OT: Picasa 2 migration
Hi Does anyone on this mailing list use Picasa 2? I've been playing around with it a bit, and it seems to suit my needs fairly well. However, before investing more of my time labelling my pictures, I was wondering if anyone has any experience of migrating Picasa installs - e.g. moving to a new harddisk, or moving from one PC to another. I know there'd be no problem with the images themselves (just find the files on your hdd, and copy them) - my concern is the meta data, i.e. the labels you've attached to the images. Any experience here? Thanks. Francis.
Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?
In a message dated 5/23/2005 12:15:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When something becomes work it is not fun any more. === Now that is not true for everyone. I often enjoy my work, or work I have done in the past (since technically I am unemployed right now, although I am still working on something). Why? Learning something new, accomplishment, mastery. Mastery always feels good. Or approaching mastery, if one is not there yet. And in some fields one is never there. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PS CS2 ACR was Speaking of exposure....
In a message dated 5/23/2005 5:48:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good news. Thanks for the update. Placing the RAW as a smart object should be a very valuable tool. I sometimes find myself going back to RAW to make another change. It would be nice to do that without scrapping the tiff. Looking forward to working with this software. Paul You can place a raw file as a smart object into a Photoshop file. This doesn't seem all that important until you realize it works somewhat like adjustment layer, in that you can go back and tweak the raw conversion anytime you want. Just as an experiment, I converted a few directories of raw files with ACR set on full auto. Most of them are good. I'm also learning a lot about raw conversion by watching the auto conversion work and seeing if I can make it better. There are links to some pretty good articles on photoshopnews.com Enough for now. See you later, gs == Cough. What's a smart object??? Autoconversion sounds neat, could give one a baseline to start from. But I don't get what a smart object is, at all. Marnie aka Doe
Re: RE: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/23 Mon PM 11:43:08 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Understanding exposure? Recommendations? On 23 May 2005 at 12:51, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not in todays environment Bob. Just blast away, capture innumerable frames, and sooner or later you're bound to get one that works as a photograph and tells a story. Then fix it in Photoshop and send it off to the lab where the tech will push a button (no need to watch the machine or pay much attention to the print itself), and, POOF! out comes a perfect print. You're so behind the times ... It seems a lot of old farts are feeling more than a little irritated about the fact that this is a possible option for many these days. Why not just concentrate on what you know best and let others experiment and enjoy their photographic tools and options? It's an effort thing. If one is going to do a lot of something, learn how to do it properly and save yourself a heap of time, money and all sorts of other things in the long run. Take a few seconds to properly assess a scene and expose the image properly or spend a long time gazing at and fiddling with phosphor dots? No competition in my book, even allowing that it might take some time to learn the assessment process. mike the idle Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: PS CS2 ACR was Speaking of exposure....
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/24 Tue AM 07:19:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PS CS2 ACR was Speaking of exposure In a message dated 5/23/2005 5:48:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good news. Thanks for the update. Placing the RAW as a smart object should be a very valuable tool. I sometimes find myself going back to RAW to make another change. It would be nice to do that without scrapping the tiff. Looking forward to working with this software. Paul You can place a raw file as a smart object into a Photoshop file. This doesn't seem all that important until you realize it works somewhat like adjustment layer, in that you can go back and tweak the raw conversion anytime you want. Just as an experiment, I converted a few directories of raw files with ACR set on full auto. Most of them are good. I'm also learning a lot about raw conversion by watching the auto conversion work and seeing if I can make it better. There are links to some pretty good articles on photoshopnews.com Enough for now. See you later, gs == Cough. What's a smart object??? Autoconversion sounds neat, could give one a baseline to start from. But I don't get what a smart object is, at all. From the description, it sound to me like an object that retains the ability to be altered. Most objects, for example pictures in Word documents, have to be removed from their environment before they can be fiddled with. In CS2, it sounds like you can go to the original object, do something to it, and the embedded version automatically updates. Marnie aka Doe - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: RAW and Jpeg for inspection (was: Re: PESO: Invitation to Hike)
On 24/5/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: There doesn't seem to be a way to get into this. What's the secret? When I request information on how to access a public folder, I am directed to sign in! Here's some help John: Connecting to someone's Public folder using Windows You can open a .Mac member's Public folder to see and copy files. To access someone's Public folder, you need to know the person's member name and Public folder password (if the Public folder is password-protected). To open someone's Public folder: If you're using Windows XP, use iDisk Utility for Windows XP. To download iDisk Utility for Windows XP, go to www.mac.com, and click .Mac Downloads. If you're using Windows 2000, open My Computer, choose Map Network Drive from the Tools menu, then click Web folder or FTP site. Enter the following as the location to add: http://idisk.mac.com/membername-Public? (where membername is the other person's .Mac member name). If a password is required, enter public in the User Name field, and then enter the Public folder password in the Password field. If you're using Windows 98, open My Computer, double-click the Web Folders icon, then double-click Add Web Folder. Enter the following as the location to add: http://idisk.mac.com/membername-Public? (where membername is the other person's .Mac member name). If a password is required, enter public in the User Name field, and then enter the Public folder password in the Password field. my username is cottycam Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: RAW and Jpeg for inspection (was: Re: PESO: Invitation to Hike)
On 24/5/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: I've put a RAW and a highest quality jpeg in my Public Folder on iDisk, grab them from there. User: cottycam Let me know what you think. What's this iDisk thing Cotty? Are the days of email, web serving and FTP gone? Ahar, I didn't see my post show up on the list until you quoted it Rob. iDisk is an Apple thing - it's basically FTP space on an Apple server somewhere that anyone who has a .mac account gets. The way one accesses it is by simply clicking on iDisk in the menubar and a window opens and you just drag and drop straight from your computer to the iDisk. Account holders have a Public folder that is not password protected and so is available for anyone to see and retrieve files. More info: http://www.mac.com/1/idisknewfeatures.html it says you can access them from a Windows computer: Connecting to someone's Public folder using Windows You can open a .Mac member's Public folder to see and copy files. To access someone's Public folder, you need to know the person's member name and Public folder password (if the Public folder is password-protected). To open someone's Public folder: If you're using Windows XP, use iDisk Utility for Windows XP. To download iDisk Utility for Windows XP, go to www.mac.com, and click .Mac Downloads. If you're using Windows 2000, open My Computer, choose Map Network Drive from the Tools menu, then click Web folder or FTP site. Enter the following as the location to add: http://idisk.mac.com/membername-Public? (where membername is the other person's .Mac member name). If a password is required, enter public in the User Name field, and then enter the Public folder password in the Password field. If you're using Windows 98, open My Computer, double-click the Web Folders icon, then double-click Add Web Folder. Enter the following as the location to add: http://idisk.mac.com/membername-Public? (where membername is the other person's .Mac member name). If a password is required, enter public in the User Name field, and then enter the Public folder password in the Password field. --- my username is cottycam Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Raw
Thanks Brian, I probably should down load the trial offer. One further question - what are the RAW conversion controls offered by this software? Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Raw Ken Any comments I make probably wont do the software justice as I still haven't had time to give it a thorough try out. However, I was dissapointed with the conversion of the sole RAW image that I've tried. It took a fair bit of effort to get an acceptable tif image that I could further process in Photoshop Elements but it wasn't as good as the output from the Pentax Laboratory software (I was able to install version 2 of the Pentax software temporarily on the WinXP machine I use at work). I'm not willing to write Breeze Browser off just yet and it was certainly better than the few other third party raw converters that I tried. Interestingly, all of the third party converters I have found all seem to use the same decoder (dcraw) although some of the programs do it better than others. The following link has a list of converters using dcraw (although many are for macs). http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Brian My main interest in it is for Raw conversion also. My current system should support it, everything else I've looked at requires a significant upgrade which I'm not about to do right now just to be able to handle Raw. How does the Raw convertor compare to others? The Pentax convertor was next to useless in my opinion. Kenneth Waller PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Pentax financial results
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=13613287 What do ya think? -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: to anyone in the Pentax software group who might be reading
A few rebuttles: Your original complaint had something to do with wanting something done to the histogram. Presumably to ensure you aren't taking more than the bare minimum of exposures required to do the job. Astro-photography often averages lots of images. If you bracket dozens of shots, it's even *MORE* data to deal with. My suggestion was to learn correct exposure instead. I've never said anything against bracketing, it's a pretty useful tool. In order to bracket effectively, you need to have a fairly good idea of what the correct for you exposure. In a very high dynamic range situation, that can be difficult to determine. In the situation you described, to me, it would have made more sense to bracket a few exposures and see which one looked best, it's not costing anything except time, and probably will take less time that pulling up the histogram and examining it. I'll disagree here. Again, going back to the moonshot. It's not really possible to get a good idea of what what looks best from the tiny LCD screen on the camera while peering at it in the dark (while trying to maintain some semblance of night vision). Also, due to the JPEG compression/expansion on the LCDs' screen, you are never sure that WYSIWYG. The only way to truly evaluate the shot is to pull it up on a computer and look... that can't be done at shoot time without some inconvenient heroics. Now, my histogram argument gives one an *objective* way to ensure not only that the exposure is correct, but also that it exposes to the right for maximum signal/noise. Consider the ASCII art histograms a: b: c: | | | | | | |_ |_ |_ a: Taken 1 stop less than perfect b: Taken at perfect exposure for the moon c: Taken 1 stop more than perfect That's right... there is no difference between the three. Say 20% of the area of the frame is taken up by the moon. Also say that the moon brightness is distributed over 2 stops of dynamic range. There aren't enough pixels at a *single* intensity to even register a single vertical dot on the histogram, even though a large percentage of the frame is *MUCH* brighter than the black. In the best case (when it's actually registered), you might get: a: b: c: | | | | | | |...__ |. |...__ Again... very difficult to see. Semilog histogram will compress the vertical axis to bring out the contrast and make it quickly and easily seen from the LCD at shoot-time. You'll learn more about making exposures doing it that way. You'll make fewer exposure errors in the future, having learned more about exposure. You'll learn more about how histograms translate into pictures. I'm an engineer... the more bells, whistles, dials, gauges, and indicators I've got to choose from, the better I can tailor my learning curve :) What you are suggesting is that I am suggesting something I am not suggesting. Then might I suggest suggesting suggestions applicable to enthusiasts as well as avid professionals :) (*everyone* is learning to some degree) Was that better? William Robb Yes, I'll suggest it was. :) -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent collection, Gianco. I especially like the one called The Eye. I was looking for a good abstract composition involving the wheel, but didn't find one. I'm happy you enjoyed the gallery! About The Eye, I guess at least Mark took a shot similar to mine (in the shot 31mm Limited... - I used a 35, btw). Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?
Mishka wrote: why not move to texas? You mean, Texas where the death penalty is applied to those who break the law against shooting people? On 5/23/05, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found that there are a lot of people in the world who feel their mission in life is making as many people unhappy as they can. Unfortunately there is a law against shooting them. graywolf
Re: Another GFM photo
about folk going what I remeber is (aside from you and better half and Doug, that is) I'll be there with my wife (French) and my brother in law (Bob). asking a question . about which photos I should bring with me) FWIW, I plan on bringing a portfolio of large format prints of my typical, recent keepers. Kenneth Waller Bob Sullivan and wife, Wheatfield, Cesar, Frank, Dave Brooks, me :), NOrm B? TV?, Mark R, Graywolf, Ken Waller ? -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 24, 2005 12:24 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another GFM photo Bill Owens wrote: Carolina the bear and her new cub, Boomer. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=90 Bill Hope I the little tike lets me see him - last year I missed the cubs somehow.. Bill, do we have a little mailing list of the attendees from PDML? How is Don doing? about folk going what I remeber is (aside from you and better half and Doug, that is) Bob Sullivan and wife, Wheatfield, Cesar, Frank, Dave Brooks, me :), NOrm B? TV?, Mark R, Graywolf, Ken Waller ? I was thinking of asking a question of you all but didnt want to pose it to the entire list. (nothing very deep, just about which photos I should bring with me) can't wait to get on the road... look forward to new faces and old ones - um make that ones Ive already seen best, ann PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
On 24/5/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) The first one's good for me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps!
On 24/5/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: A fortunate coming together of many factors. Unfortunately not including the lens I would have chosen or the body. This is about a 40% crop out of a file from the Optio 330GS. On holiday in Weymouth, Dorset, last year. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3347/display/3194647 Nice one Mike. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT: Hamvention, Enablement, and Camera Sale/Auction
DAYTON: There's always a couple of camera dealers selling @ or near store prices. $100 for a K1000. But ... I got a Tenba camera backpack for $25. There were some nice items that I passed on. NAD 3140 amp for $50. Dell server with 4 Pentium Pro CPUs 40 gig HD for $50. (Lots of that stuff -- tempting stuff.) SALE/AUCTION: Anyway, this Saturday @ the Holiday Inn on Hamilton (E. side of Columbus) is the Camera Collectors Club flea market auction. Auction is the whole evening. That's where the bargains are. But the flea market is good, too. Sincerely, Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?
G'day Cesar, Glad to have been of some small assistance :-) I said at the time you asked that I could think of no reason not to get it...you obviously agreed g Dave On 5/24/05, Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been a member of this list since the days of The Who. [How many remember that?] I do not recall enablement on the list from those days. It may have been because I was such a photographic 'newbie' :-) Anyway, I saw my photographer friend the other day after work. I stopped by his place on my way home. He had not used his medium format gear for over a year - since he went digital with Canon. I got my 645n from him. After checking out the equipment, I walked away with the following: 645n body with Pentax strap two 220 inserts with cases 120 insert with case 645 Zoom 1:4.5 80-160mm 645 Zoom 1:4.5 45-85mm AF-500FTZ cord for above to use with a Quantum battery three 5P Sync Cords F two Hot-Shoe Adapters F four Off-Camera Shoe Adapters F 120 film five rolls Reala (100) two boxes Portra Pack eight rolls Portra 400 NC six rolls Portra 160 NC two rolls Portra 400 BW 220 film two rolls Portra 160 NC six rolls Portra 400 NC five rolls NPS 160 I can only blame the list since I did ask if I should go for all this :-) This means that I need to cart more medium format with me this holiday weekend when I head to south Florida. Once again my 35mm may be staying at home :-( Just wanted to thank the list for helping me concerning the medium format equipment :-) Not going to mention any 67 gear on this list to keep my wallet safe, César Panama City, Florida
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/5/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) The first one's good for me. Good! I included the second one as an afterthought. The first is the one I really prefer. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PAW and a Question
Boris, IMO, this doesn't work unless this volume increasing total composition is in the same frame. Pleasing warm textures, if slightly top heavy. Jack --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=190899 I've been told that this photo has broken composition. It is as if there are two separates shots inside one - one with lower lamp and the other one with the lamp above. I think that the shadows and lights work together so that this image is actually a whole. Here is the question: is this composition really broken into two halves? What defines a composition that is whole? I mean not in a sense of rules or examples, but rather in a sense of viewer's perspective... Thanks. -- Boris __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Another GFM photo
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about folk going what I remeber is (aside from you and better half and Doug, that is) I'll be there with my wife (French) and my brother in law (Bob). asking a question . about which photos I should bring with me) FWIW, I plan on bringing a portfolio of large format prints of my typical, recent keepers. I don't have as many prints prepared as usual but I'm going to try to get a few more done in the next week. May even have to (gasp) have someone else print some BW shots for me! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
damn that's a big bicycle Mark Roberts wrote: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent collection, Gianco. I especially like the one called The Eye. I was looking for a good abstract composition involving the wheel, but didn't find one. I'm happy you enjoyed the gallery! About The Eye, I guess at least Mark took a shot similar to mine (in the shot 31mm Limited... - I used a 35, btw). Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
Re: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/24 Tue PM 01:08:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Mark Roberts wrote: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent collection, Gianco. I especially like the one called The Eye. I was looking for a good abstract composition involving the wheel, but didn't find one. I'm happy you enjoyed the gallery! About The Eye, I guess at least Mark took a shot similar to mine (in the shot 31mm Limited... - I used a 35, btw). Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
F stop question
How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don
Re: PAW and a Question
Sort of a sense of doom hanging over the lower lamp, hey? From an artistic sense the photo works quite well. It does not give a comfortable feeling, but it gives a strong one. Why is it that we feel photos are supposed to be comfortable, (unless they depict human suffering). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jack Davis wrote: Boris, IMO, this doesn't work unless this volume increasing total composition is in the same frame. Pleasing warm textures, if slightly top heavy. Jack --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=190899 I've been told that this photo has broken composition. It is as if there are two separates shots inside one - one with lower lamp and the other one with the lamp above. I think that the shadows and lights work together so that this image is actually a whole. Here is the question: is this composition really broken into two halves? What defines a composition that is whole? I mean not in a sense of rules or examples, but rather in a sense of viewer's perspective... Thanks. -- Boris __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
In a message dated 5/21/2005 3:55:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 5/16/05, Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, Late, but not TOO late (I hope...), my London PDML gallery is up at: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=495917 Enjoy! Ciao, Gianfranco == Very nice gallery. Looks like you guys had a good time. Some interesting night city shots too. Thanks for sharing. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Another GFM photo
I don't have as many prints prepared as usual but I'm going to try to get a few more done in the next week. May even have to (gasp) have someone else print some BW shots for me! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com I am planning to bring my favorites done whilst taking the darkroom class the past few winters. I have several 11x14's i want to bring if i can find something nice to carry them. Also a few from the digital darkroom Please keep the giggles down when viewing.vbg Dave
Re: PAW and a Question
In a message dated 5/24/2005 2:09:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=190899 I've been told that this photo has broken composition. It is as if there are two separates shots inside one - one with lower lamp and the other one with the lamp above. I think that the shadows and lights work together so that this image is actually a whole. Here is the question: is this composition really broken into two halves? What defines a composition that is whole? I mean not in a sense of rules or examples, but rather in a sense of viewer's perspective... Thanks. -- Boris === I find it a quite interesting. I suppose it could be better composed, OTOH, one lamp is high, one is low, and I am not sure how you would have composed it differently. I don't think the composition is broken. The eye has a lot to do -- but, personally, my eye can handle it. Unusual shot. Probably someone told you their eye had to bounce back and forth, bang, bang. That's not always bad. Marnie aka Doe
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
Thanks, Mark. They are both superb. Love the colour. John On Tue, 24 May 2005 13:17:59 +0100, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent collection, Gianco. I especially like the one called The Eye. I was looking for a good abstract composition involving the wheel, but didn't find one. I'm happy you enjoyed the gallery! About The Eye, I guess at least Mark took a shot similar to mine (in the shot 31mm Limited... - I used a 35, btw). Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005
Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps!
In a message dated 5/24/2005 4:40:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, A fortunate coming together of many factors. Unfortunately not including the lens I would have chosen or the body. This is about a 40% crop out of a file from the Optio 330GS. On holiday in Weymouth, Dorset, last year. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3347/display/3194647 mike = Hehehe. Good capture. Marnie aka Doe
Re: F stop question
With older cameras that have manual aperture control, I just turn the dial and position it between the two spots. You can even do that in thirds with enough accuracy for any practical application. With my *istD cameras and my LX I use exposure compensation to split stops. Calculating numerical values doesn't seem to serve any real purpose. Paul How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don
Re: FS: P30t, KR10x, SuperA+MotorA, TTL multi-dedicated Flash, Contax adaptall-2
Your signature will be empty when you sell everyting :-) Peter B. On 5/24/05, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are items I'm selling: * P30t: bit of brassing * Ricoh KR-10x (little price, really, I don't want 200 dollars for this one ;) * SuperA/SuperProgram: brassing * MotorA: very good shape. * Starblitz 3601DTZ multi-dedicated TTL/auto/manual flash (including TTL with Pentax) * Adaptall2 Contax adapter with both caps. You can find pics (big ones) here: http://users.telenet.be/thibouille/photo/ Any serious offer is welcome ! -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: FS: P30t, KR10x, SuperA+MotorA, TTL multi-dedicated Flash, Contax adaptall-2
Not really, I still have My KX (and no way I part with this one), MX (maybe I'll do if I must), Z1 (I really don't want but who knows). Plus an Ist-D(s?) soon if all goes well so do not woory for me, thanks ;) -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Another GFM photo
On 24/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I am planning to bring my favorites done whilst taking the darkroom class the past few winters. I have several 11x14's i want to bring if i can find something nice to carry them. Also a few from the digital darkroom Please keep the giggles down when viewing.vbg Brooksie I'm sure gonna miss not meeting you. The cold turkey is starting to set in. I'll have to wait another year for a fix Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?
Cesar looked for someone to blame for his recent acquisitions: I have been a member of this list since the days of The Who. [How many remember that?] I do not recall enablement on the list from those days. It may have been because I was such a photographic 'newbie' :-) Anyway, I saw my photographer friend the other day after work. I stopped by his place on my way home. He had not used his medium format gear for over a year - since he went digital with Canon. I got my 645n from him. After checking out the equipment, I walked away with the following: snipped the long list of stuff I can only blame the list since I did ask if I should go for all this :-) Frank is responsible for 90% of the trouble on this list. It's probably his fault. I'm sure you're now as anxious as the rest of us to exact your revenge at GFM. Note: The 90% is probably low but I wanted to be conservative in my estimate. You scored quite a haul there Cesar. Congratulations on your further MF enablement. Tom (working on the other 10%) Reese
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Good thing I'm already geared up for it then! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: F stop question
Thanks Paul, I'm just curious as to how one determines where a number like 4.76 is. This is the number I get with the 1.7x on a 2.8 lens. Is it the amount of light one would get at F/4 divided by 1.7, which puts it nearer 5.6. Or is it closer to 1/2 stop? You're right, it has no real practical purpose. In real life I do just like you, partial clicks, EC, etc. I have one of those inquiring (annoying) minds that likes to know these silly things. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:55 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F stop question With older cameras that have manual aperture control, I just turn the dial and position it between the two spots. You can even do that in thirds with enough accuracy for any practical application. With my *istD cameras and my LX I use exposure compensation to split stops. Calculating numerical values doesn't seem to serve any real purpose. Paul How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
yep. it's a vicious cycle Cotty wrote: This chain of events always happens. Cheers, Cotty --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
Re: Another GFM photo - to the GFM attendees
Mark Roberts wrote: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about folk going what I remeber is (aside from you and better half and Doug, that is) I'll be there with my wife (French) and my brother in law (Bob). annsan the always discombobulated yatahyatahs OK Ken is your wife's name French or is she French? - or both? :) (sorry couldn't resist.) I'm thinking of bringing one of two not yet in print ms's in effect (easier and I don't have to think as much) and was in all seriousness taking a little poll of those going to be there what they are more curious about - I might toss in a couple of recent keepers of the computer print variety, but not sure i have time. anyway Pick one - and I'll oblige the majority (though I'm not always to be trusted) The first time I saw paris - aka two weeks in another town or brains, 25 cents aka Son of Sign Language. all black and white Ilford RC pearl prints. I'm trying to get over being afraid to take them out of the house. annsan's day always is made up of too much time spent (1) wondering what to work on first, (2) looking for keys and instruction manuals (3) getting absorbed in email only one week and I'll be on the road! ann asking a question . about which photos I should bring with me) FWIW, I plan on bringing a portfolio of large format prints of my typical, recent keepers. I don't have as many prints prepared as usual but I'm going to try to get a few more done in the next week. May even have to (gasp) have someone else print some BW shots for me! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
I'm getting rather tired of all this OT chatter. But I hope all goes wheel for you. Don -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:25 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Good thing I'm already geared up for it then! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Another GFM photo
On 24/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I am planning to bring my favorites done whilst taking the darkroom class the past few winters. I have several 11x14's i want to bring if i can find something nice to carry them. Also a few from the digital darkroom Please keep the giggles down when viewing.vbg Brooksie I'm sure gonna miss not meeting you. The cold turkey is starting to set in. I'll have to wait another year for a fix Cheers, Cotty Ditto sir. I'm sure i'll enjoy this trip,so,i'll probably make another next year. Till then. Dave
Re: Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/24 Tue PM 01:52:38 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps! In a message dated 5/24/2005 4:40:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, A fortunate coming together of many factors. Unfortunately not including the lens I would have chosen or the body. This is about a 40% crop out of a file from the Optio 330GS. On holiday in Weymouth, Dorset, last year. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3347/display/3194647 mike = Hehehe. Good capture. Sheer, unadulterated luck. Think of the delay in the shutter for one. Think of the fact that the bird was not visible in the viewfinder for another Marnie aka Doe - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/24 Tue PM 02:15:29 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... wheely? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/24 Tue PM 02:25:09 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Good thing I'm already geared up for it then! Not tired after all that travelling? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: RE: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/24 Tue PM 02:21:31 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... I'm getting rather tired of all this OT chatter. But I hope all goes wheel for you. Yes, we wouldn't want to derail your plans. (I think I just made myself ill) Don -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:25 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Good thing I'm already geared up for it then! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
CF card: normal or Microdrive?
I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer? -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps!
mike wilson wrote: Hi, A fortunate coming together of many factors. Unfortunately not including the lens I would have chosen or the body. This is about a 40% crop out of a file from the Optio 330GS. On holiday in Weymouth, Dorset, last year. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3347/display/3194647 mike Great grab and fun shot! Oddly it lacks contrast on my monitor - is it really low contrast? ann - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: F stop question
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don IIRC, f-stops are defined by the *diameter* of the aperture, but light transmission goes as the *area* of the aperture. Thus, doubling the diamter (i.e. f/8-f/16) *quadruples* the light transmission. A stop is defined as a doubling/halving of the light, so f-stops at a ratio of sqrt(2) \approx 1.4 are one stop apart. Fratio = (sqrt(2))^N where N is the number of stops. Solving for N yields: N = (2 log(Fratio))/(log(2)) e.g your question: (2 log(4.76/4))/(log(2)) = 0.5, or 1/2 stop The 1/2 stop ratio is 2^(1/4) = 1.189 \approx 1.2 The 1/3 stop ratio is 2^(1/6) = 1.122 So these sizes are 1/2 stop apart: 1.4 - 1.7 - 2 - 2.4 - 2.8 - 3.4 - 4 ... and these are 1/3 stop apart: 1.4 - 1.6 - 1.8 - 2 - 2.2 - 2.5 - 2.8 ... -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
13 Days with Pentax
Just re-subscribed after a 13 Day photo shoot of Dance. The Dance was an Eisteddfod of dance with a mix of Ballet, tap, jazz, cultural, contemporary and others. My job was to capture each act digitally for sale during the Eisteddfod. Equipment 2 x *istD 1 x 70-200mm 2.8 Tamaron AF 1 x 50mm 1.4 Pentax AF Store full of rechargable batteries 6 x 512 CF Cards 1 X iBook 1 x Server with 250 gig external drive 2 x terminals for public veiwing. On setting up our computer network we discovered the wireless connection would not work in the theatre, so we had to get some cat5 cable and run this from the laptop to the server, about 80 meters. The set up was that I would take the photo's in the theatre and download the CF cards down to the server in the foyer. This worked well. This was the day before the Day 1. Day 1. We were not given any time to test the lighting and so the first photo was yellow as the auto WB could not cope with the tungsten lights. A quick switch to tungsten manually fixed this and the photos looked good. At 2.8 I was able to shoot at 1/350 but after a word with the lighting techs we were able to shoot 1600 ISO, 2.8, 1/750. This was great and we were off and running. Day 2. CF card crashed but we were able to regain all the data exept 4 files that were corrupt. Later, it happened again and I formatted all the cards and made sure fully charged batteries were used for each session, 3 per day, and that the CF cards were formatted for each session. There were no more CF card problems after this. Day 3. The *istD locked up. I turned it on, off, shook it, yelled at it but no response. I removed the batteries and put them back in and away it went again with no problem until about an hour later when it happened again. Same remedy to fix it. This was not good, so I switched to the back-up body and it lasted well for the rest of the days till the end. The network worked like a charm and the customers could order thier prints after viewing them on the terminals in foyer. The *istD that failed is now in the hands of C.R.Kennedy for repair. The other body is still functioning normally. In all over 45,000 photos during the 13 days. The days were 12-15 hours long and it is good to be back home with the family. I am sorry I cannot provide samples as it is part of the contract not to put any of the images on the net, some of the childrens sessions are very young and in very small costumes. In all, a successful and profitable trip. Does this make the *istD a 'Pro' level camera? Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
RE: F stop question
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: Thanks Paul, I'm just curious as to how one determines where a number like 4.76 is. This is the number I get with the 1.7x on a 2.8 lens. Is it the amount of light one would get at F/4 divided by 1.7, which puts it nearer 5.6. Or is it closer to 1/2 stop? You're right, it has no real practical purpose. In real life I do just like you, partial clicks, EC, etc. I have one of those inquiring (annoying) minds that likes to know these silly things. ;-) Don Aside from academic interests, it doesn't have much value unless you wanted to guarantee an identical exposure between shots. Something like: f/16 @ 1/100s (0.010 sec) f/11 @ 1/50s (0.020 sec) A half-stop in-between would be f/13 @ 1/66s (0.015 sec) Yeah, you're right... useless... :) -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: F stop question
Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? 4.76 :-) And where does 4.76 fall? Half way between 4 and 5.6 :-) Or in other words, f4.76 is 1/4 of a stop slower than f4 and 1/4 of a stop faster than f5.6 This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. Therefore the 1.7x converter introduces a 3/4 stop decrease in the effective aperture size. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. It's easy - multiply by sqrt(2), or by sqrt(sqrt(2)), etc. Here's an example: Halfway between f4 and f8 is f5.6 4 * sqrt(2) = 5.6 5.6 * sqrt(2) = 8 Halfway between f4 and f5.6 is f4.76 4 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 4.76 4.76 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 5.6 Spot the pattern? :-) This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. Well, I haven't tried to explain it exhaustively, 'cos people complain when I do that... but I've answered your questions at least. ;-) S
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
I see this group axles at going around like this... We will all soon tyre of this... Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 24, 2005 10:06 AM To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Another GFM photo - to the GFM attendees
OK Ken is your wife's name French Yes (her maiden name), but I use it as her first name. taking a little poll of those going to be there what they are more curious about I'm partial to your western scenics Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another GFM photo - to the GFM attendees Mark Roberts wrote: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about folk going what I remeber is (aside from you and better half and Doug, that is) I'll be there with my wife (French) and my brother in law (Bob). annsan the always discombobulated yatahyatahs OK Ken is your wife's name French or is she French? - or both? :) (sorry couldn't resist.) I'm thinking of bringing one of two not yet in print ms's in effect (easier and I don't have to think as much) and was in all seriousness taking a little poll of those going to be there what they are more curious about - I might toss in a couple of recent keepers of the computer print variety, but not sure i have time. anyway Pick one - and I'll oblige the majority (though I'm not always to be trusted) The first time I saw paris - aka two weeks in another town or brains, 25 cents aka Son of Sign Language. all black and white Ilford RC pearl prints. I'm trying to get over being afraid to take them out of the house. annsan's day always is made up of too much time spent (1) wondering what to work on first, (2) looking for keys and instruction manuals (3) getting absorbed in email only one week and I'll be on the road! ann asking a question . about which photos I should bring with me) FWIW, I plan on bringing a portfolio of large format prints of my typical, recent keepers. I don't have as many prints prepared as usual but I'm going to try to get a few more done in the next week. May even have to (gasp) have someone else print some BW shots for me! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
I use both 1GB Flash and 1GB microdrives. I find no important noticeable difference in performance. I just bought a 4GB microdrive for $160. Have not put in camera yet. In my opinion the price difference more than outweighs any performance concerns. As far as reliability, I've had no problems with my microdrive. Tom C. From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:50:33 +0200 I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer? -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: F stop question
Aaagh! I got some numbers wrong. :-( See below. Steve Jolly wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? 4.76 :-) And where does 4.76 fall? Half way between 4 and 5.6 :-) Or in other words, f4.76 is 1/4 of a stop slower than f4 and 1/4 of a stop faster than f5.6 Sorry, 1/2 a stop in both cases, not 1/4 This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. Therefore the 1.7x converter introduces a 3/4 stop decrease in the effective aperture size. And that should read a 1.5 stop decrease. The rest is correct. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. It's easy - multiply by sqrt(2), or by sqrt(sqrt(2)), etc. Here's an example: Halfway between f4 and f8 is f5.6 4 * sqrt(2) = 5.6 5.6 * sqrt(2) = 8 Halfway between f4 and f5.6 is f4.76 4 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 4.76 4.76 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 5.6 Spot the pattern? :-) This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. Well, I haven't tried to explain it exhaustively, 'cos people complain when I do that... but I've answered your questions at least. ;-) S
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... This chain of events always happens. Good thing I'm already geared up for it then! You're in the frame! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
On 24/5/05, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed: yep. it's a vicious cycle Can you handle it? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Microdrives don't work well, and may even fail to work, at high altitudes, above 9,000 feet. From IBM: The Microdrive does need AIR to float the heads and typically above 10,000 ft the mass of the air is too low and the drive requires a pressurized environment similar to an aircraft or spacecraft. At high altitude the air bearings begin to loose support from the air molecules needed to provide the air bearing for the Negative Air Bearing Surface (NABS) design of the head. If this air bearing is removed or lowered (as is the case with low density air at high altitudes) the head damages the media and you could have loss of data. The drive is vented to maintain equal pressure inside and outside to provide the air and to maintain the same pressure. This eliminates the need for sealed and rigid covers that can tolerate pressure differences. The OEM Functional specification defines the warranty range for operating altitude as 3,000 M or 9,000 ft (3ft/M) Shel From: Thibouille I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer?
RE: 13 Days with Pentax
Presuming a constant rate of shots per day, that means about 35,000 frames with one camera in ten days. Wow! I don't know the life expectancy of an *istD, but you must take the record for using it up in the least amount of time. OTOH a job like that should pay for all the *istDen (*istDs is useless as a plural of *istD) you can carry, plus a nice bit of profit on top. If C.R. Kennedy had couriered you a loaner *istD the morning after yours failed, then it would be a pro camera. OTOH you can afford to keep several spare *istD bodies for the price of one pro level Nikon or Canon, allowing you to fund plenty of redundancy. That's an alternative definition of pro that isn't often discussed. regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) In all over 45,000 photos during the 13 days. The days were 12-15 hours long and it is good to be back home with the family. I am sorry I cannot provide samples as it is part of the contract not to put any of the images on the net, some of the childrens sessions are very young and in very small costumes. In all, a successful and profitable trip. Does this make the *istD a 'Pro' level camera? Kind regards Kevin
Re: F stop question
Glad you said that. I couldn't work out how you got those numbers, but didn't want to argue with a nuclear physicist! John On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:26:37 +0100, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaagh! I got some numbers wrong. :-( See below. Steve Jolly wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? 4.76 :-) And where does 4.76 fall? Half way between 4 and 5.6 :-) Or in other words, f4.76 is 1/4 of a stop slower than f4 and 1/4 of a stop faster than f5.6 Sorry, 1/2 a stop in both cases, not 1/4 This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. Therefore the 1.7x converter introduces a 3/4 stop decrease in the effective aperture size. And that should read a 1.5 stop decrease. The rest is correct. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. It's easy - multiply by sqrt(2), or by sqrt(sqrt(2)), etc. Here's an example: Halfway between f4 and f8 is f5.6 4 * sqrt(2) = 5.6 5.6 * sqrt(2) = 8 Halfway between f4 and f5.6 is f4.76 4 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 4.76 4.76 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 5.6 Spot the pattern? :-) This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. Well, I haven't tried to explain it exhaustively, 'cos people complain when I do that... but I've answered your questions at least. ;-) S -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005
PESO(s) -- The Great Poppy Hunt - Part 1
Well, not so great, kind of boring, actually. But here is is. :-) The California state flower is the California poppy. Which is a wildflower -- basically a weed. Because it is a weed it tends to grow by roadsides, and in some inaccessible places like on the sides of a steep hills. It's a simple flower, but strongly orange and they are quite beautiful when they spring up everywhere. The cool thing about poppies is when they catch the sun in their cups, they glow. (And are even more orange.) They bloom from March-August, but there is usually one month when they are at their peak. Only the peak month really differs from year to year. It depends on rain, etc. So you can't really know year to year where poppies will appear and where/when they will appear in profusion. I wanted to shoot a field of poppies. When I attended the George Lepp workshop, well, he's into poppies, showed a lot of pictures of them. Even FIELDS OF POPPIES. So I asked him where he found a field and he said near Arden which is near Sacramento. So, pressured by things I am not explaining, one day I popped Mom into the car and we drove up to Sacramento. I never found the turn off for Arden and the traffic approaching Sacramento was horrendous (and I am used to awful traffic. I mean, it was really, really bad). Okay, I didn't plan it well, didn't have a good map. I just went with a Yahoo map. Not good enough. Mom and I eventually turned back. About a 3-3 1/2 trip. I should have taken poppies about 20 minutes into the trip when I saw some by the road in Benicia. A few weeks later I was hiking on Mt. Diablo and bumped into a woman that told me of two places that did have actual poppy FIELDS. But looking them up later I discovered they were near Big Sur and I decided it was too far away. So, this year, yet again, my dream of taking a poppy field remains just a dream. There was a profusion of poppies right near me in a road's center divider last year. But this year they have weed wacked it to death -- no poppies this year. Harder and harder to find poppies, because people weed wack more and more. So I have been driving around poppy spotting for months. Unfortunately, this year, it's been very overcast and/or rainy for months. Poppies love sun. At first, I thought I had missed all the poppies, then I decided that peak season this year was late because of the weather. I am still seeing poppies here and there, but only small clumps. I will keep trying to shoot more. Although no fields of them. Sniff, sniff. :-( Anyway, about a month ago, in extreme frustration, I took some poppy shots on the hillside across from my old high school. They've been blooming there since I went there. That is one place no one has weed wacked them, because I went there about 35-40 years ago. But, they are mixed in with other weeds, which is, btw, the way they usually grow. Only three photos for now -- 1. typical poppy 2. shows mainly how they grow, in with other weeds, often on a steep hill side 3. this shot is sort of messy, other weeds again, but it does really show how the poppies can glow http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/ or you can go to the first one and click on the next button http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/pages/poppy1.htm Comments welcome, naturally. I've spotted two new clumps of poppies recently, so maybe I can get some good Macro shots. We shall see. The poppy hunt continues -- and so will this story, with more pictures -- later. ;-) Although I'll abbreviate the story part, because it's really not that interesting now that I read it over. Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
So don't use it in those applications... that specification does not equate with 'don't work well'. For you who lives essentially at sea level, it wouldn't be a problem. Luminous Landscape has an article regarding microdrive usage. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:13 -0700 Microdrives don't work well, and may even fail to work, at high altitudes, above 9,000 feet. From IBM: The Microdrive does need AIR to float the heads and typically above 10,000 ft the mass of the air is too low and the drive requires a pressurized environment similar to an aircraft or spacecraft. At high altitude the air bearings begin to loose support from the air molecules needed to provide the air bearing for the Negative Air Bearing Surface (NABS) design of the head. If this air bearing is removed or lowered (as is the case with low density air at high altitudes) the head damages the media and you could have loss of data. The drive is vented to maintain equal pressure inside and outside to provide the air and to maintain the same pressure. This eliminates the need for sealed and rigid covers that can tolerate pressure differences. The OEM Functional specification defines the warranty range for operating altitude as 3,000 M or 9,000 ft (3ft/M) Shel From: Thibouille I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer?
Re: F stop question
John Forbes wrote: Glad you said that. I couldn't work out how you got those numbers, but didn't want to argue with a nuclear physicist! Fair enough - particle beams at dawn can get a little messy... ;-) S
Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps!
Amusing. mike wilson wrote: Hi, A fortunate coming together of many factors. Unfortunately not including the lens I would have chosen or the body. This is about a 40% crop out of a file from the Optio 330GS. On holiday in Weymouth, Dorset, last year. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3347/display/3194647 mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Which was exactly the point of the post. Some people don't know about the limitations of the drives, and many people who live at lower elevations take trips and vacations into the mountains. In many parts of the world that means elevations above 9000 feet. Just driving around the western part of the US puts you at higher elevations frequently. I believe Thibouille lives in or near a mountainous area and the post was a heads-up if he does and is considering using a microdrive. You seem to have a problem with my posting the information. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] So don't use it in those applications... that specification does not equate with 'don't work well'. For you who lives essentially at sea level, it wouldn't be a problem. Luminous Landscape has an article regarding microdrive usage. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:13 -0700 Microdrives don't work well, and may even fail to work, at high altitudes, above 9,000 feet. From IBM: The Microdrive does need AIR to float the heads and typically above 10,000 ft the mass of the air is too low and the drive requires a pressurized environment similar to an aircraft or spacecraft. At high altitude the air bearings begin to loose support from the air molecules needed to provide the air bearing for the Negative Air Bearing Surface (NABS) design of the head. If this air bearing is removed or lowered (as is the case with low density air at high altitudes) the head damages the media and you could have loss of data. The drive is vented to maintain equal pressure inside and outside to provide the air and to maintain the same pressure. This eliminates the need for sealed and rigid covers that can tolerate pressure differences. The OEM Functional specification defines the warranty range for operating altitude as 3,000 M or 9,000 ft (3ft/M) Shel From: Thibouille I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer?
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
Wait till Frank sees it. Doug Brewer wrote: damn that's a big bicycle Mark Roberts wrote: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent collection, Gianco. I especially like the one called The Eye. I was looking for a good abstract composition involving the wheel, but didn't find one. I'm happy you enjoyed the gallery! About The Eye, I guess at least Mark took a shot similar to mine (in the shot 31mm Limited... - I used a 35, btw). Here's a couple of mine: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg Both taken with the 31 Ltd :) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
RE: PAW and a Question
-Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:13 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW and a Question Hi! This works for me. The light play is quite attractive. However, I find the crooked shade on the lower lamp somewhat distracting. Even if the shade had been straightened, I think this is one case where I might also try to alter the perspective so that the two lamps are parallel. It feels like it would be more pleasing that way. But I like it as shot. Paul, I spoke with few people about this shot. Then I looked at it, and looked at it, and looked at it. And then I realized that the upper lamp is the King. The lower lamp is the Shacherezade (spelling?) that is looking at the King from beneath... And she's telling him the stories... Stories of light and shadow... Interesting you should say this. My first association was the commercial I saw on TV recently - a tall glass of milk talking from above to some kind of milk bar while leaning over it... yeah, I know I'm watching TV too much. The point is, there's a tension in this photograph and a sort of anticipation of what's to happen next. And then I finally realized that to me this photo is quite whole... Indeed it is. And the one that can easily be liked, for that matter. Cheers, Leon
Re: F stop question
There's a neat little utility called Fcalc from a company called Tangentsoft http://www.tangentsoft.net/ The version that runs under windows is free. It's worth downloading for help file, which contains the all the formulas used, alone. It includes an Fstop calculator The multiplier isn't particularly simple if you want accuracy. Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
RE: F stop question
Thanks Cory! Don -Original Message- From: Cory Papenfuss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:07 AM To: PDML Subject: Re: F stop question On Tue, 24 May 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don IIRC, f-stops are defined by the *diameter* of the aperture, but light transmission goes as the *area* of the aperture. Thus, doubling the diamter (i.e. f/8-f/16) *quadruples* the light transmission. A stop is defined as a doubling/halving of the light, so f-stops at a ratio of sqrt(2) \approx 1.4 are one stop apart. Fratio = (sqrt(2))^N where N is the number of stops. Solving for N yields: N = (2 log(Fratio))/(log(2)) e.g your question: (2 log(4.76/4))/(log(2)) = 0.5, or 1/2 stop The 1/2 stop ratio is 2^(1/4) = 1.189 \approx 1.2 The 1/3 stop ratio is 2^(1/6) = 1.122 So these sizes are 1/2 stop apart: 1.4 - 1.7 - 2 - 2.4 - 2.8 - 3.4 - 4 ... and these are 1/3 stop apart: 1.4 - 1.6 - 1.8 - 2 - 2.2 - 2.5 - 2.8 ... -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
RE: F stop question
Thanks Steve! Got it! Don -Original Message- From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:27 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F stop question Aaagh! I got some numbers wrong. :-( See below. Steve Jolly wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? 4.76 :-) And where does 4.76 fall? Half way between 4 and 5.6 :-) Or in other words, f4.76 is 1/4 of a stop slower than f4 and 1/4 of a stop faster than f5.6 Sorry, 1/2 a stop in both cases, not 1/4 This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. Therefore the 1.7x converter introduces a 3/4 stop decrease in the effective aperture size. And that should read a 1.5 stop decrease. The rest is correct. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. It's easy - multiply by sqrt(2), or by sqrt(sqrt(2)), etc. Here's an example: Halfway between f4 and f8 is f5.6 4 * sqrt(2) = 5.6 5.6 * sqrt(2) = 8 Halfway between f4 and f5.6 is f4.76 4 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 4.76 4.76 * sqrt(sqrt(2)) = 5.6 Spot the pattern? :-) This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. Well, I haven't tried to explain it exhaustively, 'cos people complain when I do that... but I've answered your questions at least. ;-) S
Re: 13 Days with Pentax
Kevin Waterson wrote: Just re-subscribed after a 13 Day photo shoot of Dance. The Dance was an Eisteddfod of dance with a mix of Ballet, tap, jazz, cultural, contemporary and others. My job was to capture each act digitally for sale during the Eisteddfod. Equipment 2 x *istD 1 x 70-200mm 2.8 Tamaron AF 1 x 50mm 1.4 Pentax AF Store full of rechargable batteries 6 x 512 CF Cards 1 X iBook 1 x Server with 250 gig external drive 2 x terminals for public veiwing. On setting up our computer network we discovered the wireless connection would not work in the theatre, so we had to get some cat5 cable and run this from the laptop to the server, about 80 meters. The set up was that I would take the photo's in the theatre and download the CF cards down to the server in the foyer. This worked well. This was the day before the Day 1. Day 1. We were not given any time to test the lighting and so the first photo was yellow as the auto WB could not cope with the tungsten lights. A quick switch to tungsten manually fixed this and the photos looked good. At 2.8 I was able to shoot at 1/350 but after a word with the lighting techs we were able to shoot 1600 ISO, 2.8, 1/750. This was great and we were off and running. Day 2. CF card crashed but we were able to regain all the data exept 4 files that were corrupt. Later, it happened again and I formatted all the cards and made sure fully charged batteries were used for each session, 3 per day, and that the CF cards were formatted for each session. There were no more CF card problems after this. Day 3. The *istD locked up. I turned it on, off, shook it, yelled at it but no response. I removed the batteries and put them back in and away it went again with no problem until about an hour later when it happened again. Same remedy to fix it. This was not good, so I switched to the back-up body and it lasted well for the rest of the days till the end. The network worked like a charm and the customers could order thier prints after viewing them on the terminals in foyer. The *istD that failed is now in the hands of C.R.Kennedy for repair. The other body is still functioning normally. In all over 45,000 photos during the 13 days. The days were 12-15 hours long and it is good to be back home with the family. I am sorry I cannot provide samples as it is part of the contract not to put any of the images on the net, some of the childrens sessions are very young and in very small costumes. In all, a successful and profitable trip. Does this make the *istD a 'Pro' level It always was... camera? Kind regards Kevin -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:15:29AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye.jpg http://www.robertstech.com/temp/eye2.jpg damn that's a big bicycle monocycle - but suprisingly easy to ride 8-) Next: puncture jokes. Guess you spoke too soon... FX: rimshot
Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
I'm not sure that a high speed card is even necessary for transferring to the computer. The camera doesn't actually take much advantage of it. I use a USB 2.0 hub and my not particularly special Lexar 1gig card takes about 2 minutes to xfer to the computer. If you can fill up another card in that amount of time you have serious issues, (and something other than a *ist-D/Ds). Thibouille wrote: I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer? -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ... -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
RE: F stop question
Thanks Peter, I just downloaded it. Don -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:45 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F stop question There's a neat little utility called Fcalc from a company called Tangentsoft http://www.tangentsoft.net/ The version that runs under windows is free. It's worth downloading for help file, which contains the all the formulas used, alone. It includes an Fstop calculator The multiplier isn't particularly simple if you want accuracy. Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Not a problem at all Shel. It's just that you started out with a blanket statement Microdrives don't work well, and I thought that was a misleading assertion. For many people they work just fine. It is good to know their altitude limitations, as you said. I don't work as well at 10,000 ft either. It's the same specification as for computers and laptop PC's in general, most any device containing a hard drive. Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:39:03 -0700 Which was exactly the point of the post. Some people don't know about the limitations of the drives, and many people who live at lower elevations take trips and vacations into the mountains. In many parts of the world that means elevations above 9000 feet. Just driving around the western part of the US puts you at higher elevations frequently. I believe Thibouille lives in or near a mountainous area and the post was a heads-up if he does and is considering using a microdrive. You seem to have a problem with my posting the information. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] So don't use it in those applications... that specification does not equate with 'don't work well'. For you who lives essentially at sea level, it wouldn't be a problem. Luminous Landscape has an article regarding microdrive usage. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:13 -0700 Microdrives don't work well, and may even fail to work, at high altitudes, above 9,000 feet. From IBM: The Microdrive does need AIR to float the heads and typically above 10,000 ft the mass of the air is too low and the drive requires a pressurized environment similar to an aircraft or spacecraft. At high altitude the air bearings begin to loose support from the air molecules needed to provide the air bearing for the Negative Air Bearing Surface (NABS) design of the head. If this air bearing is removed or lowered (as is the case with low density air at high altitudes) the head damages the media and you could have loss of data. The drive is vented to maintain equal pressure inside and outside to provide the air and to maintain the same pressure. This eliminates the need for sealed and rigid covers that can tolerate pressure differences. The OEM Functional specification defines the warranty range for operating altitude as 3,000 M or 9,000 ft (3ft/M) Shel From: Thibouille I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer?
Re: Raw
... just a pair of little and easy scripts Thanks. Perhaps I'll fool with them when I get back from my travel. let us know... I don't have a lot of time to do an analysis of GIMP vs Photoshop CS vs Photoshop Elements 3, I can understand... but it isn't so much the feature differences as the way the programs work. GIMP's user interaction model is very clumsy to me, where Photoshop and Photoshop Elements are both easier to learn and easier to remember. you know what? it's just the same reason why I do not use Photoshop ;) I hate it's GUI...eheheh (but I know it's better) The biggest omission in GIMP, IIRC, is that it doesn't support useful color management, or that I never figured out how to get color management turned on ... same thing, in essence. That single omission is enough for me to forget about using it. I need to be able to make prints without problems and without having to recalibrate the setup constantly. well, the gimp have been improved a lot lately (the last year or so)... Godfrey ciao, Danilo.
Re: PESO(s) -- The Great Poppy Hunt - Part 1
Untitled is none too shabby. I like it. It might be a little stronger with more of a vertical format. I don't know where you're located but I've heard Gorman is one of the main places for poppy shooting, although I've heard this wasn't an especially good year for poppies. With all the rain on the left coast I would have thought it would have been a banner year. I believe Geo's Poppy book list other places he's shot poppies. Don't feel bad in your poppy quest. Geo's book is the result of over 15 yrs of poppy shooting. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO(s) -- The Great Poppy Hunt - Part 1 Well, not so great, kind of boring, actually. But here is is. :-) The California state flower is the California poppy. Which is a wildflower -- basically a weed. Because it is a weed it tends to grow by roadsides, and in some inaccessible places like on the sides of a steep hills. It's a simple flower, but strongly orange and they are quite beautiful when they spring up everywhere. The cool thing about poppies is when they catch the sun in their cups, they glow. (And are even more orange.) They bloom from March-August, but there is usually one month when they are at their peak. Only the peak month really differs from year to year. It depends on rain, etc. So you can't really know year to year where poppies will appear and where/when they will appear in profusion. I wanted to shoot a field of poppies. When I attended the George Lepp workshop, well, he's into poppies, showed a lot of pictures of them. Even FIELDS OF POPPIES. So I asked him where he found a field and he said near Arden which is near Sacramento. So, pressured by things I am not explaining, one day I popped Mom into the car and we drove up to Sacramento. I never found the turn off for Arden and the traffic approaching Sacramento was horrendous (and I am used to awful traffic. I mean, it was really, really bad). Okay, I didn't plan it well, didn't have a good map. I just went with a Yahoo map. Not good enough. Mom and I eventually turned back. About a 3-3 1/2 trip. I should have taken poppies about 20 minutes into the trip when I saw some by the road in Benicia. A few weeks later I was hiking on Mt. Diablo and bumped into a woman that told me of two places that did have actual poppy FIELDS. But looking them up later I discovered they were near Big Sur and I decided it was too far away. So, this year, yet again, my dream of taking a poppy field remains just a dream. There was a profusion of poppies right near me in a road's center divider last year. But this year they have weed wacked it to death -- no poppies this year. Harder and harder to find poppies, because people weed wack more and more. So I have been driving around poppy spotting for months. Unfortunately, this year, it's been very overcast and/or rainy for months. Poppies love sun. At first, I thought I had missed all the poppies, then I decided that peak season this year was late because of the weather. I am still seeing poppies here and there, but only small clumps. I will keep trying to shoot more. Although no fields of them. Sniff, sniff. :-( Anyway, about a month ago, in extreme frustration, I took some poppy shots on the hillside across from my old high school. They've been blooming there since I went there. That is one place no one has weed wacked them, because I went there about 35-40 years ago. But, they are mixed in with other weeds, which is, btw, the way they usually grow. Only three photos for now -- 1. typical poppy 2. shows mainly how they grow, in with other weeds, often on a steep hill side 3. this shot is sort of messy, other weeds again, but it does really show how the poppies can glow http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/ or you can go to the first one and click on the next button http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/pages/poppy1.htm Comments welcome, naturally. I've spotted two new clumps of poppies recently, so maybe I can get some good Macro shots. We shall see. The poppy hunt continues -- and so will this story, with more pictures -- later. ;-) Although I'll abbreviate the story part, because it's really not that interesting now that I read it over. Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Actually what i said is that they don't work well =at high altitudes=, not that they don't work well. Glad we cleared that up. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Not a problem at all Shel. It's just that you started out with a blanket statement Microdrives don't work well, and I thought that was a misleading assertion.
Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last...
I guess we'll have to pedal this thread somewhere else. I heard it was BARred here. But we could then start a chain letter. I better stop before I get CRANKy. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 24, 2005 11:32 AM To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My London PDML 2005 Gallery, at last... On 24/5/05, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed: yep. it's a vicious cycle Can you handle it? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PESO(s) -- The Great Poppy Hunt - Part 1
In a message dated 5/24/2005 10:14:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't feel bad in your poppy quest. Geo's book is the result of over 15 yrs of poppy shooting. Kenneth Waller == Well, that's true. Thanks. I looked at the book, but didn't buy it. Right, he's been taking poppies and poppies and poppies. I do have one or two shots I like I will share later. And I couldn't figure out if the first shot should be vertical or horizontal. I'll play with it. I'll keep at it. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Another GFM photo
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another GFM photo I am planning to bring my favorites done whilst taking the darkroom class the past few winters. I have several 11x14's i want to bring if i can find something nice to carry them. Also a few from the digital darkroom Please keep the giggles down when viewing.vbg I'll see if I can't dig up my portfolio. Should be good for a few laughs. William Robb
Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: Who started the enablement here anyway? Cesar looked for someone to blame for his recent acquisitions: Mike Johnston actually started it. Many have been happy to continue with his work. I think of it as a fine legacy, corrupting lives, ruining credit ratings. William Robb
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
With 1 gig CF cards now selling for eighty bucks or so, I can't think of any good reason to go with a microdrive. The fewer moving parts, the better. Paul Actually what i said is that they don't work well =at high altitudes=, not that they don't work well. Glad we cleared that up. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Not a problem at all Shel. It's just that you started out with a blanket statement Microdrives don't work well, and I thought that was a misleading assertion.
Re: Another GFM photo
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll see if I can't dig up my portfolio. Oh, I won't be offended if you can't find it: I eat enough humble pie at these events anyway... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: F stop question
That's a very handy little program, I got the Palm OS version too. It's crude but for $8.00 worth it. I see they'll have a new Palm version soon for $15.00. Thanks Peter, Don -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:45 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: F stop question There's a neat little utility called Fcalc from a company called Tangentsoft http://www.tangentsoft.net/ The version that runs under windows is free. It's worth downloading for help file, which contains the all the formulas used, alone. It includes an Fstop calculator The multiplier isn't particularly simple if you want accuracy. Don Sanderson wrote: How does one figure partial stop numbers? For instance what stop is half way between 4 and 5.6? And where does 4.76 fall? This is a 2.8 lens with the SMCP-F 1.7x converter. I'm guessing there is a simple multiplier for this but with my limited knowledge of math I have no clue what it is. This is more out of curiosity than necessity. Someone posted a link to this info but I can't find it again. TIA Don -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Hi! I guess normal is: * faster ? * less power consumption while Microdrive is: * cheaper :D While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer? I've got 2 1GB Sandisk Ultra II cards... They work just fine. I bought them for $140 (2 * 70) back when I got my *istD... Been a happy chap ever since... Boris
PAW: Etude in Soft
Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=191069 Please be brutal. But honest :). Today I took a soft lens for my project shooting... Boris
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
For those who might be interested, this page has a breakaway photo of the drive, as well as other information. Kind of interesting if you've never seen the inside of one of these puppies ;-)) http://www.steves-digicams.com/microdrive.html Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] With 1 gig CF cards now selling for eighty bucks or so, I can't think of any good reason to go with a microdrive. The fewer moving parts, the better.
Re: Another GFM photo
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another GFM photo I am planning to bring my favorites done whilst taking the darkroom class the past few winters. I have several 11x14's i want to bring if i can find something nice to carry them. Also a few from the digital darkroom Please keep the giggles down when viewing.vbg I'll see if I can't dig up my portfolio. Should be good for a few laughs. William Robb Well i should mention my 'portfoloi' is a ratty old 3 ring binder from work,with a pile of page protectors. We can laugh together.vbg Dave
Re: PAW: Etude in Soft
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=191069 Please be brutal. But honest :). Today I took a soft lens for my project shooting... Boris Whooo, boy! I can't even read the headlines on that paper, it's so soft! ;-) keith whaley
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
I agree at the 1GB point, but compare at the 4GB capacity and microdrives are significantly less. I'm taking some long trips where I want more storage than 1GB so I don't have to manage alot of CF's. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:48:37 + With 1 gig CF cards now selling for eighty bucks or so, I can't think of any good reason to go with a microdrive. The fewer moving parts, the better. Paul Actually what i said is that they don't work well =at high altitudes=, not that they don't work well. Glad we cleared that up. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Not a problem at all Shel. It's just that you started out with a blanket statement Microdrives don't work well, and I thought that was a misleading assertion.
Re: PESO - Follow me, chaps!
Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: Hi, A fortunate coming together of many factors. Unfortunately not including the lens I would have chosen or the body. This is about a 40% crop out of a file from the Optio 330GS. On holiday in Weymouth, Dorset, last year. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3347/display/3194647 mike Great grab and fun shot! Oddly it lacks contrast on my monitor - is it really low contrast? Technically, it is utter (insert expletive of choice here) Bright cloudy day, no way of compensating, camera saves as jpg so even resizing causes problems, etc, etc, etc. Definitely an I wish... picture. ann - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
I just worry about putting all my eggs in one basket. I wouldn't want a 4 gig CF card either, although I think CF is less likely to fail than a microdrive. I carry 4 1 gig cards and 3 half gig cards. They'll fit in a pocket. I don't feel encumbered. And should one fail, I won't lose all my work. I also take my I-book on trips and location shoots and download the cards as soon as possible. Paul I agree at the 1GB point, but compare at the 4GB capacity and microdrives are significantly less. I'm taking some long trips where I want more storage than 1GB so I don't have to manage alot of CF's. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:48:37 + With 1 gig CF cards now selling for eighty bucks or so, I can't think of any good reason to go with a microdrive. The fewer moving parts, the better. Paul Actually what i said is that they don't work well =at high altitudes=, not that they don't work well. Glad we cleared that up. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Not a problem at all Shel. It's just that you started out with a blanket statement Microdrives don't work well, and I thought that was a misleading assertion.
Re: PAW: Etude in Soft
In a message dated 5/24/2005 11:20:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=191069 Please be brutal. But honest :). Today I took a soft lens for my project shooting... Boris Whooo, boy! I can't even read the headlines on that paper, it's so soft! ;-) keith whaley == Looks pretty good, Boris. Okay, with the smiley, I guess you know they aren't in English, keith. Marnie aka Doe
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
I agree in principle, and I plan on emptying the 4GB daily or more often if I fill it up sooner. I, like most people, tend to split the finest of hairs on things like this and then split them again. I'm trying to become less like myself. :) There's no guarantees. With film, it could be bad (out of my control), it could be processed wrong (out of my control), the camera could malfunction (out of my control). I see the same situation with digital. With CF or microdrives, either could give up the ghost with no or little warning. In my case, saving money on a 4GB microdrive (only $160)... 4 1GB CF crads would be $250-$280, a 4GB flash is $400+. Buys a few bottles of Italian wine. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:40:24 + I just worry about putting all my eggs in one basket. I wouldn't want a 4 gig CF card either, although I think CF is less likely to fail than a microdrive. I carry 4 1 gig cards and 3 half gig cards. They'll fit in a pocket. I don't feel encumbered. And should one fail, I won't lose all my work. I also take my I-book on trips and location shoots and download the cards as soon as possible. Paul I agree at the 1GB point, but compare at the 4GB capacity and microdrives are significantly less. I'm taking some long trips where I want more storage than 1GB so I don't have to manage alot of CF's. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:48:37 + With 1 gig CF cards now selling for eighty bucks or so, I can't think of any good reason to go with a microdrive. The fewer moving parts, the better. Paul Actually what i said is that they don't work well =at high altitudes=, not that they don't work well. Glad we cleared that up. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 5/24/2005 10:02:27 AM Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive? Not a problem at all Shel. It's just that you started out with a blanket statement Microdrives don't work well, and I thought that was a misleading assertion.
Re: PAW: Etude in Soft
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/24/2005 11:20:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=191069 Please be brutal. But honest :). Today I took a soft lens for my project shooting... Boris Whooo, boy! I can't even read the headlines on that paper, it's so soft! ;-) keith whaley == Looks pretty good, Boris. Okay, with the smiley, I guess you know they aren't in English, keith. Marnie aka Doe Yup... grin keith
Re: PAW and a Question
Hi Boris - I suppose the critic meant split composition in that the image can be seen as having to competing centers of interest in the form of the two lamps. Personally I like a lot of what is going on here in terms of placing the main elements of the shot along the diagonal and in terms of the repetitions of light and pattern - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:08 AM Subject: PAW and a Question Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=190899 I've been told that this photo has broken composition. It is as if there are two separates shots inside one - one with lower lamp and the other one with the lamp above. I think that the shadows and lights work together so that this image is actually a whole. Here is the question: is this composition really broken into two halves? What defines a composition that is whole? I mean not in a sense of rules or examples, but rather in a sense of viewer's perspective... Thanks. -- Boris
Re: F stop question
Nukes vaporize the mess... Regards, Bob... A picture is worth a thousand words, but it uses up three thousand times the memory. From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Forbes wrote: Glad you said that. I couldn't work out how you got those numbers, but didn't want to argue with a nuclear physicist! Fair enough - particle beams at dawn can get a little messy... ;-)
RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
And you can tell by how poorly I composed the last paragraph that a few more bottles of Italian wine is exactly what I need. Tom C. In my case, saving money on a 4GB microdrive (only $160)... 4 1GB CF crads would be $250-$280, a 4GB flash is $400+. Buys a few bottles of Italian wine. Tom C.
