RE: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread Tanya Love
ROFL!!  That's a good one Bob!!

Tan. :)

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OMG Larry,
Use it as a walking stick and get on with it.
Next you're gonna want a Batman belt!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I went for a walk in the woods after work tonight.  Being around 
 sunset it was getting dark, especially under the trees and I wished 
 I'd had my monopod with me. I was trying to think of a convenient way 
 to carry it, when I wasn't using it and think that some sort of a holster
on a belt might work.
 Has anyone used something like this:
 http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-
 Flashlights
 to carry a monopod?



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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread Larry Colen


On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


OMG Larry,
Use it as a walking stick and get on with it.
Next you're gonna want a Batman belt!


What do you mean next?

I've been wanting a Batman belt for almost 45 years, the only thing  
that changes is what I'd carry in it.



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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:



Here's how to be a real chansonnier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyqIs8xPCd0

And a cover for the youngsters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wTPb5-Lf40feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfKGoP6KEpwfeature=related

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Re: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:



But no new toys for a while... :o(


It's happening everywhere.  I was one of the fortunate few not to be 
called to a meeting yesterday.


You could start a new career as Bob the gentleman burglar, only 
targetting the robber barons who are running the country these days. 
They wouldn't miss the odd Ferrari or shooting lodge in Scotland.


There's a big movement afoot in education to outsource the IT 
maintenance provision.  It would mean working with teachers but you 
would be able to fleece them for years before they caught on.


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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Jeffery Smith wrote:

While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who might want a 
bit better digital camera, what is the  verdict on the Pentax K-x? Does anyone 
on the forum have and use one?


Yes.  Buy it.

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Long lens updates [Scanned]

2010-05-01 Thread John Whittingham
Sigma has the following lenses now officially available in Pentax fit:

300mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM, 500mm f/4.5 EX DG HSM

I wonder how long before we get the option of the following:

800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM  300-800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM

John
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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Larry Colen wrote:

I went for a walk in the woods after work tonight.  Being around  sunset 
it was getting dark, especially under the trees and I wished  I'd had my 
monopod with me. I was trying to think of a convenient way  to carry it, 
when I wasn't using it and think that some sort of a  holster on a belt 
might work. Has anyone used something like this:
http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-Flashlights 


to carry a monopod?


I have a two-section one that multitasks as a stick and mugger-deterrer, 
as if I do not manage that adequately myself.


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Re: Firmware updates

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Rob Studdert wrote:


On 01/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


I haven't seen anyone mention this, but there seem to be frimware updates
for the K20, K200, K2000, and K10 as of April 22.  the K20 version is up to
1.04...



There was actually a K-x firmware update also, all mulled over on DPR.


Higher than 1.01?

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Re: The New Life: Part II (new skin)

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Roman Melihhov wrote:

http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100430162536
^^^ its a Grass Snake to the lover of repltiles in you...


Interesting.  Here, halfway up the UK, I am at the northern limit of 
this snake, yet you are much further north than me.  An excellent portrait.


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley

On 2010-04-30 18:23 , Rob Studdert wrote:

On 01/05/2010, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com  wrote:

[snip]


BTW your mailer seems to continuously break/confuse threads, your
reply to me appeared in a thread of the same name that was running
concurrently (as it was originally split due to another misbehaving
mailer app I suspect).


Joseph's email had a correct In-reply-to: header, so i'd blame it on 
gmail barring any further evidence





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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley

On 2010-04-30 17:29 , Rob Studdert wrote:

On 01/05/2010, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com  wrote:


Most likely because you or your son captured much of the artwork using a
third party utility, or browsing Google and various bands websites. When you
re-synched, iTunes, which only uses Apples own database, and Amazon's (from
two years ago) went out and checked on all the artwork at those sites, and
deleted the rest as being not recognized.


This is such a perfect example of just what has been being said by so
many in this thread. It's their way or nothing is the Apple paradigm.


it's a really bad example, since that feature is an option; it may be 
too helpful in the default, but the default is for people who buy tracks 
from Apple and rip their own CDs without tweaking the track names; not 
everything about iTunes suits me but it is one of Apple's more 
configurable apps and it's also one of the few with a comprehensive 
AppleScript implementation



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Re: Firmware updates

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/05/2010, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Rob Studdert wrote:

  On 01/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
   I haven't seen anyone mention this, but there seem to be frimware
 updates
   for the K20, K200, K2000, and K10 as of April 22.  the K20 version is up
 to
   1.04...
  
 
 
  There was actually a K-x firmware update also, all mulled over on DPR.
 

 Higher than 1.01?

Yes and no. It definitely contains new code but the primary revision
number remains the same (you can see the different version number
using Photome)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35030899

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Re: Firmware updates

2010-05-01 Thread David Mann
I remember it was mentioned the other day.  I updated my K10D the other day.  
Don't think the update was actually necessary for me but what the hey...

Dave

On May 1, 2010, at 3:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 I haven't seen anyone mention this, but there seem to be frimware updates for 
 the K20, K200, K2000, and K10 as of April 22.  the K20 version is up to 
 1.04...
 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/05/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 it's a really bad example, since that feature is an option; it may be too
 helpful in the default, but the default is for people who buy tracks from
 Apple and rip their own CDs without tweaking the track names; not everything
 about iTunes suits me but it is one of Apple's more configurable apps and
 it's also one of the few with a comprehensive AppleScript implementation

I work in radio stations, we don't use iTunes and never will but we
create buckets of audio files. Being forced to use an app like iTunes
sucks and is very indicative of Apples general behaviour IMO.

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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/1 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
 Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
 The what?
 Stick with ballparks.

There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.

Jostein

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RE: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
  Here's how to be a real chansonnier:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyqIs8xPCd0
  
  And a cover for the youngsters:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wTPb5-Lf40feature=related
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfKGoP6KEpwfeature=related
 

Géniale!



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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 30/4/10, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:


The one thing I really, really dislike about the Mac is the
obnoxious attitude of Mac zealots who insist that their way
of doing things is *obviously* the one true way.

But it *is*.

Amen.

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RE: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 
 It's happening everywhere.  I was one of the fortunate few 
 not to be called to a meeting yesterday.
 
 You could start a new career as Bob the gentleman burglar, 
 only targetting the robber barons who are running the country 
 these days. 
 They wouldn't miss the odd Ferrari or shooting lodge in Scotland.
 
 There's a big movement afoot in education to outsource the IT 
 maintenance provision.  It would mean working with teachers 
 but you would be able to fleece them for years before they caught on.

I've considered that, but they will be outsourcing it to the big boys, not
to one man and his dog.



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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 
 The one thing I really, really dislike about the Mac is the 
 obnoxious 
 attitude of Mac zealots who insist that their way of doing things is 
 *obviously* the one true way.
 
 But it *is*.
 
 Amen.

Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition. As
you might expect.





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RE: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
  
 http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-
  Flashlights
  
  to carry a monopod?
 
 I have a two-section one that multitasks as a stick and 
 mugger-deterrer, as if I do not manage that adequately myself.

Make  model?



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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread John Coyle
I started with computers in 1982, when the hot PC's were Commodore 64's and
Amiga's, with the TRS-80 the hobbyist machine.  The first business PC's I
used were the HP86A and then the HP desktop, complete with 128k of RAM (64k
built-in plus 64k plug-in module), and a 5.25in floppy for storage.  Teamed
with a daisy-wheel printer and Lotus 1-2-3 v1a, I did project costs and
revenue forecasts which took 45 minutes to print out one page on A3 paper! 
Next came an IBM PC, which was better specified and by then HDD's were
standard, but usually only 5-10MB in size.  1984, the Lisa came out and I
loved it - but: it cost, IIRC, $9000 when a PC from IBM with MS-DOS cost
only $5-6000, and by then I had supervised the installation of over 100 PC's
in the company I worked for.  Given the then lack of commercial software
compared with MS-DOS machines, it was a no-brainer to stay with MS, and by
then too MS users had access to very capable programs for WP, spreadsheet
and database creation.  Had Apple, when they moved on from the Lisa to the
Macintosh, not lost to the MS model in the commercial world, they might now
be dominating that market, but they would have had to be as open to
third-party developers as MS is (although that openness can be problematic,
as we all know).  

I stayed away from the early versions of Windows, not using it until 3.11,
which was relatively stable and usable: I'd concede it took a while to get
used to, not in using the mouse, but in working out how to do things I had
been used to doing from the command line.  I will still use the command line
for some tasks, such as a multi-file selective move or copy, and for a fast
and efficient search using parameters with output to a file or printer,
which are near impossible to do in Windows (unless perhaps you write a
script, which probably takes more time than using the command line).
It's, I think, a matter of fact that commercial users went the PC way
because of IBM: for a long time it was said in IT that you can't get fired
for buying IBM: the MS-DOS-based software suites such as Lotus and Symphony
were comprehensive and relatively easy to use, worked well, and could be
sourced from multiple retailers at competitive prices if they didn't come
pre-installed.  Mac's made it in the print and graphics world mainly I think
because they undoubtedly had a good interface for that type of work, and
they were much faster in rendering graphics for a very long time.

Nowadays, all of my clients use Windows in various versions, and Office in
versions from 97 onwards: backwards compatibility is much better than it
used to be, MS has learnt the lesson from Excel 3 to 4, when every macro had
to be re-written, an absolute nightmare which kept me away from Excel for
years (macros I wrote in 1982 for Lotus 1-2-3 still run in the latest
version I use, which is quite remarkable).

I think it just has to be accepted that unless Microsoft and Windows will
dominate the commercial and home use markets for many years to come because
it's now much too hard for companies and people to make the change: the
costs in re-training and replacing hardware and legacy software would be
unacceptable. 


John in Brisbane



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Brian Walters
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Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:49 -0500, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
  Apple is very good at making it easy to do the things that they think
you
  should do. It can be very challenging however if you think differently.
 
 While this is a fairly obvious troll line, I must respectfully disagree.
 Anyone who lived through (and with) the popularization of computers
 among the masses must remember what it was like to learn DOS and to be
 fumbling through a manual to learn the cryptic command that one must
 type (without syntax errors) to accomplish ANYTHING before the
 Macintosh. In contrast, upon seeing the first Macintosh running in an
 Office supply store without knowing anything at all about it, one
 could walk up... grab the single button mouse (which I had never seen
 before) and it was immediately OBVIOUS what one would do with it.
 Click, select, drag. One could easily learn to use both applications
 MacWrite and MacPaint without ever cracking a book. It was a paradigm
 changer: a computer which worked virtually as you thought it should.
 
 Apple's Macintosh Interface Guidelines brought a certain sanity to the
 user. You didn't need to learn a different location for the menu
 command to open a file, or quit a program, or print. Or to close a
 window, etc. This made learning a new program so much easier as there
 were commonalities to the basic functions, for those programs that
 stuck to the Guidelines. By any objective standard Apple has made it's
 reputation on the opposite of what 

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
I was filming a report on UK soldiers returning home to barracks from
Afghanistan the other day. We had to shoot and edit and then send from a
network news satellite truck. The reporter asked me if I had my [Mac]
edit kit along, and I always do. She asked if I wouldn't mind editing
the piece as well because her Avid [Newscutter on a PC Laptop] was
always crashing.

I shot the piece and edited it and we sent with a few minutes to spare.

The above seems like a cut and dried Macfanboy 'howzat' but actually if
one digs a bit beneath the surface, things aren't so ipso facto.

The reporter barely knows how to use the laptop which is serviced and
updated by the IT guys once in a blue moon. I am a contractor who knows
his kit and operations inside out. Of course mine doesn't crash and hers does.

If she had the Mac and I had the Windows, she would have asked the same
thing, and I would have shot and edited and the result would have been
the same.

It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how
competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to
achieve the required result.

(That said, if it's shiny and has an Apple on it, I'll still buy it.)

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/5/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition. As
you might expect.

You've not had the iCushion treatment?

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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread eckinator
2010/5/1 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 I went for a walk in the woods after work tonight.  Being around sunset it
 was getting dark, especially under the trees and I wished I'd had my monopod
 with me. I was trying to think of a convenient way to carry it, when I
 wasn't using it and think that some sort of a holster on a belt might work.
 Has anyone used something like this:
 http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-Flashlights
 to carry a monopod?

No but I can somewhat see this as being a good idea - I see five-0
using these and the Mags seem to hang sufficiently low. Just make sure
it is thick enough so it doesn't slip out, you are looking at kind of
a big opening. Personally, I have an R-Strap and just leave the
monopod dangling underneath the camera with the ballhead unlocked. It
swings a bit when I walk but doesn't knock my knee, only downside is
the ballhead scratches a bit where the neck of the camera plate rub
on the upper edge of the ball cage whatever the tech term for that
part is. Kirk has such a contraption on a separate belt but it costs
an arm and a leg. You could also just find a suitable carbine hook and
attach it to the belt loops of your pants.
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread eckinator
2010/5/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition.

As conducted by Paul iNquist?

Cheers
Ecke

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Re: The New Life: Part II (new skin)

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/5/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Here, halfway up the UK, I am at the northern limit of
this snake,

Holy Mary that's a long snake!!!

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Re: This looks like a must have for folks going to GFM

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 30/4/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2639451/294218458/name/RedGreensHolder%2Ewmv

Thanks Larry, best laugh of the day

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Re: This looks like a must have for folks going to GFM

2010-05-01 Thread eckinator
2010/5/1 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2639451/294218458/name/RedGreensHolder%2Ewmv

And it will even fit into your
http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-Flashlights
Go get two!!!
ROFLMAO
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/5/10, Tanya Love, discombobulated, unleashed:

Let's hope there's something more exciting to see!

Start your own webcam service and we might have some interesting competition!

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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 I think it just has to be accepted that unless Microsoft and 
 Windows will dominate the commercial and home use markets for 
 many years to come because it's now much too hard for 
 companies and people to make the change: the costs in 
 re-training and replacing hardware and legacy software would 
 be unacceptable. 

I don't think they'll dominate the home market for much longer. At that
level the boxes are now largely the same - the web is the great unifier -
and the boxes will become like any other appliance. As long as people can
connect wirelessly to the web, download music, games, video, use email, show
pictures and swap files with work the rest is determined by looks, price,
cool and similar factors, not by the criteria that professional techies
think are important.

The commercial market is different because apart from highly specialised
machines you have to take the cookie cutter approach and consider the costs
and ease of mass use. The bank that recently sold us on had an estate of
over 40,000 desktop machines, several 1,000s of laptops and 1,000s of
servers in several datacentres to maintain  integrate just in the UK; the
company which bought us and is now getting rid of us, has a similar estate
spread around the world. Maintaining and supporting that, along with the
networks that pull it all together, is a very difficult and costly exercise.
Over the years Microsoft have targeted that very successfully and I don't
believe Apple is ever likely even to try to break into it. 

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/05/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how
 competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to
 achieve the required result.

Thank dog someone has finally said it!

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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread David Parsons
I use the side loop on my AW200 Sling bag to store my monopod.  Keeps
it nicely out of the way, and always accessible.

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 I went for a walk in the woods after work tonight.  Being around sunset it
 was getting dark, especially under the trees and I wished I'd had my monopod
 with me. I was trying to think of a convenient way to carry it, when I
 wasn't using it and think that some sort of a holster on a belt might work.
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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 
  It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with 
  how competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system 
 and knowing 
  how to achieve the required result.
 
 Thank dog someone has finally said it!
 

That's just a variant of blame the user for the programmers' failure. I
know that everytime we think we've made something idiot-proof they bring out
a better idiot, BUT, most people are not like us and they don't want to have
to nurture their pc like a rare orchid, or know all sorts of stuff to make
it work. 

The designers of these things have a responsibility to make them work in
their target environment - the normal home that's full of normal people -
and they are failing miserably in this. People have become so used to the
idea of PCs as mysteriously unfathomable things that are prone to apparently
random failures that destroy all their data, that people believe it's
inevitable. But it isn't. It is possible to design systems that switch on
quickly, protect your documents, pictures, music, video, games and so on,
make the technicalities invisible to the average end user, prevent virus
attacks, recover invisibly if they do succeed. It's the manufacturers and
designers who have failed to do this, not the end users.

Apple try to fool people into thinking their products are like this (it
just works), but evidently this is not the case. They're no better, and no
worse, than Microsoft, Linux etc.

I don't have to know anything about electronics to have a TV, stereo or
radio, a gas boiler, a washing machine etc. The same should apply to home
computers, which are for most people nowadays just another appliance.

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For Sale Friday

2010-05-01 Thread Bill Sawyer
Sorry, I missed the cutoff by a bit.

SMC Pentax F  AF Adapter 1.7X

I have one of these that I am selling.  I bought it about 12 years ago as
'new old stock.' Since then, I might have used it a dozen times at most. I
just don't think about it when I pack my camera bag.

It's like new, with caps, carry bag, even the original plastic bags. The box
is a bit faded from sitting on the shelf for so long, but that's the only
wear. It deserves a home where it will be appreciated more.

If anyone is interested, please email me offline. 

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Re: Peso Back yard deer

2010-05-01 Thread Walter Hamler
 Well, Nothing runs like a Deere.

or smells like a John!

Walt

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Re: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
Well done, I'd say. Good looking bird.
Paul


On May 1, 2010, at 1:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Thanks, Dan. I hadn't done a Trap Focus since my MZ-S. Kind of a Lark!
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:25 PM
 Very nice capture!
 
 Dan
 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 Well, he's so temperamental he refuses to work with
 me. Spoiled!!
 This is a Trap Focus with the lens set on MF and the
 body AF-S. Shutter won't release unless in focus..as I'm
 sure you know. Check it's beak and head ares which will
 indicate sharp focus in that area. Their feathers are so
 fine, they're difficult to pick up as fine detail.
 The lens was set at 65mm (not 135mm) and I could have
 been even closer. The full size file holds more detail.
 Thanks for comments, Larry.
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:14 PM
 On 4/30/2010 4:05 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
 That's better.
 
 Now I see it.
 
 First of all, who said you could post pictures
 when there
 are more
 important religious arguments to discuss?
 
 Lovely colors, and quite reasonably sharp
 especially at (at
 most) 135mm,
 but not so sharp as to negate any excuses for
 longer glass.
 Maybe you
 focused just slightly in front of it?
 No matter, I'd be chuffed to get a bird picture
 that clear
 myself.
 
 Rather than square format, I'd crop a bit off the
 right
 side for a
 portrait format putting the eye at the right 1/3
 axis
 rather than the
 center axis, though cropping the left may work as
 well and
 still show
 some of that pretty blue sky through the trees in
 the
 background.
 
 Perhaps for your next shot, you could get him to
 pose
 facing the other
 direction.
 
 
 
 On 4/30/2010 6:57 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
 Subject: PESO: Catch-In-Focus
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:48
 PM
 Finch Food Feeded Focus Fun!
 
 Comments?
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=498
 
 K20, DA* 50~...@65mm, f/8, 1/250, ISO
 200,
 Cable switch
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Re: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:39 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 One of the fascinating aspects of long-term participation in the PDML is
 the
 soap opera aspect - reading and hearing about the changes in everyone's
 lives - marriages, babies, house moves, illnesses, work and so on. In the
 time I've been on it I have had about 7 different jobs, mainly contracts.
 For the last 5 years I've been in the same job, but for 3 different
 companies as a result of mergers and acquisitions.
 
 Well, the long-trailed process of redundancy finally began today with a
 meeting of all of us who are 'at risk of redundancy'. They have to follow
 a
 clearly-defined process but some time in the next 2-6 weeks I'll be
 available again.
 
 Fortunately I have 5 years of continuity and we have a good redundancy
 package, so I will come away with about 7 months' pay, of which 5 are
 tax-free. With modest outgoings, no debts other than a relatively low
 mortgage, some small savings, and with even my holiday already paid for,
 it'll be a while before the wolf's at the door so I'm not bothered about
 it
 yet.
 
 But no new toys for a while... :o(
 
 Bob
 
 

Allow me to add my best wishes to those already expressed - hope all
works out as you would like.

I've been twice redundant during my career.  The last time it was
offered, my 60th birthday was a matter of weeks away and my hand was up
in a flash.  One downside to enforced free time, though, is that you
discover all of the odd jobs that you've tactfully ignored in the past. 
Eventually you run out of excuses.



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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist

On May 1, 2010, at 5:35 AM, John Coyle wrote:

 I started with computers in 1982, when the hot PC's were Commodore 64's and
 Amiga's, with the TRS-80 the hobbyist machine.  

You must have been half asleep, if you missed Apple //e. I was working in NY as 
a journalist, and anyone who could afford to spend more than a pittance worked 
with a //e and 128k of ram. As far back as 1978, the Apple // was a hot seller 
for serious users, as it was the machine that ran Visicalc. Apple actually had 
a substantial business market at the time but didn't pursuit it down the line. 

 The first business PC's I
 used were the HP86A and then the HP desktop, complete with 128k of RAM (64k
 built-in plus 64k plug-in module), and a 5.25in floppy for storage.  Teamed
 with a daisy-wheel printer and Lotus 1-2-3 v1a, I did project costs and
 revenue forecasts which took 45 minutes to print out one page on A3 paper! 
 Next came an IBM PC, which was better specified and by then HDD's were
 standard, but usually only 5-10MB in size.  1984, the Lisa came out and I
 loved it - but: it cost, IIRC, $9000 when a PC from IBM with MS-DOS cost
 only $5-6000, and by then I had supervised the installation of over 100 PC's
 in the company I worked for.  Given the then lack of commercial software
 compared with MS-DOS machines, it was a no-brainer to stay with MS, and by
 then too MS users had access to very capable programs for WP, spreadsheet
 and database creation.  Had Apple, when they moved on from the Lisa to the
 Macintosh, not lost to the MS model in the commercial world, they might now
 be dominating that market, but they would have had to be as open to
 third-party developers as MS is (although that openness can be problematic,
 as we all know).  
 
 I stayed away from the early versions of Windows, not using it until 3.11,
 which was relatively stable and usable: I'd concede it took a while to get
 used to, not in using the mouse, but in working out how to do things I had
 been used to doing from the command line.  I will still use the command line
 for some tasks, such as a multi-file selective move or copy, and for a fast
 and efficient search using parameters with output to a file or printer,
 which are near impossible to do in Windows (unless perhaps you write a
 script, which probably takes more time than using the command line).
 It's, I think, a matter of fact that commercial users went the PC way
 because of IBM: for a long time it was said in IT that you can't get fired
 for buying IBM: the MS-DOS-based software suites such as Lotus and Symphony
 were comprehensive and relatively easy to use, worked well, and could be
 sourced from multiple retailers at competitive prices if they didn't come
 pre-installed.  Mac's made it in the print and graphics world mainly I think
 because they undoubtedly had a good interface for that type of work, and
 they were much faster in rendering graphics for a very long time.
 
 Nowadays, all of my clients use Windows in various versions, and Office in
 versions from 97 onwards: backwards compatibility is much better than it
 used to be, MS has learnt the lesson from Excel 3 to 4, when every macro had
 to be re-written, an absolute nightmare which kept me away from Excel for
 years (macros I wrote in 1982 for Lotus 1-2-3 still run in the latest
 version I use, which is quite remarkable).
 
 I think it just has to be accepted that unless Microsoft and Windows will
 dominate the commercial and home use markets for many years to come because
 it's now much too hard for companies and people to make the change: the
 costs in re-training and replacing hardware and legacy software would be
 unacceptable. 
 
 
 John in Brisbane
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Brian Walters
 Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 8:29 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
 
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:49 -0500, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 Apple is very good at making it easy to do the things that they think
 you
 should do. It can be very challenging however if you think differently.
 
 While this is a fairly obvious troll line, I must respectfully disagree.
 Anyone who lived through (and with) the popularization of computers
 among the masses must remember what it was like to learn DOS and to be
 fumbling through a manual to learn the cryptic command that one must
 type (without syntax errors) to accomplish ANYTHING before the
 Macintosh. In contrast, upon seeing the first Macintosh running in an
 Office supply store without knowing anything at all about it, one
 could walk up... grab the single button mouse (which I had never seen
 before) and it was immediately OBVIOUS what one would do with it.
 Click, select, drag. One could easily learn to use both applications
 MacWrite and MacPaint without ever cracking a book. It was a paradigm
 changer: 

Re: Peso Catching Rays

2010-05-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:02 -0400, P N Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10962159size=lg
 
 DA*60-250, f14 @ 1/60th, ISO 200, 170mm
 


Very nice composition and beautiful colours.



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Re: Long lens updates [Scanned]

2010-05-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
And I wonder about the 120-300/2,8.

It's supposed to be a h*** of a zoom lens.
I'm told it is good enough to give quality images with a 1,4 TC.

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2010/5/1 John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk:
 Sigma has the following lenses now officially available in Pentax fit:

 300mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM, 500mm f/4.5 EX DG HSM

 I wonder how long before we get the option of the following:

 800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM  300-800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist

On May 1, 2010, at 5:43 AM, eckinator wrote:

 2010/5/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 
 Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition.
 
 As conducted by Paul iNquist?
 
I am frequently asked to provide that service. I have a room in the basement 
set up specifically for the punishment phase.

 Cheers
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Re: Peso Back yard deer

2010-05-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:53 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Even though there is construction in town, we live close enough to
 farms and bush areas.
 
 Deer have popped into our back yard before, but never before the
 garden had been planted.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10960333
 
 He stood still long enough to get this.
 


Har!!


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Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try

2010-05-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:43 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Made another try at my favorite Red Wing Black Bird hunting location
 early this AM. Light was from a more helpful direction at that hour, plus
 I was packing an AF540 flash with a VISUAL flash extender. Using K20
 w/DA55~300.
 
 Am attaching three shots wherein I was actually able to bring out some
 feather detail. With the bright sky behind most all attempts, even in
 spot metering mode, shutter had been too fast for anything much beyond a
 silhouette. 
 
 With the ability to throw some light on my side and at ISO 200, I, also,
 had a little shutter speed to combat a gusty 20 mph wind.
 
 I still consider this a work in progress.
 
 Comment at will.
 
 Jack
 
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=495
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=496
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=497



Yes - definitely better detail in the feathers.  I don't think the birds
have given you the best composition yet but it looks like you might get
more opportunities.



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RE: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 
 Allow me to add my best wishes to those already expressed - 
 hope all works out as you would like.
 

Thanks Brian. Although I've known for months that it's coming I haven't yet
thought much about what I want

 I've been twice redundant during my career. 

This is my 3rd time. Last time I was made redundant I used the money to fund
my mid-life crisis.

 The last time it 
 was offered, my 60th birthday was a matter of weeks away and 
 my hand was up in a flash.  One downside to enforced free 
 time, though, is that you discover all of the odd jobs that 
 you've tactfully ignored in the past. 
 Eventually you run out of excuses.
 

Indeed - I can see a ton of things that need doing. What I would like though
is to start another paying job as soon as I can so that I can use the
redundancy money to pay for all the work that needs doing on my house,
before it falls down, with just enough left over for an M9. I've always
thought of the phrase A stitch in time saves nine as something that
applies to other people, not me.

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Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)

2010-05-01 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:57 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 
 
 --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  Subject: PESO: Catch-In-Focus
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:48 PM
  Finch Food Feeded Focus Fun!
  
  Comments?
  


That's an excellent advertisement for 'catch-in-focus', a technique that
I've been vaguely aware of but never tried.

Time to give it a go!


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Re: This looks like a must have for folks going to GFM

2010-05-01 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/1 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
 2010/5/1 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2639451/294218458/name/RedGreensHolder%2Ewmv

 And it will even fit into your
 http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-Flashlights
 Go get two!!!

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Re: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)

2010-05-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul! Ya gotta' be looking for something photographic to do. |=O

Jack

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 From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 4:47 AM
 Well done, I'd say. Good looking
 bird.
 Paul
 
 
 On May 1, 2010, at 1:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Thanks, Dan. I hadn't done a Trap Focus since my MZ-S.
 Kind of a Lark!
  
  Jack
  
  --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
  From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:25 PM
  Very nice capture!
  
  Dan
  
  On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  Well, he's so temperamental he refuses to work
 with
  me. Spoiled!!
  This is a Trap Focus with the lens set on MF
 and the
  body AF-S. Shutter won't release unless in
 focus..as I'm
  sure you know. Check it's beak and head ares which
 will
  indicate sharp focus in that area. Their feathers
 are so
  fine, they're difficult to pick up as fine
 detail.
  The lens was set at 65mm (not 135mm) and I
 could have
  been even closer. The full size file holds more
 detail.
  Thanks for comments, Larry.
  
  Jack
  
  --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
  wrote:
  
  From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
  Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE
 DO)
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:14 PM
  On 4/30/2010 4:05 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:
  That's better.
  
  Now I see it.
  
  First of all, who said you could post
 pictures
  when there
  are more
  important religious arguments to discuss?
  
  Lovely colors, and quite reasonably sharp
  especially at (at
  most) 135mm,
  but not so sharp as to negate any excuses
 for
  longer glass.
  Maybe you
  focused just slightly in front of it?
  No matter, I'd be chuffed to get a bird
 picture
  that clear
  myself.
  
  Rather than square format, I'd crop a bit
 off the
  right
  side for a
  portrait format putting the eye at the
 right 1/3
  axis
  rather than the
  center axis, though cropping the left may
 work as
  well and
  still show
  some of that pretty blue sky through the
 trees in
  the
  background.
  
  Perhaps for your next shot, you could get
 him to
  pose
  facing the other
  direction.
  
  
  
  On 4/30/2010 6:57 PM, Jack Davis
 wrote:
  
  --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Jack
 Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
  From: Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
  Subject: PESO: Catch-In-Focus
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail
 Listpdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, April 30, 2010,
 3:48
  PM
  Finch Food Feeded Focus Fun!
  
  Comments?
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=498
  
  K20, DA* 50~...@65mm, f/8,
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 I was filming a report on UK soldiers returning home to barracks from
 Afghanistan the other day. We had to shoot and edit and then send from a
 network news satellite truck. The reporter asked me if I had my [Mac]
 edit kit along, and I always do. She asked if I wouldn't mind editing
 the piece as well because her Avid [Newscutter on a PC Laptop] was
 always crashing.

 I shot the piece and edited it and we sent with a few minutes to spare.

 The above seems like a cut and dried Macfanboy 'howzat' but actually if
 one digs a bit beneath the surface, things aren't so ipso facto.

 The reporter barely knows how to use the laptop which is serviced and
 updated by the IT guys once in a blue moon. I am a contractor who knows
 his kit and operations inside out. Of course mine doesn't crash and hers does.

 If she had the Mac and I had the Windows, she would have asked the same
 thing, and I would have shot and edited and the result would have been
 the same.

 It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how
 competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to
 achieve the required result.

 (That said, if it's shiny and has an Apple on it, I'll still buy it.)

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Re: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/1/2010 5:28 AM, Bob W wrote:

It's happening everywhere.  I was one of the fortunate few
not to be called to a meeting yesterday.

You could start a new career as Bob the gentleman burglar,
only targetting the robber barons who are running the country
these days.
They wouldn't miss the odd Ferrari or shooting lodge in Scotland.

There's a big movement afoot in education to outsource the IT
maintenance provision.  It would mean working with teachers
but you would be able to fleece them for years before they caught on.
 

I've considered that, but they will be outsourcing it to the big boys, not
to one man and his dog.
   


Make the dog your vice president, and build a corporate structure that's 
visible on the internet.  Then underbid.




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RE: Long lens updates [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

2010-05-01 Thread John Whittingham
That sounds impressive, I'm still pondering over the 120-400 4.5-5.6 APO for a 
long range zoom. Currently using the DA 300 with rear converters (1.4, 1.5  
1.7) but it's not ideal, not sure the Sigma 120-400 would be any better but at 
least SR would work at 400mm and maybe AF would be better.

John

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And I wonder about the 120-300/2,8.

It's supposed to be a h*** of a zoom lens.
I'm told it is good enough to give quality images with a 1,4 TC.

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2010/5/1 John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk:
 Sigma has the following lenses now officially available in Pentax fit:

 300mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM, 500mm f/4.5 EX DG HSM

 I wonder how long before we get the option of the following:

 800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM  300-800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM

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Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)

2010-05-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Brian! You probably know exactly how to do such, but start off with 
Custom Function #34.(I forgot about that initially). Use either a MF A lens 
or a AF with a MF option switch and AF-S focus.

Jack
--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Catch-In-Focus (RE DO)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:24 AM
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:57 -0700,
 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  
  
  --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  
   From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
   Subject: PESO: Catch-In-Focus
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:48 PM
   Finch Food Feeded Focus Fun!
   
   Comments?
   
 
 
 That's an excellent advertisement for 'catch-in-focus', a
 technique that
 I've been vaguely aware of but never tried.
 
 Time to give it a go!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 Brian Walters
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Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try

2010-05-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Brian! I agree, to this point the composition has been limited to a 
heavy crop and keeping some high voltage stanchions and power lines out of the 
background.
I have been OK, however, with the wild clover and thistles.

Jack

--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:10 AM
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:43 -0700,
 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Made another try at my favorite Red Wing Black Bird
 hunting location
  early this AM. Light was from a more helpful direction
 at that hour, plus
  I was packing an AF540 flash with a VISUAL flash
 extender. Using K20
  w/DA55~300.
  
  Am attaching three shots wherein I was actually able
 to bring out some
  feather detail. With the bright sky behind most all
 attempts, even in
  spot metering mode, shutter had been too fast for
 anything much beyond a
  silhouette. 
  
  With the ability to throw some light on my side and at
 ISO 200, I, also,
  had a little shutter speed to combat a gusty 20 mph
 wind.
  
  I still consider this a work in progress.
  
  Comment at will.
  
  Jack
  
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=495
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=496
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=497
 
 
 
 Yes - definitely better detail in the feathers.  I
 don't think the birds
 have given you the best composition yet but it looks like
 you might get
 more opportunities.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 Brian Walters
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Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try

2010-05-01 Thread P N Stenquist
I like the third version best. Good detail for black feathers. That's  
always tough.

Paul
On May 1, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Brian! I agree, to this point the composition has been  
limited to a heavy crop and keeping some high voltage stanchions and  
power lines out of the background.

I have been OK, however, with the wild clover and thistles.

Jack

--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:


From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:10 AM
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:43 -0700,
Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Made another try at my favorite Red Wing Black Bird

hunting location

early this AM. Light was from a more helpful direction

at that hour, plus

I was packing an AF540 flash with a VISUAL flash

extender. Using K20

w/DA55~300.

Am attaching three shots wherein I was actually able

to bring out some

feather detail. With the bright sky behind most all

attempts, even in

spot metering mode, shutter had been too fast for

anything much beyond a

silhouette.

With the ability to throw some light on my side and at

ISO 200, I, also,

had a little shutter speed to combat a gusty 20 mph

wind.


I still consider this a work in progress.

Comment at will.

Jack


http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=495

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=496

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=497




Yes - definitely better detail in the feathers.  I
don't think the birds
have given you the best composition yet but it looks like
you might get
more opportunities.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Introduction

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
I'm used to digressing threads, though I rarely witness a Mac versus Windows 
battle any more. I use a Mac most of the time because I like the software 
available for it. It also allows me to very quickly filter all posts with the 
word Mac in them so I can drag and drop them to the trash can. I hope there 
was no Pentax content in them.

And cute kids photos can be more challenging than landscape. The subjects are 
easier to find, but harder to photograph.

I'm happy to see that I'm not the only geezer here. I'll be hitting 60 in three 
week. Scary.

Jeffery

On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

 Erm, welcome Jeffery!
 
 Do you receive the list emails or the digress, erm, digest?
 
 You will soon learn that this list is as much a battle of wits as it is a
 battle of Pentax enablement.
 
 Btw, I am Tanya, aka, fairygirl.  I am one of the few roses amongst the
 thorns, and also the baby of the bunch (I think?  I may have lost that title
 now though, as I am getting a bit
 long in the tooth these days).  Don't ask me why I have this weird habit of
 hanging out with a bunch of geeky old farts, but alas, here I am. 
 
 Btw, don't believe anything that Cotty tells you.  Just thought I'd repost
 what he'd already said, in case you didn't believe him. :)  I've met him in
 true life, and truly, he is NOT to be
 trusted!  I do love him though! :)  Oh, and don't trust anyone on the list
 who happens to be Welsh, plays really good guitar and makes a habit of
 taking really good hummingbird photos
 either! :)
 
 Oh, and when you hear of references to tattoos and medical photos in
 relation to me, ignore those too, it's all just some manufactured fairytale
 that Bill Robb concocted.
 
 I am an Aussie, and I use Pentax too, but I take photos of cute kids, and I
 totally suck at the nature and landscape stuff that most of the guys here
 tend to favour.  I am also
 here to prove that Pentax CAN be used by pro photographers.
 
 Lastly, don't post ANYTHING unless you are prepared for your thread to be
 hi-jacked with nonsensical drival, such as that displayed below!
 
 Tan.x.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob
 W
 Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 5:34 AM
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: Introduction
 
 
 There's always the PDML PUG ...
 
 
 Technically, it's just the PUG.
 
 That may be technically true, but if you just Google PUG you end up 
 with a lot of pictures of small yappy dogs...
 
 
 1) That is a Google issue.
 2) Pugs are not yappy dogs.
 
 
 Pug is also a bar/restaurant in Chiswick, London. I posted a photo from
 there many years ago.
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2000/dec/02/restaurants.restaurants
 
 It is so named because Hogarth lived in Chiswick and across the road from
 the restaurant there is a statue of him and his yappy dog.
 
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw meat 
in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its appearance. It 
had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour for dishwashers 
down here), but I think it's up and running again.

Jeffery


On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Thanks, Jeffery.
 
 Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans?  From the outside
 it looks like a miniature southern plantation house.  Inside, its pure
 Jersey diner.  It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear.
 
 Dan
 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton 
 Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the 
 diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a 
 shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through your 
 diner blog. I like it.
 
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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-01 0:33, Larry Colen wrote:


might work. Has anyone used something like this:
http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-Flashlights

to carry a monopod?


Most are too long to carry on your belt, IMO.  They end up banging 
around amidst your legs and are a threat to trip you.  Now, attach that 
same belt loop doohickey to your backpack, now you're getting somewhere. 
 My Bogen 3218 has a wrist loop.  I put a cheap carabiner clip onto 
that loop, and hook it to my backpack or camera bag.  Something to keep 
the bottom end up above knee level.  Or I leave the 400 lens attached to 
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Re: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

It's happening everywhere.  I was one of the fortunate few 
not to be called to a meeting yesterday.


You could start a new career as Bob the gentleman burglar, 
only targetting the robber barons who are running the country 
these days. 
They wouldn't miss the odd Ferrari or shooting lodge in Scotland.


There's a big movement afoot in education to outsource the IT 
maintenance provision.  It would mean working with teachers 
but you would be able to fleece them for years before they caught on.



I've considered that, but they will be outsourcing it to the big boys, not
to one man and his dog.


You really don't know academics (and I use that word extremely 
advisedly) at all


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Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try

2010-05-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Paul!  Also, thanks for your putting me on to the flash extender a 
few years back. (think it was you?).
Third set is my choice also.

Jack

--- On Sat, 5/1/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:26 AM
 I like the third version best. Good
 detail for black feathers. That's always tough.
 Paul
 On May 1, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Thanks, Brian! I agree, to this point the
 composition has been limited to a heavy crop and keeping
 some high voltage stanchions and power lines out of the
 background.
  I have been OK, however, with the wild clover and
 thistles.
  
  Jack
  
  --- On Sat, 5/1/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
  
  From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
  Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:10 AM
  On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:43 -0700,
  Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  Made another try at my favorite Red Wing Black
 Bird
  hunting location
  early this AM. Light was from a more helpful
 direction
  at that hour, plus
  I was packing an AF540 flash with a VISUAL
 flash
  extender. Using K20
  w/DA55~300.
  
  Am attaching three shots wherein I was
 actually able
  to bring out some
  feather detail. With the bright sky behind
 most all
  attempts, even in
  spot metering mode, shutter had been too fast
 for
  anything much beyond a
  silhouette.
  
  With the ability to throw some light on my
 side and at
  ISO 200, I, also,
  had a little shutter speed to combat a gusty
 20 mph
  wind.
  
  I still consider this a work in progress.
  
  Comment at will.
  
  Jack
  
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=495
  
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  Yes - definitely better detail in the
 feathers.  I
  don't think the birds
  have given you the best composition yet but it
 looks like
  you might get
  more opportunities.
  
  
  
  Cheers
  
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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:


http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-


Flashlights

to carry a monopod?


I have a two-section one that multitasks as a stick and 
mugger-deterrer, as if I do not manage that adequately myself.



Make  model?

Benbo Trekker as at the bottom of here.
http://www.patersonphotographic.com/benbo-tripods.htm

The head makes a reasonable handle, considering.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty

On 01/05/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how
 competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to
 achieve the required result.

On 1/5/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thank dog someone has finally said it!



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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling


The head makes a reasonable handle, considering.


Mark!

(they really are best taken completely out of context)




On 5/1/2010 10:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Bob W wrote:


http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-


Flashlights

to carry a monopod?


I have a two-section one that multitasks as a stick and 
mugger-deterrer, as if I do not manage that adequately myself.



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Benbo Trekker as at the bottom of here.
http://www.patersonphotographic.com/benbo-tripods.htm

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Re: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, as you say you may have time to revert the fortunes... So, I would 
only wish you find a new job swiftly and without much delay.


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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is really 
not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 2010/5/1 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
 Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
 The what?
 Stick with ballparks.
 
 There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)
 
 I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
 a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
 overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.
 
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling


Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
body with the zoom lens?


Marketing.



On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is really 
not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

   

2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:
 

Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
 

The what?
Stick with ballparks.
   

There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.

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Re: Introduction

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Hi Boris, it has been a long time since I saw your name. Perhaps you were/are 
on one of Stephen Gandy's forums? 

Jeffery


On May 1, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi, Jeffery. But I am thinking we're been introduced before, on another list. 
 I am glad you came about to owning fine Pentax gear. Thus, I should be 
 looking forward to your pictures.
 
 Boris
 
 
 
 On 4/29/2010 7:27 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my 
 first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in 
 the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my 
 Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 
 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday.
 
 I hope to be an asset on this forum.
 
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Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try

2010-05-01 Thread P N Stenquist
Yes, I'm a big fan of the flash extender. I use it for all bird and  
wildlife shoots. At the distances one encounters in those kind of  
shoots, you rarely get much more than a bit of fill, but that fill is  
very helpful.

Paul
On May 1, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks much, Paul!  Also, thanks for your putting me on to the flash  
extender a few years back. (think it was you?).

Third set is my choice also.

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:26 AM
I like the third version best. Good
detail for black feathers. That's always tough.
Paul
On May 1, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Thanks, Brian! I agree, to this point the

composition has been limited to a heavy crop and keeping
some high voltage stanchions and power lines out of the
background.

I have been OK, however, with the wild clover and

thistles.


Jack

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From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing Re-try
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:10 AM
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:43 -0700,
Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Made another try at my favorite Red Wing Black

Bird

hunting location

early this AM. Light was from a more helpful

direction

at that hour, plus

I was packing an AF540 flash with a VISUAL

flash

extender. Using K20

w/DA55~300.

Am attaching three shots wherein I was

actually able

to bring out some

feather detail. With the bright sky behind

most all

attempts, even in

spot metering mode, shutter had been too fast

for

anything much beyond a

silhouette.

With the ability to throw some light on my

side and at

ISO 200, I, also,

had a little shutter speed to combat a gusty

20 mph

wind.


I still consider this a work in progress.

Comment at will.

Jack


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Yes - definitely better detail in the

feathers.  I

don't think the birds
have given you the best composition yet but it

looks like

you might get
more opportunities.



Cheers

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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Figures.

On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 
 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
 body with the zoom lens?
 
 Marketing.
 
 
 
 On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
 body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is 
 really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.
 
 Jeffery
 
 On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
 
   
 2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:
 
 Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
 
 The what?
 Stick with ballparks.
   
 There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)
 
 I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
 a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
 overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.
 
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Like P.J. says it's Marketing.
You've got to learn to think of it as a special deal only available on
the colored bodies.
I'd like a yellow one please.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a
 colored body with the zoom lens?

 Marketing.



 On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a
 colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as
 it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

 Jeffery

 On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:



 2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:


 Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.


 The what?
 Stick with ballparks.


 There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

 I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
 a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
 overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.

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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 
 Thank dog someone has finally said it!
 
 
 
 As long as I've got Steve Jobs' skidmarks all over my nose, I'm happy.
 

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RE: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 Make the dog your vice president, and build a corporate 
 structure that's visible on the internet.  Then underbid.
 

That's not a bad idea.



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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/1/2010 11:24 AM, Bob W wrote:
 

Thank dog someone has finally said it!
   



As long as I've got Steve Jobs' skidmarks all over my nose, I'm happy.

 

Eeuughhh
   


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Re: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/1/2010 11:27 AM, Bob W wrote:

[...]
   

Make the dog your vice president, and build a corporate
structure that's visible on the internet.  Then underbid.

 

That's not a bad idea.
   


You can hire me as a consultant.  (No job to small, no fee to large).

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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread Anthony Farr
I'll second Bob's comment and recommend one of the Trek-Tech TrekPods:
http://www.trek-tech.com/products/trekpods.html

I have a TrekPod II which is the older, heavier design.  Like the
Benbo that Bob W recommended it has an upside down leg design,
thickest section at the bottom, which makes it super rigid even at its
tallest extension, 62.5 inches.  It's a terrific hiking staff that you
can really put a lot of weight into.  OTOH I wouldn't like to carry it
around town for fear of being accused of brandishing a club because
its shortest length is 47 inches.

regards, Anthony

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 Use it as a walking stick and get on with it.
 Next you're gonna want a Batman belt!
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RE: OT: Free, as in time

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 
  Make the dog your vice president, and build a corporate structure 
  that's visible on the internet.  Then underbid.
 
   
  That's not a bad idea.
 
 
 You can hire me as a consultant.  (No job to small, no fee to large).

OK - I'll pay you what I pay my dog.

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Re: Introduction

2010-05-01 Thread Boris Liberman
My recollection is that we discussed Pentax briefly 
off-Picture-A-Week-list.


Boris


On 5/1/2010 6:06 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

Hi Boris, it has been a long time since I saw your name. Perhaps you were/are 
on one of Stephen Gandy's forums?

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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread David J Brooks
Our major crack house, Henrys Cameras, has the body only about $20
less than with the kit lens.

Dave

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 Figures.

 On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:


 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a 
 colored body with the zoom lens?

 Marketing.



 On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a 
 colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as 
 it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

 Jeffery

 On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:


 2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:

 Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.

 The what?
 Stick with ballparks.

 There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

 I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
 a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
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Re: Carrying a monopd

2010-05-01 Thread Larry Colen


On May 1, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:


On 2010-05-01 0:33, Larry Colen wrote:


might work. Has anyone used something like this:
http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-Plain-Leather-Belt-Holster-for-D-Size-Flashlights

to carry a monopod?


Most are too long to carry on your belt, IMO.  They end up banging  
around amidst your legs and are a threat to trip you.  Now, attach  
that same belt loop doohickey to your backpack, now you're getting  
somewhere.  My Bogen 3218 has a wrist loop.  I put a cheap  
carabiner clip onto that loop, and hook it to my backpack or  
camera bag.  Something to keep the bottom end up above knee level.   
Or I leave the 400 lens attached to it and carry it crooked over  
my shoulder.


I've got a Benbo mc66 which is under 17 without the head. I  
specifically looked for one that I could carry inside my camera bag.


My goal for the holster is camera, fannypack and monopod.



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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling
It begins to sound like you should get the body with the kit lens, those 
usually sell for about $100 on ebay.  So you'll come out ahead.


On 5/1/2010 12:46 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Our major crack house, Henrys Cameras, has the body only about $20
less than with the kit lens.

Dave

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jeffery Smithjsmith...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Figures.

On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 

Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
body with the zoom lens?
 

Marketing.



On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
   

Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored 
body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is really 
not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:


 

2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:

   

Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.

   

The what?
Stick with ballparks.

 

There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.

Jostein

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RE: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

2010-05-01 Thread Tanya Love
Oh, man, there's one in every crowd!

:)

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On 1/5/10, Tanya Love, discombobulated, unleashed:

Let's hope there's something more exciting to see!

Start your own webcam service and we might have some interesting
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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Maas
It's the new DA L kit lens, not the mechanically better DA or DA II
version which are the ones which go for $100. Plastic mount, no hood
and no QSF, same optics as the DA II and WR versions though.

-Adam

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:00 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 It begins to sound like you should get the body with the kit lens, those
 usually sell for about $100 on ebay.  So you'll come out ahead.

 On 5/1/2010 12:46 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Our major crack house, Henrys Cameras, has the body only about $20
 less than with the kit lens.

 Dave

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jeffery Smithjsmith...@gmail.com
  wrote:


 Figures.

 On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:



 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a
 colored body with the zoom lens?


 Marketing.



 On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:


 Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a
 colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as
 it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

 Jeffery

 On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:




 2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:



 Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.



 The what?
 Stick with ballparks.



 There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

 I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
 a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
 overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.

 Jostein

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Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling

The uninitiated will still pay $100.00.

On 5/1/2010 1:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

It's the new DA L kit lens, not the mechanically better DA or DA II
version which are the ones which go for $100. Plastic mount, no hood
and no QSF, same optics as the DA II and WR versions though.

-Adam

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:00 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

It begins to sound like you should get the body with the kit lens, those
usually sell for about $100 on ebay.  So you'll come out ahead.

On 5/1/2010 12:46 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 

Our major crack house, Henrys Cameras, has the body only about $20
less than with the kit lens.

Dave

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jeffery Smithjsmith...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   

Figures.

On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:


 

Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a
colored body with the zoom lens?

 

Marketing.



On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

   

Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a
colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as
it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:



 

2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:


   

Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.


   

The what?
Stick with ballparks.


 

There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)

I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.

Jostein

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PESO - Saturday Morning at the Lake

2010-05-01 Thread frank theriault
Got down to the lake at the bottom of my street at about 8 this
morning.  The light was pretty cool.  I hope these aren't too dark,
but I like them this way:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-morning-at-lake.html

Features my first cormorant shot - called Dawn Patrol.

All shots with *istD/Sigma f3.5 50-200mm manual focus zoom/Manfrotto
monopod gasp!.

Hope you enjoy.

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Saturday Morning at the Lake

2010-05-01 Thread Jack Davis
I like your light choice in all three. Quiet and comfortable.

Jack

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 Subject: PESO - Saturday Morning at the Lake
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 10:22 AM
 Got down to the lake at the bottom of
 my street at about 8 this
 morning.  The light was pretty cool.  I hope
 these aren't too dark,
 but I like them this way:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-morning-at-lake.html
 
 Features my first cormorant shot - called Dawn Patrol.
 
 All shots with *istD/Sigma f3.5 50-200mm manual focus
 zoom/Manfrotto
 monopod gasp!.
 
 Hope you enjoy.
 
 Comments welcome.
 
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Re: PESO - Saturday Morning at the Lake

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Got down to the lake at the bottom of my street at about 8 this
morning.  The light was pretty cool.  I hope these aren't too dark,
but I like them this way:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-morning-at-lake.html

Features my first cormorant shot - called Dawn Patrol.

All shots with *istD/Sigma f3.5 50-200mm manual focus zoom/Manfrotto
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You're a freaking nature snapper now!

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Re: Introduction

2010-05-01 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
snip
 Don't believe anything I say.

 (It'll get said eventually)

Ya beat me to it!

;-)

Welcome to the list, Jeffery!

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Been missing from the list

2010-05-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Finally got a chance this morning to check on the List. A little over 1800 
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Utah - Escalante/Grand Staircase and Captitol Reef N.P. Encountered almost all 
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I'll miss the gallery in Chi town as I'll be driving back on that weekend.


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RE: PESO - Saturday Morning at the Lake

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 Got down to the lake at the bottom of my street at about 8 
 this morning.  The light was pretty cool.  I hope these 
 aren't too dark, but I like them this way:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-morning-at
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 Features my first cormorant shot - called Dawn Patrol.
 

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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister

Gave me a good chuckle there, Stan. Thanks!

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Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have developed  
an aversion to camo. What triggered it was the number of complaints  
about pedestrians being hit by cars on base. Hell - they are all  
wearing camo! And then they wander across the street expecting  
people to see them?


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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

2010-05-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Camilla Grill was open two years ago when I was down there with my
wife, who was attending a science teachers' convention.  While she was
at a session, I took the St Charles Street trolley out to Camilla for
breakfast,  The ride through the Garden District was a real joy.  Once
inside, the Camilla was just like a Jersey diner.  They don't even
serve beignets!

Dan

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
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 meat in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its 
 appearance. It had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour 
 for dishwashers down here), but I think it's up and running again.

 Jeffery


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 Thanks, Jeffery.

 Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans?  From the outside
 it looks like a miniature southern plantation house.  Inside, its pure
 Jersey diner.  It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear.

 Dan

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 There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton 
 Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the 
 diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a 
 shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through 
 your diner blog. I like it.

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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20


Finally got around to looking at these, Jostein, and wanted to add my  
praise to the din of PDML'rs.


Drunk or not, they all display good seeing and timely clicking.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Been missing from the list

2010-05-01 Thread Tom C
Wow, beautiful locations and sounds like wonderful photography weather
to boot, Ken.  I'm sure you'll share.

Tom C.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Apr 30, 2010, at 18:52 , paul stenquist wrote:


Mac's simply don't 'Just Work' in large network environments. In
reality they require far more support time and cost in large
deployments than PC's because Apple has nothing comparable to Active
Directory and Exchange.

No corporate IT department has enough budget or headcount to survive
creating work for itself, so Macs are right out for large
organizations.
--  
I've worked in ad agencies that had huge networks of Macs -- more  
than `1000 at BBDO Detroit. Problems were few and far between, non- 
existent for most users. But you have to have Mac IT people. You  
can't leave it to PC guys.

Paul


Thanks Paul. Those PC folk have no idea what can be done. As I recall,  
a few years ago someone at some university built a setup of about 300  
Mac Pros running as essentially parallel processors, and they clocked  
in faster than any other computer or computer array ever, including  
Crays. Of course, such things are only viable for 6 to 12 months when  
newer equipment is introduced that would best them. Such is the  
logarithmic world of the advances in the digital domain.


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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Was there a camera store (Moldaner's) about 100 feet away from Camellia Grill? 
That is the only photography shop left in New Orleans (the city of) since the 
storm. It has since moved closer to Tulane University, replacing Maple Street 
Camera (the second to last photography shop in the city). 

I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see what has become of it 
since the oil spill (which is now the size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs 
down there don't want any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two 
days ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago for trying to 
photograph herons near an oil refinery in Venice. Rough times for photographers 
since it is now so easy to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen 
as a threat.

Jeffery


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 The Camilla Grill was open two years ago when I was down there with my
 wife, who was attending a science teachers' convention.  While she was
 at a session, I took the St Charles Street trolley out to Camilla for
 breakfast,  The ride through the Garden District was a real joy.  Once
 inside, the Camilla was just like a Jersey diner.  They don't even
 serve beignets!
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw 
 meat in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its 
 appearance. It had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour 
 for dishwashers down here), but I think it's up and running again.
 
 Jeffery
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Thanks, Jeffery.
 
 Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans?  From the outside
 it looks like a miniature southern plantation house.  Inside, its pure
 Jersey diner.  It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear.
 
 Dan
 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton 
 Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the 
 diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a 
 shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through 
 your diner blog. I like it.
 
 Jeffery
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

2010-05-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I did not see a camera store there.  I just missed the trolley back,
so I wandered around a bit, and I' sure I would have noticed a camera
store.

Dan

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 Was there a camera store (Moldaner's) about 100 feet away from Camellia 
 Grill? That is the only photography shop left in New Orleans (the city of) 
 since the storm. It has since moved closer to Tulane University, replacing 
 Maple Street Camera (the second to last photography shop in the city).

 I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see what has become of 
 it since the oil spill (which is now the size of Puerto Rico), but the 
 sheriffs down there don't want any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor 
 tried two days ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago 
 for trying to photograph herons near an oil refinery in Venice. Rough times 
 for photographers since it is now so easy to post images on the web. Anyone 
 with a camera is seen as a threat.

 Jeffery


 On May 1, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 The Camilla Grill was open two years ago when I was down there with my
 wife, who was attending a science teachers' convention.  While she was
 at a session, I took the St Charles Street trolley out to Camilla for
 breakfast,  The ride through the Garden District was a real joy.  Once
 inside, the Camilla was just like a Jersey diner.  They don't even
 serve beignets!

 Dan

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw 
 meat in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its 
 appearance. It had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay 
 $15/hour for dishwashers down here), but I think it's up and running again.

 Jeffery


 On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Thanks, Jeffery.

 Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans?  From the outside
 it looks like a miniature southern plantation house.  Inside, its pure
 Jersey diner.  It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear.

 Dan

 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton 
 Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the 
 diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a 
 shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through 
 your diner blog. I like it.

 Jeffery
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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
  I've worked in ad agencies that had huge networks of Macs 
 -- more than 
  `1000 at BBDO Detroit. Problems were few and far between, non- 
  existent for most users. But you have to have Mac IT 
 people. You can't 
  leave it to PC guys.
  Paul
 
 Thanks Paul. Those PC folk have no idea what can be done. As 
 I recall, a few years ago someone at some university built a 
 setup of about 300 Mac Pros running as essentially parallel 
 processors, and they clocked in faster than any other 
 computer or computer array ever, including Crays. Of course, 
 such things are only viable for 6 to 12 months when newer 
 equipment is introduced that would best them. Such is the 
 logarithmic world of the advances in the digital domain.

1,000 nodes isn't a huge network. Even back in the mid-late 80s the retailer
I worked for had 2-3,000 PCs networked together. Nowadays we're talking in
the 10s of 1,000s. The company that is making me redundant runs almost 1,000
servers in its data centres worldwide - to say nothing of the 1,000s of
desktops and laptops they're serving.



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RE: Please comment on my Diner Blog

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
 I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see 
 what has become of it since the oil spill (which is now the 
 size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs down there don't want 
 any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two days 
 ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago 
 for trying to photograph herons near an oil refinery in 
 Venice. Rough times for photographers since it is now so easy 
 to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen as a threat.

What are they worried about? Aren't these public places, and don't people
have a right to know about the destruction the oil leak is causing?

Bob


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Re: Been missing from the list

2010-05-01 Thread Doug Brewer

Kenneth Waller wrote:

Finally got a chance this morning to check on the List. A little over 1800 messages 
since a week ago last Tuesday. I'm in the middle of a 10 day shoot in Utah - 
Escalante/Grand Staircase and Captitol Reef N.P. Encountered almost all the seasons 
- we've had sun, clouds, rain, hail, sleet  snow with gust of wind at times 50 
t0 60 mph, temps from 26 to 70F.

I'll miss the gallery in Chi town as I'll be driving back on that weekend.


Play nice guys/gals !

Ken Waller


I'm so envious. That's such a great area. Are you getting as far as 
Kodachrome?


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Apr 30, 2010, at 19:20 , Adam Maas wrote:


My experience is otherwise. Mac's are good machines, but not
best-in-class for reliability, middle of the pack is more like it.
Apple's reliability rep died with the PowerMac 4400. They only have a
reliability advantage over cheap white box or really low-end hardware.
Faster? yeah, PC's are pretty much always at a given spend level with
the sole exception of the Mac Pro which is competitive against the
other workstation-class machines in its price category. Apple is
completely lacking in anything resembling competitive performance per
dollar on the desktop for less than the base-model Mac Pro, they do
better on the Laptop side, but you still pay a premium for their
machines which is not reflected in the performance.

When I bought my latest laptop, I got a machine from HP almost
identical in spec the mid-range 15 MacBook Pro aside from clockspeed
(the clockspeed was noticably lower, 2.13GHz vs 2.53 which was
current, but I saved $1000 and got otherwise high-end specs), but it
came in at less than the base model MacBook in cost, and I got
features which the Macs lack (like a dedicated docking station) This
is pretty typical of the midrange market for Laptops.


I disagree with you on the reliability question.

I've never, ever, had a Mac (after they got away from the original  
design, which suffered from heat) that failed electronically or  
physically, other than hard drives, none of which were Apple supplied  
drives. Never memory failure, cpu failure, motherboard failure, CD or  
DVD ROM, monitors, keyboards, cables, speakers, etc. Never. Much of  
that gear I still have, and it still works just fine, including two  
PowerBook Duos, which were originally a 210 and 230 models, that I  
upgraded to 2300c with a color LCD screen on one, and left the 210  
upgrade with it's original BW LCD screen. Both has Duo Docks which  
contained color monitors, hard drives, modems, and external connectors  
for all available peripherals. I last used the 2300c as a cash  
register and database for a yard sale in 2007, at which time it was 15  
years old. I can still purchase new battery packs for it, though I  
won't for obvious reasons.


When working as a consultant, or in an IT division, or personally, the  
only problems I've encountered were software or networking errors  
caused by either the users, or the wrong choice of peripheral  
equipment. In the early days, 1984 to 1987, I had my share of sad Macs  
pop up on me, but they could always be traced to such things as an  
over-clocked CPU coming loose in an aftermarket crimp socket, a memory  
chip's legs oxidizing in their socket and needing cleaning, or the  
connection coming loose for my BackPack 20 meg hard drive that  
hooked on to the back of my Mac Plus and drew power from the Mac's  
power supply.


By the way, just so you know what an idiot I am, this fanaticism about  
computers beginning in 1973 with Atari, Sinclair, Epson, then Apple  
and Mac, with parallel interests in Porsches, a powerful audio video  
wall in the family room, and racing, cost me the dream marriage to my  
second wife. Take heed, you younger set. Never ever become so involved  
in your hobbies that you forget what is really important in life.


It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long..
— Anon

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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
South of New Orleans, human rights tend to be optional. The refineries don't 
want any negative publicity, and since the sheriff is an elected position, they 
do whatever the refineries ask.

Jeffery

On May 1, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bob W wrote:

 I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see 
 what has become of it since the oil spill (which is now the 
 size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs down there don't want 
 any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two days 
 ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago 
 for trying to photograph herons near an oil refinery in 
 Venice. Rough times for photographers since it is now so easy 
 to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen as a threat.
 
 What are they worried about? Aren't these public places, and don't people
 have a right to know about the destruction the oil leak is causing?
 
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Re: Been missing from the list

2010-05-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Kenneth Waller wrote:

 Finally got a chance this morning to check on the List. A little over 1800
 messages since a week ago last Tuesday. I'm in the middle of a 10 day shoot
 in Utah - Escalante/Grand Staircase and Captitol Reef N.P. Encountered
 almost all the seasons - we've had sun, clouds, rain, hail, sleet  snow
 with gust of wind at times 50 t0 60 mph, temps from 26 to 70F.

 I'll miss the gallery in Chi town as I'll be driving back on that weekend.


 Play nice guys/gals !

 Ken Waller

 I'm so envious. That's such a great area. Are you getting as far as
 Kodachrome?

Sounds like a reala good trip.

Dave

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