re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Apr 2005 at 21:17, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I'm rather astonished that you are all so misinformed and do not 
 understand how digital cameras and digital SLRs operate with regard to 
 the sensor and shutter...

 Rob,
 The same thing for the Olympus E10/20.

OK, I submit to your superior knowledge (and distinct lack of tact). 

I haven't owned the E-10 for around 18 months now so my recollection is hazy. I 
can only assume that the shutter must be in the light path as there is no room 
for in in front of the sensor and behind the beam splitter and it must be 
closed for a very shot period of time after the shutter is depressed as the lag 
before image capture is less than 100ms. I expect that the aperture leaves are 
used as a leaf shutter but I can't remember noticing it.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: TSS: Thrift Shop Saturday

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 9, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
Got a goodie today.
Priced fairly, and a bargain for the Euros among us.
Rollei 35 S.
Rollei HFT Sonnar 40/2.8
Excellent condition.  With case  a fresh battery.
$300 (shipped!) US, Europe, GB, Japan, Canada.
Excellent camera. I have two of them still, and they will be the last 
film cameras I sell, if I ever do.

Godfrey


Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 9, 2005, at 9:41 PM, David Oswald wrote:
...I did a little web research, and ended up deciding on the HP 
Photosmart 8450.  ...

Hopefully I made the right decision.  The printer should arrive in a 
few days: $199 at buydig.com (I decided to give pricegrabber.com a 
try, and BuyDig was the lowest price with a reasonable reputation.)

Anyone have any comments or tips for this printer?
That's the upgraded version of the HP7960, which I've been using for 
the past six months. Excellent printers ... the 8450 has resolved some 
imaging issues which show up on the 7960 occasionally (a light 
herringbone pattern can appear in certain prints under close 
inspection). Same inks although in different cartridges (don't know why 
they did that).

HP's inks are a little pricey, and I prefer the Epson Premium Glossy 
and Matte paper surfaces to the HP papers, but the Epson papers work 
fine in it too.

The only downside to the fact that the nozzles are contained in the ink 
cartridge is that calibration shifts a little bit as you change 
cartridges, but I've not found this to be a problem in practical use.

Godfrey


Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-10 Thread Alan Chan
--- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I own three transparent Pentax bodies,  the SF1,  PZ10, and a 110 Pentax.
 It would be cool if Pentax had made a transparent *ist D- and I could get
 one.

Is DS good enough?
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/41855760

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Re: GESO - California Poppies

2005-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Joe,

All handheld, all manual focus

1698a - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 400, 1/350  @ f/5.6
1677  - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 400, 1/750  @ f/8.0
1592  - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 800, 1/1000 @ f/8.0
1655  - Pentax A 70-210/4   - ISO 200, 1/350  @ f/8.0
1660  - Pentax A 70-210/4   - ISO 200, 1/250  @ f/11.0
1642a - Pentax A 70-210/4   - ISO 200, 1/500  @ f/5.6
1590  - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 800, 1/2000 @ f/8.0
1591  - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 800, 1/750  @ f/8.0
1382  - Kyocera M410R Prosumer (my daughter's camera)
1576  - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 400, 1/1000 @ f/5.6
1383  - Kyocera M410R Prosumer (my daughter's camera)
1436  - Pentax A 70-210/4   - ISO 400, 1/3000 @ f/4.0
1556  - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 800, 1/3000 @ f/8.0
1701a - Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 - ISO 800, 1/750  @ f/8.0

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, April 9, 2005, 9:39:59 AM, you wrote:

JT Thanks Joe.  I find that the longer focal lengths really help isolate
JT the subject better.

JT -

JT Bruce, were the poppy photos also taken with the Tokina 400?

JT jof





Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Apr 2005 at 0:08, Alan Chan wrote:

 --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I own three transparent Pentax bodies,  the SF1,  PZ10, and a 110 Pentax. It
  would be cool if Pentax had made a transparent *ist D- and I could get one.
 
 Is DS good enough?
 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/41855760

That's just cruel :-)


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Re: One for the Gipper

2005-04-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
Funny, I was reading a review in a digital photo mag., the author seemed 
to think that the D70
had the superior viewfinder.  Humm... 
(Not in my experience...)

Bruce Dayton wrote:
A friend of mine asked for help in picking a DSLR.  She has been using
a Nikon N75 with 28-80 zoom to date.  Prior to that she was using an
old Canon FD mount body.
When she talked to me, she was just about ready to buy the D70 based
on internet hype and the local store being a strong Nikon seller.
We discussed what she wanted to do with the camera now and in the not
too distant future.  Her indication was that, besides family/kid
memories, she had started into portraiture and wanted to continue that
direction.
So with that in mind, I discussed and worked with her on the angle of
manually focusing and composing.  She is a convert away from AF for
this type of work now.  So suddenly the quality of the viewfinder
became very important.  The ability to clearly compose and focus on
the matte screen became among her most important features of the
camera.
I sent her around to look at the D70, RebelXT, Evolt and DS bodies
with this in mind.  She came back and reported the order of usability
of the viewfinder for the stated purpose as
Pentax *istDS
Canon RebelXT
Olympus Evolt
Nikon D70
Yesterday I stopped at the local store and tried the D70 and *istDS
side by side with 50mm lenses on each.  The D70 was barely usable (I
would hate it) and the *istDS was clearly better for this.
So today she picked up her brand new *istDS.  I was very pleased that
someone would get past the hype and really pick something that would
work best for what they wanted to do.
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: First Macro Stuff

2005-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/05, Peter Williams, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 'ladybird' is the British name of what you call a 'ladybug' :-)
 

It's also what we call them here in Australia where we use
proper English.


Apologies Peter - forgive my bad.



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Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

2005-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/4/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:

Anyone have any comments or tips for this printer?

Like most printers, use it at least once a week to counter ink drying out
in the head(s). I have  a Canon S9000 that I bought used and eventually
had to replace the head, which was only about 75 GBP and an easy swap.
It's such a good printer that for me it was worth it.




Cheers,
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Willing to trade - getting a DS

2005-04-10 Thread Thibouille
If anyone has a DS but would prefer good old Z1 / Super A / P30t / MX
I am willing to trade (all of'em if ya want lol).

BTW what is a normal price in the US for DS body only?
In Europe it is still 900-1000 euros which is a shame !!

Is 700 dollars about normal ?

 
--
Thibouille
--
Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...



Re: PESO - Gobsmacking Light

2005-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Not who, what.  Gob is slang for mouth.  So gobsmacked means hit in the 
mouth.  In other words, rendered speechless.  Not polite but a common 
term for something that astonishes.


What he said.



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Re: PESO - Gobsmacking Light

2005-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

I was told that swearing shouldn't be done in public... You know, the 
bAd words? :)

Cotty, you seem to have outdone yourself...

Thanks Boris.




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Re: Willing to trade - getting a DS

2005-04-10 Thread Carlos Royo
Thibouille escribió:
If anyone has a DS but would prefer good old Z1 / Super A / P30t / MX
I am willing to trade (all of'em if ya want lol).
BTW what is a normal price in the US for DS body only?
In Europe it is still 900-1000 euros which is a shame !!
In most Internet shops in Europe you can buy an *ist DS for about 800 
euros, VAT included.

Carlos


Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2005, at 5:05 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
Sounds like the same disease I have.
Curiousititis. ;-)
I tend to do the same (I am an engineer - that's my excuse anyway)... 
but I do have my limits.  I won't take anything apart that I don't 
think I'll be able to put back together.

I also tend to avoid disassembling expensive things that are still 
under warranty.  The ones I own, anyway.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

2005-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2005, at 4:41 PM, David Oswald wrote:
One sellingpoint for me was that with the HP model, the jets are built 
into the replacable ink tanks.  That means that although tank 
replacements are a little more costly, at least having a clogged 
printhead isn't going to mean I have to give up on the printer.
I had to run 4 (or was it 5) consecutive cleaning cycles on my Epson 
2100 last night before the nozzles were fully un-clogged.  These things 
need to be run regularly - mine had been idle for a few weeks.  So I 
think you decided well.

The new roll-paper cutter works very well though.  It finally turned up 
two months after I'd ordered it.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: The Stools by the Window

2005-04-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'll second that.
William Robb wrote:
Would have been better with girls wearing thongs.
b..
- Original Message - From: frank theriault 
Subject: PAW: The Stools by the Window





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I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: First Macro Stuff

2005-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2005, at 8:46 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 9/4/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/8902760/
Well done Boris - that's one of the nicest ladybird pics I've ever 
seen!
Hear hear... great photo.  Put it on the wall.
In these parts we call that plane a microlight.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Cheap digital PS

2005-04-10 Thread Bill Owens
The Wally World where I work has just received a shipment of 3MP PS digital 
cameras.  I haven't seen any results yet, but the specs are pretty 
impressive for a $60.00 digital.  It has 16MB of internal memory, 1.5 inch 
LCD screen and an SD card slot.  We've sold a few to parents for their 
younger children.

Bill 




Speaking of inexpensive PS

2005-04-10 Thread Bill Owens
   Earlier this week my Optio S decided to stop working.  We also recently 
received a shipment of the Pentax Optio 50.  It's not listed on the Pentax 
website, and is apparently built for sale through national accounts such as 
Wal-Mart.  Anyway, it's 5MP, 1.8 inch LCD, SD slot and uses AA batteries 
(2).  Although I haven't installed the software yet, it can also be used as 
a webcam for those that use them, I don't.  Cost is $197.00 US, pretty 
reasonable for a 5MP IMHO.

Bill 




RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
From what I was able to see my Olympus C5050
simply stopped down and captured the image.
With the aperture wide open I could see the sensor
thru the lens the whole time the exposure was being
made. At no time did the iris close.
The 5050 is a prosumer grade, far from a simple
camera.

Here is an article from photo.net which covers
interline transfer and how it differs from the
technology currently used in DSLRs:

http://www.photo.net/equipment/digital/cameras/basics/

It's in the section under Sensor Size.

I'm not trying to be argumentitive but most digital PnS's
are capable of capturing video clips, it is the ability
to capture data in real time that allows this.
They do not need to trip a mechanical shutter for each
frame.
They simply freeze the current image, write it to a buffer,
and go on to the next frame capture.

This was NOT true of many of the early digitals. which
did indeed use a mechanical shutter of sorts.
They however did not capture video or give a real time
preview display.

Bottom line is that everyone's correct, it just depends
on which generation/type of technology is being referred
to.

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:06 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: re: Pentax ist DS shutter.


 On 9 Apr 2005 at 21:17, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  I'm rather astonished that you are all so misinformed and do not
  understand how digital cameras and digital SLRs operate with regard to
  the sensor and shutter...

  Rob,
  The same thing for the Olympus E10/20.

 OK, I submit to your superior knowledge (and distinct lack of tact).

 I haven't owned the E-10 for around 18 months now so my
 recollection is hazy. I
 can only assume that the shutter must be in the light path as
 there is no room
 for in in front of the sensor and behind the beam splitter and it must be
 closed for a very shot period of time after the shutter is
 depressed as the lag
 before image capture is less than 100ms. I expect that the
 aperture leaves are
 used as a leaf shutter but I can't remember noticing it.

 Cheers,


 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek

Sunday, April 10, 2005, 6:24:18 AM, David wrote:
DO NiMH batteries do self-discharge relatively rapidly; even moreso than
DO NiCads.  Fortunately, they don't have as much of a memory issue as
DO NiCds.  They do take several charge-discharge cycles to reach their
DO fullest capacity though.

In all I have read about batteries, it seems to me that the memory
effect is not real, except in very controlled laboratory conditions.
The loss of capacity most people describe to memory effect is just bad
charging technique, overcharging, too rapid charging for the battery
and similar faults. At least that's how I understand it :)

Good light!
   fra



Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek
AC Is DS good enough?
AC http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/41855760

:-)

I another stroke of marketing ingenuinty and design genius (just
remember these silver LTDs on black MZ-S), Pentax succeeded in making
the world's first half-naked transparent camera... Oh god what were
they thinking when they left the shoulders shrouded in black? More
appeal or what?

Good light!
   fra



Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

2005-04-10 Thread brooksdj
Sorry for the caps on in my reply. Gotta look at the screen more.:-)

I have a set of swabs and fluid,but i'm to chicken to use them.

Dave

 Whatever's least invasive and does the job is probably the way to go. 
 It's not hard to see why the manufacturers wouldn't advise anyone to 
 go poking around in there with sticks. I've avoided canned air 
 applied directly and will probably pick up a hurricane blower at some 
 point. The clean soft brush approach seems fairly safe and it does 
 work. I'm definitely not brave enough to be rubbing it with wet 
 swabs. I can't say that it's been much of a problem so far. It will 
 be interesting to see what it's like this summer when I start 
 spending time at county fairs again.
 -- 
 Alan P. Hayes
 






Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

2005-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I keep my camera pointing down as much as possible when changing 
lenses. I also clean my sensors once a week with an ear syringe blower, 
whether I think they need it or not. I did it last night, and couldn't 
see a spec on either. But I think frequent cleanng keeps those specs 
from gaining a tight foothold. I've never had to resort to anything 
more severe than the syringe blower, and that's with two cameras and 21 
months/ 15000 frames of combined use.
Paul
On Apr 9, 2005, at 11:28 PM, David Savage wrote:

Hey I do that (sometimes). But it's more in the hope that the dust
will fall out g
Dave S
On Apr 10, 2005 11:20 AM, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
some photographers
even advocate facing cameras down when changing lenses so the dust 
doesn't fall in?
snip
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Re: A bit OT: Stones in My Pathway

2005-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've been tracking them as well. :-((
On Apr 10, 2005, at 1:51 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 10 Apr 2005 at 7:32, Jens Bladt wrote:
It must be the season for trading 300mm lenses. There's two F 4.5 and 
one FA 4.5
up at ebay at the moment.
Yes I know I was watching them :-(
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RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Williams
 -Original Message-
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Nearly all digital cameras have a mechanical shutter. Only very 
 
 I'm rather astonished that you are all so misinformed and do not 
 understand how digital cameras and digital SLRs operate with regard to 
 the sensor and shutter...
 
 Peter,
 If you look down the barrel of the lens of your A2 and release the 
 shutter, you'll see the shutter operate.
 
 Don,
 The way small sensor digital cameras work is like this:
 
 - Normal focusing/framing/viewing mode, the shutter is OPEN and the 
 sensor chip is in live acquisition mode, refreshing its buffer 
 according to the set refresh rate (30 or 60 fps on the KM A2).
 
 - At the time you press the shutter release to make an exposure, the 
 camera:
 * Sets the focus and exposure values
 * Closes the shutter
 * Clears the sensor buffer, switches the sensor to image capture mode
 * Closes down the aperture
 * Operates the shutter
 * Copies the sensor buffer to the image processing buffer
 * Resets the aperture to fully open
 * Reopens the shutter
 * switches the sensor back to live acquisition mode
 

Godfrey,

We had quite a debate about this way back on the dpreview
Minolta talk forum. I initially said that the A2 had a shutter,
arguements to the contrary convinced me that there was no
shutter. Others said if you look down the lens you can see the
shutter, again this was dismissed as being the aperture mech.
Further arguement to support the no shutter theory was that the
A1 and A2 could do flash synch at full shutter speeds, that is
up to 1/4000th sec.

-- 
Peter Williams 



Impulse Buy, 24/2.8 Sigma AF

2005-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
Could't pass this up for the price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7506096375

Looks to be the same vintage as 2 Sigma zooms I have which are
quite good lenses.
Anyone have any experience with this one?
Of course it's 'broken' (AF noise), but that's what I do, I fix stuff! ;-)

Don



RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Williams
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 OK, I submit to your superior knowledge (and distinct lack of tact). 
 

I feel like it is me who lacks tact, not Godfrey.

-- 
Peter Williams 



Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
I have two sets of NiMH batteries, the Powerex 2200 type that topped the
Imaging-Resource tests. They are amazing. Absolutely worth the money and
highly recommended. I keep one set in the ist-D and one set as backup. I
also have a set of Lithium CRV3 batteries in the bag in case of
emergency but frankly, I've rarely needed to switch to the second set of
NiMH so I've never come close to needing the lithiums.
Get the Powerex 2200's and be happy :)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Further arguement to support the no shutter theory was that the
A1 and A2 could do flash synch at full shutter speeds, that is
up to 1/4000th sec.

I don't know whether or not the A2 has a shutter, but the flash sync
probably doesn't make a difference: If it does have a shutter it's most
likely a leaf shutter so it could flash sync at high speed.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bottom line is that everyone's correct, it just depends
on which generation/type of technology is being referred
to.

Don, I'm really disappointed that you of all people would take this
attitude. There's only one way to answer this question for certain:
Where's your screwdriver?*
g


* For Cotty, one can insert hacksaw in place of screwdriver



-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
I have the screwdriver (and hacksaw AND Dremel!), do you need my
address to send the subject (victim) to? ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:02 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
 
 
 Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bottom line is that everyone's correct, it just depends
 on which generation/type of technology is being referred
 to.
 
 Don, I'm really disappointed that you of all people would take this
 attitude. There's only one way to answer this question for certain:
 Where's your screwdriver?*
 g
 
 
 * For Cotty, one can insert hacksaw in place of screwdriver
 
 
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 



Best mid-speed 70/80-200/210 AF zoom?

2005-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
I have several 70/80-200/210 zooms in the F/4-5.6 range for
autofocus.
All of them have their strengths and weaknesses.
Some are good at the short end and poor at the long end.
Others are just the opposite.
The ATX 80-200/2.8 is fantastic but it's large, heavy and
manual focus.
The F70-210/4-5.6 is good when it wants to be but I get
inconsistent results with it, both exposure and image quality
wise.

**What is your favorite mid-range zoom?**

TIA
Don




Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have the screwdriver (and hacksaw AND Dremel!), do you need my
address to send the subject (victim) to? ;-)

Alas, I have no PS digital. Someone else will have to do the honorable
thing.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Cassino
Thanks to all who replied - looks like I should fire up the charger!
I still have the original batteries that camera with the *ist-D, which I 
suppose are lithium.  there are just 2 batteries, each on filling two AA 
slots.  Those are my backups - though I should probably use them before they 
get too old and put some lithiums in the bag as a backup.

- MCC
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Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - 
From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Battery Management


I usually just charge whatever I can and not worry about the fine points. 
Don't use a flash. switch to lithiums. Lately, I've been having batteries 
quit on me that I thought were charged, which is a nuisance even if you 
tend to carry a lot of batteries. I made one interesting discovery due to 
this recently though. All of my rechargeables had pooped out on me so I 
went looking for some disposables so I could keep shooting. I generally get 
the lithium AAs which really last pretty well. this time all I could find 
were alkalines so I got the fanciest ones they had (why not?) and was 
pleasantly surprised when I got around 150 shots out of them. I'm wondering 
if the istD has the low voltage cutout situation you here about with some 
other cameras.



Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Cassino
From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get the impression that a lot of what people describe as memory problems 
are really just out and out battery damage due to overheating and probably 
other stuff.

I have an Energizer 30 minute charger. The batteries are HOT when they come 
out - they won't physically burn your fingers, but they are too hot to 
comfortably hold in your hand.

I bought this a couple of years ago to replace an older Rayovac charger that 
took about 8 hours to charge up a set of NMHi batteries. Unfortunately the 
Rayovac was damaged when a battery leaked inside of it.

I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't take a 
charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much use they get 
since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and lots of flashes. 
But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?

Thanks -
MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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SMC Pentax-A 2.8/28mm - like new

2005-04-10 Thread Jens Bladt
There's one of these up for auction on a Danish auction site.
I suspect it won't go very high. Ending April 18th. Currently 20 USD.
I've already got one. Anybody intested?

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. april 2005 16:19
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Battery Management


From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I get the impression that a lot of what people describe as memory problems
are really just out and out battery damage due to overheating and probably
other stuff.



I have an Energizer 30 minute charger. The batteries are HOT when they come
out - they won't physically burn your fingers, but they are too hot to
comfortably hold in your hand.

I bought this a couple of years ago to replace an older Rayovac charger that
took about 8 hours to charge up a set of NMHi batteries. Unfortunately the
Rayovac was damaged when a battery leaked inside of it.

I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't take a
charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much use they get
since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and lots of flashes.
But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?

Thanks -

MCC

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Cotty wrote:
Like most printers, use it at least once a week to counter ink drying 
out
in the head(s). I have  a Canon S9000 that I bought used and eventually
had to replace the head, which was only about 75 GBP and an easy swap.
It's such a good printer that for me it was worth it.
I used to have this problem with the Epson 1270: leave it two weeks and 
then try to print and the heads would take five or six cleanings. The 
HP 7960 has yet to clog a nozzle in similar use, and the Epson 1270 
(now that it runs MIS UT2 QuadTone inks) hasn't clogged in a year.

Godfrey


Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Mark,
Those batteries that came with the camera are 3CV lithiums, and they 
won't get too old for another eight or nine years. They're great as 
backups.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:

Thanks to all who replied - looks like I should fire up the charger!
I still have the original batteries that camera with the *ist-D, which 
I suppose are lithium.  there are just 2 batteries, each on filling 
two AA slots.  Those are my backups - though I should probably use 
them before they get too old and put some lithiums in the bag as a 
backup.

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - From: Alan P. Hayes 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Battery Management


I usually just charge whatever I can and not worry about the fine 
points. Don't use a flash. switch to lithiums. Lately, I've been 
having batteries quit on me that I thought were charged, which is a 
nuisance even if you tend to carry a lot of batteries. I made one 
interesting discovery due to this recently though. All of my 
rechargeables had pooped out on me so I went looking for some 
disposables so I could keep shooting. I generally get the lithium AAs 
which really last pretty well. this time all I could find were 
alkalines so I got the fanciest ones they had (why not?) and was 
pleasantly surprised when I got around 150 shots out of them. I'm 
wondering if the istD has the low voltage cutout situation you here 
about with some other cameras.




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Generally, high temps are a problem only if they cause the batteries to 
vent, but a cooling fan is a good precaution. If you have a fan from an 
old computer, it will make a perfect charging fan. If you don't have 
one, you can pick one up at Radio Shack. Just position it to blow on 
the batteries while they charge. NIMH batteries won't last three years. 
They're usually goners after about two years.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:

From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get the impression that a lot of what people describe as memory 
problems are really just out and out battery damage due to 
overheating and probably other stuff.

I have an Energizer 30 minute charger. The batteries are HOT when they 
come out - they won't physically burn your fingers, but they are too 
hot to comfortably hold in your hand.

I bought this a couple of years ago to replace an older Rayovac 
charger that took about 8 hours to charge up a set of NMHi batteries. 
Unfortunately the Rayovac was damaged when a battery leaked inside of 
it.

I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't 
take a charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much 
use they get since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and 
lots of flashes. But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?

Thanks -
MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Alan P. Hayes
At 9:24 PM -0700 4/9/05, David Oswald wrote:
I do have a quick question for the Lithium AA people.  The manual 
for my *ist-DS states that Lithium AA's aren't recommended for the 
*ist-DS.  Is that a warning I should take seriously?  What's the 
issue?

Dave
Really? I just took a look at the PDF version of the Ds manual I 
downloaded during the camera shopping phase and it says Li AAs are 
cool in two different places, pp.26  191.
--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts

Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm


Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Alan P. Hayes
Those are lithium batteries, CRV3s. As someone mentioned, lithiums 
have an extremely long shelf life, up to 10 years. I haven't used the 
ones that came with my D either though I've used one set of the 
Lithium AAs with this camera. Of course, now I'm not sure where they 
are! The only real drawbacks to Lithiums are the expense and the fact 
that they can be a little hard to get out in the field. The AAs, at 
least, are probably cheaper per shot than any other disposables. They 
don't stop in the cold, either.

At 10:11 AM -0400 4/10/05, Mark Cassino wrote:
Thanks to all who replied - looks like I should fire up the charger!
I still have the original batteries that camera with the *ist-D, 
which I suppose are lithium.  there are just 2 batteries, each on 
filling two AA slots.  Those are my backups - though I should 
probably use them before they get too old and put some lithiums in 
the bag as a backup.

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Battery Management
I usually just charge whatever I can and not worry about the fine 
points. Don't use a flash. switch to lithiums. Lately, I've been 
having batteries quit on me that I thought were charged, which is a 
nuisance even if you tend to carry a lot of batteries. I made one 
interesting discovery due to this recently though. All of my 
rechargeables had pooped out on me so I went looking for some 
disposables so I could keep shooting. I generally get the lithium 
AAs which really last pretty well. this time all I could find were 
alkalines so I got the fanciest ones they had (why not?) and was 
pleasantly surprised when I got around 150 shots out of them. I'm 
wondering if the istD has the low voltage cutout situation you here 
about with some other cameras.

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm


Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mark,

I don't know squat about batteries, especially these newer types, however,
I recall reading somewhere that rapidly charging a battery is not the ideal
way to recharge, and that doing so can shorten battery life.  IAC, it's
always been my impression that a slower charge is better for longevity.  I
just wonder if there's any truth to that, or if there ever was.

That said, the rechargeable lithium ion bats that are in the various Sony
cameras that I've used have lasted a very long time  years, actually. 
The bat on my first camera lasted three or four years before finally
getting to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge for a long time, and
the bats in my current Sony, which are at least two years old, are still
going strong.  In both instances the charging process used is on the slow
side, taking about four hours or so to fully recharge.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Mark Cassino 

 From: Alan P. Hayes

 I get the impression that a lot of what people describe as memory
problems 
 are really just out and out battery damage due to overheating and
probably 
 other stuff.

 

 I have an Energizer 30 minute charger. The batteries are HOT when they
come 
 out - they won't physically burn your fingers, but they are too hot to 
 comfortably hold in your hand.

 I bought this a couple of years ago to replace an older Rayovac charger
that 
 took about 8 hours to charge up a set of NMHi batteries. Unfortunately
the 
 Rayovac was damaged when a battery leaked inside of it.

 I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't take
a 
 charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much use they get 
 since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and lots of
flashes. 
 But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?




Small enablement

2005-04-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Got a Metz 60-33 Reflex Screen, new, off ebay for appr. 50USD incl.
shipping:
http://tinyurl.com/5od5g
This is one of the things that could NOT be found by searching ebay
worldwide. I searched Germany exclusively!
Now I can shoot with softer light from my Metz-hammerheads (GN 45 or 60).
:-))

And one more thing.
I got the wireless remote radio flash trigger from joesphotoauction2000.net
for the camera club studio - gets current supply from the AC cord to the
strobe. Transmitter has a 12V 23 A battery. Works perfectly!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt



Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Peter Williams wrote:
We had quite a debate about this way back on the dpreview
Minolta talk forum. I initially said that the A2 had a shutter,
arguements to the contrary convinced me that there was no
shutter. Others said if you look down the lens you can see the
shutter, again this was dismissed as being the aperture mech.
Further arguement to support the no shutter theory was that the
A1 and A2 could do flash synch at full shutter speeds, that is
up to 1/4000th sec.
There is no reason to debate this. It is a fact, not an opinion.
The sensor operates in two modes ... one where the image buffer is 
refreshed under software control without operation of the shutter used 
for focusing, framing and video capture, and another one which is used 
with the shutter for still image capture.

You can see the shutter operate quite clearly:
Set lens to full telephoto
Set exposure to manual
Set shutter speed to Bulb
Set aperture to wide open
Use a penlight with a narrowly focused beam and shine it down the lens
Operate the shutter button.
You'll see the shutter close, reopen, close again, then reopen. If you 
set the aperture to anything other than wide open, you'll also see the 
operation of the aperture mechanism ... whether the shutter implements 
the aperture or not I'm not entirely sure, but it is a quite common 
design in modern leaf shutters used in this sort of camera.

The reason the A2 can perform flash sync at 1/4000 second is that it is 
a leaf shutter design: there is a point in the operation of a leaf 
shutter that all blades are fully open at all shutter speeds.

(At 1/4000 second, the total exposure may be less than the time the 
flash unit's tube is illuminated ... typically you need to pick a sync 
speed which holds the blades' fully open position for anywhere from 
1/250-1/1000 second to obtain the full power of higher powered 
electronic flash units or studio strobes. For partial power, however, 
1/4000 is adequate since most autoflash units have a flash duration 
range from around 1/250 to 1/10,000 sec.)

Godfrey


Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread mike wilson
Frantisek wrote:
Sunday, April 10, 2005, 6:24:18 AM, David wrote:
DO NiMH batteries do self-discharge relatively rapidly; even moreso than
DO NiCads.  Fortunately, they don't have as much of a memory issue as
DO NiCds.  They do take several charge-discharge cycles to reach their
DO fullest capacity though.
In all I have read about batteries, it seems to me that the memory
effect is not real, except in very controlled laboratory conditions.
The loss of capacity most people describe to memory effect is just bad
charging technique, overcharging, too rapid charging for the battery
and similar faults. At least that's how I understand it :)
Also caused by overdischarging of batteries - that is, those that are 
made up of groups of cells.  This can lead to one cell becoming partly 
reverse polarised and damaged, reducing its capacity.  This is another 
thing to be thankful to Pentax for.  AA cells are not susceptible to 
this - all the proprietary (= expensive) batteries are.

Good light!
   fra




Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2005, at 2:53 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
From what I was able to see my Olympus C5050
simply stopped down and captured the image.
With the aperture wide open I could see the sensor
thru the lens the whole time the exposure was being
made. At no time did the iris close.
The 5050 is a prosumer grade, far from a simple
camera. ...
The Olympus C5050 indeed does have a mechanical shutter. I borrowed one 
for a short time and had a C8080WZ for a while. Both have a mechanical 
leaf shutter. Both also support interline transfer for motion capture. 
One of my points of curiosity about any camera is to see the shutter 
operate ... If you shine a light down the lens and watch you can see it 
operate; you can also hear it (with all the stupid shutter emulation 
sounds turned off, of course ;-). Sometimes it is a little hard to see 
since the iris and shutter mechanisms in these cameras is so small.

Bob's statement is not entirely correct and somewhat misleading. Just 
because SLR sensors do not have interline transfer mode and require a 
shutter does not imply that small sensor camera CCDs use interline 
transfer for all exposure timing operations.

Godfrey


RE: PESO:Another Sunset with Wires

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Looks like there's a new way of capturing sunsets on the PDML ... ;-))

Actually, I like the concept, although neither your photo nor Bruce's did
very much for me.  However, the idea of showing the reality of city or
urban environments rather than trying to avoid them, or eliminate them with
Photoshop trickery, is a rather refreshing approach.

One quick comment: the birds in the background are very distracting, and
diminish somewhat the distraction and annoyance caused by the wires.  Lose
the birds LOL  

==

Don Sanderson wrote:

Stepped outside to call the dogs and saw this:

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Sunset.htm

Ran back in and grabbed the D with K35/2 and had time for two
quick shots before it was gone.
I too wish the wires weren't there but who knows, maybe someone
will think they make a statement. ;-)

Don





Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Alan P. Hayes
I find that I don't trust my own anecdotal evidence much when it 
comes to rechargeable batteries. That said, different chargers and 
different batteries definitely vary quite a bit in terms of how much 
heat they generate when charging. I've had a couple of sets that 
appeared to have gotten fried by chargers, not before getting a 
reasonable amount of use out of them, fortunately. I'm using a 
Lightning Pack 4000 from RipVan100 which seems pretty good, and 
definitely shuts off if the batteries start to overheat. You have to 
restart the charger manually when they do!

This is the only reasonably systematic discussion of how actual 
chargers perform that I've found.

http://www.crypto.com/chargers/
At 10:18 AM -0400 4/10/05, Mark Cassino wrote:
From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get the impression that a lot of what people describe as memory 
problems are really just out and out battery damage due to 
overheating and probably other stuff.

I have an Energizer 30 minute charger. The batteries are HOT when 
they come out - they won't physically burn your fingers, but they 
are too hot to comfortably hold in your hand.

I bought this a couple of years ago to replace an older Rayovac 
charger that took about 8 hours to charge up a set of NMHi 
batteries. Unfortunately the Rayovac was damaged when a battery 
leaked inside of it.

I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't 
take a charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much 
use they get since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, 
and lots of flashes. But could the high temps of the charger be a 
problem?

Thanks -
MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm


RE: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Amita Guha
 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  We do the same thing, except we number our sets. We must 
 have at least 
  8 sets of four NiMHs. We have both a fast charger and an overnight 
  charger that does more than just AAs. I've found that I can't use 
  alkalines in the D. I got maybe 15 shots off a set the one 
 time I had 
  to use them. (Of course, they could have been bad batteries; I got 
  them at a newsstand. :)
 
 This seems to be a common failing with alkalines.  Even in the lowly 
 Optio, you will only get half a dozen or so from a set of good name 
 batteries, that then go on to provide loads of light in a flash. 
 Another joy of digital 8-)
 
 mike

Very true. My little Optio 230 didn't like alkalines either. I had to buy
the other kind of battery instead (forget which one; Olympus made the
commonly-available ones). They were much more expensive but lasted quite a
long time. 

Amita



Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Cassino
Thanks, Paul - that's good to hear. They'll stay as backups for a while 
then!

- MCC
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Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Battery Management


Hi Mark,
Those batteries that came with the camera are 3CV lithiums, and they won't 
get too old for another eight or nine years. They're great as backups.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:

Thanks to all who replied - looks like I should fire up the charger!
I still have the original batteries that camera with the *ist-D, which I 
suppose are lithium.  there are just 2 batteries, each on filling two AA 
slots.  Those are my backups - though I should probably use them before 
they get too old and put some lithiums in the bag as a backup.

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - From: Alan P. Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Battery Management

I usually just charge whatever I can and not worry about the fine 
points. Don't use a flash. switch to lithiums. Lately, I've been having 
batteries quit on me that I thought were charged, which is a nuisance 
even if you tend to carry a lot of batteries. I made one interesting 
discovery due to this recently though. All of my rechargeables had 
pooped out on me so I went looking for some disposables so I could keep 
shooting. I generally get the lithium AAs which really last pretty well. 
this time all I could find were alkalines so I got the fanciest ones 
they had (why not?) and was pleasantly surprised when I got around 150 
shots out of them. I'm wondering if the istD has the low voltage cutout 
situation you here about with some other cameras.





Re: 300mm enabled

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:47:58 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:

 [...] I can't understand for the life of me why they didn't provide a
 removable lens mount on the FA300/4.5 :-(

That's why I waited for an F* 300/4.5 to show up.  It took a while, but
I _really_ like the tripod mount on the F* version of the lens.  Plus,
I only paid around $6-700 for it a couple of years ago.  The cost of a
300/2.8 equates to a good chunk of my annual motor racing budget, so
that ain't likely to happen. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Herb Chong
high temps will ruin the NiMH batteries. it will greatly shorten the life. 
this is part of why ultra-fast chargers are bad for them too. they heat up 
more than the slower chargers.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Battery Management


I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't take 
a charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much use they 
get since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and lots of 
flashes. But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?



Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Taking Godfrey's suggestion, it's clear that my little Sony Cybershot
DSC-S85 has a shutter.  I can hear it as well as see it.  With other
cameras, YMMV.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 On Apr 10, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Peter Williams wrote:

  We had quite a debate about this way back on the dpreview
  Minolta talk forum. I initially said that the A2 had a shutter,
  arguements to the contrary convinced me that there was no
  shutter. Others said if you look down the lens you can see the
  shutter, again this was dismissed as being the aperture mech.
  Further arguement to support the no shutter theory was that the
  A1 and A2 could do flash synch at full shutter speeds, that is
  up to 1/4000th sec.

[snip]

 You can see the shutter operate quite clearly:
 Set lens to full telephoto
 Set exposure to manual
 Set shutter speed to Bulb
 Set aperture to wide open
 Use a penlight with a narrowly focused beam and shine it down the lens
 Operate the shutter button.

 You'll see the shutter close, reopen, close again, then reopen. If you 
 set the aperture to anything other than wide open, you'll also see the 
 operation of the aperture mechanism ... 




RE: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Don,

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:21:15 -0500, Don Sanderson wrote:

 Neat shot Doug, must be one of those Leafus Nurturus trees! ;-)

Thanks, Don.  I've been watching that shot develop since the middle of
last summer, as the tree grew around the lamppost and the ?fern? below
it.  I don't know why, but it catches my eye every time I walk past it.

 Camera does a great job.

The only problem I'm having with it is that it's so small and so light,
I have a really hard time keeping it still for hand holding longer
exposures.  So much so that I've dug out my little desktop tripod.  I
mainly got it for snapshots and getting photos for eBay ads, though, so
this isn't a big problem.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

2005-04-10 Thread Butch Black
Hi Alan
Welcome. There are a few of us living in Ma., though most of us are East. 
Unfortunately, we are not as organized as other geographic areas, so there 
is no MPDML yet. Toronto, D.C., N.Y.C., S.F., and a few other areas have 
informal groups that occasionally get together. I've been on the list for a 
few years now and have found it a wealth of knowledge in almost any subject 
imaginable.

Butch 




Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

2005-04-10 Thread David Oswald

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Apr 10, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Cotty wrote:
Like most printers, use it at least once a week to counter ink drying out
in the head(s). I have  a Canon S9000 that I bought used and eventually
had to replace the head, which was only about 75 GBP and an easy swap.
It's such a good printer that for me it was worth it.

I used to have this problem with the Epson 1270: leave it two weeks and 
then try to print and the heads would take five or six cleanings. The HP 
7960 has yet to clog a nozzle in similar use, and the Epson 1270 (now 
that it runs MIS UT2 QuadTone inks) hasn't clogged in a year.

To me, while the Canon S820 was good enough while it worked, it's not 
so good that I wouldn't ever replace it.  As for putting it through six 
cleanings, I've put it through at least a dozen deep cleaning cycles, 
and several more regular cleaning cycles, plus swabbed it with alcohol a 
few times, and rubbed it with a damp cloth.  There's been no improvement 
whatsoever.  When I looked up replacement heads, they were around $100. 
 For $200, I get a new printer, new heads, and heads that get replaced 
every time I replace the ink.  I know the consumables are more expensive 
with HP, but after this experience, I am ok with that too.



Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Cotty,

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:38:52 +0100, Cotty wrote:

  In celebration of finally getting a digital of
  some sort, here's my first PESO.  
 
 http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html

 Doug Does Digital ;-)

Well, technically, I've been scanning my film and doing my own inkjet
prints for a couple of years. :-)  But it is different to be able to
pull the shots straight out of the camera, instead of having to drop
off film and wait for it.

 Nice one mate. Like it.

Thanks.  Where I work, we've got a little green space between the
buildings that we smokers use and that people can go to just to relax
and think (it's a software company).  This shot was taken in that
little area, where there are a couple of those red trees, whatever the
heck they are.  It's remarkably quiet and relaxing for being only 200m
from the motorway. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: First Macro Stuff

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Cassino
Nice shot of the ladybug, Boris - is looks to be quite sharp and the DOF is 
just right.

I'm not familiar with the Tamron - I assume the 2x adapter lets you go to 2x 
lifesized?

- MCC
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- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: First Macro Stuff


Hi!
Well, the poppies are still blooming. Galia so much wanted to have a photo 
of ladybug (if you see the pic and I am mistaken in English, please 
correct me)... So I took my tripod, attached a 2x matching converter to my 
Tamron 90/2.5 SP and headed to the field...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/8902760/
Also, while on the field, we've been attacked by the rather known flying 
objects... Though I cannot identify these objects with any degree of 
certainty...

This time, my Tamron 90/2.5 SP was without the converter...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/8902759/
Comments are welcome, as usual.
Boris




Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Bruce,

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:22:54 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 DF http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html
 Well, I like it.  The colors go nicely together the composition shows
 off the tree quite well.  What kind of tree is that, anyway?

Beats the heck out of me.  The only think I know less about than
horticulture is women. ;-)  There are a couple of more of those trees
in the little green space where this shot was taken.

Here are some more shots of it, including details of the leaves, if
that will help with identification.

http://www.NutDriver.org/IMGP0037.jpg
http://www.NutDriver.org/IMGP0039.jpg
http://www.NutDriver.org/IMGP0040.jpg
http://www.NutDriver.org/IMGP0041.jpg
http://www.NutDriver.org/IMGP0042.jpg

 Nice work with your first digital!

Thank you.  It's a scene that catches my eye every time I go by it.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Boris,

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:46:40 +0200, Boris Liberman wrote:

  http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html
 
 I should say that this very photo leaves me
 indifferent. I neither dislike it nor really like it.

Well, I didn't really expect it to be universally appealing, since I'm
not quite sure what about it appeals to me. :-)  It might be a personal
thing.  But that view catches my eye every time I walk by it, for some
reason.

 Although, somehow it seems to me you will be shooting much more now...

Probably.  The cost is only part of it.  The other part is not having
to mess around with dropping off and picking up the film, and dealing
with scanning it myself.  I suspect the Optio is going to drive me to
get a DSLR sooner than I would have. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




RE: A bit OT: Stones in My Pathway

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:32:48 +0200, Jens Bladt wrote:

 It must be the season for trading 300mm lenses. There's two F 4.5 and one FA
 4.5 up at ebay at the moment.

If I didn't already have one, I'd jump all over one of those Fs.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Cassino
Maybe I'll add a slow charger to stable and only use the fast one when I 
need to - though the fan idea sounds interesting as well (I have a small fan 
any I can use.)

- MCC
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- Original Message - 
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Battery Management


high temps will ruin the NiMH batteries. it will greatly shorten the life. 
this is part of why ultra-fast chargers are bad for them too. they heat up 
more than the slower chargers.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Battery Management


I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't take 
a charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much use they 
get since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and lots of 
flashes. But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?




Re: Speaking of inexpensive PS

2005-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:34:12 -0400, Bill Owens wrote:

 [...] Pentax Optio 50 [...] 5MP, 1.8 inch LCD, SD slot and uses AA
 batteries (2).  [...] Cost is $197.00 US, pretty reasonable for a
 5MP IMHO.

Pretty annoying since I just spent almost a hundred bucks more for the
S5i.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: PESO - Gobsmacking Light

2005-04-10 Thread John Forbes
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:28:13 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
Just writing some emails before dinner, raining outside, noticed the
trees over in the east were suddenly glowing crimson. Wandered over  
into
the kitchen to look west, and saw this scene. I dashed back and grabbed
the 1D, attaching the SMC-A*85mm f/1.4 as I walked outside and into the
rain - carpet slippers onto the grass, and rattled off 9 shots. This at
ISO 320, 1/125 @ f/5.6, handheld.

3 deg of rotation, slight crop, no alterations to colour ( used auto
levels in PS, with standard USM) - I swear to God, this is as I saw it.
Only lasted another 2 minutes and it was gone.
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare5.html
  I was told that swearing shouldn't be done in public... You know, the  
bAd words? :)
 Cotty, you seem to have outdone yourself...
 Now, be a good chap, and explain to me what is it gobsmacking? Who  
is gob and why it should be smacking or smacked?
Not who, what.  Gob is slang for mouth.  So gobsmacked means hit in the  
mouth.  In other words, rendered speechless.  Not polite but a common  
term for something that astonishes.

So people who talk too much are said to be gobby.  It's found more oop  
Nawff than dan Saff.

John

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OT: photo paper for Xerox Phaser 8400

2005-04-10 Thread Jim Colwell
Does anybody have experience with the Xerox Phaser 8400 colour printer ?
The recommended high res photo paper is Phaser Professional Solid Ink High
Resolution Photo Paper.  I'm going to order a package to try it out, but
it's not easily available here in Halifax NS.  Any recommendations for other
papers ?  Thanks, Jim. www.jcolwell.ca 





Re: First Macro Stuff

2005-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
Nice shot of the ladybug, Boris - is looks to be quite sharp and the DOF 
is just right.

I'm not familiar with the Tamron - I assume the 2x adapter lets you go 
to 2x lifesized?
No, Mark, you're quite wrong. It is very simple. The lens itself is 
90/2.5 that can go only 1:2 lifesize. With adaptor it becomes 180/5 
(which is way cool on its own right) that gives 1:1 reproduction ratio.

I should say that this Tamron dedicated flatfield 2x teleconverter seems 
to work better than Vivitar 2x macro focusing teleconverter... But then 
of course, it could be that the lens and the converter were designed to 
match.

This shot is rather tight crop. But because of the rest of the frame 
being rather smooth, I am going to try to print this at least 20x30 (cm 
of course) and see how digital fares this time.

Boris


Re: Speaking of inexpensive PS

2005-04-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens

Subject: Speaking of inexpensive PS

   Earlier this week my Optio S decided to stop working.  We also recently 
received a shipment of the Pentax Optio 50.  It's not listed on the Pentax 
website, and is apparently built for sale through national accounts such 
as Wal-Mart.  Anyway, it's 5MP, 1.8 inch LCD, SD slot and uses AA 
batteries (2).  Although I haven't installed the software yet, it can also 
be used as a webcam for those that use them, I don't.  Cost is $197.00 US, 
pretty reasonable for a 5MP IMHO.
Damn.
Now We are going to kill Pentax..
William Robb 




Re: Cheap digital PS

2005-04-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens

Subject: Cheap digital PS

The Wally World where I work has just received a shipment of 3MP PS 
digital cameras.  I haven't seen any results yet, but the specs are pretty 
impressive for a $60.00 digital.  It has 16MB of internal memory, 1.5 inch 
LCD screen and an SD card slot.  We've sold a few to parents for their 
younger children.
We're getting something similar.
Prone to failure, and you really want to check out the image quality.
William Robb 




Re: Best mid-speed 70/80-200/210 AF zoom?

2005-04-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Don Sanderson 
Subject: Best mid-speed 70/80-200/210 AF zoom?


**What is your favorite mid-range zoom?**
I use an FA77/1.8 or an M150/3.5, and I zoom with my feet.
William Robb


Re: Small enablement

2005-04-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert

Subject: RE: Small enablement

On 10 Apr 2005 at 12:47, Peter Williams wrote:
I have never, ever *got* colour IR.
I have shot and loved the BW IR film, but just cannot
for the life of me enjoy the results of the colour stuff.
BW  colour IR films are technical films, however they have artistic 
appeal to
some. There's nothing really to get, it's just like cross processing of
slides, some people like it, some don't, different horses...
I used to shoot Ektachrome IR film for fun. (I think it was still E-2 
process or some such) with an orange filter.
It was pretty funky.

William Robb 




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a lot of experience with nicads from the days when my son and I 
raced electric radio control cars. Slow charging would give you maximum 
run time. However, fast charging delivered maximum amperage, which is 
what we were after. We charged at 6 amps until the battery voltage 
peaked. Then just before setting the car down on the track, we would 
peak the batteries once more. We kept a cooling fan on them all the 
time, but they still got very warm. Some of the very serious 
factory-backed racers used to go to the starting line with a push cart 
that held their battery charger and power supply. They would keep the 
charger in place until the last possible second. After a race, the 
batteries would be connected to a device that virtually shorted them 
out. It provided about 1.5 ohm resistance on a dead short circuit. This 
drained the batteries in seconds. This device was also used to 
condition new batteries, to teach them to discharge quickly at very 
high amperage. Those factory racers would sometimes discard a set of 
batteries after only a few five minute races, because they lost their 
ability to deliver peak voltage and high amperage in a hurry.  It 
wasn't unusual to cause cells to vent while charging. After that, they 
were toast. There was one series where maximum run time was important 
because the heats were longer. For that kind of racing, slow overnight 
trickle charging was the order of the day. I don't know if any of this 
applies to nimh batteries, but I slow charge mine.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Mark,
I don't know squat about batteries, especially these newer types, 
however,
I recall reading somewhere that rapidly charging a battery is not the 
ideal
way to recharge, and that doing so can shorten battery life.  IAC, it's
always been my impression that a slower charge is better for 
longevity.  I
just wonder if there's any truth to that, or if there ever was.

That said, the rechargeable lithium ion bats that are in the various 
Sony
cameras that I've used have lasted a very long time  years, 
actually.
The bat on my first camera lasted three or four years before finally
getting to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge for a long time, 
and
the bats in my current Sony, which are at least two years old, are 
still
going strong.  In both instances the charging process used is on the 
slow
side, taking about four hours or so to fully recharge.

Shel

[Original Message]
From: Mark Cassino

From: Alan P. Hayes
I get the impression that a lot of what people describe as memory
problems
are really just out and out battery damage due to overheating and
probably
other stuff.

I have an Energizer 30 minute charger. The batteries are HOT when they
come
out - they won't physically burn your fingers, but they are too hot to
comfortably hold in your hand.
I bought this a couple of years ago to replace an older Rayovac 
charger
that
took about 8 hours to charge up a set of NMHi batteries. Unfortunately
the
Rayovac was damaged when a battery leaked inside of it.
I've been tossing NiHI that are in the 3 year old range - they won't 
take
a
charge from the energizer charger. It's hard to say how much use they 
get
since they have been used in the *ist-D, CoolPix 990, and lots of
flashes.
But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?




Re: Best mid-speed 70/80-200/210 AF zoom?

2005-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
I have several 70/80-200/210 zooms in the F/4-5.6 range for
autofocus.
All of them have their strengths and weaknesses.
Some are good at the short end and poor at the long end.
Others are just the opposite.
The ATX 80-200/2.8 is fantastic but it's large, heavy and
manual focus.
The F70-210/4-5.6 is good when it wants to be but I get
inconsistent results with it, both exposure and image quality
wise.
**What is your favorite mid-range zoom?**
Mine is the one that gives you inconsistent results. I find it quite 
excellent. I had Soligor 70-222/3.5 C/D that was very heavy. Though I 
don't think Soligor was sharper than Pentax... And it had this sandy 
bokeh - very odd...

I've seen Jostein's Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX that is huge compared to F70-210...
In fact, me so thinks that in mid-speed 70-200 zoom category you cannot 
get the lens that has no weaknesses. May be it would be a time for you 
to move to fast f2.8 glass... Or you can buy some primes in the focal 
lengths you use most...

Just my pennies.
Boris


Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
Let say you have not shot your *ist-D or flashes for 6 weeks. You have 
several sets of NiMH batteries.  You know that the now stale batteries 
will poop out quickly in your *ist-D, but will probably hold their own 
in a flash unit.
You can use NiMH in Pentax flashes? You really can? Like AF 220T can 
take NiMHs? That's new to me.

You decide to go out shooting, but for all you know, youll wind up with 
no shots using either the DSLR or the flash

Do you ---
1 Recharge everything; after all, the batteries are stale
I would recharge the batteries I knew were dead. I wouldn't care for 
memory effect.

2 Drain everything and then recharge to eliminate any possible 
memory  assuming (of course) that your charger does not already drain 
and charge.
I don't think that potential loss of capacity due to memory can make or 
break my day...

3 Recharge a couple set of batteries for the camera, let the 
other drain out in the flash and recharge the later.
No, but then again I did not know about 1. above.
4 Stop worrying and just shoot, replace the batteries as needed, 
and if you come up short at the end of the day, switch to film
Sometimes I take my MZ-6 with my just for such occasion.
So  should I fire up the charger? Start draining batteries, or just 
stop worrying?
The last option is the most viable to me :). Just charge the suckers as 
necessary.

I have two sets of GP batteries at 2000 and 2300 MAh that I use. I also 
bought a set of Minwa (noname, I suppose) 2300 MAhs that I've put in my 
wireless keyboard, which probably wasn't too good an idea after all.

When I go for a shoot where I know I may run out of juice I would charge 
one set full (the other is in the camera). I would also take with me the 
batteries that came with the camera - the disposables...

So far, I've been left batteryless only once (Jostein can attest to 
this) and since then I've learned at least some of the lesson.

Just my cents...
Boris


Z-5 and Z-5p???

2005-04-10 Thread Rick Womer
I just picked up my Pentax poster from the Post Office
(thank you Stan!), and it is great--though l-a-r-g-e,
and goodness knows where I'll put it (my wife has
already vetoed the living room and bedroom).

Anywa Z-5 and Z-5p are depicted; they look
a lot like the Z-1 and Z-1p. I've never heard of them,
though.  What were they?

Rick

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2005-04-10 Thread Rick Womer
What other PDML subscribers are in the Philadelphia
area?

I hereby volunteer to organize a gathering in July. (I
know it's a bit early, but I need to arrange my
on-call weekends pretty soon). Contact me off-list if
interested.  We'll try to find a consensus weekend.

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Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek
MC But could the high temps of the charger be a problem?

I think so. Of course the cells could be nearing their lifecycle
limit, too. IMHO cells should never be hot in the charger, either
becauses it charges them too rapidly or it is a closed lid charger
without good venting. It shortens their life. RC models people
superquickcharge their cells at insane currents, but they also usually
use industrial grade batteries which are more permissive, expensive
chargers with computer connection and conditioning and they are all
insane anyway ;-)

Good light!
   fra



Pentax Digital Spotmeter baffles - DIY

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek
Hi,
   I have just acquired the little PDS to use with my meterless Leica.
   What a gem! I thought of getting a Sekonic L408 (with ambient light
   reading too), but I found this used one first (and cheaply). And I
   can use it in the dark too, unlike the Sekonic which doesn't have
   any display light.

   I ask for some repair (more like modding) tips please.
   
   Now, the best PDS are ZoneVII modified, I heard here. But I will be
   mostly using it for BW, where the slight colour inaccuracy of any
   unmodified meter isn't so critical.

   However, it does have one lack - the internals are still quite
   reflective. I tried shining a bright LED lamp into it (not
   operating of course) and though the lens has SMC, the metal insides
   are not flocked/baffled well.

   I thought of modifying it myself adding better baffling or painting
   it with more light-sucking paint (I have already had the analog
   spotmeter V open for repair, including the lens).

   I want to ask what would be best for baffling and flocking the
   interior. There are two circular baffles, which are unfortunately
   painted with not-that-darkhole-black paint. And also the huge
   chamber housing the prism is painted in a sort of semi-gloss paint
   (which does cause reflections).

   It is very good even now, but I would like it to get better with
   glare resistance.

   Perhaps paint is not good enough - I have this self-adhesive
   flocking paper that really sucks light like a black hole, or
   perhaps some black velur type cloth could be used. I have used the
   flocking paper in my Pentacon Six (now THAT's a shiny mirror
   chamber - painted _glossy_ gray!) with great success, but it does
   have some amount of the material coming of as fine dust. Do you
   think this could pose a problem in the spotmeter? It shouldn't get
   on the sensor should it? After all the metering cell is probably
   cemented onto the prism, and the area I want to flock is well
   before the prism.

   Also, are there any pitfals disassembling this unit? The Spotmeter
   V was very easy to open, but I still wanted to ask first.

   Many thanks!

Frantisek



Re: Impulse Buy, 24/2.8 Sigma AF

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek
DS Anyone have any experience with this one?
DS Of course it's 'broken' (AF noise), but that's what I do, I fix stuff! ;-)

Yep I had one in Nikon AF mount. The mechanics are horrible (but you
already saw it yourself, probably). It makes a grinding sound during
AF even when new, and the focus helicoid or AF gears can get torn down
pretty fast. OTOH, it was very sharp. Not that flare resistant, so use
a hood.

Interestingly, the second sample I had came from a friend
photojournalist, who abused it in Middle East and Russia and elsewhere
for about 8 years. Most of the paint came off, the AF was sluggish,
it had fallen on stones many many times, but it still worked, and even
resolved details well! The extruding rear element metal baffle was
completely dinged from all the falls, but it did protect the glass
well. So apart from the AF gears, it's a pretty tough lens. I didn't
use it in AF because I feared it could damage the camera's motor.

Yep, even the lens barrel is completely metal (although it is coated
with black rubber coating, this coating was almost nonexistend on my
lens g). The only bad quality issue with this lens is the AF, in my
opinion.

Some here on the list said that it resolves better than the FA*2/24mm
(even on film).

Good light!
   fra



Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek

Sunday, April 10, 2005, 5:28:27 AM, David wrote:
DS Hey I do that (sometimes). But it's more in the hope that the dust
DS will fall out g

I wouldn't do that!
Aren't you afraid that the poor little pixels will fall out too? You
can't buy them dime a'dozen in the grocery store, you know...

:)

Good light!
   fra



Film writers (digi to neg, digi to slide)

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek
Hi,
   as sacrilegous as it is to me, I have some BW conversions from
   digital which I would really like to have as fiber BW prints (e.g.
   the frontpage photograph on my website).

   I am not much keen on printing them on Frontier (even though the
   new 370 offers 600 DPI, it is still only 8-bit output) or inkjet.

   I recall somebody (Godfrey?) talking a while back about using laser
   film writers to output the negative for platinum printing. The same
   could be perhaps used to produce a tweaked 35mm negative for traditional
   BW printing (no one yet here in Prague has the new Durst digital
   enlarger, which could be great for it, as it looked very promising,
   and _very_ expensive, although one pro printer mentioned thinking about
   getting one...).

   Anybody has any pointers or hints or experience with this?

   Thanks a lot!

Frantisek



RE: Pentax Digital Spotmeter baffles - DIY

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The Zone VI  (Not Zone VII) modification was done primarily for BW
photography.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Frantisek 

Now, the best PDS are ZoneVII modified, I heard here. But I will be
mostly using it for BW, where the slight colour inaccuracy of any
unmodified meter isn't so critical.




Re: Cheap digital PS

2005-04-10 Thread Butch Black
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens

Subject: Cheap digital PS

The Wally World where I work has just received a shipment of 3MP PS
digital cameras.  I haven't seen any results yet, but the specs are pretty
impressive for a $60.00 digital.  It has 16MB of internal memory, 1.5 inch
LCD screen and an SD card slot.  We've sold a few to parents for their
younger children.
We're getting something similar.
Prone to failure, and you really want to check out the image quality.
Hi Guys
Is this the Apex (300?) by any chance? We had them for Xmas. Basically a 
OTUC body with a digital sensor and an SD slot. Good for a cheap camera for 
a young kid, not much else. The Pentax 50 sounds interesting though. Let us 
know any initial impressions or problems.

Butch 




PESO: More Loco Photos

2005-04-10 Thread George Sinos
A few weeks ago I posted a few shots of the Union Pacific Big Boy steam 
engine being moved to it's new location.  Yesterday they moved one of the 
few remaining Centennial diesel-electric locomotives to the same 
location.  The Centennials were the largest diesels ever built.

With the exception of wind, the weather was great.  Here are a few of the 
photos I took while spending a couple of hours following it along it's move.

There are three short videos mixed among the still photos.  They are 
marked.  If you're on a dial up line or other slow connection you'll want 
to just skip to the next photo.  They are about 7 to 8 megabytes each.

By the way.  The videos were taken with the OptioMX.  They were shot in 
Mpeg-4 and converted to Mpeg-1 for the web.  I really like it for this type 
of thing.  It slips easily into a lens pocket in the camera bag.  The short 
videos can record a bit of the atmosphere that doesn't come across well in 
the stills.  You can get about 20 minutes of the highest quality video on a 
512 Mb SD card.

The stills were all shot with the istD and the 16-45mm lens.
Both sets of photos are here: http://georges.smugmug.com/Street+Scenes
See you later, gs
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Re: PESO - Gobsmacking Light

2005-04-10 Thread mike wilson
John Forbes wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:28:13 +0100, mike wilson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
Just writing some emails before dinner, raining outside, noticed the
trees over in the east were suddenly glowing crimson. Wandered over  
into
the kitchen to look west, and saw this scene. I dashed back and grabbed
the 1D, attaching the SMC-A*85mm f/1.4 as I walked outside and into the
rain - carpet slippers onto the grass, and rattled off 9 shots. This at
ISO 320, 1/125 @ f/5.6, handheld.

3 deg of rotation, slight crop, no alterations to colour ( used auto
levels in PS, with standard USM) - I swear to God, this is as I saw it.
Only lasted another 2 minutes and it was gone.
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare5.html
  I was told that swearing shouldn't be done in public... You know, 
the  bAd words? :)
 Cotty, you seem to have outdone yourself...
 Now, be a good chap, and explain to me what is it gobsmacking? 
Who  is gob and why it should be smacking or smacked?

Not who, what.  Gob is slang for mouth.  So gobsmacked means hit in 
the  mouth.  In other words, rendered speechless.  Not polite but a 
common  term for something that astonishes.

So people who talk too much are said to be gobby.  It's found more 
oop  Nawff than dan Saff.
There's another, extremely rude version that denotes a person as 
completely untrustworthy, such that all they say is excrement.

mike


Re: Z-5 and Z-5p???

2005-04-10 Thread Thibouille
See here http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/Z-PZ/index.html
Very rare IMO

On Apr 10, 2005 7:34 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just picked up my Pentax poster from the Post Office
 (thank you Stan!), and it is great--though l-a-r-g-e,
 and goodness knows where I'll put it (my wife has
 already vetoed the living room and bedroom).
 
 Anywa Z-5 and Z-5p are depicted; they look
 a lot like the Z-1 and Z-1p. I've never heard of them,
 though.  What were they?
 
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Re: PESO: More Loco Photos

2005-04-10 Thread mike wilson
George Sinos wrote:
A few weeks ago I posted a few shots of the Union Pacific Big Boy steam 
engine being moved to it's new location.  Yesterday they moved one of 
the few remaining Centennial diesel-electric locomotives to the same 
location.  The Centennials were the largest diesels ever built.
Excellent documetation, George.  Interesting to see the different modes 
of dress, from people wrapped up against what they percieve as a cold 
day, to the videocamerawoman in shorts and t-shirt.

For whatever reason, the videos won't play inline for me, on this or the 
Big Boy page.  Any chance of a link to the URLs, so that I can download 
them?

mike


Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

2005-04-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Shut it off atthe printer.

Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 10, 2005 4:36 AM
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Hard-copy enablement

On 9/4/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:

Anyone have any comments or tips for this printer?

Like most printers, use it at least once a week to counter ink drying out
in the head(s). I have  a Canon S9000 that I bought used and eventually
had to replace the head, which was only about 75 GBP and an easy swap.
It's such a good printer that for me it was worth it.




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Re: Pentax Digital Spotmeter baffles - DIY

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek

Sunday, April 10, 2005, 8:06:11 PM, Shel wrote:
SB The Zone VI  (Not Zone VII) modification was done primarily for BW
SB photography.

Ok, so it's great for BW as well, I give up :)

I should have known it's VI... VII is just too bright - I put caucasian faces 
at VI.

Anyway, I am more interested in some tips on the baffles, and this
list I think is a good place to ask. Last I heard Zone _VI_ was out of
business, no?

Good light!
   fra



Re: OT: photo paper for Xerox Phaser 8400

2005-04-10 Thread Leon Altoff
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:17:34 -0300, Jim Colwell wrote:

Does anybody have experience with the Xerox Phaser 8400 colour printer ?
The recommended high res photo paper is Phaser Professional Solid Ink High
Resolution Photo Paper.  I'm going to order a package to try it out, but
it's not easily available here in Halifax NS.  Any recommendations for other
papers ?  Thanks, Jim. www.jcolwell.ca 

Jim,

We had one of this type of printer at work (an earlier model).  It gave
good results but the ink was glossy.  If you didn't use the glossy
paper the white would be mat and the colours glossy - a strange result.
 The packages they sold here had the black ink being free for the life
of the printer, but you paid for the colour ink.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon




Re: Film writers (digi to neg, digi to slide)

2005-04-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Frantisek
Subject: Film writers (digi to neg, digi to slide)


  Anybody has any pointers or hints or experience with this?
A friend of mine has a high end Leaf writer.
I'll ask him if it is set up and running.
William Robb


RE: SMCT 135/2.5 results

2005-04-10 Thread Andre Langevin
As a matter of course, I try to use the longest, deepest hood that won't
vignette.
Shel

The ST 300/5.6 hood is a very long 58mm one.  It may fit the 135mm on an ist D.
Andre


RE: SMCT 135/2.5 results

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How long is that hood?

It'll probably work just fine with the D, but it may also work well with a
regular slr.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Andre Langevin 

 As a matter of course, I try to use the longest, deepest hood that won't
 vignette.


 The ST 300/5.6 hood is a very long 58mm one.  It may fit the 135mm on an
ist D.

 Andre




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Jostein
I'm mostly a type 4 kinda guy in this case.
In addition, I keep a set of lithiums in my bag for those cases when I 
run out of power. I've had the same set of spares for a good 7 months 
now, but lithiums have long shelf life.

Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:37 AM
Subject: Battery Management


A question about how to best manage NiMH Batteries.

Let say you have not shot your *ist-D or flashes for 6 weeks. You 
have several sets of NiMH batteries.  You know that the now stale 
batteries will poop out quickly in your *ist-D, but will probably 
hold their own in a flash unit.


You decide to go out shooting, but for all you know, youll wind up 
with no shots using either the DSLR or the flash


Do you ---

1 Recharge everything; after all, the batteries are stale

2 Drain everything and then recharge to eliminate any 
possible memory  assuming (of course) that your charger does not 
already drain and charge.


3 Recharge a couple set of batteries for the camera, let the 
other drain out in the flash and recharge the later.


4 Stop worrying and just shoot, replace the batteries as 
needed, and if you come up short at the end of the day, switch to 
film


Just wondering, as these last several Michigan weeks have afforded 
me few digital photo ops. Ive managed to get some interesting shots 
of the Michigan wilderness in early spring, but those are more grim 
than cheery and better suited for BW film than digital.


So  should I fire up the charger? Start draining batteries, or just 
stop worrying?


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Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread williamsp
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I don't know whether or not the A2 has a shutter, but the flash sync
 probably doesn't make a difference: If it does have a shutter it's most
 likely a leaf shutter so it could flash sync at high speed.
 

I agree that it would have to be a leaf, not focal plane shutter, but then
what leaf shutter can offer speeds like 1/4000th sec?
It just all seems a bit funny to me.



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Beware of camera

2005-04-10 Thread Ryan Lee
http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?print_page=ysection_id=4article_id=877page_number=1preview=

Short fun article some of you may have read before. Pentax makes a brief
appearance too (unfortunately). Enjoy!

Cheers,
Ryan




Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread williamsp
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The reason the A2 can perform flash sync at 1/4000 second is that it is 
 a leaf shutter design: there is a point in the operation of a leaf 
 shutter that all blades are fully open at all shutter speeds.
 

What leaf shutter is able to work at 1/4000th sec?
How come all the leaf shutter lenses/cameras are usually limited to 1/500th?



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Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The problem with leaf shutters on standard cameras has to do with size and
mass, and, of course, acceleration.  Such shutters are much larger and
heavier than the shutters on the small digicams.  At some point the larger
shutters are unable to maintain accurate shutter speeds.  This has often
been determined to be @ 1/500 second, although many users of cameras with
leaf shutters suggest that even 1/500 second is often slow and not close
enough to be accurate.  I have heard of people using the 1/500 speed as
1/350 when they are looking for very accurate exposures.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 What leaf shutter is able to work at 1/4000th sec?
 How come all the leaf shutter lenses/cameras are usually limited to
1/500th?




Re: Battery Management

2005-04-10 Thread Butch Black
Hi
What exactly is considered a slow charge versus a quick? I have a Radio 
Shack charger that takes 7 hours to fully charge. The batteries never get 
beyond slightly warmer then ambient. I'm thinking of getting a charger we 
sell at work that's a 2 hour charger, because it also has a car adapter. Is 
that still considered a slow charger? We also sell a 15 minute charger that 
I have no interest in.

Butch 




Re: Beware of camera

2005-04-10 Thread cbwaters
Woo Hoo! I have both of the two most dangerous Pentax cameras...
CW
Anybody wana come paint this room?  Two coats of white primer in the kids 
room and it's STILL pink... Ugh

- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: Beware of camera


http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?print_page=ysection_id=4article_id=877page_number=1preview=
Short fun article some of you may have read before. Pentax makes a brief
appearance too (unfortunately). Enjoy!
Cheers,
Ryan


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