RE: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
 Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
 days a week on the Norco and am just about
 up to a 10K round trip.

Excellent - enjoy, and keep it up. It gets easier.

Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of David J Brooks
 Sent: 12 August 2008 22:42
 To: Pentax Discuss; Harry Bolton; Barbara Brooks
 Subject: OT Bike update
 
 Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
 days a week on the Norco and am just about
 up to a 10K round trip.
 Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work out.
 
 Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small trip
in
 to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.
 
 Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next
to
 no stops, except for the traffic light on the
 route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.
 
 No i'm not bringing it to GFM
 
 Dave


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RE: PESO: Spicy Pennsic Pic

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
Very impressive and interesting.
Bob 

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 Subject: PESO: Spicy Pennsic Pic
 
 Here's that salt-and-pepper macro shot I mentioned:
 Big:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2757459631/sizes/o/
 Main Flickr Entry:  
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RE: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
Here are some times to aim for :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm

And that's just the girls.

Bob 

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 Subject: RE: OT Bike update
 
  Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
  days a week on the Norco and am just about
  up to a 10K round trip.
 
 Excellent - enjoy, and keep it up. It gets easier.
 
 Bob
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of David J Brooks
  Sent: 12 August 2008 22:42
  To: Pentax Discuss; Harry Bolton; Barbara Brooks
  Subject: OT Bike update
  
  Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
  days a week on the Norco and am just about
  up to a 10K round trip.
  Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work
out.
  
  Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small
trip
 in
  to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.
  
  Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next
 to
  no stops, except for the traffic light on the
  route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.
  
  No i'm not bringing it to GFM
  
  Dave
 
 
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Re: Those having the budget and needing a really powerful (and heavy) laptop

2008-08-13 Thread Thibouille
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:03 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well the X60 is still a decent little piece of gear, isn't it? :-)

 What I miss most on the T30 is USB2...


 Jostein


It is, especially considering its 1.5Kg and 8 hours battery life :)

Maybe a USB2 PC Card would help somewhat?


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Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread timber
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080812/156393/

Should I worry? Does this means that Hoya might do the same with Pentax
like Sony did with Minolta? I am not too good in this business-blah-blah.

Cheers,
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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread Thibouille
Well, no AFAICT
Most of the losses has nothing to do with Pentax.

Moreover, they talk about getting into the SLR lens market whatever it means.

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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread Derby Chang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080812/156393/

 Should I worry? Does this means that Hoya might do the same with Pentax
 like Sony did with Minolta? I am not too good in this business-blah-blah.

 Cheers,
 .t


   
Well there is a global crunch happening everywhere. Why wouldn't it 
affect discretionary purchases? I don't read too much into it.

That said, I just got two new sets of specs with very expensive Hoya 
lenses. HIH.

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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:46 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here are some times to aim for :

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm

 And that's just the girls.

Guess if i don't stop for a pee, i'd be closer.:-)

Dave

 Bob

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 Subject: RE: OT Bike update

  Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
  days a week on the Norco and am just about
  up to a 10K round trip.

 Excellent - enjoy, and keep it up. It gets easier.

 Bob

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David J Brooks
  Sent: 12 August 2008 22:42
  To: Pentax Discuss; Harry Bolton; Barbara Brooks
  Subject: OT Bike update
 
  Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
  days a week on the Norco and am just about
  up to a 10K round trip.
  Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work
 out.
 
  Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small
 trip
 in
  to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.
 
  Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next
 to
  no stops, except for the traffic light on the
  route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.
 
  No i'm not bringing it to GFM
 
  Dave


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I've returned... and GESO

2008-08-13 Thread David Mann
Hi all,

I've been away from the list for quite a while as I've been busy with  
the real world.  I'm still busy but thought I might pop back in to see  
what's going on.

I'm still getting used to this whole digital workflow thing.  One of  
these days I'll upgrade Photoshop but that's not in the budget right  
now ;)

Anyway, a friend of mine does a bit of kayaking, among other sports,  
and he asked if I'd like to take some pics of a local race series.   
Not for money, just for fun.  I'm finding it to be challenging but  
lots of fun.  Especially the bit about not smashing the camera on  
rocks or drowning ;)

Linky:
http://www.multisport.net.nz/brass-monkey/

The first gallery was done by someone else, and the second is only  
enough to show a few pics of the high river when the race was  
cancelled.  The third and fourth are the races I covered.

In the bag is the K10D, FA200/2.8, F300/4.5, FA100/2.8 Macro, 43mm  
limited and FA*24/2.0.  I might try the FA400/5.6 next time but it  
might be a bit long (and is a pain to carry).  The 300 is about right  
for closeups.

The only thing I'd change about the K10D is to add an option to let it  
remember the selected AF point separately for horizontal and vertical  
orientations (I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that).

The races are suitable for paddlers of all levels and it's not a  
particularly difficult river.  I might have to have a go at it myself  
one of these days.

Cheers,

- Dave


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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
Same here.

Dave

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul,
 Problem with the url...
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665656size=lg

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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
That one is very good. Love the light trails.

Just enough blur to the main car.

We have had a few classic car shows around here, but they all fall on
horse show weekends.

One day i'll get a life.:-)

Dave

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

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Re: Peso Erin had a good weekend

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Congratulations and condolences, Dave.

 Offspring teach one the meaning of ambivalence.

Oh so true, and thanks Rick.

At least the owners of the pony, have to pny up for entrys etc. Erin
will just ride, but it willbe an expensive 2 minutes.

Dave

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 Subject: Peso Erin had a good weekend
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 Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:32 AM
 Photos and story.

 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

 More money, argg

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Re: OT: Got my book from Blurb.com

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
Just curious, what size photos are you sending in for an 8x10 book. I
assume a bit small to fit the page and add some text.??

Dave

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I ordered the 8x10 hardcovers, one of each type. I actually liked
 the quality of the picture reproduction on the dust cover version over
 the printed directly on the cover. Here are two shots of the book, the
 last two on the smugmug page.

 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#350718693_wbVmC

 As you can see the book is a novel or short story, 62 pages. It
 takes a couple hours to read at one setting if you are a normal
 reader.

 I am working up some pics to do a photo book of about 12 to 18 pages.
 We will see :-)

 Darn this is fun!!!

 Walt
 On 8/12/08, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think my Venice book came out pretty well with Blurb. Hardcover,
 10.5x8 (?), their mid-size. 40 pages or so.

 Then I did a 20-page softcover 7x7 of photos from a family event. 20
 pages. Quality was fine, no complaints there, but a 20-page softcover
 is just not a very substantial package. For anything less than
 40-60 pages I definitely recommend the hardcover version for gifts.

 Stan

 On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:36 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

  Glad to hear Walter.
 
  I'm in the process of picking 20-30 shots from my rural drives for a
  possible Xmas book for family.
 
  Need to go through a ton of negs and get about 10 good shots scanned.
  Most likely the ones i printed in that dark room class i took a few
  years ago.
 
 
 
  Dave
 
  On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Walter Hamler
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And it looks great!! I can't believe however that after all the
  checking and double checking I did, I still found 2 spelling
  errors!!!
  Oh well, I had only ordered one each of the different hardcovers. I
  made changes and uploaded the edited version. Now I will order some
  for gifts!
  Thanks to Mark and others who mentioned this company. I am very
  pleased with their quality!
 
  Walt
 
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Re: I've returned... and GESO

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
Welcome back Dave, and some nice phots in that gallery

Dave

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:29 AM, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been away from the list for quite a while as I've been busy with
 the real world.  I'm still busy but thought I might pop back in to see
 what's going on.

 I'm still getting used to this whole digital workflow thing.  One of
 these days I'll upgrade Photoshop but that's not in the budget right
 now ;)

 Anyway, a friend of mine does a bit of kayaking, among other sports,
 and he asked if I'd like to take some pics of a local race series.
 Not for money, just for fun.  I'm finding it to be challenging but
 lots of fun.  Especially the bit about not smashing the camera on
 rocks or drowning ;)

 Linky:
 http://www.multisport.net.nz/brass-monkey/

 The first gallery was done by someone else, and the second is only
 enough to show a few pics of the high river when the race was
 cancelled.  The third and fourth are the races I covered.

 In the bag is the K10D, FA200/2.8, F300/4.5, FA100/2.8 Macro, 43mm
 limited and FA*24/2.0.  I might try the FA400/5.6 next time but it
 might be a bit long (and is a pain to carry).  The 300 is about right
 for closeups.

 The only thing I'd change about the K10D is to add an option to let it
 remember the selected AF point separately for horizontal and vertical
 orientations (I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that).

 The races are suitable for paddlers of all levels and it's not a
 particularly difficult river.  I might have to have a go at it myself
 one of these days.

 Cheers,

 - Dave


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Re: PESO: Spicy Pennsic Pic

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
Neat.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:29 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's that salt-and-pepper macro shot I mentioned:
 Big:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2757459631/sizes/o/
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Re: GESO: Melissa

2008-08-13 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

 but for this specific type of presentation I want something that is a little 
 less rip-offable than an html gallery.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. Most of my students have never even *heard* 
of the right-click and save approach, they're so accustomed to doing 
screen grabs.




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Re: OT: Got my book from Blurb.com

2008-08-13 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:
 Just curious, what size photos are you sending in for an 8x10 book. I
 assume a bit small to fit the page and add some text.??

Blurb software tells you the exact pixel dimensions with each one of 
their templates, so you can size size your images precisely yourself 
before importing them.

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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille
Subject: Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?




 Moreover, they talk about getting into the SLR lens market whatever it 
 means.

Perhaps it means we'll see the 60-250 before we all die of old age...

William Robb 


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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread David Savage
2008/8/13 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 From: Thibouille
 Subject: Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?




 Moreover, they talk about getting into the SLR lens market whatever it
 means.

 Perhaps it means we'll see the 60-250 before we all die of old age...

Maybe we'll see Pentax lenses for other brands of camera?

Dave

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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread Rick Womer
The sky falls regularly.  Just carry a hardhat or sturdy umbrella, and keep 
shooting.

Rick

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 Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:32 AM
 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080812/156393/
 
 Should I worry? Does this means that Hoya might do the same
 with Pentax
 like Sony did with Minolta? I am not too good in this
 business-blah-blah.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread Steve Larson
Speaking of such, that Tamron 18-250 I got the wife for her Nikon is a sweet 
lens. I have created a
monster, the amount of snaps she prints now is astronomical, prolly gotta 
mortgage the house.


Steve

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 Moreover, they talk about getting into the SLR lens market whatever it
 means.

 Perhaps it means we'll see the 60-250 before we all die of old age...

 William Robb


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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread William Robb

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 Moreover, they talk about getting into the SLR lens market whatever it
 means.

 Perhaps it means we'll see the 60-250 before we all die of old age...

 Maybe we'll see Pentax lenses for other brands of camera?

Perhaps, but lets hope they service their own customers before going after 
Stigma's market.

William Robb 


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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?


 Speaking of such, that Tamron 18-250 I got the wife for her Nikon is a 
 sweet
 lens. I have created a
 monster, the amount of snaps she prints now is astronomical, prolly gotta
 mortgage the house.

We're short of trademen up here. I could probably find you a second job...
ww 


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Re: I've returned... and GESO

2008-08-13 Thread Rick Womer
Some nice shots there!  I like 4-1033 best.

My digital workflow smoothed out when I got Lightroom, which is a lot cheaper 
than PS.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: I've returned... and GESO
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 Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 6:29 AM
 Hi all,
 
 I've been away from the list for quite a while as
 I've been busy with  
 the real world.  I'm still busy but thought I might pop
 back in to see  
 what's going on.
 
 I'm still getting used to this whole digital workflow
 thing.  One of  
 these days I'll upgrade Photoshop but that's not in
 the budget right  
 now ;)
 
 Anyway, a friend of mine does a bit of kayaking, among
 other sports,  
 and he asked if I'd like to take some pics of a local
 race series.   
 Not for money, just for fun.  I'm finding it to be
 challenging but  
 lots of fun.  Especially the bit about not smashing the
 camera on  
 rocks or drowning ;)
 
 Linky:
 http://www.multisport.net.nz/brass-monkey/
 
 The first gallery was done by someone else, and the second
 is only  
 enough to show a few pics of the high river when the race
 was  
 cancelled.  The third and fourth are the races I covered.
 
 In the bag is the K10D, FA200/2.8, F300/4.5, FA100/2.8
 Macro, 43mm  
 limited and FA*24/2.0.  I might try the FA400/5.6 next time
 but it  
 might be a bit long (and is a pain to carry).  The 300 is
 about right  
 for closeups.
 
 The only thing I'd change about the K10D is to add an
 option to let it  
 remember the selected AF point separately for horizontal
 and vertical  
 orientations (I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that).
 
 The races are suitable for paddlers of all levels and
 it's not a  
 particularly difficult river.  I might have to have a go at
 it myself  
 one of these days.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Dave
 
 
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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread Rick Womer
Beautiful shot, Paul!  

Rick

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 Subject: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)
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 Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 11:30 PM
 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in
 Motor City. Many
  thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the
 street
  tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe,
 probably a '32 Ford or
  deuce coupe.
  Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50,
 f2.8, 1/8th second,
  ISO 400, 540 flash.
 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg
 
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Re: OT: Got my book from Blurb.com

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Sorenson
You can also zoom and pan to crop if you want so you don't have to 
re-size precisely.

-p

Mark Roberts wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:
 Just curious, what size photos are you sending in for an 8x10 book. I
 assume a bit small to fit the page and add some text.??
 
 Blurb software tells you the exact pixel dimensions with each one of 
 their templates, so you can size size your images precisely yourself 
 before importing them.
 


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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread Jack Davis
OH, how I hankered for one of those back in the graffiti day.
One of your best catches, Paul.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)
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 Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:30 PM
 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in
 Motor City. Many
  thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the
 street
  tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe,
 probably a '32 Ford or
  deuce coupe.
  Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50,
 f2.8, 1/8th second,
  ISO 400, 540 flash.
 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg
 
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PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg

A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k
 
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg
 
 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...
 
Well, for starters, there's a Dura-Ace chain ring on it.  And that's 
just not right.  Plus, he's got a master link in the chain.  (I have one 
on my fixie, too.  Oops.)

Nice pic.

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Bruce Walker
frank theriault wrote:
 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...
   

Campagnolo chainwheel?

Nice shot.

-bmw

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k
 
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg
 
 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

Obviously, he painted over the carbon fibre!
;-)


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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg

 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

 Well, for starters, there's a Dura-Ace chain ring on it.  And that's
 just not right.  Plus, he's got a master link in the chain.  (I have one
 on my fixie, too.  Oops.)

 Nice pic.


Well, first to answer gets the prize (a great big handshake when we
next meet!).  I didn't think it was that obvious, but I guess you look
past the obvious, Scott!  ;-)

You're right, this Italian beauty is sullied by a Shimano Dura Ace
chainring.  Other than that, it's all Italian!  I particularly love
his Campy Pista rims (note:  no braking surface!) with Stelvia sew up
tires.

Thanks for your comment, Scott!

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg

 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

 Obviously, he painted over the carbon fibre!
 ;-)

LMAO!

Actually, the frame is Columbus aluminium.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...


 Campagnolo chainwheel?

 Nice shot.

Well, the chainring bolts are certainly Campy, but the chainring
itself is Shimano Dura Ace.  One really has to know their bikes to
notice that, because all one can see is -Ace on the 'ring, so one
would have to know that's the last part of Dura-Ace, further that
Dura-Ace is Shimano's top o' the line groupo.

The blasphemy, of course, is putting Japanese parts on an Italian bike.

;-)

That's not to put down Japanese components or bikes.  Their Keirin
track bikes (Keirin is an extremely popular Japanese velodrome racing
series, now an Olympic sport!) are things of beauty.  But mixing
Japanese parts on an Italian thoroughbred?  Sheesh!

;-)

Thanks for the comment!

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

Love it!

cheers,
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Re: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Hey, Paul, that's yummy!  Fantastic shot.  Must have been a fun night of 
shooting!  Cheers, Christine


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 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

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Re: Spicy Pennsic Pic

2008-08-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Pretty cool shot, Glen.  Cheers, Christine


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 Here's that salt-and-pepper macro shot I mentioned:
 Big:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2757459631/sizes/o/
 Main Flickr Entry:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2757459631/
 Reactions on LJ:  http://dglenn.livejournal.com/1175061.html

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Christine Aguila
I have no idea what blasphemy has been committed here, but the rendering 
looks great.  Nice close up of the bike.  Good one, Frank.  Cheers, 
Christine


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 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg

 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: PESO 2008 - 129 - GDG

2008-08-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Godfrey.  I like it very much.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO 2008 - 129 - GDG


 Again reaching back into the library, this caught my eye ... A little
 splash of color amidst my recent BW. ;-)

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/129-ladder.jpg
  Pentax K10D + DA*50-135mm f/2.8
  ISO 100 @ f/7.1 @ 1/500 sec, fl=135mm

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
 Godfrey

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Re: Those having the budget and needing a really powerful (and heavy) laptop

2008-08-13 Thread AlunFoto
2008/8/13 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:03 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well the X60 is still a decent little piece of gear, isn't it? :-)

 What I miss most on the T30 is USB2...


 Jostein


 It is, especially considering its 1.5Kg and 8 hours battery life :)

 Maybe a USB2 PC Card would help somewhat?

It would, but the T30 not _my_ computer, so I won't bother. :-)

Jostein


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Re: Those having the budget and needing a really powerful (and heavy)laptop

2008-08-13 Thread AlunFoto
2008/8/13 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 You should have realized by now [patronizing snipped... :-)]

Hey, I only said what _I_ find ridiculous. YMMV, sir.

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RE: Those having the budget and needing a really powerful (andheavy)laptop

2008-08-13 Thread Anthony Farr
I forgot the smiley, I knew that was a mistake as soon as I hit send, and
that the humour would elude someone :-(

Here it is now :-)

No patronizing was intended, I don't even see how it was patronizing,
anyhow.

Regards, Anthony Farr

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  You should have realized by now [patronizing snipped... :-)]
 
 Hey, I only said what _I_ find ridiculous. YMMV, sir.
 
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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:46 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here are some times to aim for :

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm

 And that's just the girls.


Interesting.  My commute is almost exactly the same distance as that
TT (http://tinyurl.com/69hfz5).  I do it every day in about 50
minutes.  It's somewhat hilly, and I have traffic lights, a single
fixed gear and no brakes.  I suddenly feel pretty good about myself!

;-)

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Christine Aguila wrote:
 I found this title:  Fine Art Printing for Photographers:  Exhibition 
 Quality Prints with Inkjet Printers

 Does any know of this book and recommend it or not recommend it?  Does 
 anyone have a better recommendation?

 http://www.amazon.com/Fine-Art-Printing-Photographers-Exhibition/dp/1933952008
   

Christine, did you ever get any recommendations or did you go ahead and 
buy this book?  Any update?


There's been chat here (eg re the Epson 2880) and elsewhere that's got 
me thinking about printing alternatives.  My local photo shop will print 
8x10's on some fancy-schmancy high-end printer/imager for about $10 
(Can) per sheet.  Or I can buy an ink-jet (eg 1900, 2400, 2880), paper, 
the inks, and do it myself.

Gad! I thought figuring out what lenses I needed was research-intensive 
enough.

Is there some rule-of-thumb that suggests whether using a printing shop 
or going DIY with my own printer is the more appropriate alternative?

Then I have to figure out how to frame the darned things ... :-)

-bmw

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 13-Aug-08, at 11:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Christine Aguila wrote:
 I found this title:  Fine Art Printing for Photographers:   
 Exhibition
 Quality Prints with Inkjet Printers

 Does any know of this book and recommend it or not recommend it?   
 Does
 anyone have a better recommendation?

 http://www.amazon.com/Fine-Art-Printing-Photographers-Exhibition/dp/1933952008


 Christine, did you ever get any recommendations or did you go ahead  
 and
 buy this book?  Any update?


 There's been chat here (eg re the Epson 2880) and elsewhere that's got
 me thinking about printing alternatives.  My local photo shop will  
 print
 8x10's on some fancy-schmancy high-end printer/imager for about $10
 (Can) per sheet.  Or I can buy an ink-jet (eg 1900, 2400, 2880),  
 paper,
 the inks, and do it myself.


Bruce,
I've been asking myself the same question lately.  I currently  
have an Epson R220, but I do not use it for printing photos.  I have  
previously tried using it to print photos, but out of maybe a dozen or  
more attempts only one or two have been acceptable.

On the other hand, I just spent $150 on prints (16 or 17, some  
11x17 and some 8x12).  If I could figure out this whole inkjet  
printing game, the R1900 would be a good deal ($500) to save money in  
the long run.

   I'm just a little printer-shy due to my R220 experiences...

Mike

 Gad! I thought figuring out what lenses I needed was research- 
 intensive
 enough.

 Is there some rule-of-thumb that suggests whether using a printing  
 shop
 or going DIY with my own printer is the more appropriate alternative?

 Then I have to figure out how to frame the darned things ... :-)

 -bmw

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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
 days a week on the Norco and am just about
 up to a 10K round trip.
 Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work out.

 Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small trip in
 to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.

 Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next to
 no stops, except for the traffic light on the
 route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.

 No i'm not bringing it to GFM

 Dave

That's great, Dave!

I think the Tour du France is accepting applications for next year.
Now that they're really clamping down on doping, the times are way
down, so who knows?  It may be worth a shot!

;-)

Seriously, cycling is great exercise - you must be feeling better as
your fitness level increases.

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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Bob W wrote:
 Here are some times to aim for :
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm
 
 And that's just the girls.
 
Oh, yeah?  Let's see them try this.  http://www.tincanten.com/

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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:37 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
 days a week on the Norco and am just about
 up to a 10K round trip.
 Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work out.

 Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small trip in
 to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.

 Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next to
 no stops, except for the traffic light on the
 route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.

 No i'm not bringing it to GFM

 Dave

 That's great, Dave!

 I think the Tour du France is accepting applications for next year.
 Now that they're really clamping down on doping, the times are way
 down, so who knows?  It may be worth a shot!

How far apart are the beer tents.??


 ;-)

 Seriously, cycling is great exercise - you must be feeling better as
 your fitness level increases.

Yes i do, some what. My MD will be glad i'm trying at least.:-)

Dave

 cheers,
 frank


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Re: GESO: Melissa

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William Robb wrote:

 but for this specific type of presentation I want something that is a little
 less rip-offable than an html gallery.

 I wouldn't get my hopes up. Most of my students have never even *heard*
 of the right-click and save approach, they're so accustomed to doing
 screen grabs.

Don't mention rotory phones to them then.

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Christine Aguila

From: Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 http://www.amazon.com/Fine-Art-Printing-Photographers-Exhibition/dp/1933952008


 Christine, did you ever get any recommendations or did you go ahead and
 buy this book?  Any update?

Hi Bruce:  I didn't get any response to this post, and I haven't purchased 
the book, but I still might.  Godfrey, suggested a book too:  301 Inkjet 
Tips and Techniques: An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers by 
Andrew Darlow.  I suspect I'll take a looksee at that title  purchase it 
too.

 There's been chat here (eg re the Epson 2880) and elsewhere that's got
 me thinking about printing alternatives.  My local photo shop will print
 8x10's on some fancy-schmancy high-end printer/imager for about $10
 (Can) per sheet.  Or I can buy an ink-jet (eg 1900, 2400, 2880), paper,
 the inks, and do it myself.

The Epson 2880 is just fantastic.  I recently printed some BW shots of 
butterflies in 6 x 6 size on 8.5 x11 Velvet Fine Art paper, and my husband  
I were just blown away by the quality.  Bruce, the print quality is just 
amazing.  This printer can take a bad shot  make it look great :-).  When I 
1st bought my K10D, I did upload jpegs to Kodak for prints, but I was never 
that happy with the quality,  but it was a way for me to see my shots in 
print. 8 x 10s were about $3.99  I did a lot of 4x6 for about 15 cents a 
piece, but all that started to add up in terms of money,  felt I should 
just save the money to buy a high quality printer so that I'd be happy with 
my prints  have the control. Also, I definetly wanted to do some large size 
printing.

Moreover, my photographic skills were improving  my knowledge of the K10D 
was improving, so it just all kind of completed itself. But I've always 
known, whatever work you do on the computer, it's not going to shine unless 
you have a good printer--long before I got into digital photography I held 
this belief since I've done some low-end graphic/text project work with 
Microsoft Publisher et al,  we had a really great HP printer for that kind 
of stuff--but I do a lot less of that work now.

Bruce, I definitely recommend you start printing your own work.  It's so 
much fun, but I won't kid you, the joy of this part of the photographic 
process takes money!  But photography has always taken money!

 Gad! I thought figuring out what lenses I needed was research-intensive
 enough.

All of the 3 Epson printers you mention have gotten excellent reviews.  That 
1900 is supposed to be an excellent BW printer.  The 2400 is an excellent 
workhorse that produces beautiful prints,  I had planned to buy it, but I 
got a better deal on the R2880, and it's new technology--so I went with it. 
I'm very glad I did.

I've been shooting for a little over a year  have seen so few of my shots 
in print, so now I'm in constant oooh, let's see what this shot looks like 
printed up.  I'm going through ink  paper like you would not believe.  But 
as my husband said, well, you've got a backlog to print  a lot of 
enthusiam, an explosively expensive situation to be in. :-)

Here's the new plan:  a careful think-through of what constitutes a shot to 
be worthy of printing--now that I'm sobering up from printing 
intoxication.  My plan is to do theme driven printing (and shooting, for 
that matter)  become brutal in deciding what shot is worthy of printing. 
Hopefully, this will keep costs in the safe  sober zone  make me a better 
photographer.


 Is there some rule-of-thumb that suggests whether using a printing shop
 or going DIY with my own printer is the more appropriate alternative?

I don't know of any rule of thumb, but others probably do.

 Then I have to figure out how to frame the darned things ... :-)

I hear ya.  And to make matters worse, we have floor-to-ceiling bookcases 
covering every inch of virtually every wall in our apartment-- we have a 
huge apartment. I just recently cleared out the closet in my study, moved a 
bookcase into it, so I could have 1 clear wall to use as a kind of working 
gallery.

I said a lot,  hopefully some of it was useful.  All-in-all, I say get the 
printer.  I gotta go.  I'm late for an appointment.  Hope this helps!
Big cheers, Christine




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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:58 AM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right, this Italian beauty is sullied by a Shimano Dura Ace
 chainring.  Other than that, it's all Italian!  I particularly love
 his Campy Pista rims (note:  no braking surface!) with Stelvia sew up
 tires.

INEEDBRAKES.:-)

Dave

 Thanks for your comment, Scott!

 cheers,
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Re: Those having the budget and needing a really powerful (andheavy)laptop

2008-08-13 Thread AlunFoto
um...
sorry, I forgot a smiley too...

Jostein

2008/8/13 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I forgot the smiley, I knew that was a mistake as soon as I hit send, and
 that the humour would elude someone :-(

 Here it is now :-)

 No patronizing was intended, I don't even see how it was patronizing,
 anyhow.

 Regards, Anthony Farr

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 2008/8/13 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  You should have realized by now [patronizing snipped... :-)]

 Hey, I only said what _I_ find ridiculous. YMMV, sir.

 best,
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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Scott Loveless
David J Brooks wrote:
 INEEDBRAKES.:-)

Brakes are a luxury.

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k
 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

 Well, for starters, there's a Dura-Ace chain ring on it.  And that's
 just not right.  Plus, he's got a master link in the chain.  (I have one
 on my fixie, too.  Oops.)

 Nice pic.

 
 Well, first to answer gets the prize (a great big handshake when we
 next meet!).  I didn't think it was that obvious, but I guess you look
 past the obvious, Scott!  ;-)

Thanks1

 You're right, this Italian beauty is sullied by a Shimano Dura Ace
 chainring.  Other than that, it's all Italian!  I particularly love
 his Campy Pista rims (note:  no braking surface!) with Stelvia sew up
 tires.

He should have sprung for the Campy Record Track hardware.  But knowing 
what that stuff costs it's quite likely mine would have a Dura-Ace chain 
ring, too.  If I had a Cinelli, that is.

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:
 INEEDBRAKES.:-)

 Brakes are a luxury.

Brakes are for sissies.

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RE: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Maxime Thériault
I dooOOoon---Crash---'t. Crap, yes, I do as well.

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Subject: Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:58 AM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right, this Italian beauty is sullied by a Shimano Dura Ace
 chainring.  Other than that, it's all Italian!  I particularly love
 his Campy Pista rims (note:  no braking surface!) with Stelvia sew up
 tires.

INEEDBRAKES.:-)

Dave

 Thanks for your comment, Scott!

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There's a big difference between the R220 level printers and the  
bottom end pro series printers like the R2400, R2880, R3800 model.  
The latter do the business properly, the former can produce good  
prints but are nowhere near as easy to get quality results out of IMO.

I'm not so familiar with the R1900 model although it looks like a  
follow-on model to the R1800. These printers are pigment ink printers  
with smallish ink carts, optimized for color work and glossy papers.  
They do not use the K3 based ink set and are thus not as useful for  
BW printing work.

The R2400 and R3800 use the same K3 inkset (shared also with the  
R4800, R7800, etc). These are great on all surfaces, but particularly  
matte and luster surfaces, they lack the R1800/1900 gloss optimizer  
in the inkset. However, they have a full set of grays and print BW  
brilliantly. The R2880 is a follow-on to the R2400 and includes an  
updated Magenta and Light Magenta pair which supposedly improves on  
the color rendering, but does not have the gloss optimizer ink so it  
is more closely related to the R2400/R3800 series in terms of what you  
can expect from it.

It's pretty easy to get better prints than any but a very upscale  
print service with the R2400/etc. It's just more time consuming  
because you have to learn how to print yourself ... printing is always  
takes work and proves an often tedious learning endeavor. However,  
it's as simple as buy an R2400 and colorimeter, calibrate your  
monitor, install the drivers and paper profiles, use Lightroom and  
print in the end.

My cost per A3 print with the R2400 amounts to about US $1.40 in ink  
plus the cost of the sheet paper ($0.85 for Enhanced Matte, $3.60 for  
Velvet Fine Art). That's a lot cheaper than any print service I've  
found for an exhibition quality print. The capital cost of the printer  
(US $650) has been paid back in savings about four times over in the  
almost-three years I've been using it. And it's still going strong.

Godfrey

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Bruce,
I've been asking myself the same question lately.  I currently
 have an Epson R220, but I do not use it for printing photos.  I have
 previously tried using it to print photos, but out of maybe a dozen or
 more attempts only one or two have been acceptable.

On the other hand, I just spent $150 on prints (16 or 17, some
 11x17 and some 8x12).  If I could figure out this whole inkjet
 printing game, the R1900 would be a good deal ($500) to save money in
 the long run.

   I'm just a little printer-shy due to my R220 experiences...

 Mike


I'm surprised you had issues with the R220, it's been considered to be
one of the best printers ever put out in its price range. I have the
sister R320 model (Same basic printer, bunch of extra useless
features) and the output is excellent. You could be seeing a workflow
or paper match issue. Try printing some sRGB images on Epson Premium
Luster paper with the drivers set to let the printer manage colours.

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 He should have sprung for the Campy Record Track hardware.  But knowing
 what that stuff costs it's quite likely mine would have a Dura-Ace chain
 ring, too.  If I had a Cinelli, that is.

Well, if you notice, the chainring bolts are Campy, which means the
spider and cranks likely are, too.  I didn't actually look at them,
but I'm guessing that if the bolts are...

As to why he put a Dura-Ace 'ring on, that's anybody's guess.  Maybe
Campy doesn't make the size he needs?  Hard to believe, but stranger
things happen.

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RE: GESO: Melissa

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
 Most of my students have never 
 even *heard* 
 of the right-click and save approach

I blame the teachers.

Bob

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 William Robb wrote:
 
  but for this specific type of presentation I want something 
 that is a little 
  less rip-offable than an html gallery.
 
 I wouldn't get my hopes up. Most of my students have never 
 even *heard* 
 of the right-click and save approach, they're so accustomed 
 to doing 
 screen grabs.
 
 
 
 
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Re: PUG is up

2008-08-13 Thread Toralf Lund
Brian Walters wrote:
 Once again some fine work here:

 Favourites?  Lots, and mentioning just a few is unfair but these are the
 ones that particularly caught my attention.

 Tumulus by Filip Nicolai - nicely minimalist
 Some architecture and its two architects by Toralf - an unexpected
 interpretation of the theme
   
Thanks.

- Toralf



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RE: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
 Bob W wrote:
  Here are some times to aim for :
  
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm
  
  And that's just the girls.
  
 Oh, yeah?  Let's see them try this.  http://www.tincanten.com/
 

Better get our Rohloffs out.

Bob


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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Bob W wrote:
 Bob W wrote:
 Here are some times to aim for :

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm

 And that's just the girls.

 Oh, yeah?  Let's see them try this.  http://www.tincanten.com/

 
 Better get our Rohloffs out.
 
I think I left it on my Cinelli.

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Re: Spicy Pennsic Pic

2008-08-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hadn't seen this first time around. Very nice, artistic even! :-)

G


 From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Here's that salt-and-pepper macro shot I mentioned:
 Big:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2757459631/sizes/o/
 Main Flickr Entry:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL 
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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:20 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg

 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

Hmm. Japanese chain ring.

I guess that does in the fact that I used a lot of bolts, nuts and  
other stuff from the local Orchard Supply Hardware when I was building  
my beloved old Ducati motorcycle project in 1992 ...  People in the  
Ducati world gave me a lot of crap for that too.

Nice picture anyway. Even if it is blasphemous. ;-)

G

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RE: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:46 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here are some times to aim for :
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm
 
  And that's just the girls.
 
 
 Interesting.  My commute is almost exactly the same distance as that
 TT (http://tinyurl.com/69hfz5).  I do it every day in about 50
 minutes.  It's somewhat hilly, and I have traffic lights, a single
 fixed gear and no brakes.  I suddenly feel pretty good about myself!
 

that's pretty impressive. That's an average speed of about 20kph isn't
it? I can't do anything even remotely like that kind of average speed
in town. Last time I had to get anywhere as quickly as possible was to
catch a train about 3 weeks ago. The station is about 8 miles (about
14 km) away across London. With a fully-loaded large saddle-bag, and a
camera bag worn as a belt, obeying all the lights, and getting stuck
in traffic I did it in 50 minutes, and got the bike onto the train
with about 10 seconds to spare. 

Still faster than any other way of doing the same journey.

 I have traffic lights, a single
 fixed gear and no brakes

if you're anything like the London messengers then the last 2 items
make the first invisible.

Bob


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RE: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
 
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:46 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here are some times to aim for :
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm
 
  And that's just the girls.
 
 Guess if i don't stop for a pee, i'd be closer.:-)
 

that's what the Camelbak's for...

Bob


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OT: Adventure motorcycling

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
Even Charlie and Ewan didn't have this much fun:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7555996.stm

Bob


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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe

2008-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Jeez, wait one day and it's already taken down.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many  
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street  
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or  
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th second,  
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665656size=lg

   


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Re: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Now that worked.  Nice pan.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

   
 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
The US is undergoing a mild recession, not even an official recession 
yet actually, we sneeze and Japan gets a cold. I'd be surprised if all 
the Japanese camera makers weren't showing lower than expected earnings.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080812/156393/

 Should I worry? Does this means that Hoya might do the same with Pentax
 like Sony did with Minolta? I am not too good in this business-blah-blah.

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Re: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
If they won't let me see the video I won't bother reading their damned page.

Bob W wrote:
 Here are some times to aim for :

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm

 And that's just the girls.

 Bob 

   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bob W
 Sent: 13 August 2008 08:34
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: OT Bike update

 
 Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
 days a week on the Norco and am just about
 up to a 10K round trip.
   
 Excellent - enjoy, and keep it up. It gets easier.

 Bob

 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of David J Brooks
 Sent: 12 August 2008 22:42
 To: Pentax Discuss; Harry Bolton; Barbara Brooks
 Subject: OT Bike update

 Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
 days a week on the Norco and am just about
 up to a 10K round trip.
 Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work
   
 out.
   
 Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small
   
 trip
   
 in
 
 to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.

 Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next
   
 to
 
 no stops, except for the traffic light on the
 route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.

 No i'm not bringing it to GFM

 Dave
   
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PESO 2008 - 130 - GDG

2008-08-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Kids getting antsy while they wait for a movie at the Baja California  
Cultural Center in Tijuana ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/130-waiting.jpg
   The Waiting - Tijuana 2008
   Panasonic L1 + Olympus 25mm f/2.8
   ISO 100 @ f/5.6 @ 1/25 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: PESO: Spicy Pennsic Pic

2008-08-13 Thread Gonz
Excellent work.

On 8/12/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's that salt-and-pepper macro shot I mentioned:
  Big:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2757459631/sizes/o/
  Main Flickr Entry:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL 
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Re: I've returned... and GESO

2008-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
(Somebody has to say it.)

You were gone?

David Mann wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been away from the list for quite a while as I've been busy with  
 the real world.  I'm still busy but thought I might pop back in to see  
 what's going on.

 I'm still getting used to this whole digital workflow thing.  One of  
 these days I'll upgrade Photoshop but that's not in the budget right  
 now ;)

 Anyway, a friend of mine does a bit of kayaking, among other sports,  
 and he asked if I'd like to take some pics of a local race series.   
 Not for money, just for fun.  I'm finding it to be challenging but  
 lots of fun.  Especially the bit about not smashing the camera on  
 rocks or drowning ;)

 Linky:
 http://www.multisport.net.nz/brass-monkey/

 The first gallery was done by someone else, and the second is only  
 enough to show a few pics of the high river when the race was  
 cancelled.  The third and fourth are the races I covered.

 In the bag is the K10D, FA200/2.8, F300/4.5, FA100/2.8 Macro, 43mm  
 limited and FA*24/2.0.  I might try the FA400/5.6 next time but it  
 might be a bit long (and is a pain to carry).  The 300 is about right  
 for closeups.

 The only thing I'd change about the K10D is to add an option to let it  
 remember the selected AF point separately for horizontal and vertical  
 orientations (I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that).

 The races are suitable for paddlers of all levels and it's not a  
 particularly difficult river.  I might have to have a go at it myself  
 one of these days.

 Cheers,

 - Dave


   


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Re: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks to all who looked and commented. I printed an 18x12 of this  
shot and two others. I'm going to frame them right after I get off  
the computer and, along with six leftovers from last year,  they're  
going up in a downtown Birmingham gallery for the cruise.

We're all looking forward to the weekend, the forecast calls for  
perfect weather, 50,000 cars and a million-plus spectators.  The  
cruise is a holiday here. In importance it falls somewhere between  
Christmas and the Fourth of July.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hey, Paul, that's yummy!  Fantastic shot.  Must have been a fun  
 night of
 shooting!  Cheers, Christine


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 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th  
 second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very pretty. A nice composition, well rendered.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:20 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/6rlj9k

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SKA7ajAnitI/C0c/ 
 en9rrk8scA4/s1600-h/aug_11_08+002.jpg

 A major blasphemy was committed by the owner of this trackbike.  Can
 anyone notice?  You'll have to look very closely...

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?

2008-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
David Savage wrote:
 2008/8/13 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
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 Subject: Re: Pentax gets Minoltalized?



 
 Moreover, they talk about getting into the SLR lens market whatever it
 means.
   
 Perhaps it means we'll see the 60-250 before we all die of old age...
 

 Maybe we'll see Pentax lenses for other brands of camera?

 Dave
   
Already have, they're called Tokina.

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Re: PESO - Cinelli Vigorelli (more bike porn)

2008-08-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/8/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I particularly love
his Campy Pista rims

God you're a sicko Frank!!!

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PESO: Tudor Sedan

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
As a follow up to the three-window coupe. allow me to offer a Tudor  
Sedan. This is a model A Ford, I believe. Late twenties or early  
thirties. Some minor modifications by the owner who appears to have a  
knack with things mechanical.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7669720size=lg

Click to make it smaller.

{ai;

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 13-Aug-08, at 12:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:


  I'm just a little printer-shy due to my R220 experiences...

 Mike


 I'm surprised you had issues with the R220, it's been considered to be
 one of the best printers ever put out in its price range. I have the
 sister R320 model (Same basic printer, bunch of extra useless
 features) and the output is excellent. You could be seeing a workflow
 or paper match issue. Try printing some sRGB images on Epson Premium
 Luster paper with the drivers set to let the printer manage colours.

Well, what I really need to do is buy a monitor calibration device I  
think.  I get excellent results when someone else prints for me, and  
my screen output is identical to print when it's done by my favourite  
printer.  When I do it with the R220, colours are way off.

Mike


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RE: PESO: Tudor Sedan

2008-08-13 Thread Bob W
That's very dramatic! 

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 Sent: 13 August 2008 23:15
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 Subject: PESO: Tudor Sedan
 
 As a follow up to the three-window coupe. allow me to offer a Tudor

 Sedan. This is a model A Ford, I believe. Late twenties or early  
 thirties. Some minor modifications by the owner who appears 
 to have a  
 knack with things mechanical.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7669720size=lg
 
 Click to make it smaller.
 
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RE: Those having the budget and needing a really powerful(andheavy)laptop

2008-08-13 Thread Anthony Farr
No need for apology, you have the smiley.  I didn't notice it because it was
amongst the original message.

Regards, Anthony Farr

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 um...
 sorry, I forgot a smiley too...
 
 Jostein
 


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Re: PESO: Tudor Sedan

2008-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
That one is excellent. Top 2 or 3 for sure.

Dave

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a follow up to the three-window coupe. allow me to offer a Tudor
 Sedan. This is a model A Ford, I believe. Late twenties or early
 thirties. Some minor modifications by the owner who appears to have a
 knack with things mechanical.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7669720size=lg

 Click to make it smaller.

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 13-Aug-08, at 12:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:


  I'm just a little printer-shy due to my R220 experiences...

 Mike


 I'm surprised you had issues with the R220, it's been considered to be
 one of the best printers ever put out in its price range. I have the
 sister R320 model (Same basic printer, bunch of extra useless
 features) and the output is excellent. You could be seeing a workflow
 or paper match issue. Try printing some sRGB images on Epson Premium
 Luster paper with the drivers set to let the printer manage colours.

 Well, what I really need to do is buy a monitor calibration device I
 think.  I get excellent results when someone else prints for me, and
 my screen output is identical to print when it's done by my favourite
 printer.  When I do it with the R220, colours are way off.

 Mike


Definitely sounds like a colour calibration issue, but likely in the
print driver rather than your monitor being way off. It's easy to mess
up the printer colour settings and end up with both the driver and PS
applying profiles.

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread George Sinos
Bruce -

A few weeks ago I wrote about my old Canon printer biting the dust.  I
replaced it with a Canon Pro9500.  I'm just posting this to give you
another alternative.

Unlike the most other Canon printers, the 9500 is pigment based.  It
also has three blacks for better black and white.  For color, it has
an added Red and Green ink to help expand the gamut.

I've run test prints on the Illford Smooth Pearl and Smooth gloss
using the Illford printer drivers.  I'm getting excellent results
after playing around a bit.

Now, just to cover all the bases, I'm going to run some tests with the
Canon and a few other select papers just to see if there are
additional improvements to be had.

With my old printer, BW usually had a very slight some color cast.  I
tinted most everything to cover it up.  The BWs with the 9500 are very
good, but it's exposing the fact that I need to improve my BW printing
skills a lot.

On the color side, the difference in detail and color gamut is
significant.  I've started printing everything in adobe RGB as a
default and will experiment with the ProPhoto color space.

As far as your decision is concerned - unless you are extremely lucky
to have a great commercial printer at your disposal, you'll probably
do a better job yourself if you have the time.

I'm not saying you should go out and buy Canon printer instead of an
Epson.  That's a personal decision.  I'm just throwing out a few
random thoughts that might help you zero in on what's important to
you.

GS

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RE: OT Bike update

2008-08-13 Thread Anthony Farr
BBC vids usually display anywhere AFAIK.  This blackout would be an Olympics
broadcasting rights issue.  If your local TV network wants to keep you in
the dark until that night's prime-time replay, then no other images can
legally be delivered to your area by any means.

Here in Australia we're seeing the events as they happen because of a
similar timezone, and Perth is in the same Zone (unless China has daylight
saving in their summer).  The problem with that is that most Aussies are at
work or school :-(

Regards, Anthony Farr

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 If they won't let me see the video I won't bother reading their damned
page.
 
 Bob W wrote:
  Here are some times to aim for :
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7557748.stm
 
  And that's just the girls.
 
  Bob
 
 
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  Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
  days a week on the Norco and am just about
  up to a 10K round trip.
 
  Excellent - enjoy, and keep it up. It gets easier.
 
  Bob
 
 
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  Subject: OT Bike update
 
  Well, its been a cool wet summer, but i have been managing about 4
  days a week on the Norco and am just about
  up to a 10K round trip.
  Not all ups like Mark and Frank do, but decent grades and work
 
  out.
 
  Its 4 k to the old house, then i do some side streets, a small
 
  trip
 
  in
 
  to a bit of cedar bush, then 4 k back to my place.
 
  Last year, i need to stop every 500m but now i can do it with next
 
  to
 
  no stops, except for the traffic light on the
  route, which is a nice 30 sec break at 2 k.
 
  No i'm not bringing it to GFM
 
  Dave
 
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RE: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread Bill Sawyer
Which gallery, Paul?

Bill Sawyer
Livonia, MI

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Subject: Re: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

Thanks to all who looked and commented. I printed an 18x12 of this  
shot and two others. I'm going to frame them right after I get off  
the computer and, along with six leftovers from last year,  they're  
going up in a downtown Birmingham gallery for the cruise.

We're all looking forward to the weekend, the forecast calls for  
perfect weather, 50,000 cars and a million-plus spectators.  The  
cruise is a holiday here. In importance it falls somewhere between  
Christmas and the Fourth of July.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hey, Paul, that's yummy!  Fantastic shot.  Must have been a fun  
 night of
 shooting!  Cheers, Christine


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 Subject: PESO: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)



 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City. Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th  
 second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

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Re: PESO 2008 - 130 - GDG

2008-08-13 Thread Rick Womer
Excellent!  The boy in the right foreground makes the pic.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO 2008 - 130 - GDG
 To: SeePhoto Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED], DUG [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
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 Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 5:19 PM
 Kids getting antsy while they wait for a movie at the Baja
 California  
 Cultural Center in Tijuana ...
 
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/130-waiting.jpg
The Waiting - Tijuana 2008
Panasonic L1 + Olympus 25mm f/2.8
ISO 100 @ f/5.6 @ 1/25 sec
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 
 enjoy
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Re: PESO: Tudor Sedan

2008-08-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Great photos!  I really like the dark car here with the yellow pinstriping.
It's very dramatic.
I liked the coupe as well.
It reminds me that the kid next door had a '32(?) model A coupe with a V6.
It was complete with a rumble seat.  We were both highschool juniors or seniors.
It was great fun.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a follow up to the three-window coupe. allow me to offer a Tudor
 Sedan. This is a model A Ford, I believe. Late twenties or early
 thirties. Some minor modifications by the owner who appears to have a
 knack with things mechanical.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7669720size=lg

 Click to make it smaller.

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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread Rick Womer
I have an RX500, which has the same printer as the R200/220/300/320.  I had a 
horrible time getting good prints, even after monitor calibration and all 
manner of contortions.  What seems to work is the Mac Colorsync option, which 
is =finally= giving me consistent results very close (but still not identical) 
to what I'm seeing on the monitor of my G5 iMac.

Rick

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 Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 7:00 PM
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Mike Hamilton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 13-Aug-08, at 12:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
 
  On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hamilton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
 
   I'm just a little printer-shy
 due to my R220 experiences...
 
  Mike
 
 
  I'm surprised you had issues with the R220,
 it's been considered to be
  one of the best printers ever put out in its price
 range. I have the
  sister R320 model (Same basic printer, bunch of
 extra useless
  features) and the output is excellent. You could
 be seeing a workflow
  or paper match issue. Try printing some sRGB
 images on Epson Premium
  Luster paper with the drivers set to let the
 printer manage colours.
 
  Well, what I really need to do is buy a monitor
 calibration device I
  think.  I get excellent results when someone else
 prints for me, and
  my screen output is identical to print when it's
 done by my favourite
  printer.  When I do it with the R220, colours are way
 off.
 
  Mike
 
 
 Definitely sounds like a colour calibration issue, but
 likely in the
 print driver rather than your monitor being way off.
 It's easy to mess
 up the printer colour settings and end up with both the
 driver and PS
 applying profiles.
 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 129 - GDG

2008-08-13 Thread Brian Walters
Yes - I like that a lot.  Well balanced and in colour to boot!

:-)


Cheers

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:24:16 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Again reaching back into the library, this caught my eye ... A little  
 splash of color amidst my recent BW. ;-)
 
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/129-ladder.jpg
Pentax K10D + DA*50-135mm f/2.8
ISO 100 @ f/7.1 @ 1/500 sec, fl=135mm
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 
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Re: PESO: Reach

2008-08-13 Thread Brian Walters
Interesting image with good contrast.  Just seems a bit busy on the
lower right.  Not sure the duck helps!


Cheers

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:39:09 -0400, Paul Stenquist
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Re: Fine Art Printing

2008-08-13 Thread ann sanfedele


Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Bruce,
   I've been asking myself the same question lately.  I currently
have an Epson R220, but I do not use it for printing photos.  I have
previously tried using it to print photos, but out of maybe a dozen or
more attempts only one or two have been acceptable.



I'm very happy with what I get from the R220 - except for wanting a 
larger carriage to make 11 x 14 or
even  9 x 12 prints...  Is there an inexpensive Epson that has a larger 
carriage?  I don't think I can go there
in the very near future, but I should do it eventually.

ann

   On the other hand, I just spent $150 on prints (16 or 17, some
11x17 and some 8x12).  If I could figure out this whole inkjet
printing game, the R1900 would be a good deal ($500) to save money in
the long run.

  I'm just a little printer-shy due to my R220 experiences...

Mike




I'm surprised you had issues with the R220, it's been considered to be
one of the best printers ever put out in its price range. I have the
sister R320 model (Same basic printer, bunch of extra useless
features) and the output is excellent. You could be seeing a workflow
or paper match issue. Try printing some sRGB images on Epson Premium
Luster paper with the drivers set to let the printer manage colours.

  




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Re: I've returned... and GESO

2008-08-13 Thread Brian Walters
G'day Dave

Been wondering what had happened to the Kiwi contingent :-)

That event looks like it would have been great fun to shoot, provided
you could unfreeze your fingers long enough to press the shutter
release.

My favourites:

3-0798
3-0830
3-0874
4-0924
4-0959
4-1031

I also so like 2-0766, except for those bloody transmission lines!
 
As an aside, my son is currently somewhere over the Tasman as I write -
spending a few days doing railway photography around Arthur's Pass. 
Probably freeze his arse off!



Cheers

Brian

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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:29:02 +1200, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Hi all,
 
 I've been away from the list for quite a while as I've been busy with  
 the real world.  I'm still busy but thought I might pop back in to see  
 what's going on.
 
 I'm still getting used to this whole digital workflow thing.  One of  
 these days I'll upgrade Photoshop but that's not in the budget right  
 now ;)
 
 Anyway, a friend of mine does a bit of kayaking, among other sports,  
 and he asked if I'd like to take some pics of a local race series.   
 Not for money, just for fun.  I'm finding it to be challenging but  
 lots of fun.  Especially the bit about not smashing the camera on  
 rocks or drowning ;)
 
 Linky:
 http://www.multisport.net.nz/brass-monkey/
 
 The first gallery was done by someone else, and the second is only  
 enough to show a few pics of the high river when the race was  
 cancelled.  The third and fourth are the races I covered.
 
 In the bag is the K10D, FA200/2.8, F300/4.5, FA100/2.8 Macro, 43mm  
 limited and FA*24/2.0.  I might try the FA400/5.6 next time but it  
 might be a bit long (and is a pain to carry).  The 300 is about right  
 for closeups.
 
 The only thing I'd change about the K10D is to add an option to let it  
 remember the selected AF point separately for horizontal and vertical  
 orientations (I'm pretty sure it doesn't do that).
 
 The races are suitable for paddlers of all levels and it's not a  
 particularly difficult river.  I might have to have a go at it myself  
 one of these days.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Dave
 
 
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PESO: 'Shroom

2008-08-13 Thread Rick Womer
It is =very= wet here in New Hampshire.  Mushrooms are sprouting all over.  
This one appeared suddenly this afternoon.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7670637

K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/11 @ 1/45, RAW via LR.

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Re: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Bill,
Zoom. Same as last time.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote:

 Which gallery, Paul?

 Bill Sawyer
 Livonia, MI

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 Subject: Re: Deuce Coupe (corrected URL)

 Thanks to all who looked and commented. I printed an 18x12 of this
 shot and two others. I'm going to frame them right after I get off
 the computer and, along with six leftovers from last year,  they're
 going up in a downtown Birmingham gallery for the cruise.

 We're all looking forward to the weekend, the forecast calls for
 perfect weather, 50,000 cars and a million-plus spectators.  The
 cruise is a holiday here. In importance it falls somewhere between
 Christmas and the Fourth of July.
 Paul
 On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hey, Paul, that's yummy!  Fantastic shot.  Must have been a fun
 night of
 shooting!  Cheers, Christine


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 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 The Woodward Dream Cruise is up and running here in Motor City.  
 Many
 thousands of hot rods, classics and muscle cars on the street
 tonight. Here's a hot rod three window coupe, probably a '32  
 Ford or
 deuce coupe.
 Shot just after dark with the K20D and DA* 16-50, f2.8, 1/8th
 second,
 ISO 400, 540 flash.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7665704size=lg

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Re: PESO: Tudor Sedan

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Bob,
The 1931 model year saw the last  Ford Model A, so your friend's car   
was probably of that vintage. The Model B, which premiered in '32,  
was more rounded and was powered by the flathead V8. It was an  
instant success both for its styling and power.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:52 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Paul,
 Great photos!  I really like the dark car here with the yellow  
 pinstriping.
 It's very dramatic.
 I liked the coupe as well.
 It reminds me that the kid next door had a '32(?) model A coupe  
 with a V6.
 It was complete with a rumble seat.  We were both highschool  
 juniors or seniors.
 It was great fun.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Paul Stenquist  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a follow up to the three-window coupe. allow me to offer a Tudor
 Sedan. This is a model A Ford, I believe. Late twenties or early
 thirties. Some minor modifications by the owner who appears to have a
 knack with things mechanical.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7669720size=lg

 Click to make it smaller.

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Re: PESO: Reach

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the comment Brian.
Alas, the duck is part of the sculpture. But you're the only one who  
responded to this post, so I'm very pleased to see your response.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Interesting image with good contrast.  Just seems a bit busy on the
 lower right.  Not sure the duck helps!


 Cheers

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Re: PESO: 'Shroom

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice color and tonality. The pine needle ground cover is pleasing.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:31 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 It is =very= wet here in New Hampshire.  Mushrooms are sprouting  
 all over.  This one appeared suddenly this afternoon.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7670637

 K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/11 @ 1/45, RAW via LR.

 Rick






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