Re: GFM NPW 2010 - head count

2010-01-07 Thread David Mann
On Jan 7, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 5/1/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I'm thinking maybe a 39 tooth small ring might help a lot.
 
 Come for a curry with my mate and I and that sentence will be obsolete :-)

Just watch out for jealous women...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8444245.stm

Dave

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RE: Snow event

2010-01-07 Thread Bob W
 On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:47 AM, Bob W wrote:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0026.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0028.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0035.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0038.jpg
 
 I like the third one best but I'd prefer it without the flag pole.
 
 I am so glad I was sent to the UK during spring/summer.
 

It's not usually horrible like this. It's usually horrible in different
ways.

Bob


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RE: Snow event

2010-01-07 Thread Bob W
 On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:47 AM, Bob W wrote:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0026.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0028.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0035.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0038.jpg
 
 I like the third one best but I'd prefer it without the flag pole.
 
 I am so glad I was sent to the UK during spring/summer.
 
 Dave
 
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Re: I'm done with models

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
2009/12/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
 I've had it.
 Too high maintenance.
 Too frustrating.
 Too much drama.

And here's me trying to get into doing more of that stuff...

 This past year has been incredibly frustrating for me. I had wanted to hone
 some of my studio skills, which are getting decidedly rusty. I arranged
 about a dozen shoots during the entire year, five happened, none were
 especially satisfactory.
 Last minute cancelleations, flakes, models not prepared to shoot (cancelling
 after they walked in the door) was more the norm than shooting.
 I shot this on my kitchen counter last night. Personally, I think it's one
 of the better pictures I've taken this year, and I didn't have to wait for a
 no show.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer_still/4362.html

Well the lighting is spot on. Nice one.

 I think I'm going to spend 2010 shooting rocks, flowers, blades of grass and
 old wrecked buildings and cars.

No...

 The portait studio is closed until further notice.
 I'm done with that crap.

Wear a beret, shoot dog shit and market it as fine art maybe?

DS

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Re: PESO: Smoothie

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
That is an excellent environmental portrait. I love her interaction
with the camera.

IMO it's much better than the candid stuff of yours where the subject
is unaware.

Cheers,

Dave

2010/1/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 Another Key West pic from this past April:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10450970size=lg

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8, f56, 1/125, ISO 200, + 1/2 stop exposure comp, 31mm

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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
2010/1/6 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 Must be some sort of meeting or convention.  Probably commies or
 socialists.  They drive scooters, don't they?

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/subversive-activities.html

 ;-)

I understand motorcycle gangs are a bit of a problem in Canada.

I suspect the worst thing you'd have to fear from the riders of these
piglets is a recital of really bad poetry.

Or something.

DS

PS I like it.

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Re: PESO - Spotted in a tree near Gunnedah

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
Marsupial. Not bear.

Cheers,

Mr Pedantic ;-)

2010/1/7 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 Love it! A teddy bear:-) Excellent work.
 Paul
 On Jan 6, 2010, at 12:48 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:



 In a message dated 12/31/2009 1:31:25 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 christ...@skofteland.net writes:
 Gunnedah bills itself  as the Koala Capital of the World.

 I was on a drive through the country  with my father-in-law and two of
 his friends when we spotted this guy.   It's been raining here for the
 past week so the sky is kinda crappy but the  little guy was kinda  cute.

 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2009/12/koala-capital-of-world.html

 Enjoy.

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 =
 That's not a bird! :-) Really nice  shot.

 Marnie aka Doe

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Re: OT Romance is not dead!

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
2010/1/6 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 At least, not in the midwest

 http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/offbeat/iowa-man-spells-out-wife's-birthday-message-in-manure_5415058

But if flowers and stuff grow there, it'll be kinda' sweet.

I guess.

DS

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Re: GESO fun and games

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
2010/1/6 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/sledge

 Taken with a camera and a couple of lenses.

That looks like fun.

We do a similar thing on beach sand dunes and a esky lid.

DS

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Anybody else planning on signing up for Godfrey's class this weekend?

2010-01-07 Thread Larry Colen
In the hopes of better success with lightroom, I'm planning on signing  
up for Godfrey's lightroom class this weekend. I was wondering if any  
other pdmlers were going to be there.


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Re: peso mushrooms at night

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
Nice lighting.

I'd suggest a crop to remove that white piece in the LLH corner.

DS

2010/1/6 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 This year, mushrooms have been popping up in my yard like, well, like
 mushrooms.  One stump has four or five varieties. Since it's right outside
 my front door, it keeps distracting me with opportunities to play with my
 macro lens.

 I really wanted to take some photos of the mushrooms today, but I was right
 at the tail end of a home improvement project.  Have you ever noticed how
 occasionally home repairs seem to take a little bit longer than expected?  I
 was noticing this on what my have been my eighth last trip to the hardware
 store.  I was bummed that I didn't get a chance to photograph the mushrooms
 today before it got dark.

 When I finished the project at about 9:30 tonight, I decided to grab my
 strobes and give it a try at night.  I should have realized that when you
 throw a metric buttload of photons at a subject, that can improve the
 quality of the photos.

 Here's one I particularly like:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4249761021/sizes/o/

 From this set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623150326000/
 Which has a few I shot during the day on Sunday as well.

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Re: peso mushrooms at night

2010-01-07 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:55 AM, David Savage wrote:


Nice lighting.


Thanks.



I'd suggest a crop to remove that white piece in the LLH corner.


I did a virtual copy and tried that crop, it does seem to be a bit of  
an improvement.




DS

2010/1/6 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

This year, mushrooms have been popping up in my yard like, well, like
mushrooms.  One stump has four or five varieties. Since it's right  
outside
my front door, it keeps distracting me with opportunities to play  
with my

macro lens.

I really wanted to take some photos of the mushrooms today, but I  
was right
at the tail end of a home improvement project.  Have you ever  
noticed how
occasionally home repairs seem to take a little bit longer than  
expected?  I
was noticing this on what my have been my eighth last trip to the  
hardware
store.  I was bummed that I didn't get a chance to photograph the  
mushrooms

today before it got dark.

When I finished the project at about 9:30 tonight, I decided to  
grab my
strobes and give it a try at night.  I should have realized that  
when you

throw a metric buttload of photons at a subject, that can improve the
quality of the photos.

Here's one I particularly like:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4249761021/sizes/o/

From this set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623150326000/
Which has a few I shot during the day on Sunday as well.


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Re: I'm done with models

2010-01-07 Thread eckinator
2010/1/7 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com:

 Wear a beret, shoot dog shit and market it as fine art maybe?

Mark!

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Re: flamingo crossing

2010-01-07 Thread eckinator
Yeah, fun shot indeed =)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/1/5 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 That's classic, Paul.  Nice Florida streetscape!  Cheers, Christine


 - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
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 Subject: PESO: flamingo crossing


 I'm looking through some of the pics I shot while on a job in Key West
 last April. Really haven't had time to do that until now. Here's one  that
 caught my eye.
 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm, ISO 200, f5.6 @ 1/750th

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10447314size=lg

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Re: Anybody else planning on signing up for Godfrey's class this weekend?

2010-01-07 Thread AlunFoto
I did, but missed the plane. :)

Well, no, not seriously. But it would have been fun to pop over, of course.

Jostein

2010/1/7 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 In the hopes of better success with lightroom, I'm planning on signing up
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Re: Snow event

2010-01-07 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/6 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 On 6/1/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
Make sure you have good tyres, mate. Drive save.
 BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A

 http://www.tyre-pictures.com/BFGoodrich/AllTerrainTAKO.jpg

 best in the business :-)

I trust you to select well. Much better than I would anyway... :-)
I just have this little pet anxiety over groove depth and tyre
performance. That's what's in good for me...

Over here, by the way, we are having a peculiar case with all-weather
tyres and non-studded winter tyres. The studded tyres are frowned upon
because they erode the tarmac, creating a dust and pollution problem.
So if you want to use them you have to pay extra fees (£100 per
season). The result is that most people have converted to non-studded
tyres. However, where studs roughens the ice, the non-studded ones
will polish it. And currently we see an increase in accidents caused
by people losing the road grip.

Jostein

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Re: Photographers Ephemeris

2010-01-07 Thread Eugene Homme

John Sessoms wrote:
At my weekly brunch this morning someone mentioned a small free-ware 
application called the Photographer's Ephemeris. Requires Adobe AIR, 
which I think you should already have if you're using Photoshop or 
Lightroom.


http://stephentrainor.com/tools

I downloaded the program and am taking a first look - haven't even 
finished reading the instructions, but I'm already impressed enough I 
thought I'd pass it along.


It uses Google maps and locates a point on them. You can place the 
point around anywhere you want it. It's not locked to the streets like 
streetview is. I plugged in my own address and it locates the point 
right in the middle of my property.


FROM your chosen point it shows a graphic line to the sunrise, sunset, 
moonrise, moonset for any chosen date, along with the times, azimuth 
and percentage of illumination for the moon.


There's an advanced view that allows you to show the line to the sun 
and  the moon for any time during a chosen date.


Want to know where you need to stand to get the full moon framed by 
the mile high swinging bridge at GFM? What time and what dates?


Want to know if you can get the sunrise framed in the attic window?

You want to catch the full moon (quarter moon, new moon) rising or 
setting over some landscape feature?


The program can tell you exactly where to stand (within the limits of 
google maps ~ a couple of meters most places.)


The only lack I'm aware of is it doesn't appear to have a print 
function, but I was told you can use print screen function under 
Windows (or however the Mac does it) and paste it from the clipboard).




Nice find. I passed it along to the dpreview Pentax forum. Thanks.

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Re: Anybody else planning on signing up for Godfrey's class this weekend?

2010-01-07 Thread Boris Liberman
I wish I could, 'cause somehow I am certain that Godfrey is very good
at explaining things, which is IMO the basis for good teaching.

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 In the hopes of better success with lightroom, I'm planning on signing up
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Re: PESO: Smoothie

2010-01-07 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Dave. And  thanks to all who commented or had a look. 
Paul
On Jan 7, 2010, at 3:37 AM, David Savage wrote:

 That is an excellent environmental portrait. I love her interaction
 with the camera.
 
 IMO it's much better than the candid stuff of yours where the subject
 is unaware.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 2010/1/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 Another Key West pic from this past April:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10450970size=lg
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8, f56, 1/125, ISO 200, + 1/2 stop exposure comp, 31mm
 
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Re: Anybody else planning on signing up for Godfrey's class this weekend?

2010-01-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/1/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

In the hopes of better success with lightroom, I'm planning on signing
up for Godfrey's lightroom class this weekend. I was wondering if any
other pdmlers were going to be there.

Say hi to Gertrude for me ;-)

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Re: Snow event

2010-01-07 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 We're still having a snow event here in London, but it's nasty wet horrible
 stuff, not the lovely fluffy stuff we had in February last year. I expect
 the Inuit have a few choice words for it.

 I've had the day off today to deal with some stuff in Central London. Once
 I'd completed that it was a pleasure to walk the half-empty streets in the
 snow. Trafalgar Square looks particularly beautiful when there are few
 people around - it gives you the chance to appreciate the architecture.

 Here are some photos taken today with my phone:

 http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0026.jpg
 http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0028.jpg
 http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0035.jpg
 http://www.web-options.com/IMAG0038.jpg

I especially like the last one.

cheers,
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PESO - It Must Be Art...

2010-01-07 Thread frank theriault
...because I have no idea what the hell it means:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/it-must-be-art.html

Seen affixed to an apartment building wall here in Toronto.  Guerrilla
artists, perhaps?

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

2010-01-07 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:40 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/6 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 Must be some sort of meeting or convention.  Probably commies or
 socialists.  They drive scooters, don't they?

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/subversive-activities.html

 ;-)

 I understand motorcycle gangs are a bit of a problem in Canada.

 I suspect the worst thing you'd have to fear from the riders of these
 piglets is a recital of really bad poetry.

 Or something.

I think I saw a set of bongos strapped to one of the seats...

;-)

Thanks, Dave, and thanks to everyone else who commented.

cheers,
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Re: OT: open message for Bill R.

2010-01-07 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll take all of that weather you have... makes for fantastic photography...

Take the geese too, please.

cheers,
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Re: PESO 2010 - 001, 003 - GDG

2010-01-07 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 The Slow Time ...

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-slow-time

 Comments always welcome, thanks for looking.

 Godfrey

O!  These are amazing - actually prefer the colour (for the
composition, I think).

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Re: PESO - Support

2010-01-07 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Revisiting some old shots and came across this one from my trip to
 Canada/GFM in '07. Taken during a refuelling stop at Incheon
 international airport, Republic of Korea:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4251219804

 Direct Link (~)
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4251219804_86d5e88c68_o.jpg

 K10D, DA 16-45mm f4 @ 45mm, 1/10 @ f5.6, ISO 200

Very nice composition, wonderful rendering.

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Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson
870 photo printer.
I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with
Photoshop Elements for prints.
Now I would like to make my new system easier and more foolproof.
I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed printing out of
Lightroom.
The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up like it was under a heatlamp.
I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in sunlight.  Not at all
close to the original.

The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but
colors wander.
Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get
different cast  shades.
HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I have a bunch generic
glossy paper
from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I bought from them worked
out so well).

I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer
and I'm jealous.
I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer is too old.
I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd ask
for your collective wisdom.

Regards, Bob S.

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Jack Davis
WOW, that's about as bad a key stroke shot as I've taken. However, you might 
have given me credit for getting the o right.(?)
A bit scary at that. 8-(

Jock

--- On Wed, 1/6/10, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Shot Counter
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 8:33 PM
 Yeah, thanks Rod. :-)  D  B
 are PRETTY far apart on the keyboard Jazk.
 
 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Thanks, Rod. I'm grateful for the information and will
 take a bit of time later to apply it. I'm not concerned as
 to whether the same body and lens were returned to me, of
 that I'm certain.
  I would like to return the image count to something
 close to what is true for obvious reasons. With all the
 advice I'm being given, I now feel that outcome is
 possible.
 
  Thanks all,
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Shot Counter
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:13 PM
  On 07/01/2010, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   I checked both serial numbers first thing
 upon their
  return.
   I called Pentax customer service to let them
 know
  about the question and their preliminary response
 was the
  implication that the information might have been a
 result of
  using a high count memory card by the repair
 service. They
  made a note to follow up.
   Whatever the cause, I mentioned the repair
 service
  advised that regardless of the reason, they
 wouldn't be able
  to turn the counter back.
   Obviously, it won't matter unless I decide to
 sell it,
  but I let Pentax know I am displeased and anxious
 to learn
  the cause.
 
  Hi Jack,
 
  The shot number, ie the one that is used as the
 image file
  mane can be
  reset, it can also be set to any number. The
 internal
  shutter counter
  is the only number that can't be altered, it's an
 up
  counter and
  should register every shutter activation whatever
 the
  operating mode.
 
  The internal shutter count value can be
 determined using
  an
  application such as PhotoME as has been mentioned,
 just
  compare shots
  prior to the camera being sent for repair to those
 shot
  after. There
  should be some advance on the counter but I would
 find it
  hard to
  believe that the shutter would have been activated
 more
  than a few
  hundred times during the repair/testing.
 
  PhotoME also reports an Internal Serial Number
 under the
  Manufacturer notes section, this number I would
 expect
  should not
  differ if the camera is the one you sent for
 repair.
 
  Cheers,
 
  --
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Re: PESO - It Must Be Art...

2010-01-07 Thread Jack Davis
I have no idea either. I have to add that I didn't feel busted when I read 
it..a good thing!

Jack

--- On Thu, 1/7/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - It Must Be Art...
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 5:26 AM
 ...because I have no idea what the
 hell it means:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/it-must-be-art.html
 
 Seen affixed to an apartment building wall here in
 Toronto.  Guerrilla
 artists, perhaps?
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much Graydon. How would I be able to name an image on the memory card? 

Thanks,

Jack

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 From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com
 Subject: Re: Shot Counter
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:06 PM
 On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 04:57:41PM
 -0800, Jack Davis scripsit: [snip]
  Obviously, it won't matter unless I decide to sell it,
 but I let
  Pentax know I am displeased and anxious to learn the
 cause.
 
 You can set the shot counter to anything by:
 
 rename an image file on the memory card to imgp.dng or
 _igp.dng
 
 sticking this memory card in the camera
 
 power on the camera
 
 take a picture
 
 power off the camera
 
 remove the memory card
 
 rename that image file to whatever number is one less than
 the number
 you want
 
 put the card back in the camera
 
 take a picture
 
 voila!
 
 (Haven't actually done this, but it's a logical consequence
 of resets
 to the higher value if there's a higher value on the
 card).
 
 My current K20D shot counter value is the nicely
 symmetrical 3553; I
 can't remember how many times the counter has been around,
 though; it's
 either twice or thrice.  The 3553 is not an indication
 of relatively low
 usage.
 
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-37ºC

2010-01-07 Thread William Robb

That's how cold it is this morning.
Gads I hate winter.

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Re: -37ºC

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
I bet.

2010/1/7 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
 That's how cold it is this morning.
 Gads I hate winter.

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Re: -37ºC

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
I have, somewhere here, a Polaroid shot of the weather net work red
screen in January of 1996. It was -46C i believe, no wind chill. By
the time i drove from our cabin in Longlac to the office, it had
dipped to -52C, no wind. I got out of the truck, pounded a wood stake
in the ground, just to say i worked at -52.;-)
We were pipe lining for Transcanada at the time and we had to wait
until it ~warmed up~ to -35 C before they could weld.

Dave

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 That's how cold it is this morning.
 Gads I hate winter.

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, thanks Rod. :-)  D  B are PRETTY far apart on the keyboard Jazk.

Not for me:-)

Dave Brooks

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks, Rod. I'm grateful for the information and will take a bit of time 
 later to apply it. I'm not concerned as to whether the same body and lens 
 were returned to me, of that I'm certain.
 I would like to return the image count to something close to what is true 
 for obvious reasons. With all the advice I'm being given, I now feel that 
 outcome is possible.

 Thanks all,

 Jack

 --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Shot Counter
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:13 PM
 On 07/01/2010, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I checked both serial numbers first thing upon their
 return.
  I called Pentax customer service to let them know
 about the question and their preliminary response was the
 implication that the information might have been a result of
 using a high count memory card by the repair service. They
 made a note to follow up.
  Whatever the cause, I mentioned the repair service
 advised that regardless of the reason, they wouldn't be able
 to turn the counter back.
  Obviously, it won't matter unless I decide to sell it,
 but I let Pentax know I am displeased and anxious to learn
 the cause.

 Hi Jack,

 The shot number, ie the one that is used as the image file
 mane can be
 reset, it can also be set to any number. The internal
 shutter counter
 is the only number that can't be altered, it's an up
 counter and
 should register every shutter activation whatever the
 operating mode.

 The internal shutter count value can be determined using
 an
 application such as PhotoME as has been mentioned, just
 compare shots
 prior to the camera being sent for repair to those shot
 after. There
 should be some advance on the counter but I would find it
 hard to
 believe that the shutter would have been activated more
 than a few
 hundred times during the repair/testing.

 PhotoME also reports an Internal Serial Number under the
 Manufacturer notes section, this number I would expect
 should not
 differ if the camera is the one you sent for repair.

 Cheers,

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Re: Anybody else planning on signing up for Godfrey's class this weekend?

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
I would if i could,;-)

Dave

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Re: OT: open message for Bill R.

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:29 AM, frank theriault
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 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll take all of that weather you have... makes for fantastic photography...

 Take the geese too, please.

Henny Youngman never had success with that one either Frank.

Dave

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Re: PESO - It Must Be Art...

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
Thats three of us that have the beats me look.;-)

Dave

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:26 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...because I have no idea what the hell it means:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/it-must-be-art.html

 Seen affixed to an apartment building wall here in Toronto.  Guerrilla
 artists, perhaps?

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
Bob, I don't have the 870, and i never had any success printing from
Elements, but, my Epson 2400 came with paper profiles for a ll of the
various Epson papers. I select the paper i want in LR print. Also when
i do a print page setup i make sure i let PS colour manage.

I can say, that for about 75% of the time LR prints out pretty well,
especially my IR shots.
I have your problem the other 25%. I printed off some Santa claus
parade shots of a friend grand kid, and the jacket colour was
different in all 3, but was correct on screen.

Dave

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson
 870 photo printer.
 I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with
 Photoshop Elements for prints.
 Now I would like to make my new system easier and more foolproof.
 I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed printing out of
 Lightroom.
 The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up like it was under a heatlamp.
 I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in sunlight.  Not at all
 close to the original.

 The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but
 colors wander.
 Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get
 different cast  shades.
 HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I have a bunch generic
 glossy paper
 from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I bought from them worked
 out so well).

 I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer
 and I'm jealous.
 I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer is too old.
 I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd ask
 for your collective wisdom.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 001, 003 - GDG

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
Thats lovely. Hard to believe fall colours when we are under 2' of snow.;-)

Dave

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 The Slow Time ...

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-slow-time

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RE: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread J.C. O'Connell
there is no true normal, normal is not an exact defintion of a focal
length, and 50mm was what came with many many slrs for many years, one
could argue that that was normal, not 43mm or 55mm
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
wrote:
 right on the 35, but the 28 is wider than most
 anything called normal in the old days, I recall
 when 55mm on 35mm film was normal.  Regardless,
 the K24/3.5 is pretty damn good too, which I forgot
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28mm is a 42mm-e on APS-C, pretty much exactly the same as Pentax's 43mm
'true normal' and right on the 40-45mm normal range that was typical for
fixed-lens RF's and PS's back in the day as well as being moderately
common in SLR's from the mid-70's on. A 35 is a long normal on APS-C.

55mm as a normal was only ever an abberation of 60's SLR designs, as it
was a bit easier to design for a SLR mount than 50mm that had been the
the 'normal' for 35mm since the original Leica was introduced in the
late 1920's. Many systems never even had a 55 normal or only had exotic
55's (usually an f1.2 or a macro). 55's as the standard on SLR's only
lasted about 15 years from the early 60's to the late 70's, which was
also when 40's and 45's became increasingly common as normals from
Leica, Minolta, Nikon, Zeiss (Contax) Olympus and Pentax. Canon, Olympus
and Nikon only did exotic 55's.

35mm has traditionally had a longer normal than other formats, due to
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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread David Savage
There is no spoon

2010/1/7 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
 there is no true normal, normal is not an exact defintion of a focal
 length, and 50mm was what came with many many slrs for many years, one
 could argue that that was normal, not 43mm or 55mm
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 Subject: Re: Wide angle for K-X?


 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
 wrote:
 right on the 35, but the 28 is wider than most
 anything called normal in the old days, I recall
 when 55mm on 35mm film was normal.  Regardless,
 the K24/3.5 is pretty damn good too, which I forgot
 to mention...

 --
 J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net)

 28mm is a 42mm-e on APS-C, pretty much exactly the same as Pentax's 43mm
 'true normal' and right on the 40-45mm normal range that was typical for
 fixed-lens RF's and PS's back in the day as well as being moderately
 common in SLR's from the mid-70's on. A 35 is a long normal on APS-C.

 55mm as a normal was only ever an abberation of 60's SLR designs, as it
 was a bit easier to design for a SLR mount than 50mm that had been the
 the 'normal' for 35mm since the original Leica was introduced in the
 late 1920's. Many systems never even had a 55 normal or only had exotic
 55's (usually an f1.2 or a macro). 55's as the standard on SLR's only
 lasted about 15 years from the early 60's to the late 70's, which was
 also when 40's and 45's became increasingly common as normals from
 Leica, Minolta, Nikon, Zeiss (Contax) Olympus and Pentax. Canon, Olympus
 and Nikon only did exotic 55's.

 35mm has traditionally had a longer normal than other formats, due to
 Oskar Barnack's taste in lenses.

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is no spoon

Explains why my soup drips off the fork.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 001, 003 - GDG

2010-01-07 Thread Christine Aguila




On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:48 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com
wrote:

The Slow Time ...

   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-slow-time

Comments always welcome, thanks for looking.



Very nice, Godfrey.  Stunning colors and the rendering of the fog is 
terrific!  Excellent work.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: OT: open message for Bill R.

2010-01-07 Thread Stan Halpin
From Underground Weather:
 Friday Night
 Mostly clear. Dangerously cold wind chills. Lows around 12 below. [-24°C] 
 Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 [-34° C] 
 below zero after midnight. 
 Saturday
 Sunny. Dangerously cold wind chills. Highs around 5.[-15°C] Northwest winds 5 
 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero in the morning.


I agree about the scenic potential, but these are not what I consider ideal 
weather to be outside taking photos.

stan

On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Thomas Cakalic wrote:

 I'll take all of that weather you have... makes for fantastic photography...
 
 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Stan Halpin wrote:
 
 Dear Bill,
 
 I can't begin to tell you how very much we appreciate your loan of
 Canadian weather. The brisk air, the clean white snow, it is all
 wonderful. However, in fairness to you, I would like to return your
 loan at this time.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Stan
 
 p.s. If you happen to see Frank, please let him know that we are onto
 him, and will be sending his geese back to him very soon.
 
 Thanks, Stan. Made my evening.
 :-)
 
 
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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
repair.  Put it back in camera.  The next shot should have the next
number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.
Alternatively, take a new next image, say IMGP9822.  Remove the card
to your computer.  Rename the image to IMGP3700.  Re-install the card
and your next image will be labeled IMGP3701.
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks much Graydon. How would I be able to name an image on the memory 
 card?

 Thanks,

 Jack

 --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:

 From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com
 Subject: Re: Shot Counter
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:06 PM
 On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 04:57:41PM
 -0800, Jack Davis scripsit: [snip]
  Obviously, it won't matter unless I decide to sell it,
 but I let
  Pentax know I am displeased and anxious to learn the
 cause.

 You can set the shot counter to anything by:

 rename an image file on the memory card to imgp.dng or
 _igp.dng

 sticking this memory card in the camera

 power on the camera

 take a picture

 power off the camera

 remove the memory card

 rename that image file to whatever number is one less than
 the number
 you want

 put the card back in the camera

 take a picture

 voila!

 (Haven't actually done this, but it's a logical consequence
 of resets
 to the higher value if there's a higher value on the
 card).

 My current K20D shot counter value is the nicely
 symmetrical 3553; I
 can't remember how many times the counter has been around,
 though; it's
 either twice or thrice.  The 3553 is not an indication
 of relatively low
 usage.

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Re: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread P N Stenquist
Epson's web site support page shows an icc profile for that printer  
and Epson Color Life paper. That's probably about the same as Epson  
glossy photo paper. However, the profile is old and it might not work  
with a late-model OS, but it's free so worth a try. Print as Dave  
described below with PS or LR managing color. In the print box make  
sure color management is turned off.

Paul
On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


Bob, I don't have the 870, and i never had any success printing from
Elements, but, my Epson 2400 came with paper profiles for a ll of the
various Epson papers. I select the paper i want in LR print. Also when
i do a print page setup i make sure i let PS colour manage.

I can say, that for about 75% of the time LR prints out pretty well,
especially my IR shots.
I have your problem the other 25%. I printed off some Santa claus
parade shots of a friend grand kid, and the jacket colour was
different in all 3, but was correct on screen.

Dave

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com  
wrote:

I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson
870 photo printer.
I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with
Photoshop Elements for prints.
Now I would like to make my new system easier and more foolproof.
I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed printing out  
of

Lightroom.
The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up like it was under a  
heatlamp.

I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in sunlight.  Not at all
close to the original.

The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but
colors wander.
Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get
different cast  shades.
HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I have a bunch  
generic

glossy paper
from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I bought from them worked
out so well).

I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer
and I'm jealous.
I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer  
is too old.

I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd ask
for your collective wisdom.

Regards, Bob S.

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Jack Davis
Hey! I don't fool around with small mistakes. I take full advantage of my 
ineptitude!

Jack

--- On Thu, 1/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Shot Counter
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 6:48 AM
 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:33 PM,
 Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yeah, thanks Rod. :-)  D  B are PRETTY far apart
 on the keyboard Jazk.
 
 Not for me:-)
 
 Dave Brooks
 
  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Thanks, Rod. I'm grateful for the information and
 will take a bit of time later to apply it. I'm not concerned
 as to whether the same body and lens were returned to me, of
 that I'm certain.
  I would like to return the image count to
 something close to what is true for obvious reasons. With
 all the advice I'm being given, I now feel that outcome is
 possible.
 
  Thanks all,
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Shot Counter
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:13 PM
  On 07/01/2010, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   I checked both serial numbers first thing
 upon their
  return.
   I called Pentax customer service to let
 them know
  about the question and their preliminary
 response was the
  implication that the information might have
 been a result of
  using a high count memory card by the repair
 service. They
  made a note to follow up.
   Whatever the cause, I mentioned the
 repair service
  advised that regardless of the reason, they
 wouldn't be able
  to turn the counter back.
   Obviously, it won't matter unless I
 decide to sell it,
  but I let Pentax know I am displeased and
 anxious to learn
  the cause.
 
  Hi Jack,
 
  The shot number, ie the one that is used as
 the image file
  mane can be
  reset, it can also be set to any number. The
 internal
  shutter counter
  is the only number that can't be altered, it's
 an up
  counter and
  should register every shutter activation
 whatever the
  operating mode.
 
  The internal shutter count value can be
 determined using
  an
  application such as PhotoME as has been
 mentioned, just
  compare shots
  prior to the camera being sent for repair to
 those shot
  after. There
  should be some advance on the counter but I
 would find it
  hard to
  believe that the shutter would have been
 activated more
  than a few
  hundred times during the repair/testing.
 
  PhotoME also reports an Internal Serial
 Number under the
  Manufacturer notes section, this number I
 would expect
  should not
  differ if the camera is the one you sent for
 repair.
 
  Cheers,
 
  --
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Re: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Bob: At the Epson web site, this was the only ICC Profile I could find 
for a printer called 870, but it's created for Color Life paper, which I've 
never heard of  http://tinyurl.com/d6ftj  , so I don't know what this is 
all about.


Also, in Lightroom, make sure you do the following when printing from the 
print module:


-click Page Set Up
-click Properties
-Under Media Settings look for Mode, then click Custom.  From the dropdown 
menu choose the following:

Off(No Color Adjustment)


In the Lightroom Print module, scroll down to Profile, choose paper profile.

I looked through all the printer names, and I only found the above profiles 
for the Epson Stylus 870.  Custom made profiles might be the way to go if 
you don't want to upgrade your printer, but since  I've never had any 
profiles made, I wouldn't know what company to suggest.  Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870



I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson
870 photo printer.
I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with
Photoshop Elements for prints.
Now I would like to make my new system easier and more foolproof.
I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed printing out of
Lightroom.
The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up like it was under a 
heatlamp.

I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in sunlight.  Not at all
close to the original.

The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but
colors wander.
Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get
different cast  shades.
HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I have a bunch generic
glossy paper
from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I bought from them worked
out so well).

I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer
and I'm jealous.
I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer is too 
old.

I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd ask
for your collective wisdom.

Regards, Bob S.

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Re: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread Christine Aguila
Also, have you done nozzle decogging  whatever other general utilities you 
might have to clean heads etc.  You need to do this, especially if you 
haven't printed in a long time.  Worth a try, no?  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870



I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson
870 photo printer.
I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with
Photoshop Elements for prints.
Now I would like to make my new system easier and more foolproof.
I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed printing out of
Lightroom.
The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up like it was under a 
heatlamp.

I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in sunlight.  Not at all
close to the original.

The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but
colors wander.
Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get
different cast  shades.
HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I have a bunch generic
glossy paper
from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I bought from them worked
out so well).

I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer
and I'm jealous.
I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer is too 
old.

I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd ask
for your collective wisdom.

Regards, Bob S.

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Re: Probably as OT as anything can be...

2010-01-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/5/2010 11:51:08 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
p...@web-options.com writes:
...but if you're looking  for somewhere for your holidays in 2012, why not
visit a Royal  Borough?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8442153.stm

Whatever  that means...

Hopefully it will quadruple the value of my house, to the  levels of the
other 3 RBs.

Royal Bob


===
Means  your house can now wear a crown.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: OT: open message for Bill R.

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 From Underground Weather:
 Friday Night
 Mostly clear. Dangerously cold wind chills. Lows around 12 below. [-24°C] 
 Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 [-34° C] 
 below zero after midnight.
 Saturday
 Sunny. Dangerously cold wind chills. Highs around 5.[-15°C] Northwest winds 
 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero in the morning.


 I agree about the scenic potential, but these are not what I consider ideal 
 weather to be outside taking photos.

We do.;-)

Dave

 stan

 On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Thomas Cakalic wrote:

 I'll take all of that weather you have... makes for fantastic photography...

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Stan Halpin wrote:

 Dear Bill,

 I can't begin to tell you how very much we appreciate your loan of
 Canadian weather. The brisk air, the clean white snow, it is all
 wonderful. However, in fairness to you, I would like to return your
 loan at this time.

 Sincerely,

 Stan

 p.s. If you happen to see Frank, please let him know that we are onto
 him, and will be sending his geese back to him very soon.

 Thanks, Stan. Made my evening.
 :-)


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Re: PESO - Fleas

2010-01-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/9/2009 6:58:54 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
That's what they sell in  flea markets, right?

This was taken in a street market in Basel.   The curved line of glasses 
against the books appealed to  me.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10204536size=lg

(K10D  and DA 16-45)

Rick

=
Nice shot. Just needs some  wine in the glasses (and some cheese).

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Re: -37ºC

2010-01-07 Thread Lasse Karlsson

Impressive, guys.
Don't think I've experienced much colder than around -20C.

Lasse

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Subject: Re: -37ºC



I have, somewhere here, a Polaroid shot of the weather net work red
screen in January of 1996. It was -46C i believe, no wind chill. By
the time i drove from our cabin in Longlac to the office, it had
dipped to -52C, no wind. I got out of the truck, pounded a wood stake
in the ground, just to say i worked at -52.;-)
We were pipe lining for Transcanada at the time and we had to wait
until it ~warmed up~ to -35 C before they could weld.

Dave

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

That's how cold it is this morning.
Gads I hate winter.

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Re: Trafalger Square, That's in London, right?

2010-01-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/24/2009 10:49:50 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
caka...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not a number, I'm a free  man and so are you all.

Tom

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Marnie :-)  But the sentiment is  mostly right.

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread steve harley

On 2010-01-07 08:20 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jack,
Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
repair.  Put it back in camera.  The next shot should have the next
number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.


don't you have to force it to roll over first (beyond  to 0001)?

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Re: Snow event

2010-01-07 Thread steve harley

On 2010-01-07 03:17 , AlunFoto wrote:

2010/1/6 Cottycotty...@mac.com:

BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A


those are _off-road_ truck tires; they might also be good in snow, but 
they won't fit my old SAAB



Over here, by the way, we are having a peculiar case with all-weather
tyres and non-studded winter tyres. The studded tyres are frowned upon
because they erode the tarmac, creating a dust and pollution problem.
So if you want to use them you have to pay extra fees


there was a time when i'd have liked the option to pay that fee -- i 
hand pulled the studs from all four of my my studded Nokian 
Hakkepelittas because while Colorado allows studs, i had just moved to 
Minnesota where they are banned; now i drive very little and just 
replaced a newer 13-year-old set of Hakkepelittas; i don't stud them any 
more even though i'm back in Colorado because i drive so little i often 
keep the snow tires on into the summer a bit


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Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome

2010-01-07 Thread Lasse Karlsson

Thanks, Ken.

Yes, I have started looking into a number of How to:s and tutorials.

I will also start to compare what the Bridge browser has to offer. I've been 
very satisfied in using ACDSee for more than ten years.


Regarding the RAW converter, I actually still haven't been shooting much 
RAW, but now may be the time to start doing it.


And it's typical that you run into some basic screen layout issues that 
annoys you. Made me go back to PS5 where I've got the layout I like...


Has there been any other particular improvements of the use of tools and 
filters?


Lasse

From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome

Hi Lasse,
I'm still on CS2, having arrived here a while back from PS 5 then PS 7.
You'll really appreciate all the additions from PS 5.

A few that I use alot (and can remember) are:



+ the browser - Adobe Bridge

+ the RAW convertor

+ highlight/shadow adjustment

+ ability to scroll multiple images at the same time

It might be helpful to get a book on CS4.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Lasse Karlsson ma20...@aland.net

Subject: A giant leap... some advice welcome

Hi all,
I hope everyone is well and not badly struck by the cold weather in many
parts of the world. Up here in Scandinavia, people are mostly enjoying a
proper winter, which we haven't seen for quite a few years.
Anyway, there has ocurred a very small step for the art of photography,
but a giant leap to me...
After having been using Photoshop 5 uptil now, Santa has enabled me to
start working with PS CS4.

This means that I haven't been following or learned about the new 
versions

or upgrades of PS since the v. 5.
As a way to start to learn what new there is to me, I thought I'd ask
those of you who have been using later versions, if you maybe could point
to or list some of the new features and improvements since v.5, which you
have found particularly useful to your work and which may be the most
obvious improvements to me (if you can recall that far back at 
all... ) ).


One obvious thing I already learned, is that I definitely have to get
myself a new, more powerful computer...

Any pointers or advice welcome.

Thanks,
Lasse 



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Re: Photographers Ephemeris

2010-01-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/6/2010 1:59:17 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
At my weekly brunch this morning  someone mentioned a small free-ware 
application called the Photographer's  Ephemeris. Requires Adobe AIR, 
which I think you should already have if  you're using Photoshop or  
Lightroom.

http://stephentrainor.com/tools



This  is cool, thanks for sharing.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: peso mushrooms at night

2010-01-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/5/2010 11:28:59 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
Here's one I particularly  like:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4249761021/sizes/o/

From  this  set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623150326000/
Which  has a few I shot during the day on Sunday as well.

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First is very nice. Of  the group, second link, especially like #3.

You've given me an idea.  :-)

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Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome

2010-01-07 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:


Thanks, Ken.

Yes, I have started looking into a number of How to:s and tutorials.

I will also start to compare what the Bridge browser has to offer.  
I've been very satisfied in using ACDSee for more than ten years.


Regarding the RAW converter, I actually still haven't been shooting  
much RAW, but now may be the time to start doing it.


And it's typical that you run into some basic screen layout issues  
that annoys you. Made me go back to PS5 where I've got the layout I  
like...


Has there been any other particular improvements of the use of tools  
and filters?


Far too many to mention, and many that I'm not aware of. But there are  
certainly some much more useful filters. Smart Sharpen, to name one,  
allows much more effective and specific sharpening than Unsharp Mask,  
although both can be useful. The Photo Filters are great for  
correcting white balance issues when you don't shoot RAW. The noise  
reduction filters in CS4 are pretty much the equal of add-on software  
solutions. One of my favorite tool improvements is the seeing eye of  
the clone tool. It shows you exactly where you're placing cloned  
material. This is great when you need perfect alignment for edges or  
lines. The BW conversion function is much more sophisticated than  
before, and allows you to adjust the grey values of six colors  
individually.  And much more.

Paul


Lasse

From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome

Hi Lasse,
I'm still on CS2, having arrived here a while back from PS 5 then  
PS 7.

You'll really appreciate all the additions from PS 5.

A few that I use alot (and can remember) are:



+ the browser - Adobe Bridge

+ the RAW convertor

+ highlight/shadow adjustment

+ ability to scroll multiple images at the same time

It might be helpful to get a book on CS4.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Lasse Karlsson ma20...@aland.net 


Subject: A giant leap... some advice welcome

Hi all,
I hope everyone is well and not badly struck by the cold weather  
in many
parts of the world. Up here in Scandinavia, people are mostly  
enjoying a

proper winter, which we haven't seen for quite a few years.
Anyway, there has ocurred a very small step for the art of  
photography,

but a giant leap to me...
After having been using Photoshop 5 uptil now, Santa has enabled  
me to

start working with PS CS4.

This means that I haven't been following or learned about the new  
versions

or upgrades of PS since the v. 5.
As a way to start to learn what new there is to me, I thought I'd  
ask
those of you who have been using later versions, if you maybe  
could point
to or list some of the new features and improvements since v.5,  
which you
have found particularly useful to your work and which may be the  
most
obvious improvements to me (if you can recall that far back at  
all... ) ).


One obvious thing I already learned, is that I definitely have to  
get

myself a new, more powerful computer...

Any pointers or advice welcome.

Thanks,
Lasse



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Re: PESO - Subversive Activities

2010-01-07 Thread Rick Womer
The situation is even worse in the UK, where the phone booths have joined the 
scooters!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9969239size=lg

Rick

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 Must be some sort of meeting or
 convention.  Probably commies or
 socialists.  They drive scooters, don't they?
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/subversive-activities.html
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: Photographers Ephemeris

2010-01-07 Thread Thomas Cakalic
Nice... Thanks.

Tom

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:58 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 At my weekly brunch this morning someone mentioned a small free-ware
 application called the Photographer's Ephemeris. Requires Adobe AIR, which I
 think you should already have if you're using Photoshop or Lightroom.

 http://stephentrainor.com/tools

 I downloaded the program and am taking a first look - haven't even finished
 reading the instructions, but I'm already impressed enough I thought I'd
 pass it along.

 It uses Google maps and locates a point on them. You can place the point
 around anywhere you want it. It's not locked to the streets like streetview
 is. I plugged in my own address and it locates the point right in the middle
 of my property.

 FROM your chosen point it shows a graphic line to the sunrise, sunset,
 moonrise, moonset for any chosen date, along with the times, azimuth and
 percentage of illumination for the moon.

 There's an advanced view that allows you to show the line to the sun and
  the moon for any time during a chosen date.

 Want to know where you need to stand to get the full moon framed by the mile
 high swinging bridge at GFM? What time and what dates?

 Want to know if you can get the sunrise framed in the attic window?

 You want to catch the full moon (quarter moon, new moon) rising or setting
 over some landscape feature?

 The program can tell you exactly where to stand (within the limits of google
 maps ~ a couple of meters most places.)

 The only lack I'm aware of is it doesn't appear to have a print function,
 but I was told you can use print screen function under Windows (or however
 the Mac does it) and paste it from the clipboard).


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Re: -37ºC

2010-01-07 Thread Keith Whaley

David Savage wrote:

I bet.




2010/1/7 William Robb war...@gmail.com:

That's how cold it is this morning.
Gads I hate winter.


Bill, in 3 more years, you'll be catching up to MY age, and I hate Winter, 
too. I grew up just south of Lake Erie, and got to know the lake effect 
snows. Drifts, packed snow/ice that stayed all Winter... that was then, middle 
third of the 20th century.


Then I moved to So Cal, where [Praise BE!] I see no snow or sub-freezing 
weather.
That was back in '58, and it was the best move I ever made.

I once felt -33° in Iowa, but I was traveling thru. I kept going. :-D

Best to ya!

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
No, I think it's any number you start with.
That's how I remember it working on the K-10.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 On 2010-01-07 08:20 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Jack,
 Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
 repair.  Put it back in camera.  The next shot should have the next
 number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.

 don't you have to force it to roll over first (beyond  to 0001)?

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Dario Bonazza

It depends on the relevant memory menu setting.
Dario

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Subject: Re: Shot Counter


No, I think it's any number you start with.
That's how I remember it working on the K-10.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:36 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

On 2010-01-07 08:20 , Bob Sullivan wrote:


Jack,
Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
repair. Put it back in camera. The next shot should have the next
number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.


don't you have to force it to roll over first (beyond  to 0001)?

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Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling

That looks like the most bizarre sensor defect imaginable.

On 1/6/2010 4:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com

Subject: K20D - Hot pixel ?


After approx 3850 images, my K20D started producing a defect in the 
images, not related to SD card or battery charge. It occurs at all 
ISO's, all lenses, shutter speeds  apertures. Interestingly it is 
not apparent in live view.
I've run the pixel mapping routine several time with no affect on 
this spot.


It evidences itself as a noticeable bright spot near the RH edge of 
the image (in landscape orientation), with a vertical black line from 
top to bottom running thru the spot.


Its close enough to the RH edge that it can be cropped out with only 
a small loss of image size, but I don't want to have to crop every 
image.


The body will probably find its way to Pentax Repair, but I thought 
I'd get some input from the collective minds on the list. Depending 
on the cost to repair, this may push me into getting a K7.


Your thoughts are welcomed

Kenneth Waller
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PDML book update: 1 week in

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
One week into the submittal period for the 2010 book we're off to a
splendid start. If what we've received so far is any indication, the
2010 book will be even better than last year's edition.

Upload your best shots of 2009 at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

Oh, and as an addition to the web version of last year's book I've
added a Flash version for the Flashophiles. I generated it through
Lightroom, which offers only limited customization, so the images are
in alphabetical order (by file name) rather than in the order in which
they appear in the book. Still looks pretty good:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html
HTML only:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html 

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Re: PDML book update: 1 week in

2010-01-07 Thread David J Brooks
Looks good.

Actually had a hard time finding three worthy of sending in. I
narrowed it down to six images, and then picked the three i liked the
best. I then changed them when Liz said she liked the other three
better.

Dave

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 One week into the submittal period for the 2010 book we're off to a
 splendid start. If what we've received so far is any indication, the
 2010 book will be even better than last year's edition.

 Upload your best shots of 2009 at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

 Oh, and as an addition to the web version of last year's book I've
 added a Flash version for the Flashophiles. I generated it through
 Lightroom, which offers only limited customization, so the images are
 in alphabetical order (by file name) rather than in the order in which
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 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html
 HTML only:
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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling
I doubt it.  They just tested it with a card that had a shot on it 
labeled with a number around 9800+  They probably shot 50-100 shots to 
test the camera so you got 9900.


To set it back use this procedure.

1.)  Put an take a shot. on a clean sd card.

2.)  On you PC/MAC/whatever flavor of LINIX/UNIX mount the card and 
renumber it to .xxx


3.) Put that card back into the camera take a two shots.

Now all the photos you take will be in the \DCIM\200PENTX directory,  
but the new number will be 0001.xxx


4.) Take the card back to the computer and get rid of that directory and 
make sure there's a file in the 100PENTX directory numbered 
53xx.xxx. Basically  one number before the frame you want the 
counter to start at. (and yes I ended that sentence badly).


5.) Put the card back into the camera an make an exposure.

At this point your frame counter will be back to where you want it.  The 
internal counter shutter counter won't agree, but it doesn't agree now 
most likely.


On 1/6/2010 4:26 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I mentioned having received my K20 and 16~45 back from Pentax repair a couple 
days ago.
I noticed the K20 shot counter now indicates 9900 frames and upon checking some 
images found that it showed 'prox 5300 at the time it was sent in.

K20D repair record; Replaced body bayonet mount.
 Repaired autofocus drive unit.
 Adjusted to manufacturers specifications.
 General check and clean.

16~45 repair record: Replaced lens bayonet mount.
  Replaced main barrel.
  Repaired focus mechanism.
  Adjusted to manufacturers specifications.
  General check and clean.

I checked the K20 serial number when returned.
Pentax repair says they have no way of turning the counter back, but will check 
into it a advise. I asked for a phone call when they have an answer.
Could an internal component have been installed from a used body. This is 
what I told them concerned me. Don't even know if that's possible.
I'll post their answer.

Any thoughts?

Jack

   

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:06 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 there is no true normal, normal is not an exact defintion of a focal
 length, and 50mm was what came with many many slrs for many years, one
 could argue that that was normal, not 43mm or 55mm
  on film
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A 'True Normal' is a lens with the focal length approximately equal to
the diagonal of the format, for 35mm this is an approximately 43mm
lens. Normal does have a standard definition of focal length, but 35mm
(and 645 MF) generally ignore this for a slightly longer 'normal'.

And yes, 50mm is the traditional normal length for 35mm, but it is not
a 'true normal' in any respect, it was chosen solely because Oskar
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Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?

2010-01-07 Thread Tom C
I hypothesize that we are seeing the first visible evidence of a
miniature black hole. The Large Hadron Collider started operating some
bit over a year ago and experienced operating anomalies.

An excerpt from a science website reads:

That is not to say that the new collider might not actually create
mini-black holes, as no one knows for sure what will emerge from the
debris of the LHC collisions. Black holes are thought to represent the
ultimate state of compressed matter, with gravity so powerful that any
bit of matter, and even light, would be sucked inexorably inwards with
no chance for escape if it gets too close to the black hole's
boundary.

In their study of the matter, Steve Giddings of the University of
California at Santa Barbara and Michelangelo Mangano of the European
Organization for Nuclear Research (the parent laboratory where LHC
operates) look at what happens if there existed a type of black hole,
one we'd be concerned about, that could not only survive but would
continue to grow to a macroscopic size in a time shorter than billions
of years

Ken, I recall you recently stating that as time passes it has become
more tiring to lug your photo gear into the field.  Considering the
super-massive properties of even miniature black holes, there could be
a correlation.

The white ring of light around the black center could be evidence of
super-heated photons being compressed as they approach the event
horizon. And the 2-dimensional vertical black line indicates the force
lines that have trapped and locked the black hole in the sensor
matrix.

Black holes are perhaps the most profound and mysterious objects
we've imagined. Being able to create and study them should teach us a
lot. In particular, it can teach us about how quantum mechanics can be
reconciled with gravity; it could allow us to explore extra dimensions
of space and time; and it may tell us something about an ultimate
unified theory of physics.

All things concerned Ken, I consider you very very lucky.

Tom C.






On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That looks like the most bizarre sensor defect imaginable.

 On 1/6/2010 4:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf


 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com

 Subject: K20D - Hot pixel ?


 After approx 3850 images, my K20D started producing a defect in the
 images, not related to SD card or battery charge. It occurs at all ISO's,
 all lenses, shutter speeds  apertures. Interestingly it is not apparent in
 live view.
 I've run the pixel mapping routine several time with no affect on this
 spot.

 It evidences itself as a noticeable bright spot near the RH edge of the
 image (in landscape orientation), with a vertical black line from top to
 bottom running thru the spot.

 Its close enough to the RH edge that it can be cropped out with only a
 small loss of image size, but I don't want to have to crop every image.

 The body will probably find its way to Pentax Repair, but I thought I'd
 get some input from the collective minds on the list. Depending on the cost
 to repair, this may push me into getting a K7.

 Your thoughts are welcomed

 Kenneth Waller
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Re: Weather

2010-01-07 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:41 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
  Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate
  seed looked like somebody's liver.

 Everyone is a critic. And it will do no good to explain your artistic
 intent - if she doesn't get it, she just doesn't get it.

Oh, I didn't bother to explain my artistic intent, but I did take the
second or two to explain that it was a pomegranate seed ... Her take
on it amused me more than anything else, though I did later decide
that shot didn't have enough contrast and found one lit from a different
angle that I liked better. 

 Hopefully she makes good cake and cookies, and then you can her 
 overlook her other shortcomings...

Pie more than cake and cookies, and random dinner-type stuff, and
quite yummy (plus, raiding her kitchen for snacks gives me access 
to hummus and halloumi and those wrinkly, dark-as-Darth-Vader's-soul,
bitter olives I like so much, and other things I never have enough
slack for in my grocery budget to buy for myself.

Now if I could wean her off of conservative cable news programs ...

 Happy New Year and best wishes for a swift recovery!

Thanks.  I'm still holed up here for a little longer because Mom
has heat and my house doesn't at the moment, but I'm feeling much
better than I had been.  I've made it to the last two band 
rehearsals (we have a gig Saturday), and my bandmates tell me I
look and sound better than I did _before_ I got the flu that 
brought along the pneumonia as a hitchiker.  Still bloody tired
though.

-- Glenn

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Re: Snow event

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller
Watching the daily reruns of the 2010 Dakar (being run in South America) I 
was surprised to hear the announcer state that all the trucks  cars were on 
BFG t(y)ires.


BFG has a good reputation in the states for their t(y)ires, but I wasn't 
aware they had a significant presence elsewhere.


GO ROBBIE !

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- Original Message - 
From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Snow event


2010/1/6 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:

On 6/1/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

Make sure you have good tyres, mate. Drive save.

BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A

http://www.tyre-pictures.com/BFGoodrich/AllTerrainTAKO.jpg

best in the business :-)


I trust you to select well. Much better than I would anyway... :-)
I just have this little pet anxiety over groove depth and tyre
performance. That's what's in good for me...

Over here, by the way, we are having a peculiar case with all-weather
tyres and non-studded winter tyres. The studded tyres are frowned upon
because they erode the tarmac, creating a dust and pollution problem.
So if you want to use them you have to pay extra fees (£100 per
season). The result is that most people have converted to non-studded
tyres. However, where studs roughens the ice, the non-studded ones
will polish it. And currently we see an increase in accidents caused
by people losing the road grip.

Jostein

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Re: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
2010-Jan 7:: Bob Sullivan to PDML

 I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson 870 
 photo printer. I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with 
 Photoshop Elements for prints. Now I would like to make my new system easier 
 and more foolproof. I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed 
 printing out of Lightroom. The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up 
 like it was under a heatlamp. I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in 
 sunlight.  Not at all close to the original.

 The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but colors 
 wander. Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get 
 different cast  shades. HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I 
 have a bunch generic glossy paper from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I 
 bought from them worked out so well).

 I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer and I'm 
 jealous. I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer 
 is too old. I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd 
 ask for your collective wisdom.

 Regards, Bob S.

Hi Bob,

The goal of a color managed workflow is that what you see on the
screen can be matched through the use of display calibration and
profiling across systems and out to printers, utilizing paper
profiles.

The Epson Photo 870 was the 'narrow' carriage variant of the Epson
Photo 1270 (I still own one of those..). On Mac OS X, and on Windows
too I imagine, the paper profiles for a range of standard papers are
installed with the driver package. Additional paper profiles are
available from the Epson website as well as from third party paper
vendors and paper manufacturers (Atlex, InkjetArt, Hahnemühle, Ilford,
Harman, etc). How many varieties of paper profiles are available is
hard to say ... I haven't looked too hard.

But the absolutely important thing to realize is that the color
management system is *critical* on specifically what printer and
printer settings, what inks and what paper you are using in
conjunction with the paper profiles. One you understand that, you will
see that it is important that you follow a rigorous set of setup steps
to get exactly the right settings for your printing use. Once you do
that, printing with high fidelity from the screen becomes pretty easy
and very consistent. If you substitute third party inks or alternative
papers, no matter how similar they might appear to the Epson inks and
whatever reference paper you want to choose, color management fails.

So ... hardware config:

- Calibrate and profile your monitor. For a Windows system, it is
probably best to choose targets like 110 cd/mm^2 Luminance, 2.2 gamma,
white point 6500K. (My targets on Mac OS X are 110 L, 1.8 gamma, 5500K
white point.) Be sure the monitor profile generated by this
calibration and profiling step is installed and chosed by the OS
preference set up.

- Be sure your Epson 870 printer driver is up to date and the full
Epson package for the printer is installed for your OS version. Be
sure that you're using original Epson ink cartridges in the printer
and that the heads are clean. Be sure you're using Epson Premium
Glossy Photo Paper as a reference starting point.

Now you can go into Lightroom and start working.

Lightroom takes no application setup for the working colorspace, it's
automatic: it always promotes all operations to 16bits per channel and
uses a ProPhoto RGB gamma 2.2 colorspace.

Presuming that you've imported and adjusted a photo to be exactly the
way you want to print it, click on it in the grid and go to the Print
module.

1- In the Template Browser, click on the Lightroom template to
Maximize Size. This is a starting point.

note: Mac OS X and Windows vary a little in how they present the
printer settings. Mac OS X has traditionally used the notion of two
settings phases, the Page Setup and the Printer Settings, where
Windows has traditionally combined them. Both are continuing to
change, so read the next two steps and interpret them for your
specific OS/printer interfaces. I write them as Mac OS X v10.5.6
instructions, but the concepts are similar on all versions of both
OSes.

2a- Lower left corner, click on the Page Setup button. Here you will
choose your printer, choose the paper size and feed type as well as
the paper orientation. Click OK.

2b- Lower left corner, click on the Print Settings button. This brings
up the printer drivers' interface. In my version of the driver, I pick
first Print Settings from the popup menu. I set

media type: Premium Glossy Photo Paper
mode: advanced settings
print quality: Photo-1440 dpi
halftoning: High Quality halftoning

Then I pick Color Management from the popup menu. I set

No Color Adjustment

Now click the Save button.

What this has done is to record the printer driver's settings for
Lightroom, organizing which printer queue, which paper size and
orientation, what media 

Re: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller
In my experience with older Epson printers, if you're using Epson paper  
inks on an Epson printer you shouldn't need custom profiles.


Sound like there is something amiss in your set up. - like are you using the 
monitor calibration profile ?


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

Subject: Lightroom printing on an Epson 870



I've always had difficulties with colors in printing on my old Epson
870 photo printer.
I don't do it very often, and learned how to 'get along' with
Photoshop Elements for prints.
Now I would like to make my new system easier and more foolproof.
I've calibrated the monitor, but was very disappointed printing out of
Lightroom.
The steel gray minivan I photographed showed up like it was under a 
heatlamp.

I had a red or magenta cast on a photo taken in sunlight.  Not at all
close to the original.

The Epson 870 might be 5 years old?  Resolution is satisfactory, but
colors wander.
Depending on what glossy photo paper I put in the printer, I get
different cast  shades.
HP  Epson glossy papers are not the answer and I have a bunch generic
glossy paper
from Staples (because the first 50 sheets I bought from them worked
out so well).

I hear you guys talk about selecting a paper profile from the printer
and I'm jealous.
I don't have any profiles to select from and I suspect the printer is too 
old.

I've recently looked into creating some profiles, but thought I'd ask
for your collective wisdom.

Regards, Bob S.



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Re: PESO 2010 - 001, 003 - GDG

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller

Same here, I was surprised to still see the fallen leaves !

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: PESO 2010 - 001, 003 - GDG


Thats lovely. Hard to believe fall colours when we are under 2' of snow.;-)

Dave

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:

The Slow Time ...

http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-slow-time

Comments always welcome, thanks for looking.

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller

You mean we've been forked.

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Subject: Re: Wide angle for K-X?



On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:

There is no spoon


Explains why my soup drips off the fork.

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not Graydon, but you mount it on your computer and rename it like 
any other file.


On 1/7/2010 9:13 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks much Graydon. How would I be able to name an image on the memory card?

Thanks,

Jack

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From: Graydono...@uniserve.com
Subject: Re: Shot Counter
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:06 PM
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 04:57:41PM
-0800, Jack Davis scripsit: [snip]
 

Obviously, it won't matter unless I decide to sell it,
   

but I let
 

Pentax know I am displeased and anxious to learn the
   

cause.

You can set the shot counter to anything by:

rename an image file on the memory card to imgp.dng or
_igp.dng

sticking this memory card in the camera

power on the camera

take a picture

power off the camera

remove the memory card

rename that image file to whatever number is one less than
the number
you want

put the card back in the camera

take a picture

voila!

(Haven't actually done this, but it's a logical consequence
of resets
to the higher value if there's a higher value on the
card).

My current K20D shot counter value is the nicely
symmetrical 3553; I
can't remember how many times the counter has been around,
though; it's
either twice or thrice.  The 3553 is not an indication
of relatively low
usage.

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Whingeing about workflow

2010-01-07 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
At the family Christmas party, my brother's father-in-law (there's
gotta be a shorter way to say that) asked about my photography and
whether I did it for money, and I commented that if I were any good
at the _marketing_, I'd do it for money.  He asked me to round up 
a sampling of my work and he'd see whether he could do anything 
to help with the marketing angle.  So I've been going through a lot
of my recent-ish backlog, picking out portfolio-worthy shots to edit
into shape.  (When I go back home, I'll fire up the scanner; here
at Mom's house, I'm going by what I have on hand on CF cards, CD, 
and cluttering up my laptop's hard drive.)

The first step, of course, is to decide which photos are worth
spending any time on.  I'm also trying to get some of these folders
of photos moved off onto CD to free up space on the laptop.  So I'm
going through lots of images, deciding which to copy (well, hard-link)
to the possible portfolio candidates folder to take a closer look
at later and maybe fire up GIMP on.

And it strikes me that when I'm going through a collection of photos
where I tried different angles and lighting on the same subject, or
where I shot lots of frames of some event, that culling the duds and
picking out which of the good shots to consider redundant ... was a 
whole lot easier when I was sorting through a stack of 4x6 glossy
proofs that I could easily shuffle, look at in twos and threes next
to each other, etc.  I haven't found an approach yet that feels 
anywhere near as smooth or natural on the computer.

And that's even before we get into the whole business with corrections
and adjustments the folks at the lab did for me when I was paying 
somebody to develop and print.  (OTOH, an awful lot of film from the
last couple of years before I got the *istD is still in the freezer
waiting for me to be able to afford to have somebody develop and print
it, so even though digital is a lot more work, I'm actually _seeing_
what I've shot instead of tossing it in the freezer to hopefully see
someday.)

At the aforementioned Christmas party, folks saw me shooting with a
Fancy Camera (i.e. not a PS, and with a big ol' flash unit stuck on
the shoe), and asked when they'd see the pictures.  So I made an
effort to winnow that evening's shots and tweak (crop/levels/etc.)
the good ones in time to hand a CD to my brother two days later when
I knew he'd be stopping by.  I didn't keep close track, but it was
something like 16 hours of editing for one party worth (three or 
four hours) of mostly casual shooting[*].  

I'm sure I'll get faster at this as I go on.  But I suspect that
choosing a subject, composing the shot, working out lighting, and
operating the camera will all continue to count as The Easy Part.
(Maybe I need to team up with somebody who doesn't like taking
photos but loves editing them, and whose aesthetic closely resembles
mine.)  In the meantime, I guess I ought to crawl through the 
mailing list archives for advice on digital workflow and tools that
I skipped over before.

Anyhow, I just felt a need to whine about how long this instant
technology is taking me.  Now to get back to editing instead of
whining for a while ...

-- Glenn

[*] I did go into Serious Photographer mode to try to capture the
smokestack on the cardboard-box hotel my nepphew made out of the
box a gigantic flat-screen television had come in -- my brother
stuck a humidifier inside so the mist would come out the chimney
and look like smoke.

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Re: GESO fun and games

2010-01-07 Thread mike wilson

David Savage wrote:


2010/1/6 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/sledge

Taken with a camera and a couple of lenses.



That looks like fun.

We do a similar thing on beach sand dunes and a esky lid.


Esky?

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Non-whiny addendum to whine

2010-01-07 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
After complaing about how much work digital photography is, 
I should probably also reflect on how grateful I am to have
the tools with which to _do_ this work:  the *istD (that I
have not forgotten I still owe money for), lenses I never
would have been able to afford on my own, and the PowerBook
handed down from a bandmate who upgraded (I can run GIMP just
fine on my Linux machines at home, but wouldn't be able to 
do this from my Mom's house w/o the laptop).

So yeah, the only reason I know how much work this is, is
because I'm fortunate enough to have the tools to do the work
in the first place.

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling
I let this pass before, since there's not any point in arguing with 
someone who /knows/ /everything/ .


True normal is a convention.  That convention is the normal focal lenght 
is the diagonal of the film or in modern day sensor format.  Most non 
35mm cameras with fixed lenses have a normal focal lenght that follows 
that rule. For 6x9 it's 105mm or if you prefer inches 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 
works out to about 4 inches, 4x5 is approximately a 6 inch lens as as 
examples.  If you look at most any fixed camera made by any manufacturer 
in the last 100 years you'll find that the manufacturer fitted it with a 
normal lens.  That's been the definition since at least the turn of 
the last century.


There are historical reasons that 50~58mm lenses were sold as normal 
lenses on interchangeable lens 35mm cameras, but that was an exception 
to the general rule.  Because of this there was some bleed over from the 
interchangeable lens category to fixed lens 35mm cameras.  Even with 
that a lot of fixed lens35mm cameras were manufactured with 40-45mm lenses.


35mm SLRs are not the end all and be all of photography.

 With that I'll say no more on the subject, at least not in this thread.

On 1/7/2010 10:06 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

there is no true normal, normal is not an exact defintion of a focal
length, and 50mm was what came with many many slrs for many years, one
could argue that that was normal, not 43mm or 55mm
  on film
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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Wide angle for K-X?


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, J.C. O'Connellhifis...@gate.net
wrote:
   

right on the 35, but the 28 is wider than most
anything called normal in the old days, I recall
when 55mm on 35mm film was normal.  Regardless,
the K24/3.5 is pretty damn good too, which I forgot
to mention...

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28mm is a 42mm-e on APS-C, pretty much exactly the same as Pentax's 43mm
'true normal' and right on the 40-45mm normal range that was typical for
fixed-lens RF's and PS's back in the day as well as being moderately
common in SLR's from the mid-70's on. A 35 is a long normal on APS-C.

55mm as a normal was only ever an abberation of 60's SLR designs, as it
was a bit easier to design for a SLR mount than 50mm that had been the
the 'normal' for 35mm since the original Leica was introduced in the
late 1920's. Many systems never even had a 55 normal or only had exotic
55's (usually an f1.2 or a macro). 55's as the standard on SLR's only
lasted about 15 years from the early 60's to the late 70's, which was
also when 40's and 45's became increasingly common as normals from
Leica, Minolta, Nikon, Zeiss (Contax) Olympus and Pentax. Canon, Olympus
and Nikon only did exotic 55's.

35mm has traditionally had a longer normal than other formats, due to
Oskar Barnack's taste in lenses.

   



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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 08/01/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I doubt it.  They just tested it with a card that had a shot on it labeled
 with a number around 9800+  They probably shot 50-100 shots to test the
 camera so you got 9900.

 To set it back use this procedure.

 1.)  Put an take a shot. on a clean sd card.

 2.)  On you PC/MAC/whatever flavor of LINIX/UNIX mount the card and renumber
 it to .xxx

 3.) Put that card back into the camera take a two shots.

 Now all the photos you take will be in the \DCIM\200PENTX directory,  but
 the new number will be 0001.xxx

 4.) Take the card back to the computer and get rid of that directory and
 make sure there's a file in the 100PENTX directory numbered 53xx.xxx.
 Basically  one number before the frame you want the counter to start at.
 (and yes I ended that sentence badly).

 5.) Put the card back into the camera an make an exposure.

 At this point your frame counter will be back to where you want it.  The
 internal counter shutter counter won't agree, but it doesn't agree now most
 likely.

That's essentially how I've done it to bring replacement bodies into
line with my existing image numbers. Once the new number has been
adopted by the camera you can re-enable the memory function and it
won't lose track again.

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Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks to all for looking.

Apparently it is not a wide spread defect.


Doug - The shot of the defect is from a Tiff that was made directly from the 
RAW capture (DNG).

On other images, the black line (column) is constant in width  color.

I've printed off the mailing label  boxed the body - I'll mail it tomorrow.


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?



On 2010-01-06 17:08, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jan 6, 2010, at 15:03, Ken Waller wrote:


Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf



That is really, really weird.


That is really strange.  Is the lower crop from PEF or JPG?  Is it full 
one-for-one-pixel resolution from the original?  The circular white part 
looks entirely too circular.  There's some curious artifacting inside the 
black spot that's inside the white spot.


The black column seems to fade back almost to normal colors by the bottom 
of the image, but to be about full strength at the top edge. If you zoom 
in enough (like 10:1) you can see that the black line fades completely 
away as it intersects with the white spot.  The black could be from the 
effects of a failure at one pixel on the pixels around it at either the 
hardware or the software.


Can you shoot something like a Chromakey background (pretty uniform color 
across the frame)?  Can you provide an 800% or so zoom of the original 
resolution that only includes that white spot, in GIF or PNG format to 
avoid JPEG's machinations?


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Re: PDML book update: 1 week in

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html
HTML only:
Should be:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/index.html 

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling

But is there a fork?

On 1/7/2010 10:07 AM, David Savage wrote:

There is no spoon

2010/1/7 J.C. O'Connellhifis...@gate.net:
   

there is no true normal, normal is not an exact defintion of a focal
length, and 50mm was what came with many many slrs for many years, one
could argue that that was normal, not 43mm or 55mm
  on film
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, J.C. O'Connellhifis...@gate.net
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right on the 35, but the 28 is wider than most
anything called normal in the old days, I recall
when 55mm on 35mm film was normal.  Regardless,
the K24/3.5 is pretty damn good too, which I forgot
to mention...

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28mm is a 42mm-e on APS-C, pretty much exactly the same as Pentax's 43mm
'true normal' and right on the 40-45mm normal range that was typical for
fixed-lens RF's and PS's back in the day as well as being moderately
common in SLR's from the mid-70's on. A 35 is a long normal on APS-C.

55mm as a normal was only ever an abberation of 60's SLR designs, as it
was a bit easier to design for a SLR mount than 50mm that had been the
the 'normal' for 35mm since the original Leica was introduced in the
late 1920's. Many systems never even had a 55 normal or only had exotic
55's (usually an f1.2 or a macro). 55's as the standard on SLR's only
lasted about 15 years from the early 60's to the late 70's, which was
also when 40's and 45's became increasingly common as normals from
Leica, Minolta, Nikon, Zeiss (Contax) Olympus and Pentax. Canon, Olympus
and Nikon only did exotic 55's.

35mm has traditionally had a longer normal than other formats, due to
Oskar Barnack's taste in lenses.

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Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller
I'm sure there are many, many more improvements over PS 5, but I've been 
using CS2 for so long I can't recall what was missing in PS 5.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome




On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:


Thanks, Ken.

Yes, I have started looking into a number of How to:s and tutorials.

I will also start to compare what the Bridge browser has to offer.  I've 
been very satisfied in using ACDSee for more than ten years.


Regarding the RAW converter, I actually still haven't been shooting  much 
RAW, but now may be the time to start doing it.


And it's typical that you run into some basic screen layout issues  that 
annoys you. Made me go back to PS5 where I've got the layout I  like...


Has there been any other particular improvements of the use of tools  and 
filters?


Far too many to mention, and many that I'm not aware of. But there are 
certainly some much more useful filters. Smart Sharpen, to name one, 
allows much more effective and specific sharpening than Unsharp Mask, 
although both can be useful. The Photo Filters are great for  correcting 
white balance issues when you don't shoot RAW. The noise  reduction 
filters in CS4 are pretty much the equal of add-on software  solutions. 
One of my favorite tool improvements is the seeing eye of  the clone 
tool. It shows you exactly where you're placing cloned  material. This is 
great when you need perfect alignment for edges or  lines. The BW 
conversion function is much more sophisticated than  before, and allows 
you to adjust the grey values of six colors  individually.  And much more.

Paul


Lasse

From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: A giant leap... some advice welcome

Hi Lasse,
I'm still on CS2, having arrived here a while back from PS 5 then  PS 7.
You'll really appreciate all the additions from PS 5.

A few that I use alot (and can remember) are:



+ the browser - Adobe Bridge

+ the RAW convertor

+ highlight/shadow adjustment

+ ability to scroll multiple images at the same time

It might be helpful to get a book on CS4.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Lasse Karlsson ma20...@aland.net

Subject: A giant leap... some advice welcome

Hi all,
I hope everyone is well and not badly struck by the cold weather  in 
many
parts of the world. Up here in Scandinavia, people are mostly  enjoying 
a

proper winter, which we haven't seen for quite a few years.
Anyway, there has ocurred a very small step for the art of 
photography,

but a giant leap to me...
After having been using Photoshop 5 uptil now, Santa has enabled  me to
start working with PS CS4.

This means that I haven't been following or learned about the new 
versions

or upgrades of PS since the v. 5.
As a way to start to learn what new there is to me, I thought I'd  ask
those of you who have been using later versions, if you maybe  could 
point
to or list some of the new features and improvements since v.5,  which 
you

have found particularly useful to your work and which may be the  most
obvious improvements to me (if you can recall that far back at 
 all... ) ).


One obvious thing I already learned, is that I definitely have to  get
myself a new, more powerful computer...

Any pointers or advice welcome.

Thanks,
Lasse



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Re: PDML book update: 1 week in

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html
HTML only:
Should be:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/index.html 


Also, the PDF file of the images is at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/pdf/book2008.pdf 

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Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?

2010-01-07 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com


Subject: Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?



I hypothesize that we are seeing the first visible evidence of a
miniature black hole. The Large Hadron Collider started operating some
bit over a year ago and experienced operating anomalies.

An excerpt from a science website reads:

That is not to say that the new collider might not actually create
mini-black holes, as no one knows for sure what will emerge from the
debris of the LHC collisions. Black holes are thought to represent the
ultimate state of compressed matter, with gravity so powerful that any
bit of matter, and even light, would be sucked inexorably inwards with
no chance for escape if it gets too close to the black hole's
boundary.

In their study of the matter, Steve Giddings of the University of
California at Santa Barbara and Michelangelo Mangano of the European
Organization for Nuclear Research (the parent laboratory where LHC
operates) look at what happens if there existed a type of black hole,
one we'd be concerned about, that could not only survive but would
continue to grow to a macroscopic size in a time shorter than billions
of years

Ken, I recall you recently stating that as time passes it has become
more tiring to lug your photo gear into the field.  Considering the
super-massive properties of even miniature black holes, there could be
a correlation.

The white ring of light around the black center could be evidence of
super-heated photons being compressed as they approach the event
horizon. And the 2-dimensional vertical black line indicates the force
lines that have trapped and locked the black hole in the sensor
matrix.

Black holes are perhaps the most profound and mysterious objects
we've imagined. Being able to create and study them should teach us a
lot. In particular, it can teach us about how quantum mechanics can be
reconciled with gravity; it could allow us to explore extra dimensions
of space and time; and it may tell us something about an ultimate
unified theory of physics.

All things concerned Ken, I consider you very very lucky.


Me too. At least I didn't get sucked into your explanation;-

I guess I'll have to stay at a Holiday Inn express again!



Tom C.






On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

That looks like the most bizarre sensor defect imaginable.

On 1/6/2010 4:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com

Subject: K20D - Hot pixel ?



After approx 3850 images, my K20D started producing a defect in the
images, not related to SD card or battery charge. It occurs at all 
ISO's,
all lenses, shutter speeds  apertures. Interestingly it is not 
apparent in

live view.
I've run the pixel mapping routine several time with no affect on this
spot.

It evidences itself as a noticeable bright spot near the RH edge of the
image (in landscape orientation), with a vertical black line from top 
to

bottom running thru the spot.

Its close enough to the RH edge that it can be cropped out with only a
small loss of image size, but I don't want to have to crop every image.

The body will probably find its way to Pentax Repair, but I thought I'd
get some input from the collective minds on the list. Depending on the 
cost

to repair, this may push me into getting a K7.

Your thoughts are welcomed

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

There is no spoon

The cake is a lie


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Re: Trafalger Square, That's in London, right?

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling

Have you checked your social security card lately?

On 1/7/2010 11:36 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/24/2009 10:49:50 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
caka...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not a number, I'm a free  man and so are you all.

Tom

==
Well, actually, no I am  a woman.

Marnie :-)  But the sentiment is  mostly right.

-
We  can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling

I guess this answers my question.

On 1/7/2010 10:10 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, David Savageozsav...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

There is no spoon

 

Explains why my soup drips off the fork.

Dave
   



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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/7/2010 11:36 AM, steve harley wrote:

On 2010-01-07 08:20 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jack,
Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
repair.  Put it back in camera.  The next shot should have the next
number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.


don't you have to force it to roll over first (beyond  to 0001)?


Pretty much.  I know from experience that needs to be done.

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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/7/2010 11:36 AM, steve harley wrote:

On 2010-01-07 08:20 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jack,
Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
repair.  Put it back in camera.  The next shot should have the next
number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.


don't you have to force it to roll over first (beyond  to 0001)?

Actually I don't know if this works with the K20D, but with the *ist-Ds 
I accidentally set the counter back to zero right after a firmware 
upgrade IIRC.  Doesn't seem like a practical solution.


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Re: Whingeing about workflow

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Glenn,
Lightroom can help you cut that time down, but Kodachrome slides were
a lot easier.
The colors on the slides were the colors in projection and there was
no tweaking.
Now I go out and shoot 250 images in a few hours and bring them back
to the laptop,
for hours of editing.  Drives the wife crazy on vacations...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:51 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. dgl...@panix.com wrote:
 At the family Christmas party, my brother's father-in-law (there's
 gotta be a shorter way to say that) asked about my photography and
 whether I did it for money, and I commented that if I were any good
 at the _marketing_, I'd do it for money.  He asked me to round up
 a sampling of my work and he'd see whether he could do anything
 to help with the marketing angle.  So I've been going through a lot
 of my recent-ish backlog, picking out portfolio-worthy shots to edit
 into shape.  (When I go back home, I'll fire up the scanner; here
 at Mom's house, I'm going by what I have on hand on CF cards, CD,
 and cluttering up my laptop's hard drive.)

 The first step, of course, is to decide which photos are worth
 spending any time on.  I'm also trying to get some of these folders
 of photos moved off onto CD to free up space on the laptop.  So I'm
 going through lots of images, deciding which to copy (well, hard-link)
 to the possible portfolio candidates folder to take a closer look
 at later and maybe fire up GIMP on.

 And it strikes me that when I'm going through a collection of photos
 where I tried different angles and lighting on the same subject, or
 where I shot lots of frames of some event, that culling the duds and
 picking out which of the good shots to consider redundant ... was a
 whole lot easier when I was sorting through a stack of 4x6 glossy
 proofs that I could easily shuffle, look at in twos and threes next
 to each other, etc.  I haven't found an approach yet that feels
 anywhere near as smooth or natural on the computer.

 And that's even before we get into the whole business with corrections
 and adjustments the folks at the lab did for me when I was paying
 somebody to develop and print.  (OTOH, an awful lot of film from the
 last couple of years before I got the *istD is still in the freezer
 waiting for me to be able to afford to have somebody develop and print
 it, so even though digital is a lot more work, I'm actually _seeing_
 what I've shot instead of tossing it in the freezer to hopefully see
 someday.)

 At the aforementioned Christmas party, folks saw me shooting with a
 Fancy Camera (i.e. not a PS, and with a big ol' flash unit stuck on
 the shoe), and asked when they'd see the pictures.  So I made an
 effort to winnow that evening's shots and tweak (crop/levels/etc.)
 the good ones in time to hand a CD to my brother two days later when
 I knew he'd be stopping by.  I didn't keep close track, but it was
 something like 16 hours of editing for one party worth (three or
 four hours) of mostly casual shooting[*].

 I'm sure I'll get faster at this as I go on.  But I suspect that
 choosing a subject, composing the shot, working out lighting, and
 operating the camera will all continue to count as The Easy Part.
 (Maybe I need to team up with somebody who doesn't like taking
 photos but loves editing them, and whose aesthetic closely resembles
 mine.)  In the meantime, I guess I ought to crawl through the
 mailing list archives for advice on digital workflow and tools that
 I skipped over before.

 Anyhow, I just felt a need to whine about how long this instant
 technology is taking me.  Now to get back to editing instead of
 whining for a while ...

                                        -- Glenn

 [*] I did go into Serious Photographer mode to try to capture the
 smokestack on the cardboard-box hotel my nepphew made out of the
 box a gigantic flat-screen television had come in -- my brother
 stuck a humidifier inside so the mist would come out the chimney
 and look like smoke.

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RE: -37ºC

2010-01-07 Thread Bob W
Think you're a tough guy, huh?

How about this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8445831.stm

Situated in an area of Siberia nicknamed Stalin's Death Ring (a former
destination for political exiles), Oymyakon boasts an average winter
temperature of -45C, with a one-time world record low of -71.2C.

It is home to several hundred people, and until recently a single hotel with
no hot water and an outside toilet.
...
Nothing grows there, a single shop provides the town's provisions and with
jobs in short supply most locals resort to reindeer-breeding, hunting and
ice-fishing for their livelihoods. Ironically, Oymyakon means non-freezing
water, situated as it is to a nearby hot spring.



 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
 Behalf Of David J Brooks
 Sent: 07 January 2010 14:46
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: -37ºC
 
 I have, somewhere here, a Polaroid shot of the weather net 
 work red screen in January of 1996. It was -46C i believe, no 
 wind chill. By the time i drove from our cabin in Longlac to 
 the office, it had dipped to -52C, no wind. I got out of the 
 truck, pounded a wood stake in the ground, just to say i 
 worked at -52.;-) We were pipe lining for Transcanada at the 
 time and we had to wait until it ~warmed up~ to -35 C before 
 they could weld.
 
 Dave
 
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  That's how cold it is this morning.
  Gads I hate winter.
 
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Re: Whingeing about workflow

2010-01-07 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/7 D. Glenn Arthur Jr. dgl...@panix.com:
[...]
 Anyhow, I just felt a need to whine about how long this instant
 technology is taking me.  Now to get back to editing instead of
 whining for a while ...

                                        -- Glenn

D. Glenn,
Maybe this could be a good starting point?
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Photography-Practices-Workflow-Handbook/dp/0240810953/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1262897515sr=8-1


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Re: Shot Counter

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
OK so I just did it on a K-20.
I went into the memory card and changed the last image from
IMGP4794.DGN to IMGP4799.DGN
I put the card back into the K-20 and the next shot is IMGP4800.DGN
On the Menu under Memory, I have File No. checked.
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:34 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1/7/2010 11:36 AM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2010-01-07 08:20 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Jack,
 Take the memory card you had in the camera before you sent it for
 repair.  Put it back in camera.  The next shot should have the next
 number in the sequence and the camera will be back to normal.

 don't you have to force it to roll over first (beyond  to 0001)?

 Actually I don't know if this works with the K20D, but with the *ist-Ds I
 accidentally set the counter back to zero right after a firmware upgrade
 IIRC.  Doesn't seem like a practical solution.

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PESO - Bok Choy

2010-01-07 Thread Ed Keeney
Been working on decisions for my PDML Book entries, not an easy task
(down to 7, getting outside opinions).  I have to say, the pictures
from last year are outstanding and I can only hope in my wildest
dreams to be half as good as the work presented there.

As for the PESO...a visit to NYC provided some opportunities.  This
was shot from the hip as we walked down Canal.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dNsP3V3BJCQH7Ddugc0BKw?feat=directlink

Comments, critiques welcome!

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Re: Short tele complement to DA16-45?

2010-01-07 Thread Margus Männik

Definitely get a DA70. It's amazing lens.

BR, Margus

gldnbearz wrote:

Let's say you have a DA16-45.  Love the colors, love the 16mm, don't
mind the reverse zoom ring, but it's just a *little* short at 45mm.
Already have the DA 55-300 or 50-135.

Options for when I don't want to use the long tele zooms (usually I'm
indoors  need just a little more reach, but I can't walk up to the
subject):
1) get a DA 17-70 to replace 16-45 (pros: longer zoom range, SDM
quietness, same constant f/4 as the 16-45, has a normal zoom ring,
has a rebate since I bought the K-7; cons: heavier  larger than the
16-45, it's SDM only; long term SDM reliability, some users complain
of softness btwn 50-70mm)

2) get a DA 70 (pros: small size, complements the DA 21  DA40,
slightly better in low light at f/2.4; cons: funky lens cap/hood
combination, price?)

If you have the DA16-45, what is your short tele option? I'm not
looking to replace the 16-45; it works and it's been a great bang for
the buck.  I've been going back  forth on this for a bit and would
like to see what others think.

TIA,
Pat

  



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