Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[Cotty]

On 3/2/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If people choose an Apple or an iPhone, fine.  I have a iPod Touch and
>love it but would not give ATT a dime for an iPhone or their service.
>Based upon their (ATT) prior false advertising and no recourse
>policies, they would owe me a free iPhone before I'd use them again.

Over here the iPhone cell providers have opened up, we now have several
choices. I'v just moved from 02 back to Vodafone.

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Re: Surgery tomorrow!

[Cotty]

On 3/2/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Fortunately, since Lisa's specialty is bone tumors, she knows the
>orthopedic surgeons pretty well - not that she'll be seen by any of
>the ones at Children's Hospital! But they know who the best guys in
>rest of the Harvard Medical System are. Um, best guys and women - I
>think the surgeon who's doing Lisa's wrist is a woman.

Having met Lisa I would assume she'll be directing the operation?

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Re: Surgery tomorrow!

[Boris Liberman]

Mark, please pass my best thoughts and wishes of complete recovery to Lisa.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Not for me, but for Dr. Lisa and her broken wrist.
>
> When she came home yesterday even *I* could tell that it was going to
> need to be pinned back together. Quite ugly looking.
>
> Fortunately, since Lisa's specialty is bone tumors, she knows the
> orthopedic surgeons pretty well - not that she'll be seen by any of
> the ones at Children's Hospital! But they know who the best guys in
> rest of the Harvard Medical System are. Um, best guys and women - I
> think the surgeon who's doing Lisa's wrist is a woman.
>
> Big fun...
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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:57 -0500, "Daniel J. Matyola"
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> Following Brian's suggestion, I made a shorter crop of this image:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10620585
> 


Yes - I think that's a definite improvement.  That's an attractive
animal.


Cheers

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Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:53 -0800, "Rick Womer" 
wrote:
> An early May morning in Brugge, Belgium.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10621710&size=lg
> 



Really nice.  The building would be excellent on its own but I like the
way the symmetry of the building is balanced by the pedestrian.

One of your best I think.


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Re: 225 bits of advice

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:02 -0600, "Bran Everseeking"
 wrote:
> from the sublime to the other thing
> 
> 132. Take a back up camera and memory cards. And never rely on your
> hard drive...
> 
> 
> http://www.photoradar.com/techniques/tips/225-photography-tips-to-inspire-you
>



225 tips!!!

Holy crap - I think I'm doing well if I remember to pack my lunch.



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Re: PESO 2010 - 022 - GDG

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:42 -0800, "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
wrote:
> The photo's been up for a few days, finally found the words that were  
> trying to surface ...
> 
>http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/perishable
> 
> Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. :-)
> 



A really intriguing image with excellent rendering of light and shadow. 
Almost a 'waterfall-like' effect.


Cheers

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rough night

[Larry Colen]

A friend asked me to photograph a dance class he was teaching tonight.

The view through  my K100 was horrible, when I got home I tried to  
clean the viewfinder but it seems to have some sort of nasty film on  
the back glass of the eyepiece.  Either that, or something was eating  
at some anti reflective coating (is there one?) on it.


I tried cleaning it with lens cleaning solution, but that did no good  
whatsoever.  This, mind you, is not the camera that is missing the  
rubber eyecup.
I haven't tried cleaning it with serious solvents, like berryman's B12  
chemtool.  I suspect that would cause more harm than good.


After class, Ted was copying my raw files off my SD card and something  
went wrong with the transfer of the files from the K20.


Some weird files showed up on it:
ls: USBC\033␀␀␀.␀€␀: File name too long
total 384
-rwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff   4096 Feb  3 22:44 ._.Trashes
drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  3 22:44 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwx@ 1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:17 .Trashes
drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  65536 Feb  4 01:17 .
drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:18 .fseventsd
drwxrwxrwt@ 8 root  admin272 Feb  4 01:20 ..

Fortunately a bit of research found a program called photorec which  
seems to be recovering the data.


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Re: Magnum booty moves house

[Derby Chang]

frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
  

This seems rather sad but beautiful at the same time. Magnum press prints
are sold to Michael Dell, but they will be available for scholarly study for
5 years. Maybe, surely, some gems will be unearthed when they go through the
collection

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/arts/design/02magnum.html?em

Are the negatives still in Magnum's office? Shouldn't they be in a
temperature controlled archive as well?



Interesting story.  Kind of sad in a way, but maybe not so sad if
these are more accessible to the public and/or scholars.

cheers,
frank

  


NYT has a slideshow sample of the prints.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/archive-11/

Boy, what long legs Edie Sedgwick had



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Re: SDM repair complete

[Carlos R]

John Celio escribió:
Hopefully the technician didn't 
shoehorn a Sigma motor in there somehow. ;)




Sigma uses ring motors in their HSM lenses. They are better than than 
the micro motors Pentax use in SDM lenses, I'm afraid.


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RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Rick Womer]

Tanya,

If you want a Mac, go for it.  My MacBook Pro gets along just fine with the 
Windows-oriented network at work, and I've traveled with it to friends' houses 
with all-PC networks and not had any problems.

Rick

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> From: Tanya Love 
> Subject: RE: Laptop computers with good displays?
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 10:33 PM
> I'd love to hear thoughts on this
> too!  Just got myself sorted with my K-7,
> now I need a new lappy to keep up with the higher res
> images! ;)
> 
> Been considering switching to Mac but don't think I'm going
> to as that would
> make things hard with software and networking the other
> 'puters in the house
> etc.
> 
> I too don't want a big display, makes it much too heavy and
> won't fit in my
> awesome Crumpler backpack!  I will do most editing on
> an external monitor,
> but even so
> would like a decent one on my laptop too.  
> 
> Has anyone got any experience with the Dell Precision 6400
> that was in
> Advanced Photoshop magazine?  It is here:
> http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/workstation-pre
> cision-m6400-cov?c=au&cs=aubsd1&l=en&s=bsd
> 
> That thing is a MONSTER!  Oh, how I DREAM about
> something like that!
> BUT, alas, my meagre budget is only about half of the $5699
> asking price, so
> I'll probably end up with another HP... :(
> 
> Tan.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
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> Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:11 PM
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> 
> Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA)
> displays?
> Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there
> weren't any high
> quality displays under 17" and I'd prefer something smaller
> than that if
> possible.
> 
> My current laptop just died. It's a total "nothing lights
> up" failure, so I
> have a sneaking suspicion that it's something very basic
> and not a
> prohibitively expensive fix. But if fate does bless me with
> an expensive
> repair that justifies ditching it and buying a new
> computer, I'd like to be
> prepared...
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Christian]

If Bill is coming out here, let me know when and I'll crash the party...

Christian

Tom C wrote:

I went to this fantastic seafood place in Annapolis today (Yellow
Fin).  Nice and good ambience, but great menu, wine list and of course
seafood (steaks as well).

This is just a stupid off the wall, inebriated idea, but does Delta
fly in to Regina? or somewhere near?  Because shortly I could possibly
trade in miles for a free flight and you could come spend a weekend in
Maryland/DC.

Just a thought...

Your Tom.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:17 PM, William Robb  wrote:

- Original Message - From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I



LOL.

You guys should all know by now we're different.

I'm an analytical IT geek, analyze things to death and blather on in
my analysis.

Bill speaks his mind and does so strongly because they took his chainsaws
away.

Paul's a grandfather and has new found joy in his life, liking almost
every photograph exhibited.

Mark's an intellectual and see's things from both sides, hoping he'll
figure where to land.

Fun, eh? :-)

It's the Tourette's.
You owe me a glass of Merlot and a keyboard.

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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[paul stenquist]

I found it interesting that the ipad has 1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 
ppi. That's a high res monitor. I'd like one mainly for reading on airplanes 
and in hotel rooms, but using it for photo storage and review would be nice as 
well. However, I don't travel as much as I once did, so I can't really justify 
it at the moment. I also want to wait for generation two. If the iphone is a 
model for the rollout here, the next version of ipad will be a significant step 
up.
Paul
On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> Why do people keep saying that the iPad has no USB? It has the 30-pin iPod 
> connector which will have a USB adaptor available. (Though I expect any 
> connected USB device will need to be self-powered.)
> 
> I'll buy an iPad to travel with when:
> a. I can put Lightroom or a compatible on it, so
> b. When I download photos I'll be able to tag, rate, etc. and then
> c. When I get home I can move the photos to permanent storage with 
> preliminary ratings etc. preserved.
> d. And when I am home, the iPad should function as a graphic tablet for use 
> with LR, Photoshop etc.
> 
> It'll be a big improvement over the iPhone for navigating via Google maps.
> Wonderful for slide-shows.
> Would be nice to have the Pentax Remote installed, combination of size and 
> battery life would be an improvement over using a laptop. To say nothing of 
> the touch-screen controls.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:34 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
>> From: paul stenquist
>>> Good idea. Electronic textbooks are starting to appear. It won't be long 
>>> until they're the status quo. Paul
>>> On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Here is my idea of a runaway hit for the iPad.
> 1) Make it multitask apps - you'll see why in a minute
> 2) Negotiate with College Textbook publishers for ebooks of all
> textbooks - $50 a pop - way cheaper than the printed ones, but COGS
> is low
> 3) Have a decent note taking app
> 4) Have a small, decent word processor
> 5) sell to college students instead of a laptop
>> I have two girls in college.  Books are outrageous in price.  The
> battery life of the iPad and ebooks would work perfectly for them.
> Beyond lots of web surfing/social networking, just lightweight word
> processing is needed.  The appeal of the iPad would be embraced by
> that group.  The price is a no brainer because I wouldn't have to buy
> them a laptop and the cost of college texts would more than pay for
> the device the first year.
> 
>> 
>> Interestingly, I was reading in another forum about Apple's effect on the 
>> prices of ebooks.
>> 
>> Apparently Steve Jobs at Apple was a prime mover behind major textbook 
>> publisher MacMillan's decision extort higher prices from Amazon for their 
>> books on Amazon's Kindle.
>> 
>> Higher prices for ebooks diminish the Kindle's price advantage.
>> 
>> As for the ipad ... well, it doesn't multi-task, and Apple appears prepared 
>> to continue the same restrictive tactics they've adopted regarding iphone 
>> apps, so it's a forlorn hope getting a decent note taking app or small 
>> decent word processor.
>> 
>> And there's no USB, it's Wi-Fi only, so you're going to have to buy them a 
>> laptop anyway.
>> 
>> You can get a decent netbook and a Wacom Bamboo pen tablet for the price of 
>> the basic ipad, and they WILL multitask and DO have USB already.
>> 
>> Did someone else post this here? Or did I find it somewhere else?
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXpbGaIkPlw
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Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge

[paul stenquist]

A very pleasant and appealing scene. Nicely done.
Paul
On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Beautifully timed and rendered. An appealing scrubbed and bright scene.
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>> From: Rick Womer 
>> Subject: PESO - Morning in Brugge
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 6:53 PM
>> An early May morning in Brugge,
>> Belgium.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10621710&size=lg
>> 
>> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/350)
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>>   
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Re: PESO Watcher

[paul stenquist]

Thanks Christine. And thanks to all who had a look or commented.
Paul


On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> That's great, Paul.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "P N Stenquist" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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> 
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>> 
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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Cotty wrote:

> On 3/2/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Apple's proponents get mighty shy when it comes time to actually
>> demonstrate it. Mostly I've seen the spinning pizza wheel of death.
> 
> Sorry John I find this odd and not at all in my experience.

Exactly. I can't recall the last time that either my macbook or my imac 
crashed. I suppose others might find fault with them, but instability wouldn't 
be among them.
> 
>> Like I wrote, I got people telling me I'm stupid because I don't have an
>> iphone in the very same breath that they're cussin' their own iphone
>> because they can't get it to work.
> 
> May I suggest you're hanging out with people that perhaps would find
> time better spent in a meat grinder?
> 
> 
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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[paul stenquist]

If I could get Verizon on an iPhone, I'd probably buy one. Although I'm not 
sure I need a smart phone. Dumb phones meet my needs.
Paul
On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Cotty wrote:

> On 3/2/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> If people choose an Apple or an iPhone, fine.  I have a iPod Touch and
>> love it but would not give ATT a dime for an iPhone or their service.
>> Based upon their (ATT) prior false advertising and no recourse
>> policies, they would owe me a free iPhone before I'd use them again.
> 
> Over here the iPhone cell providers have opened up, we now have several
> choices. I'v just moved from 02 back to Vodafone.
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Re: Surgery tomorrow!

[Walter Hamler]

Mark, some here, including you, may remember that my son had a
horrible bike accident over two tears ago. His right wrist was
shattered so badly that all the bones around the joint area were
utterly destroyed. There were only fragments to try to mend together.
The surgeon, not a young man, declared it the worst break he had ever
encountered. We were devastated to say the least.
However, two years and two surgeries later, he is doing great and even
back to riding a mountain bike again, much to his parents dismay!
Modern medical miracles never cease to amaze me, and I really do have
great confidence in MOST of the medical professionals out there. Lisa
will be just fine, and in a year or so you both will have long since
quit worrying about her woe's!
In the meantime, we will keep the both of you, and the surgeons, in
our collective prayers!

Walt

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Not for me, but for Dr. Lisa and her broken wrist.
>
> When she came home yesterday even *I* could tell that it was going to
> need to be pinned back together. Quite ugly looking.
>
> Fortunately, since Lisa's specialty is bone tumors, she knows the
> orthopedic surgeons pretty well - not that she'll be seen by any of
> the ones at Children's Hospital! But they know who the best guys in
> rest of the Harvard Medical System are. Um, best guys and women - I
> think the surgeon who's doing Lisa's wrist is a woman.
>
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Re: PESO - The Real Thing

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I can see you never walk around with your eyes looking down.

;-)

Sasha, Dave, thanks for your comments.

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Re: PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Don't you mean "Dark, Cold, Wet, Miserable, Snowy Commute"?
>
> The photo conveys it very well.  I like it, but I'm glad I'm indoors.

Thanks to everyone who commented and looked.

I got mild enough yesterday that all 2 cm of snow that fell two nights
ago melted...

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Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> An early May morning in Brugge, Belgium.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10621710&size=lg
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> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/350)

Perfect timing, wonderful photo!

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RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Tanya Love]

Cool!  The lack of viruses is certainly appealing too.  I am thinking that I
would go for the 15" MacBook Pro, it's just that I haven't used a Mac since
highschool and although I know the user interface is so easy to work with, I
worry that I am not going to have the time to retrain myself on it, iykwim?
The other thing that sucks with them is that they are near impossible to
upgrade...

Decisions, decisions! Lol.

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Tanya,

If you want a Mac, go for it.  My MacBook Pro gets along just fine with the
Windows-oriented network at work, and I've traveled with it to friends'
houses with all-PC networks and not had any problems.

Rick

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling"

Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I


I could make a crack about the Harvard School of Business being nearly as 
destructive to good business as the Harvard School of Government has been 
to good governance, but I won't.


I was thinking that quoting from the Harvard Business School as a means of 
defending one's shaky business practices might not be wise in light of the 
present economic climate and what brought us to it, and I was going to 
refrain, but then, what the Hell. We are being all touchy feely, and how 
often do I get to agree with Peter.


I found that quote of Henry's to be right up there with the "We'll just 
presume we have a can opener" theory of economists stranded on a desert 
island.
Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your 
customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get new 
ones because you've dropped them all?


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Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-02-04 8:22, William Robb wrote:


If you drop 10% of your
customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get
new ones because you've dropped them all?


The thought that came to my mind was the company, I think it was Circuit 
City, who fired all of their highest producing salesmen a few years ago, 
because they were the most expensive (highest paid).  The company then 
filed for bankruptcy within about a year and has since been liquidated.


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[mike wilson]

 William Robb  wrote: 
> Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your 
> customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get new 
> ones because you've dropped them all?
> 
> William Robb 

How does a retailer drop a customer?  Pointblank refuse their order?  Do you 
come and take the goods back if they manage to sneak in under the radar?

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Re: Surgery tomorrow!

[Bob Sullivan]

Bob,  You need to have that look after.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> I've had 8 operations under GA, 6 of them in the last 14 years, ...

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Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Paul Sorenson]

On 2/3/2010 10:00 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:

Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays?
Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any
high quality displays under 17" and I'd prefer something smaller than
that if possible.

My current laptop just died. It's a total "nothing lights up" failure,
so I have a sneaking suspicion that it's something very basic and not
a prohibitively expensive fix. But if fate does bless me with an
expensive repair that justifies ditching it and buying a new computer,
I'd like to be prepared...




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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[John Mullan]

Actually the timing is a bit different.  Circuit City eliminated the 
commission plan in 2002, along with those salespeople who were the highest 
earners, and made everybody that was left hourly.  In 2006 they shot 
themselves in the other foot by eliminating those who were earning above a 
certain figure and then offered to rehire them at a lower wage. The chapter 
11 filing came in Nov 2008, the decision to liquidate in Jan 2009 and the 
doors closed for the last time on March 8, 2009.  I was there for all of 
this.


When CC was commissioned there was a salesman in my store that never worked 
more than 30 hours in a week, yet earned more than the store manager. I 
never figured out their logic in letting someone like that go, he wasn't 
costing the company money, he was making it for the company and they were 
only paying him a very small percentage of what he sold. I can't remember 
the exact percentages but they had three rates for products, accessories, 
and extended warranties. Warranties had the highest commission rate.


jm
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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Subject: Myopic Bulls**t Artists



On 2010-02-04 8:22, William Robb wrote:


If you drop 10% of your
customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get
new ones because you've dropped them all?


The thought that came to my mind was the company, I think it was Circuit 
City, who fired all of their highest producing salesmen a few years ago, 
because they were the most expensive (highest paid).  The company then 
filed for bankruptcy within about a year and has since been liquidated.


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Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge

[Christian]

Rick Womer wrote:

An early May morning in Brugge, Belgium.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10621710&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/350)

Rick




It looks like a lego house.  nice catch and I like the symmetry.

Christian


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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Bob Sullivan]

The 80-20 rule, Pareto's principle, is great and very powerful.  80%
of your business comes from 20% of your customers.  Or 20% of your
salesmen generate 80% of your revenues (The Circuit City example).

The Harvard Business Review article sounds about right.  The best 20%
of your customer base generates 80% of your business.  The last 10% of
the customers churn from vendor to vendor causing problems.  They are
very 'high maintenance'.

Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't believe you want to
keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who cause you all those
problems.

Regards, Bob S,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Doug Franklin  wrote:
> On 2010-02-04 8:22, William Robb wrote:
>
>> If you drop 10% of your
>> customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get
>> new ones because you've dropped them all?
>
> The thought that came to my mind was the company, I think it was Circuit
> City, who fired all of their highest producing salesmen a few years ago,
> because they were the most expensive (highest paid).  The company then filed
> for bankruptcy within about a year and has since been liquidated.
>
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"

Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I







Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your
customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get 
new

ones because you've dropped them all?





How does a retailer drop a customer?  Pointblank refuse their order?  Do 
you come and take the goods back if they >manage to sneak in under the 
radar?


I'll leave Henry to explain that as well.

The entire concept comes across as drooling idiot stupid, but perhaps Henry 
could explain why it isn't.

Unless Elvis has left the building, that is.

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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Mullan"

Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists


Actually the timing is a bit different.  Circuit City eliminated the 
commission plan in 2002, along with those salespeople who were the highest 
earners, and made everybody that was left hourly.  In 2006 they shot 
themselves in the other foot by eliminating those who were earning above a 
certain figure and then offered to rehire them at a lower wage. The 
chapter 11 filing came in Nov 2008, the decision to liquidate in Jan 2009 
and the doors closed for the last time on March 8, 2009.  I was there for 
all of this.


When CC was commissioned there was a salesman in my store that never 
worked more than 30 hours in a week, yet earned more than the store 
manager. I never figured out their logic in letting someone like that go, 
he wasn't costing the company money, he was making it for the company and 
they were only paying him a very small percentage of what he sold. I can't 
remember the exact percentages but they had three rates for products, 
accessories, and extended warranties. Warranties had the highest 
commission rate.




I worked for a cmpany like that for a few years. In typical MBA fashion, he 
had his ledger book with three columns.

Money in, money out and total money.
Anything in the money out column was bad, and he was alwasy striving to keep 
the numbers in that column small to non existent.
Unfortunately, he put the wages he paid out into that column, the 
consequence being that he saw his employees as a liability.
After a while, no one would work for him and the company closed. The last I 
heard, he was running a bong shop in a local low rent mall.


I wonder how long B&H would stay viable if, every year, they fired the top 
10% of their wage earners and replaced them with high school kids?


William Robb


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Re: rough night

[Bruce Dayton]

It's an omen...

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Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:31:58 AM, you wrote:

LC> A friend asked me to photograph a dance class he was teaching tonight.

LC> The view through  my K100 was horrible, when I got home I tried to  
LC> clean the viewfinder but it seems to have some sort of nasty film on  
LC> the back glass of the eyepiece.  Either that, or something was eating
LC> at some anti reflective coating (is there one?) on it.

LC> I tried cleaning it with lens cleaning solution, but that did no good
LC> whatsoever.  This, mind you, is not the camera that is missing the  
LC> rubber eyecup.
LC> I haven't tried cleaning it with serious solvents, like berryman's B12
LC> chemtool.  I suspect that would cause more harm than good.

LC> After class, Ted was copying my raw files off my SD card and something
LC> went wrong with the transfer of the files from the K20.

LC> Some weird files showed up on it:
LC> ls: USBC\033␀␀␀.␀€␀: File name too long
LC> total 384
LC> -rwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff   4096 Feb  3 22:44 ._.Trashes
LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  3 22:44 .Spotlight-V100
LC> drwxrwxrwx@ 1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:17 .Trashes
LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  65536 Feb  4 01:17 .
LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:18 .fseventsd
LC> drwxrwxrwt@ 8 root  admin272 Feb  4 01:20 ..

LC> Fortunately a bit of research found a program called photorec which  
LC> seems to be recovering the data.

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Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

[John Sessoms]

From: Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

> Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays?
> Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any
> high quality displays under 17" and I'd prefer something smaller than
> that if possible.
> 
> My current laptop just died. It's a total "nothing lights up" failure,

> so I have a sneaking suspicion that it's something very basic and not
> a prohibitively expensive fix. But if fate does bless me with an
> expensive repair that justifies ditching it and buying a new computer,
> I'd like to be prepared...
> 



time for an iPad


Please don't do that while I'm still trying to get my first cup of 
coffee in the morning.


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Re: rough night

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> It's an omen...

See the D700 on the self there.

Dave
>
> --
> Bruce
>
>
> Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:31:58 AM, you wrote:
>
> LC> A friend asked me to photograph a dance class he was teaching tonight.
>
> LC> The view through  my K100 was horrible, when I got home I tried to
> LC> clean the viewfinder but it seems to have some sort of nasty film on
> LC> the back glass of the eyepiece.  Either that, or something was eating
> LC> at some anti reflective coating (is there one?) on it.
>
> LC> I tried cleaning it with lens cleaning solution, but that did no good
> LC> whatsoever.  This, mind you, is not the camera that is missing the
> LC> rubber eyecup.
> LC> I haven't tried cleaning it with serious solvents, like berryman's B12
> LC> chemtool.  I suspect that would cause more harm than good.
>
> LC> After class, Ted was copying my raw files off my SD card and something
> LC> went wrong with the transfer of the files from the K20.
>
> LC> Some weird files showed up on it:
> LC> ls: USBC\033␀␀␀.␀€␀: File name too long
> LC> total 384
> LC> -rwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff   4096 Feb  3 22:44 ._.Trashes
> LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  3 22:44 .Spotlight-V100
> LC> drwxrwxrwx@ 1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:17 .Trashes
> LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  65536 Feb  4 01:17 .
> LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:18 .fseventsd
> LC> drwxrwxrwt@ 8 root  admin    272 Feb  4 01:20 ..
>
> LC> Fortunately a bit of research found a program called photorec which
> LC> seems to be recovering the data.
>
> LC> --
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Re: rough night

[David Savage]

Hey, point somewhere else, that's my shelf your pointing at.


On 4 February 2010 22:39, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
>> It's an omen...
>
> See the D700 on the self there.
>
> Dave
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:31:58 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> LC> A friend asked me to photograph a dance class he was teaching tonight.
>>
>> LC> The view through  my K100 was horrible, when I got home I tried to
>> LC> clean the viewfinder but it seems to have some sort of nasty film on
>> LC> the back glass of the eyepiece.  Either that, or something was eating
>> LC> at some anti reflective coating (is there one?) on it.
>>
>> LC> I tried cleaning it with lens cleaning solution, but that did no good
>> LC> whatsoever.  This, mind you, is not the camera that is missing the
>> LC> rubber eyecup.
>> LC> I haven't tried cleaning it with serious solvents, like berryman's B12
>> LC> chemtool.  I suspect that would cause more harm than good.
>>
>> LC> After class, Ted was copying my raw files off my SD card and something
>> LC> went wrong with the transfer of the files from the K20.
>>
>> LC> Some weird files showed up on it:
>> LC> ls: USBC\033␀␀␀.␀€␀: File name too long
>> LC> total 384
>> LC> -rwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff   4096 Feb  3 22:44 ._.Trashes
>> LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  3 22:44 .Spotlight-V100
>> LC> drwxrwxrwx@ 1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:17 .Trashes
>> LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  65536 Feb  4 01:17 .
>> LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:18 .fseventsd
>> LC> drwxrwxrwt@ 8 root  admin    272 Feb  4 01:20 ..
>>
>> LC> Fortunately a bit of research found a program called photorec which
>> LC> seems to be recovering the data.
>>
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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:33 AM, William Robb  wrote:

> I wonder how long B&H would stay viable if, every year, they fired the top
> 10% of their wage earners and replaced them with high school kids?
>
> William Robb

Thats basically what my old surveying company did. Hired, as one of my
friends who is still there put it, Wal mart rejects. They are paid
about 1/2 of what the 7 of us were paid, but they have to keep sending
them back to job sites to fix up their mistakes.
I laugh every time he tells me stories.

Dave
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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Tom C]

I churn from vendor to vendor and rarely have caused a problem, if
ever.  A sale is a sale is a sale. If I knew I was going to be viewed
as a less desirable customer because I didn't have a long history of
purchasing from said vendor, I wouldn't shop there.

Possibly the best way to drop a customer though, is to make a sale and
then renig on the terms.  That will probably drop customers quicker
than anything else I can think of.

I have a Circuit City gift card I'll sell at 50% face value that I
forgot I had...

Tom C.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> The 80-20 rule, Pareto's principle, is great and very powerful.  80%
> of your business comes from 20% of your customers.  Or 20% of your
> salesmen generate 80% of your revenues (The Circuit City example).
>
> The Harvard Business Review article sounds about right.  The best 20%
> of your customer base generates 80% of your business.  The last 10% of
> the customers churn from vendor to vendor causing problems.  They are
> very 'high maintenance'.
>
> Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't believe you want to
> keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who cause you all those
> problems.
>
> Regards, Bob S,
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Doug Franklin  
> wrote:
>> On 2010-02-04 8:22, William Robb wrote:
>>
>>> If you drop 10% of your
>>> customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get
>>> new ones because you've dropped them all?
>>
>> The thought that came to my mind was the company, I think it was Circuit
>> City, who fired all of their highest producing salesmen a few years ago,
>> because they were the most expensive (highest paid).  The company then filed
>> for bankruptcy within about a year and has since been liquidated.
>>
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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan"

Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists




Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't believe you want to
keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who cause you all those
problems.


First, the number of "problem customers" is nowhere near that high, i would 
say less than 1/10 of 1%, and no, you encourage them to shop elsewhere. If 
you have a good business model, customers who want to cause problems don't 
get to do so.
If you refuse to serve 10% of the people who walk in your door, you will 
very quickly find yourself in a position where no one comes in any longer.


I mean really Bob, you retailed hamburgers for at least some your working 
career, did you see 10% of your customers as undesirable? Did wanting to 
look after their health and refusing the high profit "Supersize" option 
cause you to want to kick their sorry asses out the door for having anti 
corporate thoughts?


Did you refuse to serve the people who just stopped in for a coffee because 
they were a low profit maker for you?
What if they didn't want an order of fries with the Filet O Fish? Kick them 
out because they stole your profit margin on the meal?
Lets get real here for just a moment. You serve who comes in your door. It's 
what you take on when you open a store, whether you are flogging hamburgers 
ar cameras.
And when a customer brings a mis marked item to the till, you sell it to him 
for the price it is marked at, you don't villify him because you fucked up.


I asked Paul this, though it went unanswered, I suspect because it would 
have gone against the cheerleading he was doing for Robin Hood Photo, so 
I'll ask you as well.


You take a quart of milk up to the cash register and are told that the price 
marked is actually per pint even though it clearly indicates per quart on 
the price tag.

Do you happily pay double?
And
Do you think that the store has a right to brand you as a "problem" if you 
object?


I am interested to read your thoughts on this. 



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Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Bruce Dayton]

Something an old boss of mine taught me was to be wary of the 'Grass
is greener on the other side' syndrome.  If you are happy with the PC
world, then what is the incentive to move to a Mac?  If that world
were as wonderful as it is made out to be, the marketshare percentage
would be much higher.

If you spend equivalent money, you can get quite an amazing system,
or you could spend about half the money for a fairly equivalent
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Thursday, February 4, 2010, 5:17:05 AM, you wrote:

TL> Cool!  The lack of viruses is certainly appealing too.  I am thinking that I
TL> would go for the 15" MacBook Pro, it's just that I haven't used a Mac since
TL> highschool and although I know the user interface is so easy to work with, I
TL> worry that I am not going to have the time to retrain myself on it, iykwim?
TL> The other thing that sucks with them is that they are near impossible to
TL> upgrade...

TL> Decisions, decisions! Lol.

TL> -Original Message-
TL> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick
TL> Womer
TL> Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 10:09 PM
TL> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
TL> Subject: RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

TL> Tanya,

TL> If you want a Mac, go for it.  My MacBook Pro gets along just fine with the
TL> Windows-oriented network at work, and I've traveled with it to friends'
TL> houses with all-PC networks and not had any problems.

TL> Rick

TL> http://photo.net/photos/RickW






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Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Beautifully timed and rendered. An appealing scrubbed and bright scene.

Ditto

Dave
>
> Jack
>
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>> From: Rick Womer 
>> Subject: PESO - Morning in Brugge
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 6:53 PM
>> An early May morning in Brugge,
>> Belgium.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10621710&size=lg
>>
>> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/350)
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>> Rick
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Re: 225 bits of advice

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On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:56:23 +1100
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> 225 tips!!!
> 
> Holy crap - I think I'm doing well if I remember to pack my lunch.
> 
lunch!?  I knew I forgot something

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Re: OT Some good news at Casa Del Brooksie

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:11 PM, frank theriault
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> What's 30 minutes north of Stouffville?  Sounds like a nice place.

Mt Albert. Its about 20 minutes stright up the road form us.

>
> Even better, sounds like a nice place for you and Liz to visit!

I fear my John Deere will be making a trek or two this summer.:-)

Dave
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Re: 225 bits of advice

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Bran Everseeking
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>> 225 tips!!!
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>> Holy crap - I think I'm doing well if I remember to pack my lunch.
>>
> lunch!?  I knew I forgot something

If lunch is beer, I;m ok then

Dave
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Re: OT Some good news at Casa Del Brooksie

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> As you may recall, Erin and James are wedding in Oct and have been house
> hunting for 2-3 months. They put in an offer on an over priced, crappy
> house back in Dec, that no one wanted them to buy. Thankfully it
> failed the home inspection big time.
>
> Devastated, we convinced them to carry on, and re asses the areas they
> want to live in.
>
> Thankfully kids will, eventually , listen to their parents and they
> found a lovely 3 year old end unit townhouse about 20 minutes north of
> here. A tad more than i wanted them to spend, but manageable. Lovely
> house with a monster yard for a town house. Its the way the block sits
> in conjunction to the curve in the road, some were around 110' wide by
> 140' deep, in a pie shape. Most towns are 18' wide with a 10-12' back
> yard.
> Bonus.
>
> Now they just have to sit through 30 years of payments.:-)


What's 30 minutes north of Stouffville?  Sounds like a nice place.


Wouldn't that depend on what you're traveling IN?

By one horse open sleigh, 30 minutes north of Stouffeville is 
Stouffville. By SR-71 Blackbird, it's Moscow.


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[John Sessoms]

Sounds pretty much like being a teenager to me.

And growing older ... since I refuse to actually grow UP.

From: Tom C

I didn't know about the "law", but it seems that the essence of wisdom
may be the realization that one is ignorant. In that case, I'm wiser
than most.

Tom C.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Doug Franklin
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> On 2010-02-03 22:54, Tom C wrote:
>

>> Photography sucks. The more experience you have, the worse you become.

>
> That's true of pretty much every skilled pursuit. ?There's even a "law"
> about it, the name of which I can't recall. ?Maybe Dunning-Kruger Effect.
> ?The net-net is that people who really know a subject are aware of just how
> little they know, while the ignorant think they know everything.
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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"
IIRC there was a spate of news not /that/ long ago about tablet 
computers.  Basically a small laptop with a reversible screen that could 
be closed with the screen exposed to be used as a notepad with a special 
stilus.  There was supposed to be a special version of windows for it as 
well. All the iPad seems to be is a tablet PC without the keyboard, 
limited available software and less expansion.  True the least expensive 
iPad is less than half the price of least expensive Tablet PC I know 
about but still, it seems that there's a lot of hype here.


"Windows for Tablet PC" came out about the same time frame as Apple 
introduced the Newton ... or was that the fig?


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[P N Stenquist]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:26 AM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I







Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your
customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't  
get new

ones because you've dropped them all?





How does a retailer drop a customer?  Pointblank refuse their  
order?  Do you come and take the goods back if they >manage to  
sneak in under the radar?


I'll leave Henry to explain that as well.

The entire concept comes across as drooling idiot stupid, but  
perhaps Henry could explain why it isn't.

Unless Elvis has left the building, that is.



What Henry said was that it's probably a plus if you lose your bottom  
10%. Overall, not every year. And he's probably correct.

Paul



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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[P N Stenquist]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:07 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: "P. J. Alling"
IIRC there was a spate of news not /that/ long ago about tablet  
computers.  Basically a small laptop with a reversible screen that  
could be closed with the screen exposed to be used as a notepad  
with a special stilus.  There was supposed to be a special version  
of windows for it as well. All the iPad seems to be is a tablet PC  
without the keyboard, limited available software and less  
expansion.  True the least expensive iPad is less than half the  
price of least expensive Tablet PC I know about but still, it seems  
that there's a lot of hype here.


"Windows for Tablet PC" came out about the same time frame as Apple  
introduced the Newton ... or was that the fig?




The Tablet PC came about ten years after the Newton Message Pad: 2003  
vs. 1993.
There's an interesting article about the Tablet and Microsoft creative  
problems in general in today's Times. It's written by a former  
Microsoft VP who headed up the Tablet team. It's here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=2&ref=opinion

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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty


On 3/2/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:


>Apple's proponents get mighty shy when it comes time to actually
>demonstrate it. Mostly I've seen the spinning pizza wheel of death.


Sorry John I find this odd and not at all in my experience.



Yeah, well ... I think it's odd too. Could be statistical anomaly or it 
could be Steve Jobs hates me. I dunno'.



>Like I wrote, I got people telling me I'm stupid because I don't have an
>iphone in the very same breath that they're cussin' their own iphone
>because they can't get it to work.


May I suggest you're hanging out with people that perhaps would find
time better spent in a meat grinder?



Perhaps ... judge for yourself. All I'll say is two of the iphone crowd 
are in here somewhere among the 2009 winners:


http://www.cnpa.org/triangle/contests_gallery.php

CNPA is one of the photography groups I belong to. I can tolerate some 
people's Apple snobbery in return for the inspiration & support I get 
overall.




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Re: PESO: Emerging Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Christine and Brian.  I can always count on this group to
offer great suggestions and advice.

Dan

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:57 -0500, "Daniel J. Matyola"
>  wrote:
>> Following Brian's suggestion, I made a shorter crop of this image:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10620585
>>
>
>
> Yes - I think that's a definite improvement.  That's an attractive
> animal.
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> Cheers
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RE: Message from Henry Posner

[Henry Posner]

> I, as is to be expectred, stayed in charachter as the PDML's
> resident venal and invective spewing troll.
> We all have our part to play, after all.

It is possible to rise up, resist temptation, and overcome one's more base 
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genuine human being and constructive member of society.

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Re: rough night

[P. J. Alling]

You must be using a Mac, the .trashes file is where the Mac OS puts 
deleted files on a memory card.  Spotlight-V100 is part of the indexing 
system., and no I didn't know this before.  I'm a DOS/NTSF Wienie, 
Google can be your friend...


On 2/4/2010 5:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

A friend asked me to photograph a dance class he was teaching tonight.

The view through  my K100 was horrible, when I got home I tried to 
clean the viewfinder but it seems to have some sort of nasty film on 
the back glass of the eyepiece.  Either that, or something was eating 
at some anti reflective coating (is there one?) on it.


I tried cleaning it with lens cleaning solution, but that did no good 
whatsoever.  This, mind you, is not the camera that is missing the 
rubber eyecup.
I haven't tried cleaning it with serious solvents, like berryman's B12 
chemtool.  I suspect that would cause more harm than good.


After class, Ted was copying my raw files off my SD card and something 
went wrong with the transfer of the files from the K20.


Some weird files showed up on it:
ls: USBC\033␀␀␀.␀€␀: File name too long
total 384
-rwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff   4096 Feb  3 22:44 ._.Trashes
drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  3 22:44 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwx@ 1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:17 .Trashes
drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  65536 Feb  4 01:17 .
drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:18 .fseventsd
drwxrwxrwt@ 8 root  admin272 Feb  4 01:20 ..

Fortunately a bit of research found a program called photorec which 
seems to be recovering the data.


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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty

On 3/2/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:


>If people choose an Apple or an iPhone, fine.  I have a iPod Touch and
>love it but would not give ATT a dime for an iPhone or their service.
>Based upon their (ATT) prior false advertising and no recourse
>policies, they would owe me a free iPhone before I'd use them again.


Over here the iPhone cell providers have opened up, we now have several
choices. I'v just moved from 02 back to Vodafone.


Over here Verizon just bought Altel ... not sure if that would be 
considered a "move"?


I can't remember when I first got a cell phone, probably in 1991-1992 
after I got home from Desert Storm. I had a pager before then. Started 
with US Cellular who were bought by GTE.


There were huge gaps in their cell network, their service deteriorated 
and billing system made AT&T look good.


The only good thing GTE did was offer an odd cell phone that had a base 
station inside my house. Whenever I was within approximately 100 feet of 
the base station, it automatically switched over to my land line. 
Incoming calls would forward to my BellSouth phone number and I wouldn't 
use any of my minutes for those calls.


I switched to Altel some time in the late 90s when they discontinued 
that service.


In the US, moving from one provider to another is a pain because they 
all want to lock you into a contract for so many years.


I've already done my two years with Altel years ago so I don't have no 
steenkin' contract. Altel did seem to have the best network. I never had 
a gap in cell coverage with Altel.


And I guess with Verizon purchasing them the network coverage has gotten 
even better.


Besides all that, I feel the same way about AT&T that Tom C does. The 
devil will be wearing long-johns before I give them any of my money.


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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Bob Sullivan]

Bill,

You got me on the milk example.  I wouldn't pay them extra and would
stop shopping with them.  Does this mean I will stop shopping at B&H
because somebody complained?  Not until I see higher prices or
experience bad service.

On the Pareto rule (80/20), McD's gets 76% or their business from 26%
of the population who visit the stores once per week or more often.
Keeping these people happy and coming back is really important.  The
rest - not so much.

Vegans?  Not a very big part of the customer base.  Vegetarian food?
Not enough interest for McD's to offer it.  74% of the population
doesn't visit McD's in a week and your not interested in them?  You're
damned right!  (Nobody says this but if I was running the railroad...)
 The product and services offered do not appeal strongly to these
folks or fit into their lifestyles.  And offering products and
services that do is too damned expensive.  (I'm a dirty capitalist
stockholder now and insist McD's make a profit on it's enterprise.)

You can't be all things to all people.  Focus, focus, focus on the
part of the customer population that you can serve profitably.

(And I can see that I'll have to teach you about profit in a fast food
restaurant.  The meat sandwiches have the lowest profit margins and
the highest cost.  For drinks, the cup probably costs as much as the
liquid inside of it.  Great margins on drinks!  I enjoy going to
Burger King and buying a 99 cent double cheeseburger - just the
sandwich, no drink or fries.  It's my guerilla effort to help them go
out of business!)

Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:48 AM, William Robb  wrote:
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> - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan"
> Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
>
>
>
>
> Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't believe you want to
> keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who cause you all those
> problems.
>
>
> First, the number of "problem customers" is nowhere near that high, i would
> say less than 1/10 of 1%, and no, you encourage them to shop elsewhere. If
> you have a good business model, customers who want to cause problems don't
> get to do so.
> If you refuse to serve 10% of the people who walk in your door, you will
> very quickly find yourself in a position where no one comes in any longer.
>
> I mean really Bob, you retailed hamburgers for at least some your working
> career, did you see 10% of your customers as undesirable? Did wanting to
> look after their health and refusing the high profit "Supersize" option
> cause you to want to kick their sorry asses out the door for having anti
> corporate thoughts?
>
> Did you refuse to serve the people who just stopped in for a coffee because
> they were a low profit maker for you?
> What if they didn't want an order of fries with the Filet O Fish? Kick them
> out because they stole your profit margin on the meal?
> Lets get real here for just a moment. You serve who comes in your door. It's
> what you take on when you open a store, whether you are flogging hamburgers
> ar cameras.
> And when a customer brings a mis marked item to the till, you sell it to him
> for the price it is marked at, you don't villify him because you fucked up.
>
> I asked Paul this, though it went unanswered, I suspect because it would
> have gone against the cheerleading he was doing for Robin Hood Photo, so
> I'll ask you as well.
>
> You take a quart of milk up to the cash register and are told that the price
> marked is actually per pint even though it clearly indicates per quart on
> the price tag.
> Do you happily pay double?
> And
> Do you think that the store has a right to brand you as a "problem" if you
> object?
>
> I am interested to read your thoughts on this.
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Henry Posner]

> That's true of pretty much every skilled pursuit.  There's
> even a "law" about it, the name of which I can't recall.  Maybe
> Dunning-Kruger Effect.  The net-net is that people who really
> know a subject are aware of just how little they know, while
> the ignorant think they know everything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

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Re: Message from Henry Posner

[Bob Sullivan]

Henry,
Don't bother Bill, we like him that way.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Henry Posner  wrote:
>> I, as is to be expectred, stayed in charachter as the PDML's
>> resident venal and invective spewing troll.
>> We all have our part to play, after all.
>
> It is possible to rise up, resist temptation, and overcome one's more base 
> instincts in the constant struggle to progress from oxygen-using biped to 
> genuine human being and constructive member of society.
>
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>  regards,
>  Henry Posner
>  Director of Corporate Communications
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>  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/4/2010 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bill,

You got me on the milk example.  I wouldn't pay them extra and would
stop shopping with them.  Does this mean I will stop shopping at B&H
because somebody complained?  Not until I see higher prices or
experience bad service.

On the Pareto rule (80/20), McD's gets 76% or their business from 26%
of the population who visit the stores once per week or more often.
Keeping these people happy and coming back is really important.  The
rest - not so much.

Vegans?  Not a very big part of the customer base.  Vegetarian food?
Not enough interest for McD's to offer it.  74% of the population
doesn't visit McD's in a week and your not interested in them?  You're
damned right!  (Nobody says this but if I was running the railroad...)
  The product and services offered do not appeal strongly to these
folks or fit into their lifestyles.  And offering products and
services that do is too damned expensive.  (I'm a dirty capitalist
stockholder now and insist McD's make a profit on it's enterprise.)

You can't be all things to all people.  Focus, focus, focus on the
part of the customer population that you can serve profitably.

(And I can see that I'll have to teach you about profit in a fast food
restaurant.  The meat sandwiches have the lowest profit margins and
the highest cost.  For drinks, the cup probably costs as much as the
liquid inside of it.  Great margins on drinks!  I enjoy going to
Burger King and buying a 99 cent double cheeseburger - just the
sandwich, no drink or fries.  It's my guerilla effort to help them go
out of business!)

Regards,  Bob S.
   


That's what I do at McD's.  Not necessary to make them go out of 
business, but then my Cousin owns, (last I knew), 8 Burger Kings, (or 
rather the bank owns >50% of those stores, she runs them and takes a 
share of the profits), and I'd rather buy a loss leader from the 
competition, (plus McD's double cheese tastes more like a cheeseburger 
is /supposed/ to taste).



On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:48 AM, William Robb  wrote:
   

- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists




Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't believe you want to
keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who cause you all those
problems.


First, the number of "problem customers" is nowhere near that high, i would
say less than 1/10 of 1%, and no, you encourage them to shop elsewhere. If
you have a good business model, customers who want to cause problems don't
get to do so.
If you refuse to serve 10% of the people who walk in your door, you will
very quickly find yourself in a position where no one comes in any longer.

I mean really Bob, you retailed hamburgers for at least some your working
career, did you see 10% of your customers as undesirable? Did wanting to
look after their health and refusing the high profit "Supersize" option
cause you to want to kick their sorry asses out the door for having anti
corporate thoughts?

Did you refuse to serve the people who just stopped in for a coffee because
they were a low profit maker for you?
What if they didn't want an order of fries with the Filet O Fish? Kick them
out because they stole your profit margin on the meal?
Lets get real here for just a moment. You serve who comes in your door. It's
what you take on when you open a store, whether you are flogging hamburgers
ar cameras.
And when a customer brings a mis marked item to the till, you sell it to him
for the price it is marked at, you don't villify him because you fucked up.

I asked Paul this, though it went unanswered, I suspect because it would
have gone against the cheerleading he was doing for Robin Hood Photo, so
I'll ask you as well.

You take a quart of milk up to the cash register and are told that the price
marked is actually per pint even though it clearly indicates per quart on
the price tag.
Do you happily pay double?
And
Do you think that the store has a right to brand you as a "problem" if you
object?

I am interested to read your thoughts on this.

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RE: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Henry Posner]

> I was thinking that quoting from the Harvard Business School
> as a means of defending one's shaky business practices might
> not be wise in light of the present economic climate and what
> brought us to it, and I was going to refrain, but then, what
> the Hell. We are being all touchy feely, and how often do I
> get to agree with Peter.

Fine. Let's say I didn't read it in the HBR. Let's say it was on the back of a 
Rice Chex box. The concept remains as provocative. Criticizing the source (HBR) 
and ignoring the concept is a typical Straw Man argument, I believe, and 
obscures the real issue which is -- are there customers too expensive or too 
troublesome for a company to keep and does a company benefit from purposely 
dropping unprofitable and difficult customers?

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Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Igor Roshchin]

Mark,

Sorry, somebody might have responded with this information already - 
I am short on time to read the entire thread at the moment.

Fujitsu laptops in general tend to have good quality screens.
I never researched the type of the LCDs.

If you are looking for "ultraportable" line (comparable in size to
netbooks but with a proper CPU capabilities, - you should look at
P series. 
S series is somewhat larger/heavier, but still very reasonable.
(they also have "desktop-alternative" versions, - but I don't know
much about those)

You might find discussions about Fujitsu models on leog.net forums useful.

AS for P series, - I've had my P5020D for over 6 years now, and I love
it. 10.8", ~3.6 lbs.
P7K series was also good. Some people like P8K family less, but I think
it's a matter of preference. There are two new models P8210 and
something else that haven't reached US market yet. I am waiting for
them to upgrade my P5K.
There is a claim that until P8120 all P-series laptops were produced
by Fujitsu itself (as opposed to OEM, as it is done by many laptop
manufacturers these days, - especially in case of cheap netbooks).
P8210 is expected to be the first OEM-produced, but again, the claim is 
that Fujitsu has very tight control over the OEM.
(Well, Fujitsu is itself an OEM, - so it sounds weird, - but that's
the common usage when OEM is used as "non-brand-name company".)

HTH,

Igor


Wed Feb 3 20:11:07 CST 2010
Mark Roberts wrote:

Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays?
Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any
high quality displays under 17" and I'd prefer something smaller than
that if possible.

My current laptop just died. It's a total "nothing lights up" failure,
so I have a sneaking suspicion that it's something very basic and not
a prohibitively expensive fix. But if fate does bless me with an
expensive repair that justifies ditching it and buying a new computer,
I'd like to be prepared...


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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Jack Davis]

When your cousin goes out of business (with your help) you won't be able to 
refuse her, the children and dog from moving in with you.
Think about it.

Jack

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 8:12 AM
> On 2/4/2010 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan
> wrote:
> > Bill,
> >
> > You got me on the milk example.  I wouldn't pay
> them extra and would
> > stop shopping with them.  Does this mean I will
> stop shopping at B&H
> > because somebody complained?  Not until I see
> higher prices or
> > experience bad service.
> >
> > On the Pareto rule (80/20), McD's gets 76% or their
> business from 26%
> > of the population who visit the stores once per week
> or more often.
> > Keeping these people happy and coming back is really
> important.  The
> > rest - not so much.
> >
> > Vegans?  Not a very big part of the customer
> base.  Vegetarian food?
> > Not enough interest for McD's to offer it.  74%
> of the population
> > doesn't visit McD's in a week and your not interested
> in them?  You're
> > damned right!  (Nobody says this but if I was
> running the railroad...)
> >   The product and services offered do
> not appeal strongly to these
> > folks or fit into their lifestyles.  And offering
> products and
> > services that do is too damned expensive.  (I'm a
> dirty capitalist
> > stockholder now and insist McD's make a profit on it's
> enterprise.)
> >
> > You can't be all things to all people.  Focus,
> focus, focus on the
> > part of the customer population that you can serve
> profitably.
> >
> > (And I can see that I'll have to teach you about
> profit in a fast food
> > restaurant.  The meat sandwiches have the lowest
> profit margins and
> > the highest cost.  For drinks, the cup probably
> costs as much as the
> > liquid inside of it.  Great margins on
> drinks!  I enjoy going to
> > Burger King and buying a 99 cent double cheeseburger -
> just the
> > sandwich, no drink or fries.  It's my guerilla
> effort to help them go
> > out of business!)
> >
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >    
> 
> That's what I do at McD's.  Not necessary to make them
> go out of 
> business, but then my Cousin owns, (last I knew), 8 Burger
> Kings, (or 
> rather the bank owns >50% of those stores, she runs them
> and takes a 
> share of the profits), and I'd rather buy a loss leader
> from the 
> competition, (plus McD's double cheese tastes more like a
> cheeseburger 
> is /supposed/ to taste).
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:48 AM, William Robb 
> wrote:
> >    
> >> - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan"
> >> Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't
> believe you want to
> >> keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who
> cause you all those
> >> problems.
> >>
> >>
> >> First, the number of "problem customers" is
> nowhere near that high, i would
> >> say less than 1/10 of 1%, and no, you encourage
> them to shop elsewhere. If
> >> you have a good business model, customers who want
> to cause problems don't
> >> get to do so.
> >> If you refuse to serve 10% of the people who walk
> in your door, you will
> >> very quickly find yourself in a position where no
> one comes in any longer.
> >>
> >> I mean really Bob, you retailed hamburgers for at
> least some your working
> >> career, did you see 10% of your customers as
> undesirable? Did wanting to
> >> look after their health and refusing the high
> profit "Supersize" option
> >> cause you to want to kick their sorry asses out
> the door for having anti
> >> corporate thoughts?
> >>
> >> Did you refuse to serve the people who just
> stopped in for a coffee because
> >> they were a low profit maker for you?
> >> What if they didn't want an order of fries with
> the Filet O Fish? Kick them
> >> out because they stole your profit margin on the
> meal?
> >> Lets get real here for just a moment. You serve
> who comes in your door. It's
> >> what you take on when you open a store, whether
> you are flogging hamburgers
> >> ar cameras.
> >> And when a customer brings a mis marked item to
> the till, you sell it to him
> >> for the price it is marked at, you don't villify
> him because you fucked up.
> >>
> >> I asked Paul this, though it went unanswered, I
> suspect because it would
> >> have gone against the cheerleading he was doing
> for Robin Hood Photo, so
> >> I'll ask you as well.
> >>
> >> You take a quart of milk up to the cash register
> and are told that the price
> >> marked is actually per pint even though it clearly
> indicates per quart on
> >> the price tag.
> >> Do you happily pay double?
> >> And
> >> Do you think that the store has a right to brand
> you as a "problem" if you
> >> object?
> >>
> >> I am interested to read your thoughts on this.
> >>
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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Henry Posner]

> Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to.

I am happy to report that with the assistance of my remaining fingers and toes, 
the calculator Microsoft was wise enough to include with Windows, a large chalk 
board, and the nurses who wipe the drool from my chin, I can periodically 
manage simple arithmetic functions despite my compromised short-term memory. I 
am grateful for your altruistic concern. :-)



I think that's not the point. A customer who does not have a long history with 
any individual vendor is not "less desirable" simply by virtue of his or her 
frequency of shopping. The less desirable customer is one who by various ways 
makes EVERY transaction supremely difficult, painfully time-consuming and 
ultimately so remarkably unprofitable the retailer would be better off had the 
customer never initiated a relationship in the first place.

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 B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio
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Re: Message from Henry Posner

[P N Stenquist]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Henry,
Don't bother Bill, we like him that way.
Regards,  Bob S.


There are times when a display of maturity and civility would be nice.
Paul



On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Henry Posner   
wrote:

I, as is to be expectred, stayed in charachter as the PDML's
resident venal and invective spewing troll.
We all have our part to play, after all.


It is possible to rise up, resist temptation, and overcome one's  
more base instincts in the constant struggle to progress from  
oxygen-using biped to genuine human being and constructive member  
of society.


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[Thomas Cakalic]

Certainly that could be the case.  I think the proposed 10% was
extremely high.  Someone suggested 1/10 of 1%.

But how would that be accomplished with an online store? Flag their
name, credit card, address, e-mail... Disable their online account?
All of which can be gotten around?

Do you maintain a 'DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH... LIST'?  Is J.C.
O'Conell's name on it. ;-)

Tom C.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Henry Posner  wrote:
>> I was thinking that quoting from the Harvard Business School
>> as a means of defending one's shaky business practices might
>> not be wise in light of the present economic climate and what
>> brought us to it, and I was going to refrain, but then, what
>> the Hell. We are being all touchy feely, and how often do I
>> get to agree with Peter.
>
> Fine. Let's say I didn't read it in the HBR. Let's say it was on the back of 
> a Rice Chex box. The concept remains as provocative. Criticizing the source 
> (HBR) and ignoring the concept is a typical Straw Man argument, I believe, 
> and obscures the real issue which is -- are there customers too expensive or 
> too troublesome for a company to keep and does a company benefit from 
> purposely dropping unprofitable and difficult customers?
>
>  -- -
>
>  regards,
>  Henry Posner
>  Director of Corporate Communications
>  B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio
>  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
>
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RE: Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[Henry Posner]

> From: "P. J. Alling"
> > IIRC there was a spate of news not /that/ long ago about tablet
> > computers.

On May 30, 2007, the NYTimes ran an article titled, "Touch Screen in a Table Is 
the Latest Wrinkle in Computers," about the Microsoft "Surface."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/technology/30soft.html
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

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Re: Message from Henry Posner

[Henry Posner]

> There are times when a display of maturity and civility would be nice.
> Paul

+1

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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[P. J. Alling]

Yea, I buy the item at McD's that they loose a nickel on with every 
sale, but make it up on volume; rather than buying it from one of my 
cousins stores, so she can loose that nickel.  Her daughter by the way 
is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, I'm trying to figure out how I can 
move in with her in my old age.


On 2/4/2010 11:16 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

When your cousin goes out of business (with your help) you won't be able to 
refuse her, the children and dog from moving in with you.
Think about it.

Jack

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

   

From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 8:12 AM
On 2/4/2010 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan
wrote:
 

Bill,

You got me on the milk example.  I wouldn't pay
   

them extra and would
 

stop shopping with them.  Does this mean I will
   

stop shopping at B&H
 

because somebody complained?  Not until I see
   

higher prices or
 

experience bad service.

On the Pareto rule (80/20), McD's gets 76% or their
   

business from 26%
 

of the population who visit the stores once per week
   

or more often.
 

Keeping these people happy and coming back is really
   

important.  The
 

rest - not so much.

Vegans?  Not a very big part of the customer
   

base.  Vegetarian food?
 

Not enough interest for McD's to offer it.  74%
   

of the population
 

doesn't visit McD's in a week and your not interested
   

in them?  You're
 

damned right!  (Nobody says this but if I was
   

running the railroad...)
 

The product and services offered do
   

not appeal strongly to these
 

folks or fit into their lifestyles.  And offering
   

products and
 

services that do is too damned expensive.  (I'm a
   

dirty capitalist
 

stockholder now and insist McD's make a profit on it's
   

enterprise.)
 

You can't be all things to all people.  Focus,
   

focus, focus on the
 

part of the customer population that you can serve
   

profitably.
 

(And I can see that I'll have to teach you about
   

profit in a fast food
 

restaurant.  The meat sandwiches have the lowest
   

profit margins and
 

the highest cost.  For drinks, the cup probably
   

costs as much as the
 

liquid inside of it.  Great margins on
   

drinks!  I enjoy going to
 

Burger King and buying a 99 cent double cheeseburger -
   

just the
 

sandwich, no drink or fries.  It's my guerilla
   

effort to help them go
 

out of business!)

Regards,  Bob S.

   

That's what I do at McD's.  Not necessary to make them
go out of
business, but then my Cousin owns, (last I knew), 8 Burger
Kings, (or
rather the bank owns>50% of those stores, she runs them
and takes a
share of the profits), and I'd rather buy a loss leader
from the
competition, (plus McD's double cheese tastes more like a
cheeseburger
is /supposed/ to taste).

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:48 AM, William Robb
   

wrote:
 


   

- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists




Bill R, after your retail experiences, I can't
 

believe you want to
 

keep that last 10% of the asshole customers who
 

cause you all those
 

problems.


First, the number of "problem customers" is
 

nowhere near that high, i would
 

say less than 1/10 of 1%, and no, you encourage
 

them to shop elsewhere. If
 

you have a good business model, customers who want
 

to cause problems don't
 

get to do so.
If you refuse to serve 10% of the people who walk
 

in your door, you will
 

very quickly find yourself in a position where no
 

one comes in any longer.
 

I mean really Bob, you retailed hamburgers for at
 

least some your working
 

career, did you see 10% of your customers as
 

undesirable? Did wanting to
 

look after their health and refusing the high
 

profit "Supersize" option
 

cause you to want to kick their sorry asses out
 

the door for having anti
 

corporate thoughts?

Did you refuse to serve the people who just
 

stopped in for a coffee because
 

they were a low profit maker for you?
What if they didn't want an order of fries with
 

the Filet O Fish? Kick them
 

out because they stole your profit margin on the
 

meal?
 

Lets get real here for just a moment. You serve
 

who comes in your door. It's
 

what you take on when you open a store, whether
 

you are flogging hamburgers
 

ar cameras.
And when a customer brings a mis marked item to
 

the till, you sell it to him
 

for the price it is marked at, you don't villify
 

him because you fucked up.
 

I asked Paul this, though it went unanswered

Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Thomas Cakalic]

You haven't moved in yet?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Yea, I buy the item at McD's that they loose a nickel on with every sale,
> but make it up on volume; rather than buying it from one of my cousins
> stores, so she can loose that nickel.  Her daughter by the way is a lawyer,
> married to a lawyer, I'm trying to figure out how I can move in with her in
> my old age.
>

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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[P. J. Alling]

One I'm not quite that old, and two, her husband's a lawyer...

On 2/4/2010 11:49 AM, Thomas Cakalic wrote:

You haven't moved in yet?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:
   

Yea, I buy the item at McD's that they loose a nickel on with every sale,
but make it up on volume; rather than buying it from one of my cousins
stores, so she can loose that nickel.  Her daughter by the way is a lawyer,
married to a lawyer, I'm trying to figure out how I can move in with her in
my old age.

 
   



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Question for Mac experts

[Mark Roberts]

Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my 
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Re: Question for Mac experts

[Martin Trautmann]

> Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my 
> office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just 
> before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front 
> panel power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions?

Which Mac, which Mac OS?
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Re: Surgery tomorrow!

[Miserere]

Mark,

Girls can be guys too, so don't get all PC on us!

Give Lisa my best wishes; she's in great hands, seeing as you can't
swing a dead cat around these parts without hitting a talented
surgeon. Not that I would recommend doing that, seeing as you can't
swing a dead cat without hitting a PETA supporter either.

As for you, my friend, please receive my hugest condolences. I have a
wonderful wife...who is the crappiest patient. But that's between you,
me, and the rest of the internet, so don't tell anyone! Least of all
her  :-o

I trust you will be with Lisa during the operation and will start
snapping pics the moment she goes under the anaesthesia and lets go of
your hand. A "GESO Lisa's operation" is what the PDML wants.

Take care, the both of you,


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On 3 February 2010 20:19, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Not for me, but for Dr. Lisa and her broken wrist.
>
> When she came home yesterday even *I* could tell that it was going to
> need to be pinned back together. Quite ugly looking.
>
> Fortunately, since Lisa's specialty is bone tumors, she knows the
> orthopedic surgeons pretty well - not that she'll be seen by any of
> the ones at Children's Hospital! But they know who the best guys in
> rest of the Harvard Medical System are. Um, best guys and women - I
> think the surgeon who's doing Lisa's wrist is a woman.
>
> Big fun...
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Re: PDML Book update: One month in...

[Miserere]

What's the internet equivalent of dragging one's heels? Cos that's
what I've been doing.

I still have the rest of this month to submit, right? I'll do it
tomorrow. Or maybe on Saturday. No, that's my wife's birthday. OK
then, on Sunday. No, wait, it's the Superbowl. Definitely on Monday
then. After those meetings. And before The Big Bang Theory in the
evening. If not, surely on Tuesday. I promise.

We thank you for your patience.


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On 30 January 2010 21:53, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> ...and one month to go.
>
> We've received some stellar work so far. But there's plenty of room
> left. Come on, you know you've taken at least one good photo in the
> past year!
>
> Give us your best shot, so to speak:
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
>
> Oh yes... we *have* received at least one cormorant photo so far.

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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Jack Davis]

Burn your tongue on a too hot cup of McD's gourmet coffee. Hire her daughter 
and grandson as a team to sue McD. They will, also, earn a healthy fee and 
you're all set for life.

No..no, that's OK. I'm glad to help.

Jack

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 8:42 AM
> Yea, I buy the item at McD's that
> they loose a nickel on with every 
> sale, but make it up on volume; rather than buying it from
> one of my 
> cousins stores, so she can loose that nickel.  Her
> daughter by the way 
> is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, I'm trying to figure out
> how I can 
> move in with her in my old age.
> 
> On 2/4/2010 11:16 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> > When your cousin goes out of business (with your help)
> you won't be able to refuse her, the children and dog from
> moving in with you.
> > Think about it.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- On Thu, 2/4/10, P. J. Alling 
> wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> From: P. J. Alling
> >> Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> >> Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 8:12 AM
> >> On 2/4/2010 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan
> >> wrote:
> >>      
> >>> Bill,
> >>>
> >>> You got me on the milk example.  I
> wouldn't pay
> >>>        
> >> them extra and would
> >>      
> >>> stop shopping with them.  Does this mean
> I will
> >>>        
> >> stop shopping at B&H
> >>      
> >>> because somebody complained?  Not until I
> see
> >>>        
> >> higher prices or
> >>      
> >>> experience bad service.
> >>>
> >>> On the Pareto rule (80/20), McD's gets 76% or
> their
> >>>        
> >> business from 26%
> >>      
> >>> of the population who visit the stores once
> per week
> >>>        
> >> or more often.
> >>      
> >>> Keeping these people happy and coming back is
> really
> >>>        
> >> important.  The
> >>      
> >>> rest - not so much.
> >>>
> >>> Vegans?  Not a very big part of the
> customer
> >>>        
> >> base.  Vegetarian food?
> >>      
> >>> Not enough interest for McD's to offer
> it.  74%
> >>>        
> >> of the population
> >>      
> >>> doesn't visit McD's in a week and your not
> interested
> >>>        
> >> in them?  You're
> >>      
> >>> damned right!  (Nobody says this but if I
> was
> >>>        
> >> running the railroad...)
> >>      
> >>>     The product and
> services offered do
> >>>        
> >> not appeal strongly to these
> >>      
> >>> folks or fit into their lifestyles.  And
> offering
> >>>        
> >> products and
> >>      
> >>> services that do is too damned
> expensive.  (I'm a
> >>>        
> >> dirty capitalist
> >>      
> >>> stockholder now and insist McD's make a profit
> on it's
> >>>        
> >> enterprise.)
> >>      
> >>> You can't be all things to all people. 
> Focus,
> >>>        
> >> focus, focus on the
> >>      
> >>> part of the customer population that you can
> serve
> >>>        
> >> profitably.
> >>      
> >>> (And I can see that I'll have to teach you
> about
> >>>        
> >> profit in a fast food
> >>      
> >>> restaurant.  The meat sandwiches have the
> lowest
> >>>        
> >> profit margins and
> >>      
> >>> the highest cost.  For drinks, the cup
> probably
> >>>        
> >> costs as much as the
> >>      
> >>> liquid inside of it.  Great margins on
> >>>        
> >> drinks!  I enjoy going to
> >>      
> >>> Burger King and buying a 99 cent double
> cheeseburger -
> >>>        
> >> just the
> >>      
> >>> sandwich, no drink or fries.  It's my
> guerilla
> >>>        
> >> effort to help them go
> >>      
> >>> out of business!)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> That's what I do at McD's.  Not necessary to
> make them
> >> go out of
> >> business, but then my Cousin owns, (last I knew),
> 8 Burger
> >> Kings, (or
> >> rather the bank owns>50% of those stores, she
> runs them
> >> and takes a
> >> share of the profits), and I'd rather buy a loss
> leader
> >> from the
> >> competition, (plus McD's double cheese tastes more
> like a
> >> cheeseburger
> >> is /supposed/ to taste).
> >>
> >>      
> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:48 AM, William
> Robb
> >>>        
> >> wrote:
> >>      
> >>>
> >>>        
>  - Original Message - From: "Bob
> Sullivan"
>  Subject: Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Bill R, after your retail experiences, I
> can't
>           
> >> believe you want to
> >>      
>  keep that last 10% of the asshole
> customers who
>           
> >> cause you all those
> >>      
>  problems.
> 
> 
>  First, the number of "problem customers"
> is
>           
> >> nowhere near that high, i would
> >>      
>  say less than 1/10 of 1%, and no, you
> encourage
>           
> >> them to shop elsewhere. If
> >>      
>  you have a good business model, customers
> who want
>           
> >> to cause problems don't
> >>     

Re: Question for Mac experts

[Rick Womer]

That is not normal behavior.  Macs wake up from sleep instantly when they are 
running properly (I re-start mine once a month, whether it needs it or not).

Whenever something is wonky with one of our Macs, my first stop is the Disk 
Utilities program.  Run Verify Disk, Repair Disk (if there are problems), and 
Repair Disk Permissions. I don't know what repairing permissions does, but it 
often straightens things out.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 2/4/10, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> From: Mark Roberts 
> Subject: Question for Mac experts
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 12:19 PM
> Here at the college we have both Mac
> and Windows systems. The Mac in my office won't ever boot
> for me on the first try. It always locks up just before the
> Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front
> panel power switch. Second try always works. Any
> suggestions?
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Re: Question for Mac experts

[David J Brooks]

Do the second try first.??

Dave

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my
> office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just
> before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel
> power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions?
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Re: SDM repair complete

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Carlos R  wrote:
>
>
> John Celio escribió:
>>
>> Hopefully the technician didn't shoehorn a Sigma motor in there somehow.
>> ;)
>>
>
> Sigma uses ring motors in their HSM lenses. They are better than than the
> micro motors Pentax use in SDM lenses, I'm afraid.
>
> Carlos
>

Is Pentax using Micromotors in all SDM lenses? Or just the dual-drive
DA*'s and the 17-70.

Note that ring-motors aren't inherently better, they're potentially
faster and have full-time manual focus built-in, at a major cost in
size. Micro-motors are much smaller.

The only maker to use both types of motors and differentiate between
them is Sony btw, with all SSM lenses being ring-type USM and all SAM
lenses being micro-motor USM. Sigma does micro-motor AF and ring-type
USM, but no micro-motor USM. Nikon doesn't differentiate and Canon
differentiates by the presence of a DoF/focus distance scale (with the
50/1.4 USM being a special case), Tokina and Tamron just don't do USM
at all.

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Re: rough night

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> You must be using a Mac, the .trashes file is where the Mac OS puts deleted
> files on a memory card.  Spotlight-V100 is part of the indexing system., and
> no I didn't know this before.  I'm a DOS/NTSF Wienie, Google can be your
> friend...

That's MR GOGGLE pal.

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Re: rough night

[Larry Colen]

Bruce, yes Ted's computer is a Mac.  For that matter, I do my  
processing on one too, though I usually initially copy files off my  
cards onto my Linux box, then transfer them to the mac.


On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  
 wrote:

It's an omen...


See the D700 on the self there.


The equivalent of the K100 would be the K-x, which might actually be  
smaller and lighter.
However, until I get a job, I'd be much wiser to either clean, or  
possibly repair, the K100.


Does anyone have any suggestions for what to clean it with? Or have an  
idea what it would cost to repair it?




Dave


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Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:31:58 AM, you wrote:

LC> A friend asked me to photograph a dance class he was teaching  
tonight.


LC> The view through  my K100 was horrible, when I got home I tried  
to
LC> clean the viewfinder but it seems to have some sort of nasty  
film on
LC> the back glass of the eyepiece.  Either that, or something was  
eating

LC> at some anti reflective coating (is there one?) on it.

LC> I tried cleaning it with lens cleaning solution, but that did  
no good
LC> whatsoever.  This, mind you, is not the camera that is missing  
the

LC> rubber eyecup.
LC> I haven't tried cleaning it with serious solvents, like  
berryman's B12

LC> chemtool.  I suspect that would cause more harm than good.

LC> After class, Ted was copying my raw files off my SD card and  
something

LC> went wrong with the transfer of the files from the K20.

LC> Some weird files showed up on it:
LC> ls: USBC\033␀␀␀.␀€␀: File name too long
LC> total 384
LC> -rwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff   4096 Feb  3 22:44 ._.Trashes
LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  3 22:44 .Spotlight-V100
LC> drwxrwxrwx@ 1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:17 .Trashes
LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  65536 Feb  4 01:17 .
LC> drwxrwxrwx  1 lrc   staff  32768 Feb  4 01:18 .fseventsd
LC> drwxrwxrwt@ 8 root  admin272 Feb  4 01:20 ..

LC> Fortunately a bit of research found a program called photorec  
which

LC> seems to be recovering the data.

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Re: Question for Mac experts

[P. J. Alling]

That makes a certain kind of sense, sort of like I found my keys in the 
last place I looked for them.


On 2/4/2010 1:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Do the second try first.??

Dave

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
   

Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my
office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just
before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel
power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions?

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Re: rough night

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/4/2010 1:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:
   

You must be using a Mac, the .trashes file is where the Mac OS puts deleted
files on a memory card.  Spotlight-V100 is part of the indexing system., and
no I didn't know this before.  I'm a DOS/NTSF Wienie, Google can be your
friend...
 

That's MR GOGGLE pal.
   


NOW, your spell checker decides to /work/?


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Re: Surgery tomorrow!

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>Best of luck! I've had 8 operations under GA, 6 of them in the last 14
>years, and it's always rather nerve-wracking before you go in. Last time I
>was being wheeled in it occurred to me that the anaesthetist looked and
>sounded like Dr. Mengele, and the surgeon looked and sounded like Idi Amin.
>Not the happiest of thoughts as you start to feel the drugs swooshing
>around...

Fascinating. Fortunately, there was no general anesthesia for Lisa:
Block anesthetic plus a sedative did the trick. She's back home and
doing splendidly with 8 screws and a plate in her arm. Airport metal
detectors with her are really gonna be fun... 

She's really delighted with the post-op x-rays. Perhaps I'll post them
and we might at least get back to the topic of photography.


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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:41:47AM -0500, paul stenquist wrote:
> 
> Exactly. I can't recall the last time that either my macbook or my imac 
> crashed. I suppose others might find fault with them, but instability 
> wouldn't be among them.

PCs are pretty good, too, nowadays.  My notebook was at around 7 weeks
of uptime when I rebooted it to pick up the latest security update.


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Re: Scott Bourne, Q&A With Scott Bourne About the iPad

[P N Stenquist]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:35 PM, John Francis wrote:


On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:41:47AM -0500, paul stenquist wrote:


Exactly. I can't recall the last time that either my macbook or my  
imac crashed. I suppose others might find fault with them, but  
instability wouldn't be among them.


PCs are pretty good, too, nowadays.  My notebook was at around 7 weeks
of uptime when I rebooted it to pick up the latest security update.


Yep. The PCs in the our house are quite stable as well. One runs  
Vista, one is XP, and one is Windows 7. With three of my grown kids  
living here, we now have three PCs and three Macs in the house. I use  
them all from time to time, but two of the Macs are mine and I work  
only on those computers.

Paul

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Re: PDML Book update: One month in...

[Mark Roberts]

Miserere wrote:

>What's the internet equivalent of dragging one's heels? Cos that's
>what I've been doing.
>
>I still have the rest of this month to submit, right? I'll do it
>tomorrow. Or maybe on Saturday. No, that's my wife's birthday. OK
>then, on Sunday. No, wait, it's the Superbowl. Definitely on Monday
>then. After those meetings. And before The Big Bang Theory in the
>evening. If not, surely on Tuesday. I promise.
>
>We thank you for your patience.

Yep, you have until the 28th of this month.

We'd love to get photographs from all the rest of you PDML'ers, too. 


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Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge

[Ken Waller]

Very well done. 


A crafted image.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Brewer" 

Subject: Re: PESO - Morning in Brugge



Rick Womer wrote:

An early May morning in Brugge, Belgium.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10621710&size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 200, f/6.7 @ 1/350)

Rick


that's really very good, Rick.



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GESO: Surf-n-Turf

[David Mann]

Another sporting event for your viewing pleasure.  This is the Surf n Turf 
which consists of a lap around a swim course in the harbour followed by a 
couple of laps of a short running circuit on the hill.  There's also an 
"aquathon" event which is just three laps around the swim course.



My biggest challenge here was people wearing black wetsuits with very strong 
backlighting...

I'm going to redo the gallery section of the site soon so the photos can be 
presented a bit larger.  This is something that's been frustrating me for quite 
a while...

Cheers,
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Re: PDML Book update: One month in...

[Bran Everseeking]

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:00:57 -0500
Mark Roberts  wrote:

> We'd love to get photographs from all the rest of you PDML'ers, too. 

maybe I might be able to find something that will not make the whole
book smell of skunk, maybe.

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Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Jim King]

AlunFoto wrote on Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:45:02 -0800:


Mark,

I researched this extensively a year ago before buying a laptop
myself. My conclusion then was that no laptops with smaller than 17"
screen has any of the higher quality panel types. That also included
the offerings from Apple.
(snip)
Anyway, things may have changed in the past year. From experience I  
strongly recommend you find one with LED backlighting whatever you  
do. LED has more even illumination towards the corners, does not  
require warm-up before colour rendition is stable, and consumes less  
power than do CCFL. However if you find you have to go with a CCFL  
based screen because of other model specifications, make sure you  
find one with at least two tubes to get decent brightness. The  
recent Lenovos like W400 for example, have rather weak illumination.
Mark (and Jostein), things HAVE changed in the MacBook Pro lineup.   
All of the current offerings use an IPS screen with LED backlighting.   
I got a 15 incher at Chrstmas as a present for myself, and it's  
gorgeous!  You can get either a glossy screen or a matte screen ($50  
upcharge) as you prefer.


Do yourself a favor and take a look at the Mac Book Pro before you  
decide what to buy.


Regards, Jim

“Worry never robs tomorrow of its sorrow, it only saps today of its  
joy.”

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Re: Question for Mac experts

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

Subject: Re: Question for Mac experts



Do the second try first.??


Use the Windows system ?



Dave

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts  
wrote:

Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my
office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just
before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel
power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions?



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Re: Message from Henry Posner

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Henry Posner"

Subject: RE: Message from Henry Posner





It is possible to rise up, resist temptation, and overcome one's more base 
instincts in the constant struggle to progress from oxygen-using biped to 
genuine human being and constructive member of society.




It's also possible to be an honest retailer and take the high road when 
honouring the prices that you advertise on your website.

I'll do my part when you do yours.

Regards

William Robb 



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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Henry Posner"

Subject: RE: Message from Henry Posner, Part I





Fine. Let's say I didn't read it in the HBR. Let's say it was on the back 
of a Rice Chex box. The concept remains as provocative. Criticizing the 
source (HBR) and ignoring the concept is a typical Straw Man argument, I 
believe, and obscures the real issue which is -- are there customers too 
expensive or too troublesome for a company to keep and does a company 
benefit from purposely dropping unprofitable and difficult customers?


I suspect a lot of your wisdom comes from the back of a Rice Chex box.
However, in this case you have, apparently, decided to drop a customer for 
being too much trouble after lying to him about your pricing on your 
website.
Deflecting the issue to try to justify your actions is certainly not morally 
superior to someone dismissing a concept because the source of that concept 
has proven itself to be wrong with regards to the concept.


William Robb 



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Re: Message from Henry Posner

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Henry Posner"

Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner



There are times when a display of maturity and civility would be nice.
Paul


+1

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regards,
Henry Posner
Director of Corporate Communications
B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/


Henry, keep pushing and I'll forward these emails of yours to your boss. You 
are acting as an official representative of your company.

This means you don't get to insult people.
Or perhaps it does, given the business practice that started this thread.

William Robb 



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Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 7:17, Tanya Love wrote:

> Cool!  The lack of viruses is certainly appealing too.  I am thinking that I
> would go for the 15" MacBook Pro, it's just that I haven't used a Mac since
> highschool and although I know the user interface is so easy to work with, I
> worry that I am not going to have the time to retrain myself on it, iykwim?

Takes a couple weeks to settle in.  If you've used a Mac before it may be even 
less.  That was pretty much my "figure it out" period when I made the jump 4 
years ago.

> The other thing that sucks with them is that they are near impossible to
> upgrade...
> 

Bigger harddrive, more RAM are much much easier to accomplish now than in the 
past.  At least - my white plastic Macbook makes it easier than any other 
laptop I've ever used before.

 -Charles

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A couple of questions

[John Sessoms]

What is a reasonable price for a used K20D kit w/18-55 lens?

Figure condition is = KEH EX.

Is there a SIMPLE, easy way to find out the total cumulative shutter 
activations?


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Re: Surf-n-Turf

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dan:  Looks like a fun event--I like the picture of the guy with the X on 
his chest--& he looks a lot like Cotty, don't you think?  I like the picture 
of the sailboat and swimmers as well.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "David Mann" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:55 PM
Subject: GESO: Surf-n-Turf


Another sporting event for your viewing pleasure.  This is the Surf n Turf 
which consists of a lap around a swim course in the harbour followed by a 
couple of laps of a short running circuit on the hill.  There's also an 
"aquathon" event which is just three laps around the swim course.




My biggest challenge here was people wearing black wetsuits with very 
strong backlighting...


I'm going to redo the gallery section of the site soon so the photos can 
be presented a bit larger.  This is something that's been frustrating me 
for quite a while...


Cheers,
Dave
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Re: Myopic Bulls**t Artists

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-02-04 9:20, John Mullan wrote:

In 2006 they
shot themselves in the other foot by eliminating those who were earning
above a certain figure and then offered to rehire them at a lower wage.


The 2006 shot was the one I was thinking of.  My (aging) memory is 
obviously failing. :-)


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Re: Message from Henry Posner

[P N Stenquist]

On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:15 PM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Henry Posner"
Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner


There are times when a display of maturity and civility would be  
nice.

Paul


+1

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Henry Posner
Director of Corporate Communications
B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/


Henry, keep pushing and I'll forward these emails of yours to your  
boss. You are acting as an official representative of your company.

This means you don't get to insult people.
Or perhaps it does, given the business practice that started this  
thread.


William Robb



That was from me not Henry. You've really taken this in the toilet,  
Bill.  Henry just came here to explain his company's position. Your  
personal attacks are, as usual, way out of line.

Paul



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RE: Magnum booty moves house

[Bob W]

> >   
> >> This seems rather sad but beautiful at the same time. Magnum press 
> >> prints are sold to Michael Dell, but they will be available for 
> >> scholarly study for
> >> 5 years. Maybe, surely, some gems will be unearthed when they go 
> >> through the collection
> >>
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/arts/design/02magnum.html?em
> >>
> >> Are the negatives still in Magnum's office? Shouldn't they be in a 
> >> temperature controlled archive as well?
> >> 
> >
> > Interesting story.  Kind of sad in a way, but maybe not so sad if 
> > these are more accessible to the public and/or scholars.
> >
> > cheers,
> > frank
> >
> >   
> 
> NYT has a slideshow sample of the prints.
> 
> http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/archive-11/
> 
> Boy, what long legs Edie Sedgwick had

Indeedie...

She must be what they mean by Magnum booty.

Bob


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Re: A couple of questions

[P. J. Alling]

I got my K20D for $640.00 from B&H, (Oh Nos), so I would assume that you 
should be paying less.  On the other hand IIRC when I bought the K20D, 
KEH had one used in stock LN for about $620 which didn't seem like such 
a good deal at the time.  Now I think the actual number of shutter 
actuactions as opposed to the frame number is embeded somewhere in the 
EXIF data, (in the makers notes maybe), and if I also remember correctly 
someone wrote a utility to extract all of that data.  But I wasn't all 
that interested at the time.



On 2/4/2010 4:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

What is a reasonable price for a used K20D kit w/18-55 lens?

Figure condition is = KEH EX.

Is there a SIMPLE, easy way to find out the total cumulative shutter 
activations?





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