Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On 21/01/2010, Ken Waller wrote: > Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf > in the wild ? I do. > If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there > when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you were set > up to capture it would truly be a lifetime event - IMO. I'm with Frank on this one, I have no idea how difficult it is to shoot a wolf but I do know that it's not a great standalone image regardless. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Yeah, I would be inclined to just get a new camera at this point. Either the K-x for the low light or the K7. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:57:03 PM, you wrote: ps> Hi Ken, ps> I might skip the repair and buy a K7. You should be able to get ps> one for less than $1000 now. Keep the K20 as is as a backup camera ps> that works only with a crop. Or fix the K20 and sell it for a bit ps> more than you paid. I think you can still get $450. I got that ps> much for my K10 about six months ago. ps> Paul ps> On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote: >> Ken, bad news indeed. I'd second Ecke's idea - the K-x is rather close in $$ >> and you'd get the best high ISO performance this side of the k-mount >> frontier. >> >> I'm not suggesting the K-x would be THE replacement for the K20, but all the >> same, it's not that bad. Paying $400 for the repair seems a tough option. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Luiz Felipe >> luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br >> http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
Add maize trim & you'd be very welcome in Ann Arbor, Michigan - Go Blue Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:20:48PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: I haven't delved into this much more than a superficial level, but I can tell from experience its due to what some homeowners do in some subdivisions. You wouldn't believe what homeowners would do to their property if left to their own devices. How about a tree house on the front lawn - in a sub division, or outlandish exterior colors, dismantling old cars in the street, storing all sorts of items out in the open for months/years? The last two are illegal here (San Jose, California). As for house colo(u)rs - I got a few comments from my neighbours when I repainted my house in something other than the ubiquitous pastels: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/MyNewCar1.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" Subject: Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost Also, no exterior TV antennas or sat dishes, no unusual exterior colors, fencing only of a specified height and construction, only for small areas around the "patio" area, etc. etc. In our association, I live in the old farmhouse (1837 vintage) whose previous owner plus 2 sold the land that became the development of duplexes and townhouses. We hang our clothes outside to dry from time to time, we drive on the grass, we basically ignore the rules. But most of the neighbors don't know that we are even subject to the rules, so we aren't setting a bad example. I've been on the Association Board of Directors off and on for many years, currently president, and I long ago learned that the rules are for show only. The Association is toothless when it tries to enforce anything. My association has placed liens on homeowners not in compliance. They can't sell their property without taking care of the lien. stan On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 20/01/2010, Christian wrote: In the US it is against most home owner's association bylaws to do so. Kerry was so disappointed to find out we couldn't have a "clothesline out the back" when she moved here 10 years ago. Not even in your own back-yard? Incredible. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02 -0500, "Bill Sawyer" wrote: > BTW, this is playing in Detroit right now - until April 26 or so. > Enlarged > to about 3' x 4', it IS a stunning shot. > It's also playing in Sydney at the Australian Museum (as Christian mentioned). I just got back from the exhibition and the curators had already removed the image. They replaced it with the press release from the Competition organisers. Despite the controversy, it's a wonderful exhibition with plenty of other images that could have won. My two favourites were: "Eyes in the Oasis" http://static.nhmshop.co.uk/images/width340/pd-nhm1092-ca-4549.jpg and "Hunting Harrier" http://static.nhmshop.co.uk/images/width340/pd-nhm0966-ca-4591.jpg You can see low res versions of all of the images here: http://www.nhmshop.co.uk/veolia-environnement-wildlife-photographer-of-the-year-2009/category.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > Bill Sawyer > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:11 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped > > Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm > > -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Known Universe
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:14 PM Subject: Re: OT: The Known Universe They show the Earth rotating the wrong way, which makes me skeptical about the whole project. But they do show it is flat.. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: OT: The Known Universe To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 11:01 AM http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100120.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Thanks Paul. I've already given them the ok to repair. I was on the edge, if it was a few bucks more I probably would have skipped the repair and gotten the k-7. I've kept my K10 as a backup, so the repair will hopefully keep me from buying a new body until the next generation of Pentax DSLR shows up. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ? Hi Ken, I might skip the repair and buy a K7. You should be able to get one for less than $1000 now. Keep the K20 as is as a backup camera that works only with a crop. Or fix the K20 and sell it for a bit more than you paid. I think you can still get $450. I got that much for my K10 about six months ago. Paul On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote: Ken, bad news indeed. I'd second Ecke's idea - the K-x is rather close in $$ and you'd get the best high ISO performance this side of the k-mount frontier. I'm not suggesting the K-x would be THE replacement for the K20, but all the same, it's not that bad. Paying $400 for the repair seems a tough option. Good luck. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped Bob W wrote: Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm Well, it's a stunning photograph even so. What a pity that he appears to have cheated. Bob "Wildlife photographer Mark Carwardine was one of the competition judges. He told BBC News that this was the first time in its 46 year history that there would not be a winner." So why didn't they give the prize to the runner up? I was wondering the same thing. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I agree but it is THEIR contest. Honestly? I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah, I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty amazing, but that isn't enough to make it a good photo. Do you have any idea how much effort & time is required to even see a wolf in the wild ? I do. If that was an honest 'in the wild' shot it would be fantastic. To be there when not only a wolf appeared, but leaped over an obsticle and you were set up to capture it would truly be a lifetime event - IMO. It's not at all dynamic, the wolf is frozen in air, I mean hell, it looks like it could be a stuffed animal! I could see why they think it's staged - whether that's enough to ban it, I don't know. Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not much evidence. I agree - why did it ever make it thru the initialjudging. This doesn't look good on anybody involved. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?
27...@comcast .net,
They got it last Wednesday, the 13th, I waited a few days for them to
review, I called them yesterday, the 20th. They had already estimated a
repair & were waiting for my ok, although they never contacted me - it took
my call to get the info. They estimated a 4 to 6 week wait to repair,
although they said it would probably be sooner. Mine was not a warranty
claim.
HTH
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: <27...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Ken, How long did it take to get an answer from Pentax about your K20D ?
Just like to know how long before I would get an answer on my K7 if I send
it in.. But mine should still be under warranty.. Thanks Joe
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From: "Ken Waller"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:01:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Just got word from Pentax repair, that my K20D needs a new CCD image
sensor.
( : - {
Cost to repair $402.
If it was a little more I'd probably be buying a K-7.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: "Ken Waller"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Ken Waller"
Subject: K20D - Hot pixel ?
After approx 3850 images, my K20D started producing a defect in the
images, not related to SD card or battery charge. It occurs at all
ISO's,
all lenses, shutter speeds & apertures. Interestingly it is not apparent
in live view.
I've run the pixel mapping routine several time with no affect on this
spot.
It evidences itself as a noticeable bright spot near the RH edge of the
image (in landscape orientation), with a vertical black line from top to
bottom running thru the spot.
Its close enough to the RH edge that it can be cropped out with only a
small loss of image size, but I don't want to have to crop every image.
The body will probably find its way to Pentax Repair, but I thought I'd
get some input from the collective minds on the list. Depending on the
cost to repair, this may push me into getting a K7.
Your thoughts are welcomed
Kenneth Waller
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Re: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
I kinda felt I had to repair it as in good conscious, I couldn't sell it as is without taking a hit in the sale price. And I would want a k7 over the k-x. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Luiz Felipe" Subject: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ? Ken, bad news indeed. I'd second Ecke's idea - the K-x is rather close in $$ and you'd get the best high ISO performance this side of the k-mount frontier. I'm not suggesting the K-x would be THE replacement for the K20, but all the same, it's not that bad. Paying $400 for the repair seems a tough option. Good luck. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
Also, no exterior TV antennas or sat dishes, no unusual exterior colors, fencing only of a specified height and construction, only for small areas around the "patio" area, etc. etc. In our association, I live in the old farmhouse (1837 vintage) whose previous owner plus 2 sold the land that became the development of duplexes and townhouses. We hang our clothes outside to dry from time to time, we drive on the grass, we basically ignore the rules. But most of the neighbors don't know that we are even subject to the rules, so we aren't setting a bad example. I've been on the Association Board of Directors off and on for many years, currently president, and I long ago learned that the rules are for show only. The Association is toothless when it tries to enforce anything. stan On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 20/01/2010, Christian wrote: > >> In the US it is against most home owner's association bylaws to do so. Kerry >> was so disappointed to find out we couldn't have a "clothesline out the >> back" when she moved here 10 years ago. > > Not even in your own back-yard? Incredible. > > -- > Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) > Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours > Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost A homeowner's association took a family to court for flying a Canadian flag and the court struck down the covenant and allowed him to be patriotic. It's amazing that the Supreme Court didn't step in and overturn the lower court. Patriotism is strictly forbidden. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Christian wrote: > Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, > Brian and Anthony. > > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html Excellent! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > They are semi-enforceable. If you signed the covenant when you bought the > house and agreed to abide by homeowner's association rules, they can enforce > it as a contract. Break the rules = breach of contract. > > They can get a court order forcing you to conform to the rules. > > In some places, the homeowner's association rules gain force of law by being > enacted as zoning ordinances. That's what they're trying to do around here > because my neighborhood doesn't have a homeowner's association. > > They tried to form one, but I told them I wasn't interested; that if they > did form one around me, I refused to be bound by their rules; and suggested > that if they continued to bother me with that crap I would ... Uh, > demonstrate the depth of my objection in a tangible manner. They're called restrictive covenants and they're registered on title by the developer at the time the lots are subdivided. They run with the land, so by purchasing the land and registering the deed you are agreeing to be bound by it. You do not have to sign a contract with anyone, it's just "there" with the land. The homeowners association enforces them, but really, they have nothing to do with instituting them. They can only be enforced by suing for breach of contract in court. I recall hearing that the restrictive covenants against clothes lines came about because they were seen as an eyesore in a "modern suburb", the thought being that clothes lines were seen as a lower class thing, in inner city slums and such. A court will strike down a restrictive covenant in some cases. I seem to recall one that restricted homeowners from putting a flagpoles on their property. A homeowner's association took a family to court for flying a Canadian flag and the court struck down the covenant and allowed him to be patriotic. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO K-x at 12800ISO
I'm kinda' impressed by that too. 2010/1/21 Rob Studdert : > Since there is a lot of showing of high ISO pics currently, I'll add > one of mine from the other night shot on the k-x. Just an experiment > really, trying to capture the wall projection, 2MP jpeg straight out > of the camera (file rename only). Everything auto, hand held, stuff > all light, I'm impressed. > > http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/IMGX00497.JPG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost The last two are illegal here (San Jose, California). As for house colo(u)rs - I got a few comments from my neighbours when I repainted my house in something other than the ubiquitous pastels: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/MyNewCar1.jpg I'd complain too. That blue is hideous beside the red Mini. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
Here in Brisbane it's totally banned in some designated areas, such as our South Bank, which is advertised as a family-friendly location. No distinction is made between responsible people drinking the odd glass of something, and the yahoos who seem not to know either when to stop or how to behave. There are also comprehensive bans on alcohol in some Aboriginal areas: one unfortunate was fined a considerable sum of money, and, because she is a politician, received significant adverse publicity because there was a bottle of wine on the plane on which she arrived in one such area - not even open, mind you! My opinion is that offensive behaviour, whether caused by drunkenness or not, is already adequately covered by our legal framework, and that it is wowserish overkill to impose these sorts of regulations (which are often made by local councils and other 'authorities', rather than properly constituted parliaments) on the law-abiding and well-behaved majority. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Lasse Karlsson Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 8:05 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol Hi all, Since list members don't seem mind very much the OT subject of alcohol, I've got one for you. A hot local political issue has been new regulations regarding drinking alcohol in outdoors public places in town (or "densely populated areas"). It has now been prohibited. Would be interested in (briefly) what regulations there are in your countries and communities. Is drinking alcohol outdoors in public places allowed, or not? Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:20:48PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: > > I haven't delved into this much more than a superficial level, but I can > tell from experience its due to what some homeowners do in some > subdivisions. You wouldn't believe what homeowners would do to their > property if left to their own devices. How about a tree house on the > front lawn - in a sub division, or outlandish exterior colors, > dismantling old cars in the street, storing all sorts of items out in the > open for months/years? The last two are illegal here (San Jose, California). As for house colo(u)rs - I got a few comments from my neighbours when I repainted my house in something other than the ubiquitous pastels: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/MyNewCar1.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAS (Yet Another Shot)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Another pic from the same game from my daughter. I liked the > concentration in her eyes in this one. > > > Pentax K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm, Monopod > ISO 1600, 1/180 sec @ f/2.8 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/swgame02_0067-1.htm She's right into it, isn't she? Terrific shot, Bruce! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - After the Rain
I really don't know why I like this one - it's just an alleyway. I'm not even sure where it is (don't remember taking the photo). I do like it though, and I hope you do, too: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/after-rain.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAS (Yet Another Shot)
You caught a great moment. She's not just fooling around out there:-). Paul On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Another pic from the same game from my daughter. I liked the > concentration in her eyes in this one. > > > Pentax K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm, Monopod > ISO 1600, 1/180 sec @ f/2.8 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/swgame02_0067-1.htm > > -- > Bruce > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double Geso - Death Valley and Sequoia National Forest
On 21/01/2010, Sasha Sobol wrote: > Thanks to everyone. > I have added few more photos and one panorama: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4289544499/in/set-72157623246458774/ > probably worth exploring in original size- large is too small :P Very cool, you can really look around in the big panos, the copper deposits are amazing, that's some geology -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - YAS (Yet Another Shot)
Another pic from the same game from my daughter. I liked the concentration in her eyes in this one. Pentax K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm, Monopod ISO 1600, 1/180 sec @ f/2.8 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/swgame02_0067-1.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, William Robb wrote: > It's Bill, actually, and no, I'm not implying a grudge. > Saskatoon, just a couple of hours from me has Temperance St. > My point was that this sort of thing doesn't work. > Tried and failed was the point, not where it happened. > Take this for what it's worth, coming from someone who has never raised a > child, but to me, it would seem that it would be better to have your kid > falling down drunk with his friends in the TV room than at a bush party that > he is going to drive home from. > By instilling a prohibition, we force what they are going to do anyway into > the worst possible way of doing it. Prohibition worked about as well as criminalizing narcotics (especially marijuana). The stuff is readily available, relatively cheap and its use is ubiquitous in some groups. Funny, but since pot's been decriminalized here (simple use - as opposed to trafficking - is basically as serious as a parking ticket) use hasn't skyrocketed. A couple of summers ago, due to a court decision, pot was basically legal for a couple of months until Parliament resumed in the autumn and passed a law to plug the loophole. People were smoking the stuff even more openly that year, but actual usage didn't go up. All prohibition does is fill jails and clog courts who could be spending their time dealing with real criminals. cheers, frank (no, I don't smoke pot) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Wildlife photographer Stripped
BTW, this is playing in Detroit right now - until April 26 or so. Enlarged to about 3' x 4', it IS a stunning shot. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robb wrote: > Obviously Bob thinks he is. The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder - that we know of... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO K-x at 12800ISO
Since there is a lot of showing of high ISO pics currently, I'll add one of mine from the other night shot on the k-x. Just an experiment really, trying to capture the wall projection, 2MP jpeg straight out of the camera (file rename only). Everything auto, hand held, stuff all light, I'm impressed. http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/IMGX00497.JPG Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO; K7D at 6400
The pic below was posted with no noise reduction. It's converted from RAW. For comparison, here's the same pic with some PhotoShop noise reduction: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10541951&size=lg On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:40 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > Shots some pics at a pool tournament tonight. Nothing special, but I was > pleased with the ISO 6400 performance of the K7D. Very little light. I > rendered it on my laptop, so color and brightness might not be exactly right, > but I think they're close. > K7D, DA* 16-50/2.8, f2.8 at 1/50th, 50mm > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10541913&size=lg > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO; K7D at 6400
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:40 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > Shots some pics at a pool tournament tonight. Nothing special, but I was > pleased with the ISO 6400 performance of the K7D. Very little light. I > rendered it on my laptop, so color and brightness might not be exactly right, > but I think they're close. > K7D, DA* 16-50/2.8, f2.8 at 1/50th, 50mm > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10541913&size=lg I think it's a wonderful shot - the look of concentration and focus on his face is perfect, and you caught him just as he's about to strike. I like it a lot. The performance at 6400 is very good - some of the underexposed background is noisy, but the foreground is nice and clean. Thanks for posting. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO; K7D at 6400
Paul,Not bad at 6400, but I guess you had light right over the table..Joe - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:40:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: PESO; K7D at 6400 Shots some pics at a pool tournament tonight. Nothing special, but I was pleased with the ISO 6400 performance of the K7D. Very little light. I rendered it on my laptop, so color and brightness might not be exactly right, but I think they're close. K7D, DA* 16-50/2.8, f2.8 at 1/50th, 50mm http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10541913&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO; K7D at 6400
Shots some pics at a pool tournament tonight. Nothing special, but I was pleased with the ISO 6400 performance of the K7D. Very little light. I rendered it on my laptop, so color and brightness might not be exactly right, but I think they're close. K7D, DA* 16-50/2.8, f2.8 at 1/50th, 50mm http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10541913&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Graydon wrote: > > Used to have the writer machines running XP64; not only did they get > about 15% speed improvement out of Eclipse, the range of awful crap they > could install was greatly reduced because there's really not very much > 64 bit Windows software out there. > > Hopefully someone can tell you if Photoshop is one of those bits of > software. Otherwise it won't get you anything; even if the OS can do > it with respect to more RAM, the app can't use it. > > -- Graydon > This is ioncorrect on two counts. Firstly there is a LOT of 64-bit windows software out there, things have changed significantly since XP64 was current, the move to 4GB as the base RAM spec on serious machines moved the default OS on mid/high-end machines to Vista 64 a while ago and a lot of apps have moved to 64-bit native (heck, I'm running 64-bit iTunes on my Vista64 machine). Plus most 32-bit software installs and runs just fine under Vista64 or Win7-64, XP64 was awful for app compatibility. Secondly any memory hungry 32-bt app will see performance gains under 64bit OS's with sufficient RAM as the app can then use 100% of the RAM available to it rather than being limited by having to share address space with the OS and any other running applications. This occurs on 4GB and higher configurations and can boost PS performance noticably even if running 32 bit PS. -Adam -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Known Universe
They show the Earth rotating the wrong way, which makes me skeptical about the whole project. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > From: Daniel J. Matyola > Subject: OT: The Known Universe > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 11:01 AM > http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100120.html > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
From: frank theriault On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I agree but it is THEIR contest. Honestly? I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah, I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty amazing, but that isn't enough to make it a good photo. It's not at all dynamic, the wolf is frozen in air, I mean hell, it looks like it could be a stuffed animal! I could see why they think it's staged - whether that's enough to ban it, I don't know. Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not much evidence. This doesn't look good on anybody involved. You know, the problem I have with it isn't that they decided it was staged; it's that they didn't decide that until AFTER they had already awarded it the first prize. Every reason cited for rejecting it after the fact should have been apparent before it won. Ok, so he (maybe) didn't follow the contest rules; it sure looks like that from the image ... but how stupid do the judges have to be to not notice that BEFORE choosing the guy as Wildlife Photographer of the Year? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
On 21/01/2010, paul stenquist wrote: > Hi Ken, > I might skip the repair and buy a K7. You should be able to get one for less > than $1000 now. Keep the K20 as is as a backup camera that works only with a > crop. Or fix the K20 and sell it for a bit more than you paid. I think you > can still get $450. I got that much for my K10 about six months ago. Or put it on eBay indicating the problem and quoting the repair value, that would be a bit less hassle. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Hi Ken, I might skip the repair and buy a K7. You should be able to get one for less than $1000 now. Keep the K20 as is as a backup camera that works only with a crop. Or fix the K20 and sell it for a bit more than you paid. I think you can still get $450. I got that much for my K10 about six months ago. Paul On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote: > Ken, bad news indeed. I'd second Ecke's idea - the K-x is rather close in $$ > and you'd get the best high ISO performance this side of the k-mount frontier. > > I'm not suggesting the K-x would be THE replacement for the K20, but all the > same, it's not that bad. Paying $400 for the repair seems a tough option. > > Good luck. > > Luiz Felipe > luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br > http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:12:34PM -0500, John Sessoms scripsit: > Has anyone had experience with 64 bit versions of Windows? Especially > running PhotoshopCS3? Used to have the writer machines running XP64; not only did they get about 15% speed improvement out of Eclipse, the range of awful crap they could install was greatly reduced because there's really not very much 64 bit Windows software out there. Hopefully someone can tell you if Photoshop is one of those bits of software. Otherwise it won't get you anything; even if the OS can do it with respect to more RAM, the app can't use it. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop
From: Paul Sorenson I *do* make it a point to check the vendors website to see if they have any notes on running their software on Win7/64 bit. It seems a really critical thing is the drivers - printer drivers, etc - you need to make sure there is a 64 bit driver available to support your printer, 'cause a 32 bit driver won't work. Somebody else mentioned the Compatibility Tool. I've run that, and it says I'm mostly good to go. I do need to get some updated drivers, and I'll make sure I have all of them before proceeding. Toshiba recommends creating a Recovery DVD, but when I search for the Recovery Disk Creator application they tell me to use, it's not there. Fortunately, a "Recovery DVD Package" came in the box with the computer. Not a real confidence builder though if they don't even know what disk I'm supposed to have. The other thing is it looks like there's service packs for Vista I need to install, although I don't know WHY, since I'm just going to end up blowing it all away with a clean, custom install. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
Sorry Bill, I was trying to respond to both you and Bob W at once. I've seen the teen beer parties with your parent's permission. Legal liabilities will dazzle your mind, and keeping the drunken teens at home and not driving is a further complication. I don't have a solution for all of this, just happy to have survived it. Most surprising, restaurants, bars, and liquor stores in my town fail 10% of their controlled buys by selling to an obviously underaged teen with an underaged ID. Despite training and desires, the shops are ineffictive at following the rules. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:02 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol > > > Hey Bob, what's the gratuitous shot at us for Prohibition in the '20's?!! > Wow, that's a long time to hold a grudge! > > And yes, we've all done underage drinking and underage drunk. > But until you've raised three teenagers, don't presume you know how. > No matter what you do and what they know, it's a treacherous time. > Each child matures at a different pace. > > And bringing traffic accidents into this discussion is perfectly logical. > 90% of the kids in the USA have access to a car. > For most of them, it's their first experience at freedom. > When that's mixed with alcohol, the results are tragic. > (It's not their skills Bill, it's their recklessness via booze.) > It's a leading cause of death for teens. > > > It's Bill, actually, and no, I'm not implying a grudge. > Saskatoon, just a couple of hours from me has Temperance St. > My point was that this sort of thing doesn't work. > Tried and failed was the point, not where it happened. > Take this for what it's worth, coming from someone who has never raised a > child, but to me, it would seem that it would be better to have your kid > falling down drunk with his friends in the TV room than at a bush party that > he is going to drive home from. > By instilling a prohibition, we force what they are going to do anyway into > the worst possible way of doing it. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
William Robb wrote: Obviously Bob thinks he is. - Original Message - From: "brian"Subject: Bob Shell innocent? Some interesting reading http://www.bobshelltruth.com/index.php -- Brian "The EOS 1OD can be set to record images in RAW format or in JPEG format. All of my personal shooting was done in JPEG format." GUILTY! :-) -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Cotty wrote: On 20/1/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, Brian and Anthony. http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html Enjoy Great set of pics, you bastard. Thanks, Cot. That's high praise indeed. Thanks too to Paul, Brian, Ken, Dave and Dave, etc. I had a great three weeks in Oz. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:50:34PM -0600, Bob Sullivan scripsit: > Hey Bob, what's the gratuitous shot at us for Prohibition in the '20's?!! > Wow, that's a long time to hold a grudge! > > And yes, we've all done underage drinking and underage drunk. (Nope. Both instances of drunk happened well after I wasn't underage.) The core problem is that primates (well, probably your basic bilaterally symmetric segmented metazoan...) like to get high. Everything after that is a question of social norms. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Rob Studdert wrote: On 21/01/2010, Christian wrote: Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, Brian and Anthony. http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html Cool, do you think the home owners assoc would ban my daggy hat for making the place look untidy? ;-) Without a doubt! -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Thanks, Bob! I was trying for something different. I have several "classic" shots of the bridge and opera house and was kinda trying something new. Actually shot with a 55/1.8 Super Multi-Coated Takumar on the 20D so kinda Pentax-related too. As a matter of fact many of the shots in this set were shot with the 55/1.8 Tak. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ Bob Sullivan wrote: Christian, I especially liked the shot of the Opera House and the bridge. The way you've shot it, you made the shapes compliment one another. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christian wrote: Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, Brian and Anthony. http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html Enjoy -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [freedoms_cry_litigators] Bloglines - Lawyers, guns and money
On Jan 20, 2010, at 16:55 , 27...@comcast.net wrote: Bloglines user quackn (dqu...@thegrid.net) has sent this item to you. Rational Review The premiere libertarian web journal of news and commentary on politics and culture Lawyers, guns and money By Thomas L. Knapp “H. L. Mencken used to say that governments provoked moral panics and kept people in fear of ‘imaginary hobgoblins’ so they wouldn’t notice the hand picking their pockets. The main purpose of the Drug War is to keep us in a state of fear as a way of empowering the state and its corporate partners in crime. The Drug War is one of the best expedients ever hit on for that purpose: it has resulted in unprecedented militarization of local police forces, turned the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments into toilet paper, and generally done more to promote authoritarianism in American society than anything but the two world wars and the so-called ‘War on Terror.’” (01/19/10) Huh? What? Who's there, man?Quick, flush the stash. Throw the bong in the dishwasher. Light some matches! Swallow it man! Jeeez, it's only your sister, man! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Bob W wrote: Stripped of the award he won, that is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm Well, it's a stunning photograph even so. What a pity that he appears to have cheated. Bob "Wildlife photographer Mark Carwardine was one of the competition judges. He told BBC News that this was the first time in its 46 year history that there would not be a winner." So why didn't they give the prize to the runner up? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol Hey Bob, what's the gratuitous shot at us for Prohibition in the '20's?!! Wow, that's a long time to hold a grudge! And yes, we've all done underage drinking and underage drunk. But until you've raised three teenagers, don't presume you know how. No matter what you do and what they know, it's a treacherous time. Each child matures at a different pace. And bringing traffic accidents into this discussion is perfectly logical. 90% of the kids in the USA have access to a car. For most of them, it's their first experience at freedom. When that's mixed with alcohol, the results are tragic. (It's not their skills Bill, it's their recklessness via booze.) It's a leading cause of death for teens. It's Bill, actually, and no, I'm not implying a grudge. Saskatoon, just a couple of hours from me has Temperance St. My point was that this sort of thing doesn't work. Tried and failed was the point, not where it happened. Take this for what it's worth, coming from someone who has never raised a child, but to me, it would seem that it would be better to have your kid falling down drunk with his friends in the TV room than at a bush party that he is going to drive home from. By instilling a prohibition, we force what they are going to do anyway into the worst possible way of doing it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
Hey Bob, what's the gratuitous shot at us for Prohibition in the '20's?!! Wow, that's a long time to hold a grudge! And yes, we've all done underage drinking and underage drunk. But until you've raised three teenagers, don't presume you know how. No matter what you do and what they know, it's a treacherous time. Each child matures at a different pace. And bringing traffic accidents into this discussion is perfectly logical. 90% of the kids in the USA have access to a car. For most of them, it's their first experience at freedom. When that's mixed with alcohol, the results are tragic. (It's not their skills Bill, it's their recklessness via booze.) It's a leading cause of death for teens. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:24 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol > > > I sat on the local liquor commission for a number of years. > They heard new liquor license petitions and controlled buy violations > and made recommends. > (Yes, they used under aged teens to test the existing establishments > for compliance. > An underage teen would present an under aged drivers license for > checking/refusal.) > > We heard one incident that really bothered me and shows the problems. > Detectives were in an unmarked car at a local convenience center. > They noticed a van of kids approach another older teen entering a liquor > store. > They got the older kid (with a fake ID) to buy them a case of beer. > The kids, 16 to 13 years old, were going to drink the beer while driving > around. > > So imagine some night you're gonna meet a 16 year old in a 3,000 pound van > who has just downed a 6 pack of beer for fun. All his inhibitions are > released, > and he's like to see how fast this van can go... > Or maybe your wife & kids will meet him on their way home. > > You want to get shit faced, falling down drunk at home, I'd say go for it. > But most parents won't tolerate that behavior a home, > so the teens go out driving in the car. > > > - > > Yes well, you guys proved that prohibition doesn't work back in the 1920s, > and yet to this day, we are all still practicing prohibitionists. > If you really want a teenager to try something, make it illegal and tell him > not to do it. > We were all teenagers once, we all know how true this is, and yet we refuse > to learn from our own life experiences. > It's just stupid that we treat teeneagers like infants until they rach an > arbitrary age of majority and then suddenly expect them to be responsible > adults. > We've given them the opportunity to do it, but we've taught them nothing of > the effects of doing it? > So they go off on their own and learn about it with a bunch of other > teenagers who are equally ignorant. > So who's fault is it really when that 16 year old piles his mom's minivan > into your wife and kids? > All we've done is teach him rudimentary driving skills. > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol My grandfather used to work on the "banana boats" that plied the waters between Halifax, Canada and the Caribbean. They had a huge problem with bilge drinking (disgusting as it might sound to us). creme de bananes My favourite. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped This doesn't look good on anybody involved. It's not even a very good Malinois. (Sorry Wendy, It's an old joke) William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:10 PM, eckinator wrote: > yikes... total fil.. i'll go backe to bilge drinking My grandfather used to work on the "banana boats" that plied the waters between Halifax, Canada and the Caribbean. They had a huge problem with bilge drinking (disgusting as it might sound to us). cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I agree but it is THEIR contest. Honestly? I don't think it's that great a photo even if it's not staged. Yeah, I guess catching a wild wolf doing that at night would be pretty amazing, but that isn't enough to make it a good photo. It's not at all dynamic, the wolf is frozen in air, I mean hell, it looks like it could be a stuffed animal! I could see why they think it's staged - whether that's enough to ban it, I don't know. Sounds like these guys are a bunch of wankers to me. First the pick a lousy pic for their winner, then they ban it on not much evidence. This doesn't look good on anybody involved. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Obviously Bob thinks he is. - Original Message - From: "brian"Subject: Bob Shell innocent? Some interesting reading http://www.bobshelltruth.com/index.php -- Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol William Robb wrote: From: "Mark Roberts" No, no. The problem is the easy availability of cheap, domestic binge, as opposed to the fine, imported variety preferred by connoisseurs of binge such as myself. I kind of prefer the cheap imported binges myself. Perhaps you're confused? I was referring to "binges", not "bints". Watch it Bub, tha's my wife you are talking about. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bond Falls
Ken, That is very very very nice..Joe - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:57:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: PESO - Bond Falls Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Tom C" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Bond Falls > I'd like to add that this may be my all time favorite that I've seen > of your work here... I've liked quite a bit, but this is a > standout... That really means alot to me, coming from you Tom, your photographic works, from what I've seen, speak for themself. Thanks to all that looked and took the time to comment. > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Tom C wrote: >> Wonderful image Ken! Beautiful & nicely balanced. >> >> Tom >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >>> A world class misty,frosty morning at Bond Falls, taken late October, in >>> the >>> western part of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. >>> >>> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html >>> >>> K20D, 16-50mm SMC DA* f2.8 - .6 sec/f22/200 ISO >>> Gitzo 3530LS with Bogen mini-gear head. >>> >>> Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop
From: John Francis We've just bought a new machine, with W7 Professional. You should check the Windows 7 compatibility center to see if your hardware is supported in 64-bit mode before doing anything else. Then check for drivers for peripherals you intend to use. Thanks for the tip. It's been so long since I'd installed a current version of windows, I'd forgotten about the compatibility center thingy. Of course mostly I didn't worry too much about it because most everything I used wasn't ever listed anyway. XP worked just fine on all of my old home-built computers, and none of them were on the list. Only ever had compatibility issues with one CD-ROM drive and it WAS on their list. Go figure. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fwd: [freedoms_cry_litigators] Bloglines - Lawyers, guns and money
This is what is happening in United States - Forwarded Message - From: dqu...@thegrid.net To: "freedoms cry litigators" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:02:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [freedoms_cry_litigators] Bloglines - Lawyers, guns and money Bloglines user quackn (dqu...@thegrid.net) has sent this item to you. Rational Review The premiere libertarian web journal of news and commentary on politics and culture Lawyers, guns and money By Thomas L. Knapp “H. L. Mencken used to say that governments provoked moral panics and kept people in fear of ‘imaginary hobgoblins’ so they wouldn’t notice the hand picking their pockets. The main purpose of the Drug War is to keep us in a state of fear as a way of empowering the state and its corporate partners in crime. The Drug War is one of the best expedients ever hit on for that purpose: it has resulted in unprecedented militarization of local police forces, turned the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments into toilet paper, and generally done more to promote authoritarianism in American society than anything but the two world wars and the so-called ‘War on Terror.’” (01/19/10) __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic ( 1 ) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only , Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-7 at KEH
I was just over there a little while ago looking for something else and decided for once to click on Pentax Digital Camera Outfits ... Lo & Behold, they've got a K7 kit w/18-55 LN- $999 Thought I'd pass it along in case anyone on the list might be interested. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K 7, maybe shorting out Sd cards
Well, the lens will not work on the other bodies that I have. I mean the auto focus part. All my other lens work well on the K7 as do they on the K10d and K20d. So I do not think that it is contacts. Also I up dated the firmware in the K7 to ver. 1.02. But this was after the fact.. Joe - Original Message - From: "William Robb" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:47:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: K 7, maybe shorting out Sd cards - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: K 7, maybe shorting out Sd cards >I just had a DA 18-250 stop autofocusing on the K-7. Other lenses > continue to work at this point. It goes stop to stop but never > achieves focus... about a year old. I can't necessarially say it's the > fault of the camera though. > Clean the lens and body contacts just for giggles. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
William Robb wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" >> >> No, no. The problem is the easy availability of cheap, domestic binge, >> as opposed to the fine, imported variety preferred by connoisseurs of >> binge such as myself. > >I kind of prefer the cheap imported binges myself. Perhaps you're confused? I was referring to "binges", not "bints". ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Ken, How long did it take to get an answer from Pentax about your K20D ? Just
like to know how long before I would get an answer on my K7 if I send it in..
But mine should still be under warranty.. Thanks Joe
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From: "Ken Waller"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:01:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Just got word from Pentax repair, that my K20D needs a new CCD image sensor.
( : - {
Cost to repair $402.
If it was a little more I'd probably be buying a K-7.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: "Ken Waller"
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?
> Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf
>
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken Waller"
>
> Subject: K20D - Hot pixel ?
>
>
>> After approx 3850 images, my K20D started producing a defect in the
>> images, not related to SD card or battery charge. It occurs at all ISO's,
>> all lenses, shutter speeds & apertures. Interestingly it is not apparent
>> in live view.
>> I've run the pixel mapping routine several time with no affect on this
>> spot.
>>
>> It evidences itself as a noticeable bright spot near the RH edge of the
>> image (in landscape orientation), with a vertical black line from top to
>> bottom running thru the spot.
>>
>> Its close enough to the RH edge that it can be cropped out with only a
>> small loss of image size, but I don't want to have to crop every image.
>>
>> The body will probably find its way to Pentax Repair, but I thought I'd
>> get some input from the collective minds on the list. Depending on the
>> cost to repair, this may push me into getting a K7.
>>
>> Your thoughts are welcomed
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
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Subject: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Ken, bad news indeed. I'd second Ecke's idea - the K-x is rather close in $$ and you'd get the best high ISO performance this side of the k-mount frontier. I'm not suggesting the K-x would be THE replacement for the K20, but all the same, it's not that bad. Paying $400 for the repair seems a tough option. Good luck. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol No, no. The problem is the easy availability of cheap, domestic binge, as opposed to the fine, imported variety preferred by connoisseurs of binge such as myself. I kind of prefer the cheap imported binges myself. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
Bob W wrote: >The binge-drinking problem could be solved once and for all by cutting off >the supply of binge at source, and giving the binge farmers another cash >crop to grow, such as heroin. No, no. The problem is the easy availability of cheap, domestic binge, as opposed to the fine, imported variety preferred by connoisseurs of binge such as myself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: (not so) Cold Canal
like the set, some are really nice and i can't wait to get a boat and call it moose drool now... lol cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: (not so) Cold Canal
2010/1/20 Bob W : > > How are you going to persuade any man to get a shorter rod? slap on little nokia stickers wihle they're asleep... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
yikes... total fil.. i'll go backe to bilge drinking 2010/1/21 Bob W : >> >> >> > The binge-drinking problem could be solved once and for all >> by cutting >> > off the supply of binge at source, and giving the binge farmers >> > another cash crop to grow, such as heroin. >> >> mark... >> > > This seems a propos: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8470566.stm > > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
> >> > > The binge-drinking problem could be solved once and for all > by cutting > > off the supply of binge at source, and giving the binge farmers > > another cash crop to grow, such as heroin. > > mark... > This seems a propos: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8470566.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
2010/1/21 Rob Studdert : > On 21/01/2010, Christian wrote: >> Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, >> Brian and Anthony. >> >> http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html > > Cool, do you think the home owners assoc would ban my daggy hat for > making the place look untidy? ;-) At least its not terry cloth... :-) Neat series Christian. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K 7, maybe shorting out Sd cards
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: K 7, maybe shorting out Sd cards I just had a DA 18-250 stop autofocusing on the K-7. Other lenses continue to work at this point. It goes stop to stop but never achieves focus... about a year old. I can't necessarially say it's the fault of the camera though. Clean the lens and body contacts just for giggles. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Trafalgar Square 23 Jan
> > William Robb mentioned that there will be a gathering to show > > solidarity against the authorities' hounding of > > photographers. It starts at 12Noon: > > http://photographernotaterrorist.org/ > > > > I think I'll go along and I know Bob W was interested; maybe > > Cotty too. > > > > Anyone else? Cotty? Bob? (I know you wouldn't be able to get > > there until > > later) > > > > I'll be there. Where would you like to meet? I'll be coming from Baker > Street and can meet you at about 2pm. How about meeting in the café in > Stanfords? > > Bob > That's good, see you there and then. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
2010/1/20 Bob W : >> > The binge-drinking problem could be solved once and for all by cutting off > the supply of binge at source, and giving the binge farmers another cash > crop to grow, such as heroin. mark... Thanks Bob Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol I sat on the local liquor commission for a number of years. They heard new liquor license petitions and controlled buy violations and made recommends. (Yes, they used under aged teens to test the existing establishments for compliance. An underage teen would present an under aged drivers license for checking/refusal.) We heard one incident that really bothered me and shows the problems. Detectives were in an unmarked car at a local convenience center. They noticed a van of kids approach another older teen entering a liquor store. They got the older kid (with a fake ID) to buy them a case of beer. The kids, 16 to 13 years old, were going to drink the beer while driving around. So imagine some night you're gonna meet a 16 year old in a 3,000 pound van who has just downed a 6 pack of beer for fun. All his inhibitions are released, and he's like to see how fast this van can go... Or maybe your wife & kids will meet him on their way home. You want to get shit faced, falling down drunk at home, I'd say go for it. But most parents won't tolerate that behavior a home, so the teens go out driving in the car. - Yes well, you guys proved that prohibition doesn't work back in the 1920s, and yet to this day, we are all still practicing prohibitionists. If you really want a teenager to try something, make it illegal and tell him not to do it. We were all teenagers once, we all know how true this is, and yet we refuse to learn from our own life experiences. It's just stupid that we treat teeneagers like infants until they rach an arbitrary age of majority and then suddenly expect them to be responsible adults. We've given them the opportunity to do it, but we've taught them nothing of the effects of doing it? So they go off on their own and learn about it with a bunch of other teenagers who are equally ignorant. So who's fault is it really when that 16 year old piles his mom's minivan into your wife and kids? All we've done is teach him rudimentary driving skills. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K 7, maybe shorting out Sd cards
I just had a DA 18-250 stop autofocusing on the K-7. Other lenses continue to work at this point. It goes stop to stop but never achieves focus... about a year old. I can't necessarially say it's the fault of the camera though. Tom (p.o.'d) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:22 PM, <27...@comcast.net> wrote: > I have had two 16 gig SDHC Sd cards of different makes go bad in the K 7. > None have gone bad my K20 or K10. Also the Simga 70 to 200 F2.8 HSM lens, > will no longer auto focus, (not that I really use auto focus) using the K 7. > The lens will still transmit the f-stop to the camera. This lens is about > five months old, I like the lens, but I begin to wander if the K 7 > electronics is going haywire..I do also like the K 7, and like to shoot with > it on all manual settings. Any thoughts anyone ? Thanks Joe > > www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double Geso - Death Valley and Sequoia National Forest
Love the shadows in the death valley shots Dave On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: > I have just returned from a long weekend. > Still too many photos to process, but I'd like to share the first batch: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157623246202820/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157623122326575/ > > and one panorama: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4289115329/in/set-72157623246458774/ > > I got extremely lucky with weather - it was raining in Death Valley > and the colors were fantastic. > And it was snowing in Sequoia National Forest. > > I did a poor job photographing what I saw, but still. > > Comments and critique are very welcome. > > --Sasha > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Known Universe
Hey, I can see my house Dave On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100120.html > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
> > > So imagine some night you're gonna meet a 16 year old in a > 3,000 pound > > van who has just downed a 6 pack of beer for fun. All his > inhibitions > > are released, and he's like to see how fast this van can go... > > Or maybe your wife & kids will meet him on their way home. > > It's sobering, so to speak: > > http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/20/2796615.htm > The driver in that story was not underage, at least not in the UK, where the drinking age is 18. What that story demonstrates is that you don't have to be under age to get shit-faced and kill someone with your car. You don't have to be either shit-faced or young, in fact. Two of my nephews, brothers aged about 17 and 18 at the time, have been involved in separate motor accidents. One was knocked off his motor scooter at high speed by a teenage driver, who was sober at the time but changing his CD; the other was knocked off his motor scooter while on his way to work by a sober middle-aged doctor who was in too much of a hurry and wasn't paying attention. Fortuntately neither of my nephews was seriously hurt, although one of them is still feeling the physical effects some 2-3 years later, but they could both easily have been killed. This shows that throwing road traffic accidents into a discussion about outdoor under-age drinking doesn't really contribute much. Young drunks probably do get involved in a lot of traffic accidents. The number of these would be reduced if we as a society took more responsibility for introducing young people to booze and adulthood. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Very nice. Thats to much hair for Cotty. Dave On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Christian wrote: > Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, > Brian and Anthony. > > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html > > Enjoy > -- > > Christian > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
2010/1/20 Ken Waller :
> Just got word from Pentax repair, that my K20D needs a new CCD image sensor.
> ( : - {
> Cost to repair $402.
>
> If it was a little more I'd probably be buying a K-7.
Sorry to hear that, Ken
Maybe worth a thought: how many $$ between that and a K-x body?
Or do you need weather sealing at all times?
Cheers
Ecke
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Re: lightroom 3 beta free download
On 21/01/2010, CarlG wrote: > Probably was less of a direct mail campaign than one of your friends asking > them to send you that mail: "...a page where I have to enter email addresses > for three people I want to share the news with." The email that I received from Adobe did not prompt me to add three email addresses. There were two links, "Download now" and "Share with fiends and colleagues". Since I have no friends (that I wish to mail bomb) I chose "Download now" -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: lightroom 3 beta free download
Probably was less of a direct mail campaign than one of your friends asking them to send you that mail: "...a page where I have to enter email addresses for three people I want to share the news with." -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: 20. januar 2010 22:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: lightroom 3 beta free download On 21/01/2010, John Francis wrote: > Another thing: is this really news? I've been running the LR3 beta for > three months, and I'm pretty sure it was discussed on the list back then. It's news today because Adobe executed a direct mail campaign to registered users last night. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Enjoyed these. Thanks for sharing. Paul On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Christian, I especially liked the shot of the Opera House and the bridge. The way you've shot it, you made the shapes compliment one another. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christian wrote: Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, Brian and Anthony. http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html Enjoy -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Christian, I especially liked the shot of the Opera House and the bridge. The way you've shot it, you made the shapes compliment one another. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christian wrote: > Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with Rob, > Brian and Anthony. > > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html > > Enjoy > -- > > Christian > http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fw: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Just got word from Pentax repair, that my K20D needs a new CCD image sensor.
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Cost to repair $402.
If it was a little more I'd probably be buying a K-7.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Ken Waller"
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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: K20D - Hot pixel ?
Resent with URL to image defect http://tinyurl.com/5wxjf
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Ken Waller"
Subject: K20D - Hot pixel ?
After approx 3850 images, my K20D started producing a defect in the
images, not related to SD card or battery charge. It occurs at all ISO's,
all lenses, shutter speeds & apertures. Interestingly it is not apparent
in live view.
I've run the pixel mapping routine several time with no affect on this
spot.
It evidences itself as a noticeable bright spot near the RH edge of the
image (in landscape orientation), with a vertical black line from top to
bottom running thru the spot.
Its close enough to the RH edge that it can be cropped out with only a
small loss of image size, but I don't want to have to crop every image.
The body will probably find its way to Pentax Repair, but I thought I'd
get some input from the collective minds on the list. Depending on the
cost to repair, this may push me into getting a K7.
Your thoughts are welcomed
Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - Bond Falls
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Tom C" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Bond Falls I'd like to add that this may be my all time favorite that I've seen of your work here... I've liked quite a bit, but this is a standout... That really means alot to me, coming from you Tom, your photographic works, from what I've seen, speak for themself. Thanks to all that looked and took the time to comment. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Tom C wrote: Wonderful image Ken! Beautiful & nicely balanced. Tom On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Ken Waller wrote: A world class misty,frosty morning at Bond Falls, taken late October, in the western part of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html K20D, 16-50mm SMC DA* f2.8 - .6 sec/f22/200 ISO Gitzo 3530LS with Bogen mini-gear head. Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trafalgar Square 23 Jan
On 20/1/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: >William Robb mentioned that there will be a gathering to show solidarity >against the authorities' hounding of photographers. It starts at 12Noon: >http://photographernotaterrorist.org/ > >I think I'll go along and I know Bob W was interested; maybe Cotty too. > >Anyone else? Cotty? Bob? (I know you wouldn't be able to get there until >later) I'd love to but am rostered on at work that day :-( -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
On 21/01/2010, Bob Sullivan wrote: > So imagine some night you're gonna meet a 16 year old in a 3,000 pound van > who has just downed a 6 pack of beer for fun. All his inhibitions are > released, > and he's like to see how fast this van can go... > Or maybe your wife & kids will meet him on their way home. It's sobering, so to speak: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/20/2796615.htm -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Known Universe
On 20/1/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100120.html Totally compulsive. Thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop
I just upgraded to a new box w/Win7/64 bit. So far have had pretty much no problems running 32 bit software - PSE6, ProShow Gold, BreezeBrowser, FotoFusion, an older version of Acrobat and others. They all seem to run more quickly, but I don't know if that's a function of a 64 bit OS or faster hardware or both. Haven't installed LR2 yet, but that should install as a 64 bit unless I specifically run the 32 bit install. I've been told that one glitch w/64 bit LR is not being able to publish an album to the web from w/in LR - a function which works from the 32 bit version - but I can't verify that from my own experience. I *do* make it a point to check the vendors website to see if they have any notes on running their software on Win7/64 bit. It seems a really critical thing is the drivers - printer drivers, etc - you need to make sure there is a 64 bit driver available to support your printer, 'cause a 32 bit driver won't work. -p On 1/20/2010 2:12 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Took my laptop in this morning and had 4GB RAM installed (up from 2GB). Turns out Windows Vista Ultimate is only 32bit and limits the amount of RAM it can use to supposedly 3.5GB - System Information is showing 3,069.44MB which I make to be 2.99GB. Don't know why it doesn't show the whole 3.5GB. OTOH, I found out the laptop has two physical hard drives where I thought it had one drive partitioned into two logical drives, so I may have more upgrade options than I originally thought. One thing I started thinking about this morning is installing Windows 7 Professional 64 bit. Has anyone had experience with 64 bit versions of Windows? Especially running PhotoshopCS3? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2634 - Release Date: 01/20/10 03:12:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
I sat on the local liquor commission for a number of years. They heard new liquor license petitions and controlled buy violations and made recommends. (Yes, they used under aged teens to test the existing establishments for compliance. An underage teen would present an under aged drivers license for checking/refusal.) We heard one incident that really bothered me and shows the problems. Detectives were in an unmarked car at a local convenience center. They noticed a van of kids approach another older teen entering a liquor store. They got the older kid (with a fake ID) to buy them a case of beer. The kids, 16 to 13 years old, were going to drink the beer while driving around. So imagine some night you're gonna meet a 16 year old in a 3,000 pound van who has just downed a 6 pack of beer for fun. All his inhibitions are released, and he's like to see how fast this van can go... Or maybe your wife & kids will meet him on their way home. You want to get shit faced, falling down drunk at home, I'd say go for it. But most parents won't tolerate that behavior a home, so the teens go out driving in the car. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bob W wrote: >> > in the open to be seen by children who could be scarred for life if >> > they see an open can of beer sitting on the ground. >> >> Here, it's the adults who are scarred from seeing teens (and >> younger) drunk enough to pass out, run in front of vehicles >> or commit various crimes. Police have the authority to >> confiscate alcohol for immediate destruction (usually poured >> down the nearest drain) from anyone found to be in posession >> when underage. Unfortunately cheap alcohol is so cheap here >> that it is not really a deterrent. > > There needs to be a bit more tolerance of under-age drinking - I think the > extreme intolerance we seem to have developed in recent years is at least > partly to blame for binge drinking. > > I first got drunk when I was about 13 or 14 and bought a litre and a half of > cheap cider which I drank in the park on a Saturday afternoon, to see what > it was like. It's a rite of passage. > > >From the age of 14 my school friends and I were drinking on Friday nights in > pubs in the market town where we lived. In one of the other rooms of the pub > some of the teachers also drank, knowing perfectly well that we were also in > there. In fact, my history teacher once bought us all a round. It had been > going on for generations and was well controlled. We couldn't afford more > than a couple of pints each so we couldn't really get drunk, but we didn't > feel any need to buy the cheapest, strongest booze we could just to go out > and get hammered. > > Introducing young people to adulthood is a gradual process. If you > deliberately exclude them then you're bound to get problems. > > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom 3 beta free download
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:43:10AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 21/01/2010, John Francis wrote: > > > Another thing: is this really news? I've been running the LR3 beta for > > three months, and I'm pretty sure it was discussed on the list back then. > > It's news today because Adobe executed a direct mail campaign to > registered users last night. Ah. Thanks for the information. I didn't see anything in my inbox, but that may well be because I'm already on the Beta list. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double Geso - Death Valley and Sequoia National Forest
Thanks to everyone. I have added few more photos and one panorama: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4289544499/in/set-72157623246458774/ probably worth exploring in original size- large is too small :P --S On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 19/1/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I have just returned from a long weekend. >>Still too many photos to process, but I'd like to share the first batch: >> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157623246202820/ >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157623122326575/ > > Beautiful. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > -- http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom 3 beta free download
On 21/01/2010, John Francis wrote: > Another thing: is this really news? I've been running the LR3 beta for > three months, and I'm pretty sure it was discussed on the list back then. It's news today because Adobe executed a direct mail campaign to registered users last night. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:37 +, "Cotty" wrote: > On 20/1/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with > >Rob, Brian and Anthony. > > > >http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html > > > >Enjoy > > Great set of pics, you bastard. > Eloquently put. I was trying to think of an appropriate response, but that says it all! :-)> Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: OT: Wildlife photographer Stripped From: Christian Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Stripped of the award he won, that is: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm > While in Sydney I saw the exhibition and the photo in question at the Australian Museum. Next to this photo was a news article about the controversy and questions about whether it would be disqualified. I'm happy to see it disqualified and the photographer being banned for life from the competition. He's gonna have a real hard time entering any competitions and restoring his credibility. The sad part is that there were some other really really great photos there that could have won the top honors. It looked staged to me, but in the article the photographer denies it was an "animal actor". What I don't understand is how they passed it in the first place. Does it look any more staged now than it did then? The basis given for the judges subsequent determination isn't sufficient for me. I'm not satisfied their after the fact investigation PROVED it was staged. I agree but it is THEIR contest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom 3 beta free download
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:29:05PM -0600, Bran Everseeking wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:58:59 -0500 > John Sessoms wrote: > > > I finally ended up just Googling "Adobe Lightroom 3 beta" and > > following the link to Adobe I found there. > > > sorry about that. I had no idea it would lead to that kinda hell. when > I got on the list they wanted my email and then gave me access to > beta's without a huge mess. > > will remember to check those things in the future. > > Bran Another thing: is this really news? I've been running the LR3 beta for three months, and I'm pretty sure it was discussed on the list back then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
On 20/1/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: >Finally got around to editing and posting some shots of my meet up with >Rob, Brian and Anthony. > >http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2010/01/nsw-pdml.html > >Enjoy Great set of pics, you bastard. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - NSW PDML
Thanks Brian. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" Subject: Re: GESO - NSW PDML On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:35 -0500, "Christian" wrote: Thanks. Rob and Brian posted a pic or two of me. :-) Ahem. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PDML_Sydney_Jan2010/slides/_IGP6006j.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double Geso - Death Valley and Sequoia National Forest
On 19/1/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have just returned from a long weekend. >Still too many photos to process, but I'd like to share the first batch: > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157623246202820/ >http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157623122326575/ Beautiful. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
