Re: Way OT - Brita Water Filters
On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Bob W wrote: The best water I ever tasted I drew from an old-fashioned well in a remote valley in northern Romania. Artesian beer? Why did you come back? - Dave
Re: Manual focus out of focus
Thanks for your comments. Since I'm not alone with this problem I think I need to call Pentax service :( This is the second common istD problem I encountered, a dead flash circuit board was the first one: Are there any more common problems I could check or get serviced? Toine On 4/19/06, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that many of my istD shots in manual focus are slightly out of focus. The area in focus is always in the background of the spot I focused on. Now I'm wondering if I need to blame my eyes, the +/- slider of the eyepiece, the mounting of the focusing screen, maybe the ccd alignment??? Toine
For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)
Hi everyone, Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ All of them where shot with an FA35/2, wideopen, istDS, processed to TIFF (16 bits) with Capture One (noise reduction default parameters). The non-neatimaged ones were converted to JPG with Infranview (max. quality), and the other by NeatImage itself (max. quality). No idea about the validity of this test, just a real world situation using my usual workflow (AKA you don't like it, run your own tests...) Here are the direct links to the large size images (available from the top link as well) ISO 1600 - No NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/50/132714644_d514f5cc9b_o.jpg ISO 1600 - Cleaned using NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/45/132714645_939a783758_o.jpg ISO 3200 - No NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/54/132714642_1fa11604a2_o.jpg ISO 3200 - cleaned with NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/48/132714643_ec7c409e13_o.jpg
Re: Manual focus out of focus
Now this is very interesting. I've been taking pictures of very small birds recently and many of them seem to be slightly out of focus. Once in a while there's a good one. In my case too the in-focus plane is always a bit behind the subject. The pictures have all been taken wide open (f4.0) at 1/1000s. I'll have to set up a test chart and see what's going on. Auto focus is impossible since the birds move around a lot and there is a very busy background. The lens (Sigma 70-300 Apo Macro) hunts like crazy when I try auto focus. The same problem seems to occur with the Sigma 400/5.6 APO MF lens. Don Toine wrote: Thanks for your comments. Since I'm not alone with this problem I think I need to call Pentax service :( This is the second common istD problem I encountered, a dead flash circuit board was the first one: Are there any more common problems I could check or get serviced? Toine On 4/19/06, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that many of my istD shots in manual focus are slightly out of focus. The area in focus is always in the background of the spot I focused on. Now I'm wondering if I need to blame my eyes, the +/- slider of the eyepiece, the mounting of the focusing screen, maybe the ccd alignment??? Toine -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)
I've posted this before, but here is a comparison between Neat Image, Noise Ninja CS2's Reduce Noise filter on a ISO 3200 shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Dave S. On 4/22/06, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ All of them where shot with an FA35/2, wideopen, istDS, processed to TIFF (16 bits) with Capture One (noise reduction default parameters). The non-neatimaged ones were converted to JPG with Infranview (max. quality), and the other by NeatImage itself (max. quality). No idea about the validity of this test, just a real world situation using my usual workflow (AKA you don't like it, run your own tests...) Here are the direct links to the large size images (available from the top link as well) ISO 1600 - No NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/50/132714644_d514f5cc9b_o.jpg ISO 1600 - Cleaned using NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/45/132714645_939a783758_o.jpg ISO 3200 - No NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/54/132714642_1fa11604a2_o.jpg ISO 3200 - cleaned with NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/48/132714643_ec7c409e13_o.jpg
Re: Manual focus out of focus
Don, That's interesting: I discovered this problem with my Sigma 500/7.2 APO MF. This lens is always out of focus. I see this problem also with my Novoflex 600 after checking missed shots. Toine On 4/22/06, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this is very interesting. I've been taking pictures of very small birds recently and many of them seem to be slightly out of focus. Once in a while there's a good one. In my case too the in-focus plane is always a bit behind the subject. The pictures have all been taken wide open (f4.0) at 1/1000s. I'll have to set up a test chart and see what's going on. Auto focus is impossible since the birds move around a lot and there is a very busy background. The lens (Sigma 70-300 Apo Macro) hunts like crazy when I try auto focus. The same problem seems to occur with the Sigma 400/5.6 APO MF lens. Don Toine wrote: Thanks for your comments. Since I'm not alone with this problem I think I need to call Pentax service :( This is the second common istD problem I encountered, a dead flash circuit board was the first one: Are there any more common problems I could check or get serviced? Toine On 4/19/06, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that many of my istD shots in manual focus are slightly out of focus. The area in focus is always in the background of the spot I focused on. Now I'm wondering if I need to blame my eyes, the +/- slider of the eyepiece, the mounting of the focusing screen, maybe the ccd alignment??? Toine -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
Re: DS vs DL
Bill Lawlor wrote: DS bodies have pretty much vanished from the marketplace. The DL is available. Can anyone share opinions/experience about the DL? One feature than scares me is Auto ISO. Can it be disabled? Thanks, Bill Lawlor Auto ISO is just another ISO selection. You can just select a fixed ISO or Auto ISO. In addition, if you are in Auto ISO, you can limit how high the ISO can go (400, 800, 1600, or 3200). I think it is a pretty convenient feature, especially in variable low light situations. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Mamiya is history
Technicaly, Mamiya sold the photo business to another company. Doesn't mean the productus will disapear? Not sure, would interesting ti know more about the deal. 2006/4/21, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apparently. I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go Pål -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Mamiya is history
On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:17 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Apparently. I'll bet Hasselblad is next to go Bummer. So which way to view the remaining contenders in the market. All poised to fail due to a generally weak market or more opportunity to prosper due to reduction of competition in the market? I've been digging into this since it hit the net yesterday. Mamiya is selling their camera division to Cosmos Scientific so they can concentrate on more profitable product lines. They make most of their money from pachinko machines, and also are a major manufacturer of carbon fiber products like golf club shafts and fishing rods. They also make industrial robots. The man who runs Cosmos Scientific is a former Mamiya staffer. His announced intention is to continue to produce at least some of the cameras. Whether he will license the Mamiya name for those cameras or use a new name has not yet been announced. Mamiya has promised a press release this weekend with full details. Bob
Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)
Hi! Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ Thanks Fernando. I should (honestly and brutally) say that I really like the original images better than those processed with NeatImage... Boris
Re: Fatherly question
I would first try out her interest by giving her one of my own camera's. One of the lesser used, but a good starter for children, would be the (already quite vintage) Canon AF35ML. They're cheap and very basic, yet powerful. I think it was one of the first real point-and-shoot camera's, introducing auto focus. Anyway, success! Groeten, Vic Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Ladies and Gents, the PESO by Fred reminded me of my rather crazy idea... I am thinking of giving my daughter a camera as a birthday present for her 5th birthday. Something simple, inexpensive yet capable of taking real pictures. Do you think a 5 y.o. kid would enjoy such a gift? Any personal experience to share? Boris
RE: about 4GB cards
Hi Igor ... When checking reviews of other brands of cards with lesser capacity, 512mb - 2gb, I found quite a number of reviews stating that the cards didn't work or work well in numerous non-camera devices. There were very few complaints about compatibility with cameras, although there were some. All the complaints cited a variety of card brands, from major players and well-known names, to lesser known brands. Does that mean that the technology is not well established, or does it just mean that not everyone is playing by the same rules or standards. Shel [Original Message] From: Igor Roshchin There was a recent thread about 4GB SD cards. I just saw reviews of people who used Adata Turbo 4GB cards and some of them had incompatibility problems with various (non-camera) devices. http://www.pricegrabber.com/rating_getprodrev.php/masterid=12217348/id_type= masterid This is an indication that the technology is not well established yet, and that early adopters can face compatibility problems with cards of various brands, and especially those that are off brands. I hope this would be useful to some people.
What's up with the list?
Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? Shel
Re: What's up with the list?
I noticed this as well. I had to resend a couple of messages within the past few days. Paul On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? Shel
Re: What's up with the list?
Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? More serious are the increasing number of messages that have nothing to do with Pentax or even with photography. The PDML is tending towards becoming just a DML, so to speak. But I digress... Fred
RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners
Thank you, but no thank you. ;-) Not at my beach. No way, not with my luck. Think my chances for getting the tools safely out of water would be less than 50%. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. april 2006 22:11 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners Wonderful. Maybe Tim can take note of the technique used to get closer to the curlew: Doxstater took off his socks and shoes and slowly waded into the marsh, making digital photos along the way using a 500mm lens and a 1.4x teleconverter. snip -- Cheers, Bob
Re: What's up with the list?
IMO that's what keeps things interesting. Dave S. On 4/22/06, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? More serious are the increasing number of messages that have nothing to do with Pentax or even with photography. The PDML is tending towards becoming just a DML, so to speak. But I digress... Fred
Re: What's up with the list?
fI would submit that OT messages are probably not a concern for most. And I doubt that the number of OT messages per year are increasing. The volume of non-Pentax posts rises and falls in respect to what's going on in the world of Pentax and in the world in general. The list has always been a place for both Pentax talk and general conversation. This has been debated many times over the past seven or eight years, and the conclusion is always the same. An open and uncensored list is what the majority prefers. Paul On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Fred wrote: Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? More serious are the increasing number of messages that have nothing to do with Pentax or even with photography. The PDML is tending towards becoming just a DML, so to speak. But I digress... Fred
Re: What's up with the list?
Hi Fred, I somewhat agree with you, and have myself contributed to some of the non-photography content of the list, such as my question about water filters. But, is that so bad. In some instances off-topic messages and discussions foster and reinforce a sense of community. I've always felt that the PDML has been more than just a brand-oriented mailing list. Learning about Cotty's home purchase and renovation, Bill's home remodeling, aspects of Frank's personal and family life, and things more closely related to this list and photography, such as memory cards, or internet service providers, all go towards making this a more well-rounded and all inclusive list. Some things that weren't about photography, or pentax, a few years ago, are now an integral part of photography, including Pentax photography. Can we make pictures with our digital cameras without memory cards? Since so many pics, and articles that are germane to Pentax specifically, and photography in general, are on the internet, is it not important, or at least valuable, to have a good, fast connection? In order to see some Pentax-made images such a connection is almost mandatory, such as when someone posts a huge 100% image so that we can see how well or poorly a piece of gear fares in this digital age. I'm sure we all have our pet peeves and preferences about what ~should~ be on the list - for example, I hate those asinine pun threads that in effect destroy a good discussion about some subject or another. However, overall, I think the list is the better for such things. Shel [Original Message] From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? More serious are the increasing number of messages that have nothing to do with Pentax or even with photography. The PDML is tending towards becoming just a DML, so to speak. But I digress...
RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't Tim, but over the years it seems that those photographers that go the extra distance, take more time, move in places that are hard to access, come away with better and stronger photos. Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Thank you, but no thank you. ;-) Not at my beach. No way, not with my luck. Think my chances for getting the tools safely out of water would be less than 50%. From: Bob W Maybe Tim can take note of the technique used to get closer to the curlew: Doxstater took off his socks and shoes and slowly waded into the marsh, making digital photos along the way using a 500mm lens and a 1.4x teleconverter.
FS - a day late - SMC F 35-70mm f3.5-4.5 Macro
Offered to the list before it hits eBay. Used Pentax SMC - F 35-70mm f3.5-4.5 macro zoom lens. Well used but fully functional. Elements clear, no marks. Small amount of dust, par for the course. Genuine front cap, generic rear, 'Regent' skylight 1B filter included. No box though lens will be well packaged. Based UK but will send worldwide. Asking 20 GBP plus postage. Can only do Paypal if you have a bank account registered, as I only register a credit card which means I can't accept payments from someone else with just a credit card registered with Paypal. Otherwise US dollars, bank transfer, UK money orders (no international money orders, no Western Union). Link to relevant page on Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/medium/F35-70f3.5-4.5.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What's up with the list?
On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I would submit that OT messages are probably not a concern for most. And I doubt that the number of OT messages per year are increasing. The volume of non-Pentax posts rises and falls in respect to what's going on in the world of Pentax and in the world in general. The list has always been a place for both Pentax talk and general conversation. This has been debated many times over the past seven or eight years, and the conclusion is always the same. An open and uncensored list is what the majority prefers. Paul Besides, if you don't like OT messages you can set up your e-mail program to send any message with OT or Off Topic in the subject line to your junk box. Then you'll never even know they existed. There are some people on some lists (none here!) who are just so annoying that I set up my e-mail program to dump their posts to the junk box. I only know when they post if someone responds. Bob
Re: What's up with the list?
On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: for example, I hate those asinine pun threads Gee, there are such things here? I must have missed them. Bob
Re: What's up with the list?
On 4/22/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: for example, I hate those asinine pun threads Gee, there are such things here? I must have missed them. Most of them go right over my head. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
FS FRI
I never did see this on the list, only the archives. Here's another try: MZ-S w/BG10 Grip. Absolutely new condition in every respect. Has shot 29 rolls of film. W/body cap, carrying strap and manuals: $775 OBO Free shipping and w/insurance. US only. Sorry, no Paypal. Suggest contact off-list. Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: What's up with the list?
Doug has a headache? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? Shel
RE: FS FRI
In the FWIW Dep't. saw the original message. Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis I never did see this on the list, only the archives. Here's another try: MZ-S w/BG10 Grip. Absolutely new condition in every respect. Has shot 29 rolls of film. W/body cap, carrying strap and manuals: $775 OBO Free shipping and w/insurance. US only. Sorry, no Paypal. Suggest contact off-list. Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: What's up with the list?
As has been so, and it is what makes it a long term list. Without that openness they old timers who answer the newbies' questions would go else where. Then since they could not get answers the newbies would go elsewhere. Then the list would be dead, dead, dead. http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Why is it that this latest version of Thunderbird only allows you to paste as a quotation? I guess a bug report is due. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Fred wrote: Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? More serious are the increasing number of messages that have nothing to do with Pentax or even with photography. The PDML is tending towards becoming just a DML, so to speak. But I digress... Fred
Re: Mamiya is history
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] So which way to view the remaining contenders in the market. All poised to fail due to a generally weak market or more opportunity to prosper due to reduction of competition in the market? Neither. The failure of the Mamiya was due to price and the fact that it was hardly available before it was dropped. The lens line-up wasn't extensive either. Mamiyas brand recognition in a high-tech environment is zero and significantly worse than Pentax. A camera like this need to sell in much larger qualitities than digital backs for old cameras as it is more expensive to deveolp. It really is just a matter of price. Wereas Mamiya was totally dependend on making money on such a cameras as it it was thebuilding block of their whole image division (the film MF gear doesn't sell any longer), Pentax is not. The Pentax have potential to be cheaper due to the Kodak sensor and the fact that the 645D is built on a an older body. In addition, a 645D could work as a loss leader for Pentax as they aren't dependent on the MF line-up. I think the Pentax 645D has a big market potential (depending on price). Pål
Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Just need a few thoughts on this. Would it be better to upgrade to CS2(cost about $450 or so to upgrade my PSEL3) or get a single dedicated Raw program like Raw shooter or Capture one. El3 and CS can open every raw file i need, except the new D200. I can get the plug in for EL3 but not for CS. Therefore if i want the plug in and stay current with technology, i need to spend $$ on the CS2 upgrade. Are there people out there that stay current with PS only or do you have a raw program that you keep current.Do the dedicated programs stay current with updates or are they slow at getting to the new cameras. I don't see my self buying another Dslr, Pentax or Nikon in the near future, unless the D2H goes south on my again, then it will be traded in for a 20 D and lens, i suppose.:-) Any thoughts one way or another. I have about 20 days left on the CS2 trial. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H D200
Re: Mamiya is history
Paul wrote: Glass half full interpretation: Now there is only Hasselblad to compete against in the MF digital niche. A smaller company can survive quite happily with a small percentage of the overall market. Look at Apple who have had 3-5% of the PC market for years. Even pre iPod (but post iMac) they were doing quite well with this small fraction. Pentax have always been a think different kind of company and probably just need one cult camera to survive. ...but 3-5% of the PC market is still huge and will benefit from volume production. The market share digital backs enjoyed by Hasselblad is miniscule and will probably collapse completely the moment sensor prices drops to acceptable levels. Just like $15000 PC's once had a market. When large sensors becomes a volume item, only volume makers can sell them. We will se gradually larger sensors in DSLR's. Just like a full frame sensors now are into the reach of the amateur with the Canon 5D, MF sized sensor will be into the reach of the amateur tomorrow is my prediction. Pål
Re: What's up with the list?
FWIW, its been doing it at my end for several weeks. I though Dog was cutting me off, but he says no.:-) Dave Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some messages don't appear on the list to some or most members, yet appear in the archives. Some messages do appear on the list, but don't show up in the archives. Some messages just disappear completely. Why is this and can anything be done to correct the situation? Shel Equine Photography in York Region
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
How do you like using CS2? I'd recommend upgrading to CS2. Personally I like to keep the number of programs needed to process my images to a minimum. If dollars are tight many people speak highly of RAW Shooter. Dave S On 4/22/06, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just need a few thoughts on this. Would it be better to upgrade to CS2(cost about $450 or so to upgrade my PSEL3) or get a single dedicated Raw program like Raw shooter or Capture one. El3 and CS can open every raw file i need, except the new D200. I can get the plug in for EL3 but not for CS. Therefore if i want the plug in and stay current with technology, i need to spend $$ on the CS2 upgrade. Are there people out there that stay current with PS only or do you have a raw program that you keep current.Do the dedicated programs stay current with updates or are they slow at getting to the new cameras. I don't see my self buying another Dslr, Pentax or Nikon in the near future, unless the D2H goes south on my again, then it will be traded in for a 20 D and lens, i suppose.:-) Any thoughts one way or another. I have about 20 days left on the CS2 trial. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H D200
RE: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Dave, You can download the latest iteration of Adobes DNG converter, and skip the CS2 or Elements upgrade. The DNG converter is free, and will allow you to use the D200 Raw files. Frankly, I'm thrilled with the results from Photoshop, both CS and even ore so with CS2. If you can afford it comfortably, get the CS2 upgrade. ACR 3.3 is just super, IMO. Plus, the idea of keeping everything integrated makes for a smoother and quicker work flow. If you have a legal copy of any earlier version of Photoshop, you can upgrade to CS2 for about $169.00US $450.00 sounds a bit steep. How did you arrive at that figure? Shel [Original Message] From: Dave Brooks Just need a few thoughts on this. Would it be better to upgrade to CS2(cost about $450 or so to upgrade my PSEL3) or get a single dedicated Raw program like Raw shooter or Capture one. El3 and CS can open every raw file i need, except the new D200. I can get the plug in for EL3 but not for CS. Therefore if i want the plug in and stay current with technology, i need to spend $$ on the CS2 upgrade. Are there people out there that stay current with PS only or do you have a raw program that you keep current.Do the dedicated programs stay current with updates or are they slow at getting to the new cameras. I don't see my self buying another Dslr, Pentax or Nikon in the near future, unless the D2H goes south on my again, then it will be traded in for a 20 D and lens, i suppose.:-) Any thoughts one way or another. I have about 20 days left on the CS2 trial.
PESO: John MacEnroe?
http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=232133 Mainly entered because I'm testing the gallery at foto.no, really - since my own web pages are apparently not available at the moment... - T
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Hi Dave, I'm not Dave, but I'll jump in anyway and say that CS2 is really a darned good program. Bering able to use ACR3.3 is, IMO, a big step up from ACR2.4, which is the last version that can be used in CS. The Spot healing Brush is great - I love it - it makes working on those old TX negs a lot easier. Some of the new filters are nice - like the lens correction filter. Overall, the pluses of the program greatly outweigh the minuses - and Bridge is a welcome upgrade to the file browser. Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage How do you like using CS2? I'd recommend upgrading to CS2. Personally I like to keep the number of programs needed to process my images to a minimum.
Re: Mamiya is history
Pål Jensen wrote: Paul wrote: Glass half full interpretation: Now there is only Hasselblad to compete against in the MF digital niche. A smaller company can survive quite happily with a small percentage of the overall market. Look at Apple who have had 3-5% of the PC market for years. Even pre iPod (but post iMac) they were doing quite well with this small fraction. Pentax have always been a think different kind of company and probably just need one cult camera to survive. ...but 3-5% of the PC market is still huge and will benefit from volume production. The market share digital backs enjoyed by Hasselblad is miniscule and will probably collapse completely the moment sensor prices drops Wow, you're really obsessed with Hassie dying. I absolutely hate to say it, but Pentax seems more at risk- they're being chased into lower and lower margins by the market leader (makes for great ist Dx prices though) and they don't have any MF cameras that are used commercially. Except for a few artists, commercial MF is digital. Period. No one is going to migrate back to the once-great, but I got burned on the digital transition 645 and 67 lines. Sensor prices aren't going to plummet like Moore's law- die sizes have stayed the same now for a long time. Smaller transistors don't make bigger or better sensors. Sure, they'll get 2x as cheap, 3x, but not magnitude after magnitude... and besides, this helps those who decouple the back from the camera more anyway. -Ryan -Ryan And why
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
I agree. Bridge ACR 3.3 is an excellent improvement over PSCS. I've been working on and off for the last few of months on scanning retoucing some very old dirty slides. I love the healing brush :-) Dave S On 4/22/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, I'm not Dave, but I'll jump in anyway and say that CS2 is really a darned good program. Bering able to use ACR3.3 is, IMO, a big step up from ACR2.4, which is the last version that can be used in CS. The Spot healing Brush is great - I love it - it makes working on those old TX negs a lot easier. Some of the new filters are nice - like the lens correction filter. Overall, the pluses of the program greatly outweigh the minuses - and Bridge is a welcome upgrade to the file browser. Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage How do you like using CS2? I'd recommend upgrading to CS2. Personally I like to keep the number of programs needed to process my images to a minimum.
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
I much prefer to develop skills with one high quality solution that scales to do all the work rather than having to work through and learn the ins and outs of coordinating several different applications. Photoshop CS2's automation, browsing and sorting, batch facilities, scripting and RGB editing are well worth the upgrade price. Even ignoring the advantages in using Bridge/Camera Raw 3.3 over the CS' File Browser and Camera Raw 2.4, the Smart Sharpening filter in Photoshop CS2 is worth the upgrade price all by itself. Godfrey On Apr 22, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Dave Brooks wrote: Just need a few thoughts on this. Would it be better to upgrade to CS2(cost about $450 or so to upgrade my PSEL3) or get a single dedicated Raw program like Raw shooter or Capture one. El3 and CS can open every raw file i need, except the new D200. I can get the plug in for EL3 but not for CS. Therefore if i want the plug in and stay current with technology, i need to spend $$ on the CS2 upgrade. Are there people out there that stay current with PS only or do you have a raw program that you keep current.Do the dedicated programs stay current with updates or are they slow at getting to the new cameras. I don't see my self buying another Dslr, Pentax or Nikon in the near future, unless the D2H goes south on my again, then it will be traded in for a 20 D and lens, i suppose.:-) Any thoughts one way or another. I have about 20 days left on the CS2 trial.
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Personally, I consider CS2 to be the first Photoshop upgrade since 6.0 to be worth the cost. I do not see how a professional or semi-professional photographer could get along without it. Download the trial version and check it out. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Dave Brooks wrote: Just need a few thoughts on this. Would it be better to upgrade to CS2(cost about $450 or so to upgrade my PSEL3) or get a single dedicated Raw program like Raw shooter or Capture one. El3 and CS can open every raw file i need, except the new D200. I can get the plug in for EL3 but not for CS. Therefore if i want the plug in and stay current with technology, i need to spend $$ on the CS2 upgrade. Are there people out there that stay current with PS only or do you have a raw program that you keep current.Do the dedicated programs stay current with updates or are they slow at getting to the new cameras. I don't see my self buying another Dslr, Pentax or Nikon in the near future, unless the D2H goes south on my again, then it will be traded in for a 20 D and lens, i suppose.:-) Any thoughts one way or another. I have about 20 days left on the CS2 trial. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H D200
RE: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave, You can download the latest iteration of Adobes DNG converter, and skip the CS2 or Elements upgrade. The DNG converter is free, and will allow you to use the D200 Raw files. Did not know that. Frankly, I'm thrilled with the results from Photoshop, both CS and even ore so with CS2. If you can afford it comfortably, get the CS2 upgrade. ACR 3.3 is just super, IMO. Plus, the idea of keeping everything integrated makes for a smoother and quicker work flow. If you have a legal copy of any earlier version of Photoshop, you can upgrade to CS2 for about $169.00US $450.00 sounds a bit steep. How did you arrive at that figure? From the Adobe store when i looked for upgrading info.Its quite a bit more to upgrade from Elements. Dave Shel [Original Message] From: Dave Brooks Just need a few thoughts on this. Would it be better to upgrade to CS2(cost about $450 or so to upgrade my PSEL3) or get a single dedicated Raw program like Raw shooter or Capture one. El3 and CS can open every raw file i need, except the new D200. I can get the plug in for EL3 but not for CS. Therefore if i want the plug in and stay current with technology, i need to spend $$ on the CS2 upgrade. Are there people out there that stay current with PS only or do you have a raw program that you keep current.Do the dedicated programs stay current with updates or are they slow at getting to the new cameras. I don't see my self buying another Dslr, Pentax or Nikon in the near future, unless the D2H goes south on my again, then it will be traded in for a 20 D and lens, i suppose.:-) Any thoughts one way or another. I have about 20 days left on the CS2 trial. Equine Photography in York Region
Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)
Dave, that's much better than mine... On 4/22/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted this before, but here is a comparison between Neat Image, Noise Ninja CS2's Reduce Noise filter on a ISO 3200 shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Dave S. On 4/22/06, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ All of them where shot with an FA35/2, wideopen, istDS, processed to TIFF (16 bits) with Capture One (noise reduction default parameters). The non-neatimaged ones were converted to JPG with Infranview (max. quality), and the other by NeatImage itself (max. quality). No idea about the validity of this test, just a real world situation using my usual workflow (AKA you don't like it, run your own tests...) Here are the direct links to the large size images (available from the top link as well) ISO 1600 - No NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/50/132714644_d514f5cc9b_o.jpg ISO 1600 - Cleaned using NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/45/132714645_939a783758_o.jpg ISO 3200 - No NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/54/132714642_1fa11604a2_o.jpg ISO 3200 - cleaned with NeatImage http://static.flickr.com/48/132714643_ec7c409e13_o.jpg
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
I've not yet sorted out Smart Sharpening, but it looks to be a nice option when regular USM and it's various techniques may not do the trick. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Even ignoring the advantages in using Bridge/Camera Raw 3.3 over the CS' File Browser and Camera Raw 2.4, the Smart Sharpening filter in Photoshop CS2 is worth the upgrade price all by itself.
Re: For Boris (WAS: Question for the low light shooters)
Really? have you compare them at 100%? it's a matter of taste I guess... On 4/22/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Last week Boris asked me to see examples of some high ISO images with and without being noise cleaned by NeatImage. I've been busy, my apologies for the delay, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594113578363/ Thanks Fernando. I should (honestly and brutally) say that I really like the original images better than those processed with NeatImage... Boris
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
graywolf wrote: Personally, I consider CS2 to be the first Photoshop upgrade since 6.0 to be worth the cost. I do not see how a professional or semi-professional photographer could get along without it. Download the trial version and check it out. LOL Had you read Dave's post in it's entirety, you'd have seen he's got 20 days left on the trial version.
RE: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Ahh, I didn't know that you didn't have an earlier, legal version of Photoshop. If you can find a used legal copy of an earlier version, you might be able to save quite a few $$$. Shel [Original Message] From: Dave Brooks From the Adobe store when i looked for upgrading info. Its quite a bit more to upgrade from Elements.
Re: Mamiya is history
- Original Message - From: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, you're really obsessed with Hassie dying. I absolutely hate to say it, but Pentax seems more at risk- they're being chased into lower and lower margins by the market leader (makes for great ist Dx prices though) and they don't have any MF cameras that are used commercially. Nobody has MF cameras that are used commercially. Pentax had commercial share of their MF line of 50% wich is far more than Hasselbad with their 20%. Their main customers are the rich dentist fraternity who also bought Leicas. Except for a few artists, commercial MF is digital. Period. MF is no particular case: commercial photography nowadays is digital. Most commercial photographers are struggling or trying to do business. They cannot afford $3 digital solution. It is not that they don't want MF based digital solutions. No one is going to migrate back to the once-great, but I got burned on the digital transition 645 and 67 lines. Why not? Sensor prices aren't going to plummet like Moore's law- die sizes have stayed the same now for a long time. Sensor prices has dropped significantly the last few years. It will continue Pål
PAW 2006 - 05 - GDG
Another view of the Santa Cruz wharf ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/05.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey
Re: PESO: John MacEnroe?
Ha :-) As soon as I saw it I could here McEnroe screaming You can't be serious, you jerk I like the shot but I think it needs more contrast to make he racket stand out from the background. Dave S On 4/22/06, Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=232133 Mainly entered because I'm testing the gallery at foto.no, really - since my own web pages are apparently not available at the moment... - T
Re: PAW 2006 - 04 - GDG
Thanks, Unca Mikey! Godfrey On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Unca Mikey wrote: First, I like the photo, it's quite appealing, esp in the larger image. I am impressed one can read the NO DOGS sign. Second, this is one of the most entertaining discussions of a photo I've read on PDML in a long time. Discussions of a half degree this way or that way made me larf -- when I decided a few years ago to start playing with photography again, the biggest problem I had was getting the darn snaps straight! And to this day I get so tickled when a shot is lined up just the way I want it. *UncaMikey On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: From last Sunday morning's visit to the Santa Cruz wharf: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/04.htm
Re: about 4GB cards
It means simply that a lot of companies don't product that conform to specs well, and don't test their products thoroughly enough... Godfrey On Apr 22, 2006, at 5:23 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Does that mean that the technology is not well established, or does it just mean that not everyone is playing by the same rules or standards.
Re: Mamiya is history
Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, you're really obsessed with Hassie dying. I absolutely hate to say it, but Pentax seems more at risk- they're being chased into lower and lower margins by the market leader (makes for great ist Dx prices though) and they don't have any MF cameras that are used commercially. Nobody has MF cameras that are used commercially. Har! Phase One, Leaf, Hass/Fuji, etc. must all be imaginary then. Except for a few artists, commercial MF is digital. Period. No one is going to migrate back to the once-great, but I got burned on the digital transition 645 and 67 lines. Why not? Okay. Assume you're making a living with commercial photography. That means you had to buy a camera that could output digital for your clients. If it's MF shooting, then you had to sell your Pentax 645 or 67 to buy something that would take a digital back. Now you're supposed to sell that to come back to a brand that abandoned the commercial market? Yeah, right. Not to mention, you can't take your back with you! And that means you can't take advantage of dropping sensor prices and improving technology as much as your neighbor with a backless, digital friendly MF camera can. Or if they migrated to Canon or Nikon FF or APSc, then there's not going to buy Pentax 645 stuff again. Sensor prices aren't going to plummet like Moore's law- die sizes have stayed the same now for a long time. Sensor prices has dropped significantly the last few years. It will continue But not like PCs, where things are magnitudes cheaper every year. -R
Re: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
... or a friendly student who can purchase you a copy at educational discount. Godfrey On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:00 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Ahh, I didn't know that you didn't have an earlier, legal version of Photoshop. If you can find a used legal copy of an earlier version, you might be able to save quite a few $$$. Shel [Original Message] From: Dave Brooks From the Adobe store when i looked for upgrading info. Its quite a bit more to upgrade from Elements.
RE: Advice. Upgrade to CS2 or get dedicated Raw program
Yup. When i bought the D1 and computers from the photographer, he left on the computer his copy of PS 6 and a back up CD. Elements i bought to use Raw on the PC. I have a Loaner Copy of CS,but i would like a proper copy of CS2. My delemia now is, do i get a PC version or Mac version. I find i am using the Mac to do things more than the PC but, i have not used it to go from raw to final print out at home using external monitor and my S800 printer. I suppose i should load up the driver and runa print via extenal monitor.GFM is fast aproaching and i do tend to wait until the last moment to do a lot of stuff.vbg Dave Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ahh, I didn't know that you didn't have an earlier, legal version of Photoshop. If you can find a used legal copy of an earlier version, you might be able to save quite a few $$$. Shel [Original Message] From: Dave Brooks From the Adobe store when i looked for upgrading info. Its quite a bit more to upgrade from Elements. Equine Photography in York Region
Re: ist D - PE4 questions
On Apr 21, 2006, at 9:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a screen capture of your page with Safari, however. It's rendered in sRGB: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rs-test-image-icc.jpg Both the two profiled images are darn close, the unprofiled sRGB deviates just a little from a correct rendering. Yes, the tomato at the bottom right isn't quite as saturated. Screen dump of IE render under W2k 4/2005: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/ICC_Test_dump.jpg Screen dump of Firefox render under W2k today: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/ICC-test-screen-dump.jpg And a screen dump of the page as viewed in Firefox with the two sRGB samples as viewed in a colour managed application below: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/colourspaces.jpg My screen cal is close enough to sRGB standard that I still get away with a decent rendering of web images rendered with sRGB intent in either browser. Thanks for the additional samples. It is always interesting to me to see how the various browsers render our work. I updated my JPEG to include current FireFox on Mac OS X rendering too ... FireFox does not honor profiles, they use their own rendering library rather than the Mac OS X system libraries. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rs-test-image-icc.jpg It's all in the details ... Godfrey
Re: PESO: Curlew
Good job on the exposure, With the relections in the water, thats hard to do sometimes. Looks sharp enough on the laptop screen' Dave Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While I'm at it, Curlew: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=231830 *istDS, Tokina AT-X 150-500/5,6 at 500mm. f:16, 1/200, 800 ISO raw, tripod. A bit soft. Can't decide if I like the reflections of the water or not. Should I lower them? They add a bit of dymanic feeling, but they also attract a bit of attention away from the bird. Whatdoyoahthink? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) Equine Photography in York Region
Re: PAW 2006 - 05 - GDG
I like it. Makes me squint and want my sunglasses :-) Dave S On 4/23/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another view of the Santa Cruz wharf ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/05.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
Peter Jordan wrote: Jessops (not normally my favourite store) are offering istDL2 (which isn't officially launched in the UK IIRC) plus 18-35 and 50 - 250 for GBP 540 on their website. However, if you go into a store, it is currently going for GBP 499 which strikes me as a bargain (by UK standards at least). I'm going for it. They only had the display model in stock today, but are getting more in my local store tomorrow. Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11.
Re: Mamiya is history
- Original Message - From: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay. Assume you're making a living with commercial photography. That means you had to buy a camera that could output digital for your clients. If it's MF shooting, then you had to sell your Pentax 645 or 67 to buy something that would take a digital back. Now you're supposed to sell that to come back to a brand that abandoned the commercial market? Yeah, right. Not to mention, you can't take your back with you! And that means you can't take advantage of dropping sensor prices and improving technology as much as your neighbor with a backless, digital friendly MF camera can. You forget that the digital back cost 2-3 times the price of a digital camera. And that you are stuck with that same old camera. You also forget that hardly anyone in the grand scheme of things are using digital backs anyway. Digital backs aren't exactly hot selling items. The digital MF market is wide open. In my opinion, discussing digital MF backs impact for digital photography is like discussing 8X10 camera impact for film photography. Both are highly specialized items for the very few. Digital backs will not either experience the same potential sensor price drops because the potential for sales volume is extremely limited. Making accessories for cameras not longer selling due to their unpopularity can never compete with a dedicated modern dSLR. Just like that digital back for the Leica R8 is no match for Nikon or Canon (or Pentax for that matter). Or if they migrated to Canon or Nikon FF or APSc, then there's not going to buy Pentax 645 stuff again. Why not? The wast majority of those buying the pentax 645 came from higher end Nikon and Canons. They did it to get better image quality. People do switch camera systems and Pentax isn't exclusively something you switch from. If a Pentax dsLR can deliver a sensor twice the size of a canon and with much better dynamic range, why shouldn't it be viable if the price is right? of course, if the price isn't right it doesn't stand a chance, just like the Mamiya ZD. Pål
Can I use manual lenses on Digital DS2
I am anticipating purchasing a Pentax Digital DS2 body. Can I use my manual Pentax lenses I have collected over the last 35 years on the DS2 body, Some lenses are A-lenses, some are just SMC non A-lenses. Can I focus these lens manually and observe through the viewfinder that the lens is focused but even though I manually focus still get electronic signal (light or beep ) that the lens is focused? Can I use all light metering functions ( matrix, center weighted, spot ) with the A-lenses and some metering functions with the non A-lenses. I am a new poster here. Thanks in advance Denny B
Re: What's up with the list?
On 22/4/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: I though Dog was cutting me off, but he says no.:-) LOL Dave your Freudian slips are the best. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Can I use manual lenses on Digital DS2
Yes to all your questions ... I'm using everything from screw mounts to FA lenses on the DS. Same deal with the DS2. Welcome to the PDML - stick around, ask questions, learn, and share your pics and experiences. Shel [Original Message] From: Denny B I am anticipating purchasing a Pentax Digital DS2 body. Can I use my manual Pentax lenses I have collected over the last 35 years on the DS2 body, Some lenses are A-lenses, some are just SMC non A-lenses. Can I focus these lens manually and observe through the viewfinder that the lens is focused but even though I manually focus still get electronic signal (light or beep ) that the lens is focused? Can I use all light metering functions ( matrix, center weighted, spot ) with the A-lenses and some metering functions with the non A-lenses. I am a new poster here. Thanks in advance Denny B
Re: Can I use manual lenses on Digital DS2
Welcome On the D cameras, you can use A, K, M and M42 lenses with some limitations. I have the beep turned on my istD to help with manual focus. On my camera metering is accessed via a gree button. On the later ones i believe its is through the AE-L button. IMSMC it defaults to Center weight metering when not in A. Dave Brooks Quoting Denny B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am anticipating purchasing a Pentax Digital DS2 body. Can I use my manual Pentax lenses I have collected over the last 35 years on the DS2 body, Some lenses are A-lenses, some are just SMC non A-lenses. Can I focus these lens manually and observe through the viewfinder that the lens is focused but even though I manually focus still get electronic signal (light or beep ) that the lens is focused? Can I use all light metering functions ( matrix, center weighted, spot ) with the A-lenses and some metering functions with the non A-lenses. I am a new poster here. Thanks in advance Denny B Equine Photography in York Region
Re: about 4GB cards
Exactly. And for the new product, when the pressure is to put the product on the market by a certain deadline, no matter what, the probability of insufficient testing increases. Igor Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:36:16 -0700 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It means simply that a lot of companies don't product that conform to specs well, and don't test their products thoroughly enough... Godfrey On Apr 22, 2006, at 5:23 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Does that mean that the technology is not well established, or does it just mean that not everyone is playing by the same rules or standards.
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
Hi Mike, Wasn't it you not too long ago who said that he'd never go digital? Anyway, have fun ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11.
Re: PAW - Lake Tekapo at Dusk
Interesting colour. I like it. Dave Quoting David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I posted a slightly cropped wildlife photo the other day: http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/swans.html Well, I just added the full-frame version to my online database, and I figured I might as well make it a PAW. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=387t=1 The swans are the black dot at the far right :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/ http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Equine Photography in York Region
Re: PESO: Another Pano
interseting shot. I would like it better if the shadow was not there. D Quoting Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear all, I'm decidedly in Panos for now. Here's another one from the Cassis little harbor town in France riviera (some of you will remember the lighthouse). http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/pano/pano-screen.jpg.html Not very original, and I'm a bit disappointed that the harbor area contains so many elements that impact the readability of the image. Maybe it's not the best place in the world to make a 360° pano after all. I'm not sure if my own shadow is a problem or not. *ist DS + Sigma 18-125 @ 18mm, 1/1000s, f/8 26 vertical images (2x13) stitched with Hugin/Enblend and a bit of post-process in CS2. With this amount of pixels, I could crank out a 2m by 60cm 220 dpi print, but I'm not sure anyone would be willing to pay for it! Best regards Patrice Equine Photography in York Region
Re: FS - a day late - SMC F 35-70mm f3.5-4.5 Macro
This lens is now sold. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - You won't believe me
I like how the mask's seem to be invo;ved in the conversation. The foreground cups are blown out and are just a bit of a distraction for me, but for the most part a good shot. D Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=13178 Be brutal and honest, as usual. Boris Equine Photography in York Region
Re: What's up with the list?
The gout medication effects my bain. Dave btw i hate gout. Dave Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 22/4/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: I though Dog was cutting me off, but he says no.:-) LOL Dave your Freudian slips are the best. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ Equine Photography in York Region
Pixel noise identifies digital cameras
This is interesting. From the article linked below: Every original digital picture is overlaid by a weak noise-like pattern of pixel-to-pixel non-uniformity. Although these patterns are invisible to the human eye, the unique reference pattern or fingerprint of any camera can be electronically extracted by analyzing a number of images taken by a single camera. Fridrich's lab analyzed 2,700 pictures taken by nine digital cameras and with 100 percent accuracy linked individual images with the camera that took them. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/bu-bur041806.php j -- Juan Buhler Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
Re: PAW 2006 - 05 - GDG
I like how the water sparles seem to lead you to the boat and then background. Nice contrast and comp Dave Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another view of the Santa Cruz wharf ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/05.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey Equine Photography in York Region
Re: Can I use manual lenses on Digital DS2
On Apr 22, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Denny B wrote: I am anticipating purchasing a Pentax Digital DS2 body. Can I use my manual Pentax lenses I have collected over the last 35 years on the DS2 body, Some lenses are A-lenses, some are just SMC non A-lenses. Can I focus these lens manually and observe through the viewfinder that the lens is focused but even though I manually focus still get electronic signal (light or beep ) that the lens is focused? Yes. It's generally best to ignore the focus confirmation when working with fast lenses, however. Can I use all light metering functions ( matrix, center weighted, spot ) with the A-lenses and some metering functions with the non A- lenses. A lenses obtain all metering functions, both ambient and flash. Pre-A lenses get spot and centerweighted, work fully in Manual or B exposure mode. (They also work in Av but only wide open, and all other exposure modes default to Av.) Instructions for using pre-A lenses: --- M/K-Bayonet lenses without an A position on the aperture ring can only be used in Manual exposure mode, effectively. They'll also work in Av mode but only at wide-open aperture. To use them: 0: set the custom function for Using Aperture Ring to permitted. Do this once and leave it that way. 1: Set camera to Manual exposure 2: Frame and focus on subject 3: Set desired aperture on the lens 4: half press shutter release to activate the meter. 5: frame subject, press AE-Lock button to take a meter reading (lens will stop down briefly and the correct shutter speed will be set) You're ready to take a picture. The built-in flash with pre-A lenses operates unmetered at full output; Pentax-dedicated external flashes will support TTL metering on the DS/DS2. There's a table in the instruction manual with guide numbers to allow you to set the aperture per distance. Godfrey
Re: Pixel noise identifies digital cameras
Very interesting. Film might be the best solution for nefarious types :-) Thanks for posting it. Dave S On 4/23/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is interesting. From the article linked below: Every original digital picture is overlaid by a weak noise-like pattern of pixel-to-pixel non-uniformity. Although these patterns are invisible to the human eye, the unique reference pattern or fingerprint of any camera can be electronically extracted by analyzing a number of images taken by a single camera. Fridrich's lab analyzed 2,700 pictures taken by nine digital cameras and with 100 percent accuracy linked individual images with the camera that took them. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/bu-bur041806.php j -- Juan Buhler Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
Re: Mamiya is history
tweet the corporation? Indeed, let's tweet the corporations. Tweet software too. Cheers, Gautam -- No, it's o tweet the corporation. Sing it to the tune of Oh say can you see Joe
RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners
can't say I blame you. Having waded into the saltmarsh here at low tide a few years ago, I would not do it again. On that occasion I had (I think) a Leica M3 and 2 lenses with me. I sank up to my nuts in mud and had great difficulty extracting myself. Fortunately no harm came to the cameras or to my nuts, and the tide had the good sense not to come in. Bob -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, but no thank you. ;-) Not at my beach. No way, not with my luck. Think my chances for getting the tools safely out of water would be less than 50%. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. april 2006 22:11 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners Wonderful. Maybe Tim can take note of the technique used to get closer to the curlew: Doxstater took off his socks and shoes and slowly waded into the marsh, making digital photos along the way using a 500mm lens and a 1.4x teleconverter. snip -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Mamiya is history
If a Pentax dsLR can deliver a sensor twice the size of a canon and with much better dynamic range, why shouldn't it be viable if the price is right? Pål -- I hope you are correct. But I keep worrying that it is a Kodak sensor that Pentax will be using. Joe
RE: ist DL2 offer in UK
I saw that offer too a few days ago, in CameraWorld, I think, and was very surprised that they're so cheap. I'm almost tempted by it myself. What are the lenses like? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 April 2006 17:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: ist DL2 offer in UK Peter Jordan wrote: Jessops (not normally my favourite store) are offering istDL2 (which isn't officially launched in the UK IIRC) plus 18-35 and 50 - 250 for GBP 540 on their website. However, if you go into a store, it is currently going for GBP 499 which strikes me as a bargain (by UK standards at least). I'm going for it. They only had the display model in stock today, but are getting more in my local store tomorrow. Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11.
Re: Pentax 645D (WAS: Mamiya is history)
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope you are correct. But I keep worrying that it is a Kodak sensor that Pentax will be using. It is supposed to use a Kodak sensor. Officially it is still 18Mp but some speculate it is really 22mp. Is there anything wrong with the Kodak sensor?
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Mike, Wasn't it you not too long ago who said that he'd never go digital? Anyway, have fun ;-)) Shel Never said that. Just that I wasn't ready for it. Once Cath got hold of the DL, apparently I was. 8-) [Original Message] From: mike wilson Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11.
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11. hmmm... Preparing for something, aren't you? :-) Jostein
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
Bob W wrote: I saw that offer too a few days ago, in CameraWorld, I think, and was very surprised that they're so cheap. I'm almost tempted by it myself. What are the lenses like? -- Cheers, Bob Black. Glass in the middle. 8-) Not got it going yet (sigh) Will call back tomorrow. All seems to be well made for modern stuff but I'm not very keen on the feel of it. -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 April 2006 17:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: ist DL2 offer in UK Peter Jordan wrote: Jessops (not normally my favourite store) are offering istDL2 (which isn't officially launched in the UK IIRC) plus 18-35 and 50 - 250 for GBP 540 on their website. However, if you go into a store, it is currently going for GBP 499 which strikes me as a bargain (by UK standards at least). I'm going for it. They only had the display model in stock today, but are getting more in my local store tomorrow. Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11.
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11. hmmm... Preparing for something, aren't you? :-) Jostein And now Cath can take the pictures whilst I'm flaked out on the delivery room floor. 8-)))
Re: Pentax 645D (WAS: Mamiya is history)
It is supposed to use a Kodak sensor. Officially it is still 18Mp but some speculate it is really 22mp. Is there anything wrong with the Kodak sensor? Kodak's entry in the DSLR market was apparently very noisy. I have been concerned about this since I heard that Pentax would use a Kodak sensor in the 645D. Perhaps Kodak has improved since then. I am not in the market for the 645D, but I am concerned that Pentax will take a further financial loss if it doesn't sell. Joe
Re: Mamiya is history
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] You forget that the digital back cost 2-3 times the price of a digital camera. And that you are stuck with that same old camera. You also forget that hardly anyone in the grand scheme of things are using digital backs anyway. Digital backs aren't exactly hot selling items. The digital MF market is wide open. If you buy a digi-back, you're stuck with the camera, but have a new back. If you buy a dedicated digi-camera, your stuck with both the camera AND the back. Your argument doesn't make sense this time, Pål. Jostein
Re: Pixel noise identifies digital cameras
Very interesting indeed. As always in weapons races, countermeasures will eventually be developed. For instance, a filter that modifies these noise patterns to make it unrecognizeable. I'm not sure if their technology allows this sort of countermeasures, as I have only basic knowledge of cryptography and steganography, but I quite trust ingenuity (ill-placed or not). In the meantime, if it can help solving some cases... Patrice Juan Buhler a écrit : This is interesting. From the article linked below: Every original digital picture is overlaid by a weak noise-like pattern of pixel-to-pixel non-uniformity. Although these patterns are invisible to the human eye, the unique reference pattern or fingerprint of any camera can be electronically extracted by analyzing a number of images taken by a single camera. Fridrich's lab analyzed 2,700 pictures taken by nine digital cameras and with 100 percent accuracy linked individual images with the camera that took them. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/bu-bur041806.php j -- Juan Buhler Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
Re: Mamiya is history
- Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you buy a digi-back, you're stuck with the camera, but have a new back. If you buy a dedicated digi-camera, your stuck with both the camera AND the back. Your argument doesn't make sense this time, Pål. If this was such a good idea why don't Nikon and Canon make digital backs for their film cameras? The answer is that it is cheaper the replace both the camera and the sensor simultaneously. Pål
Re: Mamiya is history
On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: Nobody has MF cameras that are used commercially. Har! Phase One, Leaf, Hass/Fuji, etc. must all be imaginary then. Don't forget Sinar. The Sinar-M autofocus SLR is a gorgeous camera with some great Zeiss lenses. Bob
Nifty lens enablement
For a mere $19.95, an old t-mount Vivitar 85/1.8. With M42 T-mount attached. Now to go out test it. : ) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott
Re: PESO: John MacEnroe?
David Savage wrote: Ha :-) As soon as I saw it I could here McEnroe screaming You can't be serious, you jerk That's more or less exactly what I did, too, when I spotted this ;-) I like the shot but I think it needs more contrast to make he racket stand out from the background. Hmmm... Yeah, maybe you are right. This is a scan from negative, and I didn't spend a lot of time on that process, so there should be room for improvement of the actual image data. I mean, I think/hope there is enough contrast recorded on the film. Perhaps I'll post an enhanced version later... Dave S On 4/22/06, Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=232133 Mainly entered because I'm testing the gallery at foto.no, really - since my own web pages are apparently not available at the moment... - T
Re: Pentax 645D (WAS: Mamiya is history)
Kodak's 14mp DSLR's did not use Kodak sensors. It used a third party CMOS sensor. Kodak doesn't (or at least didn't at that time) make CMOS sensors. Kodak's sensors were too expensive to use in a camera at that price point. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Joseph Tainter wrote: It is supposed to use a Kodak sensor. Officially it is still 18Mp but some speculate it is really 22mp. Is there anything wrong with the Kodak sensor? Kodak's entry in the DSLR market was apparently very noisy. I have been concerned about this since I heard that Pentax would use a Kodak sensor in the 645D. Perhaps Kodak has improved since then. I am not in the market for the 645D, but I am concerned that Pentax will take a further financial loss if it doesn't sell. Joe
RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners
I couldn't agree more Shel. Despite this, I can't think in the lines Bob suggested. Not now. In not too distant future, I'll probably buy the new body with shake reduction. Then, I'll be using the DS as a backup body. With an obsolete backup body I might be willing to take the risk. If I drop the DS now. I'll be out of photography for a considerable time. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. april 2006 15:38 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: National Wildlife Photo Winners I'm not saying you should or shouldn't Tim, but over the years it seems that those photographers that go the extra distance, take more time, move in places that are hard to access, come away with better and stronger photos. Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Thank you, but no thank you. ;-) Not at my beach. No way, not with my luck. Think my chances for getting the tools safely out of water would be less than 50%. From: Bob W Maybe Tim can take note of the technique used to get closer to the curlew: Doxstater took off his socks and shoes and slowly waded into the marsh, making digital photos along the way using a 500mm lens and a 1.4x teleconverter.
Re: Way OT - Brita Water Filters
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 05:58:19PM +1200, David Mann wrote: On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Bob W wrote: The best water I ever tasted I drew from an old-fashioned well in a remote valley in northern Romania. Artesian beer? Why did you come back? Burton-on-Trent made some good beer using water from artesian wells ...
Re: ist DL2 offer in UK
Not all that keen on the feel myself, and the viewfinder does look like looking down a long dark tunnel, but in terms of portability performance for the price, you can't beat it. Peter - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: Re: ist DL2 offer in UK Bob W wrote: I saw that offer too a few days ago, in CameraWorld, I think, and was very surprised that they're so cheap. I'm almost tempted by it myself. What are the lenses like? -- Cheers, Bob Black. Glass in the middle. 8-) Not got it going yet (sigh) Will call back tomorrow. All seems to be well made for modern stuff but I'm not very keen on the feel of it. -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 April 2006 17:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: ist DL2 offer in UK Peter Jordan wrote: Jessops (not normally my favourite store) are offering istDL2 (which isn't officially launched in the UK IIRC) plus 18-35 and 50 - 250 for GBP 540 on their website. However, if you go into a store, it is currently going for GBP 499 which strikes me as a bargain (by UK standards at least). I'm going for it. They only had the display model in stock today, but are getting more in my local store tomorrow. Jessops Metro Centre had one in today. Note the past tense. Batteries on charge, pictures at 11.
PESO - Shoes
While getting dressed this morning, and playing with Tyler, these shoes caught my attention. I kicked 'em off last night, and this morning there was something about the way they looked that intrigued me. I suppose it's like a still life of sorts, instead of fruit or flowers, it's my big shoes LOL http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/shoes.html Tech stuff: istDS, A50/1.4, 800ISO, f/5.6, 1/15 sec hand held Shel
OT: Vivitar 85/1.8 review
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/Vivitar8518/ Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott
RE: PESO - Shoes
You have 3 feet?! If Van Gogh can do it, I guess we all can: http://artchive.com/artchive/V/van_gogh/vangogh_shoes.jpg.html -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 April 2006 20:24 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Shoes While getting dressed this morning, and playing with Tyler, these shoes caught my attention. I kicked 'em off last night, and this morning there was something about the way they looked that intrigued me. I suppose it's like a still life of sorts, instead of fruit or flowers, it's my big shoes LOL http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/shoes.html Tech stuff: istDS, A50/1.4, 800ISO, f/5.6, 1/15 sec hand held Shel
IR Photo-3
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=web-4718.jpg Cold, raining all day and i have another Gout attach going on, so i'm experimenting. Shot into the sun. istD 16-45 iso 1600 R72 filter Manual WB. Channel mixer R-86, G-3, B-6. Sepia filter at 50, red curve adjust slightly. Comments welcome Dave Equine Photography in York Region
Re: What's up with the list?
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: What's up with the list? FWIW, its been doing it at my end for several weeks. I though Dog was cutting me off, but he says no.:-) Isn't stopping you from being mean to him though. William Robb
Re: Can I use manual lenses on Digital DS2
With faster lenses at wide aperture (e.g. f/1.7), the AF indication is not precise enough to give any good indication for very narrow Depth of Field. With a careful focusing, I only get to focus where I want about once every 3 to 5 shots at f/1.7 (perhaps I'm not the most talented guy at this, though). The focusing screen is not very helpful with wide apertures neither, at least much less than MF bodies focusing aids (microprisms, split image telemeter). By the way, some people adapt those MF focusing screens to the *ist DS/DS2, but this seems to alter the metering in spot mode in random ways. With slower lenses (and wider depth of field) it works like a charm, like everything you mentioned. Welcome to the list. Patrice Denny B a écrit : I am anticipating purchasing a Pentax Digital DS2 body. Can I use my manual Pentax lenses I have collected over the last 35 years on the DS2 body, Some lenses are A-lenses, some are just SMC non A-lenses. Can I focus these lens manually and observe through the viewfinder that the lens is focused but even though I manually focus still get electronic signal (light or beep ) that the lens is focused? Can I use all light metering functions ( matrix, center weighted, spot ) with the A-lenses and some metering functions with the non A-lenses. I am a new poster here. Thanks in advance Denny B
