Re: Not Quita a PAW PESO - A Car Photo

2005-09-24 Thread David Savage
The look on Rob's face when I told him, communicated very clearly he
was astounded by that piece of news. :-)

Dave

On 9/24/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dave told be that you'd purchased a DSLR when we caught up in Perth, he didn't
 have to revive me but it was a shock! BTW what's your exposure count so far?

 :-)

 Cheers,




 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998





Re: Loire Valley photo web page revised

2005-09-24 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée

Mark Roberts a écrit :


Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire.htm

 


Nice photos from France;-)

Just a little correction:  in french, write Château d'Amboise instead 
off  Chateau d'Ambois


Bonjour de France
Michel
   



OK, I've added the e to the end of Amboise. I'll get around to the
circumflex over the A in Chateau later...

Are you anywhere near Tours? 
 


No, I live near Toulouse.

Michel




Re: How Pentax Could Survive

2005-09-24 Thread DagT
No, but the part of it depending only on technology is. The  
advertisers want us to believe it so they can sell more stuff, but it  
still depends on the photographer.


However, you are not helping your arguments by calling names.

DagT

Den 24. sep. 2005 kl. 04.15 skrev Herb Chong:

so Dag's summary of modern sports and wildlife photography as  
artless repetition is?


Herb
- Original Message - From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive



Amateur wannabe? Why this ever-present propensity to denigrate  
or otherwise malign the other guy sdown and speak rudely to him or  
her?

That's not appropriately civil conversation.








Re: Peso: Pictures from a vacation

2005-09-24 Thread David Savage
Very nice Bill.

Kinda' reminds me of this one:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc_007.htm

At this size the image doesn't show just how much detail is there.

Dave

On 9/24/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How exciting is this?

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9528.html

 Shot with the FA200/4 macro on the istD.
 Nice lens, this picture doesn't do it justice.

 William Robb





Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-24 Thread Adam Maas

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)


I didn't have to.  There were more than enough witness' to it's 
existence. It's not like I believe in flying saucers or not believe 
in them.  I'm very cynical, but I believe there was a full frame 6 
megapixal Pentax DSLR which, due to a large number of circumstances, 
put Pentax back into their cautious mode, when bold moves are 
probably necessary.  I also believe that due to it's user interface 
it had full support for K/M lenses.  Your statement to the contrary 
not withstanding.




The MZ-D(ebacle) was long enough ago that I don't remember for sure if 
they showed a working camera or a non working mock up.
It's debatable, that they would have left the mechanical support on 
the MZ-D, had it seen the light of day anyway.
Did I read in one of your posts that the istD had the mechanical 
linkages in preproduction models but by the time the camera was in 
stores, the linkage was gone?


William Robb



I would expect them to have left in the comaptibility, it's not like 
they were working off a platform that already had abandoned this 
compatibility (As the *ist did)


-Adam



Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-24 Thread Adam Maas
Ironically, my worst film performer (Formula 5 28mm f2.8) is quite 
acceptable on Digital. And it's a cheap off brand K lens I bought for 
$10CDN.


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

Well Pentax supports them, in all exposure modes.  They certainly 
don't treat them as if they were obsolete.  Don't you see a flaw in 
just about every bodies logic here?  On both sides of this debate?  I 
know I do.  Especially since I have a number of K/M mount lenses which 
give as good as or better performance on the APS digital format than 
they do on film.


William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)


There are also newer lenses, post K/M that exhibit CA when used on 
digital, are these also obsolete?




I have one of those as well.
If it's not correctable, then for digital, yes, it isn't usable, and 
by definition, obsolete, even if nothing has replaced it.

YMMV

William Robb









Re: Norcal PDML meet

2005-09-24 Thread John Celio
I would not recommend parking *anywhere* in the city during such an 
event.

BARTing is very worth it.  How big is this lens that you can't carry it?


Well, the 250-600/f5.6 is 12lbs just by itself, and of course
there's a tripod needed as well.  Plus I've got the 300/2.8.
And, of course, whatever I need for other shooting.

I can get everything except the tripod into the Pelican 1620.
Perhaps if I make do with the monopod I'll settle for that.
It's not exactly inconspicuous for street shooting, though.


Dude, with a lens like that 250-600, you don't need to be inconspicuous --  
you could photograph people from two blocks away!


John Celio

--

http://www.neovenator.com

AIM: Neopifex

Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement. 





Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Adam Maas
I've got the III and love it for BW work (90% of my film work is BW). 
It's decent for Colour as well, but the lack of DigitalICE does show.


-Adam


Tim Sherburne wrote:


Yes, I've been considering that one myself. The folks here seem to have good
things to say about it.

t

On 9/23/05 13:55, Matjaz Osojnik wrote:

 


I went with Minolta Dual Scan IV.  I did choose a Minolta over Nikon
because they are supposed to be better with B/W scans. Price was a
deciding  factor as well.
   



 





Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

XXX
  

No hugs?

Ack, your sick!




Cheers,
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Re: control paradigms

2005-09-24 Thread Adam Maas

One of the reasons I chose a D over the DS.

-Adam


Mark Roberts wrote:


Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

When I really object, though, is when there is one common wheel for 
aperture and exposure time. I think that one control instead of two 
isn't just something you get used to; having separate ones is simply better.
   



I'm with you here. After having owned both the PZ-1p and MZ-S I greatly
prefer having the aperture control on the camera body, but it's gotta
have its own dedicated control device.


 





Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html

Shel 

I cry buckets whenever I see that. It was a cruel thing to do, but not as
cruel as actually releasing it I suppose. The sensor was junk. So sad, as
it's the reason I didn't wait, and bought a D60 instead.

But I'm happier now. Like my first ever girlfriend, bittersweet memories!




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Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

It might turn out cheaper to rip a Canon to bits and bolt the sensor  
into the back of a K1000 (there's an idea for Cotty).  No screen, no  
menus full of settings, no built-in flash: just a 24x36mm sensor and  
a memory slot is all I'd want.  Actually if you want me to buy it,  
make it a K2 instead of a K1000.

It would be easier to start with a DSLR body and fabricate a K mount onto
it




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Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Peter Jordan
Call me a luddite if you will, but every time I see a bright, sharp set of 
Velvia trannys from my LX or 645 I am convinced that as far as image quality 
goes, film still rules.


One day perhaps, but for now, I'll stick to film.

Peter

- Original Message - 
From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:14 PM
Subject: anybody still shoot film?




 Hey kids!

   I'm back  ;^)

   Got myself another 6x7  the 45mm lens and a bunch of E100vs

   ... a 165mm f2.8, a 300mm f4 and some miscellany are enroute
   to the new abodeLet The Real Photography Begin!!!

   PS: it'll also do digital via a film scanner, something like
   250 megapixels or some such ...
 !8^D  egads!

   Wild Bill on the Skenick Oregon Koast







Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Yes, some excellent shots here. Love the motion blur on the opening. 
And the pics of the anchors under the studio lights really pop.  Good 
job

Thanks Paul. I tried using a bit of fill flash in the studio but it was
pointless as the lights in there are already set to their optimum for the
scene. I don't mind stuff like this a bit warm, I think it adds to the
feel




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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

   Another great series of PJ shots Cotty. 
 Ever thought about
a career in
TV.g

Trade secret time. How'd you get the monitors to blurr and the main
portion of the shot
clear.

Thanks Dave.

Tricky getting the exposure right, but essentially, fully manual, shutter
speed at about 1/15th to 1/8th sec, aperture and ISO depending on ambient
light. Stop down too much in a dark room (the gallery) and the flash
takes over and freezes the scene, so it's wide open in there. In a bright
room, open up too much and the flash has little effect, so I stop right
down to f16. The instant nature of digital makes this exercise easier.
Then it's just experiment with the amount of movement of camera and/or
subject.

Best,,




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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cool set of shots Cotty. Can you show us the lighting set-up you used
for the 
studio shots? :-)

Har! I should have done a shot just as a reference. Nothing to do with me
mate. They had just done a 30 second promo at 5.30. The programme starts
at 6pm. I used what was there.




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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, Markus Maurer, discombobulated, unleashed:

What did you do with the first photo This is Central News, double exposure
or what?

thanks Markus.

I stood on a chair and used a slow shutter speed with flash. I prefer
doing this in the camera rather than later in Photoshop. I spend far too
long sat here in front of the screen anyway!! ;-)




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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

That tie should be outlawed.

You haven't seen the half of it. It's become a tradition over the past 16
years that people send him ties - there are literally hundreds in his
dressing room. Little old ladies and that sort of thing




Cheers,
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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

Great selection of snaps.
Good luck!

Thanks Kenneth.




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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice work, Cotty!
Thanks Godders.




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Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm used to the empty Leica,
K-series, and MX finders.

Now hang on - the MX *does* have the aperture window above the frame! It
took me weeks before I could peel off the tape..


;-)


PS I have to say, I find flashing lights annoying as well. Shame the
pentaprism can't be removed, you could access the annoyance immediately




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Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Gasha


With MF slides you get more feeling being there when you look at them.

About month ago i shot 5 rolls of Velvia/Astia in French Alps 
(Chamonix). In mountain photography film is still my preferred choice.


And i like BW photography, because it is very different. You learn a 
lot how to use light and compose. Hmm, Agfa APX100/120 is my favorite 
grainless film...


Gasha

Peter Jordan wrote:
Call me a luddite if you will, but every time I see a bright, sharp set 
of Velvia trannys from my LX or 645 I am convinced that as far as image 
quality goes, film still rules.


One day perhaps, but for now, I'll stick to film.




Re: I'm ba-ack

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

Found a new abode yet?

Argh. Came close twice. Third time's a charm (I hope).




Cheers,
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Re: Not Quita a PAW PESO - A Car Photo

2005-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd have loved to see a pic of that! LOL

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: David Savage 

 The look on Rob's face when I told him, communicated very clearly he
 was astounded by that piece of news. :-)

 Dave

 On 9/24/05, Rob Studdert wrote:

 
  Dave told be that you'd purchased a DSLR 
  when we caught up in Perth, he didn't
  have to revive me but it was a shock! 




Re: 3rd *istD body bites the dust

2005-09-24 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you positive they weren't battery related failures?
Absolutely. I could take the batteries directly from the failed body and into
a working body without a problem. When the camera was returned from repairs, 
the problem no longer existed using the same batteries (Sony NiMh)

 My istD would do the old lock out thing regularly when the batteries got a 
 bit weak, especially if I was using the external battery. It's one of the 
 reasons why I gave up in NiMh batteries, I just didn't find that they ran 
 the camer reliably.
What did you change to?

Kind regards
Kevin



-- 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Of course, the 6x7 is not digital :)
Its all I use for my own photography

Kind regards
Kevin


-- 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread David Savage
Cool series. I like the blurry flashy effect.

All the behind the scenes stuff made me think of a program called
Frontline http://www.abc.net.au/wa/stories/s1104477.htm . This
reference won't mean much to anyone outside of Australia, but it was a
comedy series that took a satirical look at the news media. People in
the know said that it was very close to the mark. Kind of like Yes,
Minister/Prime Minister  politics.

Dave

On 9/24/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In Britain, Thursday saw the 50th anniversary of ITV (Independent TV) -
 the commercial rival to the BBC - and there was a jovial mood at the
 office. I was persuaded to pop into the studio and grab some shots for
 inclusion into a 'contest' where pics from all the ITV regions will be
 used in a 'day in the life of' publication in due course

 Some of the wide angle pics, including the first on the page, were shot
 using the Pentax K15mm 3.5, so - on topic!

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/itv50.html




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Re: Not Quita a PAW PESO - A Car Photo

2005-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Rob ...

I'll try with the t'pod tomorrow and use a smaller aperture.  Never thought
about focus bracketing.  Not a bad idea ;-))

You knew I'd been thinking about a DSLR for a while and that it was just a
matter of time before I'd get one.  My little Sony had a tripod mishap, and
the price on the DS was very low, so it seemed like the perfect time to
make the move.  I'll be able to get a few dollars for the Sony to offset
the DS, which made the deal even more appealing.  Exposure count?  Not much
... only about 400 or so, although almost 100 of those were made just to
exercise a sticky aperture on a K-mount lens.  Plans are to make a few more
exposures tomorrow - maybe eight or ten ;-))

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Rob Studdert 


  I'm hoping someone (perhaps Paul) can offer a suggestion as to what
aperture and
  focus point might best provide some sharper results. This was shot at
1/800 @
  f8.0, and the focus point was at about the rear door handle.
  
  http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/bmw.html

 As a snap I don't find the focus problematic, even much larger it
wouldn't be 
 too irritating but I guess it's not the type of shot you'd be wanting to
make a 
 poster from in any case. 

 If I were out to make a shot which was sharp back to front I would be
shooting 
 using a tripod for one and probably at f16 or greater if using a camera
with an 
 APS sized sensor. The general rule of thumb for optimising focus would
suggest 
 that the absolute plane of focus should lie around 1/3 of the way into
the 
 required subject however if in this case the emblem needs to be sharp the
focus 
 plane should be brought a little more forward. I find that sharp lenses
(like 
 the 77mm) make DOF boundaries more obvious.

 I would have placed the plane of focus in a similar position to you in
this 
 particular shot and probably taken another at a different focal plane for
a 
 little cheap insurance.

 Dave told be that you'd purchased a DSLR when we caught up in Perth, he
didn't 
 have to revive me but it was a shock! BTW what's your exposure count so
far?




Re: printing papers ...

2005-09-24 Thread Powell Hargrave
I think all Epson ink jet printers have a vacuum pump to suck ink through
the heads to clear clogs.  I know all the older ones do.

Powell


Godfrey's 1270, the 1280, and most of the higher end consumer Epson printers 
all have it.
Herb...



Re: EBay Pentax Seller Question

2005-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Bob Sullivan wrote:


was leaving next month.  I asked why and he said 300
people were laid off by Pentax, including 40 corporate staff.


:-( Was that a known fact? Why is it happening?

Kostas



Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


knows what's best for the photographer.  Feh!  Having these things in the
finder is like a poke in the eye!  What, prey tell, might the reasoning be
behind this behavior?


I think we should ask JCO.

Kostas



Re: I'm ba-ack

2005-09-24 Thread David Savage
Thanks Rob.

I thought the picture of the little kid was kinda' cuteoh hang on...

VBG

I've downloaded Hugin  I'll have a play with it over weekend.

Dave

On 9/24/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 23 Sep 2005 at 21:20, David Savage wrote:

  Welcome back Rob.

 Thanks Dave, the pics you posted look pretty good (bar one :-), my city shots
 are pretty much clones, I'm going to have to play with the HDR stuff. And 
 Hugin
 was the Panotools stitching GUI that I couldn't remember the name of, it
 brilliant. http://hugin.sourceforge.net/



Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-24 Thread John Forbes
Or fabricate a Canon mount onto the world's best lenses.  Oh, wait a  
minute. somebody's done that! :-)


John

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:28:07 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 24/9/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:


It might turn out cheaper to rip a Canon to bits and bolt the sensor
into the back of a K1000 (there's an idea for Cotty).  No screen, no
menus full of settings, no built-in flash: just a 24x36mm sensor and
a memory slot is all I'd want.  Actually if you want me to buy it,
make it a K2 instead of a K1000.


It would be easier to start with a DSLR body and fabricate a K mount onto
it




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Re: EBay Pentax Seller Question

2005-09-24 Thread John Forbes
I'm amazed they had so many people TO lay off.  Did he mean Pentax  
worldwide, or just US?


Sad news, either way.

John

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 03:48:47 +0100, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



I spoke to Pentax Colorado yesterday and spoke with
the guy who acted to expedite my LX repair last time.
At the end of the conversation, he mentioned that he
was leaving next month.  I asked why and he said 300
people were laid off by Pentax, including 40 corporate staff.
He was selling some of his Pentqax items as well.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 9/23/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


- Original Message -
From: Fred Widall
Subject: Re: EBay Pentax Seller Question


I noticed him too, he has some interesting items.

 I believe that the Pentax repair facility in Mississauga recently  
closed,

 I wonder if his recent appearance on ebay is somehow related to that.

Disgruntled ex employee with keys to the warehouse?
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Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Cotty wrote:


You haven't seen the half of it. It's become a tradition over the past 16
years that people send him ties - there are literally hundreds in his
dressing room. Little old ladies and that sort of thing


I want his job.

Kostas (and the ties that go with it)



Re: control paradigms

2005-09-24 Thread Toralf Lund

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Sep 23, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

I was very used to controlling aperture from an on-lens ring with   
generations of Nikon and Leica gear. Moving to a new control   
paradigm, with control of all exposure related elements on my  
right  hand adjacent to the shutter release, took a little time.  [ 
And so on. ]



Yes, it's of course also a question of habit. When I really object,  
though, is when there is one common wheel for aperture and exposure  
time. I think that one control instead of two isn't just something  
you get used to; having separate ones is simply better.



I've had cameras with one, other cameras with two.  [ ... ]

If you have two wheels, which of these three control functions do you  
put on which wheel in what mode? The KM A2 allows me to configure it,  
and thereby confuse myself.


Yes. I should say that I quite definitely don't want the controls to be 
configurable. I think there ought to be one control that always sets 
time and another that always sets aperture.


Another thing I like about the old-style setup, is that there aren't any 
exposure modes as such, either. I mean, in the sense that auto is just 
a position on the time or aperture switch. Thus lowering the potential 
for mode confusion even further. But yes, hyper shifts are somewhat 
problematic under such a scheme...



- T



Re: control paradigms

2005-09-24 Thread Toralf Lund

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Sep 23, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Frantisek wrote:


De gustibus non est disputandum.
... I think this is an useless debate, as it really depends on  one's 
preference



I wasn't really debating  the matter. Just stating what I found in  
the movement to these new control paradigms.


I wasn't going to debate it either. I was just mentioning that I happen 
to like the aperture ring as a comment to somebody who said that they 
actually wanted something like a Canon with a Pentax mount.


- T





Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread mike wilson

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

OK, I'm lost ... how does one turn completely off the flash arrow from
showing in the finder?  Try as I might, when the light is low, the durned
arrow appears and sometime flashes on and off.  I've gotta be missing some
function or feature.


If you are not too bothered about warranty, any decent electronic 
technician should be able to remove the LED.  If they are really good, 
they would leave no trace of being there and you could say What LED? 
if ever asked.


Or you could ask Pentax service to do it.

mike



Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread David Savage
Wouldn't it  be more a matter of disconnecting the particular
connection to the LCD in the viewfinder?

Dave

On 9/24/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  OK, I'm lost ... how does one turn completely off the flash arrow from
  showing in the finder?  Try as I might, when the light is low, the durned
  arrow appears and sometime flashes on and off.  I've gotta be missing some
  function or feature.

 If you are not too bothered about warranty, any decent electronic
 technician should be able to remove the LED.  If they are really good,
 they would leave no trace of being there and you could say What LED?
 if ever asked.

 Or you could ask Pentax service to do it.

 mike





Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:40 PM
Subject: GESO - ITV @ 50



In Britain, Thursday saw the 50th anniversary of ITV (Independent TV) -
the commercial rival to the BBC - and there was a jovial mood at the
office. I was persuaded to pop into the studio and grab some shots for
inclusion into a 'contest' where pics from all the ITV regions will be
used in a 'day in the life of' publication in due course

Some of the wide angle pics, including the first on the page, were shot
using the Pentax K15mm 3.5, so - on topic!

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/itv50.html




Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_






Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis


I just remembered: Cotters, have we seen the pretty newscaster before? 
and were they colour to do justice to her eyes?


Kostas



Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:

Or fabricate a Canon mount onto the world's best lenses.  Oh, wait a  
minute. somebody's done that! :-)


Canon?

;-)  -- !!



Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cool series. I like the blurry flashy effect.

Thanks David.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!

Modesty prevents me from agreeing with you. I think I could have done
better. But thanks anyway.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: GESO - ITV @ 50

2005-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:

I just remembered: Cotters, have we seen the pretty newscaster before? 
and were they colour to do justice to her eyes?

Why Kostas you old romantic. Yes I may have posted pics of Hannah (on the
right in the two-shot) and Alex (left) is more a reporter, but she does
present. She's on the 'Berlin' page under Photo Essays.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Black White Conversion w/FA 24 f2.0

2005-09-24 Thread Juan Buhler
Thanks Jay for the compliment!

For the record: the base of what I do with my pictures are the actions
by Suleman Petteri, available in his website:

http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/n_Digital_BW/a_Digital_Black_and_White.html

I do a bit of dodging and burning to every image, and make them a
little bit warmer than the set up darkroom action makes them. But I
don't take all the PS credit...

Cheers,

j

On 9/22/05, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After admiring the awesome photoblog of Juan (Water Molotov) and great
 images from Godfrey, I have been wanting to explore different BW
 conversion  processes in Photoshop CS. This one involves dual
 Hue/Saturation adjustment layers. Not even close to dynamic range shown
 in Juan's work, but here is an example:

 http://i.pbase.com/v3/87/63987/1/49629765.DuwamishBW.jpg

 I'm really begining to appreciate the optical quality of the higher end
 Pentax glass. And yeah, LBA is starting to come into full effect.

 Comments and suggestions welcome,
 Jay




--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Siena mini-PDML

2005-09-24 Thread Juan Buhler
On Thursday I met Gianfranco in Firenze. He was there visiting a
Pentax repair center and I am passing through Italy on my way back to
the US.

We drove to Siena, and spent Thursday and part of Friday there. Great
shooting in the street, some excellent food, and we remembered some of
you list guys. Here are some pictures, I'm sure he will have some more
later on:

Here is Gianfranco cutting through a Fiorentina, a steak seemingly
made with the meat of several cows, and one of the best to be had
outside of Argentina:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053510/in/set-1006213/

We went for a little night shooting at the abandoned abbey of San Galgano:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053584/in/set-1006213/

this is my interpretation of the place:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053553/in/set-1006213/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053560/in/set-1006213/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053576/in/set-1006213/

Last, here is Gianfranco trying to figure out how to stop his car :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053594/in/set-1006213/

The whole flickr set is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/sets/1006213/


Gianfranco and I had met in Napoli in 2001, it was great to see him again!

j

--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi Shel,
Our paths are similar. The LX was the most contemporary camera I had 
used prior to purchasing an *istD. I found the viewfinder information a 
bit disconcerting at first, particularly the flash indicator that you 
mentioned. However, after using the camera for awhile I forgot that it 
was even there. On the other hand, I came to depend on other into in 
the viewfinder. With the finger accessible wheels, it's easy to change 
the ap and shutter without looking up. Ditto, the exposure 
compensation. I think it's all about becoming accustomed to a new 
environment. A year from now, you won't even know that there's a flash 
indicator in the display. You'll blank out the info you don't need.

Paul
On Sep 23, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Hi Bill ...

I suppose there's some truth to that.  Since I've come to this camera
directly from cameras that have little or nothing in the finder, this 
is
probably a bigger deal for me than for those who have transitioned  to 
the
newest cameras through models like the PZ-1p, ZX-5n, and other cameras 
with
many functions and features.  As I may have mentioned before, the LX 
is the
newest camera I  had until now - and y'know, all the information in 
the LX

finder sometimes confuses and annoys me.  I'm used to the empty Leica,
K-series, and MX finders.

Shel



[Original Message]
From: William Robb



Just a wild guess, I doubt if enough people find it bothersome for 
them

to

do what you want.
Just a wilder guess, it never occurred to them that anyone would find 
it

annoying.







Re: Not Quita a PAW PESO - A Car Photo

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi Shel,
For a 3/4 rear shot (like this) or a similar front angle I  focus on 
the license plate. The viewer's impression of sharpness is shaped by 
the foreground sharpness. The stop I use depends on the DOF of the 
particular lens. With that 77, I  think you'll need f11 or f16 to keep 
the entire car in focus if the license plate is the focal point. With 
cars that look good foreshortened, I sometimes shoot this angle with my 
A400 at f32 -- off a tripod of course. However, this car is too much of 
a jelly bean for that kind of pull. The 77 looks to be close to ideal. 
The light direction is good, but full sun is always a bit harsh. A 
similar light direction with the sun just below the horizon in early 
morning or late afternoon would be excellent. Or the same light 
direction as you have here with a light cloud cover would be very nice. 
Of course that would make the tripod a necessity. I would also move the 
car as far away from the background as possible. (That's why good car 
shooting locations are hard to find:-).

Paul
On Sep 23, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I'm using this car for a while and decided a little snap was in order. 
 I
used the 77mm lens on the DS, and found the perspective pleasing.  
However,
the sharpness of the license plate and deck emblem leaves something to 
be
desired.  I'm hoping someone (perhaps Paul) can offer a suggestion as 
to

what aperture and focus point might best provide some sharper results.
This was shot at 1/800 @ f8.0, and the focus point was at about the 
rear

door handle.

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/bmw.html


Shel






Re: Peso: Another picture from a vacation

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
This is my favorite of the three. Rich color, nice detail. I like the 
way you've split the frame with the top of the waterfall. It's a 
different way of looking at this type of scene.

Paul
On Sep 24, 2005, at 12:29 AM, William Robb wrote:


I promise, last one tonight.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9192.html
Technical
istD, F*300/4.5, 1/6 second, f/16

William Robb





RE: PESO: Vienna, 2005

2005-09-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
This is a very well told story, Juan. Poor man. Let us hope he has better
luck another time.
As people has said before me: Well seen, and well executed. A classic image!


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17. september 2005 19:32
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Vienna, 2005
 
 OK, to make up for the earlier one, this one is more like what I shoot:
 
 http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=240
 
 (istD, FA35/2, 1/10s handheld to blur the people, will probably work
 much better when printed big)
 
 Sad story: that gentleman spent a while (maybe 30' or so) waiting in
 the rain with a rose, and finally left, alone. I hanged around hoping
 to see a happy meeting, but it didn't happen :(
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 j
 
 --
 Juan Buhler
 http://www.jbuhler.com
 photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
 






Re: printers

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
What Dave said. I use at least two light magenta and light cyan for 
every dark magenta and dark cyan. Yellow is usually the third to go.

Paul
On Sep 24, 2005, at 1:16 AM, David Mann wrote:


On Sep 24, 2005, at 3:50 AM, graywolf wrote:

For photos the individual ink tanks are not that hot a deal. That is 
because you tend to use them all up at about the same time.


Mine are used up at greatly different rates.  I think that light 
magenta is the fastest to go, closely followed by light cyan and 
probably photo black.


- Dave





Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Tom Reese
Peter Jordan wrote:

 Call me a luddite if you will, but every time I see a bright, sharp set of
 Velvia trannys from my LX or 645 I am convinced that as far as image
quality
 goes, film still rules.

If you were female I'd marry you.

Tom Reese




Re: Siena mini-PDML

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

Nice. Love the abbey pics. And that steak looks good as well:-).
Paul
On Sep 24, 2005, at 6:52 AM, Juan Buhler wrote:


On Thursday I met Gianfranco in Firenze. He was there visiting a
Pentax repair center and I am passing through Italy on my way back to
the US.

We drove to Siena, and spent Thursday and part of Friday there. Great
shooting in the street, some excellent food, and we remembered some of
you list guys. Here are some pictures, I'm sure he will have some more
later on:

Here is Gianfranco cutting through a Fiorentina, a steak seemingly
made with the meat of several cows, and one of the best to be had
outside of Argentina:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053510/in/set-1006213/

We went for a little night shooting at the abandoned abbey of San 
Galgano:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053584/in/set-1006213/

this is my interpretation of the place:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053553/in/set-1006213/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053560/in/set-1006213/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053576/in/set-1006213/

Last, here is Gianfranco trying to figure out how to stop his car :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053594/in/set-1006213/

The whole flickr set is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/sets/1006213/


Gianfranco and I had met in Napoli in 2001, it was great to see him 
again!


j

--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com





Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Scott Loveless
Don't let that stop you.

On 9/24/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter Jordan wrote:

  Call me a luddite if you will,

 If you were female I'd marry you.

 Tom Reese



--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If you were female I'd marry you.

Prude!

Kevin 


-- 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Pentax Petition-UPDATE

2005-09-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Well, so far, not so good. ;-(

We've only had a few interested parties so far, not nearly
enough to have an impact on Pentax decision making.

I've talked to other PDML members more in the know
about this than I and they feel Pentax already monitors
this, and other lists, so this may not be a worthwhile effort.

Regardless, I will keep [EMAIL PROTECTED] active
for comments on this subject AND I am working on a
web form that will allow people to enter their wish list
and demographics and I will monitor and tally this on
a regular basis. Results will be reported to the PDML.

It will be a few days before this happens as my web
skills have gotten a tad rusty. ;-)

Don





Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


I'm back  ;^)

Got myself another 6x7  the 45mm lens and a bunch of E100vs

   ... a 165mm f2.8, a 300mm f4 and some miscellany are enroute
	   to the new abodeLet The Real Photography Begin!!! 

PS: it'll also do digital via a film scanner, something like 
250 megapixels or some such ...  


I have a little film project going on with my MZ-6. I have a roll of 
Agfa APX 400 that I am spending on photos of my daughter and comparing 
Tamron 90/2.5 with SMCP FA 77 Ltd at the same time ;-).


But, yet, indeed, I am very much digital...

Boris



Re: I'm ba-ack

2005-09-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Yes I did almost disappear without trace (thanks for the pic Dave, the Winter 
coat will be off shortly but I'll keep the other gray Cotty :-) 


Strong the Force is with this one ;-).

I experienced the liberation of almost seven weeks without Internet 
connectivity (both bliss and frustration in a strange combination) however in 
that time I've driven 15797km (~9818miles) and paid for thousands of L of 
hideously expensive fuel (up to AU$1.699/L or ~US$4.88/gallon) so I'm a little 
short on cash and a bit road dazed but I did shoot some OK pics (I think).


We will be the judge of that ;-).

No pics to show just yet as I'm still in the midst of unpacking and cleaning 
and eradicating email spam whilst attempting to manage 63GB of pics. It's good 
to be subscribed again, will try to keep a eye on the list but will be pretty 
busy for a few weeks yet, looks like I missed a few good spats too ;-)


WB. Do show us some pics...

Boris



Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Tom Reese
Hey, I have some standards. Who do you think I am? Cotty?

Tom Reese

 Don't let that stop you.
 
 On 9/24/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Peter Jordan wrote:
 
   Call me a luddite if you will,
 
  If you were female I'd marry you.
 
  Tom Reese



Published

2005-09-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg

This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg

Dario 



Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread David Savage
Sweet. I hadn't seen that shot. Very nice.

Dave

On 9/24/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg

 This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg

 Dario





Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
And I've been asked these two by ETH, for making a poster: 
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth10.jpg

http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth24.jpg

And I've been asked this one by the subject (Jim Thomson) for his C/V:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/trig05/trig323.jpg

So apparently I had a successful photo day that day.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: Published



Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg

This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg

Dario 





RE: PESO: The Laguna

2005-09-24 Thread Tim Øsleby
An interesting photo.

But Jens, I don't get this. 
I have a naive(?) question. 
Why using a 344mm setup for panopics? My choice would simply be using a
wider lens, and cutting top and bottom of the image in post processing. 
I do understand that your approach gives more details. But if I'm not
mistaken you are shooting for a magazine here. Can't see that a magazine
format will display the details.
To me it seems like a lot of trouble, for, what? 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18. september 2005 17:08
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: The Laguna
 
 I shoot panoramas.
 This one i for work. We are planning and building a new 40 ha harbour.
 Some
 panoramas will illustrate an article about this in magazine shortly.
 
 I think it is very diffucult to get the colours right. I must underexpose
 quite a lot to prevent burned out highlights. In order to get the colours
 right, I edit the photographs PS after RAW conversion. I make several
 layers:
 An original layer, a munual levels layer, an autolevels layer and an
 autocolours layer. Then I mix these layers until I thinks it looks
 right.
 
 http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p20325574.html
 
 Pentax *ist D, SMC-F 1.7 AF Adapter, SMC-K 2.8/135mm, Tripod, two spirit
 levels, PhotoVista 3.5 and PS 8.01.
 Regards
 
 Jens Bladt
 Arkitekt MAA
 






Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Congratulations. Great shot. Nice layout in the magazine as well. Did 
you have the whole row of lights on the original image, or was it 
retouched for the pub? Excellent work. A good one for your portfolio.

Paul
On Sep 24, 2005, at 8:18 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg

This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg

Dario




Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

And I've been asked this one by the subject (Jim Thomson) for his C/V:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/trig05/trig323.jpg


I forgot to say that Jim is the bass drummer of Clan Wallace scottish band.
http://www.braveheartscotland.com/clanwallaceband/bins/site/templates/splash.asp

Dario 



Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thanks Paul. Yes, the row of lights is as it is in the original image.
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Published


Congratulations. Great shot. Nice layout in the magazine as well. Did 
you have the whole row of lights on the original image, or was it 
retouched for the pub? Excellent work. A good one for your portfolio.

Paul
On Sep 24, 2005, at 8:18 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg

This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg

Dario






*ist-D raw files compressed: results

2005-09-24 Thread Thibouille
I wanted to know how a raw file would compress, specially since D
files are quite big (bigger than DS as you probably know). I tried a
couple formats. My point was to know how it would compress the best,
not taking speed into account !!
Of course size will vary with the software you use and with options chosen.

Original PEF filesize: 14.222 KB
Zipped (maximum): 8.686 KB
RAR v2.5 (maximum): 8034 KB
ACE v2.6 (maximum): 8630 KB
7-zip (LZMA algorithm, 32MB dictionary size, 128bytes word size): 7308KB

I'm definitely impressed by 7-zip format. Although it is quite slow
(with the mehtod and options I chose since speed was not important) it
is way beter than others.
RAR is a bit beter than Zip but I thought it'd do beter. ACE is both
less effective than RAR (which took me as a surprise) and about as
effective as ZIP which is definitely a huge surprise for me, I thought
it'd be between RAR and 7-zip.

So IMO, if I'd need to compress, I'd go either Zip (because pretty
standard) or 7-zip (because best compression ration).
I'll add that 7zip software and algorithm is fully Open Source (a
Linux binary is also available).

Lastly, do not forget that compression formats not only do compress
but also do usually incorporate CRC and other ways of retreiving your
data if damage went to files.
If your PEF files or damaged, you're screwed.

So maybe it is a good idea to backup your PEF files somewhere compressed?
Just my 2 cents...

--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...



PESO: Moon over Mer de Glace

2005-09-24 Thread Gasha


http://gasha.pie-dabas.net/peso/alpi-06-moon-over-mer-de-glace.jpg

Pentax 645, 55mm lens, with tripod of course
Velvia 50

Gasha



Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thanks Dave. Here are four galleries of pictures I took that day:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/trig05e.htm
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter05e.htm
http://www.dariobonazza.com/eth052e.htm
http://www.aohc.it/aohcgallery/gall10e.htm

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Published



Sweet. I hadn't seen that shot. Very nice.

Dave




RE: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Congratulations Dario!
It's a splendid shot, and the magazine did a fine job with it.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:19 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Published
 
 
 Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg
 
 This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg
 
 Dario 
 



Re: PESO: Moon over Mer de Glace

2005-09-24 Thread Jack Davis
Gasha,
Dramatic, terrific scene nicely exposed! Difficult vantage point to
gain?
Having this image on a high resolution 645 film must be extra
satisfying.

Jack

--- Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 http://gasha.pie-dabas.net/peso/alpi-06-moon-over-mer-de-glace.jpg
 
 Pentax 645, 55mm lens, with tripod of course
 Velvia 50
 
 Gasha
 
 




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Re: Peso: Pictures from a vacation

2005-09-24 Thread Jack Davis
Rob,
Okay, I give up. 8-D

Jack

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How exciting is this?
 
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9528.html
 
 Shot with the FA200/4 macro on the istD.
 Nice lens, this picture doesn't do it justice.
 
 William Robb
 
 




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Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 38q - GDG

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A photo from another project I'm working on...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/38q.htm

Comments, flames, critique per your predilection. :-)

Man, it's already Saturday morning and no one's commented on this yet???
So I'll be the first
I really love the texture and lighting. Great tonal range. 
I kind of wish both leaves weren't on the left side of the frame, but
what can you do about that?
Did I mention that I really love the texture and lighting? This is a
shot I'd love to have a print of.
  
 
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Photography and writing
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Re: TLR cameras. Note topic change.

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pete and Dud meet at an art gallery...

snip one of my all-time favorite Pete-and-Dud bits

Love it! That's from Not only but Also isn't it? (The show in which
they got the Royal Navy to launch Dud's piano off an aircraft carrier).
I know that's one of the sketches that didn't get lost - my parents have
a collection on video.

I also like the one where they're in their flat discussing Debussy's
Mum (took me ages to realize they were referring to La Mer).
:-)
 
 
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Photography and writing
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Re: PESO: Moon over Mer de Glace

2005-09-24 Thread Gasha


Scanned image looks flat, and cannot be compared with original.

MF camera weights nothing, compared with backpack over 20kg :)
It took almost entire day to cross glacier ar get there.

What impresses me is that moon looks like a moon on 120 slide film, not 
like a piece of dust on 35mm velvia.


Gasha

Jack Davis wrote:

Gasha,
Dramatic, terrific scene nicely exposed! Difficult vantage point to
gain?
Having this image on a high resolution 645 film must be extra
satisfying.

Jack

--- Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://gasha.pie-dabas.net/peso/alpi-06-moon-over-mer-de-glace.jpg

Pentax 645, 55mm lens, with tripod of course
Velvia 50

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Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Congratulations Dario!
It's a splendid shot, and the magazine did a fine job with it.

What Don said!
 
 
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Photography and writing
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Re: Agfa News

2005-09-24 Thread Bob Shell
FWIW, the Scala process is different from ordinary reversal processing 
for black and white films.  In Europe Tetenal was selling a kit for 
processing Scala for a while.  I doubt the old Kodak reversal kits or 
home-brew equivalents would work properly on Scala.


Bob


On Friday, September 23, 2005, at 11:05  PM, Gautam Sarup wrote:


Yeah.  Thanks.  I going to try them out
with the next batch.

Gautam


-Original Message-
From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 3:54 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Agfa News


No clue if they're any good, but these guys claim they can process 
Scala:

http://www.dr5.com/main.html

On 9/23/05, Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Find out how long they will support processing before you go

wild on the

film purchase.


Good idea.  Thanks.

Gautam





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Re: PAW - Kristi

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maybe anybody participating in this lengthy green button discussion could
simply start posting some pictures taken with manual lenses on the *istD
instead of endless repeating the same arguments over and over?

Here ya go:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire001.htm
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire033.htm
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire034.htm
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire035.htm
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire043.htm
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/loire046.htm

These were taken with a Cosina 200/4.0 manual focus lens (no A
setting). These small web images don't do it justice - it's really a
very nice lens, both optically and in terms of construction. It's back
from the days when lenses were built from lots o' metal and glass :)
even though it's M class in terms of size.
 
 
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Re: PESO: Moon over Mer de Glace

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://gasha.pie-dabas.net/peso/alpi-06-moon-over-mer-de-glace.jpg

Pentax 645, 55mm lens, with tripod of course
Velvia 50

Great shot! I want the GPS coordinates of that location ;-)
 
 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
This is a good poll. Pentax users stating what
they would like to see in future PENTAX DSLR cameras.

Great idea. But could someone please explain
to me why the K/M open aperture and AE function
( AKA Full support of ALL PK lenses) being
disussed this week isnt a valid desireable
function just like all the other ones on
this wish list?

I say this because the standard and numerous
opposition to K/M OA metering  AE has been
it adds cost. Well so does all these other
things everyone is asking for. I do not agree
that features should not be added just because
they add ANY cost to produce them. Build better
models and charge more for them is the solution.

Should the survey be limited to features
that should be added to future DSLRS that
can only be added for free? 

I think NOT.

jco  



Re: Pentax Petition-UPDATE

2005-09-24 Thread Rick Womer
Don,

The instructions for posting our ideas must have
gotten lost in the ongoing cat fight/flame war; in any
case I didn't see them.  Could you kindly repost them?

Rick

--- Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, so far, not so good. ;-(
 
 We've only had a few interested parties so far, not
 nearly
 enough to have an impact on Pentax decision making.
 
 I've talked to other PDML members more in the know
 about this than I and they feel Pentax already
 monitors
 this, and other lists, so this may not be a
 worthwhile effort.
 
 Regardless, I will keep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 active
 for comments on this subject AND I am working on a
 web form that will allow people to enter their wish
 list
 and demographics and I will monitor and tally this
 on
 a regular basis. Results will be reported to the
 PDML.
 
 It will be a few days before this happens as my web
 skills have gotten a tad rusty. ;-)
 
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Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm

2005-09-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Since I did not manage to get a KL 2.5/200mm yesterday (grrr), in spite
of the efforts of a very helpful PDML menmber, I decided to borrow a Sigma
EX 2.8/70-200mm APO. Just like the one Jostein is using.

According to www.photodo.com the Sigma is even better than the original -
the SMC FA 2.8/80-200mm.
Aledgedly the best 70-200mm available for Pentax???
I doubt this is the truth, since the Sigma (here) costs only 1/3 of the
original Pentax lens.
The high cost may be caused by very low sales figures.
Sigma has this lens listed at the same price as the HSM-versions for C and
N. The higher cost (no HSM) for the Pentax mount version should make up for
the presumably lower sales figures :-) ??

I don't realy know if I'm ready to blow 1500 USD on this baby.
Of course I could get it from Germany for appr. 1000 USD (845 Euro).

It's good, but not THAT good, is it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/46083404/


Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt




Re: PESO: Moon over Mer de Glace

2005-09-24 Thread Rick Womer
I can only imagine what the original looks like, with
a flat scan as beautiful as this!

Rick

--- Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Scanned image looks flat, and cannot be compared
 with original.
 
 MF camera weights nothing, compared with backpack
 over 20kg :)
 It took almost entire day to cross glacier ar get
 there.
 
 What impresses me is that moon looks like a moon on
 120 slide film, not 
 like a piece of dust on 35mm velvia.
 
 Gasha
 
 Jack Davis wrote:
  Gasha,
  Dramatic, terrific scene nicely exposed! Difficult
 vantage point to
  gain?
  Having this image on a high resolution 645 film
 must be extra
  satisfying.
  
  Jack
  
  --- Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  

http://gasha.pie-dabas.net/peso/alpi-06-moon-over-mer-de-glace.jpg
 
 Pentax 645, 55mm lens, with tripod of course
 Velvia 50
 
 Gasha
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 38q - GDG

2005-09-24 Thread Rick Womer
Well, I'm afraid it doesn't do anything for me.  A
couple of leaves and a dead bug (is that what it is?)
on a sidewalk is tough subject matter.

Rick

--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A photo from another project I'm working on...
 
   
 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/38q.htm
 
 Comments, flames, critique per your predilection.
 :-)
 
 Man, it's already Saturday morning and no one's
 commented on this yet???
 So I'll be the first
 I really love the texture and lighting. Great tonal
 range. 
 I kind of wish both leaves weren't on the left side
 of the frame, but
 what can you do about that?
 Did I mention that I really love the texture and
 lighting? This is a
 shot I'd love to have a print of.
   
  
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 Photography and writing
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Siena PDML and other things...

2005-09-24 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody,

Yesterday night I came back home, after a two and 1/2 days trip
in central Italy. I had a lot of gear to bring to the Pentax
assistance, and when Juan Buhler told us he was going to be in
Toscana I thought it was the right time.
We met in Firenze, after I had spent a hour trying to explain
all the problems of the various cameras I had brought for repair
(for those who want to know all the details, another message
will follow). After lunch we headed to Siena, a place I do like
every time a bit more.
It was good to meet Juan after four years (we first met in May
2001) and to see him in action again... I have several shots of
him shooting in the streets (and other interesting subjects...)
but I have to wait for the other computer to come back to life
to upload something.
I just want to say that, once again, the PDML confirms its great
value.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: printing papers ...

2005-09-24 Thread mike wilson

Powell Hargrave wrote:

I think all Epson ink jet printers have a vacuum pump to suck ink through
the heads to clear clogs.  I know all the older ones do.

Powell


There's a pump to pull the waste ink away from the head sponge into the 
waste ink receptacle at the bottom of the printer but I don't think it 
actually sucks (sorry, ENR)ink from the head.  There is a function to 
make the print head run full speed (for want of a better description) to 
try to blow ink through all nozzles.






Godfrey's 1270, the 1280, and most of the higher end consumer Epson printers 
all have it.

Herb...









Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread mike wilson

David Savage wrote:


Wouldn't it  be more a matter of disconnecting the particular
connection to the LCD in the viewfinder?

Dave


It's likely to be a surface mount item these days.



On 9/24/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Shel Belinkoff wrote:


OK, I'm lost ... how does one turn completely off the flash arrow from
showing in the finder?  Try as I might, when the light is low, the durned
arrow appears and sometime flashes on and off.  I've gotta be missing some
function or feature.


If you are not too bothered about warranty, any decent electronic
technician should be able to remove the LED.  If they are really good,
they would leave no trace of being there and you could say What LED?
if ever asked.

Or you could ask Pentax service to do it.

mike











RE: PESO:Clown Ron Dideldum

2005-09-24 Thread Rick Womer
Markus,

I don't know the SFXn very well, but I can tell you
the procedure for a PZ-1:

Set the exposure manually with the flash off (or down,
if using the built-in flash).  Turn the flash on/pop
it up, then set exposure compensation.  That adjusts
flash output without changing aperture or shutter
speed.

Your second method would also work.  Doing everything
manually slows me down too much.

Rick


--- Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rick
 thanks for looking and for the flash comment:
 
 So I would have to set EF on my SFXn to -1 stop for
 **TTL** flash
 **or**
 use computer auto flash settings with a higher ISO
 setting on the flash like
 ISO 200 with ISO 100 film
 **or**
 use manual flash settings on the AF400T and correct
 the aperture on the
 body.
 
 
 are these the right receipts to get only fill flash
 and not have the flash
 as the main light?
 
 greetings
 Markus
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Womer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 3:19 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO:Clown Ron Dideldum
 
 
 A rather dour clown, for sure!
 
 I like the composition, but think that the
 lighting
 would have been better with the flash dialed back
 a
 bit--at least a stop.
 
 Rick
 
 --- John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I'm back from a longer lurking mode with a
 light
  picture after all this
   serious tech stuff here...
   Somehow I needed some clownery ;-)
  
  
 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3748969size=lg
  (164KB)
  
  
 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3749041size=lg
  (177KB)
 
 
 
 


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Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis


Well done Dario!

Kostas



Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David Savage wrote:

 Wouldn't it  be more a matter of disconnecting the particular
 connection to the LCD in the viewfinder?

It's likely to be a surface mount item these days.

And the display will consist of a single unit LED device with all the
various symbols in it.
 
 
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Re: Siena mini-PDML

2005-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Juan Buhler wrote:


Here is Gianfranco cutting through a Fiorentina, a steak seemingly
made with the meat of several cows, and one of the best to be had
outside of Argentina:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/46053510/in/set-1006213/


Bisteca Fiorentina... There is an excellent restaurant behind the 
market called Mario's. Only serves lunch weekdays and you get to share 
large tables with strangers. The most enjoyable meal I can recall as a 
tourist. And I had several, on all days of my honeymoon there.


I digress: in front of the meat counter they have a sign which 
explains how they cannot cook Fiorentina any more than rare. I refuse 
to eat pink meat so I have never tried it, but it certainly is a part 
of my beloved Firenze.


Thanks for bringing back the memories.

Kostas



*ist D reliability and flash problems

2005-09-24 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi,

Some may remember that I had a major failure with my main D body
last August. Probably very few remember that I bought a backup
body last Spring that I had to send to repair almost immediately
because of its odd behaviour (black stripes on the images etc.)
A couple of days before leaving for Firenze my backup body lost
its af/mf switch. So now I'm unable to use it in manual focus
unless using a mf lens. I'm not sure, I should check, but
probably I had used this body only with af lenses or mf lenses
without flash till now (at least after the first repair),
because when I tried to use the built in flash with a mf lens
the flash fired at full power (a nice portrait of Juan almost
completely white...).
The D is supposed to work in plain TTL mode with manual lenses
too (and in fact the other D body never gave me a problem)... I
even tried a af lens setting the aperture manually and the
behaviour is the same, and so with the AF360FGZ...
My thoughts are: is the P-TTL controlled by the normal metering
(bypassing the flash TTL metering)? Is it possible that the
flash TTL sensor doesn't work at all (so it seems...)?
Thanks in advance for every possible hint.

Ciao,

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Re: control paradigms

2005-09-24 Thread Toralf Lund




Not entirely true, though. With the DS, I know from experience which  
way to move the control wheel to obtain smaller and larger apertures.  
I can crank it to the limit, then back off with a precise number of  
clicks to the setting I want because I know exactly how much each  
click nets me. It's really more the same than it's different.


I think I must ask: On the digital Pentaxes, is the wheel really just 
a switch that you can move one step to the left or right to get you the 
next lower or higher value, then have to release it and move it again 
for the next after than, like on (some of) the film bodies, or a true 
wheel where you can move several steps by turning in one direction?


- T



Re: Published

2005-09-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/24/2005 5:19:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember this picture in my ETH gallery?
http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter/eth11.jpg

This is what a magazine made of it (with my permission):
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/celtica.jpg

Dario 
==
Hey, hey! Totally cool!

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Goofy Flashing Flash Arrow in DS

2005-09-24 Thread John Forbes
I'm sure Shel will soon get used to it.  He's coming from a world that  
Oskar Barnack would have found familiar to the world of ultra-tech.  He'll  
adapt with a little time.


John



On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:39:10 +0100, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


David Savage wrote:


Wouldn't it  be more a matter of disconnecting the particular
connection to the LCD in the viewfinder?


It's likely to be a surface mount item these days.


And the display will consist of a single unit LED device with all the
various symbols in it.





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Re: Siena mini-PDML

2005-09-24 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:34:56 +0100, Kostas Kavoussanakis  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I refuse to eat pink meat so I have never tried it, but it certainly is  
a part of my beloved Firenze.



I like meat, so I refuse to eat it if it's NOT pink.

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RE: *ist-D raw files compressed: results

2005-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Perhaps a better way - certainly an alternative - is to convert them to DNG
format, which, at least with the DS, results in a file about half the size
of the original.

Shel 

 [Original Message]
 From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I wanted to know how a raw file would compress, specially since D
 files are quite big (bigger than DS as you probably know). I tried a
 couple formats. My point was to know how it would compress the best,
 not taking speed into account !!
 Of course size will vary with the software you use and with options
chosen.

 Original PEF filesize: 14.222 KB
 Zipped (maximum): 8.686 KB
 RAR v2.5 (maximum): 8034 KB
 ACE v2.6 (maximum): 8630 KB
 7-zip (LZMA algorithm, 32MB dictionary size, 128bytes word size): 7308KB


 Lastly, do not forget that compression formats not only do compress
 but also do usually incorporate CRC and other ways of retreiving your
 data if damage went to files.
 If your PEF files or damaged, you're screwed.

 So maybe it is a good idea to backup your PEF files somewhere compressed?




a camera I wish Pentax made...

2005-09-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Here's a fairly extensive preview of the GR Digital:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/review/ricoh/gr/ 
digital_camera_EN1.html


Godfrey



Re: control paradigms

2005-09-24 Thread Adam Maas

True Wheel.

-Adam


Toralf Lund wrote:





Not entirely true, though. With the DS, I know from experience which  
way to move the control wheel to obtain smaller and larger 
apertures.  I can crank it to the limit, then back off with a precise 
number of  clicks to the setting I want because I know exactly how 
much each  click nets me. It's really more the same than it's different.



I think I must ask: On the digital Pentaxes, is the wheel really 
just a switch that you can move one step to the left or right to get 
you the next lower or higher value, then have to release it and move 
it again for the next after than, like on (some of) the film bodies, 
or a true wheel where you can move several steps by turning in one 
direction?


- T





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