Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[Leon Altoff]

The book may be overrated, but the radio play was very good.  And that 
is how it started it's life.

  Leon

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Bob W wrote:
> Hitchhikers' Guide To The Galaxy. A much over-rated book.
> 
> Bob 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
>> Sent: 17 September 2008 23:01
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy
>>
>> Dave:  I have no idea what HHGTTG stands for, Dave.  Cheers,
> Christine
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks" 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:46 PM
>> Subject: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy
>>
>>
>>> Just watching local news channel CP24, which has ticker stories
>>> running at the bottom
>>> of the screen. One said a children;s author, name i forget, i'm
>>> waiting for the ticker to come round again,
>>> is penning the next chapter in the HHGTTG series.
>>>
>>> Were's Doug when we need him.:-0
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
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RE: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Bob W]

that's a very disappointing story - I was expecting to see someone
showing their bottom repeatedly. The type of people they hire are
asses, in both senses of the word.

Bob 

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> Sent: 18 September 2008 04:35
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> Subject: Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.
> 
> I should really read these things before I hit send.  
> Corrections in text.
> 
>  Part of todays adventure. 
> 
> A low budget movie is shooting in my home  town blocking 
> traffic on half 
> of main street. 
> 
> I was walking along  minding my own business, (but actually 
> armed with 
> my trust *ist-Ds and a  collection of appropriate lenses).  I
decided 
> I'd take a couple of  pictures to commemorate the event, (and 
> maybe make 
> a couple of bucks  selling the images to one of the local fish
wraps).
> 
> Suddenly this scruffy  individual rushes at  me from the 
> "company" and 
> confronts me to tell me  that I can't take any photos for, 
> and I quote 
> "legal reasons".  When I  asked him what I was doing wrong, 
> he was a a 
> loss except to explain,  except to repeat his original 
> statement.  When 
> I pointed out that the  "set" was on a public road and within 
> full view 
> of the public, with no  expectation of privacy, and that I 
> was allowed 
> to take photographs of  anything I wished under those 
> circumstances, his 
> new tack was to claim  that I couldn't use them for anything. 
> 
> I then pointed out that under  fair use I could use them for 
> non-commercial purposes which included  selling them, and my 
> story to a 
> newspaper, or printing them large and  selling them as art.  
> He was left 
> him gasping for breath, (sort of like a  large trout), at 
> which point he 
> went back to his original argument. 
> 
> I  also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that 
> stated in  
> part that, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to 
> being  in the movie...", which is patently false, to avoid legal 
> problems they still  need signed releases from anyone who shows up
on 
> camera.  
> 
> Where do they find these  people, and what idiot is giving them
legal 
> advice?  He managed to make  me furious as well.  I'm 
> thinking of going 
> back tomorrow just to piss  them off.
> 
> Lousy photographs to follow.
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RE: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[Bob W]

very nice indeed 

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> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Lousy photographs to follow.

Now _that's_ revenge.


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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Derby Chang]

P. J. Alling wrote:
> I should really read these things before I hit send.  Corrections in text.
>
>  Part of todays adventure. 
>
> A low budget movie is shooting in my home  town blocking traffic on half 
> of main street. 
>
> I was walking along  minding my own business, (but actually armed with 
> my trust *ist-Ds and a  collection of appropriate lenses).  I decided 
> I'd take a couple of  pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make 
> a couple of bucks  selling the images to one of the local fish wraps).
>
> Suddenly this scruffy  individual rushes at  me from the "company" and 
> confronts me to tell me  that I can't take any photos for, and I quote 
> "legal reasons".  When I  asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a 
> loss except to explain,  except to repeat his original statement.  When 
> I pointed out that the  "set" was on a public road and within full view 
> of the public, with no  expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed 
> to take photographs of  anything I wished under those circumstances, his 
> new tack was to claim  that I couldn't use them for anything. 
>
> I then pointed out that under  fair use I could use them for 
> non-commercial purposes which included  selling them, and my story to a 
> newspaper, or printing them large and  selling them as art.  He was left 
> him gasping for breath, (sort of like a  large trout), at which point he 
> went back to his original argument. 
>
> I  also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in  
> part that, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to 
> being  in the movie...", which is patently false, to avoid legal 
> problems they still  need signed releases from anyone who shows up on 
> camera.  
>
> Where do they find these  people, and what idiot is giving them legal 
> advice?  He managed to make  me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going 
> back tomorrow just to piss  them off.
>
> Lousy photographs to follow.
>
>   

We have all been there, Brother Peter. Heartening to see you stood your 
ground.

Here in Sydney, while they pay to shoot in the city, there are plenty of 
tax breaks for them to make it worthwhile. All complaints...speak to the 
hand.

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Derby Chang]

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home 
> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along 
> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a 
> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of 
> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks 
> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy 
> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me 
> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I 
> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain, 
> except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the 
> "set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no 
> expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of 
> anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim 
> that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under 
> fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included 
> selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and 
> selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a 
> large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I 
> also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in 
> part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being 
> in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these 
> people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make 
> me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss 
> them off.
>
> Lousy photographs to follow.
>
>   

Obliquely related to this, and kinda OT, but exactly the sort of thing 
that gets my goat.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2008/09/_by_aimee_green_after.html

I'm glad Mr Tabor stood his ground too.

D



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Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Roman Melihhov]

Does anyone have Samsung 35mm f2.0 lense. What can you say about it? It 
looks aw so much like FA 50mm f1.4. I wonder whats the optical quality.

Thank you for your information.

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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Derby Chang]

Roman Melihhov wrote:
> Does anyone have Samsung 35mm f2.0 lense. What can you say about it? It 
> looks aw so much like FA 50mm f1.4. I wonder whats the optical quality.
>
> Thank you for your information.
>
> Roman.
>
>
>   
Didn't you ask this same question last year, Roman?

I believe its a rebadged FA35/2. A lovely lens, whatever the badge.

D

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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Derby Chang]

Derby Chang wrote:
> Roman Melihhov wrote:
>   
>> Does anyone have Samsung 35mm f2.0 lense. What can you say about it? It 
>> looks aw so much like FA 50mm f1.4. I wonder whats the optical quality.
>>
>> Thank you for your information.
>>
>> Roman.
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
> Didn't you ask this same question last year, Roman?
>
> I believe its a rebadged FA35/2. A lovely lens, whatever the badge.
>
> D
>
>   

A sample
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_09/08_09_charge/01.htm

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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[Derby Chang]

Ken Waller wrote:
> Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> More from my recent U P week.
>
> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
>
> Coments appreciated
> Thanks in advance for looking
>
> Kenneth Waller
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>
>   
That makes my twitchy bits calm and restful. Truly gorgeous

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RE: Weddings and such.

[Steve Desjardins]

Hey, that's WEST Virginia . . .

Steven Desjardins
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>>> "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/17/2008 2:26 PM >>>
I guess you're not in Virginia, where he'd have been sleeping around
with HIS sister... 



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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[Derby Chang]

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
> At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
>
> K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly piping at 
> the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of the 
> anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
>
> small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
>
> large
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg
>
> Comments very welcome.
> Cheers, Christine 
>
>
>
>   

No ducking necessary. I'd go further with the photoshoppery and clone 
out the pipe on the right too. The high key background really pops the 
critter. Square format, classy.

Reminds me of Luka's fortunate pigeon shot a few weeks back.

D

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Re: Pentax service question...

[Paul Stenquist]

I just had a very good experience with Pentax Service. Some may  
recall that I dropped my AF 540FGZ on its nose. On a hard floor. The  
zoom motor quit working and the case and wide angle diffuser were  
damaged. I sent it to Pentax Colorado. They fixed it for $119. I got  
it back today, and it's as good as new. Shot with it this afternoon.  
Looks new as well.

I also had a good experience with my K10D, which didn't focus  
correctly with DA* lenses, although it was fine with other autofocus  
lenses. Sent it in without the lenses, which I need on a regular  
basis. It too came back working perfectly.

My K20D has focused very nicely from the start. Some minor  
adjustments of focal points proved beneficial with some of my lenses,  
but I have no complaints. It's been a great workhorse of a camera. I  
have 15,000 exposures on it now.
Paul
On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:25 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Scott Loveless  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Joseph McAllister wrote:
>>> In June, I sent my K10 D and an old FA 28-105 mm lens in for repair.
>>>
>>> What I got back was a K10 D with the firmware updated to 1.30 and
>>> focus that was much better, though still needing to be auto-focused
>>> twice to get a sharp photo, and still poor predictive AF. And no
>>> eyecup replacement, just the plastic base of it still in place.
>>>
>>> And i got back a lens that had been repaired so it worked fine in AF
>>> except at the extreme of 28 mm, where it still cinched slightly. And
>>> it focused at infinity at all focal lengths. And no charge at all.
>>>
>>> Now, I have to send my K100 in before it's extended warranty is up
>>> next month. I don't like it's focus abilities either. But I guess  
>>> I'd
>>> better send in a couple of my lenses as well, so some matching  
>>> can be
>>> done. I'd like to send in my K20 as well, as it's AF is abysmal, but
>>> they might just tell me I can use special functions and to do the
>>> calibration myself! And I would be without two camera bodies and my
>>> best lenses for 3 to 6 weeks.
>>>
>>> What to do?
>>
>> Switch to Canon?  ;-) Seriously, though, there seem to be a bunch of
>> focus issues lately.  Do the other makes have these problems, or  
>> is it
>> just us?
>
> No its not just us.:-)
>
> D1 had bad back focus, mostly in lowish light. They refused to
> acknowledge the problem but would fix it if you sent it in.
>
> Go figure.
>
> I have heard the Canon MK III (what ever the new one is) has focus  
> issues.
>
> Dave
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> That makes my twitchy bits calm and restful. 

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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[Paul Stenquist]

What Jack said. I love seeing your UP pics. Makes me want to get in  
the car and head north.
Paul
On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> VERY nice, Ken!
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/17/08, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> From: Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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>>
>> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
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>> Thanks in advance for looking
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Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:28 PM, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Just watching local news channel CP24, which has ticker stories
>> running at the bottom
>> of the screen. One said a children;s author, name i forget, i'm
>> waiting for the ticker to come round again,
>> is penning the next chapter in the HHGTTG series.
>>
>> Were's Doug when we need him.:-0
>
> Announced today apparently, and already in the Wikipedia entry for
> Hitchhiker?
>
> Eoin Colfer is the writer, commissioned to write "And Another Thing...",
> with Adam's widow giving approval.

Yes , thats the name on the tv ticker. I gave up waiting for it last
night, and sent the email anyway.
>
> But how can it be a trilogy when there's already been five books?

Its already a Trillogy in 4 parts, what one more.

Dave
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Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I quite liked it. I just think it's over-rated.

Enjoyed it as well.

I don't read a lot, now theres a understatement, but the books i have
read are from Adams.,and Tolkin( Hobbit etc,) so my readings may be
small, but impressive novels..

In my teens it was the wisdom of Hef.:-)

Dave
>
> Bob
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Bruce Dayton
>> Sent: 17 September 2008 23:24
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>>
>> Only people who don't like the book, don't like it 
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>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 3:10:39 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> BW> Hitchhikers' Guide To The Galaxy. A much over-rated book.
>>
>> BW> Bob
>>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> >> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
>> >> Sent: 17 September 2008 23:01
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>> >>
>> >> Dave:  I have no idea what HHGTTG stands for, Dave.  Cheers,
>> BW> Christine
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks"
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>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:46 PM
>> >> Subject: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy
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>> >> > Just watching local news channel CP24, which has ticker stories
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>> >> > of the screen. One said a children;s author, name i forget, i'm
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>> >> > is penning the next chapter in the HHGTTG series.
>> >> >
>> >> > Were's Doug when we need him.:-0
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Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[David Savage]

2008/9/18 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I quite liked it. I just think it's over-rated.
>
> Enjoyed it as well.
>
> I don't read a lot, now theres a understatement, but the books i have
> read are from Adams.,and Tolkin( Hobbit etc,) so my readings may be
> small, but impressive novels..
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> In my teens it was the wisdom of Hef.:-)

ROTFLMAO

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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Thibouille]

It IS indeed a FA35/2 with Samsung badge on it and manufactured by
Pentax (both Samsung lenses ans bodies are still manufactured by
Pentax).

It is pretty damn good if report I read are true (both film and PAS-C
sensor). It makes a very nice normal lens on APS-C as well.

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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[David J Brooks]

As Brian said, i like the blown out back ground aswell. Really brings
out the butterfly.

Dave

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Christine  Aguila
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> Hi Everyone:
> At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
>
> K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly piping at
> the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of the
> anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
>
> small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
>
> large
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg
>
> Comments very welcome.
> Cheers, Christine
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Thibouille]

What a stupid individual. Not that I'm surprised. Not at all.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:22 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss them off.

Do it, they deserve it :)
 Just make sure you and your material won't get damaged somehow ...

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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[David J Brooks]

Ken, great shot.

So peaceful, and i like the reflections.
The bits of grasses in the the FG is nice to see.

Dave

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> Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> More from my recent U P week.
>
> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
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> Coments appreciated
> Thanks in advance for looking
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

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On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What a stupid individual. Not that I'm surprised. Not at all.
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:22 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss them off.

Take a film camera, that should REALLY throw him off.:-)

Dave
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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[Bruce Dayton]

The B&W treatment gives it a very different look.  Makes you look at
the pattern a bit more.  There seems to be some kind of bar or
something near the bottom that doesn't make sense - it just sticks
out a bit from the butterfly.  I think I would clone that out.  Also
it seems odd the butterfly is clinging to ? glass perhaps?

Just seems not quite finished in PP.  I would go a bit further with
it myself.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 5:08:50 PM, you wrote:

CA> Hi Everyone:
CA> At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.

CA> K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly piping at
CA> the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of the
CA> anti-photoshoppery folks :-))

CA> small
CA> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843

CA> large
CA> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg

CA> Comments very welcome.
CA> Cheers, Christine 






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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Bruce Dayton]

Fun story.  Keep up the good harassment!

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 8:22:31 PM, you wrote:

PJA> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home 
PJA> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along 
PJA> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a
PJA> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of
PJA> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks 
PJA> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy
PJA> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me
PJA> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I
PJA> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain, 
PJA> except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the 
PJA> "set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no
PJA> expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of 
PJA> anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim
PJA> that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under 
PJA> fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included 
PJA> selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and 
PJA> selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a
PJA> large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I
PJA> also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in 
PJA> part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being
PJA> in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these
PJA> people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make
PJA> me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss 
PJA> them off.

PJA> Lousy photographs to follow.

PJA> -- 
PJA> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.
PJA> --Al Capone.





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PESO: Avian Runes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I don't know exactly why this interested me, but it did:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7829197

Comments welcome.


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K20D ISO1600 with ufraw v0.14 cvs wavelet denoising

[Roman Melihhov]

http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/1024x-kadriorg82481541.jpg

^^^ here, ISO 1600 RAW converted with ufraw and v0.14 CVS release and 
wavelet denoising. That  ufraw version 0.14 also has lensfun (lense 
correction for geometry, vignetting and TCA). Why I like ufraw again is 
that unlike Pentax Photo Lab 3.50 I have all of my lenses tested and 
added to lense XML database thats easy to edit and update. I don't need 
to manually change settings every RAW image I convert. Simply chose from 
the database ranging DA 10-17mm -- DA* 300mm and a bunch of FA lenses. 
My lense database on my public domain if interested:

http://roman.blakout.net/cache/slr-pentax.xml

Update your lense database as provided by lensfun manpages.

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Matthew Hunt]

Sounds like a nice place for a photowalk.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fun story.  Keep up the good harassment!
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 8:22:31 PM, you wrote:
>
> PJA> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home
> PJA> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along
> PJA> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a
> PJA> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of
> PJA> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks
> PJA> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy
> PJA> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me
> PJA> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I
> PJA> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain,
> PJA> except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the
> PJA> "set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no
> PJA> expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of
> PJA> anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim
> PJA> that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under
> PJA> fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included
> PJA> selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and
> PJA> selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a
> PJA> large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I
> PJA> also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in
> PJA> part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being
> PJA> in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these
> PJA> people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make
> PJA> me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss
> PJA> them off.
>
> PJA> Lousy photographs to follow.
>
> PJA> --
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> PJA> --Al Capone.
>
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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[John Sessoms]

From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 > Hi Everyone:
 > At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
 >
 > K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out
 > some ugly piping at
 > the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing
 > range of the
 > anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
 >
 > small
 > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
 >
 > large
 > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg
 >

I'm not "anti-photoshoppery", but this appears a little heavy handed. 
Looks like parts of the butterfly got cloned out as well.

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Re: OT -- But it is a picture...

[John Sessoms]

From: Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Howdy, y'all! 
> [*]
> 
> Just in case you are curious what was there originally:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=866111
> 
> Igor
> Alumni of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where NCSA is
> located, where Mosaic browser was created, ...  :-) 
> 
> 
> ===
> [*] In case anybody was curious, - I moved from San Diego to 
> College Station, Texas.[**] (Hence the greeting.) 
> The new job (professor at Texas A&M University) keeps me extremely busy.
> The combination of moving, beginning of the semester, building up a new
> lab, and the hurricane - Ike (which luckily didn't do much damage to our 
> immediate area, but changed many plans - everything was closed) made it 
> rather complicated, - 
> so I am just briefly looking over some messages going through the list 
> (as an excuse for my procrastination), and only time-to-time...
> 
> [**] If you are not familiar with the geography of Texas, - 
> Texas A&M University is located in the middle of three large cities:
> Houston, Austin and Dallas, ... in the town called College Station
> that intergrew into adjacent Bryan. 


Could be worse. At least it's not Killeen.

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re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home 
> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along 
> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a 
> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of 
> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks 
> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy 
> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me 
> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I 
> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain, 
> except to repeat his original statement.  


I wouldn't even have asked. I'd have told him to get da f*&^ out of my 
way or go to jail.

If he didn't move toot sweet, I'd have called the cops myself right then 
& there to have him hauled up on an assault charge.

And I WOULD swear out the warrant for the assault.


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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
> At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
>
> K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly piping at
> the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of the
> anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
>
> small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
>
> large
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg
>

I love it!

Wonderful rendering, beautiful butterfly.

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[Bob Blakely]

All cult classics are overated...

Folks who don't trim the crap from the bottom of their posts annoy me.

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From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I quite liked it. I just think it's over-rated.
> 
> Bob 
> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> 
>> Only people who don't like the book, don't like it 
>> 
>> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 3:10:39 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> BW> Hitchhikers' Guide To The Galaxy. A much over-rated book.
>> 
>> >> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
>> >> 
>> >> Dave:  I have no idea what HHGTTG stands for, Dave.  Cheers,
>> BW> Christine
>> >> 
>> >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> 
>> >> > Just watching local news channel CP24, which has ticker stories
>> >> > running at the bottom
>> >> > of the screen. One said a children;s author, name i forget, i'm
>> >> > waiting for the ticker to come round again,
>> >> > is penning the next chapter in the HHGTTG series.
>> >> >
>> >> > Were's Doug when we need him.:-0


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Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

[AlunFoto]

heh.
15 on a 15" laptop screen from 2003...
Look forward to do this on a brighter and more accurate screen.

Didn't take that long... 4 minutes, maybe?

Do a round of voting in the Pentax Gallery if you _really_ want to
burn time :-)

Jostein

2008/9/15 David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>
> 0 is a perfect score
>
> I got 111
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I  also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in  
> part that, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to 
> being  in the movie...", which is patently false, to avoid legal 
> problems they still  need signed releases from anyone who shows up on 
> camera.  

Actually, no they don't. The same "fair use" that protects your right to 
photograph in a public place, gives them cover as long as your 
appearance is fairly anonymous.

If you appear fleetingly in some scene showing pedestrians, gawkers or 
bystanders of any sort in the background, but are not singled out or 
prominently featured in any way, they don't need a release.

If they zoomed in on your face for a closeup, then they would.

Also, if they caught any part of your argument with the ass producer and 
wanted to use THAT, they'd have to get a release.

I'm in some B-movie filmed here in NC in the 80s. They used a newly 
opened section of I-40 near Wilmington, NC for filming.

It was open for about a week, then closed again - and they DIDN'T put up 
a sign about it being used as a movie set. It was open the day before 
when I drove down, and closed when I was going back home the next day.

I ignored the barricade, and drove on through. And I thought I wasn't 
the only one, because it looked like normal traffic on the highway.

Next thing I know, some asshole in a hopped up car comes flying past me 
and dozens of police cars chasing him.

A few minutes later, I see them all heading down the other side, going 
the other way ???

Then, here they all come back past me again ... W.T.F. is going on here?

Finally, I go under an overpass, and there's a film crew on the 
embankment with the director, and all the hangers on, and a camera 
mounted on a hydraulic boom capturing the whole thing ... and some guy 
yelling "KEEP MOVING, KEEP MOVING!"

Which I did.  ;-D

A friend who saw the movie said there was a big blue Chevy van like mine 
in a chase scene.

So, I don't think they need a release.

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Re: PESO - The Standoff

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank:  I LOVE THIS PICTURE!  You know, what's that movie--something old men
> with Walter Matthau et al?  This shot reminds me of that.  The beauty of
> this shot is in its subtlety, Frank!  Cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine.  I agree with you about the subtlety.  It doesn't
hit you over the head like a hammer, does it?

;-)

And, as you already know, it's Grumpy Old Men that you're thinking
about.  Whether for that movie (which indeed came to mind) or another,
I thought it would have made a good movie poster, too!

cheers,
frank

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PESO -Wild, wild horses

[Doug Brewer]

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=595

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Re: PESO - The Standoff

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like it.
>
> Well seen & composed.

Thanks, Dave.

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[David Savage]

2008/9/18 Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Well, the camera certainly is not holding you back. There are some
> nice images in there.

Thanks Bruce.

> From your indications, you are using a Sigma,
> Voigtlander and Nikkor lenses. I would be curious to know your
> thoughts so far of the camera and lenses.

The lenses. So far I have:

Nikkor AF-D 35mm f2
Nikkor AF-D 50mm f1.4
Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 EX DG Macro
Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro APO Lanthar

The Nikon 50 & 35mm are handy focal lengths & make for a relatively
compact lens/body combination. I've no experience with the FA 35mm f2,
so I can't compare, but the Nikkor is pretty soft @ f2 and distorts a
bit. but for what I use that lens for it's performance is acceptable.
Same with the 50, not as nice as the FA 50 f1.4, but usable. Stopped
down a bit, both lenses are fine.

I have for a long time steered away from Sigma due to previous bad
experiences. But I couldn't afford to start out buying both the new
body & the Nikon equivalent 24-70mm f2.8. This forced me to consider
the Sigma. I gave it a good workout in the store & was convinced that
i had a good copy. Sharp, nice contrast etc. So I got it & haven't
regretted that purchase. The only thing I wished was that it had the
flare resistance of my Pentax glass. I have to pay extra attention
when shooting near bright light sources.

The Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro I also have in Pentax mount & was the
one lens I really wanted to have access to on the Nikon. As it's out
of production & highly sort after, when one came up on eBay & was
going for a reasonable price I pounced on it. I recommend to anyone,
if you can find a copy & it won't cost you your first born or both
kidneys, get it. It is beautifully sharp & the bokeh is delicious. I
love this lens.

The camera:

It's solid, well built, big & relativity heavy. However I have carried
it around all day without any ill effects :-)

It's nice to shoot looking through a decent VF again. On occasion I
have both the K20D & D700 with me when I'm out shooting & switching
from the D700 to the K20D, I really notice how small the K20D's VF
really is. The D700 UI is very nice. This is why I went with Nikon
over Canon. I just really like how Nikon's bodies handle & coming from
Pentax the re-learning curve isn't very steep.

AF is snappy & I haven't noticed the "Penatx 2 step" style of focusing
(ie quick & dirty, then a final adjustment). Either it doesn't do it,
or I'm not noticing it because the Nikon screw drive AF is lower
pitched & less obvious.

Metering is spot on in most situations. I'm finding it more accurate
than the K20D at any rate.

Live view implementation is much better than the K20D. So much so that
I actually use it (the macro of the Viola was focused using LV). You
can zoom in without the image quality falling apart almost instantly.
Also the virtual horizon in live view (and in the VF) is a neat
feature. When I shoot at night I can't always see the horizon so this
is a useful feature.

ISO & low noise performance live up to the hype & are my main reasons
for the purchase. With the K20D I always hesitated to shoot over ISO
800, I would if I had no other choice, but preferred not to. With the
D700 I don't even think twice about going up to ISO 3200. Also as
mentioned previously for long exposure night shots, none of my Pentax
DSLR's have been able to come close to the low noise performance.

Buying the D700 wasn't easy or frivolous decision. I didn't really
want to do it, but I'm starting to find a direction to my photography
and it's low light & long exposures. Unfortunately the current Pentax
technology just isn't up to satisfying my requirements. I'm also not
convinced that Samsung have enough experience in sensor design yet to
produce what I'm after. I hope I am proven wrong, and that Hoya Pentax
will do something special soon.

Cheers,


Dave

> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:14:55 AM, you wrote:
>
> DS> G'day All,
>
> DS> So I stated the other day that I bought a Nikon D700. I've had it now
> DS> for a few weeks & thought I'd share 10 of my better shots for those
> DS> who are so inclined to look.
>
> DS> If you can handle Flickr's slideshows:
>
> DS> 

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[David Savage]

2008/9/18 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dave,\
>
> Forgot to ask in my last email.
>
> Whats your processing here, LR or PS or combo of.

At the moment I'm mainly using LR 1.xx (I haven't made the upgrade to
LR 2 yet). But to use it I have to convert all my .nef files to .dng.
Apparently LR2 recognises the D700 .nef RAW files.

PS CS3 I use when more intense editing is required.

> The first photo is great. Low noise, at least from what i see, nice
> and sharp, tons better than the D200, and from a Sigma.:-) Maybe they
> are getting better at this.

Well as I said in my reply to Bruce, I tested the lens pretty
thoroughly before committing to it. Maybe I was lucky & just found a
good sample :-)

Cheers,

Dave

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> So I stated the other day that I bought a Nikon D700. I've had it now
>> for a few weeks & thought I'd share 10 of my better shots for those
>> who are so inclined to look.
>>
>> If you can handle Flickr's slideshows:
>>
>> 

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[David Savage]

2008/9/18 Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sep 17, 2008, at 11:14, David Savage wrote:
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> So I stated the other day that I bought a Nikon D700. I've had it now
>> for a few weeks & thought I'd share 10 of my better shots for those
>> who are so inclined to look.
>>
>> If you can handle Flickr's slideshows:
>>
>> 
>>
>
> Some nice looking images there, David!

Thanks Charles.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[ann sanfedele]

Peter --
About a year ago I went to a reading of a play written by a friend -- 
all the readers, except one, were members of
Actors Equity and doing the gig for free  I was snapping away making 
a little gallery for my friend the writer...
I posted the photos adn sent the writer the link -- I think I may also 
have shown it to the list or at least to some
mutual friends... writer write me that this was, apparently, taboo 
 taking photos of pro actors during a performance
was a major nono --- of course, everyone saw I was taking them and I 
certainly would have stopped if someone had
asked I didn't want my friend to get into trouble so I've hidden the 
gallery - and I gave him a printout...

I think it is one thing to grab shots of actors hanging out around the 
set, etc, and another to shoot stuff that
would be in the film  - just a guess...  

It's annoying,aint it?

ann

P. J. Alling wrote:

>Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home 
>town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along 
>minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a 
>collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of 
>pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks 
>selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy 
>individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me 
>that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I 
>asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain, 
>except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the 
>"set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no 
>expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of 
>anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim 
>that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under 
>fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included 
>selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and 
>selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a 
>large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I 
>also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in 
>part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being 
>in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these 
>people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make 
>me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss 
>them off.
>
>Lousy photographs to follow.
>
>  
>



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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[Ken Waller]

Looks like a good specimen & you've got it all in focus,

but I don't really care for the B+W presentation.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO BW Butterfly


> Hi Everyone:
> At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
>
> K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly piping 
> at
> the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of the
> anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
>
> small
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
>
> large
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg
>
> Comments very welcome.
> Cheers, Christine


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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> So I stated the other day that I bought a Nikon D700. I've had it now
> for a few weeks & thought I'd share 10 of my better shots for those
> who are so inclined to look.

Gorgeous stuff!

cheers,
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Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses

[David J Brooks]

I approve.:-)

Dave

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=595
>
> enjoy
>
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:
> Peter --
> About a year ago I went to a reading of a play written by a friend -- 
> all the readers, except one, were members of
> Actors Equity and doing the gig for free  I was snapping away making 
> a little gallery for my friend the writer...
> I posted the photos adn sent the writer the link -- I think I may also 
> have shown it to the list or at least to some
> mutual friends... writer write me that this was, apparently, taboo 
>  taking photos of pro actors during a performance
> was a major nono 

In a theater or other private venue that's (usually) true -- it depends 
on the rules of the venue and the terms on your admission ticket. But in 
a public place like P.J.s case he's entirely free to take whatever 
photos he wants, whether they're bystanders or actors, in performance or 
not.


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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:22 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home
> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along
> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a
> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of
> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks
> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy
> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me
> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I
> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain,
> except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the
> "set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no
> expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of
> anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim
> that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under
> fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included
> selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and
> selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a
> large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I
> also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in
> part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being
> in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these
> people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make
> me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss
> them off.
>
> Lousy photographs to follow.
>
> --
> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.
>--Al Capone.

Last time something like that happened to me I was on a subway
platform with camera poised - aimed at an incoming train, not at
people.

A security guard approached me and told me that taking photographs was
prohibited by TTC (Toronto Transit Commission) regulation 16.  I
rather took him by surprise when I replied that I was aware that
regulation 16B prohibited the taking of photographs "for commercial
purposes" without express written permission of the TTC.  (the
regulations, which have been incorporated into a City Bylaw are posted
near a door on each subway car - and I'd read 'em!)

I patiently told him that I'd never sold a photo taken in the subway
system and didn't intend to sell what I was taking that day, so in
fact I had the right to shoot.

He said it made passengers feel uncomfortable to see a guy with a
camera and asked again nicely if I could stop shooting.  Deciding that
(a) he was being nice about it, and (b) he had a gun and I didn't, and
(c) in fact I was on private property (okay, it was quasi-public, but
that's another discussion for another day) and he could in fact hand
me a Notice under the Trespass Act and boot me off the premises for no
good reason whatsoever, I chose to save my fight for another day.

I smiled and said, "Okay, look, I'm putting my lenscap on and turning
off the camera. I certainly don't want to offend anyone or make them
feel uncomfortable.  Thanks!"  And that was that.

So that's my story.

I like your stoy, though.  I'll join the swelling chorus and suggest
you take a photo-walk again, in the same area, tomorrow.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=595
>
> enjoy
>

Beautiful!

Stunning!

Gorgeous!

cheers,
frank


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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Adam Maas]

For lenses, you've got a few good options. The Zeiss ZF 35/2 is a
major upgrade over the Nikon 35/2 AF-D (which is a decent lens, but
not up to its 35/2 AI-S predecessor) and the 35/1.4 AI-S is excellent
as well, although not as sharp as the Zeiss. Similarly the Zeiss ZF
50's are nice upgrades over the 50mm f1.4 AF-D, as is the Voigtlander
58/1.4 and the Nikkor 50 and 58 f1.2's. The Zeiss 50/1.4, Voigtlander
58/1.4 and Nikkor 50/1.2 are all reasonably priced.

The Voigtlander 125 you've got is stellar, I'm not sure it can be
topped. And it sounds like you got a particularly good example of the
usually unimpressive Sigma 24-70.l

-Adam

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:45 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/18 Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Well, the camera certainly is not holding you back. There are some
>> nice images in there.
>
> Thanks Bruce.
>
>> From your indications, you are using a Sigma,
>> Voigtlander and Nikkor lenses. I would be curious to know your
>> thoughts so far of the camera and lenses.
>
> The lenses. So far I have:
>
> Nikkor AF-D 35mm f2
> Nikkor AF-D 50mm f1.4
> Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 EX DG Macro
> Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro APO Lanthar
>
> The Nikon 50 & 35mm are handy focal lengths & make for a relatively
> compact lens/body combination. I've no experience with the FA 35mm f2,
> so I can't compare, but the Nikkor is pretty soft @ f2 and distorts a
> bit. but for what I use that lens for it's performance is acceptable.
> Same with the 50, not as nice as the FA 50 f1.4, but usable. Stopped
> down a bit, both lenses are fine.
>
> I have for a long time steered away from Sigma due to previous bad
> experiences. But I couldn't afford to start out buying both the new
> body & the Nikon equivalent 24-70mm f2.8. This forced me to consider
> the Sigma. I gave it a good workout in the store & was convinced that
> i had a good copy. Sharp, nice contrast etc. So I got it & haven't
> regretted that purchase. The only thing I wished was that it had the
> flare resistance of my Pentax glass. I have to pay extra attention
> when shooting near bright light sources.
>
> The Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro I also have in Pentax mount & was the
> one lens I really wanted to have access to on the Nikon. As it's out
> of production & highly sort after, when one came up on eBay & was
> going for a reasonable price I pounced on it. I recommend to anyone,
> if you can find a copy & it won't cost you your first born or both
> kidneys, get it. It is beautifully sharp & the bokeh is delicious. I
> love this lens.
>
> The camera:
>
> It's solid, well built, big & relativity heavy. However I have carried
> it around all day without any ill effects :-)
>
> It's nice to shoot looking through a decent VF again. On occasion I
> have both the K20D & D700 with me when I'm out shooting & switching
> from the D700 to the K20D, I really notice how small the K20D's VF
> really is. The D700 UI is very nice. This is why I went with Nikon
> over Canon. I just really like how Nikon's bodies handle & coming from
> Pentax the re-learning curve isn't very steep.
>
> AF is snappy & I haven't noticed the "Penatx 2 step" style of focusing
> (ie quick & dirty, then a final adjustment). Either it doesn't do it,
> or I'm not noticing it because the Nikon screw drive AF is lower
> pitched & less obvious.
>
> Metering is spot on in most situations. I'm finding it more accurate
> than the K20D at any rate.
>
> Live view implementation is much better than the K20D. So much so that
> I actually use it (the macro of the Viola was focused using LV). You
> can zoom in without the image quality falling apart almost instantly.
> Also the virtual horizon in live view (and in the VF) is a neat
> feature. When I shoot at night I can't always see the horizon so this
> is a useful feature.
>
> ISO & low noise performance live up to the hype & are my main reasons
> for the purchase. With the K20D I always hesitated to shoot over ISO
> 800, I would if I had no other choice, but preferred not to. With the
> D700 I don't even think twice about going up to ISO 3200. Also as
> mentioned previously for long exposure night shots, none of my Pentax
> DSLR's have been able to come close to the low noise performance.
>
> Buying the D700 wasn't easy or frivolous decision. I didn't really
> want to do it, but I'm starting to find a direction to my photography
> and it's low light & long exposures. Unfortunately the current Pentax
> technology just isn't up to satisfying my requirements. I'm also not
> convinced that Samsung have enough experience in sensor design yet to
> produce what I'm after. I hope I am proven wrong, and that Hoya Pentax
> will do something special soon.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Dave
>
>> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:14:55 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> DS> G'day All,
>>
>> DS> So I stated the other day that I bought a Nikon D700. I've had it now
>> DS> for a few weeks & thought I'd share 10 of my better shots for those
>> DS> who are so in

Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Nice pix, Dave. Enjoy your D700 ... it's a fine camera.

> At the moment I'm mainly using LR 1.xx (I haven't made the upgrade to
> LR 2 yet). But to use it I have to convert all my .nef files to .dng.
> Apparently LR2 recognises the D700 .nef RAW files.
>
> PS CS3 I use when more intense editing is required.

Move to LR2 and you'll need PS CS3 less and less ...
Even on the road using my ancient PowerBook G4 (way underpowered for  
LR2, really) I found that doing the whole job in LR2, including small  
area corrections, etc, meant that I almost never even started up  
Photoshop.

  :-)

Godfrey

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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Toralf Lund]

Thibouille wrote:
> It IS indeed a FA35/2 with Samsung badge on it and manufactured by
> Pentax (both Samsung lenses ans bodies are still manufactured by
> Pentax).
>   
Hmmm. The Schneider-Kreuznach (a.k.a. Jos. Schneider Optische Werke) 
website seems to indicate that the Samsung cameras have actual Schneider 
optics, but maybe it's just make-believe? Some of the zoom lenses to not 
appear to have exact Pentax equivalents, though...

And yes, contrary to what some people seem to think, Scheider still 
exists as an actual company - it's not just an old brand name that 
others stick on their equipment (unlike some others in the photo industry.)
> It is pretty damn good if report I read are true (both film and PAS-C
> sensor). It makes a very nice normal lens on APS-C as well.
>
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[John Sessoms]

From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Peter --
> About a year ago I went to a reading of a play written by a friend -- 
> all the readers, except one, were members of
> Actors Equity and doing the gig for free  I was snapping away making 
> a little gallery for my friend the writer...
> I posted the photos adn sent the writer the link -- I think I may also 
> have shown it to the list or at least to some
> mutual friends... writer write me that this was, apparently, taboo 
>  taking photos of pro actors during a performance
> was a major nono --- of course, everyone saw I was taking them and I 
> certainly would have stopped if someone had
> asked I didn't want my friend to get into trouble so I've hidden the 
> gallery - and I gave him a printout...
> 
> I think it is one thing to grab shots of actors hanging out around the 
> set, etc, and another to shoot stuff that
> would be in the film  - just a guess...  
> 
> It's annoying,aint it?

It's also quite wrong. They have no legal basis to object.

As with Peter's sign stating that "by entering you give permission to 
appearing in the movie", you have multiple "Fair Use" grounds on which 
to defend yourself:

1. You were there BY INVITATION of the writer, one of the participants.

2. Actors are PUBLIC persons, and their PUBLIC activities are, in the 
vernacular "fair game". It's a public performance. They only own the 
rights to COMMERCIAL exploitation of their persona's.

Fair use allows you to use the product of your own work for self 
promotion. You could, legally, even sell prints of the photos you took, 
and certainly you can use them to "advertise" yourself as a photographer.

3. They could have asked you to stop while you were taking the photos, 
and did not. If the reading took place in a theater, they could have 
told you in advance "no photography allowed."

But they didn't, did they?
They didn't stop you from bringing your camera in; they didn't stop you 
from taking photographs.

And I'd bet the original invitation from the writer included an implied, 
if not explicit, "Would you bring your camera and take some pictures of 
actors reading MY PLAY, so I can use them to promote myself?"

I'd have told 'em to SOD OFF!

And while they may hassle your friend, if he complained to me about it, 
I'd ask him back, "Why did YOU put me in a situation for someone to 
hassle me?"

Consider having some special business cards made just for those 
occasions. The word "litigious" should feature prominently on the front, 
along with a statement of photographer's rights on the back.

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Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses

[Derby Chang]

Doug Brewer wrote:
> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=595
>
> enjoy
>
>   
Beautiful, Doug. You wouldn't happen to be a Sundays fan, would you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i-0FB68LoQ

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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Thibouille]

Indeed the Schneider lenses with K-mount only have Schneider name (for
which Samsung proably has to pay a licence).

Samsung will deny it of course. Even the exterior aesthetics is the
same (except a piece of rubber or two). There's more difference
between Tamron and Pentax version of the 18-250 than between Pentax
and Schneider/Samsung versions.

BTW, note that the 16-45 has not been labeled as Schneider but as
Samsung Zoom Lens. Funny heh ? ;)

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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> More from my recent U P week.
>
> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
>

Gorgeous!

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Re: [Not official] P-TTL Ring Flash from Metz coming ??

[Thibouille]

More here:
http://www.digit.no/wip4/unik_makroblitz_metz_mecablitz_15_ms-1_digital/d.epl?id=155240

Scroll down. Nice real English text ;)

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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[Joseph McAllister]

I'm surprised no one has commented on the apparent circle surrounding  
the b'fly. Looks like at one point a circular area was chosen to keep,  
and the rest dropped off, leaving a difference in whites. It might be  
improved if the magic lasso was used to frame just the b'fly, and the  
rest dropped out, with the pattern of the cage put back in as a layer  
behind.

On Sep 18, 2008, at 08:16 , David J Brooks wrote:
>
>
> As Brian said, i like the blown out back ground aswell. Really brings
> out the butterfly.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>> At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
>>
>> K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly  
>> piping at
>> the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of  
>> the
>> anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
>>
>> small
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
>>
>> large
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg
>>
>> Comments very welcome.
>> Cheers, Christine
>

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Re: Weddings and such.

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There's some pretty serious moonshine operations out there. Places with
> virtual private armies where the police don't even like to go. Dealing
> in moonshine and North Carolina's second biggest cash crop (after
> tobacco, of course) - marijuana.

I still can't get over smoking in restaurants in North Carolina.  I
guess you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you, but still...

Mind you, I noticed the smoke as I peered through the steam rising off
my plate of biscuits and gravy (something we don't have in The Great
White North, I'm afraid).  Man they tasted good!  I suspect, however
that a steady diet of those things would clog the arteries in about
six months (although one young lady was telling us that she had them
every single morning, and she seemed quite healthy...).

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[ann sanfedele]

Mark Roberts wrote:

>ann sanfedele wrote:
>  
>
>>Peter --
>>About a year ago I went to a reading of a play written by a friend -- 
>>all the readers, except one, were members of
>>Actors Equity and doing the gig for free  I was snapping away making 
>>a little gallery for my friend the writer...
>>I posted the photos adn sent the writer the link -- I think I may also 
>>have shown it to the list or at least to some
>>mutual friends... writer write me that this was, apparently, taboo 
>> taking photos of pro actors during a performance
>>was a major nono 
>>
>>
>
>In a theater or other private venue that's (usually) true -- it depends 
>on the rules of the venue and the terms on your admission ticket. But in 
>a public place like P.J.s case he's entirely free to take whatever 
>photos he wants, whether they're bystanders or actors, in performance or 
>not.
>
>  
>
I was thinking that the guy that chased him off  might know about the 
other kind of situation -- although
these days the actors are skittish anyway, even if out on the street

ann

>  
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[ann sanfedele]

Actually -- Bob didn't know I was bringing my camera - it was a tiny bar 
near my house... It was the theatre
playwriting group that objected - He was redfaced about asking me not to 
display them - beyond what I already had...
I was largely annoyed because I thought they would all be pleased to 
have a memento of the occasion - and because
I went to the trouble of doing it when I could have saved myself the 
work.   I really don't understand it myself but
it does appear to be an Actor's Equity thing.   It was a free 
performance, and they waived the drink minimum for me
because there was nothing there I could drink at all.

ann

John Sessoms wrote:

>From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  
>
>>Peter --
>>About a year ago I went to a reading of a play written by a friend -- 
>>all the readers, except one, were members of
>>Actors Equity and doing the gig for free  I was snapping away making 
>>a little gallery for my friend the writer...
>>I posted the photos adn sent the writer the link -- I think I may also 
>>have shown it to the list or at least to some
>>mutual friends... writer write me that this was, apparently, taboo 
>> taking photos of pro actors during a performance
>>was a major nono --- of course, everyone saw I was taking them and I 
>>certainly would have stopped if someone had
>>asked I didn't want my friend to get into trouble so I've hidden the 
>>gallery - and I gave him a printout...
>>
>>I think it is one thing to grab shots of actors hanging out around the 
>>set, etc, and another to shoot stuff that
>>would be in the film  - just a guess...  
>>
>>It's annoying,aint it?
>>
>>
>
>It's also quite wrong. They have no legal basis to object.
>
>As with Peter's sign stating that "by entering you give permission to 
>appearing in the movie", you have multiple "Fair Use" grounds on which 
>to defend yourself:
>
>1. You were there BY INVITATION of the writer, one of the participants.
>
>2. Actors are PUBLIC persons, and their PUBLIC activities are, in the 
>vernacular "fair game". It's a public performance. They only own the 
>rights to COMMERCIAL exploitation of their persona's.
>
>Fair use allows you to use the product of your own work for self 
>promotion. You could, legally, even sell prints of the photos you took, 
>and certainly you can use them to "advertise" yourself as a photographer.
>
>3. They could have asked you to stop while you were taking the photos, 
>and did not. If the reading took place in a theater, they could have 
>told you in advance "no photography allowed."
>
>But they didn't, did they?
>They didn't stop you from bringing your camera in; they didn't stop you 
>from taking photographs.
>
>And I'd bet the original invitation from the writer included an implied, 
>if not explicit, "Would you bring your camera and take some pictures of 
>actors reading MY PLAY, so I can use them to promote myself?"
>
>I'd have told 'em to SOD OFF!
>
>And while they may hassle your friend, if he complained to me about it, 
>I'd ask him back, "Why did YOU put me in a situation for someone to 
>hassle me?"
>
>Consider having some special business cards made just for those 
>occasions. The word "litigious" should feature prominently on the front, 
>along with a statement of photographer's rights on the back.
>
>  
>



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Re: Pentax service question...

[Joseph McAllister]

I've had very good experiences with Pentax Service in the past. It's  
just this one time.

My K100 D was sent in last year because paint chips from somewhere had  
gathered on the focusing screen, some covering the text display. I  
might have been able to clean it myself, but:   a. I wanted to know  
where the paint chips were coming from, and   b. I've scratched more  
than one focusing screen when removing or installing them on my LX,  
PZ, and MX cameras.

The camera came back good as new. They even replaced the dented and  
scratched cap on the control dial.

And I've had my LXs into them on several occasions for CLA at which  
time they replaced the shutter box for the newer version with out  
being asked. Although they did not replace the top cover as I had  
asked on one of the LX bodies, but instead painted over the brassed  
and dented parts with thick black glossy paint using a small brush.  
Looked like I'd done it myself on a bad day. Guess they no longer had  
the part, or didn't want to go through the resealing process. And they  
repaired two AF280 flash units for me good as new. (for a stiff price)

So I was really just wanting to see if their service quality was going  
downhill in general, or was it just this one instance.

50/50, it seems.

Much better than Kodak, who refused to repair my 2 year old LS 443  
digital, offering instead to sell me a newer upscale model refurb LS  
540 for $20 more than they were selling them as refurbs on their  
website. I called them on it, they held firm. Gee - never had a Kodak  
camera (nor bought any film) since. (still have plenty of film in the  
freezer - god knows when I'll ever use it)  :-)

Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

On Sep 18, 2008, at 05:58 , Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I just had a very good experience with Pentax Service. Some may  
> recall that I dropped my AF 540FGZ on its nose. On a hard floor. The  
> zoom motor quit working and the case and wide angle diffuser were  
> damaged. I sent it to Pentax Colorado. They fixed it for $119. I got  
> it back today, and it's as good as new. Shot with it this afternoon.  
> Looks new as well.
>
> I also had a good experience with my K10D, which didn't focus  
> correctly with DA* lenses, although it was fine with other autofocus  
> lenses. Sent it in without the lenses, which I need on a regular  
> basis. It too came back working perfectly.
>
> My K20D has focused very nicely from the start. Some minor  
> adjustments of focal points proved beneficial with some of my  
> lenses, but I have no complaints. It's been a great workhorse of a  
> camera. I have 15,000 exposures on it now.
> Paul
> On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:25 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Scott Loveless  
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Joseph McAllister wrote:
 In June, I sent my K10 D and an old FA 28-105 mm lens in for  
 repair.
>>>

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Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses

[Doug Brewer]

Derby Chang wrote:
> Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
>>http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=595
>>
>>enjoy
>>
>>  
> 
> Beautiful, Doug. You wouldn't happen to be a Sundays fan, would you?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i-0FB68LoQ
> 
> Derby
> 

I am now. Thanks for the link and the compliment. Looks like the 
director and I had the same palette.

Thanks also to Dave for approving and to Frank for the superlatives.

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PESO - Patiently Waiting

[frank theriault]

I don't know why, but I like this one.  Yes, it's grainy (I guess that
should be "noisy"), not all that sharp, I'm sure you can pick out
other problems, but I like it anyway.  ;-)  Hopefully you do, too:

http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/patiently-waiting-in-davisville-yards.html

Maybe it's because I like subways.  Anyway, comments are always welcome.

thanks,
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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

>> Move to LR2 and you'll need PS CS3 less and less ...
>>
> As good as LR is, if you shoot one of the new Nikons it's just about
> impossible to beat Capture NX2 for quality. There's a lot of extra
> goodies in the D700 (like Picture Controls and the automated CA
> removal) that can only be taken advantage of in RAW when used with
> NX2. And NX2 does selective editing much better than just about
> anything else thanks to Nik Software's Control Point technology.

I'm generally uninterested in one-manufacturer-only software...

NX2 might be nice and do a good job. But with 230,000+ photos from a  
wide range of cameras in my working archive, it's just not practical  
to have specific software for each make and exploit it appropriately.

> The downside is NX2 is a little slow due to how it renders edits (it
> re-renders the RAW file rather than adjusting the previous render) and
> it doesn't offer LR's file management capabilities.

Without file management capabilities, it's of no use to me at all any  
more.

I've yet to find anything in any one-manufacturer-only software  
package that I can't achieve with LR aside from specialized effects  
that are not of any particular interest to me. It might take more  
work, but the difference is purely a matter of degree and experience  
in use.

G

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Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[Cotty]

On 17/9/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Ah, yes, thanks for that Cotty, and I'm sure glad your message did not come
>with a typo! ;-)  Cheers, Christine

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Re: PESO - Patiently Waiting

[ann sanfedele]

Actually, I don't mind noise and grain  but it doesnt look grainly or 
noisy to me
-- I think the only problem with this is it is a bit too "busy" - nothing
stands out... and that may be _partly_ a consequence of the flat, even 
lighting - not sure
if this is something that can be fiddled with in photoshop to improve or 
not...

I like trains of all kinds, too

ann

frank theriault wrote:

>I don't know why, but I like this one.  Yes, it's grainy (I guess that
>should be "noisy"), not all that sharp, I'm sure you can pick out
>other problems, but I like it anyway.  ;-)  Hopefully you do, too:
>
>http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/patiently-waiting-in-davisville-yards.html
>
>Maybe it's because I like subways.  Anyway, comments are always welcome.
>
>thanks,
>frank
>
>  
>



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Re: PESO - The Standoff

[Cotty]

On 17/9/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Yes, I know of the Odd Couple, but there's another one--old men something,
>more recent.  I was a huge fan of the original movie & the tv series--yes,
>very brilliant, but I'm think of that recent one.  :-)  Cheers, Christine

Aaaah. Don't known it.

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Scott Loveless]

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> He said it made passengers feel uncomfortable to see a guy with a
> camera and asked again nicely if I could stop shooting.  Deciding that
> (a) he was being nice about it, and (b) he had a gun and I didn't, and
> (c) in fact I was on private property (okay, it was quasi-public, but
> that's another discussion for another day) and he could in fact hand
> me a Notice under the Trespass Act and boot me off the premises for no
> good reason whatsoever, I chose to save my fight for another day.

You should have told him to go explain 16B to the uncomfortable people.

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Re: PESO BW Butterfly

[Cotty]

On 17/9/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hi Everyone:
>At a butterfly haven @ a nature museum here in Chicago.
>
>K10D, 50mm 1.4, ISO 200, 40 sec @ f5.6.  I did clone out some ugly piping at
>the bottom. (maybe I should duck now to get out of firing range of the
>anti-photoshoppery folks :-))
>
>small
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843
>
>large
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7851843&size=lg

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice pix, Dave. Enjoy your D700 ... it's a fine camera.
>
>> At the moment I'm mainly using LR 1.xx (I haven't made the upgrade to
>> LR 2 yet). But to use it I have to convert all my .nef files to .dng.
>> Apparently LR2 recognises the D700 .nef RAW files.
>>
>> PS CS3 I use when more intense editing is required.
>
> Move to LR2 and you'll need PS CS3 less and less ...
> Even on the road using my ancient PowerBook G4 (way underpowered for
> LR2, really) I found that doing the whole job in LR2, including small
> area corrections, etc, meant that I almost never even started up
> Photoshop.
>
>  :-)
>
> Godfrey

As good as LR is, if you shoot one of the new Nikons it's just about
impossible to beat Capture NX2 for quality. There's a lot of extra
goodies in the D700 (like Picture Controls and the automated CA
removal) that can only be taken advantage of in RAW when used with
NX2. And NX2 does selective editing much better than just about
anything else thanks to Nik Software's Control Point technology.

The downside is NX2 is a little slow due to how it renders edits (it
re-renders the RAW file rather than adjusting the previous render) and
it doesn't offer LR's file management capabilities.



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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Cotty]

On 17/9/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home
>town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along
>minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a
>collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of
>pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks
>selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy
>individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me
>that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I
>asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain,
>except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the
>"set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no
>expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of
>anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim
>that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under
>fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included
>selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and
>selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a
>large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I
>also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in
>part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being
>in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these
>people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make
>me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss
>them off.
>
>Lousy photographs to follow.

Har! He's fulla shit. But don't inflame the situation - no need. Smile,
nod, walk off, shoot away. Just be careful there isn't a local PD
looking after them with stars in his eyes or you'll feel the sharp end
of his stick.

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>>> Move to LR2 and you'll need PS CS3 less and less ...
>>>
>> As good as LR is, if you shoot one of the new Nikons it's just about
>> impossible to beat Capture NX2 for quality. There's a lot of extra
>> goodies in the D700 (like Picture Controls and the automated CA
>> removal) that can only be taken advantage of in RAW when used with
>> NX2. And NX2 does selective editing much better than just about
>> anything else thanks to Nik Software's Control Point technology.
>
> I'm generally uninterested in one-manufacturer-only software...
>
> NX2 might be nice and do a good job. But with 230,000+ photos from a
> wide range of cameras in my working archive, it's just not practical
> to have specific software for each make and exploit it appropriately.

NX2 is both a dedicated RAW converter for Nikon users and a
non-destructive JPEG and TIFF editor. It's not something I'd recommend
unless you primarily use Nikons, but if you do its quite capable of
functioning as a primary editor after the conversion stage for any
other files. And its selective editing capabilities are far beyond
LR2's.

>
>> The downside is NX2 is a little slow due to how it renders edits (it
>> re-renders the RAW file rather than adjusting the previous render) and
>> it doesn't offer LR's file management capabilities.
>
> Without file management capabilities, it's of no use to me at all any
> more.

While I like the idea of integrated file management, RAW conversion
and editing software, the reality of such software has left something
to be desired for me. I really liked LR as a solution when I was
shooting with Pentax kit (where Adobe's ACR engine is the clear winner
for IQ), but it's not up to producing the same quality of output as
CaptureNX2 with Nikon RAW files. I've also found that manual
filesystem organization and any reasonable photo browser works better
than LR catalogs for my uses. And while I don't have 230,000 images in
my library, the 40,000+ I do have are fairly significant.

>
> I've yet to find anything in any one-manufacturer-only software
> package that I can't achieve with LR aside from specialized effects
> that are not of any particular interest to me. It might take more
> work, but the difference is purely a matter of degree and experience
> in use.
>
> G

NX2 is a little unique in being a true non-destructive JPEG and TIFF
editor that's also a Nikon-specific RAW converter, the latter only
really matters due to the support for CA removal and Picture Controls
(the High ISO NR is a lot better than LR1, but I can't compare to LR2
as I don't have enough experience with the latter). Most other
manufacturer software is far less capable (PhaseOne's Capture One
packages being the major exception as it's also marketed as a
multi-format RAW converter with robust batch capabilities).



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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[Toralf Lund]

Thibouille wrote:
> Indeed the Schneider lenses with K-mount only have Schneider name (for
> which Samsung proably has to pay a licence).
>   
Quite likely.
> Samsung will deny it of course.
Obviously...

I'm willing to take Scheider's word for it when they claim to have done 
more than just licensing the name, though. But what they are actually 
saying, is that some of the Samsung compacts have lenses developed by 
Schneider-Kreuznach, and that "many of" the Samsung SLR lenses were 
"developed in cooperation with Schneider-Kreuznach." They don't say 
which of the lenses they are talking about, of course, or how many 
exactly "many of" means, but it seems quite easy to point out to or 
three models for which there are no obvious Pentax equivalent. But 
actually, none of these seem to be listed any more on the Samsung site...
>  Even the exterior aesthetics is the
> same (except a piece of rubber or two). There's more difference
> between Tamron and Pentax version of the 18-250 than between Pentax
> and Schneider/Samsung versions.
>
> BTW, note that the 16-45 has not been labeled as Schneider but as
> Samsung Zoom Lens. Funny heh ? ;)
>   
Same goes for the 18-250 and "new" 18-55, actually...

BTW, do you happen to know if the Scheider/Samsung versions of Pentax 
lenses are SMC?

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[P. J. Alling]

Not entirely true, I have a friend who's the legal mind behind a local 
studio.  His opinion is that releases are necessary.  You never know 
when someone is going to be a b*d.

John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> I  also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in  
>> part that, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to 
>> being  in the movie...", which is patently false, to avoid legal 
>> problems they still  need signed releases from anyone who shows up on 
>> camera.  
>> 
>
> Actually, no they don't. The same "fair use" that protects your right to 
> photograph in a public place, gives them cover as long as your 
> appearance is fairly anonymous.
>
> If you appear fleetingly in some scene showing pedestrians, gawkers or 
> bystanders of any sort in the background, but are not singled out or 
> prominently featured in any way, they don't need a release.
>
> If they zoomed in on your face for a closeup, then they would.
>
> Also, if they caught any part of your argument with the ass producer and 
> wanted to use THAT, they'd have to get a release.
>
> I'm in some B-movie filmed here in NC in the 80s. They used a newly 
> opened section of I-40 near Wilmington, NC for filming.
>
> It was open for about a week, then closed again - and they DIDN'T put up 
> a sign about it being used as a movie set. It was open the day before 
> when I drove down, and closed when I was going back home the next day.
>
> I ignored the barricade, and drove on through. And I thought I wasn't 
> the only one, because it looked like normal traffic on the highway.
>
> Next thing I know, some asshole in a hopped up car comes flying past me 
> and dozens of police cars chasing him.
>
> A few minutes later, I see them all heading down the other side, going 
> the other way ???
>
> Then, here they all come back past me again ... W.T.F. is going on here?
>
> Finally, I go under an overpass, and there's a film crew on the 
> embankment with the director, and all the hangers on, and a camera 
> mounted on a hydraulic boom capturing the whole thing ... and some guy 
> yelling "KEEP MOVING, KEEP MOVING!"
>
> Which I did.  ;-D
>
> A friend who saw the movie said there was a big blue Chevy van like mine 
> in a chase scene.
>
> So, I don't think they need a release.
>
>   


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Re: OT Sounds like a new HHGTTG added to the trilogy

[P. J. Alling]

Not my Vivitar S1 90-180, if anything it's under appreciated...

Bob Blakely wrote:
> All cult classics are overated...
>
> Folks who don't trim the crap from the bottom of their posts annoy me.
>
> Regards
> Bob...
> ---
> "I don't mind if you don't like my manners.
> I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad.
> I grieve over them long winter evenings."
>   -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart)
>
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> I quite liked it. I just think it's over-rated.
>>
>> Bob 
>>
>> 
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>
>>> Only people who don't like the book, don't like it 
>>>
>>> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 3:10:39 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> BW> Hitchhikers' Guide To The Galaxy. A much over-rated book.
>>>
>>>   
> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
>
> Dave:  I have no idea what HHGTTG stands for, Dave.  Cheers,
>   
>>> BW> Christine
>>>   
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> Just watching local news channel CP24, which has ticker stories
>> running at the bottom
>> of the screen. One said a children;s author, name i forget, i'm
>> waiting for the ticker to come round again,
>> is penning the next chapter in the HHGTTG series.
>>
>> Were's Doug when we need him.:-0
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[P. J. Alling]

John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home 
>> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along 
>> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a 
>> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of 
>> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks 
>> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy 
>> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me 
>> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I 
>> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain, 
>> except to repeat his original statement.  
>> 
>
>
> I wouldn't even have asked. I'd have told him to get da f*&^ out of my 
> way or go to jail.
>
> If he didn't move toot sweet, I'd have called the cops myself right then 
> & there to have him hauled up on an assault charge.
>
> And I WOULD swear out the warrant for the assault.
>   
Geez John, tell us how your really feel...

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Re: K20D ISO1600 with ufraw v0.14 cvs wavelet denoising

[P. J. Alling]

When I try to open your lens data base the message received is this

> This XML file does not appear to have any style information 
> associated with it. The document tree is shown below.

Roman Melihhov wrote:
> http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/1024x-kadriorg82481541.jpg
>
> ^^^ here, ISO 1600 RAW converted with ufraw and v0.14 CVS release and 
> wavelet denoising. That  ufraw version 0.14 also has lensfun (lense 
> correction for geometry, vignetting and TCA). Why I like ufraw again is 
> that unlike Pentax Photo Lab 3.50 I have all of my lenses tested and 
> added to lense XML database thats easy to edit and update. I don't need 
> to manually change settings every RAW image I convert. Simply chose from 
> the database ranging DA 10-17mm -- DA* 300mm and a bunch of FA lenses. 
> My lense database on my public domain if interested:
>
> http://roman.blakout.net/cache/slr-pentax.xml
>
> Update your lense database as provided by lensfun manpages.
>
> One,
>
>
>
>   


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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[P. J. Alling]

Ann, you were indoors in a controlled environment.  Outdoors it's a 
different matter.  As a former, (very former), member of the working 
press, I know just what that difference is and I really don't care what 
a Jr. Assistant Adjunct Producer thinks.  (I used to much more tactful 
when I actually worked for an actual Newspaper though, then I would have 
tried honey, in this case I used acid).  By the way, being inside 
wouldn't have stopped me from trying to take the pictures, I would just 
have been more contrite if told not to.

ann sanfedele wrote:
> Peter --
> About a year ago I went to a reading of a play written by a friend -- 
> all the readers, except one, were members of
> Actors Equity and doing the gig for free  I was snapping away making 
> a little gallery for my friend the writer...
> I posted the photos adn sent the writer the link -- I think I may also 
> have shown it to the list or at least to some
> mutual friends... writer write me that this was, apparently, taboo 
>  taking photos of pro actors during a performance
> was a major nono --- of course, everyone saw I was taking them and I 
> certainly would have stopped if someone had
> asked I didn't want my friend to get into trouble so I've hidden the 
> gallery - and I gave him a printout...
>
> I think it is one thing to grab shots of actors hanging out around the 
> set, etc, and another to shoot stuff that
> would be in the film  - just a guess...  
>
> It's annoying,aint it?
>
> ann
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>   
>> Part of todays adventure.  A low budget movie is shooting in my home 
>> town blocking traffic on half of main street.  I was walking along 
>> minding my own business, but actually armed with my trust *ist-Ds and a 
>> collection of appropriate lenses), when I decided I'd take a couple of 
>> pictures to commemorate the event, (and maybe make a couple of bucks 
>> selling the images to one of the local fish wraps), when I this scruffy 
>> individual rushes at  me from the "company" and confronts me to tell me 
>> that I can't take any photos for, and I quote "legal reasons".  When I 
>> asked him what I was doing wrong, he was a a loss except to explain, 
>> except to repeat his original statement.  When I pointed out that the 
>> "set" was on a public road and within full view of the public, with no 
>> expectation of privacy, and that I was allowed to take photographs of 
>> anything I wished under those circumstances, his new tack was to claim 
>> that I couldn't use them for anything.  I then pointed out that under 
>> fair use I could use them for non-commercial purposes which included 
>> selling them and my story to a newspaper, or printing them large and 
>> selling them as art.  Which left him gasping for breath, (sort of like a 
>> large trout), at which point he went back to his original argument.  I 
>> also found it interesting that they had posted a sign that stated in 
>> part the, "... passing beyond this point, indicates your assent to being 
>> in the movie...", which is patently false...  Where do they find these 
>> people, and what idiot is giving them legal advice?  He managed to make 
>> me furious as well.  I'm thinking of going back tomorrow just to piss 
>> them off.
>>
>> Lousy photographs to follow.
>>
>>  
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   


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Re: From Ike's path

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Howdy, y'all!
> [*]
>
> Just in case you are curious what was there originally:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=866111

Yeah, but maybe ~this one~ is the photoshopped sign and the "porn"
sign is the ~real~ one!!

;-)

cheers,
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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[Cory Waters]

New desktop on my work PC.  :)
CW

Ken Waller wrote:
> Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> More from my recent U P week.
>
> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
>
> Coments appreciated
> Thanks in advance for looking
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
>   
> 
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
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Re: Samsung Xenogon D 35mm f2.0 lense anyone?

[John Sessoms]

From: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Thibouille wrote:
>> > It IS indeed a FA35/2 with Samsung badge on it and manufactured by
>> > Pentax (both Samsung lenses ans bodies are still manufactured by
>> > Pentax).
>> >   
> Hmmm. The Schneider-Kreuznach (a.k.a. Jos. Schneider Optische Werke) 
> website seems to indicate that the Samsung cameras have actual Schneider 
> optics, but maybe it's just make-believe? Some of the zoom lenses to not 
> appear to have exact Pentax equivalents, though...
> 
> And yes, contrary to what some people seem to think, Scheider still 
> exists as an actual company - it's not just an old brand name that 
> others stick on their equipment (unlike some others in the photo industry.)

Samsung the conglomerate owns Schneider I think. I saw something about 
it when Pentax & Samsung first announced their joint development deal 
for sensors back when Sony had everyone by the balls & was squeezing 
everything they could out of it.

I remember a reference to Samsung bringing their own optical experience 
to the table through their Schneider subsidiary in addition to their 
background in chip making.

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Re: PESO - Patiently Waiting

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:
> I don't know why, but I like this one.  Yes, it's grainy (I guess that
> should be "noisy"), not all that sharp, I'm sure you can pick out
> other problems, but I like it anyway.  ;-)  Hopefully you do, too:
> 
> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/patiently-waiting-in-davisville-yards.html
> 
> Maybe it's because I like subways.  Anyway, comments are always welcome.

Cool photo, Frank.
Next time you're down this way (or I'm up there), remind me to show you 
how to use the Curves tool in Photoshop. That would help give this shot 
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Re: PESO - The Standoff

[John Francis]

"Grumpy Old Men"  

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 09:22:11PM +0100, Cotty wrote:
> On 17/9/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Yes, I know of the Odd Couple, but there's another one--old men something,
> >more recent.  I was a huge fan of the original movie & the tv series--yes,
> >very brilliant, but I'm think of that recent one.  :-)  Cheers, Christine
> 
> Aaaah. Don't known it.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
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Rubiks' Cubes (assorted)

[John Francis]

Here's a selection of Rubik's cubes:

http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/rubiks.jpg

The one in the front is easy enough even for Cotty :-)

The others are all the ones that are "interesting" from a
mathematical standpoint.  Larger cubes offer no additional
challenge - if you can solve a 5x5x5 you can solve any size.

Note that on the 4x4x4 cube I've added modifications to
differentate the four inner cubelets on each face.  This
doesn't really make it any harder to solve; it just means
the solution takes a little longer.
It would be possible to modify a 5x5x5 in the same way, but
I haven't bothered to do that (and I only have one 5x5x5).


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Re: PESO - The Standoff

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 18, 2008, at 16:54, John Francis wrote:

>
> "Grumpy Old Men"  
>

Filmed in scenic Wabasha, MN - just south of where I live.  FYI.

Great motorcycle-riding country - when it's not covered in snow!


> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 09:22:11PM +0100, Cotty wrote:
>> On 17/9/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> Yes, I know of the Odd Couple, but there's another one--old men  
>>> something,
>>> more recent.  I was a huge fan of the original movie & the tv  
>>> series--yes,
>>> very brilliant, but I'm think of that recent one.  :-)  Cheers,  
>>> Christine
>>
>> Aaaah. Don't known it.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Cotty
>>

  -Charles

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> NX2 is both a dedicated RAW converter for Nikon users and a
> non-destructive JPEG and TIFF editor. It's not something I'd recommend
> unless you primarily use Nikons, but if you do its quite capable of
> functioning as a primary editor after the conversion stage for any
> other files. And its selective editing capabilities are far beyond
> LR2's.

...
> ...I can't compare to LR2 as I don't have enough experience with the  
> latter...


If you're not particularly familiar with LR2 as you stated, how can  
you assert that? And if it can't do everything that Photoshop can do,  
why would one have both? Unless you were dealing with Nikon RAW files  
specifically, of course. I do occasionally need Photoshop for some  
kinds of work that I haven't seen *any* other software do efficiently.

But if you like NX2 and it works for you, your life is good. :-)

G


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Re: PESO - Patiently Waiting

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Cool photo...your a train fan too!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know why, but I like this one.  Yes, it's grainy (I guess that
> should be "noisy"), not all that sharp, I'm sure you can pick out
> other problems, but I like it anyway.  ;-)  Hopefully you do, too:
>
> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/patiently-waiting-in-davisville-yards.html
>
> Maybe it's because I like subways.  Anyway, comments are always welcome.
>
> thanks,
> frank
>
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OT: Harden up...

[Bob W]

...you Republican wusses. Be tough and like fearless like us macho
liberals:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7623256.stm

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Re: Weddings and such.

[John Sessoms]

From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> > There's some pretty serious moonshine operations out there. Places with
>> > virtual private armies where the police don't even like to go. Dealing
>> > in moonshine and North Carolina's second biggest cash crop (after
>> > tobacco, of course) - marijuana.
> 
> I still can't get over smoking in restaurants in North Carolina.  I
> guess you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you, but still...
> 
> Mind you, I noticed the smoke as I peered through the steam rising off
> my plate of biscuits and gravy (something we don't have in The Great
> White North, I'm afraid).  Man they tasted good!  I suspect, however
> that a steady diet of those things would clog the arteries in about
> six months (although one young lady was telling us that she had them
> every single morning, and she seemed quite healthy...).

Most restaurants around here (Raleigh, NC) do not allow smoking. The few 
that still do have a separate section.

Tobacco is still the number one money crop in NC, but it's dying out. 
The quasi-federal organization that used to control Tobacco production 
is no more, and more of today's tobacco is imported from overseas. North 
Carolina farmers can't compete with cheap third world production.

Nor is Marijuana second. That honor goes to peanuts & soybeans depending 
on who has the better harvest in any given year. Most of North 
Carolina's peanut and soybean production is used for oil production.

And NON-crop farm products - hogs, turkeys & chicken all out-strip 
peanuts & soybeans, so marijuana comes in sixth or seventh place. And 
that's only because a very little bit of pot sells for a whole lot of 
money.

Tobacco got to be top cash crop selling $1.60 to $2.00 per pound to the 
farmer. You could produce 2500 pounds per acre in a good year. Tobacco 
costs about $1.50 a pound to produce no matter what kind of year it is, 
so when prices were low farmers didn't do so good.

The average NC farmer had a crop allotment of 50 - 75 acres for tobacco 
on maybe a 100 - 200 acre farm. The allotment was all the tobacco the 
farmer was permitted to plant, and would allow him to sell a certain 
number of pounds per acre, based on the previous year's crop. So, if he 
had a good year, and got better than expected yield, he had excess 
tobacco he couldn't sell, had to carry over to another year AND saw his 
poundage cut back the next year. Plus, he had to store the unsold 
tobacco where it wouldn't rot.

Fifty acres @ 2500 pounds of $1.90/pound leaf gives an income of about 
$56,000 after paying the production loans, and that's BEFORE taxes. That 
paid the bills. Soybeans & peanuts ... corn for animal feed gave a 
little fall-back for the years when tobacco didn't do so good.

It's not easy work either.

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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[keith_w]

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Not entirely true, I have a friend who's the legal mind behind a local 
> studio.  His opinion is that releases are necessary.  You never know 
> when someone is going to be a b*d.


If it's outside, in the open, I.E. exposed to the public, it's your legal 
friend 
who's full of it!

Bastard or not, he's wrong.

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RE: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Bob W]

 
Flash photography is not allowed on the London Underground, and there
are signs all over saying so. When people take flash photos on the
platforms they are told off by a public announcement read by Stern
Father Voice (the same chap who often asks Inspector Sands to report
to the Control Room).

There are good reasons for it being disallowed, amongst which are that
people are a bit nervous about bombs on the tube; it is also
apparently very dazzling for the train drivers.

Non-flash photography is ok though.

Bob

> Last time something like that happened to me I was on a subway
> platform with camera poised - aimed at an incoming train, not at
> people.
> 
> A security guard approached me and told me that taking photographs
was
> prohibited by TTC (Toronto Transit Commission) regulation 16.  I
> rather took him by surprise when I replied that I was aware that
> regulation 16B prohibited the taking of photographs "for commercial
> purposes" without express written permission of the TTC.  (the
> regulations, which have been incorporated into a City Bylaw are
posted
> near a door on each subway car - and I'd read 'em!)
> 
> I patiently told him that I'd never sold a photo taken in the subway
> system and didn't intend to sell what I was taking that day, so in
> fact I had the right to shoot.
> 
> He said it made passengers feel uncomfortable to see a guy with a
> camera and asked again nicely if I could stop shooting.  Deciding
that
> (a) he was being nice about it, and (b) he had a gun and I didn't,
and
> (c) in fact I was on private property (okay, it was quasi-public,
but
> that's another discussion for another day) and he could in fact hand
> me a Notice under the Trespass Act and boot me off the premises for
no
> good reason whatsoever, I chose to save my fight for another day.
> 
> I smiled and said, "Okay, look, I'm putting my lenscap on and
turning
> off the camera. I certainly don't want to offend anyone or make them
> feel uncomfortable.  Thanks!"  And that was that.
> 
> So that's my story.
> 
> I like your stoy, though.  I'll join the swelling chorus and suggest
> you take a photo-walk again, in the same area, tomorrow.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But if you like NX2 and it works for you, your life is good. :-)

I'm stilled PO'd at Nikon for charging for the program. I would have
thought after buying several plus 5K cameras, they would toss that in.

Maybe they do now, not sure.

Dave
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Re: Pentax service question...

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've had very good experiences with Pentax Service in the past. It's
> just this one time.
>
Other than not returining phone calls, same as Nikons service, the
Toronto group has been pretty good, so far.

Fixed my FA 70-210 after i had a huge fall on a dock a few years ago,
I thought it was toast, but they saved it.

Took several tries at the K10D and DA F 50 but they got it. I only
spent $36 on postage :-)

I just wish these places would return calls. I'm sure they are busy,
and so was i when i was in an office environ, but if i failed to
return a call the day it was recieved, i heard about it.

Dave
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Re: Rubiks' Cubes (assorted)

[Cotty]

On 18/9/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's a selection of Rubik's cubes:
>
>http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/rubiks.jpg
>
>The one in the front is easy enough even for Cotty :-)




I would dispute that. Here is one I can *just about* cope with, but not
for long:




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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[Cotty]

On 18/9/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Non-flash photography is ok though.

Java snaplets?

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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> NX2 is both a dedicated RAW converter for Nikon users and a
>> non-destructive JPEG and TIFF editor. It's not something I'd recommend
>> unless you primarily use Nikons, but if you do its quite capable of
>> functioning as a primary editor after the conversion stage for any
>> other files. And its selective editing capabilities are far beyond
>> LR2's.
>
> ...
>> ...I can't compare to LR2 as I don't have enough experience with the
>> latter...
>
>
> If you're not particularly familiar with LR2 as you stated, how can
> you assert that? And if it can't do everything that Photoshop can do,
> why would one have both? Unless you were dealing with Nikon RAW files
> specifically, of course. I do occasionally need Photoshop for some
> kinds of work that I haven't seen *any* other software do efficiently.
>
> But if you like NX2 and it works for you, your life is good. :-)
>
> G
>

I've used LR2 enough to get a good idea of the how capable the
selective editing controls were (A very nice upgrade over LR1, but not
nearly as capable as NX2 or PS). I didn't compare the high ISO NR when
I was doing so.

While CaptureNX2 can't do many things PS can do, it can do some very
interesting things with selective editing that PS can't do unless you
buy one of the Nik plugins (which cost more than NX2 does). Nik's
Control Point system is very, very Nifty and makes a number of
selective edits far less painful than they would be with layer masks
or lassos.

I still have to use PS for some things, most notably the clone stamp.
(I am in fact using CaptureNX, not NX2, but David would need NX2 as NX
doesn't support the D700 which is why I'm discussing NX2 rather than
NX). But I've found myself using NX for most of my general editing of
film scans and such after prepping the files in PS. At some point soon
I'll be upgrading to NX2, I've only held off due to Nikon's poor
upgrade pricing (the upgrade is only very slightly cheaper than the
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Re: Photographer harassed by unidentified Ass. Producer.

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:59 PM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> He said it made passengers feel uncomfortable to see a guy with a
> camera and asked again nicely if I could stop shooting.  Deciding that
> (a) he was being nice about it, and (b) he had a gun and I didn't,

They use 38's, you could have out ran that thing.

Dave



 and
> (c) in fact I was on private property (okay, it was quasi-public, but
> that's another discussion for another day) and he could in fact hand
> me a Notice under the Trespass Act and boot me off the premises for no
> good reason whatsoever, I chose to save my fight for another day.
>
> I smiled and said, "Okay, look, I'm putting my lenscap on and turning
> off the camera. I certainly don't want to offend anyone or make them
> feel uncomfortable.  Thanks!"  And that was that.
>
> So that's my story.
>
> I like your stoy, though.  I'll join the swelling chorus and suggest
> you take a photo-walk again, in the same area, tomorrow.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:39 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> But if you like NX2 and it works for you, your life is good. :-)
>
> I'm stilled PO'd at Nikon for charging for the program. I would have
> thought after buying several plus 5K cameras, they would toss that in.
>
> Maybe they do now, not sure.
>
> Dave

They did for the D3/D300 launch, which is how I got my copy, I would
have stayed with Capture One 4 otherwise (which is what I switched to
after comparing it to LR 1.4.1 with the K10D)

Having used NX extensively for the last 7 months, I understand Nikon's
take on it, it's not just a RAW converter like Canon's DPP or Pentax
Photo Lab, but a full-on editing environment that can almost replace
PS for a photographer. However Nikon should either release a pure RAW
converter and bundle it for free or bit the bullet on the higher-end
bodies and include NX2 in the bundle.

-Adam

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Re: Rubiks' Cubes (assorted)

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18/9/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Here's a selection of Rubik's cubes:
>>
>>http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/rubiks.jpg
>>
>>The one in the front is easy enough even for Cotty :-)
>
>
>
>
> I would dispute that. Here is one I can *just about* cope with, but not
> for long:
>
> 

The red should be on the bottom.

Dave
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Re: OT GESO (no Pentax content)

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:39 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> But if you like NX2 and it works for you, your life is good. :-)
>>
>> I'm stilled PO'd at Nikon for charging for the program. I would have
>> thought after buying several plus 5K cameras, they would toss that in.
>>
>> Maybe they do now, not sure.
>>
>> Dave
>
> They did for the D3/D300 launch, which is how I got my copy, I would
> have stayed with Capture One 4 otherwise (which is what I switched to
> after comparing it to LR 1.4.1 with the K10D)
>
> Having used NX extensively for the last 7 months, I understand Nikon's
> take on it, it's not just a RAW converter like Canon's DPP or Pentax
> Photo Lab, but a full-on editing environment that can almost replace
> PS for a photographer. However Nikon should either release a pure RAW
> converter and bundle it for free or bit the bullet on the higher-end
> bodies and include NX2 in the bundle.

Makes sense to me.:-)

Being torn between the D300 and D700 sucks though.:-0

Dave
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