contact me off list for details or to discuss.  Sorry
for not waiting until tomorrow - may not be able to get on line then.

Shel 

Re: PESO: Homeward

[Bruce Dayton]

Marnie,

This must be commute day for PESO's.  I just commented on Ryan's
submission.

Like his, I find myself in this situation quite often, but rarely see
a picture of it.  The lighting here is nice and helps the image.
After seeing Ryan's, I wonder how this would look in B&W?

I think you have a nice start to the project and hope that you will
continue to share as it comes along.  Nice work!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, February 10, 2005, 8:20:55 AM, you wrote:

Eac> I am not really sure how well this stands on its own. It's more the first
Eac> step in a photography project I will be working on long time, I think. 
(Yeah, I
Eac> have at least two.)

Eac> I envision it, or something like it, along with other photos in a sort of
Eac> montage (photos of different things, but related). And if/when the project 
comes
Eac> together I will share more. I think each picture will have more impact 
being
Eac> juxtaposition.

Eac> So it might be sort of boring on its own. 

Eac> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/commute.htm

Eac> You can tell what I was doing when I took it (and I took several -- a 
little
Eac> dangerous). This was one of two that I liked best. But I may keep trying. 
I do
Eac> like the lighting in this one, though.

Eac> Any comments welcome.

Eac> Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: New K1000 owner

[Bob Blakely]

Get a grip and learn to laugh. Only a fool takes offense where none is 
intended.

Regards,
Bob...
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I gotta jump in and say "What a load of crap."  Leica owners have really
gotten associated with this business of fondling their gear, collecting
[Deleted] 

Re: When will we get image stabilisation for Pentax DSLR?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Sheesh, didn't I paste it into the message? Getting batty in my
old age... ;-)

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW4/33.htm

Godfrey

--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 9/2/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >This is a hand-held exposure at 1/10 of a second with the
> Canon
> >10D + 300/4L IS at about a 20-30 foot distance, wide open @
> ISO
> >800. Yes there's motion blur in it... mostly the motion of
> the
> >subjects. Believe me, I'm steady but not *that* steady ...
> >Without IS, my usual bottom limit for this level of camera
> >motion with an effective 420mm focal length lens is about
> 1/125
> 
> Can I have a URL with those fries please? ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
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