Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[Larry Colen]

On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 07:02:59PM -0500, frank theriault wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:55 PM, David Savage  wrote:
> > In the art world it's not fat, it's Rubenesque.
> 
> That term is quite misleading, as Ruben was actually very slim...

Peter Paul Ruben, not Paul Reubens.

> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[Larry Colen]

On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 11:23:17AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Desjardins, Steve"
> Subject: RE: October PUG and 2010 themes
> 
> 
> >Artistic Nudes?  Great! I've always wanted to use those mirror shots.
> >
> 

> An entire gallery of pdgy middle aged men using their cameras as a fig leaf.
> And one skinny guy stuffed artfully into a mail box.

Mark!

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Re: Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3

[Jim King]

John Sessoms wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:10:41 -0800

Thought I'd open this in a fresh thread specifically about batteries  
for earlier Pentax DSLRs.
I got an idea from the discussion of NiMH and Lithium AA batteries  
in the other thread, and wanted to follow up on it.
There are no Lithium Ion AA batteries, but the *ist-D can also use  
CR-V3 batteries and those ARE available as Litium Ion rechargeables.  
Plus, they're 3V(+) rather than the 2.5V(-) you get with a pair of  
NiMH AAs.
Has anyone used these? The only drawback I foresee is there doesn't  
seem to be a charger that can do 2 of these at once.
Even better would be a charger that could do 4 at once, since the  
*ist-D/BG-1 takes 4 of them is you load it with CR-V3s.


John, I've used several sets of Delkin rechargeable CR-3Vs in my *ist- 
D and grip with no problems other than a relatively low number of  
shots per charge (150-250).  I found the focusing to be snappier than  
with NiMH rechargeables.  When the alarms went out about excessive  
voltage I measured mine and found them to run about 3.5 volts, higher  
than the Pentax spec for the *ist-D, but as I said, I had no  
problems.  Battery reliability was not great - several batteries  
failed over the years.


I no longer use my *ist-D regularly so I've changed to the non- 
rechargeable CR-V3 batteries, which seem to have a very long shelf life.


Regards, Jim

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2010 themes suggestions.

[Bran Everseeking]

Signs - 

Street

Snapshot/vernacular

Series

need to break that lisping series

Water


that's it for my ideas

Bran

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for Rick Womer

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Rick:  The other day I saw this scene, and I thought that's a picture 
Rick Womer would make, so I made it for you in appreciation of your 
propensity to photograph the artifacts of quiet human industry and 
pleasure--the wellies, the flower boxes, the facades of home and hearth--all 
those simple little pleasures in life.  Cheers, Christine



http://tinyurl.com/ygseyf9

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/rick/content/20091107__IGP5696_large.html 




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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Christine Aguila]

Brian, I have to say I like it as is--it's bold and dramatic.  Love it! 
Cheers, Christine



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From: "Brian Walters" 

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Subject: PESO - Cheynes IV



G'day all

I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is divided
diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not sure overall

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html


Comments appreciated.

Cheers

Brian

PS:  'Cheynes IV' is the name of the ship - you can almost, but not
quite, make out the name on the hull.

PPS.  Why does Pentax Photo Browser identify this Sigma 18-125 mm lens
as an F 28-80 mm f3.5-4.4 ?



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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Ann.  I thought Ken's was great fun as well.  He caught everything 
just right.  Love the expression on the dog in the back seat.  Angle really 
works as well.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: October PUG and 2010 themes


I love it when that happens!  I have to tell you, if I didn't earlier , 
That I recognized that shot as being yours from the thumbnails
in the index... after seeing I was correct , I played that game a bit - 
got some right some wrong...


I havent' settled in to look at them all carefully  -  on my to do list, 
but
I loved Ken's snap particularly , too - so unlike his usual stuff but 
right on the money

theme wise and such fun> Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.  It was a really lucky shot--the moment went something 
like this:

"Auntie Steen*, take a picture of me standing on my head"
"Ok." (I snap the shutter)
"Auntie Steen, now take a picture of me doing a summersault."
"ok."  (I snap the shutter--wondering how many more of these am I going 
to have to take?)

"Auntie Steen, take a picture of me jumping off the foot-rest."
"ok"  (I snap the shutter)

Then later, when looking at the last one--that is, *Showing off for the 
Lady*-- I shout at the monitor, "Bloody hell, what a lucky grab."


Cheers, Christine

*short for Auntie Christine




- Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" 


To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: October PUG and 2010 themes



Scott Loveless wrote:


Sorry for the delay.  http://pug.komkon.org/



Quite a varied gallery!  All interesting shots and I especially liked 
...


Ken's Backseat Driver
Ira's White Sands
Christine's Showing off
Paul's Walk on By
Graydon's Help Window


Looking forward to the November gallery.  Thanks, Scott!

-bmw

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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Smith" 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:03 AM
Subject: RE: October PUG and 2010 themes



Scott Loveless wrote:


Sorry for the delay.  http://pug.komkon.org/


Another great gallery. My favourite equal three were Chief Captain by
Eckehard Wegner; My First Pose by David Brooks and Showing Off by 
Christine

Aquila.



Thanks, Malcolm!  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[Christine Aguila]

Good story and a good set of photos, Larry.  Very interesting photos indeed. 
Nice work.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:24 AM
Subject: But what are you taking pictures for?



I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by
1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull
over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil,
I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone
pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my
eye.

It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just
finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had
stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the
seat assured him of that.  He was, however, utterly perplexed at what
someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere,
taking pictures. The phrase "But what are you taking pictures *for*?"
kept coming up.

I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty?
Nope.
Do you paint?
Nope.
Make music?
Nope.

Would you like to see them?
OK.

We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I
put one of the shots on the display.

"Cool!"

I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to
14, I still have some work to do:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/

Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which
I've cropped out in a couple of them:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/



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PESO - Row, Row, Row Your Boat

[Rick Womer]

Another from Miami Beach, taken during a nocturnal walk along the canal.  By my 
pacing measurement, this modest craft was 75 ft (20 m) long.  There were 
several of similar size moored along the canal; most of them were either for 
charter or for sale.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10164514&size=lg

(K10D, FA 50/1.7)

Rick


  


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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Doug Franklin]

frank theriault wrote:


Is that French for "pretentious pap"?


No, it's French for "French". :-)  Or French Canadian in a pinch. ;-)

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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[Michael Beacom]

On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:

Desjardins, Steve wrote:


In theory I guess you could also make an interchangeable sensor  
with a lens mount on it.  Or someone else could.




Two words:
Cotty
Hacksaw


You meant three words, you forgot Oxyacetylene Torch...


Measures with a micrometer,
Marks with chalk,
Cuts with Torch

That's Our Cotty!

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October Pug. Period :-)

[ann sanfedele]

Alright I guses I better pick...
I think this was really a fun and interesting gallery...

My personal faves:

Christine's leaping kid , John Coyle's shanty, Ken's doggie in the 
backseat , Graydon's
store window (no one on the list for a spell should be surprised - 
Graydon.. have I got a book for you !) Thrain's road signs, Mark's 
Gnome, and Ted Beilby's aquarium shot, which in my eyes really fits the 
category... it reminds me of , um, Stephen Shore's stuff, kinda - well 
for me it just plain works without being forced.



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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[eckinator]

2009/11/11 Scott Loveless :
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, eckinator  wrote:
>> 2009/11/11 Scott Loveless :
>>>
>>> Curry get back to talking about photos?
>>
>> Trying to burn the thread Scott? =)
>
> I rectum so.

What a bummer... I know you quit but you should bum a butt and set it
on fire ]=)

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Re: OT- Future National Geographic Photographers conical the Great War in Color.

[P. J. Alling]

Most histories of the Great War point out that the Germans  picked their 
defense lines with care attempting to always site them on ridge lines, 
being initially the aggressor, they could choose where they wished to 
fall back to.  The Allies, who were trying to remove the Germans from 
France and Belgium, were forced to put their lines where they opposed 
the Germans, which lo and behold as the Germans chose the ground ended 
up being in lowlands.  The Germans also built drains to allow standing 
water to escape, where possible, towards the allied lines, and used 
pumps for the same purpose where necessary. 


frank theriault wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
  

Not a lot of Color Photography of WWII let alone WWI

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-37025.html



Either the Germans were very good housekeepers or we're not seeing
~all~ of the German trenches.  B&W images of Allied trenches seem
overwhelmingly to feature mud, muck and mire.  The German trenches
also seem to have much more wooden shoring than photos that I've seen
of Allied trenches.

A very interesting set of photos, and very timely posting on your part.  Thanks.

cheers,
frank


  



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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[Scott Loveless]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:14 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2009/11/11 Scott Loveless :
>>
>> Curry get back to talking about photos?
>
> Trying to burn the thread Scott? =)

I rectum so.

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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[David J Brooks]

Interesting composition. Love the cure here, and the addition of the
depth marks.

Dave

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is divided
> diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not sure overall
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html
>
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> PS:  'Cheynes IV' is the name of the ship - you can almost, but not
> quite, make out the name on the hull.
>
> PPS.  Why does Pentax Photo Browser identify this Sigma 18-125 mm lens
> as an F 28-80 mm f3.5-4.4 ?
>
>
>
> ++
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Re: OT PESO - Gaze

[David J Brooks]

Like it.

Well done

Dave

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:41 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day Folks,
>
> For your consideration:
>
> 
>
> Direct link (~kb)
>
> 
>
> D700, 14-24mm f2.8 @ 23mm, f4.8 @ 1/350, ISO 400. rendered in LR.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> ..or not.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO - Spadina and Dundas

[David J Brooks]

This works really well Frank.
Slow walking lady against the motion blur of Toronto.

Nice

Dave

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Why I like rangefinders:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/spadina-and-dundas.html
>
> I just wish that guy wasn't sticking out of her back, but other than
> that it's pretty much what I'd hoped for.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[eckinator]

2009/11/11 frank theriault :
>
> Thanks for the kind words.

you're most welcome

> FWIW, I was thinking "vernacular" as in "...any medium or mode of
> expression that reflects popular taste or indigenous styles."  North
> American automotive design in the late fifties (particularly tailfins)
> falls into that definition, IMHO.

I wasn't aware of that aspect, or hadn't weighed it as heavily - I
think that in retrospect my thinking of vernacular got hung up on
"Vernacular photographs are types of accidental art, in that they
often are unintentionally artistic." so that affected both my choice
and my judgement. By your rationale, I have a fave six.

Cheers
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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[aggrivated]

OK so I can't count, that's four words...

P. J. Alling wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:

Desjardins, Steve wrote:

 
In theory I guess you could also make an interchangeable sensor with 
a lens mount on it.  Or someone else could.



Two words:
Cotty
Hacksaw
  

You meant three words, you forgot Oxyacetylene Torch...

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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>>...But it's certainly not for me.
>
> I think it might be for me.
>
> I'd get just one fast prime and leave it at that. I think most people
> will get just one lens. I look at this as not an interchangeable-lens
> camera but at a customizable-fixed-lens camera.

I'd just as rather buy a Panasonic GF1, Olympus E-P2 for fully
interchangeable lenses and pick a lens I liked if I only wanted a one
lens camera of this type. Or just buy a Leica X1.
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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

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2009/11/11 Scott Loveless :
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> Curry get back to talking about photos?

Trying to burn the thread Scott? =)

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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[Scott Loveless]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Anthony Farr  wrote:
>> As a flaming asshole myself, I recognize an asshole when I am subjected to
>> one.
>
> Cuitting back on the jalapeno peppers will give some relief in that region.

Curry get back to talking about photos?

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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:48 PM, eckinator  wrote:

> I also very much liked
> Court Street Station by Ann Sanfedele
> Excess by Frank Theriault
> but they lack vernacularity to a point ]=)


Thanks for the kind words.

FWIW, I was thinking "vernacular" as in "...any medium or mode of
expression that reflects popular taste or indigenous styles."  North
American automotive design in the late fifties (particularly tailfins)
falls into that definition, IMHO.

Of course, you may disagree...

;-)

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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[eckinator]

Thanks a bunch Malcolm, first of all =)

My fave four are (in unspecified order)
What? by Michael Bergstrom
Gran Old Age by Bran Everseeking
White Sands Expression by Ira Bryant
Backseat Driver by Ken waller

I also very much liked
Court Street Station by Ann Sanfedele
Excess by Frank Theriault
but they lack vernacularity to a point ]=)

Well done, everyone, it was a PUG to behold as always

Cheers
Ecke

2009/11/10 Malcolm Smith :
>  Scott Loveless wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the delay.  http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> Another great gallery. My favourite equal three were Chief Captain by
> Eckehard Wegner; My First Pose by David Brooks and Showing Off by Christine
> Aquila.
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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> http://www.vimeo.com/7484260

No, but some French guy with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth and
smoke in his face thinks it's "sublime".

Is that French for "pretentious pap"?

;-)

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Re: Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Dragan Grasic"

Subject: Re: Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?



Is anyone in this group actually using the K-x?



No. Like the Great Rockwell, we don't actually need to use a piece of 
equipment to pass judgement on it.


William Robb 



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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[Anthony Farr]

> As a flaming asshole myself, I recognize an asshole when I am subjected to
> one.

Cuitting back on the jalapeno peppers will give some relief in that region.

:-)

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
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2009/11/8 William Robb :
>
> - Original Message - From: "DagT"
> Subject: Re: October PUG and 2010 themes
>
>
>
>
> Frankly, I don´t find your posts very family friendly. You should have
> put a warning in the subject field because I would not like my
> children to see that grownups (?) use that kind of language.
>
>
> But is there potential for your kids to go to jail for reading them?
> The bottom line her Dag is that you were asked, quite politely, by several
> members here to tag your posts with a nudity warning if clicking the link
> would take them to a picture of a naked child.
> You were told that in North America there was a very real possibility that
> what you were posting could be misconstrued as child porn and that we wanted
> a fair warning about what we were clicking on.
> Your response, and this is a direct quote:
>
> "The responsibility is on your side, and as you never can know what is in
> the other end of an
> internet link you have to be extremely careful."
>
> I believe things devolved after you posted that bit of stupidity.
> As a flaming asshole myself, I recognize an asshole when I am subjected to
> one.
> The difference between us as far as this goes is that I have the good
> manners to warn people of offensive content if they sensitize me to their
> needs.
>
> If you don't want your kids offended by strong language, perhaps try to be a
> better person.
> Until then, I stand by my opinion of you.
>
> regards
>
> William Robb
>

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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/9/2009 11:22:54 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
I asked him if he ever took  pictures just because they were pretty?
Nope.
Do you  paint?
Nope.
Make music?
Nope.

Would you like to see  them?
OK.

We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing  up, and I
put one of the shots on the display.

"Cool!"

I've  narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to
14, I still  have some work to  do:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/

Unfortunately,  there seems to be a bit of dust on the sensor, which
I've cropped out in a  couple of  them:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/

===
Very  nice. Wait until he has grand kids, then he'll pick up a camera.

Marnie  aka Doe ;-)

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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[Matthew Hunt]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Bob W  wrote:

>> > Uhm, what are the units on your flaming asshole scale? Scoville?
>>
>> I vote for Scoville Units and the Bristol Stool Scale, added
>> in quadrature.
>
> I wish I hadn't looked at that on Wikipedia.

At least I didn't suggest it as a 2010 PUG theme.

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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:42:36AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote:
> On 11/11/2009, Tom Cakalic  wrote:
> > I'd guess the irony is that she was using a manual film camera in the
> > video, while the video itself, nicely done, was only possible with
> > modern technology and likely a Canon DSLR.
> 
> Yep, she's shooting classic Pentax whilst the movie is being captured
> on Canon DSLR ;-)

They're both using the best equipment from the time it was made.
:)

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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:10:33PM +0100, eckinator wrote:
> 2009/11/10 William Robb :
> >
> > Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene
> > pool
> 
> Guess it still needs a dash of chlorine... ]=)

He actually seemed very nice. Let's face it, there probably aren't a
dozen DSLRs that live within a dozen miles of where I took that
photo. There aren't a lot of people there, and they don't have a lot
of money.  He may have never seen anyone using a camera that could get
pictures  in that light before.

Once I showed him the pictures, he seemed to catch on very quick.


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Re: PESO(2) - View Swinging Bridge/Yosemite Falls

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nice image!

Dan

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Like "Red" much better. Well rendered! Your 'shocking' manual exposure was 
> the answer. Beautiful!
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, eactiv...@aol.com  wrote:
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>> From: eactiv...@aol.com 
>> Subject: PESO(2) - View Swinging Bridge/Yosemite Falls
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:01 AM
>> These were both taken by the Swinging
>> Bridge. I don't know why they call it
>>  that, it doesn't swing. :-)
>>
>> I don't know what the rock in the distance is  called,
>> it's not some weird
>> view of Half Dome. :-) Minimal reflection because
>> there was a sand bar in
>> the center of the  river.
>>
>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pinred.htm
>>
>> I went  off the bridge for this one. My hardest
>> exposure in Yosemite. In
>> the past when I  did reflections there, the rock would
>> blow out and the
>> reflection would be fine.  So I used exposure lock on
>> the rock, spot metering, a
>> bunch of things. Finally I  resorted to a manual
>> exposure . (I normally
>> use AV.)
>>
>> Yosemite  Falls. All the falls had some water, but not
>> lots, it was a dry
>> year.
>>
>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/swing2.htm
>>
>> Comments  welcome.
>>
>> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
>>
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>> thinking we used when we
>> created them. Albert  Einstein
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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Mark Roberts]

Brian Walters wrote:

>G'day all
>
>I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is divided
>diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not sure overall
>
>http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html

*Very* nice. Reminds me of a famous Cunard poster from the 30's.


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Re: Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?

[Dragan Grašič]

Is anyone in this group actually using the K-x?

Okay, there seems to be a battery issue with the K-x, but for me it 
hasn't been the limiting factor to dig deeper into the camera. After I 
turned off the Distortion correction & Lateral chromatic aberration 
correction the camera is just as snappy as K20 (or even a bit more). I 
always shoot in RAW+ with Highlight correction (former D-range) and 
Shadow correction on.


I was expecting much from the high ISO settings and I was not 
disappointed: the results are beyond anything I have seen from Pentax so 
far, noise levels and shadow detail in low light are just about superb. 
So far I have been shooting with the DA 2,8/25mm Limited Macro and DA 
2,4/70mm Limited. Both lenses snap faster and more accurately into focus 
as when they are used on K20.


I deduce that K-x will open up a completely new chapter of available 
light photography for Pentax-shooters...



cheers,
dragan


ps.
I am mostly on lithium power. Just to satisfy my curiosity I tried 
Eneloops and they worked fine. I even tried some semi-dry NiMh piles 
from Sony, first the camera wouldn't power on - I guess this is the 
issue when you change batteries and turn power on instantly. On the 
second try the camera powered on with the battery indicator red. On the 
third try the battery level went orange and the camera worked fine. I 
will report more about the battery issue as I get more mileage.


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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[eckinator]

2009/11/10 William Robb :
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> Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene
> pool

Guess it still needs a dash of chlorine... ]=)

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Re: OT- Future National Geographic Photographers conical the Great War in Color.

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Not a lot of Color Photography of WWII let alone WWI
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-37025.html

Either the Germans were very good housekeepers or we're not seeing
~all~ of the German trenches.  B&W images of Allied trenches seem
overwhelmingly to feature mud, muck and mire.  The German trenches
also seem to have much more wooden shoring than photos that I've seen
of Allied trenches.

A very interesting set of photos, and very timely posting on your part.  Thanks.

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Re: OT - Very Cool Pano

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:45 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> Check out the awesomeness:
>
> 
>
> I think he's reached his bandwidth limit as the link to the zoomable
> version hangs.
>
> Kinda puts my humble effort to shame:
>
> 

You're right, it ~is~ cool.

Very cool.

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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Bruce Walker]

Bob W wrote:

http://www.vimeo.com/7484260

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It's Ken Rockwell in drag. And he's using a Pentax.

Bob


Whoa! If Canon can do that to Kenny, I'm switching systems!

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Re: K10D in low light and magenta concrete

[Rob Studdert]

On 11/11/2009, Rick Womer  wrote:
> It stays magenta; just a slightly different shade; and the WB in the rest of 
> the frame goes all wonky.

I think it's mostly to do with ambient artificial light, I've done
plenty of exposures under moonlight on the sunny setting which had
perfect WB.

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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Rob Studdert]

On 11/11/2009, Tom Cakalic  wrote:
> I'd guess the irony is that she was using a manual film camera in the
> video, while the video itself, nicely done, was only possible with
> modern technology and likely a Canon DSLR.

Yep, she's shooting classic Pentax whilst the movie is being captured
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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is divided
> diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not sure overall
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html

I think it's brilliant.

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RE: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[Bob W]

> 
> > Uhm, what are the units on your flaming asshole scale? Scoville?
> 
> I vote for Scoville Units and the Bristol Stool Scale, added 
> in quadrature.
> 

I wish I hadn't looked at that on Wikipedia.

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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[P. J. Alling]

Mark Roberts wrote:

Desjardins, Steve wrote:

  

In theory I guess you could also make an interchangeable sensor with a lens 
mount on it.  Or someone else could.



Two words:
Cotty
Hacksaw
  

You meant three words, you forgot Oxyacetylene Torch...

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RE: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Bob W]

> 
> http://www.vimeo.com/7484260
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It's Ken Rockwell in drag. And he's using a Pentax.

Bob


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RE: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Bob W]

> G'day all
> 
> I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame is 
> divided diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not 
> sure overall
> 
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html
> 

I like it. I think it would be even better if the line of the hull continued
to the very bottom - otherwise it feels slightly incomplete.

It reminds me of Salgado's shots of the ship-breaking yards in India and
Bangladesh.

Bob


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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[Mark Roberts]

Desjardins, Steve wrote:

>In theory I guess you could also make an interchangeable sensor with a lens 
>mount on it.  Or someone else could.

Two words:
Cotty
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Re: geso my new camera

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 9, 2009, at 23:19, Larry Colen wrote:


I sus;ec that there may be some subtle tone mapping going on, the sky
in these shots is just too well exposed in comparison with the rest of
the frame.



In the full-sized images, I could also see a bit of a "grid" pattern  
on a couple of the images (well, the two I looked at in full-sized  
mode).   Nice detail and exposure, but that grid look would be a  
bummer if it's there all the time.  Anyone else notice that?


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/


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RE: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[Desjardins, Steve]

In theory I guess you could also make an interchangeable sensor with a lens 
mount on it.  Or someone else could.

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>While the notion of a "unit interchangeable" camera like the GXR is
>interesting, technically, I'm not at all interested in it. I can only
>imagine the price of premium lens-sensor units, the difficulties in
>calibration across different lenses, etc.
>
>And, of course, there will be no ability to use anyone else's lenses
>at all. No adaptation of existing FourThirds lenses, Pentax lenses,
>nothing. You use whatever and exactly what "lens unit" offerings the
>manufacturer makes available.
>
>Might be a nice system if it supports exactly what you want. And (for
>US photographers) if Ricoh re-institutes their sales/service/support
>network here that they eliminated almost a decade ago.
>
>But it's certainly not for me.

I think it might be for me.

I'd get just one fast prime and leave it at that. I think most people
will get just one lens. I look at this as not an interchangeable-lens
camera but at a customizable-fixed-lens camera.


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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>While the notion of a "unit interchangeable" camera like the GXR is
>interesting, technically, I'm not at all interested in it. I can only
>imagine the price of premium lens-sensor units, the difficulties in
>calibration across different lenses, etc.
>
>And, of course, there will be no ability to use anyone else's lenses
>at all. No adaptation of existing FourThirds lenses, Pentax lenses,
>nothing. You use whatever and exactly what "lens unit" offerings the
>manufacturer makes available.
>
>Might be a nice system if it supports exactly what you want. And (for
>US photographers) if Ricoh re-institutes their sales/service/support
>network here that they eliminated almost a decade ago.
>
>But it's certainly not for me.

I think it might be for me.

I'd get just one fast prime and leave it at that. I think most people
will get just one lens. I look at this as not an interchangeable-lens
camera but at a customizable-fixed-lens camera.


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RE: But what are you taking pictures for?

[Sandra Hermann]

WOW! 

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--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Bob W  wrote:

> From: Bob W 
> Subject: RE: But what are you taking pictures for?
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 2:37 AM
> Very good 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
> [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net]
> On 
> > Behalf Of Larry Colen
> > Sent: 10 November 2009 07:24
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: But what are you taking pictures for?
> > 
> > I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive
> home, 
> > that by 1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of
> Los Bano 
> > and had to pull over for a nap. After my nap, while I
> was 
> > adding nitrates to the soil, I noticed how cool Orion
> looked 
> > juxtaposed with a telephone pole. After I got some
> frames of 
> > that, a couple other things caught my eye. 
> > 
> > It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the
> road, 
> > just finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked
> next to my 
> > car. He had stopped to make sure that it hadn't been 
> > abandoned. The laptop on the seat assured him of
> that.  He 
> > was, however, utterly perplexed at what someone was
> doing, at 
> > that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere, taking
> 
> > pictures. The phrase "But what are you taking pictures
> *for*?"
> > kept coming up.
> > 
> > I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they
> were pretty?
> > Nope.
> > Do you paint?
> > Nope.
> > Make music?
> > Nope.
> > 
> > Would you like to see them?
> > OK.
> > 
> > We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was
> finishing 
> > up, and I put one of the shots on the display.
> > 
> > "Cool!"
> > 
> > I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that
> session 
> > down to 14, I still have some work to do:
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/
> > 
> > Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of dust on the
> sensor, 
> > which I've cropped out in a couple of them:
> > 
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > The first step is learning to take great photos, the
> second 
> > step is learning to throw away ones that are merely
> good.
> > Larry Colen         
>    ...@red4est.com 
>           
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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

While the notion of a "unit interchangeable" camera like the GXR is
interesting, technically, I'm not at all interested in it. I can only
imagine the price of premium lens-sensor units, the difficulties in
calibration across different lenses, etc.

And, of course, there will be no ability to use anyone else's lenses
at all. No adaptation of existing FourThirds lenses, Pentax lenses,
nothing. You use whatever and exactly what "lens unit" offerings the
manufacturer makes available.

Might be a nice system if it supports exactly what you want. And (for
US photographers) if Ricoh re-institutes their sales/service/support
network here that they eliminated almost a decade ago.

But it's certainly not for me.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:
> Uh, strange solution indeed:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09111001ricohgxr.asp
> I'm not sure I'm thrilled with it.


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Re: Her moment

[P. J. Alling]

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Sandra Hermann

Yeah well you know I could be jelous, she bought her first n just
to have a better camera than I had.  I taught her how to use it, now
she takes pictures and make money with the stupid thing.  She has
even shot at the white house. Blah big sisters what can you do with
them?


I don't know, since I was the oldest.

I do know they won't let you drown the younger ones at birth. ;-D


From experience?


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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[P. J. Alling]

I'd like to apologize for that, I never intended to post to the list 
from this address...


aggrivated wrote:
Just because I forgot to mention it, look at the large light gathering 
sensor!  1:1.7!  Wow!


P. J. Alling wrote:
What do you want to bet that it's actually underpowered for it's 
concept.  Looks like an opportunity to sell lots of expensive 
accessories though...


Desjardins, Steve wrote:
This makes more sense as sensor technology approaches the "good 
enough" limit for entire groups of customers.   I wonder how 
upgradable the lens/sensor unit is?


-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf 
Of Dario Bonazza

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:43 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!


Uh, strange solution indeed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09111001ricohgxr.asp
I'm not sure I'm thrilled with it.
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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[John Francis]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:35:21PM +1100, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> PPS.  Why does Pentax Photo Browser identify this Sigma 18-125 mm lens
> as an F 28-80 mm f3.5-4.4 ?

Because Sigma are too cheap to actually *license* the LensID capability
from Pentax, so they instead copy an ID value from an existing Pentax lens.


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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[ann sanfedele]

I love it when that happens!  
I have to tell you, if I didn't earlier , That I recognized that shot as 
being yours from the thumbnails
in the index... after seeing I was correct , I played that game a bit - 
got some right some wrong...


I havent' settled in to look at them all carefully  -  on my to do list, but
I loved Ken's snap particularly , too - so unlike his usual stuff but 
right on the money

theme wise and such fun... as was yours.

ann

Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.  It was a really lucky shot--the moment went something 
like this:

"Auntie Steen*, take a picture of me standing on my head"
"Ok." (I snap the shutter)
"Auntie Steen, now take a picture of me doing a summersault."
"ok."  (I snap the shutter--wondering how many more of these am I 
going to have to take?)

"Auntie Steen, take a picture of me jumping off the foot-rest."
"ok"  (I snap the shutter)

Then later, when looking at the last one--that is, *Showing off for 
the Lady*-- I shout at the monitor, "Bloody hell, what a lucky grab."


Cheers, Christine

*short for Auntie Christine




- Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" 


To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: October PUG and 2010 themes



Scott Loveless wrote:


Sorry for the delay.  http://pug.komkon.org/



Quite a varied gallery!  All interesting shots and I especially liked 
...


Ken's Backseat Driver
Ira's White Sands
Christine's Showing off
Paul's Walk on By
Graydon's Help Window


Looking forward to the November gallery.  Thanks, Scott!

-bmw

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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[aggrivated]

Just because I forgot to mention it, look at the large light gathering 
sensor!  1:1.7!  Wow!


P. J. Alling wrote:
What do you want to bet that it's actually underpowered for it's 
concept.  Looks like an opportunity to sell lots of expensive 
accessories though...


Desjardins, Steve wrote:
This makes more sense as sensor technology approaches the "good 
enough" limit for entire groups of customers.   I wonder how 
upgradable the lens/sensor unit is?


-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf 
Of Dario Bonazza

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:43 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!


Uh, strange solution indeed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09111001ricohgxr.asp
I'm not sure I'm thrilled with it.
Dario




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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Tom Cakalic]

I'd guess the irony is that she was using a manual film camera in the
video, while the video itself, nicely done, was only possible with
modern technology and likely a Canon DSLR.

Tom

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> http://www.vimeo.com/7484260
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Re: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[P. J. Alling]

What do you want to bet that it's actually underpowered for it's 
concept.  Looks like an opportunity to sell lots of expensive 
accessories though...


Desjardins, Steve wrote:

This makes more sense as sensor technology approaches the "good enough" limit 
for entire groups of customers.   I wonder how upgradable the lens/sensor unit is?

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Dario 
Bonazza
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:43 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!


Uh, strange solution indeed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09111001ricohgxr.asp
I'm not sure I'm thrilled with it.
Dario


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Re: FA100/2.8 Vs DFA100/2.8

[Tom Cakalic]

With the FA/100 can't remember using the limiter, always focusing
manually when shooting closeups and as a telephoto I havene't
experienced any flare issues as the front element is so deeply
recessed in the body of the lens.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Leon Altoff wrote:
>
>> I think I have only once used the limiter on the FA so I'm unlikely to
>> miss the feature.
>
> I use it all the time on mine but that's because I tend to use it as a
> general purpose 100mm lens.  If the AF gets lost the limiter becomes quite
> handy.
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Re: Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>There are no Lithium Ion AA batteries, but the *ist-D can also use CR-V3 
>batteries and those ARE available as Litium Ion rechargeables. Plus, 
>they're 3V(+) rather than the 2.5V(-) you get with a pair of NiMH AAs.
>
>Has anyone used these? The only drawback I foresee is there doesn't seem 
>to be a charger that can do 2 of these at once.

Pentax officially advised against them due to their higher voltage,
though with the DC-DC switching regulators in modern electronics I
seriously doubt there would be any issues. Probably just a legal CYA
tactic, IMO.

I only knew one person who used them and he did so without ever having
any problems. And he was a Pentax rep. :)


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Re: PESO - Spadina and Dundas

[gldnbearz]

East coast or west, our Chinatowns share some similarities. =)  I like it.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:30 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Why I like rangefinders:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/spadina-and-dundas.html
>
> I just wish that guy wasn't sticking out of her back, but other than
> that it's pretty much what I'd hoped for.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 The phrase "But what are you taking pictures *for*?"
 


kept coming up.
   





http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/


Maybe he just wanted to make sure you're not a terrorist?

(tongue only slightly in cheek).

;-)

cheers,
frank


That was my thought, too, Frank...

Larry -  nice story -- and I've always been font of power lines and 
Orion... I'd prune a bit more
for better impact.  


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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Tom Cakalic]

It strikes me as a very well composed image and I appreciate it for
that and all the reasons mentioned. It's the image, as a whole, that
doesn't inspire or move me, possibly the subject matter and all the
grays/blacks leave me feeling empty.  Not a criticism, just my
observations.  If I imagine the ship as bright red, I start to have a
different feeling.

Tom

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> I, also, like the form of the diagonal dividing line, but the numbers tend to 
> pull me back to reality. Leaves me a bit uncertain as well.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Brian Walters  wrote:
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>> From: Brian Walters 
>> Subject: PESO - Cheynes IV
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 4:35 AM
>> G'day all
>>
>> I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame
>> is divided
>> diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not
>> sure overall
>>
>> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html
>>
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> PS:  'Cheynes IV' is the name of the ship - you can
>> almost, but not
>> quite, make out the name on the hull.
>>
>> PPS.  Why does Pentax Photo Browser identify this
>> Sigma 18-125 mm lens
>> as an F 28-80 mm f3.5-4.4 ?
>>
>>
>>
>> ++
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Re: Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3

[Thibouille]

Yes some are 3.3v. Some others just3v. Some took the 3.3v on purpose
too boost af but the risk to brick the cam is real.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2009, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> My friend uses CR-V3 rechargeables in his *ist-DL and is very happy with 
> them. They last a lot and it seems that they do not loose their charge.
>
> Unfortunately, I think that Pentax has physically prevented the K-x from 
> using them (maybe because there were reports about some of them that had a 
> higher voltage and could damage the camera IIRC)
>
>
>
> - Mensaje original 
>> De: John Sessoms 
>> Para: pdml@pdml.net
>> Enviado: mar,10 noviembre, 2009 15:10
>> Asunto: Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3
>>
>> Thought I'd open this in a fresh thread specifically about batteries for 
>> earlier
>> Pentax DSLRs.
>>
>> I got an idea from the discussion of NiMH and Lithium AA batteries in the 
>> other
>> thread, and wanted to follow up on it.
>>
>> There are no Lithium Ion AA batteries, but the *ist-D can also use CR-V3
>> batteries and those ARE available as Litium Ion rechargeables. Plus, they're
>> 3V(+) rather than the 2.5V(-) you get with a pair of NiMH AAs.
>>
>> Has anyone used these? The only drawback I foresee is there doesn't seem to 
>> be a
>> charger that can do 2 of these at once.
>>
>> Even better would be a charger that could do 4 at once, since the *ist-D/BG-1
>> takes 4 of them is you load it with CR-V3s.
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Re: PESO - Spadina and Dundas

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


Why I like rangefinders:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/spadina-and-dundas.html

I just wish that guy wasn't sticking out of her back,

What?  you are dissing your own blur?  
I think the pattern for sharp, blur, blur  works fine .. and the blurry 
person makes a statement about
the main subject.  Not my fave photo of yours, but not because of  the 
blurry guy.


"enjoy" isn't quite right for me though, given the subject

ann


but other than
that it's pretty much what I'd hoped for.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen"

Subject: But what are you taking pictures for?





I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty?
Nope.
Do you paint?
Nope.
Make music?
Nope.



Nice to see they are still choosing police from the shallow end of the gene 
pool.


William Robb 



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Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:18, John Sessoms wrote:

And I'm not saying otherwise. Sanyo does.

http://www.eneloop.info/fileadmin/EDITORS/ENELOOP/MANUALS/enebook_e20090227.pdf

Page 16:

"Is it Possible to Charge eneloop with
Other Manufacturers’ Chargers?"

"No, we do not recommend it. Neither the construction
nor the characteristics of both battery and charger are
the same. Accordingly, we do not recommend that other
manufacturers’ batteries be charged with Sanyo chargers."

Hence the "having to carry an additional special charger".
I consider that a disadvantage not offset by them being sold pre- 
charged.




I have been cheerfully ignoring that recommendation (as I didn't even  
KNOW about it) and using my Rayovac 1-hour NiMh charger with my  
Eneloops for a couple of years now, with no ill effect.


I would propose you do the same and ignore the "please oh please use  
our brand of charger" recommendation from Sanyo.  It is unnecessary.   
They just don't want to be held responsible if you charge 'em with  
some pile of junk charger and kill the batteries.  A decent charger  
will be just fine, no matter the brand.


Just like "only use Texaco oil in your new car" kind of advice.   
Unnecessary.


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Re: OT Old computers and Raw files

[P. J. Alling]

You might look into a USB 2.0 complant expansion card, (and the proper 
drivers), that should speed up your processing.  On second thought not 
just compliant, I have an HP printer with built in card slots that's 2.0 
compliant, but transfers data at 1.1 speeds.  You need one that's 
actually fully 2.0.  However I don't think that there's any new 
expansion cards that aren't.


David J Brooks wrote:

After processing 22 Nef files and saving as +- 2.5K jpeg files for
printing, all i can say is,, if i;'m going
to shoot Raw for the better part, I'm going to need a newer computer.
The USB 1.1 external HD's running through LR and saving on C drive is
painfully slow.

Twenty two conversion took 1 1/2 hours, mostly in lifting from the
external i am thinking.

Maybe $700 for a new PC build is not far off.

Dave

  



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RE: Ricoh GXR interchanges electronics together with lenses!

[Desjardins, Steve]

This makes more sense as sensor technology approaches the "good enough" limit 
for entire groups of customers.   I wonder how upgradable the lens/sensor unit 
is?

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Uh, strange solution indeed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09111001ricohgxr.asp
I'm not sure I'm thrilled with it.
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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes: Dag, don't open this in front of your kids

[Matthew Hunt]

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:35 PM, eckinator  wrote:

> Uhm, what are the units on your flaming asshole scale? Scoville?

I vote for Scoville Units and the Bristol Stool Scale, added in quadrature.

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Re: OT Old computers and Raw files

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

USB 2.0 is 40x faster than USB 1.1. Trying to use a USB 1.1 connection
to your storage drive for the amount of data transfer required to do
any real photography is hopeless.

Update that system with faster IO interfaces and faster drives, or get
a newer system.

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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[John Sessoms]

From: David Savage

Nope. Just a pretty girl.

DS

2009/11/10 Rob Studdert :

> http://www.vimeo.com/7484260
>


She's shooting film at the beginning of the clip. I think it might even 
be a K1000.


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Re: Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3

[Jaume Lahuerta]

My friend uses CR-V3 rechargeables in his *ist-DL and is very happy with them. 
They last a lot and it seems that they do not loose their charge.

Unfortunately, I think that Pentax has physically prevented the K-x from using 
them (maybe because there were reports about some of them that had a higher 
voltage and could damage the camera IIRC)



- Mensaje original 
> De: John Sessoms 
> Para: pdml@pdml.net
> Enviado: mar,10 noviembre, 2009 15:10
> Asunto: Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3
> 
> Thought I'd open this in a fresh thread specifically about batteries for 
> earlier 
> Pentax DSLRs.
> 
> I got an idea from the discussion of NiMH and Lithium AA batteries in the 
> other 
> thread, and wanted to follow up on it.
> 
> There are no Lithium Ion AA batteries, but the *ist-D can also use CR-V3 
> batteries and those ARE available as Litium Ion rechargeables. Plus, they're 
> 3V(+) rather than the 2.5V(-) you get with a pair of NiMH AAs.
> 
> Has anyone used these? The only drawback I foresee is there doesn't seem to 
> be a 
> charger that can do 2 of these at once.
> 
> Even better would be a charger that could do 4 at once, since the *ist-D/BG-1 
> takes 4 of them is you load it with CR-V3s.
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RE: But what are you taking pictures for?

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen

I was having so much fun taking pictures on my drive home, that by
1:30 or so I was still fifty miles south of Los Bano and had to pull
over for a nap. After my nap, while I was adding nitrates to the soil,
I noticed how cool Orion looked juxtaposed with a telephone
pole. After I got some frames of that, a couple other things caught my
eye. 


It was about quarter of three, I was 50-100m down the road, just
finishing up, when I noticed a cop car parked next to my car. He had
stopped to make sure that it hadn't been abandoned. The laptop on the
seat assured him of that.  He was, however, utterly perplexed at what
someone was doing, at that time of night, in the suburbs of nowhere,
taking pictures. The phrase "But what are you taking pictures *for*?"
kept coming up.

I asked him if he ever took pictures just because they were pretty?
Nope.
Do you paint?
Nope.
Make music?
Nope.

Would you like to see them?
OK.

We got to my camera just as the bracketed set was finishing up, and I
put one of the shots on the display.

"Cool!"


Sometimes that's the only way to explain what you're doing in a way they 
can understand; just show 'em the picture.


The first two are the best for me.

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Re: K10D in low light and magenta concrete

[Rick Womer]

It stays magenta; just a slightly different shade; and the WB in the rest of 
the frame goes all wonky.

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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> 
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> wherever I wanted, and the grey stuff was still magenta.
> >
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Batteries for *ist-D and other Pentax cameras that take AA or CR-V3

[John Sessoms]

Thought I'd open this in a fresh thread specifically about batteries for 
earlier Pentax DSLRs.


I got an idea from the discussion of NiMH and Lithium AA batteries in 
the other thread, and wanted to follow up on it.


There are no Lithium Ion AA batteries, but the *ist-D can also use CR-V3 
batteries and those ARE available as Litium Ion rechargeables. Plus, 
they're 3V(+) rather than the 2.5V(-) you get with a pair of NiMH AAs.


Has anyone used these? The only drawback I foresee is there doesn't seem 
to be a charger that can do 2 of these at once.


Even better would be a charger that could do 4 at once, since the 
*ist-D/BG-1 takes 4 of them is you load it with CR-V3s.


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Re: OT- Future National Geographic Photographers conical the Great War in Color.

[Bong Manayon]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing!

Bong

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:38 PM, P. J. Alling
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> Not a lot of Color Photography of WWII let alone WWI
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-37025.html
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Re: MGESO - Such a lot of stuff! (performance pics)

[Bruce Walker]

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Hi folks,

Usually, I don't have many problems in deciding which pictures I like 
better, but selecting say 3 pictures out of these 70-80 (already a 
selection among 500 or so) is rather difficult to me. Would anybody help 
me there? Please name your 3 favorites.


Dario

Here are multiple galleries of pictures taken on occasion of the 
"Ammutinamenti" contemporary arts and performance festival taking 
place over here once a year. You've been already flooded with such 
kind of stuff in the past, and there's truly a lot of stuff to see. 
Enjoy it, if you can afford :-)


Warning: you'll find mild nudity in some pics.

http://www.dariobonazza.com/amm09e.htm

Dario


Holy cow! Just 3? :-)

OK, these ...

amm091930e
amm091938e
inter0911e
inter0905e

(I can't count -- so sue me.)

Great set, Dario!

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Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?

[Jaume Lahuerta]

- Mensaje original 

> De: John Sessoms 

> I don't need them to hold a charge while they sit for months. I needed 
> something 
> to power the camera that would give me a reasonable number of shots before 
> having to be replaced.
> 
> None of the NiMh batteries would do that, including the Eneloops.
> 

As I said in another thread:
"This may not be a problem for planned shotting situations (trips,
assignments,...), but I much prefer the Eneloop type behaviour, when
you can just take the camera and know that you'll be able to shoot (and
also know that your spare charged betteries are still charged). Just
like my K20D ones."

But I agree in that this depends greatly on the use that one makes of the 
camera.
In my case, I like the idea of having always a spare charged battery in the 
camera case, so I know that I won't run out of power, and I don't want to worry 
about having to charge all batteries (in-use and spare) every time I want to 
grab the camera

...but wait, we don't need to choose!!!
We can have some eneloops type always ready just in case and also some powerful 
'regular NiMHs' for those planned intesive shooting days...that's the advantage 
of inexpensive batteries !

Now, if only the K-x could handle them...

Jaume


  

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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[Doug Franklin]

Boris Liberman wrote:

I reckon the answer to your question is hidden in the "Orion's belt"... ;-)...


Where /is/ that blasted cat!?

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Re: OT PESO - Gaze

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Dario Bonazza
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> Unusual, powerful, inspiring! I like it very much. Dario

Those words pretty much sum it up.

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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> I've narrowed the myriad of bracketed shots from that session down to
> 14, I still have some work to do:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649186149/


Very cool shots!!

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Re: But what are you taking pictures for?

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 The phrase "But what are you taking pictures *for*?"
> kept coming up.


Maybe he just wanted to make sure you're not a terrorist?

(tongue only slightly in cheek).

;-)

cheers,
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OT- Future National Geographic Photographers conical the Great War in Color.

[P. J. Alling]

Not a lot of Color Photography of WWII let alone WWI

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-37025.html



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Re: October PUG and 2010 themes

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> I really liked Ann's "Court Street Station", Frank's "Excess", the
> confusion of Thrainn's "Traffic Signs", Ira's "White Sands Expression",
> Dave's "My First Pose" and I got a laugh out of Ken's "Back Seat Driver"
> (well spotted).


Thanks, Brian.

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Re: KR on Color Management

[Doug Franklin]

Bob W wrote:

you interpret his article as saying you don't need to know about colour
management, I think he's basically correct. From camera to computer to
printer / screen you don't need to do any manual colour management if
everything uses profiles. You don't even need to calibrate your monitor if
you trust the profiles.


For the majority of photogs, especially snap shooters, I'd largely agree 
with you ... assuming gear that has profiles, that are installed and 
properly configured for use.  On Windows, that's not necessarily going 
to happen without conscious action by the installer/operator.


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PESO - Spadina and Dundas

[frank theriault]

Why I like rangefinders:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/spadina-and-dundas.html

I just wish that guy wasn't sticking out of her back, but other than
that it's pretty much what I'd hoped for.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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RE: KR on Color Management

[John Sessoms]

From: Doug Franklin

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/color-management/is-for-wimps.htm

Now he claims to have "invented the world's first dedicated digital 
color-space conversion chip back in 1990".


He further claims that the vast majority of the time "You don't need 
[color profiles and color spaces]" and that he "never uses them."


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Re: PESO - Stares

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> I don't mind being stared at when I have a pretty lens
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_11/09_11_stares/01.htm

Wonderful photo!!

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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Dario Bonazza]

The Me Super, the flare off the building and, most of all, the LBA sign!
Dario

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http://www.vimeo.com/7484260

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Re: K-x body, anyone have any experiences to pass on?

[John Sessoms]

From: John Francis

On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 03:20:03PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:

>
> I was not impressed with the Eneloops. Other than not having to  
> pre-charge them - a one time bonus, they didn't offer any additional  
> practical performance advantage over the Duracell or Energizer  
> rechargeables and that at the cost of having to carry an additional  
> special charger that I couldn't use for my other rechargeable batteries.


Odd.  I use the same charger for my Eneloops as I use for all my other
rechargeable NiMHs (Energiser, Rayovac, ARs, etc. - both AA & AAAs);
a Maha charger I bought from Thomas Distributing.  I'm sure the other
good chargers (Lacie, etc.) can handle tmem all too.


And I'm not saying otherwise. Sanyo does.

http://www.eneloop.info/fileadmin/EDITORS/ENELOOP/MANUALS/enebook_e20090227.pdf

Page 16:

"Is it Possible to Charge eneloop with
Other Manufacturers’ Chargers?"

"No, we do not recommend it. Neither the construction
nor the characteristics of both battery and charger are
the same. Accordingly, we do not recommend that other
manufacturers’ batteries be charged with Sanyo chargers."

Hence the "having to carry an additional special charger".
I consider that a disadvantage not offset by them being sold pre-charged.


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Re: OT PESO - Gaze

[Dario Bonazza]

Unusual, powerful, inspiring! I like it very much. 
Dario


- Original Message - 
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G'day Folks,

For your consideration:



Direct link (~kb)



D700, 14-24mm f2.8 @ 23mm, f4.8 @ 1/350, ISO 400. rendered in LR.

Enjoy.

..or not.

Cheers,

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Re: NiZn AA batteries

[Thibouille]

Yep if so, :(
I suppose we'll need more reports with time...
At least they work better with devices needing 1.5  compared to the 1.2V NiMH.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> I read somewhere that these have the same problem that the 'old' NiMHs, this 
> is, the loose their charge in few days/weeks of no use.
>
> This may not be a problem for planned shotting situations (trips, 
> assignments,...), but I much prefer the Eneloop type behaviour, when you can 
> just take the camera and know that you'll be able to shoot (and also know 
> that your spare charged betteries are still charged). Just like my K20D ones.
>
>
>
> - Mensaje original 
>> De: Thibouille 
>> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Enviado: mar,10 noviembre, 2009 12:17
>> Asunto: NiZn AA batteries
>>
>> Just found this on DPR forum.
>> Dunno how effective it is but at least engadget seems to like it much.
>>
>> Those are 1.6V batteries.
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Re: PESO - Cheynes IV

[Jack Davis]

I, also, like the form of the diagonal dividing line, but the numbers tend to 
pull me back to reality. Leaves me a bit uncertain as well.

Jack 

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Brian Walters  wrote:

> From: Brian Walters 
> Subject: PESO - Cheynes IV
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 4:35 AM
> G'day all
> 
> I'm in two minds about this.  I like the way the frame
> is divided
> diagonally and the looped chain.  But I'm just not
> sure overall
> 
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/179330/Cheynes_IV.html
> 
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> PS:  'Cheynes IV' is the name of the ship - you can
> almost, but not
> quite, make out the name on the hull.
> 
> PPS.  Why does Pentax Photo Browser identify this
> Sigma 18-125 mm lens
> as an F 28-80 mm f3.5-4.4 ?
> 
> 
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
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Re: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Mark Roberts]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

>Looks like she was using an ME Super to photograph the Eiffel Tower...

And when she was standing in front of the Moulin Rouge the sign above
rotated to show the letters "LBA".


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RE: OT Anyone see the irony in this clip? ;-)

[Chris Mitchell]

Looks like she was using an ME Super to photograph the Eiffel Tower...

Chris

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RE: Pentax Europe establishes its own online store

[Desjardins, Steve]

I understand where you're coming from, but I buy all of my stuff from B&H so 
I'm used to this way of doing business.  It just comes with the territory in 
rural America.  We're just glad for the internet.  ;-)

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wilson
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax Europe establishes its own online store


Dario Bonazza wrote:

> I'm trying resending this post after the first one got lost in 
> space-time continuum.
> Though not widespread all over Europe, it's a start:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09110901digitalriverpentax.asp
Hmmm.
  "Pentax has struggled to achieve widespread distribution of its full 
product range in some European markets in recent years."
That might be due to it not supplying UK retailers with the product line.

"PENTAX is committed to its existing trade partners and will continue to 
offer its full support in this respect."
None in the UK(AFAIK) at the present time.

"The PENTAX Europe store is expected to launch in 2009."
Better get a shuffle on, then.

By the way:  I am unlikely to buy anything I cannot have a play with 
previously.  I am also likely to be unhappy with any purchase that shows 
signs of anyone else having had a play.  Not sure how you are going to 
solve that conundrum, with not having any high street players.

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