Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 5:04 PM, David Savage wrote:

> at the moment I'd rather bitch about having to leave the air
> conditioned comfort of the office to go measure up a clients piece of
> equipment on a very humid 40 degree day...

At least your office is air conditioned :(

This week's been hot enough to make it difficult to concentrate.  Yesterday I 
was about ready to go home by mid-morning.

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Re: best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 6:49 PM, John Francis wrote:

> It's not that hard nowadays, if you're prepared to dig deep into your wallet.

Mark!

Sounds like a pretty universal statement to me.

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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan" 
Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame



Are there people who live up there?
Ok 54th state, the flag would look better with 54 stars.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/canadas-bitch.jpg

William Robb

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Re: PESO - Furness Library

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734954

Looks like a nice building... I'd be curious to see a shot looking up from 
below as well.

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Re: OT: Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 2:12 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> Then and there and ever since, that's become ~my~ name for a band:
> "Trucks to Warsaw".  Now I just have to learn to play an instrument
> and/or sing and/or write songs...

Why let that stop you?  It certainly doesn't seem to trouble many modern acts.

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Thanks!!

[Christine Aguila]

Big thanks to everyone for the b-day wishes on and off list.  Had a great 
day, and it was fun to pop-in on-list today!



Flash
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/50walk/

HTML
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/50walk2/

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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I installed Photoshop CS4 the other day. I don't use any plugins, I
just saved out my CS2 actions, did the install, and reloaded my
actions, then installed the latest Camera Raw. Done, no drama at all.
Works fine (although CS4 has some known color management glitches).
Much faster loading and a little faster operation even though I'm on
the same old same old Mac G5. Even works better on my more ancient
PowerBook G4.

Regards the Epson 2450 ...

Mac OS X's Image capture recognizes and drives it just fine if I want
to use that. I usually use VueScan: does a better job than anything
else I've tried, including Epson software. I only installed the Epson
software once upon a time to test it, have never touched it since.
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Re: best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I had both the DA14 and the DA10-17.

The DA14 is excellent for this work. It's a very fine lens, best
performance at f/4.5-5.6, with very little rectilinear distortion. And
it focuses very close.

The 10-17FE is fun. Never could figure out what exactly to do with it,
but always got interesting results that worked well.

Godfrey

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Tanya Love  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I’d love to hear your suggestions for the best wide angle lens I can get my 
> hands on to shoot interiors.  I need it to be as fast as possible, and if it 
> is a zoom, I need constant aperture through-out.  Many of the interiors 
> (babies nurseries) that I am shooting are required to be shot using only 
> available light, so this is why the faster, the better.  And, able to give 
> the best resolution as possible.
>
> I will be using it on the K-7.  It doesn’t have to be a Pentax lens, I just 
> want good glass, good price and as wide as possible.  Wide angle zooms are 
> ok, although I know that it is rare to find one as optically good as the 
> prime equivalents.
>
> I also love to shoot babies/kids faces close up with a wide angle 
> perspective, so something that would suit this purpose would be great too.  
> If it had a nice macro function, I wouldn’t complain either!
>
> Also, does anyone have the DA Fishe-Eye 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 and if so, what are 
> your thoughts on it?
>
> TIA!
>
> Tan. ☺
>
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/25/2010 5:55 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:

   

you forgot to add "Canada becomming the 51 st state" !
 

"...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing
grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall
fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."

https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1184/images/chipmunk_armed.jpg

;-)

cheers,
frank
   

Never work, in America we only have the right to arm bears.


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Re: Surf N Turf (#6)

[Christine Aguila]

Hi David:  This is truly a great set, probably my favorite of all your gesos 
of this subject.  I just love #1 & my three favs after that are 3, 5, & 11, 
but all are nice.  I like the color and light alot.  The close ups of the 
athletes are very nice too.  Overall, great work.  You've improved the 
interface too, right?  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: GESO: Surf N Turf (#6)



Yet another swim & run race.

This week the race was held at Scarborough Beach at the eastern edge of 
the city.  We had much better weather but the surf wasn't safe to do the 
full swim course.  So the swim-only events were cancelled and the aquathon 
(swim followed by run) was greatly shortened.




We had an onshore breeze so a bit of haze in the air.  There was a decent 
amount of light for once so the AF worked a lot better, plus I could get 
some decent shutter speeds and stop down a bit.  That was a refreshing 
change from the previous events.


This was going to be the final race in the series but due to the swim 
troubles the organiser has scheduled a swimming-only event for next week. 
Not sure if I'll be there for that one.


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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[Christine Aguila]

Adam:  took a peek at this peso, reallly impressive.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: Boris PESO #13

[Christine Aguila]

That's neat, Boris.  I like it.  I'd like it too without the Maryland plate 
name.  Good catch on the ice formation.  Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:43 PM
Subject: Boris PESO #13



Hi!

So I returned from one more business trip to DC area. This time I had an 
encounter with what I used to call winter 18 years ago.


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-13.html

Be brutal and honest.

P.S. I do apologize for the FF thread that I started.

Boris

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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[Bruce Dayton]

Thursday, February 25, 2010, 5:32:13 PM, you wrote:

RS> On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:

>> Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't 
>> live without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 
>> prints,vertical grip,  and 1000 exposure battery life.

RS> I know I should have added a P.S to my message of enablement such as;
RS> "unless of course you are Paul as he's quite enamoured with the
RS> performance of his K7 in low light" ;-)

RS> I only tell it like it is.

RS> PS and I really am no fan of vertical grips or multi-point AF, they
RS> both interfere with the flow of my shooting.

RS> -- 
RS> Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio)
RS> Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours
RS> Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio

Well, I am a fan of vertical grips.  My use of multiple AF points is
so-so.  I do usually select a single point, but I am not constantly
changing it so I have a pretty good idea where the focus point is.

After reading lots of reviews and seeing many samples, it was clear
to me that the K-x was the choice I needed for the high volume, low
light work I needed to do.  I had been ok with the K20D for some
occasional low light stuff, but nothing like I was facing.  The
reviews clearing point towards the K-x improving on the K7.  I had
yet to justify the move to the K7 over my K20D - in essence, I was
getting along just fine with it.  But this low light job was not
going to cut it.

Now that I have worked with the K-x, I am quite surprised by how well
it works in low light and how capable the body is.  Is it a K7?  Not
by any means - but it is a great body, especially for the price.  It
does a good enough job for what I need right now.  I would be really
stoked to see the K-x sensor in the K7 body.  Until then, I can hold
off on a K7 just using the K20D for most things and the K-x for the
low light.

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Re: PESO - Furness Library

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, that's nice, Rick.  Composition of the reading tables is excellent. 
Light quite lovely too.  I might be tempted to crop a little of the busy 
part at the top, but, heck, minor point.  Overall excellently exposed and 
composed.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

To: "Pentax List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:04 PM
Subject: PESO - Furness Library


The fine old Victorian pile known as the Furness Building houses a very 
handsome library.  Windows open into it from the building's third floor. 
I leaned out through one for this shot; things were too tight to use the 
fisheye, though I may try again sometime.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734954

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/20)

Rick






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Re: best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

[John Francis]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 03:08:43PM +1000, Tanya Love wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I?d love to hear your suggestions for the best wide angle lens I can get my 
> hands on to shoot interiors.  I need it to be as fast as possible, and if it 
> is a zoom, I need constant aperture through-out.  Many of the interiors 
> (babies nurseries) that I am shooting are required to be shot using only 
> available light, so this is why the faster, the better.  And, able to give 
> the best resolution as possible.
> 
> I will be using it on the K-7.  It doesn?t have to be a Pentax lens, I just 
> want good glass, good price and as wide as possible.  Wide angle zooms are 
> ok, although I know that it is rare to find one as optically good as the 
> prime equivalents.

It's not that hard nowadays, if you're prepared to dig deep into your wallet.
I believe Paul Stenquist has the Pentax 12-24, and speaks well of it.  It's
only f4, which is probably the biggest strike against it.

The DA* 16-50 isn't quite as wide, but it is a stop faster.  I have one of
these as my primary lens, and am more than satisfied with it.  It's quite
good fairly close up, too - in fact it's easier to fill the frame with a
subject using the 16-50 than it is with the 50-135, because quite often
the minimum focussing distance of the 50-135 can be the limiting factor.

For non-Pentax glass the Sigma 10-20 seems to gather favourable press.

Apart from the zooms there's also the DA 14mm, another f/2.8 contender.

> I also love to shoot babies/kids faces close up with a wide angle 
> perspective, so something that would suit this purpose would be great too.  
> If it had a nice macro function, I wouldn?t complain either!
> 
> Also, does anyone have the DA Fishe-Eye 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 and if so, what are 
> your thoughts on it?

I wouldn't use a fish-eye as an everyday lens, especially for faces.
But it's a fun toy to have in the arsenal:

http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0810

http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0745


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Hey Stan...

[Tanya Love]

Are you ever going to update your Lens Comments website with the newer
lenses?  I'd love to see some reviews/comments on the different DA options
that are available...

Tan. :)


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best wide angle - for shooting interiors?

[Tanya Love]

Hi everyone,

I’d love to hear your suggestions for the best wide angle lens I can get my 
hands on to shoot interiors.  I need it to be as fast as possible, and if it is 
a zoom, I need constant aperture through-out.  Many of the interiors (babies 
nurseries) that I am shooting are required to be shot using only available 
light, so this is why the faster, the better.  And, able to give the best 
resolution as possible.

I will be using it on the K-7.  It doesn’t have to be a Pentax lens, I just 
want good glass, good price and as wide as possible.  Wide angle zooms are ok, 
although I know that it is rare to find one as optically good as the prime 
equivalents.

I also love to shoot babies/kids faces close up with a wide angle perspective, 
so something that would suit this purpose would be great too.  If it had a nice 
macro function, I wouldn’t complain either!

Also, does anyone have the DA Fishe-Eye 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 and if so, what are 
your thoughts on it?

TIA!

Tan. ☺


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Re: Boris PESO #13

[Ken Waller]

Welcome to my world - zoom, zoom.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" 


Subject: Boris PESO #13



Hi!

So I returned from one more business trip to DC area. This time I had an 
encounter with what I used to call winter 18 years ago.


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-13.html

Be brutal and honest.

P.S. I do apologize for the FF thread that I started.

Boris



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Boris PESO #13

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

So I returned from one more business trip to DC area. This time I had an 
encounter with what I used to call winter 18 years ago.


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-13.html

Be brutal and honest.

P.S. I do apologize for the FF thread that I started.

Boris

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Re: Anyone else ...

[David Savage]

On 26 February 2010 08:26, Christine  Aguila  wrote:
>
> From: "John Sessoms" 
>
>
>> ... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to?
>
>
> The "wild child from Chicago" turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She
> had a lovely walk with her husband this afternoon, a fine dinner afterwards,
> and is hoping to do something wild and crazy with melted chocolate and
> strawberries later.  :-)

Images from 9 1/2 Weeks just popped into my head.

> Seriously though, everything is fine--just really busy, but I have been
> reading posts now and then; I'm in semi-lurking mode!


Happy birthday to ewe.

DS

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Re: Anyone else ...

[Boris Liberman]

Oh! Happy Birthday!

Boris



On 2/26/2010 5:05 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Happy 50th, Dudette!
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From: "John Sessoms"



... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to?



The "wild child from Chicago" turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She
had a lovely walk with her husband this afternoon, a fine dinner afterwards,
and is hoping to do something wild and crazy with melted chocolate and
strawberries later.  :-)


Seriously though, everything is fine--just really busy, but I have been
reading posts now and then; I'm in semi-lurking mode!

Big cheers, Christine






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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:

> TWAIN isn't supported by CS4 on Intel Macs. The plug-in is on the disk but 
> isn't installed in the default install. In my case it didn't work even after 
> I had manually put it in the appropriate folder. Apparently if you run CS4 in 
> Rosetta mode it should work, but as that slows PS down I see no reason to 
> cripple PS just for one old scanner. 
> 
> So, CS4 on Mac = no TWAIN for you.
> 
> Same deal for my LS8000, I have to use Nikon Scan 4 rather than scanning from 
> within PS.
> 
I've been using Vuescan with my Epson 3200 for the few scans I still do. I 
couldn't get the Epson Twain plug in to work with CS4 on the Mac.
Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 26/02/2010, at 1:43 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
>> Shouldn't need a plugin, just a properly TWAIN-compliant Epson App. PS
>> supports any TWAIN-compliant scanner and has for years. It's an awful
>> way to scan though, batch scanning is severely crippled from inside
>> PS. Which is why I batch-scan and monitor the output directory via
>> Bridge.
>> 
>> -Adam
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Paul Ewins  
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There isn't a PS plug-in for my Epson 2450 using CS4, so I'm stuck using 
>>> the Epson software. Mostly it won't recognise the scanner first up and I 
>>> have to restart the scanner and software. I think that is Epson's way of 
>>> telling me to upgrade.
>>> 
>>> On 26/02/2010, at 1:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> 
 paul stenquist wrote:
 
> I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame 
> intentions here:-).
 
 Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still
 won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the
 scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the cheesy software that
 came with the scanner. And the IT guys are stumped on both issues.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> http://www.mawz.ca
>> Explorations of the City Around Us.
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RE: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Tanya Love]

I hear you Dave, it is trying to rain here, and it is so bloody hot, I wish
it would  pour down!

As for Marks original post, where he said the following: "I'm thinking all
along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably could 
have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with less
trouble!", I am wondering, Mark, have you been spying
on me again?!? ;-)

tan. :)


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at the moment I'd rather bitch about having to leave the air conditioned
comfort of the office to go measure up a clients piece of equipment on a
very humid 40 degree day...

On 26/02/2010, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
> But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps 
> and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes 
> that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm working with the CS3 
> interfaces... so, even though it's expensive (even with an academic 
> discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 "Production Premium"
> suite.
>
> I was dreading the install Even before I started. Adobe won't let you 
> "upgrade" apps - you have to install the new software alongside your 
> existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and then uninstall 
> the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if everything 
> *works*. Which it didn't.
>
> Error message that says some component installs failed: a list that 
> includes just about every application in the suite. Multiple tries.
> Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. Many re-boots. Manually 
> uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. A Google search 
> on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. None of 
> the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant suggestion 
> from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna let 
> me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?
>
> Finally, I just let the installation run through to the end, even 
> though it warned me at the beginning that almost none of the aps would 
> be installed. Strangely, it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end 
> about half of the apps do install, even though the error message said 
> they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, After Effects and Encore failed. And 
> I deleted the CS3 versions at the start (and I'm afraid to risk trying 
> to re-install them at this point). Fortunately, my new laptop is
> (barely) powerful to do the limited video editing I need to do at the 
> moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get by.
>
> I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably could 
> have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with less 
> trouble!"
>
> Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems to be stable 
> enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of trouble).
>
> Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit Windows
> 7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With a 
> clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if I 
> install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a dreamer...
>
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[David Savage]

at the moment I'd rather bitch about having to leave the air
conditioned comfort of the office to go measure up a clients piece of
equipment on a very humid 40 degree day...

On 26/02/2010, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
> But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps
> and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes
> that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm working with the CS3
> interfaces... so, even though it's expensive (even with an academic
> discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 "Production Premium"
> suite.
>
> I was dreading the install Even before I started. Adobe won't let you
> "upgrade" apps - you have to install the new software alongside your
> existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and then uninstall
> the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if everything
> *works*. Which it didn't.
>
> Error message that says some component installs failed: a list that
> includes just about every application in the suite. Multiple tries.
> Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. Many re-boots. Manually
> uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. A Google search
> on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. None of
> the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant suggestion
> from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna let
> me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?
>
> Finally, I just let the installation run through to the end, even
> though it warned me at the beginning that almost none of the aps would
> be installed. Strangely, it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end
> about half of the apps do install, even though the error message said
> they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, After Effects and Encore failed. And
> I deleted the CS3 versions at the start (and I'm afraid to risk trying
> to re-install them at this point). Fortunately, my new laptop is
> (barely) powerful to do the limited video editing I need to do at the
> moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get by.
>
> I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably could
> have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with less
> trouble!"
>
> Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems to be stable
> enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of trouble).
>
> Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit Windows
> 7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With a
> clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if I
> install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a dreamer...
>
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Paul Ewins]

TWAIN isn't supported by CS4 on Intel Macs. The plug-in is on the disk but 
isn't installed in the default install. In my case it didn't work even after I 
had manually put it in the appropriate folder. Apparently if you run CS4 in 
Rosetta mode it should work, but as that slows PS down I see no reason to 
cripple PS just for one old scanner. 

So, CS4 on Mac = no TWAIN for you.

Same deal for my LS8000, I have to use Nikon Scan 4 rather than scanning from 
within PS.

Paul




On 26/02/2010, at 1:43 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Shouldn't need a plugin, just a properly TWAIN-compliant Epson App. PS
> supports any TWAIN-compliant scanner and has for years. It's an awful
> way to scan though, batch scanning is severely crippled from inside
> PS. Which is why I batch-scan and monitor the output directory via
> Bridge.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
>> 
>> There isn't a PS plug-in for my Epson 2450 using CS4, so I'm stuck using the 
>> Epson software. Mostly it won't recognise the scanner first up and I have to 
>> restart the scanner and software. I think that is Epson's way of telling me 
>> to upgrade.
>> 
>> On 26/02/2010, at 1:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> paul stenquist wrote:
>>> 
 I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame 
 intentions here:-).
>>> 
>>> Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still
>>> won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the
>>> scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the cheesy software that
>>> came with the scanner. And the IT guys are stumped on both issues.
>> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Furness Library

[paul stenquist]

Excellent shot. Reminds me of the reading room at the New York Public Library.
Paul

On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> The fine old Victorian pile known as the Furness Building houses a very 
> handsome library.  Windows open into it from the building's third floor.  I 
> leaned out through one for this shot; things were too tight to use the 
> fisheye, though I may try again sometime.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734954
> 
> (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/20)
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Brendan MacRae]

- Original Message 
> From: Mark Roberts 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 6:50:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.
> 
> Brendan MacRae wrote:

>CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as 
> you've seen firsthand. 
>I have the entire suite here that absolutely 
> refuses to install on my Mac.
>I tried the Adobe forums first, then tech 
> support (free for installation 
>issues) and spent a good 6-7 hours of my 
> life on the phone and was never 
>able to get the stupid thing to install. 
> It's just a complete joke. None 
>of the clean scripts they have do a damn 
> thing except get the install to 
>a further point before failing. 
> 

You'd think that they would have worked out the issues by now. 
> (And,
yes, I discovered that none of their clean scripts works.)

I 
> have high hopes that a clean install in a freshly-installed OS will
function 
> properly, including Premier Pro, Encore and After Efects. But
I'm worried 
> about installing a few CS3 apps after that: I still need
The CS3 versions of 
> Dreamweaver and InDesign to work because I didn't
get the "sell your kidney" 
> version of CS4 that includes them..


The good news is that I'm not out any $ as the software was purchased for my 
wife's PowerBook G4 laptop through her work. Of course, it installed just fine 
on her machine even though it's going on six years old now. But, since Adobe 
allows for single users to install on one laptop and one desktop I gave it go 
on my Mac Pro. Well, that was an adventure. 

I wonder if it has to do with the Intel chips on my first generation Mac Pro. I 
know that others with identical machines were having precisely the same issue 
as me. But, even folks with brand new machines were having install issues so 
it's anybody's guess.

I'm thinking I might upgrade to Snow Leopard and see if that makes any 
difference. It's totally counterintuitive since SN has all kinds of bugs 
associated with it if you can trust the forum chatter. But, I probably give it 
a go for a lark. At this point I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would 
do any good :-)

-Brendan


  

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Re: Anyone else ...

[drd1135]

Happy 50th, Dudette!
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From: "John Sessoms" 


> ... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to?


The "wild child from Chicago" turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She 
had a lovely walk with her husband this afternoon, a fine dinner afterwards, 
and is hoping to do something wild and crazy with melted chocolate and 
strawberries later.  :-)


Seriously though, everything is fine--just really busy, but I have been 
reading posts now and then; I'm in semi-lurking mode!

Big cheers, Christine 



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PESO - Furness Library

[Rick Womer]

The fine old Victorian pile known as the Furness Building houses a very 
handsome library.  Windows open into it from the building's third floor.  I 
leaned out through one for this shot; things were too tight to use the fisheye, 
though I may try again sometime.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734954

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/20)

Rick



  


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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Adam Maas]

Hell was designed by BMC Software and implemented by Blackboard Inc.
Adobe's positively wonderful in comparison to those two.

-Adam

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:59 PM,   wrote:
> Hell was designed by Adobe.
> Steve Desjardins
>

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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[drd1135]

Hell was designed by Adobe. 
Steve Desjardins

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts 
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:13:27 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps
and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes
that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm working with the CS3
interfaces... so, even though it's expensive (even with an academic
discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 "Production Premium"
suite.

I was dreading the install Even before I started. Adobe won't let you
"upgrade" apps - you have to install the new software alongside your
existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and then uninstall
the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if everything
*works*. Which it didn't.

Error message that says some component installs failed: a list that
includes just about every application in the suite. Multiple tries.
Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. Many re-boots. Manually
uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. A Google search
on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. None of
the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant suggestion
from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna let
me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?

Finally, I just let the installation run through to the end, even
though it warned me at the beginning that almost none of the aps would
be installed. Strangely, it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end
about half of the apps do install, even though the error message said
they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, After Effects and Encore failed. And
I deleted the CS3 versions at the start (and I'm afraid to risk trying
to re-install them at this point). Fortunately, my new laptop is
(barely) powerful to do the limited video editing I need to do at the
moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get by.

I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably could
have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with less
trouble!"

Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems to be stable
enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of trouble).

Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit Windows
7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With a
clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if I
install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a dreamer...


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
>
> I think that many even here in Canada are frustrated that they can't
> get faster service if they pay for it (like you can in the US).  That
> would, in the minds of many (including me!) undermine the idea of
> universality that's now the bedrock of our system.  If one can pay to
> get to the front of the line, then someone with less money will have
> to wait longer.  Some may think this is fair, some (like me) don't.
>
> That being said, I've never been in the situation of needing surgery
> and having to wait.  I'm honest enough to admit that my tune might
> change some if I could afford hip-replacement surgery but had to wait
> months or years to get my surgery.
>
> cheers,
> frank
> --

Canada's always had a two-tier health system. The poor get stuck with
our mediocre service, the rich go to the US and pay the over-inflated
costs down there. The thing that frustrates people is that we can't
pay a Canadian for service outside the line, even if we can afford it.
The only thing we handle reasonably well is emergency services (and to
a lesser extent, medical emergencies which require non-emergency
department care).

I've got extensive experience with the Canadian Health system due to
having two chronically ill close family members (grandfather with
post-polio syndrome, who passed away in the late 90's, and my mother
has severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and has had 2 hip replacements and
various other surgeries). The Canadian system sucks, we just tend to
suck less than most of the more socialized systems (mostly because
Canada has 11 semi-independent systems, not one National system).
Overall the US system delivers better care, but its costing is totally
broken, mostly due to problems with the large Insurance Companies and
HMO's, which drive up uninsured costs (if the insurance companies in
the US payed the same rates as uninsured for care, uninsured costs
would plummet. As it is, uninsured payers end up paying for most of
the cost of delinquent uninsured patents). Both the US and Canadian
systems are broken in different ways.

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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as you've seen firsthand. I have 
> the entire suite here that absolutely refuses to install on my Mac. I tried 
> the Adobe forums first, then tech support (free for installation issues) and 
> spent a good 6-7 hours of my life on the phone and was never able to get the 
> stupid thing to install. It's just a complete joke. None of the clean scripts 
> they have do a damn thing except get the install to a further point before 
> failing. 
> 
I guess I was lucky. I installed the whole Creative Suite Deluxe on both my 
Macs with no problems.
Paul

> 
> - Original Message 
>> From: Mark Roberts 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 6:13:27 PM
>> Subject: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.
>> 
>> There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
> But... the 
>> courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps
> and it's becoming 
>> increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes
> that use the CS4 
>> interfaces while I'm working with the CS3
> interfaces... so, even though it's 
>> expensive (even with an academic
> discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 
>> "Production Premium"
> suite.
> 
> I was dreading the install Even before I 
>> started. Adobe won't let you
> "upgrade" apps - you have to install the new 
>> software alongside your
> existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and 
>> then uninstall
> the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if 
>> everything
> *works*. Which it didn't.
> 
> Error message that says some 
>> component installs failed: a list that
> includes just about every application 
>> in the suite. Multiple tries.
> Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. 
>> Many re-boots. Manually
> uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. 
>> A Google search
> on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. 
>> None of
> the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant 
>> suggestion
> from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna 
>> let
> me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?
> 
> Finally, 
>> I just let the installation run through to the end, even
> though it warned me 
>> at the beginning that almost none of the aps would
> be installed. Strangely, 
>> it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end
> about half of the apps do 
>> install, even though the error message said
> they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, 
>> After Effects and Encore failed. And
> I deleted the CS3 versions at the start 
>> (and I'm afraid to risk trying
> to re-install them at this point). 
>> Fortunately, my new laptop is
> (barely) powerful to do the limited video 
>> editing I need to do at the
> moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get 
>> by.
> 
> I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably 
>> could
> have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with 
>> less
> trouble!"
> 
> Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems 
>> to be stable
> enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of 
>> trouble).
> 
> Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit 
>> Windows
> 7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With 
>> a
> clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if 
>> I
> install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a 
>> dreamer...
> 
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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>
>> On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:
>>
>>> You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is," so 
>>> frequently a little balance is called for. But that's okay.
>>
>> The K-x has the best low light capabilities of any Pentax camera to
>> date,
>
> I agree. That doesn't necessarily make it the best option. Far from it.

Actually, the K-x currently has the best high ISO performance of any
APS-C or smaller sensor camera. It's not that far behind the D700
either (less DR, similar performance at 3200, not much more noise at
6400, the D700's visibly better at 12,800 though and has 25,600). If
you don't want to haul a brick, nothing can beat the K-x for low-light
performance.

>
>> it's not just me, there's a chorus of very satisfied Pentax K-x
>> owners, many of which also own the K7 as a point of comparison. I'm
>> sure that the K7 suites your needs, you've said it yourself many times
>> but that doesn't mean that it's the best option.
>
> It does for me. And my evaluation is personal, just like yours.
>
>>
>>> I don't like multipoint autofocus either, but I do want to be able to 
>>> choose the single point that I use. I'm not willling to go back to point 
>>> and shoot style autofocus. One point in the center is in the wrong place 
>>> 90% of the time.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the big deal is here, the K-x has no AF position
>> indicators in the finder, you can still select the AF position as it's
>> indicated on the rear panel instead.
>
> But you can't locate it in the viewfinder. It's hit and miss.

You get the AF frame outline, and the point's location in the frame is
shown on the rear display. I was surprised but I don't much miss the
point display, somewhat the opposite in fact. It's not hit and  miss
after the first 5 minutes (and it's not like the AF point display in
the viewfinder is always accurate either, it's an approximation).

>
>> There is 5 or 11 point auto AF,
>> centre point AF or manual selection of 1 of the 11 AF points. Plus the
>> AF is faster than the K20D and anecdotal reports that it's at least as
>> fast as the K7.
>
> The K7 autofocus is far faster than the K20D. I would be surprised if the Kx 
> could match it.

K-x seems to have similar performance on the software side but a less
powerful motor.

>>
>> The K-x is quite a deal really and compliments either the K20D or K7 quite 
>> well.
>
> That's true. I wouldn't mind having one for the occasional low-light foray. 
> In fact, I've considered selling my k20 and making the KX my second camera.
> Paul
>>
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Mark Roberts]

Brendan MacRae wrote:

>CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as you've seen firsthand. 
>I have the entire suite here that absolutely refuses to install on my Mac.
>I tried the Adobe forums first, then tech support (free for installation 
>issues) and spent a good 6-7 hours of my life on the phone and was never 
>able to get the stupid thing to install. It's just a complete joke. None 
>of the clean scripts they have do a damn thing except get the install to 
>a further point before failing. 

You'd think that they would have worked out the issues by now. (And,
yes, I discovered that none of their clean scripts works.)

I have high hopes that a clean install in a freshly-installed OS will
function properly, including Premier Pro, Encore and After Efects. But
I'm worried about installing a few CS3 apps after that: I still need
The CS3 versions of Dreamweaver and InDesign to work because I didn't
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Re: PESO - There is No Time...

[ann sanfedele]

Yeah, that's better - real nice shot, Rick

Ann



Rick Womer wrote:


Thanks, Ann!

I burned the window in a bit, and boosted the contrast--lately it seems that 
pix posted to photo.net look a bit washed-out.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734857&size=lg

Cheers,

Rick

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--- On Thu, 2/25/10, ann sanfedele  wrote:

 


From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: Re: PESO - There is No Time...
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 12:27 AM
Dear Indecisive -
We prefer the first one... maybe burn in the window a bit,
though  


Yeah - very  nice

ann



Rick Womer wrote:

   


I took a photo walk last weekend to the Penn campus,
 


where there is a wonderful Victorian pile called the Furness
Building.  I found this on the third floor:
   


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10730845&size=lg

The ironwork and its shadow were also intriguing on
 


their own, and I'm feeling indecisive:
   


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10730843

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/60)

Rick



 



 

 



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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> paul stenquist wrote:
> 
>> I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame intentions 
>> here:-).
> 
> Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still
> won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the
> scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the cheesy software that
> came with the scanner. And the IT guys are stumped on both issues.

Does it have any PCI cards for scuzzy or USB 2.0 ports? Belkin cards in 
particular cause startup problems. Is the scanner an Epson? Lots of trouble 
getting their drivers to work with some Mac OS versions.

> 
>> I love Bridge. Never tried it on CS3. (I went straight from CS to CS4.) 
>> Bridge has become 
>> the heart of my file system and workflow model. Couldn't be happier with 
>> CS4, after 
>> about a year of using it Hope things all sort out for you.
> 
> Bridge has become irrelevant to me for still images in a
> Lightroom-based workflow, but it's still useful for other media.
> Bridge CS3 and CS2 locked up and crashed too often on me so I'm
> hopping CS4 proves more stable.

I still can't get used to Lightroom. But I almost always do some PhotoShop work 
on stills in addition to conversion, so Im happy with my PhotoShop workflow. 
Lightroom would just add an extra step for me.

Paul
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Re: multiple copies ...

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> Guess it is happening some ... this came through twice.
> 
> 
> From: paul stenquist
>> On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 From: "P. J. Alling"
>> On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>> From: Steven Desjardins
>> I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity
>> event, i.e., if someone buys it the SPCA
>> keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd
>> like to hear some of your expert suggestions.
>> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
>> I would photoshop out the left-most catch-light, so
>> that there is only > a single light in each eye. The
>> double catch-light in the other eye is > joined
>> together, so it appears as one light.
>> Heck, it's a cat, they;re all a bit strange so it fits...
 Doesn't really matter what it's a photo of.
 It's just one of those things you do for a good print. Single
 catch-light in each eye. If the double catch-light in the other
 eye had been separated just a tiny bit more, the second light
 would have to go from that eye as well.
>> Nothing HAS to go. I've been seeing a lot of double catchlights in
>> high end fashion photography lately. Thumb through an issue of Vogue.
>> The photographer chooses the look. We're free to like it or dislike
>> it, but there's no one right way. Paul
> 
> Not singling you out on this Paul. It did come through twice.
> 
> I was trained to a standard with regards what makes a good print, however 
> many double catch-lights may be appearing in "high end fashion photography 
> lately".
> 
> I do agree that we are "free to like it or dislike it" as we please, although 
> I think it odd to be told I'm wrong if indeed "there's no one right way".
> 
You're not wrong in suggesting that you'd like ti better with one catch light 
per eye. You're wrong  in saying that the second catchlight HAS to come out. 
But that's okay. I'm frequently wrong as well:-).
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Adam Maas]

Shouldn't need a plugin, just a properly TWAIN-compliant Epson App. PS
supports any TWAIN-compliant scanner and has for years. It's an awful
way to scan though, batch scanning is severely crippled from inside
PS. Which is why I batch-scan and monitor the output directory via
Bridge.

-Adam

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
>
> There isn't a PS plug-in for my Epson 2450 using CS4, so I'm stuck using the 
> Epson software. Mostly it won't recognise the scanner first up and I have to 
> restart the scanner and software. I think that is Epson's way of telling me 
> to upgrade.
>
> On 26/02/2010, at 1:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> paul stenquist wrote:
>>
>>> I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame 
>>> intentions here:-).
>>
>> Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still
>> won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the
>> scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the cheesy software that
>> came with the scanner. And the IT guys are stumped on both issues.
>



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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Brendan MacRae]

CS4 has been plagued with install issues, as you've seen firsthand. I have the 
entire suite here that absolutely refuses to install on my Mac. I tried the 
Adobe forums first, then tech support (free for installation issues) and spent 
a good 6-7 hours of my life on the phone and was never able to get the stupid 
thing to install. It's just a complete joke. None of the clean scripts they 
have do a damn thing except get the install to a further point before failing. 


- Original Message 
> From: Mark Roberts 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 6:13:27 PM
> Subject: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.
> 
> There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
But... the 
> courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps
and it's becoming 
> increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes
that use the CS4 
> interfaces while I'm working with the CS3
interfaces... so, even though it's 
> expensive (even with an academic
discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 
> "Production Premium"
suite.

I was dreading the install Even before I 
> started. Adobe won't let you
"upgrade" apps - you have to install the new 
> software alongside your
existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and 
> then uninstall
the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if 
> everything
*works*. Which it didn't.

Error message that says some 
> component installs failed: a list that
includes just about every application 
> in the suite. Multiple tries.
Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. 
> Many re-boots. Manually
uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. 
> A Google search
on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. 
> None of
the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant 
> suggestion
from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna 
> let
me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?

Finally, 
> I just let the installation run through to the end, even
though it warned me 
> at the beginning that almost none of the aps would
be installed. Strangely, 
> it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end
about half of the apps do 
> install, even though the error message said
they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, 
> After Effects and Encore failed. And
I deleted the CS3 versions at the start 
> (and I'm afraid to risk trying
to re-install them at this point). 
> Fortunately, my new laptop is
(barely) powerful to do the limited video 
> editing I need to do at the
moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get 
> by.

I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably 
> could
have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with 
> less
trouble!"

Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems 
> to be stable
enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of 
> trouble).

Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit 
> Windows
7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With 
> a
clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if 
> I
install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a 
> dreamer...


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Re: PESO - There is No Time...

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Ann!

I burned the window in a bit, and boosted the contrast--lately it seems that 
pix posted to photo.net look a bit washed-out.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10734857&size=lg

Cheers,

Rick

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--- On Thu, 2/25/10, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> From: ann sanfedele 
> Subject: Re: PESO - There is No Time...
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 12:27 AM
> Dear Indecisive -
> We prefer the first one... maybe burn in the window a bit,
> though  
> 
> Yeah - very  nice
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> >I took a photo walk last weekend to the Penn campus,
> where there is a wonderful Victorian pile called the Furness
> Building.  I found this on the third floor:
> >
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10730845&size=lg
> >
> >The ironwork and its shadow were also intriguing on
> their own, and I'm feeling indecisive:
> >
> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10730843
> >
> >(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/60)
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >      
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Paul Ewins]

There isn't a PS plug-in for my Epson 2450 using CS4, so I'm stuck using the 
Epson software. Mostly it won't recognise the scanner first up and I have to 
restart the scanner and software. I think that is Epson's way of telling me to 
upgrade. 

On 26/02/2010, at 1:34 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> paul stenquist wrote:
> 
>> I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame intentions 
>> here:-). 
> 
> Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still
> won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the
> scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the cheesy software that
> came with the scanner. And the IT guys are stumped on both issues.


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Re: PESO - There is No Time...

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Frank!

Frank Furness was a leading architect in Philadelphia in the late 1800s; he 
designed the first library on Penn's then-semi-rural campus.  It is a gem. It 
now houses the Fine Arts Library; the main library moved to a nearby 
architectural dungheap in the 1960's. 

When final exams approach the Furness Building =does= bear a certain 
resemblance to a Victorian workhouse, though...

Rick

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--- On Wed, 2/24/10, frank theriault  wrote:

> > I took a photo walk last weekend to the Penn campus,
> where there is a wonderful Victorian pile called the Furness
> Building.  I found this on the third floor:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10730845&size=lg
> >
> > The ironwork and its shadow were also intriguing on
> their own, and I'm feeling indecisive:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10730843
> >
> > (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/4 @ 1/60)
> 
> Gotta go with the script.
> 
> What was the Furness Building?  My guess would be an
> old workhouse or
> factory of some sort.
> 
> Wonderful photos, both.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Stan Halpin]

> On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:02 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> 
> I think all handguns should be banned, no exceptions.
> 
> I think it's legitimate and morally right to consider abortion as a
> form of birth control.
> 
> Obama's health care bill doesn't go nearly far enough.  Screw
> bipartisanism, he should just ram the bill through.  It's for the good
> of the people.
> 
> God is dead.
> ***
> 
> Discuss among yourselves...
> 
> cheers,
> frank, stirring the pot again
> 

What is to discuss. You have it mostly correct.
(God isn't dead; she is on an extended vacation in Andromeda.)

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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Mark Roberts]

paul stenquist wrote:

>I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame intentions 
>here:-). 

Good, because I'm ready for a Mac rant, too: The Mac at school still
won't let me log in on the first try and it won't *ever* recognize the
scanner through Photoshop - I have to use the cheesy software that
came with the scanner. And the IT guys are stumped on both issues.

>I love Bridge. Never tried it on CS3. (I went straight from CS to CS4.) Bridge 
>has become 
>the heart of my file system and workflow model. Couldn't be happier with CS4, 
>after 
>about a year of using it Hope things all sort out for you.

Bridge has become irrelevant to me for still images in a
Lightroom-based workflow, but it's still useful for other media.
Bridge CS3 and CS2 locked up and crashed too often on me so I'm
hopping CS4 proves more stable.

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RE: multiple copies ...

[John Sessoms]

Guess it is happening some ... this came through twice.


From: paul stenquist

On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: "P. J. Alling"

On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Steven Desjardins

I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity
event, i.e., if someone buys it the SPCA
keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd
like to hear some of your expert suggestions.


http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/


I would photoshop out the left-most catch-light, so
that there is only > a single light in each eye. The
double catch-light in the other eye is > joined
together, so it appears as one light.


Heck, it's a cat, they;re all a bit strange so it fits...


Doesn't really matter what it's a photo of.

It's just one of those things you do for a good print. Single
catch-light in each eye. If the double catch-light in the other
eye had been separated just a tiny bit more, the second light
would have to go from that eye as well.


Nothing HAS to go. I've been seeing a lot of double catchlights in
high end fashion photography lately. Thumb through an issue of Vogue.
The photographer chooses the look. We're free to like it or dislike
it, but there's no one right way. Paul



Not singling you out on this Paul. It did come through twice.

I was trained to a standard with regards what makes a good print, 
however many double catch-lights may be appearing in "high end fashion 
photography lately".


I do agree that we are "free to like it or dislike it" as we please, 
although I think it odd to be told I'm wrong if indeed "there's no one 
right way".


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Graydon]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 08:07:28PM -0600, Bran Everseeking scripsit:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:55:52 -0500
> Graydon  wrote:
> 
> > > Were She really omniscient, she'd know that ~never~ works...
> > 
> > Ah, but if She's omniscient, She can *make* it work.
> > 
> > -- Graydon
> 
> Dat would be Omnipotent 

Dat it would.

(Though if you know everything presumably you know how to be
omnipotent...)

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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Graydon]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:55:49AM +1100, Rob Studdert scripsit:
> On 26/02/2010, Graydon  wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:54:03AM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit:
> > > Won't do any good, can't find a decent Keyboard for love nor money any
> > > more.  (I keep searching for and recycling oldies with decent tactile
> > > feel).
> >
> > These are oldies, but they seem to have a warehouse of them somewhere:
> > 
> 
> I run the IBM model M13 black (Trackpoint II) on my main machine the
> only problem is the silk screening on the keys, I now have no A or S
> key labels. I have a whole lot of earlier ones too, they are damned
> hard to get apart though. So when I last spilt a full glass of red
> wine in one I hung it over the clothes line, gave it a good hose and
> let it dry for a few days, it's been perfect since. They are very
> robust (but noisy)

I have a milspec M13 (Trackpoint II); it's beige. (The reason it's
milspec?  1/8" steel back plate.  Less noisy.  Haven't tried to test the
"can be used to drive tent pegs" assertion.)

Had (well, I still have it, but it's dead) Unicomp Endurapro; it might
have recovered from the water but not from me trying to get it apart to
dry it.

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Re: Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
> But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps
> and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes
> that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm working with the CS3
> interfaces... so, even though it's expensive (even with an academic
> discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 "Production Premium"
> suite.
> 
> I was dreading the install Even before I started. Adobe won't let you
> "upgrade" apps - you have to install the new software alongside your
> existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and then uninstall
> the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if everything
> *works*. Which it didn't.
> 
> Error message that says some component installs failed: a list that
> includes just about every application in the suite. Multiple tries.
> Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. Many re-boots. Manually
> uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. A Google search
> on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. None of
> the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant suggestion
> from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna let
> me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?
> 
> Finally, I just let the installation run through to the end, even
> though it warned me at the beginning that almost none of the aps would
> be installed. Strangely, it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end
> about half of the apps do install, even though the error message said
> they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, After Effects and Encore failed. And
> I deleted the CS3 versions at the start (and I'm afraid to risk trying
> to re-install them at this point). Fortunately, my new laptop is
> (barely) powerful to do the limited video editing I need to do at the
> moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get by.
> 
> I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably could
> have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with less
> trouble!"
> 
> Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems to be stable
> enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of trouble).
> 
> Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit Windows
> 7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With a
> clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if I
> install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a dreamer...
> 
I had no problems installing CS4, but that was on a Mac. No flame intentions 
here:-). 
I love Bridge. Never tried it on CS3. (I went straight from CS to CS4.) Bridge 
has become the heart of my file system and workflow model. Couldn't be happier 
with CS4, after about a year of using it Hope things all sort out for you.
Paul

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Re: OT: Happy Birthday Christine (was On FF and other "must have" features)

[ann sanfedele]

Bob Sullivan wrote:


Well Happy Birthday! Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
 


- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: On FF and other "must have" features


Bob W wrote:


Piss off little roo eater. <;-)
   


Hehehe...

Haven't had roo in a few months.
 


I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up
with some egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't
   


do it again
 


though - it kept coming back on me.
   


Nice try but, that's a boomerang joke.
 


See - it's come back on me again. I knew I'd rue it.
   


You should have made one of those for Christine today, since it's her
50th birthday. Many happy returns and all that...
 


lol--too bad 50 ain't a boomerang number--one hits 50 then boomerangs back
to 30!  Cheers, Christine


   

I wrote Christine off list a few hours ago... got a reply just a bit ago 
and answered her with
Happy Birthday and pointed out the 50 is the new 30... before reading 
the post above! lol..


ann


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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is," so 
>> frequently a little balance is called for. But that's okay.
> 
> The K-x has the best low light capabilities of any Pentax camera to
> date,

I agree. That doesn't necessarily make it the best option. Far from it.

> it's not just me, there's a chorus of very satisfied Pentax K-x
> owners, many of which also own the K7 as a point of comparison. I'm
> sure that the K7 suites your needs, you've said it yourself many times
> but that doesn't mean that it's the best option.

It does for me. And my evaluation is personal, just like yours.

> 
>> I don't like multipoint autofocus either, but I do want to be able to choose 
>> the single point that I use. I'm not willling to go back to point and shoot 
>> style autofocus. One point in the center is in the wrong place 90% of the 
>> time.
> 
> I'm not sure what the big deal is here, the K-x has no AF position
> indicators in the finder, you can still select the AF position as it's
> indicated on the rear panel instead.

But you can't locate it in the viewfinder. It's hit and miss. 

> There is 5 or 11 point auto AF,
> centre point AF or manual selection of 1 of the 11 AF points. Plus the
> AF is faster than the K20D and anecdotal reports that it's at least as
> fast as the K7.

The K7 autofocus is far faster than the K20D. I would be surprised if the Kx 
could match it.
> 
> The K-x is quite a deal really and compliments either the K20D or K7 quite 
> well.

That's true. I wouldn't mind having one for the occasional low-light foray. In 
fact, I've considered selling my k20 and making the KX my second camera. 
Paul
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Let's not bitch about Pentax... Let's bitch about Adobe.

[Mark Roberts]

There's nothing about the CS3 applications that doesn't suit me.
But... the courses I'm teaching are built around the CS4 Adobe apps
and it's becoming increasingly difficult to plan lessons for classes
that use the CS4 interfaces while I'm working with the CS3
interfaces... so, even though it's expensive (even with an academic
discount), I recently ordered the Adobe CS4 "Production Premium"
suite.

I was dreading the install Even before I started. Adobe won't let you
"upgrade" apps - you have to install the new software alongside your
existing versions, transfer plug-ins and Actions and then uninstall
the old versions. Infuriating. But that's how it goes if everything
*works*. Which it didn't.

Error message that says some component installs failed: a list that
includes just about every application in the suite. Multiple tries.
Disabling firewall and anti-virus software. Many re-boots. Manually
uninstalling old versions before installing new ones. A Google search
on the error message I'm getting reveals I'm far from alone. None of
the official or unofficial remedies works. One brilliant suggestion
from Adobe: "Try installing on another computer". Hey Doug! Wanna let
me install my new Adobe software suite on your computer?

Finally, I just let the installation run through to the end, even
though it warned me at the beginning that almost none of the aps would
be installed. Strangely, it goes through all 4 DVD's. And in the end
about half of the apps do install, even though the error message said
they wouldn't. Only Premiere Pro, After Effects and Encore failed. And
I deleted the CS3 versions at the start (and I'm afraid to risk trying
to re-install them at this point). Fortunately, my new laptop is
(barely) powerful to do the limited video editing I need to do at the
moment, and it has the CS3 suite, so I can get by.

I'm thinking all along, "I paid $$$ for this when I probably could
have found a torrent with a crack that would have installed with less
trouble!"

Good news is that the CS4 version of Adobe Bridge seems to be stable
enough to be actually usable (Bridge CS3 caused me no end of trouble).

Other good news is that my laptop has demonstrated that 64-bit Windows
7 looks like a winner, so I'll soon be upgrading my desktop OS. With a
clean install, I'm hoping that the CS4 install works completely if I
install before any of the other software. Yeah, call me a dreamer...


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Bran Everseeking]

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:55:52 -0500
Graydon  wrote:

> > Were She really omniscient, she'd know that ~never~ works...
> 
> Ah, but if She's omniscient, She can *make* it work.
> 
> -- Graydon

Dat would be Omnipotent 

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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Graydon]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 06:17:53PM -0500, frank theriault scripsit:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> >> God is dead.
> >
> > No she isn't. She's just moved on to a new relationship.
> >
> > She says we can still "be friends."
> 
> Were She really omniscient, she'd know that ~never~ works...

Ah, but if She's omniscient, She can *make* it work.

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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[Rob Studdert]

On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:

> You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is," so 
> frequently a little balance is called for. But that's okay.

The K-x has the best low light capabilities of any Pentax camera to
date, it's not just me, there's a chorus of very satisfied Pentax K-x
owners, many of which also own the K7 as a point of comparison. I'm
sure that the K7 suites your needs, you've said it yourself many times
but that doesn't mean that it's the best option.

> I don't like multipoint autofocus either, but I do want to be able to choose 
> the single point that I use. I'm not willling to go back to point and shoot 
> style autofocus. One point in the center is in the wrong place 90% of the 
> time.

I'm not sure what the big deal is here, the K-x has no AF position
indicators in the finder, you can still select the AF position as it's
indicated on the rear panel instead. There is 5 or 11 point auto AF,
centre point AF or manual selection of 1 of the 11 AF points. Plus the
AF is faster than the K20D and anecdotal reports that it's at least as
fast as the K7.

The K-x is quite a deal really and compliments either the K20D or K7 quite well.

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OT: Happy Birthday Christine (was On FF and other "must have" features)

[Bob Sullivan]

Well Happy Birthday! Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: On FF and other "must have" features
>
>
>> Bob W wrote:
>>
 >> > Piss off little roo eater. <;-)
 >>
 >> Hehehe...
 >>
 >> Haven't had roo in a few months.
 >
 > I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up
 > with some egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't
 do it again
 > though - it kept coming back on me.

 Nice try but, that's a boomerang joke.
>>>
>>> See - it's come back on me again. I knew I'd rue it.
>>
>> You should have made one of those for Christine today, since it's her
>> 50th birthday. Many happy returns and all that...
>
>
> lol--too bad 50 ain't a boomerang number--one hits 50 then boomerangs back
> to 30!  Cheers, Christine
>
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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't 
>> live without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 
>> prints,vertical grip,  and 1000 exposure battery life.
> 
> I know I should have added a P.S to my message of enablement such as;
> "unless of course you are Paul as he's quite enamoured with the
> performance of his K7 in low light" ;-)
> 
> I only tell it like it is.
> 
> PS and I really am no fan of vertical grips or multi-point AF, they
> both interfere with the flow of my shooting.

You tell it like you see it. That's not necessarily 'like it is," so frequently 
a little balance is called for. But that's okay.
I don't like multipoint autofocus either, but I do want to be able to choose 
the single point that I use. I'm not willling to go back to point and shoot 
style autofocus. One point in the center is in the wrong place 90% of the time.
Paul
> 


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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[Rob Studdert]

On 26/02/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:

> Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't 
> live without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 
> prints,vertical grip,  and 1000 exposure battery life.

I know I should have added a P.S to my message of enablement such as;
"unless of course you are Paul as he's quite enamoured with the
performance of his K7 in low light" ;-)

I only tell it like it is.

PS and I really am no fan of vertical grips or multi-point AF, they
both interfere with the flow of my shooting.

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GESO: Surf N Turf (#6)

[David Mann]

Yet another swim & run race.

This week the race was held at Scarborough Beach at the eastern edge of the 
city.  We had much better weather but the surf wasn't safe to do the full swim 
course.  So the swim-only events were cancelled and the aquathon (swim followed 
by run) was greatly shortened.



We had an onshore breeze so a bit of haze in the air.  There was a decent 
amount of light for once so the AF worked a lot better, plus I could get some 
decent shutter speeds and stop down a bit.  That was a refreshing change from 
the previous events.

This was going to be the final race in the series but due to the swim troubles 
the organiser has scheduled a swimming-only event for next week.  Not sure if 
I'll be there for that one.

Dave
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[John Sessoms]

From: steve harley

On 2010-02-25 17:39 , eckinator wrote:

> that's only 'cos of Ricky Martin - offer him citizenship instead =)


{chuckles} but note that Puerto Ricans are US Citizens; they just don't 
get a vote in the US Congress


They don't get to vote for Congress if they're still living in Puerto 
Rico proper. They can move to any of the states any time they want and 
register to vote the day they get there.


And they will get to vote for Congress if/when Puerto Rico becomes a state.

I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for President, so there must 
be some way to count their "electoral" vote.


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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[John Sessoms]

From: Graydon

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:54:03AM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit:
> Won't do any good, can't find a decent Keyboard for love nor money any  
> more.  (I keep searching for and recycling oldies with decent tactile 
> feel).


These are oldies, but they seem to have a warehouse of them somewhere:


These are brand new:


You're going to pay, but hey, it is the most used part of the computer.


You have *GOT* to be kidding me. $95 for an IBM M keyboard?

I think I've still got a half dozen or so around here somewhere. Stocked 
up when they were going for $2 new in box.


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Glad to hear it was only a case of gravity !

The waits I'm hearing about with Canadian medicine are mostly about 
elective

surgery - knees, hips and things like that.\

BTW, as I sit here typing away, my pulse is 59 bpm.


59 is impressively low.

You're right about the waits for elective surgery.  They've been
unreasonably long for some time now.  I believe that they're getting
better, but there's certainly more work that needs to be done.

About 10 years ago we had a shortage of MRI technicians (not the
machines, just the techs) so there was a waiting list for those as
well.  We Ontarians were sending cancer patients down to Buffalo on
the Canadian taxpayers dime.  In time we got our waiting time down to
something more reasonable.

I think that many even here in Canada are frustrated that they can't
get faster service if they pay for it (like you can in the US).  That
would, in the minds of many (including me!) undermine the idea of
universality that's now the bedrock of our system.  If one can pay to
get to the front of the line, then someone with less money will have
to wait longer.  Some may think this is fair, some (like me) don't.

That being said, I've never been in the situation of needing surgery
and having to wait.  I'm honest enough to admit that my tune might
change some if I could afford hip-replacement surgery but had to wait
months or years to get my surgery.


While I did put off replacement knees for quite some time until the pain 
really affected my daily activities, when I decided to do it - it was a few 
weeks wait, mainly due to the specific doctor I had do them.




cheers,
frank



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Re: Need advice on a picture (Warning: high "cute kitty", index)

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: "P. J. Alling"
>> On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 From: Steven Desjardins
>> I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone
>> buys it the SPCA keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd like to
>> hear some of your expert suggestions.
>> 
>> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
 
 I would photoshop out the left-most catch-light, so that there is only > a 
 single light in each eye. The double catch-light in the other eye is > 
 joined together, so it appears as one light.
 
>> Heck, it's a cat, they;re all a bit strange so it fits...
> 
> Doesn't really matter what it's a photo of.
> 
> It's just one of those things you do for a good print. Single catch-light in 
> each eye. If the double catch-light in the other eye had been separated just 
> a tiny bit more, the second light would have to go from that eye as well.

Nothing HAS to go. I've been seeing a lot of double catchlights in high end 
fashion photography lately. Thumb through an issue of Vogue. The photographer 
chooses the look. We're free to like it or dislike it, but there's no one right 
way.
Paul

> 
> Portraiture print competition rules for PPONC.
> 
> The final exam for my retouching class was removing reflections from glasses 
> on an 8x10 glossy print; head shot. Had to be undetectable when viewed at 
> arms length.
> 
> It's a lot easier to do in photoshop than it was having to do it on actual 
> prints.
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Re: Need advice on a picture (Warning: high "cute kitty", index)

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: "P. J. Alling"
>> On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>> > From: Steven Desjardins
 >> I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone
 >> buys it the SPCA keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd like to
 >> hear some of your expert suggestions.
 >>
 >> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
>>> >
>>> > I would photoshop out the left-most catch-light, so that there is only > 
>>> > a single light in each eye. The double catch-light in the other eye is > 
>>> > joined together, so it appears as one light.
>>> >
>> Heck, it's a cat, they;re all a bit strange so it fits...
> 
> Doesn't really matter what it's a photo of.
> 
> It's just one of those things you do for a good print. Single catch-light in 
> each eye. If the double catch-light in the other eye had been separated just 
> a tiny bit more, the second light would have to go from that eye as well.

Nothing HAS to go. I've been seeing a lot of double catchlights in high end 
fashion photography lately. Thumb through an issue of Vogue. The photographer 
chooses the look. We're free to like it or dislike it, but there's no one right 
way.
Paul

> 
> Portraiture print competition rules for PPONC.
> 
> The final exam for my retouching class was removing reflections from glasses 
> on an 8x10 glossy print; head shot. Had to be undetectable when viewed at 
> arms length.
> 
> It's a lot easier to do in photoshop than it was having to do it on actual 
> prints.
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Re: PESO - Young Man Wearing a Hat

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks

Looks more like a hat wearing a man.;-)

Nice portrait shot.

Dave

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:44 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:

> A "street portrait":
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/young-man-wearing-hat.html


Guy walks into the emergency room, he's got a duck on his head - it's 
Toronto, so insurance covers it ...


Anyway the Doctor asks what the problem is, and the duck says "Doc, I 
got this strange growth on my butt!"


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Re: Anyone else ...

[paul stenquist]

Yep! Happy Birthday young lady. Do the town!!
Paul

On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:32 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Christine  Aguila
>  wrote:
> 
>> The "wild child from Chicago" turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She
>> had a lovely walk with her husband this afternoon, a fine dinner afterwards,
>> and is hoping to do something wild and crazy with melted chocolate and
>> strawberries later.  :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Seriously though, everything is fine--just really busy, but I have been
>> reading posts now and then; I'm in semi-lurking mode!
> 
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
> 
> I wasn't worried, but did notice you've not been on-list much of late.
> It's nice to hear from you.
> 
> Now, since it's your birthday, go get drunk.  If you're already drunk,
> get drunker.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> you forgot to add "Canada becomming the 51 st state" !


"...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing
grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall
fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."

https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1184/images/chipmunk_armed.jpg


You will be assimulated!

BTW, that is NOT a chipmunk.

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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Glad to hear it was only a case of gravity !
>
> The waits I'm hearing about with Canadian medicine are mostly about elective
> surgery - knees, hips and things like that.\
>
> BTW, as I sit here typing away, my pulse is 59 bpm.

59 is impressively low.

You're right about the waits for elective surgery.  They've been
unreasonably long for some time now.  I believe that they're getting
better, but there's certainly more work that needs to be done.

About 10 years ago we had a shortage of MRI technicians (not the
machines, just the techs) so there was a waiting list for those as
well.  We Ontarians were sending cancer patients down to Buffalo on
the Canadian taxpayers dime.  In time we got our waiting time down to
something more reasonable.

I think that many even here in Canada are frustrated that they can't
get faster service if they pay for it (like you can in the US).  That
would, in the minds of many (including me!) undermine the idea of
universality that's now the bedrock of our system.  If one can pay to
get to the front of the line, then someone with less money will have
to wait longer.  Some may think this is fair, some (like me) don't.

That being said, I've never been in the situation of needing surgery
and having to wait.  I'm honest enough to admit that my tune might
change some if I could afford hip-replacement surgery but had to wait
months or years to get my surgery.

cheers,
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RE: multiple copies of messages being received from the list -, anyone else?

[John Sessoms]

From: Charles Robinson

Is it just me?

I'm getting repeat after repeat... the same messages and threads over
and over even after I delete them.  I'll blow away a thread and 20
minutes later I'll see the same messages again.  Not just more
messages in the same thread, but the same old messages.

Specifically, the NX K-mount adapter thread, and the Samsung TL-500
thread come to mind at this point (although I'm sure there are more)

This is only happening for my PDML messages.  I'm willing to believe
that it could be a local misconfiguration on this end somehow, but I
was just curious if anyone else is seeing the same behavior.


Not here
Not here
Not here
Not here
Not here

;-D

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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[paul stenquist]

On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 26/02/2010, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Really good.
>> 
>> So, I guess the K-x guys are going to all be submitting shots taken in
>> near darkness? I find this one of the most interesting developments
>> for digital photography.  Maybe you could push film this hard, but
>> never this easily.  In some ways this changes the "kind" of pictures
>> you can take.
> 
> You got it, get your hands on a K-x and you'll truly appreciate the
> added potential it provides.

Nah. I'm okay with a little grittiness in my low-light shots. And I can't live 
without my focus points, weather sealing, enough resolution for 24 x 30 
prints,vertical grip,  and 1000 exposure battery life. 

I get this level of ISO 6400 performance with th K7 -- shooting RAW with no 
noise reduction. It's more than adequate for anything I'm going to shoot, 
professionally or just for grins:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10541951&size=lg

Paul
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Re: OT: Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich

[John Sessoms]

From: mike wilson

Scott Loveless wrote:

> On 2/25/10, Bob W  wrote:
> 

It's that time of year again:

>>

>> > >
>> > >

>> > > > > >

>> >
>> > The worm one actually looks quite interesting.
>> > http://www.gla.ac.uk/centres/glasgowcentreforinternationaldeve
>> > lopment/publications/

>>
>>
>>"a book written by Professor David Crompton which draws on some of David's
>> reminiscences during his long and distinguished career as a parasitologist
>> in the developing world"
>>
>> I'll bet it's riddled with laughs.
> 
> 
> Itch a really good one to bury your head in.


A hook on every page?


Every meal a feast.

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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[eckinator]

cherry support once told me off record that when they get them back
for cleaning they just put them in the dishwasher - they do have a
special detergent with less acids but he said any mild soap for doing
dishes by hand would do the trick just fine - did it and it work.
caveat, that was early 90s, no idea how it would work nowadays
cheers
ecke

2010/2/26 Rob Studdert :
> On 26/02/2010, Graydon  wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:54:03AM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit:
>> > Won't do any good, can't find a decent Keyboard for love nor money any
>> > more.  (I keep searching for and recycling oldies with decent tactile
>> > feel).
>>
>> These are oldies, but they seem to have a warehouse of them somewhere:
>> 
>
> I run the IBM model M13 black (Trackpoint II) on my main machine the
> only problem is the silk screening on the keys, I now have no A or S
> key labels. I have a whole lot of earlier ones too, they are damned
> hard to get apart though. So when I last spilt a full glass of red
> wine in one I hung it over the clothes line, gave it a good hose and
> let it dry for a few days, it's been perfect since. They are very
> robust (but noisy)
>
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Re: Need advice on a picture (Warning: high "cute kitty", index)

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"

On 2/25/2010 1:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Steven Desjardins

>> I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone
>> buys it the SPCA keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd like to
>> hear some of your expert suggestions.
>>
>> http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

>
> I would photoshop out the left-most catch-light, so that there is only 
> a single light in each eye. The double catch-light in the other eye is 
> joined together, so it appears as one light.

>

Heck, it's a cat, they;re all a bit strange so it fits...


Doesn't really matter what it's a photo of.

It's just one of those things you do for a good print. Single 
catch-light in each eye. If the double catch-light in the other eye had 
been separated just a tiny bit more, the second light would have to go 
from that eye as well.


Portraiture print competition rules for PPONC.

The final exam for my retouching class was removing reflections from 
glasses on an 8x10 glossy print; head shot. Had to be undetectable when 
viewed at arms length.


It's a lot easier to do in photoshop than it was having to do it on 
actual prints.


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[eckinator]

2010/2/26 steve harley :
>
> {chuckles} but note that Puerto Ricans are US Citizens; they just don't get
> a vote in the US Congress

GIVE RICKY A VOTE IN CONGRESS!!!

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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Rob Studdert]

On 26/02/2010, Graydon  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:54:03AM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit:
> > Won't do any good, can't find a decent Keyboard for love nor money any
> > more.  (I keep searching for and recycling oldies with decent tactile
> > feel).
>
> These are oldies, but they seem to have a warehouse of them somewhere:
> 

I run the IBM model M13 black (Trackpoint II) on my main machine the
only problem is the silk screening on the keys, I now have no A or S
key labels. I have a whole lot of earlier ones too, they are damned
hard to get apart though. So when I last spilt a full glass of red
wine in one I hung it over the clothes line, gave it a good hose and
let it dry for a few days, it's been perfect since. They are very
robust (but noisy)

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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: On FF and other "must have" features



Bob W wrote:


>> > Piss off little roo eater. <;-)
>>
>> Hehehe...
>>
>> Haven't had roo in a few months.
>
> I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up
> with some egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't
do it again
> though - it kept coming back on me.

Nice try but, that's a boomerang joke.


See - it's come back on me again. I knew I'd rue it.


You should have made one of those for Christine today, since it's her
50th birthday. Many happy returns and all that...



lol--too bad 50 ain't a boomerang number--one hits 50 then boomerangs back 
to 30!  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[steve harley]

On 2010-02-25 17:39 , eckinator wrote:

that's only 'cos of Ricky Martin - offer him citizenship instead =)


{chuckles} but note that Puerto Ricans are US Citizens; they just don't 
get a vote in the US Congress


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Re: Need advice on a picture (Warning: high "cute kitty" index)

[Christine Aguila]

I totally agree with Ann!!!  That's a good one, Steve!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Need advice on a picture (Warning: high "cute kitty" index)





Steven Desjardins wrote:


I'm submitting a picture for an SPCA charity event, i.e., if someone
buys it the SPCA keeps the money.  This will be a print.  I'd like to
hear some of your expert suggestions.


Don't change a thing!

It's lovely

ann



http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

Please ignore the title on the webpage.  I forgot to change it ;-)






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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Graydon]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:54:03AM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit:
> Won't do any good, can't find a decent Keyboard for love nor money any  
> more.  (I keep searching for and recycling oldies with decent tactile 
> feel).

These are oldies, but they seem to have a warehouse of them somewhere:


These are brand new:


You're going to pay, but hey, it is the most used part of the computer.

-- Graydon

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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> >> > Piss off little roo eater. <;-)
>> >>
>> >> Hehehe...
>> >>
>> >> Haven't had roo in a few months.
>> >
>> > I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up 
>> > with some egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't 
>> do it again 
>> > though - it kept coming back on me.
>> 
>> Nice try but, that's a boomerang joke.
>
>See - it's come back on me again. I knew I'd rue it.

You should have made one of those for Christine today, since it's her
50th birthday. Many happy returns and all that...



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Re: PESO - Bikespotting in Kensington Market

[Ken Waller]

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- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 


Subject: Re: PESO - Bikespotting in Kensington Market



The toes really make that shot...  she is cute as a button as you say
ann


A foot fetish have we Ann ?



frank theriault wrote:


So my little photo shoot yesterday went fine.  In fact it was lots of
fun.  We talked to 11 people and 9 of them will be used in a full page
spread in the next issue.  I'm pretty excited about that and I'm quite
satisfied with what I got.  The article will be called Bikespotting.

Of course, what I submit will be colour, but I couldn't resist
converting a few.  I'll put together a little GESO over the next day
or so, but until then, this is one of my favorites.  I don't know her
name (the writer took all the notes, I just took the pictures), but
she was cute as a button:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/02/bikespotting-in-kensington-market.html

Scroll down and click on photo to enlarge.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[eckinator]

2010/2/26 John Sessoms :
>
> First of all, they'd have to be satisfied to start at #52, 'cause Puerto
> Rico's got dibs on #51.

that's only 'cos of Ricky Martin - offer him citizenship instead =)

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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Graydon]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 08:00:06AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
> I find these dismissive comments to be a little less than smart as well.
> I've been very good to Pentax over the years regarding supporting their 
> lens manufacture, being told to go away and stop bitching because I would 
> like a camera that is as good as what the competition had on the market 5 
> years ago is unreasonable.

You've got quantified testing to back that up?

I'd be quite surprised at 14 MP APS-C in 2005.  (There might have been;
I wasn't much paying attention.)  (And yeah, autofocus; Pentax doesn't
believe in the utility of autofocus.  Much more a cultural problem than
a technical one, I think.  So the current cultural change might have
interesting results.)

Being frustrated, well; Pentax don't have the tech base to be a good
consumer electronics manufacturer.  Recent public comments (for "in the
last 12 months or so" values of recent) could be taken as acknowledging
that.  It then comes down to how they partner, and with who; pretty much
everybody who really knows how to do this stuff is either competition,
second tier (however hard they're working on climbing), or mostly doing
black project work for the USG.

Though I'd be deeply amused at autofocus technology from Questar's high
altitude observation division showing up in Pentax cameras.

-- Graydon

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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Ken Waller]

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 


Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:


you forgot to add "Canada becomming the 51 st state" !


"...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing
grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall
fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."

https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1184/images/chipmunk_armed.jpg


Shouldn't it be a beaver ?



;-)

cheers,
frank



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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[Ken Waller]

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

Subject: RE: On FF and other "must have" features



>>
>
> Piss off little roo eater. <;-)

Hehehe...

Haven't had roo in a few months.


I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up with 
some

egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't do it again though - it
kept coming back on me.


So you did get a kick out of it.



Bob



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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[John Sessoms]

From: Steven Desjardins

I think they show figure out the best star pattern for the flag and
divide Canada accordingly. Preferably before the gold medal game. On
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bob Sullivan 
wrote:

What the hell Ken. ?Be generous. ?Give them 3 states, 51st for
the Frenchies, 52nd for Ontario, and 53rd for the west. Regards,
?Bob S.


Kind of two minds on that ...

First of all, they'd have to be satisfied to start at #52, 'cause Puerto 
Rico's got dibs on #51.


Secondly, I think they should all be happy to be in one big state - do 
to Alaska what Alaska did to Texas, IYKWIM.  ;-D


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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Ken Waller]

Glad to hear it was only a case of gravity !

The waits I'm hearing about with Canadian medicine are mostly about elective 
surgery - knees, hips and things like that.\


BTW, as I sit here typing away, my pulse is 59 bpm.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 


Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Yep. That's why in Detroit we have instances of the citizens of Windsor 
(you

know the city south of Detroit)
coming over to the states for their medical treatments, instead of 
waiting

for it in Ca na da.


I didn't bother telling the list, because it was rather
inconsequential, but about a month ago, I was sitting, got up quickly,
had that "head rush" and (for the first time in my life) fainted.  As
I'd heard that every loss of consciousness requires a doctor visit, I
went to the nearest emergency ward.

Now, I have to admit, I was there a long time.  It was one of
Toronto's largest trauma centres (Sunnybrooke, for you locals) at
evening rush hour, and there were several serious automobile collision
victims that needed help more than me.  All in all, it was a 10 hour
visit, but I realize that my condition put me at the bottom of the
triage list.

However, in that ten hours I got great treatment.  Before seeing a
doctor, nurses took blood, checked blood pressure/pulse and gave me a
cardiogram.  The doctor finally saw me and said that in a way it was
good that I was there for that length of time, because he could give
me ~another~ cardiogram to make sure there was no change (out of an
abundance of caution).  There was also a specific blood test that he
wanted to see that the nurses didn't do, so I got a second session of
bloodwork.

The doctor saw me two or three times, and appeared concerned yet calming.

After it all, he said that all tests were fine, and that (as he said)
gravity just got the best of me that day.  A head rush gone too far,
nothing more.  He said that I'd done the right thing by having it
checked and apologized for the long wait (as several nurses did
earlier).

Can you imagine how much that would have all cost me had I paid for
it?  Or if my insurance paid?  Would they have authorized all those
duplicate tests?

And that was at one of Toronto's top hospitals - yes, I got to choose
the hospital I went to, no insurance company to give me a list of
"approved" hospitals.

So, I'll take the wait to get top treatment with nothing
out-of-pocket, thank you very much.

BTW, Ken, there are many anecdotal stories (as yours was) of Detroit
citizens crossing the border into Canada to try to get treatment here,
as they have no coverage in the US.  "Borrow" a Canadian's card and
hope you don't get caught and charged with fraud - that's how
desperate some uninsured Americans are.

And, to top it off (on a personal note), my heartbeat came in a 57
bpm.  Not quite Lance's resting heartbeat of 32, but pretty good for
an old guy...

;-)

cheers,
frank



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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[eckinator]

2010/2/26 Bob Sullivan :
> Well, I suppose 53 is better.  Maybe we could annex and make it Greater Maine.
> Regards, Bob S.
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Shouldn't it be a prime number? You know, one nation under God, indivisible?
>>
>>>
>>> Are there people who live up there?
>>> Ok 54th state, the flag would look better with 54 stars.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:57 PM, frank theriault
>>>  wrote:
>>> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bob Sullivan
>>>  wrote:
>>> >> What the hell Ken.  Be generous.  Give them 3 states, 51st for the
>>> >> Frenchies, 52nd for Ontario, and 53rd for the west.
>>> >> Regards,  Bob S.
>>> >
>>> > You'll want the east coast, too.  You can never have too
>>> many Maines...

you sure? always a huge mess when a maine breaks or separates...

and ugly things come to mind... we need a flame... keep on baiting!!!
how about putting a fence around NWT and calling it Can'danamo? Much
too cold for amnesty treehuggers anyway... ]=) Next call part of it
North Central Los Angeles and haul up all the gangs. Saves another
star.

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Re: Anyone else ...

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:

> The "wild child from Chicago" turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She
> had a lovely walk with her husband this afternoon, a fine dinner afterwards,
> and is hoping to do something wild and crazy with melted chocolate and
> strawberries later.  :-)
>
>
> Seriously though, everything is fine--just really busy, but I have been
> reading posts now and then; I'm in semi-lurking mode!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

I wasn't worried, but did notice you've not been on-list much of late.
 It's nice to hear from you.

Now, since it's your birthday, go get drunk.  If you're already drunk,
get drunker.

;-)

cheers,
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Re: Anyone else ...

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone else ...


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:08 AM, John Sessoms  
wrote:

... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to?

Noticed Cristina hasn't been on list for a while. Hope she's doing ok.


I too have noticed.  I'm sure she's just out being wild.



Yep, and boy has it been fun  :-).  Big cheers, Christine 




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Re: Anyone else ...

[Christine Aguila]

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From: "Bob Sullivan" 

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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone else ...


or grading mid-terms...

Well, not just yet, but soon :-).  Cheers, Christine


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Re: Anyone else ...

[Christine Aguila]

From: "John Sessoms" 



... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to?



The "wild child from Chicago" turned 50 today and is doing just fine!  She 
had a lovely walk with her husband this afternoon, a fine dinner afterwards, 
and is hoping to do something wild and crazy with melted chocolate and 
strawberries later.  :-)



Seriously though, everything is fine--just really busy, but I have been 
reading posts now and then; I'm in semi-lurking mode!


Big cheers, Christine 




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Re: PESO - Bikespotting in Kensington Market

[ann sanfedele]

The toes really make that shot...  she is cute as a button as you say
ann

frank theriault wrote:


So my little photo shoot yesterday went fine.  In fact it was lots of
fun.  We talked to 11 people and 9 of them will be used in a full page
spread in the next issue.  I'm pretty excited about that and I'm quite
satisfied with what I got.  The article will be called Bikespotting.

Of course, what I submit will be colour, but I couldn't resist
converting a few.  I'll put together a little GESO over the next day
or so, but until then, this is one of my favorites.  I don't know her
name (the writer took all the notes, I just took the pictures), but
she was cute as a button:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/02/bikespotting-in-kensington-market.html

Scroll down and click on photo to enlarge.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank


 





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Re: PESO - Bike Parking at Night

[ann sanfedele]

Adam Maas wrote:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/mawz/4384094299/

K-x, DA 18-55 II, ISO 6400, No NR whatsoever (RAW with NR turned off
in CaptureOne).



adam --  nice shot -- and wow 6400?
now I'm going to start coveting again.

ann



 





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Re: Anyone else ...

[Bob Sullivan]

or grading mid-terms...

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:19 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:08 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> ... wonder where the wild child from Chicago has got to?
>>
>> Noticed Cristina hasn't been on list for a while. Hope she's doing ok.
>
> I too have noticed.  I'm sure she's just out being wild.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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RE: On FF and other "must have" features

[Bob W]

> >> > Piss off little roo eater. <;-)
> >>
> >> Hehehe...
> >>
> >> Haven't had roo in a few months.
> >
> > I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up 
> > with some egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't 
> do it again 
> > though - it kept coming back on me.
> 
> Nice try but, that's a boomerang joke.
> 

See - it's come back on me again. I knew I'd rue it.



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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[Bob Sullivan]

Well, I suppose 53 is better.  Maybe we could annex and make it Greater Maine.
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> Shouldn't it be a prime number? You know, one nation under God, indivisible?
>
>>
>> Are there people who live up there?
>> Ok 54th state, the flag would look better with 54 stars.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:57 PM, frank theriault
>>  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bob Sullivan
>>  wrote:
>> >> What the hell Ken.  Be generous.  Give them 3 states, 51st for the
>> >> Frenchies, 52nd for Ontario, and 53rd for the west.
>> >> Regards,  Bob S.
>> >
>> > You'll want the east coast, too.  You can never have too
>> many Maines...
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Re: On FF and other "must have" features

[David Savage]

On 26 February 2010 08:01, Bob W  wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> > Piss off little roo eater. <;-)
>>
>> Hehehe...
>>
>> Haven't had roo in a few months.
>
> I tried a recipe with it a few weeks ago. Shredded it, mixed it up with some
> egg whites and sugar, made a roo meringue. Won't do it again though - it
> kept coming back on me.

Nice try but, that's a boomerang joke.

DS

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Re: PESO - Young Man Wearing a Hat

[Steven Desjardins]

Nice hat and awesome "brows"  ;-)

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:44 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> A "street portrait":
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/young-man-wearing-hat.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame

[David Savage]

On 26 February 2010 06:55, frank theriault  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>
>> you forgot to add "Canada becomming the 51 st state" !
>
> "...we shall fight on the beaches

I've seen Canadian beaches.

They're not worth fighting over.

:-D

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